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| 00:12.10 | tordy | hello |
| 00:15.17 | Zolden | Fate, coming |
| 00:15.27 | Fate | take ur time |
| 00:15.48 | Fate | i still think the neutrals slow down the game to much |
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| 00:16.47 | Zolden | well, i tested alot before, and decided to have em |
| 00:16.52 | Fate | placing 3 t1 soldiers on each flag would be enugh i think |
| 00:17.08 | Zolden | maybe |
| 00:17.30 | Zolden | but i tried it earlier and found out that it's too sweet |
| 00:17.31 | Fate | i was very supriesed by that pyro ho killed some of my units instandly |
| 00:17.44 | Zolden | he's badass motherfucker |
| 00:17.52 | Fate | i was like oh thats just a firebad |
| 00:18.03 | Fate | XD |
| 00:18.28 | Fate | open |
| 00:19.06 | Zolden | :) |
| 00:19.12 | Zolden | i'm in mapster channel on us |
| 00:19.13 | Zolden | inv me |
| 00:19.18 | Taintedwisp | There lash just got a new button too |
| 00:19.19 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 00:20.15 | Zolden | who else wnan play starhammer 40 k? |
| 00:22.43 | Ahli | me |
| 00:22.45 | Ahli | hang on |
| 00:22.56 | Fate | on US Ahli |
| 00:23.00 | Ahli | k |
| 00:23.01 | Fate | its open |
| 00:23.16 | Ahli | I will crush :D |
| 00:23.29 | Ahli | unless you rush to that OP tank |
| 00:23.29 | Zolden | omg |
| 00:24.07 | Triceron | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/Triceron/Tau_Invasion.jpg Tau in SC2 :O |
| 00:24.21 | Fate | no tank rush ^^ |
| 00:24.31 | Zolden | lol |
| 00:24.34 | Fate | uhh |
| 00:24.34 | Zolden | with penises? |
| 00:24.55 | Fate | where u u see penises? |
| 00:25.03 | Fate | XD |
| 00:25.19 | Fate | Teamcolurs? |
| 00:25.33 | Fate | Triceron? |
| 00:25.38 | tordy | is ther a way to make sounds local to a player? |
| 00:25.54 | Triceron | ? |
| 00:25.55 | Zolden | thei left arm is a penis |
| 00:26.08 | tordy | only 1 player can hear a sound generated by a unit |
| 00:26.09 | Fate | is ti with teamcoulors? |
| 00:26.12 | tordy | for example |
| 00:26.16 | Triceron | bukakke cannon |
| 00:26.32 | Triceron | these ones aren't, but tc can be added easily |
| 00:27.03 | Fate | if u do they could be uesfull for me |
| 00:28.54 | Triceron | they're not animated tho |
| 00:29.21 | Triceron | the animations were made for Dawn of War, they're all cut up into separate files |
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| 00:41.42 | Kubi | DOWN THE THE GINGERS |
| 00:42.35 | Taintedwisp | New sounds for Fenix Added :P |
| 00:42.42 | Taintedwisp | I removed the Wc2 Deathknight haha |
| 00:42.49 | Taintedwisp | I put in his original sounds |
| 00:51.57 | JademusSreg | Nice Tau, Tri. |
| 00:54.24 | JademusSreg | How about some Geth? |
| 00:55.01 | Fate | thy for playing to all |
| 00:55.17 | Zolden | ty for not adding select all troops ;/ |
| 00:55.40 | Fate | ah coome on^^ |
| 00:55.54 | Fate | i am not making it since its coming with hots anyway |
| 00:56.38 | Ahli | just rally all buildings to the front and a-move into the enemy base |
| 00:58.44 | Taintedwisp | YAY |
| 00:58.45 | Taintedwisp | FINNALY |
| 00:58.48 | Taintedwisp | ALL HEROES ARE COMPLETED |
| 00:59.36 | Taintedwisp | Next comes defensive structures, then Mercenaries then gtg |
| 01:00.10 | Fate | waht map and what it gtg? |
| 01:00.17 | Taintedwisp | Good to go |
| 01:00.19 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 01:00.28 | Taintedwisp | means I can throw it in beta after Defense structures and mercs |
| 01:00.41 | Taintedwisp | well and a bit of balancing |
| 01:01.26 | Taintedwisp | But the heroes are done!!!!!!! |
| 01:01.35 | Taintedwisp | just need visuals, testing and balancing |
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| 01:39.30 | JademusSreg | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/Images/Beaker%20ME3.jpg |
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| 01:53.56 | nooblark | lf random terrain generator w/ doodads! |
| 01:54.20 | JademusSreg | Units. |
| 01:54.31 | JademusSreg | Actors alone lack footprints. |
| 01:54.46 | Zolden | this is gay, isnt' it? |
| 01:54.52 | JademusSreg | <3 |
| 01:55.26 | Zolden | time to ragequit |
| 01:56.45 | Bommes | hmm, somehow I broke a map and can't save it anymore without crashing the editor |
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| 02:59.15 | Taintedwisp | DAMN I AM ON A ROLE TODAY!!! |
| 03:02.29 | Vailreth | hm? |
| 03:05.24 | Vailreth | get something worked out Tainted? |
| 03:10.27 | Daara | woah |
| 03:10.31 | Daara | hows it going vailreth? |
| 03:10.33 | Daara | been awhile there |
| 03:10.44 | Vailreth | yeah its been a while |
| 03:11.54 | Daara | whatcha think about this? |
| 03:11.55 | Daara | http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/031/9/c/alliance_city_by_smotis-d5tf70l.jpg |
| 03:12.09 | Vailreth | nice |
| 03:12.48 | Daara | i've got model swaps and texture swaps down too so i can do 100's of variations with character models :D |
| 03:15.26 | Vailreth | i see |
| 03:15.40 | Vailreth | http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/vailreth/TurretandWidowmine_zps18f74a58.jpg |
| 03:15.54 | Daara | haha |
| 03:15.56 | Daara | awesome |
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| 03:22.38 | nooblark | daara |
| 03:22.44 | nooblark | make me some custom models |
| 03:22.48 | nooblark | with custom animations |
| 03:22.55 | Daara | i suck at animating |
| 03:22.58 | nooblark | lol |
| 03:23.10 | nooblark | me and taz came up with this sweet ass map earlier |
| 03:23.16 | nooblark | dunno if we're going to make it |
| 03:23.21 | nooblark | but it will be #1 game on bent. |
| 03:23.35 | Dustin|Home | what is it |
| 03:23.38 | Daara | #1 after mine that is |
| 03:23.39 | nooblark | it has so much potential for infinite fun/replay value/laughs |
| 03:23.52 | nooblark | we were fucking around talking about dumb maps |
| 03:23.53 | nooblark | like |
| 03:23.59 | nooblark | a mouse that gathers cheese |
| 03:24.07 | nooblark | and it eventually evolved into |
| 03:24.11 | nooblark | animals versus humans |
| 03:24.28 | nooblark | you have to hunt all the animals before thay stampede you |
| 03:24.46 | nooblark | so players play as animals (different 'type' for each player) and humans |
| 03:24.53 | nooblark | you have to mate as animals |
| 03:25.05 | nooblark | and grow bigger by eating their food |
| 03:25.20 | nooblark | humans have to eat food to stay alive, and build a civilization until they are able to hunt the animals |
| 03:25.31 | nooblark | so go out into the forest to gather wood, or stone.. |
| 03:25.39 | nooblark | but they can't be armed and mine |
| 03:25.55 | nooblark | so if animals (even early game) catch you out there, you might die early |
| 03:26.08 | nooblark | this all started off modeling lol |
| 03:26.21 | nooblark | making a lyote on zergling model looks convincing |
| 03:26.30 | nooblark | and a roach attack on a scantipede |
| 03:26.59 | nooblark | steal it and i kill you |
| 03:30.29 | nooblark | omg my ideas are expanding so fast |
| 03:30.34 | nooblark | this is going to be epic if we make it. |
| 03:30.49 | nooblark | the biggest setback is a random terrain generator |
| 03:30.56 | nooblark | that's going to add the most replay value. |
| 03:31.00 | Daara | they can be done |
| 03:31.03 | nooblark | i know |
| 03:31.07 | nooblark | but they are complex |
| 03:31.15 | nooblark | i found one on sc2mapster |
| 03:31.28 | nooblark | i don't like using other people's things though :P |
| 03:31.48 | nooblark | i couldn't find a trigger to alter terrain |
| 03:32.10 | nooblark | after some google searches i found terrain is in data, and used as actors |
| 03:33.08 | nooblark | needs to have certain spots that aren't all fucked up, otherwise humans will find it difficult to build |
| 03:33.25 | nooblark | but then again, i can add them to have abilities to flatten land... |
| 03:33.27 | nooblark | mmmm |
| 03:33.28 | nooblark | nice. |
| 03:34.21 | nooblark | i want to make it more primitive based. bows/arrows with axes/knives |
| 03:34.24 | nooblark | rather than guns. |
| 03:34.46 | nooblark | i accept models for it, all credit will be given where do. :P |
| 03:35.12 | nooblark | especially for houses/tents. log cabins/animal skin tents would be awesome. |
| 03:37.07 | Daara | i'll see what i can hook you up with |
| 03:37.26 | nooblark | let me verify with taz |
| 03:37.31 | nooblark | that we're going to do it |
| 03:37.45 | nooblark | i don't want to waste your time otherwise |
| 03:37.54 | nooblark | and editing the models is easiest part. |
| 03:38.06 | nooblark | need to work out the layout/balance/mechanics |
| 03:38.38 | nooblark | if you're interested in it, try and get some primitive looking weapons. basic wood cutting axes made from stone/metal with a wood handle |
| 03:38.45 | nooblark | no special colors or anything on it |
| 03:48.58 | Taintedwisp | Hah yeah Vailreth, I almost got the entire Base Defense system completed too!!! |
| 03:49.07 | Vailreth | nice |
| 03:49.08 | Taintedwisp | Just gotta make 2 more towers, then Moph abilities. |
| 03:49.15 | Vailreth | cool |
| 03:52.12 | Taintedwisp | Base system tonight Mercs tomorrow, Balacning and testing for the next week plus a few events, and then Beta time |
| 03:52.48 | Vailreth | nice |
| 03:54.27 | Dogmai | ~blizz-deletarius |
| 03:54.27 | purl | hmm... blizz-deletarius is many things, but they all fall under a NDA |
| 03:54.29 | Taintedwisp | Visuals I something I can easily add over time :P |
| 03:54.36 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 03:54.39 | Dogmai | ~seen blizz-deletarius |
| 03:54.41 | purl | blizz-deletarius <d8940048@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.148.0.72> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 2d 4h 37m 13s ago, saying: 'brb'. |
| 03:55.11 | Taintedwisp | Yo dogmai how do you like the new lash? i removed that spider web.http://s183.beta.photobucket.com/user/11shadowwolf/media/Terrain016_zpsbe49c0f5.jpg.html |
| 03:56.00 | Dogmai | thats cool |
| 03:56.02 | Dogmai | i like that |
| 03:57.27 | Taintedwisp | I figured you would :P i remember how you said you liked tribal tatooes |
| 03:57.28 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 04:00.27 | Vailreth | ive been watching a lest play of deadspace 1 with jesse coxx |
| 04:03.52 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 04:06.23 | JademusSreg | Pew pew. |
| 04:07.18 | Vailreth | hey Jademus |
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| 04:21.41 | JademusSreg | Hi thar Vail. |
| 04:21.51 | JademusSreg | How go your projects? |
| 04:22.29 | Vailreth | not so good i think i will have to redo one when hots comes out |
| 04:22.30 | ckSynergy | well well the famous Jadumus lol. |
| 04:32.04 | JademusSreg | Orly?> |
| 04:32.09 | nooblark | why |
| 04:32.09 | nooblark | do |
| 04:32.10 | nooblark | i |
| 04:32.18 | nooblark | KEEP GETTING TEAMED WITH BAD FUCKING SCRUB ASS NEWBS |
| 04:32.25 | nooblark | losing to gold players because i cant 3v1 |
| 04:32.27 | JademusSreg | Why so, Vail? |
| 04:32.32 | JademusSreg | Hi thar, ck. |
| 04:35.17 | nooblark | omfg |
| 04:35.19 | nooblark | SAME FUCKIGN MAP |
| 04:35.21 | nooblark | OVER AND OVER |
| 04:35.28 | nooblark | veto is so broken. |
| 04:35.41 | Vailreth | im not sure how the dependencies will stack together |
| 04:38.07 | ckSynergy | sup |
| 04:45.50 | Dustin|Home | hi |
| 04:45.52 | Dogmai | all I want to do |
| 04:45.55 | Dogmai | is upload my fucken project |
| 04:46.08 | Dogmai | its so depressing |
| 04:52.42 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 04:52.59 | Taintedwisp | Dogmai you know what, EvoFrenzy just might make it up before Tofu :P |
| 04:53.08 | Dogmai | gfys |
| 04:53.26 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 04:53.26 | Daara | that's not very nice :c |
| 04:54.20 | Dogmai | hes be trolling m |
| 04:54.22 | Dogmai | me |
| 04:54.26 | Dogmai | T_T |
| 04:56.00 | Dustin|Home | :O |
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| 05:01.49 | Taintedwisp_ | Actually dogmai theres a chance that it REALLY might :P |
| 05:02.05 | Taintedwisp_ | I just finished the last hero( need to do some visuals) and just finished the Base Defenses haha |
| 05:02.20 | JademusSreg | Oh yes, Dogmai, how's Tofu? I haven't heard any news about it in quite a long time. |
| 05:02.22 | Taintedwisp_ | 8 bosses/events done. |
| 05:02.49 | Taintedwisp_ | Just gotta do Mercenaries tomorrow then If I want to I can go ahead and throw it in beta |
| 05:02.50 | Taintedwisp_ | haha |
| 05:03.04 | Taintedwisp_ | but i wanna do some bug fixes first |
| 05:03.05 | Taintedwisp_ | :P |
| 05:03.56 | nooblark | KLDWJKPEOP |
| 05:04.01 | nooblark | why do i have work in 6 hours |
| 05:04.03 | nooblark | FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK |
| 05:04.31 | Taintedwisp_ | :( |
| 05:04.38 | nooblark | exactly tainted. |
| 05:04.50 | nooblark | work work for like next 2 months. |
| 05:05.00 | nooblark | stupid hours |
| 05:05.04 | nooblark | like 7am. |
| 05:05.11 | nooblark | k bed, cya |
| 05:05.13 | nooblark | gl with beta |
| 05:19.48 | Vailreth | ok im off |
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| 05:32.19 | ckSynergy | sup tainted |
| 05:42.28 | Taintedwisp_ | Sup Ck |
| 05:42.33 | Taintedwisp_ | I finished my heroes :D |
| 05:42.40 | Taintedwisp_ | retexured the hydra too |
| 05:43.01 | Taintedwisp_ | cysynergy see :P http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Terrain016_zpsbe49c0f5.jpg |
| 05:44.44 | Taintedwisp_ | but yeah every hero now has 3 normal abiltieis with 1 ultimate, all levelable, and all have level requirements similar to doats |
| 05:44.46 | Taintedwisp_ | dotas |
| 05:51.22 | JademusSreg | Cute team color things on the hydralisks. |
| 05:51.53 | JademusSreg | However, it's strange you can see the space and asteroids and shit through the floor window. |
| 05:52.28 | JademusSreg | As though the surface were infinitely thin. |
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| 06:02.02 | Taintedwisp_ | lol |
| 06:02.26 | Taintedwisp_ | JademusSreg, Actually I have a skybox paralax back there of the char planet :P |
| 06:02.30 | Taintedwisp_ | it just doesnt show in the editor |
| 06:03.36 | Taintedwisp_ | There are quite a few places on my map where you can see right through the terrain like that :P |
| 06:03.52 | Taintedwisp_ | Its a Space Platform Arena :P |
| 06:05.43 | Taintedwisp_ | YO JademusSreg here lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKoErGCHLxc |
| 06:05.50 | Taintedwisp_ | you can see it in that one |
| 06:05.58 | Taintedwisp_ | And http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC16lIUzHJE |
| 06:09.15 | ckSynergy | interesting hydras |
| 06:09.21 | Taintedwisp_ | AND http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBb1moAzKQI |
| 06:09.23 | Taintedwisp_ | :P |
| 06:09.33 | Taintedwisp_ | another useless video that tells NOTHING about the actual map\ |
| 06:09.54 | ckSynergy | you really lik that zealot dont you? lol |
| 06:10.02 | Taintedwisp_ | yup |
| 06:10.03 | Taintedwisp_ | lwal |
| 06:10.09 | Taintedwisp_ | Hes my personal favorite. |
| 06:10.11 | Taintedwisp_ | his looks anyways |
| 06:10.12 | Taintedwisp_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skyMqXs1D5A |
| 06:10.38 | ckSynergy | hmm |
| 06:10.42 | ckSynergy | you have a free minute? |
| 06:11.04 | Taintedwisp_ | Depends |
| 06:11.08 | Taintedwisp_ | I have no mouse atm. |
| 06:11.14 | Taintedwisp_ | cept laptop mouse |
| 06:12.05 | ckSynergy | May I pm you? |
| 06:21.36 | JademusSreg | Taint, I mean there needs to be a sense of depth and thickness to the terrain. |
| 06:23.55 | Taintedwisp_ | I think it looks good :P |
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| 09:19.48 | TwoDie | G0A any plans for the map? If not will continue working on it... |
| 09:26.32 | G0A | you can continue:D |
| 09:29.39 | TwoDie | YEAH! |
| 09:32.25 | G0A | wth |
| 09:32.36 | G0A | new C&C will be free??????? http://www.commandandconquer.com/free/ |
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| 09:44.40 | TwoDie | WTF, hacks!!!! |
| 09:45.12 | TwoDie | so what they gonna to do to make this game to pay off? Pay 2 Win? |
| 09:45.32 | G0A | probably.D |
| 09:46.38 | TwoDie | SUCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS |
| 09:46.53 | TwoDie | Yeah maybe will do like Age of Empires Online |
| 09:47.13 | TwoDie | wont buy stuff, wont get full experience of the game |
| 09:47.39 | JademusSreg | If C&C were ever actually good, that would be awesome news. |
| 09:48.10 | TwoDie | it is still at some point... just at some |
| 09:53.38 | TwoDie | Fuck i hate those passwords shitt... |
| 09:57.04 | Taintedwisp | EAT A DICK TWODIE!!!\ |
| 09:57.05 | Taintedwisp | "{ |
| 09:57.08 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 09:57.12 | Taintedwisp | hate hate hate |
| 09:57.31 | TwoDie | Taintedwisp SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH..... |
| 09:57.39 | Taintedwisp | what are they making pay 2 win? |
| 09:58.38 | TwoDie | CnC probably |
| 09:58.44 | TwoDie | http://www.commandandconquer.com/free/ |
| 09:59.04 | Taintedwisp | meh, C& C has been shitty for a decade... |
| 09:59.25 | Taintedwisp | The last one worth any note(also the best one) was Generals |
| 09:59.35 | Taintedwisp | And it has shitty online connection :P |
| 09:59.44 | Taintedwisp | Good online, but VERY unreliable |
| 10:00.00 | Taintedwisp | 25% of games in pure disconnects :P |
| 10:00.19 | JademusSreg | To be fair, C&C has had plenty of cool ideas; it's the implementation that invariably is terrible. |
| 10:00.47 | Taintedwisp | lol yeah |
| 10:00.53 | Taintedwisp | Tiberium being the worst though... |
| 10:01.03 | TwoDie | taintedwisp you can play it in gameranger with other shitty connectivity people |
| 10:01.33 | Taintedwisp | I will admit C &C 3 on xbox was cool, because when you were using the controller you dont notice the problems, but then on that computer... it was just shit |
| 10:01.36 | JademusSreg | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/Images/Tiberium%20Red%20Zone%20001.jpg |
| 10:01.43 | TwoDie | Tiberium Wars is quite fun. Just massing everything and trying to win that way |
| 10:02.13 | Taintedwisp | http://s183.beta.photobucket.com/user/11shadowwolf/media/Terrain016_zpsbe49c0f5.jpg.html such a better picture |
| 10:02.20 | TwoDie | what is taht? JademusSreg |
| 10:02.36 | JademusSreg | I -love- Tiberium. Still have disdain for the gameplay, but the white paper outlining the physical properties of Tiberium is delicious. |
| 10:02.58 | Taintedwisp | JademusSreg I must ask you a very serious question... |
| 10:03.02 | TwoDie | any playable version of such thing online? |
| 10:03.06 | TwoDie | insc2? |
| 10:03.07 | Taintedwisp | Does your mothership play PacMan? http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Terrain104_zpsa11c6754.jpg |
| 10:03.08 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 10:03.25 | JademusSreg | Hell yes. |
| 10:03.38 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 10:03.52 | Taintedwisp | Is it bad I actually made a texture that doesnt show up well for it? |
| 10:03.53 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 10:04.02 | Taintedwisp | I couldnt make it look any better, I wish I could have |
| 10:04.46 | JademusSreg | The was from my tiberium demo. Entirely data driven, harvestable, self-generating, self-replicating, and hazardous. Even applies those crack splats and light sources. =D |
| 10:05.01 | JademusSreg | -And- the growth states transition visually. |
| 10:11.36 | TwoDie | JademusSreg so there is on bnet anyplayble version of it or just experimentation of yours for tiberium? |
| 10:14.20 | JademusSreg | The latter. I still have the demo, for those interested. |
| 10:18.28 | JademusSreg | I fear it may not have aged well; there may be errors in need of correction. |
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| 10:42.21 | JademusSreg | Pew pew. |
| 10:42.25 | HP-X|Arthas | pew pew |
| 10:42.29 | HP-X|Arthas | You ded |
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| 10:42.34 | HP-X|Arthas | >:3 |
| 10:42.41 | G0A | great |
| 10:42.41 | JademusSreg | Yep. |
| 10:42.48 | G0A | New Opera has crash loop:D |
| 10:42.51 | JademusSreg | I recovered. |
| 10:42.55 | HP-X|Arthas | Crap |
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| 10:43.10 | HP-X|Arthas | rolls 13 and dodges |
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| 10:43.46 | HP-X|Arthas | Anyone here with a job offer where I can sit at home and work? ;D |
| 10:43.50 | HP-X|Arthas | That pays my rent |
| 10:44.49 | G0A | than he/she should make the offer to me:D |
| 10:45.15 | HP-X|Arthas | :) |
| 10:45.28 | HP-X|Arthas | Not sure if I did the right thing when I quit my old job |
| 10:45.42 | HP-X|Arthas | 4+ hours / day commuting |
| 10:45.51 | HP-X|Arthas | moved 5 times during 9 months |
| 10:45.57 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 10:46.12 | HP-X|Arthas | Well paid job, but I was about to hit a wall |
| 10:46.34 | JademusSreg | Some IT positions allow telecommute, if that is the correct term. |
| 10:46.38 | HP-X|Arthas | And Im not too keen about starting to make mistakes at work due to stress / enter the down spiral |
| 10:46.43 | G0A | you quited without having solid job offer at other place? |
| 10:46.50 | HP-X|Arthas | G0A: Yeah |
| 10:47.15 | G0A | :( |
| 10:47.18 | HP-X|Arthas | Since I could not guarantee I had a place to live, I could not guarantee I could uphold my part of the contract to my employer |
| 10:47.23 | Daara | ugh |
| 10:47.35 | HP-X|Arthas | All I did was work and ride bus / subway |
| 10:47.37 | Daara | why when i export some models the texture offsets get fucked up |
| 10:47.38 | HP-X|Arthas | and sleep! |
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| 10:47.53 | HP-X|Arthas | Moved back to home town, not many it jobs around here |
| 10:48.01 | HP-X|Arthas | unemployed for almost a year |
| 10:48.30 | HP-X|Arthas | Life's a bitch and I aint got no money :p |
| 10:48.37 | JademusSreg | When I was homeless several years ago, I still had internet access. I scavanged resources from the local mall and enjoyed wifi while modding/programming day or night, the latter psent in my favorite Perkins. |
| 10:49.51 | HP-X|Arthas | im not homeless though :) |
| 10:50.05 | HP-X|Arthas | but living with parents at 26 sucks |
| 10:50.44 | JademusSreg | So long as you have a vehicle, a laptop, and maintain good hygiene, you can succeed even while homeless, I can assure you./ |
| 10:51.13 | HP-X|Arthas | I even maintain my hair :) |
| 10:51.16 | Zolden | homes for pussies |
| 10:51.25 | HP-X|Arthas | Dont have my own vehicle though |
| 10:51.33 | HP-X|Arthas | nothing that cant be fixed though |
| 10:51.56 | HP-X|Arthas | Im actually going to call regardin a job when I get home from my vacation |
| 10:52.19 | HP-X|Arthas | But something tells me the positions Im going to call regards is already filled |
| 10:52.25 | HP-X|Arthas | no one here that works at facebook? |
| 10:52.30 | Zolden | you have a vehicle - your body, a biological robot, that carries you wherever you want |
| 10:52.43 | Daara | http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h205/Daara/StormwindMageTower_zpsc87451c4.jpg |
| 10:52.51 | HP-X|Arthas | Ya, but a 45 minute drive above speed limits takes ages if im using my body |
| 10:52.55 | Daara | spent like 4 hours on this an Sc2 doesn't apply some textures correctly :c |
| 10:53.17 | Zolden | Daara: you know what I think about it :) |
| 10:53.28 | Daara | nope! |
| 10:53.58 | Zolden | you know |
| 10:56.05 | Daara | suppose to look like this |
| 10:56.06 | Daara | http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h205/Daara/StormwineMageTower3DS_zps610ebec2.jpg |
| 10:57.12 | Daara | same shit happened to another model |
| 10:57.30 | Daara | i had to set the texture offsets to something retarded in order to get it to show properly in sc2 |
| 10:57.58 | Zolden | yea, look fucked |
| 10:58.45 | Daara | if i only i could export some of these models without WMV crashing |
| 10:58.48 | Daara | i could do it the easy way |
| 10:59.08 | Daara | but i have to do it the long way because you can't export them |
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| 11:40.58 | G0A | "Zoldenhomes for pussies" so it is cool to be homeless in freezing Russia? |
| 11:47.17 | TwoDie | cool up to hour being there |
| 11:47.29 | TwoDie | later it will be just cooler and cooler |
| 11:47.46 | TwoDie | until you will be just too cool for it |
| 11:53.16 | Bommes | Are you also adding some animations to the buildings? |
| 11:53.34 | TwoDie | Bommes he is not here |
| 11:53.45 | Zolden | G0A: It was one of my absurdistic statements everyone had to already get used to |
| 11:53.53 | Bommes | oh you are right |
| 11:53.58 | Bommes | my bad |
| 11:54.21 | Zolden | I think Daara only does textures |
| 11:54.27 | Zolden | animations for pussies |
| 11:55.41 | Zolden | TwoDie: had a nice mothjerfucking 1v1 yesturday in aok, the guy was realy good, almost rushed me with archers, and how do you think I won? |
| 11:55.58 | TwoDie | Yeah when he works on models with Chicks so it adds some pussy animations |
| 11:56.13 | TwoDie | Zolden hacks? :O |
| 11:56.17 | G0A | Zolden I like your absurd statements, thats why I asked, I wanted to hear more absurds.) |
| 11:56.19 | TwoDie | yeah thats not cool |
| 11:56.28 | Zolden | yeah, the spam tower cheat |
| 11:56.51 | Zolden | and I'd lose if I wouldn't kill his 3 workers who were building towers in front of my base |
| 11:57.23 | Zolden | G0A: absurd for pussies |
| 11:58.37 | Zolden | TwoDie: aok is going up in upncoming and soon it will be shown again, and I hope u'll have at that moent u'll have what? |
| 11:58.39 | TwoDie | Zolden seems like game is balanced |
| 11:59.39 | Zolden | tthe only balanced thing here is your ass, because it's too huge to not be balanced |
| 11:59.49 | TwoDie | Maybe need to buff siege equipment to one shot buildings |
| 11:59.52 | TwoDie | yeah iguess |
| 11:59.59 | Zolden | lol |
| 11:59.59 | TwoDie | will add more additional damage |
| 11:59.59 | G0A | NSS slowly gaining popularity on NA server.) |
| 12:00.06 | TwoDie | like 300 vs buildings |
| 12:00.17 | Zolden | the only buff for siege could be - to add +1 range to catapult |
| 12:00.37 | Zolden | G0A: Saw it realy high in upncoming |
| 12:00.37 | TwoDie | or reduce all ranged units range |
| 12:00.56 | TwoDie | to MELEE |
| 12:01.14 | Zolden | TwoDie: just add a flying magician with 100000000000000000000000 damage vs other magicians and 0.00000000000000001 damage vs other units |
| 12:01.15 | G0A | TwoDie can you send the latest version of our zombie map? I will work the population and win condition out. (you can work on the map meanwhile, I can easily combine the 2 map...) |
| 12:02.12 | TwoDie | G0A yeah you can use the lastest i have sent to you |
| 12:02.16 | G0A | k |
| 12:02.19 | TwoDie | still reworking terrain |
| 12:02.25 | TwoDie | from scratch again |
| 12:03.21 | G0A | lol.) |
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| 12:04.59 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 12:05.18 | JademusSreg | Seems my work took longer than I anticipated. |
| 12:06.15 | JademusSreg | Any new maps worth my attention? |
| 12:07.03 | G0A | what maps you like anyway? |
| 12:07.05 | TwoDie | Age of Knights on US or EU play with Zolden and WATCH how TOWERS EAT YOUR FACE |
| 12:07.38 | JademusSreg | Assume I loathe everything, except excellence. |
| 12:08.35 | G0A | try out my Final Frontier map and get mad on its complexity |
| 12:09.05 | JademusSreg | Complication != complexity, so which do you mean? |
| 12:09.25 | G0A | complexity |
| 12:10.04 | JademusSreg | Complication is a convoluted implementation where a simpler one would suffice (example: Diablo 3's scroll-less identification). |
| 12:10.22 | JademusSreg | Complexity emerges naturally from the interaction of units and systems. |
| 12:11.31 | JademusSreg | Chess exhibits complexity; simple rules, complex strategies. |
| 12:11.36 | G0A | simplicity dont suffice me.) |
| 12:12.33 | Zolden | JademusSreg: go to NA, play my Rise of Legends alone, it has a singleplayer campaign |
| 12:12.46 | G0A | really? |
| 12:12.58 | JademusSreg | Simplicity is relative to one's capacity to apprehend complexity. =D |
| 12:12.59 | G0A | what kind of campaign did you make? |
| 12:13.13 | Zolden | tutorialistic + survivalistic |
| 12:13.14 | JademusSreg | One should instead strive not for simplicity but an elegance of design. |
| 12:13.17 | JademusSreg | And implementation. |
| 12:13.27 | Zolden | survivialistic |
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| 12:13.36 | JademusSreg | I'll check it out. |
| 12:13.45 | JademusSreg | Both of them, if I remember. |
| 12:13.55 | Zolden | JademusSreg: do you read books from time to time? |
| 12:14.07 | G0A | JademusSreg best if you search map in the newest. Lots of good maps were published by EU mapers since global play. |
| 12:14.13 | JademusSreg | When I feel the inclination, Zol, haha. |
| 12:15.12 | Zolden | JademusSreg: this feels, because you're one of the few in this chat who use words whose translation I have to check in a dictionary |
| 12:15.35 | TwoDie | Again empty map |
| 12:16.30 | TwoDie | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUpsNiefBE0 |
| 12:16.51 | Zolden | bhuddists always playing empty map, it's the most fun type of maps for them |
| 12:17.02 | Zolden | buddhists |
| 12:18.11 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 12:18.49 | TwoDie | Zolden that one of the best options i would asy |
| 12:20.28 | Bibendus | mmm |
| 12:20.35 | Bibendus | i haz to hide a unit only to a player |
| 12:20.38 | Bibendus | how the hell do I do that :D |
| 12:21.31 | G0A | hmm |
| 12:21.34 | Zolden | ask Ahli, he knows how to hide actors for choosen players |
| 12:21.41 | G0A | you know you can hide units in actor filter? |
| 12:21.52 | G0A | but only by alliance... |
| 12:21.52 | Zolden | i remember he called a secret chinese phase technology |
| 12:22.46 | Zolden | it's not actually secret, but very chinese |
| 12:22.52 | Zolden | super chinese |
| 12:23.47 | Bibendus | lol |
| 12:23.56 | Bibendus | cuz for am ultiplayer fps |
| 12:23.58 | Bibendus | multiplayer |
| 12:24.17 | Bibendus | u have to hide the current unit only for the player |
| 12:24.25 | Bibendus | http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/357/screenshot2013020213244.jpg |
| 12:24.31 | Bibendus | for now hi added the nodraw flag |
| 12:24.38 | Bibendus | but it makes the unit invisible to all |
| 12:24.39 | Bibendus | :P |
| 12:25.19 | G0A | multiplayer fps, hmm what about delay?:) |
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| 12:36.05 | A1win | there's a tutorial on the forums for sending actor messages to specific players |
| 12:36.50 | A1win | it uses the flyer helper actor message as a tricky workaround to separate players for the message, and then sends another message to them based on that :x but it works |
| 12:37.04 | A1win | Bibendus, ^ |
| 12:37.11 | Bibendus | wut |
| 12:37.23 | Bibendus | oh k |
| 12:37.40 | Bibendus | G0A it's a partial fps |
| 12:37.54 | A1win | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/19371-tutorial-trigger-data-show-hide-destroy-any-given-actor/ |
| 12:37.55 | Bibendus | u can take control of units but you use abilities world of warcraft style |
| 12:37.57 | A1win | there |
| 12:38.00 | Bibendus | so u don't need full responsiveness |
| 12:38.10 | A1win | it looks more complicated in that tutorial than it actually is |
| 12:38.11 | A1win | :x |
| 12:38.45 | A1win | and you can send pretty much any actor messages |
| 12:39.02 | JademusSreg | plays RoL and open notepad++. |
| 12:39.14 | Bibendus | does it cause |
| 12:39.22 | Bibendus | eventual sync problems |
| 12:39.26 | Bibendus | if not properly done? |
| 12:39.32 | A1win | doubtfully |
| 12:39.35 | A1win | it's just actors |
| 12:39.49 | A1win | which are client side |
| 12:39.56 | JademusSreg | Actors shouldn't be able to cause sync problems; they are asynchronous. |
| 12:40.07 | A1win | ...or that's a better word |
| 12:40.45 | A1win | I use it in CraftCraft to display the halo effect on buildings for specific players |
| 12:40.58 | JademusSreg | Which is to say they take input from synchronous data and such, but they don't output data to synchronous data. |
| 12:40.58 | A1win | when you select a building, it shows halo on all buildings that are in the same power grid with it |
| 12:41.13 | A1win | and I haven't heard of any problems |
| 12:42.50 | G0A | hmm if I would hide units for lagers with this would it improve their fps? |
| 12:43.22 | G0A | (if I would have a map full of units which I could hide) |
| 12:43.48 | JademusSreg | Possibly. Units are still synchronous, but that's less shit to render. |
| 12:44.43 | Ahli | hiding actors increases fps drastically, even if these actors are offscreen |
| 12:46.44 | A1win | mm, though a huge number of units cause performance issues in other ways than by their actors as well (pathfinding mostly I'd guess) |
| 12:47.26 | G0A | Ahli so fog dont hide actors fully but hiding with actor filter does hide actors fully. |
| 12:47.56 | G0A | ohh you were saying offscreen and not fog.) |
| 12:48.15 | Ahli | well, I had problems with building snapshots, the pictures within the fog |
| 12:48.27 | G0A | A1win yes pathfinding which I find were troublingly lagy in sc2. |
| 12:48.28 | Ahli | I assume fog makes them not visible, too ^^ |
| 12:48.55 | A1win | fog makes them not visible if you set them to hide when in fog |
| 12:49.07 | A1win | you can specify Hidden/Visible/Snapshot/Dimmed |
| 12:49.40 | Ahli | I've an actor that is attached to a unit that I want to create a snapshot, too... how could I do that? |
| 12:49.50 | Ahli | setting the actor to snapshot didn't change anything |
| 12:50.23 | A1win | *I have |
| 12:50.44 | A1win | or can you abbretivate like that X_x |
| 12:50.55 | A1win | (in that context) |
| 12:51.13 | A1win | no idea about that though |
| 12:51.56 | Ahli | well, if you see this chat as a form of expressing the spoken form of language, it's ok, I suppose |
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| 12:52.18 | Ahli | It's like you don't write "can't" in texts, but you say it |
| 12:52.22 | Princess_Lun | I return |
| 12:52.29 | A1win | you write that in texts ;p |
| 12:52.50 | Ahli | you write "cannot". But that's the only 'rule' I've learned about that in school... so, I've no idea |
| 12:53.02 | A1win | that's not a rule |
| 12:53.03 | Princess_Lun | "Can not" also works |
| 12:53.07 | A1win | it's just a preference |
| 12:53.29 | A1win | you either write "can't" or "cannot" but use it consistently within the same text |
| 12:53.33 | A1win | ;x |
| 12:53.45 | Princess_Lun | Define text |
| 12:53.57 | A1win | but I mean can you write "I've a car" in opposed to "I have a car" |
| 12:54.15 | Ahli | formal text... can't is informal |
| 12:54.36 | Princess_Lun | All contractions are informal |
| 12:54.43 | Princess_Lun | Because they're fucking awesome |
| 12:54.47 | Princess_Lun | And the domain of youngsters |
| 12:54.51 | A1win | ;p |
| 12:55.13 | Princess_Lun | Thus why old farts decree "FORMAL" and have crazy rules for it |
| 12:55.31 | Princess_Lun | So youngsters try, get confused, don't give a shit, and leave the old people to their boiled goose. |
| 12:55.40 | Ahli | we just cannot keep up with the young boys and girls and their hip new language |
| 12:55.54 | A1win | but I'm not even talking formal/informal, it just doesn't seem right to do that in that case D: |
| 12:56.03 | A1win | like "I've got something" sounds right but "I've something" doesn't |
| 12:56.06 | Princess_Lun | I agree, old chap, 'tis infuriating. |
| 12:56.25 | Princess_Lun | I have something |
| 12:56.29 | Princess_Lun | That sounds right |
| 12:56.45 | A1win | that's what I was trying to clear ;p |
| 12:56.53 | Princess_Lun | Y'all're |
| 12:56.55 | Zolden | y r u talkin bout these subjects? |
| 12:57.14 | Princess_Lun | TRIPLE CONTRACTION! |
| 12:57.52 | Zolden | it's like in tetris, the best one if four |
| 12:58.08 | Zolden | more scores |
| 12:58.24 | Princess_Lun | Don't think I've ever seen a quad contraction |
| 12:58.44 | Zolden | it can be invented and used |
| 12:59.00 | Princess_Lun | It must follow normal conventions, though |
| 12:59.23 | Princess_Lun | Don't think I've ever encountered a sitch where I used four words that're commonly contracted, though |
| 12:59.29 | Zolden | yea, otherwise it would be 1000al contraction |
| 13:00.05 | Zolden | u're just not young enough for this |
| 13:00.23 | Zolden | 10y old motherfuckers do this all the time in their segments of internet |
| 13:00.48 | Princess_Lun | That's not speech, that's random bubblings of the tepid sewers they crawled out of |
| 13:01.03 | G0A | rolf get real:) |
| 13:01.12 | Zolden | :)) |
| 13:02.26 | G0A | reminds me this fabulous addl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H0xPWAtaa8 |
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| 13:20.08 | Ahli | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUpsNiefBE0 |
| 13:44.14 | JademusSreg | GOA, I see The Final Frontier New v1.3 by Vindicator. Is this the one to which you refer? |
| 13:44.36 | G0A | yes |
| 13:44.52 | Zolden | using decals as terrain http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/35/607/boobs_above.jpg |
| 13:45.06 | JademusSreg | The name doesn't quite match version history, haha. |
| 13:45.26 | JademusSreg | Zol, not graphic enough! |
| 13:45.35 | JademusSreg | Also, I played your map. |
| 13:45.42 | Zolden | how is it? |
| 13:46.03 | JademusSreg | Good to bad, I give it 1:9. |
| 13:46.36 | Zolden | confused |
| 13:46.57 | JademusSreg | 1 good quality, 9 bad qualities. |
| 13:47.24 | Zolden | so, it's 9 times bad than good? |
| 13:47.57 | JademusSreg | I took notes while I was playing, and cleaned them up, condensced it down to those qualities. I can pastebin it for you, if you'd like to see it. |
| 13:48.30 | Zolden | sure, give em to me |
| 13:48.38 | G0A | thats nice. you could do that with some of my maps:) |
| 13:48.43 | JademusSreg | I considered doing a more feature-length review, with images to refer to the qualities, but not sure if it's a good use of my time. |
| 13:49.00 | JademusSreg | In any case, I'll maintain my notes, may post them when I have time. |
| 13:49.09 | Zolden | good |
| 13:49.33 | Zolden | I appreciate thoughtful feedback |
| 13:50.25 | JademusSreg | http://pastebin.com/tFxMBuAP |
| 13:51.43 | JademusSreg | I especially don't get why the add=ons are selectable, when other units weren't, like Caravans. Haha |
| 13:52.37 | JademusSreg | On the other hand, the greatest quality of the map was how, despite the style conflict, the content you added, like the icons, were easily readable. |
| 13:52.57 | JademusSreg | Which is to say, it's easy to understand their function, easy to identify them with a glance. |
| 13:53.33 | JademusSreg | The icons of the miners look like miners, when most maps use whatever icons are laying around, sometimes reusing the same icons, making a mess of shit. |
| 13:53.38 | Zolden | oh, nice ones, thanks |
| 13:54.36 | Zolden | though couple of them aren't true, like "structures can't be repaired" and "Unit production is out of player control" |
| 13:55.02 | JademusSreg | Perhaps. I did only play the single-player tutorial mission. =D |
| 13:55.16 | JademusSreg | So I'm not aware of everything available to the player. |
| 13:56.09 | JademusSreg | I certainly didn't see any means of repairing structures, or training units directly. |
| 13:58.14 | JademusSreg | Oh, I forgot, to point out the loading screen, damn. |
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| 13:58.36 | Zolden | what about loading screen? |
| 13:58.44 | JademusSreg | I forgot, haha. |
| 13:58.48 | TwoDie | SUCKS |
| 13:59.16 | Zolden | ok, i wrote down some points into the fix lis, thanks |
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| 14:29.13 | TwoDie | shit happening here |
| 14:31.46 | TwoDie | and still no good idea for landscape, map layout |
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| 14:48.41 | ErikI | How do I increase the height of a projectile fired with a Launch Missile effect? |
| 14:49.16 | ErikI | I've tried increasing the missile unit height, as well as the impact and launch offsets in the launch missile effect |
| 14:51.52 | Zolden | you want it to move higher above the ground? |
| 14:51.53 | ErikI | The ability fires towards a point, not a unit. So I can't set the attachment point on the target to aim for |
| 14:51.55 | ErikI | Yes |
| 14:51.56 | Bibendus | fuck |
| 14:52.06 | Bibendus | my ndo2 is doin crazy stuff on borders |
| 15:00.31 | ErikI | Zolden, do you know how to do it? |
| 15:00.55 | Dustin|Home | Morning |
| 15:02.26 | TwoDie | hey you! |
| 15:03.29 | Zolden | ErikI: don't know how to raise impact height if you target a point |
| 15:04.42 | ErikI | :( |
| 15:07.17 | JademusSreg | GOA: http://pastebin.com/9h7aDmVG |
| 15:07.22 | Dustin|Home | ErikI, |
| 15:07.32 | Dustin|Home | I've been strugiling with that since beta |
| 15:08.05 | Dustin|Home | No way that I was able to accomplish it |
| 15:08.17 | Dustin|Home | Ended up just using a unit as a projectile for the map I needed it on |
| 15:08.20 | ErikI | Me too, it ended with me switching entirely to custom physics |
| 15:08.29 | ErikI | with triggers |
| 15:08.39 | Dustin|Home | Yeah it's kinda fucking stupid |
| 15:08.50 | Dustin|Home | The simnpilest thing of specifying a target Z offset |
| 15:08.54 | Dustin|Home | =/ |
| 15:09.53 | JademusSreg | I should mention the pastebin expires in a day, G0A. |
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| 15:10.43 | G0A | thx JademusSreg |
| 15:11.00 | JademusSreg | No problem. My pleasure, really. Very well done. |
| 15:11.21 | Dustin|Home | What u guys talking about |
| 15:11.42 | JademusSreg | G0A's map. |
| 15:12.45 | G0A | Arbitrary victory condition. Is having x % of total population on the map to win is arbitrary? |
| 15:12.51 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 15:13.08 | JademusSreg | It really ought to be more contingent on other factors. |
| 15:13.25 | JademusSreg | Or outright everyone-else-is-dead. |
| 15:14.05 | JademusSreg | In other words, 90% is a number picked out of a hat; if you saw it in some code, you'd be like "what the fuck is this magic number". |
| 15:15.45 | JademusSreg | I had some fun playing Alien Mode, and it helped me to appreciate the value of research over maintaining a massive standing force. |
| 15:16.47 | JademusSreg | Or rather more accurately, the need to constantly reinforce the standing force with fresh, better adapted units. |
| 15:16.59 | G0A | yeah |
| 15:17.19 | G0A | well I never won by 90% pop as everybody leaves before that.D |
| 15:17.38 | JademusSreg | Yeah, that's a pacing problem, but whatever. |
| 15:17.55 | JademusSreg | Overall, I'm impressed. Best version of the genre I've seen implemented in SC2. |
| 15:19.34 | Dustin|Home | whats ur map called goa |
| 15:19.52 | G0A | Final Frontier |
| 15:19.54 | JademusSreg | http://pastebin.com/9h7aDmVG |
| 15:20.03 | G0A | The Final Frontier new to be correct |
| 15:20.11 | JademusSreg | The Final Frontier New v1.3 |
| 15:20.37 | JademusSreg | That's the whole name, haha. |
| 15:20.39 | TwoDie | So tournament for CoD Black Ops 2 for 1mil dollars |
| 15:23.30 | JademusSreg | I can't tell if there is a pacing problem without playing multiplayer, but I don't have time for that. I, personally, don't have patience to play 1 hour+ matches, and usually aim for 20-35 minutes, max, but I appreciate that the gameplay you've designed is more long-form and methodical, like a Peter Jackson film. |
| 15:27.42 | TwoDie | JademusSreg have tips how to create successful map layout? :D |
| 15:29.34 | JademusSreg | I usually play reading little more than tooltips, because reading anything that distracts me from the game costs a player time. Things I couldn't determine from clicking around and reading tooltips was what roles ship types have, what to do with asteroids, and how to increase the supply cap. And I urge you to add a way to increase hte supply cap if one does not already exist, with a slightly |
| 15:29.34 | JademusSreg | more than linear curve to the expense of researching/building to increase the cap. |
| 15:29.56 | JademusSreg | Two, network diagrams. |
| 15:30.36 | JademusSreg | Before you even touch the terrain editor, graph the gameplay-relevant features that will be on the terrain and figure out how they connect together. |
| 15:31.05 | G0A | JademusSreg I would increase supply cap if sc2 would lag in big battles.. |
| 15:31.14 | G0A | wouldnt* |
| 15:31.38 | JademusSreg | I don't get lag, but then I don't have a shit computer, so I can't say how others perform on the map. |
| 15:32.01 | JademusSreg | But raising the supply cap should be very expensive, and give little in return. |
| 15:32.16 | JademusSreg | It should be an option, especially in long-form games like these. |
| 15:32.17 | G0A | yeah something that I may do |
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| 15:33.12 | JademusSreg | I need some more tea. |
| 15:33.23 | G0A | btw asteroids are just doodads they dont use yet.) |
| 15:33.27 | JademusSreg | Pulled an all-nighter, which has become an all-dayer, as well. |
| 15:33.33 | G0A | dont have use yet* |
| 15:33.41 | JademusSreg | Ah, I was like "how the hell do I mine these?!" |
| 15:33.56 | G0A | :) |
| 15:34.14 | JademusSreg | Probably shouldn't include elements that don't have a use yet; it just confuses and frustrates pplayers. |
| 15:34.21 | G0A | yeah still dont know if its good to have them at all. But empty space is just so empty.D |
| 15:35.21 | JademusSreg | They should do -something- if they must be there. |
| 15:35.22 | whoopsome | Hey, im making a map and trying to figure out how i can make Attack command not move my units.. |
| 15:35.29 | JademusSreg | For instance, damage ships passing through them. |
| 15:35.41 | JademusSreg | That makes positioning and unit management more important, as it should be. |
| 15:36.18 | G0A | nebulae already does that.D |
| 15:36.20 | JademusSreg | Kudos on the nebulas, as well. |
| 15:36.57 | JademusSreg | They looks so pretty. |
| 15:37.20 | JademusSreg | Preciouses. |
| 15:37.24 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 15:38.19 | G0A | :) |
| 15:40.00 | JademusSreg | Any specific questions before I go test some other maps? |
| 15:41.40 | G0A | no |
| 15:42.03 | JademusSreg | kk |
| 15:45.54 | Dustin|Home | anyone wanna hop on NA and help me run a test on ym map? |
| 15:48.11 | JademusSreg | Sure. |
| 15:48.57 | Dustin|Home | lobby filled up magically jade :( |
| 15:49.15 | JademusSreg | No worries. |
| 16:03.43 | Dustin|Home | So pissed |
| 16:03.55 | Dustin|Home | I've NEVER had a problem with my revive trigger |
| 16:04.11 | JademusSreg | ??? |
| 16:04.13 | Dustin|Home | Now all of a sudden randomly people wont repsawn |
| 16:04.16 | Dustin|Home | respawn |
| 16:05.46 | Zolden | http://www.marotochi.it/immagini/sfondi/simpson%20(2).jpg |
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| 16:26.58 | Zolden | sc2println: hey |
| 16:27.34 | Zolden | did I tell you that mirrored mesh look like its normals are inverted? |
| 16:28.09 | Zolden | now trying to figure out, what can fix it, either reuvmapping or rebaking |
| 16:28.28 | sc2println | did you mirrow it in Blender? |
| 16:28.34 | Zolden | in max |
| 16:28.48 | sc2println | might be worth trying it in Blender |
| 16:29.01 | Zolden | ok, i will |
| 16:29.14 | sc2println | It can be done either manually or via the Mirrow Modifier |
| 16:29.37 | Zolden | ok, I'll ask you how if my max experiment won't fix it |
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| 16:36.46 | Zolden | sc2println: ok, how to mirror? |
| 16:36.55 | Zolden | I mirrored leg in max and arm will do in blender |
| 16:37.28 | sc2println | one way is trough the mirror modifier |
| 16:37.32 | sc2println | you select the object |
| 16:37.36 | sc2println | go the modifier tab |
| 16:37.47 | sc2println | and select the mirror modifier from the combo box |
| 16:37.49 | sc2println | to add it |
| 16:38.00 | Ahli | http://snag.gy/ymPbY.jpg |
| 16:38.01 | sc2println | then you might need to adjust the axis at which it mirrows |
| 16:38.51 | sc2println | a video tutorial I just googled: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7ArlYDNi-A |
| 16:39.24 | sc2println | note that you need to apply the modifier before exporting since the exporter does not know how to handle them yet |
| 16:40.48 | Zolden | added mirror, but they intersect, how to move the mirrored mesh aside? |
| 16:40.53 | Zolden | willl it save skin? |
| 16:41.22 | sc2println | you would have to check later by selecting the mesh and looking at the uv map in blender |
| 16:41.42 | sc2println | you can move the selcted vertices |
| 16:41.46 | sc2println | with hotkey "g" |
| 16:41.50 | sc2println | for grap |
| 16:42.25 | Zolden | ok, i think i did it |
| 16:42.30 | Zolden | by random clicking |
| 16:42.36 | sc2println | xD |
| 16:43.02 | Zolden | and i believe applied it |
| 16:43.09 | Zolden | not sure if everything went right |
| 16:43.12 | Zolden | but ok, exporting |
| 16:43.38 | Zolden | exported |
| 16:45.07 | Dustin|Home | Mind is blown |
| 16:45.18 | Dustin|Home | Create these repsawn triggers like over a year ago |
| 16:45.22 | Dustin|Home | Never have a problem with them |
| 16:45.29 | Dustin|Home | now they randomly arnet wroking |
| 16:45.30 | Dustin|Home | wtf |
| 16:45.57 | Zolden | Dustin|Home: patches ruin maps |
| 16:46.01 | Zolden | remake em |
| 16:46.08 | Dustin|Home | I dont know hwats wrong |
| 16:46.10 | Zolden | or try in hots |
| 16:46.21 | Dustin|Home | Random each time |
| 16:46.58 | Zolden | well, u're a sc2 mapper, u should have used to face random senseless shit yet |
| 16:47.10 | Dustin|Home | Oh I am |
| 16:47.17 | Dustin|Home | But this one is blowing my mind |
| 16:47.27 | Dustin|Home | Now he repsawns but the camera doesnt reset... |
| 16:48.32 | Zolden | sc2println: how do you do this? |
| 16:48.52 | Zolden | mirror in blender didn't invert the normal |
| 16:50.23 | sc2println | Zolden: do what? |
| 16:50.48 | Zolden | sc2println: oh, wait, it inverted too |
| 16:50.48 | sc2println | I tried the mirror modifer and it mirrows UVs too |
| 16:50.53 | sc2println | and the normals are normal |
| 16:51.11 | sc2println | in Blender at least |
| 16:52.36 | sc2println | Zolden: so it's okay now? |
| 16:52.40 | Zolden | http://snag.gy/J2QqE.jpg |
| 16:52.42 | Zolden | no |
| 16:52.50 | Zolden | u see? |
| 16:53.26 | Zolden | the one at right is the original, its back has good working normal, and his copy has iverted |
| 16:53.49 | Zolden | but I know what to do, jsut need to rebake normals to the mirrored half |
| 16:54.59 | sc2println | propably, would be interesting to see the difference between the images then |
| 16:55.17 | sc2println | maybe the mirrored parts have just one channel inverted |
| 16:55.25 | sc2println | one image color channel |
| 16:55.27 | Zolden | probably |
| 16:55.40 | Zolden | now i'll try to rebake in max |
| 16:55.43 | sc2println | then it might be possible |
| 16:55.44 | Zolden | should work |
| 16:55.48 | sc2println | to use the invert flag |
| 16:55.58 | sc2println | e.g. to have two seperate meshes |
| 16:56.25 | Zolden | I use 1 material for the whole model |
| 16:56.26 | sc2println | but I don't know if there is a flag to invert just a single channel |
| 16:56.58 | Zolden | well, it's still a workaround, while i'm seeking for the right way to do it, and there is one |
| 16:57.06 | Zolden | i jsut didn't face these problems earlier |
| 16:57.36 | sc2println | strange |
| 16:57.51 | sc2println | Did you test mirrowing a baked cube already? |
| 16:57.56 | sc2println | it might be easier to see |
| 16:58.03 | sc2println | what happens with the uvs |
| 16:58.33 | sc2println | or actually we could just analyse the existing cube |
| 16:59.09 | sc2println | when a cube is using a 1 side texture for all 6 sides |
| 16:59.20 | sc2println | then it would be interesting how it's Uvs are |
| 16:59.39 | sc2println | if they are simply mirrowed or not |
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| 17:00.24 | sc2println | Zolden: That might really help to get an understanding for it |
| 17:02.40 | Zolden | sc2println: ok, we can perform the test |
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| 17:02.49 | Zolden | just lemme finish the bake test |
| 17:08.14 | Dustin|Home | Guys its funny |
| 17:08.17 | Dustin|Home | Cause im baking too |
| 17:08.25 | Dustin|Home | And im not cooking or modeling |
| 17:10.42 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 17:13.30 | Zolden | :) |
| 17:13.41 | Zolden | sc2println: ok, rebaking didn't help |
| 17:14.01 | Zolden | maybe i should have mirror the pivot? |
| 17:14.04 | Zolden | because wtf |
| 17:16.14 | Zolden | no, pivot seems the same |
| 17:19.15 | Dustin|Home | Zolden, good idea, i need to re bake too |
| 17:20.17 | Zolden | at least you'll get what you want in your case |
| 17:30.34 | Zolden | sc2println: ok, nothing helped, let's do the cube test |
| 17:30.53 | Zolden | i'll make 2 identical cubes, one of them is mirrored |
| 17:31.07 | Zolden | will mirror after baking |
| 17:33.21 | sc2println | Zolden: one imported thing to do before rebaking the normals is to assign the two parts different Uvs |
| 17:33.43 | sc2println | the cube test should show it |
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| 18:10.35 | JademusSreg | I wonder how many beneficial computer worms have been developed. How many do you suppose spread first, then attempt to install legitimate anti-virus software on host machines, which then clean the worm? |
| 18:11.17 | Ahli | none? |
| 18:11.48 | JademusSreg | At least some. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_worm#Worms_with_good_intent |
| 18:15.03 | JademusSreg | You should hope the advent of AI is a long way off, otherwise you'll have bots using social engineering and incredibly precise spear phishing. =D |
| 18:15.20 | Zolden | people wiil be a pity bugs watching the global war of worms from the roadside of the existance |
| 18:15.41 | JademusSreg | Sounds apt. |
| 18:16.22 | Zolden | they just need to start evolving |
| 18:16.51 | Zolden | like bacteria |
| 18:17.23 | JademusSreg | In fact, with the advent of genuine synthetic intelligence, you'd have malware that could reinvent itself or its progeny, advertisements tailored specifically to your every detail by a restless ephemeral stallker. |
| 18:18.16 | JademusSreg | Though on the plus side, the "AIdvent" would also probably lead to AIs advertising to and stalking one another in some crazy clusterfucking ecosystem. =D |
| 18:18.48 | Zolden | ye |
| 18:19.32 | JademusSreg | If two scamming AIs both confirm one another pass the turing test, then they would get tangled up in scamming one another, it stands to reason. Haha |
| 18:21.27 | Zolden | nature never asserted it cares about biologicality too much, its laws should work for any self-reproducing evolving systems |
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| 18:22.32 | JademusSreg | Yes, it seems intuitive that natural selection should apply wherever there is competition for resources and modification over time. |
| 18:23.17 | JademusSreg | I am reminded of a particular comic. |
| 18:23.33 | Zolden | they will have better and smarter turing tests inside them to distinguish between humans and other programs with a perfect precision |
| 18:26.29 | Zolden | and if they find ways to ally and work together and join symbiotic relationship, it will be like an evolution of multicellular organisms |
| 18:27.00 | JademusSreg | Haha, recursive turing test to test if the test itself... |
| 18:27.56 | Zolden | they could share functions, some parts to recognize images, some to fight other programs, some to recognize texts, some have firewalls, some to sex other programs |
| 18:29.14 | JademusSreg | Which reminds me of another comic. |
| 18:29.45 | JademusSreg | But yes, it borders on a sort of recursively nested set of simulation singularities. |
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| 19:14.05 | RiFT | What is the simplest way for an ability to be unable to target morphing units? |
| 19:14.42 | JademusSreg | Hm. Behavior, attribute, maybe even a flag. |
| 19:14.52 | JademusSreg | Attribute is super simple, but not scalable. |
| 19:15.14 | JademusSreg | Since there is a finite number of attributes (like Massive, Robotic, Mechanical). |
| 19:15.23 | JademusSreg | Behavior is scalable. |
| 19:15.53 | JademusSreg | Morphing should be a detectable flag, but I'm not sure what all can detect it, so it's an unknown. |
| 19:16.42 | RiFT | someone said to use a tech alias |
| 19:17.13 | JademusSreg | That's terrible. Even if it works, it's not scalable. |
| 19:17.30 | JademusSreg | Because they will be treated equally for all tech checks. |
| 19:17.41 | JademusSreg | Too much potential for conflict. |
| 19:17.42 | RiFT | >.> i made a custom tech alias |
| 19:17.54 | RiFT | so that might be why it's not doing anything |
| 19:18.42 | JademusSreg | Better off applying a behavior on the morph, and remove it when it completes. |
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| 19:19.14 | RiFT | that was my idea, a pain to do that for every relevant morph so i just wanted to check here first |
| 19:21.06 | RiFT | so i just use ability commands-morph info-effects-stats? and then make sets for ones that already have effects there? |
| 19:21.50 | RiFT | or can i put it under other parts of the effects section? |
| 19:35.17 | JademusSreg | Hopefully the former, haha. |
| 19:35.25 | JademusSreg | Whichever is less convoluted. |
| 19:36.22 | G0A | lol this game http://testtubegames.com/velocityraptor.html |
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| 19:41.06 | JademusSreg | Cool concept. If the controls didn't handle like poop, I might enjoy playing it. =D |
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| 20:01.02 | Taintedwisp | BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!! |
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| 20:09.12 | Ahli | I can't manage to get the colors matching in level 17 ahh |
| 20:10.41 | Bommes | is that the one with the 3 keys and the waterhole in the middle while one turret is shooting from the top? |
| 20:10.43 | Bommes | or is it past that? |
| 20:11.57 | Bommes | ah thats 12 apparently |
| 20:11.59 | Ahli | that one with a door first, cannon second and door third |
| 20:12.05 | Bommes | that's where i gave up because its stupid |
| 20:12.05 | Ahli | *lock third |
| 20:12.05 | Bommes | :D |
| 20:12.20 | Ahli | I think I need to reach light speed to the -> |
| 20:12.57 | Repo | New map: Zombie Craft 2 - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/zombie-craft-2/ |
| 20:13.02 | Bommes | how did you get past 12? |
| 20:13.07 | Bommes | it doesn't really make sense to me |
| 20:13.24 | Ahli | what was 12? |
| 20:13.41 | Bommes | because there's one key on the right which is really deep blue and one on the left which is almost yellow already (which is the color of the lock) |
| 20:14.00 | Bommes | so to get the one key yellow i would have to go really fast into the direction of the one which is already yellow |
| 20:14.02 | Ahli | is that the one where you move upwards to make the colors match? |
| 20:14.06 | Bommes | hm |
| 20:14.09 | Bommes | i'll try |
| 20:14.17 | Ahli | if that thing was a bit of a U form |
| 20:14.28 | Bommes | oh |
| 20:14.32 | Bommes | you just have to match them in any color? |
| 20:14.38 | Bommes | i thought you have to match them in the color of the lock |
| 20:14.49 | Bommes | i was trying to get them all yellow the whole time :D |
| 20:15.47 | Taintedwisp | WHO WANTS TO WRITE ME SOME TRIGGERS!!!! |
| 20:15.48 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 20:15.57 | Ahli | I unlocked it when I tried to move through the water |
| 20:16.05 | Ahli | but I died :S |
| 20:16.12 | Taintedwisp | Ahli Gimme a big wad of cash!! |
| 20:16.38 | Ahli | I've none |
| 20:17.58 | Ahli | using the area where you pass the cannonballs worked |
| 20:18.24 | Ahli | oh god, now the time is changing :D |
| 20:22.26 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 20:22.57 | Ahli | moving objects bend.... |
| 20:23.26 | Ahli | ohhhh myyyyyyyy |
| 20:32.02 | Ahli | 31 is enough for me |
| 20:34.36 | Zolden | Ahli: nice ground texture there http://snag.gy/ymPbY.jpg |
| 20:35.22 | Ahli | it's a default one in sc2? |
| 20:37.01 | Zolden | dunno, look cool |
| 20:37.05 | Ahli | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=396671 |
| 20:37.48 | JademusSreg | Bark. |
| 20:38.05 | Zolden | meow |
| 20:38.09 | JademusSreg | What happened while I was gone? |
| 20:38.24 | Zolden | i was gone, - that's happened |
| 20:38.25 | JademusSreg | Did I miss all the moist naked humans making sex at each other? |
| 20:38.48 | Zolden | it just happened in my imagination, thanks to you |
| 20:40.12 | JademusSreg | (For your benefit Zolden, I should explain that I employed unnatural grammatical and lexical structures for humorous purpose, in case that got lost in translation.) |
| 20:40.43 | JademusSreg | =D |
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| 20:41.33 | Dustin|Home | I love how Jade had to explain his jokes lol |
| 20:41.58 | JademusSreg | <3 |
| 20:44.39 | Zolden | wow, this reminded me a movie name i forgot and failed to remember |
| 20:44.43 | Zolden | lost in translation |
| 20:44.52 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 20:45.07 | JademusSreg | Bill Murrey and Scarlet Whoeverson. |
| 20:45.13 | Zolden | yea |
| 20:47.29 | JademusSreg | Oh shit, I just noticed Bounty's Ling Ling Rocket is available to Starter Edition. Nice. |
| 20:51.08 | TwoDie | Finally found the problem why i couldn make normal landscape, Too far the camera was!!! DETAILZ DETAILS DETAILS!!! |
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| 21:32.52 | Saeris | dustin|home, do you know anything about javascript/jquery? |
| 21:33.14 | Vail|gone | Taintedwisp |
| 21:36.42 | TwoDie | But now you gone! |
| 21:38.17 | Dustin|Home | Ya |
| 21:39.18 | Saeris | can you help me out with this problem? i've been tearing my head out over it >.< |
| 21:39.24 | Saeris | let me paste up the code for you |
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| 21:39.55 | Dustin|Home | sure! |
| 21:39.58 | Dustin|Home | ill brb though |
| 21:44.22 | Taintedwisp | Okay, so then now the base defense system is finished :D |
| 21:44.33 | Dustin|Home | back |
| 21:44.39 | Dustin|Home | lets play it then tainted |
| 21:44.52 | Saeris | i'll have it up for you in a min or two dustin |
| 21:44.55 | Taintedwisp | Heroes Base defense, Events, bosses, all ready for beta, just need some visuals for SOME spells, and then some balancing :P |
| 21:44.56 | Saeris | need to add in some comments |
| 21:45.14 | Dustin|Home | kk |
| 21:52.29 | Taintedwisp | you know my old triggerer told me ages ago how to work this damn hero select to add the heroes abilities... |
| 21:52.34 | Taintedwisp | I totally forgot -_- |
| 21:52.35 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 21:52.49 | Taintedwisp | Now I just copy/paste the examples and put random numbers until I get them correct |
| 21:52.51 | Taintedwisp | hah |
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| 22:00.09 | Daara | i swear some people are so stupid -_- |
| 22:00.48 | Daara | this girl is saying she never eats at bk because of things like horse meat being used in burgers |
| 22:01.11 | Saeris | alright dustin|home here's the paste: http://pastebin.com/9aLkXyyN |
| 22:01.16 | Daara | can anyone explain to me the differences between horse meat, pork, or beef? |
| 22:02.41 | Triceron | Horse Meat = Horse, Pork = Pig meat, Beef = Cow meat |
| 22:02.51 | Triceron | Taste = Same |
| 22:02.52 | Triceron | j/k |
| 22:04.21 | Saeris | also FYI, all the backslashes are to escape out those quotes |
| 22:04.37 | Saeris | since it's being echoed out by PHP |
| 22:04.41 | Taintedwisp | AND THERE I AM RID OF MY Data editor!!!>!>!> |
| 22:04.49 | Taintedwisp | LETS HAVE SOME CELEBRATION!! |
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| 22:10.43 | Taintedwisp | Yo Vailreth are you a triggerer? |
| 22:11.07 | Vailreth | oh no |
| 22:11.17 | Taintedwisp | dang, alright |
| 22:11.26 | Taintedwisp | I pretty much just canned both my Data editor and Trigger editor... |
| 22:11.27 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:11.57 | Taintedwisp | okie just wanted to make sure |
| 22:12.11 | Taintedwisp | Imma contact soulcarver and see if hes become interested in mapping again hahah |
| 22:14.31 | Vailreth | what trriggers do youi need? |
| 22:16.09 | Taintedwisp | 1 sec, I made a concept art |
| 22:16.22 | Taintedwisp | http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/BossBarCOncept_zps2790e4e9.jpg |
| 22:16.35 | Taintedwisp | I want something thats Wider and thinner then that but basically that |
| 22:16.36 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:16.50 | Taintedwisp | Wider and shorter* |
| 22:17.28 | Taintedwisp | a visual bar to show the player what tier he is and how much more bio he will need to tier up |
| 22:17.50 | Taintedwisp | plus a picture that shows the current evolved race :P |
| 22:18.00 | Taintedwisp | So yeah... |
| 22:18.29 | Taintedwisp | Bosses, and events are set up, some more bosses need to be made and some more events, but the framework is there |
| 22:18.46 | Taintedwisp | Most of the bosses and events are already complete events thanks to dustin and nooblark.. |
| 22:19.01 | Taintedwisp | boss framework was the only thing my last triggerer did |
| 22:24.11 | nooblark | tainted sux |
| 22:24.22 | Daara | nothing new about startools? |
| 22:25.52 | nooblark | wtb Taz |
| 22:27.09 | Taintedwisp | nooblark, what projects you working on? |
| 22:27.39 | nooblark | none |
| 22:27.59 | nooblark | i have a whole bunch i' jus not doing. |
| 22:28.01 | nooblark | llol |
| 22:28.22 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:28.46 | nooblark | taz and i might start a new project |
| 22:28.52 | nooblark | you need your stupid events still? |
| 22:30.03 | Taintedwisp | :P yeah, but I am also looking for an actual triggerer :P mainly for http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/BossBarCOncept_zps2790e4e9.jpg but events, and to redo nearly everything in "Tainted's SHitty Triggers" |
| 22:30.38 | nooblark | is the bar already implemented? |
| 22:31.03 | Taintedwisp | nope none of it is, Bio-Mass is Implemented in the Evolution system |
| 22:31.19 | Taintedwisp | well technically the bar is the defualt boss bar :P |
| 22:31.27 | nooblark | where ddid you get that pic from |
| 22:31.41 | Taintedwisp | Well I took the Sc2 Boss bar, and then did some photoshoppin |
| 22:31.41 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:31.45 | Daara | think i need to move all my imported files over to a mod lol |
| 22:31.54 | Daara | editor takes forever atm |
| 22:32.10 | Vailreth | that may take a while in and of its self |
| 22:32.17 | Vailreth | but likely just once |
| 22:32.42 | nooblark | sooo |
| 22:32.51 | nooblark | dialog bar? leadboard? |
| 22:33.06 | Taintedwisp | If the dialog bar is implemented the leaderbord just needs to have a coloum removed |
| 22:33.24 | nooblark | didn't i give you a psuedo one already? |
| 22:33.29 | Taintedwisp | When the dialog bar is added, 2 or 3 dialog UI elements will be removed |
| 22:33.38 | Taintedwisp | a what>? |
| 22:33.44 | nooblark | bar |
| 22:33.51 | Vailreth | what if instead of a bar you used a bunch of sliding graphics that look like a bar of organic material growing and shrinking... |
| 22:33.58 | Taintedwisp | I dont think you added any bars |
| 22:34.08 | nooblark | i remember doing something wtih a bar |
| 22:34.10 | Taintedwisp | that would be awesome vailreth :D |
| 22:34.19 | Taintedwisp | but I dont know how to do anything like that :P |
| 22:34.23 | Vailreth | i shall work on it |
| 22:34.28 | Vailreth | in a test map |
| 22:34.30 | Taintedwisp | or how to even make a picture of how it would look |
| 22:34.36 | Daara | it's taking my map like a minute to save -_- |
| 22:34.39 | Taintedwisp | I would want it to be a long bar in the subtitle area |
| 22:34.46 | Taintedwisp | haha Okay vailreth :D |
| 22:35.04 | Daara | 685 imported textures and models, not including what i have in my other mod |
| 22:35.53 | nooblark | i'm falling aslee |
| 22:35.56 | nooblark | maybe another day |
| 22:39.37 | ErikI | Is there a way to tint doodads with triggers? |
| 22:40.13 | Zolden | triggers can send messages to actors |
| 22:40.17 | Zolden | so yes |
| 22:40.28 | ErikI | Well, how do I go from actors to doodads |
| 22:40.33 | ErikI | I know doodads are basically an actor |
| 22:40.49 | ErikI | ah |
| 22:40.50 | ErikI | I found it |
| 22:41.02 | Zolden | you can, for example, select all actors of some type in an area and send them change tint color message |
| 22:41.43 | ErikI | Well, that sounds ever more interesting |
| 22:41.55 | ErikI | I never found out how to pick doodads in a region |
| 22:42.13 | Taintedwisp | And Mozared told me that mapster rarely has 502 bad gateway... |
| 22:42.19 | Taintedwisp | It happens all the time -_- |
| 22:42.36 | Zolden | it happens once a month for a few seconds |
| 22:42.41 | Zolden | for me |
| 22:42.54 | Zolden | but i dion't f5 mapster eavey few minutes |
| 22:43.03 | ErikI | Zolden, how would I filter based on type? |
| 22:43.18 | Zolden | don't remember, jsut check all actor related triggers |
| 22:43.20 | Taintedwisp | Well Imma take a break, hey vailreth if you want you can copy/paste evofrenzy map from the drop box and test on a local copy :P |
| 22:43.30 | Vailreth | ok |
| 22:46.35 | sc2println | nice Blender rigging tutorial for anyone interested: http://cgcookie.com/blender/2012/02/01/character-modeling-creating-a-cartoon-style-groundhog-part-04/ |
| 22:48.10 | Taintedwisp | Println you may have blender but can you do.http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Terrain016_zpsbe49c0f5.jpg |
| 22:48.12 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:48.42 | Zolden | lol |
| 22:51.24 | Triceron | wow, that's a lot of assets Daara |
| 22:51.31 | Triceron | are most of those environment? |
| 22:51.52 | Daara | uhm... |
| 22:51.56 | Daara | i'd say its about half and half atm |
| 22:52.58 | Bommes | is there a way to make creep not snapshot? |
| 22:54.55 | ErikI | Anyone knows why coloring the protoss decal red makes it disappear? |
| 22:55.54 | Daara | because colors are done via alpha channels |
| 22:56.52 | sc2println | Taintedwisp funny :) |
| 22:57.20 | ErikI | Daara, can you elaborate? Is there a way to color it red without making it disappear? |
| 22:57.28 | Daara | what color is it? |
| 22:57.38 | ErikI | Blue |
| 22:58.35 | Zolden | you can make it red in blender |
| 22:58.54 | ErikI | Sigh, I had hoped I would be able to do it by sending an actor message |
| 22:59.09 | sc2println | you could create an animation |
| 22:59.18 | ErikI | Oh well, it's not super important, |
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| 22:59.35 | ErikI | I have a ton of other stuff to focus on. I just hoped I could implement this quickly. |
| 22:59.52 | Zolden | ErikI: try to change its texture by texture select by id |
| 23:00.08 | Daara | could try that too |
| 23:04.30 | Daara | wtf |
| 23:04.38 | Daara | there are For the Alliance and For the Horde decals o.O |
| 23:06.43 | Triceron | yah, from collectors |
| 23:07.28 | Bommes | Daara: How much MB are all these assets? |
| 23:07.40 | Daara | under 30 mbs atm |
| 23:07.47 | Daara | total of about 850 |
| 23:10.59 | JademusSreg | This evening, dinner is creamy chicken asparagus over penne al dente. I hope you enjoy it. |
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| 23:12.10 | Daara | cuttle fish and asparagus? or vanilla paste? VANILLA PASTE VANILLA PAST!! |
| 23:14.27 | Bommes | Hmm |
| 23:14.32 | Bommes | does anyone have any good audio book recommendations? |
| 23:14.51 | Triceron | Anyone here know much about modelling in max? |
| 23:14.52 | Bommes | or other recommendations that I can listen to in the background, instead of music |
| 23:15.04 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 23:15.10 | Triceron | World War Z, I really enjoyed that audiobook |
| 23:15.18 | Taintedwisp | This Path of Exile is GREAT!! |
| 23:15.25 | Taintedwisp | they did a really good job on it |
| 23:15.41 | JademusSreg | Tri, my father also enjoyed the audiobook. =D |
| 23:16.08 | Bommes | thx I'll check it out :) |
| 23:16.19 | JademusSreg | I enjoy a number of the ideas presented in PoE. |
| 23:16.39 | JademusSreg | However, the single worst thing about the game is the atrocious visual design. |
| 23:17.24 | JademusSreg | It's so bad, so busy and messy and disorienting, I can't play it, despite the wonderful mechanics. |
| 23:17.44 | Taintedwisp | I actually love the art style :P |
| 23:17.44 | Bommes | is PoE released by now? |
| 23:17.51 | JademusSreg | Open beta. |
| 23:17.53 | Taintedwisp | its in Open Beta |
| 23:17.58 | Taintedwisp | sooo pretty much released :P |
| 23:18.03 | Bommes | ic |
| 23:18.04 | Taintedwisp | F2P in beta usually have the full game |
| 23:18.16 | JademusSreg | I encourage everyone to try it, hell yeah. Don't take my word for it. |
| 23:18.53 | Bommes | yeah I played it a little some time ago but I don't really enjoy Diablo style games in general and I didn't like the visual style |
| 23:19.15 | Bommes | I see how its appealing though :) And they probably added a lot more cool stuff compared to when I played it |
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| 23:21.01 | Zolden | Triceron: what about modellling in max? |
| 23:21.58 | Triceron | know how I can select faces of an entire mesh without manually grabbing em all? I have a model that's got a bunch of combined pieces, like hands with a staff. I just wanna select the staff faces |
| 23:22.18 | JademusSreg | The decision to lean more toward photorealism really mucks up an otherwise lovely game. |
| 23:22.19 | Triceron | is there an easy way to do soemthing like that? |
| 23:22.47 | Zolden | select the mesh, press 5, click on the stuff, may work |
| 23:22.48 | JademusSreg | That, and the controls feel to sluggish, not quite responsive. |
| 23:23.13 | Triceron | zomg that's exactly what I needed |
| 23:23.14 | Triceron | thanks |
| 23:23.22 | Zolden | :) |
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| 23:33.20 | JademusSreg | PoE's approach to equipment/abilities is brilliant and very Final Fantasy 7/9. |
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| 23:34.30 | JademusSreg | Almost certainly will keep the gameplay fresh for a long time, as players are able to adapt to situations well if they exercise discretion. |
| 23:39.18 | Taintedwisp | yeah, In Diablo 2 you won by just standing and shooting in PoE its starting to get to a point where you actually have to Kite units :D |
| 23:45.36 | nooblark | tainted |
| 23:45.42 | nooblark | you never played hardcore d2. |
| 23:46.01 | nooblark | and you have until i start to fall asleep at my desk to get some trigger work from me |
| 23:46.16 | nooblark | which i can't gaurantee is a long time. |
| 23:47.48 | Daara | what's this? |
| 23:47.57 | Daara | taintedwisp and eternalwraith agreeing on something? |
| 23:48.03 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:48.17 | Daara | i must be dreaming |
| 23:48.47 | Zolden | they did? |
| 23:48.57 | Zolden | a bear died in a forest |
| 23:49.51 | JademusSreg | I like what PoE is doing, Taint, sincerely. But the visual design is dreadful; it's like eating garbage with my eyes. |
| 23:50.15 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:50.33 | Triceron | I thought it was Diablo 2 when I first saw pics of it |
| 23:50.45 | Taintedwisp | meh I like it, my only problem is anytime theres INSIDE the ground blends badly with the walls |
| 23:50.48 | JademusSreg | HAhaha, Diablo 2 was messy, but not -that- bad. |
| 23:50.51 | Taintedwisp | thats a texture problem though |
| 23:51.19 | JademusSreg | In fact, I'd happily play the game if they release a texture pack to make it less terrible. |
| 23:51.37 | Triceron | yeah, D2 sprites are tiny, the resolution doens't hold up |
| 23:52.00 | Triceron | if they supported higher resolutions, you'd be able to see the entire map and your character would be a dot |
| 23:52.09 | Triceron | RTS XD |
| 23:53.06 | Daara | JademusSreg, you've ate garbage with your eyes? |
| 23:53.17 | JademusSreg | I'm refering to PoE, though. I wouldn't play either D2 or D3 again unless they add content worth experiencing. Like new quests for followers and their backstory, and different questlines for each class. |
| 23:54.01 | JademusSreg | Daar, yes, regularly. Part of my cornea-toughening regiment. |
| 23:54.02 | nooblark | i'd play d2 again in a heartbeat. d3, not so much |
| 23:54.36 | Daara | lol |
| 23:55.12 | JademusSreg | I can bend a spoon with my grotesque, vein-ridden eyelids. |
| 23:55.13 | Daara | i like d3, i dislike the replay value it currently has |
| 23:55.22 | Daara | there is none |
| 23:55.24 | JademusSreg | Which is to say none. HAha |
| 23:55.27 | JademusSreg | Damn. |
| 23:55.34 | Bommes | Agreed |
| 23:55.44 | Bommes | I also think they ran into obvious problems that they should have fixed before release |
| 23:55.49 | Daara | replay value is used up when leveling and finding gear... |
| 23:56.06 | Daara | i should only have to rerun the whole act for fun |
| 23:56.10 | Daara | not to get gear |
| 23:56.12 | Bommes | like how the high difficulties worked and that you are maxlevel before beating the game |
| 23:56.21 | Bommes | and that its almost impossible to beat the game in a group |
| 23:56.24 | JademusSreg | For example, why bother with an alt? If the content is exactly the same, why would I spend time I could better spend pointlessly leveling my main? |
| 23:56.25 | Bommes | that was such a joke right after release |
| 23:56.30 | Ousnius | yo |
| 23:56.35 | Bommes | also I dislike the classes available |
| 23:56.51 | Daara | WHAT HAPPEND TO GETTING YOUR HEAD BITTEN OFF BY BOSSES? |
| 23:56.51 | Bommes | never really felt Witch Doctor, Monk, Demon Hunter |
| 23:57.11 | Ousnius | http://soundcloud.com/gryphace/dubstep_15-private-wip/s-cdgH1/s-cdgH1 you guys think I could make soundstracks for games with my skill levels at the moment? and http://soundcloud.com/gryphace/orchestral-05 |
| 23:57.29 | Ousnius | nvm the name (and beat @ end) |
| 23:58.03 | Daara | is that static sound suppose to be in there? |
| 23:58.49 | Ousnius | I think something went wrong while linking http://soundcloud.com/gryphace/dubstep_15-private-wip/s-cdgH1 |
| 23:59.02 | Ousnius | static sound? |
| 23:59.28 | Bommes | yeah it's nice |
| 23:59.30 | Bommes | I like both of them |
| 23:59.40 | Daara | sound pretty good to me |
| 23:59.44 | JademusSreg | I love my female monk, Albinoa. I love playing, because the gameplay is masterfully designed. But what fun is there is pounding the same dozen enemies into an orgiastic expulsion pf bloody gibs in the same dozen locations for an arbitrary POWER LEVEL ad infinitum? |
| 23:59.47 | Daara | the 2nd one has some static in it though |
| 23:59.52 | Daara | at the beginning |
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