| 00:01.18 | Daara | fucking loving it |
| 00:01.25 | Taintedwisp | Anyone |
| 00:01.27 | Taintedwisp | ? |
| 00:01.37 | Taintedwisp | I wanna do a teleport effect but have the burrow animations play |
| 00:01.37 | Daara | stil haven't gotten my pin from ups yet so i can't sell my stock |
| 00:01.50 | Daara | stock is down $2.50 since i've tried to sell it |
| 00:02.01 | Daara | $1800 loss for me |
| 00:02.04 | Daara | fucking loving it |
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| 00:03.13 | Daara | what's the event that you're using to trigger the animation? |
| 00:04.11 | Daara | behavior gain is the easiest imo |
| 00:04.16 | Daara | or birth |
| 00:04.41 | Daara | Behavior.Teleporting.On |
| 00:04.46 | Daara | Animation Play Burrow |
| 00:04.55 | Taintedwisp | what I want to do daara, is have a teleport ability that borrows and unborrows |
| 00:05.23 | Daara | teleport like blink? |
| 00:05.27 | Daara | or teleport like recall? |
| 00:05.27 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 00:05.29 | Triceron | you want to do Daara? didn't think you swung that way |
| 00:05.31 | Taintedwisp | but with burrows :P |
| 00:05.37 | Taintedwisp | like blink |
| 00:06.15 | Daara | like blink and then burrow or blink while burrowed? |
| 00:07.10 | Daara | burrowing switches actors too |
| 00:07.18 | Daara | so it's not just playing an animation |
| 00:07.47 | Daara | you'll need to give the unit a behavior after it blinks so it knows to play the animation and switch actors |
| 00:09.06 | Taintedwisp | Okay i want to make a teleport ability(done) that when I use it the unit burrows, Blinks then unborrows |
| 00:09.22 | Taintedwisp | I think i can do this with just the 1 effect and the rest in actors |
| 00:09.42 | Daara | probably |
| 00:09.58 | Daara | like i said though you'll need to apply the burrow behavior after the blink though |
| 00:10.12 | Daara | and the unburrow for the 2nd one |
| 00:14.41 | Zolden | lol |
| 00:14.44 | Zolden | Otixa: what was that |
| 00:14.52 | Zolden | what an ugly creature |
| 00:14.59 | Zolden | it shoul be immediately shot |
| 00:15.46 | Taintedwisp | i got half of it daara :OP |
| 00:15.55 | Taintedwisp | i got it to unborrow correctly without a buff :P |
| 00:16.34 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: have you tried my Rise of Legends map? |
| 00:16.38 | Taintedwisp | nope |
| 00:16.44 | Zolden | COME AND TRY |
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| 00:20.02 | Taintedwisp | busy |
| 00:20.45 | nooblark | HERRO PEOPLE |
| 00:21.50 | Otixa | HALLO |
| 00:22.10 | nooblark | i'm now at level 2 lockpicking |
| 00:22.18 | nooblark | so excited to become grand master |
| 00:25.04 | RiFT | so I have an ability that doesn't seem to do anything aside from cost energy the first time is cast but works fine after that, has anyone else had an issue like this or know what would cause it? |
| 00:25.15 | Bommes | Taintedwisp: How do you want to tell the unit when to burrow when you have no effect that tells the unit to do that? |
| 00:25.57 | Bommes | Taintedwisp: Just launch a missile to the unburrow spot, tell the unit actor to burrow when launching the missile and unburrow when the teleport effect fires (on impact of the missile) |
| 00:26.11 | Taintedwisp | right now I am using TargetPreparestart and TargetFinishStop |
| 00:26.11 | Bommes | and make the flight duration of the missile equal to the burrow animation time |
| 00:26.16 | Taintedwisp | using the ability |
| 00:26.46 | Bommes | Hmm, could also work :) I don't have experience with that |
| 00:26.55 | Bommes | try testing with that, should be a good idea |
| 00:27.00 | Bommes | does it work already? |
| 00:27.20 | Taintedwisp | its working but im not good with actor event animations :P |
| 00:28.04 | Bommes | What's the problem? |
| 00:28.38 | Taintedwisp | one sec lemme check 1 more time I just changes somet higns |
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| 00:30.08 | Taintedwisp | GOT IT !!! |
| 00:30.09 | Taintedwisp | :D |
| 00:30.14 | Taintedwisp | its working good now |
| 00:30.21 | Taintedwisp | Had to add a prepare phase to the ability |
| 00:30.29 | Taintedwisp | and then change anim group to anim play |
| 00:31.06 | Bommes | ok good :) |
| 00:32.24 | Bommes | I have a similar ability in my map, but my AI has to use it which gets commands every 1-2 seconds that can be pretty random |
| 00:32.47 | Bommes | I don't really trust all the channeled spells and prepare times and stuff for that because I fear it just gets canceled by the next command if I do that stuff |
| 00:32.54 | Bommes | that's why I used a missile :P |
| 00:33.27 | Bommes | not very elegant though |
| 00:33.50 | Taintedwisp | :d |
| 00:33.55 | Bommes | but it's cool that I can vary the burrow time depending on how far away the unit burrows |
| 00:33.58 | Bommes | if I want |
| 00:33.58 | Taintedwisp | i dont have a cancel option :P |
| 00:34.28 | Bommes | yeah that's possible I guess |
| 00:34.37 | Bommes | but I didn't trust any options that I have never tried before :P |
| 00:35.23 | Bommes | and I didn't want to waste much time for that ability by having to trial&error because it's malfunctioning with my ai |
| 00:39.54 | nooblark | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqtwU2rZn4o |
| 00:39.55 | nooblark | lool |
| 00:40.29 | nooblark | why yo gonna take my last 30 dolla man, that all the money i got left man, comon that my last 30 dolla |
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| 00:48.46 | nooblark | no one thought that was funny? |
| 00:49.18 | JademusSreg | didn't click on it. |
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| 00:50.56 | Taintedwisp | too busy to care. |
| 00:51.14 | Taintedwisp | imma try to finish all my heroes by tomorrow |
| 00:51.15 | RiFT | is was ok considering it was Cops |
| 00:51.20 | Taintedwisp | sick and fucking tired of waiting on my data editor |
| 00:51.45 | QueenG | hey guys |
| 00:51.52 | Taintedwisp | Hey QueenG |
| 00:52.09 | QueenG | you should ask on sc2mapster if anyone is interested in working on your heroes |
| 00:55.59 | Dustin|Home | :O :O :O :O |
| 00:56.00 | Dustin|Home | Omg |
| 00:56.08 | Dustin|Home | I can't tell you guys... |
| 00:56.13 | Dustin|Home | Just be excited |
| 00:56.16 | Dustin|Home | !!! |
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| 00:57.25 | Taintedwisp | thats what I did QUeenG :P and I ended up with a lazy retard who in 2 months has done VERY little more then waste my time |
| 00:58.07 | QueenG | i c |
| 00:58.18 | QueenG | no more waiting, he/she is probably flaked on you |
| 00:58.30 | QueenG | lets go ask if anyone is good with the data |
| 00:58.51 | nooblark | dustin |
| 00:58.53 | nooblark | OMG WHAT IS IT |
| 00:59.07 | QueenG | i dunno about u, but a good idea would be to provide a thorough guideline of what you want in your map so there will be less questions exchanged |
| 00:59.23 | Dustin|Home | I WANNA TELL YOU SO BAD |
| 00:59.32 | Dustin|Home | But I cant :(! |
| 00:59.34 | Saeris | lol |
| 00:59.57 | Saeris | i get the feeling i might know what it is, but I wouldn't be able to say anything either =] |
| 01:00.50 | Taintedwisp | wtf |
| 01:00.55 | Taintedwisp | now its saying I have to target a unit |
| 01:01.43 | Otixa | Blizz-Deletarius, you there? |
| 01:01.43 | Dustin|Home | secret high fives Saeris |
| 01:01.58 | Otixa | Dustin|Home Saeris, dafuq you tards on about? ;p |
| 01:03.02 | Dustin|Home | CANT SAY |
| 01:03.08 | Dustin|Home | :D |
| 01:03.09 | Otixa | >:| |
| 01:03.11 | Otixa | Tell me anyway |
| 01:03.13 | nooblark | hey dustin |
| 01:03.16 | Dustin|Home | So im getting pissed at my map |
| 01:03.17 | nooblark | guess what |
| 01:03.23 | nooblark | I DON'T GIVE A FUK |
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| 01:03.42 | nooblark | if you won a bunch of money, and was giving it out to us |
| 01:03.46 | nooblark | I STILL DON'T GIVE A FUK |
| 01:03.57 | Taintedwisp | Quick data question |
| 01:03.58 | Otixa | hits Leruster with a fork |
| 01:04.00 | Taintedwisp | Daara you there? |
| 01:04.07 | Daara | mop |
| 01:04.14 | Leruster | hello there :) |
| 01:04.15 | Otixa | I need people good with UDK >:C |
| 01:04.17 | Otixa | Like... NOW! |
| 01:04.28 | Leruster | what's the problem? ;) |
| 01:04.28 | Taintedwisp | do you know how to make an ability be able to target the ground rather then another unit |
| 01:04.30 | Daara | maybe i will one day, but not today :P |
| 01:04.40 | Otixa | Leruster, ok, so... |
| 01:04.47 | Otixa | Actually, got skype? ;p |
| 01:04.55 | Leruster | well I do but I'm at work |
| 01:04.57 | Leruster | but wait! |
| 01:04.59 | Leruster | waaaait |
| 01:05.02 | nooblark | THERE'S MORE |
| 01:05.05 | Otixa | waaaaaits |
| 01:05.10 | Daara | http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h205/Daara/Cloth9Preview_zps304f67c3.jpg |
| 01:05.13 | Daara | 1 cloth set done |
| 01:05.16 | Taintedwisp | leruster is making some more awesome cinematic FX:P\ |
| 01:05.21 | Leruster | actually I don't know if I can help you |
| 01:05.23 | nooblark | daara no one gives a fuk |
| 01:05.25 | Daara | god the black really destroys the details lol |
| 01:05.36 | Leruster | so you might want to give me this info here ;) |
| 01:05.37 | nooblark | i want to see the map this shit you keep linking goes in |
| 01:05.38 | Daara | looks so much better when the team color shows |
| 01:05.48 | Leruster | hehe maybe not awesome cinematic but awesome nontheless :D |
| 01:05.51 | Otixa | Leruster, I'd like to have you on there regardless, but anyway... ;p |
| 01:06.02 | Leruster | hehe |
| 01:06.02 | Daara | tainted you just make it target a point |
| 01:06.05 | Otixa | Know CustomLighting nodes on materials rite? |
| 01:06.08 | Daara | instead of effect target |
| 01:06.09 | Leruster | ok skype name (wait for it): Leruster |
| 01:06.10 | Leruster | :D |
| 01:06.12 | Daara | do effect instant |
| 01:06.24 | Otixa | So CustomLightingDiffuse is in charge of shadow areas |
| 01:06.26 | Otixa | BUT |
| 01:06.39 | Otixa | THE MOTHERFUCKER ACTUALLY CHANGES THE COLOR VALUES WHEN USED |
| 01:06.59 | Taintedwisp | okay daara let me explain i put 5 teleports into a switch, but now its making me target units. |
| 01:07.07 | Leruster | ok Otixa |
| 01:07.11 | Leruster | I'm online |
| 01:07.17 | Leruster | so you can talk and I'll just type |
| 01:07.19 | Otixa | I wanna change shadow behaveour so that I just overlay a texture onto the shadow parts |
| 01:07.35 | Otixa | Well, I already told everything there is to say :P |
| 01:07.39 | Otixa | Any ideas? |
| 01:07.40 | Daara | somewhere you have an effect requiring a target |
| 01:07.40 | Leruster | ou |
| 01:07.50 | Leruster | don't you want to show me your sexy voice? :P |
| 01:08.04 | Otixa | in a call with gf atm, but next time ;D |
| 01:08.21 | Otixa | But yeah, any ideas? :/ |
| 01:08.27 | Leruster | pff whatever! :P |
| 01:08.47 | Otixa | I tried just multiplying the color until it matches, but it fucks up the rest of the shading |
| 01:08.49 | Otixa | so eh :| |
| 01:09.56 | Otixa | gets an example |
| 01:10.21 | Otixa | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/misc/herpa.jpg |
| 01:10.22 | Otixa | Thar |
| 01:10.40 | Otixa | It overlays the texture onto the shadow part, but also fucks up the color value |
| 01:10.44 | Otixa | And makes me very angry |
| 01:10.45 | Otixa | >;/ |
| 01:11.45 | Zolden | cmon, make it look pretty! |
| 01:12.12 | Leruster | hey Zolden |
| 01:12.12 | Otixa | I'm not gonna be making pretty for a while yet |
| 01:12.18 | Otixa | Need to get this shader to work properly |
| 01:12.19 | Taintedwisp | dammit what is up with this thing I have tried everything |
| 01:12.19 | Zolden | hey |
| 01:12.20 | Otixa | >;/ |
| 01:12.39 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: tried to punch it? |
| 01:12.39 | Leruster | wait wait |
| 01:12.41 | Otixa | prods Leruster with a fork |
| 01:12.46 | Leruster | so what do you really want to do? |
| 01:12.53 | Leruster | explain please :) |
| 01:12.59 | Otixa | Overlay a crosshatch pattern onto the shadow part |
| 01:13.05 | Otixa | Without it actually being shadowed |
| 01:13.23 | Otixa | So the shadow effect would come from the pattern, rather than a color/value change |
| 01:13.32 | Leruster | so you want swtich the shadow for the texture? |
| 01:13.38 | Otixa | ye |
| 01:13.48 | Otixa | ideas? :/ |
| 01:13.52 | Leruster | can't you contstruct a proper shader? |
| 01:14.05 | Leruster | I mean, I've seen the shading capabilites of UDK |
| 01:14.08 | Leruster | and man |
| 01:14.42 | Leruster | can you throw out shadows as a black/white mask? |
| 01:14.55 | Leruster | in the shader |
| 01:15.01 | Taintedwisp | Blizz-Deletarius I have run into a problem a lot, could we get some tooltips for Target, Targetsource, Source, Outer, target outer, etc? |
| 01:15.25 | Otixa | Leruster, nope :( |
| 01:15.36 | Otixa | Hold on, I'll pasta what I have atm |
| 01:15.40 | Leruster | I bet you can :) |
| 01:15.50 | Leruster | let me just see what nodes does the editor have |
| 01:15.54 | Leruster | how is it called? |
| 01:18.11 | Otixa | How's wut called? |
| 01:18.20 | Otixa | MLM_Custom if you mean the material |
| 01:18.51 | Triceron | Hey leruster, is there a newer version of the m3 exporter out with fixed normals or something? |
| 01:19.05 | Triceron | Zolden was talking about something earlier |
| 01:19.15 | Otixa | Need to collage it in shoop >> |
| 01:19.18 | Otixa | shader too huge |
| 01:19.27 | Leruster | Triceron, no. I don't have much time recently. Figured out that we just should wait for the Blizz's tools |
| 01:19.33 | Taintedwisp | dammit I need some help.. |
| 01:19.41 | Triceron | was there something wrong with the current normal exports? |
| 01:19.49 | Leruster | Otixa, no I mean the editor :) how it is called inside UDK |
| 01:20.00 | Leruster | well it turned out that it was wrong |
| 01:20.07 | Otixa | Uhh, the material editor :P |
| 01:20.08 | Triceron | oh |
| 01:20.11 | Zolden | Triceron: for now we can only use blender m3tools to fix normals |
| 01:20.56 | Triceron | wel, it should be a couple days now |
| 01:21.06 | Triceron | anyone know what version we need? |
| 01:21.07 | Zolden | yea... can't wait to try it |
| 01:21.10 | Triceron | of max |
| 01:21.14 | Zolden | 2011 |
| 01:21.57 | Triceron | looks like i'll need to update |
| 01:22.31 | Zolden | maybe it's not even necessary |
| 01:23.25 | Zolden | at least there is no difference between 10 and 11 for the m3 exporter |
| 01:25.11 | Leruster | Otixa |
| 01:25.21 | Leruster | you can produce a mask |
| 01:25.37 | Otixa | Leruster, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/misc/Crosshatch_nodes.jpg |
| 01:25.39 | Otixa | Enjoy @_@ |
| 01:26.35 | Leruster | look |
| 01:26.56 | Leruster | I'm sure you can dissect the final rendering into shadows, lightning, diffuse and such |
| 01:27.10 | Zolden | ok, time to ragequit |
| 01:27.17 | Otixa | Can't :/ |
| 01:27.22 | Otixa | Or at least, dunno how |
| 01:27.50 | Leruster | ok so I suspect that you can produce mask by comparing light normal to surface normal |
| 01:28.01 | Otixa | Yeh, doing that |
| 01:28.09 | Otixa | But light vector doesn't carry info on hard shadows |
| 01:28.19 | Leruster | I mean everything that's >90 deg is 0, 0deg is white and everything between is gray |
| 01:28.41 | Otixa | see link ;p |
| 01:28.44 | Leruster | exclude the object's shadowing ;) |
| 01:28.53 | Otixa | how? ;P |
| 01:28.55 | Leruster | SSL connection error :) |
| 01:29.03 | Otixa | :| |
| 01:29.09 | Leruster | make it not so that it will not cast/recieve shadows? |
| 01:29.28 | Otixa | But then I can't haz the shadow info at all |
| 01:29.38 | Leruster | you don't need the shadow |
| 01:29.45 | Leruster | ok |
| 01:29.48 | Otixa | What then? |
| 01:29.59 | Dogmai | ~seen blizz-deletarius |
| 01:30.02 | purl | blizz-deletarius is currently on #sc2mapster (2h 23m 41s). Has said a total of 16 messages. Is idling for 2h 12m 34s, last said: 'brb'. |
| 01:30.04 | Leruster | I see that you can produce the dot product from a vector |
| 01:30.21 | Leruster | so you probably can do something similar |
| 01:30.35 | Leruster | as far as mathematical complexity goes |
| 01:31.00 | Leruster | 404 |
| 01:31.15 | Otixa | yeh, dropbox is failing |
| 01:31.20 | Otixa | sec |
| 01:31.54 | Leruster | imgur |
| 01:32.02 | Otixa | http://imgur.com/t8TVLJw |
| 01:32.03 | Otixa | thar |
| 01:32.33 | Otixa | << |
| 01:32.34 | Otixa | >> |
| 01:35.31 | Leruster | shiiiiit |
| 01:36.03 | Otixa | :B |
| 01:36.04 | Bommes | he wanted to talk to you earlier dogmai |
| 01:36.11 | Bommes | did he query you? |
| 01:36.19 | Dogmai | yea i got a list of msgs waiting for me |
| 01:36.23 | Dogmai | but heres the thing |
| 01:36.37 | Repo | Updated wiki entry: Galaxy / Data / Validators - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/data/validators/ |
| 01:36.37 | Leruster | ~seen Otixa |
| 01:36.38 | purl | otixa is currently on #sc2mapster (11h 14m 5s). Has said a total of 311 messages. Is idling for 35s, last said: ':B'. |
| 01:36.42 | Leruster | ou :) |
| 01:36.42 | Dogmai | I can only stay up so late waiting for him, and wake up so early you know |
| 01:36.47 | Otixa | hai2u2 ;p |
| 01:36.50 | Dogmai | Cause the Irvine workday is in my sleeping hours |
| 01:36.55 | Bommes | yy i know |
| 01:37.06 | Bommes | was just asking if you knew |
| 01:38.06 | Otixa | So Leruster |
| 01:38.08 | Otixa | Ideas? :| |
| 01:38.38 | Leruster | I don't know the nodes actually |
| 01:38.40 | Leruster | heh :) |
| 01:38.58 | Otixa | hits Leruster with a wrench |
| 01:39.20 | Otixa | Also, get me a max2013 plugin already ;p |
| 01:39.44 | Leruster | hehe how did you do that again? that * Otixa hits Leruster |
| 01:39.57 | Otixa | /me |
| 01:40.53 | Leruster | defends with a crowbar |
| 01:44.03 | Taintedwisp | 3 heroes remaining |
| 01:45.31 | Dustin|Home | What all players does "Active" Players Include |
| 01:48.19 | Dustin|Home | https://pastee.org/tuvk2 |
| 01:48.56 | Dustin|Home | Does anything in there scream out "I will not work most of the time with added players" |
| 01:49.10 | Dustin|Home | Cause I cant find shit :( |
| 01:50.17 | Taintedwisp | im finishing all the heroes tomorrow... |
| 01:50.23 | Taintedwisp | Sick and fucking tired of this shit.. |
| 01:55.05 | Otixa | http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1767531#post1767531 |
| 01:55.07 | Otixa | herp |
| 01:59.26 | nooblark | dustin |
| 01:59.33 | nooblark | all players = 0-15 |
| 01:59.46 | nooblark | active players = anyone in the game (including computers) |
| 02:02.06 | Saeris | keep in mind that neither All Players nor Active Players will account for spectators, just FYI |
| 02:02.39 | Saeris | especially not in HotS now |
| 02:02.58 | nooblark | wait what? |
| 02:03.05 | nooblark | why would all not account to spectators? |
| 02:03.09 | nooblark | they are still 0-15. |
| 02:05.19 | A1win | they can be above 15 too |
| 02:05.40 | nooblark | well yag, because it's lobby order # |
| 02:05.45 | A1win | if all slots are filled |
| 02:05.53 | Dustin|Home | So |
| 02:05.56 | nooblark | but for the sake of not confusing him wiht info he does not need.. i ommited that |
| 02:05.58 | Dustin|Home | fuck, I wonder |
| 02:06.33 | Dustin|Home | If It's trying to save a player and dieing |
| 02:06.35 | Dustin|Home | or what... |
| 02:06.53 | nooblark | you're just trying to save a player's bank, right? |
| 02:07.06 | Dustin|Home | https://pastee.org/664y7 |
| 02:07.10 | Dustin|Home | theres the init |
| 02:07.16 | Dustin|Home | Nooblark |
| 02:07.23 | nooblark | i saw that already |
| 02:07.34 | Dustin|Home | It works mosst times but when more players join it stops working |
| 02:07.46 | Dustin|Home | no |
| 02:07.47 | Dustin|Home | thats the init |
| 02:07.50 | nooblark | what do you mean when more players join |
| 02:07.53 | Dustin|Home | the other was a periodic save |
| 02:08.03 | Dustin|Home | If there's more players in the game |
| 02:08.09 | nooblark | lobby you mean? |
| 02:08.16 | Dustin|Home | yes |
| 02:08.18 | nooblark | lol |
| 02:08.21 | nooblark | i found the issue already |
| 02:08.26 | Dustin|Home | wait wat |
| 02:08.27 | nooblark | lin e8-12 |
| 02:08.31 | nooblark | line 8-12 |
| 02:08.47 | nooblark | player # != slot # |
| 02:08.59 | nooblark | player # == order players join lobby |
| 02:09.10 | nooblark | host is player 1, always |
| 02:09.14 | nooblark | even if in slot 5 |
| 02:09.42 | nooblark | basically i'm telling you, if 4 people join after you make it, and then leave, the next 4 people's banks will not save |
| 02:09.58 | nooblark | because they are considered players 6-9, not 2-5 |
| 02:09.58 | Dustin|Home | hmmm |
| 02:10.48 | nooblark | does it give an error if you loop through players instead of how you have it? |
| 02:11.15 | Dustin|Home | I dont get an error now, it jsut doesnt work |
| 02:11.24 | nooblark | if any players join? |
| 02:11.26 | nooblark | or |
| 02:11.31 | nooblark | if a few join/leave? |
| 02:12.13 | Dustin|Home | No |
| 02:12.33 | Dustin|Home | like, if theres 1 or 2 people that play my map, their banks save fine |
| 02:12.46 | Dustin|Home | but if 4 or more play it, the banks dont work for anyone |
| 02:12.51 | nooblark | i know nothing about banks, i've never used them. there may be some other error, but i see that as a problem right from the start |
| 02:14.06 | nooblark | that appears to be the only error i can see |
| 02:14.19 | nooblark | well |
| 02:14.19 | nooblark | also |
| 02:14.21 | nooblark | found another |
| 02:14.33 | Dustin|Home | Ya ive been moving the resto f my code to use groups |
| 02:14.44 | nooblark | wait maybe not |
| 02:14.47 | nooblark | let me reread |
| 02:15.07 | nooblark | nevermind |
| 02:15.10 | nooblark | that's fine. |
| 02:15.31 | nooblark | change bank preload to a loop |
| 02:15.46 | nooblark | for all players in playergroup |
| 02:15.54 | nooblark | and use the lobby slot as the playergroup |
| 02:15.55 | Dustin|Home | ya doing that |
| 02:16.10 | Taintedwisp | Hey How would I make an ice storm? |
| 02:16.14 | Taintedwisp | ability |
| 02:16.18 | nooblark | take ice and cold air |
| 02:16.19 | Taintedwisp | What effects would I need |
| 02:16.21 | nooblark | mix |
| 02:16.22 | nooblark | throw |
| 02:16.36 | nooblark | need wind effects, both visual, and sound. |
| 02:16.37 | Dustin|Home | some archon's shrunk to look like snow flakes |
| 02:18.05 | Triceron | you could use minerals |
| 02:18.12 | Triceron | drop minerals like ice shards :D |
| 02:18.44 | Triceron | or pylon crystals |
| 02:19.07 | Otixa | hits Triceron |
| 02:19.18 | Triceron | dances |
| 02:19.38 | Otixa | UDK is pissing me off >:[ |
| 02:19.44 | Otixa | Triceron, Y U no good with UDK? |
| 02:19.55 | Triceron | I'm great with UDK |
| 02:20.04 | Otixa | Solve my issue then ;p |
| 02:20.14 | Triceron | use Unity |
| 02:20.17 | Otixa | >;/ |
| 02:20.20 | Triceron | haha |
| 02:20.46 | Otixa | revokes Triceron's redbull fridge access |
| 02:20.53 | Daara | http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h205/Daara/Cloth10Preview_zps143d7148.jpg |
| 02:20.53 | Triceron | eww, redbull |
| 02:20.55 | Daara | bewbs |
| 02:21.06 | Triceron | mmm cleavage |
| 02:21.37 | Otixa | roars |
| 02:21.39 | Daara | i thought about doing another one that had the shoulders showing |
| 02:21.53 | Daara | then i was like...well the male would like ridiculous wearing it |
| 02:22.07 | Daara | or fabulous |
| 02:22.09 | Daara | however you swing |
| 02:22.30 | Otixa | Daara: The Freddie Mercury of mapster |
| 02:22.49 | Daara | we only say good things about freddie here |
| 02:23.35 | Otixa | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5a_v0MP_Fk |
| 02:23.44 | Daara | infact i'm going to go play me some bohemian rapshody right now |
| 02:25.39 | Daara | lol |
| 02:25.42 | Daara | this one is really good |
| 02:27.19 | Otixa | Butthole roulette |
| 02:27.20 | Otixa | :B |
| 02:28.04 | Daara | haha |
| 02:30.07 | Otixa | fuck udk |
| 02:30.10 | Otixa | fuck everything |
| 02:30.13 | Otixa | >:[[[[[[[[[[[[[[ |
| 02:30.41 | JademusSreg | <3 |
| 02:30.57 | Otixa | JademusSreg! |
| 02:31.04 | Otixa | You's goods at UDKs, right? ;DD |
| 02:39.36 | Daara | hmm |
| 02:39.40 | Daara | this is a good headline for a story |
| 02:39.43 | Daara | Raptors get Rudy Gay in 3-way trade |
| 02:40.47 | Triceron | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/Triceron/Skarcher_03_zpse430387f.jpg Worked on the metal a bit |
| 02:40.53 | Triceron | haven't put in fur planes yet |
| 02:41.25 | Otixa | Triceron, Y U no AO? |
| 02:41.31 | Otixa | Also, define metal edges a bit better |
| 02:41.37 | Otixa | Scratch the fuckers up |
| 02:41.54 | Daara | yea have to agree there |
| 02:41.54 | Otixa | And don't just overlay stock textures willy nilly ;p |
| 02:42.01 | Daara | he's dead his armor isn't going to be in good shape |
| 02:42.07 | Triceron | hey now, it's a process! |
| 02:42.20 | Otixa | BACK TO WORK |
| 02:42.21 | Daara | you shits good |
| 02:42.23 | Otixa | cracks whip |
| 02:42.29 | Triceron | no! Food time |
| 02:42.32 | Leruster | nice model Triceron :) |
| 02:42.42 | Triceron | Thanks leruster :D |
| 02:42.45 | Otixa | srsly tho |
| 02:42.46 | Otixa | AO |
| 02:42.52 | Otixa | It needs it |
| 02:43.29 | Otixa | Triceron, you using only shoop for textures? |
| 02:43.33 | Triceron | yup |
| 02:43.41 | Otixa | Try 3D Coat |
| 02:43.43 | Otixa | Shit's good ;D |
| 02:43.45 | Triceron | I can't AO the fur, I'll have to fake it |
| 02:43.55 | Triceron | is tha the 3D painting realtime program? |
| 02:43.57 | Otixa | eah, but AO around the metal bits |
| 02:44.00 | Otixa | ye |
| 02:44.02 | Triceron | I really wanna check that shit out |
| 02:44.08 | Otixa | I use it for all my handpainted shit |
| 02:44.11 | Triceron | it's got AO overlays already |
| 02:44.14 | Otixa | Then just tweak in shoop |
| 02:44.28 | Otixa | Metal bits on gloves? |
| 02:44.29 | Triceron | AO + Pin light |
| 02:44.38 | Triceron | the gloves came out real dark |
| 02:44.39 | Triceron | for the AO |
| 02:44.41 | Triceron | I have to fake that |
| 02:44.47 | Otixa | ye, just tweak it |
| 02:44.50 | Otixa | Also |
| 02:44.56 | Otixa | As far as realism goes |
| 02:45.04 | Leruster | nice http://imgur.com/gallery/ny4uA |
| 02:45.15 | Otixa | I'd imagine the metal pins on the gloves would actually go into the leather/cloth |
| 02:45.22 | Otixa | So there'd be some folds going there |
| 02:45.47 | Otixa | Leruster, leet hax :D |
| 02:45.51 | Triceron | very true, I'll have to add some highlights to the gloves to pop em out |
| 02:45.55 | Leruster | hehe sure |
| 02:46.34 | Otixa | Also |
| 02:46.36 | Otixa | Triceron |
| 02:46.41 | Otixa | The metal bit on the glove |
| 02:46.45 | Triceron | amazing what you can do with a little space |
| 02:46.47 | Otixa | plz2bend it a little bit |
| 02:47.05 | Triceron | bend it? |
| 02:47.08 | Otixa | Just divide it once and pop the middle vert out a bit |
| 02:47.18 | Triceron | they're textures |
| 02:47.21 | Triceron | it's flat |
| 02:47.23 | Otixa | ye, ino |
| 02:47.24 | Triceron | not modeled |
| 02:47.31 | Triceron | oh you mean add model bits |
| 02:47.39 | Otixa | ye, just divide the plane into 4 |
| 02:47.40 | Leruster | Triceron, did you think about adding a bit of semitransparent fur extension on the edges of the shoulderpads? |
| 02:47.45 | Otixa | and stick the middle vert out a bit |
| 02:47.51 | Triceron | I might just model em out of partial cubes and intersect the geo |
| 02:48.02 | Triceron | yeah, I'll be using transparencies for the shoulders |
| 02:48.12 | Otixa | Also |
| 02:48.20 | Otixa | Triceron, still no leather stitches on the skirt >:[ |
| 02:48.29 | Leruster | :) |
| 02:48.31 | Triceron | working on metal! |
| 02:48.38 | Triceron | stitches =/= metal |
| 02:48.42 | Otixa | yeye ;p |
| 02:48.47 | Otixa | As for the metal |
| 02:48.53 | Otixa | Don't just use overlays |
| 02:48.59 | Otixa | Think of where scratches occur |
| 02:49.05 | Otixa | The specular should define metal |
| 02:49.06 | Otixa | Not diffuse |
| 02:49.38 | Triceron | the spec in SC2 isn't detailed enoough, you really have to fake some of it |
| 02:49.51 | Otixa | Eh, fair enuff :/ |
| 02:49.58 | Triceron | it's a huge difference when light is off areas that need it |
| 02:50.14 | Otixa | Well, work on the helmet more |
| 02:50.21 | Otixa | Also, add some rust |
| 02:50.47 | Triceron | yeah, I'll prolly add some rust colors to harmonize with the fur a bit more |
| 02:51.32 | Otixa | If you have the AO for the metal bits |
| 02:51.37 | Otixa | What you can do is just mask that out |
| 02:51.44 | Otixa | And colorize the AO to a brown |
| 02:51.46 | Otixa | And overlay |
| 02:51.51 | Otixa | Should produce a neat effect |
| 02:52.12 | Triceron | yeah, I have some splatter brushes I'm gonna use for the masking too |
| 02:52.17 | Triceron | anyways, food time! |
| 02:52.17 | Otixa | neat |
| 02:52.24 | Otixa | same |
| 02:52.24 | Otixa | brb |
| 02:52.43 | Leruster | I wish you fine night gentlemans :) |
| 02:53.09 | Daara | is there a list of all the animation names the editor will recognize on sc2mapster |
| 02:53.13 | Daara | i don't feel like opening the editor lol |
| 02:53.27 | Daara | nvm found it |
| 02:54.44 | Daara | gotta make it so parries can work with each weapon type |
| 02:54.59 | Daara | don't want my guys trying to parry like the have a 2h when they have a 1h on |
| 02:55.02 | Otixa | mmm.... parma ham |
| 02:55.18 | Otixa | dafuq you doing anyway? |
| 02:55.55 | Otixa | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeLrlmV9A-s&list=PLQ-7WiWmOuK-55mfcd_tdcvy-57VMCkOW |
| 02:58.17 | Daara | I'm making it so I only need 3 or 4 models while having 100's of variations I can do. |
| 02:58.33 | Daara | They'll all switch animations based on what weapons their are using. |
| 02:58.41 | Otixa | Ye, but what for? ;p |
| 02:58.58 | Daara | For my badass map :D |
| 02:59.23 | Otixa | GDD plz |
| 03:00.17 | Daara | GDD? |
| 03:00.46 | Otixa | game design doc |
| 03:01.04 | Daara | all in my head lol |
| 03:01.10 | Otixa | :| |
| 03:01.13 | Daara | actually |
| 03:01.14 | Daara | not all |
| 03:01.21 | Daara | i have a lot of stuff on note paper infront of me |
| 03:05.04 | Otixa | eats the paper |
| 03:05.40 | Otixa | Dissertation progress interview in the morning ;/ |
| 03:05.44 | Otixa | Progress is minimal |
| 03:05.48 | Otixa | Wut do? << |
| 03:06.35 | Daara | bullshit |
| 03:06.40 | Daara | that's what i do |
| 03:07.03 | Otixa | nnrgh |
| 03:07.20 | Daara | fuck it i'm not doing group apply for parries, just goign to do animation play |
| 03:08.02 | Daara | actually fuck...then i have to determine which weapon they are using another way ...:c |
| 03:08.36 | Otixa | We should all just switch over to UDK tbh ;p |
| 03:09.10 | Daara | i was suprised how similar a lot of programs are to the blizzard editors when i first got into design |
| 03:09.18 | Daara | it was like i already knew what to do |
| 03:09.47 | Otixa | UDK gets a bit funky if you wanna do more advanced shit |
| 03:09.58 | Otixa | But Kismet is pretty similar to Blizz bullshit code |
| 03:10.23 | Daara | i really wish they'd add multiple footprint levels into sc2 |
| 03:16.20 | Daara | more cliff levels too |
| 03:18.15 | Taintedwisp | THERE |
| 03:23.25 | Triceron | do you use a template at all for game design docs? |
| 03:23.46 | Daara | I suppose if I were being more professional about it I would. |
| 03:33.57 | Taintedwisp | only Fenix and lash still need to be completed |
| 03:34.29 | Repo | Updated wiki entry: Galaxy / Data / Validators - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/data/validators/ |
| 03:37.21 | Otixa | Triceron, not really |
| 03:37.28 | Otixa | Just go with what the project requires |
| 03:37.45 | Otixa | I usually have like basic categories in it tho |
| 03:38.18 | Otixa | Mechanics, Aesthetics, Dynamics, Interface, Networking(if needed), Story, Screens, etc |
| 03:38.30 | Otixa | Just some off the top of my head ;p |
| 03:38.44 | Triceron | needs moar boobs |
| 03:38.54 | Otixa | shoops some boobs onto Triceron |
| 03:39.30 | Triceron | never leaves the house |
| 03:39.36 | Otixa | ;D |
| 03:39.50 | Otixa | Go fix yer metal |
| 03:39.55 | Otixa | shoves Triceron into shoop |
| 03:40.25 | Triceron | nope, it's done |
| 03:40.30 | Triceron | shipping it as is |
| 03:40.38 | Otixa | >:C |
| 03:41.30 | Repo | Updated wiki entry: Galaxy / Data / Validators - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/data/validators/ |
| 03:58.35 | JademusSreg | Backish. |
| 04:03.15 | Otixa | slaps JademusSreg around a bit with a large trout |
| 04:03.43 | Otixa | Just realized what was bothering me in the HOTS cinematic |
| 04:04.03 | Otixa | They don't really have very good values |
| 04:04.05 | Otixa | @_@ |
| 04:05.24 | JademusSreg | I thought it was the bad positioning and micro. |
| 04:05.30 | Otixa | xD |
| 04:07.24 | Otixa | no but it like looks washed out |
| 04:07.25 | Otixa | ;/ |
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| 04:33.58 | Taintedwisp | about 3 more days like today and I can put my project out in beta :D |
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| 04:35.14 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 04:37.38 | Taintedwisp | I am going to have my map ready for HoTS!!! :P |
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| 05:01.22 | Daara | if this works i'll be able to show and hide tabards! |
| 05:01.24 | Daara | come on baby! |
| 05:18.05 | Daara | whatever not the best way but i found a solution :D |
| 05:19.22 | Taintedwisp | Hey Nooblark you remember the green immortal from my map Fenix? I changed his voices from that other set my stupid data editor put it as |
| 05:19.33 | Taintedwisp | Now it has the Warcraft 2 Deathknight voices |
| 05:19.58 | Taintedwisp | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93971126/WarCraft%202%20Sounds/DeathKnt/Dkready.ogg |
| 05:20.02 | Taintedwisp | :D |
| 05:20.06 | Taintedwisp | just one of the sounds |
| 05:25.04 | Taintedwisp | what you think noob? |
| 05:25.23 | Daara | he lies! |
| 05:25.27 | Daara | he's dead!... |
| 05:25.40 | Taintedwisp | :P lets be honest, is Fenix EVER dead? |
| 05:25.51 | Daara | fenix was a badass |
| 05:25.54 | Taintedwisp | i thought it was appropriate for him :P |
| 05:25.56 | Daara | he shouldn't be dead! |
| 05:26.00 | Taintedwisp | In my map hes a hero :P |
| 05:26.04 | Taintedwisp | a big green immortal |
| 05:26.14 | Daara | besides |
| 05:26.17 | Taintedwisp | I was going to make him that pale teal, but it didnt look good |
| 05:26.19 | Daara | i don't recall them actualy showing him die |
| 05:26.29 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 05:26.30 | Daara | didn't he just stay behind the portal and close it? |
| 05:26.35 | Taintedwisp | well hes reborn now haha |
| 05:26.37 | Taintedwisp | \no |
| 05:26.39 | Daara | so jimmy could escape? |
| 05:26.40 | Taintedwisp | kerrigan killed him i thought |
| 05:26.52 | Daara | i'm trying to remember the mission |
| 05:27.03 | Daara | i coulda sworn he just stays behind while jim goes through |
| 05:27.19 | Taintedwisp | http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Terrain050.jpg See the green immortal? |
| 05:27.23 | Taintedwisp | thats him in my map :P |
| 05:27.27 | Taintedwisp | thats a VERY old picture |
| 05:29.05 | Taintedwisp | Fenix, who was not entirely surprised,[26] prepared to face her forces on the battlefield.[32] Fenix fell to the Swarm.[31] Upon his death, Kerrigan mocked Raynor, saying that Fenix died the way all protoss hope to do: in combat.[33] Enraged, Raynor swore he would kill Kerrigan for this betrayal. |
| 05:29.42 | Daara | yea i remember now |
| 05:29.53 | Daara | it was in a separate mission i think |
| 05:30.05 | Taintedwisp | ahhhj |
| 05:30.17 | Daara | been like 12 years since i played it lol |
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| 05:44.41 | ThunderLord | Hey does anyone know a way i can make a link, that links to one page now, but allows me to go back later and change where it links to? |
| 05:46.30 | ThunderLord | anyone? |
| 05:49.08 | Taintedwisp | what? |
| 05:49.21 | ThunderLord | i need to create a link to |
| 05:49.21 | Taintedwisp | lin k on what, a website? |
| 05:49.24 | ThunderLord | for example |
| 05:49.35 | ThunderLord | a link to www.google.com |
| 05:49.46 | ThunderLord | but next week i need to make that same link go to www.facebook.com |
| 05:50.05 | Taintedwisp | depends on what type of formatting code your using, is this on mapster? |
| 05:50.13 | ThunderLord | so people who paste that link in their addressbar, will be redirected to a diff cite |
| 05:50.14 | ThunderLord | no |
| 05:50.26 | ThunderLord | i need a copy/paste string of text |
| 05:50.36 | Taintedwisp | if it allows you have a Title for the link and the actual link is hidden then yes, otherwise there may be a site somewhere that will convert it |
| 05:50.53 | ThunderLord | i dont need to hide anylink |
| 05:50.58 | ThunderLord | its not being imbedded |
| 05:51.14 | ThunderLord | i just need a string of text that will redirect me to one page today, and a diff page tomorrow |
| 05:51.26 | Taintedwisp | oh then, I dont think so |
| 05:51.59 | Taintedwisp | i mean if you had your own site you could make a redirect page with HTML |
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| 05:52.18 | Taintedwisp | then just link to your redirect page |
| 05:53.44 | ThunderLord | isnt there a site that can do that for me? |
| 05:54.22 | Taintedwisp | maybe. but not one that i have ever used |
| 05:55.13 | Taintedwisp | you could find a free website creator that allows for HTML pages, and then do it that way. |
| 05:55.25 | Taintedwisp | http://www.thepcmanwebsite.com/redirect_page_creator.shtml Gives you the code |
| 05:55.54 | Taintedwisp | but I know nothing of that site I just linked |
| 05:56.03 | Taintedwisp | it was just the first result |
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| 06:06.31 | Taintedwisp | WABABALOOBABAWABAMBOO!! |
| 06:25.53 | nooblark | so many newbs on sc right now |
| 06:25.59 | nooblark | fucking all in every game |
| 06:27.15 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 06:27.23 | Taintedwisp | nooblark you read my above mesasge? |
| 06:27.30 | Taintedwisp | the voice thing |
| 06:27.44 | nooblark | no? |
| 06:28.03 | iMisu | Misu texted me JUST to say how much she hates Starcraft. |
| 06:28.04 | Taintedwisp | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93971126/WarCraft%202%20Sounds/DeathKnt/Dkready.ogg |
| 06:28.08 | Taintedwisp | for Fenix |
| 06:28.12 | nooblark | taz |
| 06:28.16 | nooblark | i just lost like |
| 06:28.16 | iMisu | Yo |
| 06:28.18 | Taintedwisp | imisu is a man in a mast. |
| 06:28.20 | nooblark | 2 or 3 games |
| 06:28.23 | Taintedwisp | mask* |
| 06:28.23 | nooblark | to 1 base all ins. |
| 06:28.24 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 06:28.28 | iMisu | Ouch |
| 06:28.36 | nooblark | but instead of being garbage gold platnium |
| 06:28.37 | iMisu | Sounds like we need to spank 2.0 |
| 06:28.38 | nooblark | they are masters |
| 06:28.41 | nooblark | so |
| 06:28.46 | nooblark | yah |
| 06:28.49 | nooblark | dumb shit like |
| 06:28.55 | iMisu | Taintedwisp |
| 06:28.59 | nooblark | ob/immo/stalker with all in ling |
| 06:28.59 | Taintedwisp | dude, just do the strongest strat possible |
| 06:29.09 | Taintedwisp | WORKER RUSH!!! |
| 06:29.30 | iMisu | Worker rush isnt even bronze. That shits wood league. |
| 06:29.38 | Taintedwisp | Thats the real shit |
| 06:29.43 | nooblark | why did she get called into work? |
| 06:29.55 | Taintedwisp | SEE TOLD YOU IT WAS A MAN IN A MASKQ!!!! |
| 06:29.59 | Taintedwisp | Nooblark didnt believe me... |
| 06:30.01 | nooblark | .... |
| 06:30.02 | Taintedwisp | -_- |
| 06:30.03 | Taz____ | ? |
| 06:30.04 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 06:30.08 | nooblark | that's her bf dumbass |
| 06:30.11 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 06:30.12 | Taz____ | I dont know what she got called into work for. |
| 06:30.23 | Taz____ | All I know is she picked up the phone as was like. |
| 06:30.26 | nooblark | sorta late to get called in. |
| 06:30.30 | Taz____ | OH NO! I will be there soon as possible. |
| 06:30.38 | nooblark | people be dying |
| 06:30.40 | nooblark | fuckers. |
| 06:30.47 | Taz____ | Shes actually not supposed to disclose that information. |
| 06:31.06 | nooblark | what, if people are dying? |
| 06:31.22 | Taz|| | Dying ? I dont know what you mean by that. |
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| 06:31.32 | nooblark | she's not supposed to disclose what |
| 06:31.42 | Taz|| | Yeah I dont think so. |
| 06:31.46 | nooblark | ... |
| 06:31.46 | ThunderLord | Hey could i get a few people to test and make sure this works on other computers besides mine? |
| 06:31.47 | ThunderLord | http://activeed.rice.edu/comp160/#user8-y1no57xzXc-6.py |
| 06:31.53 | nooblark | i'm asking what she's not supposed to disclose |
| 06:32.08 | Taz|| | I dont think that she can disclose anything. |
| 06:32.13 | Taintedwisp | all i see is a wall of code thunderlord |
| 06:32.19 | ThunderLord | ... |
| 06:32.26 | ThunderLord | well, if i tell you waht it is |
| 06:32.32 | ThunderLord | its suppost to be intiutive |
| 06:32.32 | nooblark | mmmm depends on what it is |
| 06:32.41 | nooblark | patient names = no |
| 06:32.42 | ThunderLord | that is the link to a game i programmed last semester... |
| 06:32.49 | iMisu | Has to do with patient privacy or some shit like that. |
| 06:32.53 | ThunderLord | and at the top there is a play button |
| 06:33.08 | iMisu | I believe if she says anything regardless. She can be held liable for shit. |
| 06:33.12 | iMisu | Say for example |
| 06:33.23 | iMisu | Some one gets into a wreck on the highway. |
| 06:33.26 | nooblark | i don't think you're allowed to disclose anything specific to any one person |
| 06:33.40 | iMisu | And you say SOME ONE blah blah blah, and they know that person personally |
| 06:33.46 | iMisu | People dont know weather or not. |
| 06:33.58 | iMisu | The name is the important part I guess |
| 06:34.05 | iMisu | I think its just safe enough just not to say anything. |
| 06:34.06 | nooblark | name or specifficity |
| 06:34.12 | nooblark | so if someone gets in car accident |
| 06:34.18 | nooblark | it makes the news |
| 06:34.23 | iMisu | Here in Cali shit is fucked bro. |
| 06:34.26 | nooblark | and you say, that guy fromt he accident |
| 06:34.32 | nooblark | it's just as bad as a name |
| 06:34.35 | iMisu | Yeah |
| 06:34.45 | iMisu | I fired a store manager about 2 weeks ago. |
| 06:34.54 | ThunderLord | How about this one... |
| 06:34.55 | ThunderLord | http://activeed.rice.edu/comp160/#user8-y1no57xzXc-7.py |
| 06:34.59 | nooblark | but just saying someone in an accident (not specifying a date/time) |
| 06:35.01 | iMisu | And I got a call because I told one of the other managers that was supposed to take over that store |
| 06:35.08 | iMisu | Because I fired him and the other manager knew |
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| 06:35.13 | iMisu | The other manager said something to his friend |
| 06:35.24 | iMisu | They came to me and said that I was disclosing information to outside sources. |
| 06:35.31 | nooblark | lol. |
| 06:35.37 | nooblark | well |
| 06:35.39 | iMisu | I was like. Um no sir. |
| 06:35.44 | nooblark | saying he got fired |
| 06:35.44 | iMisu | This is rediculous. |
| 06:35.49 | nooblark | yeah, wrong. |
| 06:35.56 | nooblark | saying he's no longer with the company, okay. |
| 06:36.06 | iMisu | Well he came after me. He was fired because he wasnt pulling his weight in the company for almost a year straight |
| 06:36.16 | iMisu | He didnt like me much anyway. So he tried to come after me lol. |
| 06:36.33 | nooblark | i don't like my district people either, don't worry |
| 06:36.44 | iMisu | Which company do you work for? |
| 06:36.56 | nooblark | i'm not disclosing that :P |
| 06:37.10 | iMisu | :P Smart man. |
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| 06:37.33 | iMisu | Damn dude, I am so bored. |
| 06:37.39 | nooblark | sometimes people in those positions forget, or never learned, what it's like to be in another spot |
| 06:38.01 | iMisu | He was brought in as a manager, Never worked for the position. |
| 06:38.05 | nooblark | i have a few question actually.. |
| 06:38.15 | nooblark | 1. why the hell does she use everything of yours? |
| 06:38.16 | iMisu | Before I became the district manager. |
| 06:38.23 | nooblark | computer, sc acc |
| 06:38.24 | nooblark | lol. |
| 06:38.33 | nooblark | you need to put her in her place. |
| 06:38.39 | iMisu | She's ight. |
| 06:38.49 | nooblark | then you have to find other things to do. |
| 06:38.55 | iMisu | My laptop is a work only laptop. Its issued by my company. |
| 06:39.01 | nooblark | you clearly like SC, and you both can't play at same time. |
| 06:39.20 | nooblark | time to build another computer |
| 06:39.22 | iMisu | SCII Is alright. Im not a really custo player. |
| 06:39.31 | nooblark | you can play ladder |
| 06:39.42 | iMisu | Yeah but it gets boring for me. |
| 06:39.49 | iMisu | Thats why I rarely play it. |
| 06:39.52 | nooblark | i see |
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| 06:39.59 | nooblark | what do you prefer to do in free time? |
| 06:40.12 | iMisu | Electronic engineer |
| 06:40.19 | iMisu | So just make random things. |
| 06:40.29 | nooblark | i love doing that, but i do it in not free time, free time. |
| 06:41.27 | iMisu | I made a little gadget to discharge ~15k volts with .08amps on contact with a ground. |
| 06:41.36 | nooblark | yah, she told me |
| 06:41.38 | iMisu | Hilarious as hell |
| 06:41.39 | nooblark | you shocked her |
| 06:41.40 | nooblark | lol |
| 06:41.55 | nooblark | how did you get 15k volts? |
| 06:41.55 | iMisu | She touched me on the arm and a lightning bolt arc from my arm to her finger about 2 inch away. |
| 06:42.10 | iMisu | Couple step ups and 3 caps |
| 06:42.35 | nooblark | not quite sure what that is, but okay! |
| 06:42.36 | nooblark | lol |
| 06:42.44 | iMisu | rusn on 3x "AA" |
| 06:42.53 | iMisu | Step up |
| 06:42.59 | iMisu | Is a small transformer |
| 06:43.12 | nooblark | okay |
| 06:43.18 | iMisu | Used to increase voltage to excessive ammounts for a few seconds. |
| 06:43.31 | nooblark | and caps? |
| 06:43.36 | iMisu | Used so that the battery doesnt drain |
| 06:43.59 | iMisu | Caps = Capacitors |
| 06:44.01 | nooblark | oh |
| 06:44.02 | nooblark | lol |
| 06:44.11 | nooblark | not used to short hand of it |
| 06:44.20 | iMisu | Kick the voltage up to high amounts, Store it in caps, and discharge with ground |
| 06:44.21 | iMisu | Hilarious |
| 06:45.05 | iMisu | I got a pic if you wana see it |
| 06:45.07 | nooblark | sure |
| 06:45.54 | iMisu | Grabbing usb cable |
| 06:45.58 | nooblark | mmk |
| 06:47.00 | nooblark | how strong of a voltage increase can you get with a home made transformer |
| 06:47.12 | nooblark | a basic one |
| 06:47.22 | nooblark | like steel ring wrapped in copper |
| 06:47.24 | iMisu | Really depends on the materials you use and how long you wana sit there and bind wire |
| 06:47.35 | iMisu | I have some coils I made with 5k wraps |
| 06:47.46 | iMisu | About 400 volts with my best one from 1.5v |
| 06:47.52 | nooblark | moce |
| 06:47.54 | nooblark | nice* |
| 06:48.35 | iMisu | http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/3803/img20130130153544.jpg |
| 06:48.42 | iMisu | I have a complete image. |
| 06:48.46 | iMisu | Its nicely in a box. |
| 06:48.47 | nooblark | you just wrap it, then have + and - wires on opposite ends, right? |
| 06:48.52 | iMisu | Nah |
| 06:49.01 | iMisu | You have to be really careful wrapping on a ferrite core. |
| 06:49.33 | iMisu | You need something like |
| 06:49.38 | iMisu | Laminate stacks |
| 06:49.42 | iMisu | Or a ferrite core |
| 06:49.54 | iMisu | The weight of the core directly effects the uf |
| 06:50.17 | iMisu | On an average 50 wraps is 1-13/4 increase |
| 06:50.30 | nooblark | i generally use some random steel i find |
| 06:51.13 | iMisu | Well to get low amps with high voltage you have to use a wire with a low low low impedance |
| 06:51.23 | iMisu | Say maybe network wire |
| 06:51.27 | iMisu | Cat5E solid |
| 06:51.33 | iMisu | Stranded doesnt work. |
| 06:51.44 | iMisu | 1,000 Feet of that stuff is usually about 1k ohms |
| 06:51.48 | nooblark | i just use copper strands from 14 ga |
| 06:52.05 | nooblark | i don't make absurd ones like you |
| 06:52.06 | iMisu | Oh , I use stuff around 30 gague mostly |
| 06:52.14 | nooblark | damm lol |
| 06:52.21 | nooblark | so thinner the copper, the better? |
| 06:52.37 | iMisu | Allows you to carry voltage higher with out higher amps |
| 06:52.40 | iMisu | Amps hurt. |
| 06:52.43 | nooblark | yah |
| 06:53.01 | nooblark | any specific pattern of wrapping better? |
| 06:53.06 | iMisu | yes |
| 06:53.09 | iMisu | like this |
| 06:53.13 | iMisu | |||||||||||| |
| 06:53.16 | iMisu | this is a perfect row |
| 06:53.19 | iMisu | Make sure that your wraps |
| 06:53.22 | iMisu | Go like this |
| 06:53.26 | iMisu | |||||||| |
| 06:53.29 | iMisu | x|||||||| |
| 06:53.33 | iMisu | xx||||||| |
| 06:53.39 | nooblark | yah |
| 06:53.44 | nooblark | so they touch the one next to them. |
| 06:53.50 | iMisu | The better, the more clean also better field collapse |
| 06:54.09 | iMisu | The harder you can make the field collapse the more punch you will get. |
| 06:54.20 | nooblark | mmm i'm going to have some fun tomorrow |
| 06:54.24 | nooblark | take a break from lockpicking. |
| 06:54.41 | iMisu | Take a older wall adapter, and pop it open with a screwdriver and hammer. |
| 06:54.53 | iMisu | Examine it, and make your own from the parts |
| 06:55.03 | nooblark | coil you mean? |
| 06:55.05 | iMisu | Be very careful that you dont peel the vinal off the windings |
| 06:55.12 | iMisu | Yeah. |
| 06:55.23 | iMisu | If you peel the vinal off the coil and plug it into the ac |
| 06:55.28 | iMisu | You will have a light show. |
| 06:55.35 | nooblark | i know how make straight ones |
| 06:55.38 | nooblark | not curved |
| 06:55.59 | nooblark | is it like a spring, just wrapped? |
| 06:56.10 | nooblark | or a bunch of individual rings on top of eachother |
| 06:56.30 | iMisu | Its going to be 1 solid spring like coil |
| 06:56.38 | nooblark | mmk |
| 06:56.49 | iMisu | If you peel the glue off, it will unwind like a broken measure tape |
| 06:56.55 | iMisu | Coulde slice you if your not careful |
| 06:57.29 | nooblark | i mean the core itself |
| 06:57.41 | iMisu | The ferrite core? |
| 06:57.42 | nooblark | like a nail, is a simple core. |
| 06:57.44 | nooblark | yeah |
| 06:57.54 | iMisu | Usually just hard hard plastic covered with ferrite |
| 06:58.00 | iMisu | The old ones anyway |
| 06:58.09 | iMisu | Now they use graphite and iron |
| 06:58.11 | nooblark | round ones work better than straight ones, right? |
| 06:58.19 | nooblark | or are they just round for the sake of space? |
| 06:58.21 | iMisu | Depends on the application |
| 06:58.42 | iMisu | Round will generate soft +15-15 sine wave |
| 06:58.51 | iMisu | Square usually gives sawtooth at high frequency |
| 06:59.13 | nooblark | i'm saying, i've never made one with a rounded style |
| 06:59.44 | iMisu | Round is not common because the collapse is soft |
| 07:00.01 | iMisu | Look in a phone charger, you find round supply |
| 07:00.30 | iMisu | Ill show you an older FBT i made. |
| 07:00.48 | nooblark | mmk so stick with a straight one for the sake of simplicity |
| 07:00.49 | nooblark | lol |
| 07:01.22 | iMisu | Well with straight ones your field collapse dies |
| 07:01.27 | iMisu | And you will never achieve high voltage |
| 07:01.35 | iMisu | http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/867/fks0ztxg9ngufuelarge.jpg |
| 07:01.38 | iMisu | This is my best FBT |
| 07:02.13 | iMisu | Could weld paperclips with it. |
| 07:02.14 | nooblark | lol |
| 07:02.14 | iMisu | Paper clips and a screwdriver |
| 07:02.40 | iMisu | The coil on the far right is the FBT |
| 07:02.44 | iMisu | 20 amps |
| 07:02.52 | iMisu | The coil on the left, is my dampner |
| 07:03.11 | nooblark | the coil on the right has insulated wire around it? |
| 07:03.12 | iMisu | To take the inital shock and soften it out |
| 07:03.15 | iMisu | Yes |
| 07:03.44 | nooblark | i didn't know you can use insulated wire. wtf. |
| 07:03.54 | nooblark | what's better? :P |
| 07:03.57 | G0A | wow this game looks fucking awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXty2JYIjPo |
| 07:04.02 | iMisu | I will show you a video of it in action |
| 07:04.13 | iMisu | If I didnt use insulated wire |
| 07:04.17 | iMisu | It would melt instantly |
| 07:04.44 | nooblark | well this is a lot stronger than your other invention |
| 07:04.48 | nooblark | whats the amp output on this? |
| 07:04.56 | iMisu | 20 amps |
| 07:05.01 | iMisu | I have a video I will upload for you really fast. |
| 07:05.07 | nooblark | wow the wind sounds like it's tearing my house apart. |
| 07:06.16 | nooblark | if you wound that pink wire a little tighter, wouldn't it work a little better? |
| 07:06.18 | iMisu | Uploading youtube now. |
| 07:06.28 | iMisu | Nah you will see the whole thing in a second |
| 07:06.33 | nooblark | mmk |
| 07:08.00 | iMisu | Its on my phone uploading right now. |
| 07:09.13 | nooblark | i'm basically confused |
| 07:09.15 | nooblark | from |
| 07:09.21 | nooblark | midly wrapped ones |
| 07:09.28 | nooblark | and super wrapped ones |
| 07:09.35 | iMisu | The wire you see is extremely heavy |
| 07:09.38 | iMisu | Its not easy to wrap |
| 07:09.49 | nooblark | but it gives higher amps |
| 07:09.54 | nooblark | because of gague? |
| 07:10.15 | iMisu | I had to use higher gauge wire because if I didnt , it would just melt like a crayola. |
| 07:10.30 | iMisu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9NtSh4d3M&feature=youtu.be |
| 07:10.33 | iMisu | Here watch |
| 07:11.21 | iMisu | This was all custom made from scratch |
| 07:11.55 | nooblark | lol |
| 07:12.01 | iMisu | Pause at :004 |
| 07:12.20 | nooblark | mmhm |
| 07:12.21 | iMisu | You can see everything is medium weight up until the FBT |
| 07:12.31 | iMisu | Then heavy gague |
| 07:14.34 | iMisu | Ill show the last video I made |
| 07:14.49 | iMisu | I went lowest voltage possible with highest amp |
| 07:16.03 | iMisu | I love electricity |
| 07:17.25 | iMisu | This is with the cleanest possible collapse |
| 07:17.27 | iMisu | I get Plasma |
| 07:17.48 | iMisu | I have image of the same coil with a few bits of other components |
| 07:18.01 | iMisu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNCaULzYZnY&feature=youtu.be |
| 07:18.14 | nooblark | im more interested in building the transformers |
| 07:18.15 | iMisu | 2 9 volt batteries does this |
| 07:18.54 | iMisu | This plasma is enough to put a woopin |
| 07:19.13 | iMisu | at 8 seconds |
| 07:19.15 | iMisu | you see the same coil |
| 07:19.28 | iMisu | FBT's are beautiful |
| 07:19.39 | iMisu | But could cost your life with a slip of a screwdriver |
| 07:21.19 | nooblark | i'm not trying to deal with deadly amperage |
| 07:21.19 | iMisu | Oh you will want this |
| 07:21.20 | nooblark | lol |
| 07:21.30 | iMisu | I found my first video |
| 07:21.33 | iMisu | 1 AA battery |
| 07:21.35 | iMisu | 60k volts |
| 07:21.53 | iMisu | no transformer |
| 07:22.08 | nooblark | :O |
| 07:22.09 | iMisu | Wana see that one :? |
| 07:22.13 | nooblark | yajh |
| 07:22.46 | iMisu | I had some lcd from calculators |
| 07:22.50 | iMisu | I put it near it, POOF |
| 07:23.11 | iMisu | Battery died fast though |
| 07:23.16 | iMisu | Only sad part |
| 07:24.17 | iMisu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejuVhY77SXk&feature=youtu.be |
| 07:24.31 | nooblark | i totally got zapped a few times touching things i didnt know had charges |
| 07:24.39 | iMisu | If you touched this |
| 07:24.44 | iMisu | It would kill you |
| 07:24.54 | iMisu | its like 9 amps if i remember |
| 07:24.59 | iMisu | Its old shit though, |
| 07:25.31 | iMisu | The voltage is so high and travling in the air |
| 07:25.37 | iMisu | It would power things near it up to a foot away |
| 07:26.43 | nooblark | lol |
| 07:27.04 | iMisu | That is what then lead me to powering things up to 6-7 inches away with purpose |
| 07:27.08 | nooblark | i just want to make a cool low amp high volt thing |
| 07:27.29 | iMisu | I have my best video to show you still |
| 07:27.35 | nooblark | 100% from scratch, with materials i can find lying around |
| 07:28.07 | iMisu | Making materials from scratch and using them is the most fun |
| 07:28.21 | iMisu | But when you start spending 200-300$ on materials to make your stuff from scratch |
| 07:28.29 | iMisu | It starts to hurt the pocket book |
| 07:29.13 | iMisu | You will like this video the most I think |
| 07:29.20 | nooblark | so.. like |
| 07:29.27 | iMisu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaXFjCgbp70&feature=youtu.be |
| 07:30.01 | iMisu | The high energy will pass through anything BUT metal |
| 07:30.25 | iMisu | All this is is windings of low gauge wire |
| 07:31.15 | nooblark | that is cool |
| 07:31.23 | nooblark | what was on the bottom of the ledS? |
| 07:31.23 | iMisu | Its very safe actually too |
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| 07:32.35 | iMisu2 | guess I dc |
| 07:32.40 | nooblark | i asked |
| 07:32.47 | nooblark | what was on the bottom of the leds |
| 07:32.53 | iMisu2 | Oh |
| 07:32.57 | iMisu2 | A small coil is on the bottom |
| 07:33.02 | iMisu2 | a few hundred wrappings |
| 07:33.38 | nooblark | by hundred, you mean around the ring 'with it' rather than around it around it, right? |
| 07:33.51 | nooblark | i duno how to describe it |
| 07:34.11 | iMisu2 | are you talking about on the LED or the coil on the table top |
| 07:34.51 | nooblark | on led |
| 07:34.54 | Daara | are those your videos misu? |
| 07:34.57 | nooblark | i guess its the same |
| 07:34.59 | iMisu2 | Yes sir. |
| 07:35.00 | nooblark | nvm |
| 07:35.17 | iMisu2 | Its not Misu at the momment |
| 07:35.19 | Daara | you don't paint your nails? i am disappoint |
| 07:35.20 | iMisu2 | Its me Taz. |
| 07:35.26 | nooblark | omg wait |
| 07:35.29 | nooblark | how much |
| 07:35.30 | nooblark | current |
| 07:35.37 | iMisu2 | for the wireless power ? |
| 07:35.42 | nooblark | mini windmill produce? |
| 07:35.44 | nooblark | like |
| 07:35.52 | nooblark | you make a windmill to generate electricity |
| 07:36.27 | iMisu2 | Depends how intense the generator is |
| 07:36.27 | nooblark | you still here taz |
| 07:36.47 | iMisu2 | Thats a much harder topic to describe |
| 07:36.49 | nooblark | mmm i feel like i'm making it complicated now |
| 07:36.50 | nooblark | lol |
| 07:36.57 | nooblark | anyway |
| 07:36.59 | iMisu2 | Inside is a mother of a hell alot of components |
| 07:37.07 | iMisu2 | but Its really simple solution |
| 07:37.09 | iMisu2 | is take a motor |
| 07:37.14 | iMisu2 | put it on your multimeter |
| 07:37.20 | iMisu2 | spin it with your fingers |
| 07:37.20 | nooblark | your as bad as misu, keeping me up late |
| 07:37.39 | iMisu2 | You will see your multimeter read a few volts |
| 07:37.46 | nooblark | at least this is more interesting and fun than the shit she has me do. |
| 07:37.52 | iMisu2 | Ha! |
| 07:38.02 | iMisu2 | I try to be intresting. |
| 07:38.14 | nooblark | now i need to find out how to make a motor. |
| 07:38.25 | iMisu2 | I can describe how to make one from scratch |
| 07:38.34 | iMisu2 | Grab your self a magnet |
| 07:38.38 | iMisu2 | a coathanger |
| 07:38.42 | iMisu2 | a block of wood |
| 07:38.45 | iMisu2 | some network wire |
| 07:38.51 | iMisu2 | and a 12 volt battery, low amps |
| 07:38.54 | iMisu2 | like 1.2ah |
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| 07:39.03 | iMisu2 | take the wire |
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| 07:39.11 | iMisu2 | wrap it around the magnet |
| 07:39.26 | iMisu2 | make sure this is a circular mag |
| 07:39.32 | iMisu2 | the one that has the hole in the center |
| 07:39.37 | nooblark | yah |
| 07:39.40 | iMisu2 | after wrapping it, make 2 legs come off |
| 07:39.53 | iMisu2 | one side of the wire on the left will be exposed |
| 07:39.56 | iMisu2 | only half of it |
| 07:40.07 | iMisu2 | on the other side, half, but on the oposite side |
| 07:40.11 | iMisu2 | Better yet |
| 07:40.15 | iMisu2 | Let me get an online whiteboard |
| 07:40.20 | nooblark | no |
| 07:40.24 | iMisu2 | Because now you are talking about fun stuff |
| 07:40.25 | nooblark | lool |
| 07:40.28 | nooblark | dude |
| 07:40.30 | iMisu2 | Making motors is fun shit |
| 07:40.31 | nooblark | i gotta go to bed |
| 07:40.35 | nooblark | i live east coast. |
| 07:40.36 | iMisu2 | Here learn something |
| 07:40.41 | nooblark | anther day |
| 07:40.55 | nooblark | i know what you mean so far |
| 07:40.59 | iMisu2 | ight |
| 07:41.05 | iMisu2 | well, take your coat hanger |
| 07:41.08 | iMisu2 | and make loops like this |
| 07:41.11 | iMisu2 | --------O |
| 07:41.20 | iMisu2 | make them stick out of your block of wood about 2-3 inches apart |
| 07:41.38 | iMisu2 | put your magnet that has the wires sticking out from each other in the loops |
| 07:41.43 | iMisu2 | so that it hangs and will spin freely |
| 07:41.57 | iMisu2 | grab your battery and hook it to the posts |
| 07:42.01 | iMisu2 | Now. it wont do anything |
| 07:42.11 | iMisu2 | Unless you give it a kick start by spinning it with your fingers |
| 07:42.17 | iMisu2 | if you done it right, after you spin it |
| 07:42.21 | iMisu2 | It will stay spinning |
| 07:42.32 | nooblark | you lost me on the loop part |
| 07:42.38 | nooblark | rest of it i got |
| 07:42.58 | iMisu2 | http://flockdraw.com/1gpec "P |
| 07:43.24 | nooblark | i think i get |
| 07:43.25 | nooblark | yah |
| 07:43.59 | iMisu2 | if you make it good enough |
| 07:44.04 | iMisu2 | You can actualy use an axel |
| 07:44.11 | iMisu2 | and coat either side. |
| 07:44.15 | iMisu2 | And spin stuff with it |
| 07:44.18 | iMisu2 | just clean it up |
| 07:44.20 | iMisu2 | It hawls ass |
| 07:44.32 | nooblark | so the wire needs to be |
| 07:44.33 | iMisu2 | I was able to get 1,500RPM out of one I made |
| 07:44.34 | nooblark | strong enough |
| 07:44.42 | nooblark | to support the weight f the coil thing |
| 07:44.45 | iMisu2 | yes, Solid wire |
| 07:44.50 | nooblark | and it floats in the loops |
| 07:44.54 | iMisu2 | Yep |
| 07:44.57 | nooblark | mmk |
| 07:45.10 | nooblark | can't use that wire as the axle? |
| 07:45.16 | iMisu2 | You can, |
| 07:45.29 | iMisu2 | But it will bend after getting high speed |
| 07:45.33 | nooblark | i see |
| 07:45.34 | iMisu2 | And fly out of there knocking your ass out |
| 07:45.40 | nooblark | lol |
| 07:45.51 | iMisu2 | I been hit before, dont tickle |
| 07:45.59 | nooblark | so how does this work with my windmill? |
| 07:46.07 | nooblark | the windmill roates the motot |
| 07:46.09 | nooblark | motor |
| 07:46.10 | iMisu2 | Put a propeller on the axel |
| 07:46.13 | iMisu2 | and instead of a battery |
| 07:46.16 | nooblark | that produces the electricty? |
| 07:46.23 | iMisu2 | Yarp |
| 07:46.25 | nooblark | nice |
| 07:46.27 | nooblark | fuck yah |
| 07:46.47 | iMisu2 | its techincally a crude crude way of making AC |
| 07:46.52 | nooblark | how would i make it in an enclosure? :P |
| 07:47.06 | iMisu2 | You cant really |
| 07:47.13 | iMisu2 | Its like the most crude form of a motor |
| 07:47.36 | iMisu2 | if you want to make something more powerful A LOT of calculation is involved |
| 07:47.49 | iMisu2 | You then need to start wrapping cores |
| 07:47.50 | nooblark | lets say |
| 07:47.51 | nooblark | i want to |
| 07:47.55 | nooblark | make a windmill |
| 07:47.56 | iMisu2 | and using powerful magnets that are close |
| 07:48.01 | nooblark | that lights an LED |
| 07:48.10 | nooblark | all 100% from scratch, ranom materials i find |
| 07:48.43 | iMisu2 | Making power from scratch is difficult |
| 07:48.51 | iMisu2 | making a small amount of power ALOT is easy |
| 07:49.08 | nooblark | oh |
| 07:49.10 | nooblark | damn |
| 07:49.14 | iMisu2 | If making power from scratch was easy. You and I would not be paying for electricity |
| 07:49.32 | iMisu2 | The only way to make large amounts of power to be used is by sun, which is 50/50 and expensive |
| 07:49.36 | iMisu2 | Or water force |
| 07:49.37 | nooblark | would that design work though? |
| 07:49.42 | iMisu2 | which is dangerous |
| 07:50.04 | iMisu2 | Basically |
| 07:50.07 | iMisu2 | here what you should do |
| 07:50.09 | nooblark | simple motor on a windmill to power a led |
| 07:50.10 | iMisu2 | to learn the basics |
| 07:50.16 | iMisu2 | grab a simple motor |
| 07:50.22 | iMisu2 | at like, radioshack |
| 07:50.27 | iMisu2 | grab a propeller |
| 07:50.37 | iMisu2 | make sure the motor you grab is going to be lower voltage |
| 07:50.45 | iMisu2 | something cheap, the cheaper smaller, the easier to spin |
| 07:51.03 | iMisu2 | weak magnents wont generate a lot of energy but it will be consistant |
| 07:51.12 | iMisu2 | consistancy is better than output for now |
| 07:51.20 | iMisu2 | mount it on a block of wood or something |
| 07:51.24 | iMisu2 | in front of a box fan |
| 07:51.30 | iMisu2 | measure your currents coming out of the motor |
| 07:51.39 | iMisu2 | box fan would be your outside nature wind |
| 07:51.52 | iMisu2 | after you get your current from your motor |
| 07:51.58 | iMisu2 | find out what you want to do with that current |
| 07:52.02 | nooblark | mmk |
| 07:52.06 | iMisu2 | raise it lower it, make it more consistant |
| 07:52.07 | iMisu2 | store it |
| 07:52.10 | iMisu2 | thats up to you |
| 07:52.35 | iMisu2 | The most fun thing with experiments like that |
| 07:52.39 | iMisu2 | Try to make perpetual energy |
| 07:52.47 | iMisu2 | most of the time you need to get it started |
| 07:52.50 | iMisu2 | but it will last a while |
| 07:53.08 | iMisu2 | make a fan powered by a fan power a fan so the fan you need powered is blown on by the fan youre powering |
| 07:53.21 | iMisu2 | mind fuck, i know but its neat |
| 07:53.26 | nooblark | lol |
| 07:53.42 | nooblark | k i'm going to go |
| 07:53.51 | iMisu2 | Alright bro, Have a good night |
| 07:53.54 | nooblark | you too |
| 07:53.54 | nooblark | cya |
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| 11:08.12 | Ahli | http://sc2hots.zapto.org/ |
| 11:13.43 | twodie | nice map description: 2v2 map that took five minutes to make |
| 11:16.08 | Ahli | http://www.own3d.tv/blog/19/own3D_Announcement_31st_January_2013 own3d dies |
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| 11:17.37 | twodie | Finally a zolden! |
| 11:17.42 | Zolden | hey |
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| 11:17.52 | twodie | map description of zolden maps: 2v2 map that took five minutes to make |
| 11:17.54 | Zolden | it's the zolden |
| 11:18.20 | Zolden | it's description of anyone's map |
| 11:18.48 | twodie | hey, no its not. ASDklJQWDOQ |
| 11:20.44 | Zolden | I failed in attemt to use wow skeleton for my mesh ;/ |
| 11:20.53 | twodie | okay |
| 11:20.54 | Zolden | skin just ruined it |
| 11:20.55 | twodie | in other news |
| 11:21.17 | twodie | Zolden you said something about Elo that you will make it or something? |
| 11:21.18 | twodie | but |
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| 11:21.37 | twodie | the problem is with banks taht it doesnt save if you lose or win if you leave |
| 11:21.40 | Zolden | yes, u just make banks work |
| 11:21.42 | twodie | so Elo cant be calculaed |
| 11:21.51 | twodie | and saved for taht player |
| 11:22.02 | twodie | who left |
| 11:22.05 | Zolden | you save lose score |
| 11:22.12 | Zolden | at start |
| 11:22.23 | Zolden | in case of win you rewrite it for win |
| 11:22.39 | twodie | well thats a cool idea |
| 11:22.47 | twodie | problem solved |
| 11:22.51 | Zolden | :) |
| 11:22.52 | twodie | have a nice day |
| 11:22.54 | Zolden | u wulcome |
| 11:23.17 | twodie | back to play more retarded Zombie maps |
| 11:23.25 | Zolden | good choice |
| 11:24.00 | twodie | thank you |
| 11:25.44 | twodie | hmmm |
| 11:26.24 | twodie | just got idea how to recreate better experience as left 2 die to be more like left 4 died at some point |
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| 11:27.34 | Ahli | twodie, don't disappoint me :D |
| 11:27.56 | twodie | well i dont give a fuck if i will! |
| 11:29.22 | twodie | And we gone to play World War Zombies |
| 11:30.12 | twodie | So much zombie maps on US that even quite popular |
| 11:30.56 | twodie | Yeah thats more like World War Z recreation |
| 11:30.58 | twodie | in wc3 |
| 11:32.03 | Zolden | http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/tragemata/25155229/2397011/2397011_original.gif |
| 11:32.33 | twodie | seems normal too me |
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| 11:43.41 | twodie | Wow found great Zombie map, clear the infestation by killing civilians or birining them to healing centers |
| 11:43.51 | twodie | 0 reviews! |
| 11:44.01 | duckies | what it's called? |
| 11:44.09 | twodie | Zombie Pandemic |
| 11:44.16 | duckies | us or eu? |
| 11:44.20 | twodie | us |
| 11:44.36 | duckies | let's see :> |
| 11:45.08 | G0A | is there anyway to detect if somebody want to place a building? |
| 11:45.22 | twodie | unit uses ability |
| 11:45.26 | twodie | build and what stage |
| 11:45.37 | twodie | then if building is taht then actions |
| 11:46.02 | G0A | I know that |
| 11:46.11 | twodie | GREAT! |
| 11:46.13 | G0A | but it only activates if you already placed it... |
| 11:46.41 | twodie | when worker starts working already on building structure? |
| 11:46.58 | twodie | then its something must be with order queue |
| 11:47.04 | Zolden | G0A: if you don't want the building to be placed, remove it and return the money spent |
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| 11:48.10 | G0A | Zolden I know that too but I want to show where you can place the building and where you cant and it can be only placed outside of the range of a building so I cant use pylon power source |
| 11:49.30 | Zolden | G0A: building ability has a validator field, tried to use it? |
| 11:49.40 | ErikI | Anyone else having localization problems? It's worked fine for me for a long time but now it's starting to mess up randomly. Sometimes when I open the editor, some variable names are "" which messes up the map and sometimes I get the famous Param/Value/ randomly when testing |
| 11:49.57 | Zolden | I mean, each build command has one |
| 11:50.09 | ErikI | It usually goes away if I go into locale and remove the enUS locale and reselect the enGB one, but it's still annoying |
| 11:51.16 | Zolden | ErikI: never played with locale shit and never witnessed any problems (my editor is russian, and I publihsed on eu and us) |
| 11:51.34 | G0A | Zolden it doesnt have validator field |
| 11:51.55 | Zolden | make fields not stack |
| 11:52.00 | Zolden | u'll see one |
| 11:52.04 | ErikI | I don't play with locales either. I just do it to fix stuff when it messes up. I only want to publish on EU and NA with english language but it seems like it's messing up by writing some stuff in enGB and some in enUS |
| 11:52.37 | Zolden | ErikI: there was a thread on forum explaining this thing |
| 11:53.52 | duckies | g0a, zolden, twodie, lets try out that zombie map? :O |
| 11:54.12 | Zolden | duckies: i recently woke up and have shit to do, sry |
| 11:54.30 | G0A | Zolden rofl that is sneaky |
| 11:54.35 | duckies | eh, okay >.> |
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| 11:54.48 | G0A | duckies hell no.D |
| 11:54.50 | Otixa | Hurr |
| 11:54.51 | Zolden | G0A: yea, i was wondered to found too |
| 11:54.59 | G0A | you dont even wanna play my surival map:D |
| 11:55.26 | duckies | Iyour fault you didn't play it with me when I was obsessed with it >.> |
| 11:55.32 | duckies | :D |
| 11:55.38 | duckies | anyway, we started |
| 11:55.45 | G0A | Zolden I think I could have used that in more than 1 of my maps if I would know about it |
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| 11:56.50 | Zolden | I think it's a bug, that this field isn't visible in stack mode |
| 11:56.57 | Otixa | interview times |
| 12:05.18 | ErikI | Does anyone here know if it's possible to hide terrain cells in-game while playing? |
| 12:05.37 | twodie | y |
| 12:05.55 | twodie | campaign maps use it |
| 12:06.05 | twodie | dont knwo where to make it |
| 12:06.13 | twodie | maybe in triggers Envoirements |
| 12:06.15 | twodie | or something |
| 12:06.24 | ErikI | Okay |
| 12:06.27 | ErikI | I'll check it out |
| 12:07.00 | ErikI | Okay, I found it :P |
| 12:07.05 | ErikI | That is awesome. |
| 12:07.07 | twodie | GREAT! |
| 12:07.28 | ErikI | It means I can do an in-game map editor for my map |
| 12:07.59 | twodie | you sure are |
| 12:08.18 | twodie | whats your plan? by using this stuff? :] |
| 12:08.44 | ErikI | http://i.imgur.com/3gf3GEh.jpg |
| 12:09.01 | ErikI | It's based on the board game RoboRally |
| 12:09.22 | ErikI | As you can see, there's various obstacles |
| 12:09.44 | ErikI | and they can all theoretically be created in-game to allow for custom map creation |
| 12:09.51 | ErikI | I was afraid that wasn't the case for the pit |
| 12:09.55 | ErikI | which uses hidden terrain cells |
| 12:13.01 | twodie | cool |
| 12:15.37 | G0A | man I hate validators |
| 12:16.31 | twodie | yeah, disallowing to do stuff :/ |
| 12:16.35 | G0A | specially the enumerate one.D |
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| 12:41.46 | Ahli | http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/warcraft-movie-lands-source-code-416956 |
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| 12:49.52 | G0A | dammit |
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| 12:49.58 | G0A | I want sc2 movie instead w3 |
| 12:50.32 | G0A | Warcraft is expected to have a budget north of $100 million. |
| 13:03.11 | Zolden | formally, hobbit is second-order warcraft movie |
| 13:03.11 | Ahli | but all wow addicts will watch that |
| 13:05.13 | G0A | People still addicted to wow? |
| 13:06.49 | Zolden | G0A: did you read Lukyanenko's book where he predicted wow? it was writteen somwhere in 1995 |
| 13:09.40 | Ahli | don't know :S is wow dead yet? |
| 13:11.01 | Zolden | i think it is, why else would blizz plan to create another mmorpg |
| 13:12.10 | Ahli | to use a better engine? |
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| 13:15.20 | Zolden | maybe they rather need a new interface, gloves and glasses instead of mouse and monitor... maybe even genitalia interface to bang each other in game |
| 13:18.09 | G0A | Fucking data editor and its retarded bugs... |
| 13:18.49 | Zolden | punch it |
| 13:18.59 | G0A | did Lukyanenko written anything similar to wow?:) |
| 13:20.23 | Zolden | a couple of books with gonmes and magic |
| 13:20.38 | twodie | so |
| 13:21.00 | Zolden | but the book I mentioned predicted that ppl will play fantasy rpg's as elfes and shit in internet |
| 13:21.03 | twodie | G0A where is map with a screen shot for sneak peak? |
| 13:22.02 | G0A | nothing to sneak peak |
| 13:22.15 | G0A | didnt actually did much:D |
| 13:22.49 | twodie | so what you did at all in resume? |
| 13:23.07 | G0A | working on zombie spawn system |
| 13:27.55 | twodie | okay going to start making any other new map and tomorrow will forget that i was doing it |
| 13:28.09 | A1win | Zolden, umm... weren't there online "RPGs" before 1995 already ;p MUDs and such |
| 13:30.24 | A1win | in 1975 already they had some MUDs in the early versions of the internet |
| 13:30.52 | Zolden | maybe, but it was looking shitty with primitive modem connection, while in his book it was realistic like it's the real world (he rather predictied what wow will become after interface will be connected to all senses, not jsut visual and sound like it's now, so ppl will believe that game is reality) |
| 13:31.12 | G0A | twodie I gona send you the map in minutes... |
| 13:31.18 | twodie | YEAHS |
| 13:31.18 | twodie | ASD |
| 13:31.19 | twodie | AD |
| 13:31.19 | twodie | ASD |
| 13:31.19 | twodie | QW |
| 13:31.19 | twodie | |E |
| 13:31.20 | twodie | QE| |
| 13:31.20 | twodie | QW| |
| 13:31.21 | twodie | QF| |
| 13:31.21 | twodie | Q |
| 13:31.24 | Zolden | poop |
| 13:31.31 | twodie | where? :O |
| 13:31.48 | G0A | I kind of had enough for today cause some retarded bugs:D |
| 13:31.51 | Zolden | (:::::::) <--- |
| 13:32.07 | Zolden | ,,,oooOOOoo. |
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| 13:34.49 | twodie | New project title: Terran Invasion |
| 13:35.01 | twodie | annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd close |
| 13:39.51 | Zolden | twodie: |
| 13:39.55 | Zolden | 1. relax |
| 13:39.56 | twodie | Me |
| 13:40.04 | twodie | 2. Done |
| 13:40.04 | Zolden | 2. implement bank read save |
| 13:40.11 | Zolden | 3. implement bank read save |
| 13:40.19 | twodie | 4. CHILL |
| 13:40.24 | Zolden | 5. implement bank read save |
| 13:40.38 | twodie | 6. STFU I GOT THAT SHIT |
| 13:40.42 | twodie | 7. IDK WHEN! |
| 13:41.00 | Zolden | 8. RIght now |
| 13:41.26 | Zolden | 9. Concentrate first |
| 13:41.37 | twodie | 9. no we wait for G0A to give me a man after midnight |
| 13:42.31 | Zolden | 10. Go to 1 |
| 13:43.06 | twodie | 11. heh :? |
| 13:46.50 | Zolden | new depeche mode tracks suck, what a shame |
| 13:47.01 | G0A | ohh great |
| 13:47.13 | twodie | well i find taht they have just few at all great songs |
| 13:47.16 | twodie | or just one |
| 13:47.25 | twodie | yeah two for sure |
| 13:47.39 | G0A | in mistake I set cursor effect instead of effect of target ability and took me 15 minute to figure it out. fucking data editor:D |
| 13:48.12 | twodie | derp |
| 13:51.36 | G0A | ohh it wasnt the real problem |
| 13:51.39 | twodie | G0A btw add to mega new mail hyperis@yahoo.com cause cant loggin with other email |
| 13:51.49 | twodie | to acc |
| 13:51.51 | G0A | rofl |
| 13:52.13 | G0A | btw using the mail you should be able to login... |
| 13:52.22 | twodie | cant |
| 13:52.27 | G0A | dont use IE:D |
| 13:52.46 | twodie | using mail tried most of possibilities of my pass but cant |
| 13:52.54 | twodie | using this yahoo acc works fine |
| 13:53.32 | G0A | I already grant access to hyperis@yahoo.com |
| 13:55.02 | twodie | okay i see |
| 14:00.28 | Kubi | So I played this game called Aeon of Storms |
| 14:00.30 | Kubi | really nicely done |
| 14:00.36 | Kubi | too bad it's just another dota clone. |
| 14:00.40 | G0A | fucking ability I had to set a cursor effect and effect too to actually work |
| 14:01.25 | Kubi | I swear to god |
| 14:01.31 | Kubi | What's with all the dota clones |
| 14:01.35 | Kubi | make something orginal |
| 14:01.36 | duckies | damn, G0A, I'm getting impression that all of your previous maps were done through trigger editror only :D |
| 14:01.37 | Kubi | jesus christ |
| 14:02.09 | duckies | kubi, go make something original instead, only you can |
| 14:02.10 | Zolden | duckies: go play 1 sec of my rise of legends map on na and rate it pls, wanna see it in upncoming crap |
| 14:02.16 | Kubi | I am |
| 14:02.17 | G0A | duckies kind of:) +I didnt map much recently |
| 14:02.17 | Kubi | but |
| 14:02.27 | Zolden | butt |
| 14:02.30 | Kubi | still |
| 14:02.33 | duckies | zolden, doesn't it depend on time played |
| 14:02.44 | duckies | anyway, I can afford to just afk in there for 2h :D |
| 14:02.46 | Zolden | i think rating correlates |
| 14:02.54 | G0A | yeah it depends on the change in time player... |
| 14:02.56 | G0A | played* |
| 14:03.26 | Zolden | well, u can play its singleplayer campaign, which is tutorial+survival thing |
| 14:03.32 | duckies | so what are you making kubi? |
| 14:03.50 | Zolden | he's making cubes |
| 14:03.55 | duckies | I can, but not now, got to do some thinking :3 |
| 14:04.19 | Zolden | thinking is my facorite part of existance |
| 14:04.47 | twodie | Zolden STOP THAT ITS BAD FOR YOU HEALTH! |
| 14:05.29 | Zolden | your words look like penises |
| 14:05.58 | duckies | hm, that is true, twodies words indeed look like that :~O |
| 14:06.47 | G0A | twodie uploading the map. (there is sightly bug, you will see psi storm at wrong place because I was lazy to make proper dummy) |
| 14:07.18 | duckies | there, it now has 37 rates :D |
| 14:07.35 | twodie | Zolden how is THAT POSSIBLE1?!?! |
| 14:07.37 | duckies | why are you so lazy goa, stop that D: |
| 14:07.47 | duckies | be more motivated >;/ |
| 14:08.05 | G0A | duckies its because you are lazy to play endless maps.D |
| 14:08.52 | duckies | i'm not lazy to play it, it's just that I devoured it long time ago, so there is nothing to gain from it anymore |
| 14:08.53 | twodie | why i cant download the map G0A still uplaoding?! |
| 14:09.06 | duckies | I sometimes do that to maps, quite sad ;| |
| 14:09.08 | Zolden | twodie: BdoD ByouD BwantD BtoD BincreaseD BorD BremoveD BthisD BeffectD? |
| 14:09.51 | twodie | Zolden well I DONT NAU! |
| 14:09.55 | G0A | try now |
| 14:09.58 | duckies | Kubi Kubi Kubi Kubi, what are you making! |
| 14:09.58 | G0A | its now uploaded |
| 14:10.16 | duckies | don't try it, there is a virus in it |
| 14:10.26 | duckies | goa intends to steal all your maps :3 |
| 14:10.28 | Dustin|Work | Good morning gentlemen |
| 14:10.39 | G0A | duckies not a bad idea.D |
| 14:11.12 | duckies | I better no open any links from you too =D |
| 14:11.20 | duckies | *not |
| 14:12.26 | duckies | on the other hand, maybe if you stole what I have it would have a chance to be finished for a change.. |
| 14:12.31 | duckies | yea.. bring it! >:D |
| 14:13.13 | twodie | G0A getting decryption error |
| 14:13.20 | G0A | pff |
| 14:13.22 | G0A | dl again |
| 14:15.12 | twodie | G0A decryption error |
| 14:15.58 | duckies | stop encrypting files goa x_x |
| 14:16.23 | twodie | or just stop using mega ! |
| 14:16.30 | G0A | 95kb size.D |
| 14:16.38 | duckies | why don't you two just setup a dropbox for your needs? |
| 14:16.57 | G0A | ohh |
| 14:17.00 | twodie | duckies you ask G0A !! dont include me in this question |
| 14:17.02 | G0A | the map is 95kb.D |
| 14:17.55 | duckies | goa, I know, open map as text and copy-paste it here line by line so that twodie can save it :D |
| 14:18.13 | twodie | ^^ |
| 14:18.25 | G0A | :) |
| 14:18.51 | G0A | it opens for me |
| 14:19.00 | G0A | twodie problem is at you:D |
| 14:19.00 | twodie | it doenst let me download |
| 14:19.05 | G0A | ohh |
| 14:19.24 | G0A | https://mega.co.nz/#!pFtgkSpC!K6sP8CD4qh4DqwEg1QJovzBucCEtw-SueYlGWcUC3JI |
| 14:19.38 | G0A | soo |
| 14:19.48 | G0A | now everybody can open our shity map:D |
| 14:20.07 | Dustin|Work | STOLEN |
| 14:20.16 | twodie | http://snag.gy/06UGK.jpg |
| 14:20.35 | G0A | lol |
| 14:20.40 | G0A | just use the link than |
| 14:20.48 | twodie | and frozen |
| 14:21.32 | twodie | fuck it |
| 14:21.35 | twodie | go get drop box |
| 14:21.41 | G0A | still no success?:D |
| 14:22.04 | G0A | which mail adress should i send the map? |
| 14:22.12 | G0A | lets stay than oldschool.9 |
| 14:22.24 | twodie | hyperis@yahoo.com |
| 14:22.50 | twodie | plz sing me for gay pron too liek Dustin|Home or Dustin|Work |
| 14:22.52 | G0A | sent |
| 14:22.53 | twodie | or Dustin |
| 14:23.14 | Dustin|Work | I already sent the map to like 50 gay porn sites |
| 14:24.00 | twodie | heh, cant seem to find any :? |
| 14:26.09 | G0A | so |
| 14:26.13 | G0A | managed to open it? |
| 14:26.55 | twodie | Yeah, well thats a mess :O |
| 14:27.39 | Fate | ist chaning the period time (behavior) with an technologie upgrade, buggy? |
| 14:28.20 | G0A | twodie nothing is mess there:D |
| 14:28.51 | G0A | btw didnt make win condition or the human pop system |
| 14:29.31 | twodie | Ohhh does still Map initialization when people drops out exist? cause im still using timer with 0.0001 |
| 14:29.34 | twodie | stuff |
| 14:29.41 | twodie | and get start making stuff triggering |
| 14:30.41 | G0A | :) |
| 14:31.22 | G0A | I think there was never such thing that 0.001 at start helped. |
| 14:31.33 | twodie | welll |
| 14:31.47 | twodie | it doenst break game either |
| 14:33.25 | twodie | wtf 500 zerg infested units and having serious lags :/ |
| 14:35.31 | Kubi | It's blizzards way of making SURE that zombie maps are unplayable |
| 14:35.41 | twodie | damn right! |
| 14:37.02 | twodie | i think my pc is dying |
| 14:37.21 | Kubi | Well, take it out back and put a bullet in it.. end it's miserable life. |
| 14:37.39 | Kubi | I don't think your computer can handle anymore hentai beastility porn anymore.. |
| 14:37.42 | Kubi | It's seen things. |
| 14:37.47 | Kubi | Browsed by you. |
| 14:39.07 | G0A | "WHO DA FUCK ARE YOU!!?!?!?" seriously?:) |
| 14:39.28 | twodie | :D |
| 14:39.39 | twodie | totally bored |
| 14:39.54 | Zolden | twodie: |
| 14:39.57 | Kubi | Anyone played this Aeon of Storms |
| 14:40.06 | twodie | Kurby yeah |
| 14:42.03 | Kubi | Too much modding |
| 14:42.03 | Kubi | lol |
| 14:42.11 | Kubi | All I gotta say |
| 14:42.52 | twodie | wtf i was doing half how from now... eating ? |
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| 14:50.28 | Zolden | twodie: you can s[en half of hour twitting about you twitting about you twitting about you twitting |
| 14:50.53 | twodie | dont have twitting account |
| 14:52.43 | Zolden | you coud try to do it in notepad, don't think there is a difference |
| 14:52.51 | Dustin|Work | Kubi |
| 14:52.53 | Dustin|Work | That's SOTIS |
| 14:53.35 | Zolden | btw twodie when host chooses 2 teams or 3 teamss or 4 teams, players' teams should automatically spread between teams |
| 14:54.12 | Kubi | The |
| 14:54.13 | Kubi | fuck |
| 14:54.14 | twodie | yeah was lazy to calculate and make proper triggering for that |
| 14:54.15 | Kubi | you |
| 14:54.22 | Kubi | just say to me |
| 14:55.24 | Dustin|Work | That Aeon of Storms map |
| 14:55.35 | Dustin|Work | It's that SOTIS map that was started back in beta |
| 14:56.32 | Kubi | Aeon of Storms is SOTIS? |
| 14:56.44 | Dustin|Work | yes |
| 14:56.48 | Dustin|Work | he renames it |
| 14:56.51 | Dustin|Work | renamed* |
| 14:57.06 | Kubi | gaaaaay |
| 14:57.08 | Kubi | eitherway |
| 14:57.13 | Kubi | another gay dota genre type map |
| 14:57.45 | Zolden | Kubi: you speak boring banal useless shit, stop it |
| 14:57.55 | Ahli | play temple siege 2, better dota genre type map because it's not an exact replica of lol/dota... |
| 14:57.58 | Kubi | You stop it |
| 14:58.04 | Kubi | Commie |
| 14:58.21 | Zolden | only 11 years nobs allowed to use sentences like "another gay dota clone map" |
| 14:58.39 | Zolden | grown up mappers doesn't care |
| 14:58.48 | Kubi | well it is.. i mean if you want to play a dota clone, play Lol |
| 14:58.55 | Dustin|Work | Lol LoL |
| 14:58.57 | Kubi | Of course, It's my opinion |
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| 14:59.08 | Dustin|Work | Id play HoN, Dota 2, AOS over LoL |
| 14:59.08 | Dustin|Work | :P |
| 14:59.18 | Kubi | Well, LoL is the leading dota clone atm |
| 14:59.23 | Kubi | or should I say MOBA clone |
| 14:59.27 | duckies | if you're so concerned about it, you should put all that enthusiasm into making a map that stands out of the crowd >.> |
| 14:59.27 | twodie | Anyone noticed bug with marsara Sand Texture when switching it doesnt allow to paint it in terrain editor |
| 14:59.41 | Ahli | twodie, play with the sliders |
| 14:59.47 | duckies | also you till haven't told what you're making |
| 14:59.51 | Dustin|Work | Cause it was made first, released free, and Riot knew how to market |
| 14:59.54 | Ahli | it's only a bad default setting |
| 14:59.55 | Kubi | Yeah I can complain about it.. I'm just saying I don't really like the genre since It's really no skill. |
| 14:59.56 | duckies | you secrecy kube |
| 15:00.16 | Kubi | So when kids are like lololowned.. i'm like grats u can control 1 hero |
| 15:00.23 | Dustin|Work | I want to make a 3rd person shooter/melee MOBA game |
| 15:00.29 | Dustin|Work | So it IS skill based |
| 15:00.37 | twodie | Ahli ohhh thanks |
| 15:00.44 | Kubi | Unfortunately you won't beable to do it in this engine. |
| 15:01.00 | Dustin|Work | Lol didnt even cross my mind to try it with sc2 |
| 15:01.02 | Kubi | Without it the controls feeling good/smoth whatnot |
| 15:01.12 | Zolden | wow, 0'C! spring came! it must be +20 in europe |
| 15:01.23 | Dustin|Work | Would be a cool Unity project |
| 15:01.27 | Zolden | G0A: is it +20? |
| 15:01.33 | Ahli | zolden, 7°C |
| 15:01.37 | Zolden | wow |
| 15:01.43 | Zolden | fucking spring |
| 15:01.51 | twodie | 4 |
| 15:02.02 | twodie | while snowing |
| 15:02.12 | Zolden | i'd go swim if it was +7 |
| 15:02.38 | Ahli | oh oh I somehow broke opera's text selection... can't select any text anymore |
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| 15:02.50 | Dustin|Work | 44 degrees |
| 15:02.54 | Dustin|Work | Is not fucking spring :P |
| 15:03.12 | Dustin|Work | Swimming does not come untill it's at least 70 |
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| 15:03.29 | Dustin|Work | or 21c for you metric fucks :D |
| 15:03.37 | Zolden | we're metric fucks |
| 15:03.55 | Zolden | i miss swiming ;/ |
| 15:04.03 | Dustin|Work | Move to US OF A |
| 15:04.34 | Zolden | yea, one day i will |
| 15:05.10 | Zolden | And swim the shit out of it |
| 15:05.25 | Dustin|Work | hehe |
| 15:05.42 | Zolden | but first i wnat more weed legalization in us |
| 15:06.03 | Dustin|Work | You'll have to move to Colorado or Washington |
| 15:06.13 | Dustin|Work | Ill be in one of those two places soon :P |
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| 15:06.54 | G0A | Dustin|Work but I want weed and guns too:) |
| 15:07.09 | Dustin|Work | You can get both here! |
| 15:07.33 | Zolden | what will happen if a cop find some weed in your pocket in other satetes? |
| 15:07.47 | Dustin|Work | Depends on the state |
| 15:07.57 | Zolden | which one is the worst? |
| 15:08.32 | G0A | Texas? |
| 15:10.18 | Dustin|Work | Not sure off the top of my head |
| 15:10.23 | Dustin|Work | Some are super bad |
| 15:10.40 | Dustin|Work | Kansas is bad about it |
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| 15:10.53 | Zolden | ;/ |
| 15:10.57 | Zolden | it's a good place to grow |
| 15:11.15 | Dustin|Work | It's really not, our temperatures change too damn much :( |
| 15:20.24 | Dogmai | ~seen blizz-deletarius |
| 15:20.27 | purl | blizz-deletarius <d8940048@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.148.0.72> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 16h 2m 59s ago, saying: 'brb'. |
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| 16:15.12 | twodie | http://snag.gy/dOUbu.jpg |
| 16:15.28 | twodie | so what you peps doing? |
| 16:16.04 | ErikI | Is there a way to attach model addition actors to several units? |
| 16:16.22 | twodie | yes |
| 16:16.29 | ErikI | I usually attach stuff in the model addition actor with the host and host site ops |
| 16:16.50 | ErikI | Using the main actor as subject |
| 16:18.24 | ErikI | How? |
| 16:19.05 | Zolden | use ::sender as a host, and add more events for all units you wnat to attach to |
| 16:19.33 | Zolden | i mean add more events to the attacheble actor |
| 16:20.06 | ErikI | I'm afraid my actor knowledge is not good enough to parse all of what you said. |
| 16:20.10 | ErikI | What type of subject is ::sender? |
| 16:20.19 | ErikI | There's "Sender" in System |
| 16:20.30 | Zolden | host->system->::sender |
| 16:20.43 | ErikI | Okay |
| 16:21.22 | Zolden | so, if you have in the attacheble actor an event like unit birth->shitty_unit -> create, it will be created at the unit |
| 16:22.29 | Zolden | or if you have there behavior.shitty_behavior.on -> create, it will be created on eny unit which got the shitty_behavior turned on on |
| 16:23.57 | ErikI | Okay, I'm probably doing something wrong. It's not working |
| 16:25.13 | ErikI | The attacheable actor's Hosting:Host's subject is set to System>Sender |
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| 16:25.50 | ErikI | sec |
| 16:25.51 | Zolden | find all add model type of actor and inpect their fields |
| 16:26.33 | ErikI | Do you have an example of such an actor? |
| 16:26.40 | Zolden | yea |
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| 16:28.00 | Zolden | fungal growth for example |
| 16:29.11 | ErikI | It has _Selectable as host subject instead of Sender. I'll try that |
| 16:30.26 | ErikI | Meh, not working |
| 16:30.38 | Zolden | check events and other fields |
| 16:30.43 | ErikI | I did |
| 16:30.44 | Zolden | u may miss a little something |
| 16:30.49 | ErikI | I think I'm doing something else wrong |
| 16:30.51 | Zolden | site operations field is alos matter |
| 16:31.04 | ErikI | So I'll do some experimenting |
| 16:38.36 | nooblark | dustin!! |
| 16:39.11 | Dustin|Work | sup |
| 16:39.18 | nooblark | sweet you answered. |
| 16:39.23 | nooblark | did that fix your map last night? |
| 16:39.29 | Dustin|Work | Not sure |
| 16:39.32 | nooblark | damn |
| 16:39.33 | Dustin|Work | Didnt get a chance to test |
| 16:39.36 | nooblark | mmk |
| 16:39.40 | nooblark | i was just curious |
| 16:39.43 | Dustin|Work | Tried, but its hard getting a full group :P |
| 16:39.52 | nooblark | you know me, i'll help anytime |
| 16:39.53 | Dustin|Work | If you have some time today and wanna test it for me, feel free ;) |
| 16:40.06 | nooblark | yah, i'll be off work at 7eastern |
| 16:40.33 | Dustin|Work | cool, ill be off at 6 eastern |
| 16:47.27 | nooblark | k g2g cya |
| 16:47.44 | Dustin|Work | lata |
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| 16:51.04 | ErikI | Does anyone else feel like Site ops are messy and buggy? |
| 16:51.26 | ErikI | They update in weird ways |
| 16:51.29 | Zolden | they work fine |
| 16:51.32 | Dustin|Work | Ya I dont fuck with em |
| 16:51.41 | Dustin|Work | so I dont know LO |
| 16:51.42 | Dustin|Work | :P* |
| 16:51.51 | ErikI | I just had a working modeladdition, I changed something and it disappeared |
| 16:52.01 | ErikI | I pressed undo and it's still not coming back |
| 16:52.11 | ErikI | and often when I use site ops, I have to move the unit before the update |
| 16:52.19 | ErikI | they* |
| 16:52.52 | Zolden | Dustin|Work: saying that you didn't fuck with site ops is the same as saying I'm a fucking noob, punch me |
| 16:53.21 | Zolden | undo is buggy sometimes |
| 16:53.31 | Dustin|Work | I've nver had too :P |
| 16:53.38 | Dustin|Work | I think I made 1 site op like 3 years ago |
| 16:54.16 | ErikI | Well, my other attachment still works and even if I remake the one that doesn't work so it looks exactly like the other one, but with different site ops(the site ops it had from the beginning) it's still broken |
| 16:54.35 | Zolden | have beta started yet 3 yearas ago? |
| 16:55.09 | Zolden | does the model you attach to have the attachment you attach to? |
| 16:55.45 | ErikI | Where do I choose which point to attach to? |
| 16:56.44 | Zolden | the actor you attach has launch site operations field, and there you set stuff like weapon or head etc |
| 16:58.10 | ErikI | Also, how do you use tokens? It's a separate list in the data editor, above or below the field list. My models had a unitName token and I deleted it on both of them and then the token list disappeared later on with no obvious way to get it back. |
| 16:59.50 | Zolden | dunno how to get it back, but this shit only creates or changes some events |
| 17:18.43 | ErikI | Oh right, I remember now |
| 17:18.58 | ErikI | The magic thing you have to do to update it is to press undo in the terrain editor |
| 17:19.00 | ErikI | not move it |
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| 17:45.50 | eimtr | hello.. |
| 17:45.56 | twodie | hey you! |
| 17:45.59 | eimtr | what should I do to modift |
| 17:46.11 | mille25 | hi |
| 17:46.13 | eimtr | modify the MULE's duration on game start |
| 17:46.42 | twodie | game start? |
| 17:46.48 | twodie | or when he lands? |
| 17:47.26 | eimtr | if I place a MULE on the map on Map Initialization it is permanent, I want to add the duration it has, that is displayed near the unit's wireframe |
| 17:47.37 | eimtr | is it effect, behavor, what is it |
| 17:47.50 | twodie | yeah you need to apply behavior |
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| 17:48.27 | twodie | do you know how to apply it with triggers? |
| 17:48.37 | eimtr | i was gonna ask if there is an action for it |
| 17:48.48 | twodie | sure is |
| 17:48.58 | eimtr | and should i modify the behavior to change its duration to something else |
| 17:49.21 | twodie | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:49.42 | twodie | for entire game or just at the start of the game? |
| 17:50.56 | twodie | eimtr btw use: Unit Group - Pick each unit in (MULE units in (Entire map) owned by player Any Player matching Excluded: Missile, Dead, Hidden, with at most Any Amount) and do (Actions) |
| 17:51.10 | twodie | and then add my behavrior to them |
| 17:51.54 | Zolden | applied a 5 sec behavior to twodie with do some shit to aok effect on finish |
| 17:52.01 | eimtr | it's just one mule |
| 17:52.09 | eimtr | but thanks |
| 17:52.37 | eimtr | also i wanna modify permamently |
| 17:52.38 | twodie | dont gives a fuck and continues making Zombie invasion map |
| 17:52.45 | eimtr | so yeah i will do it from data i guess |
| 17:53.53 | eimtr | guess the stats tab in the behavior that shows 90 is the value |
| 17:53.58 | Zolden | applies to twodie a periodic behavior with suicide periodic effect with "not doing aok" validator |
| 17:54.10 | twodie | eimtr yeah |
| 18:16.44 | Bommes | You can buy Antichamber on Steam now guys |
| 18:16.49 | Bommes | Looks like a really cool game |
| 18:17.00 | Bommes | been waiting for it for a while |
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| 18:28.11 | twodie | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vOM_QtVadU |
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| 18:57.17 | Zolden | how to place some creep in the editor? |
| 18:58.31 | Zolden | oh, found it |
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| 19:17.04 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: decals are projections |
| 19:17.08 | Zolden | u thought right |
| 19:17.14 | Taintedwisp | ah |
| 19:17.28 | Taintedwisp | did you guys get them working ? |
| 19:17.56 | Zolden | println implemented em for blender m3addon |
| 19:18.01 | Taintedwisp | ahhh |
| 19:18.12 | Zolden | how do you think I experimented with team coloring em |
| 19:18.22 | Taintedwisp | :D |
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| 19:28.55 | Bommes | Okay, let me say one thing, I usually hate Puzzle games |
| 19:29.01 | Bommes | but Antichamber looks amazing so far |
| 19:29.19 | Bommes | I can recommend it :) |
| 19:31.16 | twodie | hmmm, still advertesing it Bommes? |
| 19:32.40 | Bommes | I don't really care who buys it |
| 19:32.47 | Bommes | I just like plugging games that I like :P |
| 19:33.00 | twodie | okay |
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| 19:42.06 | Bommes | like Bastion |
| 19:42.11 | Bommes | you should all buy Bastion |
| 19:42.14 | Bommes | right now |
| 19:42.38 | Taintedwisp | I already played it an beat it... |
| 19:42.39 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 19:42.47 | Taintedwisp | so have most poeple by now haha |
| 19:42.58 | Taintedwisp | it was okay, the story was good, but the gameplay, meh |
| 19:43.20 | Taintedwisp | one of the best stories, it was just very very easy. |
| 19:43.29 | Taintedwisp | I just hack and slashed my way through |
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| 19:44.27 | Taintedwisp | Zolden make me pro hero glow :P |
| 19:44.50 | Taintedwisp | Even if its dim I can make it brighter :P just stack about 3 of them lol, but only glow works that way :) |
| 19:45.07 | Zolden | ok |
| 19:45.22 | Taintedwisp | I am playing Path of Exile its pretty good |
| 19:45.24 | Taintedwisp | Love the art style |
| 19:45.30 | Taintedwisp | just started though |
| 19:45.34 | Taintedwisp | love the potion system too |
| 19:45.42 | Taintedwisp | Dont like the gold system |
| 19:46.15 | Taintedwisp | pretty good game though so far |
| 19:46.22 | Taintedwisp | the talent tree is going to be fun |
| 19:46.33 | Zolden | if u'd be a jew, u'd love any gold system |
| 19:48.09 | Triceron | can I love it without being a jew? |
| 19:50.27 | Bommes | That's why you can enable as many idols and can make the game harder Tainted |
| 19:50.39 | Bommes | *as many idols as you want |
| 19:50.58 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:51.05 | Taintedwisp | There is no gold system zoldne :P |
| 19:51.08 | Zolden | Triceron: you talk like a jew! |
| 19:51.15 | Taintedwisp | but without gold it makes the loot feel empty so far |
| 19:51.27 | Taintedwisp | Because only 1/25 monsters drop anything |
| 19:51.34 | Triceron | Oy vay! |
| 19:53.19 | Triceron | so I opened my test map |
| 19:53.49 | Triceron | and I had every unit properly made from scratch instead of modifying existing units, have everything set up |
| 19:54.07 | Triceron | so I import my new model for testing |
| 19:54.16 | Triceron | and now I'm blanking on how to create a new unit -_- |
| 19:55.06 | Triceron | *sigh* why's this shit gotta be so complicated |
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| 19:57.08 | Taintedwisp | just duplicate any unit triceron, then create an actor and link it to said unit |
| 19:57.29 | Triceron | ugh now my editor's crashing |
| 19:58.56 | Zolden | guys, how can a guy preorder hots for me from blizzard?? |
| 20:00.48 | Triceron | can't gift I think |
| 20:01.07 | Triceron | charge it from your account to their payment method |
| 20:09.36 | Bommes | Triceron: What's the problem? |
| 20:09.39 | Zolden | ok |
| 20:09.44 | Bommes | with making a new unit |
| 20:10.02 | Triceron | there's too many steps to creating units, I'm just bitching out loud |
| 20:10.19 | Triceron | gotta bring up some tutorials again to refreshen the process |
| 20:10.20 | Bommes | oh okay |
| 20:10.28 | Bommes | if you just want to test the model |
| 20:10.47 | Bommes | go into the unit tab, right click "duplicate unit" and check the unit, the actor and the model that is used |
| 20:10.51 | Bommes | nothing else |
| 20:11.04 | Bommes | the actor in this case is the main unit actor, it's usually called the same as the unit |
| 20:11.18 | Bommes | and the only further step you have to do is go into the model that you duplicated and change it to your model |
| 20:13.21 | Bommes | working now? |
| 20:13.45 | Triceron | well i just swapped an existing unit's model for now |
| 20:14.28 | Triceron | so I just swapped out the Zealot with my new unit to test, I'm not gonna bother with organization till I run out of units to convert |
| 20:14.47 | Bommes | mkay |
| 20:14.58 | Bommes | did you still use the test map I made a while ago? |
| 20:15.01 | Triceron | really want a wizard for this stuff |
| 20:15.03 | Bommes | with the buttons to play animatinos? |
| 20:15.30 | Triceron | I haven't used it in a while, I haven't payed much with animations lately |
| 20:15.34 | Triceron | *played |
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| 20:18.59 | Bommes | kk |
| 20:19.16 | Bommes | the way I described it above should work though, there is not really anything more you have to do to duplicate units |
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| 20:20.01 | Fate | do i have to konvert ints to reals and reals to ints when i use artithmetic operations with int and real |
| 20:20.38 | Ahli | ints are automatically converted to reals in real arithmetic functions |
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| 20:22.59 | Leruster | hello everyone |
| 20:23.12 | sc2println | hello Leru |
| 20:23.18 | Leruster | just a quick question: did anyone recieve the beta tools? |
| 20:23.23 | Leruster | oh hi :) |
| 20:23.56 | Triceron | should be next week |
| 20:26.32 | Leruster | should be this week from what I understood ;) |
| 20:26.45 | Leruster | I'm like sitting on a bed of needles :D |
| 20:26.54 | sc2println | it will come out soon (TM) |
| 20:27.04 | Leruster | haha riiight :D |
| 20:27.07 | Leruster | soon(ish) |
| 20:27.17 | Bommes | unless they all died of exhaustion because they work 20h a day right now |
| 20:27.20 | Ahli | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwS5t2SLsDo&feature=youtu.be |
| 20:29.07 | Zolden | sc2println: hey |
| 20:29.26 | Zolden | sc2println: found another strange feature with m3addon |
| 20:29.44 | Zolden | it messed up some of uv map |
| 20:30.30 | Bommes | Does anyone know where I can find higher res versions of all these arts? |
| 20:30.32 | Bommes | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmu8PsUDDtQ |
| 20:31.02 | Triceron | hmm, you're right, it is supposed to be this week |
| 20:31.49 | Taintedwisp | soon - "an undefined time between now and never" |
| 20:31.56 | sc2println | sc2println: feature - not bug? |
| 20:32.44 | Zolden | sc2println: not sure, I have to try something else, but check this: http://snag.gy/FHwa5.jpg |
| 20:32.45 | sc2println | Zolden: btw did you just made your first decal? |
| 20:33.12 | Zolden | pure pink parts -> uv is ok, pink+black -> messed |
| 20:33.45 | Zolden | sc2println: I jsut changed priority 0 -> 1 |
| 20:33.47 | Ahli | bommes, you might find a few here: http://www.sonsofthestorm.com/viewer.php?artist=samwise&cat=starcraft&art=1 |
| 20:34.10 | sc2println | Zolden: Maybe it has two uv maps? |
| 20:34.23 | sc2println | and the so called "priority" is actually the UV layer? |
| 20:34.51 | Taintedwisp | TIME FOR ME TO FINISH THESE FUCKING HEROES!!! |
| 20:35.04 | Taintedwisp | NO MORE HEROES!!! NO MORE HEROES!!! NO MORE HEROES!!! |
| 20:35.10 | Triceron | unit decals have multiple uv sets |
| 20:36.25 | Zolden | sc2println: yes, those were lots of uv maps, for a few meshes, and then I united the meshes, and they saved uvs in max, but not in blender, but I'll try to create and collaps uv map again, and this is anyway, just a test, where all meshes are united into one mesh, so, lots of shit and I just have to make it the right way, and then it will probably work right |
| 20:36.49 | Zolden | sc2println: priority I mentioned isn't related to the pinl model |
| 20:39.19 | sc2println | Zolden: So in which variant was it broken? |
| 20:39.26 | sc2println | or was it broken in both variants |
| 20:41.22 | Zolden | sc2println: I had lots of meshes, each one had uv map collpased, I attached all meshes into 1 mesh, exported. This model had no UV issue in sc2. But I then imported this model to blemder and it said it doesn't get about uv. Exported it. And this model had the uv map Issue. It was the only variant I tried, |
| 20:42.14 | sc2println | can you explain further what you mean with "it said it doesn't get about uv." |
| 20:42.32 | Zolden | yea, sec |
| 20:43.36 | twodie | btw anyone have a clue why PS is not in open with section, and when choosing the program in custom directory it still deosnt includes PS in open with |
| 20:44.18 | Zolden | sc2println: http://snag.gy/CcOBy.jpg |
| 20:51.20 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: |
| 20:51.24 | Taintedwisp | ? |
| 20:51.33 | Zolden | created a glow |
| 20:51.40 | Taintedwisp | nice |
| 20:51.41 | Zolden | it's still particle, but you may like it |
| 20:51.45 | sc2println | btw. thanks for the log |
| 20:51.45 | Taintedwisp | is it team colored? |
| 20:51.51 | Zolden | yea |
| 20:53.43 | sc2println | Zolden: can you send me the model via email? |
| 20:54.00 | sc2println | the 3ds max exportet version |
| 20:54.05 | sc2println | so that I can reproduce the import issue |
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| 20:54.56 | Zolden | yea |
| 20:56.48 | sc2println | thanks |
| 20:57.00 | Zolden | sent |
| 21:00.06 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/35/494/particle.rar |
| 21:04.45 | Taintedwisp | Zolden I'm in the middle of something and I cant close to import the model you have a picture? |
| 21:05.41 | Zolden | just try it when you can and show me a screen how it look, and tell me what would you change |
| 21:05.57 | Taintedwisp | ok |
| 21:06.42 | Zolden | I use this particle here: it's the spheric glow thing at the bottom of the column of teamcolored light http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/35/341/holy_arc_2.jpg |
| 21:10.22 | Taintedwisp | the problem is, if its a sphere then when I resize it, it will auto go up on the Z axis as well, I need more of an oval https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQfzq7lQmGw9j5R1eKjc807x1LYzSyQY3TPfijPRXjTPK2B-F2F |
| 21:11.06 | Taintedwisp | that model is just giving me an error |
| 21:11.11 | Taintedwisp | it wont load at all |
| 21:11.27 | Zolden | error? |
| 21:11.40 | Zolden | when you import? |
| 21:11.51 | Zolden | i can make it be more ovalic btw |
| 21:11.52 | Taintedwisp | when I go to place the model |
| 21:12.00 | Zolden | but in the particle parameters |
| 21:12.05 | Triceron | those tc glows are pretty cool |
| 21:12.17 | Zolden | ty :) |
| 21:12.25 | Taintedwisp | yea It wont let me place it zolden |
| 21:12.35 | Zolden | i spent like 5 hours of experiumenting to make em work ;/ |
| 21:13.01 | Zolden | so, you imported it ok? does cutscene editor show it? |
| 21:13.02 | Taintedwisp | Wait there it goes |
| 21:13.06 | Zolden | texture must be in root btw |
| 21:13.19 | Zolden | ok, i'll go eat, be back in 20 minutes |
| 21:13.56 | Taintedwisp | ok |
| 21:15.09 | Taintedwisp | Yeah I would need it much flat-er but it does look pretty good |
| 21:15.45 | Taintedwisp | I like the way it flickers :D |
| 21:17.06 | Taintedwisp | oops |
| 21:17.37 | Taintedwisp | http://i.imgur.com/U3ae2JB.jpg |
| 21:18.18 | Taintedwisp | I would need the Z axis much lower though but retain the rest |
| 21:18.40 | Taintedwisp | if the X and Y is at 1,1 I would need the Z at like .1 or .05 |
| 21:25.01 | sc2println | Zolden: Is there a functionally called "Remove Doubles" in 3ds max? |
| 21:25.08 | sc2println | you could try it on the model |
| 21:25.15 | sc2println | I think then it should be importable in blender |
| 21:25.37 | sc2println | the issue seems to come from non triangles in the shape of a line and point |
| 21:25.54 | Taintedwisp | Hey is there a way to Set tint to ALL units with a certain buff without going through every unit in my map(theres over 45)\ |
| 21:28.50 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: ok, gimme a few minutes |
| 21:28.55 | Taintedwisp | kk |
| 21:28.58 | Zolden | sc2println: hmm, i'll ask |
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| 21:29.51 | Zolden | sc2println: Can it happen because I used Weld on multiple points on uv map? |
| 21:32.15 | Ahli | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7788739133?page=6#104 |
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| 21:35.49 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/35/500/team_colored_particle.m3 |
| 21:36.09 | Daara | zolden? |
| 21:36.24 | sc2println | Zolden is the mesh supposed to have just one leg? |
| 21:36.34 | ErikI | http://i.imgur.com/9qTBAfY.jpg, does anyone else find debugging with fruit extremely pleasing? :) |
| 21:37.00 | Zolden | sc2println: yea |
| 21:37.03 | Zolden | and arm |
| 21:37.10 | Zolden | will mirror after skinning |
| 21:37.49 | Zolden | Daara? |
| 21:38.46 | ErikI | sc2println, I assume you're pretty good at Blender? |
| 21:39.28 | sc2println | sc2println: I never made any good model, I just learn what I need to make my m3addon :) |
| 21:39.36 | ErikI | Do you know if there's an easy way to bend a model in Blender? I would like to bend a straight conveyor belt into a curved conveyor belt |
| 21:39.44 | ErikI | Oh, okay |
| 21:40.26 | sc2println | Well you could try an array modifier |
| 21:41.23 | sc2println | Eriki: You might want to watch this tutorial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRElU2E_5Dg |
| 21:41.25 | duckies | thanks ahli for the link, good to know that I can statisfy my inner whore after all :D |
| 21:41.45 | ErikI | Ah, thank you. I'll check it out :) |
| 21:43.31 | Taintedwisp | k checking now |
| 21:43.44 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: try to apply this particle to hero's origin attachment, how will it look? |
| 21:43.52 | Taintedwisp | ok 1 sec |
| 21:44.30 | Zolden | i can remove the white and leave only team color, i can make it generate particles faster |
| 21:44.55 | Zolden | i can change the area particles spread within and can change particles' size |
| 21:44.59 | Zolden | jsut tell me what to change |
| 21:47.31 | sc2println | Eriki: and maybe the Mesh Deform modifer does what you want: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXmgwRq0Zrc |
| 21:47.34 | sc2println | too |
| 21:47.48 | Taintedwisp | Zodlen they are acting like they are 2d |
| 21:49.04 | sc2println | Zolden: I fixed the issue |
| 21:49.13 | Zolden | lol |
| 21:49.16 | Zolden | how? |
| 21:49.32 | sc2println | I made the importer ignore triangles in the shape of points and lines |
| 21:49.35 | Zolden | who would ever doubt your m3addon fixing abilities |
| 21:49.55 | Zolden | alright, i'll try the new version, updated it? |
| 21:50.00 | sc2println | sure |
| 21:50.14 | sc2println | I just need to enter one command to publish it |
| 21:50.30 | Zolden | ok |
| 21:50.51 | Taintedwisp | ZOLDEN http://i.imgur.com/06Y5zZi.jpg |
| 21:50.52 | ErikI | sc2println, do you have some recommendations on places to find good blender tutorials? |
| 21:50.55 | Taintedwisp | sorry for caps |
| 21:51.07 | Taintedwisp | I need the Z flat and the X,Y round :P |
| 21:51.33 | Taintedwisp | in the editor these just look like 2d images following the camera |
| 21:52.40 | Taintedwisp | Zolden heres a top view http://i.imgur.com/ifZZJcq.jpg |
| 21:53.56 | Taintedwisp | ITs those straight lines where its cutting into the terrain : |
| 21:53.59 | Taintedwisp | :( |
| 21:54.37 | Taintedwisp | yo zolden could you make it in a rounded Cylender? thats pretty flat? |
| 21:54.42 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: try to use locall offset actor after attach origin, and have z = 0.3 for that offset |
| 21:55.08 | Zolden | yeah, i'll try, jsut do waht i said, curious how will it look |
| 21:56.09 | Taintedwisp | yeah I could lift them off the ground if the Z was a lot lower :P |
| 21:56.43 | Taintedwisp | Z on the model |
| 21:58.19 | sc2println | the first link I posted is a series |
| 21:58.30 | sc2println | it was the 3rd |
| 21:58.39 | ErikI | Okay |
| 21:58.41 | sc2println | I liked the second one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4twxrkfVKs |
| 21:59.05 | sc2println | ups |
| 21:59.07 | sc2println | this one: |
| 21:59.08 | sc2println | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4twxrkfVKs |
| 21:59.24 | sc2println | and the first: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecV6pkUNiss |
| 21:59.47 | ErikI | Also, when you're already here |
| 21:59.51 | sc2println | I like how it shows so much stuff in a very short time |
| 22:00.00 | sc2println | only the voice is horrible |
| 22:00.05 | ErikI | I imported the conveyor belt model into blender and removed some parts I didn't want |
| 22:00.07 | sc2println | he used a bad micro |
| 22:00.17 | ErikI | I exported it back but the animations were gone |
| 22:00.40 | ErikI | I watched your tutorial on the animated coin, but there it seems like you just export the model like normal. |
| 22:00.42 | sc2println | hmm without seeing what you did exactly I don't know what you did wrong |
| 22:01.08 | sc2println | Did you add an animation in the "M3 Animation" panel? |
| 22:01.12 | ErikI | I'll try it again without modifying anything and see if it still works |
| 22:01.12 | ErikI | No |
| 22:01.34 | sc2println | hmm |
| 22:01.58 | sc2println | but usually models have already an animation |
| 22:02.03 | sc2println | except for campaign models |
| 22:02.16 | sc2println | they are often static and ahve the animation separatly |
| 22:02.26 | Taintedwisp | any data editors here |
| 22:02.28 | Taintedwisp | ? |
| 22:05.11 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: jsut ask |
| 22:05.37 | ErikI | I'm using the Assets\Doodads\MarSaraConveyorBelt\MarSaraConveyorBelt_00.m3 model |
| 22:05.52 | Taintedwisp | okay, I am lazy, so How do I add an actor to all units a certain buff is on, WITHOUT going through my map and adding events for 90+ units? |
| 22:07.29 | ErikI | It seems like python raises the "Unsupported Model type: Model has more then one division or msec per division" exception. |
| 22:07.37 | ErikI | when I try to import it |
| 22:07.45 | Dustin|Work | Tainted |
| 22:07.57 | Dustin|Work | Make the actor you want |
| 22:08.18 | Taintedwisp | oops |
| 22:08.20 | Taintedwisp | I didnt mean add actor |
| 22:08.23 | Taintedwisp | I ment set tint |
| 22:08.25 | Dustin|Work | give it an event, Behavior.Behaviorname.On, Create |
| 22:08.27 | Taintedwisp | but I will want to add an actor too :P |
| 22:08.59 | Dustin|Work | Not sure about the tint |
| 22:09.05 | Dustin|Work | Thats a little more complicated :P |
| 22:09.10 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:09.22 | Dustin|Work | Well |
| 22:09.30 | Dustin|Work | I wonder if you can use an actor to send an actor message |
| 22:10.01 | Dustin|Work | Event, Behavior.On, Set Tint for unit that the behavior is applied to |
| 22:10.04 | Dustin|Work | Something like that |
| 22:10.38 | ErikI | sc2println, do you know what that error means? |
| 22:11.18 | Zolden | sc2println: hey do you have a european version of hots? |
| 22:11.58 | Taintedwisp | Stupid question |
| 22:12.05 | Taintedwisp | How do I make a channeled ability? |
| 22:13.12 | sc2println | Eriki: Yes, I know what the error means |
| 22:13.25 | sc2println | Zolden: Yes, I think so |
| 22:13.48 | sc2println | since I could connect only to the europe servers |
| 22:13.56 | Zolden | culd you do me a favor and perform a little experiment? |
| 22:14.08 | sc2println | What do you want me to do? |
| 22:14.17 | Zolden | do you use german language? |
| 22:14.49 | Zolden | i mean your hots editor is on german or english? |
| 22:14.49 | sc2println | ErikI: I will have a look at the model another day, can you create a forum post about it or an entry in the m3addon issue tracker? |
| 22:15.23 | ErikI | I'll create a forum post about it |
| 22:15.31 | ErikI | Where do you want me to put it? In what forum? |
| 22:15.45 | Zolden | in the art shit |
| 22:15.54 | sc2println | sc2mapster :) |
| 22:15.57 | Zolden | artist tavern |
| 22:16.08 | sc2println | about the rest I don't care |
| 22:19.40 | Zolden | sc2println: is your hots editor on english or german language? |
| 22:21.22 | sc2println | Zolden: english of course :) |
| 22:21.30 | Zolden | good |
| 22:21.43 | Zolden | and what about hots editor? english too? |
| 22:21.47 | Zolden | oops |
| 22:21.49 | Zolden | i mean wol |
| 22:21.55 | sc2println | sure |
| 22:22.28 | Zolden | so, you had just normal european client, and there you set english language? |
| 22:22.57 | sc2println | I think I selected it at the download page |
| 22:22.59 | ErikI | sc2println, it doesn't seem to raise the exception everytime I import it... However, it kind of scales different parts wrong so it doesn't look like it does in-game. |
| 22:23.04 | ErikI | http://i.snag.gy/36TBq.jpg |
| 22:23.09 | Zolden | sc2println: ok, ty |
| 22:27.49 | Zolden | ErikI: waht is it? penis enlargement machine? |
| 22:28.13 | ErikI | It's a conveyor belt ^^ |
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| 22:29.12 | ErikI | At the ends of the conveyor belts, there's supposed to be some kind of cover(which you can see on the left side) but on the right side, it's inside the conveyor belt instead of at the end |
| 22:29.54 | ErikI | So if I just export the conveyor belt from the SC2 editor(where the covers are both placed correctly) and import it into blender and then export it right back to the SC2 editor, the covers will be messed up |
| 22:32.02 | Zolden | what if you import/export to max? |
| 22:32.08 | Zolden | will it mess the thing up? |
| 22:32.19 | ErikI | I don't have max unfortunately |
| 22:32.33 | sc2println | Eriki: Scale issue is fixed now |
| 22:32.48 | sc2println | It was a recent regression due to an recent experiment of mine |
| 22:33.08 | sc2println | The animations don't get imported since the import process aborts |
| 22:33.17 | ErikI | Oh |
| 22:33.25 | ErikI | So if I update, all my issues should be fixed? |
| 22:33.32 | sc2println | no |
| 22:33.37 | sc2println | the other issue |
| 22:33.46 | sc2println | with the exception you get at import |
| 22:34.07 | ErikI | the python exception issue is still there? |
| 22:34.10 | sc2println | is due to a check if the model contains just one bounding |
| 22:34.34 | ErikI | Could it be that I imported the model twice? |
| 22:34.39 | sc2println | the boundigns information are used by Starcraft 2 to calculate shadows |
| 22:34.45 | sc2println | no |
| 22:34.52 | sc2println | the model actually contains the data twice |
| 22:34.54 | sc2println | I checked it |
| 22:35.14 | Dustin|Work | Who is this sc2println guy! |
| 22:36.04 | sc2println | my forum nick is println |
| 22:36.13 | ErikI | Okay, but if I update the worst stuff should at least be gone? The exception doesn't seem to occur very often and it doesnt seem to affect me when it does occur. |
| 22:36.23 | sc2println | it will occur always |
| 22:36.26 | sc2println | the problem is |
| 22:36.31 | sc2println | that the model contains 5 |
| 22:36.36 | sc2println | boundings information |
| 22:36.47 | sc2println | and blender can just store 1... |
| 22:36.52 | Zolden | Dustin|Work: sc2println is the author of m3addon |
| 22:37.05 | Zolden | for blender |
| 22:37.06 | sc2println | yet... |
| 22:37.11 | ErikI | The conveyor model specifically contains 5 boundings? |
| 22:37.18 | ErikI | While most model just contains one? |
| 22:37.20 | ErikI | I should really set up git for this addon. I have it for other stuff but for this addon I just downloaded it manually. |
| 22:37.25 | sc2println | exactly |
| 22:37.29 | ErikI | Okay |
| 22:37.50 | sc2println | I can add a quick work around if you want |
| 22:37.51 | ErikI | Does the fact that blender can't handle all of them affect me in any way? |
| 22:37.56 | sc2println | which makes it just import the first msec |
| 22:37.58 | ErikI | except throwing exceptions |
| 22:38.01 | sc2println | but you will loose information |
| 22:38.03 | sc2println | at import |
| 22:38.24 | sc2println | only 1 of 5 parts of the modwl will cast shadows then |
| 22:38.27 | ErikI | ah |
| 22:38.41 | ErikI | I don't care about the shadows really |
| 22:39.11 | sc2println | if I want I add for you the fix, but please create a forum post or issue report for it |
| 22:39.19 | sc2println | the quick fix I mean |
| 22:39.33 | Dustin|Work | Ahhhh |
| 22:39.34 | sc2println | the proper fix I won't due tonight |
| 22:39.38 | sc2println | it's late for me... |
| 22:39.50 | ErikI | It's okay |
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| 22:40.04 | ErikI | I guess a proper fix would involve merging them somehow? If that's at all possible. |
| 22:40.45 | sc2println | I will change the M3 Boundings panel to show a list |
| 22:40.58 | sc2println | no conversion of old data will be done |
| 22:41.09 | ErikI | Okay |
| 22:41.16 | ErikI | I'll create a forum post in Artist tavern |
| 22:41.40 | sc2println | it's possible however to export it to m3 first and then back into Blender |
| 22:41.43 | sc2println | to work around it |
| 22:41.55 | sc2println | to convert it from new to old format I mean |
| 22:42.41 | ErikI | Or I guess it might be easier to just create a new issue on github |
| 22:42.54 | ErikI | I've never done that before, but I guess it's as easy as pressing "New issue" and explaining it? |
| 22:45.35 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: Tried to use a cylinder as particle plane, but it didn't look any better |
| 22:45.58 | Taintedwisp | damn alrigth |
| 22:46.33 | sc2println | Eriki: Yes it is |
| 22:46.55 | ErikI | https://github.com/flo/m3addon/issues/7 |
| 22:46.57 | ErikI | Like that? |
| 22:48.18 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: still experimentin |
| 22:48.22 | ErikI | Also, it seems like it still stretches the belt weirdly |
| 22:48.44 | Taintedwisp | kk |
| 22:48.52 | ErikI | http://snag.gy/vcJ6F.jpg |
| 22:49.05 | sc2println | Eriki: yep |
| 22:49.24 | sc2println | I also replied already :) |
| 22:50.12 | ErikI | Is the fix for the stretching not implemented yet or am I doing something wrong? |
| 22:50.28 | ErikI | I guess I could just take the night off and learn some general blender instead of bothering you with all this stuff. |
| 22:50.53 | sc2println | fix for stretching? |
| 22:51.38 | Taintedwisp | How do I make a persistant cancel on movement |
| 22:51.39 | Taintedwisp | ? |
| 22:51.52 | ErikI | http://snag.gy/vcJ6F.jpg |
| 22:52.07 | ErikI | Where the cover on the right is inside the conveyor belt instead of at the right end |
| 22:52.25 | ErikI | I thought it was due to this: |
| 22:52.26 | ErikI | <sc2println> Eriki: Scale issue is fixed now |
| 22:52.26 | ErikI | <sc2println> It was a recent regression due to an recent experiment of mine |
| 22:52.26 | ErikI | <sc2println> The animations don't get imported since the import process aborts |
| 22:52.59 | sc2println | Eriki: There is a scale value which gets imported just as number right now |
| 22:53.03 | sc2println | without a visualization |
| 22:53.12 | sc2println | it should export correctly |
| 22:53.19 | sc2println | while it looks strange within Blender |
| 22:53.28 | sc2println | you can find the value in the bone tab |
| 22:53.34 | sc2println | when you select a pose bone |
| 22:55.00 | ErikI | The M3 bone properties in the bone tab is empty for me |
| 22:55.11 | sc2println | you need to be in pose mode |
| 22:55.38 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: try this and tell me what you think http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/35/503/team_colored_particle.m3 |
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| 22:57.40 | Taintedwisp | Still a bit tall zolden I need it to be about half that |
| 22:58.00 | Triceron | can't you scale it in data? |
| 22:58.09 | Triceron | you have x y z control |
| 22:58.27 | Taintedwisp | Cant scale particles |
| 22:58.33 | Taintedwisp | They have to be scaled evenly |
| 22:58.46 | Triceron | oh, they're particles |
| 22:58.46 | Taintedwisp | so x =y y=z z= x at all times no matter what |
| 22:58.48 | sc2println | Eriki: I never found the motivation to implemented a visualization of that scale since no one needed it |
| 22:59.03 | ErikI | Okay, I found the pose mode and the bones and the bone tab which has scale sliders |
| 22:59.06 | Zolden | Triceron: they only get scaled along all 3 axises |
| 22:59.12 | ErikI | so I can scale different bones |
| 22:59.17 | ErikI | which seems to work |
| 22:59.18 | sc2println | well |
| 22:59.27 | sc2println | those M3 Bone properties scales |
| 22:59.38 | sc2println | which are called unapplied scale |
| 22:59.48 | sc2println | are scale values which need to be applied to the mesh I think |
| 22:59.49 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: ok, I can make em more flat |
| 22:59.58 | sc2println | as part of a import process |
| 23:00.10 | Taintedwisp | flat as in Z axis |
| 23:00.11 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 23:00.18 | sc2println | since there is no 1:1 equivalent for it in Blender |
| 23:00.19 | Taintedwisp | the X and Y must still be roundish :P |
| 23:00.28 | sc2println | if you make however a model in Blender |
| 23:00.36 | sc2println | you should not use that unapplied scale value |
| 23:00.42 | sc2println | but instead scale eitehr your mesh in edit mode |
| 23:00.55 | sc2println | or use the bone scale in pose mode |
| 23:01.00 | sc2println | which can be animated |
| 23:01.20 | ErikI | So, let me see if I get this right. This model contains different parts with different scales and your exporter doesn't visualize this scale properly because it's almost never needed? (Maybe because most models dont have different parts like this?) |
| 23:01.33 | sc2println | yes |
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| 23:01.56 | sc2println | In Blender the bones in edit mode |
| 23:02.03 | sc2println | have a tail and a head |
| 23:02.08 | sc2println | and a roll value |
| 23:02.24 | sc2println | which specify a base rotation and position |
| 23:02.35 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: top view http://snag.gy/4qFyL.jpg |
| 23:02.37 | sc2println | but they can not specify a scale |
| 23:02.43 | sc2println | which seems to be possible in Max |
| 23:02.48 | Zolden | and side view http://snag.gy/2T28j.jpg |
| 23:02.52 | sc2println | in pose mode the bones |
| 23:03.02 | sc2println | have a rotation, scale and location |
| 23:03.03 | Zolden | something like this? |
| 23:03.16 | sc2println | all 3 values can be animated |
| 23:03.21 | Taintedwisp | okay but when I resize the Z gets WAY too big :P |
| 23:03.28 | Taintedwisp | it goes like half way up the unit :P |
| 23:03.37 | Taintedwisp | when I need it to go about half way up to the knees |
| 23:03.38 | sc2println | There is no reason to scale in edit mode |
| 23:03.43 | sc2println | when you make a new model |
| 23:04.15 | sc2println | Eriki: I have to go now |
| 23:04.17 | ErikI | Do I have to do something after modifying the bone scale before I export it? |
| 23:04.20 | sc2println | any last question? |
| 23:04.43 | sc2println | Eriki: no |
| 23:04.56 | ErikI | Because I tried rescaling it to look proper and then exporting it but it was still weird when I imported it into the editor |
| 23:04.56 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: just try this new version and show screens how it look like http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/35/504/team_colored_particle.m3 |
| 23:05.02 | Zolden | don' forget to restart the editor after you import it |
| 23:05.08 | Triceron | is that for hero glow? |
| 23:05.13 | Zolden | Triceron: yea |
| 23:05.42 | Zolden | I've tried to make s splat teamcolored, but failed, baybe its' not possible, we'll see will art tools make it |
| 23:05.56 | Taintedwisp | Zolden isnt that the same as the last one? |
| 23:06.03 | Triceron | whoa, it's so weird seeing russian in the editor |
| 23:06.21 | Zolden | restarted the editor? |
| 23:06.37 | Zolden | Triceron: :) yea |
| 23:06.46 | Zolden | as weired as seing german |
| 23:07.00 | Taintedwisp | http://i.imgur.com/7XAA19h.jpg |
| 23:07.02 | Zolden | but translation is aweful, I'll switch to english |
| 23:07.03 | Taintedwisp | See zolden? |
| 23:07.14 | Triceron | but i guess that's like how using the data editor is like for me anyways :P |
| 23:07.19 | Taintedwisp | I need it to be about half that |
| 23:07.37 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: now try to reduce its scale, how will it look |
| 23:07.48 | Triceron | you sure you using the right version tainted? |
| 23:07.51 | Zolden | rediuce scal twice |
| 23:08.11 | Triceron | his screenshotw ith the zerglign the particles don't seem as pronounced |
| 23:10.04 | Triceron | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JwS5t2SLsDo |
| 23:10.04 | ErikI | Okay, then I'm doing something else wrong. I might just make a conveyor belt from scratch instead :) |
| 23:10.04 | sc2println | have you tried a 1:1 export/import |
| 23:10.04 | sc2println | ? |
| 23:10.05 | ErikI | I just used quick export |
| 23:10.05 | ErikI | I don't know what 1:1 means |
| 23:10.06 | sc2println | one to one |
| 23:10.06 | sc2println | e.g. without modifiation |
| 23:10.06 | sc2println | I tried it |
| 23:10.06 | ErikI | How do I do it? |
| 23:10.06 | sc2println | the result is not the same |
| 23:10.06 | sc2println | well just import it in blender and export it again |
| 23:10.06 | ErikI | Okay |
| 23:10.07 | sc2println | Eriki: for now I suggest that you reset all that unapplied scale values to |
| 23:10.07 | sc2println | 1 1 1 |
| 23:10.07 | ErikI | So you're also getting different results when you just import and export directly? |
| 23:10.07 | ErikI | Okay |
| 23:10.07 | sc2println | and then scale the bones in pose mode |
| 23:10.07 | sc2println | to proper size |
| 23:10.07 | ErikI | I'll do some experimenting. Thanks for all the help and good night ^^ |
| 23:10.07 | sc2println | or edit the meshes directly |
| 23:10.07 | sc2println | you are welcome |
| 23:11.19 | Taintedwisp | Zolden it made no difference, I still need it that big, I just need the Z axis smaller |
| 23:12.14 | Zolden | Triceron: I wish we could change that kerrigan's skin to no suit |
| 23:12.26 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: ok |
| 23:12.29 | Triceron | haha |
| 23:12.46 | Triceron | You'll have to complete the game in under an hour ;) |
| 23:14.30 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/35/505/team_colored_particle.m3 |
| 23:19.26 | Taintedwisp | 2 problems zolden :P |
| 23:19.33 | Taintedwisp | 1 The particles are VERY spread out |
| 23:19.37 | Taintedwisp | and 2 they are in a square :P |
| 23:20.34 | Taintedwisp | http://i.snag.gy/HXTtx.jpg |
| 23:20.37 | Taintedwisp | see ? |
| 23:20.47 | Taintedwisp | The height is good though |
| 23:20.53 | Taintedwisp | but I would like the particles to be more compressed |
| 23:21.01 | Taintedwisp | and circular |
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| 23:31.25 | Fate | can i add behaviors or effects with an actor? |
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| 23:34.38 | Taintedwisp | Hey anyone here who knows a good amount about validator |
| 23:35.23 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: ok, i'll try |
| 23:35.59 | Taintedwisp | I need to make a validator for unit not moving... or if you can tell me a way to make the effects of an ability cancel when a unit moves... |
| 23:36.21 | Zolden | validator of unit not moving is easy |
| 23:36.25 | Zolden | lemme check |
| 23:38.06 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: its type is UnitOrderQueue |
| 23:38.21 | Zolden | ability -> Move |
| 23:39.51 | Taintedwisp | okay but its not comparing |
| 23:40.00 | Taintedwisp | by logic that would mean it only fires while the unit is moving |
| 23:40.55 | Zolden | yea |
| 23:41.23 | Zolden | if you need not moving, use combine validator |
| 23:41.25 | Taintedwisp | I need it so the ability cancels on movement |
| 23:42.01 | Zolden | persistent, right? |
| 23:42.11 | Zolden | do you want it to stop its periods? |
| 23:42.14 | Taintedwisp | yeah I guess |
| 23:42.31 | Zolden | then you need a combine validator as a periodic validator |
| 23:42.55 | Zolden | and combine validator must have that UnitOrederQueue validator in it |
| 23:43.11 | Taintedwisp | I really dont understand... |
| 23:43.12 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 23:43.26 | Zolden | have you created the UnitOrderQueue validator? |
| 23:43.53 | Taintedwisp | theres already a notmoving(unamed) |
| 23:43.57 | Taintedwisp | could I use that one? |
| 23:45.11 | Zolden | Is its type = Combine? |
| 23:53.03 | JademusSreg | needs to scratch the itch. |
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| 23:53.34 | Zolden | needs to fake the lake |
| 23:53.52 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 23:54.12 | JademusSreg | Is that slang or is it a technical issue? =D |
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| 23:55.07 | egod | HEY GUYS |
| 23:55.11 | egod | diablo fans? |
| 23:55.15 | Zolden | it's a random absurdual shit |
| 23:55.20 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 23:55.21 | egod | check Act6 deleted scene now live! |
| 23:55.23 | egod | http://fr-ca.twitch.tv/egod123 |
| 23:56.01 | JademusSreg | expects troll. |
| 23:56.43 | JademusSreg | But hey, so long as where's making shit up... |
| 23:57.15 | Zolden | egod, why u no kill monsters? |
| 23:57.25 | egod | there is nbo monster |
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| 23:57.41 | Fate | is there a way to add an behavior of an effect to a unit AFTER it is builded? |
| 23:57.57 | Fate | *or an effect |
| 23:59.19 | JademusSreg | Diablo merges with Ner'Zhul and Kerrigan and becomes Super Ultra Mega Final Form One-Winged Angelic MAster Class God Boss. This is Starworld of Diablo War. |
| 23:59.43 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: faild to make it circular |
