IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20130128

`00:08.56`	`Zolden`	`nice`
`00:18.14`	`Taintedwisp`	`so QueenG what did you think?`
`00:19.36`	`Taintedwisp`	`ALL OUT OF FEELING!!!`
`00:24.46`	`*** part/#sc2mapster Ahli (~asdaaaaa@dslb-092-073-214-108.pools.arcor-ip.net)`
`00:32.18`	`*** join/#sc2mapster TheSkunk__ (~TheSkunk_@70-100-206-46.dsl2.nor.ny.frontiernet.net)`
`00:38.31`	`Taintedwisp`	`There removed the Busieness :P`
`00:39.40`	`Zolden`	`Taintedwisp: think i added you`
`00:39.46`	`Taintedwisp`	`kk zolden`
`00:39.53`	`Zolden`	`wanna play my cool mod?`
`00:39.54`	`Taintedwisp`	`Yo ZOlden are you on WoL NA servers/`
`00:39.57`	`Zolden`	`rise of legends`
`00:40.02`	`Zolden`	`yera`
`00:40.04`	`Zolden`	`yea`
`00:40.08`	`Taintedwisp`	`sure ill be on in a sec`
`00:40.22`	`Zolden`	`just try it alone, it has a nice survival singleplayer`
`00:40.25`	`Zolden`	`to learn shit`
`00:41.11`	`Taintedwisp`	`send invite :P`
`00:43.07`	`Taintedwisp`	`actually nvm`
`00:43.14`	`Taintedwisp`	`I wanna work on my map for a few hours`
`00:47.45`	`Zolden`	`good decision`
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`00:55.05`	`duckies`	`I think I remember reading somewhere that we can pass array as parameters to functions, but I can't seem to be able to do so in Wol GUI trigger editor, is that fearute available in hots or it's just for galaxy? :s`
`00:55.27`	`Deaod`	`galaxy only in WoL`
`00:55.37`	`Deaod`	`maybe theyll add that in HotS`
`00:55.39`	`Deaod`	`idk`
`00:55.43`	`duckies`	`aaw`
`00:55.57`	`nooblark`	`wow, that would help so much. lol`
`00:55.58`	`duckies`	`well, I guess I'll use global array then >:/`
`00:57.19`	`nooblark`	`what music should i listen to...`
`00:57.44`	`nooblark`	`mmm some metalica :)`
`00:58.18`	`duckies`	`listen to the lovely symphony of madness that plays deep withing the corner of your mind, bwahahah >:D`
`00:58.37`	`Zolden`	`listen fucking bach`
`00:59.03`	`duckies`	`eh, I tried to open hots editor but it decided to download 3gb dependency update.. =/`
`00:59.21`	`nooblark`	`i been listening to soothing piano yesterday`
`01:00.12`	`duckies`	`I just listen to ghost in the shell OST when I got nothing to do`
`01:11.33`	`Triceron`	`dubstep it up`
`01:12.00`	`Triceron`	`I love the opening to SAC`
`01:12.32`	`Triceron`	`Yoko Kanno is so amazing`
`01:13.35`	`duckies`	`very true`
`01:14.17`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Kubi (4a247954@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.36.121.84)`
`01:14.23`	`Kubi`	`YOLO`
`01:14.34`	`Kubi`	`Why am I downloading a 391mb patch on my beta editor`
`01:16.56`	`Taintedwisp`	`BEcause a major patch was 4 days ago`
`01:17.25`	`Kubi`	`I am afraid to download it`
`01:17.25`	`Taintedwisp`	`http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/8528971/StarCraft_II_Heart_of_the_Swarm_Beta_Patch_203-1_24_2013`
`01:17.33`	`Kubi`	`because it may make my game a starter edition`
`01:17.48`	`Kubi`	`Watch With Others - This feature allows you to watch replays in sync with other players on Battle.net.`
`01:17.51`	`Kubi`	`OH DAYUM SON`
`01:18.13`	`Taintedwisp`	`lawl`
`01:20.16`	`Kubi`	`Take Command - This feature allows you or your group to take control of selected player armies while watching a replay.`
`01:20.18`	`nooblark`	`REALLY?`
`01:20.27`	`nooblark`	`i been waiting for the shared replay for 2 years.`
`01:21.09`	`Kubi`	`Any`
`01:21.10`	`Kubi`	`one`
`01:21.37`	`Kubi`	`Is there any changes to the editors`
`01:21.48`	`Kubi`	`I always get horny after a new patch gets introduced with new features`
`01:24.41`	`Triceron`	`has anyone been watching HOTS games at all?`
`01:24.52`	`Triceron`	`I wanna know what Terran's answer to tempests are`
`01:25.14`	`Taintedwisp`	`Vikings`
`01:25.14`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`01:25.24`	`Taintedwisp`	`Viking stimrines do it just fine`
`01:25.35`	`Taintedwisp`	`Stim rines as meat shields then vikings`
`01:28.46`	`Kubi`	`With terran`
`01:28.55`	`Kubi`	`Marines with Stim is the answer to everything`
`01:31.16`	`Triceron`	`phoenix got a boost in HOTS too right?`
`01:31.49`	`Triceron`	`I think their range was boosted?`
`01:36.34`	`Kubi`	`OH GOD DAMN IT`
`01:36.44`	`Kubi`	`I have to redownload 8.07GB of starcraft 2 beta now`
`01:52.08`	`Kubi`	`thats right`
`01:52.09`	`Kubi`	`rage quit`
`02:01.34`	`Taintedwisp`	`UHG... I could REALLY use some help with heroes, anyone available who would like to finish these heroes for me....`
`02:01.56`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`I dont like Finnish heroes`
`02:03.14`	`Taintedwisp`	`Fine would anyone like to Complete these heroes?`
`02:12.32`	`nooblark`	`who wants to answer a stupid ass question`
`02:13.32`	`nooblark`	`why does blizzard have two functions that do the same thing, and which is better to use? (Duration of Timer or Reamaining Time on Timer)`
`02:15.26`	`Taintedwisp`	`Because your a whore`
`02:15.38`	`Taintedwisp`	`Nooblark you should do a bit of triggerin for me :P`
`02:16.17`	`nooblark`	`like what`
`02:16.25`	`nooblark`	`i like complex simple triggers.`
`02:16.34`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`02:16.37`	`nooblark`	`anything that is like a vote dialog, i refuse`
`02:16.50`	`Taintedwisp`	`Just events for now, and making them look flashy and cool`
`02:16.58`	`nooblark`	`flashy?`
`02:17.09`	`nooblark`	`i don't do flashy. i do the most simple possible`
`02:17.10`	`Taintedwisp`	`Okay so one is Healing rain it gives all units a buff`
`02:17.24`	`Taintedwisp`	`But theres no visual.. and nothing that says its started or anything`
`02:17.28`	`Taintedwisp`	`so visuals`
`02:17.29`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
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`02:17.46`	`Kubi`	`lol`
`02:17.47`	`Kubi`	`LOL`
`02:17.51`	`Kubi`	`TaintedWisp`
`02:17.52`	`Kubi`	`Your funny`
`02:17.54`	`Triceron`	`man that new medivac boost is so good`
`02:17.58`	`Taintedwisp`	`?`
`02:18.06`	`Taintedwisp`	`why kubi?`
`02:18.07`	`nooblark`	`i know triceron`
`02:18.11`	`nooblark`	`fucking OP as hell.`
`02:18.12`	`Kubi`	`TainedWisp`
`02:18.14`	`Kubi`	`Cant you trigger`
`02:18.19`	`QueenG`	`Sorry Taintedwisp I was occupied with things`
`02:18.20`	`nooblark`	`damn drops are more devasating than ever.`
`02:18.22`	`Taintedwisp`	`no`
`02:18.25`	`Taintedwisp`	`im not a triggerer`
`02:18.26`	`Triceron`	`and they get away`
`02:18.26`	`Kubi`	`lol`
`02:18.38`	`Kubi`	`Triggering is eaaassyy`
`02:18.39`	`nooblark`	`kubi`
`02:18.43`	`nooblark`	`i heard you can't model`
`02:18.46`	`Taintedwisp`	`I suck at triggers, and I am sick of working on heroes`
`02:19.00`	`Taintedwisp`	`I am a data editor :P`
`02:19.11`	`Taintedwisp`	`I have other things I would like to do besides heroes though...`
`02:19.16`	`QueenG`	`when a player is assaulting an enemy CC, they can place their units on the CC defense beacons and prevent that player from making cannons/tanks/etc.`
`02:19.18`	`Taintedwisp`	`but triggers and heroes take priority right now...`
`02:19.26`	`Taintedwisp`	`But I am sooo burnt out on them`
`02:19.29`	`nooblark`	`i also heard all that time at the gym isn't helping because you're still an overweight nerd and not a sexy chick magnet`
`02:19.44`	`Triceron`	`can't you make stuff flashy with data?`
`02:19.59`	`Taintedwisp`	`i cant make triggered things flashy :P`
`02:20.38`	`Kubi`	`QueenG`
`02:20.39`	`Kubi`	`You realize`
`02:20.46`	`Kubi`	`Protoss has photon overcharge`
`02:21.08`	`Triceron`	`i can't wait to get my hands on the new spell effects from HOTS`
`02:21.24`	`QueenG`	`what does photon overcharge do on tainted's evo map?`
`02:21.26`	`Triceron`	`like the freeze effects, kerrigan's electric attacks, etc`
`02:21.36`	`Kubi`	`Put it this way`
`02:21.47`	`Taintedwisp`	`wtf is photon overcharge?`
`02:21.56`	`Kubi`	`I can do everything in the editor.. except modelling because that shit is useless.`
`02:22.12`	`Kubi`	`It's a buff on nexus that gives like 25 damage/13 range from mothership core`
`02:22.12`	`Triceron`	`shut your face Kubi, it's not useless`
`02:22.19`	`Kubi`	`totally is in SC2`
`02:22.27`	`Taintedwisp`	`oh`
`02:22.28`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
`02:22.32`	`Kubi`	`You already have assets in sc2`
`02:22.42`	`Triceron`	`depends on what assets`
`02:22.43`	`nooblark`	`nexus charge is actually pretty wuicked.`
`02:23.03`	`nooblark`	`it stops me from attacking things near nexus for its duration.`
`02:23.08`	`Taintedwisp`	`i just need someone who will help me complete these damn heroes really, my fucking data editor is useless, next time I see him I am telling him hes being replaced.....`
`02:23.09`	`QueenG`	`tainted lets try another round on Polar shift, we can beat that boss if we get at least 2 ppl killing it.`
`02:23.10`	`nooblark`	`in melee.`
`02:23.13`	`Kubi`	`Nexus charge is op`
`02:23.18`	`Kubi`	`people use it offensively`
`02:23.29`	`Taintedwisp`	`alright queenG`
`02:23.34`	`QueenG`	`yay`
`02:23.35`	`Triceron`	`it attacks so fast`
`02:23.38`	`QueenG`	`nooblark, come.`
`02:23.43`	`Kubi`	`Who`
`02:23.44`	`Kubi`	`tainted`
`02:24.07`	`QueenG`	`you too Kubi, we're trying to beat this fast scrolling map`
`02:24.21`	`Kubi`	`im in a raid`
`02:24.24`	`Kubi`	`in wow`
`02:24.50`	`QueenG`	`k`
`02:25.08`	`QueenG`	`Triceron, would you like to join us on the NA server? we're playing a fun map`
`02:25.27`	`Triceron`	`I'm workin on some stuff atm, sorry`
`02:25.42`	`nooblark`	`sorry going to play some hots`
`02:25.49`	`nooblark`	`gotta keep my rank in masters`
`02:25.50`	`nooblark`	`:P`
`02:26.40`	`QueenG`	`come play 1 match please nooblark :)`
`02:26.47`	`QueenG`	`I promise this wil be last time`
`02:27.02`	`nooblark`	`i'll play after`
`02:27.10`	`nooblark`	`friend already called me on skype`
`02:28.27`	`JademusSreg`	`Pew.`
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`02:35.58`	`nooblark`	`should i be lazy and copy and paste my vote, or make it have 3 dimensional arrays? :O`
`02:36.48`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Parthon (~cheeeese@godsta.arach.net.au)`
`02:36.54`	`nooblark`	`i'm leaning towards 3d array`
`02:36.59`	`Taintedwisp`	`JademusSreg, you should TOTALLY come do my few triggers :P\`
`02:37.03`	`nooblark`	`it will make it that much more awesome.`
`02:37.08`	`QueenG`	`grr we almost got it taintedwisp :)`
`02:37.12`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
`02:37.13`	`Taintedwisp`	`No we didn`
`02:37.15`	`Taintedwisp`	`haha`
`02:37.21`	`Taintedwisp`	`Back to mapping`
`02:38.20`	`nooblark`	`i needz a vote`
`02:39.25`	`nooblark`	`meh, 3d array here we go.`
`02:40.35`	`JademusSreg`	`Reduce, reuse, recycle. Be a fuckin planeteer and write generic code so you can copypasta it. =D`
`02:41.41`	`JademusSreg`	`Also, haha, Taint.`
`02:42.45`	`Taintedwisp`	`come on jademus you know you want to`
`02:42.54`	`Taintedwisp`	`< sick of heroes and hates triggers.... haha`
`02:45.22`	`nooblark`	`play hots`
`02:45.27`	`Taintedwisp`	`POOP!!!`
`02:46.24`	`JademusSreg`	`I'd love to work on your project, Taint, but it's just I detest everything about it. =D`
`02:47.05`	`QueenG`	`your self-interest on how the map plays shouldnt be relevant to helping someone with map editing`
`02:47.26`	`JademusSreg`	`Hahaha.`
`02:47.28`	`QueenG`	`tbh i dont like nooblarks map either how its very simple but I support him anyway I can.`
`02:47.32`	`JademusSreg`	`Of course, I'm willing to help.`
`02:47.43`	`QueenG`	`:)`
`02:48.45`	`JademusSreg`	`Rather, I won't do the leg-work for a project unless I have a creative erection for it.`
`02:55.00`	`Triceron`	`are there any good smash tv custom maps?`
`02:55.30`	`Triceron`	`i remember seeing a few projects, but they seemed to die off`
`02:58.31`	`nooblark`	`zzzzz losing because not paying attention`
`02:58.37`	`nooblark`	`sometimes i miss the gold league.`
`02:58.52`	`nooblark`	`i like minimizing too much :P`
`02:59.32`	`JademusSreg`	`Hm.`
`02:59.59`	`JademusSreg`	`Smash TV mechanics look super easy to implement.`
`03:01.26`	`Triceron`	`oh i just feel like playing em, lol`
`03:01.50`	`JademusSreg`	`Getting the style and crunch would be more challenging. Hmmm.`
`03:02.04`	`JademusSreg`	`I remember hearing the term "smash tv" thrown around a while back.`
`03:02.37`	`JademusSreg`	`Dunno if anyone completed an adaptation, though.`
`03:03.06`	`Triceron`	`they were some of my favourite SC1 custom maps, a lot of fun`
`03:03.18`	`JademusSreg`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/smash-tv-2010/`
`03:03.47`	`Triceron`	`yeah those guys just disappeared`
`03:03.59`	`JademusSreg`	`Tends to happen with modders, haha.`
`03:06.48`	`QueenG`	`"in the distant future of 1996, TV became more violent..."`
`03:07.36`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
`03:08.06`	`Taintedwisp`	`No in the distant future of 2002-2013 tv became nothing but a fucking porno, that was too afraid to use violence`
`03:10.11`	`Triceron`	`you're thinking internet not tv`
`03:10.54`	`Taintedwisp`	`no i am thinking internet..`
`03:11.02`	`Taintedwisp`	`FInd one sitcom that isnt 100% about fucking...`
`03:11.13`	`Kubi`	`no your not`
`03:11.13`	`Taintedwisp`	`then find 1 cartoon that will still fight...`
`03:11.16`	`Kubi`	`dont like Tainted`
`03:11.20`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
`03:11.23`	`Kubi`	`lie`
`03:11.24`	`Taintedwisp`	`I ment I am thinking TV`
`03:11.25`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
`03:11.27`	`JademusSreg`	`OH NO - We've Misplaced Our Genitals`
`03:11.30`	`JademusSreg`	`It's on ABC.`
`03:11.44`	`Triceron`	`damn, what have I been missing out on`
`03:11.53`	`Taintedwisp`	`garbage`
`03:11.54`	`Taintedwisp`	`...`
`03:12.16`	`Taintedwisp`	`Go watch 2 and a half men or the big bang theory then go watch married with children... you will see the difference`
`03:12.16`	`Triceron`	`The Gang Bang Theory`
`03:12.29`	`Taintedwisp`	`99% of the time MArried with children isnt talking about sex and its still 100x funnier...`
`03:13.08`	`JademusSreg`	`I would watch ONWMOG, seriously.`
`03:14.18`	`JademusSreg`	`Obviously there would still be interpersonal drama, but it would all be platonic.`
`03:14.52`	`Taintedwisp`	`then go find 1 show that doesnt have to highlight gays...., anyone else notice this? 95% of movies and games have had some kind of gay love scene or gay thing in them lately...`
`03:15.16`	`Taintedwisp`	`thats something I have noticed, and it wont even be related to the story, it will only be in there to support gays...`
`03:15.24`	`JademusSreg`	`Obviously that's because 95% of people are gay.`
`03:15.29`	`JademusSreg`	`<3`
`03:15.31`	`Taintedwisp`	`yeah obviously..`
`03:16.29`	`Taintedwisp`	`I was watching Cloud Atlas the other day, and I was like okay tom hanks, might be good, then It goes to a gay scene, seriously... and im like wtf is the point of this... it had nothing to do with the story what so ever... it was literally there just to point out a characters sexuality..`
`03:16.38`	`Triceron`	`I only play the other 5% of games`
`03:17.05`	`Triceron`	`like Mass Effect. No gayness there`
`03:17.14`	`JademusSreg`	`YMMV`
`03:17.17`	`Taintedwisp`	`yeah NONE what so ever..`
`03:17.24`	`Taintedwisp`	`whats YMMV?`
`03:19.31`	`JademusSreg`	`http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YMMV`
`03:20.52`	`Taintedwisp`	`wow..`
`03:35.49`	`iMisu`	`dialog, progress bar... where did it go`
`03:35.56`	`iMisu`	`IZ IT GAWN ?`
`03:38.54`	`iMisu`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:38.54`	`iMisu`	`broken`
`03:48.16`	`JademusSreg`	`Reminds me of something.`
`03:53.25`	`JademusSreg`	`https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/Images/RelativeAnchorErrors_1.5.jpg`
`03:53.51`	`JademusSreg`	`Shit. That one is unlabeled.`
`03:58.54`	`JademusSreg`	`Anyway, relative anchors have been bugged a long time; not sure if it's been fixed. sin ce 1.5.`
`03:58.59`	`JademusSreg`	`*since`
`04:03.30`	`JademusSreg`	`In fact, less than half of the relative anchors were correct last time we tested.`
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`04:18.57`	`nooblark`	`does triggering player return player int?`
`04:20.57`	`nooblark`	`nvm`
`04:20.58`	`nooblark`	`find it`
`04:28.21`	`iMisu`	`Daara`
`04:28.30`	`Daara`	`misu`
`04:30.02`	`Taintedwisp`	`taintedwis[`
`04:36.04`	`iMisu`	`taintedwisp, could you help nooblark and I with a trigger?`
`04:37.02`	`nooblark`	`daara`
`04:37.12`	`Daara`	`noob`
`04:37.15`	`nooblark`	`misu wants someone to make dialog since mine broke`
`04:37.25`	`nooblark`	`you able to do it? :P`
`04:37.50`	`iMisu`	`the dialog is made`
`04:37.56`	`iMisu`	`the voting for it needs to be made :O`
`04:38.04`	`Daara`	`i'm too busy this week`
`04:38.21`	`Daara`	`i'd help but so busy!`
`04:39.26`	`nooblark`	`i made a new one, somuch better`
`04:39.43`	`nooblark`	`but i wrote it just to test if i fixed all the old issues`
`04:39.56`	`Dustin\|Home`	`guys`
`04:40.00`	`Dustin\|Home`	`what u need`
`04:48.42`	`nooblark`	`for me to not suck big dick`
`04:48.44`	`nooblark`	`can you help?`
`04:49.06`	`iMisu`	`need help with vote trigger`
`04:51.37`	`nooblark`	`I LOVE CHAT COMMANDS.`
`04:51.42`	`nooblark`	`best debuggers EVER`
`05:45.39`	`nooblark`	`anyone around?`
`05:45.53`	`nooblark`	`nevermind`
`05:45.57`	`nooblark`	`solved it already`
`05:45.57`	`nooblark`	`rofl`
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`06:20.06`	`Taintedwisp`	`Sorry for the late reply imisu, but I am no triggerer :P`
`06:20.31`	`iMisu`	`why you get ban ?>`
`06:21.18`	`QueenG`	`Tainted! lets go have another go at it? ill wear the cuffs this time :)`
`06:22.00`	`Vindicator`	`StarTools is being released later this week to selected beta participants!`
`06:22.13`	`iMisu`	`what startool`
`06:23.03`	`Vindicator`	`blizzard's tool they use in-house for doing at least data transfer between 3dsmax and sc2. it might do more, but that alone guarantees full compatibility between the programs now`
`06:24.08`	`iMisu`	`QueenG I didnt see what you said on sc2, i just accidently closed it`
`06:24.31`	`QueenG`	`asked if you wanted to play with me iMisu a fun quick game called: Poler Shift`
`06:25.02`	`iMisu`	`okay in like 3 min ?>`
`06:27.02`	`QueenG`	`k`
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`06:28.23`	`Taintedwisp`	`nah im good quen`
`06:32.45`	`QueenG`	`k taintedwisp`
`06:33.42`	`iMisu`	`okay logging in`
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`09:03.28`	`Taintedwisp`	`It seems like If I am not talking no one is :(`
`09:03.59`	`JademusSreg`	`Hah.`
`09:04.23`	`Taintedwisp`	`Damn quiet people./..`
`09:04.41`	`Taintedwisp`	`You would think they are a bunch of awkward bastards`
`09:05.05`	`JademusSreg`	`Perhaps.`
`09:05.16`	`JademusSreg`	`I expect a number of them are sleeping.`
`09:05.23`	`Taintedwisp`	`Sleep is overrated`
`09:05.53`	`Taintedwisp`	`JademusSreg remember how earlier I said that every fucking show had to have a gay character in it lately...`
`09:05.58`	`Taintedwisp`	`Just watched supernatural....`
`09:06.00`	`Taintedwisp`	`yeah...`
`09:07.03`	`JademusSreg`	`I agree with you. You should lobby to make them pass a law to require it. =D`
`09:08.06`	`JademusSreg`	`Write your local representative, make sure they know you want more awesome intercourse in every configuration! Woo!`
`09:08.18`	`Taintedwisp`	`no, its fucking stupid to only have a gay in a show for the sake of having a gay character in the show...`
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`09:09.58`	`JademusSreg`	`I'd make more jokes, but I don't think I can beat faux political movement.,`
`09:10.05`	`Taintedwisp`	`lawl`
`09:10.27`	`Taintedwisp`	`I just think its stupid.... I am sick of entertainment trying to shove it down my damn throat....`
`09:10.43`	`JademusSreg`	`laughs at the mental image.`
`09:10.43`	`Taintedwisp`	`Its 1 thing if its in 1 out of 15-20 shows... but when its every show...`
`09:10.51`	`Taintedwisp`	`....`
`09:11.13`	`Taintedwisp`	`Gunna watch Arrow now and hope there isnt some spontaneous faggot half way through..`
`09:11.50`	`JademusSreg`	`Dude, better stay away from Jack-In-The-Boxes. =D`
`09:12.21`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol'`
`09:12.40`	`JademusSreg`	`brb`
`09:31.42`	`JademusSreg`	`A few thoughts. (1) If there's a gay character in a story, it's because the story has something to say about it. If a character is whatever ethnicity or nationality, white or purple or whatever, or a robot or a clone or a zombie or a sapient mound of dogshit, that's because the story intends to explore that sort of character.`
`09:33.07`	`JademusSreg`	`(2) If Bruce Willis' character in Die Hard was gay, it wouldn't have made his yippie-ki-ay-motherfucker any less badass. Sexual inclination is pretty fucking irrelevant.`
`09:40.43`	`JademusSreg`	`(3) Sex is a question of who's whats' go wheres. If it's consensual and the components fit, by all means.`
`09:52.24`	`JademusSreg`	`(4) As an ostensibly straight male, you can only benefit from more homosexuals; "more for me", as it were.`
`09:53.54`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`I love you Jade. No homo though`
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`09:54.21`	`JademusSreg`	`(5) Diablo 3 is a masterpiece of disappointment. So much joy, so much sadness.`
`09:54.28`	`JademusSreg`	`Hi thar Shawn. <3`
`09:54.42`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`Does that mean you liked D3?`
`09:54.47`	`Taintedwisp`	`(6) im sick of fucking seeing it every 5 seconds though...`
`09:54.48`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`09:55.15`	`Taintedwisp`	`If its not a romance, and theres no love story, why not leave it up to imagination..`
`09:55.17`	`JademusSreg`	`I like D3; I don't like how little content there is.`
`09:55.31`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`I loved the story.. the first time.. and then was left with nothing but contempt.`
`09:55.33`	`Taintedwisp`	`why take the film to point out, oh and... this guys likes taking it up the ass`
`09:55.57`	`Taintedwisp`	`Yeah D3 is Shit on content`
`09:56.09`	`Taintedwisp`	`But it could be worse, it could be as bad as D2 content wise`
`09:56.15`	`Taintedwisp`	`Diablo 2 had very little content`
`09:56.25`	`Taintedwisp`	`4 hours to beat any difficulty...`
`09:56.27`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`09:56.31`	`JademusSreg`	`Yeah, I played D2 even less than D3.`
`09:56.33`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`And its like saying nigger TW. The more times it happens, the less you'll care`
`09:56.37`	`Taintedwisp`	`and after that it was either play hardcore or do nothbuing`
`09:56.55`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol shawn, I know, but doesnt mean that it doesnt get old...`
`09:57.17`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`You just have to either not watch said thing, or get over it`
`09:57.26`	`Taintedwisp`	`I sure as fuck hope they dont do like they did with D2 and make a 1 act expansions... lol all the retards that actually bought that shit..`
`09:57.30`	`Taintedwisp`	`1 act for 30$...`
`09:57.33`	`Taintedwisp`	`what a rippoff`
`09:57.52`	`Taintedwisp`	`shawn its getting to where I just dont watch it any more...`
`09:58.11`	`Taintedwisp`	`I can get over it if its every now and again..`
`09:58.19`	`Taintedwisp`	`but not when it infest into everthing`
`09:58.30`	`Taintedwisp`	`If Hots has a gay character... I swear I quit Sc2...`
`09:58.51`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`Blizzard doesnt get into person details about the characters`
`09:58.53`	`Taintedwisp`	`so far the only character that has even had a sexuality is raynor..`
`09:58.56`	`Taintedwisp`	`Teag and I am glad..`
`09:58.58`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`One could be gay and you'd never know it`
`09:59.08`	`Taintedwisp`	`thats fine shawn..`
`09:59.26`	`Taintedwisp`	`as long as there isnt some gay thats thrown in there just to throw some bull shit political agenda at me.`
`09:59.32`	`JademusSreg`	`It'll be Swann.`
`09:59.38`	`Taintedwisp`	`lawl`
`09:59.39`	`JademusSreg`	`<3`
`09:59.48`	`Taintedwisp`	`Horner was the only one acting a bit faggotish`
`10:00.11`	`JademusSreg`	`I facepalmed.`
`10:00.15`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`Mengsk son + Horner`
`10:00.18`	`Taintedwisp`	`like I said, ONLY RAYNOR SHOULD HAVE ASEXUALITY AND .`
`10:00.39`	`Taintedwisp`	`And only raynor.. simply because of him + kerrigan being A MAJOR PLOT LINE`
`10:00.46`	`Taintedwisp`	`well raynor and kerrigan :P`
`10:01.21`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`I always wondered if all of her hair turned infested`
`10:01.25`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`Could get interesting`
`10:01.30`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
`10:01.34`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`Cuz it didnt change back`
`10:01.34`	`JademusSreg`	`Ooo lala`
`10:01.42`	`Taintedwisp`	`raynor wakes up and his balls have changed into banelings..`
`10:02.54`	`JademusSreg`	`Badass.`
`10:03.19`	`Taintedwisp`	`this whole gay in entertainment thing wouldn;t be a big deal, IF IT WASNT PUT IN A WAY THAT ITS ONLY THERE FOR THEIR BULLSHIT POLITICS`
`10:03.33`	`Taintedwisp`	`I DONT GIVE A FUCK IF LOKI IS GAY(I am guessing on this one)`
`10:03.55`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol jademusSreg, Raynor tea bags someone with baneling balls...`
`10:04.19`	`Taintedwisp`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTwnwbG9YLE`
`10:05.03`	`JademusSreg`	`I rather doubt the motive is political or even ideological, but rather is included at least for verisimilitude, sort of the same way people of various ethnicities started being included in film and television a couple decades ago.`
`10:05.35`	`Taintedwisp`	`its stupid though...`
`10:05.41`	`Taintedwisp`	`and VERY pointless....`
`10:06.01`	`Taintedwisp`	`I also hate those commercials with 1 white kid 1 black kid 1 mexican kid and 1 asian kid...`
`10:06.06`	`Taintedwisp`	`WTF...`
`10:06.15`	`JademusSreg`	`HAha.`
`10:06.19`	`JademusSreg`	`Sleep time.`
`10:06.32`	`Taintedwisp`	`What black kid is hanging around a mexican an asian and a white kid... where the fuck does this kid live..`
`10:06.53`	`Taintedwisp`	`Desegregation isnt worth a shit, We all just segregate ourselves into groups anyways :P`
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`13:32.42`	`Bommes`	`I always disconnect out of the browser IRC without any warnings or indications`
`13:32.46`	`Bommes`	`it's super confusing`
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`14:32.31`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Msg me when you get this`
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`14:53.22`	`G0A`	`hey twodie, wanna still make the zombie map, now I got some good ideas so I am motivated in doing it`
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`15:03.07`	`twodie`	`:/`
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`15:06.05`	`twodie`	`!!!`
`15:06.46`	`twodie`	`G0A mean while i was playing Zombie maps WC3 versions`
`15:07.00`	`twodie`	`and thinking what really makes these maps so special at gameplay`
`15:07.22`	`G0A`	`and what?`
`15:07.56`	`G0A`	`zombies?:D`
`15:08.01`	`twodie`	`not really`
`15:08.05`	`twodie`	`mostly the gameplay`
`15:08.14`	`G0A`	`its a wall off game:D`
`15:08.38`	`twodie`	`yeah that point kinda maked it look and feel bad`
`15:08.48`	`A1win`	`speaking of zombies http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/01/28/not-built-in-a-day-roam-kickstarter/`
`15:09.06`	`twodie`	`what it really should be more like control of buildings, points`
`15:09.09`	`Dustin\|Work`	`I hated those wc3 zombie maps`
`15:10.00`	`twodie`	`Yeah, played it there and it didnt really shined in my eyes either in gameplay perspective`
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`15:10.38`	`twodie`	`Anyway G0A whats your ideas?`
`15:11.10`	`G0A`	`I will tell bit later`
`15:11.13`	`G0A`	`ingame now:D`
`15:12.13`	`G0A`	`btw what was shiny in the W3 eras zombie map that it was well balanced map even though you had 2 different race against each other`
`15:16.12`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Would you guys Use a website that let you upload a bank file from your map to make an account, then you can direct people on your map to a link to download a client that syncs your bank data to an sql webserver. Then you'd have access to stats for thepeople that use it. I.E. Plays this month, Total Time played, etc. The users who use your service will have the options to see their stats anytime online, they can regenerate a bank`
`15:16.13`	`Dustin\|Work`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:16.39`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Or would you prefer just to have the tools and setup your own server/site but used the toolset provided`
`15:21.06`	`G0A`	`none:)`
`15:21.32`	`G0A`	`btw I know about a project that wanted to do that but they gave up on it`
`15:21.53`	`duckies`	`weren't there 2 projects like that? :O`
`15:21.58`	`Dustin\|Work`	`I already wrote the client once`
`15:21.59`	`G0A`	`And btw you can do toplist anyway. :)`
`15:22.09`	`Dustin\|Work`	`toplist?`
`15:22.22`	`G0A`	`where you track top players`
`15:22.34`	`Dustin\|Work`	`How would you do that`
`15:22.39`	`G0A`	`lol:D`
`15:22.46`	`G0A`	`check my random TD map`
`15:23.01`	`duckies`	`btw, you have bank hackers goa?`
`15:23.02`	`G0A`	`(I really should do a libary from it)`
`15:23.03`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Are you talking about how rodrigo did leaderboards`
`15:23.18`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Just the bank data comparissons on map loads with everyone`
`15:23.21`	`Dustin\|Work`	`?`
`15:23.30`	`G0A`	`none yet duckies. Seems like my maps have civilized players.`
`15:23.42`	`duckies`	`seems so :D`
`15:24.05`	`G0A`	`I gave the idea to rodrigo .)`
`15:24.39`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Yeah, that works kinda, but I'd rather have more live stat tracking :P`
`15:24.55`	`G0A`	`but no one will use your client`
`15:24.58`	`Dustin\|Work`	`This could even been used for melee type maps to track stats`
`15:25.47`	`G0A`	`though top 100 stats now seems small for my maps and syncing bigger top list would take significant time in the game...`
`15:26.34`	`Dustin\|Work`	`I think people will download the client`
`15:26.36`	`Dustin\|Work`	`not everyone`
`15:26.42`	`Dustin\|Work`	`but I've talked to alot of people that would`
`15:26.53`	`G0A`	`well, ultimately blizz should allow server side banks....`
`15:27.37`	`G0A`	`Dustin\|Work I wouldnt. :)`
`15:28.06`	`Dustin\|Work`	`They should yes, but they arnet, so we gotta do it ourselves`
`15:28.28`	`Dustin\|Work`	`You dont have any interest in stat tracking though GOA :P`
`15:28.32`	`Dustin\|Work`	`So I wouldnt expect you too`
`15:28.42`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Client's going to be Open Source`
`15:29.03`	`Dustin\|Work`	`So people can download and compile or use a pre-compiled package as well`
`15:33.34`	`G0A`	`Dustin\|Work hmm, though I would might use it if the client could edit your banks based on the server stats....`
`15:33.47`	`G0A`	`"stats" wouldnt be stats than:D`
`15:34.21`	`G0A`	`and than players of my map would only get the full game if they would use the clent..`
`15:34.25`	`G0A`	`client*`
`15:36.02`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Ya`
`15:36.15`	`Dustin\|Work`	`I played around with Real Time WRiting to the bank`
`15:36.22`	`Dustin\|Work`	`But that doesn't work obviously`
`15:36.40`	`Dustin\|Work`	`But the website will let you generate a new bank based on your data stored there`
`15:47.00`	`G0A`	`thats cool`
`16:07.05`	`G0A`	`what does revive unit actually do?`
`16:07.12`	`G0A`	`(action)`
`16:07.25`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Revives a hero unit`
`16:07.56`	`G0A`	`only hero?`
`16:08.00`	`G0A`	`full hp?`
`16:08.02`	`duckies`	`why hero specifically? doesn't it revive just any reviveable ?`
`16:08.26`	`Dustin\|Work`	`When I tested I wasn't able to revive anything other than a hero`
`16:08.40`	`Dustin\|Work`	`And it revived with 1 hp I think GOA`
`16:08.55`	`duckies`	`yeah, I also remember having to set unit health after revive ;/`
`16:09.15`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Bascially when a hero dies, I hide the unit, pause the unit and move it, then I move it to the respawn point and revive it and unpasue it`
`16:09.54`	`G0A`	`ok than I wont use that shit:D`
`16:10.14`	`Dustin\|Work`	`It's pretty lame`
`16:10.18`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Doesn't work with items well`
`16:10.34`	`Dustin\|Work`	`I had to remove items, store the item at death, then recreate the items in the hero's inv on revive`
`16:11.26`	`G0A`	`btw I am making my most simple map ever:D`
`16:12.01`	`duckies`	`is it the map that auto-wins for everyone at map init? :D`
`16:12.12`	`Dustin\|Work`	`nice :D`
`16:12.40`	`nooblark`	`duckies that was my idea!`
`16:13.21`	`duckies`	`great minds think alike blark >:D`
`16:13.49`	`nooblark`	`I was considering putting it out at one point, called Everyone is a Winner`
`16:14.10`	`nooblark`	`but I was going to set a random timer for when they win. lol.`
`16:15.00`	`G0A`	`duckies soon you can test it with me if you want, but I kind of already spoiled it`
`16:15.39`	`duckies`	`it's that map that never ends isn't it?`
`16:16.26`	`duckies`	`or it's that another map based on fulfilling the promise of world peace and unity`
`16:16.44`	`duckies`	`through obliterating everyone via gazillions of missiles`
`16:18.20`	`G0A`	`its just a 1 trigger in a melee map which adds that each killed unit by your enemy makes it a unit of your enemy.D`
`16:18.47`	`G0A`	`dont know what name should I add for it`
`16:19.08`	`duckies`	`"never die"? :D`
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`16:23.17`	`Dustin\|Work`	`GOA`
`16:23.18`	`Dustin\|Work`	`that's badass`
`16:24.43`	`G0A`	`:)`
`16:25.05`	`G0A`	`all of that zombie stuff forced this idea on me.`
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`16:57.14`	`Otixa`	`herp`
`16:57.30`	`Dustin\|Work`	`derp`
`16:57.35`	`nooblark`	`has anyone used that new dialog maker?`
`16:57.35`	`Otixa`	`herpderp?`
`16:57.45`	`Dustin\|Work`	`I dont think it's working fully noob`
`16:57.56`	`nooblark`	`well misu made a pretty little window last night in it`
`16:58.15`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Hmm`
`16:58.17`	`nooblark`	`are they going to make it triggerable from there too? :O`
`16:58.18`	`Otixa`	`Y U BM him like that???`
`16:58.21`	`Otixa`	`>:CCCCCCCCcc`
`16:58.27`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Last I knew you coulnd't save anything made`
`16:58.40`	`nooblark`	`perhaps`
`16:58.50`	`nooblark`	`she said she was using it to get the dimensions`
`16:59.01`	`nooblark`	`i think she made it, then just copied all the source into triggers`
`16:59.32`	`nooblark`	`btw, i found the root cause to my entire vote system failing..`
`17:00.04`	`nooblark`	`you're going to piss yourself laughing. i check EVERY file, line, and letter in all my triggers/actions BUT ONE`
`17:00.16`	`Dustin\|Work`	`lol`
`17:00.24`	`nooblark`	`sure enough, the error was in there. it would create a dialog and assign it to variable X`
`17:00.29`	`nooblark`	`sounds normal, right?`
`17:00.40`	`nooblark`	`nope. this action would fire everytime someone voted.`
`17:00.52`	`nooblark`	`so every time it went off, it reassigned X to the 'new`
`17:01.00`	`nooblark`	`'new' dialog`
`17:01.23`	`nooblark`	`so when i had the trigger 'hide dialog x', it wouldn't register anyone with a dialog as having X`
`17:01.31`	`nooblark`	`DERP DERP DERPD DERP HERPA DERP DERP`
`17:02.49`	`nooblark`	`i'm going to fix our map so it's playable then try and get an extension on her new vote system.. she wants to combine 3 votes into 1 dialog.. but i don't think she realizes the variables and arrays that need to go into something like that :O`
`17:03.11`	`nooblark`	`especially when they are player/team/global specific :(`
`17:07.21`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Laaame`
`17:08.13`	`nooblark`	`working on making your map harder? :P`
`17:08.46`	`nooblark`	`these are my thoughts to any custom i play, disregard them if you don't want to start an argument if you disagree..`
`17:10.04`	`nooblark`	`any player that is skilled (and melee ladder rank is generally a good indication of), should be able to complete and win any custom within just a few attempts. those attempts consist of learning map, learning abilities, learning the concept, then finally (and for the win) executing`
`17:11.37`	`nooblark`	`whereas a 'bad player', should struggle with every single changing aspect of any custom. ie. wipe on every 'new' thing one to a few times, then have it 'sort of mastered' (like a slow progression). and once the newest 'new' thing is almost mastered, the older ones surely are.`
`17:12.20`	`nooblark`	`if that makes sense.`
`17:12.44`	`Dustin\|Work`	`yup`
`17:14.09`	`nooblark`	`this is where people generally relally hate me`
`17:14.47`	`nooblark`	`if your map is so complicated/confusing/too much shit with no explaination to the point a 'good' player is still confused by the start of the next game, you should delete your map.`
`17:15.57`	`nooblark`	`it's one thing to sit there and look at every damn button until you figure out what does what, it's a whole other thing to click those buttons and do actions, and not realize you screwed something up for a few games`
`17:16.31`	`nooblark`	`that, sir dustin, is why i loved your game :P`
`17:16.55`	`nooblark`	`so fucking simple, so fun. more noobs in the game, the harder it is.. and generally customs are filled with newbs :P`
`17:17.39`	`Dustin\|Work`	`hhe ya`
`17:18.22`	`Dustin\|Work`	`I wanted to make it simple to pick up and play, but with a sense of urgency to kinda figure out some more advanced strats`
`17:18.53`	`nooblark`	`it worked`
`17:19.10`	`nooblark`	`i thought of advance strats already, but i never used them, and still beat it`
`17:19.20`	`nooblark`	`you need to add one thing in the game for me`
`17:19.30`	`nooblark`	`instead of time takes to kill`
`17:19.41`	`nooblark`	`time it took + players used`
`17:19.44`	`motive`	`nooblark: my map is confusing`
`17:19.47`	`motive`	`but I'm awesome`
`17:19.57`	`nooblark`	`i would get a lot of replay value out of trying to play it with less people`
`17:20.13`	`nooblark`	`and it be noted somehere.`
`17:20.34`	`nooblark`	`what map motive?`
`17:20.44`	`motive`	`all the Cortex roleplays`
`17:20.44`	`motive`	`haha`
`17:20.51`	`nooblark`	`mmm never played em`
`17:20.55`	`motive`	`they're infamous apparently`
`17:21.10`	`nooblark`	`so badly awesome?`
`17:21.27`	`motive`	`uh`
`17:21.29`	`motive`	`something like that`
`17:21.32`	`nooblark`	`lol`
`17:21.35`	`motive`	`think in-game map editor if you know what you're doing`
`17:22.01`	`nooblark`	`so it's a giant sandbox game?`
`17:22.07`	`motive`	`for roleplaying primarily, yeah`
`17:22.10`	`motive`	`I mean players can make shit like this`
`17:22.10`	`motive`	`http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b526/StrainSC2/Screenshot2013-01-0712_05_30_zps953c4b3b.jpg`
`17:22.16`	`motive`	`custom model? or just lots of combinations of models?`
`17:22.17`	`motive`	`who the fuck knows`
`17:22.20`	`motive`	`but it looks interesting`
`17:22.36`	`nooblark`	`interesting`
`17:22.48`	`nooblark`	`i don't roleplay though, sorry :P`
`17:22.59`	`motive`	`eh that's cool`
`17:23.00`	`motive`	`neither do I`
`17:23.04`	`motive`	`I just like making sandboxes`
`17:23.34`	`nooblark`	`me too. when i was a kid, i used to just dig holes all over the ground and try and collect as much sand as i could for them`
`17:23.34`	`motive`	`SC2 is pretty awesome though`
`17:23.39`	`motive`	`amazing what you can do in-game`
`17:24.01`	`nooblark`	`i want someone to make`
`17:24.08`	`nooblark`	`smash brothers`
`17:24.14`	`nooblark`	`the original for n64`
`17:25.22`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Ya nooblark, I got that planned out`
`17:25.28`	`motive`	`lol, fire breathing hydralisk`
`17:25.29`	`motive`	`http://i.imgur.com/d7wQt.png`
`17:25.45`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Once I get content and balance, there will be different categorise for beating the map`
`17:26.02`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Lol that's sick motive`
`17:26.44`	`motive`	`LOL`
`17:26.45`	`motive`	`http://imageshack.us/f/34/screenshot2011040604153.jpg/`
`17:26.49`	`motive`	`I'm going through our screenshots thread`
`17:26.52`	`motive`	`people are fucking crazy`
`17:27.38`	`Dustin\|Work`	`lololol`
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`17:28.33`	`motive`	`this is pretty sick too`
`17:28.33`	`motive`	`http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/593/screenshot2011100117511.jpg`
`17:28.38`	`motive`	`all in-game made city`
`17:28.52`	`Repo`	`Updated wiki entry: galaxy / data / effects - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/data/effects/`
`17:31.12`	`motive`	`this is pretty cool too`
`17:31.13`	`motive`	`http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b526/StrainSC2/MCStandLow_zps290cff59.jpg`
`17:31.13`	`nooblark`	`looks cool`
`17:31.15`	`nooblark`	`but`
`17:31.27`	`nooblark`	`2:17:24 for a city that goes poof`
`17:31.28`	`nooblark`	`lol`
`17:31.32`	`motive`	`var x =@spawn DominionKillTeam;@addbehavior NoCollision;@copy;@removeweapon DominionKillTeam;@addweapon SwannMelee;@modelswap Blob;@attach MeleeDuranUnarmed;@scale 1.1;@play - cover;@attach Food right;@modelswap JumpStompStun;@context x;@remove;@tint 100 40;@modelswap ShapeCubeNoGlow;@scale .2 .2 2.5;@attach Food overhead;@modelswap ShapeCubeNoGlow;@tint 50 50 50;@scale .3 .45 .3;@color`
`17:31.33`	`motive`	`white;@attach SMViking;@scale;@tint 0 0 0 0;@attach VikingFighter;@scale;@animspeed .001;@tint 0 0 0 0;@attach SMViking;@modelswap blob;@scale .75;@addbehavior HeroDeathPrevention;@renameall Stop.</n></n></n></n></n>Hammer Time.;@addbehavior Blank;@setname Hammer Time`
`17:31.35`	`motive`	`all that to make it`
`17:31.36`	`motive`	`haha`
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`17:33.03`	`motive`	`I'd like to have version 3.0 be kind of like a programming language, and so you can save things like that city and import them`
`17:33.15`	`motive`	`I figure it's pretty close to that already`
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`17:39.23`	`nooblark`	`hello sleepy head`
`17:39.37`	`twodie`	`EAYHDASHDA`
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`17:41.40`	`nooblark`	`daara and misu logging in within minutes of eachother`
`17:41.49`	`nooblark`	`mmmm not suspicious.`
`17:41.56`	`Daara`	`caught us`
`17:42.06`	`nooblark`	`old lovers, wasm't hard`
`17:42.14`	`nooblark`	`needed to wait a little longer than 3 minutes.`
`17:43.25`	`Daara`	`i don't even want to know how many textures i have to edit today`
`17:43.32`	`Daara`	`probably somewhere in the range of 100 :c`
`17:43.52`	`nooblark`	`lol`
`17:44.52`	`Daara`	`and that's with my new method of adding team colors`
`17:44.56`	`Daara`	`so it takes longer :c`
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`18:15.59`	`G0A`	`duckies wanna test my maps now?`
`18:16.29`	`G0A`	`nobody these days on sc2mapster channel :(`
`18:16.37`	`duckies`	`which maps? you know I only like random slide =(`
`18:18.05`	`G0A`	`stay alive and never die:D`
`18:19.25`	`duckies`	`aw man, I'm really not in a mood to play endless map and a melee based map. I'm terrified of both of them x_x`
`18:20.09`	`G0A`	`dam you`
`18:20.13`	`nooblark`	`NA?`
`18:20.14`	`duckies`	`G0A, make a hero map, where you use your hero to interract with stuff, I'd play that`
`18:20.22`	`G0A`	`than come and I will slay you in blasterbots.D`
`18:20.24`	`nooblark`	`goa`
`18:20.26`	`nooblark`	`na`
`18:20.27`	`nooblark`	`?`
`18:20.30`	`nooblark`	`NA`
`18:20.42`	`duckies`	`aw come on, you know I can't decline a blasterbots invitation >.<`
`18:21.49`	`G0A`	`nooblarkEU, but you can switch servers now anyway:D`
`18:22.10`	`duckies`	`and so can you blark!`
`18:22.39`	`nooblark`	`we can?`
`18:23.17`	`duckies`	`check a thread on mapster`
`18:23.24`	`duckies`	`in general section`
`18:23.32`	`duckies`	`about global play and publishing`
`18:23.33`	`duckies`	`:3`
`18:25.17`	`nooblark`	`lazty.`
`18:25.58`	`duckies`	`g0a`
`18:25.59`	`duckies`	`it's up`
`18:26.06`	`twodie`	`Im lazy to disconnect from US server since on EU im unknown for people and noone playes my maps :(`
`18:26.51`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Howd you change regions?`
`18:27.08`	`twodie`	`SC2MAPSTER!!!!`
`18:27.15`	`twodie`	`sometimes visit that page`
`18:27.19`	`twodie`	`i recommend!`
`18:27.32`	`Dustin\|Work`	`what?`
`18:28.52`	`twodie`	`to visit sc2mapster`
`18:29.49`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Im in the IRC, I think that I visit SC2mapster enough :P`
`18:30.06`	`nooblark`	`what is sc2mapster?`
`18:31.05`	`nooblark`	`misu losing 1v1s lol. everyone should message her about gold being too hard`
`18:31.11`	`twodie`	`and you still dont know how to change the region :/`
`18:31.27`	`twodie`	`visit but not deep enough to see topic with instructions`
`18:32.15`	`nooblark`	`did they really make it so yu can watch replays together?`
`18:32.30`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Uh what`
`18:32.38`	`Dustin\|Work`	`There was no topic recently`
`18:33.23`	`twodie`	`it was created week ago, and active topic too`
`18:34.02`	`Dustin\|Work`	`I was looking at main page post, I see the forum thread now`
`18:34.31`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Oh you just edit the xml`
`18:34.41`	`Dustin\|Work`	`You really couldn't type that? you had to be a dick about it? :P`
`18:34.54`	`Dustin\|Work`	`nooblark, yes`
`18:35.21`	`Dustin\|Work`	`it's pretty cool, I watched a replay of a game my brother and I played, then we swapped positions halfway through watching it and played as each other lol`
`18:35.46`	`nooblark`	`what?1`
`18:35.55`	`nooblark`	`how do you play in a replay?`
`18:36.15`	`Dustin\|Work`	`When you're watching it, there's a button to "Jump IN' and you can assign players to people watching`
`18:36.24`	`Dustin\|Work`	`and then it just starts the game from that spot you're at in the rplay`
`18:36.30`	`twodie`	`Dustin\|Work edit? you have to do some shit there`
`18:36.36`	`twodie`	`i had to create whole file`
`18:36.40`	`twodie`	`with that text`
`18:36.42`	`nooblark`	`and you play it like a regular melee from there?>`
`18:36.51`	`twodie`	`so i couldnt type much there`
`18:37.03`	`Dustin\|Work`	`All you had to say was, edited the regions.xml`
`18:37.17`	`Dustin\|Work`	`I didnt want to know exact details`
`18:37.29`	`Dustin\|Work`	`I was just curious as how it was done because I saw no GUI for it`
`18:37.33`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Yup nooblark`
`18:37.42`	`nooblark`	`that's silly.`
`18:37.48`	`nooblark`	`what a waste of blizzard's resources`
`18:38.14`	`nooblark`	`i see how it can totally be practical.. but that's just silliness`
`18:38.21`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Well, the tech is being used for reconnecting to disc games too from what I've read`
`18:38.34`	`nooblark`	`i heard that`
`18:38.53`	`Dustin\|Work`	`But Im not sure if they meant that, everyone could just remake with the replay`
`18:39.02`	`Dustin\|Work`	`or if after you get disc you can just reconnect`
`18:39.17`	`nooblark`	`selling iMisu`
`18:39.27`	`nooblark`	`cheap.`
`18:40.25`	`nooblark`	`she's worth about 1v1 silver right now, get her before her value increases to gold`
`18:41.10`	`Ahli`	`then they can continue games that have been stopped because of a computer failure`
`18:41.54`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Ahli, ya but we're not sure if it's based on the replay at that point or if my computer restarts and I log back in, if I'd have a button "Rejoin game"`
`18:41.59`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Or something like HoN has`
`18:42.13`	`Dustin\|Work`	`bbl lunch.`
`18:42.56`	`Ahli`	`I think there is/will be a special button for admins to continue game at point the game decides when a player stopped/crashed.`
`18:43.17`	`Ahli`	`I think browder explained it in an interview recently`
`18:46.17`	`iMisu`	`omg nooblark soooo funny >.>`
`18:46.39`	`iMisu`	`i brb going to lunch with a friend`
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`18:54.38`	`twodie`	`Btw is there any FANS of Eras Zombies Invasion map mod stuff? we are doing some shit with GOA about that matter in making something like it with more SC2 feel.`
`18:55.26`	`nooblark`	`is that the game where you have a city in a country and zombies attack you?`
`18:55.31`	`iMisu`	`lark`
`18:55.35`	`iMisu`	`I dont have the latest you do`
`18:56.24`	`twodie`	`nooblark yeah`
`18:57.09`	`nooblark`	`i tried playing it once. laggy + confusing game.. i'd be interested to see one with a sc fel`
`18:58.15`	`twodie`	`i played 10 times and now sitting in a lobby no matter that after 10 mins i have 0 fps`
`18:59.53`	`twodie`	`so im kinda looking into suggestions what to include`
`19:00.06`	`twodie`	`http://piratepad.eu/9fB2C8IkFD`
`19:00.20`	`twodie`	`heres is what i came with for now`
`19:00.34`	`twodie`	`everything is ediable for a public`
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`19:08.27`	`Daara`	`hmm`
`19:08.34`	`Daara`	`can't tell if my milk has gone sour`
`19:08.35`	`Daara`	`or not`
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`19:10.47`	`Monkalizer`	`Why is there no meat eating plants in the sc universe?`
`19:12.21`	`QueenG`	`Global play and publishing way available: http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/general-chat/47972-global-play-publishing-available/. I am on the editor, how do I publish to a different region?`
`19:14.37`	`Monkalizer`	`unless they have released the _official_ global play - you have to add a file to your installation folder`
`19:14.58`	`QueenG`	`k`
`19:15.46`	`Monkalizer`	`im curious when it will happen too`
`19:15.55`	`QueenG`	`yeah it works yay`
`19:19.14`	`nooblark`	`queen i was totally making new song this morning`
`19:19.15`	`nooblark`	`lol`
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`19:27.26`	`Monkalizer`	`stupid... bug...`
`19:28.41`	`nooblark`	`bugs are a huge part of our ecosystem though`
`19:29.29`	`Monkalizer`	`yeah... i just saw some tv show where a plant ate up to 200 bugs per hour`
`19:29.35`	`Monkalizer`	`i would like to have one.`
`19:29.59`	`nooblark`	`lol`
`19:30.06`	`QueenG`	`hey nooblark wanna do me a favor? ill pay you`
`19:30.10`	`nooblark`	`yah`
`19:30.12`	`nooblark`	`i love money`
`19:30.13`	`nooblark`	`go.`
`19:30.36`	`QueenG`	`I want to create a small video of the map but I want to capture it in HD`
`19:30.47`	`nooblark`	`i am not a cinematic person :O`
`19:30.58`	`QueenG`	`my laptop can only do low settings, do you have a good computer that can run sc2 on high?`
`19:31.01`	`QueenG`	`oh okay thats okay`
`19:31.06`	`QueenG`	`ill find someone else`
`19:31.07`	`nooblark`	`well`
`19:31.26`	`Monkalizer`	`perhaps you could ask tainted`
`19:31.27`	`nooblark`	`i used to play on above ultra`
`19:31.40`	`nooblark`	`but blizzard did a patch awhile back that causes super lag`
`19:31.50`	`nooblark`	`so i lowered it.`
`19:31.59`	`nooblark`	`but i can still get it that high, for a video's sake.`
`19:32.20`	`nooblark`	`i can't edit though..`
`19:33.25`	`QueenG`	`alright when he gets online ill ask tainted`
`19:34.03`	`Monkalizer`	`im not sure about his editing skills, but he made some videos about the new UI`
`19:35.40`	`QueenG`	`yea its should be simple, I just need someone to video capture in a good game setting playing my map then we will put the sc2mapster 3 sec logo in the beginning.`
`19:35.54`	`QueenG`	`run on and bad grammar ftw`
`19:36.30`	`Monkalizer`	`lol`
`19:36.33`	`nooblark`	`a clip of playing? or the whole time`
`19:37.19`	`nooblark`	`want to play music galaxy? :)`
`19:38.11`	`Twodie_`	`Heh i would want to play Eras Zombies Invasion laggless version with players :/`
`19:44.35`	`QueenG`	`hi twodie`
`19:44.49`	`TwoDie`	`hey weird thing?`
`19:45.05`	`QueenG`	`I was thinking of adding guitar sounds to it nooblark`
`19:45.13`	`QueenG`	`guitar chords and drums`
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`19:45.44`	`QueenG`	`oh yay hey Taintedwisp`
`19:45.49`	`Taintedwisp`	`?`
`19:46.19`	`Taintedwisp`	`hry queen`
`19:46.31`	`Taintedwisp`	`what you yay about`
`19:46.35`	`QueenG`	`I was wondering if your not busy if you could do a video capture for my map. I want to upload the video on youtube of my playing Music Galaxy.`
`19:46.58`	`Taintedwisp`	`cant I no longer have fraps or anything like it on this computer`
`19:47.08`	`QueenG`	`Id do it myself but I can only run on low settings and my laptop can't handle anything more detailed.`
`19:47.16`	`QueenG`	`mkay ill find someone else then.`
`19:47.21`	`Taintedwisp`	`Same queen :P`
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`19:49.17`	`Monkalizer`	`stupid... game attributes works on all my maps offline. but when I play them online one map does not? how come???`
`19:56.20`	`Monkalizer`	`is there still some place where one can send "broken" maps?`
`19:59.42`	`TwoDie`	`Monkalizer im here`
`20:00.10`	`Monkalizer`	`lol`
`20:00.43`	`Monkalizer`	`but are you any good with debugging?`
`20:00.57`	`TwoDie`	`we will find out?`
`20:01.17`	`Monkalizer`	`yeah, why not`
`20:01.26`	`Monkalizer`	`so where do I send the stuff?`
`20:01.34`	`TwoDie`	`inteltwo@gmail.com`
`20:04.32`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Signed up for gay pron ^`
`20:05.33`	`TwoDie`	`cool i guess?`
`20:05.59`	`Dustin\|Work`	`depends on what you're in to.`
`20:06.38`	`TwoDie`	`everything works if in the mood for that.`
`20:07.03`	`Monkalizer`	`yeah its probably a better idea to double click a name and send email adresses privately ^^`
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`20:07.32`	`TwoDie`	`monkalizer dont like recieveing gay pron? :/`
`20:08.02`	`Zolden`	`who sends gay porn?`
`20:08.10`	`Zolden`	`sign me in!`
`20:08.11`	`TwoDie`	`[22:04] <Dustin\|Work> Signed up for gay pron ^`
`20:08.24`	`Monkalizer`	`gay porn.. i dont know if im that sensitive. but there is scarier things online`
`20:08.44`	`Monkalizer`	`bump your email adress and the robots and bofoons will take care of it`
`20:08.51`	`Vindicator`	`played your game earlier yesterday TwoDie - it's fun and it's doing very well!`
`20:09.09`	`TwoDie`	`So monk you will send me your map or you will send it to zolden1?`
`20:09.26`	`TwoDie`	`Vindicator good to know :)`
`20:09.40`	`Zolden`	`btw TwoDie yesterday I witnessed a situation where trebuchet refused to undepoy`
`20:09.54`	`Zolden`	`i clicked its button, but no reaction`
`20:09.55`	`Vindicator`	`ya, thats right`
`20:09.56`	`Monkalizer`	`its uploading`
`20:10.06`	`Vindicator`	`i coudn't undeploy trebuchet either`
`20:10.09`	`TwoDie`	`Zolden yeah something like that happend to me too`
`20:10.27`	`Zolden`	`ok, good to know that you know`
`20:10.37`	`TwoDie`	`i cant do fuck about it :]`
`20:10.43`	`G0A`	`so who wanna play a melee game where the units dont die?:)`
`20:10.46`	`Vindicator`	`also, i think that guard towers were taking more damage than they should from archers. 11 instead of 6 or something like that`
`20:10.55`	`TwoDie`	`G0A me if its US`
`20:11.00`	`G0A`	`ok`
`20:12.28`	`Vindicator`	`also, i think when trebuchets died the siege tank blowing up animations showed up. if you replace the model for the siege tank death with a model called terran explosion or something close to that, it'll fix that`
`20:13.36`	`Zolden`	`true`
`20:13.41`	`Monkalizer`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/hercmerc-project/files/20-development-backup/`
`20:13.46`	`Zolden`	`also, other units don't have deeath animations`
`20:13.56`	`Zolden`	`while the models probably include death animation`
`20:14.01`	`Zolden`	`I want more corpses!`
`20:14.12`	`Zolden`	`just put unit model to death model, it will play death`
`20:15.21`	`Zolden`	`TwoDie: your nickname implies that you could pay more attention to death related stuff`
`20:15.31`	`TwoDie`	`:D`
`20:16.07`	`Zolden`	`also, i recommend to mention your other maps on loaduingscreen, ppl will play it`
`20:16.22`	`Zolden`	`it worked for homm`
`20:16.39`	`Zolden`	`other maps joined upncoming after i mentioned em`
`20:20.20`	`G0A`	`anyone want play my fun melee mod?:D`
`20:20.44`	`TwoDie`	`yeah built a bunker, marines in there and you cant do a fuck :/`
`20:20.47`	`G0A`	`its fast.D`
`20:21.07`	`TwoDie`	`unless you camp too and get ranged units, siege tanks or other shit`
`20:21.08`	`G0A`	`you have to kill the bunker:D`
`20:22.39`	`TwoDie`	`yeah with what? when already my army is your army`
`20:23.18`	`G0A`	`:)`
`20:24.04`	`TwoDie`	`by the way what does those options in buttons do like show in glossary and other`
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`20:30.46`	`tehbone`	`does anybody know where the 3.5 attack speed of carriers comes from?`
`20:31.43`	`TwoDie`	`so yeah after attack trebutchet cant unsiege the cd goes but the morph doesnt progress`
`20:31.47`	`G0A`	`So`
`20:32.11`	`G0A`	`who want to play a melee game where units turn into your unit if you kill them?:D`
`20:33.07`	`Dustin\|Work`	`I would, but im at work :(`
`20:33.11`	`G0A`	`:(`
`20:40.29`	`TwoDie`	`Zolden did you played Eras Zombies Invaison!?`
`20:42.12`	`tehbone`	`Hangars are strange :S Where the fuck does that number come frome`
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`20:43.03`	`G0A`	`TwoDie wanna play the same map in ffa?:D`
`20:43.07`	`G0A`	`4 player.D`
`20:43.18`	`TwoDie`	`:( i do`
`20:43.25`	`Zolden`	`TwoDie: u'd know if I would`
`20:43.52`	`TwoDie`	`YOU SHOULD TRY IT!!!`
`20:44.13`	`TwoDie`	`and join the dark side to make the better map than that!!!!`
`20:44.18`	`TwoDie`	`with G0A!!!`
`20:44.23`	`TwoDie`	`and then we PLAY!!!!!`
`20:44.25`	`TwoDie`	`PLAY!!!!`
`20:44.29`	`TwoDie`	`and PLAY!!!!`
`20:57.29`	`duckies`	`the loss is always so bitter ;/`
`21:05.42`	`Taintedwisp`	`https://www.dropbox.com/s/iwzhy3z5q4zuqno/To%20Do%20List%20for%20Beta.txt`
`21:05.52`	`Taintedwisp`	`Thats all thats left to be completed for beta on EvoFrenzy...`
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`21:07.00`	`Taintedwisp`	`The data editor who I specifically found for heroes, is fucking too lazy to do heroes...`
`21:07.30`	`QueenG`	`hey nooblark u there?`
`21:08.04`	`Taintedwisp`	`yo queenG are you a data editor or a Trigger editor ?`
`21:09.15`	`QueenG`	`neither lol, i havent done any heavy mapping since 2010`
`21:09.38`	`QueenG`	`but i can conceptualize ideas all day though...`
`21:09.46`	`Taintedwisp`	`damn`
`21:09.54`	`Taintedwisp`	`Gotta find someone willing to help me :(`
`21:09.58`	`QueenG`	`ima leave soon, tell nooblark i went to goto costco and do errands`
`21:10.11`	`Taintedwisp`	`okay tell him you went to a gay bar to meet your boyfrined`
`21:10.12`	`Taintedwisp`	`gotcha`
`21:10.23`	`QueenG`	`yup`
`21:10.28`	`QueenG`	`costco = gay bar`
`21:10.42`	`Dustin\|Work`	`CostCock`
`21:11.42`	`G0A`	`duckies I lost too against TwoDie 300 supply army:D`
`21:12.01`	`TwoDie`	`i could won with less`
`21:12.02`	`JademusSreg`	`That's funny; it's usually free.`
`21:12.15`	`TwoDie`	`if i would turtle more and move out slowly with siege tanks`
`21:12.56`	`duckies`	`I just ragequit because of my own incompitence. I couldnt' stand the truth that the map revealed about my complete understanding of tactics and battlefield awareness >;/`
`21:12.56`	`Taintedwisp`	`JademusSreg you know you feel that triggering itch :P`
`21:13.12`	`duckies`	`*coplete lack of`
`21:13.25`	`G0A`	`immortals would counter your turtleing`
`21:14.06`	`TwoDie`	`not really there where too much of tanks, well since we playing this map any shit can happen`
`21:14.18`	`JademusSreg`	`One's own projects tend to trump those of others. =D`
`21:14.19`	`Taintedwisp`	`Godzilla would counter your everything though`
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`21:14.46`	`Taintedwisp`	`unless you have space godzilla... cause you know... hes from space`
`21:14.48`	`nooblark`	`tainted`
`21:14.54`	`nooblark`	`you need trigger help, ya?`
`21:15.00`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Yes he does`
`21:15.02`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Sooo much`
`21:15.03`	`mille25`	`hi`
`21:15.07`	`nooblark`	`like, how much?`
`21:15.09`	`Taintedwisp`	`yeah I do... My triggerer sucks...`
`21:15.10`	`nooblark`	`lol`
`21:15.10`	`Taintedwisp`	`https://www.dropbox.com/s/iwzhy3z5q4zuqno/To%20Do%20List%20for%20Beta.txt`
`21:15.19`	`Taintedwisp`	`Well he doesnt suck. He just hasnt done anything`
`21:15.21`	`Dustin\|Work`	`I saw some of his triggers once`
`21:15.25`	`Taintedwisp`	`Neither has my Data editor`
`21:15.41`	`Dustin\|Work`	`I made Tainted an Event system and like 2 events lol`
`21:15.52`	`Taintedwisp`	`SO I am pretty much trying to meet a HoTS deadline by myself, without either of them doing anything`
`21:16.08`	`nooblark`	`what do you need`
`21:16.14`	`Taintedwisp`	`That list is EVERYTHING that needs to be completed by HoTS`
`21:16.17`	`nooblark`	`i see your list.`
`21:16.23`	`nooblark`	`wha does that have to do with triggers`
`21:16.53`	`Taintedwisp`	`Really I need Events, and Bosses, I need it so when the bosses spawn you know, there are Bosses.... and when the events go off, that they are actual special periods of the game`
`21:17.15`	`Taintedwisp`	`I could use a Bar in the leaderboard to represent how long until the next teir too`
`21:17.19`	`nooblark`	`did you make the bosses in the data editor?`
`21:17.31`	`Taintedwisp`	`And all the triggers I made(like 6 ) ned to be remade`
`21:17.39`	`Taintedwisp`	`Yeah 8 of the bosses are in data`
`21:17.48`	`Taintedwisp`	`the last 2 arent compelted`
`21:17.58`	`nooblark`	`so you want a boos to spawn (when), and do (what) for how (long)?`
`21:19.25`	`nooblark`	`i might be interested in doing a few. pm me some stuff you need (i'll look into that bar for the leadboard first)`
`21:19.36`	`nooblark`	`i assume it is going to go up, according to experience?`
`21:19.43`	`nooblark`	`pm me.`
`21:22.07`	`Taintedwisp`	`not according to experience, but according to a custom variable`
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`21:27.24`	`Triceron`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie2n_YXHj4w`
`21:27.41`	`Triceron`	`this game looks so awesome`
`21:27.56`	`Triceron`	`play as a dungeon master, about damn time!`
`21:30.37`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Of course you link a Totalbiscuit video :P`
`21:31.40`	`Taintedwisp`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTwnwbG9YLE`
`21:31.53`	`Dustin\|Work`	`That game does look cool`
`21:31.58`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Ohh comeout tomorrow`
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`21:48.25`	`Kubi`	`ONLY ANOTHER GINGER`
`21:48.31`	`Kubi`	`CAN CALL ANOTHER GINGER, A GINGER`
`21:49.00`	`Dustin\|Work`	`SHUT UP GINGER`
`21:49.15`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`Gingers everywhere`
`21:49.16`	`Kubi`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KVN_0qvuhhw#t=229s`
`21:49.43`	`Kubi`	`im a ginger`
`21:49.45`	`Kubi`	`so fuck yuou`
`21:50.08`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`Here, have my soul :)`
`21:50.46`	`Kubi`	`I can't take it, because I would put into my furnace of hate which fuels me.`
`21:51.28`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`Meh, your loss :D`
`21:51.56`	`Kubi`	`In bootcamp`
`21:52.00`	`Kubi`	`I was nicknamed Pumpkin Nuts`
`21:52.14`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`Cancer is a bitch`
`21:52.20`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`How long do you have? :O`
`21:52.24`	`Kubi`	`Opening Beta editor`
`21:52.26`	`Kubi`	`280s`
`21:52.43`	`Kubi`	`I have no cancer`
`21:52.45`	`Kubi`	`I'm a ginger`
`21:57.18`	`JademusSreg`	`Literally the only thing I know about TB is that he didn't like Photon Cycles because it wasn't controlled with WASD.`
`21:57.36`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Lol`
`21:57.48`	`Dustin\|Work`	`I worked with TB at WoW Radio for quite a few years`
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`22:00.59`	`Daara`	`Ginga plz`
`22:01.59`	`Zolden`	`who's tb?`
`22:02.19`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`True Blue`
`22:02.20`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`!`
`22:02.27`	`Zolden`	`is it a person?`
`22:03.29`	`JademusSreg`	`Tuberculosis?`
`22:03.45`	`Zolden`	`tits boobs`
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`22:12.28`	`Zolden`	`how the fuck am I supposed to translate korean reviews for my map? it doesn't let me copy the text ;/`
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`22:30.25`	`Daara`	`and my axe!`
`22:30.27`	`Daara`	`http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h205/Daara/AxePreview_zps658e61c3.jpg`
`22:30.54`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Daara`
`22:30.57`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Im going to look at that`
`22:31.01`	`Dustin\|Work`	`If it sucks, im gonna be mad.`
`22:31.21`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Ok ok, those axe's were cool, you're spared.`
`22:34.35`	`Zolden`	`ew`
`22:34.38`	`Zolden`	`no nomrmals`
`22:34.52`	`duckies`	`those are interesting axes, what are you doing daara?`
`22:35.25`	`duckies`	`I hope it's a map where you can equip them and slice some heads`
`22:37.37`	`Repo`	`Updated wiki entry: Galaxy / Data / Validators - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/data/validators/`
`22:38.13`	`duckies`	`actually, forget about it, you should make AuirChief2 where you use those axes to prepare ingredients for all sorts of foods, that I feel would be the best use for them :3`
`22:49.51`	`tehbone`	`Does anybody know where the 3.5 attack speed of Carriers is coming from?`
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`22:51.22`	`Kubi`	`What is the characteristic called for knowing if a unit is biological/hero/etc`
`22:51.50`	`duckies`	`attribute?`
`22:52.07`	`Ahli`	`tehbone, carrier's weapon? but that is 0.5 by default`
`22:52.10`	`Kubi`	`thank you`
`22:52.11`	`Kubi`	`duckies`
`22:52.13`	`Kubi`	`i forget`
`22:52.20`	`duckies`	`np`
`22:52.32`	`tehbone`	`I know but in game it shows 3.5`
`22:54.54`	`Dustin\|Work`	`.5 x each Magazine entry?`
`22:55.04`	`Dustin\|Work`	`I think it's saying it takes 3.5 seconds to fully deploy all mags?`
`22:55.04`	`tehbone`	`Selendis has 0.25 on its own, her interceptors have 3.0. Ingame it shows 3.5 and the number ignores attack speed buffs (aka no green number behind it)`
`22:55.33`	`tehbone`	`I've changed the mag to 1 unit, the number doesn'T change`
`22:55.50`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Weird`
`22:56.43`	`Ahli`	`tehbone, carrier displays an equipment item instead of its weapon`
`22:57.16`	`tehbone`	`Hm`
`22:57.17`	`Ahli`	`it displays the weapon "Interceptors", but uses its hidden weapon`
`22:57.19`	`Kubi`	`NO`
`22:57.23`	`Kubi`	`I DONT WANT TO MAKE DIALOGS`
`22:57.25`	`Kubi`	`THEY SCARE ME`
`22:57.27`	`Kubi`	`GO AWAY DIALOGS`
`22:58.01`	`JademusSreg`	`Dialogs are your friend.`
`22:58.22`	`nooblark`	`fuck dialogs`
`22:58.24`	`nooblark`	`peices of shit`
`22:58.26`	`nooblark`	`mother fuckers`
`22:58.36`	`JademusSreg`	`Dialogs want to fuck you. <3`
`22:58.43`	`nooblark`	`dialogs have raped me already`
`22:58.45`	`Kubi`	`I wish blizzard made a dialog editor like the layout editor`
`22:58.51`	`Kubi`	`that would be so sick`
`22:59.05`	`Ahli`	`well.....`
`22:59.08`	`Kubi`	`So I decide to finish my hostage crisis map`
`22:59.15`	`nooblark`	`OMG YAT`
`22:59.22`	`nooblark`	`i misread`
`22:59.23`	`nooblark`	`fuck`
`22:59.23`	`Kubi`	`YAT?`
`22:59.25`	`Ahli`	`dialogs are frames in the layout editor...`
`22:59.31`	`nooblark`	`kubi you're remaking the sc1 original? :O`
`22:59.41`	`Kubi`	`yeah and the one I made in WC3`
`23:00.00`	`nooblark`	`did you make the original for sc1?`
`23:00.05`	`Kubi`	`I'm making it so you can make a terrorist hero that transfers between games, and your bounty gets higher each successful game you have`
`23:00.06`	`Kubi`	`no`
`23:00.14`	`Kubi`	`I remade the one from SC1 into Wc3 though`
`23:00.23`	`nooblark`	`it's based off Hostage Negotiations, right?`
`23:00.28`	`Kubi`	`yeah I made that`
`23:00.30`	`Kubi`	`in wc2`
`23:00.32`	`Kubi`	`wc3`
`23:00.34`	`nooblark`	`i never played sc`
`23:00.35`	`nooblark`	`wc**`
`23:00.43`	`Kubi`	`we should play it for old time sake`
`23:00.51`	`nooblark`	`the sc1?`
`23:00.59`	`nooblark`	`queen and i totally played sc1 the other day.`
`23:01.05`	`nooblark`	`i whooped her ass`
`23:01.07`	`Kubi`	`The one in wc3`
`23:01.18`	`Kubi`	`lol I made it so hostages had to use the toilet`
`23:01.19`	`Kubi`	`or they died`
`23:01.26`	`nooblark`	`dumb`
`23:01.34`	`Kubi`	`yeah I didnt add it to the sc2 one`
`23:01.37`	`nooblark`	`the original was so awesome.`
`23:01.38`	`Kubi`	`but you have to eat`
`23:01.44`	`nooblark`	`eating is fine`
`23:01.53`	`nooblark`	`because without the hostages needing to move around`
`23:01.54`	`Kubi`	`I wont make it ground breaking but`
`23:01.57`	`nooblark`	`it's pointless`
`23:02.18`	`Kubi`	`Hostages can find random items that they can use to help escape or try to atleast`
`23:02.27`	`nooblark`	`nice`
`23:02.36`	`Kubi`	`The terrorist get a bomb that they can plant anywhere on the mpa`
`23:02.43`	`nooblark`	`yah, like old one`
`23:02.43`	`Kubi`	`like in wc3`
`23:02.46`	`Kubi`	`yeah`
`23:02.57`	`Kubi`	`but the rating system will have cool things in it`
`23:03.02`	`nooblark`	`that`
`23:03.04`	`nooblark`	`'s cool`
`23:03.04`	`Kubi`	`the higher the rating more you unlock`
`23:03.07`	`Kubi`	`like`
`23:03.14`	`Kubi`	`if player is a cop and has a high rating`
`23:03.23`	`Kubi`	`he can get a sniper to silent pick off terrorists (not hero though)`
`23:04.03`	`Kubi`	`of course it wont be op, it will have a long cooldown`
`23:04.19`	`nooblark`	`mmm`
`23:04.22`	`nooblark`	`what do i want to do.`
`23:04.26`	`nooblark`	`so many choices.`
`23:04.37`	`JademusSreg`	`Dialogs.`
`23:04.38`	`Kubi`	`I want to make it have a high replay ability`
`23:04.40`	`Kubi`	`No`
`23:04.44`	`Kubi`	`I dont want to make dialogs`
`23:04.46`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha.`
`23:04.47`	`Kubi`	`who wants to do it`
`23:04.47`	`Kubi`	`_>_`
`23:04.59`	`Kubi`	`I want to make a pick system like Hero X3 attack or w/e`
`23:05.05`	`Kubi`	`it looks nioce`
`23:05.29`	`nooblark`	`1. help queen; 2. help Tainited; 3. remake a whole new dialog; 4. fix the old dialog so we have a working map; 5. work on my own shit; 6. something else entirely.`
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`23:06.47`	`JademusSreg`	`Dialogs are easy, assuming you are comfortable making functions/actions.`
`23:07.13`	`Kubi`	`oh dialogs are easy`
`23:07.18`	`Kubi`	`they are just time consuming and tidious`
`23:07.29`	`nooblark`	`tidious?`
`23:07.50`	`JademusSreg`	`Kubi meant tit-eous. =D`
`23:07.56`	`Kubi`	`TIDYIOUS`
`23:08.02`	`JademusSreg`	`Or teateous.`
`23:08.20`	`JademusSreg`	`Or teatmouse.`
`23:08.23`	`Kubi`	`So`
`23:08.28`	`Kubi`	`if you signed up for elder scrolls online`
`23:08.32`	`Kubi`	`you might want to try again`
`23:08.41`	`JademusSreg`	`Naw. Looks lame.`
`23:08.45`	`Triceron`	`whens the beta start`
`23:09.06`	`Triceron`	`are there dragons in it?`
`23:09.58`	`Kubi`	`appearntly not`
`23:10.47`	`Repo`	`New wiki entry: Galaxy / Data / Validators / Unit Compare Cargo - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/data/validators/unit-compare-cargo/`
`23:11.27`	`Kubi`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:11.28`	`Kubi`	`or`
`23:11.33`	`Kubi`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:12.07`	`Bommes`	`Triceron, are you planning to make a map with all your models or do you just want to release them as a mod?`
`23:12.10`	`A1win`	`playing a hostage doesn't sound very interesting (no idea what you're making)`
`23:12.30`	`Kubi`	`I am remaking hostage crisis map from SC1/WC3`
`23:12.56`	`A1win`	`still no idea what you're making :P`
`23:13.50`	`Kubi`	`1 player is a cop, that negociates the safe release of hostages`
`23:13.52`	`Kubi`	`from the terrorists`
`23:14.03`	`Kubi`	`terrorists demand a ransom or negociate with cops for more money`
`23:15.13`	`Kubi`	`based on a rating system`
`23:15.28`	`Kubi`	`you unlock more cool things for cops/terrorists if you have higher rating`
`23:15.50`	`Kubi`	`to get higher rating for terrorists you get more money from cops and you escape without dying`
`23:16.06`	`Kubi`	`higher rating for cops - you give terrorists less money and save the hostages`
`23:16.10`	`Kubi`	`Hostages, well don't die lol`
`23:16.17`	`Kubi`	`or piss off terrorists to kill your ass.`
`23:16.21`	`JademusSreg`	`Metagame unlocks for multiplayer are the bane of competitive play.`
`23:16.30`	`Kubi`	`it's not competitive`
`23:16.33`	`Kubi`	`it's for fun`
`23:16.47`	`JademusSreg`	`Grinding for rating is fun? =D`
`23:16.47`	`Kubi`	`This isn't your hero attack 3X`
`23:16.55`	`Kubi`	`It's not going to be hard nor a grind`
`23:16.57`	`Kubi`	`if your successful`
`23:17.00`	`Kubi`	`it should be no problem`
`23:17.04`	`JademusSreg`	`*you're`
`23:17.10`	`Kubi`	`Its there to punish trolls`
`23:17.17`	`Kubi`	`THIS ISNT AN ENGLISH CLASS`
`23:17.23`	`JademusSreg`	`*isn't`
`23:17.35`	`JademusSreg`	`=D`
`23:17.41`	`*** join/#sc2mapster tehbone_ (~chatzilla@g225000191.adsl.alicedsl.de)`
`23:17.50`	`A1win`	`a game mechanic designed solely for punishing trolls?`
`23:18.16`	`Kubi`	`mmm`
`23:18.16`	`Kubi`	`yeah?`
`23:18.34`	`A1win`	`how is the game "based" on that then?`
`23:18.35`	`Kubi`	`Why the fuck would you want to have trolls have more power to troll even more`
`23:18.59`	`Kubi`	`because if trolls have a low rating`
`23:19.18`	`Kubi`	`they can continue to troll as a hostage which really has much of no effect`
`23:19.35`	`Kubi`	`http://i.imgur.com/YhycFDD.jpg`
`23:19.38`	`A1win`	`but how is the game based on that, that's just an anti-trolling system D:`
`23:20.13`	`Kubi`	`The rating system is an award for those who are successful and play right and punish the trolls..`
`23:20.58`	`Kubi`	`because if a troll plays cop and decides to raid the compound and say fuck it, and get the hostages killed and many cops killed they will lose a lot of rating`
`23:21.11`	`A1win`	`that's like saying SC2 is based on a ladder ranking system`
`23:21.51`	`Kubi`	`im not sure what you're trying to get at`
`23:22.13`	`A1win`	`you haven't said a word about the gameplay`
`23:23.04`	`Kubi`	`The game is hostage crisis, terrorists take scientists as hostages and the Dominion (the cops) try to negotiate the safe return of hostages in exchange for minerals/money`
`23:23.21`	`JademusSreg`	`Trolls, or more accurately subversive antagonist play strategies, emerge from opportunity, and tend to be motivated by frustration or boredom. Most importantly, you can't prevent trolling, though you can to a limited extent disuade it. So trolls will get ratings, or normal players will get ratings before playing subversively out of boredom.`
`23:23.27`	`A1win`	`yeah I got that ;p but that's just the setting`
`23:23.56`	`JademusSreg`	`Players will abuse the mechanics.`
`23:24.09`	`Kubi`	`The hostages played by players.. try to stay alive and can try to sabotage the terrorists efforts, if they're sneaky and don't get caught`
`23:24.40`	`Kubi`	`However they need food which they get from cops delivered to the terrorists and terrorist must keep them alive since thats what the cops are after.`
`23:25.33`	`Kubi`	`Terrorists have a bomb which they can explode (which ends the game) and they have to escape if demands are not met... or if they're getting raided by the cops`
`23:25.43`	`Kubi`	`The bomb is on a timer so it's not instant`
`23:25.59`	`Kubi`	`if cops are quick and locate the bomb early they can defuse it pretty easily`
`23:26.22`	`Kubi`	`However the terrorist have to escape to live.. or get caught in the blast of the bomb`
`23:27.10`	`A1win`	`why do the hostages need to be players and not NPCs?`
`23:27.14`	`JademusSreg`	`First thing I do when I play a new map/game is see what the limits are, like attacking allies, destroying goals, sequence breaking, escaping level bounds, et cetera. You don't design to confine player behavior and punish subversive play. You design to motive player behavior and encourage purposeful play.`
`23:28.01`	`Kubi`	`and thats what I am aiming for`
`23:28.16`	`A1win`	`like wouldn't it be more fun if it was multiple cops vs multiple terrorists that have hostage NPCs`
`23:28.42`	`Kubi`	`no`
`23:28.45`	`JademusSreg`	`Poor, boring, frustrating gameplay leads players to subversive play more quickly. And arbitrary limits like locking capabilities until players get whatever rating is frustrating as fuck.`
`23:29.07`	`JademusSreg`	`Excellent example is the catastrofuck called C&C 4.`
`23:29.19`	`Kubi`	`It wont be hard to get rating`
`23:30.04`	`Triceron`	`Bommes, not entirely decided yet. Waiting on startools and blizz allstars before I really start a big push on mapping`
`23:30.16`	`Taintedwisp`	`I WANNA MAKE LOVE TO YA WOMAN!!!`
`23:30.31`	`Taintedwisp`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ0WpdTin4c`
`23:31.03`	`JademusSreg`	`Who wants to start playing at a clear disadvantage not only in skill, but in options?`
`23:31.32`	`Kubi`	`Wait what`
`23:31.34`	`JademusSreg`	`Some games can get away with that sort of metagame crap, if the core gameplay is compelling enough, like quite a few mobas.`
`23:31.38`	`Kubi`	`you dont play with a disadvantage`
`23:32.32`	`Triceron`	`you mean the concept at starting with no abilities?`
`23:32.37`	`Triceron`	`*of`
`23:32.41`	`Kubi`	`You get abilities`
`23:32.46`	`JademusSreg`	`Let's backtrack. In your design, what is a rating? What purpose does it serve? How does one acquire a rating? What are the rewards?`
`23:33.17`	`A1win`	`I was going to say further explanation required to assemble proper understanding but I guess that's a bit clearer`
`23:34.16`	`Kubi`	`You gain rating as a cop by not getting the hostages killed and not giving all your money to the terrorists and preventing the bomb from exploding`
`23:34.44`	`Kubi`	`Terrorists, you gain rating by more minerals you get from the cop..`
`23:35.05`	`Kubi`	`Hostages, stay alive and not die and getting to safety.`
`23:35.29`	`JademusSreg`	`Where does one get minerals? Is the rating acquired at end of game? 1:1 for leftover minerals?`
`23:35.56`	`Kubi`	`cops start out with minerals which can be used to get more cops or to transfer to terrorists for the safe exchange of hostages`
`23:36.11`	`QueenG`	`back`
`23:36.19`	`Kubi`	`Cops can overpower terrorists pretty easy, terrorists have stronger units but less of.. cops are better in number.`
`23:36.29`	`Kubi`	`But cops lose rating if a lot of cops die`
`23:36.59`	`Kubi`	`Lets say cops get 30,000 minerals`
`23:37.11`	`Triceron`	`how do terrorists get minerals from the cop?`
`23:37.14`	`Kubi`	`The more minerals you have at the end of the game and the hostages are exchanged`
`23:37.19`	`Kubi`	`Dialogs, they can wire transfer`
`23:37.46`	`Kubi`	`It involves a little bit of role play`
`23:37.47`	`Kubi`	`like`
`23:37.57`	`Kubi`	`1 HOSTAGE FOR MOTHERFUCKING 5000 MINERALS`
`23:38.18`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha. "No. pew pew"`
`23:38.21`	`Triceron`	`hahaha`
`23:38.26`	`Triceron`	`I was thinking the exact same thing`
`23:38.26`	`Kubi`	`Well`
`23:38.32`	`Kubi`	`it can end that way`
`23:38.38`	`Kubi`	`if terrorists dont get what they want`
`23:38.43`	`Kubi`	`cops get mad and raid the compound`
`23:38.48`	`Triceron`	`I'd send John mcclane in`
`23:38.55`	`Kubi`	`Ends in a fucking mess`
`23:39.09`	`Triceron`	`yippie kay-ay`
`23:39.10`	`Kubi`	`Terrorirst get overwhelmed and starts the timer on the bomb`
`23:39.13`	`JademusSreg`	`Seems like the metastability of this little digital mexican standoff is really fucking precarious.`
`23:39.15`	`A1win`	`ah... you should've said it's RP right from the start ;p`
`23:39.22`	`Kubi`	`and then calls in their get away ship`
`23:39.39`	`Kubi`	`Don't get me wrong`
`23:39.44`	`Kubi`	`it's not fucking cortex roleplay`
`23:39.46`	`JademusSreg`	`But that might be interesting.`
`23:39.47`	`Kubi`	`but it involves some`
`23:40.05`	`Triceron`	`it sounds like mafia or barcraft level of roleplay`
`23:40.11`	`A1win`	`of course there are roleplaying games with different mechanics, but they all rely on players not "powergaming" the mechanics`
`23:40.15`	`Kubi`	`yeah but those are in a fixed setting`
`23:40.15`	`Triceron`	`poker`
`23:40.27`	`JademusSreg`	`Anyway, back to the initial questions regarding the metagame rating.`
`23:40.36`	`Taintedwisp`	`BOATS AND HOES`
`23:40.37`	`Kubi`	`Well I am figuring in the rating`
`23:40.39`	`Taintedwisp`	`SLUTS AND BITCHES`
`23:40.43`	`Taintedwisp`	`KUBIS MOM!!!`
`23:40.45`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`23:40.49`	`Kubi`	`Cops have a plethora of units that have advantages and disadvantages`
`23:41.07`	`Kubi`	`more rating = more useful units.. doesnt mean the higher success of hostages being saved`
`23:41.24`	`Kubi`	`Lets say if you get 2000 rating`
`23:41.27`	`Kubi`	`you get john mclain`
`23:41.44`	`Kubi`	`and hes good at kicking terrorists ass`
`23:41.51`	`Kubi`	`that doesnt mean hes going to win the game single handly`
`23:41.53`	`A1win`	`I'm more into games where the theme fits in so well with the rules that whenever you are thinking about the rules, it automatically takes you into the theme`
`23:42.02`	`Kubi`	`exacty`
`23:42.04`	`Kubi`	`exactly`
`23:42.13`	`JademusSreg`	`Rating is metagame, correct?`
`23:42.20`	`Taintedwisp`	`John Mclain kicks everythings ass Kubi...`
`23:42.21`	`Kubi`	`You can plant the bomb everywhere`
`23:42.24`	`Kubi`	`Yeah`
`23:42.24`	`Kubi`	`but`
`23:42.25`	`Taintedwisp`	`Includings Helicopters`
`23:42.28`	`A1win`	`I mean the rules still need to work like a game`
`23:42.31`	`Taintedwisp`	`all he needs is a fuzzy slipper...`
`23:42.31`	`Kubi`	`John Mcclain can't defuse a bomb`
`23:42.41`	`Kubi`	`A1Win`
`23:42.43`	`Triceron`	`you can't have john mcclane and not have him kick everyone's ass!`
`23:42.46`	`Kubi`	`have you played hostage crisis in wc3`
`23:43.00`	`A1win`	`no, you might have guessed that when I said I have no idea what you're making ;p`
`23:43.07`	`JademusSreg`	`When does one earn this rating? How is it used? You spend it? It unlocks options?`
`23:43.11`	`Kubi`	`We should play a round of that`
`23:43.23`	`A1win`	`I don't wanna D:`
`23:43.35`	`Kubi`	`Also you can make your own terrorist`
`23:43.40`	`Kubi`	`with his own name`
`23:43.43`	`Kubi`	`that goes between games`
`23:43.54`	`Kubi`	`higher bounty for more successful games hes in`
`23:43.56`	`Kubi`	`as long as he doesnt die`
`23:44.00`	`Kubi`	`if he dies, you start with a new one`
`23:44.35`	`Kubi`	`but thats later on`
`23:45.03`	`Kubi`	`Terrorist Leader doesn't die easily, unless they get caught in the bomb.. if they dont escape or get overwhelmed by cops`
`23:45.18`	`A1win`	`JademusSreg, it doesn't matter in an RP, even when you have an advantage, the outcome doesn't always depend on the game mechanics but rather on the "unwritten rules"`
`23:45.22`	`Kubi`	`They will most likely live, however they may not get a lot of minerals`
`23:45.40`	`JademusSreg`	`doesn't abide rules that can't be enforced. =D`
`23:45.57`	`Kubi`	`Well the simple rules of attacking your own teammates`
`23:46.02`	`Kubi`	`thats easily to implement`
`23:46.08`	`JademusSreg`	`Yep.`
`23:46.14`	`A1win`	`rokeplaying isn't playing a game, it's playing as in acting`
`23:46.16`	`A1win`	`roleplaying games are a mix between games and acting`
`23:46.23`	`Kubi`	`And thats what this is`
`23:46.30`	`Kubi`	`Like I said, this isnt cortex roleplay`
`23:46.37`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Otixa (Otixa@cpc10-staf7-2-0-cust163.3-1.cable.virginmedia.com)`
`23:46.38`	`Kubi`	`It's a mix between the two`
`23:46.41`	`Otixa`	`herpaderpa`
`23:46.55`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Dustin\|Home (~Dustin@ip98-164-14-199.ks.ks.cox.net)`
`23:46.58`	`Otixa`	`slaps Dustin\|Home around a bit with a large trout`
`23:47.15`	`Kubi`	`What do you guys think`
`23:47.17`	`JademusSreg`	`=D`
`23:47.17`	`Kubi`	`dumb idea`
`23:47.18`	`Kubi`	`?`
`23:47.22`	`Otixa`	`Yes`
`23:47.25`	`Otixa`	`slaps JademusSreg around a bit with a large trout`
`23:47.28`	`JademusSreg`	`<3`
`23:47.29`	`Kubi`	`you werent here asshole`
`23:47.31`	`Otixa`	`;D`
`23:47.34`	`Kubi`	`Otixa, I was talking about my hostage crisis map`
`23:47.50`	`Otixa`	`Ah, well, I told you what I think about that already`
`23:47.58`	`Kubi`	`You thought it was a good idea`
`23:47.58`	`Kubi`	`yes?`
`23:48.07`	`Otixa`	`Could be fun, but trollable`
`23:48.11`	`Kubi`	`yes`
`23:48.15`	`Kubi`	`and thats what the rating system is for`
`23:48.22`	`Kubi`	`YOLO SWAG YOLO`
`23:48.27`	`Otixa`	`>:\|`
`23:48.34`	`JademusSreg`	`Not gonna work.`
`23:48.36`	`Kubi`	`UNLOCKED RATING 9000: GAINED BRUCE WILLIS`
`23:48.44`	`A1win`	`I wouldn't play a roleplaying game with total strangers`
`23:48.51`	`Otixa`	`^`
`23:48.52`	`Triceron`	`trolls don't play to win!`
`23:48.54`	`Kubi`	`http://movies.themoviebox.net/images/hostage/main.jpg`
`23:49.12`	`Otixa`	`PLAY TO WIN`
`23:49.14`	`Otixa`	`TILL YOU DIE`
`23:49.19`	`Otixa`	`NANANA NANA NANAAAAAAAAAAAA`
`23:49.22`	`Kubi`	`OR I CAN MAKE MY FUCKING RPG`
`23:49.22`	`JademusSreg`	`Even if rating were super-difficult to get, they will still troll. Even veteran players will start trolling if they get booooored.`
`23:49.41`	`Otixa`	`trolls JademusSreg`
`23:49.43`	`JademusSreg`	`Do the thing you enjoy the most.`
`23:49.49`	`Kubi`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnh81873HwA`
`23:49.50`	`Kubi`	`FUCK IT`
`23:50.03`	`Kubi`	`RAINBOW GUMMY NYDUS WORMS`
`23:50.08`	`Kubi`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD8_4qDCVRk`
`23:50.10`	`Otixa`	`lawl`
`23:50.10`	`Kubi`	`Heeres my rpg map`
`23:50.12`	`JademusSreg`	`enjoys artfully executed trolling.`
`23:50.28`	`A1win`	`if you can form a community for the map, it might work, otherwise I don't foresee a bright future`
`23:50.54`	`A1win`	`...or if a community forms for it`
`23:51.11`	`Otixa`	`A troll community`
`23:51.15`	`Otixa`	`A troll utopia!`
`23:51.18`	`Otixa`	`A trolltopia!`
`23:51.22`	`JademusSreg`	`Woo.`
`23:51.32`	`Deaod`	`where everyones a troll and noone falls for them?`
`23:51.38`	`Otixa`	`Yes`
`23:52.09`	`JademusSreg`	`If the former meant the latter, 4chan wouldn't be so popular.`
`23:52.11`	`Deaod`	`wait, that shouldve said everyone`
`23:52.24`	`Deaod`	`also`
`23:52.39`	`Kubi`	`Well A1Win`
`23:52.41`	`Kubi`	`How about that rpg map`
`23:52.42`	`Kubi`	`in the video`
`23:52.45`	`Deaod`	`A wild Deaod appears out of fucking nowhere`
`23:52.49`	`Kubi`	`lots of pew pew for people who like it`
`23:53.03`	`Otixa`	`hits Deaod with a frying pan`
`23:53.08`	`Otixa`	`TF2 mothafucka`
`23:53.37`	`JademusSreg`	`deploys a Neil Patrick Harris to battle a wild Deaod.`
`23:53.49`	`A1win`	`what about the map in the video`
`23:54.13`	`A1win`	`what I just said about forming a community probably applies to any RP map`
`23:54.27`	`Otixa`	`Cummutiny`
`23:54.31`	`Taintedwisp`	`Yo QueenG was that you who said that between the bases was too Busy?`
`23:54.41`	`Kubi`	`A1Win, you didnt see the video`
`23:54.47`	`Kubi`	`It's not an RP map`
`23:54.51`	`Kubi`	`It's an RPG with lots of action`
`23:54.54`	`Kubi`	`what dumb people on b.net like`
`23:54.55`	`A1win`	`oh`
`23:55.11`	`A1win`	`you're misusing the phrase "RPG" in a conversation about RPs <.<`
`23:55.32`	`Kubi`	`its my second map`
`23:55.51`	`Otixa`	`Action game`
`23:55.57`	`Otixa`	`:BBBBBBBBBB`
`23:56.10`	`Otixa`	`Get your shit together`
`23:56.13`	`Kubi`	`ya`
`23:56.14`	`Kubi`	`what`
`23:56.29`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Dustin-Phone (~Dustin@81.sub-174-253-133.myvzw.com)`
`23:56.35`	`Dustin-Phone`	`woot`
`23:56.58`	`A1win`	`if we're talking about role playing, it's easy to confuse "RPG" to mean a game where you roleplay, instead of what you actually mean by itt`
`23:57.01`	`A1win`	`*it`
`23:57.14`	`Kubi`	`Yeah I have my hostage crisis map`
`23:57.21`	`Kubi`	`and my action rpg map with a gunship in it`
`23:58.03`	`A1win`	`yeah`
`23:58.12`	`Taintedwisp`	`what Dustin?`
`23:58.50`	`Otixa`	`Well`
`23:58.55`	`Otixa`	`Your definition of RPG is off`
`23:59.00`	`Otixa`	`By your logic`
`23:59.06`	`Otixa`	`Modern Warfare is an RPG`
`23:59.08`	`Otixa`	`:B`
`23:59.25`	`Kubi`	`Well you can level up and get item upgrades`
`23:59.31`	`Taintedwisp`	`what...`
`23:59.51`	`Otixa`	`Like in Modern Warfare`
`23:59.52`	`Kubi`	`nvm`
`23:59.53`	`Taintedwisp`	`Leveling up and getting upgrades are not what make an RPG an RPG..`
`23:59.53`	`Otixa`	`:OOOO`
`23:59.58`	`A1win`	`Otixa, no it's not, you're just thinking he means a map where you roleplay, but I'm pretty sure he means the same thing with RPG as you think it means`

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