| 00:00.46 | Ahli | EU server has login problems |
| 00:01.12 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | well it is tuesday |
| 00:02.01 | Kubi | imisuuuuuu |
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| 00:02.14 | Zolden | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx: is it the same model? |
| 00:02.25 | Zolden | and all textures are in the same place in both cases? |
| 00:02.29 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | yes |
| 00:02.37 | iMisu | Kubi |
| 00:02.39 | Kubi | Yes |
| 00:02.39 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | same model in different files one is a mod and othe a map |
| 00:02.40 | iMisu | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/player-zone/map-suggestions-requests/47698-teamplay-ii-king-of-the-hill/#p7 |
| 00:02.49 | Zolden | have you restarted editor before checking? |
| 00:02.53 | iMisu | At work sometimes take a Se ond to reply |
| 00:02.55 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | the locations are identicle |
| 00:02.58 | Kubi | I'm looking for more campaign esque type terrain |
| 00:02.59 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | yes |
| 00:03.05 | Kubi | I show u examples |
| 00:03.09 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | had to close and open again to get those pics |
| 00:03.10 | iMisu | I can do that |
| 00:03.23 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | it happens with other models too |
| 00:03.24 | Kubi | It's for a linear rpg |
| 00:03.36 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | actually any model with any sort of transparency |
| 00:03.43 | Zolden | dunno thien |
| 00:03.49 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | its wierd |
| 00:03.50 | Zolden | is it hots? |
| 00:04.00 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | no ill try it in there |
| 00:04.22 | Zolden | oh |
| 00:04.27 | Zolden | i know what is the problem |
| 00:04.32 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | what is it |
| 00:04.45 | Zolden | mod doesn't have proper light on in the cutscene edtor |
| 00:04.50 | Zolden | so models look darker |
| 00:04.56 | Zolden | u shouldn't are about |
| 00:05.02 | iMisu | Kubi |
| 00:05.13 | iMisu | I can terrain for you |
| 00:05.14 | Zolden | it will loook fine being placed on map |
| 00:05.15 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | but what explains the lack of transparency |
| 00:05.28 | Kubi | Yea |
| 00:05.31 | Kubi | ? |
| 00:05.33 | Kubi | I show u what I have done |
| 00:05.34 | iMisu | Ya |
| 00:05.39 | iMisu | Okay |
| 00:05.45 | Zolden | it's just the absence of light within cutscene editor if you have a mod opened |
| 00:05.48 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | like i have a model in there with screwed up tranparency and on map it appears half transparent |
| 00:06.10 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ill make a pic with it in map few minutes |
| 00:06.21 | Zolden | on map it will look the same after you add the mod as a dependancy |
| 00:06.37 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | im prety sure it wont work but i will see |
| 00:06.56 | Zolden | i had that dark thing, and it worked well |
| 00:07.01 | Kubi | uploading pic |
| 00:07.14 | toboe | has anyone gotten the sc2interface observer ui to work in the beta? |
| 00:07.21 | Kubi | Cool thing about it iMisu if you take this task |
| 00:07.28 | Kubi | You can have most freedom |
| 00:07.37 | Kubi | and give me ideas |
| 00:07.41 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ill try |
| 00:07.44 | iMisu | Okay |
| 00:07.51 | Kubi | http://i.imgur.com/eWZQIeT.jpg |
| 00:07.55 | Kubi | thats what it looks like now |
| 00:07.56 | iMisu | You be on in 5 hours? |
| 00:08.03 | Kubi | yea i got a raid |
| 00:08.05 | Kubi | but i see it |
| 00:08.20 | Kubi | u can see how terrible I am |
| 00:08.29 | Kubi | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:08.32 | Kubi | D: |
| 00:08.39 | iMisu | I like korhal |
| 00:08.49 | Kubi | ITS NOT KORHAL |
| 00:08.49 | iMisu | Do you mind korhal? |
| 00:08.56 | Kubi | It's haven |
| 00:09.00 | iMisu | ... I know it's not |
| 00:09.04 | Kubi | oh |
| 00:09.08 | iMisu | Korhal looks neat |
| 00:09.12 | Kubi | Well I'm trying to go for a jungle theme |
| 00:11.22 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | Zolden |
| 00:11.38 | Kubi | iMisu |
| 00:11.57 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/artist-tavern/47879-why-does-this-happen/#p1 it does it in game |
| 00:12.03 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | if the model is in a mod |
| 00:12.07 | Kubi | It's going to be a big map. |
| 00:12.14 | Kubi | 256x256 |
| 00:12.20 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | thats a nice size |
| 00:12.35 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | im glad they fixed the map preview issue |
| 00:12.54 | Kubi | It's a linear rpg so I need it to be |
| 00:12.58 | Kubi | otherwise it be over too qucik |
| 00:13.01 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ya i have one too |
| 00:13.12 | Kubi | I don't particular like open rpgs |
| 00:13.13 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | also have random dungeon generator |
| 00:13.22 | Kubi | It's just like heres a hero go have fun. |
| 00:13.37 | Kubi | it's like a classic wc3 rpg |
| 00:13.51 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | im remaking diablo 2 |
| 00:13.53 | Kubi | fight fight fight, hit town, shop, continue, boss.. |
| 00:13.54 | Kubi | oh |
| 00:13.54 | Kubi | yeah |
| 00:13.58 | Kubi | mines sc2 themed |
| 00:14.08 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | im trying to keep it updated |
| 00:14.12 | Kubi | continue fight fight town, miniboss, fight fight big boss. |
| 00:14.15 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | model wise trying tio use d3 models |
| 00:14.39 | Kubi | ah |
| 00:14.49 | Kubi | I don't go that far indepth with things like that |
| 00:14.52 | Kubi | modelling and what not |
| 00:15.10 | Zolden | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx: I would say that model can't find its alpha texture |
| 00:15.25 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | but it works fine if store in a map |
| 00:15.26 | Zolden | but there could ba different explainations |
| 00:15.40 | Zolden | ok, dunno |
| 00:15.42 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i enjoy modeling |
| 00:15.48 | Zolden | u created it? |
| 00:15.50 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | thats what i thought ill tery it in hots |
| 00:15.54 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | yes |
| 00:16.52 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | dont give me all credit its a rip from d3 but i created the animations |
| 00:17.28 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | and d3 conversion only supports un animated models |
| 00:19.12 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | damn still have the issue in hots |
| 00:19.18 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | editor* |
| 00:22.51 | Daara | how are you extracting from d3? |
| 00:23.22 | Daara | ah nvm'd thought it was something else |
| 00:23.29 | Daara | it's an alpha channel issue |
| 00:24.21 | Daara | go into the alpha channel and lay down an 80% or more overlay on it |
| 00:24.31 | Daara | should brighten it up |
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| 00:25.01 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | Daara why does the alpha work when it is in a map |
| 00:25.08 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | and not in a mod |
| 00:25.40 | Daara | wait, it's working fine when it's in the map? |
| 00:25.59 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | yup |
| 00:26.04 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | the images show it all |
| 00:26.18 | Daara | is it fine when it's placed in the world? |
| 00:26.22 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | its like the mod file cannot support any alpha channels |
| 00:26.29 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | yes if it is a map |
| 00:26.32 | Otixa_ | Ha! Found the bug! :D |
| 00:26.39 | Daara | step on it |
| 00:26.43 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol |
| 00:26.45 | Daara | that i couldn't tell you |
| 00:26.55 | Daara | it's not an alpha channel issue then |
| 00:26.59 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i know i think blizz should address this |
| 00:27.01 | Daara | because mine work just fine |
| 00:27.20 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | did you say you have a transparent model in a mod work |
| 00:27.37 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | well model with transparency |
| 00:28.09 | Daara | not exactly transparent but i use alpha masks to cut out the alpha channel |
| 00:28.18 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ya thats what i mean |
| 00:28.28 | Daara | yea they all work fine |
| 00:28.29 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | but you have that in a mod and it renders properly |
| 00:28.31 | Daara | for me atleast |
| 00:28.33 | Daara | yep |
| 00:28.36 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | hmmm |
| 00:28.48 | Daara | how many textures does it use? |
| 00:28.49 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i could send you my model and could you try it |
| 00:28.53 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | 3 |
| 00:29.01 | Daara | could be that one is in the wrong directory |
| 00:29.08 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | no |
| 00:29.17 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | it wouldnt show if not |
| 00:29.19 | Daara | then again when exported from 3ds they should all be Assets/Textures |
| 00:29.28 | Daara | or whatever you set it to |
| 00:29.38 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ya |
| 00:29.38 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | do you want to see my model |
| 00:29.38 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i have it uploaded |
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| 00:29.51 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | it is assets/textures |
| 00:30.01 | Otixa | hmmm |
| 00:30.03 | Daara | give me a few i'm headed to eat right now |
| 00:30.13 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok |
| 00:33.48 | Kubi | Otixa you said you like that Hostage Crisis idea for a map? |
| 00:34.09 | Otixa | Uhh, yeah, it was alright, but seems like people could ruin it by being fail |
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| 00:39.05 | Kubi | Well |
| 00:39.07 | Kubi | If people troll |
| 00:39.13 | Kubi | they will force to be hostages |
| 00:39.34 | Otixa | :D |
| 00:39.36 | Kubi | therefor they cannot "troll" as hostage |
| 00:39.44 | Kubi | I am making it so you start with 1000 rating |
| 00:39.51 | Kubi | if ur under that then your a hostage |
| 00:40.46 | Kubi | And you cant just simply walk out to be rescued |
| 00:40.53 | Kubi | because terrorists have shove ability |
| 00:45.55 | tordy | wassup godDAMNIT |
| 00:50.33 | toboe | has anyone gotten the *.sc2Interface to work in HotS? |
| 01:00.29 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | daara |
| 01:02.46 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | hey Deletarius |
| 01:04.16 | Kubi | Holy shit |
| 01:04.22 | Kubi | It's deletarious |
| 01:04.27 | Kubi | I thought he forgot about us |
| 01:05.01 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | is he a blizz rep |
| 01:05.49 | tordy | Otixa scared blizz away |
| 01:08.18 | Dogmai | ..|., Otixa |
| 01:09.24 | Daara | back |
| 01:09.47 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/diablo-3-waypoint/ |
| 01:10.24 | Daara | it figures the day i'm on irc the least is the day deletarius shows up :P |
| 01:10.42 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | if it doesnt work for you could you instruct me on how to make the alpha maps properly |
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| 01:11.06 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | he isnt talking dont feel bad |
| 01:12.02 | Daara | i can't download it -_- |
| 01:12.21 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | why not |
| 01:14.19 | Otixa | lal |
| 01:14.52 | Daara | it has no file lol |
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| 01:18.39 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | sorry bad internet |
| 01:18.41 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8923139/Waypoint%20Finished.zip |
| 01:18.43 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | try that |
| 01:20.34 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | Daara? |
| 01:29.16 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | Daara? |
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| 01:34.26 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | daara |
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| 01:34.59 | Otixa | :B |
| 01:35.05 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8923139/Waypoint%20Finished.zip |
| 01:35.20 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | try that in a mod to see if it works |
| 01:36.28 | RiFT | o.O |
| 01:36.52 | MapsterBot | herpderp |
| 01:38.35 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/artist-tavern/47879-why-does-this-happen/#p1 |
| 01:40.03 | KingPopsicle | Who pissed off imisu |
| 01:40.03 | KingPopsicle | ? |
| 01:40.09 | KingPopsicle | haha |
| 01:40.17 | KingPopsicle | am I an asshole? |
| 01:40.27 | Otixa | Yes you are ;p |
| 01:40.47 | KingPopsicle | I would like to think I am more of an attention whore then an asshole :P |
| 01:41.00 | Otixa | You can be both for bonus points :D |
| 01:41.07 | RiFT | ^ |
| 01:41.07 | KingPopsicle | Ahhh just got back from Hibachi Grill :D |
| 01:41.10 | KingPopsicle | Great stuff |
| 01:41.21 | KingPopsicle | Habachi* |
| 01:41.31 | iMisu | Zolden. |
| 01:41.31 | Otixa | Hamachi! ;p |
| 01:41.32 | KingPopsicle | nvm |
| 01:41.35 | KingPopsicle | Had it right the first time |
| 01:41.36 | KingPopsicle | :P |
| 01:41.50 | KingPopsicle | Is it bad the Cooks know my entire family by name :P |
| 01:42.02 | Otixa | fatass ;p |
| 01:42.05 | KingPopsicle | love some chiness food.:P |
| 01:42.06 | Otixa | Now... |
| 01:42.15 | iMisu | He on ignore. |
| 01:42.15 | Otixa | Need to fix the packet parser |
| 01:42.19 | KingPopsicle | No its because when we go there we ask them to make sushi Specifically. |
| 01:42.19 | Otixa | Oooorrr... |
| 01:42.19 | KingPopsicle | :P |
| 01:42.27 | KingPopsicle | am I on ignore imisu :( |
| 01:42.28 | Otixa | ...Fix the socket buffers... |
| 01:42.42 | KingPopsicle | Chinese* |
| 01:42.43 | Otixa | Oooorrr... Implement runtime code compilation from external files |
| 01:42.57 | Otixa | And somehow link them into the packet handler |
| 01:42.59 | KingPopsicle | imisu no love me any more now I am sad ;( |
| 01:42.59 | Otixa | @_@ |
| 01:43.13 | Otixa | gloats |
| 01:43.28 | Taintedwisp | you made taintedwisp wanna cry :(( |
| 01:43.36 | Otixa | homo ;p |
| 01:43.39 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 01:43.59 | Otixa | hmm |
| 01:43.59 | Taintedwisp | I would reply Otixa but an old promise prohibits me to go on that topic :( |
| 01:44.08 | Otixa | Should prolly add timestamps to packet structures |
| 01:44.36 | Otixa | tired of code now >:C |
| 01:45.56 | Taintedwisp | so IMisu hows your project going? someone told me your data was screwy? |
| 01:46.18 | MapsterBot | like yer face ;D |
| 01:46.25 | Taintedwisp | MapsterBot is a bitchass |
| 01:46.25 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 01:46.43 | MapsterBot | :> |
| 01:46.49 | Taintedwisp | Some bucket head must have programmed it.. |
| 01:46.56 | Otixa | fu >:[ |
| 01:46.58 | Taintedwisp | damn meat heads... they ruined the internet |
| 01:46.59 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 01:47.10 | Otixa | srsly tho |
| 01:47.19 | Otixa | This is gonna be really handy when it's finished |
| 01:47.27 | Otixa | And I can use it as an IRC client meanwhie :D |
| 01:47.29 | Taintedwisp | whats it going to do, besides troll? |
| 01:47.40 | Otixa | It'll parse what people are saying |
| 01:47.44 | Otixa | Determine if it's a question |
| 01:47.52 | Otixa | And search a database for an answer |
| 01:47.54 | Otixa | So in short |
| 01:48.00 | Otixa | It'll answer mapping specific questions |
| 01:48.06 | Taintedwisp | ahhh |
| 01:48.07 | Otixa | ;D |
| 01:48.12 | Taintedwisp | Dont link it to Sc2mapster search function |
| 01:48.18 | Otixa | Why not? ;o |
| 01:48.20 | Taintedwisp | it will never find anything even close to relevent |
| 01:48.26 | Otixa | Bah |
| 01:48.28 | Taintedwisp | Because mapster search function is BROKEN |
| 01:48.40 | Otixa | I'll make it so that people who have permission can add to it's knowledgebase |
| 01:48.43 | Taintedwisp | sixen has alerted curse over a year ago from what I have been told |
| 01:48.50 | Taintedwisp | ahh cool |
| 01:48.56 | Taintedwisp | You might be able to make it scour the Wiki now |
| 01:49.03 | Sixen | yeah |
| 01:49.04 | Taintedwisp | but dont let it use the sc2mapster search |
| 01:49.04 | Otixa | neh, too much work |
| 01:49.05 | Sixen | 3 years ago |
| 01:49.13 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 01:49.17 | Taintedwisp | curse fail |
| 01:49.17 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 01:49.21 | Otixa | smacks Sixen |
| 01:49.36 | Otixa | Hey Sixen, got any beta keys for hots left? ;p |
| 01:49.38 | Taintedwisp | yo sixen I saw your tweet what kind of E-Sports you trying to get into, which aspect? |
| 01:49.39 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | atleast we have sc2mapster.com thank you sixen |
| 01:49.56 | Sixen | HTFFKV-8DZ8-KP9GEY-4WBV-MKGBGF |
| 01:50.03 | Otixa | ;D |
| 01:50.05 | Otixa | thanks |
| 01:50.08 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol |
| 01:50.11 | Taintedwisp | better hurry |
| 01:50.11 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 01:50.14 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | got one more |
| 01:50.22 | Sixen | Tainted: Not really sure, I can do a lot, I just don't know what to focus on. |
| 01:50.24 | Sixen | NPWBFP-8MGH-RGGMTG-TZKD-6XHRKK |
| 01:50.27 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | would like to give to my friend |
| 01:50.35 | Otixa | Need for gf ;p |
| 01:50.46 | Exaken | How many beta keys do you have left? lol |
| 01:50.53 | Exaken | just curious |
| 01:50.54 | Sixen | a bunch |
| 01:51.11 | Taintedwisp | Ahhh, What you might wanna consider doing is start building your own fanbase, It couldnt hurt, release at minimum weekly News letters on blizzard and such couldnt hurt or start some kind of something I dunno just to get more supporters behind you |
| 01:51.11 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | can you pm it to me so i can give it to my friend |
| 01:51.23 | Sixen | just copy/paste it, o_o |
| 01:51.42 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ya but wont some one steal it |
| 01:51.43 | Taintedwisp | the more people that know about you the better chances :P |
| 01:51.44 | Sixen | Tainted: Yeah, I've got some fans behind me from my Diablo videos with EG and now my all-stars videos |
| 01:51.49 | Sixen | dragon: nah doubt it |
| 01:51.51 | Taintedwisp | Ah cool |
| 01:51.54 | Sixen | most people here have beta already |
| 01:51.57 | Taintedwisp | maybe start something a bit more stable :P |
| 01:52.08 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i see |
| 01:52.09 | Sixen | that's the idea, =P |
| 01:52.19 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | thank you btw |
| 01:52.19 | Taintedwisp | ill support ya :P haha |
| 01:52.20 | Otixa | Well, I gave her both keys, so whichever works |
| 01:52.22 | Otixa | shrugs |
| 01:52.30 | Taintedwisp | you let me troll for an entire year without being banned once haha |
| 01:52.32 | Sixen | ^^ |
| 01:52.43 | Otixa | lal |
| 01:53.06 | Otixa | Sixen, so what ya up to nowadays? |
| 01:53.43 | Sixen | nothing |
| 01:53.50 | Otixa | slacker >:| |
| 01:53.50 | Sixen | graduating this semester, looking for jobs |
| 01:53.51 | Taintedwisp | I hope someday blizzard host an E-Sports Team tournament for 4v4 games or even 2v2 games, WOULD BE AMAZING |
| 01:53.56 | Otixa | ah, neat |
| 01:54.00 | Sixen | nah, more than happy to put in the work. just need to find somewhere to do it |
| 01:54.01 | Otixa | I'm graduating too :B |
| 01:54.12 | Sixen | 4v4 tournaments wouldn't work, but 2v2 could |
| 01:54.51 | Taintedwisp | I always thought that if a team game was actually done with people who have stratagies that compliment each other, rather then just doing their 1v1 stratagies then it could be a really cool experience to watch |
| 01:54.53 | Daara | got another sixen? lol |
| 01:54.59 | Taintedwisp | but at low level play its impossible to pull off |
| 01:55.08 | Sixen | 8ZW6C9-NG27-2EKJXR-9RWF-VGHCJK |
| 01:55.41 | Sixen | which is why 2v2 would work and 4v4 wouldn't |
| 01:55.44 | motive | what's that? |
| 01:55.51 | Sixen | 4v4 would be "mass, mass, mass, mass, epic battle, someone wins" |
| 01:55.52 | motive | HOTS key or something? haha |
| 01:55.55 | Taintedwisp | hah, hey sixen could you email me one, Both of my brothers have it but our cousin who we play with a lot doesnt but I dont know his account / pass so I would have to give it to him later |
| 01:55.57 | Sixen | 2v2 would require some more strategy |
| 01:56.06 | iMisu | Taintedwisp my data is not edited its all default |
| 01:56.10 | Sixen | copy/paste it and save it for later :P |
| 01:56.24 | Sixen | ETPJ9E-HJ97-9BWJEZ-K86Z-9JMRZ7 |
| 01:56.29 | Taintedwisp | ok |
| 01:56.31 | Daara | thanks :D |
| 01:56.34 | Sixen | np guys |
| 01:56.57 | Daara | i can't wait for star tools to come out |
| 01:57.34 | Daara | I have an $0.76 blizzard account balance :c |
| 01:57.38 | Sixen | lol |
| 01:57.45 | Daara | wtf can i buy with that? |
| 01:58.14 | Otixa | a really bad 3rd world hooker |
| 01:58.39 | Daara | aren't the cheap ones the best though? |
| 01:58.58 | Daara | i mean they may not be clean, but the sure know what they're doing |
| 01:59.11 | Otixa | Blizz-Deletarius, you there? :c |
| 01:59.20 | Daara | its 6pm he's off |
| 01:59.28 | Daara | left his pc on again probably |
| 01:59.35 | Otixa | bah ¬¬ |
| 01:59.45 | Taintedwisp | thanks sixen |
| 01:59.46 | Otixa | gf managed to get her account locked |
| 01:59.48 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | sixen that key you gave me didnt work |
| 01:59.51 | Otixa | cool shit |
| 02:00.04 | Exaken | someone ninja'd it lol |
| 02:00.12 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ya :( |
| 02:00.14 | Daara | i got banned for someone posting a bunch of my facebook photos on my WoW realm forums |
| 02:00.22 | Daara | perma |
| 02:00.31 | Otixa | lol |
| 02:00.39 | Daara | and when they banned my wow account they deleted all of my sc2 posts as well |
| 02:00.42 | Daara | -_- |
| 02:00.54 | Daara | and the best part |
| 02:00.57 | Daara | the guys that did it |
| 02:01.00 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | did that model work |
| 02:01.00 | Daara | only got a 3 day |
| 02:01.04 | Daara | i'm checking it out now |
| 02:01.08 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok |
| 02:04.26 | Daara | Before they switched over to the new forum system I was perma banned because the Shaman Community Manager Tseric deleted my informative post on how Shamans were getting screwed on a change more so than any other class. |
| 02:04.37 | Daara | He told me to familiarize myself with the code of conduct. |
| 02:04.54 | Daara | I told him I was within the code of conduct and that he should familiarize his mouth on my dick. |
| 02:05.19 | Daara | I didn't get banned until people started making threads quoting me... |
| 02:05.21 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ey sixen how did you get the keys |
| 02:06.23 | Sixen | hax |
| 02:06.31 | Sixen | they're from mapster, I just hadn't given them all away yet |
| 02:06.47 | Sixen | blizzard asked me to give them out to community members who would use them... and chances are, if you're in the mapster irc, you'll use it |
| 02:06.50 | Daara | Sixen has Blizzard in his back pocket. |
| 02:07.59 | motive | Sixen: i'm stealing all the keys and selling them on ebay |
| 02:07.59 | Daara | it looks dark in the mod atm |
| 02:08.07 | Daara | i've already used one key :D |
| 02:08.24 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol nice well the codes were sniped before i could get it but thanks anyways |
| 02:08.25 | Sixen | well, I mean.... just use the one I gave you after you asked |
| 02:08.28 | Sixen | don't be dicks and steal other keys :P |
| 02:08.33 | Otixa | gf got her account locked, so can't use key >:| |
| 02:08.37 | Sixen | QQ |
| 02:08.46 | motive | I already have my beta key so I dont need any :) |
| 02:08.53 | Daara | i use to let people use my account |
| 02:09.02 | Daara | until one of them had a keylogger |
| 02:09.03 | motive | scumbag sc2mapster: gives away keys to a room no one can use them in |
| 02:09.10 | Otixa | xD |
| 02:09.18 | Sixen | lol |
| 02:09.28 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i tried sixen but sadly it said it was used |
| 02:10.31 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | hey daara you get it yet |
| 02:10.56 | Sixen | which did you try dragon? |
| 02:11.07 | Sixen | everyone that asked, I gave one |
| 02:11.24 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i tried the 2 that i saw |
| 02:11.45 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | didnt notice 3rd |
| 02:11.57 | Daara | its dark in the mod i'm viewing it in |
| 02:12.05 | Daara | going to try placing it in a different map |
| 02:13.08 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | does it show any transparency in the mod |
| 02:13.18 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | like the borders |
| 02:13.36 | *** join/#sc2mapster Taintedwisp (4bb54181@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.181.65.129) |
| 02:13.39 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjhSkr2bjYo |
| 02:13.40 | Taintedwisp | DAMN |
| 02:13.41 | Taintedwisp | Nice Spec |
| 02:13.45 | Taintedwisp | besides the RAM |
| 02:13.49 | Taintedwisp | the RAM IS CRAP |
| 02:13.50 | Taintedwisp | WTF |
| 02:13.53 | Taintedwisp | 8 BG? |
| 02:13.54 | Taintedwisp | GB |
| 02:14.03 | Taintedwisp | Thats shit for something thats built to last 10 yearas |
| 02:14.06 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol im running 32 on my lappy |
| 02:14.15 | Taintedwisp | the Processor is amazing |
| 02:14.19 | Exaken | I've 8 GB in my pc, more then enoguh |
| 02:14.23 | Exaken | enough* |
| 02:14.30 | Taintedwisp | 8.1 Ghz 6-8 cores I wasnt paying too much attention |
| 02:14.31 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i only have an 2.5 ghz i7 |
| 02:14.56 | Taintedwisp | oh I miss heard |
| 02:14.59 | Taintedwisp | 8 1.6 cores |
| 02:15.02 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 02:15.06 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i do alot of modeling more ram = faster plus vmware |
| 02:15.12 | Taintedwisp | I knew that 8.1 GHZ sounded a bit too much haha |
| 02:15.26 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | 1.6 is slow tainted |
| 02:15.43 | Taintedwisp | but theres 8 of them :P |
| 02:15.48 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i have 8 |
| 02:15.52 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | 2.5 |
| 02:15.57 | Otixa | You guys are forgetting |
| 02:16.04 | Otixa | The specs are really good for a console |
| 02:16.14 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | its a console i cant watch the vid |
| 02:16.15 | Otixa | Consoles have special processors for specific crap |
| 02:16.34 | Otixa | So it mitigates the fact that the CPUs are slower |
| 02:16.40 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ya well then thats good |
| 02:16.47 | Otixa | Because they can natively perform game specific operations ;p |
| 02:16.51 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 02:16.56 | Otixa | Also, 8gig of RAM is more than enough |
| 02:16.57 | Daara | its dark in the mod and in map for me =\ |
| 02:17.02 | Otixa | Due to lack of concurrent applications |
| 02:17.05 | Otixa | And memory streaming |
| 02:17.07 | Taintedwisp | hahah The Leaked PS4 Speccs BEAT EVERYTHING in the Xbox 720 specs |
| 02:17.14 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | for a console ya im prety sure the x360 had 1 -2 gb |
| 02:17.48 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | it works in a map file if it was uploaded to the map |
| 02:17.52 | Taintedwisp | Dont like the leaked PS4 controller nor the look |
| 02:18.02 | Taintedwisp | Both are crap but hopefully those pictures were fake |
| 02:18.03 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | what settings are you using for your apha maps |
| 02:18.48 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | that makes your models work |
| 02:19.06 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | thank you btw sixen |
| 02:19.10 | Sixen | np |
| 02:20.25 | Daara | I have some of the original xbox controllers....they were massive fuck ya! love the duke! |
| 02:20.49 | Kubi | DELEARITUS |
| 02:20.51 | Kubi | I <3 U |
| 02:21.26 | Daara | I see nothign wrong with your textures |
| 02:21.40 | Daara | it must be how you applied them in Max |
| 02:21.41 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ya why is it doing it |
| 02:21.51 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | can you check that |
| 02:21.59 | Taintedwisp | http://news.yahoo.com/27th-amendment-gets-publicity-budget-battle-111609688.html AND I AM BACK ON THE GOP SIDE... |
| 02:22.06 | Taintedwisp | Finnaly some fucking intelligence from them |
| 02:22.09 | Daara | give me the .max file |
| 02:22.13 | Daara | and i'll look |
| 02:22.19 | Daara | actually |
| 02:22.20 | Daara | nvm |
| 02:22.23 | Daara | i can do it without it |
| 02:22.23 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i never made a max file just import the .m3 |
| 02:22.28 | Taintedwisp | Their bill states that No one in congress shall be paid after a certain date until a REAL budget is passed.... |
| 02:23.04 | Daara | i don't think anyone who works for the government should get paid unless they do a good job |
| 02:23.15 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | this model was made dirty btw to get the brightness anuimation to work |
| 02:23.15 | Daara | if you're fucking up our country, screw you |
| 02:23.39 | Taintedwisp | exactly |
| 02:23.44 | Daara | all a bunch of crooks atm |
| 02:23.45 | motive | Daara: but by who's definition is it a bad job? |
| 02:23.46 | Taintedwisp | I agree with that part of this fucking bill... |
| 02:23.55 | motive | it's dangerous |
| 02:23.55 | Taintedwisp | if you cant do your fucking job you dont get paid for it... |
| 02:23.56 | Daara | my definition' |
| 02:23.58 | Daara | i will judge them all! |
| 02:23.59 | motive | and that bill is also unconstitutional |
| 02:24.05 | motive | unconstitutional* |
| 02:24.13 | Taintedwisp | No it isnt |
| 02:24.21 | Taintedwisp | They didnt CHANGE the congresses pay, but only are withholding it |
| 02:24.25 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | canada has a bunch of pussies as our leader |
| 02:24.29 | motive | plus it's symbolic only |
| 02:24.42 | Taintedwisp | If you pay me 7% an hour for 30 hours of work but withhold the paycheck for 2 weeks later are you changing my pay? |
| 02:24.56 | Taintedwisp | 7$ and hour* |
| 02:24.59 | motive | do you think the congressmen generally live off their paychecks anyways? |
| 02:25.00 | Taintedwisp | just an example |
| 02:25.00 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | brb |
| 02:25.00 | RiFT | yes? |
| 02:25.03 | motive | it's a stunt, and it's stupid anyways |
| 02:25.04 | Taintedwisp | I know |
| 02:25.20 | Taintedwisp | but its symbolic... and Symbolism is important |
| 02:25.28 | motive | not when it's meaningless |
| 02:25.36 | Taintedwisp | If a greedy bastard isnt getting paid even if hes got enough money, then hes going to do what needs to be done |
| 02:25.53 | motive | better scenario: |
| 02:26.03 | motive | a man makes $400K/yr from investment income |
| 02:26.11 | motive | you take away $60K/yr but a lobbyist offers him a yacht if he votes a certain way |
| 02:26.14 | motive | you withhold his pay |
| 02:26.18 | motive | you really think it's going to make a difference? |
| 02:26.41 | Taintedwisp | Its Symbolic, but at the same time it can have some effects on people.. |
| 02:26.42 | motive | and since it's withholding only, he knows he'll get his money anyways, plus interest, later. |
| 02:26.50 | motive | 'some effects on people' ... other than those in office ;) |
| 02:27.05 | Taintedwisp | I know people right now who drive an extra 20 miles to save 2 dollars on 1 item, and they are not hurting for money or anything. |
| 02:27.19 | Taintedwisp | Greedy people will always do what needs to be done for a dollar |
| 02:27.24 | motive | I'm the kind of guy who spends $20 extra to avoid a minor inconvenience |
| 02:27.25 | motive | I'm greedy |
| 02:27.27 | motive | so is congress |
| 02:27.30 | motive | they don't give a shit about their salaries |
| 02:27.51 | Taintedwisp | Whats pissing me off is 1 thing |
| 02:27.51 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | daara see any issues |
| 02:28.01 | Taintedwisp | THE FUCKING JOURNALIST ARE THE ONES FIGHTING THE FUCKING BILL |
| 02:28.08 | Taintedwisp | Whatever happend to unbiased reporting... |
| 02:28.20 | Taintedwisp | Now they just suck a parties dick ... |
| 02:28.21 | motive | I'm glad they're fighting it |
| 02:28.26 | Daara | for your waypointbase.dds |
| 02:28.28 | motive | it's stupid, symbolism only, doesn't solve the actual issue. |
| 02:28.30 | Daara | you have it as alpha blend |
| 02:28.36 | Daara | in max |
| 02:28.41 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | yes |
| 02:28.43 | Daara | change it to opaque with a cutout of 1 |
| 02:28.53 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | that will fix it |
| 02:28.56 | Daara | i don't know |
| 02:28.57 | Taintedwisp | No but when both sides refuse to do their job it atleast gives me some piece of mind that they arent getting paid for sitting on their ass doing nothing |
| 02:29.02 | motive | Constitutionally we're still required to pay them so it's a moot point. |
| 02:29.04 | motive | They just get paid later. |
| 02:29.08 | Taintedwisp | yeah I know |
| 02:29.10 | Daara | i'll check myself though too |
| 02:29.10 | Taintedwisp | But still... |
| 02:29.11 | motive | It fixes nothing and they get to look good for it. |
| 02:29.12 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok ill do that 1 min |
| 02:29.17 | motive | Journalists are doing their job by calling them on it |
| 02:29.50 | Taintedwisp | Journalist are sucking democrats dicks on this one, We all know that any major news station is a lobby group for one of the parties if you would like I could tell you exactly which ones suck which ones dick |
| 02:30.04 | motive | it's pointless - for both parties |
| 02:30.24 | Taintedwisp | CNN, Yahoo, ABC Democraps, Fox, NBC, and UPN? suck dicks of Republicans |
| 02:30.26 | Daara | my import also only shows you using 2 different texture materials |
| 02:30.51 | motive | if you told me, motive, your salary will be withheld for a few months but you'll be paid later, and with interest, I'd just say ok, sign me up. especially if my day-to-day costs were covered by the government, constituents, or a 'campaign', donations, etc. |
| 02:30.51 | Taintedwisp | I shouldnt be able to just strait up tell which one is sucking whos dick.... but you can totally see it.... |
| 02:30.52 | Daara | are you doing the emissive and waypoint.dds in the same material? |
| 02:30.59 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | yes |
| 02:31.02 | Daara | k |
| 02:31.12 | Daara | what do you have the alpha mask as for that one? |
| 02:31.20 | Daara | the emissive texture or the diffuse? |
| 02:31.25 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i dont have one as it doesnt work with it |
| 02:31.43 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | wait yes i do |
| 02:31.46 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | the diffuse |
| 02:31.54 | Taintedwisp | Personally motive I dont care whether it passes or not, it has pros and cons, but both are VERY minor.... |
| 02:31.54 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i think |
| 02:32.04 | motive | pros: none, cons: doesn't fix anything |
| 02:32.06 | motive | I think it's pretty clear |
| 02:32.18 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ya its diffuse |
| 02:32.26 | motive | in any case though I think both parties are going about this whole spending thing wrong |
| 02:32.36 | Taintedwisp | I just wish the fucking news stations would quit sucking the dicks of one party or another and would do their fucking job which is expose the lies and cheats of the government to the people |
| 02:32.50 | Taintedwisp | Journalist are supposed to be on the PEOPLES side not the parties side |
| 02:32.52 | motive | right now interest rates, worldwide, are the lowest in recorded history. we should be borrowing MORE, investing it at home, then using the profits from the investment to pay off the debt massively. |
| 02:32.52 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | doint the opaque and cutout didnt work |
| 02:33.01 | motive | we know things like infrastructure spending net us a 200-400% profit |
| 02:33.11 | motive | so borrow at 1% interest, pay it back 2 years later and reap the rewards as a debt payment |
| 02:33.18 | Taintedwisp | No we shouldnt... We should have a financial reform... |
| 02:33.20 | motive | let the debt balloon to 20 trillion temporarily, it's just a numbers game. |
| 02:33.24 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | dont worry about transparency on the waypoint im just trying to get the base working |
| 02:33.34 | Taintedwisp | quit letting the fucking idiot federal reserve and banks decide our monies worth |
| 02:33.48 | motive | it's not just our money, it's the whole world's based on ours. we have the power to write a blank check here |
| 02:34.01 | Taintedwisp | They are the ones who put us in this recession them and dumbfuck bill clinton who built a cardboard economy that fell at the first push |
| 02:34.09 | motive | bill clinton ran a surplus dude |
| 02:34.09 | motive | lol |
| 02:34.16 | Taintedwisp | The world isnt based on our money, its based ont he federal reserves money |
| 02:34.21 | Taintedwisp | Yeah... |
| 02:34.24 | motive | the worlds based on the US dollar |
| 02:34.32 | Taintedwisp | and then after his term all his policies fucked over everyone |
| 02:34.42 | motive | tax cuts and war are what fucked us |
| 02:34.42 | Taintedwisp | His policies are the reason people COULD get bad loans |
| 02:34.47 | Taintedwisp | that was HIS bills that did that |
| 02:34.53 | motive | tax cuts = less revenue, which gets written down as a loss. |
| 02:34.56 | motive | war = obvious big cost |
| 02:34.57 | Taintedwisp | And bush was too fucking stupid to stop it... |
| 02:35.15 | motive | clinton just did what I was talking about earlier. borrow money, invest at home, you get a 200-400% return in a few years in the GDP |
| 02:35.16 | Taintedwisp | War is NOT a cost if done right, its a profit... |
| 02:35.21 | motive | easy way to get a surplus and improve america |
| 02:35.23 | Taintedwisp | but once again we fucked a golden oppertunity |
| 02:35.27 | Daara | didn't fix it =\ |
| 02:35.35 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | no |
| 02:35.43 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | what else do you think |
| 02:35.45 | Taintedwisp | HE DIDNT INVEST, he wrote bills that allowed banks to give bogus loans |
| 02:35.58 | motive | banks giving loans to individiausl that are underwritten by the US federal gov't |
| 02:36.00 | Taintedwisp | Not to mention the money that the government owns at this point DOESNT EVEN EXIST IN THAT AMOUNT |
| 02:36.01 | motive | that's an investment in a family |
| 02:36.09 | motive | it doesn't matter if the money exists |
| 02:36.11 | motive | money is just a unit of work |
| 02:36.12 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | is it maybe a problem with the exporter?? |
| 02:36.13 | motive | and the work is already done! |
| 02:36.16 | Taintedwisp | Banks loan 9 Dollars for every 1 dollar they actually have... |
| 02:36.24 | motive | economics is just a numbers game. it doesn't matter if we have the money at all |
| 02:36.26 | motive | it's hilarious but true |
| 02:36.40 | motive | the US dollar is just a piece of paper, or a number now even. |
| 02:36.50 | motive | the whole world economy, 'money' is just a unit of work. |
| 02:36.52 | motive | the work is already done. |
| 02:37.14 | Taintedwisp | Motive watchi this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS88F7Bw2AQ |
| 02:37.24 | Taintedwisp | its animated so its atleast entertaining as well |
| 02:37.32 | motive | plus debt is good, debt grows the economy. |
| 02:37.34 | Taintedwisp | It does explain a few key things |
| 02:37.37 | motive | consider this situation... |
| 02:38.01 | motive | you have $10,000 dollars. you loan it to someone at 15% interest per year. they come back and pay you $11.5K a year later. |
| 02:38.07 | motive | you just added $1.5K to the economy |
| 02:38.10 | motive | money was created. |
| 02:38.52 | Taintedwisp | No thats not how BANKS loan money though Motive |
| 02:38.56 | motive | that's exactly how they do |
| 02:39.06 | motive | google: fractional reserve banking |
| 02:39.07 | Taintedwisp | if a bank has 10,000$ they can loan 90,000$ |
| 02:39.16 | Taintedwisp | and then charge intrest on that 90k... |
| 02:39.21 | motive | yes |
| 02:39.22 | motive | that's good! |
| 02:39.26 | Taintedwisp | NO THATS BAD |
| 02:39.31 | Taintedwisp | THAT MEANS YOUR QUICKLY INFLATING MONEY |
| 02:39.41 | motive | provided the bank can handle a percentage of default, they are still stable. |
| 02:39.43 | Taintedwisp | That means your creating 80k out of thin air |
| 02:39.46 | motive | and they create money, which is added to the economy. |
| 02:39.52 | Taintedwisp | its not stable... its why we are crashing now |
| 02:39.53 | motive | that 80K gets added to the US GDP per year |
| 02:39.58 | motive | that's economic growth. |
| 02:40.02 | Taintedwisp | because the moeny to pay back all these debts DOESNT EXIST |
| 02:40.09 | Taintedwisp | THERES NOT ENOUGH MONEY IN THE WORLD TO PAY BACK THE DEBT |
| 02:40.16 | motive | it doesn't matter |
| 02:40.18 | motive | the money is just a unit of work |
| 02:40.20 | motive | the work is already done. |
| 02:40.21 | Taintedwisp | it does matter... |
| 02:40.26 | motive | you're missing the point of fractional reserve banking. |
| 02:40.35 | motive | it eliminates the need for physical money. |
| 02:40.35 | Taintedwisp | imma go work on my map, your giving me a headache, do some research... |
| 02:40.38 | motive | lol |
| 02:40.46 | motive | I went to college for this shit |
| 02:40.46 | Daara | i don't know =\ |
| 02:40.51 | motive | I did my research |
| 02:40.52 | motive | xD |
| 02:40.54 | Daara | i'm not sure what's wrong |
| 02:40.57 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | this is so dumb |
| 02:41.04 | Daara | i set it to unfogged and unshaded and it brightens up |
| 02:41.08 | Daara | but it won't show shadows |
| 02:41.20 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i dont need shadows |
| 02:41.22 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i dont think |
| 02:41.43 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i wish blizz would hurry the fuck up with thier tools |
| 02:42.15 | motive | Taintedwisp: here's the question you can ask to determine if there's a problem with fractional reserve banking. is there still enough raw resources in the world to supply us? the answer is yes. people can still buy groceries, farmers are still farming. there's still enough food, etc. yes, money is being created, but it's at a pace that we can still supply physical commodities to them with. |
| 02:42.15 | motive | if money 'crashed' that would cease to be true. |
| 02:42.19 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | if they were to release it now it would get the help files it needs fairly quick |
| 02:42.49 | Taintedwisp | let me explain it this way motive, If I have 5 dollars, and those 5 dollars represent a physical item as our money does, Then if someone creates 45 dollars from my 5 $ them that 45$ has the same worth as the 5$ therefore inflation has occured |
| 02:42.57 | motive | there's the big assumption |
| 02:43.03 | motive | you're right, 100 years ago you'd be right. |
| 02:43.09 | motive | but today money is not representing a physical commodity |
| 02:43.16 | motive | today, money is a number. it's not backed by gold. |
| 02:43.18 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | would aplha add work? |
| 02:43.31 | motive | there's no more gold standard. you're using outdated economic models and that's why your math doesn't add up |
| 02:43.49 | Taintedwisp | I just think a total reform where the government worked with money would save a ton of resources and there would never be inflation again, and taxes would be kept low, also there would be no debt |
| 02:43.52 | motive | the only thing $1 is worth is the full faith and credit of the US government. |
| 02:43.58 | motive | we need inflation |
| 02:44.01 | motive | low inflation is bad. |
| 02:44.05 | motive | healthy inflation is like 3% iirc |
| 02:44.12 | motive | inflation encourages investment |
| 02:44.23 | motive | if inflation is 0% I can stick my money in the bank and keep it forever. if there's inflation I must use it or it loses value. |
| 02:45.40 | motive | that's why we emptied the social security fund for example, to spend on other things. |
| 02:45.44 | motive | very controversial but economically it made sense. |
| 02:45.56 | Taintedwisp | okay but with inflation then the laws and the REST OF THE WORLD must keep up with our inflation, or we loose jobs to other countries(whats happening to china). since they CAN work for less people do over there and therefore we loose a shitton of jobs |
| 02:46.06 | motive | If you take $600billion out of the economy and put it in a bank account, it loses value. If you spend it on other things, it can produce growth. |
| 02:46.21 | motive | Taintedwisp: that just makes no sense. |
| 02:46.26 | motive | that's what exchange rates are for. |
| 02:47.03 | motive | and you don't want a race to the bottom anyways, we'd lose. Americans can't compete with chinese for jobs. we want too much money in comparison. |
| 02:47.23 | motive | America is transitioning to a service-based economy. We are better with white-collar jobs now. |
| 02:48.24 | Kubi | yeah ok |
| 02:48.24 | Kubi | lol |
| 02:49.23 | motive | it's really easy to paint the govt as incompetent idiots but the people in the Fed/treasury dept. really are highly intelligent guys, who know their economics. much better than the general population, myself included. |
| 02:49.45 | Kubi | Want your map popular? |
| 02:49.46 | Kubi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FpigqfcvlM |
| 02:49.52 | Kubi | This is prime example even for sc2 custom maps |
| 02:52.36 | motive | damn I wrote a wall of text |
| 02:52.36 | motive | haha |
| 02:54.35 | *** join/#sc2mapster Stranger (~whois@69-165-134-91.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 02:54.56 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | couldnt i just delete the part of the model that suppose to be transparent |
| 02:55.05 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | like cut out the polygons |
| 02:55.40 | tordy | it is freeeeeeeezing cold today!! ... |
| 02:56.06 | motive | Feels like 1°F |
| 02:56.08 | motive | bahahaha =D |
| 02:59.07 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i might just get rid of the ring of rocks thanks for the input daara pm me on sc2mapster.com author name xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx |
| 02:59.36 | motive | well this is embarrassing. we have lost a server at work |
| 02:59.38 | motive | cannot find it |
| 02:59.39 | motive | lolol |
| 03:00.39 | Taintedwisp | How do you loose a server? |
| 03:00.40 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 03:00.48 | Taintedwisp | Its not something you just misplace :P |
| 03:01.07 | motive | it's not at the IP it should be, it's not in our management portal, it's DNS entry is gone, etc. |
| 03:01.11 | motive | ticketed the NOC |
| 03:01.12 | motive | haha |
| 03:01.15 | Taintedwisp | they weigh about 40-100 lbs... |
| 03:01.25 | Taintedwisp | ohh |
| 03:01.30 | Taintedwisp | I thought you physically lost a server |
| 03:01.31 | Taintedwisp | hah |
| 03:01.54 | motive | well we've done that before too |
| 03:01.59 | motive | except it was a network switch |
| 03:02.10 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 03:02.44 | Taintedwisp | http://elderscrollsonline.com/en/ EVERYONE SIGN THE FUCK UP |
| 03:02.46 | Taintedwisp | NOW |
| 03:02.51 | Taintedwisp | THE OPEN BETA REGISTRATION IS UP |
| 03:02.56 | Taintedwisp | SIGN UP OR GET KICKED IN THE SAC |
| 03:03.03 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 03:20.31 | Daara | i signed up |
| 03:20.46 | Daara | i checked off that i was in game development or the press too :D ^_~ |
| 03:26.52 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 03:27.02 | Taintedwisp | if they ask you work for their mother... |
| 03:27.03 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 03:29.15 | *** join/#sc2mapster xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx (4ac60970@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.198.9.112) |
| 03:29.20 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | hey sixen |
| 03:29.26 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | do you have anymore beta keys |
| 03:29.39 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | by anychance my other friend would like one |
| 03:31.13 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | its alright if not |
| 03:35.13 | Kubi | I have a spare hots beta key |
| 03:35.15 | Kubi | oh wait.. he left |
| 03:35.16 | Kubi | lol |
| 03:35.23 | *** join/#sc2mapster Goose_ (4ac60970@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.198.9.112) |
| 03:38.53 | *** join/#sc2mapster SnyderGuy (4ac60970@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.198.9.112) |
| 03:39.10 | SnyderGuy | hey i heard there was beta keys being given out here |
| 03:39.24 | SnyderGuy | could i have one please |
| 03:41.28 | SnyderGuy | Sixen |
| 03:42.07 | Kubi | lol the fuck |
| 03:42.29 | Kubi | Where did you hear this |
| 03:43.44 | SnyderGuy | my friend |
| 03:44.19 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 03:44.45 | SnyderGuy | i was just wondering if he would hand out another |
| 03:44.51 | Taintedwisp | Hey Snyder, whats up :P |
| 03:44.54 | Taintedwisp | Yeah sixen had a few |
| 03:45.05 | SnyderGuy | ive been wanting to test the new editr |
| 03:45.09 | SnyderGuy | not much |
| 03:45.15 | Taintedwisp | He might, your a mapper so just ask :P |
| 03:45.23 | SnyderGuy | hey sixen |
| 03:45.34 | Kubi | he cant hear you, you have to speak louder |
| 03:45.39 | SnyderGuy | lol |
| 03:45.43 | SnyderGuy | HEY |
| 03:45.46 | SnyderGuy | rofl |
| 03:46.02 | Kubi | So what maps you make SnyderGuy |
| 03:46.06 | SnyderGuy | how have you been taint |
| 03:46.11 | Taintedwisp | pretty good |
| 03:46.26 | Taintedwisp | Snyder has made quite a few maps, on top of being an active member of the community for some time :P |
| 03:46.30 | SnyderGuy | some mele maps and other types like my lycanthropy map |
| 03:46.57 | SnyderGuy | i havent had much time recently |
| 03:47.02 | Taintedwisp | Snyder if I see sixen again ill try to get him to give me one for you if you cant get a hold of him |
| 03:47.06 | SnyderGuy | ive been trying to get a beta key |
| 03:47.18 | Taintedwisp | yeah kubi snyder is good people :P |
| 03:47.23 | SnyderGuy | that would be awsome tainted ill be on here for a bit |
| 03:47.40 | Taintedwisp | and Im not even the one who told him any keys were being handed out haha |
| 03:48.09 | Kubi | is there keys be handing out? |
| 03:48.16 | Kubi | or is it some ongoing joke |
| 03:48.28 | SnyderGuy | dragon said that he got one from him earlier |
| 03:48.49 | Taintedwisp | yeah sixen had a few spare ones earlier, he never said how many he had |
| 03:48.57 | SnyderGuy | oh |
| 03:49.07 | SnyderGuy | well i hope he has 1 more :) |
| 03:49.10 | Taintedwisp | he never said he was out either sooo :P |
| 03:49.31 | Kubi | i already got one + extra myself |
| 03:49.31 | Kubi | lol |
| 03:49.37 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 03:49.37 | SnyderGuy | wow |
| 03:49.40 | SnyderGuy | lol |
| 03:50.20 | Taintedwisp | Snyder the new editor is pretty much the same as WoL, it just have a few new features :P |
| 03:50.27 | Taintedwisp | I havent used it too much yet though |
| 03:50.33 | SnyderGuy | oh really |
| 03:50.36 | Kubi | yea |
| 03:50.40 | Taintedwisp | It does have a UI editor, like an actual Visual one from what people are saying |
| 03:50.41 | Kubi | just hots depencies |
| 03:50.44 | SnyderGuy | i heard that a bunch of stuff was fixed |
| 03:50.48 | Kubi | Wait |
| 03:50.49 | Kubi | it does? |
| 03:50.55 | Taintedwisp | well its got some new trigger definitions and some other new tings too I think |
| 03:51.01 | SnyderGuy | sweet ui editor |
| 03:51.09 | Taintedwisp | yeah like I said thats all of what I just ehard |
| 03:51.11 | Taintedwisp | heard |
| 03:51.14 | Taintedwisp | I have the beta, but..... |
| 03:51.15 | SnyderGuy | ah |
| 03:51.20 | Taintedwisp | I dont use it :P |
| 03:51.25 | Taintedwisp | Still making my map in WoL |
| 03:51.31 | SnyderGuy | how is the actual beta like the game |
| 03:51.33 | Taintedwisp | ill switch to HoTS when it gets a bit closer |
| 03:51.41 | SnyderGuy | ya |
| 03:51.43 | Taintedwisp | The NEW UI in HoTS is AMAZING |
| 03:51.52 | Taintedwisp | battle.net is beatiful |
| 03:51.58 | Taintedwisp | The arcade is the same though :( |
| 03:51.59 | Kubi | WAIt |
| 03:52.00 | Taintedwisp | terribly |
| 03:52.02 | Kubi | WHERE IS THIS UI EIDOTR |
| 03:52.04 | Taintedwisp | well not terrible |
| 03:52.06 | Taintedwisp | just not great |
| 03:52.13 | Taintedwisp | I dunno kubi its just something that I have been told |
| 03:52.25 | Kubi | You can map in the hots editor |
| 03:52.35 | Kubi | i think as long as u dont put in hots depenencies |
| 03:52.51 | SnyderGuy | ithink the new units are prety cool |
| 03:53.02 | Kubi | You know |
| 03:53.08 | Kubi | When blizzard removes a unit in multiple |
| 03:53.12 | Kubi | you know that shit will be in the editor |
| 03:53.23 | SnyderGuy | so the warhound is there |
| 03:53.26 | Kubi | Where |
| 03:53.26 | Kubi | is |
| 03:53.27 | Taintedwisp | also UI elements can be changed through triggers now |
| 03:53.28 | Kubi | yes |
| 03:53.30 | Kubi | WHERE |
| 03:53.31 | SnyderGuy | in the editor |
| 03:53.35 | Kubi | WHERE IS THIS UI EDITOR |
| 03:53.55 | Taintedwisp | I dont remember kubi |
| 03:54.07 | Taintedwisp | all I know is it was accidentally released when the beta was FIRST released |
| 03:54.18 | Taintedwisp | it was incomplete |
| 03:54.26 | Taintedwisp | but it was there and functional |
| 03:54.40 | SnyderGuy | im looking forware to the plugins for 3dsmax |
| 03:54.46 | SnyderGuy | are they in the beta |
| 03:54.47 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 03:54.55 | Taintedwisp | im no modeller |
| 03:54.56 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 03:54.59 | Taintedwisp | I am a retextureer |
| 03:55.02 | Ahli | ctrl + alt + f12 |
| 03:55.06 | SnyderGuy | i play with it sometimes |
| 03:55.16 | Taintedwisp | Snyderguy http://s183.beta.photobucket.com/user/11shadowwolf/media/Terrain102_zps86b831ac.jpg.html |
| 03:55.22 | Taintedwisp | no they will be out on release of the game |
| 03:55.25 | Taintedwisp | From what I have been told :P |
| 03:55.29 | SnyderGuy | darn |
| 03:55.42 | Taintedwisp | whats that ahli? |
| 03:55.45 | SnyderGuy | nice hydras |
| 03:55.56 | Taintedwisp | :P I am a retexture guy ahahh |
| 03:55.58 | turtles | wait. What is this about a UI editor? Do you guys meen an editor to help create UI's in a custom game? |
| 03:56.00 | Ahli | the hotkey for the ingame UI editor during test document |
| 03:56.02 | Taintedwisp | I have done TONS of retextures |
| 03:56.08 | Taintedwisp | http://s183.beta.photobucket.com/user/11shadowwolf/media/Terrain104_zpsa11c6754.jpg.html |
| 03:56.14 | turtles | or are you talking about the UI for observing games |
| 03:56.15 | Taintedwisp | Ahh |
| 03:56.17 | Ahli | it can't save what you did within it though... |
| 03:56.18 | Taintedwisp | There you go kubi |
| 03:56.23 | Taintedwisp | ahhh |
| 03:56.33 | Kubi | What? |
| 03:56.34 | Taintedwisp | http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Terrain100_zpse6e37af5.jpg |
| 03:56.38 | SnyderGuy | ahli that sounds cool does it give you the info to put into the editor |
| 03:56.38 | Taintedwisp | Read Ahli post |
| 03:56.40 | Kubi | Thats |
| 03:56.41 | Kubi | not |
| 03:56.45 | Taintedwisp | thats it... |
| 03:56.47 | Kubi | UI editor |
| 03:56.48 | Taintedwisp | Its visual |
| 03:56.54 | Kubi | Where |
| 03:56.54 | Kubi | WUt |
| 03:57.01 | Taintedwisp | WHILE IN TEST MODE |
| 03:57.04 | Kubi | UR LINKS |
| 03:57.05 | Kubi | ARE |
| 03:57.07 | Kubi | UR PICTURES |
| 03:57.07 | Taintedwisp | CTRL + ALT + f12 |
| 03:57.10 | Kubi | oh |
| 03:57.14 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 03:57.27 | Kubi | ingame? |
| 03:57.30 | Taintedwisp | http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Terrain095_zpse175eebb.jpg |
| 03:57.31 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 03:57.33 | Taintedwisp | in test mode |
| 03:57.41 | Kubi | how do u put it in test mode |
| 03:57.58 | Taintedwisp | open map, hit the test map button... |
| 03:57.59 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 03:58.01 | Ahli | well, the only purpose it gives to me is it gives me names of the fields within certain types... I've no real use for that thing right now as it is super easy to "destroy" your current UI with it |
| 03:58.17 | Taintedwisp | yeah Ahli Deletarius says its incomplete :P |
| 03:58.25 | Taintedwisp | or maybe it was tenarsis... |
| 03:58.30 | Taintedwisp | or maybe artestru.. |
| 03:58.33 | Taintedwisp | Id ont remember which one |
| 03:58.40 | Taintedwisp | ONE OF THEM said it wasnt finished |
| 03:58.49 | Ahli | yeah, it's in some alpha or beta stage where it requires polishing to become really usable |
| 03:58.59 | Taintedwisp | No its not even in beta :P |
| 03:59.07 | Taintedwisp | They said that it wasnt ment to go out with the beta :P |
| 03:59.10 | Taintedwisp | it was an accident |
| 03:59.15 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 03:59.29 | Ahli | also, maybe they should lock the area that stuff is drawn on screen. I was able to move the world half offscreen and after that I couldn't move it back again because I couldn't select anything anymore |
| 03:59.46 | Sixen | snyderguy: still here? |
| 03:59.46 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 03:59.47 | turtles | WWWWOOOOOOAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! |
| 03:59.49 | SnyderGuy | yes |
| 03:59.51 | turtles | it works |
| 03:59.59 | Sixen | HTFFKV-8DZ8-KP9GEY-4WBV-MKGBGF try that one |
| 04:00.04 | Ahli | with space you can hide the menu things |
| 04:00.07 | Sixen | someone was going to use it but ended up not needing |
| 04:00.08 | Ahli | and show it again |
| 04:00.11 | turtles | I have no idea how to use it or what it does but it is amazing! |
| 04:00.48 | SnyderGuy | it says it is in use |
| 04:00.55 | Sixen | kk VK8KCC-78KM-TY4FTR-ZBNG-ZGMDCR |
| 04:00.57 | SnyderGuy | ?? |
| 04:01.37 | turtles | It looks confusing at first glance but I'm sure if I figure out how to use it it will make creating UIs FAR more easy! |
| 04:02.46 | Taintedwisp | Sixen how many do you have :P |
| 04:02.52 | Kubi | HOLY SHIT |
| 04:02.55 | Kubi | FREE KEY GIVE AWAY |
| 04:02.57 | Sixen | does it matter? :P |
| 04:03.01 | Taintedwisp | what did they do just give you a long sheet of paper ? |
| 04:03.04 | Sixen | kubi, you have one and one extra |
| 04:03.05 | Kubi | SIXEN IS MAKIN IT RAIN |
| 04:03.07 | Kubi | yeah |
| 04:03.08 | Kubi | I know |
| 04:03.08 | Sixen | ;) |
| 04:03.10 | Kubi | i dont need any |
| 04:03.11 | Kubi | im good |
| 04:03.12 | Sixen | lol |
| 04:03.18 | motive | Sixen doesn't have keys, he has a key generator. |
| 04:03.19 | motive | D: |
| 04:03.20 | Sixen | start stripping, i'll drop fat stacks of keys |
| 04:03.22 | Kubi | Amazon preorders/cancels |
| 04:03.27 | Taintedwisp | I was just curious, :P I dont need anymore if that one for my cousin works :P |
| 04:03.59 | SnyderGuy | ty sixen |
| 04:04.02 | Sixen | ^^ |
| 04:04.14 | SnyderGuy | can i have another rofl |
| 04:04.19 | SnyderGuy | jk |
| 04:04.27 | Sixen | =o |
| 04:04.30 | SnyderGuy | time to download the client |
| 04:04.54 | turtles | have a happy 3 hours :) |
| 04:04.56 | Kubi | Who gave you them |
| 04:05.00 | Kubi | Deletarius |
| 04:05.03 | Kubi | I know it |
| 04:05.21 | Taintedwisp | lol Blizzard i would imagine kubi |
| 04:05.33 | Taintedwisp | Since sixen is an MVP and runs mapster to help support the community |
| 04:05.36 | SnyderGuy | sixen does do alot for blizzard |
| 04:05.54 | SnyderGuy | hey sixen do they pay you by any chance |
| 04:06.07 | Taintedwisp | They pay him... in beta keys :))) |
| 04:06.12 | SnyderGuy | lol |
| 04:06.22 | Taintedwisp | cold hard betas.. |
| 04:06.44 | SnyderGuy | lol my rlf is like you got a beta key i wish i had one |
| 04:07.01 | SnyderGuy | im like im special |
| 04:07.39 | turtles | Are beta keys all that rare these days? |
| 04:07.41 | Taintedwisp | lol I got already had beta then I bought my game got another and gave it to my little brother :P |
| 04:07.53 | Taintedwisp | I got HoTS |
| 04:08.12 | Taintedwisp | I dunno... where my grammar errors wer... |
| 04:08.15 | SnyderGuy | idk how rare it is but all my friends dont have one yet |
| 04:08.24 | Taintedwisp | what was going inside my head with that clusterfuck of stupid last sentence |
| 04:08.29 | SnyderGuy | they also cant get preorders |
| 04:08.38 | turtles | why not? |
| 04:08.38 | Sixen | I wish they paid me |
| 04:08.44 | SnyderGuy | no credit crads |
| 04:08.45 | Taintedwisp | THEY DO SIXEN!!! |
| 04:08.48 | motive | sixen I'll pay you to pay me. |
| 04:08.49 | Sixen | i wish |
| 04:08.50 | Taintedwisp | in beta keys :))) |
| 04:08.51 | turtles | I thought most game shops were doing preorders by now |
| 04:08.55 | SnyderGuy | hey sixen myfriend keeps asking me for a key |
| 04:08.59 | Sixen | if they paid me, i'd be able to spend so much more time postingon the forums and stuff |
| 04:09.17 | Sixen | i'm all for getting girlfriends to play with you |
| 04:09.17 | Sixen | YYJZEM-8YGK-8JXFCG-HTWX-YGNVXW |
| 04:09.19 | Taintedwisp | Thats what you SHOULD try to get into Sixen, being a Community manager |
| 04:09.24 | Sixen | just better not be lying to me --; |
| 04:09.34 | Sixen | already applied, tainted |
| 04:09.37 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 04:09.48 | Taintedwisp | I applied too, though I dont meet a single qualification |
| 04:09.50 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 04:09.51 | Sixen | just depends on whether or not they're willing to wait for me to graduate in a few months or if they need it now |
| 04:09.55 | Sixen | see, I meet/exceed all of them :P |
| 04:10.02 | motive | Sixen you should PM me 1 key for my friend |
| 04:10.03 | motive | :P |
| 04:10.03 | Taintedwisp | < gets the job |
| 04:10.04 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 04:11.36 | SnyderGuy | he is very happy thank you so much sixen |
| 04:11.41 | Sixen | wtf? he? |
| 04:11.42 | Sixen | o_o |
| 04:11.49 | SnyderGuy | ya my friend |
| 04:11.51 | Sixen | oh shit |
| 04:11.55 | Sixen | I thought you said girlfriend :P |
| 04:11.56 | SnyderGuy | you gave him a key too remember |
| 04:11.58 | Sixen | whatever lol |
| 04:12.02 | SnyderGuy | no |
| 04:12.03 | SnyderGuy | lol |
| 04:12.03 | Sixen | np |
| 04:12.09 | SnyderGuy | real life friend |
| 04:12.12 | motive | Sixen he lied. |
| 04:12.13 | turtles | his GF is a guy =o |
| 04:12.16 | Sixen | yeah, yeah, I read girflriend somehow |
| 04:12.17 | SnyderGuy | no |
| 04:12.18 | Taintedwisp | NAMED TED |
| 04:12.19 | motive | I have a female friend who would love an SC2 beta key though. |
| 04:12.24 | motive | CLOSE ENOUGH? |
| 04:12.25 | SnyderGuy | lol |
| 04:12.30 | Taintedwisp | movie quit lying... |
| 04:12.32 | SnyderGuy | anyways pce |
| 04:12.32 | Taintedwisp | you have no friends |
| 04:12.33 | Sixen | haha, I don't care motive doesn't havbe to be a woman |
| 04:12.34 | Taintedwisp | no one loves you |
| 04:12.35 | Sixen | you really need a key? |
| 04:12.46 | motive | I don't need one, but if you want to give one, sure |
| 04:12.48 | Kubi | OH MY GOD |
| 04:12.50 | motive | I'll be regifting it |
| 04:12.52 | motive | I already have my own |
| 04:12.53 | Kubi | HOTS EDITOR |
| 04:12.55 | Kubi | DOES HAVE A UI |
| 04:12.57 | Kubi | EDITOR |
| 04:12.58 | Sixen | and you know someone who wants one? :P |
| 04:12.58 | Kubi | JESUS CHRIST |
| 04:13.00 | Taintedwisp | told you -_- |
| 04:13.00 | motive | Yes I do |
| 04:13.01 | motive | =P |
| 04:13.12 | motive | Thanks <3 |
| 04:13.16 | Sixen | <3 |
| 04:13.20 | turtles | Kubi OMG IKR?!?! |
| 04:13.37 | turtles | Don't know how to use it yet though |
| 04:14.16 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 04:14.21 | Taintedwisp | I figured it out in seconds |
| 04:14.22 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 04:14.25 | Taintedwisp | Its not that difficule |
| 04:14.30 | Taintedwisp | difficult |
| 04:14.32 | motive | Sixen: think of it like this, the ratio of female SC2 players has gone from 1:100000 to 1:99999 |
| 04:14.34 | motive | thanks to you. |
| 04:14.35 | Taintedwisp | its a very basic feature |
| 04:14.41 | Taintedwisp | IT DOES NOT SAVE YET THOUGH |
| 04:14.42 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 04:14.59 | turtles | well, I took one look and though "YAY COOL!... but I don't need it right now so I'll work it out later" |
| 04:14.59 | Sixen | :) |
| 04:15.02 | Sixen | All because of me. |
| 04:15.07 | Taintedwisp | with it I added an inventory, Moved the Minimap, Moved the otherthings and etc |
| 04:15.23 | Taintedwisp | Hey sixen |
| 04:15.25 | Taintedwisp | you got another key? |
| 04:15.29 | Taintedwisp | for one of my teammates? |
| 04:15.40 | Sixen | i feel like you're lyikng to me |
| 04:15.49 | Taintedwisp | no im not its my triggerer Luzzotica on skype |
| 04:15.51 | Sixen | YFWB8K-DWYD-CGXN26-22GP-VDNH9G |
| 04:16.16 | motive | Sixen if I turn you upside down and shake you, will I drown in HOTS keys? |
| 04:16.22 | turtles | Sixen, I know someone who runs tournaments for bronze-plat guys for a really awesome community |
| 04:16.24 | Sixen | seems likely |
| 04:16.24 | motive | Or will I simply become r ich? |
| 04:16.25 | motive | Damn |
| 04:16.36 | turtles | I'm sure they would appreciate a key |
| 04:16.52 | Sixen | turtles: have him pm me on mapster or tweet at me or something |
| 04:16.55 | turtles | as a prize. (if you happen to be spitting out keys) |
| 04:17.02 | Sixen | wouldn't mind sending one their way and meeting them |
| 04:17.07 | Sixen | or a couple or w/e |
| 04:17.37 | motive | Sixen: Donate a few to CortexRP.com if you really have hundreds |
| 04:17.42 | motive | I'm sure a few terrainers would like a few |
| 04:17.45 | SnyderGuy | well im gonna dowload tty guys later |
| 04:17.50 | Sixen | I don't have hundreds like WoL beta :( |
| 04:17.53 | motive | haha |
| 04:17.53 | motive | aw |
| 04:17.59 | Sixen | in fact i'm almost out haha |
| 04:18.09 | Kubi | How do I add a layer in the UI editor |
| 04:25.09 | nooblark | anyone else mad as hell that things like lobby testing and teams from lobby can't be tested without releasing to battle net? |
| 04:25.20 | motive | publish it as private |
| 04:25.29 | nooblark | it's annoying |
| 04:25.41 | nooblark | publishing, finding a mistake within a second, and needing to republish |
| 04:26.21 | Sixen | ;/ |
| 04:26.47 | nooblark | but, while i'm here complaining. what's the best way to detect computer players? :O |
| 04:26.59 | motive | There's a Player Type thingy |
| 04:27.04 | motive | in GUI under Players |
| 04:27.04 | nooblark | mmk |
| 04:27.06 | motive | Yeah |
| 04:27.08 | motive | or COntroller of Player |
| 04:27.08 | motive | either works |
| 04:27.09 | nooblark | thanks |
| 04:27.29 | nooblark | wait, in triggers? |
| 04:27.38 | motive | how else would you do it? |
| 04:27.49 | nooblark | player attributes lol |
| 04:28.09 | motive | but you said detect it |
| 04:28.11 | motive | not set it |
| 04:28.12 | nooblark | i know |
| 04:28.17 | nooblark | i meant detect too |
| 04:28.39 | nooblark | i know in single test, computers are not being added to my teams, because there is no lobby |
| 04:28.55 | nooblark | so it made it seem like my trigger was excluding them, but it wasn't. |
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| 04:31.05 | nooblark | thanks motive :) |
| 04:31.31 | nooblark | i know there are functions for this shit, but i don't have all of them memorized yet so it's incredibly hard to find them without the right keyword |
| 04:34.04 | *** join/#sc2mapster sir (4ac60970@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.198.9.112) |
| 04:34.25 | sir | hey it didnt use my whole nick name |
| 04:34.33 | Guest93958 | supposed to be sir cody57 |
| 04:34.40 | Guest93958 | :( |
| 04:35.02 | Guest93958 | anyone know how to change nick without going out of irc |
| 04:35.15 | Guest93958 | im on web version |
| 04:35.27 | Kubi | OMGOMGOMG |
| 04:35.31 | Kubi | I LOVE UI EDITOR |
| 04:35.39 | Guest93958 | ui editor |
| 04:35.41 | Guest93958 | ?? |
| 04:36.01 | Kubi | in hots editor |
| 04:36.09 | Guest93958 | oh ok i dont have that |
| 04:37.02 | Guest93958 | i mostly play sc2 though i just got into mapping |
| 04:37.07 | Guest93958 | found this site |
| 04:37.29 | Guest93958 | one sec ill brb im gona fix my nick |
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| 04:38.01 | sircody57 | thats better |
| 04:38.28 | sircody57 | hello everybody |
| 04:38.42 | sircody57 | hey is that the sixen from diablo dailies |
| 04:39.04 | turtles | sixen - I got in touch with one of the orginizers of a clan who sometimes hold competitions. verry grassroots-ish. Giving him your SC2Mapster page to contact you. |
| 04:39.26 | turtles | hope that's OK. They could put a few keys to good use |
| 04:39.43 | sircody57 | sixen got beta keys |
| 04:40.39 | Sixen | sircody: indeed! |
| 04:40.47 | Sixen | cool, thanks turtles |
| 04:40.50 | sircody57 | cool |
| 04:41.00 | sircody57 | how many did you get? |
| 04:41.05 | Sixen | enough? :P |
| 04:41.08 | sircody57 | if you mind me asking |
| 04:41.21 | sircody57 | enough thats vague enough to work |
| 04:41.25 | Sixen | ;) |
| 04:41.28 | sircody57 | lol |
| 04:41.52 | sircody57 | so what would it take me to get one from you |
| 04:42.04 | Sixen | asking politely? ^_^ |
| 04:42.15 | sircody57 | may i have one |
| 04:42.21 | sircody57 | :p |
| 04:42.22 | Sixen | sure, CWJJKC-2K6E-WTDFKP-68E7-WRCFD7 |
| 04:42.28 | Sixen | ;) |
| 04:42.46 | sircody57 | wow that was fun |
| 04:42.51 | sircody57 | can i have an extra |
| 04:42.57 | Repo | New map: Zergling Blood: DA - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/zergling-blood-da/ |
| 04:42.58 | sircody57 | for a friend |
| 04:43.02 | Repo | New map: Planet Crawler - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/planet-crawler/ |
| 04:43.03 | Repo | New asset: Land Leviathan model from RoL - http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/land-leviathan-model-rol/ |
| 04:43.03 | Repo | New asset: Diablo 3 Waypoint - http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/diablo-3-waypoint/ |
| 04:43.20 | Sixen | 7PY8EH-GYJJ-WYKHMC-MZNW-BD4ETR |
| 04:43.33 | Kubi | MAKIN IT RAIn |
| 04:43.36 | Kubi | RAIN BABY |
| 04:43.38 | sircody57 | ty sixen |
| 04:43.40 | Sixen | ;) |
| 04:43.43 | Sixen | np |
| 04:43.45 | Otixa | pats Sixen on the head |
| 04:43.49 | Kubi | ~seen Blizz-Deletarius |
| 04:43.52 | purl | blizz-deletarius is currently on #sc2mapster (11h 23m 36s). Has said a total of 115 messages. Is idling for 5h 9m 4s, last said: 'and what league are you zen? ;)'. |
| 04:43.52 | Otixa | Is it christmas Sixen time? ;p |
| 04:44.02 | Sixen | Sixen Claus |
| 04:44.05 | sircody57 | sixen is kinda awesome |
| 04:44.09 | Kubi | kinda? |
| 04:44.10 | Sixen | <3 |
| 04:44.11 | Kubi | i see how it is |
| 04:44.17 | Kubi | OMG |
| 04:44.19 | Kubi | UI EDITOR |
| 04:44.20 | Kubi | INGAME |
| 04:44.39 | sircody57 | so sixen are you pro gamer |
| 04:44.49 | MapsterBot | Sixes is a nub gamer :D |
| 04:44.53 | Otixa | Sixen* |
| 04:44.54 | Kubi | Says the bot |
| 04:44.55 | Otixa | :B |
| 04:44.56 | Sixen | sorta kinda, I was on EG, but for D3 |
| 04:44.56 | Kubi | go away bot |
| 04:44.57 | Kubi | bad bot |
| 04:45.06 | sircody57 | thats cool |
| 04:45.06 | Kubi | What happened to that sixen |
| 04:45.12 | Otixa | Noe, good bot :B |
| 04:45.18 | Sixen | my contract ended and our sponsors saw nothing but bad reviews for D# |
| 04:45.18 | Otixa | Don't listen to them, nubbot |
| 04:45.22 | Otixa | pats MapsterBot |
| 04:45.25 | Sixen | so they didn't way to keep pouring money into it ;( |
| 04:45.38 | Otixa | Sixen, Y U no SC2 pro? |
| 04:45.54 | Sixen | good question:P |
| 04:46.02 | Otixa | Gell, get on with it! |
| 04:46.05 | Otixa | Well* |
| 04:46.11 | Otixa | Can't spell today ;| |
| 04:47.24 | Kubi | I want to map in Hots beta |
| 04:47.36 | Kubi | but I afraid it wont be compatible with WoL |
| 04:47.39 | MapsterBot | Startools plz |
| 04:49.12 | Kubi | mmm |
| 04:49.20 | Kubi | I well if I open a hots in wol editor |
| 04:49.21 | Kubi | see what happenws |
| 04:49.59 | Kubi | works |
| 04:50.06 | Kubi | I guess if I don't have the dependencies |
| 04:50.10 | Kubi | i should be able to |
| 05:02.04 | sircody57 | nice video sixen |
| 05:02.10 | sircody57 | just saw the tweet |
| 05:02.11 | Sixen | thanks ^_^ |
| 05:02.43 | sircody57 | question what kind of computer is behind you |
| 05:03.04 | Sixen | haha, that's the old computer I had before EG hooked me up.I set it up for my gf to use |
| 05:03.11 | sircody57 | nice |
| 05:03.47 | Kubi | mmm Not too many people deviate from the popular maps on b.net |
| 05:04.10 | sircody57 | my favourite is squadron td |
| 05:05.22 | Daara | woah |
| 05:05.26 | Daara | team eg hooking you up? |
| 05:05.41 | Sixen | I was on EG for a year |
| 05:05.46 | Daara | really? |
| 05:05.47 | Daara | shiiit |
| 05:05.49 | Sixen | ya, for d3 |
| 05:05.52 | Daara | cool |
| 05:06.03 | Daara | I knew a lot of the WoW mlgers. |
| 05:06.19 | Kubi | I wish the UI editor worked for dialogs |
| 05:06.20 | Kubi | :< |
| 05:06.28 | Kubi | but thats all sixens fault |
| 05:06.36 | Sixen | ah yeah, I did some stuff with azael |
| 05:06.50 | Daara | he wouldn't duel me at blizzcon |
| 05:06.53 | Sixen | lol |
| 05:07.16 | Daara | he insisted that the people watching didn't want to see a lock vs healer :P |
| 05:07.34 | Sixen | hahaha |
| 05:08.03 | Daara | i probably would have ended up on eg if i kept playing wow seriously |
| 05:08.18 | Sixen | ;o |
| 05:08.27 | Kubi | cool |
| 05:08.31 | Kubi | you still map in the hots |
| 05:08.33 | Kubi | if ur making a wol |
| 05:09.52 | Daara | there's 3 other shaman i considered me equal, QTFemnei/taur, Kollektiv, and GClol. The rest drove me nuts with their constant mistakes -_- |
| 05:10.03 | nooblark | daaaarrrrraaaaaaa |
| 05:10.08 | Kubi | NOOBLARK |
| 05:10.10 | Kubi | I FREED YOU |
| 05:10.14 | nooblark | what |
| 05:10.15 | nooblark | huh |
| 05:10.16 | nooblark | who |
| 05:10.36 | sircody57 | is deletarius a blizzard employee? |
| 05:10.39 | Daara | yes |
| 05:10.41 | Daara | no |
| 05:10.43 | Daara | wait |
| 05:11.06 | sircody57 | :P |
| 05:11.10 | nooblark | Kubi, what the hell are you talking about? |
| 05:11.14 | Kubi | I FREED YOU |
| 05:11.16 | Kubi | FROM MISu |
| 05:11.16 | Daara | he freed you! |
| 05:11.19 | Kubi | She works for me now |
| 05:11.24 | Daara | lol |
| 05:11.30 | Daara | i need some underlings |
| 05:11.31 | nooblark | how so? |
| 05:11.49 | Daara | anyone want to create a bunch of warcraft esq spells for me? |
| 05:11.56 | Kubi | she terraining for me |
| 05:12.07 | Kubi | because i suck nuts at it |
| 05:12.09 | nooblark | she's not being a very good minion to you then. we spent a bunch of time last night playing sc |
| 05:12.12 | Kubi | I LOVE HOTS EDITOR |
| 05:12.16 | Kubi | OMG |
| 05:12.17 | Kubi | WUT |
| 05:12.20 | Daara | i'm going to go dl it now |
| 05:12.23 | Kubi | she.. |
| 05:12.24 | Kubi | she |
| 05:12.26 | Kubi | cheated on me!? |
| 05:12.38 | nooblark | you were sloppy thirds anywy\ay |
| 05:12.41 | Daara | yea |
| 05:12.42 | turtles | bye guys. I'm out. |
| 05:12.43 | nooblark | daara was her first |
| 05:12.49 | Daara | heh heh alright |
| 05:13.03 | nooblark | am i wrong? |
| 05:13.03 | nooblark | lol |
| 05:13.10 | nooblark | does she get around? |
| 05:13.19 | nooblark | hope i didn't catch anything... |
| 05:13.19 | Daara | i might have been her first |
| 05:13.57 | Daara | i don't use rubbers but i'm clean |
| 05:14.03 | Kubi | man |
| 05:14.06 | Daara | should i get myself checked? |
| 05:14.08 | nooblark | so Kubi, what do I have to do to get her back? |
| 05:14.09 | Kubi | people really dont deviate from WoL popular maps |
| 05:14.17 | Kubi | idk |
| 05:14.21 | Kubi | she offered |
| 05:14.31 | Kubi | UI EDITOR |
| 05:14.34 | Kubi | I cant |
| 05:14.39 | Kubi | say how much I love this |
| 05:14.42 | nooblark | she bothered me for so long about new maps and new ideas |
| 05:14.47 | nooblark | now she stopped |
| 05:15.00 | Kubi | mmm |
| 05:15.04 | nooblark | and it's because she abandonded the work, and is doing your shit now |
| 05:15.08 | Kubi | she just went to someone who is fresh |
| 05:15.10 | Daara | i would be excited too if i had an $8k computer |
| 05:15.29 | nooblark | how long is your terrain going to take? |
| 05:15.53 | nooblark | i was thinking of cutting her loose after we were done this KotH map. give me more time for my own stuff |
| 05:17.22 | nooblark | anyway, i got sidetracked |
| 05:17.29 | nooblark | daara, you have a minute? :P |
| 05:17.44 | Daara | wuts up |
| 05:17.52 | nooblark | i did some updates to the map |
| 05:17.57 | nooblark | i need 1 tester |
| 05:18.17 | Otixa | emerges |
| 05:18.26 | Otixa | Hurrdurr |
| 05:18.32 | Otixa | <insert troll here> |
| 05:18.36 | Otixa | disperses |
| 05:18.50 | Daara | i counter your hurrdurr with a herpderp |
| 05:20.57 | Otixa | GET A FUCKING POLAR BEAR |
| 05:21.18 | Daara | k invite me |
| 05:21.24 | Daara | i'm on nooblark |
| 05:21.44 | nooblark | i'm publishing now |
| 05:33.40 | nooblark | lol yeah, there was no trigger whatsoever to give your computer 50 minerals to show on to you :P |
| 05:41.02 | nooblark | found the bug for koth |
| 05:41.23 | nooblark | i had it set to triggering player, which returns who was controlling it. i needed owner of triggering unit |
| 05:41.38 | nooblark | which is sad, when i wrote the code on a peice of paper, i had the owner.. knowing that |
| 05:41.39 | nooblark | lol |
| 06:01.29 | Daara | lol tainted is going to love this one |
| 06:06.36 | nooblark | what |
| 06:09.28 | Daara | ew opening his sentence with fuck and calling another community member a retard |
| 06:09.39 | Daara | after threatening to ban tainted for swearing |
| 06:16.15 | nooblark | whaaa |
| 06:16.19 | nooblark | what am i missing |
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| 07:06.03 | Dogmai | Otixa: i be following youse on twitter |
| 07:06.05 | Dogmai | follow back nao! |
| 07:10.01 | Daara | lol |
| 07:10.08 | Daara | fucking commercial had someone being called on skype |
| 07:10.13 | Daara | i was all excited! |
| 07:10.16 | Daara | :c |
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| 09:34.03 | Ahli | hmm, I think I'm going to make a huge overhaul for my skills... starting with 76 char levels instead of 51 and converting chance to hit and defense to something more equal to d2's attack rating and defense... d1 is super linear resulting in hitting everything or hitting nothing... |
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| 11:06.37 | Bommes | Hmm, but maybe that will disappoint ppl who expect a full D1 remake |
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| 11:14.16 | Ahli | I never intended that |
| 11:15.15 | Zolden | hits duckies with twodie and also hits Otixa with MapsterBot |
| 11:15.54 | duckies | puts zolden into a bottle and throws into the ocean |
| 11:18.33 | Zolden | swears to take vengeance in approximately 1000 years if he's lucky and a fisherman pulls the bottle away from octopus' stomach! |
| 11:19.20 | Zolden | twodie: yesterday we had a nice fight with a good player, and we both realized, that it's just ridiculous: who starts to spam towers all over the map -> wins |
| 11:19.51 | twodie | !!! |
| 11:20.22 | Zolden | you have to make its cost grow with every towerp placed |
| 11:20.36 | Zolden | or just give me the map, i'll make a candy out of it |
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| 12:07.11 | zenxu | "Blizzard All-Stars will have betas" |
| 12:07.15 | zenxu | from diablofans |
| 12:07.18 | zenxu | pretty weird hmm |
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| 12:33.50 | duckies | why weird zenxu? |
| 12:36.38 | G0A | duckies inda house! |
| 12:36.50 | G0A | today I will slay you in bomberbot! |
| 12:37.03 | duckies | looking forward to that g0a |
| 12:40.26 | Zolden | slay him G0A! |
| 12:45.06 | zenxu | is it even sc2 mod anymore |
| 12:45.11 | zenxu | if it has its own beta |
| 12:45.12 | zenxu | :Y |
| 12:46.31 | A1win | what has that got to do with anything D: |
| 12:46.55 | Zolden | zenxu, once I made a simpliest map ever: a button appear in a random place of screen, and cho clicks it first -> wins. And this mod has its beta. |
| 12:51.44 | zenxu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-acJBs-mzQ&list=PLE14F2057980335BE |
| 12:51.48 | zenxu | these clips are so hilarious |
| 13:01.30 | zenxu | I got some dota2 keys now myself |
| 13:01.33 | zenxu | if someone wants |
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| 13:05.20 | Saeris1 | blaaaaah |
| 13:05.40 | Saeris | php is pissing me off so much right now |
| 13:07.16 | Kubi | LOL |
| 13:07.17 | Kubi | WHY |
| 13:07.33 | Kubi | ~seen Blizz-Deletarius |
| 13:07.38 | purl | blizz-deletarius is currently on #sc2mapster (19h 47m 22s). Has said a total of 115 messages. Is idling for 13h 32m 50s, last said: 'and what league are you zen? ;)'. |
| 13:08.01 | zenxu | aww always talking about me |
| 13:08.03 | zenxu | how sweet |
| 13:08.04 | zenxu | ^^ |
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| 13:10.57 | Kubi | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:10.59 | Kubi | im mean |
| 13:11.30 | Kubi | I am so happy that I can map in hots editor and still beable to back to WoL to publish it |
| 13:11.39 | Kubi | hots editor feels more optimized too |
| 13:12.18 | Kubi | It's funny how Blizz-Deletarius was "gone" for almost a week and then HotS Cinamatic comes out then he comes back. |
| 13:12.36 | Kubi | CONSPIRACY THEORIES. |
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| 13:17.18 | G0A | Kubi he must be working for the government!:) |
| 13:17.37 | Kubi | If you mean by government the Dominion Republic.. then yes. |
| 13:17.51 | G0A | :) |
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| 13:48.41 | Zolden | Otixa: r u here? |
| 13:50.46 | Kubi | Zoleden: r u here? |
| 13:51.58 | Zolden | puts Kubi in a cube |
| 14:15.19 | Zolden | does anyone remember a walking snake model in wow? |
| 14:15.30 | Zolden | something like a snakeman from ufo |
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| 14:27.14 | Vindicator | Clearly deletarius made the cinematic on his own |
| 14:27.19 | Vindicator | and he just finished |
| 14:28.02 | TheSkunk__ | Hah, I didn't even realize he was here |
| 14:28.11 | TheSkunk__ | he was gone for so long I stopped checking the user list |
| 14:28.14 | TheSkunk__ | :P |
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| 14:53.54 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | good mornig everybody |
| 14:56.18 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | hello Deletarius |
| 14:56.32 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i have a question for you |
| 14:58.05 | Zolden | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx: have you ever tried to reanimate wow models? |
| 14:58.21 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | no |
| 14:58.24 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | why do you ask |
| 14:58.47 | Zolden | because it works strange |
| 14:58.56 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | sorry dont know how to pm in web cliet |
| 14:59.09 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | what do you mean it works strange |
| 15:01.06 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | Zolden you good with modeling |
| 15:01.25 | Zolden | if I select a bone and it has no keys, and I add keys, it acts like it has keys, so may key only affect 1 frame instead of affecting a range |
| 15:01.42 | Zolden | i'm a good noob with modelling i'd say |
| 15:01.50 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | dan |
| 15:01.52 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | darn |
| 15:02.08 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i was hoping someone has an insight to my tranparency issue |
| 15:03.09 | Dogmai | what do you want to know xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx |
| 15:03.26 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/artist-tavern/47879-why-does-this-happen/#p1 |
| 15:03.53 | Dogmai | you are messing up your alpha channels |
| 15:03.58 | Dogmai | on the textures |
| 15:04.13 | Dogmai | try saving as dxt3 |
| 15:04.29 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | dxt 3 |
| 15:04.29 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok ill try that |
| 15:04.43 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | but what explains it working when imported directly to the map |
| 15:09.36 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | like i can link the model |
| 15:09.56 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | Dogmai: if you want to look at the textures |
| 15:10.38 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | Dogmai: it does it with dxt3 textures aswell |
| 15:11.52 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | how do you do pms in the web irc client |
| 15:11.54 | Blizz-Deletarius | zolden |
| 15:11.57 | Blizz-Deletarius | are you there? |
| 15:12.04 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | he dle |
| 15:12.04 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | dele |
| 15:12.08 | Blizz-Deletarius | hi |
| 15:12.12 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i have a question |
| 15:12.13 | Blizz-Deletarius | not gonna type your name |
| 15:12.15 | Blizz-Deletarius | but hu |
| 15:12.17 | Blizz-Deletarius | hi( |
| 15:12.20 | Blizz-Deletarius | bah |
| 15:12.27 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | you a blizz rep |
| 15:12.42 | Blizz-Deletarius | I wouldn' say "rep" but I work at blizzard on the sc2 editor team |
| 15:12.52 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok do you know this problem |
| 15:12.53 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/artist-tavern/47879-why-does-this-happen/#p1 |
| 15:12.59 | Dogmai | i dont have time to look at your textures mate |
| 15:13.01 | Dogmai | sorry |
| 15:13.08 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i have it with any model that has transparent parts |
| 15:13.42 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok dogmai thats fine |
| 15:13.48 | Blizz-Deletarius | dragon |
| 15:13.57 | Blizz-Deletarius | when you say transparent parts, you' |
| 15:14.05 | Blizz-Deletarius | re talking about un-skinned, right? |
| 15:14.15 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | well you see those rocks |
| 15:14.25 | Blizz-Deletarius | yes |
| 15:14.35 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | its one big ribbon that is textured with rocks and greenish parts |
| 15:14.50 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | the greenish parts should be killed with alpha channel |
| 15:15.05 | Blizz-Deletarius | well |
| 15:15.08 | Blizz-Deletarius | 2 things |
| 15:15.09 | Blizz-Deletarius | 1 |
| 15:15.32 | Blizz-Deletarius | why not just have them as separate parts of the model, but not connected via any mesh? |
| 15:15.46 | Blizz-Deletarius | and 2 |
| 15:15.54 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i could but i ripped the model from d3 |
| 15:15.59 | Blizz-Deletarius | are you using the correct texture type to make the |
| 15:16.00 | Blizz-Deletarius | oh |
| 15:16.15 | Blizz-Deletarius | so this isn't something that you made in max or blender or something? |
| 15:16.17 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | the thing is though it works if imported to a map |
| 15:16.24 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | well i sorta did |
| 15:16.42 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i took the base modle and waypoint model and mashed them together and gave them animations |
| 15:17.21 | Blizz-Deletarius | so can you modify the geometry at all? |
| 15:17.44 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | not realy without it taking forevor to remake the polygons |
| 15:18.11 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | im not that good with modeling either so im not sure how to texture it |
| 15:18.37 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | but it doesnt explain why mod files dont show the tranparent parts |
| 15:27.11 | Tolkfan | what's this about all-stars being a standalone game? No longer a mod? :O |
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| 15:27.45 | Tolkfan | http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=509442 |
| 15:28.19 | Blizz-Deletarius | he never says that |
| 15:29.30 | Tolkfan | "you will not have to have StarCraft 2 to play" o.O |
| 15:30.07 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | tolkfan that can be misunderstood |
| 15:30.18 | Tolkfan | I guess it's like a different install? like download only the all-stars files |
| 15:30.18 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | it could mean you dont need a bought copy |
| 15:30.37 | Tolkfan | or the trial version of sc2 |
| 15:30.47 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | but sixen did find an interview with them hinting a standalone game |
| 15:31.02 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i saw it in his tweets |
| 15:32.33 | TheSkunk__ | Just because it won't require a sc2 license doesn't mean it wont use the sc2 client as a mod |
| 15:32.44 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ^^ exactly |
| 15:32.59 | Tolkfan | yeah, I just panicked :P |
| 15:33.05 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol |
| 15:33.34 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i wonder how many league players blizz will steal with thier awesome dota |
| 15:37.26 | Tolkfan | how do you know it's awesome, they've barely shown it :p |
| 15:38.00 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i was being optimistic |
| 15:38.12 | Blizz-Deletarius | :) |
| 15:38.15 | Zolden | Blizz-Deletarius: hey, I'm here, what is it? |
| 15:38.18 | Blizz-Deletarius | ok |
| 15:38.20 | Blizz-Deletarius | so Zolden |
| 15:38.27 | Blizz-Deletarius | your texture issues |
| 15:38.32 | Zolden | yea? |
| 15:38.53 | Zolden | managed to get that box with working normals? |
| 15:38.55 | Blizz-Deletarius | your normal map is 100% incorrect |
| 15:38.57 | Blizz-Deletarius | no |
| 15:39.51 | Zolden | well, normal map made by your guy looked the same as my normal map.. but go on |
| 15:39.56 | Blizz-Deletarius | your normal map has an incorrect green channel, uses 84 grey flat instead of 128, and uses left to right deflection instead of top to bottom |
| 15:41.16 | Blizz-Deletarius | http://i.imgur.com/SsaNTGL.png |
| 15:46.56 | Zolden | Blizz-Deletarius: I should have to attach my actual normal map instead of that jpg. Because my normal map is exactly the same as blizz one's: 128 flat and top to bottom green. Our problem is that community m3 exporter writes information about vertex normals wrong. We want to fix it, but we need to find out, what is wrong with m3 generated by the exporter. It's why I asked for the model - to compare m3 file parameters |
| 15:47.41 | Blizz-Deletarius | I don't know what to tell you man |
| 15:48.53 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | deletarius i update my thread to include my textures and model file |
| 15:49.01 | Zolden | oh, it's easy, you can tell me one of the 2 things: 1. I can get you the box. 2. I can't get you the box |
| 15:49.37 | Saeris | heh. gl getting the 3rd party exporter fixed |
| 15:50.00 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | saeris: whats wromg with it |
| 15:50.03 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | wrong* |
| 15:50.06 | Zolden | we will fix it |
| 15:50.08 | Saeris | lots of things |
| 15:50.26 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | like |
| 15:50.30 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | it works fine for me |
| 15:50.38 | Saeris | the materials being buggy are one thing |
| 15:50.42 | Saeris | animation is another |
| 15:50.46 | Saeris | same with collision |
| 15:50.50 | Saeris | and attachment points |
| 15:50.58 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ah |
| 15:51.15 | Saeris | and lighting, and particles |
| 15:51.36 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | whats wrong with the materials |
| 15:52.11 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | and shouldnt the startools fix all that |
| 15:52.15 | Saeris | zolden just provided a perfect example, the way it handles normal maps is wrong |
| 15:52.23 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ya i guess |
| 15:52.32 | Saeris | yes they will, most likely |
| 15:53.27 | Zolden | Blizz-Deletarius: this is green channel of the normal we've been using for experiments - same as yours http://snag.gy/1XJD6.jpg |
| 15:53.35 | Saeris | the 3rd party tools were made by reverse engineering a file format, which is inherently problematic |
| 15:54.37 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ya |
| 15:54.48 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | is it true that star tolls is what blizz uses |
| 15:54.48 | Zolden | Saeris: most of you mentioned is fixed in the new version, one thing fixed yesterday, the rest will be fixed soon. And I'd use startools instead, but I can't |
| 15:55.19 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ya i would like to use startools too might fix my issue i dont know |
| 15:56.03 | Blizz-Deletarius | I just sent out an email about startools and if there's any update on that |
| 15:56.55 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | hey deletarius do you use startools |
| 15:57.02 | Blizz-Deletarius | no |
| 15:57.10 | Blizz-Deletarius | I've used them once |
| 15:57.10 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | what do you guys use |
| 15:57.19 | Blizz-Deletarius | well I'm not a modeler for sc2 |
| 15:57.22 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ah |
| 15:57.33 | Blizz-Deletarius | I also use maya myself, barely used max ever |
| 15:57.36 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | but do you know what the modelers use |
| 15:57.40 | Blizz-Deletarius | startools |
| 15:57.42 | Zolden | Blizz-Deletarius: btw, thank you for your attempts to help, we appreciate :) |
| 15:57.55 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ya same here ^^ |
| 15:58.11 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | but i think my issue is with editor itself |
| 16:00.08 | Blizz-Deletarius | afk for a while |
| 16:00.10 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | is there any blizzard models that have transparent parts only one i can think of is the arcon |
| 16:00.12 | Saeris | brb, food time, then more testing |
| 16:00.51 | Blizz-Deletarius | archon isn't a transparent part |
| 16:00.58 | Blizz-Deletarius | er have any transparent parts |
| 16:01.22 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | oh damn |
| 16:01.30 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | does any unit have any |
| 16:01.37 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | like tepest |
| 16:01.45 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | with its weaopon |
| 16:01.50 | Blizz-Deletarius | that's all particles and shaders |
| 16:01.57 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | damn |
| 16:02.07 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol |
| 16:02.07 | Blizz-Deletarius | uhhhhhhh |
| 16:02.07 | Blizz-Deletarius | there are |
| 16:02.15 | Blizz-Deletarius | search for "crack" in doodads |
| 16:02.20 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | what about mother |
| 16:02.39 | Blizz-Deletarius | anyway, gotta head out for a while |
| 16:04.32 | Zolden | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx: what blend mode do you use for the mesh with transparency? do you have alpha map? do you have cutout > 0? |
| 16:04.43 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | yes |
| 16:04.55 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ive tried alpha blend with cutout 1 |
| 16:05.03 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | and opaque with cutout 1 |
| 16:08.39 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | um lol i load marsara crackand its a trigle |
| 16:08.43 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | traingle |
| 16:08.50 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | triangle* |
| 16:09.03 | Zolden | you most probably need alpha blend with cutout whiter than invisible parts' alpha value |
| 16:09.20 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | what is cutout |
| 16:09.30 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | like my aplha parts i believe is black |
| 16:09.44 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i have the texture uploaded |
| 16:09.46 | Zolden | all parts with alpha darker than cutout will be invisible |
| 16:10.03 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | cutout is a rgb value |
| 16:10.52 | Zolden | yea |
| 16:11.09 | Zolden | but use "render alpha only" checkbox for alpha map |
| 16:11.17 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | what is the difference form alpha add and blend |
| 16:11.19 | Zolden | or use grayscale color scheme |
| 16:11.27 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | oh ok |
| 16:11.45 | Zolden | alpha add adds colors, so it glow |
| 16:11.49 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | let me try that so the cut out i should have since my aplha part is black i use 255 |
| 16:11.56 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | oh |
| 16:12.05 | Zolden | bled overwrites, so it simply semitransparent |
| 16:13.31 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | so i should use cut out of 255 |
| 16:13.37 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | cause thats black write |
| 16:13.39 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | right |
| 16:14.10 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | wait thats white |
| 16:14.16 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | black is 0 |
| 16:14.23 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | now wait a second |
| 16:14.36 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ive had it 0 before and it didnt work either |
| 16:15.30 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | question should the tranparency work in 3dsmax |
| 16:15.44 | Zolden | 1 is enough if you use black |
| 16:15.49 | Zolden | black = 0 |
| 16:17.34 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | still doing it zolden i have render alpha map as only alpha and have cut out set to 1 |
| 16:18.09 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | with blend set to alpha blend |
| 16:18.26 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | what does priority do |
| 16:23.00 | Zolden | priority decides waht mesh will be seen |
| 16:23.18 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | oh |
| 16:23.21 | Zolden | if both meshes has 0, it's spatially dependent |
| 16:23.24 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | so dont worry about ut |
| 16:23.49 | Zolden | if mesh has higher priority it will be visible even if spatially it's covered by another mesh with lower priority |
| 16:24.21 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | so it has nothing to do with alpha |
| 16:24.43 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | is it good practise to use my diffuse picture as my alpha mask |
| 16:25.53 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | wait i noticed some models use team colour as alpha could i change that so they are see through |
| 16:28.28 | Zolden | yes, if you have alpha map and blend mode = alpha blend, you can make it invisible, even if diffuse has alpha as team color flag on |
| 16:30.15 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | im gonna try to make the armory have its alpha parts |
| 16:31.12 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | hey it worked sorta i can still see parts but is its semi transparent |
| 16:31.43 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | now why da fuck did it work if the model thats having the issue was built on the armory |
| 16:32.17 | Zolden | dunno |
| 16:32.41 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | now it is still sorta visible is that due to specularity is 20 |
| 16:34.45 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | oh wait the armory diffuse uses white as its alpah |
| 16:34.48 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | alpha |
| 16:35.15 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | but i cannot make cut out higher than 100 |
| 16:37.36 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | actually a cutout of 100 is not different than 0 in this case |
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| 16:59.24 | Monkalizer | im so happy today: i had two really cool assets which i had no idea what i should do with, but then i managed to combine them in a really awsome way ^^ |
| 17:00.02 | Zolden | what assets? penis nad vagina? |
| 17:00.21 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | haha |
| 17:00.26 | Monkalizer | neh: gunship mod and a map with a city on it |
| 17:00.36 | Monkalizer | shame on you, filthy Zolden |
| 17:00.42 | Monkalizer | tss tss |
| 17:01.43 | Zolden | why americans do that gesture like they making a pen sharper with a knife, but with index fingers? |
| 17:02.13 | Kubi | i.imgur.com/0BAy5SK.png what is it this in the hots trailer? |
| 17:02.18 | G0A | duckies I am having blasterbots game with 7 player who has over 300 kills.D |
| 17:02.19 | Saeris | hey Blizz-Deletarius, could the editor possibly get a Close All command? That and being able to specify 'Use Latest' for custom dependencies would be nice |
| 17:02.44 | Kubi | HOTS EDITOR HAS UI EDITOR |
| 17:02.54 | Kubi | PRAISE OUR NEW OVERLORD GODS |
| 17:02.55 | Monkalizer | Kubi: subliminal marketing for party and beer-drinking? |
| 17:03.51 | Monkalizer | Saeris: there should also be an auto complete button that finishes the work |
| 17:04.45 | Saeris | yea that would be nice too. though I think use latest would pretty much do just that |
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| 17:05.18 | iMisu | Good morning |
| 17:05.40 | Kubi | iMisu, I mis u |
| 17:06.19 | iMisu | Never heard that one.. **knee slapp** |
| 17:06.35 | iMisu | **serious face** |
| 17:06.51 | iMisu | :P |
| 17:07.38 | iMisu | Irc on phone so I really slow to reply |
| 17:08.07 | iMisu | I have to listen to terrible music |
| 17:09.44 | Monkalizer | why torture yourself with that? |
| 17:11.26 | iMisu | Cause the surgical staff are old douches |
| 17:11.59 | iMisu | I do t wana listen to Micheal Jackson and backstreet garbage |
| 17:12.47 | Monkalizer | huh? your in surgery and chatting on mapster? |
| 17:13.32 | iMisu | I am outside my case room I'm first one here and nothing to do till the first doctor arrives |
| 17:15.08 | iMisu | I am surgical assistant for OR |
| 17:15.20 | Monkalizer | mhm |
| 17:15.22 | iMisu | And not allowed to touch doctor stuff.... |
| 17:15.34 | Zolden | what's OR? |
| 17:15.45 | Monkalizer | inluding their michel jackson stuff? |
| 17:15.53 | Zolden | lol |
| 17:16.10 | iMisu | I unplugged his ipod and never heard the end of it |
| 17:16.13 | Monkalizer | sensitive doctors |
| 17:16.56 | Zolden | what if doctor arrives and figures out that everyone perfectly healed by you yet? will you get punished or rewarded? |
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| 17:17.53 | Monkalizer | one thing ive always wondered: what part of the protoss are connected to the kahlai? wheres the antennae? |
| 17:18.14 | iMisu | Hello 2.4Ghz |
| 17:18.16 | Monkalizer | punished! you turned off michel jacksson! |
| 17:18.23 | iMisu | Antenna inside |
| 17:18.46 | iMisu | Punished? What are you talking abour |
| 17:19.04 | hobbidude | its in the long ponytail |
| 17:19.20 | Monkalizer | oh |
| 17:19.30 | Monkalizer | yeah |
| 17:19.36 | Monkalizer | http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/7104826/StarCraft_II_Creative_Development_QA_-_Part_13-22_01_2013 |
| 17:19.48 | Monkalizer | at a closer look they are in fact cut of |
| 17:20.20 | iMisu | I tell you internal antennas |
| 17:20.47 | Monkalizer | i always thought it was the dark templar haircut |
| 17:21.48 | hobbidude | i like that they add the bc specs- that was actually asked on a fefw occassions |
| 17:22.43 | Monkalizer | yeah, but hard facts are terrible when it comes to painting yourself into a corner story.wise |
| 17:23.31 | Monkalizer | https://bnetcmseu-a.akamaihd.net/cms/gallery/ZVUOX7WHK83V1350642589120.jpg?v=0 |
| 17:23.40 | Monkalizer | zealots have thicker antenna-hair |
| 17:24.47 | hobbidude | so they do are they're told lol |
| 17:25.00 | hobbidude | that was just a random quess on the hair too lmao |
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| 17:26.43 | Monkalizer | i wonder if the khala includes something like facebook |
| 17:26.59 | Monkalizer | where they can share memories and comment other peoples memories |
| 17:27.38 | Monkalizer | if humans would have kahla it would only be used for porn, thats for sure |
| 17:30.07 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | hey Zolden |
| 17:31.25 | Zolden | yea? |
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| 17:32.09 | Eimtr | hey can any1 tell me where is the construction model that terran buildings use |
| 17:34.35 | iMisu | Models |
| 17:34.48 | iMisu | Under construction |
| 17:34.49 | Eimtr | yes whiich folder.. |
| 17:35.01 | iMisu | Look under the structure you want to copy |
| 17:35.10 | iMisu | Look in models |
| 17:35.15 | iMisu | You see it list |
| 17:35.29 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i fixed it |
| 17:35.50 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | it turns out that if you have an alpha colour lets sayblack |
| 17:36.03 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | the colour on the diffuse need to be black too |
| 17:37.11 | Eimtr | iMisu you mean model build? |
| 17:37.17 | Eimtr | in data editor? |
| 17:37.23 | iMisu | Yes |
| 17:37.32 | iMisu | You see under the unit |
| 17:37.38 | iMisu | In data editor |
| 17:37.42 | iMisu | Models |
| 17:37.45 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | deletarius |
| 17:37.55 | iMisu | I'm not at computer. |
| 17:38.09 | Eimtr | ah yeah i mean the model while they are constructed |
| 17:38.19 | Eimtr | is it a single model for buildings |
| 17:38.24 | Eimtr | or is it soem animation of each |
| 17:38.45 | Eimtr | cause I want to imitate a building under construction while repaired |
| 17:39.00 | Eimtr | by replacing its model with soime construction miodel |
| 17:39.03 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | you could create the build model in its place |
| 17:39.06 | iMisu | It listed there |
| 17:39.18 | iMisu | I used it to build a doodad |
| 17:39.23 | iMisu | For protoss |
| 17:39.41 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ah protoss ther build model is that warp in model |
| 17:39.57 | iMisu | Yes |
| 17:40.04 | iMisu | Same for terran |
| 17:40.14 | iMisu | Zerg use morph |
| 17:40.16 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | terran is a different model |
| 17:40.25 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | but yes |
| 17:40.27 | iMisu | Of course differ model |
| 17:40.32 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | :P |
| 17:40.32 | iMisu | But same spot |
| 17:40.36 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ya |
| 17:41.06 | Eimtr | ah found it must be under Effects\Terran there are the building models |
| 17:41.32 | iMisu | Yay gj |
| 17:42.45 | Eimtr | ok t hanks |
| 17:43.17 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | just noticed in the models they have a build model for each terran building |
| 17:43.33 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | using hots editor |
| 17:43.35 | Eimtr | not sure, i saw effects\terran |
| 17:43.46 | Eimtr | oh hots editor, didnt browse the files there yet |
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| 17:44.08 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i searched build in the editor under tab moels and there there |
| 17:44.25 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | models* |
| 17:50.45 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i take it the hots editor uses same models as wings |
| 17:51.00 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | dont quote me on that though |
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| 17:59.26 | Monkalizer | any eu:ians who would like to help me test a map? |
| 17:59.37 | iMisu | :( |
| 18:01.02 | iMisu | An old man... Turn 98 won the lottery..... Died the next day.... Pft |
| 18:01.18 | iMisu | Little ironic... Don't ya think...... |
| 18:02.04 | iMisu | ITS LIKE RAAAAAAAAIIIIIINNNNNN ON YOUR WEDING DAY.... ITS A FREE RIDE WHEN YOU'RE ALREADY LATE....... |
| 18:03.26 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i have a question is anybody elses hots saying they are starter edition |
| 18:03.57 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | when they login |
| 18:04.01 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i cannot publish maps |
| 18:04.17 | Monkalizer | one of my professors died 5 days after retirement |
| 18:04.36 | Monkalizer | check if they are doing maintenance |
| 18:04.44 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | nope |
| 18:04.44 | iMisu | Starter edition? Is that what she said? |
| 18:04.57 | Monkalizer | life sucks - and then it doesnt - and then you die |
| 18:05.03 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | im gonn try my friends account |
| 18:05.24 | iMisu | Life doesnt stop sucking... |
| 18:05.43 | iMisu | Well actually it depends on your gender... O. O |
| 18:06.03 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | women get all the perks |
| 18:06.18 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | because they areclassified as a minority |
| 18:06.56 | iMisu | Wow. |
| 18:07.00 | iMisu | Sexist |
| 18:08.05 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | wtf why does my hots say starter did they revoke beta access?? |
| 18:08.11 | Blizz-Deletarius | :| |
| 18:08.13 | Blizz-Deletarius | ut oh |
| 18:08.16 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | but my frineds doesnt |
| 18:08.17 | TheSkunk__ | http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/5492350327?page=1 |
| 18:08.41 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | this is wierd |
| 18:09.08 | Monkalizer | seems like some authenicator service has crashed |
| 18:09.17 | TheSkunk__ | works fine for me |
| 18:09.19 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | im confused |
| 18:09.24 | TheSkunk__ | anyway that thread I linked too |
| 18:09.26 | TheSkunk__ | is relevent |
| 18:09.56 | twodie | Monkalizer you still need testers? |
| 18:10.04 | Monkalizer | oh yes! |
| 18:10.13 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | so according to the link i should contact blizz |
| 18:10.15 | Monkalizer | they spawn now :) |
| 18:10.24 | Monkalizer | at least i think they do! |
| 18:10.28 | Blizz-Deletarius | well |
| 18:10.30 | twodie | :] |
| 18:10.53 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | hey deletarius i did fix my issue |
| 18:10.55 | Blizz-Deletarius | if the rep says that the issue has been escalated, then it's been escalated, I don't know that contacting blizz would help any |
| 18:10.58 | Monkalizer | if they say they are workig on it they probably are |
| 18:10.59 | Blizz-Deletarius | oh? |
| 18:11.05 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | with the model |
| 18:11.09 | Blizz-Deletarius | what was the problem? |
| 18:11.35 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | the part i was trying to remve was the wrong colour it must match the alpha |
| 18:11.42 | Blizz-Deletarius | gotcha |
| 18:11.46 | Blizz-Deletarius | well good :) |
| 18:12.05 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | :) |
| 18:12.20 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | did you know about this issue with retail going into starter |
| 18:12.40 | Monkalizer | twodie: still want to test? |
| 18:12.44 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | seems like my account is screwed up |
| 18:12.57 | twodie | monk yeah slowly trying to join the game |
| 18:13.01 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | my portraight is missing |
| 18:13.10 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | let me check retail sc2 |
| 18:14.45 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | well retail is fine phff |
| 18:15.07 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | im gonna place a support ticket |
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| 18:17.28 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | cool they have a live chat feature |
| 18:18.15 | nooblark | question of the day! |
| 18:18.34 | nooblark | any way to completely reset all data to normal on a map? |
| 18:20.01 | nooblark | afk i'm going to play my drums for awhile :) |
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| 18:33.06 | hobbidude | can anyone help - im trying to set the center of the spider mine to time color |
| 18:33.16 | hobbidude | team color srry |
| 18:37.03 | ThunderLord | dont you need to do custom textures for that? |
| 18:38.05 | iMisu | No |
| 18:38.21 | hobbidude | i tried that |
| 18:38.27 | iMisu | You could use a trigger to color all of it |
| 18:38.38 | iMisu | Sometimes it looks good |
| 18:38.44 | iMisu | Sometimes bad |
| 18:38.45 | hobbidude | just want the center not all of it |
| 18:38.52 | hobbidude | all of it is just a standard tint |
| 18:38.55 | ThunderLord | yeah u gotta do some custom textures |
| 18:39.08 | iMisu | I don't think you need custom |
| 18:39.14 | ThunderLord | not sure how to paint "Team Color" on thsoe things |
| 18:39.17 | iMisu | I seen people do it fast |
| 18:39.34 | ThunderLord | maybe there is already textures on SC2 mapster for that then |
| 18:39.37 | hobbidude | i thought teamcolor was just the alpha on the diffuse |
| 18:39.57 | ThunderLord | uhhh, maybe |
| 18:40.00 | ThunderLord | im not sure |
| 18:40.22 | ThunderLord | i know u need a custom texture to do that tho, and if people do it fast, they are prolly on SC2 Mapster somewhere |
| 18:42.08 | iMisu | Kubi |
| 18:42.33 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | hobbidude: teamcolour is only alpha on the diffuse map |
| 18:42.52 | hobbidude | tried that |
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| 18:44.37 | hobbidude_ | i already exported starbase1_em and converted the red color to alpha but no go |
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| 18:57.02 | nooblark | LF 1 tester. Need about 3 minutes of your time! |
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| 19:16.52 | Kubi | ?? |
| 19:17.43 | nooblark | before i open my editor wasting time |
| 19:17.53 | nooblark | is there a 'null' option for int variables? |
| 19:18.26 | Exaken | you can put in as a custom script |
| 19:18.52 | nooblark | i just realized the doodads and units misu put on map are owned by player 0, and one trigger compares # of units of owner of hill to other payers, and 0 is default owner (so he 'has' units in the mid) |
| 19:19.14 | nooblark | i'll just switch it to player 16 |
| 19:19.24 | nooblark | or is it 15? |
| 19:19.28 | nooblark | which one is hostile? |
| 19:19.31 | Exaken | 15 I think |
| 19:19.34 | nooblark | okay |
| 19:19.35 | nooblark | thanks |
| 19:20.25 | Kubi | I have to stop playing Final Frontier |
| 19:20.29 | Kubi | It's consuming my life |
| 19:20.38 | Kubi | each game is around 2-3 hours |
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| 19:21.21 | Taintedwisp | Well my laptop died.... I dont think imma be able to get it to work..... |
| 19:21.34 | Taintedwisp | No matter what I do none of the lights will come on or anything |
| 19:21.43 | Kubi | so your maps gone bye bye |
| 19:21.45 | Kubi | ? |
| 19:21.51 | Taintedwisp | I tried the static discharge trick too |
| 19:21.55 | Taintedwisp | No Kubi :P |
| 19:21.59 | Taintedwisp | I am a bit more secure then that |
| 19:22.12 | Taintedwisp | I have 3 spare copies of my map, Plus they are backed up on Dropbox |
| 19:22.23 | nooblark | mmm, what if i set it to a player that does not exist, like 20? |
| 19:22.28 | Taintedwisp | Everything I kept on that computer that couldnt be re-installed is in dropbox too |
| 19:22.30 | Taintedwisp | hah |
| 19:22.36 | Exaken | I don't think hat is possible |
| 19:22.57 | Taintedwisp | nooblark Battle.net only supports 16 plays max I believe |
| 19:23.12 | Taintedwisp | And with 16 players you have to remove the neutral/hostiles |
| 19:23.16 | nooblark | 0 nutreal, 1-14 user, 15 hostile, right? |
| 19:23.21 | Exaken | yes |
| 19:23.25 | nooblark | mmk |
| 19:23.29 | Exaken | 16 total |
| 19:23.37 | nooblark | i don't like that i can't make the value null |
| 19:24.13 | nooblark | or undefined. |
| 19:24.24 | Taintedwisp | The good news is, the harddrive is fine so EVERYTHING that ISNT in Dropbox is still there |
| 19:24.37 | Taintedwisp | i just have to transfer it, which I have all the tools to do as well |
| 19:24.48 | Taintedwisp | but yeah the PSU died in it... |
| 19:24.58 | nooblark | in your laptop? |
| 19:25.02 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 19:25.08 | nooblark | the PSU is external (//.-) |
| 19:25.16 | Taintedwisp | Theres one inside too |
| 19:25.20 | Exaken | You can make it -1 though |
| 19:25.23 | Taintedwisp | That regulates the power from the cord/battery |
| 19:25.43 | nooblark | player -1 |
| 19:25.50 | nooblark | that will work? lol |
| 19:25.53 | Taintedwisp | I dont tihnk the cord is getting power to the computer any more |
| 19:25.53 | Exaken | Don't know |
| 19:26.13 | Taintedwisp | unfortunatly its a dell, soooo i dunno how much a PSU would cost |
| 19:26.43 | nooblark | anything bought from a store = broken if it dies |
| 19:26.44 | Exaken | No player = -1 |
| 19:26.48 | nooblark | lol |
| 19:27.11 | nooblark | my parents pc had a broken motherboard, HP was chargin 300 (maybe it was 400) to fix it. |
| 19:27.24 | nooblark | the motherboard was the ONLY part that was not 'purchasable' |
| 19:27.48 | nooblark | wait a sec exaken |
| 19:27.50 | nooblark | you're telling me |
| 19:27.59 | nooblark | there are number values that equal no player? |
| 19:28.12 | nooblark | which means there is one for any player... |
| 19:28.16 | nooblark | what is it? :P |
| 19:28.20 | Exaken | there is a preset called No Player, which is -1 |
| 19:29.12 | nooblark | what trigger are you using to see the preset |
| 19:29.27 | Exaken | Yuo can set a variable to it |
| 19:30.07 | Kubi | i wonder if they'll make a dialog editor similar to ui editor in hots |
| 19:30.40 | nooblark | but it doesn't say -1 to me, even with raw data enabled |
| 19:30.55 | Taintedwisp | Well even if it is fixable... Its a 3 yr old laptop, so it probably wouldnt even be worth it |
| 19:30.56 | nooblark | there's a UI editor in HotS? |
| 19:30.57 | Exaken | it doesn't because you refer to a constant |
| 19:31.06 | Taintedwisp | yes nooblark one that doesnt work :P |
| 19:31.10 | Taintedwisp | its unfinished |
| 19:31.10 | nooblark | like a GUI UI? |
| 19:31.13 | Taintedwisp | yup |
| 19:31.16 | nooblark | WOPW |
| 19:31.20 | Taintedwisp | Ctrl + alt + f12 |
| 19:31.23 | Taintedwisp | while in test mode |
| 19:31.24 | nooblark | dialog boxes would be pimp as hell |
| 19:31.55 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 19:32.00 | nooblark | Exaken, I'm curious how you saw it as "-1" |
| 19:32.02 | Taintedwisp | you can also create new dialogs in it |
| 19:32.03 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:32.40 | Exaken | The editor handles " |
| 19:33.42 | nooblark | even in the script: gv_kotHOwner = c_playerAny; |
| 19:34.22 | nooblark | c_ i assume is saying that's a variable, of constant. but i want to see the value! lol |
| 19:35.12 | nooblark | i have an idea. |
| 19:35.12 | Kubi | i hope i get in the elder scrolls mmo |
| 19:36.49 | nooblark | lol made a trigger to display variable |
| 19:36.53 | nooblark | and i set it to no player |
| 19:41.47 | Kubi | nooblark |
| 19:41.47 | Kubi | http://s183.beta.photobucket.com/user/11shadowwolf/media/joey.jpg.html |
| 19:41.49 | Kubi | this u |
| 19:42.20 | nooblark | yes |
| 19:42.22 | nooblark | it is |
| 19:42.26 | nooblark | i have a body like that |
| 19:42.31 | Kubi | its in ur photobucket |
| 19:42.34 | Kubi | just wanted you to know |
| 19:42.41 | nooblark | okay |
| 19:42.55 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:43.08 | Taintedwisp | i made that about 5 years ago to pick on my little bro over myspace haha |
| 19:44.17 | iMisu-Angry | Wierdo |
| 19:44.40 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:45.00 | Taintedwisp | thats what happens when someone finds the crop feature in MS_Paint |
| 19:45.00 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 19:45.50 | Taintedwisp | imisu-angry, why you angry? |
| 19:45.51 | Taintedwisp | :P: |
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| 19:46.09 | iMisu-Angry | Cause I get dc on irc all time |
| 19:46.13 | nooblark | sp |
| 19:46.14 | nooblark | so |
| 19:46.15 | Taintedwisp | ahhhhh |
| 19:46.19 | zenx | hey so |
| 19:46.22 | nooblark | no player and any player both = -1 |
| 19:46.31 | zenx | is netbeans good development evnrioment for C? |
| 19:46.32 | Taintedwisp | go get a 3rd party client then :P that used to happen to me a lot |
| 19:46.35 | zenx | any idea? |
| 19:46.37 | nooblark | so any time it asks for a player value, you can input them as the value :O |
| 19:46.38 | zenx | Otixa: you know? |
| 19:46.48 | Taintedwisp | then one day, freenode quit being a dick |
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| 19:47.08 | iMisu-Angry | I have android irc |
| 19:47.30 | Taintedwisp | ahhh |
| 19:47.39 | Taintedwisp | thats your problem, PHONES ARE THE DEVILS WORK!!!!!! |
| 19:48.04 | Taintedwisp | < never picking up 1 freakin item at a grocery store or getting cigarettes for anyoine... just sayin |
| 19:48.16 | Taintedwisp | not on my way home anyways |
| 19:48.16 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:48.55 | Monkalizer | Tainted: woke up on the wrong side again? |
| 19:49.43 | Taintedwisp | How can one side be any different then any other side :P |
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| 19:49.58 | Monkalizer | the inside maybe |
| 19:50.05 | Taintedwisp | Both sides are pretty happy.... |
| 19:50.20 | Taintedwisp | Supposed to hear something back about my car today :D |
| 19:50.36 | Taintedwisp | A broken computer isnt enough to make me feel bad haha |
| 19:50.53 | Monkalizer | im trying to figure out how to simulate a flying movement for a mod. the current system is not working properly (a set of cameras rigged around a centerpoint, changig slowly) |
| 19:51.00 | nooblark | if i put owner = 15, it defeats as soon as game starts; if i set owner = -1, it victories. |
| 19:51.03 | nooblark | wtf blizzard |
| 19:51.18 | Monkalizer | does anyone have any idea where i could read about these things? what i should search for |
| 19:51.22 | nooblark | i want an undefined option! |
| 19:51.23 | Taintedwisp | owner 15 is Hostile its AI ONLY |
| 19:51.32 | nooblark | tainted |
| 19:51.32 | Taintedwisp | Same with owner 0 |
| 19:51.42 | nooblark | i have owner of hill variable, int |
| 19:51.48 | Taintedwisp | ohh |
| 19:51.50 | nooblark | it needs to have a value, default. |
| 19:51.51 | Taintedwisp | ;p |
| 19:51.54 | Taintedwisp | i hate triggers... |
| 19:51.56 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:51.58 | nooblark | i want it to be undefined |
| 19:52.00 | nooblark | or null |
| 19:52.04 | nooblark | no, option. |
| 19:52.08 | Monkalizer | set it to -2 then? |
| 19:52.20 | nooblark | it can't be 0, units in the map are owned by 0 |
| 19:52.28 | nooblark | can't be 15, results in instant loss |
| 19:52.37 | nooblark | can't be -1 (no player, or any player), instant win. |
| 19:52.39 | Monkalizer | make player 14 a dummy player |
| 19:52.48 | nooblark | but player 14 can be used |
| 19:52.49 | nooblark | lol |
| 19:52.50 | Monkalizer | most game lag to death with 14 players anyway |
| 19:53.07 | Exaken | doesn't the gme just end beacause you test it alone? |
| 19:53.16 | Taintedwisp | most games lag over 8 players -_- |
| 19:53.18 | Monkalizer | in theory it would mean a limitation, but in reality - not really |
| 19:53.25 | nooblark | does not have melee trigger |
| 19:53.45 | nooblark | only way to win is if a timer hits 0, and then owner (the one i'm trying to set) wins |
| 19:53.50 | Taintedwisp | danget...... |
| 19:53.53 | nooblark | and the timer is still full when the game starts.. |
| 19:53.54 | Monkalizer | is there something funny to to with the mapsterBot? |
| 19:54.06 | Taintedwisp | No some gay guy made the mapsterbot... |
| 19:54.10 | Taintedwisp | :D |
| 19:54.17 | Taintedwisp | Otixa |
| 19:54.18 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:54.31 | Taintedwisp | nah actually when its finished it will be useful from what he said |
| 19:54.42 | Taintedwisp | Its supposed to answer editor related questions when they are asked |
| 19:54.49 | Taintedwisp | by scouring the forums/wiki |
| 19:56.15 | Monkalizer | cool |
| 19:56.30 | Monkalizer | hope he makes it possible to mess with people through it too |
| 19:56.34 | Taintedwisp | but right now its just a troll bot |
| 19:56.34 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:57.01 | Taintedwisp | otixa says hes going to answer questions with it, imma laugh is all it does is link people to tinyurl meatspin.... |
| 19:57.46 | nooblark | fuck it.. i deleted misu's beacons in the middle. they were owned by player 0, and just set the starting player to 0 |
| 19:57.59 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:58.01 | Taintedwisp | hahahaha |
| 19:58.06 | nooblark | i'll sacrafice prettiness for funcionality |
| 19:58.10 | Taintedwisp | nooblark is such a noob |
| 19:58.11 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:58.32 | nooblark | go ahead tainted. |
| 19:58.33 | Taintedwisp | Nooblark just create a dummy actor to take its place |
| 19:58.49 | Taintedwisp | then all the dummy actor would be is for visuals |
| 19:59.01 | nooblark | by actor, you mean a player? |
| 19:59.05 | nooblark | all 16 are used. |
| 19:59.09 | Exaken | actor as in actor data |
| 19:59.18 | Taintedwisp | no you said you removed a beacon you dont HAVE to make an actor owned by a player I dont hink |
| 19:59.29 | nooblark | oh, i see |
| 19:59.33 | nooblark | change beacon to not be owned. |
| 19:59.47 | Taintedwisp | then if you want to color switch it do an actor message |
| 19:59.50 | nooblark | she can do that if she cares enough about how the map looks. |
| 20:00.02 | nooblark | my job is make it work |
| 20:00.06 | nooblark | her job is make it pretty. |
| 20:00.09 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 20:00.11 | Taintedwisp | hah |
| 20:00.31 | Taintedwisp | My job in my map is to make it work AND make it look pretty |
| 20:00.36 | Taintedwisp | AND do all the art :( |
| 20:00.38 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 20:01.54 | Taintedwisp | though I have a triggerer who ads extra things and prettyfies the UI :P |
| 20:02.40 | nooblark | well i was telling misu earlier |
| 20:02.48 | nooblark | my trigger bugs are funny |
| 20:02.58 | Taintedwisp | and a data editor who sometimes makes VERY simple abilities, which I pretty much delete and rework.... |
| 20:03.02 | nooblark | all the right stuff is there, just maybe in the wrong spot |
| 20:03.20 | nooblark | and when i find it, i'm like "WHAT?!?!.... WHO, DID, THIS? WHY IS... OMG. WTF." |
| 20:03.31 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 20:03.40 | Taintedwisp | imisu is trollin you |
| 20:03.51 | nooblark | i just had one of those moments. i remember adding a triggering player in group i == true.. yet the trigger was broked |
| 20:04.01 | nooblark | i put it in the wrong if statement. derp. |
| 20:04.02 | Taintedwisp | shes thinking "well damn if I move this bit of trigger here and break it all I get to see nooblark fret all over the place about it" |
| 20:04.05 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 20:04.10 | nooblark | lol |
| 20:04.12 | nooblark | she does that |
| 20:04.15 | nooblark | honestly |
| 20:04.19 | nooblark | if she adds stuff to the map |
| 20:04.22 | nooblark | and triggers it |
| 20:04.44 | nooblark | instead of making a new trigger called "NOOBLARK BLEND THIS" she edits the other ones |
| 20:04.53 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 20:04.58 | Taintedwisp | She should just do as I do |
| 20:04.58 | nooblark | and puts like 20 lines of triggers buried in it |
| 20:05.08 | Taintedwisp | Make a trigger folder called "My shitty triggers" |
| 20:05.09 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 20:05.16 | nooblark | LOL |
| 20:05.20 | Taintedwisp | ITs the designated folder for fix this mr triggerer |
| 20:05.32 | nooblark | yah |
| 20:05.37 | nooblark | all mine are pretty :P |
| 20:05.43 | nooblark | completely globalized |
| 20:06.03 | nooblark | no matter what team, what player, computer, zone, anything. all called by a loop and a variable :P |
| 20:06.23 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 20:06.44 | Taintedwisp | < makes the worst triggers known to starcraft 2 |
| 20:06.45 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 20:06.55 | Taintedwisp | I will just duplicate the action for each player :P |
| 20:07.04 | Taintedwisp | or in some cases the entire trigger |
| 20:07.05 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 20:07.17 | nooblark | so every unit owned can be called by owner[i], team[i], startingarea[i], etc. and where i is, it pulls the value of the loop and does it for everything for that one person, in the right spot, for the right team, on the right computer |
| 20:07.19 | nooblark | lololol |
| 20:07.20 | nooblark | you would. |
| 20:07.31 | Taintedwisp | but in data :)))) |
| 20:07.36 | nooblark | dude tainted |
| 20:07.37 | Taintedwisp | or in terrain i am fine |
| 20:07.38 | nooblark | easiest |
| 20:07.40 | nooblark | EASIEST |
| 20:07.42 | nooblark | is |
| 20:07.48 | Taintedwisp | DUN CARE HATE TRIGGERS |
| 20:07.51 | nooblark | pick each player in player group |
| 20:07.52 | nooblark | then |
| 20:07.54 | Taintedwisp | Lol |
| 20:08.01 | Taintedwisp | THat means making a player group ::( |
| 20:08.07 | Taintedwisp | you kno whow much work that is? |
| 20:08.08 | nooblark | do actions for picked player |
| 20:08.18 | nooblark | there are predefined player groups |
| 20:08.19 | nooblark | like |
| 20:08.22 | nooblark | all players |
| 20:08.23 | nooblark | active players. |
| 20:08.26 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 20:10.47 | Kubi | im going to grape you in the mouth |
| 20:11.47 | Monkalizer | why does drug-subcultures have the best music? |
| 20:12.09 | Kubi | that is an opinion |
| 20:18.20 | nooblark | yeah, a horrible one too |
| 20:19.04 | nooblark | considering there are a ton of varieties of drug subcultures that each listen to different music, enough to cover every culture of music. |
| 20:19.28 | nooblark | and genres |
| 20:19.36 | Kubi | I am scared to go to the gym because it's damn cold outside |
| 20:21.32 | Repo | New wiki entry: Galaxy / Triggers / Category User Types - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/triggers/category-user-types/ |
| 20:26.05 | iMisu-Angry | Need new wiki entry : full galaxy editor guide |
| 20:26.16 | Kubi | why imisu agnry |
| 20:27.07 | Repo | Updated wiki entry: Galaxy / Main Page - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/main-page/ |
| 20:27.42 | Kubi | lol repo ur funny |
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| 20:31.01 | Kubi | now i remember why i hated driving in minnesota |
| 20:31.11 | Kubi | you had to take 30 minutes to pre-heat your car before you drive. |
| 20:34.23 | Repo | Updated wiki entry: Galaxy / Triggers / Category User Types - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/triggers/category-user-types/ |
| 20:34.59 | Kubi | Repo, oh you. |
| 20:41.25 | nooblark | Kubi |
| 20:41.26 | nooblark | test? |
| 20:42.04 | Kubi | can't going to gym, my car is actually warming up |
| 20:42.05 | Kubi | lol |
| 20:42.47 | Kubi | be back in a hour or so |
| 20:43.10 | Kubi | spent 163$ on a gym membership I mind as well use it |
| 20:44.00 | Dustin|Home | Damnit Kubi |
| 20:44.01 | Kubi | doesnt blizzard hq have a gym |
| 20:44.04 | Kubi | those lucky bastards |
| 20:44.04 | Kubi | what |
| 20:44.15 | Dustin|Home | I was on arcade chat, going...I swear I Just saw this guy talking... |
| 20:44.26 | Kubi | DAT BE ME |
| 20:44.30 | Dustin|Home | then I look over at irc and you're tlaking about the gym here too |
| 20:45.06 | nooblark | lol |
| 20:45.09 | Kubi | Well |
| 20:45.14 | nooblark | dustin help test1!! |
| 20:45.15 | Kubi | Im sitting here waiting for my car to warm |
| 20:45.15 | nooblark | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.15 | Kubi | lol |
| 20:45.47 | Dustin|Home | whats ur map nooblark, im trying to get people to help me beat my map so far |
| 20:46.18 | nooblark | koth, i need like 3 minutes of your time |
| 20:46.29 | Repo | New wiki entry: Galaxy / Triggers / User Data Set Integer - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/triggers/user-data-set-integer/ |
| 20:46.33 | nooblark | and i'll even help you with yours, i'm sure i'm more competent than the other noobs you're using |
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| 20:48.41 | nooblark | kubi |
| 20:49.05 | eimtr | does any1 know, how can I make a 250 life building get repaired by scvs ultra slowly? |
| 20:49.12 | eimtr | can I do it through triggers? |
| 20:49.22 | nooblark | uhm |
| 20:49.25 | Monkalizer | there is a repair speed or heal speed parameter somewhere |
| 20:49.28 | nooblark | yeah |
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| 20:49.32 | Exaken | repar time on the unit |
| 20:49.37 | nooblark | not the scv |
| 20:49.39 | nooblark | the building |
| 20:49.40 | Monkalizer | yes |
| 20:49.56 | eimtr | where is repair time on unit? |
| 20:50.04 | Monkalizer | each unit has a repair time - the time it will take to regain all its health |
| 20:50.14 | nooblark | oh unit |
| 20:50.15 | nooblark | derp |
| 20:50.25 | nooblark | i'm like about to argue with you that the building and scv are different |
| 20:50.31 | Monkalizer | or at least i think so |
| 20:50.48 | Monkalizer | you can also heal with triggers - using a cycle or loop to ad dlife to a unit |
| 20:50.49 | nooblark | monk, can you help me test 2 triggers? won't take mroe than 3 minutes |
| 20:51.02 | eimtr | Monk where is the repair time? |
| 20:51.04 | Exaken | search for repair in the search bar |
| 20:51.05 | Monkalizer | ok |
| 20:51.07 | eimtr | in Stats? |
| 20:51.20 | nooblark | nooblark#886 |
| 20:51.28 | nooblark | message me |
| 20:51.52 | Monkalizer | are you on the eu server? |
| 20:52.02 | nooblark | no |
| 20:52.03 | nooblark | lol |
| 20:52.10 | nooblark | why so many eu people in here? |
| 20:52.11 | nooblark | fail. |
| 20:52.16 | Monkalizer | well... |
| 20:52.30 | Monkalizer | its evening time in eurozone now |
| 20:52.35 | iMisu-Angry | Eu nicer than NA. |
| 20:52.38 | Monkalizer | peoples fingers are itching |
| 20:52.39 | nooblark | lolol |
| 20:52.46 | Monkalizer | that too |
| 20:52.53 | Monkalizer | ^^ |
| 20:52.54 | nooblark | misu, UMAD? |
| 20:53.06 | nooblark | she don't like america |
| 20:53.10 | nooblark | yet she lives here. |
| 20:53.17 | eimtr | oj so repair time ios advanced data, i usally turn it off to not load the data editor too many things slowly |
| 20:53.19 | eimtr | ok tyt |
| 20:53.37 | Monkalizer | i think she got reprimanded by her bosses for switching off their precious michel jackson |
| 20:53.53 | nooblark | mj is awesome |
| 20:54.02 | nooblark | i would sacrafice a kid for him, just not my own. |
| 20:54.18 | Monkalizer | right... |
| 20:54.40 | eimtr | i have one mj at work.. |
| 20:55.04 | nooblark | need NA tester, 3 minutes! |
| 20:55.15 | Monkalizer | is that/she/he/what nice? |
| 21:05.16 | nooblark | tesssssttttteeeerrrr |
| 21:05.21 | nooblark | 2 mintuess |
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| 21:08.15 | nooblark | thunder!! |
| 21:08.21 | nooblark | NA or EU? :O |
| 21:08.23 | ThunderLord | !!!! |
| 21:08.25 | ThunderLord | NA! |
| 21:08.28 | nooblark | help me |
| 21:08.30 | nooblark | 2 minutes |
| 21:08.31 | nooblark | test |
| 21:08.32 | nooblark | max |
| 21:08.34 | nooblark | plllllllllease |
| 21:08.37 | ThunderLord | text max? |
| 21:08.43 | nooblark | 2 minutes max |
| 21:08.45 | nooblark | to test |
| 21:08.45 | ThunderLord | oh |
| 21:08.46 | ThunderLord | alright |
| 21:08.48 | ThunderLord | yeah |
| 21:08.50 | ThunderLord | gimme 2 min? |
| 21:08.52 | nooblark | nooblark # 886 |
| 21:08.54 | nooblark | yah |
| 21:14.07 | ThunderLord | sry almost ready, 1 more min |
| 21:14.39 | nooblark | honestly, you taking this long is still quicker than me finding someone else. lol |
| 21:18.01 | ThunderLord | okay |
| 21:18.02 | ThunderLord | im ready |
| 21:18.04 | ThunderLord | lets do it |
| 21:18.09 | nooblark | nooblark #886 |
| 21:23.18 | nooblark | dustin, let me know if you want me to help test |
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| 21:31.18 | Dustin|Home | sooo one of the last patches by blizzard broke my bank shit |
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| 21:32.46 | nooblark | lol |
| 21:33.09 | nooblark | they helped encrypt them better |
| 21:33.11 | Dustin|Home | what changed then? lol |
| 21:33.27 | nooblark | meh |
| 21:33.31 | Dustin|Home | did they say how to fix broken banks |
| 21:33.34 | nooblark | was your bank encrypted in any way? |
| 21:33.35 | Ahli | what did they alter? |
| 21:33.50 | nooblark | they added a :signature" |
| 21:33.54 | Dustin|Home | it used the signature generated by the game |
| 21:34.00 | nooblark | which means you can't just open it notepad and edit it |
| 21:34.02 | Ahli | oh god, the PoE download speed is terrible :D I only want to patch it |
| 21:34.06 | Dustin|Home | They added that back in beta |
| 21:34.22 | nooblark | because the signature inside the file is an encyrption of all the values. and if those values don't match, the bank does not work |
| 21:35.00 | Dustin|Home | Ya i know, I wrote a program that took the data and generated the signature |
| 21:35.20 | Dustin|Home | So I could use the ingame encryption for my BanktoSQL program |
| 21:36.18 | Ahli | oh lol, people can spoof their battle.net handle to get admin rights in maps... good that I won't add admin tools into my map |
| 21:36.31 | Dustin|Home | Noob |
| 21:36.33 | Dustin|Home | Gonan remake |
| 21:36.40 | Dustin|Home | some random got commander :P |
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| 21:37.00 | mille25 | evening. |
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| 22:18.35 | iMisu | OMG I hate this people |
| 22:18.49 | nooblark | who |
| 22:19.07 | Kubi | These people |
| 22:19.09 | Kubi | I see how it is |
| 22:19.21 | nooblark | kubi |
| 22:19.23 | nooblark | test |
| 22:19.23 | nooblark | nw |
| 22:19.25 | nooblark | now* |
| 22:19.26 | Kubi | fucjk |
| 22:19.27 | Kubi | kfine |
| 22:20.34 | Kubi | HOW DOES HE KNOW MY SC ID |
| 22:20.51 | tordy | wassup people |
| 22:25.02 | Kubi | nooblark that was a really short timer |
| 22:25.03 | Ahli | Kubi, bnet profile? your published map that has a bank? |
| 22:25.16 | Kubi | WAIT wut |
| 22:25.19 | Kubi | the fuck did you just say |
| 22:25.27 | Ahli | "HOW DOES HE KNOW MY SC ID" |
| 22:25.31 | Kubi | ya |
| 22:25.58 | Ahli | bnet profile & bank of your published map, both give away your bnet ID |
| 22:26.25 | Kubi | yeah I know however i have neither exposed |
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| 22:26.48 | Kubi | so glad that I can map in hots editor and still publish in WoL |
| 22:26.54 | Kubi | as long as I keep hots dependencies out |
| 22:27.02 | nooblark | kubi read party |
| 22:27.04 | nooblark | i explained |
| 22:27.12 | Kubi | k |
| 22:30.18 | nooblark | thisis going to be a noob question/ |
| 22:30.34 | nooblark | i have variables as local ones, they do reset each time that trigger is called, right? |
| 22:30.41 | nooblark | if not, that explains a lot. lol |
| 22:31.32 | Kubi | local |
| 22:31.33 | Kubi | yes |
| 22:31.49 | Kubi | if u call a trigger and have int = 1 |
| 22:31.52 | Kubi | then you change it to 2 |
| 22:31.57 | Kubi | and call the trigger again it will be 1 |
| 22:32.13 | Kubi | In the same trigger |
| 22:32.19 | Kubi | if you understand |
| 22:32.19 | nooblark | ok |
| 22:32.23 | nooblark | i do |
| 22:32.39 | Kubi | global will save the change 2 |
| 22:32.42 | nooblark | yah |
| 22:32.48 | nooblark | thats what i thought |
| 22:33.25 | Kubi | Come a long way for custom mapping |
| 22:33.30 | Kubi | The only rts to have custom modding |
| 22:33.33 | Kubi | was like Age of Empires 2 |
| 22:33.41 | Kubi | everything else is just mapping only |
| 22:33.54 | nooblark | i think the double vote is from the same issue i had before |
| 22:33.58 | nooblark | with clicking last second. |
| 22:34.15 | nooblark | but i changed the order of stuff, so you don't need to click last second. |
| 22:34.16 | Kubi | Why am I reading this AMA on reddit |
| 22:34.18 | Kubi | WAYYYYYYYYY |
| 22:34.26 | nooblark | if i turn a trigger off |
| 22:34.55 | nooblark | if the first action in a trigger is to turn it off, it will continue to execute, but be unable to be called on, right |
| 22:34.56 | nooblark | ? |
| 22:35.23 | Exaken | yup |
| 22:35.45 | Ahli | I guess... BUT the other trigger threads could have been started already. disabling a trigger will only stop it from creating more threads |
| 22:36.06 | nooblark | okay how about we start from the beginning. |
| 22:36.08 | Kubi | Ahli, I'm going to disable your thread. |
| 22:36.11 | tordy | good evening |
| 22:36.26 | nooblark | i have two things that will start this trigger, clicking a dialog (to vote), or if the timer goes to zero |
| 22:36.32 | Ahli | if I remember it correctly. I might be wrong with this, though |
| 22:36.52 | nooblark | how can i make it so that both won't execute on top of eachother, thus resulting in double vote |
| 22:37.59 | nooblark | afk a sec |
| 22:38.39 | Ahli | use a boolean that determines that you started it |
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| 22:42.20 | iMisu | NOT DOUBLE VOTING NOOOOOOOO |
| 22:43.48 | nooblark | yah ahli i always wanted to do that |
| 22:43.48 | nooblark | but |
| 22:43.59 | nooblark | the timer expiring MUST activate the trigger |
| 22:44.24 | nooblark | if someone selects dialog before timer expires and the boolean is still false, it won't run. |
| 22:44.26 | nooblark | but... |
| 22:44.28 | Ahli | then set the vote to start the timer with 0.1 second |
| 22:44.43 | nooblark | i can do a while loop |
| 22:45.01 | nooblark | and as long as timer > 0 sec, if someone click dialog, do actions. |
| 22:45.18 | nooblark | i thnk that will work |
| 22:45.38 | nooblark | i'll even give it like .5 to make sure the code executes |
| 22:45.41 | Ahli | if you have multiple votes and recycle the dialog items, it might fail ^^ |
| 22:47.03 | nooblark | i have multiple votes, but i do not recycle the itmes :P |
| 22:56.20 | nooblark | i feel as though i'm a total idiot for putting this in a while loop lol |
| 22:56.24 | nooblark | i dont want it to loop |
| 23:10.13 | A1win | hmmh... any ideas what would be the best way of giving a status bar for a unit that looks like a progress bar but shows the unit's health, and allow switching between displaying the health bar and the progress bar? :x |
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| 23:10.36 | A1win | basically I want it to show health bar when it can be damaged, and the progress bar when it can be repaired... mmh |
| 23:10.51 | A1win | except that it can also be repaired when it can be damaged, so maybe I shouldn't do that after all <.< |
| 23:11.24 | A1win | yeah nevermind |
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| 23:23.44 | QueenG | Someone is selling their laptop in my area: Intel i3-3110M, 6RAM, win7 1TB space and free legit copy of Office 2007 for only $300. Is this a good cheap laptop? |
| 23:27.04 | Ahli | you are missing info about graphic card |
| 23:27.45 | Kubi | usually the graphics card seals the deal |
| 23:27.58 | Kubi | UNLESS your just using it to browse the internet |
| 23:28.00 | Kubi | or movies |
| 23:28.14 | Kubi | but you'll need a good card to run movies anything higher than 720p |
| 23:30.01 | QueenG | back |
| 23:30.32 | QueenG | I agree, I do play sc2 but I am content with just low settings. |
| 23:30.53 | Ahli | I don't know how good that CPU is... from its ghz value it doesn't look super awesome, but I don't know the details of the extras that the new CPU generations have... |
| 23:30.59 | Ahli | and sc2 is mostly cpu |
| 23:32.05 | A1win | clock speed is only something like 2/3 of CPUs efficiency these days, iirc |
| 23:32.23 | A1win | the "extras" actually do useful stuff |
| 23:32.54 | Ahli | well, the extras are normally things that improve multi-threaded programs |
| 23:33.07 | QueenG | I currently own intel core duo since 2009, 2GB ram and windows vista. Spending just $300 for that I was wondering if it would be worth it. |
| 23:33.51 | QueenG | http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i3/Intel-Core%20i3-3110M%20(BGA)%20Mobile%20processor.html <-- this is the cpu, it states something about hyperthreading. Does that help out when playing SC2 somewhat? |
| 23:33.58 | A1win | it's not just about multithreading Ahli |
| 23:34.32 | Vindicator | if you're a serious mapmaker you want an i5 minimum i7 max. i have an i7 laptop and it annoys me still |
| 23:34.43 | Vindicator | i3 is like the economy line of processors |
| 23:34.46 | QueenG | I guess my question is: is this a good small upgrade from my current laptop I own. Whats funny is I spend over $750.00 on my old one. |
| 23:35.14 | Vindicator | now if ur not going to do much mapping on it, then ur fine either way, i mean it's a good price |
| 23:35.17 | A1win | I don't think it's of much use to try to understand what the "extras" of a CPU do, you'd be better off comparing the CPU to other CPUs and see which are the best ones and how their performance is in scale with each other |
| 23:35.31 | Vindicator | anyway i'd talk more but i gotta go unfortuantely :( cya |
| 23:35.59 | QueenG | yea Vindicator I agree, but compared to other i3 laptops selling via newegg or amazon, they cost at least 4 to $500 with only 2RAM. I am getting 6RAM and lots of space (I dont care about space really). |
| 23:36.08 | QueenG | thanks Vindicator though |
| 23:36.25 | QueenG | oh okay A1win |
| 23:36.50 | A1win | there are sites that display stats of different PC components |
| 23:36.58 | Ahli | my laptop has 4gig of ram and I disabled the harddisc cache... I think I got the ram space message once on it only :D |
| 23:37.02 | A1win | I mean, test results |
| 23:37.33 | A1win | 4 GB is more than enough if you're not doing something specific that requires a lot of memory |
| 23:37.38 | Ahli | also, heat is interesting for a laptop, too. my one could make scrambled eggs or boil water, if needed |
| 23:37.50 | A1win | like video editing or such |
| 23:38.00 | A1win | can't think of other examples ;p |
| 23:38.03 | QueenG | I am starting to do map editing, you mentioned CPU is the main important one. Does the extra ram help while going through the map editor/ |
| 23:38.08 | QueenG | map editor?* |
| 23:38.10 | A1win | no |
| 23:38.39 | QueenG | oh I see |
| 23:38.40 | A1win | it's never going to use that much |
| 23:39.07 | A1win | with more ram, you can basically run a lot of programs at the same time (though they do use CPU too) |
| 23:39.26 | A1win | ...unless they're idle |
| 23:39.36 | A1win | but anyway ;p |
| 23:39.58 | A1win | for SC2, cpu will probably be the biggest bottleneck, right after graphics card |
| 23:39.59 | QueenG | oh okay that makes more sense now. I do like to have lots of tabs and programs open at the same time but I dont think ill need total 6GB RAM |
| 23:40.26 | A1win | mm I have 4 GB on my PC and I've never used it all up |
| 23:40.35 | Ahli | map editor will use like 1 gig of ram max |
| 23:40.48 | QueenG | I guess theres not even any graphics card for it. Just Intel Integrated ones. So this is probably not good upgrade for map editing then |
| 23:40.51 | A1win | oh wait ACTUALLY |
| 23:40.55 | A1win | oops |
| 23:40.57 | A1win | capslock |
| 23:41.10 | A1win | if you play minecraft, more ram might be useful :P |
| 23:41.48 | Ahli | 882 mb of RAM used with all modules except overview opened in my map |
| 23:41.51 | A1win | (but that's also bottlenecked by cpu) |
| 23:41.52 | Ahli | in the editor |
| 23:42.01 | Exaken | my editor uses 150mb ram atm with triggers and data open, not really much |
| 23:42.13 | Ahli | trigger only in my map are 340mb :D |
| 23:42.38 | QueenG | hah I used to play Minecraft a lot, I had my own server and everything. I made a big battlecruiser |
| 23:43.02 | A1win | browsers do use quite a lot of memory, something like 1 GB usually (more with more tabs open) |
| 23:43.17 | A1win | but anyway |
| 23:43.28 | A1win | 4 is just fine, 6 can sometimes be useful |
| 23:43.48 | QueenG | just trying to find a better laptop while using the Galaxy editor. Even though this is a good cheap laptop, I think id would be better to find a different one. Another thing that sucks is that I am always mobile so I have to go with Laptop than a desktop. |
| 23:44.21 | QueenG | I just dont like it when opening Data it crashes like 25% of the time and I get (not responding) for a couple secs just switching through stuff. |
| 23:45.02 | A1win | it'll probably do that with any computer though |
| 23:45.02 | Ahli | I guess the data editor is reading from harddisc? |
| 23:45.18 | A1win | I have an SSD and it's still slow sometimes |
| 23:45.30 | A1win | ...though my cpu is not that great |
| 23:45.31 | QueenG | i think it just my crappy laptop that I have atm. |
| 23:45.42 | Ahli | disable the object explorer (bottom left panel with links) |
| 23:45.42 | A1win | well, not the crashing part |
| 23:45.51 | Ahli | and restart the editor, that will speed it up |
| 23:45.59 | Dustin|Home | anyone run into this problem, I have a unit that gets a behavior, when the behavior is on it tells this actor to create itself, (It's a shield) But the units selection range gets boosts a bunch when the actor is created |
| 23:46.22 | Ahli | yes |
| 23:46.34 | Ahli | disable hit test flag |
| 23:46.38 | Ahli | in the attachment thing |
| 23:46.44 | QueenG | yea I keep just "Show Default Value" and the object explorer is off. |
| 23:46.44 | Ahli | *thing = actor |
| 23:46.50 | Dustin|Home | I thought I did |
| 23:46.53 | Dustin|Home | Let me try again |
| 23:47.17 | Ahli | ok, PoE time |
| 23:47.33 | Ahli | if I can make it run properly on win8 |
| 23:47.39 | Dustin|Home | ya I disable 'Allow hit Test' on the actor flag |
| 23:47.47 | QueenG | I wish someone could make a Galaxy Editor Editor where you can select different pieces of the editor and place them on a window like: health, size, player own, name, id. |
| 23:48.12 | QueenG | alright cool thanks everyone |
| 23:48.46 | Dustin|Home | Nice, hit test worked |
| 23:48.57 | Dustin|Home | guess I jumped the gun on asking :P |
| 23:49.03 | Ahli | that's how I do my hitboxes for my monsters |
| 23:49.55 | Ahli | but if you use actors for hitboxes instead of the unit actor, there is a bug with changing the owner.. the actor's hitzone only works with the owner the actor was created for |
| 23:50.09 | Dustin|Home | Weird |
| 23:50.27 | Ahli | (in case you do that, you can fix it with timers, states to recreate the actor) |
| 23:50.59 | Ahli | somewhere on mapster I attached or linked an example map with that... gl finding it :D |
