| 00:00.24 | Daara | yes |
| 00:00.29 | Ahli | http://de.twitch.tv/speeddemosarchivesda/new |
| 00:00.34 | Daara | i found the thread that has the map |
| 00:00.37 | Daara | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/project-workplace/3347-wc3-hero-unit-library/ |
| 00:00.49 | Daara | it has a leveling passive aura |
| 00:01.41 | Daara | that game was awsome ahli |
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| 00:20.51 | Ahli | they swim below water levels :S |
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| 00:22.00 | Daara | now i remember why i hate steam |
| 00:22.09 | Daara | whenever it downloads anything it rapes my computer |
| 00:22.52 | ckSynergy | speaking of heros and such...lol |
| 00:23.14 | ckSynergy | does anyone have the formulas or know where to find such for exp division? |
| 00:25.11 | Daara | you mean experience division between multiple heroes when they are nearby when a unit dies? |
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| 00:26.01 | ckSynergy | yes |
| 00:26.30 | ckSynergy | see, I've been looking and studying the veterancy behavior, and Im just hoping to save some time, but regardless Im coming up with some interesting results |
| 00:26.43 | Daara | i'm not sure how it works |
| 00:26.47 | Daara | but if you find out let me know ^^ |
| 00:27.03 | ckSynergy | Well, I can give you some details |
| 00:27.30 | ckSynergy | If I unit does not have a veterancy behavior, it uses the settings in the "gameplay" data tab |
| 00:27.40 | ckSynergy | which controls the radius and who it shares to |
| 00:27.48 | ckSynergy | the division is also rather interesting there |
| 00:28.09 | ckSynergy | I'll give you my actual tests units so its easier to understand |
| 00:28.16 | ckSynergy | Lets say a unit gives 18 experience |
| 00:28.20 | ckSynergy | upon death |
| 00:28.49 | ckSynergy | now, I have 2 baneling heros, and 1 hydralisk hero (all 3 blonging to me, but I dont think that matters as long as their allied) |
| 00:29.23 | ckSynergy | now, if all 3 units are in range when the enemy unit dies, the banelings will gain 4.5 exp each |
| 00:29.27 | ckSynergy | and the hydra will gain 9 |
| 00:29.36 | ckSynergy | why, I dont know, but thats how the default works |
| 00:29.41 | Daara | lol |
| 00:30.12 | ckSynergy | now, in the actual veterancy behavior, you can duplicate the defaults by setting the "kills" experience fraction to 0 |
| 00:30.26 | ckSynergy | this will not keep the units from gaining experience, but rather defaults to the above values |
| 00:30.36 | ckSynergy | if they are the ones doing the killing |
| 00:31.13 | ckSynergy | now, if the kills value for experience fraction is NOT 0, it changes the actual given value |
| 00:31.26 | ckSynergy | So, lets say the fraction is 1, the unit will get 18 experience |
| 00:31.36 | Daara | what do the other 2 get? |
| 00:31.37 | ckSynergy | and the nearby allies will get none |
| 00:31.42 | Daara | oh |
| 00:31.42 | ckSynergy | NOW |
| 00:31.43 | Daara | lame |
| 00:31.45 | ckSynergy | hold on |
| 00:32.01 | ckSynergy | from my tests, the share filters do jack crap |
| 00:32.05 | ckSynergy | BUT |
| 00:32.27 | ckSynergy | at the bottom, the shared radius and shared fraction do take effect IF the kills value is NON-ZERO |
| 00:32.57 | ckSynergy | So, if we set the kills fraction to 1, and the shared radius to 10, and the shared fraction: kills amount to 1 |
| 00:33.13 | ckSynergy | when the unit with the veterancy kills a unit, it will split it equally with nearby allies |
| 00:33.28 | Daara | so each will get 6? |
| 00:33.34 | ckSynergy | so, in that case, will experience fraction 1, share fraction 1, and share radius 10, then the hydra, and both banelings get 6 exp each |
| 00:33.37 | ckSynergy | (18/3) |
| 00:34.01 | Daara | kills fraction 1, shared radius 10 and shared fraction 1? |
| 00:34.05 | ckSynergy | yes |
| 00:34.12 | Daara | that will evently distribute it? |
| 00:34.19 | ckSynergy | yes |
| 00:34.23 | ckSynergy | 100% evenly |
| 00:34.27 | Daara | say a unit that doesn't have veterancy kdeals damage but doesn't get the kill? |
| 00:34.34 | Daara | er |
| 00:34.36 | ckSynergy | its still 18/3 |
| 00:34.39 | Daara | k |
| 00:34.41 | ckSynergy | wait |
| 00:34.49 | ckSynergy | actually, let me verify that real quick |
| 00:35.01 | Daara | i think you get experience if you're just in the radius |
| 00:35.16 | Daara | of the dying unit |
| 00:35.22 | ckSynergy | yes, but the amount of experience can change drastically |
| 00:35.33 | ckSynergy | if you notice, the first scenario gave 4.5, 4.5 and 9 |
| 00:35.42 | ckSynergy | in the second, 6 6 6 |
| 00:35.47 | ckSynergy | oh, heres another thing |
| 00:35.54 | ckSynergy | in the first scenario |
| 00:36.07 | ckSynergy | if you have one baneling (out of 2) and the hydra go kill the unit |
| 00:36.21 | ckSynergy | this is where it gets interesting |
| 00:36.56 | ckSynergy | ok here we go |
| 00:37.14 | ckSynergy | dang it I wish this was skype so I could erase lol |
| 00:38.11 | ckSynergy | ok, so if a unit does NOT have a veterancy, or its veterancy kills exp fraction is 0, the experience is divided oddly depending on the number of unit types of that unit on the map, and then split between any others |
| 00:38.14 | ckSynergy | the fraction is odd |
| 00:38.36 | ckSynergy | so, I take 12 zerglings (no veterancy value), and send them to kill the 18 exp unit, with my 3 heros nearby |
| 00:38.47 | ckSynergy | the exp gain is 10.5 to each ling, and 15 to the hydra |
| 00:39.05 | ckSynergy | same thing, but with 1 ling and 1 hydra in exp range: 15 to the ling, 21 to the hydra |
| 00:39.23 | ckSynergy | 2 lings, no hydra: 18 exp each |
| 00:39.27 | ckSynergy | 1 ling: 36 exp |
| 00:39.37 | ckSynergy | 1 hydra (no lings): 36 exp |
| 00:40.10 | Daara | sounds confusing lol |
| 00:40.36 | ckSynergy | a bit lol |
| 00:40.48 | ckSynergy | I mean really, you just have to play around with it |
| 00:41.36 | ckSynergy | I think, if the killing unit has no veterancy (or the exp kills frac is 0), then the formula is something like |
| 00:42.33 | ckSynergy | (exp given * Number of unit types) * number of unit type in range / number of units |
| 00:42.39 | ckSynergy | or something funky like that |
| 00:43.01 | ckSynergy | but if the kills value is 1, and the share value is 1, it takes the total amount and just divides it evenly |
| 00:43.37 | Daara | alright |
| 00:43.39 | Daara | i'll remember that |
| 00:43.41 | Daara | thanks :D |
| 00:43.58 | ckSynergy | dude, I couldnt even remember that lol |
| 00:44.04 | Daara | going to go eat then watch Alabama spank Notre Dame |
| 00:44.14 | ckSynergy | later man lol |
| 00:51.45 | iMisu | how can i make a trigger that shows the whole map... |
| 00:51.51 | iMisu | for ALL players |
| 00:53.23 | Ahli | create map revealers? |
| 00:53.50 | iMisu | I just want the whole map revealed at the launch of the game |
| 00:54.42 | iMisu | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:54.46 | iMisu | nvm found it :D |
| 01:03.14 | Daara | reveal entire map |
| 01:03.15 | Daara | :P |
| 01:08.58 | Daara | i can't see the poly count in the editor Zolden, but it has 29k vertices ^^ |
| 01:12.11 | Zolden | your castle? |
| 01:13.08 | Zolden | it would have 2-3k if you'd use normal map to keep details, and would look the same, or even better, because normal contain much smaller details |
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| 03:00.43 | Ahli | well, I think it's time to release my sockets and gems update to hots beta |
| 03:09.19 | Ahli | was otixza's name otixza? |
| 03:09.25 | Ahli | or how do you spell it |
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| 03:11.12 | yaksmanofage | Hey everybody, Do any of you know where that tutorial for changed unit color scemes is and/or how to change color schemes? |
| 03:11.21 | Ahli | ~seen Otixza |
| 03:11.24 | purl | i haven't seen 'otixza', Ahli |
| 03:11.35 | yaksmanofage | changed->changing* |
| 03:11.44 | Ahli | ~seen Otixa |
| 03:11.44 | purl | otixa is currently on #sc2mapster (1d 5h 50m 49s). Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 10h 50m 24s, last said: 'gaaaaaaaaaaaay'. |
| 03:11.54 | Otixa | dafuq you want? >:C |
| 03:12.45 | Ahli | just your correct spelling for credits |
| 03:12.55 | Ahli | because I update the map on hots now |
| 03:13.11 | Otixa | ah |
| 03:13.20 | Ahli | with potions models, bug fixes and gems, sockets |
| 03:13.22 | Otixa | I got a deadline in 10 hours ;p |
| 03:13.38 | Otixa | after that, can maybe make some more graphics for your shit |
| 03:14.51 | Ahli | I will gladly use things for my sh*t, if they are better than what I use currently. |
| 03:15.29 | Ahli | *currently use |
| 03:15.41 | Ahli | correct? |
| 03:18.09 | Otixa | both are correct |
| 03:23.59 | Ahli | really? |
| 03:24.52 | Ahli | yaksmanofage: color scheme? unit's texture? |
| 03:25.14 | Otixa | I hate documentation >=[ |
| 03:30.29 | Otixa | 600 words to go ;\ |
| 03:45.20 | yaksmanofage | Oh hey, sorry I found it |
| 03:45.48 | yaksmanofage | Texture Select By ID |
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| 04:11.19 | Otixa | kill me >;/ |
| 04:13.48 | FritzVonUemlauet | Ahli, so I also can't change the model for mienrals it seems. |
| 04:14.00 | FritzVonUemlauet | Maybe resources are protected in some way, I can change the model for watchtowers |
| 04:14.14 | Ahli | mineral fields have a model change in their actor events with ultra shaders |
| 04:16.54 | Ahli | rich vespene geysers are swapping their model in their actor events, too |
| 04:18.44 | FritzVonUemlauet | Oh yeah wow |
| 04:18.46 | FritzVonUemlauet | you're right |
| 04:18.49 | FritzVonUemlauet | you're a lifesaver |
| 04:20.27 | FritzVonUemlauet | damn, that was easy, jimmy |
| 04:20.33 | Ahli | ^^ |
| 04:24.21 | FritzVonUemlauet | Ahli, deine Deutsche augen sind sehr süß |
| 04:41.53 | Ahli | so, D3 will receive a patch in near future... |
| 04:51.20 | Otixa | will they make it not suck? ;p |
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| 05:20.53 | Otixa | hits Ahli |
| 05:31.04 | FritzVonUemlauet | Ahli, you save me. |
| 05:31.16 | FritzVonUemlauet | I owe you all the jews I find hidden. |
| 05:43.11 | Otixa | You better turn yourself in then :P |
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| 11:57.05 | Dogmai | ~seen blizz-deletarius |
| 11:57.09 | purl | blizz-deletarius <d8940048@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.148.0.72> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 4d 11h 57s ago, saying: 'try and find out :)'. |
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| 12:11.23 | purl | Zolden: i haven't seen 'jesus christ' |
| 12:11.40 | Zolden | because u're a robot |
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| 14:09.29 | Dustin|Work | Morning gentlemen. |
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| 14:14.43 | Zolden | morning gentleman dustin |
| 14:31.15 | Dustin|Work | Poor Dogmai - Australia's heatwave off the scale, the Bureau of Meteorology forced to add new colour to charts as "dome of heat" pushes 51C (123.8F) |
| 14:31.27 | Dustin|Work | He's probably sooo hot |
| 14:33.15 | Dogmai | Nope |
| 14:33.19 | Dogmai | Cause I am on the west coast |
| 14:33.22 | Dogmai | Where this is a normal summer |
| 14:33.25 | Dogmai | Those dumb fucks deserve it |
| 14:33.36 | Dogmai | Each winter our government burns off bush |
| 14:33.42 | Dogmai | Which means we dont have fires |
| 14:33.48 | Dogmai | The eastern states deserve everything they get |
| 14:33.52 | Dogmai | They bitch about a 40*C day |
| 14:33.54 | Dogmai | That is normal here |
| 14:34.10 | Dogmai | You know why the canberra fires were the biggest in history? |
| 14:34.16 | Dogmai | Because they didnt burn off the bush for over 100 years |
| 14:34.20 | Dogmai | 100 fucken years of fuel on the ground |
| 14:34.22 | Dogmai | they deserve it |
| 14:34.34 | Dogmai | you cant burn what is already burnt |
| 14:34.41 | Dogmai | there is no fuel around my city for fires |
| 14:34.53 | Dogmai | we lay our train tracks on 40*C days |
| 14:34.58 | Dogmai | so that they can withstand the heat |
| 14:35.03 | Dogmai | they get a 40*C day |
| 14:35.09 | Dustin|Work | lol |
| 14:35.10 | Dogmai | and their train tracks buckle |
| 14:35.12 | Dogmai | no comment |
| 14:35.23 | Dogmai | its stupid governments |
| 14:35.30 | Dogmai | we are basically seperate countries |
| 14:35.47 | Dustin|Work | So there's not one big government that reigns over all of australia? |
| 14:35.48 | Dogmai | we have 10% of the people but make 90% of the money for the country |
| 14:35.50 | Dogmai | we should break off |
| 14:35.54 | Dogmai | there is |
| 14:35.58 | Dogmai | but it has very little say in anything |
| 14:36.02 | Dustin|Work | ahh |
| 14:36.04 | Dogmai | taxes |
| 14:36.06 | Dogmai | basically |
| 14:36.13 | Dogmai | cause after WW1 |
| 14:36.17 | Dogmai | we were meant to break up again |
| 14:36.25 | Dogmai | and become independent countries |
| 14:36.27 | Dogmai | but we never did |
| 14:37.20 | Dustin|Work | ahh |
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| 15:06.54 | mille25 | hey |
| 15:07.44 | Dustin|Work | hi |
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| 15:12.57 | tordy | wassup |
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| 15:58.08 | Dogmai | there was an item for sale for 3m |
| 15:58.10 | Dogmai | in d3 |
| 15:58.14 | Dogmai | i bit 12m |
| 15:58.18 | Dogmai | said under min bid |
| 15:58.21 | Dogmai | refresh the page |
| 15:58.24 | Dogmai | still at 3m |
| 15:58.26 | Dogmai | bid again |
| 15:58.28 | Dogmai | under min bid |
| 15:58.29 | Dogmai | refresh the page |
| 15:58.32 | Dogmai | still at 3 mill |
| 15:58.36 | Dogmai | bid again |
| 15:58.40 | Dogmai | under min bid |
| 15:58.40 | Dogmai | expired |
| 15:58.42 | Dogmai | fml |
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| 16:25.43 | Ice4smaster | Good afternoon! =) |
| 16:25.55 | Ice4smaster | Hows going? |
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| 16:30.08 | Ice4smaster | i'm working on a simple ability, but some things dont wanna work |
| 16:31.08 | Ice4smaster | Basicly waht i tring to do, grab Maar Psi Shockwave, but make it work only in a cone, 120 degree, the direction the unit faces |
| 16:31.46 | Ice4smaster | visuality is there, and it do the blast, but does that in 360 even though i set the search to 120 degree |
| 16:32.39 | Ice4smaster | any guess where else i gotta poke this bugger to work in a strictly 120 degree, in the direction the unit faces? XD |
| 16:33.25 | Zolden | maybe validators? |
| 16:33.56 | Zolden | i remember, there was a validator checking angle between caster's face vector and vector from caster to target |
| 16:34.32 | Ice4smaster | what that validator called? |
| 16:34.44 | Zolden | don't remember |
| 16:34.49 | Zolden | check their list |
| 16:34.59 | Zolden | i think u'll recognize it by name |
| 16:36.25 | Ice4smaster | i poped in some words to try search they all failed |
| 16:38.33 | Ice4smaster | lets see raynor |
| 16:40.23 | Ice4smaster | okey |
| 16:41.27 | Ice4smaster | lets try this, they used 13x the presistance |
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| 16:50.10 | Exaken | Where can I see the id of pre-placed units"? |
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| 16:54.52 | Ahli | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8faFVKLRQs |
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| 16:58.07 | Taintedwisp | I AM ASHAMED OF AMERICA RIGHT NOW |
| 16:58.08 | Taintedwisp | !!!! |
| 16:58.09 | Taintedwisp | ASHAMED |
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| 16:58.40 | Taintedwisp | The largest start explosion ever recorded happens in the shape of a giant penis... and no one is commenting or laughing about it.. |
| 16:58.58 | Exaken | wut? |
| 16:59.00 | Taintedwisp | http://news.yahoo.com/monster-black-hole-burp-surprises-scientists-214933195.html |
| 16:59.55 | Taintedwisp | i am truely, dissapointed... |
| 17:02.49 | Dustin|Work | About blackhole spitup? |
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| 17:09.50 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 17:10.09 | Taintedwisp | Blackholes suckin space dick... i dunno SOMETHING THOUGH.. |
| 17:10.53 | ErikI | Does anyone know a way to check if a string can be converted to a real? |
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| 17:11.27 | ErikI | "0#aX1%" can not be converted to a real obviously |
| 17:11.42 | ErikI | But "15" can be converted |
| 17:12.05 | Dogmai | loop |
| 17:12.25 | Dogmai | loop through the characters, of the string amount, if character != number then fail |
| 17:12.30 | Dogmai | @ ErikI |
| 17:12.37 | Dustin|Work | ^ |
| 17:12.39 | ErikI | Yeah, I considered that |
| 17:12.51 | Dustin|Work | Yeah just write a simple Is_Numeric() function |
| 17:12.54 | ErikI | I guess I'll have to check if it's "." as well for decimals |
| 17:13.03 | Dogmai | no |
| 17:13.10 | Dogmai | integers dont use decimals |
| 17:13.21 | Dogmai | what if someone does 20....304 |
| 17:13.25 | ErikI | I know, I was talking abot reals |
| 17:13.35 | Dogmai | but reals dont need to be converted to real |
| 17:13.39 | ErikI | and that's why I was hoping for a better way, since 20....304 would be bad |
| 17:13.41 | Dogmai | reals are already really real |
| 17:13.57 | ErikI | But in my case, strings need to be converted to real |
| 17:13.58 | Dogmai | what are you trying to convert |
| 17:14.06 | ErikI | string to real |
| 17:14.14 | ErikI | not string to integer |
| 17:14.59 | Dogmai | what are you trying to convert |
| 17:15.57 | ErikI | I'm trying to convert a string to a real. If the string cant be converted, I want to do something else |
| 17:16.05 | ErikI | without displaying an error message |
| 17:16.10 | Dogmai | what are you trying to do |
| 17:16.14 | Dogmai | the entire thing |
| 17:16.20 | Dogmai | no one cares about stealing your ideas |
| 17:16.26 | Dogmai | there might be a better way to do it |
| 17:17.13 | ErikI | I'm not afraid of people stealing my ideas, I just thought you were asking specifically and not about the entire thing. I am switching between encryption methods |
| 17:17.52 | ErikI | Which means if I have a string encrypted with the new method, the string will be something weird like "0#xA%" |
| 17:17.59 | Dustin|Work | How does SC2 handle it now if you try to use String 2 Real and it's invalid? |
| 17:18.13 | ErikI | It displays an error message and ignores the action, I think. |
| 17:18.19 | Dogmai | indeed |
| 17:18.27 | Ahli | the stupid way, yes |
| 17:18.32 | Dogmai | you should use the already available encryption libaries |
| 17:18.36 | ErikI | I do |
| 17:18.56 | ErikI | But I dislike relying entirely on them |
| 17:19.03 | Dogmai | then use a hash lib as well |
| 17:19.06 | ErikI | I do |
| 17:19.15 | Dogmai | hash the encryption |
| 17:19.23 | Dogmai | then use your own encryption on the hash |
| 17:19.30 | ErikI | I do all of that already |
| 17:19.36 | ErikI | That's not the issue |
| 17:19.37 | Dogmai | then |
| 17:19.45 | Dogmai | that is not a problem |
| 17:19.52 | Ahli | hash library? |
| 17:19.53 | Dogmai | because if people edit the real value causing it to fail |
| 17:20.03 | Dogmai | it will fail the hash |
| 17:20.08 | Dogmai | and you stop it there and then |
| 17:20.21 | Dustin|Work | Ahli, a linked list |
| 17:20.24 | ErikI | The problem is not that I'm trying to make it more safe. The problem is that I'm trying to fix an overlap so people with old encryption can still play without losing their banks |
| 17:20.27 | Dogmai | what you can do |
| 17:20.41 | Dogmai | is convert real to string |
| 17:20.55 | ErikI | So if the old decryption method works, it'll use that one, otherwise it uses the new one |
| 17:20.56 | Dogmai | but get the length of the real number |
| 17:21.06 | Dogmai | and the length of the remainders? |
| 17:21.23 | Dogmai | then set your own numbers like XXYYaaaaaaaggggg |
| 17:21.38 | Dogmai | where XX is length of real, YY is length of remainer, aaa is real, ggg is remainer |
| 17:21.49 | ErikI | Are you suggesting ways to solve my problem or ways to increase the safety? |
| 17:21.50 | Dogmai | as XX and YY will never change |
| 17:21.57 | Dogmai | resolve |
| 17:21.58 | Ahli | if you need hots: http://de.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/166x2i/1_hots_betakey/ |
| 17:22.15 | Dogmai | I got hots beta keys -_- |
| 17:22.37 | Dogmai | that is one way to store a real as a string |
| 17:22.39 | Dogmai | and never have it fail |
| 17:22.47 | Dogmai | you could even put in another encryption |
| 17:22.53 | Dogmai | like XXYYZaaaagggggggg |
| 17:23.14 | ErikI | I think you're still failing to see the problem here. |
| 17:23.19 | ErikI | Imagine the string "00.f9uas{v6J*)=[-^" |
| 17:23.21 | Dogmai | that would be a first |
| 17:23.27 | Dogmai | indeed |
| 17:23.34 | Dogmai | an encrypted string |
| 17:23.40 | ErikI | Is that encrypted with my old or new encryption method? |
| 17:23.57 | Dogmai | encryption is encryption |
| 17:24.12 | Dogmai | it could be anything |
| 17:24.21 | ErikI | Exactly |
| 17:24.31 | Dogmai | so |
| 17:24.36 | Ahli | try one, check results, if unplausible, try other |
| 17:24.37 | Dogmai | what I would suggest you do in the future |
| 17:24.41 | ErikI | So what I do is that I first try the first decryption method to see if it gives something sensible |
| 17:24.47 | Dogmai | is mark your bank files |
| 17:24.49 | Dogmai | like I do |
| 17:24.55 | Dogmai | every generation is given a specific key |
| 17:24.58 | Dogmai | that way |
| 17:25.04 | Dogmai | you can tell which generation of bank file it is |
| 17:25.04 | Taintedwisp | Hey Dogmai hows tofus Popularity? |
| 17:25.08 | Dogmai | and if it needs to be converted |
| 17:25.11 | Dogmai | not sure, ive been playing diablo |
| 17:25.17 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 17:25.22 | Dogmai | Im taking time off |
| 17:25.27 | Taintedwisp | ahh |
| 17:25.27 | ErikI | Ahli, that's exactly what I want to do. |
| 17:25.29 | Dogmai | Cause I have to work all day, hard work |
| 17:25.33 | Dogmai | And its finished today |
| 17:26.06 | Dogmai | if you are storing a real value encrypted |
| 17:26.14 | Dogmai | why can you not retrieve that real value |
| 17:26.19 | Dogmai | why must it be stored as a string |
| 17:26.36 | ErikI | What should I store it as instead? |
| 17:26.41 | Dogmai | as a real |
| 17:26.55 | ErikI | It's harder to encrypt a real |
| 17:27.24 | Dogmai | well I just gave you a way to convert a real to an integer string |
| 17:27.28 | ErikI | Saving the generation is smart, I might do that in the future although it's not certain it'll help |
| 17:27.32 | Dogmai | if you wish not to encrypt a real |
| 17:27.46 | Dogmai | you should do it now |
| 17:27.51 | Dogmai | because if you only have two generations |
| 17:28.03 | Dogmai | then you can mark the new banks as 'converted' |
| 17:28.16 | Dogmai | that way, you know that only 1 type of bank will need to be converted |
| 17:28.50 | ErikI | Anyway, I'll just make a toStr function |
| 17:29.00 | ErikI | It's easy enough |
| 17:29.50 | Dogmai | no matter how strong your encryption is |
| 17:29.55 | Dogmai | it can and will be hacked |
| 17:30.03 | ErikI | Yeah |
| 17:30.15 | ErikI | I realized that after spending all that time on encryption |
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| 17:30.49 | ErikI | Would be nice with server side banks so I could at least store the encryption key on blizzard's servers, away from all the hackers snooping around in my source code |
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| 17:30.58 | Taintedwisp | Havent seen Deletarius since like last Wednesday, and that was the only day since the holidays i have seen him :( |
| 17:31.08 | Dogmai | He was meant to be in today -_- |
| 17:31.18 | Dogmai | I asked specifically so ... |
| 17:31.25 | Dogmai | I am not that loved T_T |
| 17:31.47 | Taintedwisp | Well Dogmai is is about that crunch time |
| 17:32.12 | Otixa | Éllo bitches |
| 17:32.22 | Taintedwisp | Hopefully blizzard wont be a bitch and just quit communicating after launch again |
| 17:32.58 | Ahli | after lotv launch they will... most likely |
| 17:33.10 | Taintedwisp | Hopefully not though... |
| 17:33.34 | Taintedwisp | after LoTV? you kidding me, at WoL day 2 there was nothing out of blizzard for 1 1/2 years hardly... |
| 17:33.43 | Taintedwisp | besides the occasional comment |
| 17:34.03 | Taintedwisp | if they do that shit again, the community will be finished |
| 17:36.14 | Otixa | Obviously PhD ^ |
| 17:37.14 | Taintedwisp | And what worries me is HoTS Beta is always barren, with about 100-200 people at any time... for an expansion beta, thats crap... Chances are this game is going to have very low sales if they dont do 3 things, 1. fix the arcade admit pop system was a fuckup, that we are NOT apples demographic that their marketplace isnt good enough for us, 2. Get rid of deathball, Infestor focused gameplay, and MMM focused only gameplay, and 3. |
| 17:37.27 | Taintedwisp | if they do those 3 things... then i will be VERY excited for this new game |
| 17:37.54 | Shawn|Rawr | 3 is nothing |
| 17:38.02 | Shawn|Rawr | they should do nothing? |
| 17:38.29 | Otixa | Bronze league heroes hoooooooooooo |
| 17:38.38 | Taintedwisp | 3 is one of the most important, To make a simple version of the editor... |
| 17:38.46 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 17:39.28 | Taintedwisp | Nah I actually like deathball, but lets be honest... its funny to watch these large ass unit masses... but theres nothing strategic about them :P |
| 17:39.41 | Otixa | simple version? |
| 17:39.57 | Taintedwisp | When masters and GMs are A-Moving to win... you know theres a problem |
| 17:40.13 | Taintedwisp | yeah a simple version... |
| 17:40.34 | Taintedwisp | something where someone doesnt have to worrie about attaching actors and such lol |
| 17:40.34 | Otixa | current one is complicated? ;o |
| 17:40.46 | Taintedwisp | To me? no, to new mappers... hell yeah |
| 17:40.58 | Ahli | simple version would only have the original units and you can change damage, life, shields, armor, unit costs and supply? |
| 17:41.12 | Ahli | well, cut supply, that's advanced with positive and negative |
| 17:41.13 | Otixa | I disagree |
| 17:41.15 | Taintedwisp | Simple version would be VERY similar to Wc3 editor |
| 17:41.29 | Ahli | that would be the scbw simple version |
| 17:41.29 | Otixa | What it need is an advanced version |
| 17:41.40 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 17:41.43 | Otixa | Where you get only an IDE |
| 17:41.52 | Otixa | And you can code non-shitty bullshit |
| 17:42.16 | Taintedwisp | everything i noted though was obvious :P so i hope blizz already knows them... if not... then they dont pay ANY attention lol |
| 17:42.35 | Taintedwisp | Your average Gamer who wants to create a map, doesnt know code..... |
| 17:42.36 | Taintedwisp | ]lol |
| 17:42.52 | Taintedwisp | Making a TD should take about 15 hours if your NEW... |
| 17:42.56 | Taintedwisp | not weeks... |
| 17:43.35 | Ahli | make cliff, give units to be able to build photon cannons to the player, create units and order them to move through the cliff... done |
| 17:43.38 | Taintedwisp | I know everyone else is sick of TDs, but.... I love TDS but not the Sc2 ones, they seem a bit lazy, well the majority |
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| 17:44.17 | Taintedwisp | I miss the ones based off DBZ, or Simpsons and every tower was a custom model :P |
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| 17:53.12 | Taintedwisp | I guess I should get up... |
| 17:53.24 | Taintedwisp | been laying in bed putting job applications in for the past 3 hours lol |
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| 20:28.35 | Ahli | knock knock |
| 20:32.35 | Exaken | Who's there? |
| 20:34.37 | Ahli | an hallucinated probe... whoosh |
| 20:34.50 | Ahli | *a |
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| 21:12.32 | Zolden | fuck everything |
| 21:17.43 | Dustin|Work | Zolden |
| 21:17.47 | Dustin|Work | Agreed |
| 21:17.57 | Dustin|Work | It's Tuesday im all FuckItIt'sFriday.jpg |
| 21:18.16 | Zolden | :) |
| 21:18.30 | Zolden | visit your boss |
| 21:18.45 | Zolden | get on the table |
| 21:18.50 | Zolden | get naked |
| 21:18.54 | Zolden | start shitting |
| 21:21.39 | Zolden | if he start to show indignancy, just put your indexfinger to his lips and say "shhhhh" |
| 21:22.02 | Zolden | no, say "shhhhhh, it's ok, it's ok" |
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| 22:17.59 | ckSynergy | can I get someone to look over a trigger for me real quick? |
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| 22:38.23 | Ahli | what should I do when I detect a possible dupe? |
| 22:40.17 | Ahli | removing might be to much as dupes could appear legitimately ingame. They only appear when they are loaded by 2 players, though. |
| 22:42.09 | Zolden | are dupes possible? |
| 22:43.42 | Exaken | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/player-zone/map-suggestions-requests/47304-behaviors-veterancy-test-dont-work/ wut? |
| 22:44.44 | Ahli | backup bank, play game with friend, give friend item, put your old bank there, play with friend and get item back |
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| 22:48.22 | ckSynergy | anyone alive? |
| 22:48.34 | Ahli | I can check ID, defenseBaseMod and the item's hash code which is unique for the ingame generated items and saved. All other stats might have a chance to change for an item |
| 22:49.55 | Ahli | I think I will disable all usage with that item and mark it as a possible dupe ingame. That will restrict duping with people you are playing with... |
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| 23:02.57 | Zolden | right |
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| 23:38.58 | Dogmai | ~seen blizz-deletarius |
| 23:39.06 | purl | blizz-deletarius <d8940048@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.148.0.72> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 4d 22h 42m 54s ago, saying: 'try and find out :)'. |
| 23:39.41 | Zolden | ~seen antichrist |
| 23:39.42 | purl | Zolden: i haven't seen 'antichrist' |
| 23:39.50 | Zolden | because u're a robot |
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