| 00:02.12 | Ahli | it's "knocking" the whole time... I guess I will have a hard time sleeping tonight |
| 00:02.37 | Taintedwisp | WTFH IS A JALOUSIES!!!!! |
| 00:05.46 | Ahli | well, it's a roll that has 2 ropes attached. These ropes have a lot of pieces attached. It's used to keep sunlight outside |
| 00:06.11 | Zolden | just tell it, "hey, buddy, if you gonna nock, i'll shoot you adn give your body to my cat, but if you'll be quiet, you can have some crumbles of my cheesburger and watch me mapping" |
| 00:06.44 | Ahli | I have no cat |
| 00:06.58 | Zolden | just tell it, cat is a magic world for them |
| 00:07.49 | Zolden | but, jhe probably smell you have no cat, they have a damn good sense of smell, and it's better not to lie to a bird |
| 00:08.20 | Zolden | hitler once lied to a bird and look what he become |
| 00:08.42 | Ahli | I suspect that it tries to dig a hole into the room where it is warm... |
| 00:08.43 | Zolden | he said "one day i'll conquer the whole europe" |
| 00:09.28 | Taintedwisp | sooo ahli they are blinds...http://www.blinds.com/images/cta_graphics/product_8578.jpg |
| 00:09.48 | Zolden | just dl some bird danger chirping and play it, the bird will get sscared and fly away |
| 00:10.04 | Ahli | yes, but they are bigger, more heavy and outside |
| 00:10.24 | Zolden | you think you americans can call things with a freaky names and the whole world will repeat? |
| 00:10.36 | Zolden | football is football, not the soccer |
| 00:10.47 | Zolden | and santta claus is motherfucking ded moroz |
| 00:10.54 | Ahli | jalousie sounds french |
| 00:11.33 | Zolden | jalousie sound like a cigarettes |
| 00:13.08 | Ahli | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_blind it's something like that |
| 00:14.34 | Taintedwisp | lool |
| 00:20.18 | Ahli | I can't find images of the bird-killer version I got here... modern ones all look like they can easily destroyed |
| 00:22.35 | Ahli | how long does it take for a bird to fall asleep because it's exhausted? |
| 00:22.51 | Taintedwisp | birds never stfu |
| 00:22.52 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 00:23.15 | Ahli | it's not singing, it's pushing and knocking |
| 00:24.42 | Taintedwisp | Then go unroll iT and let them out |
| 00:25.19 | Ahli | it's unrolled |
| 00:25.27 | Zolden | u sure it's a bird? it may be a rat |
| 00:25.50 | Zolden | or even a monster of unknown spcie, mayb e an alien |
| 00:27.03 | Zolden | or it may even be you, Ahli, someone )prorbably evil_ may have shrinked you and sent you to the past |
| 00:27.07 | Ahli | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Tit I suspec its one of these because I saw them flying there earlier today |
| 00:27.43 | Zolden | tit like boob? |
| 00:28.29 | Taintedwisp | so ahli has great titties in his blinds... |
| 00:28.30 | Taintedwisp | lol] |
| 00:29.56 | Ahli | true story |
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| 00:43.00 | Ahli | well, at least gems are working now with all of their effects... |
| 00:51.00 | Zolden | implement pvp in your game to humiliate blizz :) |
| 01:02.10 | Ahli | I planned to do that :D |
| 01:04.56 | Ahli | I don't think that pvp would require a lot of work... basically it's just adding a pvp mode, an arena dungeon, some UI stuff, maybe some rules for item usage, tweak to the death function and making players be able to hover the mouse over enemy heroes with actors somehow... |
| 01:06.02 | Zolden | and ability to shit on enemy' body would be appreciated |
| 01:06.12 | Zolden | I can make you a shit model |
| 01:06.40 | Ahli | that's not my style |
| 01:07.14 | Zolden | ok, if it will one day become your style, just tell me |
| 01:08.31 | Zolden | ok, time to ragequit |
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| 06:26.18 | MasterWrath | Anybody in here good at SC2Layout? |
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| 10:47.56 | zenxu | http://imgur.com/8YiyG |
| 10:47.59 | zenxu | americaaaaa |
| 10:48.00 | zenxu | fuck yea |
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| 10:58.25 | zenxu | WHATS UP ZOLDDOG |
| 11:01.39 | Zolden | hey |
| 11:02.19 | Zolden | up is that I'm curious about Ahli's bird |
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| 11:04.34 | zenxu | whats his bird like? |
| 11:05.08 | Zolden | like big tits |
| 11:05.52 | zenxu | mmm so round and big and something like that |
| 11:07.23 | Zolden | it's strange, but it has a peak and wings, and yellow сруыб фтв ишкв ефшд - умукнерштп ф тщкьфд ишкв рфыб иге цшлшзувшф сфдды ше ишп ешеы |
| 11:07.29 | Zolden | fuck |
| 11:08.04 | Zolden | i don't remember what i wrote to repeat |
| 11:08.05 | zenxu | lol |
| 11:08.20 | Zolden | the idea is that wikipedia referres it as big tits |
| 11:08.54 | Zolden | but it's still look like a bird u expect to see whaen you hear "bird" |
| 11:09.03 | zenxu | I wana see a picture now |
| 11:09.08 | Zolden | ok |
| 11:09.30 | Zolden | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Tit |
| 11:09.47 | zenxu | lol great tit :D |
| 11:10.08 | zenxu | atleast it has a cool name |
| 11:10.13 | Zolden | нуф |
| 11:10.14 | Zolden | yea |
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| 11:31.07 | Zolden | cmon, Bibendus show us what you modelled |
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| 11:34.57 | Zolden | Ahli: how's the bird? |
| 11:35.57 | Ahli | feather rain |
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| 11:36.45 | Dogmai | ~seen blizz-deletarius |
| 11:36.50 | purl | blizz-deletarius <446d5d39@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.109.93.57> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3d 17h 46m 10s ago, saying: 'Just seeing what everyone is up to'. |
| 11:36.50 | Dogmai | ~seen blizz-artestru |
| 11:36.50 | purl | blizz-artestru <d8940048@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.148.0.72> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 15d 13h 51m 22s ago, saying: 'target sorting with a weapon'. |
| 11:37.16 | Ahli | but there were feathers yesterday, too... so I suppose that it found the way out after dawn. |
| 11:40.27 | Zolden | or joined the emptyness of afterlife |
| 11:41.01 | zenxu | you should go rub your head to the tits |
| 11:42.03 | zenxu | on the GREAT TITS |
| 11:42.06 | zenxu | get it? ahahhaa |
| 11:43.45 | Zolden | :)) |
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| 12:18.48 | Dogmai | whos been playing tofu |
| 12:19.09 | Dogmai | someones been playing tofu, cause i haven't logged in for near a week and its on the list with more ratings |
| 12:19.09 | zenxu | well thats pretty esy to check from bnet? |
| 12:19.11 | Dogmai | o_O |
| 12:19.28 | Dogmai | how so |
| 12:19.38 | zenxu | if its popular = many people play it |
| 12:19.40 | zenxu | if its not |
| 12:19.43 | zenxu | not many people play it |
| 12:19.44 | zenxu | :D |
| 12:19.51 | Dogmai | I wanted to actually know who |
| 12:20.05 | zenxu | you should leave your stalker life behind |
| 12:21.11 | zenxu | someone played magic rpg on hots beta |
| 12:21.15 | Dogmai | Do you guys wanna vote for a competition for a model of mine? |
| 12:21.21 | zenxu | how nice of him to state stuf that is not actually true... |
| 12:21.24 | zenxu | makes me furious |
| 12:21.34 | zenxu | like "you cannot skip cinematics" |
| 12:21.39 | zenxu | says on LOADING SCREEN |
| 12:21.41 | zenxu | SKIP WITH TAB |
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| 12:21.59 | Ahli | ESC would be more natural |
| 12:22.01 | zenxu | I admit its not toally obvious |
| 12:22.04 | zenxu | I know |
| 12:22.18 | zenxu | but I use tab cause it puts ESC on main menu on test document |
| 12:22.21 | zenxu | weir :E |
| 12:22.38 | Dogmai | zenxu |
| 12:22.40 | Dogmai | u got facebook |
| 12:22.42 | zenxu | but the point was it was anoying |
| 12:22.42 | Dogmai | go vote |
| 12:22.50 | zenxu | I have, but I dont really use it |
| 12:22.58 | Dogmai | good, can u vote for me |
| 12:23.04 | zenxu | for what?= |
| 12:23.15 | Dogmai | the model who did the videos for tofu |
| 12:23.23 | Dogmai | which we haven't shown yet |
| 12:23.35 | Dogmai | is in a competition to win a trip to taipei |
| 12:23.44 | Dogmai | shes coming first atm, but needs more votes |
| 12:24.01 | zenxu | Im not really getting what you are talking about :D |
| 12:24.06 | zenxu | what video? |
| 12:24.17 | Dogmai | we haven't released the new video yet |
| 12:24.19 | Dogmai | -_- |
| 12:24.22 | Dogmai | but its cool :D |
| 12:24.50 | Dogmai | the new trailer |
| 12:24.53 | Dogmai | for tofu |
| 12:25.44 | zenxu | :/ |
| 12:25.55 | Dogmai | pretty please |
| 12:25.57 | Dogmai | shes pretty :D |
| 12:26.11 | zenxu | I still dont know what the fuck Im even suppose to vote |
| 12:26.14 | zenxu | no link or anything |
| 12:26.26 | Dogmai | http://bit.ly/ZaEdXK |
| 12:26.41 | Dogmai | btw im playing magic rpg o_O |
| 12:27.14 | zenxu | if you want I can upload new version on hots too |
| 12:27.30 | zenxu | since nobody plays it there I dont even bother updating if people dont ask for it |
| 12:27.30 | Dogmai | im just playing it so i can give it 5 stars |
| 12:27.32 | Dogmai | -_- |
| 12:27.39 | zenxu | mighty kind of you :D |
| 12:27.41 | Dogmai | cant vote without playing |
| 12:27.50 | zenxu | dry played it too |
| 12:27.52 | Dogmai | trollolove |
| 12:27.54 | zenxu | but didnt rate |
| 12:27.57 | zenxu | so did dustin |
| 12:28.02 | zenxu | no support for community... |
| 12:28.02 | zenxu | :D |
| 12:28.03 | Ahli | you can quit in loading screen and make everyone wait 45 seconds |
| 12:28.07 | Ahli | annd then rate |
| 12:28.57 | zenxu | I greatly disslike thos "liking" things on facebook |
| 12:29.05 | zenxu | so sadly Im still not going to do it |
| 12:29.10 | zenxu | was just curious of what it was |
| 12:29.55 | Dogmai | meh |
| 12:29.58 | Dogmai | u can like |
| 12:29.59 | Dogmai | vote |
| 12:30.01 | Dogmai | and then dislike |
| 12:30.09 | Zolden | http://snag.gy/AYccP.jpg |
| 12:30.14 | Zolden | another ship |
| 12:30.25 | zenxu | sry not going to do it |
| 12:30.27 | zenxu | :( |
| 12:37.56 | zenxu | another fucking thing that anoys me |
| 12:38.06 | zenxu | that teachers of my school wont answer the phone |
| 12:38.22 | zenxu | so pissed that I cannot get my school stuff together since it seems to be impossible to contact them |
| 12:39.26 | zenxu | Dogmai: you know my map is page 2 on EU |
| 12:39.29 | zenxu | Im so awesome |
| 12:39.30 | zenxu | :E |
| 12:39.42 | zenxu | I would normally promote myself to ducky |
| 12:39.46 | zenxu | but he aint around :( |
| 12:41.03 | zenxu | it does seem btw that only way your map gets "popular" |
| 12:41.10 | zenxu | is to get to up&coming |
| 12:41.25 | zenxu | my map was on like page 5-6 before that |
| 12:41.35 | zenxu | and it will most likely drop down again |
| 12:41.43 | zenxu | but still cool data |
| 12:44.36 | Dogmai | tofu was on page 1 |
| 12:44.41 | Dogmai | at the top after 1 game |
| 12:44.49 | Dogmai | but thats on hots |
| 12:44.51 | Dogmai | :D |
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| 12:45.13 | Dogmai | now that ive played it |
| 12:45.19 | Dogmai | i can say, its not my type of rpg |
| 12:45.22 | Dogmai | but ill still rate it |
| 12:48.41 | zenxu | doing RPGs feels like a big waste of time in a way |
| 12:49.03 | zenxu | I would like to make the perfect RPG (well to my standards and skills as perfect as I can make it) |
| 12:49.07 | zenxu | but it takes too long |
| 12:50.27 | zenxu | so dunno if Im gona finish my map |
| 12:50.33 | zenxu | Ill just do same as last time |
| 12:50.41 | zenxu | take a break and probly feel motivated at somepoint again |
| 12:51.08 | Dogmai | Even tofu is nearing too much work for two devs |
| 12:51.16 | Dogmai | its doable, but you really need a team behind you |
| 12:51.19 | Ahli | but you are always making awesome skills zenx |
| 12:51.24 | Dogmai | to keep motivated, to share the workload |
| 12:51.38 | Dogmai | RPGs are a whole another story |
| 12:51.50 | Ahli | team? what? |
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| 12:52.14 | zenxu | RPG is kinda only thing that fits me I think |
| 12:52.20 | zenxu | I only make those weird spells |
| 12:52.27 | zenxu | so now I can make spells for bosses and heroes |
| 12:52.29 | zenxu | ^^ |
| 12:55.35 | Dogmai | Neither dry nor I opened tofu for the holidays |
| 12:55.38 | Dogmai | it was good to get a break |
| 12:55.49 | Dogmai | just burning out |
| 12:56.53 | zenxu | I dont even feel like fixing bugs atm -_- |
| 12:57.00 | zenxu | my game is quite full of them |
| 13:00.30 | Dogmai | yeah we dont have those |
| 13:01.10 | Dogmai | cause im a mofo flyswat |
| 13:01.25 | Dogmai | some of the biggest problems we had during development |
| 13:01.31 | Dogmai | literally came from a misspelling of something |
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| 13:03.53 | zenxu | I had funny development |
| 13:03.57 | zenxu | you watched my videos? |
| 13:04.09 | Dogmai | no |
| 13:04.12 | zenxu | it has probly costed quite bit that didnt do any proper development |
| 13:04.13 | Dogmai | cause they not sexy |
| 13:04.16 | Dogmai | like rodrigos |
| 13:04.32 | zenxu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciaO87faQyI |
| 13:04.45 | zenxu | my rpg still has some same monsters and spells from that |
| 13:05.38 | zenxu | it probly would have been just fine to make a simple game without story and such |
| 13:05.46 | zenxu | people like those too apparently |
| 13:05.55 | zenxu | like the psychoMCs defence |
| 13:06.02 | zenxu | i think its garbage |
| 13:06.04 | zenxu | but they like it |
| 13:07.03 | zenxu | there was this too |
| 13:07.04 | zenxu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I0AujYC3L0 |
| 13:07.12 | zenxu | I wanted to have spells you could combine |
| 13:07.16 | zenxu | and you still can |
| 13:07.25 | zenxu | its pretty gimicky mechanic |
| 13:08.20 | zenxu | mmm |
| 13:08.23 | zenxu | now that I look at those |
| 13:08.29 | zenxu | why didnt I just make a simple map :D |
| 13:08.37 | zenxu | makes me wana make one |
| 13:10.05 | zenxu | I would like to see more hero defence maps on sc2 |
| 13:10.17 | zenxu | I even used to play those hero siege maps on wc3 |
| 13:10.27 | zenxu | they were really simple, but somehow enjoyable :/ |
| 13:12.25 | Dogmai | i went from the boring video you sent me |
| 13:12.29 | Dogmai | to minnesotaburns |
| 13:12.32 | Dogmai | FTW |
| 13:12.41 | zenxu | I think those were pretty cool |
| 13:12.42 | zenxu | :( |
| 13:12.56 | Dogmai | after being with dry for 2 years |
| 13:13.05 | Dogmai | the bar is high |
| 13:13.23 | zenxu | oh dont start with that :D |
| 13:13.41 | zenxu | first take over squadronTD then you can brag |
| 13:13.53 | Dogmai | squad td is shit |
| 13:14.01 | Dogmai | same shit my brother use to play in wc3 after i retired |
| 13:14.09 | Dogmai | its like why i dont play dota |
| 13:14.11 | zenxu | its not that shit |
| 13:14.13 | Dogmai | ive been playing that shit for 10 years |
| 13:14.19 | Dogmai | its hasn't changed |
| 13:14.37 | zenxu | peopel like same stuff |
| 13:14.43 | zenxu | I think it was fun for a while |
| 13:14.50 | zenxu | but its amazing how much they play it |
| 13:15.12 | zenxu | there aint that much variety to it |
| 13:15.48 | Dogmai | im too tired |
| 13:15.50 | Dogmai | and too old |
| 13:15.53 | Dogmai | to play that game |
| 13:16.00 | Dogmai | my legs hurt hey |
| 13:16.04 | Dogmai | i dont know why |
| 13:16.09 | Dogmai | i spent an entire day angle grinding |
| 13:16.14 | Dogmai | you would think my arms would hurt |
| 13:16.20 | Dogmai | not my legs -_- |
| 13:16.39 | Dogmai | i bought a 9" angle grinder |
| 13:16.42 | Dogmai | fucken thing kicked |
| 13:16.47 | Dogmai | ended up over my head |
| 13:16.53 | Dogmai | from down near my knees |
| 13:17.01 | Dogmai | decided to use the small 4" one instead |
| 13:17.06 | Dogmai | even though it took longer |
| 13:17.20 | Dogmai | really nasty machines |
| 13:17.48 | zenxu | is it somekind of tool? |
| 13:17.57 | Dogmai | yea |
| 13:17.59 | Dogmai | ill get u a pi |
| 13:18.01 | Dogmai | pic |
| 13:18.33 | Dogmai | http://anyhire.com/data/img/000/000/138/small/angle_grinder__300_x_300_2.jpg |
| 13:18.40 | Dogmai | thats the one i bought |
| 13:18.45 | zenxu | yea |
| 13:18.52 | Dogmai | its got more power than my huge ass mitre saw |
| 13:18.53 | zenxu | thats "hiomakone" |
| 13:19.31 | Dogmai | that is a really big machine btw |
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| 14:16.12 | Taintedwisp | Hey dogmai, hows tofu going? gettin any popularity? |
| 14:16.27 | Ahli | man... I hate it if a dialog item is not invalid, but can't be altered either... |
| 14:16.30 | Dogmai | i haven't logged on |
| 14:16.38 | Dogmai | i logged on today, its got more votes |
| 14:16.41 | Dogmai | so it must be getting played |
| 14:16.49 | Dogmai | but i haven't touched it for the last 2 weeks |
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| 14:17.47 | Dogmai | im hosting a game now |
| 14:17.49 | Dogmai | if anyone wants in |
| 14:19.19 | Taintedwisp | ill join |
| 14:19.34 | zenxu | on where? |
| 14:19.41 | Dogmai | hots |
| 14:19.58 | zenxu | there are no players there |
| 14:20.04 | Taintedwisp | :P: |
| 14:20.07 | Taintedwisp | Meh |
| 14:20.08 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 14:20.13 | Dogmai | yea |
| 14:20.20 | Dogmai | I gotta have a talk to Blizzard about that one |
| 14:20.34 | Dogmai | Because I have noticed that the main player base of Hots is merely Melee players |
| 14:20.47 | Taintedwisp | < that guy is Yeah |
| 14:20.52 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 14:20.54 | zenxu | and how is your talking gona change that :E |
| 14:21.02 | Taintedwisp | thats because Melee is the only thing thats changed haha |
| 14:21.11 | Taintedwisp | Our maps are not HoTS maps for the most part |
| 14:21.30 | Taintedwisp | I will convert EvoFrenzy to one eventually but.... rigth now |
| 14:21.37 | Ahli | my map doesn't use hots dependencies, but I can't downgrade it anymore to 1.5.3 |
| 14:21.38 | Dogmai | Well |
| 14:21.49 | Dogmai | I need to get stuff out of my head |
| 14:21.54 | Dogmai | I've been thinking too much |
| 14:22.00 | Dogmai | About how Battle.net can improve |
| 14:22.05 | Dogmai | And Diablo III in particular |
| 14:22.15 | Dogmai | I started writing last night and before I knew it, I was over 10 pages |
| 14:22.19 | Dogmai | For just D3 |
| 14:22.22 | Taintedwisp | You know Blizzard is fucked right? on HoTS, just looking at the beta and the forums, not many people seems too overly excited about HoTS |
| 14:22.32 | Zolden | G0A: another ship http://snag.gy/TbPQ1.jpg |
| 14:22.46 | zenxu | well d3 is broken game so I see no point in improving d3 bnet |
| 14:23.23 | Taintedwisp | I already Bought HoTS though, but still I think that If they dont do it right, then they will 100% loose their Community support |
| 14:23.43 | zenxu | I still hanvet bought hots |
| 14:23.43 | Taintedwisp | Because all 3 games are starting to dislike what blizz has done recently |
| 14:23.49 | zenxu | I might wait out and see how it goes |
| 14:23.51 | Taintedwisp | I bought HoTS and GTA V |
| 14:24.01 | zenxu | or I might buy it.....but I change my opinion on that constantly |
| 14:24.24 | Taintedwisp | Zenxu, You already have the first :P |
| 14:24.35 | zenxu | first? |
| 14:24.37 | Taintedwisp | And Ahli thats because the editor is still telling the map its on a higher version |
| 14:24.47 | Dogmai | tainted |
| 14:24.48 | Dogmai | u be action |
| 14:24.48 | Taintedwisp | WoL :P thats the first game |
| 14:24.51 | Dogmai | ? |
| 14:24.56 | Exaken | I be action |
| 14:25.00 | Dogmai | u be action\ |
| 14:25.02 | Exaken | :P |
| 14:25.02 | Dogmai | gotcha |
| 14:25.04 | Taintedwisp | Whos action |
| 14:25.12 | Taintedwisp | I be IShadowWolf |
| 14:25.26 | Dogmai | fockewulf has no straight brother |
| 14:25.28 | Dogmai | therefore |
| 14:25.30 | Dogmai | u gay brother |
| 14:25.35 | Dogmai | like him |
| 14:25.52 | Taintedwisp | Fockewulf is a little fag |
| 14:25.53 | Taintedwisp | He just bitches and mones and lies... |
| 14:26.00 | Zolden | Fockewulf is cool! |
| 14:26.01 | Taintedwisp | and has been called out for it, and then he pussied out when called on it |
| 14:26.08 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 14:26.42 | Dogmai | we need more people |
| 14:26.46 | Dogmai | for da tofuz |
| 14:26.50 | Dogmai | bland chinese food |
| 14:26.52 | Dogmai | NEED MRA |
| 14:26.54 | Dogmai | MOAR |
| 14:26.59 | Dustin|Work | Workin :( |
| 14:27.04 | Dogmai | dustin |
| 14:27.05 | Taintedwisp | Heres Fockewulf, "I made WW2 Diplo back in 2010 so I take priority over everyone and everything", "The Old Popularity system is all there is still on battle.net WE NEED OPEN GAMES LIST" |
| 14:27.08 | Dogmai | u always be working |
| 14:27.08 | Taintedwisp | Thats all he says... |
| 14:27.10 | Dogmai | its like |
| 14:27.12 | Dogmai | u never stop working |
| 14:27.14 | Dogmai | and like |
| 14:27.15 | zenxu | Ill come play if you get enough people |
| 14:27.16 | Dogmai | i never see a penny |
| 14:27.23 | Dogmai | we got 4 atm |
| 14:27.32 | Taintedwisp | Zenxu I am playing, So come on be coool |
| 14:27.38 | Taintedwisp | you know this is gunna be the cool peoples game |
| 14:27.42 | Dogmai | but we already said that wulf is gay |
| 14:27.46 | Dustin|Work | Ya, i work too much :( |
| 14:27.51 | Dogmai | the |
| 14:27.53 | Dogmai | more tired |
| 14:27.55 | Dogmai | i get |
| 14:27.57 | Dogmai | the more broken |
| 14:28.00 | Dogmai | my chinglish |
| 14:28.01 | Dogmai | becomes |
| 14:28.03 | Dogmai | la |
| 14:28.07 | Taintedwisp | Dont call Wulf my brotha though :( |
| 14:28.15 | Dogmai | i didnt call wulf ur brother |
| 14:28.18 | Dogmai | i called u wulf |
| 14:28.25 | Taintedwisp | Dont call me dat faggot |
| 14:28.33 | Dogmai | wulf y wulfy weulfy |
| 14:28.35 | Dogmai | come here wulfiy |
| 14:28.39 | Dogmai | i wuv u wufljy |
| 14:28.43 | Dogmai | fingers |
| 14:28.45 | Dogmai | so tired |
| 14:29.01 | Taintedwisp | Soooo my Data editor asked to be the Unofficial leader of my project :P... lol I laughed at him and told him no |
| 14:29.17 | Dogmai | yea |
| 14:29.25 | Dogmai | my data editor says that all the time |
| 14:29.30 | Dogmai | u gotta hit em with a rubber chicken |
| 14:29.36 | Dogmai | bad data editor |
| 14:29.38 | Dogmai | bad |
| 14:29.43 | Taintedwisp | I thought making heroes levelable was hard... .so I was giving him ample time... |
| 14:30.01 | Taintedwisp | Then one day I figured it out.... and... On that day I completed 2 times as many heroes he had in 1 month |
| 14:30.13 | Dogmai | i forgot to add in end conditions |
| 14:30.16 | Dogmai | so atm |
| 14:30.20 | Dogmai | everyone looses |
| 14:30.27 | Dogmai | best unintentional troll ever |
| 14:30.33 | Taintedwisp | His arguement is that I have WAY TOO MUCH info on http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/team-recruitment/46511-evo-frenzy-is-recruiting/ |
| 14:30.33 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 14:30.48 | Taintedwisp | I just tell people what they are getting into so they know from the start |
| 14:31.06 | Dogmai | i miss that girl |
| 14:31.07 | Dogmai | she was cool |
| 14:34.48 | zenxu | I SEE NO TOFU |
| 14:34.51 | zenxu | YOU WERE LYING |
| 14:34.58 | Exaken | already started:P |
| 14:34.59 | Dogmai | we playing |
| 14:35.03 | Dogmai | dual screens |
| 14:35.05 | Dogmai | ftw |
| 14:36.23 | Zolden | what "ftw" means? |
| 14:36.49 | zenxu | oh |
| 14:36.50 | zenxu | ffs |
| 14:36.59 | Dogmai | for the win |
| 14:37.04 | Dogmai | db |
| 14:37.37 | Dustin|Work | Damn, are we that old that the people forgot what FTW means?! |
| 14:37.53 | Zolden | what "for the win" means? |
| 14:38.17 | Zolden | i can't forget about ftw, because i never knew |
| 14:39.58 | Zolden | does "for the win" mean something like "I'm going to win" or "I will do everything to win"? |
| 14:40.06 | Dustin|Work | No |
| 14:40.09 | Dustin|Work | Its like Awesome |
| 14:40.16 | Zolden | oh, ty |
| 14:40.29 | Bibendus | i need a good free irc client :| |
| 14:40.37 | Dustin|Work | "Dude, you just whiped out his base with 2 zerglings, FTW! |
| 14:40.51 | Zolden | ye, got it |
| 14:41.03 | Zolden | Bibendus: i remember mirc |
| 14:41.10 | Bibendus | free |
| 14:41.13 | Bibendus | i hate to press ok everytime |
| 14:41.18 | Zolden | it's not free anymore? |
| 14:41.26 | Dustin|Work | It never been free |
| 14:41.28 | Bibendus | it should have the popup alert |
| 14:41.43 | Bibendus | zolden find me a russian crack |
| 14:41.44 | Bibendus | for mirc xD |
| 14:41.45 | Bibendus | lol |
| 14:41.56 | Bibendus | no rly |
| 14:42.04 | Bibendus | any free irc client? |
| 14:43.13 | Zolden | try this http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2901572 |
| 14:43.32 | Zolden | it says it isn't illegal, but has something to make it free |
| 14:44.36 | Dustin|Work | Bibendus, |
| 14:44.40 | Bibendus | y |
| 14:44.41 | Dustin|Work | I use hydraIRC at home now |
| 14:44.49 | Bibendus | i have the same |
| 14:44.59 | Bibendus | but dev stopped years ago |
| 14:45.08 | Zolden | try this then http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/6244567/ |
| 14:45.58 | Dustin|Work | I use Xchat at work |
| 14:46.04 | *** join/#sc2mapster Telshin (~textual@76.164.170.2) |
| 14:46.09 | Dustin|Work | I think they have it for Windows though too |
| 14:46.17 | Bibendus | how is xchat |
| 14:46.23 | Bibendus | aw |
| 14:46.24 | Dustin|Work | It gets the job done |
| 14:46.25 | Bibendus | the multithingy |
| 14:46.28 | Bibendus | i want a irc only |
| 14:46.28 | Bibendus | :D |
| 14:46.37 | Dustin|Work | Multi |
| 14:46.38 | Dustin|Work | ? |
| 14:46.46 | Bibendus | ah no ok |
| 14:46.47 | Bibendus | irc only |
| 14:46.48 | Dustin|Work | :P |
| 14:46.49 | Ahli | I use opera |
| 14:47.01 | Bibendus | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:47.02 | Bibendus | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:47.03 | Bibendus | ... |
| 14:47.14 | Bibendus | dev stopped too |
| 14:47.41 | Ahli | what if... the program is perfect already? |
| 14:48.31 | G0A | Bibendus use Opera:D |
| 14:48.36 | Bibendus | wut? |
| 14:48.49 | Bibendus | btw no program is perfect already |
| 14:48.54 | Bibendus | operative systems go on |
| 14:49.04 | Bibendus | all softwares need updates |
| 14:49.09 | Bibendus | or they die with time |
| 14:49.16 | Dogmai | i use chatzilla |
| 14:49.18 | Dogmai | its awesome |
| 14:49.39 | Bibendus | not by browser tx |
| 14:49.52 | Bibendus | they have to restart a lot due to flash |
| 14:50.38 | Zolden | it's japanese must use chatzille, while australians must use chatguroo |
| 14:53.55 | Bibendus | ... |
| 14:54.03 | Bibendus | ./ignore Zolden |
| 14:54.11 | Bibendus | :D |
| 14:55.35 | zenxu | americans must use chatdonalds then |
| 14:56.02 | Bibendus | lulz |
| 14:56.12 | Bibendus | that was actually better |
| 15:01.05 | zenxu | I feel like I wana play dota2 |
| 15:01.10 | zenxu | dont have acces yet thou |
| 15:01.17 | Bibendus | go to lol |
| 15:01.34 | zenxu | I already know how to play dota, so it could be cooler :/ |
| 15:02.23 | Bibendus | lol is similar |
| 15:02.26 | Bibendus | and its cooler |
| 15:02.31 | zenxu | why is it cooler? |
| 15:03.57 | Dustin|Work | zenxu, I have some extra Dota 2 keys, you want one? |
| 15:04.10 | zenxu | yea pls |
| 15:04.38 | zenxu | they apparently give out keys on reddit, so would be cool if I dont need to stalk for that |
| 15:04.53 | Dogmai | zexu |
| 15:04.55 | Dogmai | tofu? |
| 15:05.00 | Dustin|Work | whats ur steam id |
| 15:05.17 | zenxu | http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197986865195/ |
| 15:05.20 | zenxu | I wonder if its that |
| 15:05.25 | zenxu | Iv been trying to figure out |
| 15:05.38 | zenxu | my internet doesnt open any page, its just buggin out |
| 15:05.51 | Dustin|Work | Yeah go to your steam account settings and set an ID :P |
| 15:06.02 | zenxu | I tried |
| 15:06.05 | zenxu | it didnt do it yet? :( |
| 15:06.18 | Dustin|Work | not id your profile is a bunch of numbers :P |
| 15:06.24 | Dustin|Work | Unless that's how you set it up |
| 15:06.30 | zenxu | where do I even copy the number |
| 15:06.32 | zenxu | Dogmai: not now |
| 15:06.36 | Dustin|Work | http://steamcommunity.com/id/omfgDustin/ |
| 15:06.58 | zenxu | nnnooo steam dont bug out on me again :( |
| 15:07.53 | zenxu | gheez |
| 15:07.59 | zenxu | still cant figure out where I get my ID |
| 15:08.12 | Dustin|Work | its at the top |
| 15:08.16 | Dustin|Work | It gives you the whole url |
| 15:09.07 | zenxu | it gives me the number code if I use copy url |
| 15:09.13 | zenxu | I gues im still doing something wrong |
| 15:09.19 | Dustin|Work | hmm |
| 15:10.24 | Dustin|Work | are you using a browser or steam client? |
| 15:10.30 | zenxu | steam client |
| 15:10.47 | zenxu | it did give me my account page |
| 15:10.50 | zenxu | when I used that http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197986865195/ |
| 15:10.58 | zenxu | on browser |
| 15:11.39 | zenxu | dustin's dick :D |
| 15:11.41 | Dustin|Work | Yeahhh it's ike you havent setup an ID yet |
| 15:11.43 | Dustin|Work | :D |
| 15:12.08 | zenxu | pffff |
| 15:12.21 | zenxu | I think I just clicked that before, but do I need to setup some info |
| 15:12.25 | zenxu | it didnt really ask for anything |
| 15:12.45 | Dustin|Work | Click Community -> PRofile |
| 15:12.49 | Dogmai | zenxuuuuuu |
| 15:12.51 | Dogmai | this is valve |
| 15:12.56 | Dustin|Work | Then there's a line that let's you set the ID |
| 15:12.57 | Dogmai | u gotta hand over the rights to your first born son |
| 15:13.00 | Dogmai | in order to play on steam |
| 15:13.02 | Dogmai | come on |
| 15:13.04 | Dogmai | get it together mate |
| 15:14.23 | zenxu | thx man |
| 15:14.35 | Dustin|Work | np! Thanx for the coldroll lol |
| 15:14.39 | zenxu | ^^ |
| 15:14.56 | zenxu | super monday night combat is awesome |
| 15:15.06 | zenxu | shame it has so large patches and hardly any players :( |
| 15:15.30 | Dustin|Work | I need to try it again, havent played it since it first came out |
| 15:15.57 | zenxu | yea I havent played it for long time either |
| 15:16.02 | zenxu | just because it lacked players :/ |
| 15:17.53 | zenxu | whats dota 2 test |
| 15:17.59 | zenxu | do I need both dota and dota test? |
| 15:18.56 | zenxu | Dustin|Work: help! do I need both? :D |
| 15:19.21 | Dustin|Work | Test is like SC2 beta to SC2 |
| 15:19.32 | Dustin|Work | They just test shit there |
| 15:19.39 | zenxu | mm yea I dont need that then |
| 15:21.36 | zenxu | Btw I also noticed you played MM heroes |
| 15:21.42 | zenxu | I got stuck on 2nd quest lol |
| 15:22.02 | *** join/#sc2mapster ckSynergy (~ckSynergy@r74-192-50-68.vctrcmta01.vctatx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) |
| 15:22.09 | zenxu | wandered around like and hour before I had to google that there was indeed bug that wont allow you to pass the quest |
| 15:22.16 | zenxu | if you somehow manage to do that bug |
| 15:22.24 | zenxu | :( |
| 15:22.34 | ckSynergy | morning |
| 15:22.43 | zenxu | hello |
| 15:23.18 | ckSynergy | ummm, Im curious but is raven seeker missile broken in general? |
| 15:25.21 | Ahli | o0 now I totally broke my requirements checking functions o0 |
| 15:26.13 | Dustin|Work | Yeah I love Heroes of Might and Magic |
| 15:26.30 | Dustin|Work | I've only played the first campaign missions of the new one though |
| 15:26.35 | Dustin|Work | Need more time |
| 15:28.23 | zenxu | are there any new heroes at all in dota 2? |
| 15:29.25 | ckSynergy | Ok, I'm having an issue I cant seem to remedy. Raven seeker missiles dont turn. lol |
| 15:29.45 | ckSynergy | Heres the fun part: It's the native data |
| 15:32.45 | Dustin|Work | I think so zenxu |
| 15:33.18 | *** join/#sc2mapster Blizz-Deletarius (d8940048@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.148.0.72) |
| 15:33.44 | Blizz-Deletarius | morning everyone |
| 15:33.48 | Dogmai | morning |
| 15:33.51 | ckSynergy | awesome |
| 15:33.54 | ckSynergy | morning Blizz-Deletarius |
| 15:34.02 | Dogmai | I was hoping that you would be here first thing on your first day back |
| 15:34.07 | Dogmai | How does it feel, to be trapped with us again |
| 15:34.18 | Blizz-Deletarius | oh I was back at work yesterday ;) |
| 15:34.29 | Dogmai | Oh no you did not! |
| 15:34.33 | zenxu | mm |
| 15:34.36 | zenxu | yea |
| 15:34.40 | zenxu | WOT DELETARIUS |
| 15:34.42 | Dogmai | I think it was Tray that starts today then |
| 15:34.50 | Blizz-Deletarius | maybe |
| 15:34.52 | zenxu | welcome back |
| 15:34.57 | Blizz-Deletarius | thanks :) |
| 15:35.04 | Blizz-Deletarius | people are coming back in through the week |
| 15:35.20 | Blizz-Deletarius | so by the way, how have you guys been liking the new forum structure? |
| 15:35.22 | ckSynergy | did you have a good christmas/new years? |
| 15:35.34 | ckSynergy | erm, It threw me off initialy lol |
| 15:35.36 | zenxu | lol still havent used bnet forums |
| 15:35.42 | Dustin|Work | Oh hiii |
| 15:35.44 | Dogmai | It is good, it needs more stickies and organisation |
| 15:35.46 | Blizz-Deletarius | for the first half, then I got sick afterwards |
| 15:35.46 | zenxu | and I think I never will until major changes |
| 15:35.47 | Dogmai | But that can come with time |
| 15:35.51 | zenxu | like attaching youtube videos |
| 15:35.55 | ckSynergy | Yea, it's pretty good |
| 15:36.05 | Blizz-Deletarius | otherwise pretty good |
| 15:36.08 | Blizz-Deletarius | worked on some sculpting |
| 15:36.10 | ckSynergy | stil dont know where to post bugs though. There are 2 forums for bugs? lol |
| 15:36.14 | Blizz-Deletarius | painted my kitchen, etc |
| 15:36.17 | Blizz-Deletarius | ck |
| 15:36.19 | ckSynergy | O.o |
| 15:36.27 | Dogmai | I like scuplting |
| 15:36.31 | Dogmai | What where you making |
| 15:36.41 | ckSynergy | sounds... fun lol |
| 15:36.42 | Blizz-Deletarius | can't say |
| 15:36.50 | Dogmai | Oh come on |
| 15:36.52 | Blizz-Deletarius | cause I plan on posting it on my normal reddit account |
| 15:36.56 | Dogmai | You know what came to my mind now that you have said that |
| 15:36.59 | Dogmai | Naughty things |
| 15:37.03 | Dogmai | Very naughty things |
| 15:37.09 | *** join/#sc2mapster Parthon (~cheeeese@godsta.arach.net.au) |
| 15:37.17 | Dogmai | I sculpt monsters |
| 15:37.20 | Blizz-Deletarius | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/8126900/ ckSynergy |
| 15:37.23 | Blizz-Deletarius | that's the place |
| 15:37.28 | Dogmai | Out of clay, my draw is full of em |
| 15:37.29 | Blizz-Deletarius | I do as well |
| 15:37.42 | Blizz-Deletarius | it's the first time I've started actually sculpting in clay |
| 15:37.49 | Blizz-Deletarius | I've sculpted in zBrush for years |
| 15:37.54 | Dogmai | I also use this kind of like soft plasic stuff |
| 15:37.57 | Dogmai | plastic* |
| 15:38.08 | Blizz-Deletarius | I use Sculpey |
| 15:38.13 | Blizz-Deletarius | so that I can come back to it |
| 15:38.20 | Blizz-Deletarius | and it is still pliable |
| 15:38.22 | Dogmai | Different countries, different types of clay available |
| 15:38.25 | Blizz-Deletarius | right |
| 15:38.30 | Dogmai | Ah, I think thats like the plastic stuff I use |
| 15:38.30 | Blizz-Deletarius | it's a polymer clay |
| 15:38.34 | Dogmai | Thats it |
| 15:38.44 | Dogmai | I actually prefer the real clay |
| 15:38.47 | Blizz-Deletarius | I also made a twitter account |
| 15:38.48 | Dogmai | Like rock clay |
| 15:38.54 | zenxu | once artestru comes back you should go play magic rpg! :D |
| 15:38.57 | Dogmai | Cause I like getting wet and messy |
| 15:39.04 | Dogmai | Its a funny feeling on your fingers |
| 15:39.19 | Ahli | http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/6161068471#2 in case your company intends to alter the arcade, they might want to read how I would do it right now. |
| 15:39.21 | Blizz-Deletarius | eh, I'd rather be able to step away and come back with it being sculptable as well |
| 15:39.52 | Dogmai | This clay I use, you add water and it becomes sculptable again |
| 15:40.01 | Blizz-Deletarius | hmmm |
| 15:40.17 | Dogmai | I have a few different types of clay |
| 15:40.39 | Dogmai | That one is the best IMO, self drying river clay |
| 15:40.53 | Dogmai | That reminds me, next time I am at the river I can get free clay |
| 15:40.55 | Blizz-Deletarius | cool |
| 15:41.01 | Dogmai | Pity it smells like rotten eggs and is gray |
| 15:41.10 | Taintedwisp | Hey Deletarius Welcome back |
| 15:41.29 | Blizz-Deletarius | thanks tainted :) |
| 15:41.31 | Taintedwisp | Sorry about that Dogmai, I dropped my little brother off a school at 8 AM, and he didnt have any class.... |
| 15:41.37 | Dogmai | Guess what I got for christmas |
| 15:41.42 | Blizz-Deletarius | hmm? |
| 15:41.43 | Taintedwisp | Aids? |
| 15:41.51 | Zolden | lol |
| 15:42.05 | Dogmai | not funny tainted |
| 15:42.18 | Taintedwisp | yeah sorry.... you really got the herps |
| 15:42.21 | zenxu | lolol |
| 15:42.22 | Dogmai | -_- |
| 15:42.42 | Dogmai | gimme a sec |
| 15:42.44 | Dogmai | ill get a link |
| 15:42.48 | zenxu | glad that I can go play dota with dustin |
| 15:42.54 | zenxu | dont have to stand you guys anymore :D |
| 15:42.58 | zenxu | KIDING |
| 15:43.08 | ckSynergy | lol |
| 15:43.14 | Dogmai | http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--a2hGdhXtqQ/T6a7pouj6TI/AAAAAAAACMM/M7_NZpPEBsA/s1600/9467b.jpg |
| 15:43.32 | Blizz-Deletarius | what's that? |
| 15:43.36 | Dogmai | lego :D |
| 15:43.39 | Blizz-Deletarius | no I know |
| 15:43.41 | Blizz-Deletarius | but is it a set? |
| 15:43.43 | Taintedwisp | HE GOT A CHOOCHOO!!!! |
| 15:43.44 | Zolden | does it work? |
| 15:43.44 | Dogmai | yea |
| 15:43.50 | Dogmai | its one set |
| 15:43.53 | Blizz-Deletarius | what theme or what have you? |
| 15:43.53 | Dogmai | its so epic isnt it |
| 15:43.54 | Blizz-Deletarius | no I mean |
| 15:43.56 | Zolden | do they have engines? |
| 15:44.00 | Zolden | does plane fly? |
| 15:44.01 | Dogmai | monster hunters |
| 15:44.02 | Blizz-Deletarius | harry potter, pirates, halo, etc |
| 15:44.07 | Blizz-Deletarius | ah |
| 15:44.10 | Ahli | omg, they altered the ghost design |
| 15:44.12 | Dogmai | its a new set |
| 15:44.17 | Dogmai | its like all the old monster movies |
| 15:44.21 | Blizz-Deletarius | I'm partial to the city series |
| 15:44.28 | Taintedwisp | That will go great with his Tomas and friends set |
| 15:44.33 | Blizz-Deletarius | <-OG lego |
| 15:44.44 | Dogmai | vampire, ghost, Frankenstein, werewolf etc |
| 15:44.48 | Dogmai | OG ? |
| 15:44.48 | zenxu | KKK legos, nice! |
| 15:44.49 | Taintedwisp | < Flea market legos and Lincoln logs hahaah |
| 15:44.55 | Zolden | is there sc2 lego set? |
| 15:45.01 | Taintedwisp | Original Gangsta |
| 15:45.01 | Blizz-Deletarius | no |
| 15:45.03 | Blizz-Deletarius | megablocks |
| 15:45.05 | Dogmai | theres a sc2 megablocks set |
| 15:45.07 | Dogmai | whats OG |
| 15:45.14 | Blizz-Deletarius | original gangsta, as in, I go way back |
| 15:45.20 | Dogmai | omg |
| 15:45.24 | Dogmai | did I ever tell you |
| 15:45.25 | Dogmai | when i first got a job |
| 15:45.29 | Taintedwisp | Yeah thats what they were deletarius Megablocks. the mexicans at the flea market sale them by the 5 gal bucket haha |
| 15:45.29 | Dogmai | I had money (for the first time) |
| 15:45.34 | Dogmai | I went out and bought every single lego set |
| 15:45.39 | Dogmai | $2500 worth |
| 15:45.40 | Ahli | is megablocks some US thing? europe was and is ruled by lego |
| 15:45.53 | Blizz-Deletarius | it's just a competitor |
| 15:45.58 | Dogmai | I have the entire 2005 catalog of lego (except for city) |
| 15:45.58 | Blizz-Deletarius | sec |
| 15:46.08 | zenxu | megablocks SUCK |
| 15:46.16 | Blizz-Deletarius | http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2012/12/13/167055503/why-legos-are-so-expensive-and-so-popular |
| 15:46.25 | Blizz-Deletarius | watch/listen to that |
| 15:46.29 | Taintedwisp | Hey deletarius you workin right now? or did you just pop in? |
| 15:46.30 | Dogmai | by working, I meant disposable income and I was allowed to spend it |
| 15:46.37 | Blizz-Deletarius | working |
| 15:47.08 | Taintedwisp | kk In a bit, i wanna double check everything first, I might need some help troubleshooting an upgrade attribute system I made, its doing some VERY weird things |
| 15:47.08 | zenxu | btw |
| 15:47.14 | zenxu | is there anything exciting coming with hots? |
| 15:47.19 | Blizz-Deletarius | of course |
| 15:47.28 | zenxu | like is that the final UI |
| 15:47.30 | zenxu | cause it sucks :D |
| 15:47.36 | zenxu | meaning bnet |
| 15:47.37 | Blizz-Deletarius | why does it suck? |
| 15:47.52 | zenxu | oh do I really need to use my photoshop skills to explain :( |
| 15:47.52 | Dogmai | btw dele, thats not all |
| 15:47.55 | Dogmai | I got this one too! |
| 15:47.56 | Dogmai | http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/grogall/Technic/9396/d_9396_detail_2.jpeg |
| 15:47.57 | Blizz-Deletarius | yes |
| 15:47.59 | zenxu | LETS JUST SAY |
| 15:47.59 | Blizz-Deletarius | you do |
| 15:48.04 | zenxu | Ill just say it |
| 15:48.11 | Blizz-Deletarius | cool :) |
| 15:48.14 | zenxu | generally its bad to put like 3 buttons on one page |
| 15:48.17 | zenxu | huge waste of UI |
| 15:48.20 | Dogmai | You should see my lego collection one day |
| 15:48.21 | Blizz-Deletarius | nnnnnnnnnnnno? |
| 15:48.25 | zenxu | which bnet UI does a lot |
| 15:48.30 | *** join/#sc2mapster TheSkunk__ (~TheSkunk_@74-42-162-66.dsl2.nrwc.ny.frontiernet.net) |
| 15:48.36 | Dogmai | I have all the huge ferrari technic sets, with have doubled in worth since I bought them :) |
| 15:48.40 | Blizz-Deletarius | zenxu, even from a usability standpoint that doesn't make sense ;) |
| 15:48.44 | *** join/#sc2mapster duckies (53f1057d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.241.5.125) |
| 15:48.47 | zenxu | no it doesnt |
| 15:48.49 | zenxu | and |
| 15:48.52 | duckies | no it does! |
| 15:48.53 | Blizz-Deletarius | no I mean what you said |
| 15:48.57 | TheSkunk__ | Hello |
| 15:49.00 | duckies | :D |
| 15:49.03 | TheSkunk__ | Internet finally seems to have come back on |
| 15:49.07 | zenxu | why are the buttons placed in a way that if you make full chat, it blocks the button |
| 15:49.14 | Taintedwisp | GET OUT SKUNK NO ONE LOVES YOU!!!!!! |
| 15:49.15 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 15:49.15 | zenxu | wouldnt it make more sense to place buttons on the edges? |
| 15:49.18 | Taintedwisp | hey man hows it goin?> |
| 15:49.39 | Blizz-Deletarius | zen, you know you can resize the chat to be any size you want, right? |
| 15:49.44 | zenxu | I know |
| 15:49.47 | zenxu | but if I max it |
| 15:49.48 | zenxu | it blocks buttons |
| 15:50.03 | Blizz-Deletarius | if you max it, the intention is that chatting is the *only* thing that you want to do |
| 15:50.11 | Taintedwisp | Hahaha |
| 15:50.13 | zenxu | not really |
| 15:50.22 | Blizz-Deletarius | then why would you maximize the chat? |
| 15:50.29 | Taintedwisp | Yo zenx do like I do Open the Chat Resize it to about 50% of the screen and put it between the news feed and the buttons |
| 15:50.31 | zenxu | it feels more social |
| 15:50.32 | Taintedwisp | It works great there |
| 15:50.39 | Dogmai | You need a wider screen |
| 15:50.41 | zenxu | I like seeing what was going on |
| 15:50.43 | Dogmai | What format are you in |
| 15:50.54 | Taintedwisp | Maybe consider buying a new calculator? |
| 15:50.57 | zenxu | I dont wana have 10x10 chat window |
| 15:51.10 | zenxu | gheez I jsut cant believe you dont agree |
| 15:51.14 | zenxu | its obviosly bad :( |
| 15:51.15 | Blizz-Deletarius | weird, I always have my chat small |
| 15:51.31 | zenxu | resizing is not really the issue, but that button placement is stupid! |
| 15:51.37 | Blizz-Deletarius | if you say so |
| 15:51.37 | Dogmai | Btw Dele, that Lego podcast was really interesting |
| 15:51.37 | TheSkunk__ | Absolutely nobody loves me, tainted? I've been lied too all my life :( |
| 15:51.52 | Dogmai | I wish Blizzard signed with Lego and not Megablocks |
| 15:51.53 | duckies | Blizz-Deletarius, do you know by chance what "duration" field in "apply behavior" effect does? I thought it would alter behaviors duration, but it did no such thing (even with "use duration" checked in flags field) |
| 15:52.09 | zenxu | duckies: I RETURNED TO PAGE 2 |
| 15:52.10 | zenxu | MUAHAHHA |
| 15:52.27 | zenxu | you werent here to witness my great moment |
| 15:52.27 | duckies | p2 on EU? :D |
| 15:52.30 | zenxu | yes |
| 15:52.41 | duckies | what did you do? |
| 15:52.41 | zenxu | apparently people truly only play maps on up&coming |
| 15:52.50 | duckies | duuuh -.- :D |
| 15:52.55 | zenxu | it was on up and coming and it just came back |
| 15:52.57 | Ahli | duckies, I think that field worked for me :S |
| 15:53.10 | Blizz-Deletarius | Jaedong is playing custom games right now with Hero, Zenio, and another IIIIIIIIIIII |
| 15:53.21 | Blizz-Deletarius | on his stream |
| 15:53.24 | duckies | ahli, did your behavior have duration set bu default? |
| 15:53.26 | zenxu | link |
| 15:53.33 | Blizz-Deletarius | twitch.tv/egjd |
| 15:53.38 | zenxu | ty |
| 15:53.41 | Ahli | by default it was neverending |
| 15:53.46 | Blizz-Deletarius | dunno which custom it is |
| 15:53.48 | Taintedwisp | Okay deletarius, heres the bug, lol, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOlmEFC7OsA , Whats happening is when I use the upgrade(it currently has no cost, and its 3 upgrades on 1 research ability, the upgrades are VERY simple, they upgrade the amount of points a buff behavior gives to an attribute I use 3 Buff Behaviors, 3 attribute behaviors, and 3 upgrades, with 1 research ability9, |
| 15:53.55 | Blizz-Deletarius | looks crazy |
| 15:54.29 | zenxu | dele you done lots of UI design? |
| 15:54.49 | Ahli | that map is a korean version of blood marathon |
| 15:54.52 | Taintedwisp | What happens is SOMETIMES(very often), the unit will loose a ton of energy when I upgrade, the thing is, its a random amount of energy that is lost... I know I didnt set anything to do this, and I have double checked EVERYTHING, Remade and remade everything and still nothing |
| 15:54.55 | duckies | Ahli, so by default duration is 0, apply that behavior with effect that has, say 5.0 set as duration + use duration checked => applied behavior will last 5 seconds instead of forever? |
| 15:55.22 | Blizz-Deletarius | zenxu, yes, I've designed an entire editor, and all of the interface of that editor for another game company |
| 15:55.28 | Blizz-Deletarius | amongst other things |
| 15:55.47 | Blizz-Deletarius | I've also done pharmaceutical motion graphics where I designed user interfaces that were "used" in videos |
| 15:55.50 | Taintedwisp | Deletarius was it for Age of empires 3? :P |
| 15:55.52 | zenxu | just wondering if there was any chance at all that Hots design was good cause youv worked with UIs so much |
| 15:55.56 | Blizz-Deletarius | no |
| 15:55.58 | zenxu | but I doubt it :D |
| 15:56.01 | Taintedwisp | damn |
| 15:56.23 | Blizz-Deletarius | well |
| 15:56.31 | zenxu | I like WoL UI better actually |
| 15:56.32 | Blizz-Deletarius | a lot of the changes in UI in the editor, icons included, are my doing |
| 15:56.40 | zenxu | I mean bnet UI |
| 15:56.47 | Blizz-Deletarius | oh |
| 15:56.50 | Taintedwisp | nice |
| 15:56.51 | Blizz-Deletarius | no, that's another team |
| 15:56.55 | zenxu | but still |
| 15:56.57 | Blizz-Deletarius | well group of people |
| 15:56.59 | zenxu | since you said its good |
| 15:57.01 | Blizz-Deletarius | on the sc team |
| 15:57.03 | zenxu | I still think its not |
| 15:57.05 | zenxu | :/ |
| 15:57.13 | zenxu | you just like kerrigans tits |
| 15:57.16 | zenxu | dont you |
| 15:57.16 | Blizz-Deletarius | that's fine |
| 15:57.24 | Taintedwisp | Zenxu, I was okay with the ui, but the 1.5 ui is terrible :P. The arcade feels forced in there a bit, and with the 2.0 UI it seems like it actually fits |
| 15:57.51 | Dogmai | Hots is better |
| 15:57.52 | zenxu | its not really too terrible |
| 15:57.54 | Dogmai | 1000 times better |
| 15:57.57 | zenxu | no way |
| 15:57.59 | Dogmai | in terms of practical design |
| 15:58.09 | Taintedwisp | yeah cept those Thick Terran frames :P |
| 15:58.20 | Blizz-Deletarius | heh |
| 15:58.29 | Blizz-Deletarius | as a zerg, the terran chrome bothers me ;) |
| 15:58.34 | Taintedwisp | They should be Thin maybe 1/8th of an inch on my screen grey with a pattern |
| 15:59.00 | zenxu | well thats it for now, is blizz gona add those "bug report pages" on arcade |
| 15:59.04 | zenxu | and "reply" option |
| 15:59.11 | Blizz-Deletarius | no idea |
| 15:59.15 | zenxu | they should |
| 15:59.23 | Blizz-Deletarius | also |
| 15:59.29 | Blizz-Deletarius | twitter.com/deletarius :O |
| 16:00.25 | Taintedwisp | There I hit follow |
| 16:00.28 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 16:00.37 | Taintedwisp | Now I can troll.... |
| 16:00.40 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 16:00.47 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 16:00.57 | *** part/#sc2mapster G0A (~hookah604@81-0-108-138.pool.invitel.hu) |
| 16:00.57 | Taintedwisp | But yeah deletarius do you have any idea about that bug? |
| 16:01.05 | Blizz-Deletarius | nope, sorry tainted |
| 16:01.08 | zenxu | btw |
| 16:01.30 | zenxu | I also noticed its really weird how much the first page affects on popularity (like the up and coming) |
| 16:01.35 | Taintedwisp | damn I am starting to think its an actual editor bug. |
| 16:01.43 | Dogmai | Hit me up with that follow button Dele, https://twitter.com/TofuArena |
| 16:01.52 | zenxu | I went 2 times from page5 -> page2, only because up and coming |
| 16:01.53 | Ahli | people don't/rarely use open games |
| 16:02.02 | zenxu | would be really nice if it would promot more random maps |
| 16:02.05 | Taintedwisp | because there is absolutely nothing that could cause it in what I did(everything Is really simple and only has 1 or 2 fields changed) |
| 16:02.14 | Dustin|Work | Open games is the only thing I use |
| 16:02.27 | Blizz-Deletarius | we have some ideas on what we're doing with open games |
| 16:02.31 | Taintedwisp | yeah I use open games, and its placed better in 2.0, deff |
| 16:02.40 | duckies | x_x, ahli, you were right, they worked, I just got lost in effect chains and edited unrelated effects with similiar names, silly me :D |
| 16:02.43 | Ahli | make sure you read my feedback I linked here |
| 16:02.53 | Blizz-Deletarius | link again? |
| 16:02.59 | Taintedwisp | I hope they remove top 10 completely, It makes customs feel competitive, and just put a mini open games there and then randomize browse |
| 16:03.08 | Taintedwisp | People will bookmark the games they really love |
| 16:03.12 | Ahli | http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/6161068471#2 |
| 16:03.25 | zenxu | top rated is stupid to have atleast |
| 16:03.30 | zenxu | top10 played is ok imo |
| 16:03.39 | zenxu | allthou |
| 16:03.50 | Ahli | I try to analyze the current arcade, then take a look back to what I know (scbw bnet) and try to use both strengths in my own design approach |
| 16:03.52 | zenxu | the up&coming is only thing that can help boost popularity |
| 16:03.58 | Taintedwisp | Well It had reasons for being tried, but I think its problems outweighs its solutions |
| 16:03.59 | zenxu | and its stops when you reach at place 16 |
| 16:04.11 | zenxu | so you cannot pretty ever make it to top10 |
| 16:04.22 | Blizz-Deletarius | alright, I'll take a look ahli |
| 16:04.25 | zenxu | well maybe if its super high replayability, super casual you might do it |
| 16:04.45 | Taintedwisp | I still say there is a bug in the electrical system :P |
| 16:04.48 | Blizz-Deletarius | maybe you just need to make a better game zen :P |
| 16:04.55 | zenxu | its not that |
| 16:04.59 | zenxu | you played barcraft? |
| 16:05.03 | Blizz-Deletarius | yes |
| 16:05.05 | zenxu | I think its better game than mine |
| 16:05.12 | Taintedwisp | DRAGON RPG SUCKED IT HAD A 10 lvl leveling system with 1 monster that kept respawning, in one small poorly terrained location... |
| 16:05.12 | zenxu | but it doesnt get popularity it deserves |
| 16:05.26 | Taintedwisp | And somehow it hit top 10 on that |
| 16:05.33 | Taintedwisp | Since then it HAS improved, but still |
| 16:05.56 | zenxu | but it might be community yet again |
| 16:06.00 | zenxu | maybe majority wouldnt want to play it |
| 16:06.04 | Taintedwisp | and when I talked to the maker, he said he just uploaded it and it shot up there in like 30 minutes... |
| 16:06.11 | zenxu | but I would still prefer if that kind of maps did get attention they deserve |
| 16:06.24 | zenxu | if you compare that to "angry angry templar" |
| 16:06.31 | zenxu | which deserves to be featured? |
| 16:06.35 | zenxu | we live in a sick world |
| 16:06.43 | Taintedwisp | yeah I feel you zenx, I just want it so If I host a game, it can get people :P the less popular ones take more time I understand that |
| 16:07.15 | Taintedwisp | but right now the top ten is even minorly affecting the open games, since those 10 maps are almost always on page 1 of the open games, because players can click them immediantly like that |
| 16:07.22 | zenxu | part of the problem naturally is that blizz doesnt support map making |
| 16:07.33 | zenxu | and doesnt even bother looking trough whats going on |
| 16:07.47 | Taintedwisp | :P nah zenxu you cant say that deletarius is here right? what more could you ask for then direct support :P |
| 16:07.58 | ckSynergy | anyone know how to get a unit's "detector" flag to show up under its name? or was that changed recently? |
| 16:08.01 | zenxu | editor support is fine |
| 16:08.10 | zenxu | but the bnet....I dunno about that |
| 16:08.32 | zenxu | I really hate that you can upload 20 melee maps on fill up the newest tab |
| 16:08.49 | zenxu | whic happens a lot |
| 16:08.54 | Ahli | unit needs to be a detector and I would check out the unit actor |
| 16:08.54 | Taintedwisp | you have to remember, blizzard has 3 communities, 1 e-sports, 1-Casuals, and 1- Technical, We are the technical we are the smallest we are the guys who make new maps |
| 16:09.00 | Taintedwisp | Blizzard has to find a common ground to help EVERYONE |
| 16:09.10 | Taintedwisp | and that i would imagine can be VERY difficult |
| 16:09.37 | zenxu | Im pretty happy with the current bnet, so I wonder why I complain so much |
| 16:09.40 | zenxu | some things are just pretty anoying |
| 16:09.49 | zenxu | yes Im trying to give constructive feedback |
| 16:09.55 | zenxu | even thou I hsould post it on forums |
| 16:10.10 | zenxu | but Ill brainwash deletarius one of these days |
| 16:10.20 | zenxu | so doesnt matter |
| 16:10.28 | Taintedwisp | :P yeah, blizz is a buisness while still maintaining their gaming roots, so Things are going to take time, I just hope they do it quick enough before everyone quits on them |
| 16:11.48 | Taintedwisp | I have bought every blizz game since Wc1, so I am going to stay until I feel betrayed, and that doesnt look like its going to happen any time soon, they arent doing any online passes or anything :P |
| 16:12.24 | zenxu | yes I gotta hand it to them they are pretty good at trying atleast |
| 16:12.29 | zenxu | wheter they succeed or not |
| 16:12.39 | Taintedwisp | 3 things that would make me quit blizzz 1. Pay for a patch, 2. Online passes, 3. Unexpected bullshit :P |
| 16:12.53 | Taintedwisp | hah |
| 16:12.57 | zenxu | I think just couple things are enough |
| 16:13.17 | zenxu | 1. not enough players for customs 2. horrible bnet on hots |
| 16:13.19 | Taintedwisp | 1 time though of paying for a patch.... and its over :P hahah, though I dont htink blizz would ever do that |
| 16:13.49 | Taintedwisp | If customs fail thats fine, I still have the Melee, but I like customs more, though the sc2 customs feel very uninnovative |
| 16:14.14 | Taintedwisp | The top ten list is just lame remakes |
| 16:14.44 | zenxu | btw |
| 16:14.49 | zenxu | considering megablocks vs. lego |
| 16:14.52 | Dogmai | James |
| 16:14.56 | zenxu | megablocks sound so lame to me |
| 16:15.01 | Dogmai | You're gay |
| 16:15.02 | zenxu | I dont like that name |
| 16:15.08 | Dogmai | I know your real name now |
| 16:15.10 | Dogmai | Zomg |
| 16:15.27 | Taintedwisp | hahaha |
| 16:15.36 | Taintedwisp | Stfu assley |
| 16:15.41 | Taintedwisp | ghahah |
| 16:15.41 | zenxu | :D |
| 16:15.44 | Dogmai | fuck u |
| 16:15.46 | Dogmai | fuck dryeyece |
| 16:15.47 | Taintedwisp | Could be worse my name could be ashley |
| 16:15.49 | zenxu | oh you guys |
| 16:15.50 | Taintedwisp | HAHAAH |
| 16:15.51 | Dogmai | that bastard can't keep anything to himself |
| 16:16.04 | Taintedwisp | Damn you knew in an instant |
| 16:16.18 | Dogmai | he adds the lee thing to piss me off |
| 16:16.20 | Dogmai | -_- |
| 16:16.34 | Taintedwisp | hhaahh |
| 16:16.56 | Dogmai | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghrDIQ-K8mg |
| 16:16.57 | Taintedwisp | See what happens when I get Dryeyece on skype? |
| 16:17.04 | Dogmai | I wanna go to walmart |
| 16:17.08 | Dogmai | When i come to america |
| 16:17.14 | Dogmai | Who wants to take me |
| 16:17.22 | Taintedwisp | < doesnt have his own house :P |
| 16:17.34 | Dogmai | I was reading a property report |
| 16:17.34 | zenxu | indeed that place seems interesting |
| 16:17.39 | Dogmai | They said, if you work in LA |
| 16:17.42 | Dogmai | Don't buy |
| 16:17.44 | Dogmai | Rent instead |
| 16:18.06 | Dogmai | Which I guess is alright, cause if I rent out this house it should cover the rent for LA |
| 16:18.14 | Dogmai | Our rents are stupid high |
| 16:18.28 | zenxu | what you gona do there? |
| 16:18.36 | Taintedwisp | < Rents are stupid cheap where I am :P and so is buying |
| 16:18.52 | Taintedwisp | for about 10k you can get you a trailer and an acre of land!!! |
| 16:18.59 | Dogmai | Median house price where I grew up and I want to move back to is about 1.2m |
| 16:19.09 | Taintedwisp | 5k for acre and 4k on trailer 1k for hookups you good |
| 16:19.19 | Dogmai | For an old house that needs to be bulldozed |
| 16:19.41 | zenxu | what you gona do in LA |
| 16:19.55 | Dogmai | Fly |
| 16:20.13 | Taintedwisp | hes gunna try to have gay sex with huskystarcraft... true story |
| 16:20.16 | Taintedwisp | thats his dream |
| 16:20.23 | zenxu | you need to rent a house to fly... |
| 16:20.23 | zenxu | weird |
| 16:20.37 | Taintedwisp | IF hes gunna stay a while i suppose |
| 16:20.44 | Dogmai | Fly = be free |
| 16:20.50 | Taintedwisp | Why LA though? LA is a crime haven i thought :P |
| 16:21.10 | Dogmai | I do not want to be trapped in my city |
| 16:21.21 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 16:21.26 | Dogmai | The industry is divided between LA and SF |
| 16:21.33 | Dogmai | I live in the most isolated city in the world |
| 16:21.37 | Dogmai | It is not a good feeling |
| 16:21.46 | zenxu | moving away is pretty scary |
| 16:21.53 | Taintedwisp | He literally lives with a kangaroo |
| 16:21.55 | Dogmai | I can achieve so much more, I have so much more potential than this shithole can allow my to reach |
| 16:22.09 | Dogmai | Actually no |
| 16:22.12 | Dogmai | But my dad does |
| 16:22.17 | Taintedwisp | hahaha |
| 16:22.21 | Dogmai | He says he has a Kangaroo that comes around to his house every morning for a feed |
| 16:22.28 | Dogmai | Wouldnt surprise me |
| 16:22.33 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 16:22.35 | Dogmai | We have huge pet lizards here |
| 16:22.36 | zenxu | I should probly dream a bit bigger |
| 16:22.37 | Dustin|Work | I want a kangaroo |
| 16:22.39 | Dogmai | They just hang around the backyard |
| 16:22.48 | Dogmai | I have dreams |
| 16:22.51 | Dogmai | Big dreams |
| 16:22.57 | zenxu | but its hard to get anything achieved, not to mention how depressing news and such are nowadays |
| 16:23.06 | Dogmai | That go far beyond working in the industry |
| 16:23.08 | Taintedwisp | < wants a kamodo dragon, i dont give a fuck if they are basically poisonous. |
| 16:23.18 | Dogmai | Its merely a stepping stone in a greater plan |
| 16:23.26 | zenxu | If you are talking about game industry...I wouldnt dream too big |
| 16:23.28 | Dogmai | Komodos are too big |
| 16:23.36 | Taintedwisp | Nahh... I wanna ride it around |
| 16:23.42 | Dogmai | My trade isn't in games |
| 16:23.56 | Taintedwisp | hes a graphic artist i believe correct? |
| 16:24.29 | Dogmai | amongst other things |
| 16:24.30 | Taintedwisp | I have dreams too dogmai... mainly to stay white and die :P |
| 16:24.47 | zenxu | even with that |
| 16:24.52 | Dogmai | My dreams dont involve graphic design |
| 16:24.59 | Taintedwisp | ah |
| 16:25.00 | Dogmai | I have been doing that stuff for over 10 years |
| 16:25.02 | Dogmai | I am tired of it |
| 16:25.10 | Dogmai | The median wage has fallen to minimum wage |
| 16:25.13 | Dogmai | Unless you own the firm |
| 16:25.23 | Dogmai | Even then, you have to compete with every stupid kid out of school |
| 16:25.26 | Dogmai | That undercuts you |
| 16:25.34 | Dogmai | And then finds out that he cant survive and leaves the industry |
| 16:25.41 | Dogmai | But another kid jumps into his place |
| 16:25.48 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 16:25.59 | Dogmai | I got taught that in College |
| 16:26.03 | Taintedwisp | i would jump in for a quick buck but i am not too creative |
| 16:26.03 | Dogmai | The first rule of business |
| 16:26.07 | Dogmai | Dont undercut the big businesses |
| 16:26.13 | Dogmai | Because you destroy the industry |
| 16:26.21 | Taintedwisp | hah |
| 16:26.30 | Dogmai | Its true |
| 16:26.37 | Dogmai | I had a mate who studied graphic design for 4 years |
| 16:26.45 | Dogmai | When he started was the same time I had my firm |
| 16:26.52 | Dogmai | The median wage was $165/hour |
| 16:26.58 | Taintedwisp | Jesus..... |
| 16:27.10 | Dogmai | When he got out, he got a job (the best one he could get) at $11/hour |
| 16:27.14 | Taintedwisp | Thats more then i would get paid for about 3 days work at 10 hours a day |
| 16:27.20 | Dogmai | In those 4 years, the market became satuated |
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| 16:27.32 | Dogmai | No need to say, I had to expand my business |
| 16:27.42 | Dogmai | Move onto other areas |
| 16:27.43 | Taintedwisp | Dogmai went to hookin |
| 16:27.49 | zenxu | it seems to be case with many jobs |
| 16:27.50 | Taintedwisp | he was hittin that corner |
| 16:27.51 | Dogmai | Eventually my main source of income came from Consultancy work |
| 16:28.01 | zenxu | in my city I cannot get a decent pay or even a job |
| 16:28.07 | zenxu | from electrical engineering |
| 16:28.10 | zenxu | so much saturation |
| 16:28.13 | Dogmai | Because even though companies cried poor and said they couldnt afford me to do the work |
| 16:28.15 | Taintedwisp | I cant even get shit pay from any job it seems... |
| 16:28.21 | Dogmai | I could still get paid to tell the kids how to do the work |
| 16:28.47 | Dogmai | The same happens with Photography |
| 16:28.55 | Dogmai | When I started I was on $200 an hour |
| 16:29.01 | Dogmai | Although - I did not work full-time |
| 16:29.04 | Dogmai | You work less hours |
| 16:29.23 | Dogmai | And there are other factors to take into consideration, like costs of equipment, studio renting etc |
| 16:29.23 | zenxu | wtf |
| 16:29.35 | zenxu | you would think you would be millionare by now |
| 16:29.40 | Dogmai | But I stopped doing that for Tofu |
| 16:29.45 | Dustin|Work | I really really really want to work for myself |
| 16:29.50 | Dogmai | I was talking to mates, and they said the wage has fallen to $20 an hour |
| 16:29.52 | Dustin|Work | I just need to comeup with a viable business plan |
| 16:29.57 | zenxu | photographing? you would think they should be pretty special pictures for that price |
| 16:30.02 | Dogmai | Because now "everyone" thinks they are a photographer |
| 16:30.07 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 16:30.14 | Dogmai | Its like every industry I went into |
| 16:30.17 | Dogmai | I had to build up my business |
| 16:30.22 | Dogmai | Only to see the industry collapse around me |
| 16:30.33 | Taintedwisp | Your bad luck... |
| 16:30.36 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 16:30.37 | Dogmai | Yep |
| 16:30.43 | Dogmai | So I have some savings |
| 16:30.47 | Dogmai | But 2 years with now ork |
| 16:30.49 | Dogmai | no work* |
| 16:30.51 | Taintedwisp | Stay outta whatever buisness I decide to go into :P |
| 16:30.53 | Dogmai | Has taken it's toll |
| 16:30.55 | zenxu | The taxes and such are so fucking high there is not even much sense to start own business here |
| 16:30.57 | zenxu | its ridiculous |
| 16:31.12 | Dogmai | Tax here ranges from 20% to 49.9% |
| 16:31.15 | zenxu | like its commong to do not get profit in first year or so |
| 16:31.19 | Taintedwisp | damn |
| 16:31.20 | zenxu | yet you get taxed |
| 16:31.25 | Dogmai | depending on how much you earn |
| 16:31.37 | Dogmai | Here, the government supports small businesses |
| 16:31.42 | Dogmai | You get tonnes of help, mentoring, etc |
| 16:31.52 | Dogmai | I went to the government trying to get 1-2 million |
| 16:31.53 | Taintedwisp | well dogmai your government was founded by thieves :P guess they never lost that |
| 16:32.03 | Dogmai | Honestly, it went like this |
| 16:32.05 | Dogmai | What do you want? |
| 16:32.12 | Dogmai | One or two million |
| 16:32.16 | Dogmai | O_O |
| 16:32.20 | Ahli | I take both |
| 16:32.30 | zenxu | why would you say that |
| 16:32.30 | Dogmai | I went to get funding for an indi game project |
| 16:32.34 | zenxu | you should say 2 million |
| 16:32.38 | zenxu | then you can lower it later ^^ |
| 16:32.50 | Dogmai | They believe I have a 100+million dollar project |
| 16:32.54 | zenxu | noway they gona fund that? |
| 16:32.58 | Dogmai | And told me to stay away from private investors / investing firms |
| 16:33.01 | Dogmai | But |
| 16:33.05 | Dogmai | its inbetween funding periods atm |
| 16:33.09 | Dogmai | the old funding stopped in 2011 |
| 16:33.12 | Taintedwisp | damn |
| 16:33.17 | Dogmai | the new one wont kick in until sometime 2013-2015 |
| 16:33.26 | Dogmai | Just my luck hey |
| 16:33.35 | Taintedwisp | I Would just continue on making it the best I could |
| 16:33.45 | Dogmai | Its too big for me |
| 16:33.58 | Dogmai | It needs a solid team behind it |
| 16:34.07 | Taintedwisp | and by the time it does kick it.... your idea is liable to have already been thought up by someone else atleast similarly,. |
| 16:34.26 | Dogmai | It kind of has already, but its not the same |
| 16:34.35 | Dogmai | Like, the people who are doing something similar |
| 16:34.37 | Dogmai | Are morons |
| 16:34.43 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 16:34.46 | Dogmai | There is so much potential in the genre |
| 16:34.48 | Dogmai | But they cant see it |
| 16:34.53 | Taintedwisp | HES MAKING TOFU IN INDIE FORM!!!!! |
| 16:34.57 | Dogmai | No |
| 16:35.06 | zenxu | potential in arena games? |
| 16:35.11 | Dogmai | its not arena |
| 16:35.19 | Dogmai | its not really anything thats been done before |
| 16:35.24 | Dogmai | the genre doesnt truely exist yet |
| 16:35.28 | zenxu | and its extremely hard industry |
| 16:35.31 | Dogmai | I have seen another game explore the idea |
| 16:35.34 | zenxu | so much competition |
| 16:35.40 | Dogmai | Yeah |
| 16:35.48 | Dogmai | But the funding doesnt go into my pocket |
| 16:35.52 | Taintedwisp | There is no potential in arena games any more thats gone, Once a handful of companies Monopolized on a free2play versions, that was over, any new ones will most likely fail |
| 16:35.55 | Dogmai | The funding only goes into paying wages |
| 16:36.01 | Taintedwisp | Unless they have a HUGE name behind them |
| 16:36.15 | Dogmai | So that is why the government is more likely to fund my project |
| 16:36.24 | zenxu | I think there is market for more RPGs |
| 16:36.28 | Dogmai | Because its going straight into the economy |
| 16:36.34 | zenxu | I would like to see like FF6 styled games |
| 16:36.35 | Taintedwisp | Blizzards might succeed well if they make it standalone, but even then they will need activision to put its name on it too, just so it will have that extra name, not that the blizz name isnt great |
| 16:36.43 | zenxu | or more SKYRIM styled (in epic world) |
| 16:36.46 | Dogmai | I have so many ideas for the future of battle net |
| 16:36.50 | Dogmai | Battle net could be huge |
| 16:37.05 | Dogmai | You can make an entire platform you know |
| 16:37.13 | Taintedwisp | yeah I know |
| 16:37.24 | Taintedwisp | Dogmai I have an idea for it to :P but they wont do that. mwhaha |
| 16:37.26 | zenxu | I also agree bnet could be much more |
| 16:37.38 | Ahli | also, if Blizzard fails, fans can blame activision some more |
| 16:37.38 | Dogmai | Honestly, I really hope one day i can just sit in a boardroom of Blizzard executives |
| 16:37.41 | Dogmai | And tell them my idea |
| 16:37.44 | Dogmai | ideas* |
| 16:37.48 | Dogmai | There is so much potential |
| 16:37.51 | zenxu | keep on dreamin |
| 16:37.55 | Dogmai | You know when I went to China |
| 16:37.58 | Dogmai | All I saw was potential |
| 16:38.01 | zenxu | I told deletarius all my amazing ideas |
| 16:38.05 | Taintedwisp | :P It would be nice if I could just manage to write mine down in specific detail :P |
| 16:38.05 | zenxu | but he just keeps turning me down :( |
| 16:38.09 | Taintedwisp | but I suck at explaining shit |
| 16:38.18 | Dogmai | See thats a big problem tainted |
| 16:38.26 | Dogmai | I am very good at explaining my ideas |
| 16:38.37 | Dogmai | Ideas are nothing if other people cant understand them |
| 16:38.40 | zenxu | pics or didng happen |
| 16:39.36 | Dogmai | pics for what |
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| 16:39.45 | Taintedwisp | My goal in pretty much life though I havent told anyone this, is to make a program that I can Write my ideas on :P. haha, It wont be some small program, and it will be made so EVERYONE who sucks at explaining shit can explain in detail, or create an example of what they want. in a way an editor thats not for games |
| 16:39.55 | Taintedwisp | thats something I havent even started on yet though |
| 16:40.03 | zenxu | of you being good at explaining ideas |
| 16:40.03 | Ahli | paint? |
| 16:40.07 | zenxu | and ideas that are good |
| 16:40.18 | Dogmai | you would have to see me in a boardroom |
| 16:40.23 | Taintedwisp | hahah ahli, nah it wouldnt be anything like pain |
| 16:40.25 | Taintedwisp | paint :P |
| 16:40.28 | Dogmai | and give me time to make some slideshowsssssssss |
| 16:40.36 | Ahli | slides ftw |
| 16:40.38 | zenxu | not conviced, not convinced |
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| 16:40.43 | Dogmai | amen |
| 16:40.45 | Dogmai | you know what |
| 16:40.47 | Dogmai | i found |
| 16:40.49 | Dogmai | the bigger the company |
| 16:40.52 | Dogmai | the more basic their slides are |
| 16:40.59 | Taintedwisp | NOT CONVINCED HES AN AUSSIE DONT TRUST HIM!!! HE WILL STEAL YOUR DOG AND CLAIM ITS HIS DINGO!!! |
| 16:41.01 | Dogmai | little companies try to make their slides look too pretty |
| 16:41.07 | Dogmai | it is my dingo |
| 16:41.10 | Dogmai | and dont you forget it |
| 16:41.33 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 16:41.35 | Dingo | its registered poor me |
| 16:41.48 | Taintedwisp | I just try to convey my points :P but I am a very unorganized person :P. |
| 16:41.59 | Dogmai | See that is bad |
| 16:42.04 | Ahli | my slides are pretty basic, too... I even use the default colors :D |
| 16:42.05 | Taintedwisp | ~dingo |
| 16:42.07 | Dogmai | I cannot stand disorganisation |
| 16:42.18 | Dogmai | Unless its my desk |
| 16:42.28 | zenxu | whats bad with having basic slides |
| 16:42.30 | Taintedwisp | To me i just put a prefix that I can relate to whats in it.... thats the spand of my organization |
| 16:42.32 | Dogmai | And then it is not disorganised |
| 16:42.33 | zenxu | they shouldnt be overwhelming or anything |
| 16:42.42 | Dogmai | Its organised chaos! |
| 16:42.48 | Dogmai | god damn american spellcheck |
| 16:42.49 | Taintedwisp | Now if its Physical , then I can keep it organized, but Virtual... hell no |
| 16:42.50 | Dogmai | its S not a Z |
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| 16:43.09 | Taintedwisp | every now and again i will throw things into catagory folders... but its still not too organized |
| 16:43.14 | Dogmai | http://www.giantbomb.com/news/gamings-women-raise-sexism-awareness-with-1reasonwhy-movement-on-twitter/4458/ |
| 16:43.24 | Dogmai | Because our lead designer used to yell about there being "a vagina in the room" and nobody called him on it, boss included. #1reasonwhy |
| 16:43.34 | Dogmai | I would have called that bastard out |
| 16:43.38 | Taintedwisp | Organized |
| 16:43.40 | Dogmai | Different cultures |
| 16:43.48 | Taintedwisp | Google says its a damn Z its a damn Z |
| 16:43.49 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 16:43.52 | Dogmai | Sad thing is, 90% of the time I spell stuff with a Z |
| 16:44.02 | Taintedwisp | hah |
| 16:44.02 | Dogmai | And I can use color |
| 16:44.04 | Dogmai | I don't like to |
| 16:44.06 | Dogmai | But I can do it |
| 16:44.18 | Dogmai | harbour and armour are different though |
| 16:44.21 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 16:44.40 | Taintedwisp | I have no problem with a woman gamer... i dont get what the big deal is.... |
| 16:44.53 | Taintedwisp | Though I hate it when the Main character in any movie or game is a woman... i cant stand it... |
| 16:45.54 | Dogmai | its women devs |
| 16:46.08 | Dogmai | there is a chinese american that plays d3 |
| 16:46.10 | Dogmai | a girl |
| 16:46.12 | Dogmai | she pissed me off |
| 16:46.14 | Dogmai | not because she was a girl |
| 16:46.27 | Dogmai | but because she was blatantly abusing glitches in the game |
| 16:46.31 | Taintedwisp | But because shes a fucking squint? |
| 16:46.36 | Dogmai | oi |
| 16:46.36 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 16:46.39 | Dogmai | my missus is chinese |
| 16:46.40 | Dogmai | no racism |
| 16:46.41 | Taintedwisp | hahaa |
| 16:46.50 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 16:47.00 | Dogmai | Racism is uncalled for mate, even as jokes |
| 16:47.04 | Taintedwisp | I talk shit about every race whities and dingos included :P |
| 16:47.17 | Dogmai | I've called up many more powerful people than you for being racist/sexist pigs |
| 16:47.25 | Dogmai | And you should have seen their faces |
| 16:47.33 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 16:47.36 | Dogmai | Australians don't like being called out hey |
| 16:48.01 | Taintedwisp | I am not racist, I just enjoy the sterotypes :P they are pretty funny a lot of them once you get past hate behind them |
| 16:48.28 | Taintedwisp | like black people being porch monkies :P, Come on thats a good one |
| 16:48.31 | Dogmai | I gotta go to bed |
| 16:48.36 | Taintedwisp | And whites being called crackers |
| 16:48.39 | Dogmai | If you wanna make fun of my missus |
| 16:48.40 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 16:48.44 | Dogmai | Ask her to put something on the top shelf |
| 16:48.46 | Dogmai | Like i did today |
| 16:48.50 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 16:48.54 | Ahli | :D |
| 16:49.13 | Dogmai | Night all |
| 16:49.18 | Dogmai | Behavour wulf |
| 16:49.26 | Dogmai | behave |
| 16:49.28 | Taintedwisp | nah I would never make fun of a single person its pointless to try to hurt someone else... that takes time outta my day for no reason |
| 16:49.34 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 16:50.00 | Taintedwisp | http://www.giantbomb.com/news/gamings-women-raise-sexism-awareness-with-1reasonwhy-movement-on-twitter/4458/ AHAHAHA |
| 16:50.19 | Taintedwisp | Really? i agree some are bad... but the majority of these womens reasons are bullshit.. |
| 16:50.36 | Dogmai | Mate, if it was my missus or my daughter |
| 16:50.42 | Dogmai | I wouldn't want some ass talking down to em |
| 16:50.47 | Dogmai | Treating them like meat |
| 16:51.20 | zenxu | anyone up for some dota2 with me? |
| 16:51.32 | Ahli | Blizz-Deletarius: feedback to my feedback? |
| 16:51.34 | Taintedwisp | yeah i agree on that |
| 16:51.47 | Taintedwisp | But i read some of these reasons... Some are legit and fucked up, but some are just overreaction |
| 16:52.00 | Taintedwisp | #1reasonwhy because when I tell people I'm a designer, I without fail get "Really? You don't look like you play games. Guys must love you." |
| 16:52.11 | Taintedwisp | Example, people dont expect a hot girl to be a game designer :P |
| 16:52.21 | Taintedwisp | thats more of a stereotype of gamers and designers |
| 16:52.27 | zenxu | yea... |
| 16:52.35 | zenxu | if its more common to have male desginers |
| 16:52.42 | Blizz-Deletarius | Ahli |
| 16:52.43 | zenxu | why is it supprising if they go "really?" |
| 16:52.48 | Blizz-Deletarius | "If you host something else, you won't ever have people joining the lobby." this is literally not true |
| 16:53.33 | Blizz-Deletarius | we've done tests where we've picked the 385th most popular map, and ~10 mins later the lobby was full |
| 16:53.35 | Taintedwisp | Some of those like the vagina in the room are pretty bad, and he should have been called out... |
| 16:53.38 | Ahli | that's in the old system |
| 16:53.46 | Ahli | the one where you only got browse |
| 16:54.01 | zenxu | you should also run same tests on EU btw |
| 16:54.10 | zenxu | (I think we can just talk from EU perspective) |
| 16:54.19 | Taintedwisp | UHG I DONT UNDERSTAND THIS BUG!!!!!!! its breaking my entire attribute system |
| 16:54.55 | zenxu | 10 mins to get lobby full seems pretty fast |
| 16:54.58 | zenxu | I doubt we can do that |
| 16:54.59 | Dogmai | I've been trying to host games of Tofu to no avail |
| 16:55.04 | Dogmai | Wrong player base on Hots though |
| 16:55.10 | Dogmai | Hots is mainly Melee players |
| 16:55.16 | Dogmai | Gotta go to bed, missus aint happy |
| 16:55.16 | Dogmai | night |
| 16:55.17 | Blizz-Deletarius | for the most part |
| 16:55.19 | Blizz-Deletarius | yes |
| 16:55.26 | Ahli | 1.5 system solves it to some degree. Everything we would need is there. At least on EU, open lobbies isn't used... |
| 16:55.28 | Taintedwisp | I think the majority of those things in that article though are just due to the typical Stereotype of gamers and game developers lets be honest when you think game dev or gamer, you think overweight white guy...... |
| 16:55.33 | Blizz-Deletarius | so wait |
| 16:55.44 | Blizz-Deletarius | isn't open lobbies the system that was used in WC3/BW? |
| 16:56.17 | Taintedwisp | Is is, but it didnt have to compete with the top 10, and since the top 10 is on page 1, then the open games wont be used |
| 16:56.18 | Dogmai | what we really need is statistics |
| 16:56.18 | zenxu | it is |
| 16:56.21 | zenxu | but |
| 16:56.23 | Dogmai | to log what players click through |
| 16:56.29 | Taintedwisp | If that top 10 is swapped with a mini open games then it should be fine and would work great |
| 16:56.30 | Blizz-Deletarius | isn't that exactly what everyone wanted? |
| 16:56.31 | Ahli | yes, but players were forced to see it... |
| 16:56.32 | zenxu | wc3 the list rotated (whter its better or not) |
| 16:56.33 | Dogmai | either through open lobbies, or featured, up and coming, bookmark, searche tc |
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| 16:56.46 | Dogmai | The top 10 gives us something to strive for |
| 16:56.57 | Dogmai | You cannot blame the devs for what the player base chooses to play |
| 16:57.00 | Taintedwisp | The top 10 also makes it harder to compete too |
| 16:57.03 | zenxu | I still think you should consider having "top10 maps" not be in open lobbies |
| 16:57.06 | zenxu | just as experiment |
| 16:57.10 | Dogmai | Browder said it best, the games up there are for a reason |
| 16:57.15 | zenxu | I cant tell myself if it would be better ot not |
| 16:57.18 | zenxu | but it could be |
| 16:57.18 | Dogmai | Regardless what he, or anyone else thinks |
| 16:57.58 | Blizz-Deletarius | regardless of what you think of those games, they *are* the top 10 most popular games, they're the top 10 maps that are being played the most |
| 16:57.59 | Taintedwisp | Ehh, I dont agree, dogmai, Even when I am in games of Squad td ( i go about 1 time a month ), usually I ask why everyone plays and they usually say because its the easiest to get to |
| 16:57.59 | Ahli | and it was lengthened automatically... current open lobbies is "most played" and "work", if you want to see maps that aren't most popular (which sort of equals most played to some degree) |
| 16:58.04 | Blizz-Deletarius | it's the same thing as say Angry Birds |
| 16:58.06 | Blizz-Deletarius | I hate it |
| 16:58.12 | Zolden | and another ship http://snag.gy/SjPyx.jpg |
| 16:58.13 | Blizz-Deletarius | but it's the top 10 in the apple store |
| 16:58.19 | Blizz-Deletarius | and a ton of people are playing it |
| 16:58.37 | Ahli | is apple store for multiplayer or sinngleplayer? |
| 16:58.46 | Blizz-Deletarius | anything |
| 16:58.50 | Blizz-Deletarius | there's no separation |
| 16:58.53 | Blizz-Deletarius | for games |
| 16:58.59 | Dogmai | Ease to get to is a problem with the player base |
| 16:59.01 | Dogmai | They dont want to wait |
| 16:59.04 | Taintedwisp | I still think That blizzard should Remove up and coming, either put open games mini list, or top ten list there and IF the top 10 is put where up and coming is, then put a mini open games list there |
| 16:59.05 | Dogmai | They have a self entitlement |
| 16:59.07 | Blizz-Deletarius | I mean there's a little "multiplayer games" section |
| 16:59.07 | zenxu | you have a point, but if people can join from one place already |
| 16:59.13 | zenxu | is second one needed? |
| 16:59.22 | zenxu | its like the |
| 16:59.29 | zenxu | 1% of bnet gets all popularity |
| 16:59.30 | Dogmai | The world is getting faster, if a lobby cant fill up in less than a minute people leave and make it worst |
| 16:59.32 | zenxu | with extra exposure |
| 16:59.34 | Taintedwisp | I also believe that players will BOOKMARK the maps they want to play :P |
| 16:59.37 | Dogmai | 1% of people get all the wealth |
| 16:59.44 | Taintedwisp | IF they really love those maps they will stay up on the open games list anyways |
| 16:59.46 | Dogmai | It is about those who leverage the system to their advantage that succeed |
| 17:00.00 | Dogmai | The greatest test of this will be Tofu |
| 17:00.02 | Dogmai | Honestly |
| 17:00.06 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 17:00.10 | Dogmai | Its a brand new polished project |
| 17:00.17 | zenxu | and are you really comparing applestore to bnet now? |
| 17:00.20 | zenxu | T_t |
| 17:00.31 | Blizz-Deletarius | I'm comparing top games to top games |
| 17:00.38 | Blizz-Deletarius | saying |
| 17:00.41 | Blizz-Deletarius | you might think they're bad |
| 17:00.46 | Dogmai | If Tofu does not succeed then there is something wrong with the system |
| 17:00.47 | Blizz-Deletarius | and others may as well |
| 17:00.50 | zenxu | I dont think they are bad |
| 17:00.52 | Blizz-Deletarius | but |
| 17:00.58 | Blizz-Deletarius | they're the top 10 for a reason |
| 17:01.00 | zenxu | but do they still need to be on everypage? |
| 17:01.35 | Dogmai | Guys I love you |
| 17:01.41 | Blizz-Deletarius | goto bed |
| 17:01.42 | zenxu | I dont know what system would be best, but I think its something you would need to test it out |
| 17:01.50 | Taintedwisp | Yeah Top games is a failed thing.... Lets be honest the Custom community is dying due to that thing, it had its prospects when it was first placed, but its done little more then hurt, I think when bookmarks where added the top 10 list lost its place, now if you wanted a top 10 list just for analytics, so people can see then put one on the news feed or something |
| 17:02.11 | Blizz-Deletarius | tainted, not necessarily |
| 17:02.14 | zenxu | you could even try that refresh button |
| 17:02.26 | zenxu | maybe it would fix all things, maybe not |
| 17:02.30 | Blizz-Deletarius | again, I'm going to go with the apple store as a comparrisson here |
| 17:02.33 | Dogmai | damnit, why do you guys have the best conversations when I am leaving |
| 17:02.36 | Blizz-Deletarius | I just got an iPad |
| 17:02.45 | Blizz-Deletarius | and there's a ton of apps and games for the iPad |
| 17:02.48 | Dogmai | im really in the bad books now, turning off screen, night |
| 17:02.50 | Blizz-Deletarius | I want to go to a place |
| 17:02.55 | Blizz-Deletarius | where I can see |
| 17:02.56 | Blizz-Deletarius | ok |
| 17:03.00 | Blizz-Deletarius | what are the top games out there? |
| 17:03.09 | Blizz-Deletarius | what apps and games have stood the test of time |
| 17:03.11 | Blizz-Deletarius | to be the top? |
| 17:03.17 | Blizz-Deletarius | let me check those out |
| 17:03.25 | zenxu | dele, look at it this way |
| 17:03.27 | TheSkunk__ | I don't have any problem with the existence of the top 10, its just other areas that are lacking |
| 17:03.37 | zenxu | what do you think about bomberman, barcraft, smacraft etc.......... |
| 17:03.42 | zenxu | and if you cannot play them? |
| 17:03.44 | Blizz-Deletarius | then if I'm feeling more adventurous, I'll look for others |
| 17:03.55 | zenxu | I think bnet is wasting its potential |
| 17:04.04 | Blizz-Deletarius | bomberman is fun, barcraft can use some polish, but otherwise good, smashcraft never played |
| 17:04.11 | Taintedwisp | But there is one MAJOR difference with the App store and battle.net When searching battle.net your looking for 1 thing a game to play, when searching the app store, you are going to most often be looking for a differering need from the top 10 list. This is where the fail of the Battle.net top 10 comes into place because we are just looking for a quick game to play, whereas there you might be looking for music, emulators, maps, |
| 17:04.13 | Taintedwisp | balance |
| 17:04.21 | zenxu | dont you agree they are good maps? |
| 17:04.26 | zenxu | but still very hard to get players to |
| 17:04.34 | Taintedwisp | I think MOST of the featured maps are good |
| 17:04.44 | Blizz-Deletarius | not from where I'm concerned, but I have a different set of circumstances |
| 17:04.48 | Blizz-Deletarius | I play customs with friends |
| 17:04.51 | Blizz-Deletarius | that's it |
| 17:05.02 | Blizz-Deletarius | if I don't have friends to play with I play 1v1 |
| 17:05.16 | Blizz-Deletarius | I don't have a problem getting a game going of anything that I want to |
| 17:05.20 | Taintedwisp | I play customs for quick fun :P. Usually I break my fun down into 3 catagories, TD, Arena, or RPG |
| 17:05.22 | Blizz-Deletarius | because I have the friends to play with |
| 17:05.27 | Blizz-Deletarius | but that's me |
| 17:05.30 | Taintedwisp | wait... also mass attack |
| 17:05.43 | zenxu | I still think I made a good point |
| 17:05.47 | zenxu | why you should atleast TRY |
| 17:05.48 | zenxu | to improve |
| 17:05.53 | zenxu | instead of saying its perfect |
| 17:06.01 | Taintedwisp | But like I said with the app store there are hundreds of broad things to search for where as we only have like 3 -5 |
| 17:06.02 | Blizz-Deletarius | I'm not saying its perfect |
| 17:06.05 | zenxu | and Iv give you some options already |
| 17:06.15 | Taintedwisp | I just personally think thats where the main problem lies |
| 17:06.17 | Blizz-Deletarius | I also said earlier that we've been discussing for a while a bunch of different options and ideas internally |
| 17:06.22 | Taintedwisp | yeah I know :P |
| 17:06.29 | zenxu | well good |
| 17:06.41 | zenxu | It did seem like you think its good |
| 17:06.46 | zenxu | well |
| 17:06.46 | Taintedwisp | No i have no problem how blizz is handling it, and I am thankful that I am able to express my opinions :D |
| 17:06.53 | zenxu | you can say its pretty good... |
| 17:06.58 | Taintedwisp | 99% of the time with gaming companies you dont get to do that haha |
| 17:07.14 | zenxu | well Im dont with my talk now |
| 17:07.19 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 17:07.25 | Taintedwisp | Hey ill brb |
| 17:07.30 | Taintedwisp | Bout to go get some lunch |
| 17:18.17 | Zolden | you frightened duck with your blabbing! bastards! |
| 17:18.41 | Zolden | none of you is a good hunt companion |
| 17:19.16 | Zolden | u'd all die pretty fast in an postapocaliptic world where hunt is the only source of food |
| 17:21.37 | Ahli | is there a way I can make the "Birds" doodad not generate a static shadow in terrain module? |
| 17:23.30 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 17:23.46 | Taintedwisp | zolden id be fine i have over 5 guns and 1k rounds of ammo... |
| 17:23.48 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 17:24.15 | Ahli | static shadows generates a black dot at my bridge, too... but only at once and I don't know why =/ |
| 17:30.48 | Taintedwisp | i t got sooo quiet |
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| 17:50.33 | Bibendus | mmm |
| 17:50.38 | Bibendus | i have to fix a problem |
| 17:50.49 | Bibendus | i need to rotate actors of type model |
| 17:50.53 | Bibendus | with an actor message |
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| 17:51.37 | Bibendus | however the rotation causes the ... specular map I think to reflect from different directions |
| 17:52.18 | Ahli | did you try that with different units? |
| 17:52.20 | Bibendus | using units don't cause the same issue |
| 17:52.27 | Bibendus | using only actors |
| 17:52.34 | Ahli | different models I mean |
| 17:52.46 | Ahli | like a model of a marine for example |
| 17:53.09 | Bibendus | I dont think I need it |
| 17:53.16 | Bibendus | the problem is to find the correct rotation message |
| 17:53.55 | Bibendus | i m using change rotationhttps://dl.dropbox.com/u/42948506/Screenshot2012-12-30%2020_24_11.jpg |
| 17:54.03 | Bibendus | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/42948506/Screenshot2012-12-30%2020_24_11.jpg |
| 17:54.35 | Bibendus | i m using the message |
| 17:54.37 | Bibendus | set rotation |
| 17:54.47 | Ahli | oh, I see... |
| 17:55.11 | Bibendus | however there is a UP vector I dont know dafuq is |
| 17:55.44 | Bibendus | it takes a forward vector and a up vector |
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| 17:57.36 | Bibendus | ahli did u ever try to rotate by actor message? |
| 17:57.55 | ckSynergy | does anyone here understand how a geyser works? in that, you can place it in the editor, and when you place a extractor/refinery/etc and its destroyed it creates a geyser in it's place? |
| 17:58.55 | Ahli | hmm, no, only by site operations |
| 17:59.06 | Ahli | *via |
| 17:59.17 | Bibendus | mm |
| 17:59.23 | Bibendus | can I apply a site op by actor message |
| 17:59.25 | Bibendus | of course I can |
| 18:00.20 | Bibendus | wait i try to apply the same model to units |
| 18:00.45 | Bibendus | ! |
| 18:00.49 | Bibendus | rotation changes the specular |
| 18:00.51 | Bibendus | even with units |
| 18:01.59 | Bibendus | k so it's not the rotation fault |
| 18:02.41 | Bibendus | I mean |
| 18:02.55 | Renee__ | @ckSynergy: The geyser is still there. Just be hide under the ground. |
| 18:02.58 | Bibendus | not the actor message fault |
| 18:05.18 | zenxu | not too bad |
| 18:05.27 | zenxu | first game of dota 2 9 - 7 - 14 |
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| 18:05.56 | Bibendus | probably against lot of noobs :D |
| 18:06.15 | Taintedwisp | Dota 2 sucks!!!!!! |
| 18:06.16 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 18:06.24 | zenxu | it was suprisingly fun |
| 18:06.27 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 18:06.35 | zenxu | it does some time to get back to the stuff thou |
| 18:06.43 | zenxu | like shopping I was like hmm...how |
| 18:06.43 | zenxu | :D |
| 18:08.45 | Renee__ | Is the western still in the Christmas holidays? Didn't see many people in custom map forum or in sc2mapster.com |
| 18:10.12 | Taintedwisp | nope :P |
| 18:10.22 | Taintedwisp | I just havent been flooding them the past few days |
| 18:10.34 | Taintedwisp | People are playing with their new toys, give it another week or 2 and everyone will come back |
| 18:10.35 | Renee__ | hmmmm |
| 18:10.36 | Ahli | my university continues next week... (I believe :D) |
| 18:11.02 | zenxu | lets go for more dota2 |
| 18:11.04 | Taintedwisp | < Already beat AC3, wtcher 2, now just for mass effect 3 :P |
| 18:11.04 | zenxu | bithcees |
| 18:11.16 | zenxu | bb |
| 18:13.13 | Renee__ | Just a short announce for my new project: Just Another Warcraft III Replica. Not sure if it can be finished in this year though. |
| 18:14.49 | Zolden | Renee replica of one of wc3 custom maps or the game itself? |
| 18:16.07 | Ahli | you actually make maps beside crazy mods and discover awesome things in the editor? |
| 18:16.34 | Ahli | *besides *discovering |
| 18:16.36 | Renee__ | Well, the game. Every units abilities buffs effects updates sounds pathtextures models etc |
| 18:17.26 | Taintedwisp | Is that the War4craft one? |
| 18:17.55 | Zolden | Renee original wc3 models? or wow models? or created? |
| 18:17.57 | Taintedwisp | Yo Renee_ your a data editor right? |
| 18:17.57 | Renee__ | nope, i didn't annouced it on western sites yet |
| 18:18.38 | Renee__ | and a trigger editor and a ui editor :) |
| 18:18.43 | Taintedwisp | damn |
| 18:18.53 | Taintedwisp | Tryin to find someone who can help, i have a game breaking bug :P |
| 18:19.07 | Taintedwisp | welll.... upgrade system breaking |
| 18:19.51 | Taintedwisp | Wtf... |
| 18:20.01 | Taintedwisp | Sooo Appearently youtube now auto monetizes videos... |
| 18:20.02 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=dOlmEFC7OsA |
| 18:20.03 | Taintedwisp | lame |
| 18:20.09 | Taintedwisp | I didnt want that yellow popup thing... |
| 18:20.13 | Taintedwisp | but yeah thats the bug :P |
| 18:20.17 | Taintedwisp | Its a pretty strange one |
| 18:20.18 | Taintedwisp | hh |
| 18:20.34 | Taintedwisp | Random energy is lost when I use an upgrade :P |
| 18:20.50 | Taintedwisp | Guess ill wait for DeadZergling to get online and see if he can help out |
| 18:21.43 | Ahli | can a player have multiple instances of a single hero type at once? if no, trigger it. |
| 18:21.45 | Renee__ | I also deside to add casting spell via clicking the group icons and portrait feature. Just not sure if it would significantly affect the game performance. It need lots of triggers |
| 18:22.47 | Taintedwisp | ahh |
| 18:22.58 | Taintedwisp | I would rather not use triggers for it |
| 18:23.17 | Taintedwisp | :P I know very few triggers, so I try to do the vast majority in data |
| 18:25.08 | Renee__ | @Zolden: As the models. I find a model creator for me to create these assets. It would based on wow models, but have some modifications. |
| 18:26.32 | Renee__ | But I had not made the final decision. Still hope there would be a offical WC assets Mod. |
| 18:27.22 | Renee__ | Cause if I use custom models, this mod would be to large to be uploaded to the bn |
| 18:29.33 | Renee__ | Current, I creating everything without models. It's not good to see a lot of spheres bettle to each other :( |
| 18:29.46 | Bibendus | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/artist-tavern/47084-problem-with-specular-map-and-actor-rotation/#p1 |
| 18:29.47 | Ahli | :D |
| 18:29.53 | Bibendus | Zolden! |
| 18:30.12 | Renee__ | @Taintedwisp: Can't see youtube :( |
| 18:30.26 | Bibendus | its laggin a lot these days |
| 18:31.50 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 18:32.54 | Taintedwisp | well what it does renee, is When i use the upgrade I made(its simple only affects 1 buff in 1 field) If the energy on the unit is full then it works perfectly, but if even 1 point of energy is gone, then it drains a ton of energy at random amount.... |
| 18:33.10 | Taintedwisp | There is no cost set anywhere, so it SHOULDNT drain any vitals |
| 18:34.33 | Renee__ | Well, if the buff would modify the MaxVital, then such things may happen. |
| 18:35.05 | Blizz-Deletarius | Renee |
| 18:35.11 | Blizz-Deletarius | good luck on the WC3 remake haha |
| 18:35.18 | Renee__ | :) thanks |
| 18:35.32 | Zolden | Bibendus: yea? |
| 18:36.22 | Taintedwisp | Renee Finishes... 1 week later, blizzard comes out with an entire Wc3 mod MWAHAHAHA |
| 18:36.24 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 18:36.26 | Taintedwisp | that would be screwed up |
| 18:37.27 | Ahli | Blizz-Deletarius: is there a way to check for trigger errors in a replay? |
| 18:38.28 | Bibendus | zolden link |
| 18:38.30 | Ahli | afk |
| 18:38.38 | Zolden | yea |
| 18:38.38 | Renee__ | Well it would be good if such thing happens. Actually I create this mod for bring in WC theme into sc2, for improve the community. So it can only be better if we have a offical one. |
| 18:38.47 | Bibendus | why did you yea :D |
| 18:39.00 | Zolden | Renee__: waht about the models you going to use? |
| 18:39.25 | Blizz-Deletarius | Ahli, I don't know. I just tried doing it myself and got an access violation/assert/crash |
| 18:39.37 | Bibendus | Blizz-Deletarius: do you know something about specular maps and possible issues with rotations? |
| 18:39.46 | Blizz-Deletarius | I don't, sorry |
| 18:40.02 | Renee__ | Still waiting for Startools to create bridges. Currently, 3-rd plug-ins can't create walkable physics body. |
| 18:40.09 | Bibendus | bring me a blizz engine modeler then :D |
| 18:40.39 | Renee__ | @Zolden: As the models. I find a model creator for me to create these assets. It would based on wow models, but have some modifications. |
| 18:40.50 | Bibendus | Blizz-Deletarius look this: http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/1770/specularissue.jpg |
| 18:41.13 | Bibendus | rotating actors changes the specular angle |
| 18:41.21 | Bibendus | while it should change only by camera position |
| 18:41.26 | Blizz-Deletarius | hmm |
| 18:41.37 | Bibendus | these tiles are rotated by random 90° |
| 18:41.38 | Blizz-Deletarius | so it's a local specular rather than a global? |
| 18:41.41 | Bibendus | ye |
| 18:41.45 | Blizz-Deletarius | interesting |
| 18:41.52 | Bibendus | could it be a bug? :O |
| 18:41.55 | Blizz-Deletarius | uhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 18:41.57 | Blizz-Deletarius | mmmmmmmmmmaybe |
| 18:42.01 | Bibendus | lol |
| 18:42.13 | Bibendus | isn't there a magic actor flag |
| 18:42.13 | Renee__ | good, I can't even see imageshacks now. Last week, I can still open this site |
| 18:42.16 | Bibendus | that changes how it works? |
| 18:42.19 | Blizz-Deletarius | lemme ask one of our tech artists |
| 18:42.25 | Bibendus | tx <3 |
| 18:43.11 | Zolden | Renee__: I hope the models will have normal/specular maps |
| 18:43.27 | Zolden | otherwise they won't look too good |
| 18:43.32 | Zolden | Bibendus: answered |
| 18:43.36 | Bibendus | guys do you think theer are some bandwidth issues |
| 18:43.39 | Zolden | try what I suggested |
| 18:43.42 | Bibendus | tx |
| 18:43.47 | Bibendus | bandwidth issues with US? |
| 18:43.51 | Zolden | I still think that problems is within your model |
| 18:44.00 | Renee__ | Zolden: Yes of course |
| 18:46.07 | Blizz-Deletarius | k, bibendus |
| 18:46.22 | Bibendus | tell me :P |
| 18:46.22 | Zolden | Renee__: ok, after your modeller make some models, let he publish screens on mapsters, it's a bit tricky area, and I can give some advices |
| 18:46.25 | Blizz-Deletarius | so the spec maps are both spec and gloss based on lights |
| 18:46.40 | Blizz-Deletarius | if they're terrain, then it has to be a spec as we don't support reflection on terrain shaders |
| 18:46.40 | Renee__ | Thanks, Zolden |
| 18:47.09 | Blizz-Deletarius | make sense? |
| 18:47.13 | Bibendus | it shouldn't be a terrain shader |
| 18:47.20 | Bibendus | zolden can you translate? |
| 18:47.27 | Bibendus | :D |
| 18:47.30 | Zolden | Translate what? |
| 18:47.39 | Bibendus | what deletarius said |
| 18:47.44 | Bibendus | too 3d thingy |
| 18:48.17 | Taintedwisp | Hes just saying specular maps are for gloss/shine |
| 18:48.27 | Zolden | nothing u care about |
| 18:48.29 | Taintedwisp | and that terrain doesn support reflection in its shaders |
| 18:48.43 | Zolden | jsut try my model and normal |
| 18:48.47 | Bibendus | ok but is it related to the specular issue with rotation? |
| 18:48.49 | Bibendus | i m loading zolden |
| 18:49.06 | Bibendus | white |
| 18:49.09 | Bibendus | with different colors |
| 18:49.12 | Bibendus | with different colors |
| 18:49.34 | Bibendus | but only 2 types |
| 18:50.04 | Zolden | specular maps has nothing to do with rotation |
| 18:50.11 | Bibendus | it shouldnt... |
| 18:50.21 | Zolden | you must only be sure that your model has normals resetted |
| 18:50.22 | Bibendus | but how do you explain that? |
| 18:50.34 | Zolden | then it will be rotated without any visual issues |
| 18:50.47 | Zolden | i'll be afk 15 minutes |
| 18:50.50 | Bibendus | wait |
| 18:50.52 | Bibendus | i m uploading |
| 18:51.01 | Renee__ | Blizz-Deletarius: Is there any date ways to make sure the portait actor always have the same team colors as its unit? I configed the PortraitActor to make it awalys inhert the ::PortraitGameUnit's teamcolor property. Seems not work. So I have to use triggers to set the Portait team color everytime. |
| 18:52.11 | Bibendus | zolden http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/4350/screenshot2013010320024.jpg |
| 18:53.00 | Blizz-Deletarius | Renee, let me ask Artestru |
| 18:53.10 | Renee__ | Thanks :) |
| 18:53.12 | Bibendus | show him my screen too deletarius |
| 18:53.16 | Bibendus | the previous one |
| 18:53.27 | Bibendus | img600.imageshack.us/img600/1770/specularissue.jpg |
| 18:53.35 | Zolden | Bibendus: ok, nwm, i'll get back soon, and solve your problem |
| 18:53.36 | Bibendus | because the answer before didn't make a lot of sense to me |
| 18:53.39 | Repo | New map: Char Valley Revised - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/char-valley-revised/ |
| 18:53.39 | Zolden | jsut wait |
| 18:53.51 | Bibendus | kk <3 |
| 18:53.57 | Taintedwisp | http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Terrain090_zps3f08c088.jpg |
| 18:53.59 | Taintedwisp | :D |
| 18:54.05 | Taintedwisp | What you guys think |
| 18:54.06 | Blizz-Deletarius | Renee, the person that would know is afk at the moment |
| 18:54.15 | Renee__ | fine |
| 18:54.24 | Blizz-Deletarius | I sent him a message though |
| 18:54.33 | Renee__ | :) thanks |
| 18:54.33 | Blizz-Deletarius | I'll see about getting a response when he returns |
| 18:54.35 | Blizz-Deletarius | :) |
| 18:54.36 | Blizz-Deletarius | np |
| 18:54.50 | Taintedwisp | http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Terrain089_zpsbb096811.jpg |
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| 19:00.56 | Taintedwisp | no one likes my frozen CC :( |
| 19:01.20 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 19:01.22 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 19:01.50 | Exaken|2 | It is supposed to be frozen? |
| 19:01.58 | Renee__ | Bibendus: What is your issue? I can't see imageshacks & youtube so I don't quite understand |
| 19:02.30 | Renee__ | I downloaded your model in the sc2mapster forum, and it doesn't see any rotation issue |
| 19:02.48 | Bibendus | mmm |
| 19:02.53 | Bibendus | rotating actors |
| 19:03.00 | Bibendus | cause the specular map to behave differently |
| 19:03.26 | Bibendus | as a result rotating cubes by 90° horizontally |
| 19:03.40 | Bibendus | causes them to have different light colors |
| 19:04.09 | Bibendus | oh and i have this |
| 19:04.10 | Bibendus | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/42948506/Screenshot2012-12-30%2020_24_11.jpg |
| 19:04.14 | Bibendus | on dropbox Renee__ |
| 19:04.15 | Taintedwisp | Yo Deletarius you should follow https://twitter.com/WhatTheFFacts haha, a good laugh or two daily |
| 19:05.18 | Taintedwisp | Back in 2003, French scientists predicted that bananas will be extinct by 2013. |
| 19:05.20 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:05.59 | Ahli | oh god, hots beta is latency hell again... I wish their test would be repeated now... |
| 19:06.37 | Blizz-Deletarius | Tainted, my twitter is only for starcraft things :) |
| 19:07.19 | Blizz-Deletarius | it's one of the things that I've decided about it |
| 19:07.37 | Renee__ | Ok, dropbox doesn't work for me either.I give up |
| 19:08.06 | Taintedwisp | :( |
| 19:08.07 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:08.22 | Dustin|Work | What do you mean drropbox doesnt work for you? |
| 19:08.34 | Ahli | I can change game speed in hots beta in my arcade game... |
| 19:08.54 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwXKR9EWhXo Still sounds better then beiber.... |
| 19:09.28 | Ahli | seems like I can't force it to always be played on faster except for spamming the speed via trigger. |
| 19:09.56 | Dustin|Work | Yes you can |
| 19:10.18 | Dustin|Work | Wait, can you change the speed ingame? |
| 19:11.21 | Zolden | Ok, Bibendus |
| 19:11.43 | Zolden | i'll give you another model |
| 19:11.47 | Ahli | yes.... :S |
| 19:11.49 | Zolden | waht texture path do you use>? |
| 19:11.59 | Taintedwisp | I completely support hatebeak now.... completely |
| 19:12.00 | Ahli | hots, privatly hosted game... it has bnet lag |
| 19:12.09 | Renee__ | Working for console of my WC3 mod. http://bbs.islga.org/data/attachment/forum/201301/04/030733eenv5j09gpwngw9n.jpg |
| 19:12.32 | Bibendus | kk |
| 19:12.33 | Zolden | Renee__: pretty nice |
| 19:12.36 | Bibendus | standard |
| 19:12.44 | Zolden | assets/textures? |
| 19:12.47 | Bibendus | assets |
| 19:12.48 | Bibendus | textures |
| 19:12.50 | Zolden | ok |
| 19:12.54 | Bibendus | and assets/models? |
| 19:13.37 | Taintedwisp | nice |
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| 19:13.43 | ckSynergy | oh snap its renee lol |
| 19:13.50 | Taintedwisp | Yo Deletarius that reminds me, There is a major problem with customs on HoTS :P |
| 19:14.04 | Taintedwisp | Simple Command Cards Break 95% of custom maps |
| 19:14.26 | Taintedwisp | I hope blizz decides to remove simple command cards from arcade maps |
| 19:15.10 | Taintedwisp | In my map atleast, if a player has Simple command cards on, he cant use any of his abilities nor level up his hero, so I am guessing it will be the same in others |
| 19:15.17 | ckSynergy | Hey renee, you've played with dialot portraits/unit models right? Ever find a way to eliminate the 0.0625-2s lag? Preloading perhaps? |
| 19:15.31 | Dustin|Work | Simple command cards are a bad idea in general |
| 19:15.54 | Dustin|Work | I dont see how taking information away from a player helps them learn when the ammount of information doesnt really change |
| 19:16.15 | Renee__ | I belive you can turn off simple command cards by uncheck "Hides For Simple Text" flag |
| 19:16.46 | Renee__ | But yeah, I think it would be better to have a trigger action to allow you turn off this setting |
| 19:16.56 | Renee__ | just like the flyer-helper one |
| 19:17.25 | Taintedwisp | Yeah they are dustin :P, but some players (much much younger players) want them |
| 19:17.35 | Dustin|Work | I dont see why |
| 19:17.38 | Taintedwisp | They seem to be more for little kids who will never build more then 1 barracks |
| 19:17.44 | Taintedwisp | Because all they will do is A move anyways |
| 19:17.45 | Taintedwisp | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:18.22 | Renee__ | Plus, a new trigger to forcely turn on/off enemy unit selection would be great. |
| 19:18.54 | Taintedwisp | But I have no problem with them being an alternate option, but they need to be disabled for Arcade maps, because if a player has it on, then he cant play the maps well atleast not a lot of them |
| 19:19.39 | Renee__ | ckSynergy: For portaits, you can turn off Transition to remove the delay. |
| 19:19.53 | Taintedwisp | and then i am afriad if little timmy cant play the map he will go give a bogus review, and our stats may drop |
| 19:19.59 | Renee__ | I didn't see similar setting for unit models though |
| 19:20.15 | Taintedwisp | and on an open games list where that shows(I have no idea why it shows there... err), but where it shows those stars actually greatly matter |
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| 19:21.44 | Zolden | Bibendus: |
| 19:21.45 | Bibendus | dafuq irc crash |
| 19:21.48 | Zolden | take this http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/34/640/dk_rock_.rar |
| 19:21.53 | ckSynergy | Renee: you're still left with a 0.0625s delay though |
| 19:21.56 | ckSynergy | at least, last I checked |
| 19:22.04 | Zolden | put textures into assets/textures |
| 19:22.54 | Bibendus | mm |
| 19:22.58 | Bibendus | why did u do it with the rock |
| 19:23.01 | Bibendus | and not dirt? :P |
| 19:23.08 | Bibendus | should I keep them separated? |
| 19:23.28 | Bibendus | and do I need to load the white32 too? |
| 19:23.34 | Bibendus | Zolden |
| 19:23.47 | Zolden | oyu need to have the textures in assets/textures |
| 19:23.56 | Bibendus | ofc but |
| 19:24.06 | Bibendus | before you edited the dirt model/texture |
| 19:24.07 | Zolden | we're just testing thing |
| 19:24.13 | Bibendus | why did u send me the rock one now? |
| 19:24.16 | Zolden | i can do it to any texture |
| 19:24.25 | Bibendus | I know |
| 19:24.33 | Zolden | i took the one you gave me a nice normal for |
| 19:24.35 | Bibendus | but did u do it intentionally |
| 19:24.36 | Bibendus | or randomly |
| 19:24.39 | Bibendus | k |
| 19:24.49 | Zolden | i had no other cool normals |
| 19:25.07 | Ahli | well, maybe there is a flag that isn't shown in the editor... |
| 19:25.15 | Ahli | for simple command cards |
| 19:25.34 | Bibendus | k started testing |
| 19:25.45 | Bibendus | please wait few hours :D |
| 19:25.54 | Dustin|Work | Bibendus, |
| 19:25.59 | Zolden | Bibendus: it should look like this if pathes are right http://snag.gy/Ik2Mm.jpg |
| 19:26.00 | Dustin|Work | Stop being a dickbag! |
| 19:26.10 | Ahli | They removed it for planetary fortress (I complained :D)... I don't expect them to hardcode that |
| 19:27.26 | Bibendus | why dustin |
| 19:27.59 | Bibendus | shit I have to take a shower |
| 19:28.03 | Bibendus | i smell like a horse |
| 19:28.04 | Ahli | if I enable trigger debug window with triggers and an error happens, will it show it? |
| 19:28.14 | Zolden | Bibendus: show the screen first |
| 19:28.16 | Zolden | i'm curious |
| 19:28.22 | Renee__ | Yes, there is a flag in editor |
| 19:28.23 | Bibendus | yy |
| 19:28.28 | Bibendus | its loading :D |
| 19:28.35 | Ahli | I don't mean in editor |
| 19:28.41 | Ahli | the trigger action |
| 19:28.55 | Dustin|Work | Cause I said!~ |
| 19:29.27 | Taintedwisp | Oh so there is a flag to disable it in the editor for that map? nice, that helps me, but it will still hurt many inactive peoples stuffs :P and noobs stuffs haha |
| 19:29.34 | Bibendus | k |
| 19:29.36 | Bibendus | zolden |
| 19:29.43 | Renee__ | What error happens? |
| 19:29.43 | Bibendus | the weird normal is shown only from vertical view |
| 19:30.11 | Zolden | first, show my how the model look in prerview model window |
| 19:30.24 | Zolden | i want to be sure that it look like this http://snag.gy/Ik2Mm.jpg |
| 19:32.20 | Bibendus | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/42948506/Import%20001.jpg |
| 19:33.35 | Ahli | "6579 USER: [2173 5] CActorUnit[bbbSkeletonCaptainUnit]" very informative... |
| 19:33.35 | Bibendus | and no |
| 19:33.42 | Bibendus | the specular is still fucked |
| 19:33.51 | Bibendus | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/42948506/Screenshot2013-01-03%2020_46_15.jpg |
| 19:34.02 | Renee__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:34.20 | Bibendus | zolden images are up now |
| 19:34.32 | Renee__ | set this to 0 would display the buttons |
| 19:34.36 | Zolden | white32 is missing, isn't it? |
| 19:34.44 | Renee__ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:34.59 | Bibendus | i didint reupload it |
| 19:35.03 | Bibendus | that's why I asked u to add it |
| 19:35.08 | Bibendus | if I have to add it |
| 19:35.09 | Bibendus | sry |
| 19:35.23 | Bibendus | do I have to replace the white32 with yours or not zolden? |
| 19:35.32 | Zolden | THe second screen say everything is fine |
| 19:35.40 | Bibendus | no! |
| 19:35.44 | Bibendus | don't you see |
| 19:35.45 | Zolden | you just need to make better normal |
| 19:35.49 | Bibendus | that tiles have different angles? |
| 19:35.58 | Bibendus | they should look all the same |
| 19:36.19 | Zolden | everything is fine here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/42948506/Screenshot2013-01-03%2020_46_15.jpg |
| 19:36.33 | Zolden | your texture isn't monotoneous |
| 19:36.42 | Bibendus | noope |
| 19:36.42 | Zolden | you maed normal from diffuse |
| 19:36.48 | Bibendus | believe me |
| 19:36.52 | Bibendus | changing camera I clearly see |
| 19:36.56 | Zolden | so, there is a little difference in how it look on different angles |
| 19:37.01 | Bibendus | that the specular is enlighten differently |
| 19:37.03 | Bibendus | changing angles |
| 19:37.08 | Bibendus | it's the same issue |
| 19:37.16 | Zolden | you can't change it, you can only use mono-color or symmetric diffuse |
| 19:37.18 | Bibendus | you see it less because of the normal |
| 19:37.56 | Bibendus | really |
| 19:38.06 | Bibendus | the specular is acting differently |
| 19:38.10 | Bibendus | like with the old textures |
| 19:38.27 | Zolden | oh please |
| 19:38.30 | Zolden | it's fucking ok |
| 19:38.44 | Zolden | your "issue" pics has problems |
| 19:38.45 | Bibendus | nopeeeee |
| 19:38.54 | Bibendus | i see the separations by light |
| 19:38.56 | Zolden | ok, look |
| 19:39.06 | Zolden | use the .m3 i gave you |
| 19:39.13 | Zolden | and apply plane normal |
| 19:39.15 | Zolden | ok? |
| 19:39.20 | Zolden | and use it |
| 19:39.29 | Zolden | adn you'll see that specular look the same |
| 19:39.29 | Bibendus | plane normal |
| 19:39.32 | Bibendus | so i replace it with? |
| 19:39.35 | Zolden | and show me the screen of it |
| 19:39.39 | Zolden | yea |
| 19:39.56 | Zolden | replace it with the monotoneous normal |
| 19:40.00 | Zolden | like ndo creates |
| 19:40.03 | Zolden | with no details |
| 19:40.17 | Bibendus | can i replace it with my old one |
| 19:40.18 | Zolden | but orange |
| 19:40.19 | Bibendus | btw |
| 19:40.20 | Bibendus | look this |
| 19:40.21 | Bibendus | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/42948506/Screenshot2013-01-03%2020_52_38.jpg |
| 19:40.26 | Bibendus | here you can clearly see it |
| 19:40.31 | Bibendus | i ll remove the normal |
| 19:40.34 | Bibendus | and you ll see |
| 19:40.59 | Zolden | it's you who will see |
| 19:41.11 | Bibendus | i want to get rid of the local diffuse |
| 19:41.11 | Zolden | the normal makes em look different |
| 19:41.14 | Bibendus | it's really visible |
| 19:41.16 | Bibendus | while moving the camera |
| 19:41.20 | Bibendus | it's not me.. |
| 19:41.36 | Bibendus | i have to get rid of this local diffuse... there must be a way |
| 19:41.38 | Zolden | ok, go apply plane normal, not your old, but perfectly monotoneous |
| 19:43.47 | Bibendus | mm I think I had the wrong normal |
| 19:43.48 | Bibendus | btw |
| 19:43.50 | Bibendus | the old one |
| 19:43.55 | Bibendus | not the more beautiful |
| 19:44.18 | Bibendus | ah no |
| 19:44.21 | Bibendus | it was the right one |
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| 19:47.20 | Bibendus | k zolden starting test, in the meanwhile i ll take a shower |
| 19:47.28 | Zolden | ok |
| 20:01.39 | Bibendus | zolden https://dl.dropbox.com/u/42948506/Screenshot2013-01-03%2021_13_56.jpg |
| 20:02.22 | Zolden | what is it? |
| 20:02.41 | Bibendus | linear normal |
| 20:02.47 | Zolden | same model? |
| 20:03.15 | Bibendus | y |
| 20:03.17 | Bibendus | just changed normal |
| 20:03.20 | Bibendus | from previous screen |
| 20:03.27 | Bibendus | the specular is doing crazy as usual |
| 20:03.39 | Bibendus | i m trying with different lights too |
| 20:04.47 | ckSynergy | can I get some guidance please? |
| 20:05.11 | ckSynergy | I need to know which mover to look into to accomplish this missile trajectory |
| 20:05.12 | ckSynergy | http://i.imgur.com/dUIvj.jpg |
| 20:06.25 | Zolden | it's a ballistic mover |
| 20:06.41 | Zolden | but you have to aim point instead of target |
| 20:06.42 | ckSynergy | ah, but arent ballistics 2D space only? |
| 20:07.00 | ckSynergy | yea, this targets a (moving) unit, not a point |
| 20:07.05 | Zolden | it can't pursue and will act weired in case it miss its moving unit target |
| 20:07.23 | Zolden | how can mover be 2d? |
| 20:07.39 | ckSynergy | basicallitics are typically 2d right? |
| 20:07.40 | Zolden | movers lead missiles in 3d space |
| 20:07.49 | Zolden | ballistics do what you mainted |
| 20:08.03 | Bibendus | I think the spore cannon |
| 20:08.05 | Bibendus | uses a missile like that |
| 20:08.28 | Zolden | ballistic mover is simple, just set speed and gravity |
| 20:08.59 | Zolden | bibendus, i give up, model shouldn't look different, and i dunno why it does |
| 20:09.28 | ckSynergy | Zolden: ballistic does not work for what I need. |
| 20:09.33 | Bibendus | deletarius said something about |
| 20:09.37 | Bibendus | local and global specular |
| 20:09.50 | Bibendus | can u copy paste what he said before? |
| 20:09.53 | Bibendus | my irc crashed |
| 20:09.57 | ckSynergy | Yes, the trajectory is the same as a ballistic, but a ballistic does not seek a target. it simply aims at a point in 2d space |
| 20:10.25 | Ahli | I love the back and forth buttons in trigger editor :D |
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| 20:11.30 | ckSynergy | so, next mover recommendation? |
| 20:11.42 | Zolden | [22:46] <Blizz-Deletarius> so the spec maps are both spec and gloss based on lights |
| 20:11.47 | Zolden | [22:47] <Blizz-Deletarius> if they're terrain, then it has to be a spec as we don't support reflection on terrain shaders |
| 20:12.47 | Bibendus | tx |
| 20:13.30 | Bibendus | o do you know what he was trying to say? |
| 20:13.46 | Zolden | spec map is all we have |
| 20:13.52 | Bibendus | ok |
| 20:13.54 | Bibendus | he said something |
| 20:13.55 | Zolden | even if you use it for terrain |
| 20:13.58 | Bibendus | few rows before |
| 20:14.06 | Bibendus | about local and global |
| 20:14.09 | Bibendus | specular |
| 20:14.53 | Zolden | [22:42] <Blizz-Deletarius> so it's a local specular rather than a global? |
| 20:15.00 | Bibendus | ye |
| 20:15.04 | Zolden | then he said i'll ask artist guys |
| 20:15.18 | Bibendus | ye |
| 20:15.25 | Bibendus | tenarsis should be that guy |
| 20:15.32 | Bibendus | he knows everything about the editor |
| 20:18.21 | Bibendus | so do you think the answer deletarius is somehow related to what I asked |
| 20:18.26 | Bibendus | because it doesn't seem so :P |
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| 20:19.34 | mille25 | hi |
| 20:21.02 | Bibendus | hey mille |
| 20:21.57 | Zolden | I think what dele said isn't related to your problem |
| 20:22.06 | Zolden | but i may be wrong |
| 20:22.08 | Bibendus | ye :| |
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| 20:22.43 | Bibendus | otixa! :D |
| 20:22.47 | Otixa | hai2u2 ;p |
| 20:23.01 | Bibendus | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/artist-tavern/47084-problem-with-specular-map-and-actor-rotation/#p2 |
| 20:23.10 | Bibendus | me anz zolden fought again |
| 20:23.13 | Bibendus | against the speculars! |
| 20:23.40 | Bibendus | we didnt' find a way to fix it |
| 20:24.19 | Otixa | hrm? |
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| 20:25.13 | Otixa | Did you use a proper specular map? |
| 20:26.03 | Otixa | And if so, convert me that texture you're using for the creep to tga and link |
| 20:26.12 | Otixa | 32bit |
| 20:26.28 | Otixa | the normal map, that is |
| 20:26.38 | Otixa | and the normal map you're using for your shit aswell |
| 20:27.17 | Bibendus | oh damn i haz guests |
| 20:27.19 | Bibendus | :( |
| 20:27.21 | Bibendus | we ll talk later :P |
| 20:27.24 | Bibendus | cta ;D |
| 20:27.33 | Bibendus | cya |
| 20:29.44 | Zolden | Otixa: ndo rapes butts |
| 20:29.51 | Otixa | derp |
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| 21:02.06 | Ahli | http://snag.gy/uFX0n.jpg sockets and gems... and otixa's potion models |
| 21:02.39 | Otixa | neat |
| 21:03.07 | Zolden | yea, nice |
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| 21:07.29 | Dustin|Work | nnice ahlie! |
| 21:10.10 | Ahli | I only need to add drops and an UI to level gems... I guess I will use D3's approach... witch or blacksmith, who should do it? |
| 21:10.41 | Ahli | http://snag.gy/PKFq0.jpg that's how the gem tooltip looks like |
| 21:14.37 | Zolden | good, but I'd paint numbers in colors |
| 21:15.01 | Zolden | like damage to red, armor, blue, stats to some colors too |
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| 21:17.16 | Ahli | hmm, I'm to lazy to edit 35 description texts now |
| 21:17.56 | Zolden | aren't gems random? |
| 21:18.04 | Ahli | random? |
| 21:18.18 | Zolden | random bonuses |
| 21:18.42 | Zolden | probably not, since you mentioned 35 |
| 21:18.56 | Ahli | no. currently I have no support for random stats in gems |
| 21:19.08 | Ahli | I might add it in case I add jewels |
| 21:19.38 | Zolden | in case of random thing u'd have less to edit |
| 21:20.16 | Zolden | u'd probably have color variables for the dynamic tip generator trigger |
| 21:25.20 | Ahli | my tooltips are created in a huge function. But for some items most info is created via my description field. uniques contain a small amount of lore and healing potions say that they refill some life. |
| 21:26.30 | Ahli | D2 adds "Socketed" as a name prefix to the item, if it has only a suffix or is a normal item, right? |
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| 21:27.09 | Zolden | dunno |
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| 21:40.26 | Blizz-Deletarius | back |
| 21:40.29 | Blizz-Deletarius | sorry, was at lunch |
| 21:40.45 | TheSkunk__ | WB delete :D |
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| 21:48.51 | Ahli | screenshot with name incoming: http://snag.gy/uc8Eu.jpg socketed is shown for white, blues without prefix and uniques. |
| 21:50.00 | Zolden | text tag or text actor? |
| 21:50.23 | Dustin|Work | very nice sir |
| 21:50.58 | mille25 | ahli, i think your ui would really benefit from higher-res assets |
| 21:51.14 | mille25 | its really well made but the low res images hurt me :D |
| 21:51.43 | Ahli | be hurt enough to make the assets high res |
| 21:51.47 | Ahli | *whip* |
| 21:52.14 | mille25 | isnt it allowed to use d3 assets? (isnt the panel at the bottom from d3?) |
| 21:52.55 | Ahli | I think D3 assets are worse than D1's ones |
| 21:53.12 | mille25 | huh? |
| 21:53.34 | Dustin|Work | You shoulda used all d2 graphics |
| 21:57.35 | Zolden | Otixa: r u here? |
| 22:00.14 | Ahli | D2 graphics all have a strange border around them |
| 22:00.41 | Ahli | http://snag.gy/dl475.jpg |
| 22:06.48 | Creation25 | Blizz-Deletarius you didn't by chance get my PM did you? |
| 22:08.16 | Ahli | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/3595577515?page=2#22 seems like that open lobbies are hard to find for that person |
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| 22:15.07 | Blizz-Deletarius | yea I did, sorry |
| 22:15.23 | Blizz-Deletarius | was pwning newbs on the KR ladder when you sent it |
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| 22:39.20 | Otixa | Zolden, no |
| 22:39.30 | Otixa | Blizz-Deletarius, happy new year, you sockmuffin |
| 22:39.55 | Dustin|Work | Dele, why do you play on the KR server? |
| 22:44.56 | Blizz-Deletarius | why? |
| 22:45.02 | Zolden | Otixa, should I convert before using presets? |
| 22:45.03 | Blizz-Deletarius | because that's where all of the best players are |
| 22:45.10 | Blizz-Deletarius | if I want to get better, I want to play vs them |
| 22:45.18 | Otixa | Zolden, noe |
| 22:45.36 | Blizz-Deletarius | and plys |
| 22:45.38 | Blizz-Deletarius | plus |
| 22:45.39 | Zolden | so, using preset just overwrites waht convert created? |
| 22:45.59 | Blizz-Deletarius | I want to make sure that I get as much practice as possible before global play comes on and the KR server gets flooded with non koreans |
| 22:46.54 | Zolden | or world get flooded with koreans |
| 22:47.04 | Dustin|Work | Psha |
| 22:47.11 | Dustin|Work | I use to pwn koreans left and right on SC1 |
| 22:48.04 | Zolden | Blizz-Deletarius: blizzard say that ladder system always give you almost equal players, so if you aren't best in the world, you can always have a good player to practice with, because on every server there are ppl who better than you |
| 22:48.58 | Blizz-Deletarius | there's a difference |
| 22:49.46 | Blizz-Deletarius | ok |
| 22:49.46 | Blizz-Deletarius | so |
| 22:50.02 | Blizz-Deletarius | the difference is that |
| 22:50.09 | Blizz-Deletarius | yes, my MMR may be ranking me against players |
| 22:50.16 | Blizz-Deletarius | that are "my level" |
| 22:50.37 | Blizz-Deletarius | but the strategies and metagame over in Korea is EXTREMELY different compared to NA or EU |
| 22:50.44 | Blizz-Deletarius | are* |
| 22:51.17 | Blizz-Deletarius | so for instance |
| 22:51.35 | Blizz-Deletarius | there's a LOT more rushing and hyper-aggressive play over on kr compared to NA |
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| 22:53.53 | Zolden | so, by switching servers you switch between strategies, not between not-so-good players and realy-good-players |
| 22:53.58 | Blizz-Deletarius | well |
| 22:54.13 | Blizz-Deletarius | even at silver there's 2-300apm terrans that have crazy marine splitting |
| 22:54.28 | Dustin|Work | apm is overrated |
| 22:54.33 | Blizz-Deletarius | no but I mean |
| 22:54.35 | Blizz-Deletarius | they're really good |
| 22:54.50 | Blizz-Deletarius | and factor in the bit of lag |
| 22:54.51 | Zolden | does "2-300" mean that they have 300 for each hand? |
| 22:54.52 | Blizz-Deletarius | on my end |
| 22:55.00 | Blizz-Deletarius | 200-300apm |
| 22:55.32 | Zolden | I easily ranked diamond with 30 apm :) |
| 22:55.36 | Zolden | on eu server |
| 22:55.43 | Zolden | by dropping siege tanks on minerals |
| 22:55.57 | Blizz-Deletarius | hah |
| 22:56.05 | Dustin|Work | Like 3/4th of thier APM is them just clicking shit and spamming buttons as fast as they can |
| 22:56.10 | Blizz-Deletarius | right |
| 22:56.22 | Blizz-Deletarius | then again |
| 22:56.31 | Blizz-Deletarius | you can always be Goody and play at 50apm in MLG |
| 22:56.39 | Blizz-Deletarius | just play Mech terran |
| 22:56.40 | Blizz-Deletarius | heh |
| 22:56.49 | Zolden | but if a guy with 300 apm knows what he do, it's badass |
| 22:56.54 | Blizz-Deletarius | exactly |
| 22:56.58 | Blizz-Deletarius | that's what I meant by that |
| 22:57.13 | Dustin|Work | Eh, I dont see it |
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| 22:57.30 | Blizz-Deletarius | if you want to get an idea |
| 22:57.37 | Dustin|Work | I think all APM meters should be taken out |
| 22:57.39 | Blizz-Deletarius | get the korean starter edition and play a few games |
| 22:58.47 | Blizz-Deletarius | it's the same kind of thing too when switching from NA to EU and vice-versa |
| 22:58.55 | Blizz-Deletarius | the meta-game is very different |
| 22:59.38 | Zolden | yea, it's like ecosystem in america or in europe or in australia |
| 22:59.49 | Zolden | animals fit each others strategies |
| 22:59.57 | Blizz-Deletarius | right |
| 23:00.04 | Zolden | and if they get to another continent, they rape everybody or got killed immediately |
| 23:00.29 | Blizz-Deletarius | like silver in KR = Plat on NA |
| 23:00.50 | Zolden | i miss elo |
| 23:02.30 | Zolden | btw, another thing, elo function is the same in pro chess and in internet, and pro chess players have 2700-2800 in pro events, but they have about 3500 in internet |
| 23:02.51 | Zolden | it's same like if koreans join europe |
| 23:04.14 | Zolden | Otixa: how to force ndo to be more precise and pay attention to diffuse instead of spamming random hills and crap? |
| 23:05.16 | Ahli | korea must be frustrating for korean rts noobs... |
| 23:05.36 | Ahli | like me |
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| 23:17.50 | Ahli | https://github.com/munificent/vigil :D |
| 23:24.09 | Dustin | lol |
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| 23:27.45 | Zolden | awesome rock, isn't it? http://snag.gy/ZmdnC.jpg |
| 23:29.17 | Exaken | best rock I've ever seen |
| 23:29.28 | Zolden | yeah! |
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| 23:35.32 | Ahli | I need UI help. I've an empty space I can fill with a cool feature. but what could I do? Here what I planned so far: http://snag.gy/8q9MF.jpg |
| 23:39.36 | Ahli | it's for combining gems... like D3 jeweler or D2 horadric cube |
| 23:45.22 | Dustin | I think that will work just fine like that Ahli |
| 23:46.08 | Ahli | but the area with the ? is so empty :S |
| 23:47.56 | Dustin | Hmmm |
| 23:48.16 | Dustin | Maybe have an image of the combine lists |
| 23:52.14 | Dustin | ya, dude I got this shit |
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| 23:58.43 | Dustin | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/843426/ahlidesign.png |
| 23:58.45 | Dustin | there ahli |
