IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20121222

`00:11.04`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Dryeyece (~chatzilla@dpc674591010.direcpc.com)`
`00:20.54`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Otixa (Otixa@trill-laptop.Varna.Net)`
`00:24.46`	`*** part/#sc2mapster Ahli (~asdaaaaa@ip-2-206-0-70.web.vodafone.de)`
`00:46.06`	`Dustin`	`Sup peep`
`00:46.07`	`Dustin`	`s`
`01:15.41`	`Otixa`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R30HfAFt8ao`
`01:15.45`	`Otixa`	`Sweet rollz plz`
`01:17.02`	`Dustin`	`anyone wanna go play Tofu?`
`01:18.05`	`Otixa`	`No >:C`
`01:20.46`	`Dustin`	`Damnit Dogmai hasnt released it yet :(`
`01:20.57`	`Dogmai`	`we're doing it now`
`01:21.00`	`Dogmai`	`editing final arcade info`
`01:21.22`	`Dustin`	`Woooo`
`01:26.47`	`Dogmai`	`alright bitchcakes`
`01:26.51`	`Dogmai`	`who wants to play tofu <3`
`01:26.55`	`Dogmai`	`on hots`
`01:26.55`	`Dustin`	`ME`
`01:26.56`	`Dustin`	`:D`
`01:27.11`	`Dogmai`	`Triceron:`
`01:31.23`	`Dustin`	`Wat`
`01:33.30`	`Dustin`	`Dustin.245`
`01:33.52`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Tolkfan (~Thunderbi@host-89-230-244-33.nowydwor.mm.pl)`
`01:44.57`	`*** part/#sc2mapster Sheo (53ff988d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.255.152.141)`
`01:45.43`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Parthon (~cheeeese@godsta.arach.net.au)`
`02:17.50`	`Dustin`	`Come play Tofu on HOTS!`
`02:18.02`	`Dustin`	`So I can whoop you all`
`02:52.51`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Stranger (~whois@69.196.140.145)`
`02:53.40`	`Otixa`	`Gief US account ;p`
`03:05.30`	`Repo`	`Updated wiki entry: galaxy / triggers / substring - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/triggers/substring/`
`03:08.06`	`Repo`	`Updated wiki entry: Galaxy / Triggers / Category String - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/triggers/category-string/`
`03:17.13`	`Batomys`	`evening`
`03:17.41`	`Repo`	`Updated wiki entry: galaxy / triggers / substring - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/triggers/substring/`
`03:17.44`	`Otixa`	`hai`
`03:17.47`	`Otixa`	`Dustin smells`
`03:18.13`	`Dustin`	`Lies!`
`03:18.55`	`Batomys`	`Anyone want to test out new map on NA? Could use 3 for full game`
`03:19.24`	`Dustin`	`sure`
`03:19.25`	`Otixa`	`Dustin used his socks to carry his pet hamsters once`
`03:19.27`	`Otixa`	`They died`
`03:19.32`	`Dustin`	`I have a pet chincilla`
`03:19.33`	`Otixa`	`...A horrible death`
`03:19.51`	`Otixa`	`Same thing`
`03:19.52`	`Otixa`	`;p`
`03:19.59`	`Batomys`	`Need two more brave souls - come for play test of map`
`03:20.02`	`Otixa`	`anyway, off to teh store`
`03:20.12`	`Otixa`	`here's to hoping I can actually open the front door ;p`
`03:33.59`	`Otixa`	`herp`
`03:34.32`	`Repo`	`Updated wiki entry: galaxy / triggers / substring - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/triggers/substring/`
`03:34.36`	`Dustin`	`Batomys,`
`03:34.46`	`Dustin`	`This shit is stuck at 50% :(`
`03:34.54`	`Dustin`	`nm!`
`03:34.56`	`Dustin`	`now its goin`
`03:35.54`	`Otixa`	`http://www.twitch.tv/naturalselection2/popout`
`03:37.58`	`Dustin`	`ha, they're gettin arked`
`03:38.52`	`Batomys`	`Keep losing people on load of map`
`03:38.57`	`Batomys`	`And load takes forever`
`03:39.07`	`Otixa`	`optimize then ;p`
`03:39.14`	`Otixa`	`Dustin, wanna play some NS2 later?`
`03:39.45`	`Dustin`	`yes`
`03:41.05`	`Dustin`	`I should get back into livestreaming shows`
`03:41.15`	`Dustin`	`shit was fun`
`03:41.27`	`Otixa`	`god no`
`03:41.36`	`Otixa`	`I have a fear of livestreaming after ModCraft ;p`
`03:42.10`	`Dustin`	`lol well Me and a couple of my friends had a couple different radio shows on WoW Radio and OMFG for a quite a few years`
`03:43.06`	`Otixa`	`hits Dustin with a mic`
`03:43.16`	`Otixa`	`Right, let's roll`
`03:43.21`	`Otixa`	`Join a server, I'll follow`
`03:51.27`	`*** join/#sc2mapster DeadZergling (322e8dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.46.141.209)`
`04:56.57`	`Dustin`	`That game toook forever`
`04:57.05`	`Dustin`	`And I cant believe we lost lol`
`04:57.15`	`Dustin`	`Its jsut because that 1 dude was a badass onos`
`04:57.19`	`DeadZergling`	`which game?`
`05:04.07`	`Dustin`	`Me and Otixa played some ns2`
`05:20.12`	`DeadZergling`	`you there atm Otixa?`
`05:20.19`	`Otixa`	`busy`
`05:20.22`	`Otixa`	`commanding`
`05:20.52`	`DeadZergling`	`no prob, was just curious about the potion model`
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`05:52.49`	`Otixa`	`DeadZergling, yea?`
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`05:57.38`	`DeadZergling`	`was just curious if they were done/ready`
`05:57.43`	`DeadZergling`	`or how they going`
`06:21.46`	`Otixa`	`DeadZergling, been done for ages`
`06:21.50`	`Otixa`	`See Art Tavern`
`06:22.31`	`*** join/#sc2mapster equinox1911_ (~equinox19@pD9E5326F.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`06:41.24`	`*** join/#sc2mapster RazielZ (Raziel@2a01:388:201:4190:dce8:8b97:b82f:a181)`
`07:16.54`	`*** join/#sc2mapster G0A (~hookah604@82.131.189.75.pool.invitel.hu)`
`07:26.05`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Taintedwisp (4bb54735@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.181.71.53)`
`07:26.15`	`Taintedwisp`	`Damn good chinese food...`
`07:26.20`	`Taintedwisp`	`I love habachi grills..`
`07:26.27`	`Taintedwisp`	`fukn delicous`
`07:26.56`	`Taintedwisp`	`Then came hope watched the new Judge Dredd(great movie) and then watch Taken 2(Liam Neesan) is there really anything else to say?`
`07:45.07`	`DeadZergling`	`apparently, there was nothing else to say`
`07:55.14`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Taintedwisp (4bb54735@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.181.71.53)`
`07:55.25`	`Taintedwisp`	`great... my data editor kind`
`07:55.32`	`DeadZergling`	`And here I was thinking you had nothing else to say`
`07:55.36`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
`07:55.45`	`Taintedwisp`	`Man, My data editor just updated the map so i check it out`
`07:56.24`	`Taintedwisp`	`and im like Oh he finished another hero maybe he fixed those other two, made them levelable correctly. with set and switch effects and such, Then i take a look... no so he finished another hero..`
`07:56.33`	`Taintedwisp`	`and every fucking ability is an apply behavior...`
`07:56.39`	`Taintedwisp`	`Just a single apply behavior...`
`07:56.41`	`Taintedwisp`	`Man...`
`07:57.09`	`Taintedwisp`	`Imma have to go back through those bitches and re-do them, I am REALLY starting to think i know more about the ability part of the data editor then he does...`
`07:57.30`	`Taintedwisp`	`seriously, though all are an effect - instant, with 1 apply behavior...`
`07:57.52`	`Taintedwisp`	`And the only thing thats levelable about them are the cost and cooldowns...`
`07:58.20`	`Taintedwisp`	`I think tomorrow Immawhat you think deadzergling...`
`07:58.22`	`Taintedwisp`	`?`
`07:58.33`	`DeadZergling`	`hrrrmm?`
`07:58.42`	`Taintedwisp`	`what should I do at this point?`
`07:58.52`	`Taintedwisp`	`seriously though..`
`07:59.01`	`DeadZergling`	`make all your shit work, lol`
`07:59.31`	`Taintedwisp`	`Well I had all the abilities pre made all i asked him to do was make them levelable, i told him if theres an ability he doesnt like he can change it...`
`07:59.58`	`Taintedwisp`	`and the abilities I pre-made, were better then just 4 apply behaviors for 20 seconds.....`
`08:00.14`	`DeadZergling`	`how so?`
`08:00.53`	`Taintedwisp`	`3. Psionic Wave - Shoots a wave at enemies dealing damage. :P .\`
`08:01.06`	`Taintedwisp`	`It pops them up and applys a behaviorr stunning them for 3 seconds`
`08:01.19`	`Taintedwisp`	`just as an example`
`08:01.24`	`Taintedwisp`	`The other 2 werent completed yet`
`08:01.25`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`08:01.37`	`DeadZergling`	`so a couple create persistents and an apply behavior?`
`08:01.48`	`Taintedwisp`	`Well it was going to have other things too`
`08:01.56`	`Taintedwisp`	`a damage effect also :P`
`08:02.08`	`Taintedwisp`	`I was going to remake the ability from the beetle in Wc3`
`08:02.09`	`DeadZergling`	`oh now you getting too advanced for me`
`08:02.14`	`Taintedwisp`	`The one with the spikes from the ground :P`
`08:02.14`	`Taintedwisp`	`haha`
`08:02.21`	`Taintedwisp`	`You knwo what I mean though`
`08:02.36`	`Taintedwisp`	`But what hes doing is somehow making them levelable, but without duplicating any effects`
`08:02.43`	`Taintedwisp`	`so that means i cant change any effects each level`
`08:03.10`	`DeadZergling`	`isn't that the idea?`
`08:03.10`	`Taintedwisp`	`and hes taking mine off and putting... just 3 other apply behaviors that increase health, Increase attack speed,`
`08:03.36`	`Taintedwisp`	`No the idea is to have spells that I can make stronger each level`
`08:03.51`	`Taintedwisp`	`For example at lvl 1 buff last 5 seconds, level 2 it last 10 seconds..`
`08:03.57`	`Taintedwisp`	`well his it just reduce cost and cooldown..`
`08:04.11`	`Taintedwisp`	`there are no sets, no switches, no duplications`
`08:04.51`	`Taintedwisp`	`unless theres something HUGE i am missing...`
`08:04.58`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Ahli (~asdaaaaa@ip-2-206-0-70.web.vodafone.de)`
`08:05.23`	`DeadZergling`	`Sounds like you two need to communicate better`
`08:06.26`	`Taintedwisp`	`I have communicated, I just talked to him yestday, and he said " it would require him to duplicate the effects so they are changeable for each level of the ability' and I said yeah do that so we can make better heroes otherwise they will be very shitty late game" and he said "alrgiht"`
`08:06.35`	`Taintedwisp`	`and... then he played HoTS beta`
`08:06.44`	`DeadZergling`	`I gotta ask Otixa, what's w/ the tape? And why is there a funny line in the back?`
`08:06.45`	`Taintedwisp`	`no wait... that was earlier today...`
`08:07.16`	`Otixa`	`DeadZergling, what line?`
`08:07.19`	`Otixa`	`still playing :P`
`08:07.35`	`DeadZergling`	`if you spin the potion around`
`08:07.40`	`DeadZergling`	`is a funny line in the back`
`08:07.49`	`DeadZergling`	`where the two patterns are obviously different`
`08:10.01`	`Otixa`	`uhh`
`08:10.03`	`Otixa`	`iunno`
`08:11.28`	`Taintedwisp`	`Okay This is bad...`
`08:11.29`	`Taintedwisp`	`SHIT`
`08:11.39`	`Taintedwisp`	`Right now I perfectly understand how to make heroes levelable..`
`08:11.52`	`Taintedwisp`	`But I need to somehow convey this to paper so I can remember it and understand it in the morning`
`08:11.57`	`Taintedwisp`	`but what to put...`
`08:11.58`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
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`08:12.49`	`DeadZergling`	`http://snag.gy/CmdnZ.jpg`
`08:12.52`	`DeadZergling`	`is the line im talking about`
`08:17.15`	`Otixa`	`ooh`
`08:17.18`	`Otixa`	`Well`
`08:17.22`	`Otixa`	`I'll tweak later`
`08:17.33`	`Otixa`	`Also, it won't be that big on screen, so you prolly wouldn't even see it :P`
`08:18.46`	`DeadZergling`	`just be nice so I can spin it around to hide the tape if I wish to.`
`08:21.45`	`DeadZergling`	`great, my map and mod file aren't communicating with each other again`
`08:29.08`	`Taintedwisp`	`why whats wrong?`
`08:29.39`	`DeadZergling`	`oh, map editor isn't reflecting changes made to the maps`
`08:30.00`	`DeadZergling`	`it did this not so long ago`
`08:31.43`	`DeadZergling`	`pretty easy to tell really`
`08:31.55`	`DeadZergling`	`I changed the potion models recently, they weren't up to date`
`08:32.30`	`DeadZergling`	`Just remembering what I did to resolve this last time`
`08:36.47`	`Taintedwisp`	`That happend to me, Try opening the mod, Save the mod, then open the map save the map, close it and re-open the map`
`08:36.58`	`Taintedwisp`	`with buttons and such`
`08:37.22`	`DeadZergling`	`yea, just been wiping out all the areas I deleted last time`
`08:37.40`	`Taintedwisp`	`ahh`
`08:37.54`	`Taintedwisp`	`So... I have a useless data editor... who.... doesnt know what hes doing :P`
`08:37.58`	`Taintedwisp`	`Sooo what shall i do...`
`08:38.17`	`Taintedwisp`	`I guess Ill keep him so he can make lame abilities and Ill just upgrade then :P`
`08:38.32`	`Taintedwisp`	`I think I now know how to make abilities upgradeable`
`08:38.41`	`Taintedwisp`	`Sad news is, this data editor has wasted a LOT of time...`
`08:38.49`	`Taintedwisp`	`the good news is I can fix it all tomorrow...`
`08:39.06`	`Taintedwisp`	`More bad news... I have not riggerer so my beta will NOT be released on new years`
`08:40.41`	`DeadZergling`	`I have both of those, only thing is they are both basically me`
`08:40.48`	`DeadZergling`	`and they are both overworked`
`08:56.42`	`*** join/#sc2mapster equinox1911_ (~equinox19@pD9E5326F.dip.t-dialin.net)`
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`09:01.18`	`DeadZergling`	`guess the translation of what 12/21/2012 would be was mistranslated`
`09:01.29`	`DeadZergling`	`not the end of the world, just my maps getting broke again`
`09:01.45`	`*** join/#sc2mapster zenxu (d9186981@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.24.105.129)`
`09:02.55`	`Taintedwisp`	`lawl`
`09:03.44`	`Taintedwisp`	`Yeah deadzergling thats how I am feeling on EvoFrenzy, over fucking worked :P I keep having to do cleanup.... constantly, ofc i haven't even told my data editor this yet... but everytime he gets done working I go and fix everything..`
`09:04.20`	`DeadZergling`	`why keep someone who just creates more work?`
`09:11.48`	`DeadZergling`	`isn't the idea of extra people on the team to be less work?`
`09:13.47`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Zolden (58870015@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.135.0.21)`
`09:15.19`	`Taintedwisp`	`yeah`
`09:15.29`	`Taintedwisp`	`But i still need someone to bounce ideas off of...`
`09:16.28`	`DeadZergling`	`well that's not hard`
`09:16.40`	`DeadZergling`	`just post in the forum or here with your ideas`
`09:16.58`	`DeadZergling`	`If there is one thing this community doesn't lack, it is the ability to make our opinions known`
`09:24.38`	`Zolden`	`guys, I want behavaviors to be: 1) charges of the ability, and 2) be visible as numbers of ability charges on the button`
`09:24.51`	`Zolden`	`is there a way for it?`
`09:25.29`	`Zolden`	`i could just remove 1 behavior with launch of the ability, but it won't show the amount of charges`
`09:26.45`	`Zolden`	`is there an effect which could add 1 charge to abil via data?`
`09:49.33`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Tolkfan (~Thunderbi@host-89-230-244-33.nowydwor.mm.pl)`
`09:50.43`	`equinox1911_`	`question: i want to issue orders via TE, in this case the user clicks a button then has to decide where the ability hits ... but somehow i seem to be too stuipid to make it work`
`09:50.45`	`equinox1911_`	`ideas ?`
`09:54.01`	`Dogmai`	`U need data`
`09:54.21`	`Dogmai`	`Make a dummy ability, cut up the command card and then you can get it`
`09:55.58`	`equinox1911_`	`thats what i feared ...`
`09:58.37`	`equinox1911_`	`found something that might work ... a player clicks mouse event ... good im making a turn based map ^^`
`09:59.34`	`A1win`	`just make sure to turn the trigger off when you don't want to detect the clicks, otherwise it'll send every click a player makes over the network`
`10:00.20`	`equinox1911_`	`yeah :D thats exactly what im setting up atm`
`10:00.48`	`equinox1911_`	`but i am curious how much apm would break the map^^`
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`10:13.08`	`Zolden`	`oh, right, vulture abil adds a charge, how could I forget!`
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`10:52.58`	`Zolden`	`strange, I can't turn abil into charge using mode... I set 1 to charge consume, what else to change?`
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`10:53.26`	`DeadZergling`	`well editor error resolved, or rather, user error resolved.`
`10:54.26`	`Zolden`	`DeadZergling: errors again?`
`10:54.33`	`Zolden`	`why are they pursueing you?`
`10:54.54`	`DeadZergling`	`I'm not really sure Zolden`
`10:55.03`	`DeadZergling`	`Maybe they'd happen less if I had more custom models made for my map`
`10:55.26`	`DeadZergling`	`thanks for helping otixa on the potions btw, I'm using those now`
`10:55.34`	`DeadZergling`	`besides the Odd line thing, they pretty awesome looking`
`10:56.38`	`Zolden`	`i'll help`
`10:56.44`	`Zolden`	`jsut too obsessed with my map ;/`
`10:57.18`	`Zolden`	`odd line thing?`
`10:57.20`	`Otixa`	`I'll fix the textures later ;p`
`10:57.29`	`DeadZergling`	`well if you look at the back of the bottle`
`10:57.42`	`DeadZergling`	`the textures don't match at a point`
`10:57.52`	`Otixa`	`sighs and opens up 3D Coat`
`10:57.54`	`Zolden`	`oh, right, i remember it`
`10:58.10`	`Otixa`	`Zolden, why didn't you say anything before then? >:C`
`10:58.20`	`Zolden`	`forgot`
`10:58.30`	`Otixa`	`>;\`
`10:58.44`	`Otixa`	`punches Zolden in the ass`
`10:58.56`	`Zolden`	`nothing can hurt my fat ass`
`10:58.59`	`Zolden`	`mua ha ha`
`10:59.05`	`DeadZergling`	`lol`
`10:59.54`	`Otixa`	`Ah, there`
`10:59.56`	`Otixa`	`found the line`
`11:00.05`	`Otixa`	`does a shitty quick fix`
`11:00.39`	`DeadZergling`	`indeed it will be shitty`
`11:00.41`	`DeadZergling`	`after punching that`
`11:02.44`	`Otixa`	`;p`
`11:03.35`	`Zolden`	`don't forget to turn em into .dds`
`11:04.37`	`Otixa`	`don't have plugin`
`11:04.40`	`Otixa`	`That's your job ;p`
`11:04.47`	`Zolden`	`ok, give to me`
`11:05.24`	`Otixa`	`Wait till I fix it ;p`
`11:05.55`	`Zolden`	`do you fix by painting or soft softens the connection?`
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`11:13.27`	`Otixa`	`Zolden, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/Models/misc/Mapster_Potions/Potion_d_fixed.tga`
`11:13.31`	`Otixa`	`Clonestamped ;p`
`11:13.36`	`Otixa`	`well, not exactly`
`11:13.43`	`Otixa`	`duplicated image`
`11:13.48`	`Otixa`	`flipped horizontally`
`11:13.53`	`Otixa`	`masked out seam`
`11:13.57`	`Otixa`	`so it falls in line`
`11:13.59`	`Otixa`	`anyway, try that`
`11:14.04`	`Otixa`	`replace original diffuse`
`11:14.09`	`Otixa`	`tell me if it's still there`
`11:14.16`	`Otixa`	`might have to fix specular map aswell :\|`
`11:14.29`	`Zolden`	`ok`
`11:15.49`	`Otixa`	`it's still there on spec`
`11:15.53`	`Otixa`	`but barely visible in marmo`
`11:15.54`	`Otixa`	`<<`
`11:16.41`	`Otixa`	`erm`
`11:16.42`	`Otixa`	`shit`
`11:16.45`	`Otixa`	`small problem`
`11:16.51`	`Otixa`	`Forgot to put the label into the alpha`
`11:16.52`	`Otixa`	`;/`
`11:17.51`	`zenxu`	`*sight`
`11:17.58`	`zenxu`	`how is it possible to break map when it was working before`
`11:18.05`	`zenxu`	`cannot figure out what Iv fucked up this time`
`11:18.09`	`Otixa`	`Because long story`
`11:18.22`	`Otixa`	`Has to do with using experimental software during production ;p`
`11:19.04`	`Otixa`	`https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/Models/misc/Mapster_Potions/Potion_d_fixed2.tga`
`11:19.06`	`Otixa`	`There`
`11:21.54`	`Zolden`	`http://snag.gy/kVAwC.jpg`
`11:22.14`	`Otixa`	`neh, good enough`
`11:22.15`	`Zolden`	`2 things: shit on the red liquid, and alpha related line`
`11:22.29`	`Zolden`	`but those aren't seen from distance`
`11:22.54`	`Otixa`	`well, it's not supposed to be seen up close`
`11:23.29`	`Otixa`	`also, scale down the textures to 256x256 and see how it looks`
`11:23.34`	`Zolden`	`i'll fix alpha a bit to get rid of the line`
`11:27.54`	`Zolden`	`http://snag.gy/tkSSi.jpg`
`11:28.03`	`Zolden`	`red shit also fixed :)`
`11:28.59`	`Otixa`	`good enough`
`11:29.03`	`Otixa`	`scale texture down to 256`
`11:29.17`	`Otixa`	`It's too big now, won't be seen that close`
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`11:31.11`	`Zolden`	`ok`
`11:31.23`	`DeadZergling`	`aye, line is far less noticeable`
`11:35.59`	`Zolden`	`http://snag.gy/VwOug.jpg`
`11:36.02`	`Zolden`	`with 256`
`11:36.23`	`Zolden`	`totally the same with a normal zoom`
`11:37.22`	`G0A`	`lol that zombie arena game in EU.`
`11:37.30`	`G0A`	`3rd review rocks.D`
`11:37.49`	`Otixa`	`Zolden, neat, gj :>`
`11:38.04`	`Otixa`	`zip it and I'll update the asset on mapster`
`11:38.06`	`Zolden`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/34/347/potions.rar`
`11:38.13`	`Zolden`	`fixed archive`
`11:38.24`	`Otixa`	`you scaled normal spec and diff right?`
`11:38.32`	`Zolden`	`yea`
`11:38.50`	`Otixa`	`kk, good :>`
`11:41.46`	`Otixa`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/potion-set/files/2-potion-set/`
`11:41.50`	`Otixa`	`Needs approval tho`
`11:41.52`	`Otixa`	`Sixen`
`11:42.39`	`Otixa`	`Right, I'm off for coffee :B`
`11:42.47`	`Otixa`	`cya later guys`
`11:42.47`	`Otixa`	`o/`
`11:46.14`	`DeadZergling`	`filesize is much smaller this time`
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`11:50.50`	`Zolden`	`yea, texture size is *0.25ized`
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`12:33.51`	`DeadZergling`	`was inspired to actually make a cure potion since I had the model for it, lol`
`12:34.06`	`DeadZergling`	`was always planned of course, just got hung up on other things`
`12:39.54`	`DeadZergling`	`guess ill make 5 other potions/scrolls since I been slacking on them for so long`
`12:41.49`	`DeadZergling`	`Lol, managed to combine my laziness into a joke for Scroll of Town Portal`
`12:42.03`	`DeadZergling`	`Instead it shall be Tonic of Town Portal, taken as a suppository.`
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`13:16.16`	`Zolden`	`how to get amount of charge an abil have?`
`13:16.30`	`Zolden`	`can't find a function for ir`
`13:16.33`	`Zolden`	`but there was one`
`13:18.41`	`DeadZergling`	`this in triggers or data?`
`13:18.55`	`Zolden`	`triggers`
`13:19.03`	`Zolden`	`or even galaxy functions`
`13:19.09`	`Zolden`	`because i found nothing in the actions`
`13:19.13`	`DeadZergling`	`should be a way in catalog get value`
`13:20.27`	`Zolden`	`oh, it's an idea`
`13:20.29`	`Zolden`	`lemme check`
`13:22.17`	`Zolden`	`god`
`13:22.38`	`Zolden`	`russian editor is a mess`
`13:27.05`	`Zolden`	`crushed editor ;/`
`13:28.59`	`Zolden`	`DeadZergling: could you pls copypaste me a code of the function?`
`13:29.17`	`Zolden`	`just create one to get an abil's charge amount`
`13:29.41`	`Zolden`	`russian editor doesn't let to configure it`
`13:29.44`	`DeadZergling`	`lol, second`
`13:30.16`	`Zolden`	`in soviet russia abil charges count you`
`13:31.29`	`Zolden`	`paste the galaxy code of i`
`13:31.34`	`Zolden`	`it`
`13:33.19`	`Zolden`	`this: http://snag.gy/lrrK7.jpg instead of abil's field groups`
`13:33.40`	`DeadZergling`	`lv_strLink = CatalogFieldValueGet(c_gameCatalogAbil, "ExperimentalPlasmaGun", "Cost[" + IntToString(0) + "].Charge.CountUse", 1);`
`13:34.38`	`DeadZergling`	`it doesn't really let you count the charges left, but it does let you count charges used`
`13:34.47`	`DeadZergling`	`that should return a value of 7 I'd think`
`13:37.31`	`Zolden`	`what about charges left?`
`13:37.53`	`Zolden`	`are there ways to know it?`
`13:38.08`	`DeadZergling`	`Been my experience you have to use charges used`
`13:38.22`	`DeadZergling`	`at least at the start, could always take charges max - chargesused to know it`
`13:38.26`	`Zolden`	`and it will be the same as left?`
`13:38.53`	`DeadZergling`	`charges max - charges used, yes`
`13:38.56`	`DeadZergling`	`will be same as left`
`13:39.28`	`DeadZergling`	`hrrrrmm, shoot, just thought of a problem....`
`13:39.40`	`DeadZergling`	`that catalog is for ALL abilities at default level`
`13:39.52`	`DeadZergling`	`not for a specific unit`
`13:40.18`	`Zolden`	`is "1" - player number?`
`13:40.24`	`DeadZergling`	`yes`
`13:40.27`	`Zolden`	`ok`
`13:40.33`	`Zolden`	`i only have 1 unit with the abils`
`13:40.38`	`Zolden`	`so ine`
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`13:41.43`	`Zolden`	`ok, testing`
`13:42.36`	`DeadZergling`	`cool, about to see if I put in my 6 new potions right or not myself, lol`
`13:42.48`	`DeadZergling`	`be easy fixes if needed, as I was just copy pasting most of it`
`13:45.52`	`Dryeyece`	`Woohoo Tofu is now public on Heart of the Swarm`
`13:47.08`	`Zolden`	`strange, it returns 1, no matter how many charges i have`
`13:47.31`	`DeadZergling`	`I could have gotten the field wrong`
`13:47.37`	`DeadZergling`	`I've never cared about charges for an ability`
`13:48.01`	`DeadZergling`	`let me try something else for you`
`13:49.34`	`DeadZergling`	`lv_i = FixedToInt(UnitAbilityGetChargeUsed(EventUnit(), "ExperimentalPlasmaGun", "RaynorPlasmaGun"));`
`13:49.38`	`DeadZergling`	`that might work better`
`13:49.48`	`DeadZergling`	`is looking at an actual unit for that one`
`13:57.21`	`Zolden`	`what IntToString(0) menas in the first one?`
`13:57.46`	`DeadZergling`	`is just making the index 0`
`13:57.53`	`DeadZergling`	`Cost[0].Charge.CountUse`
`13:57.55`	`Zolden`	`index of what?`
`13:59.18`	`Zolden`	`1 didbn't work`
`13:59.30`	`DeadZergling`	`no, it shuoldn't`
`13:59.37`	`DeadZergling`	`is only one in there, so it must be 0`
`13:59.41`	`Zolden`	`ok`
`13:59.45`	`Zolden`	`let's try the second one`
`14:04.19`	`DeadZergling`	`Youll likely want to preplace a raynor w/ that ability in the map`
`14:04.22`	`DeadZergling`	`for testing purposes`
`14:04.28`	`DeadZergling`	`instead of EventUnit()`
`14:04.29`	`Zolden`	`i have unit link`
`14:10.22`	`Zolden`	`what are those "ExperimentalPlasmaGun", "RaynorPlasmaGun"`
`14:10.51`	`Zolden`	`first is abil name`
`14:10.55`	`Zolden`	`what about second`
`14:11.24`	`DeadZergling`	`think the second is abil name`
`14:11.32`	`Zolden`	`and first?`
`14:11.33`	`DeadZergling`	`think first is charge link type`
`14:11.40`	`Zolden`	`oh, interesting`
`14:11.55`	`Zolden`	`then i also messed with the first one`
`14:17.27`	`DeadZergling`	`Error proofing these town portal tonics is proving harder than I thought, lol`
`14:17.49`	`Zolden`	`dunno, doesn't work either`
`14:18.23`	`DeadZergling`	`yea, might talk to someone who has actual experience working w/ them`
`14:18.29`	`DeadZergling`	`that's just the best I can think of off the top of my head`
`14:20.08`	`Zolden`	`ty`
`14:31.54`	`DeadZergling`	`Anyone know how to start the cooldown timer on an item instant effect using triggers?`
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`14:52.37`	`Dogmai`	`oi`
`14:52.41`	`Dogmai`	`anyone wanna play a game of tofu`
`14:52.43`	`Dogmai`	`its on hots`
`14:54.26`	`zenxu`	`sure`
`14:54.31`	`zenxu`	`if you wait for one min`
`14:54.34`	`Dogmai`	`its public so you can search for tofu`
`14:54.37`	`Dogmai`	`or join open games`
`14:54.48`	`zenxu`	`aww duckies aint on`
`14:55.06`	`zenxu`	`well I guess we can even play later if more people come on`
`14:55.17`	`Dogmai`	`ill be afk 1 min`
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`14:57.27`	`DeadZergling`	`well I give up for now on making it perfect`
`14:57.44`	`DeadZergling`	`is pretty good atm, just doesn't sync right`
`14:58.09`	`DeadZergling`	`people could waste their potions twice as fast! lol`
`14:59.02`	`Dogmai`	`skunk`
`14:59.09`	`Dogmai`	`TheSkunk__: hots nao tofu open game`
`14:59.39`	`TheSkunk__`	`._.`
`15:00.34`	`zenxu`	`I would be ready in 10-30 mins`
`15:00.46`	`zenxu`	`probly quite fast`
`15:01.42`	`Dogmai`	`we need moar people`
`15:01.45`	`Dogmai`	`its no fun 1v1`
`15:01.57`	`zenxu`	`I guess we just play later then`
`15:02.05`	`zenxu`	`since people not respondin`
`15:02.50`	`Ahli`	`:o`
`15:03.04`	`Ahli`	`I like that I can join random people's lobbies`
`15:03.48`	`TheSkunk__`	`I joined`
`15:04.13`	`Ahli`	`I'm following u :D`
`15:04.25`	`zenxu`	`I guess I come too then`
`15:07.11`	`Dogmai`	`zenxu where are u mate`
`15:07.23`	`zenxu`	`trying to save my map lol`
`15:07.25`	`zenxu`	`then im comin`
`15:07.31`	`Dogmai`	`we have 6 in the game atm`
`15:07.33`	`Dogmai`	`do u want me to wait`
`15:07.36`	`zenxu`	`y`
`15:07.42`	`zenxu`	`ill be there as soon as my slow comp allows`
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`15:08.47`	`zenxu`	`should boot my comp thou :D, ill do it after we play I guess`
`15:08.50`	`Dogmai`	`dustin`
`15:08.50`	`Dustin`	`Mornin`
`15:08.51`	`Dogmai`	`we in hots now`
`15:08.55`	`Dogmai`	`if u wanna come quick`
`15:08.59`	`Dustin`	`loggin`
`15:09.26`	`Dogmai`	`the game is open`
`15:09.28`	`Dogmai`	`tofu`
`15:09.31`	`Dogmai`	`u can click on open games list`
`15:10.13`	`zenxu`	`well lets hope I make it :/, starting the client and hoping not to crash`
`15:12.44`	`Dogmai`	`zenxu u in yet mate`
`15:12.54`	`zenxu`	`lol trying to get`
`15:12.59`	`zenxu`	`Ill come to channel`
`15:13.03`	`zenxu`	`group channel`
`15:13.27`	`Dogmai`	`group tofu arena`
`15:14.36`	`zenxu`	`hmpf taking so long, I can join another game if you are impatient`
`15:15.06`	`zenxu`	`loggin in`
`15:17.29`	`Ahli`	`zenx, tofu?`
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`15:55.01`	`Dustin`	`Ahli,`
`15:55.10`	`Dustin`	`I was following you around burrowed for most of the game`
`15:55.31`	`TheSkunk__`	`I just kept dying and dying, all that really happened that game`
`15:55.50`	`zenxu`	`gg`
`15:56.28`	`zenxu`	`I guess I should post feedback on forums at sometime`
`15:56.31`	`zenxu`	`but gona boot comp for now`
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`16:02.26`	`zenxu`	`soo`
`16:02.38`	`zenxu`	`dogmai you got some thread on mapster I should post feedback?`
`16:07.36`	`Zolden`	`zenxu: just tell me, is it ok, or suck or great`
`16:08.06`	`zenxu`	`first impressions its pretty decent but could still use some work`
`16:08.34`	`Zolden`	`is it on eu?`
`16:09.54`	`zenxu`	`i dont think so`
`16:22.55`	`Dustin`	`skunk`
`16:22.57`	`Dustin`	`you killed me once`
`16:23.10`	`Dustin`	`And it was very dramatic`
`16:23.25`	`Dustin`	`I kinda wanna play some barcraft`
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`16:31.05`	`Otixa`	`Carrier has arrived`
`16:32.07`	`Otixa`	`punches Dustin`
`16:32.12`	`Dustin`	`hola`
`16:32.16`	`Otixa`	`:B`
`16:33.21`	`Otixa`	`Cheez muddafukkaz`
`16:37.27`	`Dogmai`	`zenxu`
`16:37.33`	`Dogmai`	`www.tofuarena.com/beta/`
`16:37.47`	`zenxu`	`nooo`
`16:37.51`	`zenxu`	`I dont wana register and shit`
`16:37.56`	`zenxu`	`I wana post on mapster :)`
`16:38.22`	`zenxu`	`oh is that not even registering`
`16:38.48`	`zenxu`	`pretty formal :D`
`16:39.10`	`Otixa`	`dafuq is tofu?`
`16:39.34`	`Otixa`	`slaps Dogmai around a bit with a large trout`
`16:39.40`	`zenxu`	`still pretty lame to make it in that kind of format`
`16:39.43`	`zenxu`	`forums are cooler`
`16:40.12`	`zenxu`	`I dont even feel like explaining myself there`
`16:42.05`	`Dogmai`	`www.tofuarena.com/en/forum/`
`16:42.15`	`Dogmai`	`I havnt finished making the forums yet`
`16:42.19`	`Dogmai`	`Thats all`
`16:42.24`	`Dogmai`	`They will be done in a day or two`
`16:42.30`	`Dogmai`	`You can still register and post`
`16:43.43`	`Dogmai`	`@zen`
`16:43.46`	`Dogmai`	`@ zenxu`
`16:43.54`	`zenxu`	`what`
`16:48.08`	`Dogmai`	`there are forums there is that what you wanted`
`16:48.11`	`Dogmai`	`or u meant on bnet`
`16:48.19`	`Dogmai`	`ill make a thread later`
`16:48.21`	`Dogmai`	`like tomo`
`16:50.37`	`zenxu`	`well I posted on that weird form you had`
`16:51.01`	`Dogmai`	`the form is there because of the ease of seeing data relayed in a graphic form`
`16:51.15`	`Dogmai`	`the backend of google is really nice`
`16:51.51`	`zenxu`	`its not bad per say, but having discussion is usually nice`
`16:52.00`	`Dogmai`	`yea`
`16:52.16`	`Dogmai`	`we were really rushing to get it out before blizzard went MIA for the holidays`
`16:53.43`	`Dogmai`	`its also why we arn't announcing the project`
`16:53.47`	`Dogmai`	`on mapster etc`
`16:53.51`	`Dogmai`	`cause its just not there yet`
`16:56.45`	`zenxu`	`but you anounced it like a year ago? :D`
`16:57.00`	`Dogmai`	`Why do you think we are being cautious this time`
`16:58.06`	`zenxu`	`fair enough`
`17:02.34`	`zenxu`	`aww man`
`17:02.46`	`zenxu`	`somehow hots has taken some of my button colors away :(`
`17:02.53`	`zenxu`	`they used to be blue now they are white`
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`17:10.20`	`zenxu`	`oh wow`
`17:10.23`	`zenxu`	`that really sucks...`
`17:10.30`	`zenxu`	`all the colorful things are now white`
`17:12.49`	`Dustin`	`ya`
`17:12.58`	`Dustin`	`Dogmai was saying that when we played Tofu`
`17:13.03`	`Dustin`	`Blizz is working on the bug fix`
`17:13.24`	`zenxu`	`I guess good, since I cant be bothered to fix it myself :/`
`17:13.26`	`zenxu`	`if even possible`
`17:13.50`	`Dustin`	`I dont think it is`
`17:13.56`	`Dustin`	`Its on their end`
`17:15.30`	`Dogmai`	`its not possible to fix`
`17:15.38`	`Dogmai`	`it only effects dialog labels`
`17:15.43`	`Dogmai`	`and buttons etc`
`17:15.49`	`zenxu`	`yea`
`17:15.53`	`zenxu`	`and I got lots of them`
`17:16.00`	`zenxu`	`probly gona blind players with all the white shit`
`17:28.37`	`zenxu`	`afucking fuck`
`17:28.43`	`zenxu`	`those locales are again fucked up`
`17:29.32`	`zenxu`	`super anoying to set up locales again since Iv fixed them on last beta T_T`
`17:29.53`	`zenxu`	`oh`
`17:29.56`	`zenxu`	`maybe it wasnt big deal`
`17:30.02`	`zenxu`	`it just added US locale again after saving`
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`17:54.16`	`zenxu`	`omg`
`17:54.21`	`zenxu`	`isnt played handle same for beta? :(`
`17:54.53`	`Dogmai`	`no`
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`18:01.49`	`Dustin`	`Im sick of correcting people on facebook saying that people shouldnt have trusted the mayans and should trust in god`
`18:01.59`	`Dustin`	`MAYANS DIDNT SAY THAT DAMNIT`
`18:02.03`	`Dustin`	`Stupid people did`
`18:02.24`	`zenxu`	`dustin`
`18:02.28`	`zenxu`	`wana come play my rpg?`
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`18:11.08`	`Dustin`	`sure`
`18:11.11`	`Dustin`	`wol or hots`
`18:11.20`	`Dustin`	`wait you;re eu`
`18:11.22`	`Dustin`	`So hots`
`18:11.59`	`zenxu`	`too late`
`18:12.08`	`zenxu`	`I just noticed I didnt still fix the fucking locales`
`18:12.14`	`zenxu`	`why does it have to be like this.....`
`18:12.20`	`zenxu`	`I tried on private it was fine`
`18:12.27`	`zenxu`	`I published public locales went fucked up again`
`18:12.50`	`Dustin`	`Isnt there an editor option to generate locales`
`18:12.57`	`zenxu`	`does it work?`
`18:13.05`	`Dustin`	`Worked when I used it`
`18:13.20`	`zenxu`	`I guess Ill try one more time then`
`18:13.27`	`zenxu`	`I tried disabling other locales`
`18:13.33`	`zenxu`	`but apparently it didtn work :/`
`18:17.22`	`zenxu`	`uploading again...`
`18:17.26`	`zenxu`	`for 4th time :D`
`18:19.27`	`zenxu`	`ok`
`18:19.32`	`zenxu`	`now we can play dusttttttttiiiiin`
`18:19.33`	`zenxu`	`dustin`
`18:20.10`	`zenxu`	`I would prefer more players too`
`18:20.17`	`zenxu`	`but seems like there wont be many to invite`
`18:21.03`	`Dustin`	`Where is everyone!`
`18:21.06`	`Dustin`	`Do we need alot?`
`18:21.15`	`zenxu`	`it works as 1 player game too`
`18:21.20`	`zenxu`	`but I would enjoy more with more players`
`18:25.57`	`zenxu`	`(if someone wants to join magic RPG on beta there is still room)`
`18:28.26`	`zenxu`	`Dustin: well I started`
`18:31.41`	`zenxu`	`stop smokin weed!!!`
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`18:45.18`	`zenxu`	`duckies: great day today`
`18:45.22`	`zenxu`	`magic rpg and tofu on beta`
`18:45.34`	`duckies`	`good to know`
`18:45.52`	`duckies`	`too bad I'm not interested in tofu until RPG mode is available =D`
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`19:26.14`	`zenxu`	`Anyone for barcraft?`
`19:29.38`	`Dustin`	`yes`
`19:29.44`	`zenxu`	`well`
`19:29.50`	`duckies`	`>.<`
`19:29.51`	`zenxu`	`we are going to go on EU servers now`
`19:30.11`	`zenxu`	`wot you think of my map dustin?`
`19:30.42`	`duckies`	`I think you made some deadly decisions in that map zenxu that are gonna cost you :/`
`19:30.45`	`Dustin`	`pretty cool so far! like the combat alot`
`19:30.59`	`zenxu`	`what you mean ducky?`
`19:31.04`	`duckies`	`like still not enableing F11 chat log, even after I pestered you for so long about it =D`
`19:31.23`	`zenxu`	`i still havent acuired the skill to do thath`
`19:31.39`	`duckies`	`that is regrettable to hear`
`19:31.40`	`zenxu`	`but one thing Im probly gona improve is`
`19:31.42`	`zenxu`	`like`
`19:31.58`	`zenxu`	`you can fight 1 areas bosses if other players make lobbies`
`19:32.07`	`zenxu`	`like so you dont get left out in a team game`
`19:32.25`	`zenxu`	`you cannot do super advanced content ahead of yourself`
`19:32.36`	`zenxu`	`but just like a little help to encourage team play`
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`19:34.28`	`duckies`	`would be cool to have 3rd spelltype unlocked`
`19:34.44`	`duckies`	`ice or lightning`
`19:34.52`	`zenxu`	`ofc it would be cause we played it so much`
`19:35.02`	`zenxu`	`but....dont have time`
`19:35.05`	`duckies`	`&&`
`19:35.07`	`duckies`	`^^`
`19:35.10`	`zenxu`	`I can officially tak my 6months break now`
`19:35.26`	`duckies`	`I actually feel like dissapearing for a bit too`
`19:35.42`	`duckies`	`don't feel as excited by rpgs as I used to be`
`19:35.44`	`zenxu`	`even with barcraft being on?`
`19:36.20`	`duckies`	`especailly with it being on, for some reason I feel like I drained myself a bit with that`
`19:36.44`	`zenxu`	`yes its fine to take a break`
`19:37.01`	`zenxu`	`I would like to work on my PvP side for my rpg...but meh`
`19:37.02`	`duckies`	`for first time in a very long time I feel like reading a book all day instead`
`19:37.08`	`zenxu`	`wow`
`19:37.46`	`zenxu`	`of course someone types on barcraft "terrible map"`
`19:37.48`	`zenxu`	`...`
`19:38.22`	`duckies`	`some other day saw a book of "A Song of Ice and Fire" series, think I'm gonna get myself one as a new years present and just go into hermit mode :>`
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`19:38.49`	`duckies`	`well yea`
`19:38.50`	`zenxu`	`I might transfer to finish off my ball game`
`19:38.52`	`duckies`	`that happens`
`19:39.00`	`zenxu`	`dunno what else I should do`
`19:39.09`	`zenxu`	`might as well do project page on modDB`
`19:39.17`	`duckies`	`for what?`
`19:39.22`	`zenxu`	`magic rpg`
`19:39.46`	`duckies`	`btw, I liked that you added lightbulbs into bar`
`19:39.51`	`duckies`	`looks cool`
`19:40.11`	`zenxu`	`what lightbulbs?`
`19:40.19`	`duckies`	`those light things`
`19:40.27`	`duckies`	`in all lights`
`19:40.31`	`duckies`	`landing light I think`
`19:40.46`	`zenxu`	`I really dont know what Iv done`
`19:40.46`	`zenxu`	`:D`
`19:40.55`	`duckies`	`=3`
`19:40.57`	`zenxu`	`but good`
`19:40.58`	`zenxu`	`:D`
`19:41.17`	`zenxu`	`Im in a tough spot again thou`
`19:41.30`	`zenxu`	`I would like to release magic rpg, but I dont wana release it unfinished`
`19:41.41`	`zenxu`	`if I ever work on it again it wont feel as exciting`
`19:41.59`	`zenxu`	`I mean if they play unfinished version`
`19:42.05`	`zenxu`	`and someday its finished`
`19:42.09`	`Dryeyece`	`Anyone want to play some Tofu? its public on HoTs beta =p`
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`19:42.33`	`zenxu`	`I guess Ill join tofu if we get players`
`19:42.41`	`zenxu`	`nobody is joining barcarft :/`
`19:42.50`	`duckies`	`just do your best. Wrap it up on as many levels as you can and then release and forget about it. That way it'll at least will serve as inspirational material for some`
`19:43.19`	`zenxu`	`yea I guess thats the only way`
`19:43.29`	`Dryeyece`	`well I think its tough perod to play custom maps on the hots beta because all the players who are there are mostly just interested in Meleeing`
`19:43.36`	`zenxu`	`I still have 1000 things to add`
`19:43.46`	`zenxu`	`so Ill worry about rest later`
`19:43.57`	`Dryeyece`	`I have a lobby open if your on hots just look at open games and blammo its right there 8-)`
`19:44.11`	`zenxu`	`thats true`
`19:44.12`	`Dryeyece`	`Zenxu did you make barcraft?`
`19:44.16`	`zenxu`	`no`
`19:44.19`	`zenxu`	`I made magic rpg`
`19:44.21`	`zenxu`	`go play it`
`19:44.25`	`Dryeyece`	`magic rpg?`
`19:44.28`	`zenxu`	`y`
`19:44.32`	`Dryeyece`	`is it on hots or WoL?`
`19:44.35`	`zenxu`	`hots`
`19:44.47`	`zenxu`	`invite dogmai too`
`19:44.49`	`Dryeyece`	`can you do it single player or are you gonna play with me`
`19:44.49`	`duckies`	`it's the latest in newest tab I belive`
`19:44.51`	`zenxu`	`its more fun with more people`
`19:44.52`	`Dryeyece`	`hes sleeping`
`19:45.00`	`Dryeyece`	`he lives in australia its the middle of the night there`
`19:45.01`	`zenxu`	`you can play it single player but more fun with many people`
`19:45.38`	`duckies`	`but on the other hand in single-player you can take your time to read all the tooltips..`
`19:46.14`	`Dryeyece`	`you going to play it with me Zenxu?`
`19:46.19`	`zenxu`	`nop`
`19:46.25`	`zenxu`	`i played with dustin just now`
`19:46.26`	`Dryeyece`	`is it doable solo?`
`19:46.33`	`zenxu`	`it is`
`19:46.46`	`Dryeyece`	`ill wait and see if I can get anyone else in the lobby before I launch it solo`
`19:47.01`	`zenxu`	`the first mini boss might be tought alone thou`
`19:47.09`	`zenxu`	`so might consider buying potions`
`19:47.29`	`Dryeyece`	`big download ehh`
`19:47.33`	`Dryeyece`	`lot of imported models?`
`19:47.34`	`duckies`	`try again barcraft on hots with dustin, exaken and maybe dry?`
`19:48.00`	`Dryeyece`	`if you guys get together and do that yeah ill join ya`
`19:48.11`	`Dryeyece`	`I know jack shit about card games other than poker lol fyi`
`19:48.17`	`zenxu`	`if they join`
`19:48.30`	`duckies`	`exaken\|2 we need you!`
`19:48.32`	`zenxu`	`its not too compilcated it takes few games to learn I guess`
`19:48.50`	`zenxu`	`my map is only around 10mb :/`
`19:48.52`	`zenxu`	`so its not too bih`
`19:54.05`	`zenxu`	`Dryeyece: come barcraft`
`19:54.10`	`zenxu`	`Dustin: come barcraft`
`19:54.16`	`zenxu`	`Exaken\|2: come barcraft`
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`19:59.06`	`zenxu`	`well well`
`19:59.41`	`duckies`	`if you'd like to start I gave you host`
`19:59.56`	`duckies`	`the pub is getting impacient =D`
`20:00.46`	`zenxu`	`he dont know how to play I think`
`20:02.40`	`Dryeyece`	`that was kind of neat just got into my first fight`
`20:02.49`	`Dryeyece`	`very reminescent of ff7 but with a real time twist`
`20:06.16`	`Dryeyece`	`zenx are there any hotkeys for things like inventory or spells?`
`20:06.21`	`Dryeyece`	`or do you have to press the button?`
`20:11.07`	`zenxu`	`yes you have to press button for inventory and such`
`20:11.13`	`zenxu`	`item bar items are 1,2,3,4 hotkeys`
`20:11.13`	`zenxu`	`a`
`20:11.17`	`zenxu`	`and spells qwer`
`20:11.36`	`Dryeyece`	`no I meant to open your inventory`
`20:11.39`	`Dryeyece`	`and or spellbook etc`
`20:11.47`	`Dryeyece`	`the ones that have buttons at the top of the screen`
`20:12.20`	`Dryeyece`	`im sorry i was checking out Magic RPG`
`20:12.55`	`zenxu`	`yea currently no hokeys for those`
`20:15.19`	`Dryeyece`	`how do you save?`
`20:15.27`	`Dryeyece`	`or is that not implemented yet?`
`20:15.36`	`zenxu`	`you can type -save, genereally it should save automatically`
`20:15.46`	`zenxu`	`if it works`
`20:15.47`	`zenxu`	`^^`
`20:16.09`	`Dryeyece`	`so if i wanted to bail on the game right now and get in line to play some barcraft with you guys it will have already saved my progress?`
`20:16.23`	`zenxu`	`yes`
`20:16.26`	`zenxu`	`well`
`20:16.33`	`zenxu`	`it saves like experience like every 10minutes`
`20:16.40`	`zenxu`	`and always when you level up`
`20:16.56`	`zenxu`	`so you can manuyally save partial xp with -save`
`20:17.17`	`zenxu`	`(amongh others)`
`20:17.20`	`zenxu`	`I should have just said yes`
`20:17.21`	`zenxu`	`xD`
`20:20.27`	`Dryeyece`	`lol`
`20:20.34`	`Dryeyece`	`how long till you guys start another game?`
`20:21.00`	`zenxu`	`couple mins I guess`
`20:22.01`	`Dryeyece`	`ping my name in IRC so I get a little ding I might be outside smoking or soemthing`
`20:22.47`	`zenxu`	`this is just over`
`20:22.54`	`zenxu`	`rightttt if dusting would just end it`
`20:23.23`	`zenxu`	`nvm`
`20:23.26`	`zenxu`	`he didnt manage to do so`
`20:24.37`	`Dryeyece`	`lol`
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`20:27.01`	`zenxu`	`Dryeyece: now`
`20:27.24`	`Dryeyece`	`K i am downloading it right now so give me just a sec for that to finish and i will hop into your lobby`
`20:27.52`	`Dryeyece`	`its apparently quite a large download`
`20:28.35`	`zenxu`	`Dustin: join`
`20:28.59`	`Dustin`	`Its cause of hte music dry`
`20:29.42`	`Dryeyece`	`i dont see it in the open games list`
`20:30.30`	`Dryeyece`	`nvm`
`21:01.22`	`Dryeyece`	`ive never played a game that I knew less about wtf was going on`
`21:01.33`	`Dustin`	`Thats how I felt the first couple times I palyed :P`
`21:01.39`	`Dustin`	`By the 3rd or 4th game you'll be a pro`
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`21:23.27`	`Taintedwisp`	`MACDOUGALL!!!! WHYY!!!!!`
`21:23.36`	`Taintedwisp`	`Hey everyone`
`21:29.34`	`Taintedwisp`	`No one?`
`21:46.00`	`Taintedwisp`	`I think i am about to finish these heroes up...`
`21:50.57`	`Taintedwisp`	`There 1 hero completed...`
`21:51.15`	`Taintedwisp`	`I think`
`21:52.54`	`Taintedwisp`	`Hey Dryeyece you there? i have a very quick question`
`21:53.20`	`Dryeyece`	`i HAVE A VERY SLOW ANSWER`
`21:53.25`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
`21:53.37`	`Dryeyece`	`you seem to be taking your time with this very quick question`
`21:53.38`	`Taintedwisp`	`Hey what determines how many levels an ability has? i made the learn ability`
`21:53.39`	`Taintedwisp`	`and such`
`21:53.41`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`21:53.53`	`Dryeyece`	`the maximum array amount on the ability`
`21:54.02`	`Taintedwisp`	`kk thanks`
`21:54.15`	`Dryeyece`	`if you have 4 effects and 6 iterations of cost then its 6 levels`
`21:54.48`	`Dryeyece`	`and the 4th 5th and 6th lvl will just use the 4th index in the effects`
`21:54.54`	`Taintedwisp`	`ohh sooo just how many cost feilds i have?`
`21:55.32`	`Taintedwisp`	`my data editor keeps deleting all my abilities that i made and replacing them with...well crap..`
`21:55.39`	`Dryeyece`	`no`
`21:55.43`	`Dryeyece`	`the highest array value`
`21:55.54`	`Dryeyece`	`if theres only 3 costs but 6 effects the ability will have 6 levels`
`21:55.59`	`Dryeyece`	`however`
`21:56.11`	`Dryeyece`	`I have made a LOT of heroes with the data editor and take my advice do not use learns`
`21:56.21`	`Taintedwisp`	`why not?`
`21:56.25`	`Dryeyece`	`learns are crap because they require you to make shittons of extra effects to level stuff`
`21:56.29`	`Dryeyece`	`use upgrades`
`21:56.46`	`Dryeyece`	`and put a req on the abil countupgrade X complete`
`21:57.14`	`Dryeyece`	`this way you only need one set of effects for each abil and upgrades are easy as shit to make`
`21:57.35`	`Dryeyece`	`plus when hots ocmes out it will be easier for you to convert them to hero abilities`
`21:57.51`	`Dryeyece`	`and I think hero abilities will basically combine an upgrade and an ability together`
`21:58.04`	`Dryeyece`	`or soemthing like that`
`21:58.18`	`Taintedwisp`	`ahh`
`21:58.23`	`Taintedwisp`	`hmm`
`21:58.23`	`Dryeyece`	`either way using upgrades will make your job 10000000 times easier`
`21:58.36`	`Taintedwisp`	`Then I need to decide.. learn something new, or Do what I understand..`
`21:58.36`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`21:58.45`	`Dryeyece`	`researches are so easy dude`
`21:59.15`	`Taintedwisp`	`the problem is, 6 of my heroes were already completed through learn abilities`
`21:59.20`	`Dryeyece`	`you just make the upgrade set its max lvl, go into the info field and change the values you want to change for leveling the ability and stick that upgrade in the heroes research ability`
`21:59.30`	`Dryeyece`	`you can give an ability 50 levels in about 30 seconds`
`21:59.33`	`Dryeyece`	`if you wanted`
`21:59.43`	`Dryeyece`	`it doesnt matter`
`21:59.56`	`Taintedwisp`	`hmm`
`22:00.02`	`Dryeyece`	`you just take the effects out of the effects field in the abils so they only use the first effect then make the upgrade`
`22:00.10`	`Dryeyece`	`you can delete all the extra effects and actors later`
`22:00.16`	`Taintedwisp`	`I guess all i would have to do is remove the lean ability then everything would have its lvl 1 effect by default aye?`
`22:00.34`	`Dryeyece`	`thats what I have done and I can tell you making little changes to leveled abils, and such is sooooooo much easier now`
`22:00.42`	`Dryeyece`	`yeah`
`22:00.55`	`Taintedwisp`	`wait will i have to fool around with fucking shitty requirements?`
`22:00.57`	`Dryeyece`	`but it would still behooth you to remove the excess effects from the abiltiies effect field`
`22:01.15`	`Dryeyece`	`whats so shitty about Requirements?`
`22:01.29`	`Taintedwisp`	`i dunno`
`22:01.31`	`Dryeyece`	`they are an indespensable tool`
`22:01.34`	`Taintedwisp`	`just never used them :P`
`22:01.38`	`Dryeyece`	`and theres nothing I cant help you with about them`
`22:01.52`	`Dryeyece`	`they are easy because you just make a sentence with it`
`22:02.24`	`Dryeyece`	`they can only do 3 things count ability levels, upgrades, and behaviors`
`22:02.35`	`Taintedwisp`	`ahh`
`22:02.51`	`Taintedwisp`	`Hey, Okay I have a question then, So I need 1 upgrade per ability correct?`
`22:03.01`	`Dryeyece`	`and all you need is a requirement that says CountAbilX (Complete)`
`22:03.05`	`Taintedwisp`	`how will I make it so you can only access this menu wheny ou have a ponint`
`22:03.08`	`Dryeyece`	`yeah`
`22:03.54`	`Dryeyece`	`you mean you can only spend a point int he menu when you have a point`
`22:04.04`	`Dryeyece`	`you ought to be able to acess it to check it otu at anytime yeah?`
`22:04.15`	`Taintedwisp`	`yeah`
`22:04.25`	`Taintedwisp`	`but with less grammar errors :`
`22:04.27`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`22:04.29`	`Dryeyece`	`do you use terrazine, or vespene in your map for anything?`
`22:04.36`	`Taintedwisp`	`no....`
`22:04.47`	`Taintedwisp`	`I use minerals`
`22:04.48`	`Dryeyece`	`or if you are any good with triggers you can just make an integer to increase with player levels`
`22:04.53`	`Taintedwisp`	`and maybe eventually vespense`
`22:05.10`	`Dryeyece`	`well you can make terrazine into ability points by giving the player 1 each time they level`
`22:05.14`	`Dryeyece`	`and you can do that in data if you want`
`22:05.33`	`Dryeyece`	`and make the upgrades cost 1 terrazine each`
`22:05.37`	`Taintedwisp`	`so theres no way to count the behavior level on the vacancy?`
`22:05.45`	`Taintedwisp`	`will it still look like normal levels?`
`22:05.50`	`Dryeyece`	`you can hide that terraqzine cost part in the buttons and make it seem as if its just a normal ability point`
`22:06.07`	`Dryeyece`	`count behavior level of vacancy?`
`22:06.31`	`Taintedwisp`	`Yeah Like Give 1 count to the button for each level of the vetrency`
`22:06.32`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`22:06.38`	`Taintedwisp`	`< bad grammar skillz`
`22:06.46`	`Dryeyece`	`hmm`
`22:07.03`	`Taintedwisp`	`i just want it to look good`
`22:07.17`	`Taintedwisp`	`Because I am using a standard hero type deal for the command card`
`22:07.32`	`Taintedwisp`	`i wanna get all 9 heroes done today if possible`
`22:07.42`	`Dryeyece`	`lemme see if you can just manipulate charges on a research ability`
`22:09.05`	`Taintedwisp`	`Wow just realized I could add 7 levels of stat boost with upgrades :P`
`22:09.22`	`Taintedwisp`	`then up the max level of my heroes to 25`
`22:10.15`	`Dryeyece`	`yes you can manipulate charges on a research ability, you can even make it so each research is linked to the same charge count`
`22:10.27`	`Dryeyece`	`that that would put the integer on the button the way you want it to`
`22:10.35`	`Taintedwisp`	`okay`
`22:10.36`	`Dryeyece`	`and you can se a button to open a submenu for anything on a command card`
`22:10.40`	`Dryeyece`	`now`
`22:10.59`	`Dryeyece`	`do you know how to add charges to abilities with a modify unit effect?`
`22:11.15`	`Taintedwisp`	`Nope.`
`22:11.19`	`Dryeyece`	`because you need to know how to do that, and also how to set up the charge links in each research`
`22:11.41`	`Taintedwisp`	`< wants to have these heroes finished before christmas`
`22:11.58`	`Dryeyece`	`I have not confirmed this I am just pulling frmo my experience with these things in general and it should be doable but I would not commit to it until I had it wokring in a safe environment like not my mod`
`22:11.59`	`Taintedwisp`	`and my data editor is taking WAY too long soo imma just do them, so thanks for your help dryeyece its helping alot`
`22:12.12`	`Taintedwisp`	`hmm okay`
`22:12.30`	`Taintedwisp`	`is it something I could make the upgrade the way you do it for now and change later?`
`22:12.53`	`Dryeyece`	`but theres no reason you cant put a modify unit effect in the veterancy gain effect field on a veterancy now, and have that give the research ability a charge`
`22:13.11`	`Dryeyece`	`the way we do it in tofu is funky`
`22:13.27`	`Taintedwisp`	`Okay imma be honest I have VERY little experience in Research abilities in Upgrades so where would I start?`
`22:13.28`	`Dryeyece`	`Only recently did I finally get every available hero independent of their learn abilities`
`22:13.51`	`Dryeyece`	`look at the engineering bay`
`22:13.52`	`Taintedwisp`	`< still has every hero on a single veterency`
`22:14.08`	`Dryeyece`	`that doesnt matter`
`22:14.36`	`Dryeyece`	`you just need the modify unit effect to target source`
`22:14.55`	`Dryeyece`	`all you need to do research is the upgrade and research ability`
`22:15.07`	`Dryeyece`	`and preferably a button for the upgrade`
`22:15.29`	`Dryeyece`	`make new upgrade and all you need to set on it is the maximum level`
`22:15.40`	`Taintedwisp`	`So a seperate button for each upgrade? or just a button on the upgrade?`
`22:15.43`	`Dryeyece`	`then you go into the info field click the blank white area nd click add effect`
`22:16.02`	`Dryeyece`	`then you use the dropdown to choose what you want to upgrade i.e a dmg effect, a behavior, and ability etc`
`22:16.13`	`Dryeyece`	`then you pick the field and tell the upgrade what to do to it`
`22:16.27`	`Dryeyece`	`you can multiply/divide/add/subtract/and set values`
`22:16.49`	`Dryeyece`	`you can only change one field per effect each time you add one by right clicking and adding an effect`
`22:17.19`	`Dryeyece`	`so to change an abilities cooldown, and cast time you add the ability to the upgrade twice and in one of them you mod the cooldown, and in the other you mod the cast time etc...`
`22:17.23`	`Taintedwisp`	`okay I understand how the upgrade system works`
`22:17.47`	`Dryeyece`	`do you have skype?`
`22:19.05`	`Taintedwisp`	`yeah`
`22:19.12`	`Dryeyece`	`add me im Dryeyece`
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