| 00:00.02 | Dustin | Let me see em |
| 00:00.10 | Dogmai | no |
| 00:00.12 | Dogmai | secret |
| 00:00.51 | Dustin | :[ |
| 00:02.21 | Dogmai | that awkward moment when you airbrush a photo |
| 00:02.26 | Dogmai | only to realise the mark is on your screen |
| 00:02.35 | Dustin | haha done that |
| 00:08.08 | Dogmai | starting to upload |
| 00:08.24 | Dogmai | tofu is just under 60mb =\ |
| 00:08.56 | Dustin | lol |
| 00:09.22 | Dustin | what's taking up all the room, music? |
| 00:11.32 | Dryeyece | Art |
| 00:11.57 | *** join/#sc2mapster Exaken|2 (~kvirc@dhcp-077-251-207-054.chello.nl) |
| 00:16.03 | Dogmai | art is gone |
| 00:16.07 | Dogmai | oh |
| 00:16.09 | Dogmai | damnit |
| 00:16.16 | Dogmai | music |
| 00:16.18 | Dogmai | its half half |
| 00:16.22 | Dogmai | music is 25mb |
| 00:16.26 | Dogmai | art is 25mb |
| 00:16.30 | Dogmai | misc is 10mb |
| 00:23.52 | Dogmai | done |
| 00:23.55 | Dogmai | dustin wanna login to na |
| 00:27.05 | Dogmai | Dustin|AFK: oi |
| 00:27.10 | Dogmai | Dustin|Work: oi |
| 00:27.15 | Dogmai | Taintedwisp: oi |
| 00:27.50 | *** join/#sc2mapster tordy (b84cf6c8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.76.246.200) |
| 00:35.14 | Taintedwisp | yo |
| 00:37.07 | tordy | hello |
| 00:37.30 | Dustin|AFK | back |
| 00:37.31 | Dustin|AFK | sup |
| 00:37.42 | Dustin|AFK | hots? |
| 00:44.03 | Otixa_ | colds |
| 00:44.11 | Otixa_ | hits Dustin with a brick |
| 00:45.20 | tordy | do you have hots? |
| 00:45.28 | Dustin | ya, but it's down |
| 00:56.08 | Exaken|2 | They added more regions in the region menu |
| 01:01.07 | tordy | what do u mean more regions |
| 01:03.03 | Ahli | gateways, servers |
| 01:03.36 | tordy | oh i thought you were talking about map regions |
| 01:05.17 | *** join/#sc2mapster Blizz-Deletarius (d8940048@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.148.0.72) |
| 01:05.46 | ThunderLord_ | we got diamond regions now |
| 01:05.52 | ThunderLord_ | witch is prolly the mosk kickass thing ever |
| 01:06.02 | tordy | we didnt have em? |
| 01:06.05 | ThunderLord_ | nopre |
| 01:06.08 | ThunderLord_ | nope* |
| 01:06.09 | tordy | wait is this a hots editor only? |
| 01:06.11 | tordy | :[ |
| 01:06.13 | ThunderLord_ | not until HOTS |
| 01:06.19 | ThunderLord_ | diamond regions... yeah |
| 01:06.22 | ThunderLord_ | i wana switch to HOTS |
| 01:06.23 | ThunderLord_ | but |
| 01:06.42 | ThunderLord_ | i fear compadibility issues |
| 01:06.56 | ThunderLord_ | and not being able to publish and stuff... |
| 01:07.03 | tordy | like what |
| 01:07.26 | ThunderLord_ | So i can only look, and make plans for those sexy diamond regions, but i have to sit, and wait for 3 more months |
| 01:08.06 | Ahli | Blizz-Deletarius: flux capacitor working? :D |
| 01:08.08 | tordy | are there really map editor features that're only exclusive to hots? |
| 01:08.18 | Blizz-Deletarius | almost |
| 01:08.24 | Blizz-Deletarius | yes tordy |
| 01:08.32 | tordy | so if you save a map in hots w/ those features |
| 01:08.37 | ThunderLord_ | ... |
| 01:08.39 | tordy | what happens if you oepn em in wol? |
| 01:08.40 | ThunderLord_ | UR DONE! |
| 01:08.49 | ThunderLord_ | Ur computer will catch on fire |
| 01:08.52 | tordy | what about publishing to WoL? |
| 01:09.02 | tordy | assuming you dont use hots dependencies |
| 01:09.03 | ThunderLord_ | and u will be banned from Starcraft forever |
| 01:09.06 | Dustin | Thats why I saved a copy of my map with the HOTS tag |
| 01:09.13 | Dustin | And used that to test first :P |
| 01:09.23 | ThunderLord_ | most likely it just wont work... |
| 01:09.30 | tordy | :(( |
| 01:09.39 | tordy | i still dont have a key btw so i cant experiment with these awesome features |
| 01:09.53 | tordy | actually maybe i can but i dont feel the same |
| 01:11.02 | Blizz-Deletarius | pre-order the game |
| 01:11.04 | Blizz-Deletarius | and get a key :) |
| 01:11.13 | Exaken | then cancel your pre-order:D |
| 01:11.17 | tordy | Blizz-Deletarius will we be able to use hots editor features and publish them as WoL so WoL-only players can play them? |
| 01:11.18 | Blizz-Deletarius | :| |
| 01:11.25 | Blizz-Deletarius | sure |
| 01:11.32 | tordy | oh |
| 01:11.33 | Blizz-Deletarius | as long as you don't use HoTS dependencies |
| 01:11.40 | tordy | yea |
| 01:11.44 | ThunderLord_ | But we have access to new features??? |
| 01:11.48 | tordy | i get the license and dependencies thing |
| 01:11.49 | ThunderLord_ | like sexy diamond regions... |
| 01:11.58 | ThunderLord_ | and u dont need dependencies for that... |
| 01:11.59 | Blizz-Deletarius | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7383798582 |
| 01:12.14 | Ahli | are you allowed to give us an example of one of these features and can you give it to us? |
| 01:12.35 | tordy | diamond shaped regions? lol |
| 01:13.02 | ckSynergy | whoa when did deletarius walk in? |
| 01:13.08 | ckSynergy | overtime for the holidays bud? |
| 01:13.10 | tordy | when Taintedwisp scared him back in |
| 01:13.30 | Blizz-Deletarius | nah |
| 01:13.32 | Blizz-Deletarius | still at work |
| 01:13.51 | tordy | do you get a key for preordering at the blizz online store? |
| 01:13.59 | tordy | or is it just a 3rd party thing like amazon |
| 01:14.35 | ThunderLord_ | If i preorderd the game on amazon, will i be able to play the game at midnight when it goes live? or do i have to wait for it to ship? |
| 01:14.48 | ckSynergy | man those slave drivers lol |
| 01:15.56 | Exaken | You probably have to wait until they ship it as your key is in the game box thingy |
| 01:16.42 | ThunderLord_ | ))-= |
| 01:16.55 | Ahli | note to myself: finish bachelor thesis before hots release |
| 01:17.19 | Taintedwisp | Hey Deletarius I noticed they are implementing one of the few things I said about HOTS balance haha |
| 01:17.20 | ThunderLord_ | well... i went to gamestop and they said they would not have a midnight release... |
| 01:17.29 | ckSynergy | Tainted: whats that? |
| 01:17.32 | Taintedwisp | Setting the Medivac upgrade to fusion core |
| 01:17.35 | ThunderLord_ | Ifestor buffs? |
| 01:17.40 | tordy | Ahli how many pages |
| 01:17.41 | ThunderLord_ | cuz if its infestor buffs |
| 01:17.46 | ThunderLord_ | screw u |
| 01:17.49 | Ahli | 32 only :> |
| 01:18.05 | tordy | Taintedwisp u sure it's not just 20 other people that siad it before you? |
| 01:18.07 | Taintedwisp | And Deletarius tell Tordy, that if I didnt scare you off you would have to stay here until you died of Hunger and thirst... |
| 01:18.12 | Taintedwisp | Nahhhh haha |
| 01:18.23 | Ahli | and I've 8 weeks for that and got only 1 exam to learn for during timespan... |
| 01:18.24 | Taintedwisp | Actually I said it before patch 9 was live :P |
| 01:18.34 | Taintedwisp | within like 10 minutes of the patch 9 notes :P |
| 01:18.42 | ckSynergy | lol |
| 01:18.54 | ThunderLord_ | HOTS is so badass... |
| 01:19.09 | Taintedwisp | < still doesnt know what the fuck hes talking about when talking balance half the time :P |
| 01:19.33 | tordy | ive never written anything more than 10 pages |
| 01:19.42 | tordy | academic sized pages |
| 01:19.57 | tordy | u know like double space tnr 12pt etc |
| 01:20.12 | ThunderLord_ | maybe with that requirement of the fusion core, terrans will build more battle cruisers, which would be cool. |
| 01:20.21 | Taintedwisp | Tordy, I didnt know you could write, i just thought you used dragon naturally speaking, because you know... retardation and all... |
| 01:20.36 | Taintedwisp | Yeah thunderlord that would make BC Tech a must now |
| 01:20.52 | Taintedwisp | Just add a little speed to the BattleCruisers and we will be good to go |
| 01:20.58 | ThunderLord_ | i build carriers more often now... |
| 01:21.10 | Taintedwisp | yeah now that they leash instead of BS |
| 01:21.10 | ThunderLord_ | specially cuz they can micro kinda now |
| 01:24.06 | tordy | . |
| 01:24.37 | *** join/#sc2mapster TheSkunk__ (~TheSkunk_@74.39.160.157) |
| 01:24.51 | TheSkunk__ | Hello |
| 01:24.56 | Exaken | hey |
| 01:25.03 | Taintedwisp | hey Skunkass |
| 01:25.05 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 01:25.21 | Taintedwisp | < just talks shit for no reason :P |
| 01:25.32 | TheSkunk__ | yep |
| 01:25.44 | Taintedwisp | ahah whats up skunk |
| 01:26.04 | Taintedwisp | Anyone else use yahoo, and notice they ripped off Gmail... |
| 01:26.13 | Taintedwisp | I actually enjoyed yahoos email... |
| 01:26.15 | Taintedwisp | now it sucks |
| 01:26.22 | tordy | i use yahoo |
| 01:26.36 | tordy | but that's because i had an account before gmail came out |
| 01:26.42 | tordy | and im stuck with it |
| 01:26.44 | TheSkunk__ | Same :P |
| 01:27.05 | Taintedwisp | i use Gmail for buisness and yahoo for Gaming/spam |
| 01:27.30 | tordy | i have 1 old personal account for yahoo |
| 01:27.42 | tordy | and like 5 gmail accounts for personal/business/spam/deals/etc |
| 01:27.46 | Taintedwisp | hah |
| 01:27.53 | ckSynergy | does anyone know if theres a way to look at the source code for sc2? I want to see how the inventory functions are set up. |
| 01:27.55 | Taintedwisp | Mailinator.com is still the best email there ever was |
| 01:28.13 | tordy | do you mean source code for native functions? |
| 01:28.24 | tordy | cuz no way you'll be able to look at the engine source code |
| 01:28.32 | Taintedwisp | http://mailinator.com/maildir.jsp?email=DonkeyAss&x=0&y=0 |
| 01:28.33 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 01:28.36 | Ahli | open the sc2data files in the core mod folder and find galaxy files |
| 01:28.59 | tordy | unless Blizz-Deletarius gives it to us |
| 01:30.01 | ckSynergy | nvm |
| 01:30.05 | ckSynergy | found it |
| 01:31.26 | Ahli | now I'm showing/hiding sockets only, if you hover over the item with your mouse :D |
| 01:31.43 | tordy | network sockets? |
| 01:32.07 | Ahli | diablo item sockets |
| 01:32.30 | ckSynergy | odd |
| 01:32.36 | ckSynergy | inventory functions are in the script code |
| 01:32.59 | tordy | isnt there a way to see it in the trigger editor? |
| 01:33.12 | tordy | just enable built-in functions |
| 01:33.18 | tordy | and it'll show you |
| 01:33.58 | ckSynergy | yea, not pulling up |
| 01:36.29 | ckSynergy | erm I should say. I got the native library open, but there are no inventory functions there |
| 01:36.34 | ckSynergy | which is odd |
| 01:37.13 | Exaken | They are under units |
| 01:39.56 | ckSynergy | and? |
| 01:40.00 | ckSynergy | there are no functions |
| 01:40.13 | ckSynergy | at least not in the native library |
| 01:40.14 | Ahli | is there something that lets us move items from the ground into the inventory? move item can drop items... |
| 01:40.24 | Exaken | Units->Items |
| 01:40.27 | ckSynergy | Ahli: yes |
| 01:40.37 | ckSynergy | order unit to pickup item |
| 01:40.48 | ckSynergy | I use that currently |
| 01:40.51 | ckSynergy | not the most elegant though |
| 01:41.06 | Ahli | I'm using that, too... but the item is visible for a short amount of time |
| 01:41.15 | Ahli | and it has a small delay |
| 01:41.17 | ckSynergy | you create the item at the unit |
| 01:41.29 | Ahli | then I would use all references to the item that existed before |
| 01:42.11 | Ahli | hmm, maybe move item to slot |
| 01:42.26 | ckSynergy | hold on |
| 01:42.32 | ckSynergy | you cant move it into a slot I dont think |
| 01:42.37 | ckSynergy | not in pure data |
| 01:42.54 | tordy | you know what feels the best? |
| 01:43.02 | tordy | figuring out a pure data solution |
| 01:43.16 | ckSynergy | haha yea |
| 01:43.45 | tordy | not just for efficiency's sake but for modularity |
| 01:43.45 | ckSynergy | Ahli: I have a theory though that inventory items are magazines |
| 01:43.51 | Ahli | alright, I can't.. you can't specify the item holder :D |
| 01:43.58 | ckSynergy | yes you can |
| 01:44.13 | ckSynergy | :D |
| 01:44.16 | ckSynergy | Caster |
| 01:44.35 | Ahli | I mean in the trigger solution |
| 01:44.36 | ckSynergy | If your shop has a interact ability, data recognizes the caster as the closest hero |
| 01:44.45 | ckSynergy | oh |
| 01:44.46 | ckSynergy | umm |
| 01:44.55 | ckSynergy | yea, that I dont know |
| 01:45.00 | ckSynergy | possibly |
| 01:45.03 | Exaken | Inventory item carrier |
| 01:45.05 | ckSynergy | if you use the triggerless method |
| 01:45.31 | Ahli | I have no data shops... I'm using triggers for everything |
| 01:45.35 | ckSynergy | Inventory item carrier doesnt work if the item isnt trained into an inventory |
| 01:45.36 | Taintedwisp | omfg... |
| 01:47.49 | ckSynergy | You know, Im just wondering how blizzard is going to make sense of the bastardized mess they call an inventory system for All-Stars |
| 01:47.59 | ckSynergy | (no offense deletarius) |
| 01:48.17 | Blizz-Deletarius | :) |
| 01:48.20 | Blizz-Deletarius | heh |
| 01:48.24 | Blizz-Deletarius | we're just fine |
| 01:48.38 | Blizz-Deletarius | but |
| 01:48.41 | Blizz-Deletarius | that's all I'm saying about it |
| 01:48.51 | ckSynergy | new inventory functions for HOTS? lol |
| 01:49.14 | ckSynergy | >.> |
| 01:49.16 | ckSynergy | <.< |
| 01:49.37 | ckSynergy | And thats all he wrote. lol |
| 01:51.40 | tordy | what's wrong with the inventory system? |
| 01:51.41 | Exaken | So I just got an error while autosaving that my hd was full, and now a bunch of data is gone, great |
| 01:51.56 | ckSynergy | tordy: have you every tried using it? lol |
| 01:52.00 | tordy | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.06 | Exaken | ssd 60gb |
| 01:52.09 | tordy | ckSynergy: nope that's why im asking |
| 01:52.15 | ckSynergy | tordy: it's horrendous |
| 01:52.20 | tordy | in what way |
| 01:52.27 | Exaken | somehow I'm consantly losing space, don't know how |
| 01:52.35 | ckSynergy | well, you can spawn items via data, but that can have consequences |
| 01:53.04 | ckSynergy | and for triggers, you cant detect jack |
| 01:53.09 | tordy | Exaken did you turn off all the windows stuff? |
| 01:53.21 | tordy | like system restore |
| 01:53.21 | ckSynergy | If the item spawns on the ground, it doesnt count as an "inventory item" |
| 01:53.46 | ckSynergy | if you remove the item via triggers, and then try to recreate ANY item in the units inventory, it wont work |
| 01:53.54 | ckSynergy | if its the same trigger |
| 01:54.28 | ckSynergy | Getting a shared shop (via teams) is a royal pain |
| 01:54.38 | ckSynergy | doable, but a pain irregardless |
| 01:54.50 | *** join/#sc2mapster Lilianna (~Lilianna@71-84-18-236.dhcp.trlk.ca.charter.com) |
| 01:55.01 | Exaken | I've windows backup set to another disk |
| 01:55.09 | Taintedwisp | I am quite annoyed... |
| 01:55.16 | ckSynergy | Its nearly impossible to validate a full inventory without lengthy triggers and saving every item to a variable or datatable bank |
| 01:55.33 | ckSynergy | or idk, it is impossible |
| 01:55.34 | Exaken | Why does windows has to be so big? 32gb |
| 01:56.26 | ckSynergy | unless you just want a totally generic inventory, ie no "armor, consumable, fists, throw, arrow, sword" classifications |
| 01:56.48 | ckSynergy | Its just... sorely lacking |
| 01:57.10 | ckSynergy | even if it takes a year, youre better of building your own inventory system |
| 01:57.20 | tordy | another advantage to use windows 8, the install is like 10GB |
| 01:57.34 | tordy | good for tiny SSDs |
| 01:57.40 | Ahli | I think I need to add a suggestion for a function like "move item into unit's inventory" to my list (again). |
| 01:58.12 | tordy | did you guys all make your own inventory syste,m / |
| 01:58.42 | Ahli | I use sc2's inventory as a place to store my items |
| 01:58.56 | Ahli | but not to organize them |
| 01:59.34 | tordy | it's sorely lacking because they didnt need to use it for anything in the campaign and melee |
| 01:59.49 | tordy | so they were just "mmmmmmm let the custom map community figure it out: |
| 02:00.54 | ckSynergy | yea, and I dont necessaraly blame them |
| 02:00.57 | Ahli | gax3 has something for the pickup via trigger, but it looks as bad as the order unit to pick it up, solution |
| 02:01.06 | ckSynergy | but I'd rather they had forgotten it completely, instead of half-assing it |
| 02:01.18 | ckSynergy | because as it stands, makes it very difficult to even build your own |
| 02:01.44 | ckSynergy | again, no offense dele |
| 02:01.50 | tordy | they thought it about it, implemented something, then forgot about it |
| 02:02.06 | ckSynergy | yea |
| 02:02.08 | tordy | maybe blizz allstars will give us a full-fledged working inventory system |
| 02:02.16 | tordy | becuase htey have a reasont o make it now |
| 02:02.17 | ckSynergy | possibly |
| 02:02.53 | ckSynergy | would explain the reason they're so "hush hush" about it |
| 02:03.02 | ckSynergy | that, or All-Stars got canceled lol |
| 02:03.09 | ckSynergy | which again, I wouldnt doubt |
| 02:03.21 | ckSynergy | given the "soonish" time of what year and a half? |
| 02:03.27 | Cheekything | probs with HOTS |
| 02:03.35 | Dustin | ahli |
| 02:03.46 | Dustin | whats the name of your map, I cant find it under Diablo on bnet |
| 02:05.52 | ckSynergy | whats sad is they wont even tell us their methods, whether it be triggers, data-create, or train abilities, or something new |
| 02:06.02 | ckSynergy | no hope for the developer community lol |
| 02:06.19 | Ahli | "dia blo" |
| 02:06.25 | Ahli | search that |
| 02:06.27 | Taintedwisp | imma go relax I am quite annoyed, I went back and looked at me heroes, and saw he had finished Swarm mother, making it levelable able all, so I checked out out... 1st ability... Fungal growth.... uhhh ohhkay whatever didnt want that in there but whatever, Then I go to the abilities tab and in the object explorer there are no set nor switch effects nor are threre multiple damage effects.. |
| 02:06.28 | Dustin | ahh |
| 02:06.33 | Ahli | most recent version is on hots |
| 02:06.39 | Taintedwisp | Ho how the fuck am I suppoed to balance it if it doesnt change freakin damage |
| 02:07.53 | ckSynergy | lol |
| 02:08.34 | Taintedwisp | He literally did nothing to the fungal growth but change the + attribute damage.... |
| 02:08.43 | Taintedwisp | Then Somehow made it Appear levelable... |
| 02:08.51 | Taintedwisp | I Hope it was just a placer.. i really do.. |
| 02:08.56 | Taintedwisp | and I hope he doesnt think its done... |
| 02:10.35 | Taintedwisp | < annoyance... but i havent talked to him yet soo maybe.... |
| 02:10.47 | Taintedwisp | < Doesnt like Fungal Growth at all... |
| 02:11.47 | Taintedwisp | And then the other ability he added was a single target ability... I distinctivly said... This game focuses on the mini units so Multi Attacks and buffs only... |
| 02:12.39 | Taintedwisp | he started 18 days ago, Number of heroes Completed = 1... |
| 02:12.53 | tordy | who's he |
| 02:13.26 | tordy | the data guy for you rmap? |
| 02:14.06 | Taintedwisp | yeah... |
| 02:14.19 | Taintedwisp | Just noticed that the 1 hero he had completed... He didnt make them levelable really either.. |
| 02:14.37 | Taintedwisp | whats the point of levelable heroes if you cant increase damage, cooldowns, durations, etc... |
| 02:15.20 | Ahli | team projects with strangers :rolleyes: |
| 02:15.56 | Taintedwisp | It sucks when you cant find anyone willing to dedicate some effort.... |
| 02:16.08 | Taintedwisp | and my damn triggerer has pretty much quit too...] |
| 02:16.20 | Taintedwisp | I understand why he lost intrest though :P |
| 02:16.27 | Taintedwisp | i didnt have anything for him to do for over a month |
| 02:16.59 | Ahli | well, he might not have been quit... you might just need to reactivate him when you got more work... |
| 02:17.03 | tordy | everyone's a stranger on the internet Ahli |
| 02:17.10 | Taintedwisp | yeah thats true |
| 02:17.30 | tordy | unless i can find someone IRL that knows how to make sc2 maps |
| 02:17.33 | Taintedwisp | he has said he would still implement the bare basics of the leaderboard, but he said he didnt wnat to do anything else... |
| 02:17.40 | tordy | which is like winning the lottery |
| 02:17.47 | Ahli | well, some persons are longer around, so you start to get a feeling, if they are capable of something... strangers are completely unknown. |
| 02:18.08 | tordy | can u imagine tho? |
| 02:18.12 | Taintedwisp | yeah this was a stranger but after 2 weeks it was the only person who was willing... |
| 02:18.13 | Taintedwisp | soooo |
| 02:18.34 | Ahli | do it yourself :whip: |
| 02:18.35 | tordy | i can barely find anyone at my university that plays sc2 let alone know how to make sc2 maps |
| 02:18.48 | tordy | maybe there was 1 guy |
| 02:18.56 | tordy | but he just looked at the editor and messed with the terrain |
| 02:19.00 | tordy | for like an hour |
| 02:19.27 | Taintedwisp | I dont have time to do it myself I am already spending 9-12 hours editing daily cleaning it up organizing, Fixing stupid bugs... Adding actors to units, etc |
| 02:19.46 | Taintedwisp | also creating those damn events when i dont understand the least about triggers :P |
| 02:20.01 | tordy | Taintedwisp now you understand why video games (like SC2) take so long to develop |
| 02:20.16 | Taintedwisp | Because others dont wanna put any effort? |
| 02:20.19 | tordy | even with a relatively big budget team |
| 02:20.35 | tordy | no because fixing stuff can be a long process |
| 02:20.47 | Taintedwisp | I dont mind Procrastinating or waiting till the last second, but doing something the lazy way just because its quicker...... |
| 02:20.52 | Dogmai | sixen |
| 02:20.53 | Dogmai | u there |
| 02:20.56 | tordy | if they didnt design and implement correctly early on |
| 02:20.58 | Dogmai | kevinnnnnnnnnnnnnnn |
| 02:21.13 | Ahli | triggers are just: something happens in the map -> filter it out with conditions -> do more things |
| 02:21.14 | Taintedwisp | DOGMAIIIIIIIIIII |
| 02:21.15 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 02:21.50 | tordy | get dogmai to work on your map |
| 02:21.51 | Taintedwisp | I got that Ahli The problem is, the event I want or the action i want or the condition i want is just never there it seems haha |
| 02:21.57 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 02:22.00 | Dogmai | we are playing ti right now |
| 02:22.06 | Ahli | why not? |
| 02:22.13 | Taintedwisp | I am pretty sure hes quite busy with tofu :P |
| 02:22.23 | tordy | he's still working on tofu? |
| 02:22.26 | tordy | daaaaamn sone |
| 02:22.33 | Dogmai | im playing it right now |
| 02:22.40 | Dogmai | we had 2 6v6 games |
| 02:23.09 | Ahli | the basic things are all there... events are pretty generic... then you use conditions to be more specific and in the actions you might check for more complex conditions... |
| 02:23.12 | tordy | i wish i had motivation to polish maps |
| 02:23.17 | Taintedwisp | All I need... Is 6 heroes ( was 5 but 2 of his abilities were done incorrectly and need to be made Re-Levelable) Made levelable |
| 02:23.27 | tordy | heck i wish i had motivation to get through 20% implementation |
| 02:23.45 | Taintedwisp | The vast majority of abilities are completed |
| 02:23.46 | tordy | assuming map is complicated of course |
| 02:24.10 | Taintedwisp | < did all the abilities, wanted someone who was good to make them levelable and polish them... |
| 02:24.51 | Taintedwisp | < Tries to make sure to only leave the things i can't figure out or wont be able to do correctly and still look good, for the the others to do, I do pretty much everything else:P |
| 02:25.23 | Taintedwisp | I still have to turn 30 units weapons into Missles so they can have an actor :P |
| 02:25.47 | Taintedwisp | Bah |
| 02:25.50 | Taintedwisp | I am annoyed as hell though |
| 02:25.59 | Taintedwisp | Imma go to sleep or go play halo 4 or something i dunno yet |
| 02:26.42 | Taintedwisp | Shits pissing me off more and more... these are the 8th and 9th teammates I have had.... |
| 02:28.09 | Exaken | lol |
| 02:28.20 | Exaken | that's quite a few people |
| 02:29.24 | tordy | where do you get these people anyway |
| 02:29.28 | Taintedwisp | yeah... And I am not exactly an asshole to work with, I tell my data editor and Trigger editor the same thing every time, Your in charge of your department with minor Specifications, Meaning I give small limits.... |
| 02:29.49 | Taintedwisp | The only limits for this last data editor was Make it so I can balance it, and make it look good... |
| 02:30.17 | Sixen | dogmia yes? |
| 02:30.19 | Taintedwisp | LOng as its functional and looks good I dont give a fuck after :P |
| 02:30.19 | Sixen | dogmai yes? |
| 02:30.26 | Taintedwisp | SIxen no? |
| 02:30.43 | Dustin | Hes in game |
| 02:30.46 | Taintedwisp | LOL tordy I post team recruitment on mapster :P |
| 02:31.10 | Taintedwisp | People join, they just love to leave, though I will say everyone that has left has quit mapping all together.... |
| 02:31.33 | tordy | did you say that disclaimer in your thread? |
| 02:31.40 | Taintedwisp | lol no... |
| 02:32.04 | Taintedwisp | My last thread said I am looking for a data editor to revamp 6 heroes, and make them levelable so that they can be balanced.... |
| 02:32.18 | tordy | you mean thi sone? |
| 02:32.19 | tordy | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/team-recruitment/45615-looking-for-special-data-editor/#p3 |
| 02:32.27 | tordy | that wasnt even that long ago lol |
| 02:32.34 | Taintedwisp | yup |
| 02:32.35 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 02:32.56 | Taintedwisp | Since november 26th, 1 hero is ALMOST complete... |
| 02:33.18 | tordy | did he quit? |
| 02:33.46 | Taintedwisp | no... |
| 02:34.09 | Taintedwisp | Hes just working like 30 minutes to an hour a day -_-, and not even doing the work hes doing int hat time period even close to correctly... |
| 02:34.15 | tordy | well then he's taking his time doing a good job ! |
| 02:34.31 | Taintedwisp | When he makes them levelable he doesnt duplicate any damage effects.. or behaviors or anything |
| 02:34.50 | Taintedwisp | theres absolutely nothing i could find that would be balanceable |
| 02:35.11 | Ahli | just level with catalog like me |
| 02:35.14 | tordy | http://www.sc2mapster.com/teams/project-freeze/ |
| 02:35.15 | Taintedwisp | And he did 1 ability correctly, so I know he knows how,... |
| 02:35.21 | Taintedwisp | Yeah... we switched to his team.. |
| 02:35.22 | tordy | XD @ yaks |
| 02:35.39 | Taintedwisp | that was a whatever, i didnt really care :P |
| 02:35.48 | Taintedwisp | < still has ownership over the map itself |
| 02:35.58 | tordy | but he's the team leader |
| 02:36.05 | Ahli | I think cybrok is busy with the minigame map atm |
| 02:36.14 | Taintedwisp | what minigame? |
| 02:36.22 | Ahli | oh no, that was another person |
| 02:36.36 | Taintedwisp | oh yeah he asked me to terrain some map for him too, Like a month ago... and never said anything about it again haha |
| 02:36.48 | Taintedwisp | I told him I would do it if he wanted... |
| 02:36.51 | Ahli | sycoattack makes minigames. I expanded my tetris game for his map |
| 02:37.49 | Taintedwisp | All I know is I am annoyed.. But hopefully everything will be fine... |
| 02:37.58 | Taintedwisp | and he intends on fixing it... |
| 02:38.16 | Taintedwisp | Even though he constantly says "i should be getting paid for this".... after I told him before he joined that it was a non paid position |
| 02:38.42 | Taintedwisp | I told him he could throw up his own donate button on the site when it comes out... |
| 02:38.46 | Taintedwisp | same as everyone else |
| 02:42.45 | Taintedwisp | Well hey Imma bounce |
| 02:44.53 | tordy | so how y'all doin |
| 02:48.31 | Ahli | hmm, damned. I think I need to rewrite npc trade window to be able to show sockets on mouse over... |
| 03:02.55 | Dogmai | anyone wanna play tofu |
| 03:02.57 | Dogmai | NA |
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| 03:05.22 | Repo | New announcement: BarCraft - http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/bar-craft/ |
| 03:07.22 | ckSynergy | ... |
| 03:08.49 | ckSynergy | hmm |
| 03:10.43 | ckSynergy | what in the world... |
| 03:11.11 | Ahli | I see davidkim in a stream |
| 03:11.35 | tordy | wher |
| 03:11.59 | ckSynergy | this is interesting... |
| 03:12.05 | Ahli | http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/ChanmanV not sure if real or a troll... might be real |
| 03:12.59 | tordy | not seeing it |
| 03:13.54 | Ahli | in the channel's chat |
| 03:16.36 | tordy | yea prob |
| 03:16.47 | tordy | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:16.55 | tordy | in other news jaedong streamin |
| 03:17.22 | Dryeyece | taint you should use upgrades to lvl your abilities |
| 03:17.34 | Dryeyece | shit he aint ecen here |
| 03:18.10 | Ahli | oh cool, jaedong |
| 03:21.16 | Otixa_ | jaedong is best VS thors |
| 03:21.48 | Ahli | barcode vs barcode... |
| 03:23.39 | tordy | so call me maybe lmao |
| 03:24.18 | Dryeyece | later peeps |
| 03:27.27 | tordy | i wonder how often jaedong replaces his keyboard |
| 03:35.47 | Ahli | :D |
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| 03:55.22 | themusic | is it possible to save dds files to non powers of 2 dimensions, will it still import into galaxy and work correctly? |
| 03:58.51 | Ahli | yes, as long as you don't use them as model textures |
| 04:00.00 | themusic | is there a batch conversion tool to export assets to dds, or must it be done manually file by file |
| 04:00.36 | themusic | the plugins for gimp and photoshop appear to be file-by-file, rather than batch converting, from what i've read so far |
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| 04:18.27 | themusic | :( |
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| 04:20.48 | ckSynergy | muahahahahaha I got it >:) |
| 04:23.27 | themusic | got what |
| 04:23.33 | DeadZergling | diarrhea? |
| 04:24.32 | DeadZergling | haven't really heard much from you as of late ck, what you been up to anyways? |
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| 06:02.54 | ThunderLord | Hey, am i allowed to make data events and weapon periods not be intervals of .0625 seconds???? |
| 06:03.01 | ThunderLord | and make it work... |
| 06:03.33 | DeadZergling | sure, but it won't be the value you think it is |
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| 07:57.28 | Daara | Can't open .mpq files with Ladick's mpq editor...wtf...... |
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| 09:00.41 | zenxu | morning |
| 09:01.06 | zenxu | even deletar is here |
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| 09:09.19 | zenxu | ZOLDEN |
| 09:09.20 | zenxu | MORNING |
| 09:10.34 | Zolden | hello |
| 09:12.31 | zenxu | nnooo' |
| 09:12.36 | zenxu | anoher job I didn get |
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| 09:12.40 | zenxu | so back to my regular job |
| 09:12.42 | zenxu | mappin |
| 09:13.13 | Zolden | right decision |
| 09:13.17 | Zolden | proud of you |
| 09:13.44 | Zolden | map the crap out of it |
| 09:13.47 | zenxu | actually not much time to map today |
| 09:13.51 | zenxu | gotta go shopping :/ |
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| 09:33.52 | Exaken | . |
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| 10:09.25 | Zolden | what word would precisely describe not-aimed minnigun fire? |
| 10:09.39 | Zolden | just minnigun storming an area |
| 10:09.47 | Zolden | is "sprayed" ok? |
| 10:09.48 | DeadZergling | Bulletstorm? |
| 10:10.17 | Zolden | i'd prefer adjective |
| 10:10.19 | Exaken | Supres? |
| 10:10.38 | DeadZergling | and no, sprayed is not okay |
| 10:11.34 | Zolden | supress isn't exact, actually it attacks a target, just firing dispersed |
| 10:11.44 | Zolden | maybe "dispersed" ok? |
| 10:12.31 | DeadZergling | lol, somehow you came up w/ a worse word |
| 10:12.43 | DeadZergling | should be very interesting to see the english in your map |
| 10:13.47 | Zolden | cmon, suggest a decent word |
| 10:14.45 | DeadZergling | well, if it has to be an adjective, not sure I have one |
| 10:15.09 | Zolden | actually, i don't get it: how can a person with first language = english can chat with non-english speakers |
| 10:15.41 | DeadZergling | easy, just say kekeke every third sentence |
| 10:15.48 | DeadZergling | errr, well that is if you want to talk to the koreans anyways, lol |
| 10:15.57 | Zolden | :) |
| 10:16.14 | Zolden | ok, i'll keep "dispersed" |
| 10:16.21 | Zolden | nerds will understand |
| 10:16.40 | Zolden | and i mean isn't wrong spelling hurt? |
| 10:16.58 | Zolden | tons of grammatic error in every sentenec |
| 10:17.20 | Zolden | how to tolerate it |
| 10:17.34 | DeadZergling | spelling isn't so much a problem |
| 10:17.56 | DeadZergling | is word choice and sequence |
| 10:17.57 | Zolden | how not to shout "learn english, barbarian!" |
| 10:17.57 | DeadZergling | that gets challenging |
| 10:17.57 | Zolden | yea |
| 10:18.44 | DeadZergling | honestly i find communicating via text w/ non-native |
| 10:18.49 | DeadZergling | to be much easier than in person |
| 10:19.32 | Zolden | because ure not a gramar nazi |
| 10:20.14 | Zolden | but yes, listening to some indians or asians trying to speak english is a horror |
| 10:20.24 | DeadZergling | grammar nazis simply don't have other good thoughts |
| 10:20.34 | DeadZergling | give me japanese or chinese any day over indians |
| 10:20.50 | Zolden | i'd suppose they are just like musicians hearing a false note |
| 10:21.18 | Zolden | i mean out of tune note |
| 10:21.22 | Zolden | abd they become angry |
| 10:22.10 | DeadZergling | I dunno, I just have the hardest time knowing what the hell indians are saying |
| 10:22.50 | DeadZergling | and them bobbling their heads while talking |
| 10:22.52 | DeadZergling | doesn't help either |
| 10:23.52 | DeadZergling | anyways, new topic, this one is reminding me of my idiot bosses at microsoft |
| 10:23.55 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 10:24.01 | Zolden | :)) |
| 10:24.51 | DeadZergling | so after spending so much time getting the crash out of the way in my project |
| 10:24.56 | DeadZergling | im really not sure what to do now, lol |
| 10:25.53 | Zolden | i know this feeling |
| 10:26.11 | DeadZergling | so been wasting my time watching cartoons and playing games instead, lol |
| 10:26.25 | Zolden | i approve |
| 10:34.57 | DeadZergling | as exciting as the prospect of redoing all my stats is |
| 10:35.08 | DeadZergling | or filling yet another clump of arrays manually |
| 10:35.55 | Zolden | щр |
| 10:35.57 | Zolden | oh |
| 10:36.18 | Zolden | perspective of redoing is very demotivating |
| 10:36.36 | Zolden | unless it's baby redoing procedure |
| 10:37.32 | DeadZergling | yes, but I need to do it |
| 10:37.36 | DeadZergling | for other things to work properly |
| 10:38.44 | DeadZergling | is just getting too lame and confusing doing it between triggers and upgrades |
| 10:38.53 | DeadZergling | going to just alter the catalog values directly instead, lol |
| 10:43.04 | DeadZergling | Well I'm eating fancy tonight, frozen pizza under 3 mm of black pepper |
| 10:46.26 | Zolden | will you unfroze it? |
| 10:47.28 | Zolden | i'll have something fancy too, frozen me under 3 mm of ice |
| 10:48.00 | DeadZergling | if by unfroze you mean cook, yes, it is right now, lol |
| 10:49.01 | Zolden | well, this reminds me of the fact that i'm hubgry too |
| 10:49.25 | Zolden | but first finish fixes and publish! |
| 10:52.19 | Zolden | "publish" looks a bit like "bullshit" |
| 10:52.35 | DeadZergling | yes, but you might finish your fixes faster |
| 10:52.36 | DeadZergling | if you ate |
| 10:53.22 | Zolden | wrong, ate humans think slower, because blood rushes into stomach |
| 10:53.39 | Zolden | and mapping = thinking |
| 10:56.25 | DeadZergling | lol, maybe, sometimes it helps to calm down though |
| 10:57.06 | Zolden | yeah, if you haven't ate tool long adn tired and cant' concentrate, eating helps |
| 10:57.44 | Zolden | but it's morning, i'm full of energy and concentrated as hitler at june 22, 1941 |
| 10:58.13 | DeadZergling | lol, by the way did you play tycoon tower defense? |
| 10:58.22 | Zolden | nope |
| 10:58.42 | Zolden | last 1.5 months i had no time to play, being mapping my map |
| 10:59.04 | Zolden | but i'll try |
| 10:59.13 | DeadZergling | yea, it is a funny map |
| 10:59.15 | Zolden | because it's a competitor-map |
| 10:59.17 | DeadZergling | lasts a really long time |
| 10:59.28 | Zolden | then my td will beat it |
| 10:59.31 | DeadZergling | one of the bad guys casts a spell |
| 10:59.39 | DeadZergling | the incantation being.... |
| 10:59.45 | DeadZergling | Hitler Stalin Sadaam! |
| 10:59.50 | DeadZergling | or something like that, lol |
| 11:01.33 | DeadZergling | anyways, it is a really well made map, worth seeing |
| 11:02.41 | Zolden | alright |
| 11:11.17 | Zolden | ok, looks like all done |
| 11:11.17 | G0A | Zolden, dont worry tycoon TD is unreplayable. |
| 11:11.38 | Zolden | publishing his map for public |
| 11:12.12 | Zolden | G0A: well, anyway I'll have to play only my map for 2 weeks to balance it |
| 11:12.17 | Zolden | wanna test my map? |
| 11:12.34 | G0A | later |
| 11:12.39 | G0A | hmm |
| 11:13.18 | Zolden | alright, i'll find testers in chat, everybody like td |
| 11:13.45 | G0A | wait |
| 11:13.48 | G0A | I am coming:D |
| 11:13.55 | Zolden | why should I pick bnet mod every time I publish the map? even if i didn't change it |
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| 11:15.32 | Zolden | i'm coming too |
| 11:15.44 | Zolden | anyone else wanna test on EU? |
| 11:16.29 | DeadZergling | i'd be there if it was US, lol |
| 11:17.22 | Zolden | wait, how can I forbid a host to drag players between teams? |
| 11:17.59 | G0A | locked teams... |
| 11:18.09 | Zolden | yea, found it |
| 11:18.14 | Zolden | republishing |
| 11:18.47 | Zolden | it's easier to lock teams then to make triggers to handle it |
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| 11:55.09 | Monkalizer | Dogmai: still not sleeping |
| 11:55.12 | Monkalizer | ? |
| 11:57.47 | Dogmai | i woke up |
| 11:57.53 | Dogmai | my gf made me dinner |
| 11:57.55 | Dogmai | ive slept all day |
| 11:58.14 | Dogmai | the test was awesome |
| 11:58.21 | Dogmai | we had 6v6 |
| 11:58.23 | Dogmai | no lag |
| 11:58.45 | Dogmai | we have never been able to test a full game of tofu before, and dryeyece and I didn't think it would work without lagging everyone out |
| 11:58.47 | Dogmai | it was epic |
| 11:58.50 | Dogmai | so much action going on |
| 11:58.51 | Dogmai | so fast |
| 11:58.59 | Dogmai | such a different game compared to 4v4 |
| 11:59.12 | Dogmai | @ Monkalizer |
| 11:59.27 | Monkalizer | nice! |
| 11:59.45 | Monkalizer | im happy for you :) after all the work you put into it! |
| 12:00.06 | Monkalizer | have you resolved the problems with the UI |
| 12:07.51 | Dogmai | nope |
| 12:08.07 | Dogmai | I was talking to Dele about it, its been documented before |
| 12:08.14 | Dogmai | So they are taking a look into it |
| 12:08.27 | Dogmai | At this moment, from my view, it appears to be a bug in HotS itself |
| 12:08.45 | Dogmai | We did find a OP hero though :) |
| 12:08.54 | Monkalizer | well, then you can relax for now :P let blizzard do the sweating |
| 12:09.10 | Dogmai | lol |
| 12:09.22 | Dogmai | Dryeyece and I are gonna have to start debating some changes now |
| 12:09.51 | Dogmai | Because Dryeyece is very like, new player friendly, where I think more along the lines of esport |
| 12:10.04 | Dogmai | So it is a good mix, but there are certain mechanics that can't exist in both |
| 12:10.35 | Dogmai | So I am thinking in Freeplay some of the more advanced mechanics are turned off, and in League Mode they are turned on |
| 12:11.55 | Monkalizer | in my mod, im going to ask the player which profile they would like to play as: a predefined squad with upgrades and stuff that will make it possible for them to complete the map - or one of three personal profiles |
| 12:12.06 | Dogmai | Yea |
| 12:12.30 | Dogmai | It is entirely possible within the realms of the engine to create the game as you go |
| 12:12.34 | Dogmai | Change rules on the fly |
| 12:12.42 | Dogmai | So that is something I want to add in the future |
| 12:12.45 | Monkalizer | you could do it that way: letting beginners play with an easier profile (better upgrades) to level the playing field |
| 12:13.01 | Dogmai | The ability to create your own gamemode, as the scripts are there to do it, just not a screen to input the values. |
| 12:13.10 | Dogmai | yea |
| 12:13.26 | Monkalizer | your idea sounds legit: many more serious games have an arcade and realistic mode |
| 12:13.27 | Dogmai | Dry wants to do that with survival, have heroes start at level 5 |
| 12:13.41 | Dogmai | where as I think survival should start at 1 |
| 12:13.46 | Dogmai | because its a lot harder, like a lot harder |
| 12:14.04 | Dogmai | But that is merely like 1 variable change, like Game.Starting_Level = 5 |
| 12:14.06 | Monkalizer | a higher level is more interesting since you get more interesting action directly |
| 12:14.17 | Dogmai | Yea, I have no problem trying it |
| 12:14.28 | Dogmai | I wanted to get a game of survival starting at level 1 |
| 12:14.33 | Dogmai | then one starting at level 5 to compare |
| 12:15.06 | Monkalizer | also - you should set up a google questionary document to ask players what they think |
| 12:15.37 | Dogmai | Thats a good idea |
| 12:15.44 | Monkalizer | much better way of gathering statistics |
| 12:15.56 | Monkalizer | you can ask for specific things ^^ |
| 12:17.49 | Dogmai | alright, so i go itno google docs yea |
| 12:18.18 | Monkalizer | they moved them into google drive |
| 12:18.31 | Dogmai | Then what would I create, I presume the equivalent of access |
| 12:18.45 | Dogmai | oh form |
| 12:19.43 | Monkalizer | hm yeah thats probably it |
| 12:22.29 | Dogmai | Monk |
| 12:22.32 | Dogmai | I love you so much right now |
| 12:22.34 | Dogmai | <3 |
| 12:22.45 | Dogmai | This is so much better than the email form we had before |
| 12:23.10 | Monkalizer | lol |
| 12:23.34 | Monkalizer | you can embed it into emails if you want |
| 12:33.27 | Dogmai | I don't even remember what happened this morning |
| 12:33.41 | Dogmai | One minute I was playing Tofu, the next I woke up and its dinner |
| 12:33.47 | Dogmai | I just have a huge blank |
| 12:34.08 | Dogmai | I must have been so out of it |
| 12:36.39 | Monkalizer | well, you seem to have been stressed lately ^^ it will take about a week for your brain to reboot. also expect to get sick. when we are stressed adrenaline and stress hormones keep our immune system boosted. When we stop being stressed the hormone pump stops, which means our immune system stops too. It takes about 1-2 weeks for the immune system to get used to the new environment :) |
| 12:37.05 | Dogmai | yea, i just need to run on the treadmill for a few weeks |
| 12:37.09 | Dogmai | get my body back up |
| 12:37.13 | Dogmai | its too sick at the moment |
| 12:37.14 | Dogmai | too tired |
| 12:38.26 | Monkalizer | how do you do version management? i have like 10 copies of my mod :( |
| 12:38.44 | Dogmai | we will have to manually control verisons |
| 12:39.04 | Dogmai | This is something I need to discuss with Deletarius |
| 12:39.07 | Dogmai | Don't let me forget |
| 12:39.19 | Dogmai | We need better management when it comes to Mods and Version Updating |
| 12:39.55 | Monkalizer | tell me about it. I have 12 maps depending on one mod. If i change a little in the mod - i have to republish all maps |
| 12:40.03 | Monkalizer | 8( |
| 12:40.36 | Dogmai | Yea |
| 12:40.42 | Dogmai | That is a huge issue |
| 12:40.46 | Dogmai | I hate that |
| 12:41.00 | Dogmai | We designed Tofu so that balancing issues could be simply updated by overwriting the Mod |
| 12:41.07 | Dogmai | But it requires us to republish the map |
| 12:41.08 | Monkalizer | anyway - i need to shovel some snow now |
| 12:41.13 | Dogmai | Lucky |
| 12:41.16 | Dogmai | I want snow |
| 12:41.17 | Monkalizer | see ya |
| 12:41.20 | Dogmai | I've never seen snow |
| 12:41.23 | Dogmai | Stupid Desert |
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| 13:34.29 | Dogmai | skunk |
| 13:34.43 | Dogmai | TheSkunk__: can i borrow u for a second |
| 13:34.49 | TheSkunk__ | sure? |
| 13:35.12 | TheSkunk__ | I just got up and haven't eaten breakfast yet |
| 13:35.34 | Vindicator | America <4000 signatures away from having the government consider building a death star. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/secure-resources-and-funding-and-begin-construction-death-star-2016/wlfKzFkN |
| 13:42.00 | Dustin | I thought we got past the hrdle there! |
| 13:43.35 | DeadZergling | what do you mean, it says it needs 25k |
| 13:43.41 | DeadZergling | it has over 30k |
| 13:44.25 | Vindicator | oh lol, the person who posted on my facebook quoted someone saying they needed 4000 |
| 13:44.34 | Vindicator | so nevermind, we're considering the death star! |
| 13:44.44 | Vindicator | gogo more jobs! |
| 13:51.30 | Dogmai | https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/legally-recognize-westboro-baptist-church-hate-group/DYf3pH2d |
| 13:51.54 | Vindicator | nice |
| 13:52.01 | zenxu | is out out yet |
| 13:52.05 | zenxu | lets go play that tofu |
| 13:52.13 | Vindicator | i'm glad that has a shit ton of signatures |
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| 13:55.57 | taintedwisp | Dang Deletarius your here early |
| 13:55.59 | taintedwisp | :P |
| 13:56.02 | taintedwisp | Wait are you here |
| 13:56.13 | taintedwisp | But you werent here when I went to sleep... sooo maybe |
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| 13:59.23 | zenxu | Well I guess its not out then |
| 13:59.35 | zenxu | Im just bored |
| 14:01.24 | zenxu | I guess Ill go watch kerrigans tits and see if anything new there |
| 14:01.28 | taintedwisp | your also lame :P |
| 14:01.38 | zenxu | SHUT UP |
| 14:02.04 | taintedwisp | http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Terrain067.jpg < kerrigan as a whore |
| 14:02.30 | zenxu | I like it |
| 14:04.00 | G0A | whats the difference in persistent between these: |
| 14:04.01 | G0A | FieldBlink S pres |
| 14:04.01 | G0A | Target: Location +(None):Source Unit |
| 14:04.01 | G0A | Target: Location Offset - End +(None):Source Unit |
| 14:04.01 | G0A | Target: Location Offset - Start +(None):Source Unit |
| 14:05.35 | DeadZergling | no white power ranger TW? |
| 14:06.38 | taintedwisp | whaaaa? |
| 14:06.41 | taintedwisp | Ohh the picture? |
| 14:06.45 | taintedwisp | Thats teamcolored :P |
| 14:07.02 | taintedwisp | < Doesnt do very good team colors haha |
| 14:07.07 | DeadZergling | yes, all the picture is missing |
| 14:07.17 | DeadZergling | is lord zed throwing his damn staff down |
| 14:07.24 | DeadZergling | yelling "Make My Monster Grow!" |
| 14:08.40 | zenxu | ooh |
| 14:08.44 | zenxu | so evofrenzy is released |
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| 14:10.10 | zenxu | and barcarft |
| 14:10.16 | zenxu | someone come play the games with me! |
| 14:10.21 | zenxu | duckies: COME TO PLAY |
| 14:10.31 | DeadZergling | anyways I'm out for now, can get back to redoing my stats yet again tomorrow, lol |
| 14:10.38 | duckies | zenxu, eu? |
| 14:10.42 | zenxu | hots beta |
| 14:10.47 | zenxu | lets try barcraft |
| 14:10.55 | duckies | I'm gonna eat right now x_x.. how about in 15 min? |
| 14:10.58 | zenxu | and maybe the evo frenzy |
| 14:11.02 | zenxu | well wisper me then |
| 14:11.06 | duckies | ok |
| 14:11.06 | zenxu | Ill probly be on |
| 14:11.22 | zenxu | others welcome to join too |
| 14:11.27 | zenxu | its 2-8 players map |
| 14:11.44 | Dustin|Work | I played Barcraft iwht the creator yesterday |
| 14:11.45 | duckies | evo frezny looked so generic from what wisp showed us I don't know if I want to play it. BarCraft on the other hand looks like a really good time |
| 14:11.55 | Dustin|Work | Was interesting, I had no idea what was going on though lol |
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| 14:15.20 | Dogmai | zenxu |
| 14:15.29 | zenxu | wot |
| 14:15.32 | Dogmai | we can play tofu later if we can get a group |
| 14:15.33 | Dogmai | its on wol |
| 14:15.35 | Dogmai | NA |
| 14:15.42 | Dogmai | do you have NA? |
| 14:15.45 | zenxu | well I cant get there so thats a no |
| 14:15.49 | Dogmai | if not I can upload it to hots |
| 14:15.49 | zenxu | hots beta I could do |
| 14:21.35 | Dustin|Work | I went to go take the chicken out of the fryer and when I got back to the computer they started Tofu without me :( |
| 14:22.06 | TheSkunk__ | I was lucky.. I arrived late and I didn't have WoL installed but I somehow managed to play anyway |
| 14:22.30 | Dustin|Work | You got lucky cause I was gettin chicken :P |
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| 14:23.32 | Dogmai | yea |
| 14:23.39 | Dogmai | Sorry dustin |
| 14:23.47 | Dogmai | We had a full game and we had very limited time |
| 14:24.05 | Dustin|Work | Oh I understand! |
| 14:24.08 | Dogmai | Sixen missed out as well, due to some wires getting crossed |
| 14:24.13 | Dogmai | We can do it again tonight, its all good |
| 14:24.28 | Dogmai | And this time it can be on Hots, and we actually have a functioning minimap :) |
| 14:24.33 | Dogmai | But a black and white UI T_T |
| 14:24.41 | Dogmai | Why cant I be perfect? |
| 14:25.02 | Dustin|Work | yay :D |
| 14:25.21 | Dustin|Work | lol whys the ui black and white |
| 14:25.31 | Dogmai | A bug with hots |
| 14:25.37 | Dogmai | Dialog Item colour coding doesnt work |
| 14:25.47 | Dustin|Work | Ahhh |
| 14:26.00 | Dogmai | So we have colour in Tooltips and UI elements |
| 14:26.05 | Dogmai | But not in dialog labels |
| 14:26.44 | Dustin|Work | That's why my labels were just white on the hots test |
| 14:27.04 | Dustin|Work | So can you not color dialog labels at alllll? |
| 14:27.23 | Dustin|Work | Like no text colors as well |
| 14:27.28 | Dogmai | Yea |
| 14:27.30 | Dogmai | Its a bug |
| 14:28.07 | Dogmai | Did you actually play a game with us? |
| 14:28.20 | Dogmai | Because I kept talking to you in Skype for like an hour |
| 14:28.24 | Dogmai | before I realised you were missing |
| 14:28.44 | Dustin|Work | I didnt play any last night :P I had a kid I was baby sitting and was trying to cook dinner while waiting |
| 14:29.02 | Dustin|Work | I was back and forth to my computer |
| 14:30.07 | Dogmai | Ah |
| 14:30.11 | Dogmai | I kept saying dustin in game |
| 14:30.13 | Dogmai | I thought you were there |
| 14:30.20 | Dustin|Work | lolol |
| 14:30.24 | Dogmai | I think they thought I was talking about Browder |
| 14:30.48 | TheSkunk__ | For some reason every time I play tofu when I'm invited to the game I download the map and then it blocks me from the lobby and I have to be invited again o.0 |
| 14:31.26 | Dogmai | it happened to a group of them as well |
| 14:31.53 | Dogmai | I cannot understand why lead weight is being replaced with armour piercer |
| 14:38.01 | Dogmai | that is really fucken wierd |
| 14:38.09 | Dogmai | you drop armor piercer on the ground |
| 14:38.13 | Dogmai | and it says lead weight |
| 14:38.27 | Dustin|Work | Is it using the wrong base item unit |
| 14:40.13 | Dogmai | its data |
| 14:40.14 | Dogmai | i found it |
| 14:40.17 | Dogmai | god damnit |
| 14:41.37 | Dogmai | its something like using the wrong unit |
| 14:41.41 | Dogmai | you're right |
| 14:41.49 | Dogmai | cause I thought it was my side, aka the trigger editor |
| 14:41.57 | Dustin|Work | hehe |
| 14:42.00 | Dogmai | and i kept looking through the code and I couldnt figure out what it was doing wrong |
| 14:42.03 | Dustin|Work | Damn Dryce! |
| 14:42.06 | Dogmai | Because its just an integer |
| 14:42.43 | taintedwisp | No EvoFrenzy isnt released haha |
| 14:42.58 | zenxu | so nobody else coming to barcraft? |
| 14:43.01 | taintedwisp | Right now it is a Generic ass Frenzy |
| 14:43.02 | taintedwisp | :P |
| 14:43.23 | taintedwisp | But i have things that I will implement before its release or beta |
| 14:43.34 | taintedwisp | There IS however a Developer Preview available on HoTS beta |
| 14:43.51 | taintedwisp | @duckies and Zenxu |
| 14:44.30 | taintedwisp | I have got to either talk with the one I got or find another triggerer..... one of those 2... |
| 14:44.44 | Dogmai | tainted |
| 14:44.48 | taintedwisp | And Then talk to my data editor or find another data editor.... |
| 14:44.51 | taintedwisp | haha |
| 14:44.52 | Dogmai | it was so funny last night |
| 14:44.56 | taintedwisp | Yo what is Dogmai |
| 14:45.03 | Dogmai | I mistook fockewulf for you again |
| 14:45.08 | taintedwisp | Come on... |
| 14:45.09 | Dogmai | and invited him into a chatroom |
| 14:45.14 | taintedwisp | I am not they little crying bitch |
| 14:45.23 | Dogmai | 10 blizzard devs, me and dry and fockewulf |
| 14:45.27 | Dogmai | awkwarddddddddd |
| 14:45.30 | taintedwisp | wow.... |
| 14:45.33 | Monkalizer | is there some way to supress the "connection to battle net lost" error message? its interrupting me once every minute |
| 14:45.38 | taintedwisp | Damn 10 blizz devs and I missed it... |
| 14:45.39 | taintedwisp | wtf |
| 14:45.43 | taintedwisp | Dammit |
| 14:46.19 | Taintedwisp | If theres ever a meeting like that and Im on the IRC or hell asleep, Beep me... ill wake up somehow haah |
| 14:46.34 | Dogmai | We had full games anyways mate |
| 14:46.43 | Dogmai | We had too many people last night |
| 14:46.43 | Taintedwisp | ahhh |
| 14:46.48 | Taintedwisp | damn |
| 14:46.49 | Dogmai | Tofu held up in a 6v6 |
| 14:46.52 | Dogmai | Which is amazing |
| 14:46.53 | Taintedwisp | Nice |
| 14:46.55 | Dogmai | No lag at all |
| 14:47.13 | Taintedwisp | is tofu "Fun"? |
| 14:47.13 | Dogmai | We didn't think it would be possible |
| 14:47.29 | Dogmai | Yea |
| 14:47.34 | Taintedwisp | If its not Fun it doesnt matter how much work you put into it :P{ |
| 14:47.36 | Dogmai | 6v6 is very different to 4v4 |
| 14:47.40 | Dogmai | Its a spamfest |
| 14:47.46 | Dogmai | There is so much action, it is so fast |
| 14:47.48 | Taintedwisp | Nice |
| 14:47.56 | Dogmai | Even for me |
| 14:47.58 | Taintedwisp | Oh AND DONT GET ME CONFUSED WITH THAT LITTLE FAGGOT AGAIN!!! |
| 14:47.59 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 14:48.05 | Dogmai | I lost track of my hero |
| 14:48.13 | Dogmai | There were so many times I got a double kill |
| 14:48.16 | Dogmai | And im like WTF? |
| 14:48.18 | Dogmai | Im still alive? |
| 14:48.21 | Dogmai | I thought I died 10 secs ago |
| 14:48.31 | Taintedwisp | < Hates Fockewulf... just wants to cause drama sorry sack of shit... i loath people who do that |
| 14:48.33 | Dogmai | I was playing oblivion and he has the return teleport |
| 14:48.36 | Dogmai | So its easy to get confused |
| 14:48.46 | Taintedwisp | haah |
| 14:48.59 | Taintedwisp | Maybe make the camera shoot back to him when he teleports |
| 14:49.14 | Taintedwisp | Or an indicator on the minimap for you |
| 14:49.38 | Dogmai | you can press spacebar |
| 14:49.43 | Dogmai | and it centers your camera |
| 14:49.43 | Taintedwisp | So what time was this last night? |
| 14:49.51 | Dogmai | but i wasnt use to playing in such a large game |
| 14:50.00 | Dogmai | we did find an OP hero though |
| 14:50.09 | Dogmai | when one hero does as much damage as like the rest of the team combined |
| 14:50.12 | Dogmai | you know its time for a nerf |
| 14:50.14 | Taintedwisp | Beef O Matic > Moomba :P |
| 14:50.33 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 14:50.45 | Taintedwisp | Why dogmai? League of Legends has a hero like that hahaha |
| 14:50.51 | Taintedwisp | Tyrndamere |
| 14:51.01 | Dogmai | because it was near impossible to kill him too |
| 14:51.05 | Taintedwisp | hahahaha |
| 14:51.15 | Dogmai | like, dryeyece had just redesigned that hero |
| 14:51.27 | Dogmai | and we didn't play with him in a full game |
| 14:51.32 | Taintedwisp | lol maybe dryeyece picked himself the cheat character :P |
| 14:51.33 | Dogmai | We played against bots and it looked okay |
| 14:51.40 | Dogmai | but in a real game he is OP |
| 14:51.46 | Dogmai | nah |
| 14:51.50 | Dogmai | it was so bad mate |
| 14:51.52 | Dogmai | our first game |
| 14:51.59 | Dogmai | dryeyece was the first to die |
| 14:52.04 | Dogmai | I followed 5 seconds later |
| 14:52.09 | Dogmai | so embarrassing |
| 14:52.17 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 14:52.22 | Dogmai | im just like NO |
| 14:52.25 | Dogmai | -_- |
| 14:52.42 | Dogmai | both tofu devs dead |
| 14:52.49 | Taintedwisp | I have GOT to get these damned events done...., But I cant find the fucking time I keep having to clean up after my data editor... |
| 14:52.50 | Dogmai | But we did find out something really cool |
| 14:53.00 | Dogmai | In the second game |
| 14:53.03 | Taintedwisp | He makes an ability... doesnt make it levelable correctly, and bugs the hell outta the hero |
| 14:53.06 | Dogmai | It went something like 20-10 right |
| 14:53.15 | Dogmai | And we though, damn, we might have to feed them in the second round |
| 14:53.22 | Dogmai | The second round went 10-20 (no feeding) |
| 14:53.27 | Dogmai | and I am like fuck yes |
| 14:53.33 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 14:53.34 | Dogmai | That is exactly what we were wanting |
| 14:53.39 | Dogmai | loosing a round doesnt mean loosing the game |
| 14:53.45 | Dogmai | you always have a chance for a comeback |
| 14:54.53 | Taintedwisp | Any triggerer wanna write about 10 triggers for me, and put them in pastebin? i cant find the damn time to do them..... -_- i gotta work on 30 units add missiles, to each of their attacks so their attacks have visuals |
| 14:55.07 | Taintedwisp | Also I am thinking of adding melee units back into the game |
| 14:55.08 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 14:55.17 | Taintedwisp | < removed Melee units |
| 14:55.37 | Taintedwisp | well i set all their attacks to a range of 2 |
| 14:55.48 | Taintedwisp | But.... it looks boring during fights |
| 14:56.15 | Taintedwisp | But yeah Dogmai that sounds aweosme |
| 14:56.21 | Taintedwisp | Tell me when the next test is... |
| 14:56.44 | Dogmai | We need to fix a few things |
| 14:56.46 | Taintedwisp | sand DONT FUCKING FORGET DAMMIT |
| 14:56.49 | Dogmai | I don't know where dryeyece is |
| 14:56.56 | Taintedwisp | I AM NOT THAT FAGGOT FOCKEWULF |
| 14:56.57 | Dogmai | its still early |
| 14:57.00 | Dogmai | yea |
| 14:57.02 | Dogmai | mate |
| 14:57.05 | Dogmai | how do you think I felt |
| 14:57.08 | Taintedwisp | Thats me |
| 14:57.23 | Dogmai | When someone pointed me out that I had invited fockewulf |
| 14:57.28 | IShadowWolf | Just remember its 1shadowwolf ::P |
| 14:57.29 | Dogmai | I am like ... |
| 14:57.32 | Dogmai | OH FUCK |
| 14:57.40 | Dustin|Work | Lol I wondered wtf he was doing in that chan |
| 14:58.07 | KingPopsicle | I also go by this name on occasion |
| 14:58.40 | KingPopsicle | and that fag fockewulf and claim he had his name first but mine was created in 1996.... |
| 14:59.10 | KingPopsicle | < claims all the wolf names for now on haha |
| 14:59.29 | Dogmai | THis is why you should be known as TAINTEDWISP |
| 14:59.30 | Taintedwisp | ahhah did he say anything to the Devs? |
| 14:59.33 | Dogmai | ON YOUR BNET PROFILE |
| 14:59.34 | Dogmai | Damnit |
| 14:59.37 | Dogmai | nah, he was afk |
| 14:59.48 | Dogmai | thank god |
| 14:59.53 | Taintedwisp | NO I AM ISHADOWWOLF MY BROTHERS ARE SUGARWOLF/Razorwolf, and SteelWolf... |
| 15:00.01 | Taintedwisp | The Wolf Pack has been going for over 14 years... |
| 15:00.05 | Dogmai | And apparently Fockewulf too |
| 15:00.24 | Taintedwisp | I WOULDNT MISPELL WOLF LIKE A JACKASS |
| 15:00.32 | Taintedwisp | ahha |
| 15:00.52 | Taintedwisp | it deserves caps to explain my hate for whiny bitches like him,. |
| 15:01.16 | Taintedwisp | < Southern American, who wasnt raised into that generation Y bullshit |
| 15:01.26 | Taintedwisp | Southern States American rather |
| 15:01.45 | Taintedwisp | < Thinks fockewulf is from the northern states... |
| 15:01.50 | Taintedwisp | fuck those northern states... |
| 15:03.31 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 15:03.40 | Taintedwisp | So dogmai whens your next test / release? |
| 15:03.47 | Dogmai | we can do one now |
| 15:03.52 | Dogmai | but I wanna upload it to hots |
| 15:04.06 | Taintedwisp | kk Tell me whenever i have been wanting to test it for a good bit |
| 15:04.12 | Taintedwisp | I got hots too :P |
| 15:05.35 | Taintedwisp | Dogmai I am really surprised you havent commented on EWs post about the world ending, :P http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/off-topic/46456-december-21st/#p1 Nothing about AoS 2? |
| 15:05.36 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 15:06.56 | Dogmai | My support is waning for Sc2mapster |
| 15:07.04 | Dogmai | With the recent changes with Blizzard's forums |
| 15:07.20 | Dogmai | I do not really see myself staying at Mapster if things do not change |
| 15:07.53 | Taintedwisp | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:08.13 | Dogmai | I would rather have the Blizzard staff as Moderators than an egotistical crazy christian |
| 15:08.33 | Taintedwisp | I dont see Mapster Changing, But then again Blizzard isnt giving us much to work with as far as format on their website... |
| 15:08.43 | Taintedwisp | No linking, pictures, Quick view of last post |
| 15:08.48 | Blizz-Deletarius | :| |
| 15:08.52 | Taintedwisp | if those 3 were changed then sure 100% |
| 15:09.03 | Blizz-Deletarius | we're discussing it all internally |
| 15:09.04 | Taintedwisp | Hey Deletarius :D |
| 15:09.08 | Taintedwisp | Sweet |
| 15:09.09 | Blizz-Deletarius | no eta, no promises |
| 15:09.12 | Blizz-Deletarius | but |
| 15:09.15 | Blizz-Deletarius | we're talking about it |
| 15:09.20 | Taintedwisp | If those 3 things get fixed, Then I would deff pick battle.net over mapster |
| 15:09.25 | Blizz-Deletarius | :) |
| 15:09.28 | Dogmai | Good morning mate |
| 15:09.36 | Blizz-Deletarius | well the thing too is |
| 15:09.45 | Blizz-Deletarius | Curse's support for Mapster |
| 15:09.47 | Taintedwisp | Good Morning Deletarius ( and for once its morning for me too ) haha |
| 15:09.50 | Blizz-Deletarius | hah |
| 15:09.53 | Blizz-Deletarius | morning everyonre |
| 15:09.55 | Blizz-Deletarius | everyone |
| 15:09.55 | Dogmai | I didn't realise you were watching -_- |
| 15:10.03 | Blizz-Deletarius | I had just gotten in |
| 15:10.31 | Dogmai | Curse's support for Mapster is basically non-existant |
| 15:10.52 | Taintedwisp | Yeahh.... Hence why I have to google search, Textureselect by id, Sc2mapster |
| 15:12.35 | zenxu | dog |
| 15:12.37 | Taintedwisp | I gotta find some dedicated teammates... Or get the ones I have now to work better.... which I know is an assholish thing to say considering I'm not paying either of them... but... still I am spending everyday now going back and fixing things that were only broken due to carelessness... |
| 15:12.40 | zenxu | when are we gona play? |
| 15:12.44 | zenxu | any ideas? |
| 15:12.53 | Blizz-Deletarius | afk a sec |
| 15:13.43 | Zolden | anyone on EU wanna test my TD map? |
| 15:13.54 | Taintedwisp | http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/12/19/diablo-3-account-bans-issued-to-several-thousand-players-using-bots/ |
| 15:14.03 | Taintedwisp | EU? |
| 15:14.05 | ckSynergy | &yawns* morning |
| 15:14.16 | Taintedwisp | Dang if only you had been a cool american.. then sure :P |
| 15:14.50 | Taintedwisp | < in a great mood today... Even with everything that could surely go wrong |
| 15:16.56 | ckSynergy | lol |
| 15:17.36 | ckSynergy | well, after 6 months of testing, trial and error, and many many headaches, I think I finally figured out how blizzard weasled their way around the inventory system |
| 15:17.40 | ckSynergy | :P |
| 15:20.10 | ckSynergy | 1 shop unit, 1 interact ability, a trigger with event "unit is created", and using the function "agent of player" which takes the "interact unit" for a unit with an interact ability. To get the agent, you simply use "owner of (created unit)". |
| 15:21.37 | Taintedwisp | hahaah |
| 15:22.03 | Taintedwisp | Sounds like a lot of work... |
| 15:23.49 | ckSynergy | actually, no, its the easiest solution |
| 15:24.04 | ckSynergy | that will actually return the buying unit without any headaches |
| 15:24.49 | ckSynergy | and I tried just about every method in the book and even came up with a few new methods lol |
| 15:25.31 | Taintedwisp | ckSynergy Imma laugh my ass off if in HoTS they have a prebuilt inventory.... haha |
| 15:26.13 | Taintedwisp | that would be screwed up, you take all that time getting an inventory then Hots comes out a few months later and BAM.... |
| 15:29.39 | ckSynergy | ummm |
| 15:30.03 | ckSynergy | Well honestly with this function, I dont see how it could be any more "prebuilt" |
| 15:30.18 | ckSynergy | I mean, they could definitely use to fix up all the broken areas of it |
| 15:30.40 | ckSynergy | but the "agent of player" trigger thing is so far the most elegant solution I've seen |
| 15:36.54 | zenxu | I bet only "people" playing d3 are bots |
| 15:37.05 | zenxu | and they are only people posting on d3 forums too |
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| 15:37.45 | ckSynergy | lol |
| 15:38.03 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 15:39.06 | ckSynergy | Blizz-Deletarius: Merry Christmas and Happy New Years in advance to all of you @ Blizz HQ. :) |
| 15:39.17 | Blizz-Deletarius | thanks ck :) |
| 15:39.50 | zenxu | wow arent you buddy buddy with blizz |
| 15:41.11 | A1win | he's being nice, there must be a hidden agenda! |
| 15:41.20 | TheSkunk__ | We're all buddy buddy with Delete |
| 15:41.22 | TheSkunk__ | :O |
| 15:41.22 | zenxu | he is being ncie to blizz |
| 15:41.52 | A1win | ._õ |
| 15:42.55 | Monkalizer | well.... eh... merry christmas to all of you :P |
| 15:43.03 | zenxu | much better |
| 15:43.05 | ckSynergy | lol |
| 15:43.05 | zenxu | same to you! |
| 15:43.14 | duckies | eh, blizz devs do get respect points, for things like doing forum work on weekends, so they're cool. :D.. yea, merry christmas! |
| 15:43.19 | ckSynergy | ^ |
| 15:43.31 | ckSynergy | and they put up with our insults and bitching lol |
| 15:43.37 | ckSynergy | and keep coming back lol |
| 15:43.38 | Monkalizer | lol |
| 15:45.22 | duckies | so, anyone up for barcraft later on? |
| 15:46.18 | Taintedwisp | Trying to make my events look good... |
| 15:46.21 | Dustin|Work | Im NA, and also I played it once and was confused as fuck |
| 15:46.27 | Taintedwisp | BUT I SUCK AT TRIGGERS!!! |
| 15:46.28 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 15:46.36 | Dustin|Work | Triggers are easy Tainted! |
| 15:46.53 | Blizz-Deletarius | afk for a while |
| 15:47.16 | Taintedwisp | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:47.21 | zenxu | duckies: ME |
| 15:47.28 | Taintedwisp | Seems I am always cleaning up after my teammates these days... |
| 15:47.38 | duckies | I know zenxu :D |
| 15:47.47 | duckies | would be cool to see how it plays with 8 players |
| 15:47.55 | duckies | Just read the rules page :# |
| 15:47.58 | duckies | *:3 |
| 15:48.26 | duckies | yeah dustin, our first time was confusing as well |
| 15:48.28 | Zolden | duck and zenxu, another test? |
| 15:48.37 | zenxu | not now |
| 15:48.46 | Zolden | duckies |
| 15:48.53 | duckies | I can test |
| 15:48.56 | Zolden | i made some changes |
| 15:48.59 | Zolden | come then |
| 15:49.24 | Dustin|Work | Man, I have an urge to make a SC2 Boardgame |
| 15:49.26 | duckies | coming |
| 15:49.31 | Zolden | Ahli, wanna test my td? |
| 15:49.36 | Zolden | anyone else from EU? |
| 15:50.00 | Zolden | i saw sc boa\rd game |
| 15:50.07 | Zolden | with units and stuff |
| 15:51.17 | Dustin|Work | Yeah I saw one that was trying to mimic the actual SC boardgame |
| 15:51.24 | Dustin|Work | But I want to make one that's sooo much cooler |
| 15:54.35 | Taintedwisp | and all of the sudden I feel like someone has fucked up the event triggers I have been slowly making... |
| 15:54.40 | Taintedwisp | GOT DAMMIT |
| 15:58.51 | Taintedwisp | There |
| 15:58.54 | Taintedwisp | Got it working again... |
| 16:01.36 | ckSynergy | dang it |
| 16:01.50 | ckSynergy | I can never remember the function to retrieve the actually value for a catalog field |
| 16:07.29 | Taintedwisp | Is there a way to Apply a damage effect to a region? |
| 16:07.42 | Dustin|Work | select all units in the region |
| 16:07.46 | Dustin|Work | and apply the damage effect :P |
| 16:07.48 | Taintedwisp | hmmm |
| 16:08.02 | Taintedwisp | Danget, Everytime Select all units is used, something breaks haha |
| 16:08.10 | Taintedwisp | < hates triggers sooo damn bad |
| 16:08.35 | Dustin|Work | That makes no sense :P |
| 16:09.31 | Dustin|Work | I need to remake my WC3 Aggro system for sc2 |
| 16:09.46 | ckSynergy | Tainted: you dont need to select the units |
| 16:10.14 | ckSynergy | Pick each unit in region (X,Y,radius) and do: apply damage effect |
| 16:10.23 | Dustin|Work | Unit Group = Units In Region Matching Condition, For Each Unit in Unit Group, Apply Damage Effect |
| 16:10.30 | Taintedwisp | oh okay |
| 16:10.44 | Dustin|Work | I think you need to read some basic programming books tainted :P |
| 16:10.49 | Taintedwisp | But dustin will that also Include the units entering the region? |
| 16:10.55 | Taintedwisp | hahaa |
| 16:10.56 | Dustin|Work | Doesn't seem like you grasp the process of :P |
| 16:11.10 | Dustin|Work | Ok so |
| 16:11.14 | Dustin|Work | What do you need it to do |
| 16:11.26 | Dustin|Work | The way we said will apply once to units in that region |
| 16:11.50 | Zolden | hmm, can I change damage effect's amount via catalog? |
| 16:11.57 | Zolden | it doesn't show its name |
| 16:12.00 | Taintedwisp | I need a Reoccuring effect that damages any unit in that region |
| 16:12.12 | Taintedwisp | It needs to apply like 2.5damage every second |
| 16:12.17 | Dustin|Work | Oh easy |
| 16:12.24 | Taintedwisp | Its a 2 1/2 minute event :P |
| 16:12.26 | Dustin|Work | Just run the trigger we gave you in a 2.5 second periodic |
| 16:12.48 | Taintedwisp | Okay question I only want this trigger to be run by another trigger how would I do that? |
| 16:12.57 | Dustin|Work | Disable the trigger at start |
| 16:13.02 | Dustin|Work | by right clicking it |
| 16:13.03 | Taintedwisp | oh okay |
| 16:13.08 | Dustin|Work | Then use another trigger to turn it on when needed |
| 16:13.44 | Taintedwisp | kk |
| 16:14.15 | Taintedwisp | < REALLY new at triggers, But since my triggerer, who is... doing nothing.. doesnt want to do them I have to do these damn things... |
| 16:14.36 | Taintedwisp | Then I can finally get back to my Data work that I have to do |
| 16:15.02 | Dustin|Work | You dont have any kind of programming background do you? |
| 16:15.49 | Taintedwisp | I took 2 semesters in highschool learning Visual Basic |
| 16:15.52 | Taintedwisp | Then forgot it all.. |
| 16:15.56 | G0A | rofl CNN: http://youtu.be/5uwAo8lcAC4?t=11m25s |
| 16:16.11 | Dustin|Work | Hehe oh Visual Basic how I hate/love you |
| 16:16.53 | Taintedwisp | hah |
| 16:16.57 | Taintedwisp | I still hate triggers.. bad |
| 16:20.47 | Taintedwisp | Wiat dustin why you hate me :( |
| 16:22.16 | Dustin|Work | I dont, why lol |
| 16:23.38 | Taintedwisp | Whats wrong with visual basic :P |
| 16:23.57 | Taintedwisp | I got good enough to make menus, slots, cards, and PC shutdown... yeah I sucked |
| 16:24.05 | ckSynergy | anyone remember the function to convert a string to the text value? |
| 16:24.20 | ckSynergy | example: "Units/Name" becomes "Marine" |
| 16:24.27 | Dogmai | StringExternal() |
| 16:24.34 | ckSynergy | ty |
| 16:25.26 | ckSynergy | know the GUI function name by chance? lol |
| 16:25.59 | Dogmai | there is no gui function |
| 16:26.04 | Dogmai | You can make one |
| 16:26.21 | Dogmai | fuck, in hindsight |
| 16:26.26 | Dogmai | thats what i should have done |
| 16:26.30 | Dogmai | i never thought about it before |
| 16:26.47 | ckSynergy | lol |
| 16:26.51 | ckSynergy | actually, there is one |
| 16:26.54 | ckSynergy | I know I used it before |
| 16:27.00 | ckSynergy | I just cant, for the life of me, remember it |
| 16:27.09 | ckSynergy | It's not named stringexternal though |
| 16:27.21 | ckSynergy | I remember that much lol |
| 16:28.47 | Dogmai | i dont believe there is |
| 16:28.52 | Dogmai | imma spam chat, sorry everyone |
| 16:28.57 | Dogmai | StringExternal |
| 16:28.58 | Dogmai | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.00 | Dogmai | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.02 | Dogmai | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.04 | Dogmai | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.05 | Dogmai | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.07 | Dogmai | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.08 | Dogmai | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.10 | Dogmai | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.12 | Dogmai | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.14 | Dogmai | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.16 | Dogmai | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.17 | Dogmai | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.19 | Dogmai | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.20 | Dogmai | very easy to make |
| 16:29.28 | Dustin|Work | Once you get a taste of real programming, you wont ask that question Taintedwisp :P |
| 16:29.40 | Taintedwisp | ahh lol |
| 16:30.21 | Dustin|Work | I love that you can tie GUI functions to Internal functions |
| 16:30.32 | Dustin|Work | Makes shit nice |
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| 16:33.15 | ckSynergy | ah here it is |
| 16:33.19 | ckSynergy | "Convert Game Text" |
| 16:34.06 | ckSynergy | ^ blizz function for "String External" |
| 16:35.44 | Dogmai | o_O |
| 16:35.47 | Dogmai | I never knew that existed |
| 16:36.02 | ckSynergy | lol yup |
| 16:36.17 | ckSynergy | I found it awhile back, I just can never remember the function name |
| 16:36.25 | ckSynergy | lol |
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| 16:52.29 | mille25 | hi |
| 16:53.36 | Dustin|Work | ello |
| 16:54.03 | zenxu | running out of space lol |
| 16:54.12 | zenxu | had 24kt on my C drive just a min ago |
| 16:54.15 | zenxu | couldnt even same my map :D |
| 16:55.19 | zenxu | anyone up for BARCRAFT on beta?!?!? |
| 16:57.00 | duckies | I'm always up, if we can get at least 1 more |
| 16:57.15 | duckies | exaken, I summon you! |
| 16:57.43 | Exaken | maybe later |
| 16:57.46 | duckies | will you join us on our face smashing adventure to get trunk on virtual beer? |
| 16:57.47 | duckies | :/ |
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| 16:57.56 | duckies | *drunk x_x |
| 16:58.28 | duckies | dustin, did you clone yourself? |
| 16:58.55 | duckies | it appears that one of you is on work, while other is free from constrains of modern world and need to earn money :D |
| 16:59.07 | Dustin|Work | What! |
| 16:59.25 | Dustin|Work | Oh that's my home comp |
| 16:59.38 | Dustin|Work | I'm an idleing fiend |
| 16:59.39 | duckies | I see |
| 16:59.53 | Dustin|Work | Wish I could switch places with the Home Dustin :( |
| 17:00.10 | duckies | we wish that too :'( |
| 17:01.06 | zenxu | finally got murky outpost upgrades done |
| 17:01.17 | zenxu | now I need to transfer to magic city |
| 17:01.53 | Exaken | How did this even get on kickstarter? http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1376466869/lore-0?ref=live looks so pathetic |
| 17:02.45 | zenxu | lololol o:D |
| 17:02.47 | zenxu | thats hilarious |
| 17:02.55 | Exaken | look at his previous kickstarter |
| 17:03.05 | Exaken | he asked 1,500,000 |
| 17:03.36 | zenxu | lol BLEACH model there xD |
| 17:03.39 | zenxu | ichigoooooo |
| 17:04.18 | zenxu | bwahahha |
| 17:04.26 | G0A | Exaken thats kickstarter trolling isnt it?:D |
| 17:04.48 | zenxu | I think its just a scam attempt |
| 17:05.01 | Dustin|Work | What a horrible kickstarter |
| 17:05.07 | zenxu | some dedicated/retarded trolling if it would be a troll |
| 17:05.48 | duckies | it looks like something made by 16-years old |
| 17:05.53 | Dustin|Work | yaaa |
| 17:05.58 | Dustin|Work | or egod |
| 17:06.38 | G0A | more like 10 years old |
| 17:07.20 | duckies | "your feed back be taking into account".. |
| 17:09.46 | duckies | yyeah, I'm pretty sure it's just a troll kickstatrter where guy backed himself by 600$$ and a bunch of friends threw some dollars at that for fun >.> |
| 17:10.00 | zenxu | but how does he even get 1dollar? |
| 17:10.04 | zenxu | yes |
| 17:11.06 | Taintedwisp | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:11.11 | Taintedwisp | https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/000/296/690/83dafc64e370c910938f5fc9648c996c_large.JPG?1354911761 |
| 17:12.50 | Taintedwisp | hahah if you pledge 900$ you get... 10$ off... |
| 17:12.52 | Taintedwisp | bwahhaah |
| 17:13.36 | Dustin|Work | lol |
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| 17:14.47 | zenxu | cant we get one more player |
| 17:14.52 | zenxu | I feel like playing something |
| 17:14.58 | Ahli | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7415152934#1 Blizz-Deletarius, something is wrong in Blizzard's internal communications. Why is that posted on US only? it's clearly addressing Europeans. -.- |
| 17:15.45 | G0A | Ahli HAHA |
| 17:16.01 | Dustin|Work | wtf, people actually pledged money to that kick starter? |
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| 17:20.10 | hobbidude | question for deletarius if he's on |
| 17:20.20 | Blizz-Deletarius | hi |
| 17:20.30 | hobbidude | hi, ok.... |
| 17:21.18 | Blizz-Deletarius | thanks ahli |
| 17:21.29 | Blizz-Deletarius | I'll re-post it |
| 17:21.33 | hobbidude | by would a an action definition that set and returns a units custom value show a different number that a trigger that on key press said what the current custom value of the same unit is? |
| 17:22.09 | Ahli | I posted it on TL earlier today. should give Blizzard a lot of more players during that time |
| 17:22.14 | Taintedwisp | No ahli theres wanst any mistakes, What they ment is they want the Europeans that abandoned it and went to america to be online at those times.. OBVIOUSLY |
| 17:22.29 | Taintedwisp | There weren't |
| 17:22.56 | zenxu | I would got and play the beta if I got some players with me |
| 17:22.59 | zenxu | DELETARIUS |
| 17:23.02 | zenxu | come play hots beta |
| 17:23.10 | zenxu | with me and cuky |
| 17:23.12 | zenxu | ducky |
| 17:23.48 | hobbidude | wow |
| 17:23.53 | hobbidude | sorry did you understand that |
| 17:23.56 | hobbidude | should start why |
| 17:24.09 | duckies | yes zenxu |
| 17:24.19 | Blizz-Deletarius | ok, cool, I posted it on the forum and stickied it |
| 17:24.30 | zenxu | now to your next job...TO PLAY WITH US |
| 17:24.47 | Blizz-Deletarius | I play HoTS beta during lunch :) |
| 17:24.49 | zenxu | you would imagine when you see game that polished people would wana play it |
| 17:24.50 | zenxu | but noooo |
| 17:24.57 | Blizz-Deletarius | I've been playing it quite a while |
| 17:25.11 | zenxu | (and Im talking about barcarft) |
| 17:25.15 | zenxu | thats what we are trying to get players for |
| 17:25.36 | Blizz-Deletarius | Leagues are kinda messed up...was GM, got booted from inactivity, then went to Bronze? |
| 17:25.47 | Taintedwisp | hahaha |
| 17:26.50 | Blizz-Deletarius | Hobbi, no idea, sorry |
| 17:26.57 | hobbidude | oh and deletarius i gotta bug for you |
| 17:27.08 | Ahli | hots bnet offline :S |
| 17:27.15 | Blizz-Deletarius | :| |
| 17:27.15 | duckies | it is? |
| 17:27.17 | hobbidude | the distance tool does not return pathing if the ends are one different cliff heights |
| 17:27.19 | Exaken | yup:/ |
| 17:27.20 | duckies | I just joined a min ago |
| 17:27.21 | duckies | D: |
| 17:27.49 | duckies | aaand I logged off and it's down |
| 17:28.01 | Blizz-Deletarius | that's weird hobbi |
| 17:28.03 | zenxu | pfffffff |
| 17:28.14 | Ahli | does the distance tool go over ramps, yet? |
| 17:28.26 | hobbidude | i've tried if everyway |
| 17:28.40 | hobbidude | now the triggering pathing calcuations are correct |
| 17:28.44 | hobbidude | but the tool isn;t |
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| 17:29.25 | zenxu | hmpf I guess Ill go off for a while then |
| 17:29.29 | zenxu | perhaps we shall try again later |
| 17:29.33 | zenxu | to get players or something |
| 17:29.40 | Ahli | ahh, you just reminded me of the best crash I had in sc2... it tried to divide by zero in a cliff checking function internally... |
| 17:31.13 | hobbidude | cliffs return -1 |
| 17:31.23 | hobbidude | if its like an island |
| 17:31.25 | Ahli | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uwAo8lcAC4&feature=youtu.be&t=11m25s :D news business is laughable |
| 17:31.46 | Ahli | then it can't detect ramps, yet. |
| 17:32.41 | Ahli | oh, I found the link here, nevermind then |
| 17:33.13 | hobbidude | it can detect ramps |
| 17:33.29 | hobbidude | at least in triggers |
| 17:51.38 | G0A | Ahli http://youtu.be/5uwAo8lcAC4?t=11m25s is pretty lol, CNN sucks hard. |
| 17:52.18 | Dogmai | i just finished wachin that |
| 17:52.26 | Dogmai | its always to be expected |
| 17:52.28 | Dogmai | night |
| 17:54.38 | Ahli | watched the whole thing :D damned... can I revoke the right to vote from the people that can't use the thing attached to their neck? also, banning everyone that randomly posted on other people's facebook page flaming them (like a person with the same name as the shooter)... |
| 17:54.42 | duckies | g0a, extended cut fetched from b-net forums http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHzTlkAGNIE&feature=youtu.be |
| 17:55.57 | duckies | hm, that guy reminds me of dr. narud from sc2.. it all makes sense now :D |
| 17:56.27 | duckies | he just doesn't want people to play games to find his secret :/ |
| 17:57.30 | Ahli | hots beta down for everyone or just Europeans? |
| 17:57.57 | Exaken | It's for me down |
| 17:58.36 | TheSkunk__ | everyone |
| 18:01.08 | Taintedwisp | wake your ass up dogmai |
| 18:01.11 | Taintedwisp | its 1 pm |
| 18:01.17 | Taintedwisp | America time is the only time |
| 18:02.00 | Ahli | 1pm? time to get dinner |
| 18:02.10 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 18:02.18 | Ahli | it's 7pm for me |
| 18:02.25 | Taintedwisp | ahli says he has to get the early bird special at the senior center |
| 18:02.37 | Taintedwisp | its 1pm, the only TIME IS AMERICA TIME DAMMIT |
| 18:02.43 | Zolden | when will they put my new uploaded map into fun or not? |
| 18:02.48 | Ahli | no, tainted. I did that for my dinner today |
| 18:02.55 | Taintedwisp | wait 7pm :P still early as hell haah |
| 18:02.57 | Ahli | they opened 15 minutes late :S |
| 18:03.01 | Taintedwisp | < doesnt usually eat till around 11 or 12 |
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| 18:04.15 | Dustin|Work | Im hungry |
| 18:04.39 | Taintedwisp | hey hungry i'm taintedwisp |
| 18:04.45 | Taintedwisp | nice to meet you |
| 18:04.50 | Ahli | *meat |
| 18:05.04 | Dustin|Work | eats Taintedwisp |
| 18:05.08 | Zolden | why ppl use 7pm instead of 19? |
| 18:05.14 | Dustin|Work | 19? eww |
| 18:05.17 | Zolden | lol |
| 18:05.19 | Dustin|Work | 14 hour time is lame |
| 18:05.22 | Dustin|Work | 24* |
| 18:05.41 | Taintedwisp | actually There was a REAL reason for this one unlike others... |
| 18:05.44 | Zolden | in russia we use 0-23 hours instead of am/pm |
| 18:05.44 | Dustin|Work | I work for a timeclock company, MY TIME OPINIONS ARE CORRECT |
| 18:05.55 | Sixen | In Russia, time uses you. |
| 18:05.59 | Zolden | :)) |
| 18:06.06 | Dustin|Work | Yeah It makes sense |
| 18:06.16 | Dustin|Work | But Im too used to am/pm now |
| 18:06.38 | Dustin|Work | I do work with every kind of time formating you can think of though :P |
| 18:07.12 | Taintedwisp | Sixens back from the 90s I see |
| 18:07.14 | Taintedwisp | :))) |
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| 18:09.41 | Zolden | anyone on EU wanna test my map? |
| 18:09.53 | Zolden | conservative td lovers say ti's team battle |
| 18:11.18 | Zolden | Ahli: you wanna try it? |
| 18:12.29 | Ahli | can I eat in the meantime? |
| 18:13.32 | Zolden | eat first |
| 18:13.38 | Zolden | theyre u need to do stuff |
| 18:14.08 | Ahli | what should I do in my bachelor thesis? parallel programming or mobile apps? |
| 18:15.01 | Dustin|Work | Parallel |
| 18:15.40 | Taintedwisp | And... I see EternalWrath is pretty dumb... |
| 18:15.45 | Zolden | both |
| 18:19.35 | Taintedwisp | Anywho |
| 18:19.46 | Ahli | teamliquid's streams are so dota infested :S |
| 18:19.53 | Taintedwisp | Screw these triggers... i hate them sooo bad these dirtbag triggers |
| 18:21.24 | Taintedwisp | How do I add spaced in the text editor? when I run the text in triggers the first word isnt spaced forward to be in the center like I want it. |
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| 18:26.01 | Taintedwisp | < such a bad triggerer its not funny anymore |
| 18:26.02 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 18:27.07 | Ahli | what can't you solve this time? |
| 18:28.38 | zenxu | tainted where do you come up with that shit?!?! |
| 18:28.44 | zenxu | game should never be balanced... :D |
| 18:29.09 | zenxu | stop it! :D |
| 18:29.14 | zenxu | you silly buns |
| 18:30.12 | Taintedwisp | A game shouldnt be ever fully balanced :P |
| 18:30.32 | Taintedwisp | That would mean that after the initial endgame stratagies are figured out... the game is done... whats the point of playing if you can never do anything new |
| 18:32.48 | Taintedwisp | I play starcraft so i can figure out new stratagies :P, not to reach a ceiling and never do anything |
| 18:33.05 | Taintedwisp | I dont want to memorize 6 stratagies and auto win every game i mean |
| 18:33.40 | G0A | it should be like chess... countless possibilities... |
| 18:34.20 | zenxu | ty goa, you saved me the trouble of explaining |
| 18:34.49 | Taintedwisp | Wait... |
| 18:34.55 | Taintedwisp | wasnt there a penny arcade video about this... |
| 18:35.18 | Taintedwisp | http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/perfect-imbalance |
| 18:35.23 | Taintedwisp | That should explain it a bit more |
| 18:35.31 | Taintedwisp | < sucks at explaining things |
| 18:35.50 | zenxu | someone summarize it for me |
| 18:36.02 | zenxu | so I can even consider if tainted could prove some points |
| 18:36.26 | Taintedwisp | just watch the video... |
| 18:36.27 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 18:36.38 | zenxu | ooh its a video |
| 18:36.42 | zenxu | I guess ill look then |
| 18:36.44 | Ahli | 6 pool > 15 pool > 8 pool > 6 pool.... basically this :D in terms of sc2 melee |
| 18:37.19 | Ahli | other example: hero A > hero B > hero C > hero A |
| 18:39.30 | Taintedwisp | Pretty much Something is made Overpowered, but there will always be something better later :P allowing stratagies to grow and change |
| 18:40.17 | G0A | as long everything can be countered the game is balanced. |
| 18:43.01 | zenxu | well I would not say you can even call it imbalanced |
| 18:43.06 | Taintedwisp | not only that, but it also states that people will QQ and call something Imbalanced until another unit composition is found to be better, which is what has been happening |
| 18:43.11 | zenxu | thats pretty vague statement when there is a counter for it |
| 18:43.31 | zenxu | I feel like imbalance is being used as provocative statement rather than being actually imbalanced |
| 18:43.52 | zenxu | if you think like dota...certain matchups were harder than others, but you werent useless ever |
| 18:45.00 | zenxu | but I guess you could call it "perfect imbalance" |
| 18:45.04 | zenxu | even thou I dont like that term |
| 18:46.26 | Ahli | it's the never ending cycle of people crying OP which is fueled by every new hero added to the game |
| 18:46.48 | zenxu | isnt that just because most people dont know how to play? |
| 18:46.49 | zenxu | and feed |
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| 18:51.49 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 18:54.53 | Lajjla | Taintedwisp, brometheus |
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| 18:57.05 | Monkalizer | i have this secret dream of becoming a game developer |
| 18:57.21 | Monkalizer | but i dont know if my skills are enough to actually land a job somewhere... :( |
| 18:57.44 | Monkalizer | is there some way to do a reality-check so that i would know if its possible? |
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| 18:58.11 | Saeris1 | make shit, get it out there, have people play it |
| 18:58.16 | Daara | So...can we not extract files from MPQ files anymore with Ladik's Mpq editor? |
| 18:58.18 | Saeris1 | if they tell you that they would buy your game |
| 18:58.23 | Saeris1 | you should probably keep at it |
| 18:58.35 | Monkalizer | hm |
| 18:58.46 | Daara | I can't even open them anymore. |
| 18:59.00 | Saeris | but yea |
| 18:59.11 | Saeris | get enough games like that on your resume |
| 18:59.23 | Saeris | and you can use those as examples and as prior experience |
| 18:59.57 | Exaken | I can still open mpq's |
| 19:00.03 | Saeris | no one gets a job in the games industry having never made a game before, unless they somehow develop a game in a vacuum and star selling it and it becomes extremely popular |
| 19:00.10 | Monkalizer | still i would have to draw a line somewhere :S |
| 19:00.14 | Daara | hmm...wonder why i can't then... |
| 19:00.38 | Exaken | Do you have the game or the editor open? |
| 19:00.42 | Daara | no |
| 19:00.49 | Daara | i tried with D3, WoW, and SC2 |
| 19:00.52 | Daara | none were open |
| 19:00.55 | Monkalizer | Daara A) file is damaged B) extractor is damaged C) both are damaged |
| 19:01.12 | Daara | i have 5 different versions of the mpq editor |
| 19:01.23 | Daara | and i doubt my mpq files are damaged cause i still play all 3 games -_- |
| 19:01.43 | Monkalizer | have you managed to open them before? |
| 19:01.48 | Daara | yea |
| 19:01.55 | Daara | it's been awile though |
| 19:02.05 | Monkalizer | are you opening them from "inside the extractor" |
| 19:02.33 | Daara | keeps telling me Access is Denied |
| 19:02.36 | Saeris | also Monkalizer, you won't get a job unless you go out and apply for them. If you don't succeed to get te first job you interview for, you shouldn't give up, should just keep trying and take that experience as a lesson abnout what to do better next time |
| 19:04.28 | Monkalizer | yeah, its just that ive been unemployed for a while and i have this feeling that its too late for me, that im getting too old and that i should just shave and get a real job somewhere, not dream about these rockstar daydreams which i think being a gamedev is |
| 19:04.42 | Monkalizer | = just be realistic and forget about it |
| 19:06.04 | Saeris | well, you'll never get a job in the industry with that attitude. shit, if money is a problem, get a jod elsewhere to support yourself in the mean time |
| 19:06.11 | zenxu | is beta back up yet? |
| 19:06.20 | Monkalizer | making mods and webgames began as a way to keep my skills up to date while i was finishing my degree and applied for "serious" jobs. Now it has kind of taken over ^^ |
| 19:06.31 | Saeris | also, apply for QA jobs if you don't think you can make it off the bat as a programmer or designer |
| 19:06.38 | Exaken | yup zenxu |
| 19:06.56 | zenxu | Anyone wana come play barcraft on beta? |
| 19:06.58 | zenxu | the card game |
| 19:07.08 | Monkalizer | whats a qa - im swedish (questions n answers?) |
| 19:07.32 | Saeris | Quality Assurance tester |
| 19:07.41 | Daara | looks like it's just the WoW mpq's that won't open now -_- |
| 19:07.56 | Monkalizer | oh |
| 19:08.05 | Saeris | you spend a ton of time playing the games as they are being made, test them for bugs, submit feedback, etc |
| 19:08.30 | Daara | my ex-gf did that with blizzard |
| 19:08.33 | Daara | not sure if she still does it |
| 19:08.54 | Saeris | it introduces you to the process at the ground level and you move up based on your ability to show your aptitude for specific tasks |
| 19:09.43 | Saeris | such as hey, you notice a lot of art related bugs and you're an artist yourself. you take a lot of your findings straight to the artists and help them fix the bug, recognition from that helps you move up |
| 19:09.44 | Ahli | zenxu, I'm in for a round of barcraft |
| 19:09.54 | zenxu | we need like 3 atleast |
| 19:09.58 | zenxu | duckies: there? |
| 19:10.07 | duckies | here |
| 19:10.13 | duckies | I'll log in right away |
| 19:10.14 | zenxu | we got 3 for barcraft |
| 19:10.21 | zenxu | well Im gona take like 3 mins |
| 19:10.24 | zenxu | need to test map first |
| 19:10.35 | Ahli | go into mapster group chat |
| 19:11.01 | Saeris | it's a lot of long hours, hard work and dedication, but it pays the bills and it constantly gives you opportunities to prove your worth to the company |
| 19:12.17 | zenxu | we could still use more players for barcraft |
| 19:12.20 | zenxu | anyone else wana come? |
| 19:12.28 | Saeris | i'm good thanks |
| 19:12.54 | Ahli | I'm worth to a company without being a part of it :X |
| 19:16.59 | zenxu | starting up soon |
| 19:19.29 | Monkalizer | Saeris: im not entierly sure about the bill paying but the rest of it makes sense |
| 19:20.20 | Saeris | monkalizer the thing about working QA is usually you end up working a ton of overtime, especially when the shipping date is close |
| 19:20.55 | Saeris | it might not pay the highest wages, but you certainly get a ton of hours, unlike many jobs that pay the same rates |
| 19:21.08 | Monkalizer | hehe i dont mind working overtime - the problem is finding the job ^^ |
| 19:22.36 | zenxu | Blizz-Deletarius: there? |
| 19:24.30 | Blizz-Deletarius | hi |
| 19:24.43 | Taintedwisp | Hey Blizz-Deletarius |
| 19:24.52 | zenxu | si |
| 19:24.53 | zenxu | so |
| 19:24.57 | zenxu | I was gona say pretty weird |
| 19:24.57 | Taintedwisp | damn didnt mean to beep you... wasnt thinking |
| 19:25.04 | zenxu | in beta that you can join 2 chat channels of same name |
| 19:25.09 | Blizz-Deletarius | Saeris, that's not true "no one gets a job in the games industry having never made a game before, unless they somehow develop a game in a vacuum and star selling it and it becomes extremely popular" |
| 19:25.12 | zenxu | one for normal chat channel and one for group channel |
| 19:25.16 | zenxu | I think thats pretty stupid |
| 19:25.31 | Blizz-Deletarius | why? |
| 19:25.36 | Blizz-Deletarius | oh |
| 19:25.38 | Blizz-Deletarius | same name |
| 19:25.43 | zenxu | yes |
| 19:25.45 | Blizz-Deletarius | well |
| 19:25.48 | Blizz-Deletarius | think about it |
| 19:26.08 | zenxu | I think its just plain stupid to split people |
| 19:26.09 | Blizz-Deletarius | there's a TeamLiquid chat channel, and there's going to be a team liquid group, which will have a chat channel as well |
| 19:26.13 | zenxu | its all about making more social |
| 19:26.21 | Blizz-Deletarius | and there's also going to be a team liquid clan which will have a chat |
| 19:26.33 | zenxu | and you dont need to even join the group or anything right |
| 19:26.40 | zenxu | you can as well jsut hang out on chat channel |
| 19:26.46 | zenxu | so...its just weird imo |
| 19:26.50 | Blizz-Deletarius | those 3, while all having the same name, shouldn't have the same method of communication |
| 19:27.01 | Blizz-Deletarius | and I'll tell you why |
| 19:27.21 | TheSkunk__ | Sigh |
| 19:27.28 | duckies | exaken, still busy? |
| 19:27.29 | zenxu | so skunk you aint comin? |
| 19:27.33 | Taintedwisp | if you guys COULD split groups like that, then you could allow same names for groups with use of "Group Codes" Like you guys did with players name :P |
| 19:27.33 | Exaken | nop |
| 19:27.39 | Ahli | I can't browse in arcade on page 50, then joining a channel lolcats and continue browsing arcade past page 50 :S |
| 19:27.42 | Blizz-Deletarius | the current TeamLiquid chat channel isn't about the clan, it's just starcraft chat for people that use that website |
| 19:27.52 | duckies | come to beta then :D |
| 19:27.53 | TheSkunk__ | I'm trying to come |
| 19:27.56 | TheSkunk__ | evil battle.net |
| 19:27.57 | Ahli | we require join chat in right click everywhere in the bottom area |
| 19:28.07 | Blizz-Deletarius | well |
| 19:28.08 | Blizz-Deletarius | WE |
| 19:28.14 | Blizz-Deletarius | require more vespene gas |
| 19:28.18 | zenxu | Blizz-Deletarius: but groups arent clans either |
| 19:28.23 | Blizz-Deletarius | no they aren't |
| 19:28.24 | Blizz-Deletarius | but |
| 19:28.25 | zenxu | in wc3 you had specific clan channels |
| 19:28.28 | Blizz-Deletarius | ok |
| 19:28.31 | Blizz-Deletarius | zen |
| 19:28.34 | zenxu | aca /j clan sc2mapster |
| 19:28.35 | duckies | come exaken, we want you in beta :D |
| 19:28.35 | zenxu | and sc2mapster |
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| 19:28.38 | zenxu | NOT SAME NAME |
| 19:28.40 | zenxu | makes sense |
| 19:28.55 | Blizz-Deletarius | it was also a more hackey interface |
| 19:29.03 | Blizz-Deletarius | ie, having to type everything |
| 19:29.13 | zenxu | can you honestly say having same named chat channels but different things aint confusing? |
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| 19:29.40 | Blizz-Deletarius | zen, I'm telling you though, it makes sense from an implementation standpoint and a usage standpoint |
| 19:29.46 | zenxu | well its not a huge deal anyway |
| 19:29.58 | Blizz-Deletarius | like |
| 19:30.07 | Blizz-Deletarius | Clans are going to be limited in number |
| 19:30.32 | Blizz-Deletarius | does that mean that we should make it so that ONLY the people in the TL clan should be able to talk in the TL chat? |
| 19:30.41 | Blizz-Deletarius | or allow it to act as it does currently |
| 19:30.49 | Taintedwisp | < still would like clans to be allowed to be 150 |
| 19:30.53 | Blizz-Deletarius | I understand what you're saying |
| 19:31.06 | Blizz-Deletarius | tainted, that's the point of a group |
| 19:31.23 | Blizz-Deletarius | a group being a loosely affiliated and connected group of people |
| 19:31.41 | Blizz-Deletarius | a clan is a more deliberate sub-sect of people |
| 19:31.49 | zenxu | but I think it would make more sense to automatically to join GROUP chat instead of normal chat |
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| 19:31.52 | zenxu | why split up |
| 19:31.55 | zenxu | to 2 parts |
| 19:32.03 | zenxu | when you always want to join where all people are? |
| 19:32.07 | Taintedwisp | I'n a way, But a group is more similar to a Like page on facebook, then an actual mini community that can be grown over the years |
| 19:32.15 | Dustin|Work | Groups will be good for creating an enviroment for other players to talk about and play your maps |
| 19:32.20 | Taintedwisp | Though then again blizzard can always increase that clan limit when its needed |
| 19:32.24 | Blizz-Deletarius | of course |
| 19:32.27 | Saeris | yea Blizz-Deletarius I suppose that's true for some jobs within the industry, but from my experience it's very uncommong to get a development job without any prior experience |
| 19:32.41 | Blizz-Deletarius | game development, sure |
| 19:34.34 | zenxu | I still didnt think you pointed out why cant you automatically join group channel if possible |
| 19:34.39 | zenxu | but whatever... :/ |
| 19:34.45 | Blizz-Deletarius | ok |
| 19:34.49 | Blizz-Deletarius | so here's a prime example |
| 19:34.53 | Blizz-Deletarius | in hots |
| 19:35.00 | Blizz-Deletarius | I'm a member of a clan |
| 19:35.12 | Blizz-Deletarius | which is a group of people who are all part of a social network |
| 19:35.16 | zenxu | but there are no clans now? |
| 19:35.23 | zenxu | :D |
| 19:35.26 | Taintedwisp | < Still angry Guilds on the Horde Side arent called Clans in WoW |
| 19:35.34 | duckies | zenxu, there are clans.. |
| 19:35.40 | Blizz-Deletarius | the thing is |
| 19:35.47 | Blizz-Deletarius | prior to HoTS, and in WoL |
| 19:35.53 | Blizz-Deletarius | we all hung out in a chat channel |
| 19:36.01 | Blizz-Deletarius | in HoTS |
| 19:36.09 | Blizz-Deletarius | both the chat channel and the clan are both named the same thing |
| 19:36.16 | Blizz-Deletarius | now |
| 19:36.25 | Blizz-Deletarius | SOME of the people from the chat channel are part of the clan |
| 19:36.36 | Taintedwisp | < happy to have clans and groups and see the benefit from both, Clans are more of a dedicated thing, something you can rank up in etc similar to a wow guild, But groups are more like a Page you click like, and check for updates every now and then, If I have that correct? |
| 19:36.45 | Blizz-Deletarius | but others are part of other clans, we have a few complexity guys, and other clans as well that hang out in the channel |
| 19:37.11 | Blizz-Deletarius | both the clan and the chat again, have the exact same name |
| 19:37.23 | Blizz-Deletarius | and most cases, there are more people in the chat, than online from the clan |
| 19:37.45 | Blizz-Deletarius | see what I'm saying? |
| 19:37.58 | zenxu | Well I guess Ill see wheter it makes sense when we get hots |
| 19:38.52 | zenxu | I got bigger problems I would complain really :D |
| 19:38.55 | zenxu | so dunno why I picked that one |
| 19:39.10 | zenxu | example. I hat that the closing button is top right and other buttons are top left |
| 19:39.17 | zenxu | aint it anoying :D |
| 19:39.54 | zenxu | I would atleast want to have "back" button top left |
| 19:39.59 | zenxu | if you must have the x on right |
| 19:40.57 | zenxu | Im probly just nitpicking :D |
| 19:45.35 | Blizz-Deletarius | what do you mean? |
| 19:45.40 | Blizz-Deletarius | for the top-left thing |
| 19:47.51 | zenxu | like closer to all buttons |
| 19:47.55 | zenxu | :D |
| 19:48.08 | zenxu | all other buttons except the X are on left side |
| 19:49.39 | zenxu | that was mainly bothering cause Im not sure if I could leave the lobby to check out other things except for closing with X |
| 19:49.52 | zenxu | but im gona play barcraft now |
| 19:49.56 | zenxu | you may ignore my rambling :D |
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| 19:57.53 | duckies_ | guys |
| 19:57.57 | duckies_ | go log into hots beta |
| 19:58.00 | Ahli | TheSkunk__: bar duell, now |
| 19:58.02 | Taintedwisp | Why? |
| 19:58.03 | duckies_ | and play barcraft with us :3 |
| 19:58.13 | Taintedwisp | Ill come hell why not |
| 19:58.19 | duckies_ | great |
| 19:58.52 | Taintedwisp | because I am a pimp |
| 19:59.12 | Ahli | chat in clans is bugged |
| 19:59.42 | Ahli | it keeps not showing many messages... just 4 at a time I think |
| 20:13.09 | TheSkunk__ | Yeah Ahli, thats an old bug, you just have to rejoin the chat to fix it |
| 20:13.11 | TheSkunk__ | >< |
| 20:15.15 | Blizz-Deletarius | who wanted me to play HoTS beta? |
| 20:15.20 | Blizz-Deletarius | cause I'm going to do that |
| 20:15.47 | Bibendus | dele |
| 20:15.52 | Blizz-Deletarius | Bibe |
| 20:15.57 | Bibendus | why cant i test my editor maps |
| 20:15.58 | Dustin|Work | No gaming on lunch, you gotta eat your foo! |
| 20:15.59 | TheSkunk__ | They probably wanted you to play that card game ._. |
| 20:16.00 | Dustin|Work | food |
| 20:16.02 | Bibendus | while offline? |
| 20:16.06 | Bibendus | :( |
| 20:16.17 | Blizz-Deletarius | you can't test doc? |
| 20:16.22 | Bibendus | nope |
| 20:16.29 | Blizz-Deletarius | weird |
| 20:16.44 | Bibendus | that's the error |
| 20:16.47 | Blizz-Deletarius | Skunk |
| 20:16.53 | Blizz-Deletarius | you mean the barcraft game? |
| 20:17.18 | Blizz-Deletarius | oops, game starting |
| 20:17.20 | Bibendus | te version of sc2 required to play this game ins unavailable |
| 20:17.47 | Bibendus | if I go online it works |
| 20:18.06 | Bibendus | "The version of Starcraft II required to play this game is unavailable" |
| 20:18.23 | TheSkunk__ | Yeah |
| 20:18.48 | Bibendus | is that the error that other editors reported? |
| 20:18.53 | Bibendus | while trying to edit offline? |
| 20:19.10 | Bibendus | TheSkunk__? |
| 20:19.48 | TheSkunk__ | My yeah comment was to Delete's question lol |
| 20:21.06 | Bibendus | oh |
| 20:21.15 | Bibendus | and btw Blizz-Deletarius this started happening since I updated the version of the game |
| 20:21.18 | Bibendus | from 1.5.2 to 1.5.3 |
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| 20:26.30 | duckies | Taintedwisp, you coming? |
| 20:26.36 | Taintedwisp | yeah 1 sec |
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| 20:27.04 | Taintedwisp | SHIT |
| 20:27.20 | Taintedwisp | I knew muslims didnt like americans, but they honestly belive that White people are the devils children.. |
| 20:28.19 | ThunderLord | ... |
| 20:29.01 | Taintedwisp | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakub_(Nation_of_Islam) |
| 20:29.04 | Taintedwisp | No seriously... |
| 20:29.28 | Taintedwisp | I didnt know that, I thought they were just mad over minor confilcts witht eh quran and the bible |
| 20:33.11 | ThunderLord | huh |
| 20:33.15 | ThunderLord | well its on wikipedia so |
| 20:33.19 | ThunderLord | lol |
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| 20:48.34 | push | anyone willing to quickly port a war3 model for me |
| 20:52.12 | Taintedwisp | Really fun game |
| 20:52.31 | Taintedwisp | But Imma go play Xbox Duckies :D thanks for the invite |
| 20:52.58 | duckies | aaw |
| 20:52.59 | duckies | I see |
| 20:55.31 | Blizz-Deletarius | not bad |
| 20:55.34 | Blizz-Deletarius | won 1 lost 1 |
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| 21:32.28 | ckSynergy | Do yall think 45 persistents running 20 times a second would cause much lag? |
| 21:41.25 | A1win | I'm not sure if it would cause any lag, depends on how the networking is done... it might just communicate to the clients of the initial event that starts the persistents, like the use of an ability, and then all of them just executes them in the same way, or something like that |
| 21:41.51 | A1win | -all of them |
| 21:53.25 | ckSynergy | hmm k |
| 22:00.18 | zenxu | Blizz-Deletarius: pls fix group chat channels |
| 22:00.27 | zenxu | they are super anoying when it deletes the text |
| 22:00.40 | Ahli | barcraft is a cool game |
| 22:00.46 | zenxu | you cannot even type anything, it just deletes the text without showing it to anybody |
| 22:01.09 | zenxu | it was almost as you wanted me to win |
| 22:01.19 | zenxu | ahli didnt rob me from my dodge |
| 22:01.28 | zenxu | and ducky offered me a beer |
| 22:01.34 | zenxu | very nice of you |
| 22:01.44 | duckies | I thought you'd bring him down to 1 hp and then I'd finish you both |
| 22:01.44 | duckies | >.> |
| 22:01.54 | duckies | but he was tassadar, dodging with everything |
| 22:01.56 | zenxu | I would have been pissed if I died AGAIN without taking a single turn |
| 22:02.04 | duckies | so winning by myself would be tricky :/ |
| 22:02.22 | duckies | it's a really nice role/hero allignment |
| 22:02.28 | zenxu | Agreed |
| 22:02.39 | zenxu | but I really wonder about balance on like 8 players |
| 22:02.42 | zenxu | kinda tricky |
| 22:02.50 | zenxu | if you imagine you can die on one turn |
| 22:02.55 | zenxu | like I did |
| 22:03.32 | Ahli | players have distances |
| 22:03.50 | Ahli | do all have the same distance from start? |
| 22:04.02 | Ahli | if you got a game with a lot of players |
| 22:04.30 | duckies | tha farthest possible distance would be 4 in 8 player game I think |
| 22:04.59 | duckies | *the x_x |
| 22:05.34 | zenxu | player next to you is suppose to be distance 1 |
| 22:05.48 | duckies | but you can still take out anyone before it's his turn with team effort |
| 22:06.05 | duckies | with release the hounds and that "bash" contest card |
| 22:06.27 | zenxu | randomly attacking with bouncers and bar owner is pretty much no-no isnt it? |
| 22:06.35 | zenxu | but I bet thats what all public people gona do |
| 22:06.43 | duckies | indeed |
| 22:07.09 | duckies | and now I'm actually looking for hots, for group feature, to play the map with ppl who know what to do :D |
| 22:07.24 | zenxu | yea I guess it could work |
| 22:07.48 | zenxu | played more than intendet |
| 22:08.04 | zenxu | I would also like to play it every now and then |
| 22:08.06 | duckies | shall we play tomorrow again? |
| 22:08.11 | zenxu | rather than 8h a day before I get bored |
| 22:08.13 | zenxu | maybe |
| 22:08.33 | Ahli | but don't abuse tychus again :D |
| 22:08.38 | Ahli | wasn't fun for me |
| 22:08.59 | zenxu | you made trough it |
| 22:09.00 | duckies | oh come on, you'd get a lot of cards next turn |
| 22:09.01 | duckies | :D |
| 22:09.02 | zenxu | easilly |
| 22:09.10 | Ahli | only because I was warfield :D |
| 22:09.10 | zenxu | it even backfired kinda |
| 22:09.14 | duckies | and zenxu would have healed you anyway |
| 22:09.16 | *** part/#sc2mapster G0A (~hookah604@87.97.45.71.pool.invitel.hu) |
| 22:09.25 | duckies | since he needed you alive :D |
| 22:09.43 | duckies | so all is good |
| 22:09.46 | zenxu | one heroes ability seemed stupid thou |
| 22:09.53 | zenxu | I think he had ability to give cards to other players :E |
| 22:10.01 | zenxu | like you would even have extra cards to give |
| 22:10.08 | duckies | I wish I had 2 more cards though, could have finished game in 1 turn, would be lol :D |
| 22:11.08 | duckies | yeah, and some abilities don't seem even compareably good to others |
| 22:11.19 | duckies | like the one where you get 2 cards when a player dies |
| 22:11.31 | duckies | I guess it's a part of luck :3 |
| 22:11.56 | zenxu | yea that one too |
| 22:11.59 | zenxu | its sooooooo bad |
| 22:12.15 | zenxu | too bad if you dont have time to read all abilities and get shitty hero xD |
| 22:12.45 | Blizz-Deletarius | zenxu |
| 22:12.52 | zenxu | wut |
| 22:12.54 | Blizz-Deletarius | chat channels aren't my area, sorry |
| 22:12.57 | duckies | yeah, it's quite a rush in the beginning, no reading lore, just quick skim over ability descriptions |
| 22:13.02 | Blizz-Deletarius | post a bug report on the forums sir |
| 22:13.04 | zenxu | pass it on! it was super anoying |
| 22:13.16 | zenxu | duckies you tell deletarius too |
| 22:13.20 | zenxu | how anoying that chat bug is! |
| 22:13.25 | duckies | deletarius |
| 22:13.26 | Blizz-Deletarius | so post it up :) |
| 22:13.29 | duckies | zenxu is right ^^ |
| 22:13.34 | Blizz-Deletarius | I wasn't there |
| 22:13.36 | zenxu | ahli too! |
| 22:13.38 | Blizz-Deletarius | I don't know what happened |
| 22:13.53 | duckies | you post in cat channel and nothing shows up :/ |
| 22:14.01 | duckies | riight . cat channel >.> |
| 22:14.07 | zenxu | btw normal chat channels seemed to work |
| 22:14.10 | zenxu | but the group chat didnt |
| 22:14.12 | Blizz-Deletarius | again, post on the forums :) |
| 22:14.32 | zenxu | mmmmm you should atleast offer us a link |
| 22:14.38 | zenxu | we are helping you guys |
| 22:14.41 | zenxu | with testing |
| 22:15.01 | Ahli | it's my feedback #42 |
| 22:15.11 | Ahli | http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/6134713543?page=1#3 |
| 22:15.21 | duckies | shees, that game got me addicted.. I now want to play just 1 more before going to bed |
| 22:15.24 | duckies | and then one more |
| 22:15.27 | duckies | and one more |
| 22:15.30 | duckies | and one more |
| 22:15.32 | duckies | .. |
| 22:15.33 | Ahli | one moar |
| 22:16.04 | Ahli | well, I could play that game for the next few hours with people that know how to play :D |
| 22:16.24 | duckies | zenxu, you don't need speel :3 |
| 22:16.28 | duckies | *sleep |
| 22:16.44 | zenxu | Im not going to sleep |
| 22:16.50 | zenxu | I was going to map a bit |
| 22:16.57 | Ahli | nahhh, not today |
| 22:17.03 | Ahli | I didn't map today neither |
| 22:17.11 | duckies | neither did I |
| 22:17.20 | Ahli | if today is the timer after I woke up the first time today |
| 22:17.21 | duckies | we can map tomorrow |
| 22:17.33 | zenxu | well ahli has been active with those reports, nice! :) |
| 22:17.50 | duckies | besides, today is the only day we get cool latency for our games on beta server |
| 22:17.52 | zenxu | and ducky |
| 22:17.54 | zenxu | didnt you see |
| 22:17.55 | Ahli | I just note down pretty much everything I see and spot |
| 22:17.58 | duckies | they'll move back to us tomorrow |
| 22:17.58 | duckies | :/ |
| 22:18.03 | zenxu | I would rather play every now and then than exhaust the game right away |
| 22:18.08 | Ahli | there is only 1 thing that I didn't add to it, yet |
| 22:18.17 | duckies | one more game wouldn't hurt ya :D |
| 22:18.31 | zenxu | better stop while ahead |
| 22:18.42 | duckies | I just love the drunk-bartender-owner trio |
| 22:18.48 | duckies | you're not ahead |
| 22:18.55 | duckies | >.> |
| 22:18.59 | Ahli | I tried to move a custom frame below the social button, but it only appeary below it once. after that it is displayed over the social button for some reason |
| 22:22.12 | zenxu | I wonder if they have info page about everything |
| 22:22.22 | zenxu | like the heroes |
| 22:22.52 | zenxu | I cant remember where I left of with my mapping |
| 22:22.58 | zenxu | dont really feel that motivated to do anything E |
| 22:23.43 | Ahli | the help has all cards and heroes |
| 22:23.45 | Ahli | and the rules |
| 22:23.50 | duckies | yeah, F12 |
| 22:24.00 | Ahli | or just click help :D |
| 22:24.12 | Ahli | f12 opens the default help, too :S |
| 22:24.23 | duckies | true |
| 22:25.23 | zenxu | well I mean in browser form |
| 22:25.30 | zenxu | so I could plan my future strategies |
| 22:31.10 | *** join/#sc2mapster tordy (4b5dce70@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.93.206.112) |
| 22:31.15 | tordy | good evening friends |
| 22:31.19 | duckies | oh lol zenxu |
| 22:31.20 | *** join/#sc2mapster Taintedwisp (4bb54735@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.181.71.53) |
| 22:31.25 | tordy | good evening friends |
| 22:31.28 | duckies | that hero who transfers cards |
| 22:31.33 | duckies | decard cain |
| 22:31.39 | Taintedwisp | They are upgrading the battle.net forums again... some useless changes, but upgrades none the least. |
| 22:31.42 | zenxu | yes? |
| 22:31.49 | Taintedwisp | they are adding icons to each forum |
| 22:31.49 | duckies | he also gets + health if transfers more than 1 card :D |
| 22:32.04 | duckies | what a cool manipulator hero |
| 22:32.07 | tordy | what icons |
| 22:32.14 | Ahli | yay, icons |
| 22:32.23 | Taintedwisp | battle.net/starcraft |
| 22:32.28 | Taintedwisp | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/ |
| 22:32.30 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:32.33 | zenxu | oh |
| 22:32.52 | zenxu | well its still arguable wheter its good or not |
| 22:32.59 | Taintedwisp | minor changes... but changes |
| 22:33.12 | zenxu | for 3 players its horrible |
| 22:33.23 | Taintedwisp | more of a pointless change :P but it does show they are caring about the forums :P |
| 22:33.23 | zenxu | but I guess for 8 players its pretty freakin good |
| 22:33.25 | *** join/#sc2mapster XenoX101 (XenoX101@ppp118-209-105-160.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) |
| 22:33.33 | Taintedwisp | what ya playing |
| 22:33.41 | zenxu | barcraft |
| 22:33.46 | Taintedwisp | Hots? |
| 22:33.59 | zenxu | y |
| 22:34.26 | tordy | wait a minute |
| 22:34.31 | tordy | which one is the custom map subforum? |
| 22:34.32 | tordy | <_, |
| 22:34.36 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:34.47 | tordy | i bookmarked it |
| 22:34.49 | tordy | and it goes to misc |
| 22:35.02 | tordy | blizz must really hate custom maps :[ |
| 22:35.02 | Taintedwisp | nvm, I am about to go into the other room, been on the computer too long today |
| 22:35.06 | Taintedwisp | ? |
| 22:35.15 | Taintedwisp | Tordy they gave us the majority of their forums haha |
| 22:35.20 | Taintedwisp | I wouldnt say they hate them :P |
| 22:35.36 | tordy | oh they split it up |
| 22:35.40 | Taintedwisp | yeah haha |
| 22:35.53 | ckSynergy | So, who wants to clean up a trigger for me? |
| 22:35.54 | tordy | >:p |
| 22:35.54 | Taintedwisp | We get 11 or 13 forums i forget |
| 22:35.54 | ckSynergy | :P |
| 22:36.07 | Taintedwisp | CKSYNERGY write all my triggers for me |
| 22:36.15 | ckSynergy | lol Tainted |
| 22:37.50 | Taintedwisp | There |
| 22:37.58 | tordy | did they JUSt add the icons? |
| 22:37.59 | Taintedwisp | Now I know that I need a new triggerer |
| 22:38.03 | Taintedwisp | lol yeah |
| 22:38.08 | tordy | i didnt see the galaxy icons 5 min ago |
| 22:38.25 | tordy | that's cute |
| 22:39.02 | ckSynergy | ? |
| 22:39.08 | ckSynergy | galaxy icons? |
| 22:39.31 | Zolden | hey tordy |
| 22:39.40 | Zolden | wanna know how send works? |
| 22:39.53 | tordy | yep |
| 22:40.03 | Zolden | towers attack creeps adn send units |
| 22:40.12 | ckSynergy | woot woot. Full inventory validation trigger done |
| 22:40.18 | Zolden | send system isn't plain though |
| 22:40.27 | Zolden | i'll post on mapster |
| 22:40.31 | tordy | how does it send units? |
| 22:40.37 | Zolden | with each wave |
| 22:40.38 | tordy | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:40.48 | Zolden | a bit like in sqadron td |
| 22:40.49 | tordy | i like to read it at once |
| 22:41.00 | tordy | and i'd like to see it in action! |
| 22:41.03 | tordy | if u uupload to NA |
| 22:41.15 | Zolden | if you have tower A, enemy will have a send unit of type A' on each wave |
| 22:41.27 | Zolden | well, i'm testing it on eu |
| 22:41.33 | Dustin|Work | RAwwwwwwwwr |
| 22:41.33 | Zolden | and there will be tons of changes |
| 22:41.40 | Zolden | it' |
| 22:41.49 | Zolden | it's just not what it supposed to be |
| 22:41.55 | Zolden | only the skeleton of the game |
| 22:42.24 | Zolden | i can post a screen from the game in a few minutes |
| 22:43.21 | tordy | so you send units depending on what towers the enemy has? |
| 22:45.32 | ckSynergy | Cheers guys! |
| 22:45.33 | ckSynergy | http://www.sc2mapster.com/paste/6736/ |
| 22:47.53 | ckSynergy | not the most elegant, but just got done building it and I think it's fully functional. No known issues as of finishing it 10 seconds ago lol |
| 22:48.07 | Ahli | feedback #43 added |
| 22:48.28 | ckSynergy | ?? |
| 22:48.29 | Ahli | http://snag.gy/3y2o1.jpg who can spot the 2 mistakes? |
| 22:48.33 | *** join/#sc2mapster Tolkfan (~Thunderbi@host-89-230-244-33.nowydwor.mm.pl) |
| 22:49.11 | ckSynergy | version # is wrong |
| 22:49.22 | ckSynergy | text at bottom of box overlaps border |
| 22:49.27 | Ahli | you can write the version yourself |
| 22:49.35 | Ahli | so, that is fine |
| 22:49.35 | ckSynergy | creatures should be creature |
| 22:49.45 | Ahli | the bnet file version can be ignored anyway |
| 22:49.55 | ckSynergy | in the top patch note, the text at the bottom is sckewed |
| 22:49.58 | ckSynergy | *skewed |
| 22:50.06 | Ahli | 10 points to griffindor |
| 22:50.20 | ckSynergy | join chat isnt centered with the other buttons |
| 22:50.32 | Ahli | and the other 10, too because you said the other problem already |
| 22:50.50 | ckSynergy | :P |
| 22:53.47 | ckSynergy | http://i.imgur.com/wLmz3.jpg |
| 22:54.02 | ckSynergy | I'm nit picky lol |
| 22:57.25 | Zolden | tordy yea, or I chose towers depending on what enemy sends |
| 22:59.33 | tordy | is there an update im missing |
| 23:01.14 | Taintedwisp | Recruitment thread up |
| 23:01.14 | Taintedwisp | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/team-recruitment/46511-evo-frenzy-is-recruiting/ |
| 23:01.18 | Taintedwisp | Better then the last one :P |
| 23:03.40 | duckies | eh, I guess there won't be another barcraft tonight.. I suppose I can map for half an hour and then go to sleep. But you better be present tomorrow zenxu! |
| 23:04.11 | tordy | nice banner Taintedwisp |
| 23:04.20 | Taintedwisp | thanks tordy its part of my loadingscreen |
| 23:04.47 | Taintedwisp | I thought i showed it already :P |
| 23:04.48 | Taintedwisp | http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Evofrenzy-3.jpg |
| 23:05.06 | tordy | i didnt se it |
| 23:05.27 | Taintedwisp | what you think? |
| 23:05.59 | Taintedwisp | now they ALL have icons :P |
| 23:06.03 | Taintedwisp | on the battle.net forums |
| 23:06.25 | Zolden | http://snag.gy/4kIY3.jpg |
| 23:06.33 | Zolden | screen of my td |
| 23:07.22 | tordy | those are some nice looking balls |
| 23:07.50 | Taintedwisp | and tordy knows a thing or two about nice looking balls |
| 23:07.51 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 23:07.52 | Taintedwisp | haah |
| 23:07.58 | Taintedwisp | Alright on that note im outat here |
| 23:08.00 | Taintedwisp | Peace otu |
| 23:08.07 | Zolden | all towers made by me |
| 23:08.07 | tordy | those balls are so nice and glossy |
| 23:08.32 | tordy | you made tho semodels? |
| 23:08.40 | Zolden | yea |
| 23:11.15 | tordy | i havent played sc2 in a while, any good custom maps out there? |
| 23:14.59 | zenxu | mmmm but we do need atleast 3 players ducky |
| 23:15.01 | zenxu | so |
| 23:15.05 | zenxu | ! |
| 23:16.47 | zenxu | I did try evo frenzy alone |
| 23:16.52 | zenxu | wasnt too much fun |
| 23:17.29 | duckies | zenxu, is ahli still there? |
| 23:17.30 | duckies | >.> |
| 23:17.32 | duckies | <.< |
| 23:17.37 | zenxu | i didnt mean today |
| 23:17.40 | zenxu | but for tomorrow |
| 23:17.53 | duckies | today is tomorrow! |
| 23:18.08 | duckies | it's already a hour and seventeen minutes of tomorrow |
| 23:18.14 | zenxu | indeed |
| 23:18.26 | zenxu | ant its morning in 10 hours |
| 23:18.32 | zenxu | thats when I should wake up atleast |
| 23:19.02 | duckies | you can try to check and see if sleeping just 6 h will be good for you :D |
| 23:19.30 | zenxu | I could |
| 23:19.33 | zenxu | but there is not much point |
| 23:19.39 | zenxu | cause I dont have anything to do really |
| 23:19.50 | zenxu | tecnically I have things to do |
| 23:19.54 | zenxu | but cannot be bothered to do them |
| 23:19.55 | duckies | but.. what about playing computer games? :| |
| 23:20.04 | zenxu | I wana get my map out |
| 23:20.22 | zenxu | I need to add quests and rewards, that should do it |
| 23:20.30 | zenxu | 1-2days of work I would assume |
| 23:20.38 | duckies | I also want to get your map out, but if you're bored with it it's better to play something else until you regain drive to complete it |
| 23:20.42 | zenxu | and wheter I wana test |
| 23:20.45 | zenxu | it might take longer |
| 23:20.46 | duckies | give in to my agenda! |
| 23:20.52 | zenxu | but not sure if I will even bother testing |
| 23:20.57 | tordy | heh |
| 23:20.58 | zenxu | I just might release and let other people test |
| 23:21.18 | zenxu | Im not too bored of it |
| 23:21.40 | zenxu | but doing somethings can be a bit boring |
| 23:21.47 | zenxu | I should also add level requirements for armor |
| 23:21.52 | zenxu | but I might be too lazy to do that |
| 23:22.21 | duckies | loose yourself in another game, then after you get burned out of it, you'll wake up and think to yourself "hm, I feel like I could do some mapping, I suppose it's a good time like finishing alpha version of my rpg. Yeah, that's how I feel" |
| 23:22.58 | zenxu | your tricks wont get me to play more barcraft :D |
| 23:23.02 | zenxu | we played plenty of it |
| 23:23.04 | zenxu | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:23.29 | duckies | there is never enough of virtual beer and face-punching! |
| 23:23.59 | duckies | buut yeah, I guess we did hit the limit today |
| 23:24.19 | zenxu | you should play pokemon showdown |
| 23:24.23 | zenxu | its quite addictive too |
| 23:24.42 | zenxu | it has suprisingly amount of tactics |
| 23:24.45 | duckies | I'm not into pokemons unfortunately :| |
| 23:25.46 | zenxu | I do have quite many things I could also add to alpha 3 version |
| 23:25.48 | zenxu | but meh... |
| 23:25.55 | zenxu | I guess I can add them as I test |
| 23:26.03 | zenxu | and umm |
| 23:26.08 | duckies | see, you sould so full of procastination... |
| 23:26.09 | zenxu | I dont know what kind of quests to add |
| 23:26.15 | zenxu | probly just collect quests |
| 23:26.33 | zenxu | and I also should release that PvPE map |
| 23:26.42 | zenxu | as in player. vs player boss map |
| 23:27.22 | zenxu | this is why I try to write things down rather than rambling |
| 23:27.25 | zenxu | too many things to do |
| 23:27.31 | zenxu | better just to look at list and do something |
| 23:27.48 | duckies | mm, well, I'm lost on what to do right now :| I'm off to sleep 18 hours until our next session of Barcraft! |
| 23:28.16 | zenxu | that long :O |
| 23:28.16 | zenxu | xD |
| 23:29.47 | duckies | life without barcraft has no purpose for me anymore x_x.. though you're right, with that amount of sleep I'll feel.. unhealthy. Plus I need time to make food and enjoy snow.. and smile at sily jokes like this one http://www.explosm.net/comics/3021/ |
| 23:30.36 | duckies | I guess I need to reconsider my ways.. meh, I'll go distract myself with wonderful gits soundtrack, change one obsession to another |
| 23:33.10 | Dustin | http://www.capcom-unity.com/mega_man |
| 23:33.17 | Dustin | NEW MEGAMAN VS STREET FIGHTER!! |
| 23:34.09 | duckies | yeah, I'm even more horrible at it thant at originam megaman2 |
| 23:34.28 | duckies | *than at original |
| 23:34.45 | duckies | I've had way too many virtual beers this night it seems |
| 23:35.37 | duckies | wtf, why is time passing so fast D: |
| 23:35.48 | Exaken | because it's time |
| 23:36.02 | duckies | I could swear it used to be slower x_x |
| 23:36.09 | Exaken | yup |
| 23:36.35 | duckies | thank god you agree, I thought I was going insane there for a while |
| 23:36.53 | duckies | I find relief in the thought that we're both mad :D |
| 23:37.49 | Exaken | :D |
| 23:38.00 | zenxu | relax only 17,5h till next barcraft |
| 23:38.35 | Exaken | Then I'm eating diner again |
| 23:39.19 | duckies | I cannot do so zenxu, my mind is occupied with thoughts on how to make sure that we have at least 5 players for next session |
| 23:39.34 | zenxu | it sure would be nice to try with 5 people again |
| 23:40.23 | duckies | exaken, you have beta, correct? |
| 23:40.42 | duckies | thought I saw you in the group.. |
| 23:40.46 | Exaken | Don't know, did I play barcraft today? xD |
| 23:41.17 | duckies | it was just me,zenxu,ahli,skunk and wisp + random |
| 23:41.34 | duckies | you weren't there ='( |
| 23:41.36 | zenxu | isnt exaken action? |
| 23:41.39 | Exaken | yes |
| 23:41.44 | zenxu | he visited bnet atleast |
| 23:41.49 | zenxu | I think he even played |
| 23:41.51 | Exaken | I was there! |
| 23:41.55 | zenxu | yes you were ganging me |
| 23:41.56 | zenxu | bitches |
| 23:42.05 | zenxu | not cool |
| 23:42.25 | duckies | but you weren't present in our ~5 game chain :s |
| 23:42.51 | duckies | you're still angry about that? I'm sure whoever killed you paid the price zenxu :D |
| 23:43.03 | Exaken | I only played 2 or 3 times |
| 23:43.22 | zenxu | Iv never recover from that |
| 23:43.25 | zenxu | traumatized me |
| 23:43.26 | duckies | was I there.. maybe I am losing my mind after all.. |
| 23:44.06 | Exaken | oh well, as long as you can map and play barcraft you'll be okay |
| 23:44.13 | duckies | meh, a touch of insanity isn't that much of a deal, makes life brighter :D |
| 23:44.16 | zenxu | but once again noticed how cool its to see something totally unique |
| 23:44.43 | duckies | something totaly unique that is done right with pleasant style |
| 23:44.45 | zenxu | its a chinese map right? |
| 23:44.54 | duckies | trailer is from asia |
| 23:44.55 | Exaken | think so |
| 23:45.32 | duckies | yeah, probably chinese |
| 23:46.39 | Dustin | So whats up guys |
| 23:47.03 | duckies | I'm trying to deal with effects of my new addiction :/ |
| 23:47.55 | duckies | brb, gonna go make myself a big cup of tasty tea to calm myself down |
| 23:48.05 | zenxu | well im to sleep |
| 23:49.36 | duckies | sleep sounds so reasonable.. and I got stuff to do tomorrow as well T_T |
| 23:50.27 | duckies | I'm gonna log off too, good night/pleasant evening rveryone |
