| 00:03.56 | Ahli | I really need to make myself an index with news icons from BLizzard's blogs to add to SEN's news |
| 00:10.52 | DeadZergling | yea, time saving must be pretty important to you always waiting 5 minutes to save a map. |
| 00:11.22 | DeadZergling | lol, anyways I did finally get a horizontal bar working properly, ended up using a second dialog |
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| 00:15.42 | Zolden | Dead, is it horizontal you've been creating just joined? |
| 00:16.06 | DeadZergling | err my bad, vertical, vertical was the tough one, lol |
| 00:17.00 | Zolden | фдкшпреб ешьу ещ ыцшеср икфшт ьщву |
| 00:17.06 | Zolden | oh |
| 00:17.09 | Zolden | what a mess |
| 00:17.13 | Ahli | indeed |
| 00:17.22 | Ahli | strange symbols everywhere in that line |
| 00:17.34 | Taintedwisp | | |
| 00:17.36 | Taintedwisp | |\ |
| 00:17.37 | Taintedwisp | \ |
| 00:17.43 | Ahli | fail? |
| 00:17.46 | Taintedwisp | yup |
| 00:17.50 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 00:18.36 | Taintedwisp | Koolickle is a pickle made from cucumber after soaking it in Kool-Aid. |
| 00:18.37 | Ahli | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:18.37 | Ahli | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:18.37 | Ahli | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:18.38 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 00:18.59 | Ahli | should be that train here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII-Art |
| 00:20.00 | Taintedwisp | ....................../´¯/) ....................,/¯../ .................../..../ ............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ ........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\ ........('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...') .........\.................'...../ ..........''...\.......... _.·´ ............\..............( ..............\.............\... |
| 00:20.01 | Taintedwisp | awww |
| 00:20.09 | Taintedwisp | ....................../´¯/) |
| 00:20.14 | Taintedwisp | ....................,/¯../ |
| 00:20.19 | Taintedwisp | .................../..../ |
| 00:20.25 | Taintedwisp | ............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ |
| 00:20.25 | Blizz-Deletarius | Ahli...let me read through that |
| 00:20.28 | Taintedwisp | aww |
| 00:20.56 | Taintedwisp | http://www.ascii-middle-finger.com/ |
| 00:21.01 | Taintedwisp | I usually referrr back to that one |
| 00:21.01 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 00:21.05 | Taintedwisp | doesnt work in IRC though |
| 00:22.30 | Blizz-Deletarius | ahli, I'm not sure I understand your question from about an hour ago |
| 00:22.40 | Blizz-Deletarius | [15:13] <Ahli> Blizz-Deletarius: what will be the benefit of interface files compared to normal mods that only contain raw files? |
| 00:24.34 | Ahli | "Mods can now optionally be saved as SC2Interface files as long as they don?t have any data which affects gameplay." - - - What's the benefit of SC2Interface compared to SC2Mod that only contains imported raw asset files? |
| 00:25.15 | Taintedwisp | Are they tighter compressed? |
| 00:25.23 | Taintedwisp | This could actually be useful to me if they are |
| 00:25.24 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 00:25.25 | Blizz-Deletarius | observer interface files |
| 00:26.29 | Ahli | so... mods that only contain UI editor changes? |
| 00:26.43 | Blizz-Deletarius | http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/12e6fx/coming_in_the_next_beta_patch_will_be_some_added/ |
| 00:26.45 | Blizz-Deletarius | basically |
| 00:27.11 | Blizz-Deletarius | it will allow you to do MOST of what's shown here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li1Ab9dYuRg&feature=youtu.be |
| 00:27.31 | Blizz-Deletarius | and create a custom game interface that only observers will be able to see |
| 00:27.40 | Blizz-Deletarius | good for streamers, tournaments, etc |
| 00:28.00 | Blizz-Deletarius | cause GSL could have their own interface, MLG could have their own, etc |
| 00:28.05 | Blizz-Deletarius | day9 could have his own |
| 00:28.08 | Blizz-Deletarius | husky could have his own |
| 00:28.08 | Taintedwisp | Hmm, Pretty cool. I could find some use for this as well, Hey Deletarius would it be possible to move a player to an observer and give him the observer ui too? |
| 00:28.20 | Blizz-Deletarius | uhhhhhh |
| 00:28.24 | Blizz-Deletarius | in a custom game I suppose? |
| 00:28.27 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 00:28.35 | Blizz-Deletarius | like, I know you can do it in 1v1obs games |
| 00:28.37 | Ahli | hmmm, I wonder if the upgrades on the buildings originates in the thing I made in the sc2mapster forum |
| 00:28.55 | Blizz-Deletarius | the upgrades on buildings thing is actually one of the things that can't be done in this |
| 00:28.59 | Blizz-Deletarius | because it's done through triggers |
| 00:29.06 | Ahli | where I saved the text tag with the unit tag as key in data table |
| 00:31.20 | Taintedwisp | Well if it can be used for Custom maps I would love to do this in my maps :D, Sounds really cool. |
| 00:31.27 | Taintedwisp | Especially if its customizeable |
| 00:32.25 | Blizz-Deletarius | of course it is :) |
| 00:34.03 | Blizz-Deletarius | ahli, I'm not sure, we didn't do that UI setup - another group did |
| 00:34.10 | Blizz-Deletarius | they may have |
| 00:35.51 | Ahli | I hate mapsters search... why can't I display all my own posts? :S |
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| 00:37.08 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 00:37.17 | Blizz-Deletarius | alrighty everyone, I'm out, have a good night |
| 00:37.36 | Taintedwisp | Not to mention neither the Latest, Most Replied, nor Most accurate post are every at the top of the list :P |
| 00:37.46 | Taintedwisp | there is no organization on mapsters search |
| 00:37.57 | Taintedwisp | Mapster has sooo many great assets, but Inferior ways of finding them |
| 00:38.22 | Taintedwisp | Gnight Deletarius |
| 00:42.30 | Ahli | finally found the map I was looking for |
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| 00:43.35 | Bounty | Pew Pew |
| 00:44.09 | Taintedwisp | Hey bounty |
| 00:44.17 | Bounty | sup |
| 00:44.28 | Taintedwisp | what yo gay ass been up to? |
| 00:44.51 | Bounty | debating on if i should finally make a game ive been wanting to make for the last year lol |
| 00:45.01 | Bounty | Been waiting for someone to make it but of course nobody has |
| 00:45.09 | Taintedwisp | What game is that? |
| 00:45.31 | Bounty | Its basically a metal gear solid style 2 player co op bound |
| 00:45.36 | Bounty | set inside a virtual reality |
| 00:45.39 | Bounty | :) |
| 00:46.24 | Bounty | but its also a progressive maze, its not split up into levels. It is instead split up into "rooms" |
| 00:46.24 | Taintedwisp | ahhh |
| 00:46.48 | Bounty | Make sense? |
| 00:49.08 | Bounty | Take that as a no lol |
| 00:49.23 | Taintedwisp | sorry was afk |
| 00:49.54 | Taintedwisp | yeah I get what you mean, an RPG stealth game, where the rooms are randomly designed so its like a maze |
| 00:50.02 | Bounty | its not random |
| 00:50.09 | Bounty | but you know how bounds are basically just levels? |
| 00:50.33 | Bounty | this would just be one giant world divided into sections that you complete and you pick the path you want to take after clearing |
| 00:50.43 | Bounty | and its not an RPG |
| 00:51.05 | Bounty | Not sure where you got that lol |
| 00:54.37 | Taintedwisp | to me Virtual Reality = RPG |
| 00:54.44 | Taintedwisp | also MGS was an RPG stealth game |
| 00:54.59 | Bounty | I said its set inside virtual reality |
| 00:55.04 | Bounty | in that, thats the graphical style |
| 00:55.08 | Taintedwisp | ohh |
| 00:55.16 | Bounty | kinda of like photon discs |
| 00:55.18 | Taintedwisp | should have said digital reality :P |
| 00:55.23 | Bounty | not EXACTLY like photon discs but yeah |
| 00:55.37 | Taintedwisp | DIGIMON!!! |
| 00:56.15 | Bounty | I already have the engine written down in notepad lol |
| 00:56.18 | Bounty | and how everything would work |
| 00:56.20 | Bounty | pretty easy |
| 00:57.12 | Bounty | Can you edit command cards via triggers yet? |
| 00:57.18 | Bounty | like change what buttons are on a page |
| 01:02.00 | ________________ | nope nope |
| 01:02.19 | Bounty | i guess you could simulate it with command card page swaps? |
| 01:02.44 | ________________ | yup |
| 01:02.50 | Taintedwisp | Why via triggers bounty? Layout files are not that difficult depending on what you need |
| 01:03.07 | Bounty | how would layout files swap command card buttons? |
| 01:03.08 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:03.12 | Taintedwisp | ohh |
| 01:03.15 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 01:04.35 | Bounty | Besides, i dont even know if this is the type of game ppl would even play |
| 01:04.39 | Bounty | It would only be 2 player co op |
| 01:06.36 | Taintedwisp | ahh |
| 01:07.23 | Ahli | bounty, you could use requirements and dummy upgrades to control which abilities are visible |
| 01:07.34 | Bounty | nice |
| 01:07.44 | Bounty | i remember i made a jump with dummy upgrades |
| 01:07.45 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:08.04 | Ahli | I use a lot of "dummy" things :S |
| 01:08.15 | Bounty | I'm still debating on this whole concept though and if people would even play it |
| 01:08.26 | Bounty | I thought people would love fat princess for SC2, but apparently not |
| 01:08.46 | Bounty | I seem to be wrong everytime i think something will be popular, but when i dont think it will be popular it gets popular |
| 01:08.59 | Bounty | case and point, Haunted Forest |
| 01:09.09 | Ahli | effects to start triggers, behaviors to alter requirements for abilities, units to carry custom values for complex triggered damage systems |
| 01:09.20 | ________________ | no case & point Ling Ling rocket |
| 01:09.34 | Bounty | well yeah that would be the counter |
| 01:09.40 | Bounty | I thought Ling Ling Rocket would be popular lol |
| 01:09.55 | Bounty | i did not think Haunted Forest would be popular but its my most popular map ever, including Doodad Hunt |
| 01:10.04 | ________________ | oh you did? I thought it was gonna flop |
| 01:10.45 | Bounty | Not sure why it flopped, even Totalbiscuit said how good of a service it is to the original material |
| 01:11.12 | Bounty | What do you think about the concept i've been discussing thought _________? |
| 01:11.20 | Bounty | metal gear styled 2 player co op bound |
| 01:12.47 | Taintedwisp | Bounty at the end of everything you think up you have to remember 1 important fact, Your players are Sc2 Players, mean they bought the game becuase they like the RTS genre, so if you can incorporate that into your ideas while maintaining it as fun then it should have a great chance to succeedd |
| 01:13.02 | Bounty | Well thats the thing |
| 01:13.08 | Bounty | This game would use standard SC2 movement |
| 01:13.12 | Bounty | :) |
| 01:13.34 | Taintedwisp | then it would probably be great, but REMEMBER, people like MGS for 1 reason STORY :P |
| 01:13.48 | Bounty | not the original |
| 01:13.49 | Bounty | imo |
| 01:13.57 | Bounty | i played it for the VR missions lol |
| 01:14.00 | Taintedwisp | No one plays mgs for gameplay haha, i mean in mgs 4 there was no gameplay |
| 01:14.09 | Taintedwisp | in 4 it was ALL cutscenese |
| 01:14.13 | Bounty | im talking about Metal Gear Solid |
| 01:14.14 | Bounty | the very first one |
| 01:14.17 | Taintedwisp | with 5 minutes of running here or there |
| 01:14.32 | Taintedwisp | never played the first, didnt start until the 2nd |
| 01:14.34 | Bounty | I mean the game would have a story of course but nothing major |
| 01:15.38 | Taintedwisp | Yeha |
| 01:15.46 | Taintedwisp | Well it sounds like it could succed :P |
| 01:16.04 | Taintedwisp | I think my next project imma re-make Run Kitty Run, but Have scientist Run away from zombies :P |
| 01:16.19 | Dustin | hi |
| 01:16.20 | Taintedwisp | Or have the Walking Dead characters run from poeple :P |
| 01:16.38 | Taintedwisp | Then I can name the game The Walking Dead, :P |
| 01:16.50 | Taintedwisp | and instant Success |
| 01:16.54 | Taintedwisp | haha |
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| 01:31.15 | Ahli | hmmm, 7k vertex models are bad for wall models |
| 01:31.37 | Ahli | eats FPS like nothing |
| 01:32.25 | DeadZergling | lol, and when would a 7k vertex model be good |
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| 01:33.38 | Ahli | it looks nice http://snag.gy/gslxe.jpg |
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| 01:57.29 | Ahli | pasting so slow ahhhhhhhhhh |
| 02:06.15 | DeadZergling | why is there spider mines in diablo? |
| 02:06.36 | Ahli | what else should I use for items? |
| 02:08.08 | DeadZergling | guess it depends what they are, I used random doodads that partially resembled items, lol |
| 02:08.18 | DeadZergling | guessing you want just one item model to fit them all though? |
| 02:09.04 | Ahli | I used spider mines as items in my first version of the map... I never changed the model because I wouldn't know which model to use |
| 02:09.07 | DeadZergling | like I think I took a destroyed statue doodad that just had boots on top |
| 02:09.09 | DeadZergling | lowered its height |
| 02:09.12 | DeadZergling | colored it brown, lol |
| 02:09.32 | Ahli | wouldn't work with falling effect |
| 02:09.45 | DeadZergling | aye, for yours it is different |
| 02:10.06 | DeadZergling | but I found the fruit models to be pretty good for potions |
| 02:11.00 | DeadZergling | trying to think of something that would look good for diablo, although i forget offhand what items looked like in that game anyways |
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| 02:11.22 | Zandose | hi |
| 02:11.47 | DeadZergling | if it doesn't have to be too close to original |
| 02:11.53 | DeadZergling | the crates recolored could work well |
| 02:13.46 | Ahli | I implemented support for own models per item type. They just all use spider mines atm. Models need to have a good size and need to pop a bit into the viewers eyes... |
| 02:14.18 | DeadZergling | agreed, just wish it was something other than spider mines, make me afraid to pick up items it would |
| 02:14.19 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 02:14.27 | Ahli | :D |
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| 02:14.58 | DeadZergling | is amazing how much more my little project looks like an rpg |
| 02:15.05 | DeadZergling | now that it has health/mana/exp bars |
| 02:15.10 | Ahli | ^^ |
| 02:15.38 | Ahli | and did you remove the outer borders around the bar areas? |
| 02:15.46 | DeadZergling | yes I did |
| 02:15.51 | DeadZergling | I got rid of that |
| 02:15.58 | DeadZergling | looks much better |
| 02:16.21 | Zandose | wheres the model viewer in the editor? i cant find it |
| 02:17.30 | DeadZergling | still need to play w/ the buff icons more |
| 02:17.39 | DeadZergling | they work, just look ugly as diablo's ass right now |
| 02:20.23 | Ahli | I wrote my own buff display with dialogs... with UI layout changes you can make behavior icons bigger |
| 02:20.45 | Ahli | you can change the color in gameUI settings I think |
| 02:20.48 | DeadZergling | aye, I'm using dialogs for buff icons instead |
| 02:21.10 | DeadZergling | well, dialog items |
| 02:22.33 | DeadZergling | reason being, I want to be able to see buff duration timers, be able to remove beneficial buffs if you want to |
| 02:42.05 | Ahli | so, I hope that my caves will look better now |
| 02:55.19 | Ahli | sooo, uploading image |
| 02:56.33 | Ahli | http://snag.gy/DN62I.jpg |
| 02:59.33 | DeadZergling | what's with the ultra symmetrical lava? |
| 03:00.15 | Ahli | that's the terrain modification in sc2... so big |
| 03:00.37 | Ahli | numbers tell where the modification actor is |
| 03:49.03 | Otixa | hits Ahli with a stick |
| 03:54.08 | Ahli | sup? |
| 03:54.27 | Ahli | not good enough? |
| 04:03.50 | Ahli | renaming a file in the importer renames the wrong file... -.- |
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| 05:30.17 | ThunderLord | Anyone making anything cool? |
| 05:30.48 | zeldarules28|AFK | mwa |
| 05:31.08 | zeldarules28|AFK | as in me, I'm making something cool. It's called starmon, best thing eva. Maity's also working on it |
| 05:31.20 | turtles | attempting to |
| 05:31.35 | ThunderLord | Got any demo videos or somthing? |
| 05:31.35 | turtles | It's gotten some pros playing it so far |
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| 05:33.22 | ThunderLord | videos? |
| 05:33.27 | ThunderLord | stuf on mapsteR? |
| 05:33.34 | ThunderLord | screenshots? |
| 05:33.39 | ThunderLord | i wana see cool stuf! |
| 05:33.48 | turtles | only have a video that husky made AGES ago |
| 05:33.55 | turtles | no new videos |
| 05:34.01 | turtles | but some screenshots |
| 05:34.23 | ThunderLord | can u link me some? |
| 05:34.37 | turtles | will look into emailing casters to ask if they would be interested in making a new video |
| 05:35.55 | ThunderLord | is it on mapster? |
| 05:35.55 | turtles | this is the thread dedicated to the map |
| 05:36.06 | ThunderLord | okay cool |
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| 05:36.08 | ThunderLord | lets see it |
| 05:36.11 | turtles | linking you to near the end which has screenshots of the newer version |
| 05:36.12 | turtles | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=297534¤tpage=3#44 |
| 05:36.46 | turtles | this is the video husky made ages ago about it |
| 05:36.47 | turtles | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxGJIZ_s2uY |
| 05:36.56 | turtles | but that is a very old version |
| 05:37.01 | turtles | a lot of changes since then |
| 05:38.11 | ThunderLord | Kewwl |
| 05:38.23 | ThunderLord | that is cool |
| 05:38.31 | turtles | ty |
| 05:38.35 | ThunderLord | 'is there an uploaded version of that on Bnet? |
| 05:38.43 | ThunderLord | since that video? |
| 05:39.02 | turtles | on US server just go to the arcade and search for SALT |
| 05:39.16 | turtles | should be 10 or so maps with the latest version up there |
| 05:39.24 | ThunderLord | cool |
| 05:39.26 | ThunderLord | ill check it out |
| 05:39.56 | turtles | still working on it though. I'm waiting to polish it before announcing it properly |
| 05:41.26 | ThunderLord | "Announce it properly? |
| 05:41.50 | turtles | as in make a reddit thread and put a post in the team liquid general section |
| 05:41.59 | ThunderLord | gottcha |
| 05:42.09 | turtles | and try to get a caster to make an updated video |
| 05:42.22 | ThunderLord | that would be pretty cool |
| 05:42.51 | turtles | thanks :) |
| 05:42.59 | turtles | are you working on something yourself? |
| 05:43.07 | turtles | or getting into mapping? |
| 05:43.37 | ThunderLord | oh i have a project that is really far along |
| 05:43.47 | turtles | cool |
| 05:43.53 | ThunderLord | i guess the best way to describe it is a revamped, competitive version of footmen frenzy |
| 05:43.59 | turtles | I thought I recognized the name but wasn't sure |
| 05:44.03 | ThunderLord | but it is so differant from that |
| 05:44.33 | ThunderLord | kinda cool, atleast i think so http://www.facebook.com/SC2Frenzy |
| 05:44.55 | ThunderLord | planning to release an open version by the end of this month |
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| 05:46.39 | ThunderLord | for the saving and loading |
| 05:46.45 | ThunderLord | do you have to store like every unit? |
| 05:48.21 | turtles | have to store the unit type, health, shields, energy, current orders, waypoints, research progress, morphing progress, what units are in control groups...... the list goes on |
| 05:49.00 | ThunderLord | yeah, didnt think there was an easy way to do that |
| 05:49.06 | ThunderLord | badass |
| 05:49.22 | turtles | I might make a facebook page too |
| 05:49.31 | ThunderLord | yeah i like mine |
| 05:49.38 | ThunderLord | i just post stuff up on to it as i make it |
| 05:49.46 | ThunderLord | good tool for the closed beta testers |
| 05:49.53 | turtles | maybe it would be an easy way to get people interacting |
| 05:50.12 | ThunderLord | but, kinda no ballance testing in a tool like that, but still a facebook is really nice |
| 05:50.43 | turtles | true. I don't want to bump my TL thread everytime I make an update |
| 05:50.55 | turtles | cause I think that would just annoy everyone else |
| 05:51.10 | turtles | So I save it for massive changes |
| 05:51.19 | ThunderLord | yeah, i dont have a TL thread but i might make one soon |
| 05:51.21 | ThunderLord | yeah yeah |
| 05:51.25 | ThunderLord | its really nice |
| 05:51.26 | turtles | FB might be a good way to update people on the incrremental changes |
| 05:51.39 | ThunderLord | + its good for polls and stuff, like if you have some people on it |
| 05:54.49 | Dogmai | lol? |
| 05:54.51 | Dogmai | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/general-chat/45996-open-to-public-option-mafia/#p10 |
| 06:02.38 | Repo | New asset: Loading Screens - http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/loading-screens/ |
| 06:08.12 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 06:08.13 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 06:08.33 | Taintedwisp | I have found that since he quit being inactive i dont care for EW... |
| 06:08.50 | Taintedwisp | everywhere he post hes either talking down to someone else, or trolling himself... |
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| 06:41.28 | Dogmai | So |
| 06:41.35 | Dogmai | You decided to ban me |
| 06:42.06 | Dogmai | EternalWraith |
| 06:42.18 | Dogmai | You realise the shit you are pulling is front of a lot of eyes that hold power |
| 06:42.25 | EternalWraith | Temp ban yes. Your last reply was over the top. |
| 06:42.42 | Dogmai | Because some poor baby didn't like hearing the truth? |
| 06:42.52 | Dogmai | If you took offense to my post it means that indeed yes; you admit you are an asshole. |
| 06:42.55 | EternalWraith | Sigh |
| 06:43.10 | Dogmai | Oh |
| 06:43.13 | EternalWraith | You set a bad example. Insulting moderators, and that attitude. |
| 06:43.16 | Dogmai | And nice edit about Aos2 |
| 06:43.24 | Dogmai | Remove my comments relating to Aos2 |
| 06:43.27 | Dogmai | And how the team left you |
| 06:43.31 | Dogmai | because you were being a prick |
| 06:43.35 | Dogmai | Yes, Sc2mapster talks |
| 06:43.37 | EternalWraith | The team did not leave me. |
| 06:43.39 | Dogmai | And everyone knows what happened |
| 06:43.42 | EternalWraith | Which is why I edited it out |
| 06:44.05 | EternalWraith | You defaming my character is totally untrue and gives the wrong impression. |
| 06:44.12 | Dogmai | The same as you do to me? |
| 06:44.24 | Dogmai | Or the same as how you gloated backstage about editing your PM before I saw it? |
| 06:44.29 | Dogmai | A lot of people like me |
| 06:44.32 | Dogmai | Not many people like you |
| 06:44.54 | EternalWraith | On the internet? |
| 06:44.57 | EternalWraith | ;p |
| 06:45.23 | EternalWraith | But rules are rules, and its nothing personal. |
| 06:45.31 | Dogmai | lol? |
| 06:45.35 | Dogmai | You think I care? |
| 06:45.41 | Dogmai | All you did was show what a douche you are |
| 06:46.00 | Dogmai | You shouldn't be acting like this if you want a future in the industry |
| 06:46.06 | Dogmai | Shit like this will come back to bite you in the ass |
| 06:46.38 | EternalWraith | Im a moderator on a mapping site. Its hardly a monumental task and/or responsibility. |
| 06:46.55 | EternalWraith | How it relates to the industry is beyond me. |
| 06:48.48 | Dogmai | If being such said Moderator; you continually try and push anyone who shows knowledge (and hence has power over you) away from the website, there will be nothing left to Moderate. |
| 06:50.26 | EternalWraith | You can be good or "pro" editor but also humble. The two needn`t contradict each other. You dont always demonstrate that. Hence the warnings over time and now the temp ban. |
| 06:50.55 | Dogmai | Actually no, I just have a habit of calling people out for being assholes |
| 06:51.10 | Dogmai | Which is what I was trained to do in my IRL career |
| 06:51.16 | Dogmai | Nothing personal |
| 06:53.21 | EternalWraith | Yea but you know you cant exactly speak your mind on controlled internet forums. It sucks, but such is the nature. Personally I wouldn`t care if you insult me on the forums but as I said, it sets a bad example and the rule structure kicks in. |
| 06:54.18 | Taintedwisp | Watchin this is better then Primetime tv..... |
| 06:54.57 | Taintedwisp | For anyone tuning in, http://i.imgur.com/Harg2.png was what was edited... Im sure the rest of you have your popcorn for EW vs Dogmai part 150 |
| 06:55.40 | EternalWraith | Well it was edited out because its blatant lies. |
| 06:56.25 | EternalWraith | How is that fair to the people I work with to read that?. |
| 06:56.33 | Dogmai | Mate, don't call my bluff if you don't have the hand to back it up |
| 06:57.28 | Taintedwisp | You see fans, This time I was prepared for the editing and took a screenie |
| 06:57.29 | EternalWraith | Still dont know what AoS 2 has to do with this. Another reason to edit it out to avoid derailing why you were warned and now temp banned. |
| 06:57.41 | Dogmai | lol, I saved it to |
| 06:57.44 | Dogmai | cause I knew it was coming |
| 06:58.23 | EternalWraith | Its saved backstage for the moderators. Im not hiding/covering anything up. |
| 06:58.37 | EternalWraith | Irrelevant for the users though. |
| 06:58.38 | Taintedwisp | You know EW, dogmai, for now on imma just laugh at you both... apart you can be intelligent, but when you get together you act like 2 pissy kids |
| 06:59.09 | Dogmai | Ha, what can I say, I like to have fun |
| 06:59.16 | Dogmai | I ain't worried about anything |
| 06:59.28 | Dogmai | let people did their own graves |
| 06:59.35 | Dogmai | all I did was pass EW the shovel |
| 07:00.49 | EternalWraith | During the temp ban, You`ll have an opportunity to re-think your actions, Have some quite introspection etc. Hope it helps. |
| 07:01.24 | Taintedwisp | on 1 last thing before i get back to my show, EternalWraith, This DOES go back to the industry when you bring your bickering here, when you go somewhere else just to fight that is childish, and you know everything here is recorded and kept at blizzard right? just ask Deletarius, everyhting is tracked while hes in here. |
| 07:02.12 | Taintedwisp | Dogmai, my ending message to you, be nicer |
| 07:02.13 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 07:02.15 | Dogmai | And I hope that next time mate, you don't play your final hand |
| 07:02.24 | Dogmai | Because as to this point, I have never shown mine |
| 07:03.34 | EternalWraith | Lol;p |
| 07:05.04 | Dogmai | @ Tainted, I am well aware of what I say mate |
| 07:05.14 | Dogmai | A little bit of drama is good for both projects |
| 07:05.34 | Dogmai | I would not participate if it would not be beneficial to either myself or Tofu in the long run |
| 07:06.39 | EternalWraith | So Dogmai, How come I was never invited to beta-test Tofu?. Especially since you seem to hold AoS 2 in high regard(which I dont know why). |
| 07:08.33 | Dogmai | Arn't you on EU? |
| 07:09.31 | Dogmai | If you are on NA you are welcome to come |
| 07:09.38 | Dogmai | We should be having one later this week |
| 07:09.45 | Dogmai | Depending on when Dry finishes the tooltips |
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| 07:15.12 | EternalWraith | Have an NA account. If I get the time(and motivation to log into starcraft 2), would be nice. |
| 07:18.09 | Dogmai | I might have to upload a version with incomplete tooltips |
| 07:18.14 | Dogmai | Cause I need to get some gameplay videos |
| 07:18.19 | Dogmai | Dry says monday |
| 07:18.23 | Dogmai | But I can't wait that long |
| 07:18.29 | Dogmai | So it might be in like 1-2 days |
| 07:23.38 | Knor | Taintedwisp, brohaus |
| 07:23.46 | Taintedwisp | Can i come dogmai so when the inevitable fighting of EW and you in 1 game i can say JERRY JERRY JERRY |
| 07:24.07 | Taintedwisp | You see dogmai, there are some people who i ignore... such as that troll above |
| 07:25.46 | Dogmai | EW and I do not fight |
| 07:25.53 | Dogmai | We merely throw our weight around |
| 07:26.08 | Dogmai | Kinda like the beginning of a sumo match |
| 07:26.14 | Dogmai | Before either side strikes |
| 07:26.41 | EternalWraith | Yea..something like that. Lol. |
| 07:30.15 | Taintedwisp | I would say its closer to 2 cats bitchin at each other :P, but thats from a spectators point of view |
| 07:31.08 | Dogmai | No |
| 07:31.12 | Dogmai | Its a sign of mutual respect |
| 07:31.19 | Dogmai | Neither would be involved if they did not respect the other |
| 07:40.07 | Dogmai | FYI, the threads posted was the OP's multiple post spamming |
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| 07:40.21 | Dogmai | If you bothered to check them |
| 07:42.40 | EternalWraith | Yes. You made the post when?, Yesterday or the day before?. I read it then and did not mind too much. Today I specifically wanted to correct TaintedWisp only. He was going on that being pro map makers entitles you to so and so actions and what not, and he was actually out of line with those comments. |
| 07:43.04 | EternalWraith | If TaintedWisp hadn`t made his post, I would have just left that thread and your comment as is. |
| 07:43.06 | Dogmai | Actually he wasn't |
| 07:43.15 | Dogmai | As lulzy as he is |
| 07:43.18 | Dogmai | He speaks for the community |
| 07:43.23 | Taintedwisp | Whoa Eternal Dont bring me into it, unless you want a fight with me.... |
| 07:43.23 | Dogmai | And he has got a point |
| 07:43.36 | Dogmai | Moderators who have not proven their worth should not be talking down to the people who have |
| 07:43.40 | Taintedwisp | all i say is dont tell other members to blatently leave |
| 07:43.52 | Dogmai | Regardless if you have played the project or not, it exists and numerous people have |
| 07:44.53 | Dogmai | More people have played Tofu than have played AoS II, in fact, after nearly 3 years of development with AoS II, you are no where closer to release than you were over a year ago |
| 07:45.08 | Dogmai | And you got your name stolen by Sotis, that was funny as hell |
| 07:45.15 | Dogmai | I cracked the bed when Eck did that |
| 07:45.24 | Taintedwisp | 15 people have played Evofrenzy :P |
| 07:45.28 | Taintedwisp | trolo.l |
| 07:45.40 | EternalWraith | Eckolnovkol, only good for stealing ideas. |
| 07:46.19 | Taintedwisp | Hardly an original idea naming a project AoS |
| 07:46.45 | Taintedwisp | there was an AoS in Warcraft 2 if I recall |
| 07:46.49 | Taintedwisp | I know there was one in Sc1 :P |
| 07:47.17 | Taintedwisp | tthen again the term space marine came from the 1800s |
| 07:47.23 | Dogmai | Yeah well Eck goes right along with Icefrog in that regard, I will give you that much |
| 07:47.42 | Dogmai | I always figured AoS II was a waste of time |
| 07:47.49 | Dogmai | And would never be released |
| 07:47.59 | EternalWraith | Why is that? |
| 07:48.00 | Dogmai | Moba has evolved far away from AoS |
| 07:48.08 | Dogmai | Different times |
| 07:48.10 | Taintedwisp | but dogmai did you know.... |
| 07:48.11 | Taintedwisp | In 1950's Nintendo ran a chain of sex hotels, a cab company and also sold instant rice cooker. |
| 07:48.27 | Dogmai | You are basically wanting to remake Commander Keen in the age of Modern Warfare and Call of Duty |
| 07:48.36 | Dogmai | Niche market |
| 07:48.56 | Dogmai | I wish i ran a chain of sex hotels in japan |
| 07:49.00 | Dogmai | they are huge profit turners |
| 07:49.04 | Dogmai | No kidding |
| 07:49.16 | Dogmai | I watched a documentry on Australians going there and starting the hotels |
| 07:49.23 | Taintedwisp | also dogmai... |
| 07:49.24 | Taintedwisp | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:49.24 | Dogmai | Awesome returns |
| 07:49.26 | Taintedwisp | LOL |
| 07:49.33 | Dogmai | We dont have koolaid |
| 07:49.36 | Taintedwisp | https://twitter.com/WhatTheFFacts |
| 07:49.38 | Dogmai | I dont know what that is |
| 07:49.42 | Taintedwisp | I get atleast 2 good laughs dialy from them |
| 07:49.45 | Dogmai | I think its like what black people are meant to drink |
| 07:49.53 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 07:50.46 | Taintedwisp | I think EW might wanna look into this from what dogmai says :P |
| 07:50.47 | Taintedwisp | There is a phobia, known as the Jonah Complex in which a person has a fear of success that stops him/her from realizing his/her potential. |
| 07:50.56 | Taintedwisp | trolol |
| 07:51.19 | Dogmai | if I didn't care I wouldn't say anything at all |
| 07:51.35 | Dogmai | But even now, just over a week from release of Tofu |
| 07:51.44 | Dogmai | It has taken it's toll on me and those around me |
| 07:51.51 | Dogmai | Too bloody long |
| 07:52.22 | EternalWraith | Most projects dont see the light of day or completion. The editor is mostly to blame. Though I wouldn`t say AoS 2 is far from release. |
| 07:52.28 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 07:52.37 | Dogmai | Yeah, we said that a year ago |
| 07:52.42 | Dogmai | I will see you in 2015 |
| 07:53.21 | Taintedwisp | you can say the editor is to blame, but look at me... I came here 9 months ago, with no ideas nor inspiration or anything, I have 1 project completed and another on the way, Most projects dont see the light of day, because people bite off more then they can chew |
| 07:53.37 | Taintedwisp | wait nvm |
| 07:53.40 | Taintedwisp | its been 13 months now |
| 07:54.22 | Dogmai | http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dims3/GLOB/resize/550x600/http://www.blogcdn.com/www.mandatory.com/media/2012/09/moves-like-jager.jpg |
| 07:54.25 | EternalWraith | We`re also not even half way into the Sc2 life span. I dont see the immediate rush. My life is not depending on it or anything. Dont know about Dogmai though. |
| 07:54.55 | Dogmai | I want Tofu released so I can move onto bigger and better things |
| 07:54.57 | Dogmai | That is all. |
| 07:55.58 | Taintedwisp | meh I'm slow, and as team leader my team takes off any time they need :P. otherwise EvoFrenzy would have been completed 6 months ago hahah. but the project continues, I have had 3 sets of teammates now :P yet i keep it going, and if these 2 quit on me i will find 2 more who will continue with me, and as long as i do my part it will get finished haha |
| 07:56.50 | Taintedwisp | TOFU IS ALL YOU WILL EVER GET !!! :P jk, I am worried about the future of MOBA, dota was something that was evolving, then LoL and everyhting started popping up now its in some sort of stasis, and doesnt change any more not much anyways |
| 07:57.08 | EternalWraith | Assuming that can happen Dogmai. Bigger and better in terms of the game industry?. Its not the most accessible of work areas, and even then, the best on offer is at the highest level positions. |
| 07:57.16 | Taintedwisp | i would like to see 1 damn new terrain.... |
| 07:57.17 | EternalWraith | *Gaming |
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| 08:25.08 | Dogmai | @ EternalWraith, Taintedwisp back\ |
| 08:25.19 | Dogmai | Bigger and Better things are not relating to the Moba genre |
| 08:25.25 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 08:25.32 | Dogmai | The Moba genre has not been in any kind of evolution |
| 08:25.35 | Dogmai | It has stagnated |
| 08:25.47 | Dogmai | Which is where Tofu comes in, Tofu is so radically different |
| 08:25.53 | Taintedwisp | Well then what genre do you think will evolve? |
| 08:25.54 | Dogmai | It is everything Dota is not |
| 08:26.03 | Dogmai | Sandbox games |
| 08:26.09 | Taintedwisp | Personally my bet is on the RTS, i think it could really go somewhere |
| 08:26.26 | Taintedwisp | Sandbox i could see doing some things, but at the end of the day isnt it still just messing around in a box? |
| 08:26.32 | Dogmai | Casual Games will be where the market is at for the next 5 years or more IMO |
| 08:26.45 | Dogmai | Sandbox is anything you want it to be, set your own objectives |
| 08:26.47 | Taintedwisp | Casuals are already starting to decay |
| 08:27.17 | Dogmai | Casual Games as in non-hardcore |
| 08:27.18 | Taintedwisp | Cell phone and facebook games have started to decline a ton in the past 6 months |
| 08:27.22 | Taintedwisp | ohh |
| 08:27.28 | Taintedwisp | non competitive |
| 08:27.32 | Dogmai | Kinda of |
| 08:27.35 | Dogmai | Diablo is hardcore |
| 08:27.41 | Taintedwisp | in a way |
| 08:27.42 | Dogmai | Because of the amount of time investment required |
| 08:27.48 | Dogmai | Even without pvp |
| 08:27.56 | Dogmai | And dont forget the pay2win |
| 08:28.08 | Dogmai | Which was always gonna happen with any amount of time investment game |
| 08:28.18 | Dogmai | So that isn't a fault with Blizzard or D3 |
| 08:28.22 | Taintedwisp | Honestly dogmai you know what has the greatest chance?, while its still casual |
| 08:28.35 | Taintedwisp | Platformers to make their comeback |
| 08:28.35 | Dogmai | Well its thinking outside of the box |
| 08:28.42 | Dogmai | Minecraft is basically the biggest example |
| 08:28.47 | Taintedwisp | when nintendo sales the franchises :P its going to make a boom |
| 08:28.52 | Dogmai | Of stealing someone else's idea and doing it horribly and cashing in on it |
| 08:28.56 | Taintedwisp | Nintendo has screwed all their good franchises |
| 08:29.02 | Dogmai | I love Minecraft |
| 08:29.10 | Dogmai | But it could have been so much more |
| 08:29.18 | Dogmai | There is a new platform |
| 08:29.20 | Dogmai | Give me a sec |
| 08:29.22 | Taintedwisp | i hate minecraft, soo boring |
| 08:29.45 | Taintedwisp | I am waiting for the modern day RTS game |
| 08:29.48 | Dogmai | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console |
| 08:29.56 | Dogmai | This IMO |
| 08:29.58 | Dogmai | Is where it is at |
| 08:30.11 | Dogmai | You will find that Android/Linux will overtake the closed systems |
| 08:30.19 | Dogmai | Because closed systems stifle innovation |
| 08:30.43 | Dogmai | Valve has already stated that they wish Linux to be new default gaming platform |
| 08:30.52 | Dogmai | Because of MS's bullshit with Windoze 8 |
| 08:31.15 | Dogmai | I wish I knew about this when it was on kickstarter, because I would have got one |
| 08:31.45 | Taintedwisp | yeah but thats windows, they pull that every other OS |
| 08:31.51 | Dogmai | I believe the Indi market will overshadow the triple A developers |
| 08:31.56 | Taintedwisp | the next has a good chance to be great. |
| 08:31.57 | Dogmai | in terms of cashflow |
| 08:32.12 | Dogmai | Not one Indi company, but Indi as a whole |
| 08:32.20 | Taintedwisp | ehhh, nah, These indie games are okay, but they still lack the production quality |
| 08:32.32 | Dogmai | But people have shown that they do not care |
| 08:32.56 | Taintedwisp | Indie games are like watching a sundance film you always walk away thinking it could have been sooo much better if it had more money backing it |
| 08:33.11 | Dogmai | yes and no |
| 08:33.15 | Dogmai | You gotta remember |
| 08:33.20 | Dogmai | Indi is like battle net |
| 08:33.23 | Dogmai | 99% full of shit |
| 08:33.32 | Taintedwisp | 99.9999% |
| 08:33.33 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 08:33.41 | Dogmai | But those projects that do shine are the ones that require more time, investment and dedication |
| 08:33.54 | Dogmai | You should get vessel |
| 08:33.58 | Dogmai | It is a really cool little game |
| 08:34.03 | Dogmai | 'Vessel' |
| 08:34.13 | Dogmai | I got it as part of the humble indie bundle |
| 08:34.19 | Taintedwisp | I think the indie games may boom, but not on the tv, indie games or anything with less quality, as far as graphics tend to end up looking worse when made larger |
| 08:34.24 | Dogmai | I love it, so an awesome display of technology |
| 08:34.27 | Taintedwisp | ie Bastion, or limbo |
| 08:34.42 | Taintedwisp | I lik ethe idea of it being cheap |
| 08:34.42 | Dogmai | Graphics are not a problem |
| 08:34.48 | Dogmai | Can't afford graphic artists? |
| 08:34.53 | Dogmai | Simply allow people to texture pack it |
| 08:35.15 | Taintedwisp | For me to like a game it has to have Graphics, Story, and good gameplay |
| 08:35.16 | Dogmai | I made my own Minecraft Texture Pack (as close to the original as possible) and it is a million times better than Minecraft |
| 08:35.24 | Dogmai | Whilst still looking like and feeling like Minecraft |
| 08:35.26 | Dogmai | Without the headaches |
| 08:35.31 | Taintedwisp | Thats because minecraft looks like doom 1 |
| 08:35.37 | Taintedwisp | God i hate minecrafts graphics |
| 08:35.42 | Taintedwisp | no wait... Doom 1 looked better |
| 08:35.49 | Dogmai | Out of curiosity |
| 08:35.53 | Taintedwisp | now castle story... that looks a bit better |
| 08:35.53 | Dogmai | Do you like it in that order? |
| 08:36.00 | Dogmai | I have castle story |
| 08:36.10 | Dogmai | Castle Story stole my ideas! |
| 08:36.14 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 08:36.20 | Taintedwisp | I love the idea of an RTS sandbox |
| 08:36.21 | Dogmai | I should have been doing that instead of Tofu -_- |
| 08:36.25 | Taintedwisp | well its not really an RTS but its cool |
| 08:36.38 | Dogmai | I wrote a brief years ago, before I started Tofu |
| 08:36.54 | Dogmai | About a game similar to Castle story |
| 08:37.01 | Taintedwisp | I am waiting for a modern warfare RTS game |
| 08:37.08 | Taintedwisp | Where your entire battles come from one city |
| 08:37.24 | Dogmai | There could be an option for MMORTS |
| 08:37.25 | Taintedwisp | Where you tell units which corners to sneak around and such |
| 08:37.36 | Dogmai | There is a game coming out that is a RTS/FPS |
| 08:37.42 | Dogmai | One person builds shit |
| 08:37.52 | Dogmai | Whilst the rest play the soldiers on the ground |
| 08:37.54 | Taintedwisp | There was a RTS FPS back in the day |
| 08:37.59 | Taintedwisp | I forget what it was called though |
| 08:38.09 | Dogmai | The new simcity is a bit like a MMORTS |
| 08:38.12 | Taintedwisp | You comanded your army, and whenever you wanted you could control the units you were ording |
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| 08:40.21 | Taintedwisp | Damn i cant remember the name of that game |
| 08:40.22 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 08:40.36 | Taintedwisp | Personally I hope F2P is the one that succeeds. |
| 08:40.37 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 08:40.46 | Taintedwisp | and I hope triple A games switch to it |
| 08:41.36 | Taintedwisp | Of course I am the same guy who thinks when googles Augmented reality comes out, pokemon will be developed for it, and you could actually capture and fight pokemon with your glasses :DDDD |
| 08:41.42 | Taintedwisp | man that would be BADASS |
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| 08:48.09 | Dogmai | I rather not |
| 08:48.14 | Dogmai | F2P gets assholes |
| 08:48.19 | Dogmai | Self entitled little shits |
| 08:48.23 | Dogmai | That expect the world to be free |
| 08:48.31 | Dogmai | I would rather pay money for a good community |
| 08:48.40 | Monkalizer | hi, how do i write math things in expression fields? I would like to calculate x*sin(a) |
| 08:48.56 | Dogmai | no idea |
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| 09:02.05 | Dogmai | I just got an email |
| 09:02.09 | Dogmai | I am so happy right now |
| 09:02.14 | Monkalizer | what about |
| 09:02.27 | Dogmai | secret -x- |
| 09:02.47 | Dogmai | My mum has found a nice house in the city |
| 09:02.50 | Dogmai | Not really in the city |
| 09:02.54 | Dogmai | But in the greater city area |
| 09:02.59 | Dogmai | Cause at the moment I live in the country |
| 09:03.13 | Dogmai | Like 4-5 hours away from the city |
| 09:03.34 | Dogmai | oh damn |
| 09:03.37 | Dogmai | i just saw the price tag |
| 09:03.39 | Dogmai | fml |
| 09:03.41 | Dogmai | i take that back |
| 09:03.44 | Dogmai | not happy |
| 09:04.16 | Monkalizer | ^^ common story |
| 09:04.24 | Dogmai | Mate |
| 09:04.39 | Dogmai | You know the median house price in the area I grew up? |
| 09:04.44 | Dogmai | Like 1.5million |
| 09:04.52 | Dogmai | And its not even a super good area |
| 09:05.09 | Monkalizer | ok |
| 09:05.23 | Monkalizer | australian dollars? |
| 09:06.14 | Monkalizer | hm, seems very expensive... |
| 09:08.21 | Dogmai | yea |
| 09:08.26 | Dogmai | Its roughly the same as USD |
| 09:08.38 | Dogmai | Australia is slightly higher, but by like 2-5% (nearly nothing) |
| 09:09.53 | Monkalizer | does she have the cash to spend or is she borrowing it |
| 09:09.59 | Dogmai | its me |
| 09:10.13 | Dogmai | I don't have half a million in cash |
| 09:11.12 | Dogmai | And I don't think because I have been self-employed my whole life and in the last 2 years purposely did nothing but Tofu that I can secure a mortgage anywhere near that high |
| 09:11.31 | Dogmai | Because self employers need 2 years of fianancials |
| 09:12.04 | Dogmai | I think my borrowing limit it probably down to 200-300k |
| 09:12.09 | Dogmai | Which is nearly nothing |
| 09:12.17 | Dogmai | Median house prices are 450k |
| 09:12.37 | Monkalizer | oh, i misunderstood, i thought your mother bought a house. hm.. that seems a bit too much |
| 09:12.37 | Dogmai | I have mates who can borrow 750k at a time |
| 09:13.17 | Dogmai | If I got a good amount of work I could probably secure 1 million (not that I would want a mortage that high) |
| 09:13.32 | Dogmai | My mum has a house, but I am a bit too old to live with her mate |
| 09:13.39 | Dogmai | I have a house, just not in the city |
| 09:14.29 | Dogmai | Hmm, this house has been on the market for more than 6 months |
| 09:14.36 | Dogmai | Its listed at around 430k |
| 09:14.48 | Dogmai | But valuations have put it at 360 - 400 |
| 09:16.04 | Dogmai | At the moment its the bottom of the market |
| 09:16.11 | Dogmai | Houseprices havnt moved for a very long time |
| 09:16.15 | Dogmai | The average listing is like nearly a year |
| 09:16.17 | Dogmai | Nothing is selling |
| 09:16.26 | Dogmai | because everything is overpriced |
| 09:16.42 | Dogmai | And there is a world of difference between a house that is 300k and 400k |
| 09:17.13 | Monkalizer | hm, we have a similar thing going on in sweden. we missed the mortage crisis (people continue to borrow crazy amounts), mostly in Stockholm (capital) region |
| 09:17.14 | Dogmai | And that is the limit for people around my age |
| 09:17.29 | Dogmai | We had the resources boom |
| 09:17.35 | Dogmai | Over inflated our land prices |
| 09:17.43 | Dogmai | because the government didnt release land fast enough |
| 09:17.54 | Dogmai | Everyone moved to our state because they worked on the mines |
| 09:18.23 | Dogmai | Houseprices went from ~ 70,000 to 1.5million in the space of 2 years up north |
| 09:18.34 | Dogmai | If I only knew what I knew now 10 years ago |
| 09:18.49 | Dogmai | I would have told my family to liquidate everything we own and buy up all the land up north |
| 09:19.26 | Dogmai | Like our old house went from 300k to 1.8m in 5 years |
| 09:19.48 | Dogmai | My mum sold it just before the "very fast slope" of the boom -_- |
| 09:20.00 | Dogmai | It would have dropped now down to maybe 1.2-1.4 |
| 09:20.40 | Dogmai | Bad choices at bad times |
| 09:23.58 | Monkalizer | still, she earned a little bit of money |
| 09:24.52 | Dogmai | She kept the money in the bank for two years until she bought another house (at the top of the boom) |
| 09:25.00 | Dogmai | I got nothing to say about that -_- |
| 09:25.09 | Dogmai | Cest la vie |
| 09:44.54 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 09:45.11 | Taintedwisp | Meh everyone makes bad buisness decisions in their lifetime at some time :P |
| 09:47.56 | Dogmai | yea |
| 09:48.22 | Dogmai | I once had this awesome idea of taking two years off work and making this game named after a really bland asian food substance |
| 09:48.27 | Dogmai | o_O |
| 09:48.44 | Taintedwisp | Hey I was thinking everyone wants a larger inventory system, and if units (like the marine) canuse abilities inside of another unit, couldnt you use units as items, and Cargo as an inventory? |
| 09:49.22 | Taintedwisp | just a thought |
| 09:49.22 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 09:49.37 | Dogmai | ill get dry for u |
| 09:49.39 | Dogmai | 1 sec |
| 09:49.56 | Taintedwisp | damn is he on this early? |
| 09:50.03 | Dogmai | he hasnt slept yet |
| 09:50.07 | Dogmai | he is running on australian time |
| 09:50.09 | Dogmai | im not kidding |
| 09:50.13 | Dogmai | because we have been working so much |
| 09:50.21 | Dogmai | and i cant stay up cause I gotta take the girl to work everyday |
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| 09:50.34 | Dryeyece | sup |
| 09:50.46 | Dogmai | Hey I was thinking everyone wants a larger inventory system, and if units (like the marine) canuse abilities inside of another unit, couldnt you use units as items, and Cargo as an inventory |
| 09:50.51 | Dogmai | ^^ |
| 09:51.04 | Dogmai | from Taintedwisp |
| 09:51.31 | Dryeyece | ive thought about it |
| 09:51.36 | Taintedwisp | just a random idea before i got to bed :P |
| 09:52.15 | Taintedwisp | of course to save the inventory triggers would be a must |
| 09:52.20 | Dryeyece | because transport abilities can put a behavior on the transport when it gains a unit, and take it off when they unload a unit |
| 09:53.03 | Dryeyece | the most feasible way of doing it I have come up with so far is to have passive items stored in the transport, and activatable items stored in the inventory |
| 09:53.47 | Dryeyece | alas though its not a very good idea |
| 09:53.51 | Taintedwisp | but what if you gave the activateable items health, and then made the ability they fire off cost vital? |
| 09:54.03 | Dryeyece | because transports drop cargo or kill it when they die theres no way around that |
| 09:54.14 | Taintedwisp | ahhh |
| 09:54.30 | Dryeyece | marines in bunnkers get their stimpack order issued to them from the bunker |
| 09:54.34 | Taintedwisp | it was just a quick idea that popped into my head :P |
| 09:54.48 | Taintedwisp | ahhh i see |
| 09:54.53 | Dryeyece | so your hero or whoever has the transport ability with the units in it would have to have a command card slot for every item |
| 09:55.11 | Dryeyece | yeah its popped into mine several times |
| 09:55.15 | Dryeyece | always dead ends though lol |
| 09:55.37 | Taintedwisp | :P okie |
| 09:55.44 | Taintedwisp | also i got bored so this video was made a few days ago |
| 09:55.45 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBb1moAzKQI&feature=g-upl |
| 09:55.46 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 09:56.03 | Taintedwisp | there really isnt nothing to do with the music i just wanted to listen to bw music |
| 09:57.14 | Taintedwisp | alright well thanks for listening to my random ass question that really pertained to no project or anything whatsoever :P |
| 09:58.30 | Taintedwisp | well its 5 am and I stayed up way too late... again... |
| 09:58.42 | Taintedwisp | watching tv and talking to that asshole dogmai :P |
| 09:58.47 | Taintedwisp | peace out everyone |
| 09:58.50 | Dogmai | lol |
| 09:58.53 | Dogmai | peace |
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| 10:21.02 | Monkalizer | im working with cameras, and i have problems with angles. im fetching the angle from a point and use that angle to set the yaw (rotation) of the camera... somehow it gets choppy around 0 and 360 degrees. any ideas how to solve it? |
| 10:21.53 | Dogmai | what do you mean choppy |
| 10:22.59 | Monkalizer | um, the camera starts to rotate only after a while, and the camera skips 180 degrees when the ship has rotated a full circle... |
| 10:25.18 | Ahli | camera uses 0.0 to 360 degrees |
| 10:25.27 | Ahli | units use -180 to 180 |
| 10:25.41 | Ahli | you need to "fix" that |
| 10:26.15 | Monkalizer | ah, yeah, made a printout. you are very correct |
| 10:26.48 | Monkalizer | how should i correct this... oh wise Ahli |
| 10:27.26 | Ahli | if angle < 0.0 -> add 360 |
| 10:28.10 | Monkalizer | it seems like the camera is the one having trouble... |
| 10:28.14 | Monkalizer | but i will try it |
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| 10:32.02 | Dryeyece | anyone have any luck resetting cooldowns on abils via the modify unit effect? |
| 10:34.36 | Monkalizer | thx ahli now it works |
| 10:34.58 | turtles | Finally got rid of my old chair which was broken and leaned to the side. Replaced it with a fancy $100 chair |
| 10:35.05 | turtles | I feel like a king on a throne |
| 10:35.28 | turtles | also I just got caught up in teh dramas that happened while I was away |
| 10:35.46 | turtles | and commander keen kicked arse! Someone should totally remake that :D |
| 10:36.10 | turtles | it would fail completely but I would play it :) |
| 10:37.33 | Zolden | commander keen? |
| 10:37.37 | Zolden | where he jumps? |
| 10:40.19 | turtles | yep |
| 10:40.36 | turtles | but he has a POGO STICK as well |
| 10:40.46 | turtles | (and a gun) |
| 10:41.44 | turtles | lol, totally going to spend the next 10 minutes looking at commander keen speed runs |
| 10:53.55 | EternalWraith | Ive watched Doom speedruns and even I think, a Mario speedrun the one time. Lol |
| 10:57.04 | turtles | he spends the game collecting ice creams, lollipops, coke bottles... everything unhealthy. I wonder if the game would get flac for it in this day and age |
| 11:01.23 | Saeris | http://youtu.be/K14RnTVt194 |
| 11:02.26 | Monkalizer | anyone who knows something about the animation/actor that tilts ships, what is it called? I would like to send a "tilt" message to a unit |
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| 11:04.45 | Zolden | Monkalizer: you mean where he turns around? |
| 11:05.33 | Zolden | is it s a separate animation? |
| 11:05.41 | Zolden | or it's kind of trick? |
| 11:06.45 | Monkalizer | i dont know... i really dont. |
| 11:07.08 | Monkalizer | thing is im using triggers to move a unit, but when it rotates, the tilt animation or whatever it is wont fire |
| 11:07.19 | Zolden | i think there should be something about it in the ship's events |
| 11:08.22 | Zolden | i have always been wondering why ppl use "won't" instead of "doesn't" |
| 11:11.47 | Ahli | banker tilt ships |
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| 11:12.51 | Zolden | viking's events doesn't seem to have anyting tilt related |
| 11:16.48 | Zolden | anyone remember any zerg-looking creatures from wow? |
| 11:17.09 | Zolden | not exactly like zerg, but anything similar or close |
| 11:17.20 | Zolden | i want more creeps for my td |
| 11:23.33 | Monkalizer | is it possible to set a units texture by triggers? |
| 11:26.40 | *** join/#sc2mapster lefix (~lefix@5.28.70.109) |
| 11:28.51 | Zolden | Monkalizer: i guess you can do select texture by id via triggers |
| 11:30.24 | *** join/#sc2mapster zenxu (d9186981@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.24.105.129) |
| 11:33.49 | zenxu | hello |
| 11:33.55 | Zolden | hi |
| 11:35.18 | zenxu | after visiting school and doing school stuff I feel like doing nothing again |
| 11:35.20 | zenxu | :/ |
| 11:37.28 | Zolden | do more school stuff! |
| 11:37.44 | zenxu | I still need to do that :( |
| 11:37.47 | zenxu | *cries* |
| 11:37.55 | zenxu | I have deadline on 10th of this month |
| 11:38.29 | Zolden | it's 12th yet |
| 11:39.33 | zenxu | hmm? dont scare |
| 11:39.34 | zenxu | me |
| 11:39.38 | zenxu | I was like IS IT TODAY |
| 11:39.43 | Zolden | :) |
| 11:39.51 | Dogmai | I remember school |
| 11:39.56 | Dogmai | I hated it -_- |
| 11:40.07 | Dogmai | It wasn't until I got out into high education that I liked it |
| 11:40.11 | Dogmai | Different ways of teaching |
| 11:40.13 | Zolden | strange, i thought we all are nerds |
| 11:40.30 | Dogmai | I aint a nerd |
| 11:40.42 | Dogmai | I use to spend everyday down the beach |
| 11:40.43 | zenxu | the way of teaching for me hasnt changed for 20 years |
| 11:40.47 | zenxu | its so stupid |
| 11:40.52 | zenxu | that it really doesnt get better |
| 11:41.11 | Dogmai | They are starting to realise that here |
| 11:41.15 | zenxu | Im not sure if Im smart or stupid since I feel like the school stuff is useless and too easy |
| 11:41.15 | Dogmai | And are changing teaching methods |
| 11:41.24 | Dogmai | Put me in a classroom with a blackboard and I get bored shitless |
| 11:41.26 | zenxu | since its so easy I might be stupid |
| 11:41.28 | Zolden | wtf wow think he's doing |
| 11:41.35 | Dogmai | Put me in a hands on environment I outpace everyone else |
| 11:41.40 | Zolden | look what it did to ling: http://snag.gy/DTZqR.jpg |
| 11:42.04 | zenxu | what |
| 11:42.07 | zenxu | thats so badass |
| 11:42.13 | zenxu | how did you acuire such skill? |
| 11:42.32 | zenxu | ah |
| 11:42.35 | zenxu | skin from wow? |
| 11:42.38 | zenxu | and put it on zerg? |
| 11:42.46 | Zolden | kinda |
| 11:42.55 | lefix | today, i'm gonna be happy when i manage to change the default ui :D |
| 11:43.09 | Dogmai | nice felhound |
| 11:43.13 | lefix | breaking the ui does count too |
| 11:43.22 | Dogmai | We just started custom painting the models in tofu |
| 11:43.32 | lefix | tofu? |
| 11:43.42 | Dogmai | Granted its super rushed and looks really bad in photoshop, but it looks good in game |
| 11:43.45 | Zolden | Dogmai: I'd prefer you start custom upload it |
| 11:43.48 | Dogmai | later on I want to go do them all again |
| 11:43.55 | Dogmai | We have a release day |
| 11:43.58 | Dogmai | -_- |
| 11:43.59 | zenxu | so when is tofu coming to EU? |
| 11:44.07 | Dogmai | Weekend of the 15th |
| 11:44.13 | zenxu | I thought it was public on NA, is it not? |
| 11:44.18 | Dogmai | No |
| 11:44.20 | Dogmai | Private |
| 11:44.21 | Zolden | u mean 2015th |
| 11:44.38 | Dogmai | Zolden, that only works when Tofu aint finished |
| 11:44.51 | zenxu | hahha |
| 11:44.55 | zenxu | good one zolden |
| 11:45.04 | Zolden | tofu finished is like global warming happpened |
| 11:45.15 | lefix | wth is tofu? |
| 11:45.25 | Zolden | lefix: no one knows |
| 11:45.38 | Dogmai | In 2 weeks, you will know |
| 11:45.55 | Dogmai | It will be the most famous blandest chinese food ever |
| 11:46.04 | lefix | what if i have cancer and only 1 week to live |
| 11:46.31 | Zolden | i think it will be just pacman with custom food point skins |
| 11:46.33 | Dogmai | Then you better pray to god that you get in on a privately hosted beta session with me |
| 11:46.37 | Dogmai | :P |
| 11:47.27 | Zolden | my cat wants to join a private session with you |
| 11:47.41 | Zolden | but he can't click, he can only stare at monitor and catch moving spots |
| 11:47.52 | Zolden | hope it will be enough to test |
| 11:48.08 | Dogmai | He likes to eat bugs yea |
| 11:48.10 | Dogmai | Like other cats |
| 11:48.14 | Dogmai | Thats what we need in a tester |
| 11:48.17 | Dogmai | A bug catcher |
| 11:48.47 | Zolden | hope he won't sleep when you invite |
| 11:48.56 | Dogmai | Oh come on, no lols? |
| 11:49.03 | Dogmai | THat was an awesome come back |
| 11:49.07 | turtles | lol |
| 11:49.10 | Dogmai | Really witty |
| 11:49.18 | turtles | Also, get that cat a touchscreen |
| 11:49.28 | turtles | 500 APM |
| 11:49.42 | Ahli | korean cat? |
| 11:49.44 | Dogmai | Like the frog playing that squish game |
| 11:49.59 | Zolden | if i get the cat a touch screen, he will spend all days in internet chatting with other cats |
| 11:50.49 | Zolden | and it will be very stupid, a chat full of "meow" words |
| 11:50.59 | Zolden | very stupid |
| 11:51.09 | Dogmai | http://www.mandatory.com/2012/09/11/funny-photo-hall-of-fame/42 |
| 11:51.15 | Dogmai | oldie but a goodie |
| 12:01.27 | Zolden | it has stolen 10 minutes of my time, i could spend it on mapping! |
| 12:03.31 | Dogmai | I just put on the lazy song by bruno mars |
| 12:03.34 | Dogmai | im like yo dryeyece |
| 12:03.38 | Dogmai | this is the theme song for tofu |
| 12:03.48 | Dogmai | he hasnt said anything, i dont think he is impressed -_- |
| 12:03.59 | lefix | does anyone have an idea why it won't let me use custom ui layout files? when i browse to and select the layout file, the "ok" button is greyed out |
| 12:04.13 | Dogmai | save the map first then do it |
| 12:04.19 | Dogmai | import save |
| 12:04.21 | Dogmai | edit save |
| 12:04.37 | Dogmai | anytime you import something, save it |
| 12:04.48 | Dogmai | otherwise you will have trouble |
| 12:04.55 | lefix | i did, it's still greyed out |
| 12:05.01 | Dogmai | reopen the map |
| 12:05.07 | Dogmai | if that doesnt work reload the editor |
| 12:05.09 | lefix | does it have to be in a specific folder? |
| 12:05.12 | Dogmai | it works in our map |
| 12:05.14 | Dogmai | no |
| 12:05.17 | Dogmai | i dont believe so |
| 12:05.19 | Dogmai | ours is just in root |
| 12:05.26 | lefix | hmm |
| 12:05.58 | lefix | i really must be missing something |
| 12:06.51 | Dogmai | it is .SC2Layout yea |
| 12:07.25 | Ahli | lol, the king kong one |
| 12:07.54 | Zolden | yea :) |
| 12:09.46 | lefix | somehow, my editor is never letting me do stuff like it is supposed to be done :D |
| 12:10.00 | Dogmai | i just got to the king kong one |
| 12:10.04 | Dogmai | lololol |
| 12:10.06 | Dogmai | it got me |
| 12:10.07 | Dogmai | so good |
| 12:10.39 | Dogmai | it got my girlfriend too |
| 12:10.41 | Dogmai | O_O |
| 12:10.45 | Dogmai | O_O |
| 12:10.49 | Zolden | lol |
| 12:10.54 | Dogmai | does that mean, by process of elimination? |
| 12:11.01 | Dogmai | O_O |
| 12:13.05 | Dogmai | the domain one was pretty funny |
| 12:13.12 | Dogmai | when I first start my graphic design firm |
| 12:13.17 | Dogmai | I was gonna call it Nu Designs |
| 12:13.36 | Dogmai | then I realised that the domian would be www.nudesigns.com |
| 12:13.43 | Dogmai | I dodged a bullet with that one |
| 12:13.46 | Ahli | ^^ |
| 12:15.45 | Monkalizer | how do i remove the fog of war completely? add a revealer? |
| 12:16.36 | Dogmai | action - vision |
| 12:16.38 | Dogmai | take a look |
| 12:16.52 | Monkalizer | ah |
| 12:16.57 | Dogmai | i forget but there are only a couple of things you can do with vision |
| 12:16.59 | Monkalizer | im so lazy today |
| 12:17.02 | Dogmai | its one of them |
| 12:17.03 | Monkalizer | ask before i think |
| 12:18.04 | Dogmai | you're fine mate |
| 12:18.22 | Dogmai | very few things are in weird places in the trigger editor |
| 12:18.27 | Dogmai | most of it is where you would expect it |
| 12:18.45 | Monkalizer | yeah, i now |
| 12:18.48 | Monkalizer | know |
| 12:19.25 | Monkalizer | a question which is more difficult: i want a nice space backdrop, which of the tilesets has the best looking skybox? |
| 12:19.36 | Dogmai | that you are gonna have to check |
| 12:19.38 | Dogmai | make a new map |
| 12:19.41 | Dogmai | change the tileset 1 by 1 |
| 12:19.59 | Monkalizer | mjeah, so many to try out... :S lazy lazy day |
| 12:20.01 | Dogmai | there is a picture of all the terrains on my wbesite |
| 12:20.04 | Dogmai | but not the backgrounds |
| 12:20.12 | G0A | what skybox you want? |
| 12:20.35 | Monkalizer | space one |
| 12:20.40 | Dogmai | http://www.mandatory.com/2012/11/01/the-funniest-photos-you-will-see-today-11-1-12/7 |
| 12:20.42 | Dogmai | omg |
| 12:20.44 | Dogmai | i know this |
| 12:20.47 | G0A | there is one with only stars |
| 12:20.48 | Dogmai | we have these everywhere |
| 12:21.18 | Monkalizer | gonna make a planetary shooter: you fly around a battlecruiser with numpad commands, targeting is automatic, you just fly. i want to make it look like its in outer space ^^ |
| 12:21.34 | G0A | so you want that |
| 12:21.48 | Dogmai | it might be better to reconsider numpad to qwer,asdf,zxcv, |
| 12:21.49 | Monkalizer | yous |
| 12:21.51 | Monkalizer | yes |
| 12:22.00 | Monkalizer | hm... |
| 12:22.21 | G0A | you have to set it at the tileset, its name something starsimple or starbasic |
| 12:22.44 | Monkalizer | but i need so many keys, the numpad keyes are nice since they are so organized: forward/backward throttle, sideways throtle, rotation throttle and altitude throttles |
| 12:22.53 | Monkalizer | and brake |
| 12:23.33 | Monkalizer | thats 9 keyes :) |
| 12:25.42 | Dogmai | okay so lets work this out |
| 12:26.32 | Monkalizer | player 1 will control the ship, while player 2 will control the gunzz |
| 12:26.46 | Dogmai | Q rotate < || W forward throttle || E > rotate |
| 12:27.03 | Dogmai | A left, || S backward, || D right |
| 12:27.28 | Dogmai | Z alt up || X brake || C alt down |
| 12:27.40 | Dogmai | or change zxc to 123 |
| 12:27.58 | Dogmai | when people type on a numpad |
| 12:28.02 | Dogmai | they use their right hand |
| 12:28.05 | Dogmai | the same as the one on the mouse |
| 12:28.19 | Dogmai | holding your left hand to the numpad is unnatural to most |
| 12:28.20 | Monkalizer | hm yeah maybe you are right.. |
| 12:28.25 | Dogmai | and i believe no one has a clean enough desk |
| 12:28.28 | Dogmai | to mvoe their keyboard |
| 12:29.32 | Monkalizer | hehe thats true for sure. my desk is cluttred with coffe cups |
| 12:29.58 | Dogmai | i got tonnes of stuff |
| 12:30.02 | Dogmai | quirky little things |
| 12:30.20 | Dogmai | not to mention my screens are chained together and to my computer |
| 12:30.28 | Dogmai | with half inch thick chain |
| 12:30.32 | Dogmai | -_- |
| 12:32.03 | Dogmai | nto because they are worth alot |
| 12:32.11 | Dogmai | but more that if someone did break in |
| 12:32.13 | Dogmai | they would take a look |
| 12:32.15 | Dogmai | go fuck that shit |
| 12:32.17 | Dogmai | and take the TV |
| 12:32.29 | Dogmai | everything is insured, but i dont want to loose my computer o_O |
| 12:32.46 | *** join/#sc2mapster TwoDie (4e3c1a28@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.60.26.40) |
| 12:33.00 | TwoDie | Zolden! |
| 12:33.05 | Zolden | yea? |
| 12:33.36 | TwoDie | how to disable accelaration in 3ds max animations when animating bones? |
| 12:33.54 | Zolden | there is a little button at bottom |
| 12:34.05 | Zolden | near animation transport panel |
| 12:34.06 | TwoDie | square? |
| 12:34.08 | Dogmai | take your finger off the accelerator button |
| 12:34.19 | Dogmai | or alternatively |
| 12:34.21 | Zolden | with a little line |
| 12:34.22 | Dogmai | click the brake button |
| 12:35.11 | Zolden | if you press it, there will be more key mode buttions with little lines on them |
| 12:36.23 | Zolden | the one with tstraight line has no acceleration |
| 12:36.25 | TwoDie | ohhh so what to choose then ? |
| 12:36.41 | TwoDie | dot and line going down? |
| 12:36.50 | TwoDie | endelessly |
| 12:38.33 | Dogmai | http://www.mandatory.com/2012/10/29/the-funniest-photos-you-will-see-today-10-29-12/8 |
| 12:38.35 | Dogmai | omg |
| 12:40.19 | Dogmai | http://www.mandatory.com/2012/10/29/the-funniest-photos-you-will-see-today-10-29-12/10 |
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| 12:48.59 | Monkalizer | my battlecruiser should not turn to face the target its shooting at, how do i achieve this? I tried looking through the actor events, but saw no "turning" or "rotating" thing there |
| 12:49.22 | Monkalizer | does it need a rotating turret on top like the immortal? |
| 12:49.23 | Zolden | set weapon arc to 360 |
| 12:50.44 | Monkalizer | hm |
| 12:50.51 | Monkalizer | lets see if it works |
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| 13:06.15 | Zolden | TwoDie: ok, trying to sc2-tize wow models |
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| 13:33.48 | Zolden | TwoDie: |
| 13:33.49 | Zolden | http://snag.gy/RBvk8.jpg |
| 13:33.53 | Zolden | it worked |
| 13:34.00 | Zolden | we can make wow models pretty |
| 13:34.19 | Zolden | even with 128x128 texture resolution |
| 13:37.16 | TwoDie | How about human model? |
| 13:38.42 | Zolden | same |
| 13:38.51 | Zolden | just 2 things: no import normals |
| 13:39.31 | Zolden | and "Clear all" and "Autosmooth" buttons on polygons |
| 13:39.59 | Zolden | the one I showed was messed, but what I said fixes it |
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| 13:42.50 | Zolden | maybe the clear all part isn't necessary, I only applied it to high poly model to make normal |
| 13:43.37 | Ahli | can you edit/fix attachment points, too? |
| 13:43.59 | Monkalizer | Zolden: the battlecruiser is still twitching when it tries to rotate into position. i changed the weapons angle range |
| 13:45.00 | Zolden | Ahli: yea |
| 13:45.09 | Monkalizer | stpd... now it works. my edits did not stick by some reason |
| 13:45.20 | Zolden | :) |
| 13:45.25 | Ahli | which program, zolden? |
| 13:45.31 | Zolden | 3d max |
| 13:45.45 | Ahli | only got blender and I'm to stupid for it :D |
| 13:45.54 | Zolden | need to fix something? |
| 13:46.57 | Ahli | blood is always drawn on the origin of the model and not on the feet... a few other models make attached models HUGE... |
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| 13:49.58 | Zolden | gimme one of that with huge attachments |
| 13:50.07 | Zolden | i'll try to fix |
| 13:50.56 | Zolden | btw, do you have inherit host's scale in flags of attachable model? |
| 13:51.33 | TwoDie | here is fully animated Battering Ram http://snag.gy/Xg9aQ.jpg |
| 13:51.39 | Ahli | not accepted, not inherited |
| 13:51.51 | Ahli | I think an animation causes that :S |
| 13:51.57 | Ahli | because it's not there all the time |
| 13:54.14 | Zolden | Ahli, ok, gimme the model |
| 13:54.49 | Zolden | TwoDie: cool |
| 13:55.08 | Zolden | let's see how ill it look in game |
| 13:55.55 | Ahli | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4479839/zombiegreen.m3 |
| 13:56.04 | Ahli | texture, too? |
| 13:57.25 | Zolden | yea |
| 13:57.52 | Ahli | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4479839/zombiegreen_ChangableTexture1.tga should be this I think |
| 14:00.23 | Zolden | sec, just lemme finish my model |
| 14:00.49 | Dustin|Work | Mornin |
| 14:01.45 | Zolden | evening, dustin |
| 14:05.28 | Saeris | I'm about to go to bed, but: http://i.imgur.com/Mxomx.jpg generated textures using nDo2 |
| 14:05.46 | Saeris | can use that plugin to make extra textures in order to make WoW models look better in SC2 |
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| 14:06.19 | Zolden | Saeris: badass |
| 14:06.32 | Saeris | try playing around with it, it's a plugin for photoshop http://quixel.se/ndo/ |
| 14:07.36 | Zolden | alright |
| 14:07.46 | Zolden | ty |
| 14:08.05 | Saeris | since shadows/surface nromals are hand painted in WoW rather than modeled, some textures don't always generate very good maps. but in general it's very easy to get good results |
| 14:08.38 | Saeris | WoW fakes a lot of details in order to run smoothly |
| 14:10.10 | Zolden | yeah, those fake reflections kinda ruin normals |
| 14:10.54 | Zolden | for example, this guy: http://snag.gy/kzVQc.jpg |
| 14:11.23 | Saeris | well when they are done correctly, they'll still make alright normals. when they tur out bad, it may be possible that the artist just didn't paint the surface accurately |
| 14:11.28 | Zolden | darker hair look pushed ;/ |
| 14:13.51 | Monkalizer | spaceshooter minigame: http://snag.gy/nCKl3.jpg |
| 14:14.22 | Monkalizer | the science vessels orbit around the "planet". you controll the battlecruiser by steering its thrusters |
| 14:14.38 | Zolden | nice :) |
| 14:14.46 | Zolden | but white planet is ugly |
| 14:15.03 | Monkalizer | yees thats why i asked about the replacement of texture |
| 14:15.09 | Monkalizer | heh |
| 14:15.24 | Zolden | use select texture by id |
| 14:15.27 | Monkalizer | its supposed to be a moon planet, so some kind of craters would be nice |
| 14:16.02 | Zolden | apply a terrain texture |
| 14:16.04 | Ahli | there are planet models |
| 14:16.26 | Zolden | but you use shape, it has emissive material |
| 14:16.35 | Zolden | right, use planet models from game |
| 14:17.49 | Monkalizer | lets see if it works... |
| 14:18.01 | Zolden | Ahli: which attachment need to be fixed |
| 14:18.08 | Zolden | right weapon? |
| 14:18.10 | Ahli | I try to use Target |
| 14:18.14 | Dustin|Work | Someone needs to make an Angry Blizzards map, and it's like Angry birds, but you launch different SC2 units out of a siege tank and gotta use the new physics to blow shit up |
| 14:18.27 | Ahli | I've a default attack action |
| 14:18.29 | Dustin|Work | Ahli, get on it. |
| 14:18.34 | Dustin|Work | Stop slacking! |
| 14:19.02 | Ahli | I'm not slacking... |
| 14:19.17 | Dustin|Work | You havent made the map I just said yet |
| 14:19.22 | Dustin|Work | Ergo, you're slacking :D |
| 14:19.39 | Ahli | I'm not bounty creating maps one after another |
| 14:19.48 | Zolden | lol |
| 14:19.57 | Ahli | I'm creating maps that are never ever finished |
| 14:20.05 | Dustin|Work | That's how I am to :( |
| 14:20.40 | TwoDie | Zolden btw how do you get high poly mesh? duplicating the model and using modification to make on it more faces? |
| 14:21.47 | Ahli | marines got 1600 vertices? :o |
| 14:22.45 | Zolden | TwoDie: yeah, First Tasseliate, then Turbosmooth |
| 14:22.52 | Zolden | but be care, Tasseliate is tricky |
| 14:22.57 | Zolden | play with it |
| 14:23.09 | Dustin|Work | 3D modeling jargon is the most confusing jargon lol |
| 14:24.00 | Dustin|Work | Now, if 3d modeling was just like the hammer editor for hl2, then I'd be a pro modeler, but sadly it's not :( |
| 14:24.32 | Zolden | Ahli, what texture path do you use? |
| 14:24.54 | Zolden | root i guess |
| 14:25.05 | Saeris | lol dustin.... I started out using Hammer before I got into 3D |
| 14:25.23 | Saeris | I'll never turn back now, cuz Hammer is soooo slow and clunky |
| 14:25.47 | Ashamed_ | ahhhh |
| 14:26.18 | Ahli | yes |
| 14:27.15 | Zolden | hmm |
| 14:27.32 | Zolden | Ahli: does the zombie have left arm? |
| 14:27.49 | Zolden | it hasn't now by some reasone |
| 14:27.57 | Zolden | stupid zombies, loosing limbs |
| 14:28.10 | Saeris | learn 3DS Max, it's really easi. check out all the tutorials by Ben and Chris Tate on CGTuts+, they are really good for learning the interface and workflow. This is the project I learned on: http://cg.tutsplus.com/tutorials/autodesk-3d-studio-max/3d_cg_vfx_3dsmax_photoshop_modeling_uvmapping_texturing_sentry_gun_team_fortress_valve/ |
| 14:28.24 | Ahli | no |
| 14:29.08 | Zolden | but he has bones for it |
| 14:29.34 | Ahli | I know... ask wow what they did to him |
| 14:29.39 | Saeris | anyways, it's 6:30am here, gonna call it a night. |
| 14:29.51 | Zolden | What animation increases attachment? |
| 14:30.03 | zenxu | whoa |
| 14:30.05 | Ahli | other model |
| 14:30.09 | zenxu | been playing pokemon battles online for 3h |
| 14:30.09 | Ahli | but I don't know which one |
| 14:30.10 | zenxu | :D |
| 14:30.13 | Ahli | which animation |
| 14:32.15 | Ahli | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4479839/magmagiant.m3 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4479839/LORDANTHRICYST_01.tga https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4479839/LORDANTHRICYST_02.tga |
| 14:32.29 | Ahli | should be an attack animation |
| 14:32.48 | Ahli | or a stand variation |
| 14:33.09 | Ahli | I attach it overhead |
| 14:37.58 | TwoDie | Zolden well i imported the model to the game it looks kinda shitty but main problem is that when had animated the Wheels to spin in editor it resizes the wheels... |
| 14:39.04 | Monkalizer | the planet models seems to have some wierd offset |
| 14:39.16 | TwoDie | resizes and reverts the faces? |
| 14:39.25 | Monkalizer | they look great thous |
| 14:39.28 | Monkalizer | though |
| 14:40.31 | Monkalizer | somebody who knows how to measure offset?? :S |
| 14:42.27 | Zolden | TwoDie: i believe I had something like that, but don't remember how had I fixed it |
| 14:46.16 | TwoDie | Zolden http://snag.gy/merO8.jpg |
| 14:46.56 | Zolden | not so bad |
| 14:47.33 | Dustin|Work | lol default lighting looks like shiiiiit |
| 14:49.45 | TwoDie | Dustin|Work like blue shit on wheels :) |
| 14:49.45 | Ahli | ingame lightning makes things green |
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| 14:59.05 | TwoDie | Zolden how to set animation speed in the game? or in 3ds max to apply it in the game? |
| 14:59.26 | Zolden | model->animation speed |
| 14:59.35 | Zolden | or walk animation at actor |
| 14:59.58 | turtles | I really wish we had memory allocation |
| 15:00.19 | turtles | there are stubbs for it in the editor but it is removed :( |
| 15:00.36 | turtles | hopefully they put it back in HOTS or LOTV |
| 15:02.51 | Dustin|Work | doubt they will |
| 15:03.55 | turtles | I'm worried about reducing performance in low end machines though |
| 15:04.14 | turtles | having absurdly large arrays all over the place |
| 15:04.34 | turtles | They need to be that big though |
| 15:04.54 | Dustin|Work | The array size shouldn't matter to much, what are you doing with the arrays though |
| 15:05.12 | Dustin|Work | If you're sorting huge arrrays I could see that causing some performance issues |
| 15:05.59 | turtles | about 220 KB I need to store |
| 15:06.40 | Dustin|Work | You'll be fine |
| 15:06.54 | Zolden | Ahli: http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/33/787/zombiegreen.m3 |
| 15:07.11 | Zolden | I reattached the weapon right attachment |
| 15:07.24 | Zolden | maybe won't scale models anymore |
| 15:07.26 | Zolden | try |
| 15:08.43 | turtles | wait, actually its more like 330 KB (i forgot that some of the data is in reals not ints) |
| 15:08.51 | turtles | but hopefully thats not too much |
| 15:09.13 | Dustin|Work | Nah, what data doe these arrays store and what do you do with the data |
| 15:09.50 | turtles | save points for a regular melee game |
| 15:09.56 | turtles | you know how replays are saved? |
| 15:10.01 | turtles | storing actions? |
| 15:10.08 | Dustin|Work | I figured that's what they did |
| 15:10.28 | turtles | well I am saving game states and letting players save/load during a game |
| 15:10.47 | Dustin|Work | Can't they do that with the current sc2 save system? |
| 15:10.58 | turtles | during a multiplayer game that is (they can already save in single player) |
| 15:11.08 | Zolden | Ahli, magma guy doesn't have overhead attachment |
| 15:11.12 | Zolden | do you see it in game? |
| 15:11.17 | Dustin|Work | Oh shit we can't save mp maps anymore? |
| 15:11.21 | Dustin|Work | I havent even tried |
| 15:11.27 | turtles | see what in game? |
| 15:11.49 | Zolden | turtles, a talk to Ahli |
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| 15:12.25 | Ahli | I see it, yes :S |
| 15:13.02 | Zolden | ok, i'll create a new one |
| 15:13.11 | Zolden | do you want it to be attached to head? |
| 15:14.09 | Ahli | over head like other units. For reference, I use him with a scale of 0.2 ingame |
| 15:14.11 | Zolden | or just soar |
| 15:14.39 | Zolden | ok, i'll just put it overhead without attaching to head |
| 15:15.58 | Ahli | yes, that's fine |
| 15:17.53 | Zolden | what about zombie? tested it? |
| 15:18.05 | Ahli | I'm testing |
| 15:18.20 | Monkalizer | http://snag.gy/dg9w3.jpg |
| 15:18.27 | Monkalizer | thx guys! |
| 15:18.48 | Zolden | ok, magma guy: http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/33/788/magmagiant.m3 |
| 15:18.50 | Monkalizer | the units are still wobbling around when they are trying to move and attack/heal units |
| 15:19.05 | Monkalizer | but it looks decent, and ok for a mission in the campaign ^^ |
| 15:20.27 | Ahli | no, doesn't work :S |
| 15:20.42 | Ahli | the blood is still coming from origin |
| 15:21.15 | Blizz-Deletarius | morning |
| 15:21.59 | turtles | Hello |
| 15:22.19 | Zolden | ahli, for zombie i fixed right weapon |
| 15:22.36 | Monkalizer | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/hercmerc-project/files/15-spaceships/ |
| 15:22.43 | Zolden | where do you want blood to come from? |
| 15:22.45 | Monkalizer | if someone wants to fly spaceships |
| 15:22.52 | Monkalizer | morning dele |
| 15:22.58 | Ahli | I don't use zombie's right weapon :S |
| 15:23.21 | Ahli | but thanks anyway, now I know that I could give him a weapon (for unique zombie or something) |
| 15:23.24 | Zolden | ok, where do you want me to put orogin attachment? |
| 15:23.43 | Ahli | I want you to check the "Target" attachment point... |
| 15:23.46 | Zolden | Ahli, it has weapon right, and it also has weapon left :)) |
| 15:23.57 | Zolden | alright |
| 15:23.59 | Zolden | sec |
| 15:24.39 | Ahli | because it's not used/working... my blood should use Target (default value for damage impact effects), but it's created at origin for some reason... it's the only model that bleeds from its feet |
| 15:26.26 | Blizz-Deletarius | morning monk |
| 15:29.22 | Zolden | monking morn |
| 15:29.52 | Zolden | Ahli http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/33/789/zombiegreen.m3 |
| 15:29.56 | Zolden | fixed target |
| 15:30.33 | Zolden | now tell me if magma guy fixed |
| 15:30.51 | Zolden | and aren't his alpha related meshes ruined |
| 15:32.47 | Ahli | magma's attachment point doesn't work :S it's using the center of the model now |
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| 15:35.46 | Zolden | can you just set overhead attachment in actor? |
| 15:36.22 | Ahli | I'm using the overhead site operation |
| 15:36.58 | Zolden | open model in the viewer and check where overhead attachment is located |
| 15:37.05 | Ahli | http://pastebin.com/TtsAhcQ5 that's the the actor |
| 15:37.20 | Ahli | overhead is below the head attachment point |
| 15:37.25 | Ahli | basically they would need to be swapped |
| 15:38.47 | Ahli | the attachment points got a differetn size in the cutscene editor with a few animations |
| 15:38.49 | Zolden | oh, i see, overhead save in center of model, dunno why |
| 15:39.37 | Ahli | we need startools :D |
| 15:40.53 | Zolden | no, it's jsut wow models are the mess |
| 15:40.59 | Zolden | m3 editor works perfect |
| 15:41.07 | Ahli | :S |
| 15:41.37 | Zolden | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/33/790/magmagiant.m3 |
| 15:41.45 | Zolden | here overhead is raised i believe |
| 15:42.39 | Ahli | testing zombie now |
| 15:44.05 | Ahli | yay |
| 15:44.07 | Ahli | works |
| 15:44.40 | Ahli | how much bigger did you scale the zombie? |
| 15:44.43 | Zolden | alright |
| 15:44.55 | Zolden | i didn't scale anything :) |
| 15:45.20 | Zolden | maybe something unexpected happened, dunno |
| 15:47.28 | Ahli | http://snag.gy/sUue5.jpg doesn't look like it has human size |
| 15:48.37 | Ahli | but it's easy to fix in the editor |
| 15:48.52 | Ahli | just model min and max size in its unit model and death model |
| 15:49.43 | Zolden | and probably the blood model, or uncheck its inherit scale flag |
| 15:55.06 | Zolden | what about magma guy? |
| 15:55.16 | Ahli | works |
| 15:57.53 | Ahli | thanks :D |
| 15:57.57 | Zolden | then put other models which require fixes to rar and send |
| 16:17.34 | Ahli | http://snag.gy/Lc2US.jpg hmm, I need to make a bridge |
| 16:22.20 | Dustin|Work | random generated lava squares? |
| 16:23.53 | Ahli | yes |
| 16:24.08 | Ahli | they form rivers |
| 16:24.45 | Ahli | but terrain manipulation doesn't work in the way I would like it to work :D |
| 16:26.28 | Dustin|Work | Yeah I messed around with trying to comeup with some cool random generated terrain, but the terrain actors wouldn't coop |
| 16:26.47 | Ahli | for example here it lowers areas that shouldn't be lowered... http://snag.gy/n1v2B.jpg |
| 16:27.14 | Dustin|Work | ahh |
| 16:27.22 | Ahli | the numbers are the river tiles I create. they have a 1x1 footprint that lowers the terrain |
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| 16:31.44 | Monkalizer | lots of ducks here - yes mean you duckies and quackquackquack |
| 16:32.47 | duckies | quackidy quack? what kind of quackery is this? :() |
| 16:33.48 | Monkalizer | Blizz-Deletarius: is there some way to bypass the 20 maps limit`? |
| 16:35.04 | Ahli | second account^^ |
| 16:35.44 | Monkalizer | hm, can you set mod dependencies across player accounts? |
| 16:35.59 | Monkalizer | bankfiles are impossible, but modfiles would be enough |
| 16:36.28 | Ahli | I think a filesize of 20 is to low... I'm already at 13 now |
| 16:36.28 | Ahli | *filecount limit |
| 16:36.56 | Ahli | what would happen, if I had as many projects as bounty? :S |
| 16:37.09 | Monkalizer | well, the amount of maps you have is usually around 10-15 at most. but im starting to get a lot of mods, and each one takes up one slot |
| 16:37.39 | Monkalizer | I could pack them together, but not all maps needs all mods so... |
| 16:38.01 | Ahli | hmm, I could delete my asset loader... the preloading has been fixed |
| 16:38.14 | Ahli | and there is a better map published for that |
| 16:38.19 | Dustin|Work | You should be able to upload a big amount of mods as private for use in your own projects |
| 16:38.29 | Dustin|Work | That'd be nice |
| 16:38.33 | Blizz-Deletarius | 20 maps limit? |
| 16:38.36 | Blizz-Deletarius | what do you mean? |
| 16:38.50 | Dustin|Work | He's talking about upload map count to bnet |
| 16:39.00 | Ahli | is that limit in effect or is that just a random value set in the editor UI? |
| 16:39.39 | Blizz-Deletarius | gotcha |
| 16:39.43 | Blizz-Deletarius | no, nothing being done about that |
| 16:41.10 | Monkalizer | there is a glitch in the system that enables you to have as many mods as you have maps - but its fragile. If you upload a map with a mod, and then overwrite that mod with a new one, the old mod will still remain |
| 16:41.54 | Ahli | well, it's not a glitch... it ensures that every map can always be played properly.. Blizzard doesn't delete... |
| 16:42.13 | Blizz-Deletarius | I guess I would say don't abuse "glitches" then? ;) |
| 16:42.17 | Monkalizer | yeah, but its then possible to have 20maps+19mods |
| 16:42.36 | Monkalizer | but its a really ugly work-around ^^ |
| 16:43.01 | Monkalizer | i would not use it, a simple overwrite somewhere too many and poff- work vaporized |
| 16:43.39 | Blizz-Deletarius | also - back up your stuff |
| 16:43.40 | Blizz-Deletarius | always |
| 16:43.41 | Ahli | I guess we might be able to add more mods via xml editing |
| 16:44.14 | Blizz-Deletarius | is this really a problem? |
| 16:44.26 | Blizz-Deletarius | like I haven't heard any other people bring it up |
| 16:44.29 | Blizz-Deletarius | which is why I'm asking |
| 16:44.53 | Ahli | not yet, but it might become one someday... it just doesn't match the space limit we have |
| 16:46.31 | Monkalizer | well, my project is in the borderlands of what the battlenet is built for, its basically a custom campaign with many maps and some mods (core + map specific) I use this system where i have nuthin but map specific stuff in the map itself, and the rest in mods. |
| 16:46.41 | Ahli | I could barely host the edited melee maps in winter theme for a tournament in a few hours.. we altered 7 maps... if I would publish all of them, I would end up having 2 slots remaining |
| 16:47.14 | Monkalizer | so if i want to have order in my mods/for ease of updating, i would prefer to have each component in its own mod |
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| 16:49.35 | Monkalizer | but,its nothing game-breaking, just a problem less to "work-around" |
| 16:50.08 | Monkalizer | oh! i have a feature request! |
| 16:50.24 | Monkalizer | a browse button for test maps! in the preferences dialogue |
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| 16:59.56 | mille25 | hi |
| 17:00.17 | Ahli | https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=aJjGN5Ve25I#t=3340s hmm, what should I use for a black knight model? |
| 17:01.24 | Monkalizer | ho |
| 17:02.13 | Monkalizer | zealot |
| 17:02.24 | Monkalizer | slightly larger one |
| 17:02.34 | Monkalizer | with something evil and dark attached to his head |
| 17:02.41 | Monkalizer | like... a hat |
| 17:02.42 | Ahli | works for death animation, but he has 2 blades and not a sword + shield |
| 17:03.10 | Monkalizer | isnt there some warcraft model you could use? |
| 17:03.39 | Ahli | I could try to attach stuff on a human model |
| 17:03.47 | Monkalizer | hm wait, i think somebody made the medics shields as an item somewhere, perhaps you could attach the shield as a form of weapon model |
| 17:07.20 | Ahli | attachments that I add in wowmodelviewer aren't working, right? |
| 17:10.14 | Monkalizer | hm no idea, just throwing ideas at you ^^ |
| 17:11.18 | Blizz-Deletarius | oh wow |
| 17:11.20 | Blizz-Deletarius | that's funny |
| 17:12.00 | Blizz-Deletarius | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7200033442#6 I *guess* Fockewulf wasn't banned for a year from the forums and in-game afterall |
| 17:14.04 | Monkalizer | sigh |
| 17:15.04 | mille25 | of course its a rant :D |
| 17:15.32 | Helral | meows |
| 17:15.33 | Blizz-Deletarius | can't the guy just be happy for a fellow map-maker? |
| 17:15.40 | Blizz-Deletarius | and leave it at that? |
| 17:15.58 | Helral | Blizz-Deletarius: he can't .... thought that was obvious.... |
| 17:16.09 | Blizz-Deletarius | it was a rhetorical question ;) |
| 17:16.27 | Helral | I know, but I'm a cat so I answer those.... always when I see them at least. |
| 17:16.36 | turtles | I guess he was banned and then unbanned? or banned for a month (not a year)? |
| 17:16.38 | Helral | normal questions I most likely won't answer :p |
| 17:16.46 | Monkalizer | but now he has been silent for a long while, all that anger building up |
| 17:16.52 | Blizz-Deletarius | he wasn't banned for a month, or for a year |
| 17:16.57 | turtles | The whole banning thing couldn't entirely have been a ruse surely?! lol |
| 17:17.14 | turtles | hahahaha wow |
| 17:17.16 | Blizz-Deletarius | a year is a weirdly arbitrary timeframe to ban someone |
| 17:17.17 | mille25 | wait he wasnt banned at all? |
| 17:17.24 | Helral | for 1 minute :p |
| 17:17.26 | Blizz-Deletarius | don't you think? |
| 17:17.40 | mille25 | what the... |
| 17:18.00 | Blizz-Deletarius | no, he was temp-banned |
| 17:18.07 | Helral | for how many minutes? :p |
| 17:18.11 | Blizz-Deletarius | more or less probation/time out to think about what he's done |
| 17:18.19 | Blizz-Deletarius | THAT I can't give out |
| 17:18.28 | Helral | ow can you give out how many seconds? |
| 17:18.32 | Helral | :p |
| 17:18.50 | Blizz-Deletarius | nope, sorry |
| 17:18.54 | Helral | hehehe |
| 17:18.58 | A1win | Helral, someone smart might do some complex math and figure out the minutes from that :| |
| 17:19.17 | Helral | it isn't complex math.... |
| 17:19.29 | Helral | ow wait maybe for you it is.... *couldn't resist, sry* |
| 17:19.30 | Ahli | is he still doing things for sc2? |
| 17:19.34 | Blizz-Deletarius | :whoosh: |
| 17:19.47 | Blizz-Deletarius | besides being a general nuisance to the community? |
| 17:19.50 | Blizz-Deletarius | ;) |
| 17:20.01 | A1win | it requires dividing with a number greater than I have fingers |
| 17:20.02 | duckies | guys, Is something like this possible? I want a unit that is targetable by specific ability only, meaning that it can't be followed if any other unit uses "move" on that unit.. |
| 17:20.12 | Helral | watches Blizz-Deletarius shoot, and score. the crowd goes wild. |
| 17:20.19 | Ahli | well, he did cool things... like he was the first one I saw building complex units with actors attached to each other |
| 17:20.19 | Blizz-Deletarius | thank you, thank you |
| 17:20.41 | TheSkunk__ | I'm pretty sure he stopped working with the SC2 editor entirely |
| 17:20.46 | Helral | back in the days when he was productive.... |
| 17:21.27 | Ahli | what could be the reason that my keyboard input starts to lag from time to time? it's wireless... but shutting down my keyboard and enabling it again fixes the problem |
| 17:21.44 | Helral | is it overheating? |
| 17:21.51 | turtles | Going to bed. Just wanted to say that I've hit the 20 maps limit before with a mod. Version of each ladder map and GSL maps |
| 17:21.53 | Ahli | no |
| 17:22.12 | mille25 | a keyboard can overheat? :D |
| 17:22.13 | Helral | hmmm |
| 17:22.14 | turtles | but have had offers from others to upload on my behalf if I ever have need of more room |
| 17:22.39 | turtles | so if you run out of space there are others willing to help out |
| 17:22.58 | turtles | ok, night one, night all and night anyone else I missed out |
| 17:23.11 | Helral | meows |
| 17:24.13 | Ahli | http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Keyboards-and-Keyboard-Mice/K800-lag-during-game/td-p/568350 hmm, seems like a problem with that keyboard and some games exists longer already |
| 17:24.22 | Helral | lol |
| 17:24.38 | Helral | get a better keyboard :) |
| 17:25.11 | Helral | my build-in keyboard is not displaying any delays so far *grin* :p |
| 17:25.19 | Helral | ok I'm tired and not being helpful I know :) |
| 17:25.41 | mille25 | i stopped using wireless peripherals a long time ago. |
| 17:26.06 | Helral | I sometimes play around with a wireless mouse. |
| 17:26.09 | Helral | meows innocently |
| 17:26.32 | Ahli | I had no problems with this keyboard for like a year |
| 17:26.45 | Helral | did you update the drivers recently? |
| 17:27.06 | Helral | also check windows update in case that did the driver update. |
| 17:27.16 | Ahli | before I wasn't using their drivers... I installed the driver program yesterday, but that didn't solve the issue |
| 17:28.56 | Helral | was wondering if a driver update caused the issue. |
| 17:29.52 | Ahli | no, can't :D I had the problem on win7, too. |
| 17:30.03 | Helral | what you using win8 now? |
| 17:30.27 | Blizz-Deletarius | win8 interests me |
| 17:30.35 | Blizz-Deletarius | from a UX perspective |
| 17:30.40 | Blizz-Deletarius | that's about it though |
| 17:35.22 | Monkalizer | does sc run on windows tablets? |
| 17:38.28 | Helral | hmmm window 8 interests you? (notice that I did not write windows*) |
| 17:39.54 | Blizz-Deletarius | no idea monkalizer |
| 17:40.02 | Blizz-Deletarius | helral, from a user experience perspective |
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| 17:42.00 | Helral | hehehe the experience that I have read in reviews so far: people who are used to win7 or older, hate it because it doesn't do what it normally did. |
| 17:42.19 | Dogmai | like timeline |
| 17:42.21 | Helral | they cannot find the actions that they could find in win7 or older etc. |
| 17:42.34 | Dogmai | I deleted everything from my facebook except for a few photos when timeline came along |
| 17:42.36 | Dogmai | I hate it |
| 17:42.37 | Helral | it's just like when windows introduced the ribbon in office. |
| 17:43.01 | Helral | 100's of people couldn't find options that were available in office xp. |
| 17:44.04 | Ahli | change is terrible ^^ but I don't know how I am supposed to open multiple folders now :( before I used to start->computer to open a new instance of computer |
| 17:44.06 | Helral | If they want to be user friendly then they have to support multiple GUI overlays for the system. But so far windows hasn't discovered that. |
| 17:44.28 | Helral | windows-key + E, new explorer window in win7 |
| 17:44.37 | Helral | no idea if it works in win8 cause I didn't buy it. |
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| 17:44.59 | Helral | I'm sticking with win7 and perhaps I'll change to linux orso with the next PC. |
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| 17:48.34 | Dustin|Work | Helral, |
| 17:48.45 | Dustin|Work | Windows 7 + VirtualBox Ubuntu |
| 17:49.04 | Dustin|Work | It's what im running, tis good shit |
| 17:55.34 | Ahli | maybe razer's driver is interfering... brb need to restart for that update |
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| 17:58.49 | Monkalizer | hm, the zerg upgrade icons are all so similar... its hard to tell whats hwat... they all contain some claws and bone structure, but with different color... |
| 17:59.39 | Monkalizer | an interesting thing when it comes to digging around in the editor is that the names of the units/upgrades have changed sometimes. |
| 18:01.35 | Monkalizer | you people who have the beta: will the personal profile contain links to the maps you have uploaded? would be cool to see,,, |
| 18:02.02 | Monkalizer | if a dude/dudette is skilled and made a map you liked, perhaps there would be more maps that this person have done |
| 18:02.46 | Dustin|Work | ^ |
| 18:02.51 | Dustin|Work | Map Maker Profiles |
| 18:02.53 | Dustin|Work | Would be sick |
| 18:03.13 | Monkalizer | yeah or just a tab in the interface somewhere |
| 18:03.21 | Dustin|Work | Shows all public maps they have uploaded, show stats on map plays and etc |
| 18:03.22 | Monkalizer | i have probably whined about this before in the eu forum |
| 18:03.39 | Dustin|Work | We really need a private stat page for mappers |
| 18:03.41 | Monkalizer | yeah, stats would be very interesting to see! |
| 18:03.51 | Dustin|Work | To show their trending plays per week/day/month, etc |
| 18:04.11 | Monkalizer | just an int counter, that displays how many people have played it during the past week or so |
| 18:04.17 | Dustin|Work | I think it would help alot of mappers figure out what's going on with their map amidst this huge sea of other maps |
| 18:04.25 | Monkalizer | mhm |
| 18:04.31 | Dustin|Work | Yeah I mean they probably track that data anyway |
| 18:04.38 | Dustin|Work | For use with Upand coming and popularity |
| 18:04.42 | Monkalizer | probably |
| 18:04.45 | Dustin|Work | So it should just be an interface change |
| 18:05.27 | Monkalizer | yeah, since they are already reworking the ui for hots, they should work this into it |
| 18:05.36 | Dustin|Work | Blizz-Deletarius |
| 18:05.44 | Monkalizer | yuhy |
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| 18:06.06 | Dustin|Work | wb Ahli |
| 18:06.24 | Ahli | yay |
| 18:06.30 | Ahli | afk, dinner |
| 18:07.07 | Zolden | Ahli |
| 18:07.14 | Zolden | http://snag.gy/VR5E9.jpg |
| 18:07.24 | Zolden | r u ok about this look? |
| 18:07.47 | Monkalizer | hehe it feels so good to find a function and go: wow blizzard did a really good job implementing this thing, and then realize you made that function yourself ^^ |
| 18:08.19 | Zolden | Monkalizer: waht function? |
| 18:08.28 | Ahli | I would need to see it ingame in my map (because of lighting) |
| 18:08.49 | Zolden | ok, i'll give you the archinve in a few minutes |
| 18:08.51 | Monkalizer | well, just general button/ui stuff |
| 18:09.26 | Monkalizer | team group stuff |
| 18:14.27 | Dustin|Work | lol |
| 18:15.31 | Monkalizer | what is the default way to describe damage upgrades. do you say +1 attack or +1 damage? |
| 18:15.38 | Monkalizer | or +1 weapons |
| 18:15.53 | TwoDie | YEAH FINALLY AFTER 4 HOURS FIXED FREACKING WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLSSSSSSSSS |
| 18:16.04 | Monkalizer | hehe |
| 18:16.07 | TwoDie | http://snag.gy/Qyy1M.jpg BOTTOM fixed texture |
| 18:16.12 | TwoDie | faces of the model |
| 18:18.19 | Dustin|Work | +1 damage |
| 18:19.20 | Zolden | good, but wheels could be smoother |
| 18:19.38 | Zolden | you need not just clear all, but smooth some faces too |
| 18:19.55 | Zolden | like wheel foot |
| 18:24.42 | Blizz-Deletarius | hi dustin|work |
| 18:24.46 | Blizz-Deletarius | what's up? |
| 18:25.40 | Monkalizer | we want a tab on our profiles with the maps we have uploaded |
| 18:25.49 | Blizz-Deletarius | post about it :) |
| 18:25.52 | TwoDie | Zolden to give wheel more faces? |
| 18:26.10 | Ahli | +1 monk |
| 18:26.12 | Monkalizer | and some of the stats that you are collecting for the ranklist of maps |
| 18:26.31 | Monkalizer | hm, i think i might have done it already |
| 18:26.34 | Zolden | no, jsut select the outer circle of faces and press that smooth button at modify tab |
| 18:26.34 | Dustin|Work | Dele |
| 18:26.37 | Monkalizer | does not hurt to whine.... i think |
| 18:26.43 | Zolden | next at the clear all one |
| 18:27.10 | Dustin|Work | Have you heard anything about them adding in Map Stats for Mappers, so they can see like the plays per day/week/month etc? |
| 18:27.16 | Zolden | guys, how to mute the motherfucking sound this chat sound when i'm highlighted |
| 18:27.18 | Blizz-Deletarius | I haven't |
| 18:27.21 | Zolden | I HATE SOUNDS! |
| 18:27.28 | Dustin|Work | ZOLDEN |
| 18:27.29 | Dustin|Work | ZOLDEN |
| 18:27.33 | Blizz-Deletarius | are you using webchat.freenode.net? |
| 18:27.35 | Zolden | BITCH |
| 18:27.37 | TwoDie | Zolden :/ |
| 18:27.38 | Dustin|Work | :D |
| 18:27.45 | Zolden | ;/ |
| 18:27.55 | Blizz-Deletarius | zolden, are you using webchat.freenode.net? |
| 18:28.00 | Zolden | yea |
| 18:28.08 | Zolden | with chrome |
| 18:28.14 | Blizz-Deletarius | see the little irc dropdown button next to status? |
| 18:28.36 | Zolden | oh, thanks |
| 18:28.37 | Blizz-Deletarius | click that, then options, then uncheck "beep when..." |
| 18:28.42 | Zolden | no highlight me anyone |
| 18:29.09 | Zolden | *now highlight me anyone |
| 18:29.13 | Dustin|Work | Zolden, |
| 18:29.21 | Blizz-Deletarius | zolden |
| 18:29.24 | Zolden | Zolden |
| 18:29.24 | Blizz-Deletarius | zolden |
| 18:29.27 | Zolden | yeah |
| 18:29.27 | Zolden | ty Blizz-Deletarius |
| 18:29.29 | Blizz-Deletarius | yep |
| 18:30.12 | Blizz-Deletarius | I have to keep it on because of how often I have the irc chat in the background |
| 18:31.02 | Zolden | well, i'd keep it too, but sound is annoying |
| 18:31.16 | Zolden | it could me "meow" or something nicely sounding |
| 18:34.17 | Monkalizer | you could attach your cat to the computer. every time your name pops up here or you do somehting wrong; your cat would get a electric shock - and meow |
| 18:36.23 | Zolden | once i made a robot this way |
| 18:36.50 | Zolden | pc speaker was source of commands |
| 18:37.02 | Monkalizer | lol |
| 18:37.06 | Zolden | it has to abilities: to move and to not move |
| 18:37.10 | Zolden | *had |
| 18:37.39 | Zolden | was made of lego, motor and 1 transistor |
| 18:45.50 | Ahli | these simple beginner questions always throw one off... "what's the best way to always keep a single unit selected" :S |
| 18:46.06 | Dustin|Work | Periodic check |
| 18:46.07 | Ahli | don't they, lefix |
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| 18:46.29 | Dustin|Work | Sixen! |
| 18:46.34 | Sixen | hihi |
| 18:46.37 | Dustin|Work | Sup bud |
| 18:46.58 | Sixen | cramming for school haha |
| 18:47.04 | Dustin|Work | Sounds like fun :P |
| 18:47.06 | Sixen | last week of the semester, then finals |
| 18:47.08 | Sixen | :( |
| 18:47.15 | TwoDie | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V0R8Qpjl8Q&feature=g-all |
| 18:47.18 | Sixen | My last fall semester ever though, i'm pumped |
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| 18:47.22 | Sixen | :D |
| 18:47.37 | Dustin|Work | Very nice :D |
| 18:47.41 | Ahli | bachelor or masters degree? |
| 18:47.43 | Dustin|Work | What are you Majoring in |
| 18:47.55 | Sixen | Bachelor's basically in IT |
| 18:48.11 | Sixen | Masters I can do all online in 1 year, but they require 2 years of full time work experience first ;/ |
| 18:48.58 | Dustin|Work | ahhh, sweet, IT has it's perks |
| 18:49.14 | Dustin|Work | That's my field, IT / Web Development |
| 18:49.38 | Sixen | Mmm, I started in CS, but I switched to IT to get some business experience |
| 18:50.22 | Dustin|Work | Good Call, everywhere always needs good IT guys |
| 18:51.10 | Sixen | ^_^ |
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| 18:53.23 | Taintedwisp | Hey everyone, whats up |
| 18:53.42 | Taintedwisp | Yo sixen you there? |
| 18:53.54 | Monkalizer | Blizz-Deletarius: have you heard anything about glitchy fonts? |
| 18:54.05 | Sixen | yes tainted |
| 18:54.06 | Monkalizer | some letters are nudged up a little |
| 18:54.27 | Monkalizer | r and t as an example |
| 18:54.46 | Monkalizer | makes it look like word-art |
| 18:54.57 | Monkalizer | (thats not a compliement) |
| 18:55.14 | Taintedwisp | there i posted it at the top |
| 18:58.10 | Ahli | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/artist-tavern/46033-a-solution-for-simulating-soft-materials-like-cloth/#p3 sick :D |
| 19:00.54 | Zolden | yeah, these chinese do amazing stuff |
| 19:01.13 | Taintedwisp | thats because the asians has to soul |
| 19:01.16 | Taintedwisp | just ask south park :P |
| 19:01.45 | Zolden | they only meant japans |
| 19:02.07 | Taintedwisp | The chinese can do great things, I just wonder why they all wanna do anime :P I'm pretty sure they could be used elsewhere for much cooler things haha. |
| 19:03.55 | Taintedwisp | http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/th_Green_Animated_war_1_3.gif http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/th_Green_Animated_war_2_3.gif http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/th_Green_Animated_war_3_3.gif |
| 19:04.02 | Taintedwisp | i still like my Forum tags :P |
| 19:04.30 | Taintedwisp | and if people request more warnings i can tell them i dont have anymore tags :P |
| 19:04.35 | Zolden | there is nothing cooler than anime |
| 19:04.47 | Taintedwisp | what about godzilla? |
| 19:04.47 | Zolden | except the soviet anime: http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/ibigdan/8161099/5574242/5574242_original.jpg |
| 19:04.48 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 19:05.12 | Taintedwisp | Zolden, how wrong you are... |
| 19:05.17 | Taintedwisp | What about AMERICAN ANIME!!! |
| 19:05.21 | Taintedwisp | i mean SICK AMERICAN ANIME |
| 19:05.22 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpl0UDKY-vw |
| 19:05.24 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 19:07.04 | Zolden | lol |
| 19:07.19 | Zolden | it's sick, but not anime, anime can't exist without boob keepers |
| 19:07.22 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:07.31 | Taintedwisp | but he had a tiny chainsaw |
| 19:11.54 | Taintedwisp | http://www.maximumpc.com/dreammachine/ i want... |
| 19:13.33 | Taintedwisp | i bet i could run Sc2 on medium :P haha, jk |
| 19:13.50 | Ahli | the question is with how many frames |
| 19:14.01 | Taintedwisp | 250 :P |
| 19:14.13 | Ahli | the better question is: Will it blend? |
| 19:14.24 | Taintedwisp | as good as my 1995 packard bell |
| 19:14.25 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 19:14.33 | Taintedwisp | it had DoS |
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| 19:15.34 | Taintedwisp | A damn hooker is here!!! |
| 19:15.40 | Taintedwisp | WHO RE!!! |
| 19:15.43 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 19:16.37 | Ahli | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-szN69OwKrw |
| 19:17.34 | TwoDie | http://snag.gy/YHbvI.jpg |
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| 19:18.03 | Taintedwisp | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7321162151 |
| 19:18.27 | Ahli | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-szN69OwKrw halo is better in a blender |
| 19:18.35 | Ahli | better graphics I believe :D |
| 19:19.21 | Taintedwisp | I'mglad someone did that |
| 19:19.32 | Taintedwisp | CoD sucks... |
| 19:20.16 | TwoDie | Ahli same vid link you dropped there |
| 19:20.40 | Taintedwisp | hah |
| 19:20.40 | Zolden | TwoDie: still something wrong with lights |
| 19:20.45 | Zolden | it doen't look like a wood |
| 19:20.47 | Ahli | oh, I didn't link halo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahtZayhxb5U |
| 19:20.54 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9R1ODvReQE |
| 19:21.09 | TwoDie | Zolden at least it looks like candy |
| 19:21.33 | Zolden | acid candie |
| 19:21.47 | Taintedwisp | NOT THE HALO HEADSET |
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| 19:28.44 | Saeris | bleh... can't get back to sleep cuz my mom's dog won't shut up >.< |
| 19:28.44 | TwoDie | hit him in da bolls |
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| 19:28.49 | Saeris | she lacks the requirements for me to do that. either way, I should try and stop staying up until 7am every night |
| 19:29.26 | TwoDie | Ohhh those bitches always lacks strong Male friends to be pleasured by :/ |
| 19:29.46 | Saeris | hey blizz-deletarius you around? |
| 19:31.07 | Taintedwisp | Kinda wanted a blendtec blender... |
| 19:31.08 | Taintedwisp | :P |
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| 19:33.18 | Taintedwisp | Yo Blizz-Deletarius, I had an idea for a cool Doodad thing :)))) When we combine multiple doodads it would be awesome if in that map we could save them as doodad and the map could remember them so we could place those doodads again, and rescale the new thing that was made :D. or tint it, and it would all count as 1 doodad that could be rotated too |
| 19:35.10 | Zolden | http://snag.gy/4UJ07.jpg |
| 19:35.15 | Zolden | another sc2-tized wow model |
| 19:36.10 | Saeris | specular looks pretty blown out |
| 19:36.36 | Zolden | why? |
| 19:36.41 | Blizz-Deletarius | hi |
| 19:36.43 | Blizz-Deletarius | I'm around |
| 19:37.13 | Saeris | yo, so I wasn't sure you saw the bug report thread I made last week: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7253855824 |
| 19:37.21 | Saeris | just wanted to bring it to your attention |
| 19:37.30 | Taintedwisp | zolden you have crabs :P |
| 19:37.41 | Taintedwisp | Hey Zolden could you make it team colored? |
| 19:37.43 | Zolden | Saeris: maybe make it orange? |
| 19:37.47 | Taintedwisp | Or enable it for team coloring? |
| 19:37.58 | Zolden | Yes, I can |
| 19:38.00 | Blizz-Deletarius | I'll shoot it over to our QA |
| 19:38.02 | TwoDie | Zolden http://snag.gy/uM9lf.jpg |
| 19:38.18 | Saeris | and zolden it's just that the highlights are just too big for that material, I don't think a crab's shell is that reflective |
| 19:38.20 | Taintedwisp | Imma start asking everyone who imports the WoW models if they can atleast Enable team coloring :P |
| 19:38.24 | Blizz-Deletarius | tainted - submit the thread on the forums and we'll look at it :) |
| 19:38.31 | Taintedwisp | hah okay |
| 19:38.36 | Zolden | Saeris: agree |
| 19:39.02 | Taintedwisp | Zolden I got sooo annoyed when i learned the critters from Sc2 Are not team colorable... and for absolutly no reason haha |
| 19:39.10 | Taintedwisp | I wanted to make all the critters Team color :P |
| 19:39.25 | Zolden | get 3ds max |
| 19:39.32 | Taintedwisp | My computer wont run it |
| 19:39.33 | Blizz-Deletarius | Thanks Saeris - I sent it out |
| 19:39.38 | Taintedwisp | Otherwise i would have gotten it over a year ago |
| 19:39.39 | Zolden | it takes 1 click to team color anything |
| 19:39.46 | Saeris | cool, thanks deletarius =) |
| 19:39.48 | Blizz-Deletarius | yeap |
| 19:39.53 | Taintedwisp | Alpha blend type? |
| 19:39.56 | Blizz-Deletarius | tainted, why doesn't your computer run it? |
| 19:40.03 | Taintedwisp | I barely run Sc2 on low :P |
| 19:40.06 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: if you can play sc2, you can run 3d max |
| 19:40.06 | Blizz-Deletarius | my 6 year old macbook pro could run it? |
| 19:40.15 | Taintedwisp | Really? |
| 19:40.17 | Blizz-Deletarius | yes |
| 19:40.22 | Taintedwisp | hmm i figured i wouldnt be able to run it |
| 19:40.25 | Blizz-Deletarius | you don't need the latest and greatest |
| 19:40.31 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: just do it, u'll see |
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| 19:40.40 | Blizz-Deletarius | hell, I preferred Maya 2009 over 2011 |
| 19:40.47 | Blizz-Deletarius | haven't tried '12 or '13 tho |
| 19:41.03 | Zolden | Taintedwisp:u need max 2010 to use with m3 exporter |
| 19:41.23 | Saeris | yea, and the .m3 plugins oinly work with max 2011, so you don't need the latest version of max either |
| 19:42.53 | Taintedwisp | Is there an exporter for blender? I cant find a good copy of 3ds max on TPB :P |
| 19:45.03 | Saeris | blender is a lot harder to use/learn IMO |
| 19:45.10 | Saeris | interface isn't very user friendly |
| 19:45.32 | Taintedwisp | Hey, is it bad when a torrent site does better journalism then CNN, Fox or Yahoo? |
| 19:45.33 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 19:45.48 | Taintedwisp | soooo 3ds max 2011 it is :P |
| 19:46.30 | Zolden | http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/5280081/Autodesk_3DS_Max_2010_32bit_and_64bit |
| 19:46.35 | Zolden | I use 2010 |
| 19:47.01 | Zolden | and it works with the plugin |
| 19:47.02 | Saeris | plugins should work with 2010 too, yea |
| 19:47.06 | Monkalizer | TwoDie: That looks really nice!!! |
| 19:47.09 | Monkalizer | impressive |
| 19:47.22 | Saeris | they changed something in 2012/2013 that breaks the older scripts |
| 19:47.25 | TwoDie | Monkalizer :O |
| 19:48.55 | Zolden | TwoDie: try to increase specularity and decreas hdr specular multiplier |
| 19:49.03 | Zolden | may look better |
| 19:49.24 | G0A | hmm what does actually determine in which radius does a unit engage an enemy? |
| 19:49.33 | TwoDie | Btw anyone know what tool could help in GIMP or PS to detect image edge and would fill with White color like with SC2 models framewires |
| 19:49.47 | TwoDie | *wireframes |
| 19:49.59 | Ahli | zolden, I think the corner wall pieces need to be halved in the wall length. I can't scale it because it makes thinner walls... http://snag.gy/VAyI8.jpg but the textures look good |
| 19:50.58 | Ahli | T wall, too |
| 19:51.10 | Taintedwisp | Zolden imma learn modellin and be better then you!!!, my Glass lookin cube will be green.. and have fruit inside of it... and be made of jellO!!!! |
| 19:51.24 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 19:51.50 | Zolden | :)) |
| 19:51.58 | Zolden | Ahli, ok i'll half them |
| 19:52.01 | duckies | g0a, weapons scan range? |
| 19:52.07 | Zolden | all 3 walls of t wall to reduce? |
| 19:52.42 | Zolden | or just 2 "vertical"? |
| 19:53.07 | Taintedwisp | Hey zolden its possible to make a jello cube right? because if it is.. I has an idea!!! for evofrenzy |
| 19:53.08 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 19:53.14 | Ahli | I think the one that has nothing on its opposite side is fine as it is now |
| 19:53.43 | Ahli | no, it's too long, too |
| 19:53.50 | Zolden | to make it look like jelly, u'll need to add some noise to the normal map i guess |
| 19:53.51 | Ahli | but it flickers less :D |
| 19:53.54 | Taintedwisp | An event.... Jello will surround all the bases of the players, and the players must kill it so their base can attack again :P |
| 19:54.20 | Taintedwisp | JELLO EVENT!!! |
| 19:54.38 | Taintedwisp | And now I must change my username... |
| 19:54.59 | InvincibleSlinky | Slinky Slinky Oh what a wonderful toy... |
| 19:55.31 | InvincibleSlinky | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=711bZ_pLusQ Brings a tear to my eye |
| 19:55.34 | Ahli | http://snag.gy/y8cBT.jpg zolden, above char you can see that it goes into the normal straight wall between the T walls |
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| 19:58.22 | Zolden | Ahli: don't see anything special, but i'll half em |
| 19:58.51 | Saeris | some examples of the results I've gotten making extra texture maps: http://i.imgur.com/jVLbP.png http://i.imgur.com/KRaCj.jpg |
| 19:58.58 | Ahli | look at the upper edge on the wall directly north of the char |
| 19:59.23 | InvincibleSlinky | YOU TEAM COLOR THOSE GOATS!!!!! |
| 19:59.24 | InvincibleSlinky | :P |
| 19:59.36 | Saeris | got a seam error on the goat's normal map though |
| 20:00.06 | Zolden | Saeris: what maps do you mean? |
| 20:00.33 | Saeris | generated a specular, normal and AO map from the base diffuse from WoW |
| 20:00.51 | Saeris | such as in this image: http://i.imgur.com/Mxomx.jpg |
| 20:00.59 | Zolden | what's AO? |
| 20:01.08 | Saeris | ambient occlusion |
| 20:01.14 | Saeris | shadow map basically |
| 20:01.29 | Zolden | you're using that nDo or what's its name |
| 20:01.36 | Saeris | yea |
| 20:02.17 | Zolden | does goat has 512x512 texture? |
| 20:02.36 | Saeris | think so |
| 20:02.52 | Saeris | i might have down-rezed it for SC2, but i think this one has the original textures |
| 20:02.53 | Zolden | and is it AO map makes the different between left and right examples? |
| 20:03.21 | Ahli | Blizz-Deletarius: renaming a file in import module does not always rename the correct file |
| 20:03.25 | Monkalizer | latest HercMerc UI |
| 20:03.27 | Monkalizer | http://snag.gy/r4YcK.jpg |
| 20:03.28 | Zolden | wtf is this ambient occlusion? never used it |
| 20:03.29 | Saeris | naw, actually in the comparison image, that's what the model looks like unlit |
| 20:04.00 | Ahli | but I don't know if that is fixed in hots editor |
| 20:04.04 | Ahli | didn't test |
| 20:04.26 | Saeris | http://wiki.polycount.com/AmbientOcclusionMap |
| 20:05.11 | Zolden | so, nDo makes just everything faster, right? |
| 20:05.21 | Zolden | or it has some tools to make stuff prettier? |
| 20:05.52 | Saeris | typically you would bake out an AO map from a high poly model and use that as a basis for texture creation, because the grayscale shadows are made for you. |
| 20:06.11 | Saeris | but nDo can make an AO map from a normal map, which it's meant to do in the first place |
| 20:07.13 | TwoDie | Monkalizer do you considering changing Buttons Image? |
| 20:07.26 | Saeris | here, i can stream the texture creation process in a minute |
| 20:07.54 | Zolden | Saeris: oh, i see |
| 20:07.58 | Zolden | and ty for the link |
| 20:08.07 | Ahli | zolden, the unedited models look strange with your altered texture... :S http://snag.gy/Z2hqu.jpg |
| 20:08.08 | Zolden | i lack that theoretical info |
| 20:09.19 | Zolden | Ahli: because I changed specularity/specular hdr from 0, 1.0 to 5, 0.7 |
| 20:09.38 | Monkalizer | yeah that was why i was bumping it. |
| 20:09.47 | Ahli | I think I give you all models I have then :D |
| 20:09.48 | Saeris | http://www.twitch.tv/ansrath I'll stream the process for a texture or two really quick |
| 20:09.56 | Monkalizer | TwoDie: which part do you think is disturbing? |
| 20:10.17 | Dustin|Work | Your face part! |
| 20:10.23 | Zolden | Ahli, how many use those textures? |
| 20:10.44 | Ahli | I think all of the catacombs things |
| 20:11.00 | Ahli | I send u a rar with the other ones |
| 20:11.08 | Zolden | ok |
| 20:11.23 | InvincibleSlinky | BAh i am worried about this next balance patch |
| 20:11.36 | InvincibleSlinky | for hots |
| 20:11.45 | InvincibleSlinky | because if they buff the swarm host... |
| 20:11.46 | InvincibleSlinky | damn |
| 20:11.52 | InvincibleSlinky | In lower leagues its murdering everyone |
| 20:12.06 | Blizz-Deletarius | afk lunch |
| 20:12.10 | Blizz-Deletarius | invinci |
| 20:12.22 | Blizz-Deletarius | go air |
| 20:12.25 | InvincibleSlinky | haha |
| 20:12.28 | InvincibleSlinky | thats not the problem |
| 20:12.29 | Blizz-Deletarius | or fungal growth |
| 20:12.33 | InvincibleSlinky | Most noobs forget detection :P |
| 20:12.37 | Blizz-Deletarius | ^ |
| 20:12.38 | InvincibleSlinky | soo if it can move easier :P |
| 20:12.52 | Blizz-Deletarius | I think I'm gonna go play some hots beta myself |
| 20:13.00 | Zolden | Saeris: yeah, cool |
| 20:13.03 | InvincibleSlinky | Its down for maitenance |
| 20:13.05 | InvincibleSlinky | isnt it? |
| 20:13.08 | Blizz-Deletarius | lemme check |
| 20:13.16 | Blizz-Deletarius | if it is, that's a bummer |
| 20:13.48 | Blizz-Deletarius | yeap |
| 20:13.56 | Blizz-Deletarius | looks like I've gotta go back to WoL |
| 20:14.26 | TwoDie | Monkalizer the start and green check marks on units, star could be more to any side moved and green check mark replace with green boarder? |
| 20:14.32 | InvincibleSlinky | Hey mey name is as long as your now :P |
| 20:15.07 | TwoDie | Monkalizer and default UI buttons texture. |
| 20:15.20 | Blizz-Deletarius | yeap, back to wings |
| 20:16.11 | Dustin|Work | No games on the clock! |
| 20:16.29 | Blizz-Deletarius | I'm on lunch break |
| 20:16.31 | Blizz-Deletarius | off the clock ;) |
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| 20:17.07 | Dustin|Work | I guess it is 12 there :P |
| 20:18.17 | Ahli | will we receive looping portrait talking animations in hots? I dislike that I can only make talking mouths for a few seconds depending on the portrait's best line in campaign :S |
| 20:18.52 | Ahli | just a generic talking thing is enough... it's much better than closed mouth talking all the time |
| 20:19.02 | Monkalizer | hm... i guess i could compress them more, perhaps adding them to the corners. I like the stars though. It indicates the units level (it can only have 3) |
| 20:19.59 | Dustin|Work | Monk |
| 20:20.08 | Dustin|Work | Move the checkmark to the top left and shrink it |
| 20:20.11 | Zolden | Saeris: wow, it works perfect |
| 20:20.32 | Dustin|Work | and make the stars stack vertically and move them to the bottom right side |
| 20:20.47 | Monkalizer | hm... i have to drink tea while i decide... but yeah the checkmark kind of hides the unit... |
| 20:21.01 | Dustin|Work | A green boarder would work to |
| 20:21.03 | Monkalizer | now thats a really good idea |
| 20:21.17 | Dustin|Work | But I think the checkmark smaller in the top left would look cool |
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| 20:21.35 | Monkalizer | there is in fact room for a green border |
| 20:22.14 | Dustin|Work | I think the border would add some polish to it, cause everything else looks slick |
| 20:25.02 | Saeris | anyways, that's the basic workflow |
| 20:25.23 | Saeris | nDo takes care of the normal and AO maps easy |
| 20:25.29 | Zolden | yea |
| 20:25.40 | zenxu | soo |
| 20:25.41 | Saeris | specular takes a bit longer, but it's worth it to do it by hand |
| 20:25.44 | zenxu | I spent my time today |
| 20:25.46 | zenxu | playing pokemon |
| 20:25.55 | zenxu | would I say its awesome or im just sad |
| 20:25.56 | Saeris | the specular present nDo has always looks cruddy |
| 20:26.09 | Zolden | i've alvays been missing the proper deepness of normal maps |
| 20:26.17 | Saeris | because it only makes a a very harsh B&W map |
| 20:26.23 | Saeris | so everything looks plastic |
| 20:26.45 | Zolden | is nDo free? |
| 20:26.47 | Zolden | or beta? |
| 20:26.48 | Taintedwisp | Wish my data editor was online i want to tell him something... |
| 20:26.49 | Zolden | what is it? |
| 20:27.08 | Saeris | doing it the way I just did is still pretty dirty, but at least I've got some control over the different materials |
| 20:27.21 | Saeris | you can purchase it for like $65 or something |
| 20:27.32 | Taintedwisp | Hey can Triggers be Copy.Pasted from 1 map to another? |
| 20:27.36 | zenxu | GOTTA CATCH EM ALL |
| 20:27.37 | Zolden | at least it less dirty if you make everything by hands |
| 20:27.39 | Saeris | but there are ways to get it for free too I figure |
| 20:28.05 | Taintedwisp | My trigger editor is offline too :P |
| 20:28.09 | Taintedwisp | damn americans |
| 20:28.13 | Taintedwisp | < american |
| 20:28.14 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 20:28.18 | Saeris | yea, I just don't like to take very long making maps, because for one of my projects I'm going to have to make thousands of these |
| 20:28.33 | Saeris | I've only done about 50 texture sets so far |
| 20:29.15 | Zolden | thousands of different boxes? |
| 20:30.13 | Saeris | lol, well the models aren't all boxes =P |
| 20:30.36 | Zolden | but still, why do you need so many? |
| 20:30.42 | Zolden | what kind of maps need so many models? |
| 20:30.43 | Taintedwisp | Hey say i wanted to change control of 1/3rd a players units, how would I do that? |
| 20:31.21 | Dustin|Work | Math |
| 20:31.33 | Taintedwisp | what? |
| 20:31.39 | Saeris | actually all the buildings in WoW have multiple textures that they all share, so take a shrine for example, it may have 5-10 different textures applied to it |
| 20:31.39 | Dustin|Work | Get a group of all a players Units |
| 20:31.58 | Saeris | multiply that by a bunch of buildings and you get a ton of textures |
| 20:32.00 | Dustin|Work | Set an Int as NUMBER_OF_UNITS_IN_GROUP |
| 20:32.22 | Dustin|Work | Then do a while loop and populate a new group with 1 random unit from the main group |
| 20:32.25 | Saeris | pretty much every texture in that folder I had up was from a building model, and most of the textures are tileable |
| 20:32.34 | Dustin|Work | Then increment some other Int variable by 1 |
| 20:32.40 | Dustin|Work | Or actually |
| 20:33.02 | TwoDie | Saeris what you developing? :O |
| 20:33.07 | A1win | Taintedwisp: For each integer i from 1 to number of units in units owned by player / 3 { set unit u = random unit from the group, change control of u, remove u from the group } |
| 20:33.11 | Dustin|Work | Just make the While NumberOfUnitsInGroup(NewGRoup) < NumberOfUnitsInGroup(Main group) / 3 |
| 20:33.34 | Dustin|Work | Me and A1win know what's up |
| 20:33.43 | Saeris | it's not far enough along to talk about it atm, and I may be stuck on that project until the third party tools get better |
| 20:33.55 | Saeris | I'm having a bunch of issues getting animations to work right |
| 20:34.07 | Saeris | and I'm no animator |
| 20:34.09 | A1win | oh wait you don't need a for each loop |
| 20:34.21 | Dustin|Work | Do a While Loop |
| 20:34.24 | A1win | Taintedwisp: Repeat (number of units in units owned by player / 3) times { set unit u = random unit from the group, change control of u, remove u from the group } |
| 20:35.29 | A1win | (first add all units the player owns to a group variable) |
| 20:36.18 | Dustin|Work | We've basically written the trigger for him at this point A1win lol |
| 20:36.25 | A1win | ;x indeed |
| 20:37.23 | A1win | DeadZergling, I don't think I can do the project, it would suck without voice acting and I don't feel like listening to my own voice until I get it to sound reasonable :P |
| 20:37.40 | Taintedwisp | okay thanks :P |
| 20:37.50 | DeadZergling | lol A1Win |
| 20:37.56 | DeadZergling | are you saying you giving up on this project? |
| 20:38.09 | A1win | it's not really a project yet ;p |
| 20:38.22 | Dustin|Work | I got a professional Voice Actor as a best friend |
| 20:38.23 | A1win | I haven't touched the editor for it at all |
| 20:38.24 | DeadZergling | and before the 2 weeks too |
| 20:38.37 | A1win | hehe |
| 20:38.48 | *** join/#sc2mapster tordy (b84cf6c8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.76.246.200) |
| 20:38.51 | tordy | im never gonna get an hots key :( |
| 20:39.05 | DeadZergling | sure you are, just preorder, lol |
| 20:39.06 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 20:39.08 | Taintedwisp | Why tordy? |
| 20:39.18 | Taintedwisp | < gots beta |
| 20:39.22 | Dustin|Work | HOTS key isn't much fun |
| 20:39.33 | tordy | i know, it's just the principle |
| 20:39.37 | Dustin|Work | hehe |
| 20:39.44 | Dustin|Work | I think I got first wave of them |
| 20:39.49 | Taintedwisp | Yeah HoTS is the best :P you are really missing out, on everyhting, you may be missing out on one of lifes greatest things!! |
| 20:39.51 | Taintedwisp | trolol |
| 20:40.00 | Taintedwisp | Dustin 1st wave was a no |
| 20:40.01 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 20:40.05 | tordy | hello Otixa |
| 20:40.06 | Taintedwisp | 1st wave was just pros and casters |
| 20:40.10 | Taintedwisp | 2nd wave was mappers and contest |
| 20:40.18 | Taintedwisp | I got 2nd wave |
| 20:40.29 | tordy | what exactly was the contest again> |
| 20:40.30 | Dustin|Work | I got friend/famil beta |
| 20:40.36 | Taintedwisp | ahh |
| 20:40.43 | Dustin|Work | Got some friends who work for Blizz |
| 20:40.51 | DeadZergling | anyways, been playing w/ threads again A1Win, think I may have them more figured out now. |
| 20:40.59 | A1win | good :P |
| 20:41.16 | tordy | what exactly was the contest again? |
| 20:41.41 | DeadZergling | about done w/ my buff icon system too, is so you can see time remaining on buffs/debuffs, remove them by clicking on them if it is a buff |
| 20:41.50 | tordy | besides the random review |
| 20:41.54 | Saeris | yea, i've lost a lot of matches in the HotS beta |
| 20:42.04 | Dustin|Work | Dead, that's awesome |
| 20:42.15 | Saeris | was actually alright to play during the F&F beta, but as soon as pros were let in I've been stomped ever since |
| 20:42.43 | tordy | the principle, i feel so left out :[ |
| 20:42.58 | tordy | maybe i should pay attention to these contests more |
| 20:43.12 | A1win | I kinda want to make something that's based on some kind of an AI... |
| 20:43.16 | Dustin|Work | I have like 10 Dota 2 keys, you want one of those little guy? |
| 20:43.17 | Saeris | also, here's a sample of all the textures I've generated so far: http://i.imgur.com/oS7E1.jpg |
| 20:43.26 | Otixa | mornin bitches x_x |
| 20:43.29 | A1win | or where the AI is majority of the implementation |
| 20:43.31 | tordy | XD dota 2 is the only thing i got but didnt even want |
| 20:43.37 | Saeris | heya otixa |
| 20:43.45 | Dustin|Work | lol |
| 20:43.52 | tordy | i got a dota 2 invite relatively early |
| 20:43.57 | Dustin|Work | Otixa, stop changing the subject |
| 20:44.01 | tordy | and then got like 8 invites so im like valve stop sending me these i dont want them |
| 20:44.04 | Dustin|Work | You're being a real jerk |
| 20:44.12 | Otixa | qq |
| 20:44.16 | Dustin|Work | I'm gonna have to mute you now |
| 20:44.17 | Otixa | Saeris, did you make those? |
| 20:44.26 | tordy | Otixa & Taintedwisp sitting in a tree |
| 20:44.27 | Saeris | yes otixa |
| 20:44.28 | Otixa | Dustin|Work, I see what you did thar |
| 20:44.32 | Dustin|Work | hehe |
| 20:44.36 | Taintedwisp | what? |
| 20:44.37 | DeadZergling | yea, is amazing how a little bit of UI makes an alpha w/ a long ways to go still magically makes it seem more like a real RPG |
| 20:44.47 | DeadZergling | throw in health/mana bars, some buff icons |
| 20:44.49 | tordy | Dustin Browder, hard at work @ blizz hq i see |
| 20:44.51 | Taintedwisp | I'm still trying to figure out how to get all of a players units into a unit group |
| 20:44.52 | Taintedwisp | ' |
| 20:44.53 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 20:44.55 | DeadZergling | all the sudden it is looking all cool, lol |
| 20:44.55 | Otixa | Saeris, as in, did you paint those? :P |
| 20:45.03 | Taintedwisp | <triggering noob |
| 20:45.04 | Dustin|Work | Tainted |
| 20:45.07 | Saeris | yes sort of |
| 20:45.18 | Dustin|Work | Make a new Unit GRoup Variable |
| 20:45.24 | Taintedwisp | did that |
| 20:45.25 | Dustin|Work | Set that variable to a unit group function |
| 20:45.27 | Saeris | http://www.twitch.tv/ansrath/b/345543513 i just streamed how to make them |
| 20:45.37 | Dustin|Work | Any unit, Owned by player 1 matching conditions |
| 20:45.43 | A1win | Taintedwisp, units in region for player, or something like that, and choose Entire Map as the region |
| 20:45.54 | Dustin|Work | ^ |
| 20:46.15 | Otixa | nDo2 ;D |
| 20:46.34 | Otixa | But no, it doesn't count ;p |
| 20:46.42 | tordy | Otixa good afternoon |
| 20:46.49 | Taintedwisp | owould units attached to entire map work? |
| 20:46.55 | A1win | attached? |
| 20:46.56 | Dustin|Work | Wha |
| 20:46.57 | Saeris | i'm too lazy to hand paint textures |
| 20:47.01 | Dustin|Work | Is that even an option |
| 20:47.01 | Otixa | tordy, it's 11PM here |
| 20:47.05 | Otixa | and I just woke up x_x |
| 20:47.08 | tordy | yea good afternoon |
| 20:47.17 | Dustin|Work | Just click Unit Groups on the function selector |
| 20:47.22 | tordy | wait a min 11PM oh ok |
| 20:47.29 | tordy | good night? |
| 20:47.30 | Dustin|Work | and find the one that's Units in region matching conditions |
| 20:47.34 | Otixa | smacks Saeris with a stick |
| 20:47.58 | Taintedwisp | I hit add unit to unit group, then I hit triggering unit and tried to find the region |
| 20:48.03 | Taintedwisp | the attached region is the only one |
| 20:48.12 | A1win | Taintedwisp, that's a unit, not a unit group |
| 20:48.12 | Dustin|Work | no |
| 20:48.18 | Dustin|Work | Unit Group |
| 20:48.20 | A1win | add unit group to unit group |
| 20:48.30 | Otixa | Run, run, run your lightmass... |
| 20:48.32 | A1win | or simply Set Variable |
| 20:48.39 | Otixa | ...Gently down the... Oh, fuck it |
| 20:48.49 | Dustin|Work | Do I have to construct this shit and pastee it Taintedwisp |
| 20:48.50 | Dustin|Work | :D |
| 20:49.22 | Otixa | hits Dustin|Work with a notebook |
| 20:49.25 | tordy | what's tainted trying to do |
| 20:49.29 | Taintedwisp | kk go tit |
| 20:49.30 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 20:49.34 | Taintedwisp | Triggers tordy :P |
| 20:49.36 | tordy | u better get it |
| 20:49.38 | Taintedwisp | i hate trigger |
| 20:49.50 | tordy | but triggers are the easiest ones to learn! |
| 20:50.24 | Taintedwisp | GOT IT |
| 20:50.25 | Saeris | otixa you gonna go back to making tutorials? |
| 20:50.26 | Taintedwisp | !!! |
| 20:50.27 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 20:50.28 | Dustin|Work | Yeah! Simple logic |
| 20:50.34 | Taintedwisp | okay so the units are in the unit group now |
| 20:50.45 | Otixa | Saeris, yeah, maybe. Just gotta finish this project first |
| 20:50.53 | tordy | Taintedwisp: what're you doin |
| 20:51.03 | tordy | what project Otixa. im very curious |
| 20:51.11 | Taintedwisp | [15:32] <A1win> Taintedwisp: For each integer i from 1 to number of units in units owned by player / 3 { set unit u = random unit from the group, change control of u, remove u from the group } |
| 20:51.20 | Saeris | cool, looking forward to seeing them |
| 20:51.21 | Otixa | The Darksiders-style iOS game |
| 20:51.38 | A1win | Taintedwisp, use the second one with the Repeat loop instead of for each integer |
| 20:51.41 | Otixa | I'll screenshot once lightmass finishes ;p |
| 20:51.42 | Taintedwisp | okay so i am at the /3 |
| 20:51.43 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 20:52.02 | tordy | not sur ewhat u mean by the /3 part |
| 20:52.15 | tordy | 1/3 of plahyer's units |
| 20:52.18 | tordy | ? |
| 20:52.23 | Taintedwisp | yeha |
| 20:52.31 | Taintedwisp | I am trying to change the owner of 1/3rd the players units |
| 20:52.33 | A1win | use either an Expression or Arithmetic (integer) to do the math |
| 20:52.36 | Taintedwisp | Its the simplist of 10 events |
| 20:52.48 | Dustin|Work | Tainted |
| 20:52.56 | Dustin|Work | Im going to make this and pastee it |
| 20:53.03 | tordy | i forgot how it works but in what order does the function count the units? |
| 20:53.12 | tordy | might be inconsistent |
| 20:53.16 | Saeris | btw otixa, happen to know where xaragoth went off to? |
| 20:53.21 | tordy | top left to bottom right of region? |
| 20:53.30 | Otixa | Saeris, he's on skype =p |
| 20:53.38 | Otixa | We're still doing shit together |
| 20:53.50 | tordy | it might not be very random if you only pick the first 1/3 counted |
| 20:54.12 | Saeris | gotcha. yea you both haven't been around for a while, lol |
| 20:54.40 | Saeris | also i remember him saying that he was thinking of going to Gnomon, wondered if he ever went |
| 20:54.51 | Taintedwisp | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93971126/Events.txt I am trying to do those :P |
| 20:54.58 | Taintedwisp | well atleast some of them |
| 20:55.07 | Otixa | Saeris, that was me, not Xara |
| 20:55.13 | Otixa | Also, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/Models/DS_WIP4.jpg |
| 20:55.27 | Saeris | oh, well shit. my memory is terrible |
| 20:55.59 | Zolden | Otixa do you use nDo? |
| 20:56.06 | Otixa | Yes |
| 20:56.08 | Otixa | It's epic |
| 20:56.15 | Zolden | you got it for free? |
| 20:56.24 | Otixa | Notrly ;/ |
| 20:56.34 | Zolden | payed motherfucking $65? |
| 20:56.37 | Saeris | i went there for a year just this past year.... couldn't keep up with the course load nor could I afford it anymore |
| 20:56.47 | Zolden | god, we don't pay for programs in russia |
| 20:56.55 | Otixa | ;P |
| 20:57.06 | Otixa | Saeris, I think I may not be going in the end tho |
| 20:57.18 | Otixa | Thinking of starting my own gamedev company with Xara and all |
| 20:57.30 | Saeris | cool deal |
| 20:57.43 | Saeris | let me know if you need a designer =P |
| 20:57.45 | Zolden | use me as music creater for your game dev company! |
| 20:57.57 | Otixa | Zolden, link to 'folio ;p |
| 20:58.15 | Saeris | also, gnomon wasn't really worth it IMO |
| 20:58.29 | Saeris | it was too intense for me to get much out of it |
| 20:58.34 | Zolden | Otixa: spammed some trcks here: https://soundcloud.com/vasily-milov |
| 20:58.43 | Otixa | Well, the uni I go to |
| 20:58.47 | Otixa | This semester anyway |
| 20:59.01 | Saeris | 30 hours of classes + 90 hours of homework a week |
| 20:59.09 | Saeris | was barely getting 3 hours of sleep a night |
| 20:59.12 | Otixa | We have to work on dissertation, make a game engine, make an iOS game and make a legal contract and business plan |
| 20:59.17 | Otixa | so it's like wtf mens |
| 20:59.48 | tordy | Otixa since when did you make games |
| 20:59.54 | tordy | are you the modeler? |
| 20:59.57 | Otixa | Since always ;p |
| 21:00.03 | tordy | are you inovlved with designing or programming? |
| 21:00.05 | Otixa | I'm both a modeler and programmer |
| 21:00.23 | tordy | wow i thought you were always jsut the modeller |
| 21:00.32 | tordy | thanks for surprising me to today Otixa |
| 21:00.37 | Otixa | :P |
| 21:00.52 | Saeris | i need to learn more about programming zZz |
| 21:01.01 | tordy | you just got respect++ |
| 21:01.11 | tordy | cuz it's hard finding people that know both modelling and programming |
| 21:01.28 | tordy | Otixa i'd hug u if i could, no homo |
| 21:01.33 | mille25 | tordy: probably because most programmers are not very creative |
| 21:01.40 | Taintedwisp | YOu see my goal Dustin|Work is to create all of these triggers then throw them into an integer and have the game pick a random integer 1-10, and fire that event :P |
| 21:01.43 | tordy | that's exactly why |
| 21:01.46 | tordy | programmers are logical thinkers |
| 21:01.49 | tordy | modellers are creative thinkers |
| 21:01.52 | Otixa | btw |
| 21:01.52 | Taintedwisp | The events are created to be fair no matter what :P |
| 21:01.55 | Saeris | i know some fundamentals, but not anywhere near enough to actually make something useful =/ |
| 21:02.01 | tordy | 2 conflicting sides of thought |
| 21:02.02 | Otixa | Zolden, I'm Russian aswell :B |
| 21:02.18 | Zolden | oh, cool |
| 21:02.23 | tordy | wooooooooow Otixa is russian... omfg you are a genius |
| 21:02.24 | Otixa | Well, was |
| 21:02.25 | A1win | there's no conflict between logical and creative thinking o: |
| 21:02.27 | Otixa | A long time ago |
| 21:02.30 | Taintedwisp | RUSSIA, didnt we kick your ass in WW3? |
| 21:02.31 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 21:02.40 | Otixa | Also, cool music |
| 21:02.44 | tordy | maybe not conlfict, more like strong separation |
| 21:02.44 | Zolden | ty |
| 21:02.47 | Otixa | Zolden, can you do orchestral? |
| 21:02.51 | A1win | mm |
| 21:02.55 | Zolden | yea |
| 21:03.03 | Otixa | ;> |
| 21:03.14 | tordy | omg if Otixa can write music too |
| 21:03.20 | Zolden | lol |
| 21:03.31 | Otixa | I can't make good music, sadly ;p |
| 21:03.40 | Otixa | I can play some tho :P |
| 21:03.47 | tordy | >:) |
| 21:04.34 | A1win | I also do a bit of everything |
| 21:04.57 | Otixa | Saeris, tried dDo? |
| 21:05.15 | Saeris | not yet, i want to though |
| 21:05.26 | Otixa | It's in beta atm, you can grab it free |
| 21:05.29 | Otixa | Doesn't work for me ;/ |
| 21:05.30 | Saeris | been on a programming binge lately |
| 21:06.14 | tordy | where |
| 21:06.31 | Otixa | http://quixel.se/ddo/ |
| 21:06.33 | mille25 | Saeris: oh are you studying CS? |
| 21:06.43 | Saeris | on my own, kinda? |
| 21:06.50 | mille25 | ah okay |
| 21:06.59 | Otixa | Saeris, what's yer official degree tho? |
| 21:07.02 | Saeris | mostly just reading books on PHP, OOP, MySQL and whatnot |
| 21:07.15 | Dustin|Work | Taintedwisp, |
| 21:07.16 | Dustin|Work | https://pastee.org/3u3t4 |
| 21:07.26 | Otixa | You need design patterns for game programming |
| 21:07.29 | Otixa | nods |
| 21:07.30 | Saeris | I don't really have one, just an AA in Visual Communications for Web/Print |
| 21:07.47 | Taintedwisp | okay thanks dustin |
| 21:07.56 | Otixa | Saeris, show 'folio |
| 21:08.00 | Ahli | how do I get the model name of an item name in wow? |
| 21:08.23 | Ahli | searching for the model for "Brutal Gladiator's Ornamented Headcover" |
| 21:08.32 | Saeris | the project I'm working on is working with statistics, not all that game related |
| 21:08.50 | tordy | is openGL still used widely? |
| 21:08.57 | Dustin|Work | yes |
| 21:08.58 | Otixa | yes |
| 21:09.01 | tordy | yes |
| 21:09.14 | Saeris | i don't have much to show you, Otixa, just http://miritica.net/ which I haven't updated in about a year |
| 21:09.22 | Otixa | iOS games mostly use OpenGL ES |
| 21:09.56 | Dustin|Work | My main career is still advanced web development |
| 21:09.57 | Otixa | Saeris, me gusta your webdesign :B |
| 21:09.58 | tordy | i thought it was Unity |
| 21:09.58 | Dustin|Work | shit's fun |
| 21:10.29 | Saeris | ty, it's a template =P |
| 21:10.40 | tordy | im gonna steal it, is that ok with u? |
| 21:11.00 | Dustin|Work | How do you plan on stealing it? lol |
| 21:11.34 | Otixa | Web design is the most annoying industry ever |
| 21:11.35 | Otixa | >:C |
| 21:11.42 | Dustin|Work | It can be yes :P |
| 21:11.42 | tordy | well i can take the design |
| 21:11.45 | Otixa | And dealing with clients... Oh god... |
| 21:11.51 | Saeris | that's why I got out of it before I really ever got into it |
| 21:12.05 | Otixa | I did web design & prog before I realized that "fuck this shit" |
| 21:12.12 | tordy | see all the client-side code like html and any javascript |
| 21:12.15 | tordy | reverse engineer the other stuff |
| 21:12.21 | Dustin|Work | I do support and development for a Time Clock company right now, our code is all web code and the clock server is jsut a web server |
| 21:12.26 | Dustin|Work | It's a pretty cool setup |
| 21:12.41 | Dustin|Work | Tordy |
| 21:12.46 | tordy | i kid i kid |
| 21:12.54 | Saeris | my first experiences doing web and graphic design for clients was pretty awful. decided it wasn't for me and turned all my efforts to game design |
| 21:12.59 | Saeris | doing much better there |
| 21:13.02 | Dustin|Work | You understand websites these days are dynamic and the HTML is probably being generated from server side code right :P |
| 21:13.19 | Otixa | Saeris, got any 3D shit to show? |
| 21:13.26 | Otixa | Also game design documents |
| 21:13.38 | Saeris | not really, lol |
| 21:13.46 | Otixa | >:| |
| 21:13.48 | Otixa | Slacker |
| 21:13.50 | Otixa | Get to work |
| 21:13.55 | Otixa | cracks whip |
| 21:14.03 | tordy | i know but is Saeris using dynamic webpages ? |
| 21:14.19 | Otixa | no |
| 21:14.19 | tordy | can i have the pictures at least |
| 21:14.29 | Otixa | no |
| 21:14.32 | Otixa | smacks tordy |
| 21:14.37 | Otixa | Stop stealing shit |
| 21:14.47 | tordy | im just kidding, i'd only steal from Otixa |
| 21:14.53 | Saeris | hey, I work on a ton of different projects, so I don't have much that's fully fleshed out that I'm proud enough to show off |
| 21:14.59 | Otixa | Go buy me some redbull |
| 21:15.10 | Saeris | workin on changing that |
| 21:15.11 | tordy | it looks great Saeris |
| 21:15.17 | Otixa | I gotta finish this scene in the next 4 days |
| 21:15.26 | tordy | i wanna finally make a full fledged website of my own |
| 21:15.41 | tordy | but im too lazy and lack motivation to ever finish |
| 21:15.44 | Otixa | Eh, I should prolly make my site too |
| 21:15.55 | tordy | it's gonna wind up super ugly or something |
| 21:15.58 | tordy | or plain at least |
| 21:16.08 | Saeris | and yea tordy the site is wordpress with a template applied |
| 21:16.16 | tordy | since i suck at designing |
| 21:17.06 | tordy | i wanna try one from scratch, no CMS |
| 21:17.09 | Otixa | Maybe I should do a video on basic design principles and shit ;p |
| 21:17.16 | Saeris | I do have at least one game design doc Otixa, but I'm not comfortable publishing it. actively trying to develop it, lol |
| 21:17.26 | Saeris | do it |
| 21:17.27 | Otixa | Tho, Xara is fully against doing a live show again |
| 21:17.34 | Otixa | So it'd likely be prerecorded |
| 21:17.46 | Saeris | sounds better to me, honestly |
| 21:17.52 | Otixa | Well, yeah |
| 21:17.57 | Otixa | But live was more fun |
| 21:18.05 | Otixa | Even if more fail :P |
| 21:18.26 | Otixa | Still remember episode1 |
| 21:18.35 | Saeris | live isn't as good for learning a subject, IMO |
| 21:18.36 | Otixa | I had this notebook with a script I wrote |
| 21:18.42 | Saeris | too chaotic, needs more structure |
| 21:18.46 | Otixa | And I was sorta reading from it |
| 21:18.49 | Otixa | Then got lost |
| 21:18.56 | Otixa | Was like "well, fuck that then" |
| 21:19.07 | Otixa | Rambled on about random shit |
| 21:19.09 | Otixa | >> |
| 21:19.35 | Saeris | an overview of basic design principles would be good for the community. I think one covering programming fundamentals and best pracitices would be good too |
| 21:19.47 | Otixa | Mebbeh |
| 21:20.06 | tordy | so design patterns? |
| 21:20.22 | Otixa | Design patterns isn't really basic :P |
| 21:20.30 | tordy | >:[ |
| 21:20.31 | Otixa | And not exactly applicable to SC2 either |
| 21:20.33 | Saeris | lots of people have really shitty practices when it comes to making triggers, which is basically programming for dummies anyways |
| 21:20.35 | Otixa | Since it's not OOP |
| 21:20.39 | Saeris | same principles still apply |
| 21:20.43 | tordy | fine, data structures |
| 21:21.00 | Otixa | We'll see |
| 21:21.04 | Dustin|Work | Yeah I spend most of my time explain the logic behind creating things to people |
| 21:21.06 | Otixa | Lemme finish semester first ;p |
| 21:21.15 | Otixa | Got until the 13th to finish all this shit |
| 21:21.35 | Otixa | So earliest I'd make tutorials is around mid January |
| 21:21.55 | Saeris | btw, cool music there zolden. could see it working well in any retro video game |
| 21:22.02 | Otixa | ^ |
| 21:22.13 | Otixa | I'm still listening to it in the background :B |
| 21:22.15 | tordy | friday the 13th? |
| 21:22.23 | Otixa | Thursday |
| 21:22.48 | tordy | what're we talkin about again |
| 21:23.30 | Dustin|Work | Taintedwisp, did you understand that trigger alright? |
| 21:23.37 | Taintedwisp | Kinda :P |
| 21:23.40 | Saeris | it isn't free, but I recently watched the Lynda.com series on Programming Fundamentals, and I found it to be really good |
| 21:23.42 | Dustin|Work | k :P |
| 21:24.03 | Taintedwisp | i understand how to manipulate it to fit my needs haha |
| 21:24.09 | Dustin|Work | k :) |
| 21:24.26 | Otixa | So what kind of programming tutorials would you nabs want? |
| 21:24.33 | Otixa | What language? |
| 21:24.40 | tordy | haskell |
| 21:24.44 | Otixa | ;/ |
| 21:24.44 | Dustin|Work | assembly |
| 21:24.45 | tordy | and assembly |
| 21:24.50 | Dustin|Work | ^5 |
| 21:24.52 | Otixa | Y not brainfuck? |
| 21:25.00 | Otixa | ...>>><<<+++++ |
| 21:25.05 | tordy | cuz that's a lame esoteric language, i want something serious u dummy! |
| 21:25.05 | Taintedwisp | hey dustin https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93971126/Events.txt :P |
| 21:25.06 | Dustin|Work | Teach me to code in binary Otixa ! |
| 21:25.10 | Taintedwisp | those are what I am trying to do |
| 21:25.11 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 21:25.23 | Taintedwisp | The tier up and down should be just a matter of changing a global variable |
| 21:25.24 | Saeris | anything C based would be nice |
| 21:25.38 | tordy | galaxy is C based right |
| 21:25.39 | Otixa | Dustin|Work, real men code with a steady hand and magnetized needle! |
| 21:25.47 | tordy | go make some maps |
| 21:25.48 | Otixa | sorta |
| 21:25.51 | Dustin|Work | lolol |
| 21:26.01 | tordy | it's like a butchered C |
| 21:26.02 | Dustin|Work | REAL MEN USE PUNCHCARDS FOR PROGRAMMING |
| 21:26.08 | tordy | that lacks memory allocation and etc |
| 21:26.08 | Otixa | x_x |
| 21:26.17 | Otixa | Dustin|Work, my dad was a real man then xD |
| 21:26.23 | Dustin|Work | lolol |
| 21:26.33 | Otixa | s/was/is/g |
| 21:26.42 | Otixa | He's not dead just yet ;p |
| 21:27.17 | Dustin|Work | ha, nice didn't know purl supported s/ |
| 21:27.23 | Saeris | brb |
| 21:27.35 | Dustin|Work | Taintedwisp, is a douchebag. |
| 21:27.46 | Dustin|Work | s/a douchebag/a BIG douchebag/ |
| 21:27.49 | Dustin|Work | lol |
| 21:27.54 | Otixa | Everyone's a douchebag |
| 21:27.58 | Otixa | Nothing new there |
| 21:28.06 | tordy | cept me |
| 21:28.19 | Dustin|Work | Tordy you're like president of the douchebags |
| 21:28.27 | Otixa | Saeris, go try dDo and tell me if it works for you |
| 21:28.44 | tordy | at least i have authority! |
| 21:30.25 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:31.17 | Taintedwisp | Cept Otixa, hes more of a bitch then a douchebag |
| 21:31.17 | Zolden | i don't get it, wasn't you streaming dDo using an hour ago? |
| 21:31.24 | Zolden | Saeris: |
| 21:31.34 | Otixa | ;) |
| 21:31.42 | Otixa | Zolden, that was nDo2 |
| 21:31.49 | Zolden | oh |
| 21:31.56 | Saeris | hmmm |
| 21:32.09 | Zolden | is there a difference? |
| 21:32.16 | Saeris | well it crashed on me just now trying to update |
| 21:32.56 | Saeris | but it seems to work if I don't update it |
| 21:33.18 | Otixa | Zolden, huge difference |
| 21:33.47 | Saeris | one is for making Normal maps, the other for making Diffuse maps |
| 21:33.49 | Otixa | Yeh, newest dDo build still doesn't work for me :( |
| 21:33.55 | Zolden | oh, got it |
| 21:34.06 | Otixa | Saeris, it makes diffuse, spec, height, gloss and everything else too |
| 21:34.14 | Saeris | dDo is much more xomplicated from everything that i've seen |
| 21:35.03 | Otixa | It's epic |
| 21:35.05 | Otixa | go try it |
| 21:35.11 | Otixa | And stream if it works |
| 21:35.18 | Saeris | trying to figure it out right now |
| 21:35.23 | *** join/#sc2mapster Tivec (~Tivec@ti0018a380-0833.bb.online.no) |
| 21:35.36 | Otixa | Well, you load a normal map, cavity and color map into it |
| 21:35.39 | Otixa | And a model |
| 21:35.42 | Otixa | Then tweak shit |
| 21:36.01 | Saeris | problem is, I'm basically not a texture artist >.< barely know what i am doing |
| 21:36.03 | Otixa | Works best with wolrd space normals |
| 21:36.17 | Otixa | Saeris, this is supposed to make you not need texture artists :P |
| 21:36.41 | Otixa | Watch their tutorial vid |
| 21:36.46 | tordy | Otixa what do you think of Anita Sarkeesian? |
| 21:36.47 | Saeris | i'll see if I can get something going from some WoW textures I've got |
| 21:37.08 | Otixa | tordy, dunno who that is |
| 21:37.19 | tordy | *phew* |
| 21:37.23 | tordy | dodged a bullet |
| 21:39.27 | Saeris | yea, i don't think I could really make much use of this on first glance |
| 21:39.51 | Otixa | Saeris, load in a semi-complicated model & normal map |
| 21:40.22 | Saeris | basically I'd need to already have normals baked out from a high poly model and a color map to dfine the materials, neither of which I have |
| 21:40.32 | Otixa | Saeris, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/CTFFlag.rar |
| 21:40.39 | Otixa | Model is in m3 tho |
| 21:40.41 | Saeris | all the normal maps I've got are generated from WoW texutres |
| 21:40.45 | Otixa | So you'll prolly have to convert it |
| 21:40.55 | Otixa | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/ctf_flag.rar |
| 21:40.59 | Otixa | Textures in TGA ^ |
| 21:41.05 | Otixa | Enjoy :P |
| 21:42.07 | tordy | thanks for giving that to me Otixa |
| 21:42.13 | Otixa | shrugs |
| 21:42.18 | Otixa | I made it for the mapster community |
| 21:42.27 | Otixa | just never got around to uploading it as an asset |
| 21:42.30 | tordy | that's mighty kind of you |
| 21:42.51 | Otixa | Preview: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/Flag2.jpg |
| 21:42.55 | Otixa | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/Flag_CTF.jpg |
| 21:43.40 | Zolden | cool |
| 21:44.40 | Dustin|Work | nice flag |
| 21:44.49 | Saeris | yea otixa those normals also don't work in dDo haha |
| 21:44.49 | Otixa | Thanks ;P |
| 21:44.55 | Otixa | Saeris, how come? |
| 21:45.06 | Saeris | you modified them for SC2 |
| 21:45.11 | Otixa | oh right |
| 21:45.17 | Otixa | Sec, lemme check |
| 21:45.30 | Saeris | s'aight |
| 21:45.34 | Otixa | Saeris, the one from the 2nd link |
| 21:45.37 | Saeris | i don't want to play around with this right now |
| 21:45.40 | Otixa | Are unmodified in TGA |
| 21:47.16 | Otixa | Saeris, no slacking! Do it! |
| 21:50.19 | Saeris | meh, I don't want to spend the rest of the day trying to learn dDo, I've got other work to do atm |
| 21:50.53 | Otixa | Slacker >;[ |
| 21:51.06 | Dustin|Work | You just lost 5 Dustin points for slacking Saeris ! |
| 21:51.30 | Otixa | nods |
| 21:51.32 | Saeris | i'm probably going to be working for the next 15 hours straight again =/ |
| 21:51.49 | tordy | Dustin how many Dustin points does David Kim have? |
| 21:52.00 | Dustin|Work | Like -300000 |
| 21:52.11 | tordy | wow that's a lil harsh dont you think? |
| 21:52.11 | Saeris | lol |
| 21:52.26 | Dustin|Work | That's what he gets. |
| 21:52.40 | Saeris | explain your reasoning |
| 21:52.42 | tordy | how many Dustin points do you have? |
| 21:52.51 | Dustin|Work | I don't control the Dustin point economy, I just live by it. |
| 21:53.10 | tordy | but you yourslef should have dustin points too? |
| 21:53.11 | Dustin|Work | I have like 55604060444534 |
| 21:53.21 | Dustin|Work | Im a Dustin Point billionaire |
| 21:53.21 | tordy | wow that much more than David Kim? |
| 21:53.33 | tordy | you sure you're not being a little biased |
| 21:53.50 | Dustin|Work | Hey man, I'm just laying down the facts |
| 21:54.01 | Saeris | lol |
| 21:54.01 | zlefin | battlecraft needs clearer help info |
| 21:54.08 | Dustin|Work | Oh great |
| 21:54.24 | Dustin|Work | zlefin-douchebag the 3rd is here bitching about irrelevant shit again |
| 21:54.31 | Ahli | fun or not strikes again http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/general-chat/42168-1-5-fun-or-not-do-you-still-use-it-invisible-lobby/?post=4 |
| 21:55.06 | Saeris | funny, cuz I actually know davie, the public perception of him is always amusing |
| 21:55.20 | Dustin|Work | I barely know who he is :P |
| 21:56.39 | Blizz-Deletarius | do you care about 1v1/mp at all? |
| 21:56.54 | tordy | that's crazy, dont you guys have lunch together? |
| 21:57.07 | Blizz-Deletarius | huh? |
| 21:57.14 | Dustin|Work | Tordy thinks im Dustin Browder |
| 21:57.17 | Blizz-Deletarius | oh |
| 21:57.30 | Blizz-Deletarius | that's fun |
| 21:57.44 | tordy | he's clearly dustin browder with a name like dustin |
| 21:57.46 | Dustin|Work | It was first the first year, 2nd year he's still doing it is less fun :P |
| 21:58.00 | Dustin|Work | s/was first/was fun/ |
| 21:58.08 | tordy | so anyway, does browder sit in a different lunch table than david kim or something? |
| 21:58.18 | Dustin|Work | Yeah man, we're like arch enemies |
| 21:58.31 | Saeris | lol |
| 21:58.44 | Ahli | sooo. I will try to build a complete wow model now with all attachments... I hope this works |
| 21:59.13 | tordy | keep your friends close but your enemies closer |
| 21:59.23 | zlefin | i hope i can get useful feedback on some test maps beforei start on my own balance mod |
| 21:59.30 | tordy | so dustin should be sitting right next to kim |
| 21:59.43 | zlefin | keep your enemies far away, peferably on the bottom of a pit; with spikes |
| 21:59.48 | zlefin | better yet, dont' have any enemies |
| 21:59.57 | Otixa | Blizz-Deletarius, make the terrain shader projection stuff! |
| 22:00.12 | Blizz-Deletarius | it's been passed on to our engineers |
| 22:00.18 | Blizz-Deletarius | that's not my area of expertise |
| 22:00.21 | Otixa | Goodie, thanks ;D |
| 22:00.26 | tordy | just hire Otixa, he knows what he's doing |
| 22:00.38 | Otixa | Unsure if I'd wanna work at Blizz :P |
| 22:00.52 | tordy | but we'd love to see Blizz-Otixa |
| 22:01.07 | Otixa | Would rather follow plan and start my own company with Xara and Tomoura etc ;p |
| 22:01.08 | Taintedwisp | blizz-Wisp, dat be da man :P |
| 22:01.10 | tordy | dont just change ur name tho |
| 22:01.27 | Dustin|Work | I dont want to work for blizzard cause I'd have to use an alias, can't go around calling myself Dustin with the chief upstairs |
| 22:01.36 | tordy | what is Xara and Tomoura? |
| 22:01.37 | Otixa | xD |
| 22:01.44 | Otixa | smacks tordy |
| 22:01.47 | Otixa | Xaragoth |
| 22:01.51 | Blizz-Deletarius | I had to give myself another alias |
| 22:02.05 | *** part/#sc2mapster G0A (~hookah604@87.97.61.96.pool.invitel.hu) |
| 22:02.26 | Dustin|Work | Does blizzard make thier community people comeup with aliases |
| 22:02.36 | Otixa | Blizz-Deletarius, what if you go to them and say your alias is X and then change it to what your alias actually is? :D |
| 22:02.37 | tordy | pretty sure everyone knows what dustin looks like so you cant just go around pretending to be a lower level employee |
| 22:02.57 | Dustin|Work | lol |
| 22:03.17 | Dustin|Work | If I put on some weight and shaved my head I'd be close! |
| 22:03.28 | Otixa | smacks Dustin|Work with a stick |
| 22:03.39 | Dustin|Work | I got the beard for it |
| 22:03.45 | T|I|S | ;p; |
| 22:03.53 | Dustin|Work | Tits in space? |
| 22:04.01 | T|I|S | The Invincible Slinky |
| 22:04.10 | Dustin|Work | I like Tits in space better :D |
| 22:05.16 | tordy | zlefin what feedback |
| 22:05.48 | Dustin|Work | Don't encourage him tordy |
| 22:05.57 | Saeris | hmmm, wonder if sixen is around |
| 22:05.58 | zlefin | just feedback in general; low popularity maps sometimes get barely any play; not that i've made the map yet, |
| 22:06.12 | tordy | you gotta advertise em |
| 22:06.19 | tordy | posting on the forums is a start |
| 22:06.21 | Dustin|Work | He was earlier Saeris, said he's been busy cramming for finals, so he's probably doing that. |
| 22:06.35 | zlefin | there's a variety of specific things i'd like to test; and i'ts a more controlled test if each one adjusts the base game |
| 22:06.37 | Saeris | right, forgot it was finals week |
| 22:08.25 | Ahli | hmmm, wow seems to mirror shoulder plates... |
| 22:08.29 | T|I|S | reading an article about how the tallest woman just died... |
| 22:08.33 | zlefin | i plan to psot on forums; but ya still sometimes don't get much; people aren't always keen on testing things out |
| 22:08.38 | Dustin|Work | Sounds about right Ahli |
| 22:08.48 | Ahli | or are there 2 models and I only exported one? :S |
| 22:08.53 | T|I|S | and all i could think about was "DAMN DAT BITCH COULDA DUNKED ON SHAQ!!!!".... does that make me a bad person? |
| 22:09.08 | Saeris | yes and no ahli, most of the times Yes, but for some very specific models, no |
| 22:09.09 | Ahli | I can't mirror models in sc2 I assume |
| 22:09.21 | Dustin|Work | Not that I'm aware of |
| 22:09.54 | Ahli | anyway, if I make one work properly, I need to get someone mirroring a model somehow |
| 22:10.00 | Dustin|Work | Just export one, flip it export another |
| 22:10.16 | Saeris | you can probably do it through maybe siteops? but the shoulder models need to be separate and you need to have the right attach points on the character model |
| 22:10.56 | Dustin|Work | OH ya, explicit rotation site op |
| 22:11.05 | Dustin|Work | But can you site op just a model, even if it's not an acotr |
| 22:11.06 | Dustin|Work | actor |
| 22:11.13 | T|I|S | I take the silence that i am a bad person... |
| 22:11.14 | T|I|S | touche |
| 22:11.31 | Ahli | will see |
| 22:11.38 | Dustin|Work | You're a bad person for other reasons :P |
| 22:11.54 | Saeris | finally |
| 22:12.02 | Saeris | they're adding 2v2 to HotS |
| 22:12.20 | T|I|S | kk good |
| 22:12.23 | Saeris | now if they'd just get the rest of the modes in |
| 22:12.25 | T|I|S | wanted to make sure i wasnt loosing my edge |
| 22:12.27 | T|I|S | :P |
| 22:12.28 | Saeris | would be so excited |
| 22:12.37 | T|I|S | its what I am known for haha |
| 22:13.44 | Sixen | Saeris: sup? :D |
| 22:13.56 | Sixen | saw your diagram btw, I just didn't get a chance to look much into it |
| 22:14.00 | T|I|S | Hey Blizz-Deletarius, you see this? http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/general-chat/42168-1-5-fun-or-not-do-you-still-use-it-invisible-lobby/#p1 Post # 4 |
| 22:14.02 | Saeris | you terribly busy with finals? |
| 22:14.08 | Saeris | also i have an updated one |
| 22:14.08 | Blizz-Deletarius | yep, saw it |
| 22:14.21 | T|I|S | kk |
| 22:14.24 | T|I|S | just making sure |
| 22:14.27 | Blizz-Deletarius | gonna pass it on to our team |
| 22:14.35 | T|I|S | kk awesome |
| 22:14.36 | Sixen | Just working on a final project atm saeris |
| 22:14.55 | T|I|S | Sixen is re-making DBZ TRIBUTE!!!!... i wish :P |
| 22:14.58 | tordy | i miss school |
| 22:15.13 | Sixen | I miss DBZ |
| 22:15.16 | Sixen | hate school ;o |
| 22:15.18 | Saeris | aight, well I'll send you a link to the updated version in a minute. would appreciate some feedback when you get the chance |
| 22:15.22 | Sixen | sure :) |
| 22:16.03 | Blizz-Deletarius | sent it out TIS |
| 22:16.23 | T|I|S | lol ok |
| 22:16.24 | tordy | i keep reading TIS as TITS for some reason |
| 22:16.34 | Dustin|Work | Tordy |
| 22:16.41 | Dustin|Work | I keep calling him Tits In Space |
| 22:16.42 | T|I|S | ITS THE INVINCIBLE SLINKY!!! |
| 22:16.44 | T|I|S | :P |
| 22:16.47 | Dustin|Work | So we're on the same page |
| 22:17.01 | tordy | cool im on the same page as Browder. It feels pretty awesome. Thanks man |
| 22:17.15 | T|I|S | I actually like this name, I think imma add it to the list of usernames i use :P |
| 22:17.30 | tordy | the | ruin it |
| 22:17.32 | Dustin|Work | Lmao, Snoop Lion did an AMA on reddit, and is so high he's asking himself questions |
| 22:17.37 | tordy | it looks so lame |
| 22:18.07 | TIS | happy? |
| 22:18.12 | tordy | yea |
| 22:19.52 | TIS | Heres the current list of my username s:P |
| 22:19.53 | TIS | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93971126/USERNAMES.txt |
| 22:19.58 | TIS | LET IT BE KNOWN THEY ARE MINE!!! |
| 22:19.59 | TIS | :P |
| 22:20.14 | Ahli | can I force cutscene editor to repopulate the file list? |
| 22:20.34 | Dustin|Work | save the map |
| 22:21.50 | Otixa | hits Sixen with a brick |
| 22:21.53 | Zolden | another wow guy sc2tized: http://snag.gy/mBfBj.jpg |
| 22:22.06 | Zolden | dunno what else it need to look prettier |
| 22:22.08 | TIS | TEAM COLOR IT |
| 22:22.11 | TIS | !!!! |
| 22:22.12 | TIS | :P |
| 22:22.20 | Zolden | u're dling max |
| 22:22.27 | TIS | Dloaded :P |
| 22:22.36 | Zolden | go team color everything you see |
| 22:22.37 | Otixa | Polygons, lol |
| 22:22.53 | Ahli | who brought snaggy into this irc channel? was it monka? |
| 22:23.00 | Zolden | hmm, intesting idea |
| 22:23.01 | TIS | Soooo what happens if I add a TON of alpha to your mother!!!!! |
| 22:23.10 | TIS | imma team color yo mamma zolden :P |
| 22:23.31 | Zolden | you need also set "render as team color" on for diffuse map |
| 22:24.10 | Otixa | Yo momma so fat her tris turned into n-gons |
| 22:25.08 | Ahli | first test of the knight... I bet it will look horrible and is broken... |
| 22:26.03 | Zolden | Ahli: screen! |
| 22:26.27 | *** join/#sc2mapster Thenarden (~Miranda@HSI-KBW-078-043-003-192.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 22:29.46 | Otixa | Blizz-Deletarius, get me a beta for HotS! :P |
| 22:29.52 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ahli (~casdasdqq@dslb-088-078-129-247.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:30.16 | Ahli | computer froze including sound output... |
| 22:30.28 | Ahli | while sc2 was loading map |
| 22:30.46 | Ahli | if that happens again, I guess it's the wow model :D |
| 22:31.41 | Saeris | gl with that otixa |
| 22:32.17 | Ahli | also, some irc channel highlighted me... but I don't know which one... :S |
| 22:32.47 | Blizz-Deletarius | Otixa, I would |
| 22:32.49 | Blizz-Deletarius | but |
| 22:33.00 | Blizz-Deletarius | and in fact I was just going to |
| 22:33.01 | Blizz-Deletarius | but |
| 22:33.10 | Blizz-Deletarius | you asked before I could give you it |
| 22:33.14 | Blizz-Deletarius | sorry :( |
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| 22:33.25 | Otixa | hits Blizz-Deletarius with a polygon |
| 22:33.36 | Blizz-Deletarius | a tri or a quad? |
| 22:33.46 | Otixa | With an n-gon! |
| 22:34.17 | Otixa | A non-convex one, at that |
| 22:34.49 | Otixa | resumes sculpting |
| 22:35.12 | TIS | lol |
| 22:35.14 | Otixa | Also, Zbrush has been really choppy lately ;/ |
| 22:38.13 | zlefin | hmmm |
| 22:38.52 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ahli (~casdasdqq@dslb-088-078-129-247.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:39.09 | Ahli | ok... 2/2 for freezing the OS with my map |
| 22:39.18 | Ahli | should I publish it? ;D |
| 22:39.36 | Ahli | Blizz-Deletarius: map freezes my whole OS |
| 22:40.16 | Ahli | when a specific model is created ingame (I think) |
| 22:41.15 | Otixa | I hate working with large subobject meshes >:| |
| 22:41.37 | Otixa | ...the things I do for steps... |
| 22:41.46 | TIS | Hmmm |
| 22:41.53 | TIS | Wish I could get my hands on a runling run map :P |
| 22:43.20 | Zolden | and freaky wow ling: http://snag.gy/8rFHS.jpg |
| 22:43.26 | Ahli | hmm, will it freeze if I look at the models in the cutscene editor |
| 22:43.46 | Otixa | Zolden, only ling accepted is a topling |
| 22:44.01 | zlefin | what do you think is the best map to test a change to encourage more skirmishing? |
| 22:44.10 | zlefin | and less turtling? |
| 22:44.21 | Zolden | this look like a bottomling |
| 22:44.33 | Otixa | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/SC2/ModCraft/modCraft_topling2.png |
| 22:44.35 | Otixa | :D |
| 22:45.03 | Ahli | hmm, I can look at each one of these... |
| 22:45.41 | Zolden | :) |
| 22:47.43 | Otixa | Zolden, make me something like this |
| 22:47.44 | Otixa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4eshdFCpOQ&feature=related |
| 22:47.45 | Otixa | gogo |
| 22:47.46 | zlefin | i'll use ohana unless someone has a better suggestion; as that map seems fairly turtly to me |
| 22:51.50 | Zolden | sounds like tango |
| 22:51.58 | Ahli | ok, test without attachment creation... hope it won't freeze |
| 22:53.56 | zlefin | i don't think i want to encourage people to engage in worker battles |
| 22:55.45 | zlefin | unless you guys think having early game worker battles would spice things up alot; overall i think people woudl rather not though; so I need to delay opening for a bit. |
| 22:56.12 | zlefin | i don't want to rely on the variance between races rock clearing speed; so i'll use some custom rocks i think |
| 22:56.33 | Dustin|Work | This guy ^..... |
| 22:56.43 | Dustin|Work | facepalms |
| 22:57.04 | TIS | PORN |
| 22:57.29 | TIS | imma kick dustin right in his uterus.... |
| 22:58.05 | Dustin|Work | jokes on you |
| 22:58.07 | Dustin|Work | I got 2 |
| 23:00.33 | TIS | lol |
| 23:00.54 | TIS | imma quit teasin everyone... and just do it |
| 23:01.00 | TITS | there |
| 23:01.07 | Dustin|Work | TITS MCGEE |
| 23:01.08 | TITS | lol |
| 23:01.22 | Dustin|Work | lol |
| 23:01.31 | Dustin|Work | With that, I head home :P |
| 23:01.37 | TITS|MCGEE | lawl |
| 23:03.23 | *** join/#sc2mapster zlefin (~zlefin@pool-173-48-173-195.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:04.56 | Ahli | so, the attachments work... marines are attached properly |
| 23:05.12 | Ahli | so one of my 4 new item models freezes it |
| 23:05.38 | Ahli | now this is like Russian roulette |
| 23:06.19 | Zolden | do you use rotation sops? |
| 23:09.07 | Ahli | no |
| 23:09.14 | Ahli | just attached model |
| 23:09.32 | Ahli | model frezes OS when it is created on the map |
| 23:09.55 | *** join/#sc2mapster Renee (c71e3333@gateway/web/freenode/ip.199.30.51.51) |
| 23:10.06 | TITS|MCGEE | hey renee |
| 23:10.18 | TITS|MCGEE | you caught the time when Deletarius was one :D |
| 23:11.06 | Renee | :) it's 7AM in China |
| 23:11.12 | TITS|MCGEE | :D |
| 23:11.19 | Renee | Glad i caught the time |
| 23:11.32 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 23:11.32 | Zolden | Renee is youtube blocked in china? |
| 23:11.45 | Renee | well, yes. |
| 23:11.49 | Zolden | god |
| 23:12.12 | Zolden | Renee so, that's why animated gifs are popular there? |
| 23:12.30 | Blizz-Deletarius | Hey Renee :) |
| 23:12.38 | Taintedwisp | Hey quite nice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTWUuxKlrtg&feature=g-all-u |
| 23:12.42 | Taintedwisp | too bad its in 2015 |
| 23:12.45 | Renee | this web irc is also blocked. I used some ssh proxy to get here |
| 23:12.59 | Blizz-Deletarius | ouch |
| 23:13.00 | Zolden | awful |
| 23:13.08 | Zolden | chinese community seems very advanced |
| 23:13.15 | Renee | Hey Deletarius |
| 23:13.23 | Blizz-Deletarius | yea a friend of mine in China says things along the same lines |
| 23:15.25 | Renee | I don't think animated gifs are so popular these days(they were popular once), we don't have youtube, but we have other local video sites. |
| 23:16.07 | Zolden | alright, at least something |
| 23:16.09 | Taintedwisp | Hey I still love Animated Gifs :P |
| 23:16.29 | Taintedwisp | Yo Blizz-Deletarius you see this :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmam9-aUQGg |
| 23:16.39 | Ahli | I think it's the helmet that causes the freeze |
| 23:16.42 | Zolden | Is there a Chinese version of mapster? |
| 23:17.48 | Renee | kind of, it's called Goblin Academy. it's the 'GA' in 'GAx3' |
| 23:18.10 | Zolden | because chinese doesn't look to be a frequent guests of mapsters, but every time they appear, they bring something cool |
| 23:18.25 | Zolden | oh, cool |
| 23:18.57 | Zolden | so, there you accumulate alll those knowledge to create GAx3 |
| 23:19.31 | Renee | Well, actually, I created this site. |
| 23:19.36 | Zolden | do you have chinese version of 3d max <-> editor model exporter? |
| 23:19.57 | Taintedwisp | All i know zolden is the koreans can export portraits.... |
| 23:19.57 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 23:19.57 | Zolden | Renee u're amazing then :) |
| 23:20.33 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: but we don't see any koreans on mapsters to talk about ;/ |
| 23:20.34 | Renee | it seems we don't have such a tools, we use the one on sc2mapster |
| 23:20.54 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:21.09 | Taintedwisp | Koreans I think have a different one, or atleast the models they make, make it seem like they do :P |
| 23:21.26 | Ahli | renee, should I use goblin academy as the page for the credit of your phasing technology? (I made the diablo 1 map that uses it... I recently saw the thread about my map on your forum ;D) |
| 23:21.41 | Taintedwisp | http://cafeptthumb4.phinf.naver.net/20101229_299/jaeil468_1293592092434Qdk0R_jpg/iron_jaeil468.jpg?type=w740] |
| 23:21.43 | Taintedwisp | ]http://cafeptthumb4.phinf.naver.net/20101229_299/jaeil468_1293592092434Qdk0R_jpg/iron_jaeil468.jpg?type=w740 |
| 23:22.16 | Renee | do it if you wish:) |
| 23:22.49 | Zolden | can I have a link to goblin academy? |
| 23:23.05 | Zolden | Ahli what's phasing technology? |
| 23:23.34 | Ahli | actors only visible for a certain players controllable via triggers... |
| 23:23.51 | Renee | s http://bbs.islga.org/ |
| 23:23.54 | Ahli | I use it to hide entrances from town to deeper dungeon levels and to hide unique item drops |
| 23:24.00 | Ahli | from other players |
| 23:24.06 | Ahli | and quest rewards |
| 23:24.09 | Zolden | oh, i see |
| 23:24.40 | Taintedwisp | HE IS IRON MAN!!!! |
| 23:24.41 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 23:25.03 | lefix | so, when trying to run my map in the hots editor, it says it cannot run because it's using dependencies that are no longer available. |
| 23:25.07 | Zolden | omg, hierogliphic stuff and browser doesn't suggest to translate ;/ |
| 23:25.17 | lefix | should i be worried? |
| 23:25.39 | Ahli | hots has no wol archives in it |
| 23:25.44 | Zolden | Ahli: how do you read goblin academy? |
| 23:25.50 | Ahli | google translate |
| 23:25.51 | lefix | is it going to on release? |
| 23:25.55 | Zolden | ok |
| 23:26.03 | Ahli | and then I try to make sense out of it :D |
| 23:26.04 | lefix | or will maps with wol dependencies no longer work in hots? |
| 23:26.31 | Renee | Actually, you can copy campain folder in to the hots beta client |
| 23:26.43 | Renee | so that the beta editor can use campaign mode |
| 23:26.47 | Renee | *Mod |
| 23:26.59 | Ahli | hots is an expansion and not standalone... on release players will have wol and hots archives (unless they delete one and never finish streaming) |
| 23:27.11 | Taintedwisp | Hey Blizz-Deletarius, would there be anything wrong with my using that iron man model? |
| 23:28.22 | Zolden | managed to improve wow ling, looks almost like the real ling now: http://snag.gy/Jyqi6.jpg |
| 23:28.50 | Renee | Nice, I can see this picture |
| 23:29.23 | Zolden | it's a cool site to copypaste pics http://snag.gy |
| 23:29.40 | Zolden | useful to fast share |
| 23:30.03 | Ahli | let's see if it's really the helmets fault. I might freeze and drop again :D |
| 23:30.03 | Taintedwisp | Imgr does it too :P |
| 23:30.09 | Taintedwisp | imgur |
| 23:30.32 | Zolden | Ahli a helmet freezes the whole system? |
| 23:30.43 | Ahli | helmet or shoulder pads |
| 23:30.48 | Zolden | omg |
| 23:32.54 | Blizz-Deletarius | what iron man model? |
| 23:33.31 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: your link doesn't work |
| 23:33.45 | Taintedwisp | http://cafeptthumb4.phinf.naver.net/20101229_299/jaeil468_1293592092434Qdk0R_jpg/iron_jaeil468.jpg?type=w740 |
| 23:33.51 | Renee | @Blizz-Deletarius: can I ask some questions about the hots editor? |
| 23:34.20 | Taintedwisp | it has fly and land animation and transform model :P |
| 23:34.51 | Blizz-Deletarius | doesn't work tainted |
| 23:34.55 | Blizz-Deletarius | Sure Renee - ask away |
| 23:36.10 | Renee | It seems I can't use the action 'Set Dialog Item Cutscene', it says this function is blizz-only, is this intended? |
| 23:37.08 | Blizz-Deletarius | that *sounds* wrong, but we're checking to make sure |
| 23:37.17 | Renee | thank you :) |
| 23:38.11 | Taintedwisp | dont know why it doesnt work gimme a sec :P heres a screenshot 0of the picture deletarius :P http://i.imgur.com/oZSXr.png |
| 23:38.43 | Blizz-Deletarius | Renee, could you please post about it on the forums? |
| 23:38.54 | Blizz-Deletarius | it's supposed to work, but we don't know why it wouldn't |
| 23:39.18 | Renee | ok, on the Custom Map forum or the Hots Beta forum? |
| 23:39.20 | Blizz-Deletarius | so we'll have QA look into it |
| 23:39.23 | Blizz-Deletarius | custom map |
| 23:39.28 | Renee | ok |
| 23:39.33 | Blizz-Deletarius | tainted |
| 23:39.39 | Blizz-Deletarius | I can't say whether or not you can use it |
| 23:39.43 | Blizz-Deletarius | sorry |
| 23:40.04 | Renee | I find this trigger action is setting the c_triggerControlPropertyFile property of the target dialog item. and this property is orginal used by the Flash dialog item. I can understand the flash is forbidden. But the cutscene seems be affacted |
| 23:40.53 | Otixa | guys |
| 23:40.56 | Otixa | quick vote |
| 23:41.00 | Otixa | Layout 1: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/Models/Layout1.jpg |
| 23:41.04 | Otixa | or Layout 2: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/Models/Layout2.jpg |
| 23:41.32 | Blizz-Deletarius | ahhhh |
| 23:41.38 | Saeris | 2's link is broken |
| 23:41.39 | Otixa | er |
| 23:41.45 | Otixa | Layout2: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/Models/Layout2.png |
| 23:41.59 | Blizz-Deletarius | ok, yea, that's not allowed...but we're checking as to what's up with that, hold on please |
| 23:42.06 | Zolden | Otixa: 2 i guess |
| 23:42.25 | Saeris | 2, but it depends on what you're using it for i guess |
| 23:42.30 | Blizz-Deletarius | layout 1 |
| 23:42.39 | Ahli | testing the model in an empty map now... I should freeze now, though |
| 23:42.47 | Saeris | not enough context |
| 23:42.50 | Otixa | scratches chin |
| 23:43.00 | Otixa | Saeris, it's basically a small chapel |
| 23:43.16 | Saeris | right, i get that. but what are you using it for? |
| 23:43.21 | Otixa | There'll be a stained glass window and a raised altar thing at the end |
| 23:43.26 | Zolden | if you need it to bake children, then more fires -> higher perfomance |
| 23:43.36 | Otixa | Uhh, nothing, really :P |
| 23:43.48 | Otixa | Uni assignment to make a Darksiders style iOS game |
| 23:44.34 | Saeris | in my opinion, for a game, it would be better to have a wider area to move around in, don't want it to get cramped |
| 23:44.40 | Ahli | hmmm... it doesn't freeze |
| 23:44.47 | Saeris | but it also depends how much more geometry you are going to put in there |
| 23:44.56 | Otixa | There's that too |
| 23:44.59 | Saeris | are there going to be benches? an altar? |
| 23:45.00 | Otixa | Got 100k tri limit |
| 23:45.06 | Otixa | Altar ye |
| 23:45.09 | Otixa | Prolly not benches |
| 23:45.28 | Renee | @Blizz-Deletarius: still didn't figure out which folder should the SC2Interface file be placed to, to make the gameplay option can select it. I guess it works like the add-ons in WoW? |
| 23:45.54 | Saeris | alright, seems a little out of place for a chapel then, that's my only concern there |
| 23:46.27 | Saeris | but again, depends on how you want your player to move through this environment |
| 23:46.38 | Blizz-Deletarius | Renee |
| 23:46.46 | Blizz-Deletarius | these are for observers only, you know that, right? |
| 23:46.50 | Blizz-Deletarius | and for watching replays |
| 23:46.51 | Renee | yes |
| 23:46.52 | Blizz-Deletarius | ok |
| 23:46.53 | Saeris | what would be the intended path for them to take? think about how you can use the environment to direct them |
| 23:46.54 | Otixa | Well, not much movement really. You go in, go up to the altar and you can run around there a bit |
| 23:47.00 | Blizz-Deletarius | look in your account folder |
| 23:47.13 | Otixa | I'll play around with it a bit more |
| 23:47.39 | Blizz-Deletarius | there should be folders called replays, saves, screenshots, etc |
| 23:47.40 | Renee | the one under \My Documents? |
| 23:47.45 | Blizz-Deletarius | yes |
| 23:47.48 | Renee | yes, I see it |
| 23:47.55 | Blizz-Deletarius | make a folder called Interfaces |
| 23:47.56 | Saeris | also if space becomes a concern, chandeliers may be better than the braziers you have there taking up floor space |
| 23:48.02 | Blizz-Deletarius | and place the sc2interface file in there |
| 23:48.16 | Renee | wow that's great, thank you :) |
| 23:48.20 | Blizz-Deletarius | yeap :) |
| 23:48.42 | Saeris | benches with a center isle would help in providing a guide towards the intended destination |
| 23:48.59 | Saeris | and prevent them from wandering aimlessly |
| 23:49.24 | Saeris | though I'm not sure if you intend for there to be any sort of combat in this room |
| 23:50.20 | Taintedwisp | bahhhh this is bugging the hell outta me.... |
| 23:50.49 | Taintedwisp | Not listed on the front page nor is it in the events... |
| 23:50.59 | Taintedwisp | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/data/46024-wde-25-showcase-and-beta-keys-what/#p7 |
| 23:52.19 | Ahli | hmm, editor is freezing because of the shoulder pads attached now |
| 23:52.29 | Ahli | out of memory, excellent |
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| 23:53.24 | Zolden | drug test? like do you smoke weed? |
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| 23:53.55 | Taintedwisp | no a drug test is something everyone takes for nearly every jobs these days |
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| 23:58.43 | Saeris | mmm, all of a sudden i've shown up 28 times in search results in the last 15 days on linkedin, weird |
| 23:59.57 | Bounty | anyone? lol |
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