| 00:00.14 | Taintedwisp | You know I noticed, EW didnt have any problems until i put a black man as my avatar... just saying!!! |
| 00:00.15 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 00:00.16 | Taintedwisp | jk |
| 00:06.26 | Taintedwisp | Well the site is completed, so now I just need to get my team signed up and whoever else so i can get them in the appropriate groups. |
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| 00:13.36 | Taintedwisp | hmm |
| 00:13.55 | Taintedwisp | Okay so site is created, Cybrok is working on the heroes.... what can i do..... |
| 00:16.23 | Zolden | smoke a joint and relax - that's what you can do |
| 00:17.57 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 00:19.15 | Otixa | hits Zolden with UVs |
| 00:20.43 | Otixa | Testbake tiems |
| 00:25.08 | Zolden | about baking: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bddPxI68K2c |
| 00:28.47 | Otixa | lol |
| 00:28.59 | Otixa | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 00:29.07 | Otixa | My Marmoset trial expired >:CCCCCCCCC |
| 00:32.49 | Zolden | alright, let's get out of here |
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| 00:43.48 | Ahli | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqmdG7dIzR0 |
| 00:50.39 | Otixa | :D |
| 00:55.25 | Taintedwisp | You know I have noticed something, thats the 2nd time I have changed my avatar to something Dave Chapelle and both times EW wants to call me out.... |
| 00:55.33 | Taintedwisp | Changing it back to my radioactive one. |
| 00:56.23 | Taintedwisp | Maybe he doesnt like Leonard Washington |
| 00:56.56 | Taintedwisp | Last time it was Leonard Washington... |
| 00:57.05 | Taintedwisp | THis time its Dave as his crack addicted friend.. :P |
| 01:06.59 | Taintedwisp | hahahahaah, damn... I let that guy off easy, the one i was being warned for... its a 20 something year old MLP fan with bad grammar, the Grammar i could let go.. but MLP.. damn if I hadnt already gotten a warning... |
| 01:13.42 | Taintedwisp | AHAHAHAHAHA |
| 01:13.42 | Taintedwisp | http://static.extratorrent.com/images/avatars/1353946691.gif |
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| 01:52.16 | Ahli | what's warp group in actors? |
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| 02:11.18 | Knor | Ahli, without Taintedwisp, my existence has no purpose. |
| 02:13.43 | Ahli | argh, player 0 has a lot of side effects it seems... I might have found a second one |
| 02:19.44 | Ahli | Giving Assimilators to a "neutral" player makes resource colors, that mineral fields have, on the minimap instead of player/team color. Creating a unit for player 0 makes attached actors to a unit not react on mouse hits (for highlighting) anymore. |
| 02:20.18 | Ahli | hmm, it's not the fault of player 0 specifically |
| 02:26.12 | Ahli | it only works, if the owner is the player that had the unit when it was spawned in triggers... |
| 02:35.19 | Ahli | sooooo, incontrol and anna prosser are now married |
| 02:38.37 | ________________ | lol he's fat |
| 02:45.46 | Otixa | Testing bakes without Marmoset is a fucking nightmare >;/ |
| 03:05.40 | Triceron | oh shit you actaully thought he was 11 |
| 03:05.50 | Triceron | I thought you were major trollin him |
| 03:36.23 | Ahli | damned, I keep forgetting the name of the actor debug display thing |
| 03:39.20 | Repo | New map: The Protoss Campaign - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/protoss-campaign/ |
| 03:39.27 | Ahli | actorinfodisplay was it |
| 03:46.56 | Repo | New announcement: Station Control - http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/station-control/ |
| 04:28.02 | Dustin | lol my beams are to long and get clipped |
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| 04:39.25 | DeadZergling | You there Ahli? |
| 04:40.39 | Ahli | yes, but tired and annoyed of this "bug" |
| 04:40.57 | DeadZergling | too tired for a experience bar UI question? |
| 04:41.07 | DeadZergling | which bug, the 2 minute save one? |
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| 04:43.02 | DeadZergling | anyways, I got horizontal health/mana bars working just fine, but I decided to go w/ a vertical design for my XP bar |
| 04:43.14 | DeadZergling | it looks great, only issue being it is filling up the wrong way |
| 04:43.20 | DeadZergling | filling up from the top rather than the bottom |
| 04:44.09 | Ahli | I'm using a dialog that contains the bar image for bars. One could use a panel instead of a dialog, too, I think. |
| 04:47.32 | DeadZergling | So, overlapping dialogs? |
| 04:49.14 | Ahli | you could just use a panel that contains the bar image and resize the panel |
| 04:49.38 | Ahli | I never tried that, but it should work |
| 04:49.47 | DeadZergling | yea, trying to locate where the make panel is |
| 04:54.05 | DeadZergling | shows me how to create a dialog item in a panel, but not a panel |
| 04:54.22 | DeadZergling | panels aren't some hots thing, they sound like a groupbox or something |
| 04:58.58 | Ahli | create dialog item might have it in its list |
| 05:00.44 | DeadZergling | yea there it is, was hidden well enough |
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| 14:28.14 | Dustin|Work | mornin |
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| 14:50.34 | DeadZergling | morning dustin, remind me not to want a vertical experience bar ever again |
| 14:50.45 | Zolden | Dustin|Work: why the fuck is everybody using day stage related greetings in international chat? it's not motherfucking morining At 90% of the planet! :)) |
| 14:50.51 | DeadZergling | is significantly more painful than a horizontal one, lol |
| 14:51.32 | DeadZergling | oh that's easy zolden |
| 14:51.42 | DeadZergling | americans get to be ignorant of the rest of the world |
| 14:51.51 | DeadZergling | don't care what's going on for yall, morning for us! |
| 14:52.06 | Zolden | :)) |
| 14:52.06 | DeadZergling | how goes the map btw Zolden? |
| 14:52.26 | Dustin|Work | Cause it's morning to me :D |
| 14:53.12 | Zolden | DeadZergling: tried to use simple image scale for verticla bar? |
| 14:53.25 | Zolden | map's progressing fast |
| 14:53.40 | DeadZergling | of course I did zolden |
| 14:53.44 | DeadZergling | it had an issue |
| 14:53.52 | DeadZergling | it filled in from the top, not the bottom |
| 14:54.38 | Zolden | image mode?well, u just set image x, y, sx, dy, and image just fills the image space |
| 14:55.01 | Zolden | or mode even doesn't matter |
| 14:55.03 | DeadZergling | so got to use a combination of a separate dialog, image, and fun with offsets/dialog size modes |
| 14:55.22 | DeadZergling | that'd work if it were a simpler bar |
| 14:55.26 | Zolden | yeah, it may be mind raping |
| 14:55.28 | DeadZergling | I decided on a little more complex design |
| 14:55.59 | DeadZergling | is more of an eggshape |
| 14:56.21 | DeadZergling | but anyways, got those set up finally |
| 14:56.23 | Zolden | well, at least you're trying to do a complicadet stuff, it's better then doing boring data stuff |
| 14:56.36 | DeadZergling | is a bad habit of mine |
| 14:56.43 | Zolden | i think i did open list-pick item operation like 500 times yesterday |
| 14:56.43 | DeadZergling | dive into nothing but complicated hard to do stuff |
| 14:57.01 | DeadZergling | and never give myself time to do monotonous has to be done stuff |
| 14:57.09 | Zolden | :)) |
| 14:57.19 | Zolden | because complex crap is exiting |
| 14:57.33 | DeadZergling | yes, it is exiting, and exciting |
| 14:57.42 | DeadZergling | exiting because you have to exit out of sc2 like 20 times |
| 14:57.46 | DeadZergling | to make it work |
| 14:57.48 | Zolden | lol |
| 14:58.15 | DeadZergling | anyways, after I had the formula down |
| 14:58.18 | DeadZergling | I had to tweak it |
| 14:58.35 | DeadZergling | to account for the fancy bracket widths |
| 14:59.00 | DeadZergling | otherwise 0-10 % and 90-100 % looked pretty bad |
| 14:59.33 | DeadZergling | results are worth it though, now all my players get nice health/energy/exp bars to look at |
| 14:59.36 | Zolden | maybe a screen? |
| 14:59.39 | DeadZergling | whenever they play |
| 15:00.00 | DeadZergling | eh, screenshot? |
| 15:01.01 | DeadZergling | give me a bit, will PM you one |
| 15:01.37 | DeadZergling | funner screenshot might be one of the code to make it all work |
| 15:01.38 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 15:02.04 | Zolden | hope u use http://snag.gy/, it's the easies way to share pics |
| 15:02.14 | Zolden | yeah, show me the code |
| 15:03.28 | DeadZergling | didn't work, that site |
| 15:03.33 | DeadZergling | my sc2 is all black |
| 15:03.53 | Zolden | ctrl+print screen the screen, then ctrl+v to the site |
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| 15:08.18 | DeadZergling | screw it, I'll try that site next time, lol |
| 15:08.19 | DeadZergling | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/33/689/Screenshot2012-12-03_07_02_26.jpg |
| 15:09.31 | Zolden | yeah, look pretty |
| 15:09.46 | DeadZergling | tooltips have exact values too |
| 15:09.54 | DeadZergling | I decided it was best to keep the labels simple |
| 15:10.26 | DeadZergling | extra space below is for buff icons later |
| 15:10.32 | DeadZergling | so people can remove beneficial buffs if they want to |
| 15:10.44 | Zolden | u sure you need the square border of the didalog? |
| 15:11.03 | DeadZergling | maybe, maybe not |
| 15:11.09 | DeadZergling | i see what you mean |
| 15:11.25 | DeadZergling | might look better without one at all huh? |
| 15:11.56 | DeadZergling | im on the ropes about it, since I let them minimize those if they want to |
| 15:12.37 | DeadZergling | guess I'll start on the buff icons tommorrow if i got time |
| 15:12.47 | DeadZergling | gonna try to catch a couple hours sleep before work in 3 hours |
| 15:12.52 | DeadZergling | see you later Z :) |
| 15:12.58 | Zolden | cya |
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| 15:39.12 | zenxu | Blizz-deletarius: hey |
| 15:39.38 | zenxu | is it possible to global publish maps without some sort of trick? |
| 15:41.21 | duckies | of course it's possible, it's just in order to do so you need to become (starcraft price x 4) $$ poorer :l |
| 15:41.25 | duckies | or get featured |
| 15:41.29 | duckies | or wait for hots |
| 15:41.30 | duckies | :D |
| 15:43.37 | zenxu | aww man |
| 15:43.50 | zenxu | I just felt like I should try how NA accepts me :( |
| 15:44.08 | zenxu | no biggie thou, still plenty of work before next release |
| 15:44.19 | duckies | so, are you back? :D |
| 15:44.31 | zenxu | well back as in |
| 15:44.36 | zenxu | I do some mapping every now and then |
| 15:45.00 | zenxu | but not sure if I have motivation to do much |
| 15:45.03 | zenxu | just a little bit |
| 15:45.12 | Dustin|Work | What map you working on zenxu |
| 15:45.20 | zenxu | magic rpg |
| 15:46.37 | Dustin|Work | cools |
| 15:47.01 | zenxu | Im sorta aiming to make the magic city are working |
| 15:47.05 | zenxu | for next test |
| 15:47.15 | zenxu | and to finalize the rpg I would need like 2 more major areas |
| 15:47.18 | zenxu | then it would be complete |
| 15:47.28 | zenxu | so Its like 1/4th ready I suppose |
| 15:49.16 | duckies | you should do something different |
| 15:49.30 | duckies | do a minigame for that minigame project for example :D |
| 15:51.35 | zenxu | noo I actually just feel more motivated to work towards finishing this |
| 15:53.21 | duckies | eeh, so mapster is giving out hots beta keys as a rewards for all sorts of terrain/trigger/data/UI assets.. |
| 15:53.43 | zenxu | I like idea of community project btw |
| 15:53.53 | zenxu | but I think the quality just wont be as good as I would like it to be |
| 15:54.01 | duckies | making assets that nobody will probably use feels so uninspired, should have better went with something like minigame contest :/ |
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| 15:54.21 | Repo | New announcement: HOTS Beta key contest - WTE #107 - http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/hots-beta-key-contest-wte-107/ |
| 15:54.25 | duckies | point me to a community project that succeeded : |
| 15:54.29 | duckies | :/ |
| 15:55.13 | zenxu | its just hard to attract talent to those things |
| 15:56.06 | Dryeyece | Grrr, anyone know how to prevent abilities from sending the error alert "Not Enough Energy", when trying to cast an ability with too little energy? |
| 15:56.21 | duckies | @zenxu and thus it fails, one after another |
| 15:56.49 | duckies | only way I can think of is removing that sound :D |
| 15:56.57 | duckies | *muting |
| 15:57.09 | Dryeyece | i cant even find the sound lol, I think it might be hard coded in |
| 15:57.18 | Dustin|Work | I think the abilities have an option to not send an error alert |
| 15:57.37 | Dryeyece | hrmm, maybe its in the game ui data |
| 15:57.40 | Dustin|Work | Or to specificy which error alert to send and you can set it to nothing |
| 15:57.50 | Dryeyece | I thought so too |
| 15:57.59 | Dryeyece | its effects tied to the abilities that have the alerts field |
| 15:59.07 | Dustin|Work | Hmmm |
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| 15:59.35 | duckies | I don't know, I typed "energy" into sounds data tab and first thing it gave to me were energy alerts sounds for each race.. though it's probably not what you'd want to do in the end |
| 16:00.18 | zenxu | so how many minigames you got thus far? |
| 16:00.57 | zenxu | I could rip off my rock slicing minigame for you if I wasnt so lazy :D |
| 16:01.02 | zenxu | it sucks in multi thou |
| 16:01.05 | zenxu | cause the delay |
| 16:01.37 | duckies | they said they have 6 so far, with goa being only outsider that contributed. I still haven't decided on what I'm gonna add if I'm gonna do anything at all |
| 16:01.48 | duckies | silly zenxu, that's not my project :D |
| 16:02.09 | zenxu | oh |
| 16:02.10 | zenxu | :/ |
| 16:02.47 | duckies | ah btw, bomber got featured, so if you want to blow up some newbies, now is the time to do it, while they still play :D |
| 16:03.00 | Dustin|Work | I played it the other day |
| 16:03.09 | Dustin|Work | Was fun |
| 16:03.37 | duckies | that's good :D |
| 16:03.48 | Dryeyece | lol I wasnt in the sound tab I was in the actors tab |
| 16:03.54 | zenxu | so is it like super popular now? |
| 16:03.57 | Dryeyece | I do that all the time because I hardly ever go into the sounds tab |
| 16:04.13 | Dustin|Work | Yeah I always get my tabs mixed up when im working fast |
| 16:04.18 | zenxu | and whats up with you didnt change the name. It sounded so weird to me that you couldnt get featured with that name |
| 16:04.43 | Dustin|Work | 'I swear to god I just made a new actor action...oh I'm on models, fuck' |
| 16:04.43 | Dryeyece | I would rather be able to change the sound locally on the ability 8( |
| 16:04.53 | duckies | zenxu, I don't know, I usually just play with goa because I can't bear playing with ppl who just kill each other while I afk and win by default :| |
| 16:04.54 | Dryeyece | lol |
| 16:05.52 | zenxu | mm yes most people must suck indeed |
| 16:06.01 | zenxu | but you can check most played tab |
| 16:06.05 | zenxu | to see how its doin |
| 16:06.05 | Dustin|Work | They wouldn't feature you for having the name Bomberbot? |
| 16:06.10 | zenxu | data is always nice |
| 16:06.14 | zenxu | meaning |
| 16:06.26 | zenxu | data of how well map does atter featured and stuff like that |
| 16:06.31 | zenxu | not the actual data editor |
| 16:06.44 | duckies | ah, yeah, they were uncomfortable with "bomber" in the name |
| 16:06.50 | Dustin|Work | Uh what |
| 16:06.53 | zenxu | thats so ridiculous |
| 16:06.59 | zenxu | did you actually have to change the name? |
| 16:07.03 | duckies | #13 played |
| 16:07.07 | zenxu | nice |
| 16:07.11 | zenxu | almost page 1 then |
| 16:07.18 | Dustin|Work | How can someone be uncomfortable with the name bomber |
| 16:07.22 | duckies | it'll drop down eventually |
| 16:07.32 | Dustin|Work | When you have a map made by your company called Left 2 Die |
| 16:07.43 | zenxu | hahah |
| 16:07.44 | zenxu | yea :D |
| 16:07.48 | zenxu | thats a good point |
| 16:08.08 | duckies | they said their legal team was uncomfortable with too many similarities >.>.. I don't even want to know.. |
| 16:08.11 | Dryeyece | Terrorists never used a left 2 die laying next to a car that blew up half a city block |
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| 16:08.59 | Dustin|Work | So if I name my map Razorblade Battle |
| 16:09.09 | Dryeyece | We have a game mode named Bomberman, I hope they dont get their panties in a twist over that,... |
| 16:09.19 | Dustin|Work | Because terrorsits attacked people with them at one point the map is probably going to make them feel 'uncomfortable' |
| 16:09.44 | Dryeyece | Dunno Im just throwin theories out there 8-) |
| 16:09.53 | duckies | =P |
| 16:13.21 | Zolden | so, if I want to make a jump between cliff layers, i need to change unit's mover while he's in flight? |
| 16:14.33 | duckies | I'd go with make unit launch itself as a missile, which is basically what you've just said, so yes :D |
| 16:15.54 | Zolden | yeah, it's even better |
| 16:16.18 | Zolden | but how? is there "launch a unit as a missile" ability? |
| 16:16.25 | Blizz-deletarius | morning everyone |
| 16:17.03 | Blizz-deletarius | Duckies, you did Bomberbot? |
| 16:17.20 | duckies | yeah dele |
| 16:17.21 | zenxu | deletarius |
| 16:17.26 | Blizz-deletarius | it's a fun map :) |
| 16:17.27 | zenxu | GRANT ME ACCES TO OTHER REGIONS! |
| 16:17.34 | Blizz-deletarius | zenxu, ok |
| 16:17.35 | duckies | thanks |
| 16:17.39 | zenxu | I WANT MAH SEED TO BE SPREAD TO ALL OVER THE WORLD |
| 16:17.49 | Blizz-deletarius | buy other copies of the game ;) |
| 16:17.54 | zenxu | omfg |
| 16:17.59 | zenxu | you greedy bastard |
| 16:18.09 | zenxu | but seriosly I would like to try NA |
| 16:18.11 | Blizz-deletarius | hey buddy, I had to do it for KR when I wanted access to the KR realms |
| 16:18.11 | zenxu | publish stuff |
| 16:18.18 | Blizz-deletarius | server* |
| 16:18.26 | duckies | I can upload it for you burne |
| 16:18.42 | ErikI | Blizz-deletarius, I don't know if this has been asked already, but will global play in HotS mean global publishing as well? |
| 16:18.45 | duckies | even though it'll become irrelevant in 6 months |
| 16:19.03 | zenxu | mmm :( I would like my acces thou |
| 16:19.11 | Blizz-deletarius | ErikI, I'm not sure if it has been, however I can't say 1 way or the other |
| 16:19.11 | zenxu | Blizz-deletarius: you know my map was 12th played for a while :( |
| 16:19.20 | Blizz-deletarius | oh? which one was that? |
| 16:19.29 | Blizz-deletarius | <-doesn't get a lot of time to play customs :( |
| 16:19.30 | zenxu | a sec |
| 16:19.46 | duckies | especially on a europe i bet :p |
| 16:20.01 | duckies | *an -.- |
| 16:20.06 | Blizz-deletarius | well, I haven't played any customs on europe, and it's my least played ladder account as well |
| 16:20.20 | Blizz-deletarius | <-4 sc2 accounts |
| 16:20.31 | zenxu | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/general-chat/45703-hi-i-am-buu-ghost-and-i-have-no-friends/#p4 |
| 16:20.35 | Blizz-deletarius | 1 NA, 1 EU, 2 KR |
| 16:21.01 | zenxu | deletarius there is proof |
| 16:21.11 | zenxu | :D |
| 16:21.12 | Blizz-deletarius | MagicRPG Alpha? |
| 16:21.17 | zenxu | yes |
| 16:21.20 | Blizz-deletarius | oh cool |
| 16:21.22 | Blizz-deletarius | grats :) |
| 16:21.23 | zenxu | Im such shameless promoter :D |
| 16:21.35 | zenxu | its not published now btw |
| 16:21.36 | Blizz-deletarius | I have a few custom maps which aren't 100% |
| 16:21.44 | zenxu | but I wan my acces so I can host next test on NA too |
| 16:21.51 | Blizz-deletarius | but it'd be cool to see how high they got on the list |
| 16:22.19 | Blizz-deletarius | as well as a 1v1 melee map |
| 16:22.29 | zenxu | so you only get acces to other regions if you get featured ? |
| 16:22.32 | zenxu | ;( |
| 16:22.39 | zenxu | I was hoping I could convince you |
| 16:22.39 | Blizz-deletarius | I never said that |
| 16:22.54 | zenxu | you said you need to buy copy |
| 16:22.55 | zenxu | :( |
| 16:26.07 | Blizz-deletarius | no I meant the whole featuring thing = getting access |
| 16:26.55 | zenxu | well give me my acces :( |
| 16:33.04 | G0A | :D |
| 16:33.20 | G0A | No zenxu, we need the maximum of profit out you:D |
| 16:33.30 | zenxu | :( |
| 16:33.57 | Blizz-deletarius | is the sale still going on for copies of the game? |
| 16:34.05 | Blizz-deletarius | cause it was just on sale for like $20 |
| 16:34.11 | Blizz-deletarius | for over a week |
| 16:34.54 | zenxu | PHAH |
| 16:34.56 | G0A | thats 20$ more money that I would pay for it to publish or play on another server |
| 16:35.05 | Blizz-deletarius | well there you go |
| 16:35.17 | zenxu | I would rather buy a whore than buy another copy of wol |
| 16:35.22 | Blizz-deletarius | heh |
| 16:35.37 | Blizz-deletarius | I had to pay I think $45 or $43 for my first KR account |
| 16:36.51 | Zolden | guys, do you remember, what validator could check if a unit is moving |
| 16:36.52 | zenxu | pretty weird for blizz staff to have to pay for that |
| 16:37.36 | duckies | unit compare speed zolden |
| 16:37.46 | G0A | Blizz-deletarius does Blizz have any plan to support faster connection for fps like maps? (or maps that generally need fast response) |
| 16:37.50 | duckies | there is a default example called "not moving" |
| 16:38.01 | Zolden | oh |
| 16:38.02 | Dustin|Work | GOA |
| 16:38.03 | Dustin|Work | No |
| 16:38.03 | Zolden | ok |
| 16:38.12 | Dustin|Work | You don't have to be a blizzard rep to know that :P |
| 16:38.13 | Blizz-deletarius | g0a, no comment |
| 16:38.37 | G0A | I am just always hoping for the best.D |
| 16:38.57 | G0A | It would be fun to make an fps map |
| 16:38.58 | ErikI | Blizz-deletarius, bigger map size? Please? Pretty please? |
| 16:39.18 | Blizz-deletarius | no comment |
| 16:39.32 | ErikI | Okay, no problem |
| 16:39.44 | zenxu | loading maps faster deletarius pls? |
| 16:39.46 | duckies | I don't belive you G0A, I think you're just amusing myself by forcing most predictable answers from blizz :D |
| 16:39.56 | Zolden | lol |
| 16:40.08 | zenxu | duckies you published your maps on hots? |
| 16:40.18 | zenxu | umm is there any difference on poublishin there? |
| 16:40.23 | duckies | what hots? there is no arcade in there yet |
| 16:40.28 | zenxu | oh |
| 16:40.32 | duckies | yeah >.> |
| 16:40.32 | G0A | yeah duckies you read my mind:D |
| 16:40.36 | Dustin|Work | Yeah its just melee mp |
| 16:50.10 | zenxu | allrighty |
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| 16:50.17 | zenxu | finally made new unit AI |
| 16:50.29 | zenxu | some actual progress finally |
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| 16:54.18 | Ahli | Blizz-deletarius: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/5966868968 also, I can make actors that have spheres that react to the mouse hover (mouse hit) that somehow only work, if the unit is owned by the same player that owned the unit when that actor was attached to the unit... |
| 16:55.21 | Ahli | so, create unit for p2, actors is created, mouse hit test works. Unit is given to p3, mouse hit zone stops working. Unit is given back to p2, mouse hit zone works again. |
| 16:56.25 | Ahli | I only deactivated mouse hit test for the unit's actor and added an invisible sphere model to the unit on UnitCreation actor event. |
| 16:56.57 | Ahli | I'm not sure if that is a bug, but it's strange |
| 17:00.39 | Blizz-deletarius | interesting |
| 17:04.49 | ThunderLord | Hey Helral, i know that you couldent get those layout files 100% working, but did you geth them in the right position atleast? and if u did can u copy past me the layout file? |
| 17:05.28 | ThunderLord | Cuz i am totally aweful with layout files lol |
| 17:05.39 | ThunderLord | but i think i can attach them to a dialog like you said |
| 17:09.38 | Ahli | my workaround for that: destroying the actor on owner change event with a status check. Then I recreate the actor on owner change event and run a timer with 1 frame delay that sets the status to the value that is checked in the status check. |
| 17:10.39 | Ahli | without the timer it destroys itself immediatly :S |
| 17:17.04 | Bibendus | ahli |
| 17:17.07 | Bibendus | is that sphere transparent? |
| 17:17.29 | Bibendus | and in that case, did u try to make it visible for testing purpose? |
| 17:18.48 | Ahli | I set it to be invisible via opacity. Its opacity shouldn't matter. The actor is still existing. |
| 17:19.06 | Bibendus | I know |
| 17:19.11 | Bibendus | but it matters for testing purposes :P |
| 17:19.17 | Bibendus | u made it invisible |
| 17:19.22 | Bibendus | then u think it's still there but it's not |
| 17:19.26 | Bibendus | when players change ;) |
| 17:19.45 | Bibendus | make it visible and test again |
| 17:19.49 | Ahli | "ActorInfoDisplay" |
| 17:19.51 | Bibendus | if the sphere is still present when u switch |
| 17:19.54 | Ahli | best cheat ever |
| 17:20.03 | Bibendus | and? |
| 17:20.03 | Bibendus | :D |
| 17:20.11 | Ahli | it shows me the actors below my mouse cursor area |
| 17:20.22 | Bibendus | but it's an attachment |
| 17:20.30 | Bibendus | not a main actor |
| 17:20.33 | Bibendus | does it still work? |
| 17:20.48 | Ahli | it's there and that's how I noticed that my first fix created duplicated actors. |
| 17:20.59 | Ahli | it shows you everything you need to know about the actor |
| 17:21.13 | Bibendus | still |
| 17:21.15 | Bibendus | try to make it visible |
| 17:21.16 | Bibendus | temporary |
| 17:21.17 | Ahli | animation, animation group, other actors that are connected with it like sounds, attachments |
| 17:21.20 | Bibendus | to test if it's still there :P |
| 17:21.31 | Bibendus | cuz I m using an attached sphere |
| 17:21.32 | Ahli | testing that costs 5 minutes of my life |
| 17:21.37 | Bibendus | to improve mouse click to grab units in hive keeper |
| 17:22.12 | Ahli | my map has that saving problem... :S I dislike working on it atm |
| 17:22.22 | Bibendus | wut saving problem |
| 17:22.33 | Ahli | my map takes 2.5 minutes to save |
| 17:23.05 | Bibendus | sbrofl |
| 17:27.35 | Dustin|Work | Bibendus, hows hivekeeper goin |
| 17:27.41 | Bibendus | slowly |
| 17:27.44 | Bibendus | i hate uis |
| 17:27.46 | Bibendus | UIs |
| 17:27.57 | Dustin|Work | Yeah UI's are a bitch |
| 17:28.20 | Bibendus | now I have a weird AI bug to fix |
| 17:28.31 | Bibendus | that wasted hours of my time already |
| 17:28.49 | Bibendus | and another weird thing related to walls textures not showing on my laptop at a certain graphical setting |
| 17:29.03 | Bibendus | but showing on my PC with same settings it seems |
| 17:29.41 | Dustin|Work | That's super weird |
| 17:31.10 | Bibendus | y |
| 17:31.17 | Bibendus | now I have to check exactly the settings on my laptop |
| 17:31.29 | Bibendus | when textures are not shown I see nice pinky tiles |
| 17:31.37 | Bibendus | cuz I have a red layer on them for player color |
| 17:31.37 | Bibendus | :P |
| 17:31.43 | Bibendus | they look quite weird |
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| 17:31.55 | Ahli | nonononooo, UI is awesome |
| 17:32.10 | Bibendus | it's fucking slow |
| 17:32.11 | Bibendus | to do |
| 17:32.18 | Bibendus | and i m talking about dynamic moving UI |
| 17:32.28 | Bibendus | with shitty arrows |
| 17:32.31 | Bibendus | to move the thing |
| 17:32.47 | Bibendus | oh and the wonderful fact |
| 17:32.54 | Bibendus | I blame Blizz-deletarius that works on UIs |
| 17:32.57 | Bibendus | :P |
| 17:33.17 | Bibendus | wonderful fact that I can't relate a dialog to another one |
| 17:33.19 | Bibendus | by trigger |
| 17:33.25 | Bibendus | so that if one moves the other follows |
| 17:33.32 | Bibendus | so I have to use dialog items related |
| 17:33.52 | Bibendus | but then I can't use hide dialog to hide all it's content |
| 17:34.00 | Bibendus | so I have to hide all the dialog items one by one |
| 17:34.54 | Bibendus | and the thing is even more complicated because the editor doesn't support dynamic list variables :| |
| 17:35.18 | Dustin|Work | Hmmm |
| 17:35.53 | Dustin|Work | Why are you using arrows to move it |
| 17:35.58 | Dustin|Work | Should just use click drag |
| 17:36.02 | Bibendus | because I have a list of creatures box |
| 17:36.10 | Bibendus | that shows the amount for each creature |
| 17:36.13 | Bibendus | and allows you to pick them |
| 17:36.19 | Bibendus | however there are a lot of creature types |
| 17:36.25 | Bibendus | so I can't show all of them |
| 17:36.33 | Bibendus | and I need arrows to navigate through the list |
| 17:36.57 | Dustin|Work | Oh, I thought you were moving the dialog box by having them click some arrows |
| 17:37.25 | Bibendus | i m actually moving a dialog item |
| 17:37.28 | Bibendus | inside a dialog |
| 17:37.36 | Dustin|Work | ahh |
| 17:37.46 | Bibendus | the dialog item is like a snake |
| 17:37.53 | Bibendus | of dialog items attached to the next one |
| 17:38.06 | Bibendus | while the dialog is used as frame to hide the exceding part |
| 17:38.20 | Dustin|Work | take a ss of what you got so far, cause this sounds confusing :P |
| 17:38.24 | Bibendus | else I would have needed to manually hide and show dialog items everytime they were out |
| 17:39.20 | Bibendus | http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/l/375866-dungeon-keeper-2-windows-screenshot-your-minions-help-generate.jpg |
| 17:39.27 | Bibendus | this is what i m doin |
| 17:39.31 | Bibendus | what I did actually |
| 17:42.03 | Dryeyece | that looks nice bibe |
| 17:42.12 | Bibendus | it's dungeon keeper |
| 17:42.12 | Bibendus | xD |
| 17:42.19 | Bibendus | not my map |
| 17:43.20 | Dustin|Work | Yeah at first I was like, jesus ,you've got this looking just like DK! then I realized it WAS DK lol |
| 17:43.33 | Bibendus | xD |
| 17:43.44 | Bibendus | http://imageshack.us/a/img838/7530/screenshot2012100716314.jpg |
| 17:43.46 | Bibendus | btw this |
| 17:43.58 | Bibendus | was an early beta of the bar |
| 17:44.07 | Bibendus | now it properly works and shows the amount of creatures |
| 17:44.13 | Bibendus | and I had to place it on top |
| 17:44.19 | Bibendus | until I remake the whole UI |
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| 17:45.13 | Dustin|Work | very cool |
| 17:45.41 | Bibendus | it was a pain in the ass |
| 17:45.48 | Bibendus | everytime I hide a dialog |
| 17:45.49 | Dustin|Work | Oh Im sure :P |
| 17:45.59 | Bibendus | I have to attach the next dialog to the previous one |
| 17:46.09 | Bibendus | so no empty spaces are shown |
| 17:46.28 | Bibendus | oh btw |
| 17:46.43 | Bibendus | if u like dungeon keeper support this |
| 17:46.44 | Bibendus | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/subterraneangames/war-for-the-overworld |
| 17:46.51 | Bibendus | there is a playable showcase too :P |
| 17:46.56 | Bibendus | unity rulez |
| 17:47.26 | Dustin|Work | This looks nice |
| 17:47.37 | Dustin|Work | I've been thinking about using Unity |
| 17:47.56 | Dustin|Work | After I get my current SC2 map done Im going to switch over I think |
| 17:48.06 | Bibendus | let's make a game :D |
| 17:48.44 | Dustin|Work | I'm down :D Been wanting to for awhile, but I can't bring my self to start a full title by myself |
| 17:48.51 | Zolden | duckies: yeah, launching unit worked :) |
| 17:50.00 | Zolden | jumps so funny |
| 17:51.35 | Dustin|Work | Anyone here had any problems with making your beam to long? |
| 17:52.08 | Zolden | Dustin what beam model do you use |
| 17:52.46 | Dustin|Work | It's the Sentry beam |
| 17:52.59 | Zolden | how long u try to make it? |
| 17:53.25 | Zolden | tried other models? |
| 17:53.28 | Dustin|Work | It's probably like 40 range |
| 17:53.30 | Zolden | tried change model's scale? |
| 17:53.42 | Dustin|Work | Haven't tried other models yet, going to do that otnight |
| 17:54.10 | Dustin|Work | It shows, but only if you're looking at the beginning of the beam, if you scroll along the length it'll just disappear |
| 17:54.29 | Zolden | oh, haven't Ahli fixed it? |
| 17:54.42 | Zolden | he's been diggin into this problems days ago |
| 17:55.02 | Zolden | drill turret from campaign doesn' seem to have this issue |
| 17:55.11 | Zolden | so, maybe look into it |
| 17:55.29 | Ahli | the beam is rendered only when the launch location is near the screen |
| 17:55.47 | Zolden | I have the same problem with too tall building ;/ |
| 17:55.59 | Dustin|Work | Oh actually |
| 17:56.03 | Dustin|Work | That might be the problem |
| 17:56.05 | Ahli | if you have a beam from the sky, you need to change launch and impact locations... |
| 17:56.08 | Dustin|Work | Cause it's attacking a really big guy |
| 17:56.50 | Dustin|Work | Hmm |
| 17:57.18 | Dustin|Work | Well my launch location is the units center, it's pretty low to the ground, but it fires up pretty high to hit the Tall unit |
| 17:58.56 | Zolden | height doesn't matter I guess, my problem with tall building only esists because when its bottom is out of sight, roof still visible, but isnt rendered |
| 17:59.01 | Zolden | lemme check colossus |
| 17:59.48 | Zolden | yea, colossus has this problem |
| 17:59.50 | Dustin|Work | ahhh |
| 17:59.55 | Zolden | atl east my remake of his beam :) |
| 18:00.07 | Dustin|Work | I'll have to fuck with it tonight |
| 18:00.55 | Zolden | oh, interesting |
| 18:01.06 | Zolden | the real olossus hasn't this issue |
| 18:01.13 | Dustin|Work | weird |
| 18:03.23 | Zolden | interesting |
| 18:03.34 | Zolden | colossus somehow solves this problem |
| 18:03.39 | Zolden | for his attack range |
| 18:03.46 | Zolden | increased it 6->12 |
| 18:03.53 | Zolden | and the problem appeared again |
| 18:04.03 | Zolden | it was realy far from the screen |
| 18:04.35 | Zolden | so, there is a workaround, and it's somwhere in colossus and in the drill turret |
| 18:04.44 | Zolden | if you find it - let us know pls |
| 18:12.18 | EnexyNunu | anyone working on a distance render library by any chance? |
| 18:12.30 | EnexyNunu | As in, rendering objects at a set distance to increase FPS? |
| 18:13.09 | EnexyNunu | Also, are things that are not "visible" to the user still rendered and use up FPS? Or will it not? |
| 18:13.14 | ThunderLord | Hey i have this special ability on one unit that is a variant on Attack Move, I need to make it so that whenever an attack move issue is issued to the group, this unit should execute the attack move variant |
| 18:13.30 | ThunderLord | i tried setting the ID on attack and the variant to "Attack" but it had no effect |
| 18:14.02 | Ahli | sooo, I think I finished my tetris game for that minigame map |
| 18:15.30 | A1win | ThunderLord, a unit can only have one Attack type ability |
| 18:15.42 | ThunderLord | yeh yeah |
| 18:15.46 | A1win | oh right, dunno |
| 18:15.52 | ThunderLord | he has a differant type of attack |
| 18:15.54 | ThunderLord | so like |
| 18:16.00 | ThunderLord | There is regular attack, on all units |
| 18:16.17 | A1win | yeah I think I got it, just dunno how to fix it |
| 18:16.43 | ThunderLord | and this special unit, has an "attack move" and an "Attack 2", "Attack Move" executes a trigger to handle attack move for that unit, and "Attack 2" is just a clone of attack with a differant ID String |
| 18:18.13 | Zolden | Ahli: is it cool? |
| 18:18.21 | Zolden | is it wasd? |
| 18:18.26 | Zolden | can i beat you in it? |
| 18:18.28 | Ahli | arrow keys and space |
| 18:18.36 | Ahli | I didn't test it online |
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| 18:19.45 | ThunderLord | is "Scan Move" in the move ability the same as attack moving? |
| 18:19.51 | Zolden | when i was a kid i won moscow tetris championship |
| 18:20.51 | Zolden | Ahli: waht model do you use as tetris bricks? |
| 18:21.56 | Ahli | dialog item |
| 18:22.19 | Ahli | I made it for the dialog minigame trigger challenge |
| 18:22.23 | Ahli | 2 months ago |
| 18:23.05 | Zolden | oh, i see |
| 18:27.47 | Zolden | can I make the green selection circle - invisible |
| 18:27.53 | Zolden | via behavior? |
| 18:34.56 | Ahli | move the unit a bit underground |
| 18:37.26 | A1win | give it an actor message that hides it when it has that behavior |
| 18:37.32 | A1win | I mean actor events |
| 18:37.41 | A1win | behavior.on hides it and behavior.off shows it |
| 18:38.14 | Zolden | Ahli: lol, read it moving the unit in the sky |
| 18:38.24 | Zolden | A1win: how to hide the circle? |
| 18:38.36 | A1win | oh selection circle |
| 18:38.46 | Zolden | ok, lemme try |
| 18:38.46 | A1win | those are all controlled by actor events as well |
| 18:38.49 | A1win | no |
| 18:38.55 | A1win | I misread |
| 18:39.12 | A1win | you need to tamper with the selection circle actor events, but I have never touched those so can't help any further |
| 18:40.13 | Ahli | http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/5966979955 |
| 18:43.53 | Zolden | oh, i think hiding underground will help |
| 18:44.01 | Zolden | this unit has height tricks anyway |
| 18:44.13 | Zolden | so it's the easiest way |
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| 18:52.54 | Zolden | strange: to hide selection, we need to move unit under ground deeper than 0.45, or it will be still seen |
| 18:52.59 | Zolden | what a fat selection |
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| 18:54.17 | A1win | it's not fat, it's above the ground |
| 18:54.18 | tordy | are we back today? |
| 18:57.46 | Zolden | alright, made a perfect jump ability, like a frog |
| 18:57.58 | Zolden | it will be a hybrid between td and action |
| 18:58.25 | Zolden | builders will be jumping to enemy side and harrass |
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| 19:13.44 | TwoDie | need Alliance script testers +2 people on EU server |
| 19:13.59 | Zolden | pass |
| 19:14.17 | Zolden | i'm obsessed, can't stop mapping |
| 19:14.41 | TwoDie | so how is your progress now on the map? |
| 19:14.59 | Zolden | maybe 25 now |
| 19:15.03 | Zolden | percent |
| 19:15.05 | Zolden | or 30 |
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| 19:32.48 | Helral | TwoDie: still looking? |
| 19:32.57 | tordy | i wish i was obsessed with mapping |
| 19:33.07 | tordy | i want some motivation to get something don |
| 19:33.08 | tordy | e |
| 19:33.26 | TwoDie | Helral we can still test it i think now will upload new update |
| 19:33.27 | Helral | gives tordy a piece of paper that says "motivation" |
| 19:33.45 | tordy | what map? |
| 19:33.45 | Helral | TwoDie ok logging into SC2 |
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| 19:36.05 | TwoDie | tordy age of knights |
| 19:36.14 | TwoDie | testing alliance check box |
| 19:36.17 | tordy | where |
| 19:36.21 | TwoDie | EU server |
| 19:36.55 | Helral | TwoDie: at the sc2mapster channel in sc2, lemme know here when you're ready, then I'll tab back into the game. |
| 19:37.50 | TwoDie | Helral lest go |
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| 19:41.11 | TwoDie | Helral? |
| 19:42.40 | tordy | dam im only NA, sorry bout tht |
| 19:42.44 | Helral | :p |
| 19:42.50 | tordy | do you have a project page on sc2mapster? |
| 19:42.54 | tordy | or a thread |
| 19:43.02 | Otixa | you smell |
| 19:43.05 | Otixa | that is all |
| 19:43.07 | tordy | hello Otixa |
| 19:43.08 | Zolden | lol |
| 19:43.09 | tordy | hello |
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| 19:43.20 | TwoDie | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/aok/ |
| 19:43.24 | Otixa | hai |
| 19:43.36 | tordy | Otixa hello |
| 19:43.42 | TwoDie | Herlar? |
| 19:43.46 | TwoDie | Helral? |
| 19:44.14 | Otixa | TwoDie, Y models so bad? |
| 19:45.25 | Zolden | Otixa: becuase he doesn't make mesh-related normals |
| 19:45.49 | Zolden | and doesn'n make good uv unwarps |
| 19:46.09 | Otixa | >;[ |
| 19:46.40 | Otixa | Also, it's "tangent space normals" |
| 19:46.41 | Otixa | ;P |
| 19:47.14 | Zolden | ok, as you say |
| 19:54.29 | Zolden | Otixa: do you think it's possible to make units to be mirrors? like the water has mirror effect |
| 19:54.35 | Zolden | i mean sc21 |
| 19:59.11 | Helral | TwoDie: you were defeated 2 times, then you left the game 1 time, and were defeated again. |
| 19:59.29 | TwoDie | yeah triggers is a mess :d |
| 19:59.51 | TwoDie | more than half year old or even a year |
| 20:00.04 | TwoDie | still havent rescripted everything |
| 20:00.16 | Helral | hehehe |
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| 20:03.18 | mille25 | hey |
| 20:09.16 | Otixa | Zolden, no idea |
| 20:09.34 | Otixa | Should be, probably, since they already have the shader there |
| 20:10.10 | Zolden | Tosh'es armor in campaing look to be a kind of mirror |
| 20:13.06 | Otixa | Well, see how that's made then |
| 20:13.14 | Otixa | But I doubt it's true reflection |
| 20:13.18 | Otixa | Probably cubemapped |
| 20:13.37 | Zolden | yea, i'm afraid it's a trick |
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| 20:13.48 | Zolden | and i can't see how it's made, it's only in cinematics |
| 20:14.07 | DeadZergling | Well, got even less sleep than I thought I would |
| 20:14.15 | DeadZergling | Should be a fun zombie of a day |
| 20:15.09 | DeadZergling | how goes your time in the data editor, Z? |
| 20:15.52 | Zolden | DeadZergling: now you have your nickname deservedly |
| 20:16.01 | Zolden | what's your job? |
| 20:16.09 | Zolden | how can you do anything after 2 hours of sleep |
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| 20:16.16 | DeadZergling | me, testing |
| 20:16.17 | Zandose | hi |
| 20:16.29 | DeadZergling | it hardly requires consciousness |
| 20:16.38 | Zolden | lucky you |
| 20:16.58 | DeadZergling | I'd feel luckier if I could pass the time on the map editor |
| 20:17.10 | Zolden | i made jumping ability using launch and ballistic mover, proud of myself :) |
| 20:17.10 | Zandose | I had a quick question for about the trigger math functions. Is there a function to change a positive number to a negative number? |
| 20:17.35 | DeadZergling | I see, why a jumping ability for a TD though? |
| 20:17.45 | Zolden | Zandose: r u kidding? |
| 20:17.50 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 20:17.51 | DeadZergling | sure is zandose, *= -1 |
| 20:17.55 | Zolden | DeadZergling: it will be a hybrid :) |
| 20:18.09 | DeadZergling | just go to modify integer or real |
| 20:18.14 | DeadZergling | and set it to multiply by -1 |
| 20:18.25 | Zolden | Zandose: make a script, type x = -x |
| 20:18.57 | DeadZergling | bah, that way processes slower |
| 20:19.08 | Zandose | ic |
| 20:19.09 | Zolden | yeah, or multiply by -1 |
| 20:19.30 | Zandose | and i was just going to do 0-number |
| 20:19.54 | DeadZergling | much faster to *= or +=, i += 1 > i = i + 1. (Yes I know ++i is good too, but the editor doesn't recognize that one) |
| 20:20.24 | Zolden | didn't know it matters |
| 20:20.28 | Zolden | but understandable |
| 20:20.41 | DeadZergling | something to do w/ creating a new instance of the variable |
| 20:20.47 | Zolden | and i think compilator fixes it |
| 20:20.51 | DeadZergling | when you refer to it like that |
| 20:21.38 | Zolden | yeah, in c++ it's like this, but galaxy is something we don't know how is compilated |
| 20:21.48 | DeadZergling | overall it probably doesn't really matter |
| 20:22.18 | DeadZergling | I'm just a small processing time junkie |
| 20:22.35 | mille25 | DeadZergling: do you like to get a new haircut to lose weight? :) |
| 20:23.04 | DeadZergling | lol, no, but I only have it cut every 2-3 months, and I have it nearly shaved all off at that time. |
| 20:23.30 | mille25 | haha alright. |
| 20:24.40 | DeadZergling | spent too much time on this not to post the screenshot a little today |
| 20:24.44 | DeadZergling | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/33/689/Screenshot2012-12-03_07_02_26.jpg |
| 20:24.57 | DeadZergling | took forever to get the vertical bar to work right, but finally got it down |
| 20:27.33 | mille25 | nice |
| 20:27.48 | mille25 | the main frame needs some sort of background though |
| 20:27.53 | mille25 | looks like weird if its just a border |
| 20:27.59 | mille25 | *kinda |
| 20:28.05 | DeadZergling | aye, I agree |
| 20:28.13 | DeadZergling | is just a holder, I plan to improve it later |
| 20:28.32 | DeadZergling | What I'll probably end up doing is removing the frame entirely |
| 20:28.48 | DeadZergling | transparency is pretty important for the Exp bar to function |
| 20:30.00 | DeadZergling | if you ever want to make a vertical bar by the way, just PM me asking for the code I used, lol |
| 20:30.06 | DeadZergling | It was a mess |
| 20:33.02 | mille25 | why is it a mess? |
| 20:33.23 | DeadZergling | well, to make the horizontal bars |
| 20:33.33 | DeadZergling | I have 2 images, a filled one and a blank one |
| 20:33.48 | DeadZergling | to adjust the percentage, i'd just adjust the width |
| 20:34.03 | DeadZergling | and it starts the image from the left |
| 20:34.15 | DeadZergling | which works well for what I was doing |
| 20:34.23 | DeadZergling | Unfortunately, the same wasn't true for vertical |
| 20:34.32 | DeadZergling | setting the height made it start from the top |
| 20:34.40 | DeadZergling | and I wanted the XP bar to start from the bottom |
| 20:35.26 | Dustin|Work | Wha |
| 20:35.30 | DeadZergling | Even if I moved the image down more, it'd still show the top part |
| 20:35.33 | Dustin|Work | Just set the bar height to 0 |
| 20:35.59 | DeadZergling | that works fine for 0 % dustin, but not for anything else |
| 20:36.10 | Dustin|Work | Hmmm |
| 20:36.18 | DeadZergling | I got it to work anyways |
| 20:36.21 | Dustin|Work | nice |
| 20:36.23 | DeadZergling | just explaining it was messy |
| 20:36.25 | DeadZergling | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/33/689/Screenshot2012-12-03_07_02_26.jpg |
| 20:36.36 | DeadZergling | shows what I made, ignore the ugly frame surrounding them, lol |
| 20:36.47 | Dustin|Work | Oh I gotcha |
| 20:36.57 | DeadZergling | What I ended up having to use |
| 20:37.01 | DeadZergling | was a second frame to hold the image |
| 20:37.11 | DeadZergling | and use it to hide the part of the image I didn't want to see |
| 20:37.28 | DeadZergling | so to update, i have to adjust the dialog height, dialog offset, and image offset |
| 20:37.30 | Dustin|Work | Makes sense |
| 20:37.37 | DeadZergling | boy was that a mindfuck at 5-6 in the morning |
| 20:37.39 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 20:37.40 | Dustin|Work | lol |
| 20:38.03 | DeadZergling | worth it though |
| 20:38.13 | Dustin|Work | Should be able to lock an images anchor points |
| 20:38.23 | Dustin|Work | so you can control how it expands/contracts to size changes |
| 20:38.29 | Dustin|Work | Would help ALOT |
| 20:38.39 | DeadZergling | aye, I ended up just using tile setting |
| 20:38.51 | DeadZergling | and scaling the images outside w/ gimp |
| 20:38.58 | Dustin|Work | nice |
| 20:39.13 | DeadZergling | learned how to make shiny bars too |
| 20:39.17 | DeadZergling | not just a boring color |
| 20:40.49 | DeadZergling | I probably coulda done a more diablo like globe for health/energy too, but I think the horizontal bars are just plain easier to read |
| 20:41.27 | DeadZergling | I dunno, what yall think, when you are reading your health bar, what format do you find easier? |
| 20:41.36 | DeadZergling | Horizontal bar, Globe, number? |
| 20:43.01 | DeadZergling | I got extremely used to the horizontal format in Everquest, was always top left for me too, so I may be a little biased, lol |
| 20:44.10 | Zandose | Another question. Per say you had a unit moving forward and then you told the unit to turn and move left-wards. Could you get the unit to continue to move and change its facing at the same time, like the unit would slowly move-rotate to the new direction. |
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| 20:44.37 | Taintedwisp | Hey everyone. |
| 20:44.42 | Zandose | hi |
| 20:44.45 | DeadZergling | sure, just have to use gradual orders more to the left |
| 20:47.25 | Zandose | I don't believe that will work. If you tell a unit, like a marine, to move to a new direction it will stop, rotate, then move again. Imagine a airplane turning. |
| 20:49.15 | Dustin|Work | That's going to be a mover thing |
| 20:49.39 | DeadZergling | probably, I was thinking like 12-15 move orders |
| 20:49.45 | Dustin|Work | Like how the ships turn in Starbattle? |
| 20:49.45 | DeadZergling | gradually more and more to the left |
| 20:50.16 | Zandose | thats closer to my thinking i believe |
| 20:51.21 | Zandose | ill start there. how was the movement of ships in starbattle done? with movers? |
| 20:51.37 | Dustin|Work | yes |
| 20:52.02 | Dustin|Work | I hate movers, so I cant tell you how to do it, just that's what you use to do it |
| 20:52.30 | DeadZergling | I fail at all movers besides guidance types |
| 20:52.31 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 20:52.51 | DeadZergling | and copy pasted infestor spawn infested terran ones |
| 20:54.09 | Zandose | oh my they do look complex |
| 20:54.32 | Zandose | the missile mover uses names i've never heard of... |
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| 20:59.01 | mille25 | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/7994698/First_Look_Groups_Coming_in_Heart_of_the_Swarm-12_3_2012 |
| 20:59.02 | mille25 | :) |
| 21:04.33 | zenxu | let me tell you |
| 21:04.44 | zenxu | that groups thing is as useless as anything |
| 21:04.51 | zenxu | chat channels practically handle same stuff |
| 21:05.01 | zenxu | and irc |
| 21:05.22 | zenxu | 0% increase in "non beggar" mappers |
| 21:07.38 | Taintedwisp | Millie im too sick to care... :P haha |
| 21:07.38 | mille25 | well i personally also dont think that its such a big of a deal, but alot of people requested this, and im fine with everything that increases the total population of sc2 since this also always benefits mapping :D |
| 21:07.44 | Taintedwisp | im gunna read it though!!! |
| 21:07.58 | mille25 | aw youre sick? :( |
| 21:08.11 | zenxu | Im still waiting for something revolutionary |
| 21:08.13 | zenxu | like f2p |
| 21:08.14 | zenxu | :;E |
| 21:08.24 | Taintedwisp | Sounds cool mille25, it seems they Based it around steam groups |
| 21:08.26 | Taintedwisp | Pretty cool |
| 21:08.44 | Taintedwisp | Yeah i was up all last night puking, and just worke up 20 minutes ago |
| 21:08.49 | mille25 | puking sucks |
| 21:08.50 | Taintedwisp | and now I feel worse then yesterday |
| 21:09.01 | mille25 | didnt puke from illness since about... 12 years or so |
| 21:09.04 | mille25 | haha :D |
| 21:09.18 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:09.23 | Taintedwisp | I dont get sick too often |
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| 21:09.27 | Taintedwisp | Last time was 3 years ago |
| 21:09.41 | mille25 | =/ |
| 21:09.43 | Taintedwisp | But I puked 1/4th of a 5 gallon bucket... |
| 21:09.44 | Taintedwisp | Yeahh |
| 21:09.49 | Taintedwisp | that was a bad day |
| 21:09.59 | mille25 | okay... enough. :D |
| 21:10.15 | mille25 | i dont even wanna know all the details! :P |
| 21:10.51 | Taintedwisp | Well it was midspring and the flowers were blooming, blue I think, anyways int eh brown trailer... |
| 21:10.52 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 21:11.21 | Taintedwisp | Thinking about building a terrain |
| 21:11.46 | DeadZergling | make it zerg w/ lots of chunks |
| 21:11.52 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:11.59 | Taintedwisp | I want to make something for the WTE exercise :P] |
| 21:12.26 | Taintedwisp | but then again I aready have beta... |
| 21:12.34 | Taintedwisp | Of course if I won i would just contest it back off :P |
| 21:12.38 | mille25 | just win and hand the key over to me,. |
| 21:12.53 | Dustin|Work | Ive had a key forever |
| 21:12.55 | Taintedwisp | Iff I win, then whoever is good with photoshop :P |
| 21:13.03 | Taintedwisp | I need a loading screen |
| 21:13.04 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 21:13.19 | DeadZergling | take a picture of your puke, can be a new kind of art style |
| 21:13.23 | Taintedwisp | if I dont win, then I will use the terrain to make my next map |
| 21:13.58 | Taintedwisp | Yeah deadzergling as you can see the chicken beside the noodles from last night really give an artistic saddening vision of a poor kid in ethiopia |
| 21:14.45 | DeadZergling | what does ethiopia have to do w/ you puking out the chicken noodles? |
| 21:16.40 | Taintedwisp | its sentimental value..... that alfredo shows how the white people are always bringing the browning bile colored noodles down!!! |
| 21:17.02 | Taintedwisp | and well you know.. the chicken is chicken.. |
| 21:18.18 | DeadZergling | hrmmm, been practicing making little sense with your being sick time huh |
| 21:18.20 | Taintedwisp | yeah that was kinda gross :P |
| 21:19.20 | Taintedwisp | I have a theory why I make little sense to everyone here haha. When I think I tend to not elaborate on any of my points, I will be thinking a>b>c>d>e>F>g but I will say a>g |
| 21:19.21 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 21:19.40 | Dustin|Work | "Do YOU want to be confused as fuck? Act now and talk to Taintedwisp!" |
| 21:19.49 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:20.09 | Taintedwisp | Confusions not bad :P, Least its not me thats confused :P |
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| 21:20.45 | Ashamed | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK8mJJJvaes |
| 21:21.51 | Taintedwisp | hey ashamed what you been up to? |
| 21:22.08 | Ashamed | Thrift Shoppen |
| 21:22.25 | Ashamed | Not much just working |
| 21:22.56 | Taintedwisp | ahh |
| 21:23.04 | Dustin|Work | hi hi Ashamed |
| 21:23.23 | Ashamed | sup |
| 21:23.35 | Ashamed | but when I have time for games been Path of Exile |
| 21:23.58 | Dustin|Work | Isn't that some Korean MMO |
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| 21:26.48 | Ashamed_ | stupid freenode..... |
| 21:26.52 | ThunderLord | Hey Taintedwisp |
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| 21:27.04 | Ashamed_ | path of exile = free to play hack and slash... its still in closed beta |
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| 21:28.50 | Dustin|Work | I think..yeah I got a beta invite to that game while back |
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| 21:46.22 | Vindicator | Anyone who wants a beta key for HotS - just pre-order the game from amazon.com and you'll get a beta key. |
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| 21:48.54 | Taintedwisp_ | :P |
| 21:49.03 | Taintedwisp_ | I just want one so I can contest it off haha |
| 21:51.39 | DeadZergling | wouldn't that cut into your play taxi for your brother fund though? |
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| 21:56.01 | Taintedwisp_ | i never said I would be willing to buy one |
| 21:56.10 | Taintedwisp_ | and no not taxi... taxi gets paid -_- |
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| 21:58.31 | Taintedwisp_ | lawl\ |
| 21:58.32 | Taintedwisp_ | http://extratorrent.com/article/2607/copyright+cops+arrested+9+year+old+girl.html |
| 22:00.09 | ThunderLord | what do people think they accomplish by that? |
| 22:00.15 | ThunderLord | i mean really... |
| 22:00.27 | Zolden | they just wanted to touch her immature boobs |
| 22:00.51 | Taintedwisp_ | lol |
| 22:01.29 | Taintedwisp_ | Theres a reason i am against the RIAA, there was a woman in america who was sentenced to a year in prision, a single mom of 3 minors, All because she downloaded 5 acdc songs... |
| 22:01.43 | ThunderLord | some people man... |
| 22:01.54 | ThunderLord | who says thats a good idea? |
| 22:01.56 | Dustin|Work | ouch |
| 22:02.00 | Dustin|Work | Didn't even get any good songs |
| 22:02.01 | Taintedwisp_ | And the best part, the bands dont even know about the RIAA, nor do they get money from these suits |
| 22:02.24 | ThunderLord | does making the punishment rediculas really prevent people from doing it? |
| 22:02.25 | Taintedwisp_ | One band found out, and they instantly dropped their Record company.... |
| 22:02.46 | ThunderLord | if i ever got caught for all the stuf i downloaded... |
| 22:02.56 | ThunderLord | shit dude, ide be done |
| 22:03.00 | Taintedwisp_ | If police come at the door, ill just quick slip the harddrive out of my computer |
| 22:03.01 | Taintedwisp_ | :P |
| 22:03.03 | ThunderLord | Death Penalty |
| 22:03.18 | Taintedwisp_ | Its a lap top so i got plenty of places to hide it |
| 22:03.26 | Taintedwisp_ | and be like, Ninja that computer hasnt had a harddrive in months |
| 22:03.27 | Taintedwisp_ | :P |
| 22:04.06 | ThunderLord | by those standards, 5 ACDC songs is a year, then i prolly would get like 1000 years in prision |
| 22:04.09 | Dustin|Work | Always have a super strong magnet at your house |
| 22:04.19 | Dustin|Work | Incase you need to get rid of stuff |
| 22:04.30 | Taintedwisp_ | Well according to the RIAA and the Swindled judges, 1 song is worth 15,000$... |
| 22:04.31 | Taintedwisp_ | :P |
| 22:04.36 | ThunderLord | yeah a cop comes to the door, and ill just go grab a screw driver, open up my computer, take out the harddrive... |
| 22:04.44 | ThunderLord | i keep it all on a media server anyway |
| 22:05.25 | Dustin|Work | Just keep all your increminating data on the cloud with anonymous credentials |
| 22:05.29 | Taintedwisp_ | The funniest part, is the RIAA and MPAA, both tried to sue an entire country because it didnt have copyright laws :P |
| 22:05.40 | Taintedwisp_ | thats why Europe has their 6 strike bullshit |
| 22:05.51 | Taintedwisp_ | because Europe Pussied out |
| 22:05.56 | ThunderLord | wow |
| 22:05.58 | ThunderLord | ... |
| 22:06.01 | Taintedwisp_ | America sold out too... |
| 22:06.55 | ThunderLord | like seriously... the world |
| 22:06.57 | Taintedwisp_ | I dont understnad why everoyne bows to the Entertainment buisness... Every country is soo quick to suck the dick of every corporation i dont get it |
| 22:07.03 | Tomura | The RIAA also tried to sue LimeWire for more money than exists in the world ... |
| 22:07.13 | Taintedwisp_ | yeah |
| 22:07.14 | Taintedwisp_ | ;p; |
| 22:07.24 | Taintedwisp_ | Now theres a new organization forming called I think |
| 22:07.25 | Taintedwisp_ | the CPP\ |
| 22:22.06 | Triceron_ | It's a double edged sword |
| 22:22.43 | Triceron_ | everyone views the entertainment corporations as being evil for doing all the lawsuits and going after random people - which is a stupid approach I agree |
| 22:23.35 | Triceron_ | but at the same time, entertainment itself is being devalued by the ease of the internet and more and more people expect things to be free instead of paying for it. |
| 22:24.08 | Triceron_ | it's a rationale that hurts the industry as a whole |
| 22:25.02 | Triceron_ | and it's likely something that will affect the small time artists more than the big names. |
| 22:30.04 | Ashamed_ | Triceron i am sure if they kept everything within fare prices we would see less pirates |
| 22:30.58 | Ashamed_ | charging someone 15 dollars for a dvd/cd is redic especially when you look at it... they are hoping at least 100 million people buy their shit..... 15x100 million = alot... they could sale them for much less |
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| 22:37.15 | Mekrah | Alright I'm ashamed I came onto here for this... |
| 22:37.33 | Mekrah | But I can't find how I change the time of hatch > lair > hive mutation |
| 22:38.02 | Triceron_ | It's supply and demand, whatever price they put on it doesn't matter. We could say the same about the price of cars, houses, food, anything. |
| 22:39.14 | Triceron_ | lowering the price of a car won't stop someone from breaking in and stealing one, it's the laws that enforce that. |
| 22:39.36 | Mekrah | Can anyone help me, please? |
| 22:41.20 | Mekrah | Okay nevermind I found it, but that was stupid =/ |
| 22:41.50 | Triceron_ | is it an actor event? |
| 22:42.00 | Mekrah | No |
| 22:42.26 | Dustin|Work | No, Ashamed is Adhamed, you're Mekrah |
| 22:42.31 | Dustin|Work | Ashamed* |
| 22:42.56 | Dustin|Work | It's just an option under the morph ability |
| 22:43.30 | Mekrah | T.T |
| 22:44.10 | Mekrah | It was under FieldLair - Morph Building (Lair -> Hive) Ability: Info +(Enabled):(Hive):(5):(((0.0000|0.0000)|(0.0000|0.0000)|(0.0000|0.0000)|(0.0000|0.0000)|(0.0000|0.0000)|(0.0000|0.0000))):((((None)|(None)|(None))|((None)|(None)|(None))|((None)|(None)|(None))|((None)|(None)|(None))|((None)|(None)|(None))|((None)|(None)|(None)))):(Duration):(Stats):(0.0000):(0.0000) |
| 22:44.16 | Mekrah | Oh wops |
| 22:44.23 | Dustin|Work | Yeah sounds right |
| 22:44.39 | Mekrah | Anyway it wasn't very obvious, much easier to find durations for upgrades/unit building |
| 22:44.58 | Mekrah | I'm new to this so I'm not very fast to find these things |
| 22:44.58 | Dustin|Work | Most things in the data editor are not very obvious :P |
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| 22:45.08 | Mekrah | You got that right... T.T |
| 22:52.29 | Mekrah | hmm |
| 22:52.33 | Mekrah | how do i remove fog of war? |
| 22:53.19 | Dustin|Work | I think it's under Game Settings in Data |
| 22:54.26 | Dustin|Work | I remember when we use to have 100+ people idleing in here all the time |
| 22:59.56 | Mekrah | Okay something new I need help with which I REALLY don't have a clue how to fix |
| 23:00.13 | Otixa | steals Triceron_'s car |
| 23:00.45 | A1win | Mekrah, just create a revealer for all players on the entire map |
| 23:01.09 | A1win | with triggers |
| 23:01.23 | A1win | I don't think you can remove fog of war with the fog of war data, just change its behavior |
| 23:01.30 | Mekrah | I need the map to be able to have two players, which should be hostile with eachother, but if theres only 1 player that 1 player should be able to control both factions and a-move has to work |
| 23:02.08 | A1win | you can share control of a player's units with another player |
| 23:02.09 | Mekrah | To make it easier I'm making a unit test map, so I have to be able to create units on both sides and attack with them |
| 23:02.34 | A1win | though I'm not exactly sure if you can share control of an enemy's units... |
| 23:02.56 | Otixa | Can't you change unit ownership? |
| 23:03.00 | Mekrah | A1win, but can I then make it so that I can attack that guys units with a-move, even though I'm controling both sides |
| 23:03.05 | A1win | sure but then they wouldn't be enemies |
| 23:03.18 | A1win | possibly |
| 23:03.20 | A1win | hmmh |
| 23:03.27 | A1win | there should be scan filters for weapons |
| 23:03.34 | Otixa | Make a control building which then issues orders to the opposing faction |
| 23:04.02 | Otixa | Also, paint me a carpet |
| 23:04.17 | A1win | if you enable Ally flag for scan filters and have both players as allies, they should auto-attack each other's units |
| 23:04.35 | A1win | and then you can share the ally's control with you using triggers |
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| 23:05.11 | A1win | downside is that you wouldn't be able to have actual allies in the map then, but if you don't need that then it should work |
| 23:05.33 | A1win | but you'll have to edit every weapon of every unit :x |
| 23:05.49 | Ahli | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/7994699/StarCraft_II_Creative_Development_QA_-_Part_7-12_3_2012 |
| 23:05.57 | Mekrah | Okay nevermind the other player thing them |
| 23:06.22 | Otixa | actually |
| 23:06.34 | Otixa | 1 player scenario |
| 23:06.38 | Mekrah | I will be the only player, I need to control both hatcheries so I can make units from both of them, and I need to be able to attack my own units in between the hatcheries |
| 23:06.42 | Otixa | Player has their own faction |
| 23:06.48 | Otixa | And there are 2 different factions |
| 23:06.53 | Otixa | aside from Player faction |
| 23:07.04 | Otixa | Player has shared control with both factions |
| 23:07.14 | A1win | oh yeah |
| 23:07.15 | Otixa | But faction A & B are hostile towards eachother |
| 23:07.20 | Otixa | There |
| 23:07.21 | A1win | you're using wrong terms though :P |
| 23:07.28 | Otixa | Whatever |
| 23:07.31 | Otixa | I'm not a mapper ;p |
| 23:07.34 | Otixa | I'm a gamedev |
| 23:07.35 | Otixa | :B |
| 23:08.21 | A1win | Mekrah, so what he means is that you could have the two players as computer players against each other, make yourself an ally with shared control with both of them, and make the computer players enemies with each other |
| 23:08.48 | Mekrah | I will try to solve this, I'll get back in a sec :P |
| 23:09.18 | Otixa | AI love triangle |
| 23:09.22 | Otixa | hurhurhur |
| 23:09.23 | A1win | :P |
| 23:09.38 | Otixa | Now to paint some carpet |
| 23:10.16 | Triceron_ | paint is meant for the walls, not the carpet |
| 23:10.47 | Otixa | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/Models/DS_WIP3.jpg |
| 23:10.48 | Otixa | Lies |
| 23:11.15 | Triceron_ | ooh glowy |
| 23:11.40 | Otixa | needs a carpet in the middle of the pillars, no? :> |
| 23:11.45 | Otixa | A big red one |
| 23:11.48 | Otixa | With gold borders |
| 23:11.52 | Otixa | nods to self |
| 23:14.52 | Mekrah | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:14.58 | Mekrah | I'm player 1 |
| 23:15.03 | Mekrah | Player 2 and player 3 are computers |
| 23:15.40 | Mekrah | it just says defeat when i join cause I have no forces |
| 23:16.13 | A1win | Mekrah, you need to disable the melee victory conditions for yourself |
| 23:16.37 | A1win | after enabling them for all players in the map init trigger |
| 23:17.02 | Mekrah | should i remove Melee - Start the melee AI for all computer players also |
| 23:17.19 | A1win | probably |
| 23:17.25 | A1win | if you want that :P |
| 23:17.41 | A1win | it does exactly what it says it does |
| 23:18.10 | A1win | to disable it for yourself, there's an action to turn one condition at a time on/off for a player |
| 23:18.32 | A1win | can't remember what it's called exactly |
| 23:18.56 | A1win | search for "melee" in the action list and browse through the results |
| 23:19.29 | Mekrah | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:19.37 | Mekrah | but disable |
| 23:19.40 | A1win | yeah |
| 23:19.50 | A1win | probably the reveal and other stuff too |
| 23:20.28 | A1win | and put that action after the "enable x for all players" ones so that it overwrites them |
| 23:21.23 | Mekrah | It says me and player 3 has no forces so player 2 is victorious :S |
| 23:21.50 | Otixa | Add some forces then ;P |
| 23:21.52 | Otixa | Derp |
| 23:22.03 | A1win | ._o |
| 23:22.04 | Zolden | :)) |
| 23:22.08 | A1win | are you sure you are player 1 |
| 23:22.20 | A1win | which order do you have players in the Player Properties? |
| 23:22.29 | Mekrah | sec |
| 23:22.38 | Mekrah | i might have ballsed it up making #0 user controlled |
| 23:22.45 | A1win | ;p |
| 23:22.56 | A1win | then you're player 0 |
| 23:22.58 | A1win | and not 1 |
| 23:23.13 | A1win | and "Player 3" is 2 and "Player 2" is 1 |
| 23:23.24 | Mekrah | i changed it now |
| 23:23.57 | A1win | if you want to be thorough, you could detect the computer players and the User player with triggers and after that enable and disable melee options for the appropriate ones |
| 23:24.41 | A1win | then it wouldn't matter which order you add players in the lobby and stuff |
| 23:25.41 | Mekrah | i should be the only one |
| 23:25.54 | Mekrah | only 1 player controlled, but i control both computers buildings |
| 23:27.14 | Zolden | btw, a question: for example, i have players 1, 2, 3 and 4 controlled by human. 2 players join lobby. Second player left and never came back. Another one joined - as player 3. And another one joined - as player 4. So, the fourth playr to join - what player nuber will he have in game? Is it possible he will be player 5? |
| 23:28.48 | Zolden | can we be sure, that players will be strictily 1, 2, 3, 4, no mater what join history lobby have? |
| 23:29.05 | A1win | dunno |
| 23:29.28 | A1win | I always refer to players by their status after they've joined |
| 23:29.52 | Ahli | the third player joining the game should become player 2 |
| 23:29.56 | A1win | a loop goes through all players and puts all user players with status "playing" into a global player group variable |
| 23:30.33 | Ahli | I think you receive the lowest free number when you join a lobby |
| 23:30.51 | A1win | mm I think so |
| 23:30.53 | Ahli | if you switch to a referee/spectator, you receive a higher number I believe |
| 23:31.33 | Ahli | at least, if I spectate as a host, player 1-10 are properly used by my added AI |
| 23:31.51 | Ahli | but gaps are possible |
| 23:32.04 | Mekrah | Wohooo, made it work |
| 23:32.06 | Ahli | in the player numbers... so you can have 1 2 4 5 |
| 23:32.15 | Mekrah | Now it's just a matter of removing all costs and buildtimes |
| 23:32.16 | Zolden | omg |
| 23:32.19 | Ahli | because 3 left and then the map started |
| 23:37.56 | Mekrah | A1win, thanks for the help, bye bye =) |
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