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| 01:39.09 | ThunderLord | Anyone ever come up with a good algorithm for calculating Elo? |
| 01:43.22 | Ahli | use elo algorithm for elo |
| 01:43.29 | Ahli | problem solved |
| 01:47.28 | Taintedwisp | whats elo? |
| 01:47.31 | Taintedwisp | jello? |
| 01:47.37 | ThunderLord | well |
| 01:47.42 | ThunderLord | elo is lame |
| 01:47.46 | Ahli | google elo rating |
| 01:47.47 | ThunderLord | elo is like...ranking system |
| 01:47.47 | Taintedwisp | if its jello i want green |
| 01:47.49 | Taintedwisp | with fruit in it |
| 01:47.51 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 01:47.59 | ThunderLord | based on winning and losing games vs other players elo |
| 01:48.03 | ThunderLord | i want to be able to say |
| 01:48.16 | ThunderLord | If i have en elo if 2000 i am in the 76% of all players |
| 01:48.28 | ThunderLord | or better yet just tell people what percentage they are in |
| 01:48.55 | ThunderLord | Also i have to mod the elo algorithm for 4 teams of 2 players, not so clear cut... |
| 01:49.30 | Ahli | I made one for 2 teams playing vs each other, but it's untested |
| 01:51.30 | ThunderLord | ummm, is there an easy way you could share it with me? if you dont mind |
| 01:52.37 | Ahli | I won't share it as it is untested. Also, I made that more than a year ago. I don't remember the details :D |
| 01:52.58 | ThunderLord | uhhh, fair enough |
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| 02:05.04 | ThunderLord | okay ummm, how can i make a model/actor appear at an ability's target location while the ability is in it's cast phase?? |
| 02:05.52 | Taintedwisp | Thunderlord if you dont get an answer then I have a way that might :P |
| 02:06.08 | ThunderLord | what is it? |
| 02:06.33 | Taintedwisp | when you click the ability bridge it, one part sends a behavior to the unit, then you can do behavior on |
| 02:06.37 | Taintedwisp | and manipulate it from there |
| 02:07.08 | ThunderLord | Target is a point |
| 02:07.17 | Taintedwisp | oh |
| 02:07.22 | ThunderLord | yeah )= |
| 02:07.51 | ThunderLord | i guess maybe i could a persistent |
| 02:08.03 | ThunderLord | but, i cannot have a true cast phase with that |
| 02:08.19 | Taintedwisp | well you could still have a set effect |
| 02:08.26 | Taintedwisp | i think its called a set effect :P |
| 02:08.39 | Taintedwisp | that woudl fire off 2 different effects at once, so 1 side can do your actual effects |
| 02:08.42 | ThunderLord | yeah but... i cannot have the effect be created before the cast phase |
| 02:08.46 | Taintedwisp | and your other could target so you could create teh actor |
| 02:09.24 | ThunderLord | I could do it with triggers.... |
| 02:09.26 | ThunderLord | so easily |
| 02:09.30 | Taintedwisp | lol, Button pressed then create and wherever the mouse clicks via triggers? |
| 02:09.32 | ThunderLord | but i am trying to learn data ))= |
| 02:09.38 | Taintedwisp | oh lol |
| 02:09.40 | Taintedwisp | hahah |
| 02:09.51 | ThunderLord | okay fine |
| 02:09.56 | ThunderLord | im doing it. |
| 02:10.00 | ThunderLord | triggers, gah |
| 02:10.05 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 02:10.08 | ThunderLord | To Legit to quit |
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| 03:49.26 | ThunderLord | my editor seems to crash quite often recently... |
| 04:03.53 | Otixa | emerges |
| 04:04.12 | Otixa | Sup? |
| 05:10.42 | Dogmai | good morning sunshine~~~~~~~~~ |
| 05:12.44 | ThunderLord | its 11 at night |
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| 05:32.00 | Nytemare3701 | Hello! |
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| 07:45.57 | DeadZergling | out of curiosity, what's considered a bad worst run time for functions? |
| 07:57.42 | hobbidude | ?? |
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| 08:26.49 | DeadZergling | hi turtles |
| 08:26.58 | DeadZergling | thx for the offer last night |
| 08:43.22 | turtles | hi |
| 08:43.25 | turtles | no problem |
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| 08:52.57 | turtles | does anyone else use the "critical section" function a lot? |
| 08:53.32 | turtles | I've got a lot of places where I try and enforce mutual exclusion such as worrying about 2 players clicking a button at the same time |
| 08:54.20 | turtles | but I sometimes wonder if it is worth it for the very rare occasion that it might come into effect |
| 08:56.10 | DeadZergling | depends what the button does, really |
| 08:56.12 | DeadZergling | what does it do? |
| 08:56.35 | turtles | I have lots of mutual exclusion code |
| 08:56.37 | turtles | for example |
| 08:57.13 | turtles | there is a list of starting locations. If you click on one you are assigned that location and it is removed from the list |
| 08:57.42 | turtles | if 2 players click it at exactly the same time it can sometimes cause 2 players to spawn at the same start location |
| 08:58.31 | DeadZergling | hrrrrrmmm, couldn't just use a boolean array to keep track of that? |
| 08:58.47 | turtles | or a button to close a dialog. If 2 players click it at the same time then both triggers fire, the first one closes the dialog and then the second trigger references a dialog that no longer exists so creates errors |
| 08:58.49 | turtles | etcetc |
| 08:59.22 | DeadZergling | I see, my dialogs do things on a player by player basis |
| 08:59.26 | DeadZergling | only updates for that player |
| 08:59.39 | turtles | i see |
| 08:59.47 | turtles | but for the starting location example |
| 09:00.06 | turtles | say your code checks the boolean array before spawning there right? |
| 09:00.15 | DeadZergling | right |
| 09:00.41 | turtles | what happens if both triggers fire, trigger 1 detects that the starting location is free |
| 09:00.55 | turtles | and then trigger 2 sees that it is free and spawns there |
| 09:01.10 | turtles | and then trigger 1 spawns there (because it already checked and it was free) |
| 09:01.23 | turtles | this kind of thing is rare but can happen |
| 09:01.54 | turtles | the only way to get around that kind of stuff is by using the critical section code |
| 09:02.12 | turtles | which blizzard provides as a function and made it easy to use |
| 09:02.15 | DeadZergling | Right, just not that familiar with using critical section code myself, I know what it is supposed to do though |
| 09:02.32 | turtles | but it is a complex problem even with good tools |
| 09:03.02 | DeadZergling | I can see a good point to using that there |
| 09:03.06 | DeadZergling | not true for dialogs |
| 09:03.15 | DeadZergling | at least the dialog useage you referred to |
| 09:03.28 | DeadZergling | letting 1 player close a dialog for another player is a bad idea |
| 09:03.39 | turtles | true, I should try and just avoid situations like that where it can occur |
| 09:04.47 | DeadZergling | That initial situation sounds tricky though, it would take a lot of testing to be sure of what the heck is going on |
| 09:04.53 | DeadZergling | since you can't exactly test it alone now can you |
| 09:05.20 | DeadZergling | if at all in fact, even if you both clicked on 3 |
| 09:05.28 | DeadZergling | the network lag |
| 09:05.32 | DeadZergling | would make the message appear later |
| 09:05.39 | DeadZergling | and the other guy would always click later |
| 09:05.55 | DeadZergling | What I think I would do, instead |
| 09:06.06 | DeadZergling | is have code in place in case 2 players appear in the same spot |
| 09:06.16 | DeadZergling | to remove one player and have them be able to choose again |
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| 09:55.08 | turtles | bye peeps |
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| 11:44.33 | Monkalizer | derp derp derp |
| 11:46.15 | Zolden | what? |
| 11:52.51 | Monkalizer | im waiting for people to join my game and i'm a bit bored. its like fishing :) you just sit and wait for someone to take the bait |
| 11:53.08 | Monkalizer | CRAZYJO has joined the lobby CRAZYJO has left the lobby |
| 11:53.12 | Monkalizer | i missed one fish already |
| 11:57.48 | Zolden | ask chat ppl to join |
| 11:58.16 | Monkalizer | yeah did that ^^ but no reaction |
| 11:58.47 | Monkalizer | i dont want to spam too much either, people will think im irritating |
| 12:07.19 | ________________ | ~8ball is Monkalizer irritating? |
| 12:07.19 | purl | Are you smoking crack? |
| 12:07.37 | ________________ | Hmm... so is that crack yes or crack no? |
| 12:07.54 | ________________ | guess we'll never know |
| 12:08.14 | Monkalizer | i'm so happy for duck having his map being highlighted ^^ |
| 12:08.31 | Monkalizer | but i think it has changed name, was it not called bomberbot before? |
| 12:11.14 | DeadZergling | gotta love workarounds |
| 12:11.24 | DeadZergling | and how painful they can be to find, lol |
| 12:14.39 | Monkalizer | aw yes, i cought a fish! |
| 12:15.10 | Zolden | eat it |
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| 12:18.20 | Zolden | btw, hardcore mapping for last day makes my dreams lovely crazy, today i had a shark-friends, we've been swimming, and the bottom was like a terrain texture shinning in a moonlight, and there was a color changing reptile, and my shark friend ate it with a shot of a long toad-like tongue |
| 12:23.15 | Monkalizer | hm, ws the dream weed induced? |
| 12:23.37 | Zolden | dreams are poor under weed |
| 12:23.48 | Monkalizer | hm |
| 12:24.12 | Monkalizer | you should try neuroleptica or ssri (antidepressants) you get very funny dreams... |
| 12:24.36 | Zolden | lol what a gentle advice |
| 12:25.58 | Monkalizer | mostly nightmares, but funny nightmares := |
| 12:25.59 | Monkalizer | :) |
| 12:27.35 | Zolden | who wanna hear my music? i just found where to upload |
| 12:27.50 | Monkalizer | hm sure |
| 12:28.07 | Zolden | it's progressive rock genre, do you like it? |
| 12:29.30 | Monkalizer | perhaps, i dont follow a special genre, i mix everything with everything |
| 12:30.49 | Zolden | http://soundcloud.com/vasily-milov/superrock |
| 12:32.38 | Monkalizer | i like the videogame references |
| 12:32.41 | Monkalizer | :) |
| 12:33.17 | Zolden | oh, it's probably just a crappy sound |
| 12:34.10 | Monkalizer | i was thinking about the basline |
| 12:35.05 | Zolden | well, maybe, wasn't intentional |
| 12:36.48 | Monkalizer | but its good ^^ are you thinking about putting it into some game? |
| 12:37.29 | Zolden | like sc2 mod? music takes too much space |
| 12:37.56 | Monkalizer | hm, perhaps |
| 12:42.50 | Monkalizer | a workaround for that limit is to attach a spotify playlist link to game map url, then players can use the external client to get a custom soundtheme |
| 12:43.01 | Monkalizer | i'm going to do that for my campaign |
| 12:44.07 | Monkalizer | i guess you could do the same with soundcloud somehow |
| 12:44.53 | Zolden | no one will do it |
| 12:45.16 | Monkalizer | we'll see |
| 12:45.17 | Zolden | excepth those you chat like "turn the tracks" |
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| 14:59.55 | ThunderLord | ... |
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| 15:02.53 | Helral|Afk | ThunderLord: meow, currently creating a test map for the layout :) |
| 15:03.17 | ThunderLord | really?! (= |
| 15:03.28 | ThunderLord | thats exciting! |
| 15:03.30 | Helral | Just need to create the inventory ability. |
| 15:03.52 | ThunderLord | (( : |
| 15:05.07 | Helral | let's see if I've got the inventory setup correctly... been a while since I used the sc2editor. |
| 15:05.37 | ThunderLord | Slot 1 is a 5 slots container, slot 2 and 3 have no conatiners |
| 15:05.49 | ThunderLord | how i have it set up in my origional file |
| 15:08.11 | Helral | ow right uhm, ThunderLord you do know that the space besides the unit info panel is dependent on player resolution? |
| 15:08.42 | ThunderLord | i do, witch is why i want it to be by the portrait |
| 15:08.57 | ThunderLord | on low res it will cover some of the heros attributes |
| 15:09.02 | ThunderLord | but i will have an option |
| 15:09.09 | ThunderLord | to hide and show the container |
| 15:09.20 | Helral | ok. just making sure. |
| 15:09.23 | ThunderLord | i tested it, and when the container is hidden, even on low resolutions, it all works |
| 15:09.35 | ThunderLord | yeah, Thanks (= |
| 15:10.42 | Helral | ow right I need to make useable items as well to test the clickability :S |
| 15:11.57 | ThunderLord | )= lol |
| 15:12.04 | ThunderLord | spider mines work pretty well |
| 15:12.22 | ThunderLord | if u have campaign dependencies |
| 15:14.08 | Helral | adding the deps now :p |
| 15:14.34 | turtles | sorry to intrude on a private conversation. But did you get the spider mine upgrade working? |
| 15:14.48 | turtles | the one which allows vultures to replenish mines |
| 15:15.03 | turtles | doesn't work out of the box |
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| 15:16.45 | Zolden | turtles: i can only say that once I've used vulture replenish ability, and it worked |
| 15:17.47 | Helral | turtles: you might need to remove the requirements for it. since it probably has a certain flag requirement. |
| 15:18.24 | turtles | @Zolden & Helral - It sort of worked for me. If it was on auto cast then it would replenish mines for a cost of 25 minerals each correctly |
| 15:18.39 | turtles | but even when the vulture had full spider mines |
| 15:19.02 | turtles | it would continue to deduct 25 minerals every 10 seconds or so from the player who owned it |
| 15:19.23 | turtles | or whatever the cooldown was on it |
| 15:20.00 | turtles | That was with no modification, I didn't try to fiddle with it much to get it fixed |
| 15:20.11 | Zolden | so, you want to remove the cap of number of spider mines? |
| 15:20.13 | turtles | I just removed autocast from the ability |
| 15:20.25 | turtles | no, say the cap is 10 spider mines |
| 15:20.51 | turtles | and a vulture uses 6 of them and has the replenish mines on auto cast (by default) |
| 15:21.08 | turtles | then every 30 seconds it would gain an extra spider mine |
| 15:21.15 | Zolden | and you want it to replenish on autocust up to the new cap? |
| 15:21.16 | turtles | and deduct 25 minerals |
| 15:21.26 | turtles | but once it got to the cap |
| 15:21.46 | turtles | it would stop replenishing mines but keep secretly deducting minerals from you |
| 15:21.59 | turtles | this is without any modification to the unit or ability |
| 15:22.03 | Zolden | sounds like trigger stuff |
| 15:22.09 | Helral | then the casting requirement isn't set correctly. (data) |
| 15:22.15 | turtles | no triggers or data modification |
| 15:22.30 | turtles | simply adding the campaign dependancy |
| 15:22.37 | turtles | and building them at the factory |
| 15:23.23 | turtles | It was a very old project which I abandoned so it doesn't matter now |
| 15:23.34 | Zolden | turtles: the best way to do something is to study how it work, to understand every single piece of the structure of effects, and then remake it from scratch |
| 15:23.38 | turtles | But I was just wondering if you had the same thing and fixed it |
| 15:25.39 | Zolden | lol, just imagined a post from a turtle on a forum for turtles like "hey, guys, I just accidently turned myself upside down, and laying on my back, and can't aquire a normal position, are there som workarounds to do that?" |
| 15:26.57 | Zolden | and then the turtle searches the forum and get a multiple posts of the same question, and realised that none of them were answered, and all of them were the last post of theose turtles and they neve joined the forum since then |
| 15:32.57 | Helral | hmmmm weird I can't get them clickable :S hmmm which frame would be blocking it .... |
| 15:35.07 | ThunderLord_ | yeah iw as having the same problem |
| 15:42.11 | Helral | hmmm waiting for my UI renderer to load and then I can see what the actual problem is. |
| 15:42.33 | Helral | it's still in alpha stage though, the renderer. |
| 15:43.56 | Helral | ow it is having problems :( internal server error :( |
| 15:44.13 | Helral | hmmmm |
| 15:45.43 | Helral | ah well time to use the other workaround I know, perhaps that one fixes it. |
| 15:45.58 | Helral | hmmmm nope |
| 15:45.59 | Helral | :S |
| 15:46.04 | Helral | one weird problem... |
| 15:46.35 | ThunderLord_ | what could it be? |
| 15:46.37 | ThunderLord_ | like... |
| 15:46.44 | ThunderLord_ | hummmm |
| 15:46.45 | Helral | ow wait... doh |
| 15:46.57 | ThunderLord_ | ?? |
| 15:47.27 | Helral | forgot to change the size/location of the container... |
| 15:47.39 | Helral | didn't fix it though :( |
| 15:48.11 | ThunderLord_ | ugh |
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| 15:51.18 | Helral | well let's see if this joke works... |
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| 15:58.40 | Helral | ThunderLord_: have you tried hooking up the inventoryButtons to a dialog in order to get them clickable? |
| 15:59.11 | ThunderLord_ | i have not... should i? would that make it easier |
| 15:59.17 | ThunderLord_ | well actually i take that back |
| 15:59.41 | ThunderLord_ | i did hook the containers up to a dialog item, so i could show/hide it when a player selects the hero |
| 16:00.36 | Helral | try also hooking up the command buttons and see if that fixes the problem... For me the game doesn't allow it, but I might be doing it wrong since I have never hooked up anything before. |
| 16:01.29 | ThunderLord_ | alright, ill give it a try |
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| 16:13.37 | Dryeyece | Herro there |
| 16:15.38 | Dryeyece | Anyone know how you can get the GuideVisualArc for example the new supported way of using the raynor laser line splat to guide an ability, not to detatch itself from the unit until you have moved the cursor out of range of the associated ability? |
| 16:16.02 | ThunderLord | yeah |
| 16:16.09 | ThunderLord | it just does it already doesnt it? |
| 16:16.14 | Dryeyece | no |
| 16:16.17 | ThunderLord | radius |
| 16:16.19 | ThunderLord | field |
| 16:16.25 | ThunderLord | or just use a beam |
| 16:16.25 | Dryeyece | k ill try |
| 16:16.31 | ThunderLord | model |
| 16:20.15 | Dryeyece | Had to unflag "Use Effect Range" thats why the inputs into radius and or range quesry etc... weren't working I think, lol |
| 16:20.30 | ThunderLord | ohhhh |
| 16:20.31 | ThunderLord | yeah |
| 16:20.41 | ThunderLord | didnt ever think about that |
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| 17:11.07 | Dryeyece | Am I still connected? |
| 17:11.30 | Zolden | I'm afriad u're not |
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| 17:12.14 | Dryeyece | lol |
| 17:12.35 | Dryeyece | Ok so on an Issue Order effect what exactly does the Index field do? |
| 17:13.26 | Dryeyece | Err the Ability Command field, its an Integer but what for? |
| 17:14.32 | Dryeyece | It would appear that it references the command Index i.e the execute command, or cancel command for most abilities |
| 17:14.50 | Dryeyece | but the command indexes in abilities are not numbered they have names... |
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| 17:16.22 | Otixa_ | hits Helral |
| 17:17.26 | Zolden | Dryeyece: they have an order in the list of commands |
| 17:17.55 | Zolden | Otixa_: why orange normal doesn't need one of the purple's channels? What kind of info is stored there? |
| 17:18.17 | Dryeyece | how do you know what index the command is though? |
| 17:18.31 | Zolden | Dryeyece: usually the one I need is 0 :) |
| 17:18.41 | Dryeyece | yeah because execute is 0 |
| 17:18.57 | Dryeyece | but Transport abilities have like 6 different command index's |
| 17:19.03 | Zolden | otherwise I enter commands field |
| 17:19.05 | Dryeyece | I guess I will have to try them 1 by 1 |
| 17:19.32 | Otixa_ | Zolden, purple channel? >> |
| 17:19.35 | Zolden | in the commands field the top one has 0, and so on |
| 17:19.37 | Otixa_ | You mean blue channel? |
| 17:19.55 | Zolden | Otixa_: yea |
| 17:20.07 | Otixa_ | Not sure tbh, haven't done any SC2 stuff in ages |
| 17:20.09 | Otixa_ | But usually |
| 17:20.13 | Otixa_ | Red channel = X |
| 17:20.17 | Otixa_ | Green = Y |
| 17:20.19 | Otixa_ | Blue = Z |
| 17:20.34 | Otixa_ | And you don't usually really use the Z channel much |
| 17:20.48 | Otixa_ | So some engines just compress the crap out of it |
| 17:20.53 | Otixa_ | And recreate it at runtime |
| 17:21.05 | Otixa_ | And then normalize the light reflection vector |
| 17:21.11 | Zolden | oh, i see |
| 17:21.37 | Otixa_ | Basically blue channel is the "displacement depth" of sorts |
| 17:22.30 | Otixa | Will trade more knowledge for a working lighter ;p |
| 17:22.38 | Zolden | when a model has a rotating part, and rotation axis is like (0, -1, -1), normal map acts wrong |
| 17:22.49 | Otixa | Shouldn't be |
| 17:22.57 | Otixa | SC2 oly uses tangent space normals afaik |
| 17:23.01 | Otixa | only* |
| 17:23.15 | Otixa | And even if it was world space, rotation shouldn't break it |
| 17:23.24 | Otixa | Elaborate on the "acts wrong" part |
| 17:23.32 | Otixa | brb, getting a lighter that works |
| 17:25.08 | Otixa | lighting cigs from the stove |
| 17:25.10 | Otixa | good times |
| 17:25.30 | Zolden | :) |
| 17:25.38 | Zolden | well, duuno what exactly wrong |
| 17:25.50 | Zolden | normalss look messed up on that rotating part of the model |
| 17:25.54 | Otixa | Screenshot ;p |
| 17:26.00 | Zolden | ok, i'll try |
| 17:26.35 | Otixa | better off asking Triceron tbh |
| 17:26.46 | Otixa | He's been active, unlike me :B |
| 17:28.44 | Zolden | Otixa: you said that you're programming shaders |
| 17:29.02 | Otixa | For UDK :P |
| 17:29.27 | Zolden | there is still a chance you have knowledge to answer |
| 17:29.39 | Otixa | Perhaps |
| 17:29.49 | Zolden | screen 1: http://snag.gy/KqLk1.jpg |
| 17:29.57 | Zolden | look at his arm |
| 17:30.01 | Otixa | I did write the book on SC2 modelling :P |
| 17:30.07 | Otixa | Or well, article |
| 17:30.12 | Zolden | the drill |
| 17:30.42 | Otixa | seems "fine" to me |
| 17:31.04 | Zolden | jsut a sec |
| 17:31.10 | Otixa | How is it supposed to look? |
| 17:31.49 | Zolden | screen 2: http://snag.gy/LQbtG.jpg |
| 17:32.01 | Zolden | here you see another phase of the rotating |
| 17:32.26 | Zolden | almost no light reflecting |
| 17:32.31 | Zolden | on the drill |
| 17:32.51 | Otixa | hmm |
| 17:32.55 | Otixa | yeah, that's odd |
| 17:33.42 | Otixa | Well, there IS light reflecting |
| 17:33.47 | Zolden | both noraml and specular maps are similar for both sides of the drills |
| 17:33.48 | Otixa | Just not the same way it was originally |
| 17:34.03 | Otixa | Well |
| 17:34.09 | Zolden | yeah, like normals have different angle |
| 17:34.17 | Otixa | Link me the texture maps and model wireframe |
| 17:34.37 | Dryeyece | I dunno but for whatever reason using an effect to order a transport ability to load a unit doesnt seem to work |
| 17:34.43 | Otixa | I had a somewhat similar problem with UDK, but I don't think it's the same thing here |
| 17:35.02 | Otixa | But post the textures, wireframe and UVs just in case |
| 17:35.15 | Zolden | ok |
| 17:38.21 | Zolden | normal map: http://snag.gy/BMo7W.jpg |
| 17:39.09 | Otixa | Also, did you use my converter for the normals? |
| 17:40.13 | Zolden | i convert by manipulating layers |
| 17:40.56 | Otixa | May be part of the problem :P |
| 17:41.02 | Otixa | But let's assume it's not |
| 17:41.14 | Otixa | post the UVs and wires |
| 17:41.19 | Otixa | Also spec |
| 17:41.51 | Zolden | spec is simply white32.dds |
| 17:42.05 | Otixa | mkay |
| 17:42.12 | Otixa | UVs then |
| 17:42.23 | Otixa | I think I may have an idea of what's going on there |
| 17:42.35 | Zolden | http://snag.gy/8dWwd.jpg |
| 17:42.44 | Otixa | may turn out to be the same problem I had |
| 17:43.13 | Otixa | ok |
| 17:43.22 | Otixa | Does the problem only occur on one side of the model? |
| 17:43.31 | Otixa | Also, make a proper unwrap >:[ |
| 17:44.13 | Zolden | it only occur on the side of the drill |
| 17:44.40 | Zolden | unwrap is gay, i see |
| 17:44.44 | Otixa | Yeah, but is it the same on the other drill? |
| 17:45.21 | Otixa | In UV editor -> Select > Inverted Faces |
| 17:45.32 | Otixa | Does it select the part that goes weird? |
| 17:46.21 | Zolden | yeah, the same for the second drill, and they both show the issue |
| 17:46.41 | Zolden | and it doesn't sleect inverted faces on the drill |
| 17:46.52 | Otixa | Hmmmm |
| 17:47.11 | Otixa | Well, try fixing your UVs first |
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| 17:47.17 | Otixa | See if that changes anything |
| 17:47.28 | Zolden | look like it will |
| 17:47.38 | Otixa | And I'll run to the store meanwhile |
| 17:47.54 | Otixa | My suspicion is that C2 does something similar to UDK |
| 17:48.10 | Otixa | And renerates the light reflection vector based on the UV coordinates of the mesh |
| 17:48.15 | Otixa | generates* |
| 17:48.31 | Otixa | So if your UVs are terrible, it's gonna produce odd results |
| 17:48.55 | Zolden | ok, ty |
| 17:48.58 | Otixa | May do some tests on this once I'm done with dissertation |
| 17:49.03 | Otixa | np |
| 17:49.08 | Otixa | lemme know what happens |
| 17:49.11 | Otixa | afk a bit |
| 17:49.19 | Zolden | i won't remake it right now, because i'm in the middle of hardcore data editing |
| 17:49.33 | Zolden | but feels like it's the problem |
| 18:00.53 | turtles | I think I might have encountered a bug in the trigger editor |
| 18:01.13 | turtles | and I know a good blacksmith never blames their tools etcetc but I am really stumped |
| 18:02.31 | turtles | I had a loop which kept repeating and I couldn't figure out why so I gradually removed all the code from the loop that might interfere with it |
| 18:02.37 | turtles | what I have left is: |
| 18:03.22 | turtles | for each integer FORCE from 1 to 2 with increment 1 do actions: |
| 18:03.33 | turtles | debug - display (integer(FORCE)) |
| 18:03.38 | turtles | wait 2 seconds |
| 18:03.42 | turtles | ... |
| 18:03.44 | turtles | that is it |
| 18:04.02 | turtles | and yet it loops infinitely |
| 18:04.23 | turtles | the output is 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2........ |
| 18:04.54 | ThunderLord | debug? |
| 18:05.02 | turtles | It is a local variable so it can't be another function interfering |
| 18:05.35 | turtles | Never learned how to use the debug tool |
| 18:05.56 | ThunderLord | oh dang |
| 18:05.56 | turtles | it is in part of a function which deals with game stuff |
| 18:06.04 | ThunderLord | did not know there was a debug option to display |
| 18:06.09 | ThunderLord | i always used text message |
| 18:06.12 | turtles | would I have to be in game for it to work? |
| 18:06.15 | ThunderLord | if you just want 1 2 |
| 18:06.32 | ThunderLord | cant you do it like... just 2 statesments |
| 18:06.47 | ThunderLord | and ur sure it is not being called multiple times? |
| 18:06.51 | Otixa | back |
| 18:06.54 | ThunderLord | or u could try restarting ur editor |
| 18:07.04 | ThunderLord | but yeah, that is funkeyt |
| 18:07.45 | turtles | I am only calling this function once and right before it there is a debug statement saying "BEGINING FUNCTION" which appears only once |
| 18:08.46 | turtles | hmmm restarting editor and hoping it's not corrupted somehow. fingers crossed |
| 18:09.10 | ThunderLord | could you try it up to 3 |
| 18:09.14 | Otixa | Actually |
| 18:09.17 | ThunderLord | cuz a for with just 2 numbers is... |
| 18:09.23 | Otixa | Zolden, you exporting the mesh as tris? |
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| 18:10.22 | Zolden | actually, i don't know what does it mean |
| 18:10.42 | Zolden | i export by clicking export button with no understanding of details |
| 18:11.04 | Otixa | Do you convert it to editable MESH before exporting? |
| 18:11.11 | Zolden | yeah, sure |
| 18:11.19 | Otixa | Mesh, not poly :P |
| 18:11.19 | Zolden | otherwise it won't work |
| 18:11.24 | Otixa | Oh, alright then |
| 18:12.21 | Otixa | Well, fix your UVs and see what that will do |
| 18:12.30 | Zolden | yeah i'm sure, it's the unwarp uv issue, I think checked everything else |
| 18:12.38 | Otixa | And be happy you only need 1 UV channel ;p |
| 18:12.50 | Zolden | lazy to do it now, but ty to you |
| 18:12.55 | Otixa | resumes fixing his lightmap UVs |
| 18:12.58 | Otixa | np |
| 18:13.21 | Zolden | yea, i'm pretty happy about it |
| 18:15.40 | ThunderLord | Hey Helral, could you explain to me how a layout panal can have a top, bottom, left and right anchor and at the same time still have a width and heigth? |
| 18:16.50 | Otixa | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/Models/PillarUV2.jpg |
| 18:16.50 | Otixa | ;p |
| 18:19.02 | Zolden | :) |
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| 18:21.11 | Repo | New map: Marine Arena Contest Entry - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/marine-arena-contest-entry/ |
| 18:21.30 | turtles | AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yeah ok so I was doing something stupid! I understand what was happening |
| 18:22.55 | turtles | as it was the last thing in the function it is hard to tell where it is indented to |
| 18:23.28 | turtles | so I had a debug statement at the start of the function to make sure the function was only being called once |
| 18:24.34 | turtles | But I didn't realise that this loop was nested inside a seperate loop inside the function |
| 18:25.10 | Zolden | ;/ |
| 18:25.19 | Otixa | hits turtles with a bird nest |
| 18:25.34 | ThunderLord | LOL |
| 18:26.06 | turtles | It is very hard to tell because it looks like it is not part of any other code |
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| 18:26.39 | turtles | 5:20 AM... definitely time to go to bed lol! |
| 18:26.57 | turtles | sorry if any of my stupid was contagious |
| 18:27.03 | turtles | night peeps |
| 18:28.54 | ThunderLord | C ya |
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| 18:32.31 | Zolden | gn turtles |
| 18:32.47 | Zolden | where is it 5.30 am? |
| 18:32.59 | Otixa | pats turtles |
| 18:33.00 | Zolden | australia? china? |
| 18:33.18 | Zolden | korea? |
| 18:33.20 | Zolden | japan? |
| 18:34.03 | Zolden | most likely australia |
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| 18:34.11 | Dryeyece | Anyone ever have any luck dealing damage to units inside transports? |
| 18:34.27 | turtles | Sydney Australia |
| 18:34.29 | Dryeyece | without triggers |
| 18:34.34 | turtles | bye for realsies this time |
| 18:34.41 | Dryeyece | bye |
| 18:34.49 | Zolden | Dryeyece: yeah, u need hidden enabled in filters |
| 18:35.02 | Dryeyece | where would I put the filters? |
| 18:35.25 | Dryeyece | its just damage, I am not using a search or snything |
| 18:35.41 | Zolden | then u need a little aoe |
| 18:36.00 | Dryeyece | I apply a behavior via the load transport behavior field, and the damage is done periodically via that behavior |
| 18:36.09 | Dryeyece | hrmm |
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| 18:36.44 | Otixa | Pack, pack, pack your UVs |
| 18:36.54 | Otixa | Gently down the 0 to 1 space |
| 18:37.07 | Otixa | Annoyedly, annoyedly, annoyedly |
| 18:37.13 | Otixa | Industry's bullshit |
| 18:37.15 | Zolden | :) |
| 18:37.35 | Zolden | music helps me to do crappy stuff like uv packing |
| 18:37.41 | Otixa | same |
| 18:37.46 | Otixa | Thing is |
| 18:37.53 | Otixa | I need to pack them very precisely |
| 18:37.59 | Otixa | So that I don't get pixel bleeds |
| 18:38.04 | Zolden | Dryeyece: example: if you enable hidden for siege tank filter it will hurt units in bunker |
| 18:38.15 | Otixa | So basically I need to pack them so every vert needs to fall between pixels |
| 18:38.16 | Otixa | x_x |
| 18:38.29 | Zolden | oh, poor you |
| 18:38.45 | Otixa | Because it's a model for mobile devices |
| 18:38.56 | Otixa | And lightmaps are gonna be something like 32x32 |
| 18:38.58 | Otixa | >;/ |
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| 18:39.41 | Zolden | yeah, it's easier to rape a fly |
| 18:39.42 | Otixa | Angry angry Otixa |
| 18:39.51 | Otixa | It's starting to look kinda neat tho |
| 18:40.00 | Otixa | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/Models/DS_WIP2.jpg |
| 18:40.05 | Otixa | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/Models/WIP1.jpg |
| 18:40.21 | Otixa | ;D |
| 18:40.30 | Zolden | yea, cool |
| 18:41.45 | Otixa | ty ^^ |
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| 18:44.05 | Fenix_ | Hey Ahli, are you there |
| 18:46.56 | Ahli | yes |
| 18:47.59 | ThunderLord | https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/16225_519996911352195_423465206_n.jpg |
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| 18:48.49 | hobbidude | lmao thats good |
| 18:48.50 | Fenix_ | Remember taht trigger you've made for me: http://i.imgur.com/WbO2x.png I think there is a little problem with the random. |
| 18:49.18 | Fenix_ | For example, what would happends if only map 2 and 4 are equals. |
| 18:49.44 | Fenix_ | leading vote ocunt will be 2 in this example |
| 18:49.56 | Fenix_ | and then it will randomize through 0 and 2 |
| 18:50.05 | Fenix_ | 0 and 1 ** |
| 18:50.43 | Fenix_ | but you want the Leading vote index array to be random between the 0 and 1 |
| 18:50.46 | hobbidude | if this is refering to players shouldn't it be 1 and up |
| 18:50.47 | Fenix_ | like in the Then |
| 18:51.00 | Fenix_ | i mean else |
| 18:51.03 | Fenix_ | >.< |
| 18:51.08 | Otixa | peers |
| 18:51.19 | Otixa | Maybe I should get off my ass one of these days and actually make a map... |
| 18:51.54 | Fenix_ | Do you see what i mean Ahli? |
| 18:52.35 | Fenix_ | in my example, with the actual trigger, it will randomize through map 0 and 1 instead of 2 and 4 |
| 18:52.52 | Ahli | sorry, had a phone call |
| 18:52.56 | Fenix_ | np |
| 18:54.13 | Ahli | the first group you really got has the index 1? |
| 18:54.36 | Fenix_ | i changed it so the group now starts at 0 to 4. |
| 18:55.00 | Ahli | then leadingVoteIndexArray[0] needs to be 0 at start |
| 18:55.12 | Ahli | it points to your first valid index |
| 18:55.24 | Ahli | of your playerGroupArray |
| 18:55.25 | Fenix_ | ok |
| 18:55.50 | Fenix_ | and what about the random? |
| 18:56.00 | Ahli | I check the algorithm from line to line |
| 18:57.28 | Ahli | it is looking fine |
| 18:57.49 | Ahli | oh wait |
| 18:58.18 | Fenix_ | if 2 maps are equals, it will randomize through 0 and 1, which will pick either map 0 or 1 no matter which maps are equals |
| 18:58.45 | Ahli | in the last "if", it needs to be winner = LeadingVoteIndexArray[ random value between 0 and (leadingVoteCount - 1) ] |
| 18:59.11 | Ahli | or just add winner = leadingVoteCount[winner] into the if |
| 18:59.25 | Fenix_ | ahhh =P I knew something was wrong.... (after taking at least a break of a day hahah) |
| 19:02.31 | Fenix_ | and btw, thank you for your help ;) really nice |
| 19:02.38 | Ahli | lol, incontrol will stream his wedding |
| 19:03.14 | ThunderLord | incontrol is having a wedding? |
| 19:04.08 | Ahli | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=385622 |
| 19:05.14 | Zolden | went jogging to a world of ice, cold and darkness imagining he's jogging on a warm beach, surrounded by a tender sunshine, followed by chicks in thin colorful bikinies |
| 19:17.23 | ThunderLord | Is there i way i can get the current time scale of a unit in a trigger? |
| 19:17.30 | Otixa | finally packed x_X |
| 19:24.59 | Ahli | maybe property, thunderlord |
| 19:25.09 | ThunderLord | ohhhhh |
| 19:25.10 | ThunderLord | maybe |
| 19:25.12 | ThunderLord | imma check that |
| 19:26.32 | ThunderLord | dang, there isnt one |
| 19:26.52 | ThunderLord | ugh i could make a function that checks all the unit's behaviors |
| 19:27.18 | ThunderLord | but that is inefficiency at its peak |
| 19:28.23 | ThunderLord | guess ill just make a list of all my behaviors that change timescale |
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| 19:30.45 | hobbidude | is this the time scale for just one unit or all units? |
| 19:30.59 | ThunderLord | an individual unit |
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| 19:31.15 | ThunderLord | i have triggers that push units |
| 19:31.28 | ThunderLord | and i want to modifty my push action definition |
| 19:31.43 | ThunderLord | to incorporate time scale |
| 19:32.15 | ThunderLord | and i cannot do it via a behavior, cuz the "move unit instantly" with blend, only looks rite if it is spaced by .0625 seconds |
| 19:33.36 | hobbidude | there is a condition thats checks animation time scale. that what yo'u're looking for? |
| 19:33.43 | hobbidude | you're* |
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| 19:34.16 | ThunderLord | hummm, maybe that will do it, because timescale does change how fast the units animate |
| 19:34.22 | ThunderLord | ill test it out |
| 19:35.26 | Ahli | unit's timescale makes a lot more |
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| 19:45.22 | Zolden | feels lucky, no dog attacks happened, just one long eye to eye stare with one of the dogs |
| 19:47.41 | Ahli | can we define how many small blips a health bar has? |
| 19:49.01 | Zolden | i'd also want to know, failed trying to find it |
| 19:49.06 | ThunderLord | yeah |
| 19:49.08 | ThunderLord | you can |
| 19:49.09 | ThunderLord | well |
| 19:49.10 | ThunderLord | sorda |
| 19:49.16 | ThunderLord | you can define how long it is |
| 19:49.22 | ThunderLord | but not specifically how many blips |
| 19:49.27 | ThunderLord | you cannot change the number of blips |
| 19:49.52 | ThunderLord | btw>> Requesting a tutorial on how we can create Warcraft3 Style Lifebars, without the segments |
| 19:50.24 | Zolden | we can do it? |
| 19:50.44 | ThunderLord | You can change the length of the lifebar |
| 19:50.52 | ThunderLord | and in changing the length |
| 19:50.58 | ThunderLord | you also change the number of segments |
| 19:51.12 | Zolden | i mean that w3 thing you asked about |
| 19:51.28 | ThunderLord | i assume it is possible |
| 19:51.33 | ThunderLord | thru some custom status bar |
| 19:51.34 | Zolden | i hear there is a new custom bars thing in 1.5 |
| 19:51.46 | ThunderLord | yeah, but i havent seen anyone use it |
| 19:51.53 | ThunderLord | i dont wana be the one to crunch in to it |
| 19:52.04 | Ahli | bibendus uses it |
| 19:52.16 | ThunderLord | anything on mapster about it? |
| 19:52.17 | Ahli | hi bibendus ;D |
| 19:52.38 | Ahli | uhm, I don't think so |
| 19:52.51 | ThunderLord | ))= |
| 19:54.08 | Ahli | this is the stump for a custom status bar: http://pastebin.com/px6RSad8 |
| 19:54.39 | Ahli | CaptureStatus is just a name |
| 19:55.18 | Ahli | inside attach point frame we can add our own stuff |
| 19:55.24 | Ahli | like images |
| 19:55.52 | Ahli | the actor needs the name of the statusbar in its custom status bar text field. |
| 19:56.11 | Ahli | maybe it was more than that... can't remember |
| 19:56.31 | ThunderLord | ill check it out later |
| 19:56.35 | ThunderLord | thanks! |
| 19:57.43 | Ahli | renee wrote a few lines about that, too: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/6231594160?page=4#70 |
| 19:58.18 | ThunderLord | cool |
| 19:58.27 | ThunderLord | thanks |
| 20:01.40 | Ahli | for my example, the entry in the actor would be: FieldWarpGate (Unnamed) Combat: Custom Unit Status FrameCustomUnitStatusBar/CaptureStatus |
| 20:03.54 | ThunderLord | i see |
| 20:04.35 | ThunderLord | thats cool |
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| 20:21.26 | duckies | thanks monk :D |
| 21:02.09 | Bibendus | oh ahli |
| 21:02.26 | Bibendus | he left |
| 21:02.27 | Bibendus | :d |
| 21:02.37 | Bibendus | btw yes I use the custom barz |
| 21:02.38 | Ahli | hi |
| 21:06.50 | Otixa | hits Bibendus with a stick |
| 21:07.04 | Bibendus | uhhh hello oti |
| 21:07.09 | Bibendus | long time no see |
| 21:07.09 | Bibendus | :P |
| 21:07.21 | Otixa | ;) |
| 21:14.28 | Zolden | what "Beningn" means in weapon filter? |
| 21:14.43 | Zolden | Benign |
| 21:15.02 | Zolden | why does normal attah has it excluded? |
| 21:15.09 | Zolden | *normal attack |
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| 21:40.46 | Fenix_ | Hey, How can I make the map use the Black mask for some regions (to entirely hide a spot) and the normal explored/unexplored grey mask (which would be the play area) |
| 21:42.13 | Fenix_ | is that possible to have kind of 4 fog of wars... black, dark, grey, light grey |
| 21:42.30 | Fenix_ | eh black, grey, lightgrey |
| 21:42.32 | Fenix_ | 3 |
| 21:45.12 | Fenix_ | anyone know? |
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| 21:54.34 | Nytemare3701 | Good afternoon! |
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| 22:01.11 | Taintedwisp | Hey everoyne |
| 22:01.55 | Taintedwisp | I got bored, so I decided to make a Forum for my Map :P, its pretty good I think, Simple but good enough http://evofrenzy.forumotion.com/ |
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| 22:06.12 | Nytemare3701 | *bothers channel* |
| 22:06.17 | Nytemare3701 | anyone here? |
| 22:06.46 | Zolden | ( . Y . ) |
| 22:07.15 | Zolden | (.Y.) |
| 22:07.46 | Zolden | (Y) |
| 22:07.59 | Zolden | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:08.02 | Zolden | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:08.12 | Zolden | it's flower from mario |
| 22:08.13 | Taintedwisp | hey |
| 22:08.15 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:08.17 | Zolden | from the tube |
| 22:08.28 | Nytemare3701 | Well then. |
| 22:09.40 | Nytemare3701 | I've got a question for some experienced mapmakers. I've got a base survival map I've already done 90% of the legwork for, but I'm burning out fast. Does anyone want to help finish this thing before I just dump it? |
| 22:10.21 | Nytemare3701 | It's mostly a matter of reversing the gas/mineral costs on every unit in the game. |
| 22:10.25 | Nytemare3701 | T-T |
| 22:11.28 | Otixa | revises Nytemare3701 with a brick to the skull |
| 22:11.57 | Nytemare3701 | I take that as a no then. I'll be on my way. |
| 22:13.44 | Zolden | Nytemare3701: it's simple: you need the result -> you map, you don't need the result -> you don't map |
| 22:14.52 | Zolden | hitler realised that he don't want the eaurasia conquered, so he let others to beat him |
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| 22:18.28 | Otixa | Thus, all mappers are nazis |
| 22:18.30 | Otixa | nods |
| 22:19.13 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:19.24 | Taintedwisp | now to spam my crappy forum!! |
| 22:19.24 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/user/taintedwisp |
| 22:19.30 | Taintedwisp | http://evofrenzy.forumotion.com/ |
| 22:20.12 | Otixa | kicks Taintedwisp in the sack |
| 22:20.51 | Taintedwisp | Flips Otixa the bird |
| 22:21.23 | Taintedwisp | sorry my sac is too large for it to feel your foot |
| 22:21.43 | Otixa | Elephantitis, eh? |
| 22:21.57 | Otixa | sells Taintedwisp to the circus |
| 22:22.57 | Taintedwisp | noo i just have big testies... |
| 22:23.02 | Taintedwisp | big pecker too |
| 22:23.25 | Otixa | Goes from A to Z on the keyboard, eh? :D |
| 22:23.30 | Otixa | pats Taintedwisp on the head |
| 22:23.39 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:23.53 | Taintedwisp | nooo, goes from caps lock to nums lock... |
| 22:24.06 | Taintedwisp | then locks in your mother mouth |
| 22:24.24 | Otixa | Sure, sure. Enjoy your hand |
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| 22:49.15 | Taintedwisp | Well there, its done to a point where I am happy with it |
| 22:49.16 | Taintedwisp | http://evofrenzy.forumotion.com/ |
| 22:49.38 | Taintedwisp | I might end up paying the 20$ a year to get Evofrenzy.com from forumotion. |
| 22:49.59 | Triceron | man tainted, you can be such an ass sometimes |
| 22:50.20 | Triceron | guy says 'hello I'm new to the forums' |
| 22:50.28 | Triceron | and you ream him out for being 11 or something |
| 22:52.02 | Taintedwisp | hahah |
| 22:52.08 | Taintedwisp | I was just being honest |
| 22:52.10 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:52.21 | Taintedwisp | anyways I pointed him in the right direction |
| 22:52.33 | Triceron | you got your post deleted |
| 22:52.42 | Otixa | hai Triceron |
| 22:52.51 | Triceron | ahoy Otixa |
| 22:53.00 | Otixa | Taintedwisp is like 16 or something himself, so eh ;p |
| 22:53.07 | Otixa | What'd ya expect? :B |
| 22:53.26 | Taintedwisp | im 20 |
| 22:53.38 | Taintedwisp | What? meh, EW never liked me in the first place... doesnt matter though.. |
| 22:53.51 | Otixa | Well, you're pretty infantile for being 20 ;P |
| 22:54.08 | Otixa | Triceron, did ya try dDo yet? |
| 22:54.20 | Triceron | no, porlly not for another couple weeks |
| 22:54.25 | Otixa | :< |
| 22:54.43 | Otixa | I'm still waiting for a patch that would make it work for me ;\ |
| 22:54.50 | Triceron | you cant get it working? |
| 22:54.54 | Otixa | noe |
| 22:54.58 | Triceron | what happens? |
| 22:55.04 | Triceron | doesn't install? doesn't load? |
| 22:55.08 | Otixa | I start it, it starts PS and just sits in tray |
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| 22:55.18 | Otixa | Doesn't doe anything else ;\ |
| 22:55.20 | Triceron | hrm, that sucks |
| 22:55.26 | Taintedwisp | Well Whatever if EW wants to piss his pants off, becuase i suggested that an 11 year old kid learn a few things ( in this case I ment photoshop, and other terminology), since he said he couldnt understand blizzards Simplified tutorials, then whatever... If he cant understnad blizzards tutorials hes not going to understand ours... |
| 22:55.28 | Otixa | One other guy had the same problem @ polycount forums |
| 22:55.34 | Dryeyece | Sup Triceron 8-) |
| 22:55.34 | Otixa | But noone replied to him either |
| 22:55.38 | Otixa | So kinda stuck ;| |
| 22:56.03 | Triceron | Hey Dry |
| 22:56.18 | Otixa | Also, trying out Max's retopo tools |
| 22:56.23 | Otixa | They make me very angry |
| 22:56.24 | Triceron | could it be PS version? |
| 22:56.33 | Otixa | Well, it says it's supported |
| 22:56.36 | Triceron | hrm |
| 22:56.40 | Otixa | CS6 Ext |
| 22:56.46 | Otixa | But eh, dunno ;/ |
| 22:56.55 | Otixa | Will just give it a few more days and check again |
| 22:57.02 | Otixa | They're rolling out patches constantly |
| 22:57.10 | Triceron | yeah, someone's bound to respond to that post |
| 22:57.29 | Otixa | Should prolly make a thread on the official forums |
| 22:57.44 | Otixa | Tho, afaik, the devs are monitoring the PC thread aswell |
| 22:58.22 | Otixa | But yeh |
| 22:58.39 | Otixa | Found out that the Max graphite modeling tools thing has a retopo feature |
| 22:58.48 | Otixa | Where you can draw lines that form geo |
| 22:58.51 | Otixa | Like Topogun |
| 22:58.58 | Otixa | Except broken and unusable ;p |
| 22:59.18 | Triceron | haha |
| 22:59.28 | Otixa | Should have just retopo'd in Zbrush ;\ |
| 22:59.39 | Triceron | yeah, that's what I usually do |
| 22:59.48 | Triceron | it's just more efficient to the pipeline |
| 22:59.58 | Otixa | Well, I was gonna use my highpoly cage for the lowpoly base |
| 22:59.58 | Triceron | I like topogun |
| 23:00.07 | Triceron | but I hate having to export files and import every time |
| 23:00.15 | Otixa | But then realized that my geo is too whacky and doesn't conform after sculpting |
| 23:01.01 | Otixa | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/Models/HappyFunTimes.jpg |
| 23:01.02 | Otixa | ;p |
| 23:01.46 | Taintedwisp | There i replied to EW acting like a child along with some of the EU members... and taking things outta context... |
| 23:03.14 | Triceron | is that like a brazier? |
| 23:03.34 | Otixa | yeh |
| 23:03.55 | Otixa | Gotta make a darksiders sort of scene for iOS |
| 23:04.16 | Otixa | handpainted everything :| |
| 23:04.59 | Otixa | inb4this doesn't bake properly |
| 23:06.36 | Triceron | love the darksiders style |
| 23:06.54 | Otixa | Mine doesn't look too much like it tbh |
| 23:07.02 | Otixa | But looks alright imo |
| 23:07.14 | Otixa | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/Models/DS_WIP2.jpg |
| 23:07.18 | Otixa | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/Models/WIP1.jpg |
| 23:08.10 | Triceron | the windows are nice |
| 23:08.20 | Otixa | ty :> |
| 23:08.24 | Triceron | the scene's a bit dark to make out the rest |
| 23:08.44 | Triceron | I like the low hanging chains though |
| 23:09.11 | Otixa | They'll have yellow glowing grystals hanging in the middle |
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| 23:09.42 | Triceron | I think the pillars could usesome flair on the sides too |
| 23:10.03 | Triceron | something simple like just indenting them or adding a banner or cracks |
| 23:10.17 | Otixa | Yeah, I plan on having red banner modules |
| 23:10.24 | Otixa | That go on the side of every other pillar |
| 23:12.46 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bmam9-aUQGg |
| 23:12.48 | Taintedwisp | lol |
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| 23:32.42 | Zolden | fuck yea |
| 23:32.48 | Zolden | 10 attacks a day |
| 23:33.06 | Zolden | with all fucking models, effects, buffs, validators and motherfucking abilities |
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| 23:48.46 | Taintedwisp | Hey Thunderlord |
| 23:48.52 | ThunderLord | Sup |
| 23:48.55 | Taintedwisp | you see my Forums? |
| 23:49.00 | ThunderLord | i did |
| 23:49.04 | ThunderLord | pretty cool stuff |
| 23:49.30 | ThunderLord | looks better than yesterday =P |
| 23:49.31 | Taintedwisp | Thanks, I figure it will last until i either pay to get it on its own domain or get a full site, forumotion also supports a homepage, and media pages, etc |
| 23:50.20 | Taintedwisp | I probably will just have it put on its own domain, its only 20$ a year :P, also it supports HTML pages, so I can add any page that I really wanty |
| 23:50.27 | ThunderLord | oh yeah, i cant see why you would ever need anything more than that for a game mod tho |
| 23:50.33 | ThunderLord | you got forums |
| 23:50.35 | ThunderLord | homepage |
| 23:50.37 | ThunderLord | yeah |
| 23:50.44 | ThunderLord | pretty good, everything you need |
| 23:50.50 | Taintedwisp | yup |
| 23:51.14 | Taintedwisp | and the source code is available to so If I really wanted to I could change it 100% |
| 23:51.22 | Taintedwisp | Storage is low, but I can change that for 5$ |
| 23:51.58 | Taintedwisp | OH, I got warned on Sc2mapster forums lawl |
| 23:52.41 | A1win | why am I not surprised |
| 23:53.08 | Taintedwisp | for suggesting that an 11 year old comes back when hes older :P. I still stick by it, i dont see him being able to do Data nor triggers, without atleast basic Algebra and most of the tutorials are written with 8th GL or higher |
| 23:53.53 | Taintedwisp | its all good though |
| 23:53.57 | Ahli | he can still place units on the map and enjoy it... he can still change hp values of units, etc |
| 23:54.12 | Taintedwisp | yeah, true, but he wont be able to do the things he was describing |
| 23:54.19 | ThunderLord | I started WC3 editing when i was 10 |
| 23:54.25 | Taintedwisp | that was WC3 though |
| 23:54.43 | Ahli | he can still grow up to become the ultimate mastermind in wc4 mapmaking |
| 23:54.47 | ThunderLord | had my first Frenzy Style Map with i was 13 |
| 23:55.00 | ThunderLord | Started my current project when i was 16 |
| 23:55.04 | Taintedwisp | :P yeah, Well i suggested he come back when hes older, but I also gave him directions to the tutorials page... |
| 23:55.11 | ThunderLord | lol |
| 23:55.13 | ThunderLord | thats good |
| 23:55.40 | Taintedwisp | then 3 douchebags took things outta context, EW came deleted my post, and no one of the 8 post after mine told him anyhting but Welcome... |
| 23:56.02 | Taintedwisp | So I reposted, Said a note to EW, and then Linked him to the actual tutorial he was looking for |
| 23:56.11 | ThunderLord | I basically learned basic programming from teaching myself in WC3 triggers, and forums |
| 23:56.33 | ThunderLord | wow lol |
| 23:56.39 | ThunderLord | where? |
| 23:56.41 | ThunderLord | i wana see |
| 23:57.36 | Taintedwisp | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/off-topic/45929-hello-you-can-call-me-stormy/#p11 |
| 23:57.58 | Taintedwisp | < learned Dos language at 6... :P |
| 23:58.15 | Taintedwisp | But that was dos, and that was only because I wanted to play my floppy disk tom and jerry |
| 23:58.50 | ThunderLord | Poney... |
| 23:58.54 | ThunderLord | hate bronies... |
| 23:59.31 | Taintedwisp | yup.. |
| 23:59.36 | Taintedwisp | But hes only 11 so I let that go |
| 23:59.42 | Taintedwisp | now if he was like 13-15 ... |
| 23:59.44 | Taintedwisp | ehhh |
| 23:59.44 | Taintedwisp | lol |
