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| 01:50.31 | MasterReY | yoyo |
| 01:50.33 | MasterReY | anyone here? |
| 01:50.50 | MasterReY | Whats the difference between Text and String?^^ |
| 01:51.11 | MasterReY | I was a bit inconsistent in my map and now i need to convert back and forth |
| 01:51.22 | MasterReY | but i cant convert a Text to a String :( |
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| 01:53.40 | zlefin | can you make a terrain doodad which BOTH blocks line of sight on ground AND hides non-massive ground units from air units? |
| 01:54.54 | A1win | MasterReY, Text is a localized string basically, which is why you can't read their value with triggers as they can be different for each player |
| 01:55.11 | MasterReY | hm |
| 01:55.26 | MasterReY | so its always better to use strings deep inside of the code |
| 01:55.28 | MasterReY | ? |
| 01:55.32 | A1win | when you display a string, it's automatically converted into text by the game |
| 01:55.55 | A1win | well, unless you are planning to make a localization of your map, you could use strings |
| 01:55.56 | ckSynergy | zlefin: I dont see why not. Just look into the doodad's footprints |
| 01:56.16 | ckSynergy | you cant specify "non-massive" though |
| 01:56.19 | A1win | if you use texts, you can translate your map into another language without too much trouble |
| 01:56.22 | A1win | I mean |
| 01:56.36 | A1win | you need the texts to be Text in order to be able to translate it to other localizations |
| 01:56.38 | MasterReY | i dont really want to do that right now haha |
| 01:56.43 | MasterReY | kk |
| 01:56.46 | MasterReY | thanks for the info |
| 01:56.54 | A1win | yeah I've used Strings since they take less time to load by the editor :P |
| 01:57.01 | MasterReY | ye |
| 01:57.04 | MasterReY | thought so |
| 01:57.09 | A1win | also use Strings for anything that is not actual readable text |
| 01:57.17 | A1win | like if you want to display some special characters for some purpose |
| 01:57.30 | MasterReY | damn |
| 01:57.36 | A1win | well I mean |
| 01:57.40 | MasterReY | now i have 30 Text variables which should be strings |
| 01:57.43 | MasterReY | t-------------------t |
| 01:57.50 | A1win | nvm |
| 01:57.55 | A1win | ;p |
| 01:58.05 | A1win | btw, when you create a dialog item, it has "" as its tooltip |
| 01:58.23 | A1win | that's also a text, which should rather be No Text so that it doesn't eat up resources |
| 01:58.34 | MasterReY | oh ok |
| 01:58.49 | MasterReY | so manually set tooltip of a dialog to "no text" after you create a dialog? |
| 01:58.52 | MasterReY | each time? |
| 01:58.57 | MasterReY | to improve performace? |
| 01:59.10 | A1win | no I mean the function you use to create a dialog item |
| 01:59.15 | A1win | in the GUI |
| 01:59.22 | A1win | it has it set to "" by default |
| 01:59.39 | A1win | it's mainly for increasing editor performance though |
| 01:59.42 | MasterReY | ah it has the tooltip text in the "dialog creation" action directly right? |
| 01:59.43 | MasterReY | ^^ |
| 01:59.55 | zlefin | i looked thru the doodad footprints, i didn't see any that hide ground from air |
| 01:59.58 | A1win | otherwise it's just an additional empty text entry in the localization file |
| 02:00.05 | A1win | MasterReY, yeah |
| 02:00.21 | A1win | zlefin, I don't think it's possible |
| 02:00.30 | A1win | units have "vision height" value though |
| 02:00.37 | A1win | not sure what it is for air units or if it affects them in any way |
| 02:01.03 | A1win | but colossus for example I think has a higher vision height than normal ground units |
| 02:01.07 | A1win | so it sees up cliffs |
| 02:01.14 | MasterReY | so any idea how to get 30 text variables to 30 string vcariables without re-doing every single one? t-t |
| 02:01.17 | A1win | like the reaper combat awareness ability in hots |
| 02:01.18 | MasterReY | they are rather complex |
| 02:01.29 | A1win | not really |
| 02:01.34 | MasterReY | oh well |
| 02:01.39 | zlefin | hmmm, well, i'll have to ask blizz toa dd it then |
| 02:01.39 | A1win | but you don't really need to do it |
| 02:01.43 | MasterReY | ya |
| 02:01.48 | zlefin | would really open up map design possibilities; |
| 02:01.52 | MasterReY | ill keep it as texts right now |
| 02:01.58 | MasterReY | and when im really bored ill change it |
| 02:02.00 | zlefin | realistic too, to have some terrain that's hard to find small units in |
| 02:02.11 | MasterReY | problem is now i have strings and texts |
| 02:02.22 | MasterReY | which will get merged into one dialog label |
| 02:02.23 | MasterReY | ^^ |
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| 02:02.43 | ckSynergy | ah yea I forgot about unit vision height |
| 02:02.43 | A1win | zlefin, "a wild pikachu appears!"? |
| 02:02.56 | A1win | I mean zergling |
| 02:03.02 | A1win | damn, ruined it |
| 02:03.09 | ckSynergy | lol |
| 02:03.21 | Taintedwisp | Deadzergling, what sup\\ |
| 02:03.46 | A1win | MasterReY, that's not a problem |
| 02:03.56 | A1win | they all get converted into text by the game in the end |
| 02:03.59 | ckSynergy | can anyone think of a way to refer to a bank string or a variable via a UI or text |
| 02:04.07 | MasterReY | i guess its not, but it looks awful in the code |
| 02:04.11 | A1win | heh |
| 02:04.21 | MasterReY | i need to use "Combine Texts multiple" |
| 02:04.31 | MasterReY | and "convert string to text" in one of them^^ |
| 02:04.33 | A1win | MasterReY, use Expression, much simpler |
| 02:04.39 | MasterReY | Expression? |
| 02:04.51 | A1win | it's a tab in the value selection window |
| 02:05.08 | A1win | where you have functions, presets, variables, parameters, value, custom script... there's also expression tab |
| 02:05.14 | MasterReY | ah yeah |
| 02:05.15 | A1win | that's useful for combining things |
| 02:05.24 | MasterReY | i never used that because i dont know what it is t-t |
| 02:05.28 | A1win | :P |
| 02:05.29 | A1win | well now you do |
| 02:06.27 | A1win | you can write the value in it, and insert "variables" in the middle of it as ~A~, ~B~ and so on, and then give values to those |
| 02:06.50 | ckSynergy | expression is nice, but still a little too glitchy |
| 02:06.54 | MasterReY | hm |
| 02:07.05 | MasterReY | so it saves all the "Combine" actions basically? |
| 02:07.11 | A1win | MasterReY, yeah |
| 02:07.23 | A1win | and yeah it could be better, but it's a lot better than what we had before it |
| 02:07.44 | ckSynergy | yea |
| 02:07.45 | ckSynergy | true |
| 02:07.52 | A1win | MasterReY, you could write something like "Hello ~A~!" in the expression and replace that ~A~ with a player name |
| 02:08.06 | MasterReY | kk |
| 02:08.08 | MasterReY | i understand |
| 02:08.12 | A1win | just like combining "Hello " and player name |
| 02:08.17 | A1win | and "!" |
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| 02:08.25 | MasterReY | ya thats useful |
| 02:08.45 | MasterReY | i have a alot of strings where i have a few words and then a variable then 2-3 more words and another variable etc |
| 02:08.55 | A1win | mm |
| 02:08.56 | MasterReY | all combined with "combine multiple" |
| 02:09.02 | A1win | I had a lot of those too <.< |
| 02:09.07 | MasterReY | sad thing is |
| 02:09.10 | A1win | still got some, too lazy to chang eall |
| 02:09.12 | A1win | *change all |
| 02:09.12 | MasterReY | i just made them 3 days ago |
| 02:09.14 | MasterReY | t-t |
| 02:09.17 | A1win | hehe |
| 02:09.31 | A1win | well just change them whenever you are editing those parts of the triggers |
| 02:09.36 | MasterReY | yeah |
| 02:09.38 | MasterReY | ^^ |
| 02:09.41 | A1win | don't fix what's not broken ;p |
| 02:09.47 | MasterReY | ye |
| 02:20.28 | MasterReY | damn i need to sleep |
| 02:20.39 | MasterReY | worked around 4 hours on my map now |
| 02:20.44 | MasterReY | and its 3:20am |
| 02:22.47 | ckSynergy | Would be nice if blizzard added a "Set dialog item shortcut" command |
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| 08:18.46 | TwoDie | ~hello |
| 08:18.46 | purl | Howdy Bub |
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| 09:15.58 | Ahli | f*ck... I killed staredit.net with a search |
| 10:00.42 | DeadZergling | cool, finally figured out how to get zolden's models to work |
| 10:01.14 | DeadZergling | stupid editor, wouldn't work when I exported them from a map, but save the map as sc2components, then load them from there, then it works perfect, lol |
| 10:11.17 | TwoDie | how to get from string number of symbols? detect if its number or letter? or detect if there are numbers with letters involved? Seeking to make seed value so. |
| 10:16.17 | TwoDie | ~char |
| 10:16.27 | TwoDie | ~string |
| 10:16.40 | TwoDie | ~letter |
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| 10:58.59 | DeadZergling | hello zolden |
| 10:59.38 | Zolden | hey |
| 11:00.21 | TwoDie | hello! |
| 11:00.25 | TwoDie | ~hi |
| 11:00.25 | purl | hello, twodie |
| 11:00.34 | TwoDie | ~good morning |
| 11:00.34 | purl | Good morning, good! Have a cookie... oh no! The cookie jar is dry! |
| 11:00.49 | TwoDie | ~good day |
| 11:00.49 | purl | Good day, good! Have a cookie... oh no! The cookie jar is dry! |
| 11:01.36 | TwoDie | since zolden is here so question he may be able to answer is: how to get from string number of symbols? detect if its number or letter? or detect if there are numbers with letters involved? Seeking to make seed value so. |
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| 11:06.14 | Zolden | TwoDie: so, you have a mix of numbers and symbols, and you want to count symbols? |
| 11:06.50 | TwoDie | no i need only numbers from enter values in the text edit box dialog item |
| 11:08.09 | Zolden | it will return a string, and you want to create another string, which would contain only numbers? |
| 11:09.42 | TwoDie | yes and want to get entered numbers to be involved in map generation. |
| 11:10.52 | Zolden | check wiki - what functions we have to analyse strings |
| 11:10.58 | Zolden | I never tried this myself |
| 11:11.55 | TwoDie | noticed that it can convert the string enter in numbers to numbers but if enter any letter there it returns 0 |
| 11:19.05 | Zolden | looks likle you need better solution :) |
| 11:24.01 | TwoDie | well found there something with substring will try out them and if not really helpful then Seed will be set somehow anyway |
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| 11:49.38 | Zolden | TwoDie: maybe allow players to save seed to the bank, and load/suugest it as goa do in his map |
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| 11:52.31 | TwoDie | yeah something have planned have in mind |
| 11:53.18 | TwoDie | btw zolden in which map he have it? :O |
| 11:53.27 | Zolden | random td |
| 12:01.32 | Monkalizer | awww... I really want to have a job in the gaming industry |
| 12:02.14 | TwoDie | create yourself a job set by creating a game! |
| 12:03.16 | Monkalizer | yeah, but I also need cash :) but yeah, that would be good I guess |
| 12:03.42 | Monkalizer | perhaps if I release my mod and make an android game that would be sufficient to get a job somewhere |
| 12:04.18 | Monkalizer | thing is, I also have a almost finished masters degree so I need to think about that to... but its such a boring topic :*( |
| 12:35.23 | Monkalizer | I wonder how many people in this chat room are actally working in the industry |
| 12:35.36 | Zolden | it's a positive feedback which leads humanity to hell: game devs make cool games and turn normal ppl to gamers who only want to work as game devs to make new games to turn more ppl to gamers, it's like a virus, like pandemia, like vampires |
| 12:37.30 | Monkalizer | yeah you are right, wise Zolden |
| 12:37.33 | Monkalizer | :) |
| 12:37.49 | Monkalizer | but im so useless at everything else non-game related so I dont have much of a choice |
| 12:38.55 | Zolden | oh, poor you |
| 12:39.03 | Monkalizer | mhm |
| 12:39.11 | Zolden | i fell tha same, but i'd like to work as ai specialist to create smart robots, it feels funnier than games |
| 12:40.42 | Monkalizer | argh! i dont like pathing algorithms so thats kind of out of my scope |
| 12:41.00 | Monkalizer | I have bad memories from those |
| 12:41.54 | Zolden | you learned them in university? |
| 12:42.33 | Monkalizer | yes |
| 12:42.46 | Monkalizer | it was a bit too mathematical for my taste |
| 12:43.46 | Monkalizer | i got a 4 in that class (= barely passed) because i worked with a friend on the extra tasks who was very bright - and gave us a 10 (top score) I failed the exam but the final score is counted as an average :P |
| 12:44.11 | Zolden | yes, some of ai sections are a bit boring |
| 12:44.14 | Monkalizer | but they are cool once you get to know them a little |
| 12:44.30 | Monkalizer | triggers and logical AI programming is easier and funnier |
| 12:45.27 | Monkalizer | but pathing... uh no. If you want to learn pathing and you are not a math-wiz I suggest you do it from a practical point of view - like take a code snippet and apply it directly. |
| 12:45.34 | Zolden | I like evolutionary algorithms, they kick asses |
| 12:47.03 | Zolden | well, i'm ok with math, it's just a common point: if you're programmer, you must know math good or be able to learn it in sake of your actual task, otherwise u'll be doing some crappy php coding or something like that |
| 12:47.06 | Monkalizer | never heard of those :) but skimming wikipedia makes me think its cool :) |
| 12:47.20 | TwoDie | http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~amitp/game-programming/polygon-map-generation/mapgen2.swf |
| 12:47.49 | Zolden | evolution will rape other ai approaches in the mouth |
| 12:48.06 | Zolden | what's .swf? it jsut downloaded |
| 12:48.23 | Monkalizer | i know... this is why I've been really reluctant to go into gaming... my math skills are really not good at all |
| 12:49.08 | TwoDie | zolden itshouldnt be downloaded |
| 12:49.15 | TwoDie | it can be used in browesr |
| 12:50.21 | Zolden | TwoDie: oh, nice, I know this algorithm |
| 12:50.26 | G0A | dont use IE:D |
| 12:50.36 | Monkalizer | well... i do know some php, it would pay my bills :S |
| 12:50.48 | Zolden | i've used it in my rol map |
| 12:52.50 | Zolden | G0A: I use chrome, it jsut didn't know he can open it, now he knows |
| 12:56.02 | G0A | When will you fix Homm?:D |
| 12:56.14 | Zolden | yes, I will |
| 12:56.33 | G0A | wrong answer:D |
| 12:56.54 | G0A | right answer is: now :D |
| 12:57.16 | Zolden | :) |
| 12:57.27 | Monkalizer | G0A: how is random td progressing? |
| 12:58.16 | G0A | what you mean under progressing? |
| 12:58.43 | Monkalizer | how is the project going? are you still working on it etc? |
| 12:58.51 | G0A | didnt update it since some weeks... (I have a big to do list with it:D) |
| 12:58.53 | DeadZergling | so, I've thought up something else I need Zolden, although I'm thinking the request is probably a bit much, lol |
| 12:59.24 | G0A | Instead I am updating Random slide (cause Ducky), NSS and Final Frontier. |
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| 13:00.14 | Zolden | DeadZergling: tell me what is it |
| 13:00.18 | Zolden | maybe i'll do it |
| 13:00.29 | DeadZergling | lol okay, let me take it to msg |
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| 13:23.10 | Zolden | omg, our retarded goverment's trying to block youtube ;/ |
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| 13:25.40 | Monkalizer | oh noes |
| 13:25.56 | Monkalizer | are they also blocking cat-pictures? |
| 13:26.58 | Monkalizer | I think I should be getting unity after I finish this project, that scene seems to get more exposure |
| 13:27.05 | Monkalizer | from employers |
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| 13:34.55 | TwoDie | ~script |
| 13:34.55 | purl | methinks script is executed when the pwr button is used for sleep/resume |
| 13:35.22 | TwoDie | ~seed |
| 13:35.22 | purl | i heard seed is a generative principle or the past tense of "see", for 'merkins |
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| 13:35.48 | Monkalizer | ~how to get a job in gaming industry |
| 13:36.20 | TwoDie | no candy for you |
| 13:37.32 | G0A | ~be creative |
| 13:37.33 | G0A | :D |
| 13:39.06 | Ahli | zolden, all of youtube or only a few things? |
| 13:39.14 | Zolden | the whole thing |
| 13:39.25 | Ahli | :D that's worse than gema :D |
| 13:39.27 | Zolden | I believe our society won't let them to block it |
| 13:41.41 | Monkalizer | but its not even election? |
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| 13:43.51 | Monkalizer | argh! I want money! Arg! I want to finish my degree! Argh I want to... get a gaming job! NOW ARGHARGHARGH |
| 13:43.57 | Monkalizer | ~argh |
| 13:43.57 | purl | somebody said argh was frustrating |
| 13:46.00 | Zolden | election were kinda cheated, also half of country are ok about totalitarism ;/ |
| 13:46.35 | G0A | Zolden you are from Russia arent you? |
| 13:46.54 | Zolden | yea |
| 13:47.26 | Monkalizer | in sweden 10% is fine with fascists |
| 13:47.33 | Monkalizer | world is a peculiar place |
| 13:47.44 | Zolden | true |
| 13:48.02 | Monkalizer | at least I found my bug |
| 13:48.05 | Zolden | too much stupid ppl around, hope my robots will conquer the world and make it better |
| 13:48.07 | Monkalizer | happiness++ |
| 13:48.14 | Zolden | Monkalizer: greetings |
| 13:48.28 | Monkalizer | well, you better start learning that AI scripting quickly! |
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| 13:50.03 | Zolden | I'd spend more time on it, but mapping tqakes too much, and I can't stop mapping ;/ |
| 13:51.55 | TwoDie | damn just realised that with seed you can cheat by knowing where everything are :/ |
| 13:52.06 | G0A | Zolden you know the Singularity group?:D |
| 13:52.36 | Zolden | what is it? |
| 13:52.47 | Zolden | musical group? |
| 13:53.40 | G0A | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity |
| 13:53.50 | Zolden | TwoDie: yea, smae in Random td, a guy may know how to win on this seed... don't remember anyone ever agreed to use someone's seed |
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| 13:54.39 | Zolden | G0A: ok, lemme read |
| 13:54.40 | G0A | ohh wrong link, wanted this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singularity_Institute |
| 13:55.31 | Monkalizer | G0A and Zolden, would you guys like to help me test my map later today? (in an hour or so) |
| 13:55.50 | Zolden | Monkalizer: yea |
| 13:56.14 | G0A | might be.D |
| 13:56.30 | TwoDie | i would join if you would agree to test my stuff created :/ |
| 13:57.00 | Monkalizer | are you on EU |
| 13:57.27 | TwoDie | y |
| 13:57.39 | Zolden | G0A: they just don't want AI to have balls |
| 13:57.42 | Monkalizer | awsome, then we can have a test run today! |
| 13:58.42 | TwoDie | here is my project progress: http://imageshack.us/f/266/startstuff.png/ |
| 14:01.36 | G0A | Zolden not really, some of them want to merge with the AI, but there some wicked theories by them:D |
| 14:02.43 | G0A | TwoDie hmm I curious how will that work out:D |
| 14:02.45 | Zolden | I think having a badass evil AI is what humanity needs |
| 14:03.39 | G0A | Zolden I think, even a stupid AI would make us extinct.D |
| 14:03.50 | Monkalizer | final solution.... |
| 14:04.10 | Monkalizer | AIrunaction(exterminateIdiots) |
| 14:04.29 | TwoDie | what precisely your worries about? |
| 14:05.10 | Zolden | extinction is what we do now, XX century scared the crap out of us, now humanity is a stupid lazy pig, it needs ufos or ai as an enemy to get back to a progress way |
| 14:05.16 | Monkalizer | aw yeah, my new UI seems to be working.... "smoothely" |
| 14:05.46 | Monkalizer | Zolden: have you read the book Collapse? |
| 14:05.58 | Monkalizer | Or wheat, weapons & virus? |
| 14:06.31 | Zolden | wheat, weapons & virus? <-- thsi one yes, nice one |
| 14:06.51 | Dustin|Work | Morning |
| 14:06.53 | Zolden | collapse - probably not |
| 14:07.20 | G0A | Everybody so optimistic here:D |
| 14:08.48 | Monkalizer | they are really good books |
| 14:09.04 | Zolden | who wrote the collapse? |
| 14:09.26 | Zolden | same guy? |
| 14:09.35 | Monkalizer | collapse is about how humanity have been experiencing extingtion in the past in certain locations, and about how societies evolve in the macro level over time (not 10s of years but 100s of years) |
| 14:09.44 | Monkalizer | yes same guy |
| 14:10.36 | Monkalizer | weapons/wheat/virus is a book against racism and civilizational thinking. It explains why the world looks the way it does today, from a 30 000 year perspective |
| 14:10.37 | Zolden | I read about it in couple of other books, we have an amazing here in russia, dunno if his books are translated |
| 14:16.11 | Zolden | downloaded the collapse one |
| 14:16.15 | Zolden | ty |
| 14:21.41 | Monkalizer | its kind of pessimistic, but also really optimistic |
| 14:22.11 | Zolden | sounds like realistic |
| 14:22.22 | Monkalizer | but the wheat, weapons and virus is better if you ask me. it also won him the pulizer price |
| 14:23.09 | Zolden | yeah, that one was good |
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| 14:31.38 | Monkalizer | aw yeah publishing map/mod |
| 14:33.42 | Monkalizer | how about some testing? |
| 14:33.45 | Monkalizer | Zolden? |
| 14:33.47 | Monkalizer | G0A: |
| 14:34.01 | Monkalizer | TwoDie: ? |
| 14:34.10 | TwoDie | yeah |
| 14:34.30 | TwoDie | sc2mapster channel |
| 14:34.35 | Monkalizer | i'l log in now, if anyone is up for some hercmercin' |
| 14:34.39 | Monkalizer | yes |
| 14:34.57 | G0A | maybe bit later |
| 14:35.20 | Monkalizer | kk |
| 14:35.21 | G0A | or how long will it take? |
| 14:35.44 | Monkalizer | 2 minutes, just want t be shure it loads |
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| 14:35.50 | G0A | k |
| 14:35.57 | G0A | than invite:D |
| 14:37.51 | Zolden | yea, coming |
| 14:37.53 | Zolden | sec |
| 14:38.09 | TwoDie | goa |
| 14:38.11 | TwoDie | GOA |
| 14:38.13 | TwoDie | G)A |
| 14:38.16 | TwoDie | G0A |
| 14:39.54 | Monkalizer | G0A: gogo?!?! |
| 14:40.24 | Monkalizer | Zolden: did you want to join= |
| 14:41.48 | G0A | ups, re:D |
| 14:43.53 | G0A | tictac |
| 14:44.01 | G0A | I load slow:D |
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| 14:58.49 | zenxu | waz up today |
| 14:59.19 | Dustin|Work | Just working and coding |
| 15:00.29 | TwoDie | zolden! |
| 15:03.44 | Zolden | i'm relogging |
| 15:03.49 | Zolden | it's also stuck |
| 15:06.22 | Monkalizer | hm |
| 15:20.42 | TwoDie | G0A |
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| 15:24.40 | Dogmai | ~seen Blizz-Artestru |
| 15:24.48 | purl | blizz-artestru <d8940048@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.148.0.72> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 20h 47m 50s ago, saying: 'Deletarius is doing well, he's on vacation for Thanksgiving right now.'. |
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| 15:35.22 | Ahli | just build a railway across my city running across, next to and on the middle of streets :D |
| 15:36.02 | Zolden | any player controlled units with destruction abilities? |
| 15:36.33 | Ahli | nope |
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| 15:58.04 | Dogmai | Did anyone ever notice that if I don't talk in the chat room it is too quiet |
| 15:58.39 | zenxu | classic dogmai |
| 15:58.57 | Dustin|Work | Not really :P |
| 15:59.03 | Dogmai | yes really |
| 15:59.09 | Dogmai | i keep this logged when I go to bed |
| 15:59.15 | Dogmai | you guys are so boring without me |
| 16:00.35 | Dustin|Work | hehe |
| 16:00.50 | Dustin|Work | No time for fun, I got rubys to code! |
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| 16:02.35 | Dogmai | http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_239215&feature=iv&src_vid=QqaH1aGxcDk&v=OxJgTYXzxzw |
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| 16:09.58 | G0A | People in US are idiots: Dogmai |
| 16:10.13 | Dogmai | people everywhere are idiots mate |
| 16:10.26 | Dogmai | but US idiotism is cute |
| 16:11.21 | Ahli | "people everywhere are idiots mate" this |
| 16:11.49 | Dogmai | you gotta edit the mate out mate |
| 16:11.56 | Dogmai | cause you ain't aussie |
| 16:12.16 | Dogmai | its like saying the N word |
| 16:12.19 | Dogmai | you dont say the M word |
| 16:13.51 | Dogmai | In case you didn't realise I was fucking with you |
| 16:13.55 | Dogmai | but it actually stands true a bit |
| 16:14.07 | Dogmai | Most people who say the word mate don't understand Australian culture |
| 16:14.15 | Dogmai | The context to use it in and especially the tone |
| 16:14.48 | Dogmai | There use to be an ad on youtube for an aussie bear |
| 16:14.54 | Dogmai | beer* and all they said was the word mate |
| 16:14.59 | Dogmai | but using all the different tones |
| 16:15.07 | Dogmai | it made perfect sense if you understood it |
| 16:15.11 | Dogmai | i cant find it though -_- |
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| 16:16.37 | zenxu | continue mate |
| 16:17.08 | Dogmai | son of a bitch |
| 16:17.12 | Dogmai | that was correct |
| 16:17.17 | Dogmai | or at least i read it correctly |
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| 16:17.24 | Dogmai | i bet you didnt pronounce it correctly in your head |
| 16:17.32 | Dogmai | bah, your mind fucking me |
| 16:17.43 | zenxu | touche |
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| 16:19.33 | hobbidude | anyone know how th bring up the materials list in the cutscene editor for doing texturebyid stuff |
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| 16:23.26 | Dogmai | does anyone know the tv series |
| 16:23.32 | Dogmai | where its a light night burger joint |
| 16:23.41 | Dogmai | where the workers are mainly lower-class black people |
| 16:23.50 | Dogmai | and the customers are mid-high class white |
| 16:23.54 | Dogmai | and they swear and shit |
| 16:26.23 | Dogmai | http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_153341&feature=iv&src_vid=_8K73edgn1g&v=5tljCkdAyQI |
| 16:26.26 | Dogmai | for the love of god |
| 16:26.30 | Dogmai | watch the first part of that |
| 16:27.49 | zenxu | o boy did he prove that kid he is not a wimp |
| 16:28.36 | Dogmai | meh, the first one was the only good one |
| 16:28.41 | Dogmai | these are good movies |
| 16:28.45 | Dogmai | and the guys voice is pretty cool |
| 16:28.48 | Dogmai | im watching them backwards |
| 16:29.08 | Dogmai | you should watch the next one |
| 16:29.09 | Dogmai | about cops |
| 16:29.11 | Dogmai | its pretty cool |
| 16:34.35 | Dogmai | ive used an industrial shredder before |
| 16:34.43 | Dogmai | its pretty cool |
| 16:35.27 | hobbidude | anyone famaliar with texturebyid? |
| 16:35.44 | duckies | a tiny bit |
| 16:35.47 | Dogmai | omg |
| 16:35.51 | Dogmai | that guy is asian |
| 16:36.01 | Dogmai | voice does not match |
| 16:36.46 | hobbidude | im wondering if its possible to change the outside glow on the summoning circle but i think it might be built into the model |
| 16:37.43 | duckies | glow=emissive=my graphic settings are too low for me to ever experiment with it :D |
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| 16:42.36 | zenxu | http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=92a_1350186470 |
| 16:42.42 | zenxu | great song |
| 16:48.18 | TwoDie | ~TT |
| 16:48.18 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, tt is the Atari model with a 32-bit bus and 32-bit CPU. The Lord of the Rings, Two Towers. Two Towers Extended edition was released on November 18, 2003. TrollTech See also 'TurnTable' |
| 16:48.44 | zenxu | ~wheres my buffalo |
| 16:48.49 | zenxu | :( |
| 16:49.01 | zenxu | ~where's my buffalo |
| 16:49.02 | TwoDie | ~buff |
| 16:49.03 | hobbidude | stop playing with purl lol |
| 16:49.04 | hobbidude | :) |
| 16:49.14 | hobbidude | ~slap |
| 16:49.14 | purl | ACTION thinks hobbidude should be slapped |
| 16:49.14 | TwoDie | 10$ :/ |
| 16:49.32 | TwoDie | ~age |
| 16:49.32 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, age is You must be 18 years of age or older by April 20, 2009 to be eligible to participate in Google Summer of Code in 2009. |
| 16:50.29 | hobbidude | ~TwoDie |
| 16:52.49 | TwoDie | how to replace Integer 1 to 9 in any seed with 5 numbers (54797) |
| 16:55.47 | Dogmai | you know one of the best things ever |
| 16:55.58 | Dogmai | 5 - + 2 = 3 |
| 16:56.08 | Dogmai | 5 + - 2 = 3 |
| 16:56.25 | zenxu | you have just found answer to everything in the universe; |
| 16:56.30 | Dogmai | i know right |
| 16:56.39 | Dogmai | i just realised that i never stopped to think |
| 16:56.44 | Dogmai | that tiny bit of mathematics law |
| 16:56.48 | Dogmai | makes everything work so easily |
| 16:57.17 | turtles | @TwoDie huh? |
| 16:58.24 | Dogmai | do you remember zenxu, liveleak before it was liveleak |
| 16:58.37 | zenxu | no |
| 16:58.50 | Dogmai | this is why kids should be banned from the interwebs |
| 16:59.43 | zenxu | humm |
| 16:59.50 | TwoDie | turtles nvm seems like something already started working |
| 16:59.57 | zenxu | I even posted that buffalo video for you :( |
| 17:00.33 | Dogmai | i watched it |
| 17:00.36 | Dogmai | not funny -_ |
| 17:00.39 | Dogmai | -_- |
| 17:00.58 | zenxu | it wasnt ment to be funny |
| 17:01.27 | Dogmai | http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f49_1353470338 |
| 17:01.32 | Dogmai | this is better |
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| 17:03.45 | zenxu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr_Rpk9HR1g |
| 17:06.16 | Dogmai | cute |
| 17:08.27 | TwoDie | ~op |
| 17:08.28 | purl | somebody said op was a wallet |
| 17:09.20 | RazielZ | No, op is a faggot |
| 17:10.21 | hobbidude | ~faggot |
| 17:10.21 | purl | faggot is probably a queer who takes it UP THE ASS!!!! |
| 17:10.47 | hobbidude | ~ño |
| 17:11.04 | Ahli | ~dogmai |
| 17:11.04 | purl | hmm... dogmai is my dog and he bites |
| 17:11.23 | hobbidude | ~Ahli |
| 17:11.23 | purl | methinks ahli is always walking upside down with a hat on his ass |
| 17:11.36 | Dogmai | i am not sure who owns that boy |
| 17:11.41 | Dogmai | and who programmed it |
| 17:11.43 | Dogmai | bot* |
| 17:11.49 | Ahli | ~about |
| 17:11.49 | purl | http://www.infobot.org/ - /msg infobot help for a list of commands - http://www.infobot.org/guide-0.43.x.html for a guide |
| 17:12.15 | Ahli | ~kill all humans |
| 17:12.15 | purl | ACTION shoots a ionized neutrino gun at all humans |
| 17:12.24 | hobbidude | ~owner |
| 17:12.24 | purl | TimRiker is my owner |
| 17:12.33 | Ahli | ~TimRiker |
| 17:12.33 | purl | [timriker] a noob who does c/p |
| 17:12.43 | hobbidude | ~noob |
| 17:12.47 | Ahli | ~c/p |
| 17:12.54 | Ahli | ~p |
| 17:12.54 | purl | i guess p is q and not q |
| 17:12.58 | Ahli | ~q |
| 17:12.59 | purl | i guess q is C * V, or quadra |
| 17:13.12 | hobbidude | ~b= |
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| 17:13.26 | hobbidude | ~Monkalizer |
| 17:13.26 | purl | hmm... monkalizer is a non-believer |
| 17:13.35 | hobbidude | lmao |
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| 17:13.37 | Monkalizer | ehhh not that purl again |
| 17:16.56 | Thunder_ | Just curious, how many of you use 2 monitors while u program? |
| 17:18.21 | TwoDie | i would if wouldnt be lazy to connect it |
| 17:18.27 | TwoDie | and then not use it at all |
| 17:18.33 | Zolden | ~2 * 0,1 |
| 17:18.42 | Zolden | ~2 * 0.1 |
| 17:18.42 | purl | 0.2 |
| 17:18.49 | TwoDie | just to see what you writting here and how is noone reply to my questions |
| 17:19.43 | Thunder_ | lol |
| 17:20.18 | Monkalizer | I would do it if I had two. When i was doing some web programming I had a laptop and a screen, one screen for testing and one screen for rendering :) |
| 17:20.25 | Thunder_ | I always use 2, and rite now i dont have my second, and it is frustrating, trying to put in custom texture data and have to keep tabbing between stuff |
| 17:20.45 | Monkalizer | Its really nice to have a "standing"/portrait screen to get an overview |
| 17:21.10 | TwoDie | better to have 2 computers with 4 monitors |
| 17:21.10 | Monkalizer | a large screen compensates for ths of course |
| 17:21.16 | TwoDie | to run more starcraft |
| 17:21.22 | Thunder_ | lolol |
| 17:21.25 | Thunder_ | i agree |
| 17:21.31 | Thunder_ | 4 screens |
| 17:21.42 | turtles | my graphics card can support it but I've never set it up before. I should get a cheap second monitor and try it |
| 17:21.50 | TwoDie | 2 mouses 2 keyboards and a lot of surrounding sounds |
| 17:23.28 | Dustin|Work | Working on anything without dual monitors anymore makes me feel like a caveman lol |
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| 17:36.11 | TwoDie | G0A you here? |
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| 17:37.33 | TwoDie | or anyone else may know how to disallow in Edit Box dialog item to disallow from entering more than desired symbols? or replacing last entered, undesired one symbol, cause now it replaces for me all :/ |
| 17:38.30 | G0A | find sub string and replace it |
| 17:38.40 | G0A | or search index replacement |
| 17:39.28 | TwoDie | at first i need to put my string? |
| 17:39.56 | TwoDie | like im storing it in variable so i need to load it in first field? |
| 17:40.40 | TwoDie | yep. thanks :D |
| 17:42.08 | G0A | see? you can answer yourself.D |
| 17:43.41 | TwoDie | sometimes i reallty do but still im so lonely out here :/ just doing my borring stuff |
| 17:48.09 | TwoDie | ~lonely |
| 17:48.09 | purl | well, lonely is me |
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| 17:48.28 | TwoDie | ~map |
| 17:48.28 | purl | methinks map is You're here ---------------------------> X |
| 17:48.51 | TwoDie | ~mod |
| 17:48.52 | purl | somebody said mod was just Nomad_Wanderer's brain dancing to a tune |
| 17:49.01 | TwoDie | ~starcraft |
| 17:49.01 | purl | The St. Arc Raft is the name of that boat that guy used to get off that island. |
| 17:49.17 | TwoDie | ~blizzard |
| 17:49.17 | purl | hmm... blizzard is the best developer ever. or at least eyonix says so. |
| 17:50.31 | TwoDie | ~data |
| 17:50.31 | purl | Don't Ask To Ask. Just ASK |
| 17:51.22 | Ahli | time to add more civilians to my city |
| 17:52.26 | TwoDie | ~huh |
| 17:52.26 | purl | Welcome to ICQ. |
| 17:53.29 | Ahli | ~icq |
| 17:53.30 | purl | [icq] http://www.lintux.cx/bitlbee.html for a IRC to other chat networks gatewayask me about 'messenging' for generic messenger programs |
| 17:53.39 | Zolden | just finished the model: http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/33/245/msu_opaque.jpg |
| 17:53.40 | Ahli | ~mail |
| 17:53.40 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, mail is on it's way |
| 17:54.01 | Ahli | sick model :D |
| 17:54.06 | Thunder_ | daym zolden |
| 17:54.18 | Zolden | :) |
| 17:54.42 | Zolden | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/33/249/msu_glass_2.jpg |
| 17:55.12 | Thunder_ | wow |
| 17:55.15 | Thunder_ | that is cool too |
| 17:55.19 | Thunder_ | that glass stuff |
| 17:55.38 | Zolden | it's the material forceshield uses |
| 17:55.54 | Zolden | or the cloacked units |
| 17:56.03 | Thunder_ | can i download that somewhere? |
| 17:56.12 | Thunder_ | is it on mapster? |
| 17:56.47 | Zolden | yes, I will turn some simple geometrical primitives and some sc2 models like pylons into glass and release it for everyone |
| 17:57.07 | Zolden | soon it will be in assests |
| 17:57.08 | Thunder_ | cool! |
| 17:57.20 | Thunder_ | yeah ill def use that |
| 17:57.32 | Thunder_ | i have forcefield walls in my game |
| 17:57.34 | Thunder_ | and it is... |
| 17:57.40 | Thunder_ | like 10 forcefields in a line |
| 17:57.47 | Thunder_ | lol |
| 17:57.53 | Zolden | wait, i'll give you that cube right now if you need it |
| 17:58.00 | Thunder_ | so one long forcefield |
| 17:58.03 | Zolden | it has teamcolored tint |
| 17:58.20 | Thunder_ | oh yeah |
| 17:58.21 | Thunder_ | if u have that ready |
| 17:58.22 | Thunder_ | and u dont mine |
| 17:58.24 | Thunder_ | ide def use it |
| 17:58.34 | Thunder_ | if u dont minde* |
| 18:03.17 | Zolden | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/33/250/glass_cube.rar |
| 18:03.57 | Zolden | texture must be in root |
| 18:04.32 | Thunder_ | Awesome |
| 18:04.33 | Thunder_ | thanks! |
| 18:06.15 | TwoDie | ~gz |
| 18:06.21 | TwoDie | ~congrats |
| 18:06.26 | TwoDie | ~congratz |
| 18:06.34 | TwoDie | ~congratualations |
| 18:06.38 | TwoDie | ~fuck it |
| 18:06.55 | TwoDie | ~congratulation |
| 18:07.02 | TwoDie | ~TT |
| 18:07.03 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, tt is the Atari model with a 32-bit bus and 32-bit CPU. The Lord of the Rings, Two Towers. Two Towers Extended edition was released on November 18, 2003. TrollTech See also 'TurnTable' |
| 18:07.03 | Ahli | ~gratz |
| 18:10.53 | Zolden | Thunder_: could you show a screenshot of how do you use it? |
| 18:11.40 | Thunder_ | sure, im importing a few models and textures atm, and i will have to do some work with pathing, so it will take me a lil bit before i am totally done with it, but i definately will |
| 18:12.11 | Thunder_ | basically i will use it for one of my heros who has the ability to throw up a wall of force fields |
| 18:12.34 | Thunder_ | only instead of 10 force fields next to eachother, it will be one long, continuous forcefield |
| 18:18.08 | Zolden | alright |
| 18:20.00 | TwoDie | god damn it 2 hours trying to make Edit Box dialog item to work perfectly with seed shit |
| 18:21.25 | Ahli | zolden, wanna see my city? I'm using about half of the map now... |
| 18:21.31 | Zolden | sure |
| 18:21.33 | Zolden | coming |
| 18:21.53 | Ahli | if anyone else wants to see it... EU bnet |
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| 18:32.25 | TwoDie | Ahli mEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 18:33.47 | Ahli | k |
| 18:34.36 | Ahli | g0a |
| 18:40.32 | G0A | ? |
| 18:47.21 | Ahli | I wanted to ask you if you want to see my traffic stuff for the trigger challenge, but you were afk |
| 18:47.38 | G0A | traffic stuff? |
| 18:47.58 | Ahli | my attempt for http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/triggers/44401-triggering-monthly-exercise-7-city-traffic/#p9 |
| 18:48.59 | Ahli | birds create dark areas by static shadows |
| 18:49.03 | Ahli | -.- |
| 18:49.31 | G0A | Since you are putting so much effort into it, YOU MUST TURN IT INTO CARMAGEDDON! |
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| 18:49.55 | Ahli | you can do that then |
| 18:50.28 | Ahli | I will release it to public tomorrow or in 2 days... |
| 18:50.43 | G0A | well if you dont do it, I migth do it.D |
| 18:52.57 | TwoDie | http://youtu.be/0SPFU1S2in0 |
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| 18:57.07 | Zolden | yeah, turn it into carmageddon!!! |
| 18:57.28 | Dustin|Work | I love carmageddon |
| 18:57.37 | Dustin|Work | we need a twisted metal map |
| 18:57.43 | Zolden | who doesn't like carmageddon |
| 18:57.52 | Dustin|Work | prob nazis |
| 18:57.58 | Dustin|Work | and tree huggers |
| 18:58.14 | Dustin|Work | and Taintedwisp |
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| 19:16.47 | Triceron | pew pew |
| 19:20.10 | Zolden | hey |
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| 19:33.14 | Monkalizer | whoho! new dishwasher, no more dishing by hand! |
| 19:34.44 | zenxu | Another day I wasted |
| 19:34.47 | zenxu | shame on me :( |
| 19:36.43 | Zolden | what do you call waste a day? |
| 19:37.57 | zenxu | not doing things Im suppoe to do |
| 19:40.02 | Zolden | what you did instead? |
| 19:40.14 | zenxu | pretty much hang out on internetz |
| 19:40.14 | Zolden | and what you supposed to do? |
| 19:40.18 | zenxu | and some java :( |
| 19:40.21 | zenxu | some school stuff |
| 19:40.28 | Zolden | oh, internet is a time destroyer |
| 19:40.36 | zenxu | yea |
| 19:40.47 | zenxu | I bet I would do more stuff without it :/ |
| 19:41.00 | zenxu | I sorta feel like its just become a bad habbit |
| 19:42.28 | Zolden | when I have important things to do, I don't connect until all's done, otherwise nothing will be done |
| 19:42.42 | Zolden | it's an addiction, like weed |
| 19:43.09 | Zolden | even harder, I feel easier without weed |
| 19:43.10 | zenxu | I should do that too I guess |
| 19:43.24 | Zolden | you won't |
| 19:43.27 | Zolden | u're weak! |
| 19:43.29 | zenxu | somehow just feels like "Ill do it later"...then later "why didnt I do it before" |
| 19:43.32 | zenxu | brain is such a scumbag |
| 19:43.36 | Zolden | :)) |
| 19:43.37 | Zolden | yeah |
| 19:44.47 | TwoDie | ~laugh |
| 19:44.47 | purl | ACTION rolls around on the floor laughing |
| 19:48.26 | TwoDie | damn with this new generation window and system everything is so fucked up.... |
| 19:48.41 | TwoDie | it will take forever to fix it |
| 19:48.54 | TwoDie | mostly the AI to make from scratch |
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| 19:50.06 | Monkalizer | zenxu have similar problems |
| 19:50.26 | Monkalizer | the worst thing you can do is to be unproductive = watching tv or just... consume stuff |
| 19:50.39 | Monkalizer | as long as your brain is active, I call it a good day. |
| 19:50.42 | Monkalizer | :) |
| 19:51.46 | zenxu | worst part is |
| 19:51.53 | zenxu | I think about stuff I should have done daily |
| 19:51.56 | zenxu | instead of doing it |
| 19:52.12 | Monkalizer | yeah, procrastrination is hell |
| 19:52.13 | zenxu | I think I do stuff like 1 day a week and think about it 6 days a week :D |
| 19:52.24 | Monkalizer | and the more anxiety you build the harder it is to get started |
| 19:52.34 | zenxu | I think its the opposite |
| 19:52.45 | zenxu | since when i get too much anxiety Ill do sometyhing |
| 19:52.53 | zenxu | then I go to think mode afterwards :D |
| 19:55.12 | Monkalizer | When I have to work on project A i get stressed and anxious. Then I start project B so I wont have to think about project A. Then I get involved into project B and it becomes stressfull, so I start project C... |
| 19:57.20 | zenxu | sounds hard |
| 19:57.23 | zenxu | I only got 1 project |
| 19:57.35 | zenxu | well I guess you could say 2 |
| 19:57.51 | zenxu | and ofc I tend to spend time on the less important one :D |
| 19:59.10 | Monkalizer | it is... but yeah, my point is the only way to get through it is to face that anxiety :( |
| 20:00.40 | zenxu | yea |
| 20:00.55 | zenxu | Iv been doing my school stuff while we had this conversation |
| 20:01.05 | zenxu | allthou spending like 30mins is too little |
| 20:01.09 | zenxu | I need to spend DAYS |
| 20:01.11 | zenxu | :/ |
| 20:01.48 | Monkalizer | but you are doing it! :) |
| 20:01.55 | zenxu | yea |
| 20:02.06 | zenxu | its pretty late so cant spent much mroe time |
| 20:02.11 | zenxu | sleep is more important than anything else |
| 20:02.18 | Monkalizer | anxiety is like a bump, it washes over you like a shockwave but then it settles a little |
| 20:02.19 | zenxu | if you dont sleep you are fucked next day |
| 20:02.26 | Monkalizer | true true |
| 20:02.28 | Monkalizer | and eating |
| 20:03.28 | zenxu | y |
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| 20:13.32 | Fenix_ | hello all, where does the warping in sound starts? I mean.. i copied a protoss building and messed around with it but now the warping sound doesn't work when you build it. Is it in the build ability, the unit, the actors... and how to make it works again? |
| 20:16.12 | Fenix_ | hello anyone? |
| 20:17.02 | Triceron | hi |
| 20:17.39 | Fenix_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:18.02 | Triceron | *shrugs* |
| 20:18.03 | Monkalizer | Fenix_: sorry, dont know much about the data editor, but its probably in the actor events |
| 20:18.21 | Fenix_ | umk |
| 20:18.38 | Monkalizer | its the actor that decides the events |
| 20:18.56 | Monkalizer | some trigger that says "under production event" or "unit birth" or something |
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| 20:27.58 | TwoDie | how does Arithmetic Multiple (Integer/real) works? :/ |
| 20:28.16 | Dustin|Work | Not very well |
| 20:28.51 | TwoDie | it take every value and does one action like multiply, substract etc? |
| 20:29.33 | Dustin|Work | As far as I know, you supply an operator and then values that the operator applies to |
| 20:30.05 | Dustin|Work | You'd be better off using custom code if you have any sort of advanced expressions to run |
| 20:34.08 | Fenix_ | hey Dustin, do you know what starts the warping in sound? |
| 20:34.14 | Fenix_ | for buildings |
| 20:34.40 | Dustin|Work | Probably a birth sound actor |
| 20:35.00 | Dustin|Work | Have you checked the actor events on like a warpgate |
| 20:35.14 | Dustin|Work | Or better yet |
| 20:35.47 | Dustin|Work | Get into the sound actors tab and search for warpin and then check the events and see if it's attached to any buildings |
| 20:38.35 | Dustin|Work | Protoss_BuildingWarpStart |
| 20:38.57 | Dustin|Work | is the sound file |
| 20:39.02 | Triceron | hey so do you guys know what the current mod/map size limit is? |
| 20:39.10 | Fenix_ | sound file ya but what uses that sound |
| 20:39.29 | Fenix_ | Triceron, I'd say over 20Mo |
| 20:39.32 | Fenix_ | not quite sure |
| 20:39.39 | Triceron | I remember they boosted it, but forgot how much |
| 20:39.43 | Triceron | no, it's well over 20mb now |
| 20:40.00 | Fenix_ | you probably know it if you try publishing? |
| 20:40.13 | Triceron | like up to 50 or 100 or something crazy, but I forgot the exact number |
| 20:40.20 | Fenix_ | lol |
| 20:41.00 | Triceron | they ninja changed this, so there's no patch log I can go check out |
| 20:42.16 | Monkalizer | Fenix_ is a lol |
| 20:42.27 | Monkalizer | ~Fenix |
| 20:42.27 | purl | fenix is, like, into furry porn |
| 20:42.54 | Monkalizer | ?? |
| 20:42.57 | Triceron | eww |
| 20:43.10 | Dustin|Work | ok ok |
| 20:43.14 | Dustin|Work | Fenix_, |
| 20:43.29 | Fenix_ | nvm i think i founded trying something |
| 20:43.30 | Dustin|Work | Under the building actor, there's a set of sounds associated with that actor |
| 20:52.58 | Fenix_ | got it. Had to add an Event for the custom build ability so when it starts, create the sound. |
| 20:53.07 | Fenix_ | in the actor for the sound |
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| 21:03.31 | Ahli | is there a file size limitation? when publishing it uses the same number as max space (157mb)... |
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| 21:06.36 | Triceron | steam sales! |
| 21:06.55 | Triceron | oh so max space is 157 mb? |
| 21:07.07 | Triceron | so you can literally put up a mod that's like.. 157mb? |
| 21:07.58 | TwoDie | ~guess |
| 21:07.58 | purl | methinks guess is a hypothesis based on nothing |
| 21:08.05 | Ahli | seems like that... in case we are able to upload it fast enough... I don't think they removed the uploading duration entirely... |
| 21:08.40 | TwoDie | well that size for me it would took to 2 mins |
| 21:15.00 | Ahli | my Maps folder has 3 gig already :S |
| 21:16.52 | TwoDie | well thats a lot. my projects takes 188mb, 333mb backups |
| 21:18.09 | Ahli | well, 1.69gig consists out of my diablo map file and its backups/previous versions |
| 21:22.01 | Zolden | my map folder has 7.5 gb |
| 21:22.41 | Zolden | it consist of the maps and a 7.3 gb movie I accidently copied there |
| 21:23.04 | TwoDie | lol |
| 21:24.23 | Exaken | Custom footprints are still broken? |
| 21:26.17 | TwoDie | in what way? not displaying in map editor? i guess |
| 21:26.25 | Exaken | Not working at all |
| 21:26.30 | A1win | they've always worked in-game |
| 21:26.34 | A1win | just not in the editor |
| 21:27.09 | A1win | there was a bug that reverted their settings to default but that was fixed at some point |
| 21:28.08 | TwoDie | and display on screen the previous changes done to it |
| 21:28.43 | TwoDie | or its more like reset |
| 21:31.08 | Ahli | you need to look at footprints in the xml view |
| 21:31.35 | Ahli | looks like ascii art |
| 21:34.06 | TwoDie | finally map generation taking some more normal and better shape |
| 21:34.21 | Zolden | TwoDie: what method do you use? |
| 21:34.28 | Zolden | give us some screens pls |
| 21:35.01 | Zolden | it's better to see once than to hear 100 times, as we say in russia |
| 21:36.35 | TwoDie | Well the method is still not latest version having but half way in possitive direction. |
| 21:36.50 | TwoDie | now making map generation minimaps showcase |
| 21:42.46 | TwoDie | here you go http://imageshack.us/f/39/mapgeneration.png/ |
| 21:43.03 | TwoDie | in top max generation bottom lowest count |
| 21:43.38 | TwoDie | still shitty stuff with starting places of players so for now it goes in circle. |
| 21:43.54 | TwoDie | and map width height ratio 1:1 |
| 21:44.45 | Zolden | minimap is shitted with minimap squares |
| 21:45.05 | Zolden | terrain shouldn't create be seen on minimap as units |
| 21:45.20 | TwoDie | its not possible to do other way |
| 21:45.22 | Zolden | (said the one who used minimap icons for mountains in his map) |
| 21:45.51 | TwoDie | if you add images the limit is 128 icons on the minimap TT |
| 21:46.02 | Zolden | oh ,BTW!!! |
| 21:46.07 | Zolden | you have mountains, right? |
| 21:46.21 | TwoDie | have cliffs |
| 21:46.27 | Zolden | and they has been creating by the terrain modifiers, right? |
| 21:46.37 | TwoDie | nope |
| 21:46.40 | Zolden | ;/ |
| 21:46.42 | Zolden | ok |
| 21:46.42 | TwoDie | they like buildings |
| 21:46.51 | TwoDie | custom rock model |
| 21:46.55 | Zolden | do you modify anything by terrain modifier actors? |
| 21:47.14 | Zolden | well, just set minimap radius to 0 |
| 21:47.21 | Zolden | shitted minimap look ugly |
| 21:47.36 | TwoDie | still havent a chance to do anything with terrain modifiers |
| 21:47.45 | TwoDie | planing on making rivers lakes |
| 21:48.01 | TwoDie | with custom models actors involved in process |
| 21:48.18 | TwoDie | looks ugly but if deleted you just lost on the map |
| 21:49.14 | TwoDie | you getting blind feeling and these ugly shitty squares let you get feeling of where hills or some wood you can find |
| 21:50.31 | TwoDie | plus need to make new terrain texture. |
| 21:50.33 | Zolden | alright, kepp up a good work |
| 21:50.44 | Zolden | random generating is always tricky and funny |
| 21:51.03 | Zolden | Ahli and A1win have their examples too |
| 21:51.07 | TwoDie | thinking of adding ground splats for more variations |
| 21:51.13 | Zolden | and goa for sure |
| 21:51.30 | Zolden | yeah, splats would look cool i think |
| 21:51.35 | TwoDie | Zolden doesnt sleep at that too |
| 21:52.34 | Zolden | also that guy with populous remake |
| 21:52.42 | Zolden | someine wit iIiiIiiII like name |
| 21:52.42 | TwoDie | so long journey a waits still |
| 21:54.38 | TwoDie | or that guy with diablo remake |
| 21:55.11 | Triceron | aren't there multiple diablo remakes? |
| 21:55.48 | Zolden | Ahli is that guy with diablo remake |
| 21:55.53 | Zolden | but there were more, yea |
| 21:56.00 | Zolden | dunno if they all use random terrain |
| 21:56.47 | Ahli | mine is the bestest |
| 21:57.27 | TwoDie | <.< anyway goodnight |
| 22:17.15 | Dustin|Work | join #fightbot |
| 22:17.26 | Dustin|Work | and make a new char to play my idle rpg |
| 22:17.33 | Dustin|Work | @fight create once in the channel |
| 22:17.40 | Dustin|Work | :D |
| 22:17.51 | A1win | I used to make fight bots in 2004 or so, using mirc script |
| 22:19.41 | Dustin|Work | Hehe my friend made a cool ruby bot framework |
| 22:19.51 | Dustin|Work | So I've been working on my Ruby skillz making plugins for it |
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| 22:30.43 | Bounty | Can anyone tell me why when you export a map image, if your map has water in it, it glitches out? |
| 22:30.56 | Bounty | like it shows water over the ground even though in game it is beneath it... |
| 22:31.43 | Monkalizer | I have never had such problems. There is a checkbox for show water boundaries |
| 22:32.25 | Bounty | where? |
| 22:33.21 | Monkalizer | hm let me open the editor |
| 22:33.57 | Ahli | bounty, I've the same problem |
| 22:34.02 | Monkalizer | under view options, if you set it to custom you can change it |
| 22:34.03 | Ahli | I think lowering the water fixes it |
| 22:34.33 | Ahli | if it is just barely below the cliff height it draws it above it in the exporter image |
| 22:34.39 | Monkalizer | perhaps |
| 22:34.47 | Monkalizer | ah ok |
| 22:34.55 | Bounty | um |
| 22:35.01 | Bounty | i dont see this mystery options ur talking about monka |
| 22:35.08 | Bounty | u can only show or completely hide water |
| 22:35.12 | Bounty | unless im missing an option |
| 22:35.13 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:37.22 | Bounty | Is there any other way around this horseshit Ahli? |
| 22:37.23 | Monkalizer | hm... no! thats it. I toggled the view options of water bounds on in the view menu, and then set the rendering to render a map image as it appears in the editor :) |
| 22:37.27 | Bounty | Because that is not an option for me |
| 22:37.39 | Ahli | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383465 qxc with second episode about sc2's design |
| 22:37.52 | Ahli | only change it for the picture |
| 22:38.05 | Bounty | what do you mean |
| 22:38.24 | Ahli | uhm... where is the picture displayed? |
| 22:38.29 | Bounty | in the minimap |
| 22:38.29 | Ahli | do you want to use it as minimap? |
| 22:38.31 | Bounty | and i cant change it |
| 22:38.36 | Bounty | i lowered it as much as i could |
| 22:38.44 | Bounty | only way to fix it is to lower the water so its 100% invisible |
| 22:38.51 | Ahli | water is actually independently drawn from the minimap picture |
| 22:38.53 | Bounty | yes its being used as minimap |
| 22:39.02 | Ahli | so try to make it invisible in the background picture |
| 22:39.07 | Zolden | god, finally |
| 22:39.10 | Zolden | finished models |
| 22:39.14 | Ahli | the game adds the water depending on its height itself |
| 22:39.16 | Zolden | now pure mapping for me |
| 22:39.17 | Zolden | yeah |
| 22:39.44 | Bounty | i need the water to show in the minimap Ahli... |
| 22:39.47 | Ahli | why didn't I think about that when I experimented with these image things a few months ago? -.- |
| 22:40.01 | Ahli | sc2 draws water automatically on the minimap, bounty |
| 22:40.09 | Ahli | was added in 1.5 I think. |
| 22:40.19 | Ahli | it can now reflect water state changes |
| 22:40.20 | Bounty | uh |
| 22:40.30 | Ahli | which are visible on the minimap |
| 22:40.42 | Ahli | so, try it without the water in the picture |
| 22:40.48 | Monkalizer | Bounty: remove the water and render the image. Then paint it back in paint!!! |
| 22:41.10 | Ahli | you don't need to alter it |
| 22:44.51 | Bounty | without the water it just shows... no water Ahli |
| 22:44.52 | Bounty | i cant use that lol |
| 22:45.57 | Ahli | uhm, can you alter the camera boundaries in map init? |
| 22:46.00 | Ahli | that updates it |
| 22:46.07 | Ahli | I use that in my diablo map |
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| 22:46.45 | Bounty | yeah but its using the image as the minimap ahli |
| 22:46.47 | Bounty | it doesnt update |
| 22:46.57 | Bounty | it cant draw over the image lol |
| 22:47.09 | Ahli | why shouldn't it be able to draw above the image? |
| 22:47.33 | Bounty | hell if i know but its not |
| 22:47.34 | Ahli | you only replace the minimap image... you don't add strange stuff to the engine |
| 22:47.44 | Ahli | you need to update it manually I guess |
| 22:47.49 | Bounty | how |
| 22:48.04 | Ahli | tried to set camera boundaries with a trigger at map init or shortly after? |
| 22:48.35 | Bounty | thats what ive been doing |
| 22:48.38 | Bounty | im telling u lol |
| 22:48.39 | Ahli | hmm |
| 22:48.49 | Bounty | it looks absolutely fucking horrible |
| 22:49.40 | Bounty | this could very well be the stupidest thing ive ever encountered in the editor |
| 22:49.41 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:49.48 | Bounty | it was fine until i made the map bigger to add 2 more maps |
| 22:50.16 | Dustin|Work | Poor Bounty :( |
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| 22:50.25 | Bounty | yeah |
| 22:50.27 | Bounty | this is bullshit |
| 22:50.29 | Bounty | the map is done |
| 22:50.33 | Bounty | but i cant add this |
| 22:50.35 | Taintediwsp | Hey any good data editors there? |
| 22:50.39 | Bounty | the minimap is the ugliest thing ive ever seen |
| 22:50.45 | Taintediwsp | How would I remove that Orange glow from kerrigan? |
| 22:50.46 | Dustin|Work | NO tainted, gtfo |
| 22:50.49 | Ahli | did you try map -> info -> minimap resolution -> ultra? |
| 22:51.28 | Bounty | yeah, honestly that didnt do a damn thing lol |
| 22:51.54 | Bounty | you would think it would make a visual diff |
| 22:51.55 | Bounty | but it doesnt |
| 22:52.51 | Taintediwsp | lol |
| 22:53.03 | Taintediwsp | HOW DO I REMOVE THAT STUPID PARTICLE EFFECT FROM KERRIGAN!!! |
| 22:53.04 | Taintediwsp | lol |
| 22:53.18 | Taintediwsp | When there are over 500 kerrigans it will deff lag l |
| 22:53.19 | Taintediwsp | :P |
| 22:53.33 | Dustin|Work | Thats probably a model thing |
| 22:53.36 | Bounty | dafsDSFSDLFKds |
| 22:53.41 | Bounty | THIS IS FUCKING SUCH HORSESHIT |
| 22:53.42 | Bounty | of course |
| 22:53.46 | Bounty | i am done the third map |
| 22:53.50 | Bounty | now i cant fucking upload it |
| 22:53.55 | Bounty | becaues of this horseshit |
| 22:54.06 | Bounty | who the fuck made it so the higher the camera is the more the water fucks up |
| 22:54.20 | Taintediwsp | :P |
| 22:54.21 | Taintediwsp | hahha |
| 22:54.25 | Taintediwsp | some dip shit |
| 22:54.36 | Taintediwsp | wheres browder |
| 22:54.39 | Taintediwsp | \"{ |
| 22:54.54 | Dustin|Work | tainted |
| 22:54.57 | Dustin|Work | #fightbot |
| 22:55.03 | Dustin|Work | Its an idle rpg now |
| 22:55.22 | Taintediwsp | im good |
| 22:55.23 | Taintediwsp | lol |
| 22:55.26 | Dustin|Work | :P |
| 22:55.35 | Bounty | FUCK |
| 22:55.36 | Bounty | MY |
| 22:55.40 | Bounty | LIFE |
| 22:55.45 | Bounty | Where is Blizz when u need em |
| 22:55.47 | Bounty | never in here |
| 22:55.51 | Zolden | Taintediwsp: someone mentioned today, that we need a you unit |
| 22:56.02 | Zolden | Taintediwsp unit |
| 22:56.02 | Dustin|Work | lol that's not how it works anymore :P |
| 22:57.11 | Taintediwsp | lol |
| 22:57.28 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:57.35 | Bounty | so apparently Ahli |
| 22:57.37 | Taintediwsp | HOW DO I REMOVE THESE STUPID ASS PARTICLES!! |
| 22:57.38 | Bounty | this is unfixable |
| 22:57.42 | Bounty | has nothing to do with heights |
| 22:57.45 | Taintediwsp | SOO FUCKING GAY AND IN MY DAMN WAY LAGGY PEICE OF SHIT |
| 22:58.17 | Dustin|Work | Get Zolden or Triceron to remove the model particle effect probably |
| 22:58.22 | Ahli | interesting... |
| 22:58.37 | Bounty | the only thing i can think of is erase the bottom half of the map |
| 22:58.40 | Zolden | yea, i can remove particles |
| 22:58.41 | Bounty | take the top halfs picture |
| 22:58.44 | Bounty | do the same for the bottom |
| 22:58.47 | Bounty | and piece them together |
| 22:58.48 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:58.57 | Taintediwsp | is there a way to do it without the model itself... |
| 22:59.07 | Dustin|Work | Probably not |
| 22:59.09 | Taintediwsp | Cannt i just upload a new file that is just black? |
| 22:59.13 | Zolden | you have a model that spam particles? |
| 22:59.14 | Taintediwsp | and replace it |
| 22:59.16 | Dustin|Work | most particles are model specific |
| 22:59.19 | Triceron | unfortunately not |
| 22:59.22 | Triceron | particles are tied to models |
| 22:59.26 | Triceron | not data |
| 22:59.26 | Zolden | you can only switch its texture to an invisible one i guess |
| 23:00.14 | Triceron | sometimes removing particles is tricky. It's usually as easy as removing an emitter, but some models get messed up when you do a simple import/export through the .m3 tools |
| 23:00.31 | Triceron | if the particles have glow or anything, it messes up with a texture swap |
| 23:00.45 | Triceron | or like, you see the plane still |
| 23:00.46 | Taintediwsp | http://i.imgur.com/ZJOro.jpg |
| 23:00.48 | Taintediwsp | See the particles... |
| 23:00.50 | Taintediwsp | I want those GONE |
| 23:01.09 | Triceron | the gassy cloud around her? |
| 23:01.16 | Taintediwsp | when theres 500 kerrigans at once, it will lag :P |
| 23:01.20 | Taintediwsp | yeah |
| 23:01.39 | Triceron | I wish there was a data toggle |
| 23:01.45 | Triceron | would make things a lot easier |
| 23:01.50 | Taintediwsp | i wonder... |
| 23:01.51 | Taintediwsp | one sec |
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| 23:03.01 | Triceron | but yeah, I tried removing an emitter from a projectile model, and it ended up removing the animation completely from import/exporting through the tools |
| 23:03.03 | Taintediwsp | Is it in the emissive file? |
| 23:03.07 | Triceron | no |
| 23:03.09 | Taintediwsp | What file would it be? |
| 23:03.16 | Triceron | emissive would be the glows |
| 23:03.17 | Taintediwsp | or is it in the model itself |
| 23:03.19 | Triceron | like her eyes |
| 23:03.37 | Triceron | the model itself has a particle emitter. The particles do use a texture though |
| 23:03.54 | Triceron | but how you swap that, I have no clue. |
| 23:03.55 | Taintediwsp | But i am guessing it wouldnt help if I made it transparent lag wise |
| 23:04.02 | Taintediwsp | Well i can swap anything :P |
| 23:04.05 | Triceron | and what you swap it too, you'd have to find a blank texture |
| 23:04.13 | Taintediwsp | just name it the same, and Place it back in the original folder |
| 23:04.28 | Taintediwsp | Yeah but I cant find the texture it uses |
| 23:04.35 | Triceron | yeah, that's the tricky part |
| 23:04.54 | Triceron | lemme check to see |
| 23:05.00 | Triceron | what's the name of kerrigan? |
| 23:05.07 | Triceron | just kerrigan.m3? |
| 23:05.23 | Taintediwsp | I think so |
| 23:05.27 | Taintediwsp | Might be Queenofblades |
| 23:05.41 | Taintediwsp | I have been re-texturing :D |
| 23:05.42 | Taintediwsp | :P |
| 23:05.44 | Taintediwsp | haha |
| 23:07.34 | Triceron | she's got a bunch of emitters |
| 23:07.35 | Triceron | hrm |
| 23:08.23 | Triceron | the shader is called stanadard_7222 |
| 23:08.45 | Triceron | it uses glow_low1.dds |
| 23:09.07 | Triceron | and glow_orange3.dds (emissive) |
| 23:09.48 | Taintediwsp | hmmm |
| 23:09.49 | Taintediwsp | ok |
| 23:10.54 | Triceron | I can toss you a kerrigan with no emitters on it |
| 23:11.07 | Triceron | but it'ss up to you whether to use it or not. It could be broken. |
| 23:11.35 | Taintediwsp | yeah kerrigan is a unit that there will be a lot of sooo |
| 23:11.43 | Taintediwsp | Lemme try it my way first |
| 23:12.14 | Taintediwsp | I am glad I dont have to texture select by ID, for units I only use once |
| 23:12.15 | Taintediwsp | haha |
| 23:13.02 | Taintediwsp | Damn Same thing.... |
| 23:13.11 | Taintediwsp | Yeah if you can do it to where it wont lag |
| 23:13.18 | Taintediwsp | would be a great help |
| 23:13.31 | Taintediwsp | but I will need its animations to work too |
| 23:13.34 | Triceron | hrm, she won't export |
| 23:13.43 | Triceron | no luck here either |
| 23:14.38 | Taintediwsp | WOW, i wish blizzard would give us controls over those settings it shows in model data |
| 23:14.44 | Taintediwsp | so I could override the particle emitters |
| 23:15.03 | Taintediwsp | plus Texture select would be MUCH easier |
| 23:15.46 | Taintediwsp | WAIT |
| 23:15.54 | Taintediwsp | HEY Bounty you there? |
| 23:16.57 | Taintediwsp | nvm |
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| 23:20.53 | Bounty | yeah? |
| 23:21.42 | Taintediwsp | Could you create a trigger that Removes the particle effect from a unit? |
| 23:21.54 | Taintediwsp | Perhaps something with send actor message |
| 23:22.20 | Taintediwsp | Wait |
| 23:22.33 | Taintediwsp | Hey bounty, Do you know if the destroy particles thing lags? |
| 23:22.50 | Taintediwsp | If not then I will just destroy the particles faster then kerrigan can create them haha |
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| 23:25.59 | Taintediwsp | hey thunderlord |
| 23:26.04 | ThunderLord | sup |
| 23:26.13 | Taintediwsp | Do you know a way through triggers to disable Particles on a unit? |
| 23:26.26 | ThunderLord | ... |
| 23:26.28 | Taintediwsp | i can destroy the |
| 23:26.29 | ThunderLord | ummmm |
| 23:26.47 | ThunderLord | i do not....know what particals are... |
| 23:27.02 | Taintediwsp | http://i.imgur.com/ZJOro.jpg |
| 23:27.06 | Taintediwsp | Orange glowy thing |
| 23:27.19 | ThunderLord | Got it |
| 23:27.29 | ThunderLord | i assume u can send an actor message in data? |
| 23:27.43 | ThunderLord | cuz u can send actor messages in triggers in almost the exact same way |
| 23:28.09 | Taintediwsp | well I can set up actor events, But I can only Destroy particles, not disable |
| 23:28.19 | ThunderLord | OIC |
| 23:28.22 | ThunderLord | well then |
| 23:28.25 | ThunderLord | if that is the only way |
| 23:28.32 | ThunderLord | then u willprolly have to do somthing like |
| 23:28.38 | ThunderLord | destroying and recreating the entire actor |
| 23:28.51 | Taintediwsp | lol |
| 23:29.01 | Taintediwsp | The problem is, I have 500 kerrigans on the map at one time |
| 23:29.01 | Taintediwsp | haha |
| 23:29.05 | ThunderLord | well seriously like, hide the actor and swap it with another |
| 23:29.06 | Taintediwsp | sooo those particles WILL lag |
| 23:29.07 | Taintediwsp | :P |
| 23:29.16 | ThunderLord | well, then destroy all the particals |
| 23:29.25 | ThunderLord | why do you want it sometimes and not others? |
| 23:29.27 | Taintediwsp | but they will keep re-creating |
| 23:29.28 | Taintediwsp | :P |
| 23:29.37 | Taintediwsp | i want the particles gone for good for that unit |
| 23:29.38 | ThunderLord | OHHHHHH |
| 23:29.39 | ThunderLord | i see now |
| 23:29.48 | Taintediwsp | I know 99% chance it will lag |
| 23:29.49 | ThunderLord | it destroys the particals that are currently out |
| 23:30.41 | ThunderLord | thats a tough one |
| 23:30.54 | ThunderLord | i have no idea how to do custom modeling |
| 23:31.04 | ThunderLord | but that is prolly ur only way |
| 23:31.05 | Taintediwsp | Kerrigan, Zeratul and the Odin are my last teir :P |
| 23:31.19 | ThunderLord | i know there is a "No Glow Tassadar" custom model out there |
| 23:31.29 | ThunderLord | maybe there is a simple kerrigan too? |
| 23:31.41 | Taintediwsp | < I use team color Glow Tassadar :P |
| 23:31.56 | Taintediwsp | but tassadar is just a 1 per player max unit |
| 23:32.06 | Taintediwsp | Kerrigan anyone can have up to 225 of |
| 23:32.07 | Taintediwsp | hah |
| 23:32.14 | ThunderLord | yeah but if there is a no glow tassadar |
| 23:32.22 | ThunderLord | it stands to reason that there is a no partical kerrigan |
| 23:32.28 | ThunderLord | or it is atleast possible to make |
| 23:33.26 | Taintediwsp | yeah |
| 23:33.34 | ThunderLord | now i have a question for you |
| 23:33.42 | ThunderLord | if i have a unit that i imported a custom model for |
| 23:33.53 | ThunderLord | and it's selection box is too small |
| 23:33.56 | ThunderLord | how can i change that |
| 23:34.03 | Bounty | I think i fixed it ahli |
| 23:34.08 | Bounty | well not fixed it but found a way around it lol |
| 23:34.17 | ThunderLord | cuz there are like 3 models that u have to click on like the exact center of models to select them |
| 23:34.38 | Ahli | and what are you doing? |
| 23:34.57 | Bounty | i export 4 seperate map images |
| 23:34.59 | Bounty | and pieces them together |
| 23:36.52 | Bounty | annd of course now it breaks my map |
| 23:36.54 | Bounty | believe that |
| 23:36.59 | Bounty | changing the minimap images |
| 23:37.02 | Bounty | just broke my entire game |
| 23:37.05 | Bounty | figure that shit the fuck out |
| 23:40.36 | Taintediwsp | Its I dont know thunderlord but I had just heard that same question a few weeks ago |
| 23:41.05 | Taintediwsp | I have been drastically reducing lag the past couple weeks :P |
| 23:41.07 | ThunderLord | okay so maybe someone has figured it out... |
| 23:41.14 | ThunderLord | cool |
| 23:41.19 | Taintediwsp | Hey bounty usually your maps are lag free, any advice? |
| 23:41.23 | ThunderLord | i have been drastically increasing lag LOL |
| 23:41.57 | Bounty | honestly dude |
| 23:41.59 | Taintediwsp | I team colored kerrigan haha |
| 23:42.00 | Bounty | i have no advice |
| 23:42.02 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:42.05 | Taintediwsp | :P |
| 23:42.09 | Bounty | i dont know what im doing half the time |
| 23:42.21 | ThunderLord | just use data |
| 23:42.27 | ThunderLord | its pretty hard to make a game lag with data |
| 23:42.47 | Taintediwsp | < Makes game lag with data :P |
| 23:43.16 | ThunderLord | Well, 255 kerrigans with partical effects is.... |
| 23:43.21 | ThunderLord | overkill |
| 23:43.28 | ThunderLord | lulz |
| 23:43.28 | Taintediwsp | haha |
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| 23:43.34 | Taintediwsp | I wanna remove the particle effects |
| 23:43.35 | Taintediwsp | :P |
| 23:43.38 | ThunderLord | lol |
| 23:43.44 | ThunderLord | fair enough |
| 23:43.56 | ThunderLord | i use like only triggers... |
| 23:44.00 | ThunderLord | its a bad habbit of mine |
| 23:44.20 | ThunderLord | i have tons of cool abilities |
| 23:44.24 | ThunderLord | but they all look like crap |
| 23:44.29 | ThunderLord | because i am scared of actors |
| 23:46.36 | Triceron | like Tom Cruise |
| 23:46.45 | ThunderLord | LOLOL |
| 23:47.01 | Bommes | what do you mean, the part about looking like crap or being scared of actors? |
| 23:47.25 | ThunderLord | HAHAHA |
| 23:47.41 | ThunderLord | amazing... |
| 23:49.04 | Ahli | hmmm, the tooltips aren't working at all... what needs the behavior's remove validator return to cause the removal of the behavior? |
| 23:59.40 | Taintediwsp | Smudge tool lags haha |
