| 00:00.05 | EnexyNunu | You only really see programs coded for multi-cores in supercomputer useage. |
| 00:00.13 | A1win | yeah if you need one program to make use of multithreading, you need to do special kind of programming |
| 00:00.35 | A1win | but if you have two traditional programs, they can run in separate cores parallel to each other |
| 00:00.48 | EnexyNunu | NVidia's CUDA is a good start to learn parallel programming, I have an e-book on it, but I never read past the intro chapter. |
| 00:00.56 | EnexyNunu | Which is where I'm spouting my info from (or trying to recall it) |
| 00:01.41 | EnexyNunu | yeah |
| 00:02.23 | DeadZergling | hrrrrmm, threading sure sounds like an easy way to crash your project |
| 00:02.24 | EnexyNunu | looking up the book name for anyone interested ;x |
| 00:02.46 | A1win | DeadZergling, only if you have no clue what it is ;p |
| 00:03.12 | DeadZergling | just makes me a little fearful to use it, as I could now make it crash faster than ever before |
| 00:03.14 | EnexyNunu | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:03.25 | EnexyNunu | and I also have an e-book on Optimizing Applications for Multi-Core Processors: Using the Intel Integrated Performance Primitives, Second Edition |
| 00:03.33 | EnexyNunu | If you have a 24x7 books account, it's all there |
| 00:04.05 | DeadZergling | I just don't get it |
| 00:04.07 | EnexyNunu | I don't know a thing about multi-core programming |
| 00:04.14 | EnexyNunu | But I have books on it XD |
| 00:04.18 | DeadZergling | where would I need to use threading? |
| 00:04.24 | EnexyNunu | Super computing |
| 00:04.33 | Dustin | Depends |
| 00:04.40 | EnexyNunu | medical applications |
| 00:04.41 | Dustin | On if you hit the thread count limmiter |
| 00:05.03 | A1win | you're mixing actual multithreading and galaxy threads now D: |
| 00:05.11 | Dustin | You can max out a thread by running to many things in it |
| 00:05.13 | EnexyNunu | Most employers won't ask you to know this stuff, I wouldn't worry ;x |
| 00:05.24 | Dustin | Oh were we not talking about threading with sc2 engine? |
| 00:05.35 | A1win | we were |
| 00:05.41 | A1win | I was just comparing it to actual threads |
| 00:05.44 | A1win | earlier |
| 00:05.54 | Dustin | ahh |
| 00:06.25 | DeadZergling | well, threading in the editor or in general I would like to understand better |
| 00:07.02 | A1win | it's just a way to manage certain kinds of tasks more easily than having to do everything line-by-line |
| 00:07.13 | EnexyNunu | Well, just putting this out there before I go afk... I got a 24x7 books account if anyone actually READS books and wants to learn more about programming. Just PM me here, I'm afk now though. I'll get back to you tho |
| 00:07.33 | A1win | DeadZergling, there aren't that many occasions where you'd even need to create threads |
| 00:07.39 | DeadZergling | Undecided Enexy, I'm a terrible reader of books, lol |
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| 00:07.46 | A1win | and the occasions when you do are usually so simple that the threading won't cause any problems |
| 00:07.55 | EnexyNunu | Me too, I fall asleep reading them DZ. |
| 00:08.11 | DeadZergling | too much gaming I think |
| 00:08.16 | DeadZergling | I need everything line by line |
| 00:08.19 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 00:08.20 | Dustin | I had a problem with thread limitsi n WC3 |
| 00:08.21 | A1win | :P |
| 00:08.34 | Dustin | But that was cause I was running a grid creation alg for each player |
| 00:08.44 | EnexyNunu | Think I'ma play LoL instead actually |
| 00:08.58 | Dustin | and it was hitting the cap, so I had to seperate out the functions to create new threads off the main thread |
| 00:09.47 | A1win | yeah the thread limit in SC2 is so high that shouldn't be a problem except in some very extreme cases |
| 00:09.50 | DeadZergling | hrrrrmmm |
| 00:10.02 | Dustin | Yeah, not even worth worrying about |
| 00:10.14 | EnexyNunu | Thread limit in SC2 is 255, I believe |
| 00:10.17 | EnexyNunu | It's not THAT much |
| 00:10.18 | DeadZergling | So I'm trying to think of 'good' uses for threads, in particular for my project |
| 00:10.28 | EnexyNunu | I worry about it myself for my RPG |
| 00:10.37 | A1win | DeadZergling, start by thinking that whenever a trigger event is fired, the instance of the trigger that starts running is one thread |
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| 00:10.45 | Dustin | There wouldnt be any 'good' use |
| 00:10.46 | DeadZergling | thinking bank loads/bank saves might be a good one |
| 00:10.48 | A1win | and every other trigger that is running at the same time is a separate thread |
| 00:11.01 | A1win | DeadZergling, hmm why? |
| 00:11.11 | Dustin | If you noticed something was lagging because you had a thread that was taking to long to process, you could split that thread out |
| 00:11.12 | DeadZergling | They have caused me issues in the past |
| 00:11.23 | DeadZergling | my loads for example |
| 00:11.27 | A1win | threading won't solve performance issues |
| 00:11.29 | DeadZergling | I had to split those up |
| 00:11.30 | A1win | only waits do |
| 00:11.42 | A1win | you just need threads so that you can make the waits not interrupt anything else but that thread |
| 00:11.57 | DeadZergling | Right, so let me explain my backwards horrible load to you |
| 00:12.06 | DeadZergling | before we say more |
| 00:12.08 | A1win | hehe |
| 00:12.13 | DeadZergling | so I split my loads up into 4 or 5 parts |
| 00:12.27 | DeadZergling | due to me knowing nothing about threads, and being dreadfully afraid of waits |
| 00:12.34 | DeadZergling | due to my previous experience with them in BW |
| 00:12.43 | DeadZergling | When a load happens |
| 00:12.51 | DeadZergling | it creates the hero, applies a hide it buff |
| 00:12.59 | DeadZergling | that after 1 second applies a duplicate buff |
| 00:13.07 | DeadZergling | and so on until buff #5 or 6 |
| 00:13.08 | Dustin | Waits in BW or WC3 are not the same as in sc2 |
| 00:13.10 | DeadZergling | which wears off |
| 00:13.24 | DeadZergling | the apply buff effects were watched for in triggers |
| 00:13.35 | DeadZergling | and then split the bank loads up |
| 00:13.48 | A1win | the most important thing you need to know about waits and threads is that a wait only halts the thread it is in |
| 00:13.49 | DeadZergling | I'm guessing I could get around all that |
| 00:14.03 | DeadZergling | By just using an action definition with wait 0.2 seconds between each chunk, right? |
| 00:14.25 | DeadZergling | now I'm to the I want answer portion of what I'm saying |
| 00:14.34 | DeadZergling | just wanted to explain my horrible system right now, lol |
| 00:14.43 | A1win | I didn't really understand that :D |
| 00:14.55 | DeadZergling | okay, you know triggers can watch for effects, right? |
| 00:15.03 | A1win | yeah |
| 00:15.10 | DeadZergling | I used 5-6 behaviors |
| 00:15.18 | DeadZergling | that lasted 1 second each |
| 00:15.25 | DeadZergling | w/ expire effects of apply the next behavior |
| 00:15.28 | Dustin | You used behavior times as waits? |
| 00:15.29 | Taintedwisp | DZ is Hitlers lil bro... dont listen to him!!! |
| 00:15.31 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 00:15.35 | DeadZergling | yes... |
| 00:15.38 | A1win | :E |
| 00:15.39 | Dustin | Lol why |
| 00:15.39 | DeadZergling | I told you it was horrible |
| 00:15.42 | A1win | haha |
| 00:15.50 | DeadZergling | because I was afraid of wait commands |
| 00:15.58 | A1win | nothing to worry about them |
| 00:16.00 | Dustin | hehe |
| 00:16.00 | DeadZergling | every time I used them in BW maps it fucked my map over |
| 00:16.10 | Dustin | Yeah, waits are your friend in SC2, Enemy in WC3 |
| 00:16.21 | A1win | waits can only pause the execution of one thread in the script engine, they have absolutely no effect on anything else |
| 00:16.35 | DeadZergling | yes, I'm beginning to understand that |
| 00:16.48 | DeadZergling | so am I correct in what I said earlier? |
| 00:16.54 | Dustin | They did some stupid bs in WC3, which messed up alot of stuff, so they were not good to use |
| 00:16.59 | Bounty | Dustin |
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| 00:17.02 | Bounty | i have EVERYTHINg in one trigger |
| 00:17.05 | DeadZergling | Instead of behavior craziness, just use 0.2 waits |
| 00:17.06 | A1win | a wait basically means "don't do anything in this thread" and that time can then be used for other threads of the script engine |
| 00:17.11 | Bounty | worker harvesting + healing + all combat damage |
| 00:17.15 | Bounty | is handled by 1 trigger |
| 00:17.16 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:17.18 | Dustin | nice lol |
| 00:17.26 | A1win | why do you need waits at all DeadZergling? |
| 00:17.30 | A1win | or timers |
| 00:18.01 | Zolden | now this look like a mapping chat, good job |
| 00:18.14 | A1win | hehe |
| 00:18.15 | DeadZergling | because my load takes too long |
| 00:18.18 | DeadZergling | and doesn't complete |
| 00:18.19 | DeadZergling | otherwise |
| 00:18.20 | A1win | ah |
| 00:18.23 | Dustin | That's mnot going to help with your load |
| 00:18.24 | A1win | then just use 0.0625 sec waits |
| 00:18.27 | A1win | no reason to use any longer |
| 00:18.50 | Bounty | Dustin |
| 00:18.55 | Bounty | i dont see how this is going to make things better |
| 00:19.01 | Bounty | this this trigger is huge |
| 00:19.01 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:19.10 | Dustin | Use switch/casE? |
| 00:19.14 | Zolden | so, we can't have waits shorter then 0,0625? |
| 00:19.20 | Dustin | Right Zolden |
| 00:19.25 | Bounty | i used switches whenever i could |
| 00:19.25 | A1win | but don't use wait 0 because then it tries to do 2 things during one frame, meaning that every second wait 0 in fact does nothing to help with it taking too long |
| 00:19.31 | Zolden | ok ;/ |
| 00:19.32 | Bounty | i couldnt use them for the behavior detection though |
| 00:19.36 | Dustin | that's the period the game frames update at |
| 00:20.14 | Zolden | it's 1/16 sec |
| 00:20.25 | Zolden | said CO |
| 00:20.51 | A1win | you can have a wait of 0 which is 1/32 seconds, but like I said, it fits two wait 0 into one game frame of 1/16 sec |
| 00:21.18 | Bounty | you wanna see the trigger Dustin? hahaha |
| 00:21.32 | Dustin | yesss |
| 00:22.39 | Taintedwisp | bounty I have yet to try your shit eating princess Remake map :P |
| 00:23.18 | Zolden | bouynty, have you managed to create a vid? |
| 00:23.27 | DeadZergling | hrrrmm, so why would a .0625 wait beat a .2 one? |
| 00:23.39 | Bounty | Here it is Dustin |
| 00:23.45 | Bounty | The one and only |
| 00:23.48 | Bounty | All purpose |
| 00:23.49 | A1win | DeadZergling, it doesn't "beat it", the .2 sec wait just has time in it when nothing happens |
| 00:23.50 | Bounty | All fuctioning |
| 00:23.53 | Bounty | Combat trigger |
| 00:23.54 | Bounty | http://pastebin.com/yvfvEB2J |
| 00:23.56 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:24.03 | Bounty | its on mapster front page Zolden |
| 00:24.11 | A1win | DeadZergling, everything that has no waits is always executed during one game frame of 0.0625 seconds |
| 00:24.29 | Dustin | Hehe nice, ya it's a big trigger |
| 00:24.38 | A1win | so adding a 0.0625 sec wait means that it will be executed in the next frame instead of the current one |
| 00:24.46 | Zolden | omg, it's 1 trigger? |
| 00:24.48 | Bounty | u think it will make the game run better Dustin? |
| 00:24.56 | Dustin | Little bit |
| 00:25.26 | DeadZergling | so I'm not going to trash someone's computer by using .0625 waits, right? |
| 00:25.37 | A1win | yup |
| 00:26.09 | A1win | you can't trash it with the script engine, only with things that you "produce" with it |
| 00:26.13 | Bounty | I think you guys are going to be wrong on this |
| 00:26.13 | A1win | like spawning insane amounts of units |
| 00:26.22 | Bounty | I dont see how this one giant trigger |
| 00:26.25 | Bounty | will increase performance |
| 00:26.26 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:26.30 | Bounty | but it better bc i spent all day on it |
| 00:26.44 | A1win | I don't want to even look at it :P |
| 00:26.47 | DeadZergling | well, it is large |
| 00:26.54 | A1win | "one giant trigger" sounds like something from a nightmare |
| 00:26.58 | DeadZergling | but I'd call it more of a 12 oz espresso |
| 00:27.06 | DeadZergling | not a real grande or anything |
| 00:27.07 | Zolden | he-he, bloody :) |
| 00:27.23 | Bounty | Deadzergling |
| 00:27.26 | Bounty | look at the trigger event |
| 00:27.32 | Bounty | and then look at the map that it is for |
| 00:27.35 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:27.41 | Taintedwisp | Hey bounty is your map published? |
| 00:27.46 | Bounty | nope |
| 00:27.50 | Bounty | sitll have not found an artist |
| 00:27.50 | Taintedwisp | damn :P |
| 00:27.52 | Bounty | so, nope |
| 00:28.08 | Taintedwisp | ill make you a picture |
| 00:28.12 | Taintedwisp | Might be stick figures though... |
| 00:28.13 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 00:28.16 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:28.48 | DeadZergling | I see a lot of it bounty |
| 00:28.53 | DeadZergling | I see I'd do a lot of it in data, lol |
| 00:28.59 | Dustin | Damnit bounty |
| 00:29.09 | Bounty | ? |
| 00:29.12 | Dustin | Like every scene you put into the video is one where you kick my ass :P |
| 00:29.29 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:29.32 | Zolden | Bounty: looks cool, i'd play it |
| 00:29.34 | DeadZergling | no, one giant trigger isn't bad |
| 00:29.37 | DeadZergling | better is |
| 00:29.41 | DeadZergling | ONE TRIGGER TO RULE THEM ALL |
| 00:29.44 | Bounty | The way it worked before was |
| 00:29.49 | Bounty | Each damage type had its own trigger event |
| 00:29.50 | Bounty | and trigger |
| 00:29.58 | Bounty | but i was told its better to have one big one then a few little ones |
| 00:30.02 | A1win | split things into functions/actions :P |
| 00:30.08 | A1win | it's called organizing! |
| 00:30.20 | A1win | and modularity |
| 00:30.33 | Bounty | it is organized |
| 00:30.37 | Bounty | i have no problem reading it |
| 00:30.42 | Bounty | you just gotta follow it like a tree branch |
| 00:30.43 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:31.17 | A1win | DeadZergling, also you don't need to create a thread of something if you don't need anything to happen after that, because everything is in its own thread by default |
| 00:31.19 | DeadZergling | no, it is very readable |
| 00:31.35 | DeadZergling | I just don't know why half isn't done in data, if not all |
| 00:31.44 | A1win | like if you have a trigger that starts an action that loops infinitely, that trigger already is a thread |
| 00:31.49 | DeadZergling | that is just me though |
| 00:31.56 | Bounty | I can tell you why DeadZergling |
| 00:31.58 | Bounty | Time |
| 00:32.00 | DeadZergling | I forced myself to use the data editor for months straight |
| 00:32.03 | Bounty | I dont have time to do shit in data lol |
| 00:32.07 | A1win | but if you have a trigger that starts two actions that loop infinitely, you need at least the first action to be threaded, because otherwise the 2nd action never gets called |
| 00:32.09 | DeadZergling | to get more comfortable with it |
| 00:32.19 | Zolden | data is faster I'd say' |
| 00:32.24 | Bounty | ha |
| 00:32.28 | DeadZergling | it really depends on the job Bounty |
| 00:32.32 | Bounty | go try to remake any map ive made in less time with data :) |
| 00:32.37 | Bounty | for what i do |
| 00:32.40 | Bounty | triggers are better imo |
| 00:32.51 | A1win | yeah each does its own thing |
| 00:32.53 | A1win | overlap a bit |
| 00:33.24 | A1win | some things can't be done with triggers and some things can't be done with data |
| 00:33.34 | A1win | some things can be done fast with data and slowly with triggers, and vice versa |
| 00:33.42 | Bounty | Everything i do just so happens to be able to be done in triggers |
| 00:33.43 | Bounty | :) |
| 00:33.50 | Bounty | yeah but |
| 00:33.52 | Zolden | my last map is a remake of pretty complicated game, and it's all pure data, except the things which weren't possible, and yeah, it feels pretty comfortable to implement and fix |
| 00:33.53 | Bounty | the games i make |
| 00:33.56 | Bounty | are faster to make |
| 00:33.58 | Bounty | with triggers |
| 00:34.04 | A1win | I know ;p |
| 00:34.21 | DeadZergling | The game I make, may be completed, by 2014.... |
| 00:34.22 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 00:34.28 | Bounty | would prolly take a month |
| 00:34.32 | Bounty | to remake Gnolls VS Trolls in pure data |
| 00:34.42 | A1win | DeadZergling, and you only gave me what is it 12 days now D: |
| 00:34.50 | DeadZergling | sure did A1 |
| 00:34.52 | A1win | ;p |
| 00:34.58 | Zolden | Bounty: how much it took with triggers? |
| 00:35.07 | Bounty | for the first version? |
| 00:35.07 | DeadZergling | I'm talking about giving up |
| 00:35.10 | DeadZergling | not being finished |
| 00:35.11 | Bounty | 3-4 days |
| 00:35.12 | Zolden | yea |
| 00:35.13 | A1win | :P |
| 00:35.26 | Zolden | unvelievable |
| 00:35.57 | Bounty | Sometimes i wish i had the time to learn data |
| 00:36.02 | DeadZergling | oh i dunno, hardest looking part to me is finding nice models/textures, lol |
| 00:36.09 | Bounty | but as of this moment, i dont plan on makign anything that needs data |
| 00:36.17 | Bounty | aka RPG's etc |
| 00:36.32 | DeadZergling | yea Bounty, I've thought of making a game or two |
| 00:36.39 | DeadZergling | minimal data editing, some triggers |
| 00:36.45 | Zolden | DeadZergling: yea, it takes time, nothing feels perfect, so you try and try |
| 00:36.49 | DeadZergling | just to start a project and finish it, lol |
| 00:36.56 | Bounty | DeadZergling |
| 00:36.59 | Bounty | You want my advice? |
| 00:37.03 | Bounty | Do ports of your favorite games |
| 00:37.04 | Bounty | :) |
| 00:37.06 | Bounty | its very fun |
| 00:37.11 | DeadZergling | ports? |
| 00:37.11 | Zolden | Bounty: agree |
| 00:37.14 | Zolden | fucking fun |
| 00:37.15 | Bounty | yeah |
| 00:37.19 | Bounty | i did Slender |
| 00:37.21 | Bounty | with Haunted Forest |
| 00:37.24 | Bounty | and now im doing fat princess |
| 00:37.32 | DeadZergling | this is a problem for me though |
| 00:37.34 | Zolden | my first 4 maps are ports |
| 00:37.34 | Bounty | pick a game you loved that nobody plays anymore |
| 00:37.38 | DeadZergling | as my favorite was Everquest :P |
| 00:37.38 | Bounty | and remake it |
| 00:37.39 | Zolden | 2 more coming |
| 00:37.47 | Bounty | Deadzergling |
| 00:37.48 | DeadZergling | so really, that is what I'm doing right now |
| 00:37.50 | Bounty | EQ was my fav to |
| 00:37.53 | Bounty | but be realistic |
| 00:37.55 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:38.03 | DeadZergling | Oh I know, I'm not going to have 200 zones |
| 00:38.05 | Bounty | pref console games |
| 00:38.06 | DeadZergling | raid zones, etc |
| 00:38.13 | Bounty | console games are easiest to remake |
| 00:38.25 | DeadZergling | but I can design hard to beat monsters and abilities that are fun to use |
| 00:38.28 | DeadZergling | and require micro |
| 00:38.37 | Zolden | Bounty: have anyone remade Contra from old nes? |
| 00:38.44 | DeadZergling | One of my big mistakes was allowing items |
| 00:38.46 | Bounty | i think someone did |
| 00:38.49 | Bounty | but never finished |
| 00:38.58 | DeadZergling | contra was awesome |
| 00:39.08 | DeadZergling | gets a little difficult the 4th or 5th play through though |
| 00:39.10 | Bounty | Contra would be an easy game to remake |
| 00:39.13 | Taintedwisp | yeah I saw someone had started and even published one |
| 00:39.14 | Bounty | except for the 3D shooting |
| 00:39.15 | Zolden | unfinished ports look sad, I saw a dune II on eu - so sad |
| 00:39.16 | Bounty | and jumping |
| 00:39.21 | Taintedwisp | but that was back in November of last year |
| 00:39.33 | DeadZergling | I was just sick that way though |
| 00:39.37 | DeadZergling | I'd beat the game repeatedly |
| 00:39.49 | Zolden | :) |
| 00:40.00 | DeadZergling | Or here is one, beat Ninja Gaiden, without dying once. |
| 00:40.09 | Dustin | Skizot made that contra map |
| 00:40.17 | Dustin | never finished it, but it was cool |
| 00:40.19 | Bounty | ah shit |
| 00:40.21 | Bounty | i forgot dustin |
| 00:40.24 | Zolden | or Darkwing Duck... duckies could remake it |
| 00:40.26 | Bounty | im supposed to add the second mode today |
| 00:40.28 | Bounty | whoopsie |
| 00:40.31 | Bounty | shouldnt take long |
| 00:40.33 | Bounty | >.< |
| 00:40.33 | Dustin | lol |
| 00:40.38 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=G8aoBhjF42s |
| 00:40.39 | Taintedwisp | There |
| 00:40.39 | Bounty | standard domination |
| 00:40.39 | DeadZergling | Probably why my testers complain about difficulty in my RPG.... |
| 00:40.41 | Bounty | with the towers |
| 00:40.44 | Taintedwisp | It was called Metal Slug |
| 00:40.45 | Zolden | can't wait the global play to check NA maps |
| 00:40.48 | DeadZergling | I have pretty high standards... |
| 00:41.20 | Bounty | You sound like a Demons Soul guy |
| 00:41.28 | DeadZergling | Never played that one, but yes |
| 00:41.30 | DeadZergling | I know of it, lol |
| 00:41.46 | DeadZergling | Loved Ninja Gaiden for the 360 |
| 00:42.00 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: ty, looks nice |
| 00:42.16 | DeadZergling | what a disgustingly difficult game |
| 00:42.40 | Bounty | this is going to be so easy Dustin |
| 00:42.43 | Bounty | i just have to remove the Prisoners |
| 00:42.47 | DeadZergling | move your little move stick the wrong way for a moment |
| 00:42.49 | DeadZergling | and you are fucked |
| 00:42.50 | Bounty | and add a number UI |
| 00:42.50 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:43.04 | DeadZergling | no mercy in that game at all |
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| 00:47.17 | Taintedwisp | Thats not good, Activision payed for a good review of Bops 2, as they always do, Ign and PCgamer are known sellouts, :P And all they got was a 7/10 which is kidna crappy :P |
| 00:58.20 | EnexyNunu | there's also a video on someone beating ninja gaiden on master never dying once |
| 00:58.24 | EnexyNunu | or w/e the highest diff is |
| 01:02.10 | EnexyNunu | that's lame, the video is private |
| 01:02.14 | EnexyNunu | why would he do that ;x |
| 01:12.13 | Dustin | You not done with that yet bounty? |
| 01:12.21 | Dustin | Jesus man, its been like 20 minutes |
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| 01:13.58 | Taintedwisp | SCROTUM MAN!!! |
| 01:17.10 | Bounty | what? |
| 01:17.11 | Taintedwisp | Anyone else think its funny they created an entire Website dedicated to the B.net champoinships? |
| 01:17.14 | Bounty | im adding the second mode Dustin |
| 01:17.15 | Bounty | sorry lol |
| 01:17.21 | Taintedwisp | http://us.battle.net/bwc/en/news/\ |
| 01:17.23 | Taintedwisp | http://us.battle.net/bwc/en/news/ |
| 01:17.32 | Taintedwisp | Yet there isnt a new "Just battle.net" forums.. |
| 01:17.33 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 01:22.28 | Vindicator | anyone know where attachment point names are now in the cutscene editor? |
| 01:22.47 | Vindicator | i see the attatchment points, that's not a problem |
| 01:23.08 | zeldarules28 | Heads up guys- Starcraft 2 Wold Championships starting in 35 minutes |
| 01:23.21 | Triceron | woot! |
| 01:23.29 | zeldarules28 | Free stream located here if you're interested: http://us.battle.net/bwc/en/ |
| 01:23.51 | zeldarules28 | Too bad we didn't have anybody who could really use the tickets... It's in shanghai >.> |
| 01:24.06 | Triceron | hope Grubby isn't still sick |
| 01:24.33 | zeldarules28 | I dont really keep up with the sc2 melee scene- I just watch the huge tournoments ;P |
| 01:25.06 | Taintedwisp | Zelda sooo what I am hearing is that these are the Elympics right? |
| 01:25.46 | zeldarules28 | There were rumors that there should be E-sports in the actual Olympics |
| 01:26.05 | zeldarules28 | I personally doubt it will happen any time soon, if ever |
| 01:26.38 | Bounty | Dustin, do me a favor? |
| 01:26.47 | Taintedwisp | yeah, only because Gaming would be larger then The olympics :P |
| 01:27.30 | zeldarules28 | I disagree, Wisp |
| 01:27.58 | zeldarules28 | I love E-sports, but the olympics are a event of world-wide scale. About athletic champions |
| 01:28.12 | zeldarules28 | We should have a separate E-sports olympics. But that won't happen for a long time :P |
| 01:28.39 | DeadZergling | hard to say |
| 01:28.50 | DeadZergling | rate people are getting addicted to technology |
| 01:29.16 | DeadZergling | could have a marathon texting for 5 hours on mobile devices |
| 01:29.24 | zeldarules28 | lol :P |
| 01:29.31 | DeadZergling | see who can get the most in there, and is the most accurate |
| 01:30.27 | DeadZergling | e-sports are a little fun, besides when a protoss player wins |
| 01:30.35 | DeadZergling | I'd rather just stare at code though, lol |
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| 01:31.18 | zeldarules28 | I'll be back later for the event. 'Cya guys |
| 01:33.43 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 01:33.49 | Taintedwisp | deadzergling :P |
| 01:34.10 | Taintedwisp | Thats blizzards fault, they refuse to do ANYTHING about the deathball problem... |
| 01:34.22 | Taintedwisp | Every unit for the protoss, has been made to back up another unit |
| 01:34.32 | Taintedwisp | Nothing in the protoss army can hold its own by itself |
| 01:34.55 | Dustin | sc2 does feel alotmore 'balley' |
| 01:34.58 | Dustin | than bw |
| 01:35.07 | Taintedwisp | Thats because BW had shit pathing :P |
| 01:35.15 | Taintedwisp | Units Auto ball up like they should |
| 01:35.17 | DeadZergling | yes, yes it did |
| 01:35.17 | Dustin | feature! |
| 01:35.35 | Taintedwisp | They could easily fix this if it did like AoE2 did, and have a Button to press to keep formation |
| 01:35.39 | Bounty | Dustin |
| 01:35.41 | Bounty | do me a favoR? |
| 01:35.52 | Taintedwisp | if that one little button was added I could do SOO many crazy ass stratagies |
| 01:36.02 | Dustin | ? |
| 01:36.29 | Bounty | go to the Gnolls VS Trolls channel and let everyone know im coming online soon with the new mode |
| 01:36.35 | Bounty | and let me know how manyppl are in there lol |
| 01:37.22 | Taintedwisp | CRAP!!! went to launch Sc2.... and hit Sc BW |
| 01:38.23 | Taintedwisp | Bounty there are 5 people |
| 01:38.27 | Taintedwisp | 2 in game 2 away |
| 01:38.28 | Taintedwisp | and myself |
| 01:38.31 | Bounty | kk |
| 01:38.34 | Bounty | ill be on in a few mins |
| 01:38.58 | DeadZergling | I don't get how they decide who is in each set of finals |
| 01:39.11 | DeadZergling | like I don't see life or fatty in the list |
| 01:39.59 | Taintedwisp | They probably draw slips from a hat |
| 01:40.08 | Taintedwisp | Figure of speech ... |
| 01:40.48 | DeadZergling | right, but why are so many from the last competition missing? |
| 01:41.01 | DeadZergling | zerg is definitely popular, 15 out of 32 players use zerg, lol |
| 01:46.26 | Taintedwisp | Deadzergling thats ONLY becaus ethere is an obvious Misbalancing... |
| 01:46.38 | Taintedwisp | The Infestors are Killing EVERYTHING right now |
| 01:46.52 | Bounty | Taintedwisp and Dustin, uploading the new update now :) |
| 01:47.27 | DeadZergling | very few terrans |
| 01:48.06 | DeadZergling | lol, one of the terran players uses the name Fenix |
| 01:48.42 | Taintedwisp | waiiit... whats your In game name Dustin? |
| 01:49.13 | Taintedwisp | Fenix did get it on with a human... |
| 01:51.32 | Bounty | Dustin, get online |
| 01:51.51 | DeadZergling | hrrrmmm, have to look closely at the descriptions on some of these |
| 01:51.59 | DeadZergling | can't be sure if some of the koreans are male or female.. |
| 01:52.13 | Taintedwisp | Fenix did get it on with a human... |
| 01:52.21 | Taintedwisp | Some of the canadians are ITS!!! |
| 01:52.31 | DeadZergling | well now we know what you think about all the time TW |
| 01:52.39 | DeadZergling | fenix having sex and scarlett |
| 02:02.09 | zeldarules28|AFK | World championships opening cermonies- http://us.battle.net/bwc/en/ |
| 02:04.50 | Repo | New announcement: Battlenet World Championships- Live now! - http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/battlenet-world-championships-live-now/ |
| 02:05.50 | Taintedwisp | and.. its in chink... |
| 02:05.55 | zeldarules28|AFK | How do you even repost that so fast |
| 02:06.03 | zeldarules28|AFK | I dont even repost it that fast >.> |
| 02:06.08 | Taintedwisp | repo is a bot :P |
| 02:06.18 | zeldarules28|AFK | Oh thank goodness |
| 02:06.22 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 02:06.22 | zeldarules28|AFK | I was worried |
| 02:06.31 | Taintedwisp | it tells whenever a new project is created, or an annoucement |
| 02:06.42 | zeldarules28|AFK | wow, thats prety shnazzy |
| 02:08.34 | Taintedwisp | And the sound is broken... |
| 02:08.38 | Taintedwisp | broken as shit |
| 02:08.39 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 02:08.45 | Taintedwisp | video too |
| 02:08.47 | zeldarules28|AFK | working for me O.o |
| 02:09.04 | Taintedwisp | really? |
| 02:09.11 | Taintedwisp | mines like a echoey skippy crapfest |
| 02:09.13 | zeldarules28|AFK | yeah its great quality |
| 02:09.40 | Taintedwisp | wow... |
| 02:09.53 | Taintedwisp | just figured out wha tit was... I went to Mapster and that crap autoplayed |
| 02:11.18 | zeldarules28|AFK | Im watching it on mapster now, its fine |
| 02:12.19 | Taintedwisp | i'[m watchiong on the main sit e:P, I hit mapster to check the forums and didnt notice that it autoplayed haah |
| 02:12.26 | zeldarules28|AFK | :P |
| 02:12.42 | Triceron | hmm, mapster one seemed to load a second faster |
| 02:13.21 | zeldarules28|AFK | thats cuz we're awesome |
| 02:13.33 | Taintedwisp | they could have hired a translator to speak into the Stream... or subtitle it... |
| 02:13.45 | Taintedwisp | nvm haha |
| 02:13.46 | zeldarules28|AFK | it is subtitled |
| 02:13.47 | Taintedwisp | theres the subs |
| 02:13.50 | zeldarules28|AFK | :P |
| 02:13.54 | Taintedwisp | :P those i guess were laggin out too.. |
| 02:14.03 | Triceron | I can understand it fine. They're talking shit about white christian males in their 20's right now. |
| 02:14.07 | Bounty | Taintedwisp |
| 02:14.08 | Taintedwisp | I think my computer is starting to to break |
| 02:14.11 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 02:14.12 | Bounty | how was your performance and response time? |
| 02:14.23 | Taintedwisp | in Gnolls Vs Trolls? perfect |
| 02:14.31 | Taintedwisp | Even on meduim the lag was Less then ANYTHING else |
| 02:14.42 | Bounty | i guess the optimizations did something |
| 02:14.43 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:14.44 | Taintedwisp | on medium i was getting 25 frames and on low i was at 40 |
| 02:14.54 | Triceron | input lag finally fixed? |
| 02:15.00 | Taintedwisp | ohhh input? |
| 02:15.09 | Taintedwisp | I didnt notice any input lag |
| 02:15.20 | Bounty | :) |
| 02:16.25 | zeldarules28|AFK | Glad to hear it |
| 02:16.36 | Bounty | anyone want to come playtest Gnolls VS Trolls new mode? |
| 02:16.39 | Taintedwisp | I have to ask... WHY CHINA!! :P i figured Seoul of Cali or NY would have been the final place for the world finals |
| 02:16.44 | zeldarules28 | Not now during the tournoment :P |
| 02:16.50 | zeldarules28 | But I really want too |
| 02:16.51 | zeldarules28 | urghhghgh |
| 02:17.02 | Bounty | I love how esports is somehow more important than having fun |
| 02:17.03 | Taintedwisp | Bounty im in |
| 02:17.04 | Bounty | >.< |
| 02:17.13 | Taintedwisp | I hate watching Slow subs over chinese :P |
| 02:17.18 | Taintedwisp | ill watch the games later |
| 02:17.30 | zeldarules28 | How lonng do the games last? |
| 02:17.38 | zeldarules28 | Oh no, I havent patched sc2 ] |
| 02:17.40 | Taintedwisp | 5-10 minutes when we played haha |
| 02:17.40 | Bounty | not long in the new mode |
| 02:17.41 | zeldarules28 | >.> |
| 02:17.47 | Triceron | prolly more about WoW than SC2. WoW finals being played too |
| 02:17.51 | zeldarules28 | whats the new mode :P Im curious |
| 02:18.05 | Bounty | capture towers and get enemies Invasion Points to zero |
| 02:18.08 | Bounty | just like FP |
| 02:18.09 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:18.14 | Taintedwisp | Zelda have you played Dominon in LoL? |
| 02:18.16 | Taintedwisp | Kinda like that |
| 02:18.21 | zeldarules28 | I never played Fat princess, just thought it looked like it could work well in sc2 |
| 02:18.23 | Bounty | get online |
| 02:18.26 | Taintedwisp | You stand by the In this case tower, and you capture it |
| 02:18.26 | Bounty | join channel Gnolls VS Trolls |
| 02:18.29 | Bounty | for invite |
| 02:18.31 | zeldarules28 | Patching's done :D |
| 02:18.37 | zeldarules28 | 1 sec |
| 02:18.44 | Bounty | Dustin? You want in? |
| 02:18.51 | Taintedwisp | IM COMING!! :P |
| 02:19.00 | Taintedwisp | Hey bounty after the test you wanna see a quick look at EvoFrenzy? |
| 02:19.08 | zeldarules28 | is that yours, wisp? |
| 02:19.10 | Bounty | i dont like those type of maps but sures |
| 02:19.12 | Bounty | >.< |
| 02:19.12 | Taintedwisp | yup |
| 02:19.14 | DeadZergling | what we've all been waiting for |
| 02:19.17 | DeadZergling | the speaker to cough |
| 02:19.52 | zeldarules28 | Ugh, I need to finish starmon |
| 02:19.57 | Bounty | waiting on u zelda.... |
| 02:20.01 | zeldarules28 | Im loading! |
| 02:20.03 | DeadZergling | there he coughes some more, lol |
| 02:20.07 | Bounty | OVERCLOCK |
| 02:20.08 | Bounty | ffs |
| 02:23.59 | Triceron | so there's like... 4 streams going on at the same time? |
| 02:25.43 | DeadZergling | any of them in english, lol |
| 02:25.56 | DeadZergling | the chinese then english afterwards is driving me nuts |
| 02:26.00 | TheSkunk__ | it will be english casting |
| 02:26.14 | Triceron | who's casting it? |
| 02:26.23 | TheSkunk__ | lots of different people lol |
| 02:26.59 | TheSkunk__ | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/7810831/Battlenet_World_Championship_--_Meet_the_Casters_-11_8_2012 |
| 02:29.54 | Triceron | oh nice, Grubby's gonna be in |
| 02:32.56 | Skaft | I dont like when there's too many streams |
| 02:32.59 | Skaft | i prefer 1 or 2 :/ |
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| 02:33.41 | Triceron | yeah this is gonna be hard to watch |
| 02:33.53 | Triceron | I'll prolly just pick the one with my fave casters |
| 02:33.58 | Triceron | or players |
| 02:34.35 | Skaft | yeah |
| 02:34.44 | Skaft | pick the one with the least annoying casters :p |
| 02:36.58 | Triceron | kinda weird how they still use Tychus as the posterboy of SC2 when he's dead :/ |
| 02:37.47 | Taintedwisp | I didnt even care that much for tychus... he was a great chracter but hes died... sooooo |
| 02:38.00 | Taintedwisp | I would say Raynor is the real main terran |
| 02:38.13 | Taintedwisp | And they should Re-Shave his head in HoTS!!! |
| 02:38.24 | Taintedwisp | EVERYONE GO TWEET #BaldRaynor |
| 02:38.26 | Triceron | Raynor could've been the face of the SC2 box |
| 02:38.41 | Triceron | cuz you know Kerrigan's gonna be used for HOTS and Zeratul for LOTV |
| 02:39.05 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 02:39.14 | Triceron | zomg kill it with fire! |
| 02:39.23 | Taintedwisp | actualyl In LoTV, I suspect it will be Zeratul or the dark one |
| 02:39.30 | DeadZergling | if you are talking about raynor's face |
| 02:39.33 | DeadZergling | yes, do kill it with fire. |
| 02:39.47 | Bounty | Im disapointed Taintedwisp |
| 02:39.49 | Taintedwisp | BALD RAYNOR BALD RAYNOR BALD RAYNOR!!! |
| 02:39.49 | Triceron | talking about that thing on stage |
| 02:39.51 | Bounty | i thought ur map was like, almost released |
| 02:39.54 | Bounty | then u show me that |
| 02:39.59 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 02:39.59 | Bounty | its like Tofu all over again |
| 02:40.06 | Bounty | Evo Tofu |
| 02:40.11 | Bounty | >.< |
| 02:40.18 | Taintedwisp | LOL i could finish it up if I could get the Heroes completed :P |
| 02:40.18 | DeadZergling | i thought tofu was supposed to be released |
| 02:40.20 | Bounty | I anticipate its release in 2014 |
| 02:40.21 | Triceron | you should call your map that |
| 02:40.23 | Taintedwisp | The heroes are holdin me back |
| 02:40.30 | DeadZergling | or is that back to soon, lol |
| 02:40.39 | Bounty | theres ur problem Tainted |
| 02:40.41 | Bounty | data |
| 02:40.43 | Bounty | :) |
| 02:40.46 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 02:41.08 | Taintedwisp | I hate making abilities but 80-90% are completed then they just have to all be made levelable abilities |
| 02:41.15 | Taintedwisp | The upgrades I can do in 1 day :P |
| 02:41.19 | Taintedwisp | Same with defensive buildings |
| 02:41.28 | Taintedwisp | Events will be quickly made, so will bosses |
| 02:41.46 | Taintedwisp | If the heroes were completed and my trigger editor wanted to get on it, We could have it done in 2 weeks :P |
| 02:41.54 | Taintedwisp | besides balancing the heroes |
| 02:41.55 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 02:41.58 | DeadZergling | yea, tofu all over again |
| 02:42.04 | Taintedwisp | heroes take FOREVER!!! |
| 02:42.07 | DeadZergling | I can hear it in the way TW describes it all |
| 02:42.16 | Taintedwisp | Remind me to NEVER make another map with heroes... |
| 02:42.23 | Taintedwisp | I honestly hate them with a passion |
| 02:42.34 | Bounty | heroes take forever in data |
| 02:42.35 | Bounty | :) |
| 02:42.40 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 02:42.43 | Taintedwisp | hah |
| 02:42.46 | Bounty | i made project avatar heroes in 1 day |
| 02:43.13 | Taintedwisp | lol but you knew what you were doing, For each ability i have to learn it as I go |
| 02:43.27 | Bounty | no i didnt |
| 02:43.32 | Bounty | i did all of their abilities in triggers |
| 02:43.43 | Bounty | but i just use dummy abilities to fire the trigger via command card |
| 02:43.54 | Bounty | :)\ |
| 02:44.05 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 02:44.05 | Bounty | so it looks just like it was done in data |
| 02:44.07 | Bounty | but it wasnt |
| 02:44.11 | Taintedwisp | hah |
| 02:44.29 | Taintedwisp | yeah thats the way that guy Thunderlord said he does his, in triggers haha |
| 02:44.38 | Taintedwisp | Mines Brutal data work... |
| 02:44.53 | Triceron | you find things easier to do through triggers than data, Bounty? |
| 02:44.58 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKXS6UHYvP0 |
| 02:45.00 | Bounty | all triggers |
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| 02:46.33 | tordy | DUSTIN BROWDER SIGHTING |
| 02:46.39 | zeldarules28 | Triggers are so much easier ^.^ |
| 02:47.07 | zeldarules28 | Of course, thats coming for a triggerer, so.....Take it with a grain of salt. |
| 02:47.11 | Bounty | i did that in like 4 hours |
| 02:47.16 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:47.25 | Bounty | its just fact zelda |
| 02:47.31 | Bounty | triggers are more time efficient |
| 02:47.36 | Bounty | you cannot argue against that >.< |
| 02:47.51 | zeldarules28 | Well yeah, but theres tons of stuff that you can really do properly with them |
| 02:48.07 | zeldarules28 | Mighty does the data stuff for starmon and it looks beautiful |
| 02:48.18 | Triceron | woo! tastosis |
| 02:48.44 | tordy | yes we could hear you tastosis |
| 02:49.12 | zeldarules28 | lol these two |
| 02:49.17 | zeldarules28 | Spider, spider, hey, spider |
| 02:49.18 | zeldarules28 | hey |
| 02:49.22 | Skaft | are they streaming atm |
| 02:49.30 | tordy | how long is day 1? |
| 02:49.43 | tordy | this gonna suck for east coast |
| 02:49.44 | DeadZergling | that video made me think of lag half the time I watched it, lol |
| 02:49.53 | zeldarules28 | 10 hours |
| 02:50.01 | zeldarules28 | So it'll end like tomorow morning for us :D |
| 02:50.06 | tordy | lame |
| 02:50.10 | Bounty | what video deadzergling? |
| 02:50.27 | tordy | dumb spider |
| 02:50.38 | Skaft | lol, it's already 3:50 am here, you should be happy, haha |
| 02:50.57 | zeldarules28 | You can get it in your loca ltime |
| 02:51.01 | zeldarules28 | http://us.battle.net/bwc/en/schedule/ |
| 02:51.06 | zeldarules28 | Click 'local time' bubble on top right |
| 02:51.07 | DeadZergling | one you posted bounty, lol |
| 02:51.14 | Bounty | lol? that makes no sense |
| 02:51.22 | Bounty | nothing in that video suggests any lag whatsoever |
| 02:51.24 | zeldarules28 | audio dead for everybody else? |
| 02:51.44 | DeadZergling | way too big graphics mostly |
| 02:53.50 | DeadZergling | suppose it is a cunning strategy though |
| 02:54.11 | tordy | yo wassup how ya guys doing |
| 02:54.16 | DeadZergling | blind everyone w/ ginormous actor sizes, causing death before they can know where they are and escape |
| 02:54.18 | tordy | wassup Dustin |
| 02:54.24 | tordy | wassup DeadZergling |
| 02:54.39 | Triceron | bleh sound's all cut out |
| 02:54.42 | DeadZergling | not too much tordy, decided to get confused by a1 for awhile earlier about threads, lol |
| 02:55.42 | tordy | a1 steak sauce? |
| 02:56.56 | DeadZergling | a1win |
| 02:57.13 | tordy | oh |
| 02:57.20 | tordy | sorry about that A1win |
| 02:57.24 | A1win | ;X |
| 02:57.33 | A1win | I can be a steak sauce too |
| 02:57.35 | DeadZergling | is fine, a1 steak sauce is a win |
| 02:57.40 | DeadZergling | so it makes sense |
| 02:58.03 | DeadZergling | anyways, I'm out of here |
| 02:58.10 | DeadZergling | thanks again for the help w/ threads a1 |
| 02:58.26 | DeadZergling | I'll be trying some out to replace some of my stupider triggers soon, lol |
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| 10:57.56 | G0A | * http://www.twitch.tv/sc2 |
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| 12:27.11 | Monkalizer | hello |
| 12:34.40 | Ahli | scarlett vs nerchio... 50 minutes ZvZ with broodlords vs broodlords... |
| 12:39.55 | Monkalizer | sounds... interesting... Are they poking each other to death? |
| 12:40.03 | Monkalizer | flapping |
| 12:40.20 | Monkalizer | ? |
| 12:46.08 | Frenchpeople | Ahli, mein lieber, wo ist der schtream? |
| 12:47.06 | Zolden | Ahli, gimme a link pls, I'd glance |
| 12:49.08 | Ahli | http://www.teamliquid.net WCS on the right top side |
| 12:54.54 | Zolden | does fatty play? |
| 12:56.49 | Frenchpeople | Which of the many many streams, Ahli? |
| 12:57.20 | Zolden | the top ione i guess |
| 12:57.31 | Frenchpeople | Top 1 is closed already |
| 12:57.32 | Frenchpeople | stream 1 |
| 12:57.34 | Zolden | the one with the most viewers |
| 12:57.56 | Ahli | scarlett won vs nerchio already |
| 12:58.28 | Zolden | sure it won, it's on hormones |
| 12:58.35 | Ahli | ^^ |
| 12:58.57 | Frenchpeople | SOOOO WENT THERe |
| 12:59.04 | Zolden | I checked its interview, the voice is so strange - women when it's trying with men at corners |
| 13:00.23 | Ahli | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:00.55 | Zolden | crap |
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| 13:33.06 | Monkalizer | could some native english speaker help me with a name suggestion? I have four buttons/tabs in my UI, and I dont know what to call them. For units I have SquadMembers/Recruits for the units the players have and have not. Tech/Upgrades are more problematic |
| 13:33.23 | Monkalizer | Now I call it Aquired Technologies/Upgrades |
| 13:33.33 | Monkalizer | but the Aquired Technologies is a bit long... |
| 13:34.14 | Monkalizer | It has to be a name that implies that the player "has" or "owns" them |
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| 14:50.17 | Bounty | Morning all |
| 14:50.43 | Monkalizer | hello |
| 14:51.55 | Monkalizer | there is not a lot of action here. when does the eastcoast wake up? |
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| 15:00.19 | Dustin | no idea, but kansas is up now |
| 15:00.31 | Dustin | mornin bounty |
| 15:00.52 | Bounty | I am the east cost Monkalizer |
| 15:00.55 | Bounty | coast* |
| 15:01.04 | Monkalizer | mhm |
| 15:02.57 | Dustin | Gonna play around with the new Unity today |
| 15:04.44 | Dustin | Monkalizer, |
| 15:04.57 | Monkalizer | yeees |
| 15:04.58 | Dustin | just use Your Tech/Upgrades |
| 15:05.15 | Dustin | applies ownership and is short |
| 15:05.48 | Monkalizer | so Technologies implies ownership? |
| 15:05.53 | Dustin | no |
| 15:05.57 | Dustin | Your does |
| 15:06.32 | Monkalizer | hm... well I guess the player would have to click around a little to understand it anyway :) |
| 15:06.40 | duckies | hmm? |
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| 15:22.24 | Zolden | wow, the turrret I'm creating is a masterpiece of turret making art |
| 15:23.04 | Zolden | I feel like not enough eyes to consume its beautiness |
| 15:24.17 | Monkalizer | hype? |
| 15:25.19 | Bounty | So, anyone here able to do decent cartoon style artwork? :) |
| 15:25.25 | Zolden | oh, you wish |
| 15:25.44 | Zolden | the "amazing" word will be a grey nothing to express the impression the turret will impress on |
| 15:25.49 | Monkalizer | neeh I can draw a little but it has too low quality |
| 15:26.07 | Bounty | you have any examples monka? |
| 15:26.15 | Zolden | i can only draw squares and circles, but crookedly |
| 15:26.46 | Zolden | Bounty: I saw his 8 bit skull, it looks ok if you don't look at it |
| 15:26.54 | Bounty | lol |
| 15:27.26 | Monkalizer | pff |
| 15:27.56 | Zolden | just kidding, you skull is great! |
| 15:28.13 | Dustin | Bounty, I wanna try out the new mode! |
| 15:29.24 | Bounty | nobody likes it |
| 15:29.25 | Bounty | haha |
| 15:29.40 | Bounty | Even though they were all excited when i told them what it was |
| 15:29.49 | Bounty | You really need a lot of people for it to be fun |
| 15:30.03 | Dustin | lol |
| 15:30.48 | Zolden | have you tried it 7v7? |
| 15:31.24 | Bounty | ha |
| 15:31.26 | Bounty | yeah right |
| 15:31.31 | Bounty | we want to though |
| 15:31.38 | Bounty | most we have ever had was 5v5 |
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| 15:39.50 | Monkalizer | hehe I have spent 20 minutes makng a 28x100 pixel image that blends different shaders... trial and error ftw! |
| 15:48.59 | Monkalizer | http://monkalizer.blogspot.se/2012/11/new-outline-of-hercmerc-ui.html latest version of the new UI... for anyone interested :) |
| 15:49.40 | Zolden | the elephants? |
| 15:50.09 | Monkalizer | no they are gone now :) the elephants were there because.... i was working on the backbone and had to publish something...new |
| 15:50.46 | Dustin | elephants ftw |
| 15:50.51 | Zolden | the dialogs look prettier now |
| 15:51.07 | Dustin | Yeah, looking real good |
| 15:51.23 | Monkalizer | mhm, i'm pretty pleased with it myself... |
| 15:52.18 | Monkalizer | its really small in terms of number of dialog objects as well! |
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| 15:53.51 | Monkalizer | the dialog objects visible on the image is all there is. I will change the appearance and content of the buttons depending on the tab selected and the player array contents, instead of having player*numberOfTabs*NumberOfItem dialog items |
| 15:54.21 | Monkalizer | and now.... Halo 4 with beer and friends |
| 15:54.34 | Dustin | Psha |
| 15:54.49 | Dustin | I got weed and some code to write |
| 15:58.40 | Zolden | :)) |
| 15:58.53 | Zolden | nice combination |
| 16:01.54 | Dustin | I thought so! |
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| 16:07.05 | Dustin | Actually, Im going to try out this GW2 trial |
| 16:08.47 | Dustin | Man i can't wait for Cube World |
| 16:08.50 | Dustin | gonna be so fun |
| 16:09.12 | Zolden | what's cube world? |
| 16:09.15 | Dustin | http://wollay.blogspot.com/ |
| 16:09.50 | Dustin | It's like, if you took MineCrafts Random World generation, used a Voxel engine, and then remade Zelda with this engine |
| 16:10.29 | Zolden | oh |
| 16:10.51 | Zolden | I'd like someone remake Scorched Earth on this engine |
| 16:25.14 | G0A | Hey Zolden, FIREBALL ARE FUCKING IMBA:D |
| 16:26.56 | G0A | You should really fix the bugs on HOMM |
| 16:27.19 | Zolden | still imba? |
| 16:27.23 | Zolden | what about armageddon? |
| 16:27.59 | Zolden | who would win if human fight vs wizard (with fireball)? |
| 16:28.21 | Zolden | I think human would win |
| 16:28.51 | Zolden | so, if i nerf fireball, what would wizard rely on? |
| 16:28.52 | G0A | Wizard |
| 16:29.00 | Zolden | relay? |
| 16:29.02 | G0A | I can send you reply |
| 16:29.05 | Zolden | realy? |
| 16:29.09 | G0A | replay* |
| 16:29.11 | Zolden | well, i believe |
| 16:29.20 | G0A | he doesnt need army... |
| 16:29.24 | Zolden | alright, I'll put it in the list |
| 16:29.50 | Zolden | but i'll make chainlightning better |
| 16:30.06 | G0A | Also with my armies not always fully engaging it specially imba. |
| 16:30.32 | G0A | ok some other stuff |
| 16:30.36 | G0A | negative income |
| 16:31.06 | G0A | health bars (why to have them over stuff or atleast use different color than green) |
| 16:31.22 | G0A | and add a minimap icon for heros |
| 16:31.33 | G0A | its hard to see them on the map |
| 16:31.55 | Zolden | wow |
| 16:32.02 | Zolden | whesea re good points |
| 16:32.06 | Zolden | thanx alot |
| 16:32.51 | G0A | also |
| 16:33.03 | G0A | I think I didnt get any level 3+ spells |
| 16:33.18 | G0A | even thought I had spell upgraded to level 5 |
| 16:33.22 | Zolden | yes, if you haven't the Magic skill |
| 16:33.33 | G0A | ohh |
| 16:33.37 | Zolden | it's required for 3, 4, 5 lvl spells |
| 16:33.38 | G0A | dam |
| 16:33.43 | Zolden | wizard has it from start |
| 16:33.47 | G0A | add more tooltips:D |
| 16:33.52 | Zolden | :) |
| 16:33.53 | Zolden | yea |
| 16:34.01 | Zolden | but i believe it has one |
| 16:34.56 | Zolden | how's your new map doing? think you can hold it within page 1? |
| 16:35.07 | G0A | hope so |
| 16:35.22 | G0A | wanna kick out the tug of war maps from page 1 |
| 16:35.23 | Zolden | I also so TFF in up in coming |
| 16:35.27 | G0A | yeah |
| 16:35.30 | Zolden | YEAH! |
| 16:35.34 | Zolden | push the bitches |
| 16:36.01 | Zolden | nexus wars and desert strike must fall down as a boring crap |
| 16:36.13 | G0A | once it pushes out nexus wars and desert strike, than I will start to troll with it or use it somehow to advertise other maps |
| 16:36.24 | G0A | anywa |
| 16:36.25 | G0A | y |
| 16:36.27 | Zolden | right |
| 16:36.30 | G0A | bye, I go drink:D |
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| 16:38.48 | Ice4smaster | Hello there |
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| 17:18.43 | Twodie | ZOLDEN! |
| 17:19.30 | Twodie | what to choose when using PS and Nvidia dds exporter format of image for Normal maps? |
| 17:22.01 | Zolden | filters->nvidia |
| 17:22.52 | Zolden | you mean switch purple normal map to orange map, right? |
| 17:22.59 | Zolden | Twodie: |
| 17:23.47 | Twodie | that to know would be nice too |
| 17:24.38 | Twodie | but my problem when saving the image/ exporting it what to choose in type of image save format stuff thing! |
| 17:25.08 | Twodie | dxt1 dxt3 dxt5 and so one |
| 17:25.14 | Twodie | * so on |
| 17:25.35 | Zolden | sec |
| 17:25.42 | Zolden | i'll give you the link |
| 17:26.49 | Zolden | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/6030-tutorial-normal-map-conversion-from-purple-to-orange/ |
| 17:26.57 | Zolden | this one |
| 17:27.43 | Zolden | the "filter -> nvidia -> normal map" is the thing to create normal maps from diffuse map |
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| 17:32.50 | Twodie | yeah thanks :) |
| 17:39.57 | Zolden | making a model which will rape everyone's eyes |
| 17:40.53 | Twodie | so we will need sunglasses or somekind of illiusion stuff? |
| 17:42.43 | Zolden | beauty glasses |
| 17:42.54 | Zolden | the ones which make everything ugly |
| 17:43.24 | Zolden | like in the snow queen tale |
| 17:43.38 | Zolden | then my modle will look ok |
| 17:45.08 | Twodie | heh for some reason seems liek added normal maps texture doesnt effect the textures on models :/ |
| 17:46.45 | Zolden | you must have a white specular map |
| 17:47.07 | Zolden | and specularity set to something between 10-50 |
| 17:47.37 | Zolden | also, make sure that you've saved your orange normal map, reopened it, and saved again |
| 17:47.55 | Zolden | when it opens, it modifies something |
| 17:48.48 | Zolden | specular map can be small, like 16x16 |
| 17:49.03 | Zolden | if you don't plan to detailize |
| 17:50.35 | Twodie | heh that takes too long to make then :///////////////// |
| 17:51.53 | Bounty | I wonder how much in donations SCU has taken in |
| 17:53.54 | Zolden | Twodie: what takes too long? |
| 17:54.25 | zenx | over 9000 dollars I think |
| 17:54.43 | Bounty | sigh lol |
| 17:54.50 | zenx | Anyone wana donate 6k for my map? |
| 17:54.58 | zenx | I get it done in 6months if you do :/ |
| 17:54.59 | zenx | RPG! |
| 17:55.24 | zenx | is should send email to blizzard |
| 17:55.27 | zenx | I think they will donate to me |
| 17:55.30 | Bounty | lol |
| 17:55.32 | Bounty | u would think so |
| 17:55.36 | Bounty | but nope |
| 17:56.38 | Twodie | Zolden all that procedure for textures, its already enough searching for parts for models to be filled with nice texture. |
| 17:57.50 | Zolden | yeah, if you can find a texture with normal map - it's cool, but what if you can't? |
| 17:58.38 | Zolden | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:59.15 | Zolden | 1 hour a model is nothing |
| 18:03.49 | Twodie | heh seems like my Brick wall texture Normal map gives impression that Bricks are inside the concrete and not other way arround |
| 18:04.29 | Zolden | are you talking about the normal you created from diffuse? |
| 18:04.43 | Twodie | yeah |
| 18:05.00 | Zolden | whiter colors will look poped up, black colors will look pushed down |
| 18:05.22 | Twodie | so i need a specular map black? |
| 18:05.35 | Zolden | so, make bricks white-gray, space between them - dark grey |
| 18:05.47 | Twodie | ohhh |
| 18:05.48 | Zolden | specular is always white |
| 18:05.54 | Twodie | well someday someday |
| 18:06.08 | Zolden | but if you use that tool "filters -> nvidia -> normals" |
| 18:06.22 | Zolden | then what i said |
| 18:07.20 | Zolden | if you're going to do it now, I can tell you what properties to set inside the normal map nvidia tool |
| 18:10.27 | Twodie | well ... lazy for that :/ |
| 18:10.50 | Zolden | cmo, it's pretty easy and u'll like the result |
| 18:10.58 | Zolden | wait |
| 18:11.31 | Zolden | do you use unwarp UVW modifier to set squares? |
| 18:11.40 | Twodie | yes for sure |
| 18:11.48 | Twodie | no? |
| 18:11.49 | Zolden | i mean, to spread mesh faces on a texture |
| 18:11.54 | Twodie | yes?! |
| 18:12.03 | Zolden | oh, ok |
| 18:12.14 | Twodie | Unwrap UVW |
| 18:12.17 | Twodie | i use |
| 18:12.19 | Zolden | good |
| 18:13.45 | Twodie | so im there |
| 18:17.18 | Twodie | Zolden? |
| 18:24.10 | Zolden | yea |
| 18:24.16 | Zolden | i'm here ot |
| 18:24.18 | Zolden | too |
| 18:25.49 | Zolden | Twodie: so, u're going to turn diffuse into normal under my guide? |
| 18:26.26 | Twodie | yes my lord |
| 18:26.46 | Zolden | alright |
| 18:27.08 | Twodie | right |
| 18:27.18 | Zolden | 1. Image -> Adjustments -> Black and White |
| 18:27.30 | Zolden | to turn it into black and white |
| 18:27.59 | Zolden | 2. Image -> Adjustments -> Levels |
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| 18:28.27 | Zolden | and there move "output levels" closer to grey |
| 18:29.00 | Zolden | 0, 255 -> 75, 180 |
| 18:29.11 | Zolden | to smoothen contrasts |
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| 18:29.42 | Zolden | 3. Filters -> Nvidia -> normal map filter |
| 18:30.59 | Twodie | annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnndddddddddddddddddd?!?!?!?! |
| 18:31.00 | Zolden | there you have: Alpha Field -> unchanged, Height Source -> Average RGB, MinZ = 0, Scale = 10 |
| 18:31.29 | Zolden | filter type -> 4 sample |
| 18:31.37 | Zolden | then ok and you got the purple one |
| 18:32.18 | Zolden | check Invert Z if you need to invert white and black |
| 18:32.37 | Twodie | interesting thanks |
| 18:33.20 | Zolden | before you applied nvidia filter, you can paint a bit, maybe make some details by darken/lighten some squares |
| 18:54.05 | zelda|AFK | Heads up- Day 2 of the world championships will be starting in about 6 and a half hours |
| 18:58.30 | Zolden | it will be 5 am ;/ |
| 18:59.14 | Ahli | should I sleep before or after it? |
| 18:59.46 | Ahli | so... getting up at 2:30am or going to bed at ~1pm :D |
| 19:16.00 | Zolden | cmon, we're majestic mappers, not fussy fans |
| 19:16.30 | Zolden | we sleep when we need to sleep in sake of mapping |
| 19:16.37 | Ahli | I just repaired my schedule... |
| 19:16.51 | Ahli | if you go to bed at 9am and get up at 4pm it's f*cked up |
| 19:16.58 | Zolden | excluded sleeping at all? |
| 19:16.59 | Ahli | I repaired it by not sleeping at all |
| 19:17.06 | Zolden | :)) |
| 19:17.28 | Ahli | my barber didn't notice :D |
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| 19:55.34 | Zolden | Twodie: so, got anything to work? |
| 19:56.38 | Twodie | with what? textures with which we played? yeah something, not really seems so that those bricks more exposed but when looking in the game the effect of normal maps not really noticable |
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| 20:04.47 | Twodie | zolden 1 |
| 20:04.51 | Twodie | Zolden 2 |
| 20:05.53 | Zolden | maybe create a thread in artist tavern subforum and spam some pictures of what you've got |
| 20:06.17 | Zolden | i'm curious to see |
| 20:06.30 | Zolden | and maybe i'll give an advice of how to improve stuff |
| 20:06.50 | Twodie | Now mostly improving the textures and model buildings for Knights and Merchants map :) |
| 20:06.58 | Zolden | btw, even with skin and normal maps i have to remove Euler sometimes |
| 20:07.08 | Zolden | ok |
| 20:08.06 | Zolden | in a half of hour I'll show something extraordinary |
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| 20:10.58 | Twodie | And here how today projects mostly looks like (cubizm :D ) http://imageshack.us/f/51/workshopg.png/ |
| 20:13.04 | Taintedwisp | Any data editors there? |
| 20:14.34 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: ask |
| 20:15.04 | Zolden | nice house Twodie |
| 20:15.14 | Taintedwisp | Okay I want to make an ability that Pulsates a damage effect and a Buff |
| 20:15.21 | Zolden | can you create mesh-related normal maps yet? |
| 20:15.36 | Zolden | pulsates? |
| 20:15.48 | Twodie | i think i cant |
| 20:16.05 | Taintedwisp | Starts at the center and Hits everything in range, every 2 seconds |
| 20:16.08 | Zolden | well, it's easy, I gave you the video |
| 20:16.13 | Taintedwisp | maybe even every 1 second :P |
| 20:16.17 | Taintedwisp | every 1 second would be better |
| 20:17.15 | Taintedwisp | and I want this Pulsate to Happen as long as the unit is alive |
| 20:17.18 | Zolden | so, you need aura which will deal damage to everything in a radius around the caster every 1 sec? |
| 20:17.20 | Taintedwisp | I mean I could create a rigged one... |
| 20:17.26 | Taintedwisp | Nooo not an aura |
| 20:17.59 | Twodie | this one? idk if it have big use for me now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybiHIUWPZnc&feature=my_watch_later_videos&list=WL1A8927D37C3BCFDE |
| 20:18.46 | Zolden | yes, this one |
| 20:19.15 | Zolden | it will let you have simple mesh and some nice details in normal map |
| 20:19.16 | Zolden | but ok |
| 20:19.20 | Zolden | no hurry |
| 20:19.26 | Zolden | do what you think is good for you |
| 20:19.54 | Taintedwisp | Zolden Lemme explain again, I want an ability that auto fires that Sends damage and a buff in waves |
| 20:20.01 | Taintedwisp | I need it in waves so I can deal with the actors |
| 20:20.09 | Taintedwisp | otherwise it wont look right |
| 20:22.39 | Zolden | you need an autocast ability which will deal damage to the target, then buff the target and so on? |
| 20:23.16 | Taintedwisp | okay nvm i got it :P |
| 20:23.23 | Zolden | ok |
| 20:38.26 | Bounty | For the love of god |
| 20:38.34 | Bounty | can anyone here draw cartoony gnolls and trolls |
| 20:38.50 | Twodie | <.< |
| 20:39.16 | Bounty | I dont even need high qaulity it just has to look cartoonish with a splice of anime |
| 20:39.22 | Bounty | ill accept MS Paint quality |
| 20:40.09 | Taintedwisp | ill see what i can do after i get this ability :P |
| 20:42.17 | Bounty | this is the type of quality i need |
| 20:42.18 | Bounty | http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questdis/src/125648363765.png |
| 20:42.40 | Twodie | :O |
| 20:44.50 | Zolden | :)) |
| 20:46.02 | Zolden | guys, check my new model |
| 20:46.06 | Zolden | it rapes eyes |
| 20:46.11 | Zolden | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/33/119/flower_1.jpg |
| 20:46.17 | Zolden | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/33/120/flower_2.jpg |
| 20:46.23 | Zolden | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/33/121/flower_3.jpg |
| 20:46.26 | Zolden | it's a turret |
| 20:47.29 | Taintedwisp | Okay bounty |
| 20:47.31 | Taintedwisp | Making it n ow |
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| 20:56.32 | Twodie | To Zolden: Boner! |
| 20:57.16 | Zolden | :)) |
| 20:58.11 | Twodie | can you send a picture of wireframe of model?! |
| 20:59.18 | Zolden | ok |
| 20:59.22 | Zolden | in a sew minutes |
| 20:59.25 | Zolden | eating atm |
| 21:00.49 | Taintedwisp | Bounty.. I typed Troll into google images, and instant picture, i type gnoll... and 50% gnoll porn... |
| 21:01.00 | Bounty | yeah... |
| 21:01.01 | Bounty | its pretty bad |
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| 21:02.43 | Gwypaas | Hey! |
| 21:05.19 | Twodie | hey you too! |
| 21:05.39 | *** part/#sc2mapster Ahli (~casdasdqq@dslb-092-073-202-021.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 21:13.33 | Zolden | Twodie: the wireframe |
| 21:13.34 | Zolden | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/33/123/flower_wireframe.jpg |
| 21:14.38 | Twodie | cool my all custom models in the game dont have such polygon count |
| 21:15.04 | Bounty | how comes the art Taintedwisp lol |
| 21:16.26 | Taintedwisp | It looks horrible... |
| 21:16.31 | Taintedwisp | LOL |
| 21:17.05 | Zolden | yeah, it's the huge one |
| 21:17.15 | Zolden | other models are below 1000 |
| 21:17.17 | Taintedwisp | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93971126/cartoon-troll-8%20%281%29.gif |
| 21:17.26 | Zolden | :)) |
| 21:17.27 | Taintedwisp | I found that picture on the internet |
| 21:17.29 | Zolden | nice Taintedwisp |
| 21:17.45 | Twodie | still nice :D |
| 21:18.14 | Zolden | oh |
| 21:18.28 | Zolden | not nice then, there are better in internet |
| 21:22.34 | Bounty | Hows this? |
| 21:22.35 | Bounty | http://i45.tinypic.com/ngvabs.jpg |
| 21:22.55 | Bounty | Look like a happy gnoll? |
| 21:24.15 | Zolden | Bounty: is it like a gnoll look like? |
| 21:24.31 | Zolden | happy or crying gnoll |
| 21:24.33 | Bounty | what? |
| 21:24.43 | Zolden | or talking gonll |
| 21:24.48 | Twodie | his mounth not really looks happy |
| 21:24.52 | Bounty | i just said its supposed to be a happy gnoll |
| 21:24.53 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:25.03 | Taintedwisp | he looks like he wants some penis... |
| 21:25.07 | Twodie | *moth |
| 21:25.10 | Taintedwisp | sooo imma go with gay gnoll |
| 21:25.14 | Twodie | *mpouthqafs,; |
| 21:25.15 | Twodie | asdkaslddjaskn |
| 21:25.37 | Twodie | Some one is horny :/ |
| 21:26.48 | Taintedwisp | i just call it like I see it |
| 21:30.33 | Taintedwisp | Well imma go back to mappin |
| 21:32.02 | Zolden | fat chick: well imma go back to maffin |
| 21:34.03 | Taintedwisp | thats Mufffin |
| 21:34.06 | Taintedwisp | get it right |
| 21:34.12 | Zolden | oh, ty |
| 21:34.32 | Taintedwisp | fat bitches use BOTH terms :P |
| 21:35.03 | Vindicator | http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=jfEdCbbQAgM&feature=endscreen |
| 21:38.04 | Bounty | fuck it man |
| 21:38.10 | Bounty | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:38.20 | Bounty | cant find a single person who can do this basic art lol |
| 21:38.56 | Zolden | think art means so much? |
| 21:39.01 | Bounty | um yeah |
| 21:39.04 | Bounty | i need an arcade image |
| 21:39.29 | Vindicator | which game needs an image |
| 21:39.42 | Bounty | my new map, Gnolls VS Trolls |
| 21:39.48 | Bounty | Can you do artwork? |
| 21:39.57 | Vindicator | i have artists |
| 21:40.14 | Bounty | Any of them able to do cartoon style with a little bit of anime |
| 21:40.18 | Bounty | basic |
| 21:40.20 | Taintedwisp | i got hoes.... i just be like... Biiiitcchhh, do my art homework |
| 21:40.21 | Bounty | nothing advanced |
| 21:40.29 | Zolden | http://freakytrigger.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2004/10/gnoll.jpg |
| 21:40.43 | Vindicator | if your game is hosted on udmod.com the dude who runs the site will do a logo for you, so i'm sure he wouldn't mind doing the arcade image either |
| 21:40.57 | Vindicator | his name is Cloudwolf - just pm him |
| 21:41.30 | Bounty | i dont need a logo |
| 21:41.33 | Bounty | i need actual artwork |
| 21:41.38 | Bounty | drawing |
| 21:41.38 | Vindicator | right, just ask him |
| 21:41.42 | Vindicator | he's really good |
| 21:41.55 | Bounty | Can he do cartoons? |
| 21:42.08 | Zolden | http://oos.agava.ru/graph/gnoll.jpg |
| 21:42.18 | Vindicator | i doubt cartoons are any harder than what i've seen him do |
| 21:42.29 | Vindicator | but i dunno what he can and can't do specifically |
| 21:42.46 | Bounty | his name on mapster is cloudwolf? |
| 21:42.59 | Vindicator | he might be on mapster, but pm him on udmod.com |
| 21:43.01 | Vindicator | that's his site |
| 21:43.12 | Vindicator | so he checks it more often i would assume |
| 21:43.25 | Bounty | but he has no idea who the fuck i am |
| 21:43.34 | Bounty | how can i just PM some random guy asking him to do artwork |
| 21:43.34 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:44.01 | Vindicator | he does it as a favor for people who have forums for their games on udmod |
| 21:44.11 | Bounty | um |
| 21:44.16 | Bounty | i dont have a forum on their site |
| 21:44.21 | Bounty | so thats a no go |
| 21:44.23 | Bounty | >.< |
| 21:44.41 | Vindicator | you don't understand |
| 21:44.46 | Sixen | Cloudwolf runs UDMod. |
| 21:45.02 | Bounty | can you draw at all sixen? |
| 21:45.04 | Bounty | like MS paint |
| 21:45.41 | Vindicator | "Cloudwolf, I'd like to have my forum on udmod and Vindicator told me you could likely make me an arcade image for my game as well if i have my forums here." boom, done |
| 21:46.00 | Bounty | i need like 5 images though, would he do those |
| 21:46.04 | Bounty | also Sixen, yes or no? :) |
| 21:46.06 | Vindicator | that's up to him |
| 21:47.12 | Bounty | I dont want my game hosted on his site though so... |
| 21:47.34 | Vindicator | kk |
| 21:48.08 | Bounty | i love how Sixen just appears and vanishes in the blink of an eye |
| 21:51.05 | Twodie | finally finished texturing |
| 21:51.07 | Sixen | no I can't draw |
| 21:51.20 | Twodie | before http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/workshopg.png/ and after http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/545/workshoptextured.png/ |
| 21:52.43 | Vindicator | nice |
| 21:52.59 | Vindicator | just doing that for fun twodie or if not what game is it for? |
| 21:53.22 | Twodie | Age of Knights on EU server |
| 21:53.49 | Twodie | some old stuff here http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/aok/ |
| 21:55.02 | Zolden | Twodie: oh yeah |
| 21:55.05 | Zolden | it's cool |
| 21:55.27 | Zolden | does it have normal map? |
| 21:56.05 | Twodie | now going to make it |
| 21:57.35 | Twodie | where is in ps freaking history of doing stuff!?!?!?!? |
| 21:58.18 | Twodie | found it TT |
| 22:00.58 | Zolden | if you need to make some redo's, use alt ctrl z |
| 22:01.07 | Zolden | *undo's |
| 22:03.02 | Twodie | yeah................it takes for ever to press such combination of buttons |
| 22:04.09 | Twodie | and here is the same Building by who now will be replaced http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/craponastick.png/ |
| 22:11.17 | Twodie | and here is ingame image of some custom buildings |
| 22:11.18 | Twodie | http://imageshack.us/f/443/ingameo.png/ |
| 22:35.21 | Twodie | bb |
| 22:48.22 | Dustin | ugh im so full |
| 22:49.04 | Zolden | :)) |
| 22:49.19 | Zolden | did any code? |
| 22:50.43 | Dustin | yeah worked on my C# game a bit |
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| 23:03.41 | zelda|AFK | Battle net world championships starting in 2.5 hours |
| 23:05.11 | Zolden | who willl play first? |
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| 23:12.15 | ckSynergy | wow. just wow |
| 23:12.38 | ckSynergy | So Im advertising my mod which is a fixed version of an abandoned map. The response I get? "It's unpopular, leave it alone" |
| 23:12.56 | ckSynergy | Seriously, blizz needs to get off their ass about the popularity system |
| 23:13.00 | Gwypaas | Yep |
| 23:13.33 | Gwypaas | I think why Blizz is really holding back though is all the virus and hacked map business in WC3.... |
| 23:13.41 | Gwypaas | It caused people some grief |
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| 23:15.19 | ckSynergy | its very simple. they need to delete abandoned maps and reset the popularity system every 2 fdays |
| 23:15.22 | ckSynergy | that simple |
| 23:15.55 | Gwypaas | Why delete abandoned maps? Content should never be deleted, just pushed into non-existance to maybe be found again some day |
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| 23:22.25 | Bounty | So, any artists here? :) |
| 23:22.33 | Bounty | That can do cartoon styles |
| 23:31.37 | ckSynergy | nope |
| 23:31.42 | ckSynergy | I do realism lol |
| 23:35.43 | Bounty | Cksynergy |
| 23:35.47 | Bounty | So you are an artist though right? |
| 23:36.28 | Bounty | you couldnt draw something like this ? http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2009/08/fatprincesspirate.png |
| 23:37.44 | ckSynergy | sec |
| 23:37.59 | ckSynergy | uhhh well, I could lol |
| 23:38.06 | ckSynergy | but I did that once before for a guy and got stiffed |
| 23:38.59 | ckSynergy | I havent drawn anything in a long while too lol |
| 23:39.12 | Bounty | what do you mean got stiffed? |
| 23:39.30 | Bounty | i dont need nething hardcore, its pretty basic |
| 23:43.10 | Bounty | you there ckSynergy? |
| 23:53.36 | ckSynergy | sure? |
| 23:53.43 | ckSynergy | sorry, got a lot going on lol |
| 23:53.59 | ckSynergy | and I mean he hired me, and he didnt pay when the job was done |
| 23:54.20 | ckSynergy | I showed him the (digital) art, he said "not what I want, cya. I was like, thats not how it works. |
| 23:58.01 | Bounty | oh |
| 23:58.32 | Bounty | well i wouldnt be able to pay you anything but you could put a signature at the bottom corner saying "Artworker by" etc |
| 23:58.57 | Bounty | But like i said what i need should be no problem |
