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| 00:15.51 | Bounty | Taintedwisp |
| 00:16.14 | Bounty | What if instead of a princess you have to rescue a little kid to eat |
| 00:16.16 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:16.22 | Bounty | Since is Gnolls VS Trolls |
| 00:23.35 | Bounty | Yeah i think im gonna do that, Gnolls have to rescue a orc child because they prefer orc meat and trolls have to rescue a human child because they prefer human meat :) |
| 00:25.24 | zlefin | anyone know how fallen enchantress is? |
| 00:30.12 | Repo | New announcement: Global Play Coming to StarCraft - http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/global-play-coming-to-star-craft/ |
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| 00:32.36 | Shawn|Rawr | sup homies |
| 00:35.27 | Ahli | hmm, what's the point of the global play blog article? |
| 00:40.48 | Blizz-Deletarius | I'm kind-of sad now that KR won't be this exclusive server anymore :P |
| 00:42.02 | Ahli | I'm happy that I can play with my project team without using one of their accounts... in a few months... |
| 00:42.15 | Blizz-Deletarius | soon™ |
| 00:43.02 | Saeris | wish word would come about the startools beta, last time anything was said about it was in august i think |
| 00:43.34 | Saeris | shoulda used soon™ instead of saying moe info in a few weeks |
| 00:44.35 | Ahli | last time I read something about it, it appeared as a feature in my mail for 1.5 beta |
| 00:45.36 | Ahli | soo, time to update the map on EU |
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| 01:18.32 | Shawn|Rawr | hey Deletarius, would you guys also be doing tutorial requests? |
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| 01:46.41 | Dustin | Global Play Coming to StarCraft |
| 01:46.44 | Dustin | omggg |
| 01:48.14 | DeadZergling | no longer bound to regions? |
| 01:48.58 | Exaken | More like, you don't have to buy the game multiple times for access to other regions |
| 01:50.36 | Shawn|Rawr | Now the Koreans get to stop everybody |
| 01:50.41 | Shawn|Rawr | stomp* |
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| 01:51.07 | TouYaj | Hi guys |
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| 01:53.08 | Bounty | Blizz-Deletarius |
| 01:53.15 | Bounty | I require your knowledge |
| 01:53.52 | TouYaj | Hey boutny |
| 01:53.54 | TouYaj | bounty |
| 01:54.01 | TouYaj | Its D3b from youtube |
| 01:54.15 | Blizz-Deletarius | hi |
| 01:54.19 | Blizz-Deletarius | yes? |
| 01:54.38 | Bounty | If i have a dialog that is a width of 416 and i have something on each end of that dialog that i want to move to the other side based on the distance from a unit and a point and the distance is 52 how would i get that to update correctly |
| 01:54.44 | Bounty | Hello TouYaj |
| 01:54.51 | Blizz-Deletarius | wait...what? |
| 01:55.17 | Bounty | The Distance from the Unit to the desired point is 52 represented in the Dialog is |
| 01:55.26 | Bounty | err |
| 01:55.32 | Bounty | how do i explain this |
| 01:55.36 | Blizz-Deletarius | non-yoda speak please |
| 01:55.39 | Bounty | I have a line |
| 01:55.42 | Bounty | as a dialog ok? |
| 01:55.47 | Blizz-Deletarius | ok |
| 01:55.58 | Bounty | and on both sides are an image that represents the objective your team must bring back to your base |
| 01:56.03 | Blizz-Deletarius | ok |
| 01:56.11 | Bounty | and i want it to update correctly based on the distance |
| 01:56.21 | Bounty | so when it reaches its destination it is on the other side |
| 01:56.38 | Blizz-Deletarius | I'd do a periodic check to see how far the unit is from the objective and scale it based on that |
| 01:56.43 | Bounty | i know how to do it but i just dont know the equation |
| 01:56.51 | Bounty | yeah |
| 01:56.55 | Bounty | i just dont know how to scale it lol |
| 01:57.07 | Bounty | the dialog line length is 416 |
| 01:57.09 | Blizz-Deletarius | give it a variable |
| 01:57.14 | Bounty | the distance from the start is 52 |
| 01:57.21 | Bounty | like on the field |
| 01:57.24 | Blizz-Deletarius | if it's 416 then 1% is 4.16 |
| 01:57.27 | Blizz-Deletarius | scale it by that |
| 01:57.30 | Blizz-Deletarius | anyway, I gotta go afk |
| 01:58.15 | A1win | remember to take the icon width into account unless the icon is centered on the point of the line it's at |
| 01:58.34 | Bounty | what about negatives though Blizz-Deletarius lol |
| 01:58.43 | A1win | distances can't be negative |
| 01:58.52 | Bounty | One side starts off ofset by 208 the other starts at -208 |
| 01:59.00 | Bounty | yeah but im talking about the dialog offset |
| 01:59.13 | A1win | isn't that basic math D: |
| 01:59.37 | TouYaj | bounty so do u wanna make a site? |
| 01:59.59 | Bounty | I still have to think about it TouYaj, plus i working on a project atm >.< |
| 02:00.07 | TouYaj | same =D |
| 02:00.19 | Bounty | Halp meh A1win |
| 02:00.22 | Bounty | i am not good at this stuff |
| 02:00.24 | A1win | <.< |
| 02:00.39 | TouYaj | Im making a competitive map where I will be hosting tournaments and giving away prizes such as money, gameing mouses, keyboards, and games |
| 02:00.53 | Bounty | what equation would i use |
| 02:01.01 | Bounty | nice >.< |
| 02:01.03 | A1win | math is precise, I can't give you exact formulas/algorithms without seeing what exactly it is... and it's 4am for me :I |
| 02:01.09 | Bounty | I'm remaking Fat Princess in SC2 lol |
| 02:01.16 | TouYaj | nice! |
| 02:01.21 | Bounty | A1win |
| 02:01.22 | TouYaj | bounty we really needa work together lol |
| 02:01.28 | Bounty | the dialog width is 416 |
| 02:01.49 | Bounty | and the offsets are 208 and -208 |
| 02:01.50 | A1win | just use top left anchor and everything is positive inside the dialog |
| 02:01.56 | Bounty | the initial ones so they start on opposite sides |
| 02:02.02 | Bounty | and the total distance is 52 on the field |
| 02:02.20 | Bounty | yeah but then it doesnt scale with full screen/windowed |
| 02:02.58 | A1win | it should |
| 02:03.12 | Bounty | it wont lol |
| 02:03.16 | Bounty | thats how i did my initial health bar |
| 02:03.34 | Bounty | top left anchor and i got it to the center |
| 02:03.45 | A1win | the only scaling problems I've ever had is related to offsets and to text sizes, everything else seems to scale properly |
| 02:03.46 | Bounty | but that was in windowed mode, when u swap to FS it breaks and moves to the left more |
| 02:04.08 | A1win | that's a dialog anchor problem |
| 02:04.15 | A1win | inside the dialog it should be fine |
| 02:04.22 | A1win | the dialog size scales properly |
| 02:06.59 | Bounty | would this work |
| 02:07.33 | Bounty | When the distance <= 22 then the distance variable is set to distance - distance x distance |
| 02:07.39 | Bounty | that would return it as a negative integer |
| 02:08.03 | A1win | I wouldn't make it so complicated |
| 02:09.05 | Bounty | would it work though? |
| 02:09.12 | Bounty | and i meant Distance x 2 |
| 02:09.23 | A1win | I don't know <.< that's just one piece of your thing |
| 02:09.49 | A1win | I still don't know what you're even doing other than the basic idea |
| 02:10.23 | A1win | if you need detailed help, you need to provide detailed info... screenshots etc would help |
| 02:10.27 | Bounty | im trying to represent the distance from the "flag" to the "capture point" via a dialog |
| 02:10.33 | A1win | I know that |
| 02:10.48 | Ahli | translate the distance to a percentage of the max distance |
| 02:10.50 | A1win | that's the basic idea of what you're trying to achieve |
| 02:11.10 | A1win | but there are many ways of doing it |
| 02:11.40 | Bounty | sec let me get a SS |
| 02:11.47 | A1win | you're doing it one way, but you're not explaining it in enough detail |
| 02:16.16 | Bounty | http://i47.tinypic.com/xm5ueu.jpg |
| 02:16.25 | Bounty | There ya go A1win and Ahli |
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| 02:18.03 | A1win | yeah, you should make that dialog of width x, anchor it to center, and have the left icon anchored to Left and the right icon anchored to Right |
| 02:18.12 | A1win | then both start at 0 x |
| 02:18.29 | A1win | and the width of the dialog is their max x |
| 02:19.15 | A1win | so when you increase x for the left icon, it moves right, and when you increase x for the right icon, it moves left |
| 02:19.40 | Bounty | how do i increase if the distance gets lower though |
| 02:19.46 | Bounty | nvm |
| 02:19.47 | A1win | hmm? |
| 02:19.50 | Bounty | thats a stupid question |
| 02:19.51 | A1win | :P |
| 02:21.25 | A1win | that's like someone making d(-.-)b and you asking how did he make the reverse b |
| 02:21.50 | Ahli | I'm still asking myself where he had problems |
| 02:21.50 | Bounty | um |
| 02:21.55 | Bounty | i actually dont know how you did that |
| 02:22.01 | A1win | ;p |
| 02:22.55 | Ahli | I want global play naow |
| 02:23.55 | Ahli | what icon can I use when a player leaves? |
| 02:24.12 | A1win | icon for what? |
| 02:24.24 | Ahli | I've a kill display thing... mom I get a screenshot from my imageshack |
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| 02:25.25 | Ahli | http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/3268/screenshot2012102218594.jpg top left corner |
| 02:25.41 | Ahli | it's half fading out in that pic, so not that good to see |
| 02:25.54 | Shawn|Rawr | Player leave icon is QQ |
| 02:26.12 | Ahli | I'm displaying killer victim and assists... |
| 02:26.18 | Ahli | actually that is a brilliant idea ;D |
| 02:26.42 | Ahli | I want something that displays when a player is eliminated because he left the game |
| 02:27.13 | Shawn|Rawr | You can copy HoN |
| 02:27.32 | Shawn|Rawr | They have a white ethernet cord icon |
| 02:27.48 | Shawn|Rawr | of course in hon you can reconnect, so it might be different |
| 02:28.22 | Ahli | we can't reconnect to games :S |
| 02:28.26 | Ahli | in bnet |
| 02:31.00 | A1win | that same icon you have now except with x instead of the figure |
| 02:31.13 | A1win | I mean torso |
| 02:34.43 | Saeris | interesting |
| 02:35.41 | Saeris | BAllStars/SC2 is looking for lead game designers |
| 02:39.40 | A1win | what's the most important feature of dota? like is there any one thing that makes the gameplay, or is it more than just one thing |
| 02:39.52 | A1win | (I haven't played any dota games) |
| 02:39.59 | soulcarver2 | How do you track an assist. |
| 02:40.24 | Saeris | could be a few ways |
| 02:41.30 | Saeris | when player deals dmg to unit/hero, add them to a player group, after X seconds remove player from player group. on unit death award players in that player group with an assist, unless they were killing player |
| 02:42.24 | Saeris | could also periodically check distance from target as well, i guess, if you want to require the person getting an assist to be nearby at time of death |
| 02:44.05 | Saeris | and as for most important feature? hard to say |
| 02:44.34 | A1win | are the AI controlled units in a huge role in it or are they just extra? |
| 02:45.08 | Saeris | i'd say the dynamics of the game's systems promote a certain level of teamwork that I would cite as the main feature of a DotA game |
| 02:45.48 | A1win | well I'd imagine something like that being a thing that makes the game good, but that's not the actual gameplay of it |
| 02:46.01 | Saeris | they serve a lot of important functions |
| 02:46.23 | Ahli | timer, soulcarver2 |
| 02:46.39 | Ahli | my assists are displayed in chronological order, too |
| 02:47.10 | A1win | I'm just designing a map that also has AI team vs AI team, so I'm trying to get a better idea of dota so that it doesn't end up too similar, and if I could learn something from it / avoid any problems it has |
| 02:47.11 | Saeris | such as a source of gold/experience, a dynamic obsticle players need to be aware of, helps drive gameplay periodically by forcing players to react to different areas of the map, despite there not being a player presence there |
| 02:47.20 | soulcarver2 | Can your assists track on multiple targets at the same time? |
| 02:47.29 | Saeris | probably a lot more than that but that's just what i've got off the top of my head |
| 02:47.34 | Saeris | yea |
| 02:48.00 | A1win | yeah sounds about what I had imagined |
| 02:48.02 | Saeris | create a player group array, with the size being the number of players |
| 02:48.25 | A1win | do the AI controlled units actually do anything than just run & attack? |
| 02:48.32 | Saeris | that way you can track who's attacking each player's hero |
| 02:48.38 | Ahli | dota games are the type of games where you hide between allied units that fight enemy units. In the meantime, you try to kill the enemy units, damage enemy heroes and kill your own units... |
| 02:49.06 | Saeris | not really, they defend allied players when they get targeted by enemy players |
| 02:49.08 | A1win | mm... the actual gameplay will be very different in my map, just wondering about those AI units |
| 02:49.26 | A1win | my map doesn't have heroes, for one :P |
| 02:49.37 | A1win | well, not in the traditional sense anyway |
| 02:49.53 | Ahli | My assist tracking has a timer for every player that damaged the hero unit of the player. |
| 02:50.13 | Ahli | if player A damages player B's hero, the timer is started |
| 02:50.38 | Ahli | I use data and validators to filter the hundreds of non-assist timer starting damage effects |
| 02:51.06 | Ahli | so every damage effect needs to execute a set on the units, too. This way I can make even non damaging spells trigger assists |
| 02:52.11 | Ahli | pretty simple actually |
| 02:52.21 | A1win | oh well I think I'm quite safe with my design, seems to be original in many aspects |
| 02:52.50 | A1win | that the similarities won't have a negative impact |
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| 02:58.17 | A1win | I think the hardest part making this map will be coming up with a name, as usual :| |
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| 02:58.49 | Ahli | now egod is looking for a replacement for oujay |
| 02:59.00 | Ahli | toujay tojay... whateverjay |
| 02:59.15 | Bounty | huh? |
| 02:59.30 | Ahli | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/team-recruitment/45046-diablo-the-curse-of-tristram-rpg-looking-for-a-website/#p1 |
| 02:59.36 | Bounty | explain please |
| 02:59.37 | Ahli | ur dude made that before |
| 03:00.06 | Bounty | im confused as to what you mean about toujay |
| 03:00.16 | Bounty | how is egod lookign to replace him? they work together/ |
| 03:00.29 | Ahli | they made a kickstarter and failed or something |
| 03:00.36 | Bounty | ah lol |
| 03:00.45 | Bounty | i was hoping egod would be successful with his kickstarter |
| 03:00.47 | Bounty | oh well |
| 03:02.28 | Saeris | hmmm, someone wants to remake ulduar in SC2 |
| 03:02.42 | Saeris | that won't work out |
| 03:02.46 | A1win | :x |
| 03:03.01 | Ahli | toujay made the kickstarter for him... he told here that he stopped it because egod lacked motivation and another diablo map was more popular, so he refunded the money. (I actually didn't see kickstarter showing a $ amount funded at any time, but I don't know how that works there...). He also made his forum (which actually looks damn good). |
| 03:03.45 | Saeris | mostly cuz blizz will probably shut it down for making available content you could only otherwise enjoy by playing WoW.... i think it'd go the same way as that hots unit test map |
| 03:03.46 | Ahli | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2xgaming/tristram-rpg |
| 03:03.56 | Dustin | bounty |
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| 03:04.01 | Dustin | lets play fat princess |
| 03:04.09 | Bounty | im abit dustin |
| 03:04.14 | Bounty | im working on it + i have my son atm |
| 03:04.17 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:04.26 | Dustin | hehe k |
| 03:04.34 | tordy | what is fat princess |
| 03:04.51 | Dustin | he remade the game fat princess |
| 03:04.59 | Dustin | which was a ps3 game |
| 03:05.05 | tordy | it takes me 2500ms to ping google |
| 03:05.05 | Dustin | team battle game |
| 03:05.12 | Dustin | that sucks |
| 03:05.24 | tordy | not famiiliar with it |
| 03:05.38 | Dustin | that sucks28ms |
| 03:05.47 | Dustin | oops |
| 03:05.54 | Dustin | Damn up key |
| 03:06.14 | Ahli | that's a high ping, tordy, 33ms |
| 03:06.20 | tordy | now im getting timeouts |
| 03:06.38 | tordy | irc is literally the only thing i can do right now |
| 03:06.56 | tordy | XD i heard the beep sound 5 seconds after too |
| 03:07.13 | tordy | this is worse than 28k |
| 03:07.34 | tordy | im downloading webpages at less than 1KB/s |
| 03:08.06 | tordy | hey blizz is here |
| 03:08.15 | tordy | or are they |
| 03:08.43 | tordy | that's what happens when you're using 4g internet |
| 03:08.50 | tordy | with 2 other people watching videos |
| 03:09.23 | Ahli | I don't think dele is here anymore |
| 03:09.39 | Ahli | unless he creeps nearly 12 hours at office |
| 03:10.04 | Saeris | said he was afk, prolly left for the day and left his comp on |
| 03:10.26 | tordy | :[ |
| 03:10.28 | Ahli | was afk to go home :D |
| 03:10.43 | tordy | i wanted to say happy friday |
| 03:11.04 | Saeris | gotta be on earlier for that, lol |
| 03:11.09 | Ahli | I wish that he returns with a "back" on monday morning |
| 03:11.25 | Ahli | ~seen Blizz-Deletarius |
| 03:11.28 | purl | blizz-deletarius is currently on #sc2mapster (4h 22m 35s). Has said a total of 26 messages. Is idling for 1h 13m 58s, last said: 'anyway, I gotta go afk'. |
| 03:12.29 | tordy | how do you know he isn't just taking a long restroom break? |
| 03:12.51 | tordy | you know how hard it is when you're constipated |
| 03:12.56 | tordy | you could spend hours in there |
| 03:13.51 | Ahli | I don't think they are in office for 12 hours unless they have huge time problems or work on the bnet server which has close to collapsing |
| 03:14.00 | Ahli | *is |
| 03:14.57 | tordy | what if bnet collapses after they all went to go home? |
| 03:15.06 | tordy | can they work remotely from home? |
| 03:15.16 | tordy | or do they have to drive back |
| 03:15.32 | tordy | the relevant personnel |
| 03:16.06 | Ahli | since the servers can be seen as a big portion of their income, I guess they always have a few persons available for emergency... |
| 03:16.40 | tordy | what if those few are knocked out |
| 03:17.31 | Ahli | bobby kotick needs to throw some wow dollars around to let it be fixed |
| 03:17.58 | Ahli | or to fix the people that can fix it |
| 03:18.07 | Saeris | from what i've heard, battlenet has people there 24/7 and some people on call for emergencies. devs typically can't work from home, poses too much of a security risk + legal issues if work hours aren't properly being tracked. i suspect only the really high up devs like browder might be allowed to bring work home |
| 03:18.24 | tordy | Ahli can you do me a favor? when you see me say something respond asap so i can see how delayed my messages are |
| 03:18.31 | Ahli | k |
| 03:18.36 | tordy | ready? |
| 03:18.37 | tordy | go |
| 03:18.37 | Ahli | k |
| 03:18.38 | Ahli | k |
| 03:18.43 | Ahli | again |
| 03:18.49 | tordy | dam that was a 10s delay? |
| 03:18.50 | Ahli | k |
| 03:18.53 | Saeris | also kotick has 0 control over blizzard's operations, haha |
| 03:19.03 | tordy | huh 2 seconds that time |
| 03:19.09 | tordy | alright 1 second that time |
| 03:19.10 | Ahli | I don't know who has control |
| 03:19.14 | tordy | not so bad |
| 03:19.30 | Ahli | whoever is CEO :D |
| 03:19.38 | Ahli | mike morhaime? |
| 03:19.42 | tordy | the board of directors aka the anti-christ has control |
| 03:19.53 | tordy | CEO is Mike morhaime |
| 03:20.28 | Saeris | spoke with morhaime once. about the only involvement activision has in the company is that they share a payroll department |
| 03:20.49 | Ahli | how far is their involvement? |
| 03:20.58 | Saeris | just told you |
| 03:21.19 | Ahli | ok, I need to learn what a payroll department means |
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| 03:21.58 | Saeris | accounting, the people who write the paychecks and mail them out to employees |
| 03:22.19 | Ahli | k |
| 03:23.47 | tordy | i hope the hardware department sells wd40 |
| 03:24.21 | Dustin | Dont get me started on accountants |
| 03:24.33 | Dustin | I do technical support for a timeclock company |
| 03:24.46 | tordy | what's wrong with accountants? |
| 03:24.51 | Dustin | And all the management is on a webserver with a gui |
| 03:25.15 | Ahli | accounting is the most boring course I had so far... |
| 03:25.18 | Dustin | We make it so simple to do to their jobs but they always want to do it some wack ass way |
| 03:25.26 | tordy | timeclock? |
| 03:25.43 | Dustin | For work places |
| 03:25.45 | tordy | is that a codeword for blizzard> |
| 03:26.02 | Dustin | I wish |
| 03:26.26 | Saeris | besides, from what i know about development, those in senior positions hire people to make decisions for them, and their role becomes more management than anything else |
| 03:29.05 | Saeris | they get so busy trying to keep things moving forward that they don't have time to make decisions themselves anymore. so, get someone you trust to make a good decision about a subject and put him in charge of it |
| 03:29.33 | Saeris | which, i'm guessing his how the relationship between morhaime, rob pardo, and dustin browder works |
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| 03:30.59 | tordy | who's in charge of WoW? |
| 03:31.11 | Ahli | you base decisions on information... other people have the job to find and analyze information... the senior does the decision in the end... |
| 03:31.49 | Saeris | used to be that jeff kaplan was the game director on WoW |
| 03:31.54 | Saeris | think it's tom chilton now |
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| 03:36.00 | Saeris | truth is though, even the most senior people can't be experts in every field, though I'd expect they need to have at least some understanding of it |
| 03:37.54 | Ahli | one does not realize how much work some high positions actually require... they have decisions, they need to go here and there for business contacts and are invited all the time to hold speeches, etc... The highest prof at my economic informatics institute runs a company and that guy is always working 24/7... |
| 03:38.23 | Saeris | yea, such is the definition of having a Career |
| 03:38.35 | Saeris | you're never really off of work |
| 03:38.51 | Ahli | ya |
| 03:39.15 | Ahli | but you get a lot of money that |
| 03:40.09 | Saeris | yep, and that's always why salaries exist |
| 03:40.13 | Ahli | ^^ |
| 03:40.20 | Saeris | becomes too difficult to keep track of hours worked |
| 03:40.51 | Saeris | and bonuses make up for working overtime =P though you only get them for doing a good job |
| 03:41.45 | Saeris | brb |
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| 03:51.05 | Saeris | back |
| 03:54.51 | Ahli | wb |
| 03:56.05 | Saeris | yawn |
| 03:56.57 | Saeris | bleh, why did i have to get up early to go to the doctor? >.< exhausted now cuz i woke up before 11am >.> |
| 04:04.09 | Ahli | how long need washed clothes need to dry in a room that has 17 degree celsius? |
| 04:06.26 | zlefin | that would depend heavily on the humidity |
| 04:07.47 | zlefin | i'd guess several hours in general, but i'm not that up on laundering knowledge |
| 04:12.44 | Bounty | Down for a test Dustin? |
| 04:16.36 | Dustin | bounty |
| 04:16.37 | Dustin | I am |
| 04:16.45 | Dustin | Let me finish making these donuts |
| 04:16.50 | Dustin | 5 min |
| 04:17.00 | Bounty | kk |
| 04:24.26 | Dustin | rdy bounty |
| 04:24.45 | Bounty | message me |
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| 04:34.21 | RiFT | is anyone experiencing cone shaped splash damage behaving really inconsistently? |
| 04:36.59 | tordy | in what way |
| 04:37.04 | Dustin | Lol thats fun |
| 04:40.27 | RiFT | sometimes it will be centered at the angle away from the caster, sometimes it will be centered on the bottom of the map, and sometimes it won't go off at all |
| 04:43.54 | Ahli | the impact location needs to be a unit I think |
| 04:44.02 | Ahli | for arcs |
| 04:44.10 | Ahli | points have no arc info |
| 04:44.21 | Ahli | they always point downwards |
| 04:44.33 | Ahli | or upwards |
| 04:44.36 | Ahli | dunno :D |
| 04:44.41 | RiFT | hmm ok |
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| 04:55.46 | Bounty | im stumped Dustin |
| 04:55.49 | Bounty | i cannot figure out that bug |
| 04:55.53 | Bounty | it makes no sense |
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| 05:26.59 | tordy | omg global play, does that mean we can freely publish to the other regions? |
| 05:33.34 | Ahli | hope so |
| 05:34.30 | Bounty | Dustin |
| 05:34.36 | Bounty | What did you think of the game so far |
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| 05:37.02 | Cheekio | good to be back |
| 05:37.08 | Cheekio | how are everyone's projects going? |
| 05:37.47 | DeadZergling | much slower than I ever imagined |
| 05:38.18 | Cheekio | I think I have a pretty good handle on the changes I wanted to implement |
| 05:38.37 | Cheekio | The next step is to coop that unit tester map |
| 05:39.14 | Cheekio | What are you working on? |
| 05:40.12 | DeadZergling | RPG project |
| 05:44.08 | Cheekio | Not a lot of good RPG projects are out there yet |
| 05:44.24 | DeadZergling | yea, is a reason for that |
| 05:44.27 | Cheekio | Probably my favorite UMS map in BW was an RPG |
| 05:44.29 | DeadZergling | they take forever and a half, lol |
| 05:44.38 | DeadZergling | ah, which one? |
| 05:44.52 | Cheekio | You'd kill yourself and as a 'ghost' turn into a Dark Templar |
| 05:45.09 | DeadZergling | elements? |
| 05:45.09 | Cheekio | then when you levelled up to level 2 (without respawning) you'd get the secret ghost class of units |
| 05:45.15 | Cheekio | I think that was it, yeah |
| 05:45.26 | DeadZergling | yea, that was how you chose spirit |
| 05:45.31 | DeadZergling | in the original |
| 05:45.40 | Cheekio | That pretty much blew my mind |
| 05:46.01 | DeadZergling | funny you mention that map |
| 05:46.05 | DeadZergling | I made elements 6, lol |
| 05:47.11 | Cheekio | :D |
| 05:47.59 | DeadZergling | had the 5 usual elements + death |
| 05:50.17 | Cheekio | Pretty much the most fun way to waste an evening |
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| 06:48.01 | Triceron | http://starcraft2.judgehype.com/news/des-traces-de-warcraft-iii-dans-la-beta-de-starcraft-ii-hots/ :O |
| 06:49.08 | Triceron | dependencies for Warcraft 3 races O_O |
| 06:59.38 | Saeris | derp |
| 07:01.01 | Triceron | blerp |
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| 07:18.34 | Saeris | will be interesting to see if blizzard says anything about that. |
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| 09:53.21 | monkalizer | if you are making team played custom maps, have a look at this crude tutorial i just made... its very basic stuff but somehow it went under my radar: http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/45052-tutorial-blueprint-working-with-team-games/ |
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| 10:14.05 | monkalizer | G0A are you there |
| 10:19.34 | monkalizer | nvm problem solved :) |
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| 10:37.44 | monkalizer | morning zolden |
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| 10:40.34 | Zolden | hey |
| 10:41.39 | monkalizer | Sixen, are you around? |
| 10:42.19 | monkalizer | perhaps he is sleeping |
| 10:42.38 | Zolden | we all are on weekend |
| 10:43.29 | monkalizer | mhm, especially when the mapmaking was boosted with drugs & rock n' roll the previous night |
| 10:44.05 | Zolden | yea |
| 10:46.50 | monkalizer | argh, Im just helping everyone else, not working on my own project |
| 10:48.42 | Zolden | oh, it's procrastination |
| 10:49.13 | monkalizer | yeah :) |
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| 10:51.35 | Saeris | lol, it's 3am and i think he's in arizona, prolly asleep |
| 10:52.13 | Zolden | 3 pm here |
| 10:55.21 | monkalizer | I had this idea about how to make the wiki more useful (to me) |
| 10:56.09 | Zolden | to read it? |
| 10:56.12 | Zolden | is it your idea? |
| 10:56.25 | monkalizer | lol no |
| 10:56.54 | monkalizer | the structure of the wiki is based on components in the editor - like bankfiles, actors etc |
| 10:57.32 | monkalizer | I would like to have a department where you would have goals instead: like strategies on how to make a custom unit, placing a custom decal etc, |
| 10:58.03 | monkalizer | Just simplified outlines on the different strategies to reach a goal, using different methods |
| 10:58.24 | Zolden | we call it tutorials |
| 10:58.31 | monkalizer | Example: Placing a unit on the map |
| 10:58.52 | monkalizer | Well they can be hard to browse. The search function is not that powerful :) |
| 10:59.34 | monkalizer | Perhaps i'm missing an updated list of tutorials |
| 11:00.19 | Zolden | we also have the forum, full of answered questions |
| 11:00.56 | monkalizer | yes that is true as well, problem is the redundancy :) |
| 11:01.11 | Zolden | i think only 1% of goals or issues I tried to reach or faced, which weren't explained somewhere |
| 11:01.42 | Zolden | why don't you post on wiki subforum |
| 11:02.53 | monkalizer | aha! did not know there was one... |
| 11:06.08 | Zolden | I think, there were 3 |
| 11:06.15 | Zolden | but 2 were removed as redundant |
| 11:07.49 | monkalizer | now i posted something. lets see if someone reads it :) |
| 11:10.02 | monkalizer | ha! http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/11/usb-drive-made-out-silver-gold-and-meteorite/ so stupid. I dont know how many usb drives I have lost |
| 11:11.35 | monkalizer | http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/04/gadgets-for-the-elite-1-percent/?utm_source=Contextly&utm_medium=RelatedLinks&utm_campaign=Previous&pid=3121 equally stupid; a expensive toilet that opens when you approach it. Why is this a feature? |
| 11:12.18 | Zolden | some ppl save the ashes of their dead relatives, they could make usb drives out of those |
| 11:13.21 | monkalizer | hm that would probably help me remembering where I put it... "Where is grandma?!?" |
| 11:13.51 | monkalizer | "I'l upload it unto grandma" |
| 11:15.05 | monkalizer | you can extend this service: like making a hat out of your dead relatives/pets skin |
| 11:15.15 | monkalizer | you would probably never loose those gloves |
| 11:15.27 | monkalizer | now I should stop before I get banned |
| 11:15.47 | Zolden | oh, u're more than nice |
| 11:16.10 | Zolden | even tainted speaking of how he hates blacks is nice |
| 11:16.19 | monkalizer | aight |
| 11:16.34 | monkalizer | yep tainted has a lot of opinions |
| 11:19.27 | Zolden | though, sad we have no hitler model in sc2 |
| 11:19.28 | monkalizer | i'l just skip mapmaking and do some cleaning instead :) |
| 11:19.39 | monkalizer | lol |
| 11:19.48 | monkalizer | perhaps thats a job for you? |
| 11:28.27 | Leruster | there is even this service that you can change someone's ashes into a diamond ;) |
| 11:28.42 | Leruster | industrail diamond but diamond nonetheless :] |
| 11:28.43 | Zolden | Leruster: hey |
| 11:28.48 | Leruster | hey Zolden :) |
| 11:29.03 | Leruster | inudstrial* |
| 11:29.11 | Leruster | Zolden I tested the ribbons today |
| 11:29.15 | Leruster | and they are working as hell :) |
| 11:29.20 | Zolden | I thinkm we need to have multipl[e ppl to make a good diamond |
| 11:29.23 | Leruster | so I don't know what that was the other day :/ |
| 11:29.36 | Leruster | I don't know, how much ashes comes from one person? |
| 11:29.41 | Zolden | maybe it's just the importer |
| 11:29.42 | Leruster | that sound creepy :P |
| 11:29.46 | Leruster | maybe! |
| 11:30.29 | Zolden | i'll try to create something within the new version and use the exporter |
| 11:30.37 | Leruster | yeah |
| 11:30.54 | Leruster | I tell you, the corruptor is wiggling his tentacles like crazy :) |
| 11:32.09 | Zolden | so, are there chances you modify the importer so it would work on my system? |
| 11:32.31 | Leruster | I need to test it on 2010 |
| 11:32.51 | Leruster | I'll do it on monday, I don't have a 2010 at home, I will test it at work |
| 11:35.07 | Zolden | ok, now I just need to finish a turret and then will try the new files |
| 11:35.29 | Leruster | ok so don't bother the scripts now. I'll check if it's working for 2010 |
| 11:35.56 | Leruster | bother WITH* the :) |
| 11:36.29 | Zolden | why not, exporter may work |
| 11:36.36 | Leruster | well ok :) |
| 11:36.46 | Zolden | hope never ies |
| 11:37.14 | Leruster | I heard it dies as last :P |
| 11:37.20 | Leruster | but the NEVER version is better :D |
| 11:37.28 | Leruster | dies as* |
| 11:37.47 | Leruster | I got so much sleep today and still I write kind of messy :P |
| 11:38.34 | Zolden | same :) |
| 11:38.56 | Zolden | sleep is like hitler, it's never enough |
| 11:39.08 | Leruster | hahaha :D |
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| 11:44.01 | Leruster | hey monkalizer |
| 11:44.12 | Leruster | that self opening toilet is not that bad of an idea ;) |
| 11:44.32 | Leruster | Imagine you have an elder who can't reach the toilet with ease :) |
| 11:44.48 | Leruster | but $6400 is expensive ;) |
| 11:46.12 | monkalizer | yeah perhaps |
| 11:46.24 | monkalizer | or you could just remove the top lid :) |
| 11:46.42 | monkalizer | and hire an assistant |
| 11:46.42 | Leruster | releasing the cracken at the same time? :P |
| 11:47.12 | monkalizer | you could buy a shotgun |
| 11:47.31 | Leruster | hehe :) |
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| 12:13.30 | monkalizer | is it possible to do a test or getting info of weither the map is being played locally or through battle net`? |
| 12:13.46 | A1win | yeah |
| 12:13.54 | A1win | there's an "is test map" function |
| 12:14.14 | Ahli | player handle is "" |
| 12:14.19 | A1win | or that |
| 12:14.41 | A1win | except that |
| 12:14.52 | A1win | if you are logged in when you launch a map locally, the handle is not "" |
| 12:14.54 | monkalizer | the istestmap has manual and automated as paramters |
| 12:14.58 | A1win | but it's not your battle.net handle either |
| 12:15.17 | A1win | yeah not exactly sure what those mean, just test both I guess :P |
| 12:15.43 | A1win | is manual test OR is automated test -> not on bnet |
| 12:16.06 | monkalizer | :) |
| 12:16.54 | monkalizer | Automated did not work... |
| 12:17.14 | monkalizer | Manual did |
| 12:18.01 | A1win | mm... I wonder what automated is then |
| 12:18.43 | monkalizer | I'm using a dedicated test map for my mod. perhaps it has something to do with that...?= |
| 12:19.05 | A1win | sounds like by using some automated testing software to stress test stuff |
| 12:19.23 | A1win | huh? |
| 12:19.27 | A1win | how'd that make it automated ;p |
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| 12:19.55 | A1win | or a test, for that matter.. I mean how would bnet know that you are "testing" and not just playing |
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| 12:38.14 | monkalizer | hm I need some sound effects. where do you guys get yours? do you get them from online sources or do you just stick to the ingame ones |
| 12:39.32 | A1win | I've used almost only SC2 concent |
| 12:39.40 | A1win | only have used some custom icons so far |
| 12:41.06 | A1win | it's not easy to find good sound effects that are free to use and fit into the theme of a map |
| 12:41.53 | A1win | so it's easier to use a setting that's already there ;p |
| 12:42.07 | A1win | with good quality models, animations, textures, sounds |
| 12:42.26 | A1win | than add some crappy second-hand sounds on top of it |
| 12:42.46 | A1win | err not second-hand, but you know what I mean ;p |
| 12:43.04 | monkalizer | I'l try to record some on my own. need some cash pile sounds (cashing!) and something for when you earn some "domination score" |
| 12:50.35 | Leruster | guys listen! |
| 12:50.38 | Leruster | you guys! |
| 12:50.45 | Leruster | I suck at terran :P |
| 12:50.51 | Leruster | with* |
| 12:51.14 | Leruster | playing* |
| 12:51.15 | Leruster | :P |
| 12:57.24 | monkalizer | I suck at playing all races := |
| 13:03.02 | Zolden | Leruster: there is a strange thing with the old exporter |
| 13:03.10 | Zolden | it interprets 2 bones as 1 |
| 13:03.37 | Zolden | if we have a bone with another bone on its tip it exports it as 1 bone |
| 13:04.01 | Leruster | yeah I know |
| 13:04.11 | Leruster | I fixed that :) |
| 13:04.17 | Zolden | oh great |
| 13:04.28 | Zolden | now I have to use an additional bone in those cases |
| 13:23.34 | Zolden | Leruster: are you NiNToxicated, or you are different persons? |
| 13:23.45 | Leruster | different :) |
| 13:23.54 | Leruster | although I also love NIN ;) |
| 13:24.33 | Leruster | if the NiN in NiNToxicated stands for Nine Inch Nails :) |
| 13:24.43 | Zolden | have you been working together on the exporter or you started after he stopped? |
| 13:24.57 | Leruster | I started after he stopped |
| 13:25.23 | Zolden | why he stopped? and why you decided to resume the attempts? |
| 13:25.36 | Leruster | I don't know why he stopped |
| 13:25.44 | Zolden | has he died? |
| 13:25.48 | Leruster | haha no :) |
| 13:25.53 | Zolden | or he gave you the source code and stuff |
| 13:26.00 | Zolden | ok |
| 13:26.06 | Leruster | I contacted him before I started to further develop the script |
| 13:26.17 | Leruster | you don't need the source because the script itself is a source |
| 13:26.23 | Leruster | well |
| 13:26.30 | Zolden | oh |
| 13:26.36 | Zolden | what programming language these scrips are written on? |
| 13:26.42 | Leruster | I started this Troll model for TotalBiscuit's Trollobattles |
| 13:26.47 | Zolden | oh, it's the max script, right |
| 13:27.05 | Leruster | and I wanted to have portrait so I added camera support, then I wanted displace material so I added that |
| 13:27.13 | Leruster | now I want particles and other stuff too :P |
| 13:27.19 | Zolden | cool |
| 13:27.49 | Leruster | yeah, it's the maxScript |
| 13:28.18 | Leruster | why do you ask? |
| 13:28.43 | Zolden | have you learned the m3 structure and how max works just for this improvement or you knew all this? |
| 13:28.53 | Zolden | just curious |
| 13:29.17 | Leruster | well I know how max works, I'm working in the CG industry :) |
| 13:29.28 | Leruster | but I didn't know anything about the m3 structure |
| 13:29.32 | Zolden | what's CG? |
| 13:29.34 | Leruster | so I learned it from scratch |
| 13:29.44 | Leruster | CG stands for Computer Graphics |
| 13:29.50 | Zolden | oh |
| 13:30.01 | Zolden | I guessed it 1 sec before you answered |
| 13:30.06 | Leruster | :P |
| 13:30.20 | Leruster | well not from scratch, I had this http://code.google.com/p/libm3/wiki/DIV |
| 13:30.36 | Leruster | and I figured out how the script works and started adding my own stuff |
| 13:30.45 | Zolden | hope they'll update it after hots out |
| 13:30.55 | Zolden | so you could adjust the tools |
| 13:30.58 | Leruster | who will update what? :) |
| 13:31.10 | Zolden | unless blizz release the art tools |
| 13:31.15 | Leruster | yeah |
| 13:31.31 | Leruster | hell, even if they release it today I'd still do the current update |
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| 13:31.43 | Zolden | :)) |
| 13:31.52 | Zolden | that's the spirit |
| 13:31.58 | Leruster | hehe :P |
| 13:32.11 | Zolden | no one's guarantee, that art tools will be better than what we have now |
| 13:32.23 | Leruster | heh they will be :) |
| 13:32.39 | Leruster | you know, much of the errors of the scripts come from not knowing the format |
| 13:32.48 | Leruster | we're just guessing here what does what |
| 13:33.10 | Leruster | Blizz won't share the m3 structures |
| 13:33.11 | Zolden | have you seen that vid maybe a year ago, where they turn baneling into tomato and spherify a unit |
| 13:33.21 | Leruster | and I don't blame them, it's their intelectual prop. |
| 13:33.30 | Leruster | yeah, from BlizzCon |
| 13:34.21 | Zolden | yeah, the exporter is a miracle actually |
| 13:34.45 | Leruster | you know, NINtoxicated did sooo much great work |
| 13:34.45 | Zolden | glad it's exists, no matter how hidden the info |
| 13:35.00 | Zolden | yeah, I've checked the scripts, they are huge |
| 13:35.03 | Leruster | I just built upon his work |
| 13:35.09 | Zolden | even if we suppose you created 1/2 of them |
| 13:35.17 | Zolden | still both of you did a huge job |
| 13:35.22 | Leruster | thanks :) |
| 13:37.03 | Leruster | after I finish this update I want to do a few units |
| 13:37.12 | Leruster | for more fantasty mods |
| 13:37.15 | Zolden | god, what an ugly turret I jsut created ;/ |
| 13:37.16 | Leruster | fantasy* |
| 13:37.20 | Leruster | haha :D |
| 13:37.26 | Leruster | show it |
| 13:38.04 | Zolden | yeah, making units is a fun thing, especially if you have the experience, that troll guy looked good |
| 13:38.20 | Zolden | sec, jsut need to make a fix to a texture |
| 13:39.28 | monkalizer | does anyone know how the blizzard legal rules go along with creative commons? do they combine? |
| 13:39.45 | monkalizer | or do i have to be the original creator of all content at all times? |
| 13:39.57 | Leruster | I don't know :) |
| 13:40.10 | Leruster | I think you have to have rights to it |
| 13:40.55 | monkalizer | hm... does stuff I make with rockband count as my music? or does apple have the rights to it? |
| 13:41.36 | Leruster | I think it's yours |
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| 13:48.34 | Zolden | this one: http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/32/891/fat_cannon.jpg |
| 14:05.33 | Leruster | It looks like a roll of toilet paper :P |
| 14:06.13 | Zolden | :)) |
| 14:09.28 | Zolden | Leruster: btw, I think I've got another little issue: animating the emissive multiplier of the material doesn't cause any visual effect |
| 14:22.03 | A1win | damn, giving an attack order targeting a unit with Conjoined behavior makes the attacker target the closest one of the units that share health... even if they don't share shields |
| 14:22.35 | A1win | oh wait it doesn't matter for this map |
| 14:22.36 | A1win | :P |
| 14:22.48 | A1win | forgot that players don't even control the units <.< |
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| 14:27.34 | Shawn|Rawr | Actually zolden, I think it looks like a mudball with a screw stuck in it |
| 14:28.50 | Zolden | yeah ;/ |
| 14:29.11 | Zolden | but I hope it's ok for op weapons or people to look ugly |
| 14:29.21 | Shawn|Rawr | Thats ok. Its very wc3-esque. |
| 14:29.32 | Shawn|Rawr | I like it |
| 14:30.51 | Zolden | :) |
| 14:34.37 | monkalizer | Im now officially the greates sound-hacker in this forum |
| 14:35.04 | Zolden | oh |
| 14:35.11 | Zolden | what you did to become one? |
| 14:35.45 | monkalizer | made my own sound effects in garage band and imported them to be fired when players are rewarded ^^ |
| 14:36.13 | monkalizer | I even used my own money in creating the coin effect |
| 14:36.17 | monkalizer | aw yeah |
| 14:37.53 | Zolden | great |
| 14:38.02 | monkalizer | i had some difficulties with one sound. I wanted some kind of sound effect to play continously while the players are "dominating" areas for additional feedback. But i could not come up with any good sound effect... ended up using a click sound |
| 14:39.19 | Zolden | btw, using feedback sounds uis a good style |
| 14:39.36 | monkalizer | yeah its always there |
| 14:39.45 | monkalizer | hard to come up with a good one though |
| 14:40.15 | Zolden | ever thought about recording a fart sound for it? |
| 14:40.32 | Zolden | actually internet is full of fart sounds i guess |
| 14:40.48 | monkalizer | yeah but its not my farts |
| 14:41.06 | monkalizer | I think the picture of me farting on a macbook pro would be better than the final sound effect |
| 14:41.24 | Zolden | good idea |
| 14:41.42 | Shawn|Rawr | I'll fart on your macbook pro |
| 14:41.47 | Shawn|Rawr | Dont even need to pay me |
| 14:42.14 | Shawn|Rawr | I know, I'm so generous |
| 14:42.45 | monkalizer | haha I changed the default music to be the cantina music, and now it sounds like the clicksounds are actually - you know when you digg music and snap with your fingers... |
| 14:43.09 | monkalizer | aw yeah, getting in tune with the game |
| 14:43.35 | monkalizer | uhh now the song changed and its no longer the same rythm |
| 14:44.04 | monkalizer | oh well, it will work as a placeholder for now |
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| 14:52.33 | Dustin | Mindy! |
| 14:52.44 | MindWorX | Dustin! |
| 14:52.54 | Dustin | what's up bud! |
| 14:53.11 | MindWorX | A whole bunch of things. How about you? |
| 14:54.23 | Dustin | Just relaxin on my day off |
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| 15:46.40 | A1win | is there a way to increase the distance at which a sound fades away for all sounds without having to modify every sound individually? |
| 15:51.09 | A1win | hmmh... is that even controlled in the sound files |
| 15:51.22 | A1win | *sound entries |
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| 15:51.32 | Shawn|Rawr_ | My guess is C Sound since that is the parent to all the sound data |
| 15:52.51 | A1win | mmhcan't see anything distance related in them though |
| 15:53.37 | Shawn|Rawr_ | I'm wrong |
| 15:53.41 | Shawn|Rawr_ | It's gotta be WORLD |
| 15:54.54 | A1win | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:58.21 | A1win | no idea if any of those settings would make the sound be heard from further away |
| 15:58.29 | A1win | trying to make them audible when zooming out with camera |
| 15:58.48 | Shawn|Rawr_ | Don't know |
| 15:59.09 | Shawn|Rawr_ | The CTerrain in the terrain types tab has a sound distance factor |
| 15:59.17 | A1win | oh |
| 15:59.18 | Shawn|Rawr_ | That could very well be it too |
| 15:59.47 | Shawn|Rawr_ | Seemingly sound distances are decided by the terrain and not the sound itself |
| 15:59.52 | monkalizer | there is a play sound at point |
| 15:59.57 | monkalizer | (function) |
| 16:00.57 | Shawn|Rawr_ | Also interesting to note that they round gravity to the nearest tenth in this game |
| 16:01.03 | monkalizer | it depends on how you want to play the sound. |
| 16:01.17 | A1win | I'm talking about unit sounds |
| 16:01.24 | A1win | 3D sounds |
| 16:01.26 | A1win | I mean |
| 16:01.28 | A1win | not UI sounds |
| 16:01.35 | Shawn|Rawr_ | UI is 2D |
| 16:01.46 | Shawn|Rawr_ | I think the terrain data is what you need for 3D |
| 16:01.49 | Shawn|Rawr_ | I'm hoping |
| 16:01.58 | A1win | hmm I managed to mute them all |
| 16:01.59 | A1win | :P |
| 16:02.13 | A1win | yeah it seems to affect it |
| 16:02.20 | Shawn|Rawr_ | Now just do the opposite of mute |
| 16:02.20 | A1win | just trying to figure out how exactly now |
| 16:02.48 | A1win | seems to be smaller means audible further away |
| 16:02.59 | A1win | not sure if it's the distance or the rolloff that affects it, or both |
| 16:03.50 | A1win | I set both to 10 and all sounds muted, now I set them to 0.5 and didn't notice any change from normal |
| 16:04.17 | A1win | hmm |
| 16:04.23 | A1win | with 0.1 I think I can hear something... |
| 16:04.30 | A1win | maybe one should be higher and one lower D: |
| 16:05.34 | Shawn|Rawr_ | Set the distance factor higher |
| 16:05.40 | Shawn|Rawr_ | And leave the rolloff normal |
| 16:06.13 | Shawn|Rawr_ | :D |
| 16:06.15 | A1win | that was the first thing I tried, can't notice any change |
| 16:06.23 | Shawn|Rawr_ | Ah. Forget me then |
| 16:06.31 | Shawn|Rawr_ | I'm just guessing |
| 16:07.07 | A1win | even at distance factor 100 it seems normal |
| 16:08.16 | A1win | and same with distance factor 0.01 |
| 16:08.56 | A1win | hmm |
| 16:09.12 | A1win | now it seems to just suddenly cut off when I zoom higher |
| 16:09.49 | A1win | yeah roll off affects that |
| 16:09.57 | A1win | but there is still something that caps the max distance |
| 16:10.26 | A1win | 0.01 rollof made it so that the sound fades out only right at the max distance instead of slowly fading towards it |
| 16:10.39 | A1win | *rolloff |
| 16:10.47 | A1win | so rolloff should be left like that... |
| 16:10.55 | A1win | but sound distance factor doesn't seem to do anything :( |
| 16:11.10 | Shawn|Rawr_ | ah |
| 16:11.12 | Shawn|Rawr_ | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/map-development/7760-camera-zoom-distance-causing-sound-effects-problems/ |
| 16:11.33 | Shawn|Rawr_ | i shouldve just searched it to begin with |
| 16:11.52 | A1win | they don't actually say what they did |
| 16:12.17 | A1win | oh UI |
| 16:13.57 | A1win | err |
| 16:13.59 | Shawn|Rawr_ | Theres a distance field in there |
| 16:14.09 | A1win | I edited them, but they didn't change O.o |
| 16:14.21 | A1win | oh |
| 16:15.03 | Shawn|Rawr_ | Is your camera going to be zooming in and out or locked in one place? |
| 16:15.23 | A1win | zooming |
| 16:15.37 | A1win | well, I'm not even sure if it's going to be like this, just trying it out |
| 16:16.23 | A1win | yeah it worked o: |
| 16:16.39 | Shawn|Rawr_ | Lovely |
| 16:16.48 | A1win | though it also affects x/y distance |
| 16:17.11 | A1win | but that probably doesn't matter |
| 16:19.14 | Shawn|Rawr_ | apparently deadzergling who is in here a lot has experience with the issue |
| 16:19.24 | Shawn|Rawr_ | maybe ask him later |
| 16:19.32 | Shawn|Rawr_ | ^.^ |
| 16:41.51 | A1win | mmh how did they do the dark protoss stuff in the campaign |
| 16:42.15 | A1win | the actors only have a check for whether the unit has dark protoss behavior when it's born or constructed |
| 16:42.30 | A1win | but how do I add a behavior to a unit before it exists other than by editing the data |
| 16:44.26 | A1win | oh it's an upgrade <.< |
| 16:46.08 | A1win | well that was easier than adding a behavior to all units :P |
| 16:46.44 | A1win | cool now the players can actually distinquish which units belong to which team |
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| 17:02.10 | Dustin | So i think that if we need to be connected to battle.net to use the editor, we should have chat integration |
| 17:19.32 | A1win | or just a remove bnet chat |
| 17:19.37 | A1win | *remote |
| 17:19.40 | A1win | <.< |
| 17:19.54 | A1win | I mean stand-alone :P |
| 17:20.04 | A1win | almost got it right the first time |
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| 17:45.16 | Dustin | Thatd be nice to |
| 17:45.54 | A1win | they already have that mobile wow chat app but dunno if it works without wow |
| 17:46.01 | A1win | and it's only for mobile devices <.< |
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| 18:27.44 | ckSynergy | sup guys |
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| 18:30.36 | monkalizer | hello |
| 18:30.45 | EnexyNunu | >.> |
| 18:31.35 | A1win | would be nice to have a function that returns a point along the path that a unit is moving on with pathfinding |
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| 18:32.06 | monkalizer | what about the path functions that came with 1.5 |
| 18:32.21 | A1win | oh? haven't seen those |
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| 18:32.42 | monkalizer | yeah you can at least make markings on the ground for path findings |
| 18:32.47 | A1win | oh seems to be just a path display |
| 18:32.50 | monkalizer | or eh... try it out :) |
| 18:33.17 | monkalizer | I think G0A used it in his towerdefence map, the paths are marking where the units are going to be moving |
| 18:33.21 | A1win | can only get source and destination |
| 18:33.22 | Taintedwisp | HEY EVERYONE!!! |
| 18:33.23 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 18:33.29 | A1win | monkalizer, yeah I can see the functions for that |
| 18:33.30 | monkalizer | so you can predict where to build towers |
| 18:33.32 | A1win | but it only displays |
| 18:33.38 | monkalizer | ok |
| 18:33.42 | A1win | you can't get those points into variables |
| 18:34.06 | Taintedwisp | you no love me? |
| 18:34.07 | hobbidude | anyone know how to limit temple doodads from changing between the belshir and shakuras texturing? |
| 18:34.07 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 18:34.22 | monkalizer | well, perhaps there are problems with it since such paths requires dynamic arrays of points |
| 18:34.26 | hobbidude | friggen annoying |
| 18:34.26 | Taintedwisp | I am guessing hobbidude that its in the Variances on the model |
| 18:34.38 | Taintedwisp | Go to the model tab and isolate which Variance you want to use |
| 18:34.48 | A1win | monkalizer, nothing complicated about getting a point from a dynamic array ;p |
| 18:34.49 | monkalizer | hobbidude: are they doodad objects or walls? |
| 18:35.10 | hobbidude | the columns |
| 18:35.13 | Taintedwisp | And I probably called them by the wrong name by saying variance |
| 18:35.14 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 18:35.16 | Taintedwisp | one sec |
| 18:35.19 | monkalizer | A1win: no but perhaps its complicated to ask for all points from a dynamic array when you cant make your own dynamic arrays := |
| 18:35.21 | hobbidude | called temple column walls |
| 18:35.32 | Taintedwisp | Variation |
| 18:35.32 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 18:35.54 | A1win | monkalizer, but we don't need to get them *all* with the function, could just get "point i from path" |
| 18:35.54 | Taintedwisp | Give me 1 minutes Hobbidude and ill tell you the exact variation |
| 18:36.05 | A1win | and "number of points in path" |
| 18:36.22 | monkalizer | hm thats true... |
| 18:36.41 | A1win | would be very useful for AI scripting |
| 18:37.26 | Taintedwisp | Okay Hobbidude you want 3, 6,7,8 |
| 18:37.28 | Taintedwisp | okay? |
| 18:37.34 | Taintedwisp | If you want the green ones |
| 18:37.43 | hobbidude | yes |
| 18:37.46 | Taintedwisp | 1,2,4,5 if you want the Bluish ones |
| 18:37.46 | hobbidude | belshir |
| 18:37.53 | Taintedwisp | okay so go to the models tab |
| 18:37.56 | Taintedwisp | in the data editor |
| 18:38.09 | hobbidude | yup |
| 18:38.36 | monkalizer | peculiar: all my functions have changed name to Untitled function... |
| 18:38.50 | monkalizer | rebooting... |
| 18:38.57 | Taintedwisp | The go to Variations plus |
| 18:39.00 | Zolden | A1win: I guess, you see ways to implement this function |
| 18:39.24 | ckSynergy | sup tainted |
| 18:39.31 | ckSynergy | how goes your project? |
| 18:39.43 | monkalizer | argh... it does not go away >:( have anyone experienced this problem? |
| 18:40.01 | Taintedwisp | Change Variation count to 4 |
| 18:40.10 | Taintedwisp | then in Variations+ add 4 |
| 18:40.25 | Taintedwisp | In the number part put 3, then 6, then 7, then 8 |
| 18:40.32 | Taintedwisp | Then in the probability put 1 |
| 18:40.46 | Taintedwisp | Do that for each one and you should be good |
| 18:41.18 | monkalizer | where do you send in bug reports about the editor? |
| 18:41.18 | A1win | Zolden, what do you mean? |
| 18:41.19 | Taintedwisp | Okay that in now way worked :P |
| 18:41.20 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 18:41.22 | Taintedwisp | Now |
| 18:41.23 | Taintedwisp | no |
| 18:41.26 | hobbidude | nope |
| 18:41.27 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 18:41.41 | Taintedwisp | Actually it just isolated the first four, change the variation count to 8 again |
| 18:41.42 | A1win | Zolden, it needs to be a native function, we don't have access to the pathfinding code |
| 18:42.42 | hobbidude | nope |
| 18:42.49 | Taintedwisp | Honestly Hobbidude I dont know... |
| 18:42.53 | Taintedwisp | I know i have done it before |
| 18:43.02 | Taintedwisp | but I just dont remember what I did, i thought that was it |
| 18:43.02 | monkalizer | where do you send bug reports for the editor? |
| 18:43.12 | hobbidude | sc2 forum |
| 18:43.22 | monkalizer | sight |
| 18:43.24 | monkalizer | *sigh |
| 18:43.36 | Taintedwisp | Hey CKSynergy, its going alright |
| 18:43.47 | Taintedwisp | Just wish my teammate would come online :P |
| 18:43.52 | Taintedwisp | havent seen him in |
| 18:43.56 | hobbidude | bugs http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/13440/ maps http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/13437/ |
| 18:43.57 | Taintedwisp | ~seen Vailreth |
| 18:44.04 | purl | vailreth <~kvirc@75.108.220.50> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 13d 1h 7m 58s ago, saying: 'my interests havent cycled back to mapping yet'. |
| 18:44.04 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 18:44.32 | Taintedwisp | he came online with a different name though, but its been about 8 days |
| 18:44.49 | Taintedwisp | Thinking about finding another data editor to help me out dunno yet. |
| 18:45.17 | Zolden | A1win: yes, it would be cool to have such a function, but if one's realy need it, he could implement one using what we have |
| 18:45.25 | hobbidude | ya, need a good one myself |
| 18:45.33 | A1win | Zolden, not efficiently enough |
| 18:45.41 | Zolden | yes |
| 18:46.06 | Zolden | now we have to prove blizz guys we need it |
| 18:46.12 | Taintedwisp | Ck Join my project :P |
| 18:46.14 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 18:46.16 | hobbidude | zolden what are you looking for? |
| 18:46.47 | Zolden | hobbidude: a function to generate an array of points of unit's path |
| 18:47.50 | hobbidude | are the units target points already loading into an array? |
| 18:48.27 | Zolden | or something to add weights to terrain types/regions, so pathfinding algorithms to take it into account |
| 18:48.53 | Zolden | hobbidude: target points are, but not path's |
| 18:48.55 | hobbidude | or your having issue of return the x and y from a single function? |
| 18:49.25 | Zolden | jsut dreaming about something we haven't right now |
| 18:50.13 | Zolden | Roads fasten units in my map, water slow them, I need pathfinding take it into account ;/ |
| 18:50.38 | hobbidude | oh so you want a something like a loop with a weighted return |
| 18:51.27 | Taintedwisp | Whats a good Infested Terrans Name? |
| 18:51.35 | Zolden | yea |
| 18:51.38 | hobbidude | Soggy |
| 18:51.44 | Zolden | any workaround |
| 18:51.53 | Zolden | but pathfinding is hidden |
| 18:52.08 | monkalizer | puh! the names are still there, in the identifier |
| 18:52.30 | Zolden | monkalizer: haven't you pressed ctrl + d? |
| 18:52.53 | monkalizer | wtf |
| 18:53.04 | monkalizer | !?!?!?! what kind of a cruel button is that |
| 18:53.11 | Zolden | it's useful |
| 18:53.22 | Taintedwisp | Whats a good name for an Infested Terran? |
| 18:53.25 | Zolden | when your editor is localized |
| 18:53.26 | monkalizer | yes, if you know it :) |
| 18:53.44 | monkalizer | Zinkul |
| 18:53.50 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: INFESTRON |
| 18:53.57 | monkalizer | Taintedwisp: Herzman |
| 18:54.10 | hobbidude | Bob |
| 18:54.18 | Taintedwisp | Its infested not a robot or jewish :P |
| 18:54.23 | monkalizer | Bob Infestman |
| 18:54.38 | Zolden | Mr. Ivegotinfestedbutidontcare |
| 18:54.38 | monkalizer | Bob Infestson |
| 18:54.45 | monkalizer | Bob Zergson |
| 18:54.53 | hobbidude | first there was protect bob, now there is shoot bob |
| 18:54.56 | monkalizer | Bob Tentacle |
| 18:54.58 | Taintedwisp | I got one :P |
| 18:55.06 | Zolden | Dick Vaginson |
| 18:55.16 | Taintedwisp | John the Infestor. |
| 18:55.33 | hobbidude | john the infestor connor? |
| 18:55.38 | monkalizer | me thinks this is going downhill |
| 18:55.42 | hobbidude | lmao |
| 18:56.40 | Taintedwisp | yeah... I thought it out.. |
| 18:56.44 | Taintedwisp | not john the infestor |
| 18:58.35 | Taintedwisp | Hmm |
| 18:58.44 | Taintedwisp | I wish I could make an infested thor :P |
| 18:59.15 | monkalizer | take the thor model and attach a scaled down hive to his head - a zerghat |
| 18:59.47 | monkalizer | and attach a overlord to his hand as a baloon |
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| 19:04.06 | hobbidude | zolden: you've seen this http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/trigger-libraries/24847-poc-a-fruit-a-star-fruit-pathfinding-algorithm/ |
| 19:07.31 | Zolden | yes |
| 19:07.40 | Zolden | he uses tons of dummy units |
| 19:09.12 | A1win | pathfinding is very heavy even as a native function |
| 19:14.25 | EnexyNunu | giggity giggity |
| 19:15.46 | Zolden | what? someone revealed boobs? |
| 19:21.53 | Taintedwisp | IS MAPSTER FUCKING SERIOUS!!! |
| 19:21.55 | Taintedwisp | dammit |
| 19:22.03 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:22.06 | Zolden | about? |
| 19:22.08 | Taintedwisp | .rars are not allowe... |
| 19:22.30 | Zolden | yes, if they >10mb |
| 19:22.56 | Taintedwisp | this is 6.7 MB... |
| 19:23.00 | Taintedwisp | but it contains over 300 files... |
| 19:23.03 | Taintedwisp | wait... |
| 19:23.04 | Taintedwisp | over 400 |
| 19:23.05 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 19:23.15 | Taintedwisp | Trying to upload the unit sounds that have been converted |
| 19:24.34 | Taintedwisp | then how the hell do I upload this entire folder |
| 19:24.35 | Taintedwisp | ? |
| 19:25.02 | Zolden | rars are allowed as attachments |
| 19:25.15 | Zolden | to posts |
| 19:25.23 | Zolden | dunno how else ppl upload |
| 19:26.08 | Zolden | what are those sounds? farts? |
| 19:27.08 | Taintedwisp | the entire Warcraft 2 sound collections coverted to .ogg |
| 19:29.30 | Zolden | YOUR SOUND CARD WORKS PERFECTLY |
| 19:37.19 | monkalizer | why is it not possible to enter a allies dropship or bunker? |
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| 19:37.45 | monkalizer | or rather: how do I change this? |
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| 19:39.04 | Zolden | there was an ability, to let allies use abilities |
| 19:39.08 | Zolden | forgot its name |
| 19:40.59 | Exaken | On the target filter of the load/unload ability, by default only "Player" is checked |
| 19:41.00 | monkalizer | hm |
| 19:41.01 | Zolden | interact |
| 19:41.16 | monkalizer | would somebody like to test my map. its an alpha map on the eu |
| 19:41.18 | Zolden | or that one axaken said |
| 19:41.25 | monkalizer | ok! |
| 19:41.52 | Zolden | i'd test later, now i'm modelling |
| 19:42.04 | monkalizer | ok :) i'l check the chatchannel |
| 19:43.52 | Dustin | Hmmm |
| 19:44.09 | Dustin | Seems that player 15 doesnt find that other player 15 units are allys |
| 19:45.53 | monkalizer | perhaps they are all enemies with each other (hostile) |
| 19:47.42 | Dustin | weird, im going to try and force them to be allies |
| 19:48.06 | monkalizer | change the player property to none hostile |
| 19:49.04 | Dustin | to what |
| 19:50.26 | Dustin | Changed it to computer and it didnt like that |
| 19:50.31 | Dustin | broke a bunch of shit |
| 19:50.45 | Exaken | Units in the same team shouldn't attack each other, weird |
| 19:50.48 | monkalizer | hm, neutral or none, i dont have the editor open, but normally player 0 is neutral, and player 15 is hostile. |
| 19:51.07 | Dustin | They arnet attacking |
| 19:51.13 | Dustin | I have a target requirement of ally |
| 19:51.24 | Dustin | And the attack triggers a heal behavior |
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| 19:51.29 | A1win | ally means *ally*, not self |
| 19:51.44 | A1win | ally as in "another player who is allied to me" |
| 19:51.45 | Dustin | ok then |
| 19:51.51 | Dustin | Ill see if I can heal one of my own guys |
| 19:53.03 | Dustin | Ah |
| 19:53.05 | Dustin | Yes... |
| 19:53.06 | Dustin | hmmm |
| 19:53.19 | A1win | if you want to be able to target a player's own units with an ability, you need to have the "Player" target filter on |
| 19:53.35 | ckSynergy | I seriously do not get the "top played" listing |
| 19:54.18 | A1win | it used to be top played during the last 48 hours, dunno if it's changed |
| 19:54.23 | ckSynergy | once you get to the top, it's basically a "forever" thing. never resets |
| 19:54.34 | ckSynergy | eh it use to reset ages ago |
| 19:54.39 | ckSynergy | havent een it reset since 1.5 |
| 19:54.41 | ckSynergy | *seen |
| 19:54.43 | A1win | weird |
| 19:54.45 | Dustin | Player target filter huh |
| 19:54.51 | Dustin | I dont think ive seen that yet |
| 19:54.54 | Dustin | ill look around |
| 19:54.59 | A1win | maybe it's because there aren't as good maps as those that are at the top ;p |
| 19:55.14 | A1win | Dustin, the same place you have the Ally |
| 19:55.19 | A1win | in target filters, at the bottom |
| 19:55.20 | ckSynergy | there are plenty of good maps |
| 19:55.26 | A1win | Neutral, Enemy, Ally, Player |
| 19:55.26 | ckSynergy | the list just never resets |
| 19:55.46 | A1win | by good I mean maps that players play the most :P |
| 19:56.14 | ckSynergy | people are only gonna play the maps that fill. They dont want to join a lobby and wait 3 hours for it to fill |
| 19:56.33 | A1win | it's not easy to get a new map popular because players like to play with their friends, and if their friends are already playing some map with them, why try to change |
| 19:56.46 | ckSynergy | ^^ |
| 19:57.06 | A1win | I'm still playing WoW even though there are probably better games out there ;p |
| 19:57.22 | A1win | but my friends play it and we already know how to play it well, so it's very difficult to switch to something else |
| 19:57.26 | Dustin | I used Player Alliance validator |
| 19:57.28 | RiFT | lol, true |
| 19:57.37 | A1win | Dustin, oh... dunno about validators then |
| 19:57.41 | A1win | -then |
| 19:57.52 | A1win | Dustin, but why do you need a validator? |
| 19:57.57 | A1win | you could just use the target filter |
| 19:58.28 | A1win | Dustin, or unit filter match validator |
| 19:58.36 | A1win | that also has the alliance filters in it |
| 20:00.29 | RiFT | if i want my missile to create a persistent on impact to handle splash damage, i just set the create persistent as the impact effect have the create persistent with offsets for the aoe call a search and then the search calls the damage effect |
| 20:01.17 | RiFT | do i need any additional filters or validators aside from what the missile originally targets? |
| 20:01.25 | Repo | New experimental map: No Hope - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/no-hope/ |
| 20:01.30 | Repo | New asset: Warcraft 2 Unit Sounds - http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/warcraft-2-unit-sounds/ |
| 20:02.45 | Taintedwisp | there |
| 20:02.50 | zlefin | how hard is it to make an ability autocast? |
| 20:02.59 | Taintedwisp | a flag |
| 20:03.00 | Taintedwisp | i think |
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| 20:03.21 | Taintedwisp | Zlefin |
| 20:03.23 | Taintedwisp | listen |
| 20:03.25 | Taintedwisp | Go to your ability |
| 20:03.38 | Taintedwisp | go to flags + then Check Auto Cast, and Auto Cast initially on |
| 20:03.48 | Taintedwisp | thne you SHOULD be good |
| 20:03.49 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 20:04.02 | zlefin | ok, i'll check that, somehow i thought it'd be harder to do :P |
| 20:04.15 | Taintedwisp | same, but I saw that the other day :P |
| 20:04.39 | Taintedwisp | I dont know if you can make target abilities autocast |
| 20:05.22 | Exaken | Target abilities can also be autocast, but you probably need a validator |
| 20:05.43 | Dustin | Fuck ya I fixed it |
| 20:05.55 | Dustin | Made a new validator, Target Is NOT Enemy |
| 20:06.02 | Dustin | And excluded only enemy |
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| 20:39.33 | Bounty | Dustin |
| 20:39.41 | Bounty | Test? :) i redid the entire control system |
| 20:39.46 | Bounty | no more wasd >.< |
| 20:42.56 | Dustin | bounty |
| 20:42.57 | Dustin | yes |
| 20:42.58 | Dustin | wait what |
| 20:43.02 | Dustin | why no more wasd |
| 20:43.02 | Bounty | PM me |
| 20:43.14 | Bounty | bc it ruined the combat imo |
| 20:43.19 | Bounty | it is way more like fat princess now |
| 20:43.21 | Bounty | ull see :) |
| 20:44.35 | A1win | hmm... I need to figure out some way to spice up this map a bit, now the units are just walking to the enemy base in a sraight line, so it kind of has lanes... |
| 20:44.50 | A1win | which wasn't the intention D: |
| 20:45.17 | RiFT | =/ why won't my aoe work? |
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| 21:00.33 | Bounty | good test Dustin |
| 21:00.37 | Bounty | despite those bugs lol |
| 21:00.47 | Dustin | ya lol |
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| 21:11.53 | Zolden | Skizot |
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| 21:14.20 | Taintedwisp | THERE I infested a thor hahaaha |
| 21:14.35 | Taintedwisp | Hey Deletarius Didnt think you would be here on a saturday :P |
| 21:14.43 | A1win | he's not |
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| 21:16.22 | Taintedwisp | he wasnt in the channel earlier? |
| 21:16.31 | Taintedwisp | I dont think anyways |
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| 21:26.04 | Taintedwisp | hmmmmmmmmmm |
| 21:26.52 | Taintedwisp | VOIDRAYS VOIDRAYS VOIDRaYS!!! |
| 21:27.54 | monkalizer | how did it go with the infested thor - with the hat and such? |
| 21:28.11 | Zolden | monkalizer: still need to test? |
| 21:29.02 | monkalizer | not really, im experiencing problems with team detection... :( |
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| 21:29.12 | Taintedwisp_ | Back sorry i had a disconnect |
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| 21:29.18 | Taintedwisp_ | What where you saying MOnkalizer? |
| 21:29.48 | monkalizer | you wanted to make a infested thor, i suggested you put a lair on his haead |
| 21:30.40 | Taintedwisp_ | Oh :P |
| 21:30.46 | Taintedwisp_ | Nah I got something better :P |
| 21:32.51 | monkalizer | some server seems to be dying |
| 21:34.52 | Taintedwisp_ | http://i.imgur.com/etzlY.jpg |
| 21:35.15 | Taintedwisp_ | it deff looks better in game |
| 21:35.16 | Taintedwisp_ | :P |
| 21:35.18 | monkalizer | haha looks great |
| 21:35.31 | Taintedwisp_ | Thats Actually a model called, Infested |
| 21:35.38 | Taintedwisp_ | with Infested attack model |
| 21:35.39 | monkalizer | mhm |
| 21:37.21 | monkalizer | are you going to use it in any map? |
| 21:39.18 | monkalizer | multiplayer is so hard to test... it always goes wrong somehow... |
| 21:39.33 | A1win | wrong? |
| 21:40.22 | monkalizer | well there is always something not working as it should be... |
| 21:40.32 | Taintedwisp_ | Yeah Imma use it as a hero in EvoFrenzy |
| 21:40.33 | A1win | in the map? |
| 21:40.34 | Taintedwisp_ | its my 9th Hero |
| 21:41.02 | monkalizer | A1win: i have one mod and 12-13 maps depending on it :) |
| 21:41.07 | A1win | if the map is bugged, it's not a problem with multiplayer testing, but a problem with the map being broken :P |
| 21:42.14 | monkalizer | i think its because of threading... i have these chaings of setup functions. If one is not complete before the others are launching the initiation does not work... Some stuff is setup from the map and some stuff is generic... (=problems) |
| 21:43.15 | monkalizer | *chains |
| 21:44.26 | monkalizer | I guess the "closing everything and starting up the game every time I want to test" adds to the irritation |
| 21:47.31 | monkalizer | how is player 0 handled in the battle net lobby? |
| 21:48.08 | monkalizer | In my map i set that player to be neutral (default) but as far as I understand players get their numbers according to how they drop into the lobby |
| 21:48.32 | A1win | dunno but you always need at least one non-user player, so that you can only have up to 15 users |
| 21:49.57 | monkalizer | hmmm... |
| 22:01.21 | monkalizer | A1win: have you tried using graphics (loadingscreens/models) in mods in maps and gotten it to work? |
| 22:01.51 | A1win | haven't done anything with mods |
| 22:02.02 | monkalizer | hm |
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| 22:13.54 | Taintedwisp_ | HMMM |
| 22:14.23 | Taintedwisp_ | Hey ThunderLord hows it goin? |
| 22:14.41 | ThunderLord | Hey Taintedwisp_ |
| 22:14.43 | ThunderLord | pretty good |
| 22:14.47 | ThunderLord | hey i was just about to ask you |
| 22:14.59 | ThunderLord | if i could get u to join a game so i can get ur battle.net handle? |
| 22:25.45 | ThunderLord | Is it true that Blizz might be giving us WC3 models in HoTS? |
| 22:26.08 | Exaken | They redid some of them for Blizz All starts |
| 22:26.12 | Exaken | Stars* |
| 22:26.19 | ThunderLord | nah but hardcore for realz ones |
| 22:26.29 | ThunderLord | there was that link |
| 22:26.38 | ThunderLord | http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http://starcraft2.judgehype.com/news/des-traces-de-warcraft-iii-dans-la-beta-de-starcraft-ii-hots/ |
| 22:29.07 | Taintedwisp_ | yeah I can, but can I have like 5-10 more minutes? |
| 22:29.56 | Taintedwisp_ | Nvm im omw |
| 22:29.56 | Taintedwisp_ | :P |
| 22:30.01 | Taintedwisp_ | What I was doing just plain failed haah |
| 22:30.36 | ThunderLord | lol |
| 22:30.40 | ThunderLord | ight |
| 22:31.31 | Taintedwisp_ | logging in now |
| 22:32.11 | ThunderLord | cool |
| 22:32.12 | ThunderLord | im on |
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| 22:47.22 | monkalizer | any europeans who would like to test a map? |
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| 22:53.07 | monkalizer | Ahli: ? Zolden? are you still online? |
| 22:53.48 | Ahli | ~seen Ahli |
| 22:53.53 | purl | ahli is currently on #sc2mapster (5h 15m 57s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 5s, last said: '~seen Ahli'. |
| 22:54.15 | monkalizer | ??? |
| 22:54.16 | Ahli | but I'm busy |
| 22:54.31 | monkalizer | ah |
| 23:02.08 | zlefin | hmm, so each ability type supports different flags, and quite a few don't have an autocast option |
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| 23:12.33 | Bounty | Dustin, its ready for REAL testing. you can repair the door and upgrade the class buildings now |
| 23:16.12 | Taintedwisp_ | Bounty... your an asshole... |
| 23:16.17 | Taintedwisp_ | See i remember things |
| 23:16.18 | Taintedwisp_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:27.41 | Ahli | search in triggers has a problem with switches |
| 23:31.20 | A1win | huh? |
| 23:31.36 | A1win | oh, nevermind |
| 23:31.46 | A1win | was thinking about a search function ;p |
| 23:32.13 | Ahli | the search for trigger text in GUI :D |
| 23:32.17 | Ahli | ctrl f |
| 23:33.15 | A1win | I've never needed to use it because I haven't been looking at other people's maps :P |
| 23:33.48 | ThunderLord | I lose stuf in my map sometimes |
| 23:33.53 | ThunderLord | It just gets so big |
| 23:33.59 | ThunderLord | and i revisit stuf like 5 months later |
| 23:34.11 | A1win | ;> |
| 23:34.39 | A1win | I have good memory of my own creations |
| 23:34.51 | ThunderLord | Well arnt u perfect then! |
| 23:34.59 | ThunderLord | Not all of us have perfect memories! |
| 23:35.21 | ThunderLord | lol |
| 23:35.38 | A1win | that's what the search is for :X |
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| 23:52.41 | ThunderLord | yeah i guess |
| 23:52.44 | ThunderLord | for us stupid people |
