| 00:00.02 | Almaity | but drop downs of actors take a long time load |
| 00:00.07 | Taintedwisp_ | no its not its on every run for me :( |
| 00:00.17 | Almaity | do you close sc2 every time? |
| 00:00.20 | Taintedwisp_ | wait maybe not online though |
| 00:00.22 | Almaity | I just leave it open in the back |
| 00:00.33 | Taintedwisp_ | i cant leave it open, I have a crap computer |
| 00:00.44 | Almaity | :( |
| 00:00.59 | Almaity | minimizing & pausing it should prevent most of the resource drain |
| 00:01.07 | Taintedwisp_ | :P |
| 00:01.13 | Taintedwisp_ | Still too much haha |
| 00:01.22 | Taintedwisp_ | My computer is SUPER CRAPPY!!! |
| 00:01.23 | Taintedwisp_ | :P |
| 00:01.47 | Almaity | if your RAM is low, reloading all that info is still gonna be faster than restarting the game AND going through the streaming check |
| 00:02.02 | Taintedwisp_ | 3 GB ram :P so yeah its a tad low |
| 00:02.16 | Almaity | last resort: Open task manager, go to processes, right click starcraft 2 and set its priority to low while youre working in the editor |
| 00:02.19 | Taintedwisp_ | So is the graphics card i dunno its size haah |
| 00:02.22 | Almaity | i got 4GB and I can run both fine |
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| 00:02.35 | Taintedwisp_ | My processor is amd 2.2 Dual core |
| 00:02.36 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ |
| 00:02.45 | Taintedwisp_ | GET OUT SIXEN!!!!!!! |
| 00:02.46 | Taintedwisp_ | :P |
| 00:02.59 | Almaity | i got an intel one with similar power |
| 00:03.09 | Taintedwisp_ | ah |
| 00:03.13 | Almaity | you should be able to have both open at the same time |
| 00:03.29 | Almaity | just make sure sc2 is minimized and paused while youre not using it |
| 00:03.32 | Exaken | I've got 8GB, but leaving it open will slow down other games |
| 00:03.44 | Almaity | Well, Im not talking about having multiple games open :p |
| 00:03.45 | Taintedwisp_ | Imma do the WTE :P |
| 00:04.11 | Almaity | but just leaving sc2 open while you're using the editor so that you dont have to do the streaming check everytime |
| 00:04.40 | Taintedwisp_ | hmm |
| 00:04.43 | Taintedwisp_ | Ill try it out later then |
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| 00:08.03 | monkalizer | I have encountered a laptop related problem |
| 00:08.18 | monkalizer | i cant play starcraft with my laptop in bed |
| 00:08.39 | Almaity | is your power supply in? |
| 00:08.40 | monkalizer | somebody make a map concept that i can play with only touchpad, leftmouse and space button |
| 00:08.44 | Ahli | to warm? |
| 00:08.49 | Almaity | oh, thats what you mean |
| 00:08.55 | monkalizer | :) |
| 00:08.59 | Exaken | Use voice commands? |
| 00:09.01 | Exaken | :D |
| 00:09.01 | Ahli | I made a tetris stump |
| 00:09.08 | Ahli | check trigger challenge 5 |
| 00:09.45 | monkalizer | the game is useless while playing in this position |
| 00:10.21 | monkalizer | hm, or wait, i actually have a mod already that works |
| 00:10.32 | monkalizer | mouseclick events only |
| 00:22.42 | Blizz-Deletarius | have a good night everyone |
| 00:22.51 | Taintedwisp_ | cya |
| 00:22.54 | Exaken | Gn |
| 00:23.00 | Saeris | l8r |
| 00:38.47 | *** topic/#sc2mapster by Kaelten -> http://sc2mapster.com | sc2mapster bnet2 channel | HotS Beta has begun and 1.5 Arcade is FTW! | We want your broken maps! http://bit.ly/aU9AgC | Join #sc2replayed for SC2Replayed | This channel is logged, via purl |
| 00:40.44 | Exaken | ~test |
| 00:40.44 | purl | If you say tset I will not be happy |
| 00:40.54 | Exaken | ~tset |
| 00:40.54 | purl | Shut up. |
| 00:41.27 | Exaken | ~happy |
| 00:41.27 | purl | hmm... happy is stop smiling at me,i will force you to bear my hell spawn!! |
| 00:43.50 | Exaken | !zergit purl |
| 00:43.50 | Skizot | Mutapurlling |
| 00:45.40 | zlefin | getting 3 bases seems a little too easy atm |
| 00:47.10 | duckies_ | :/ |
| 00:48.08 | duckies_ | how do I make it so that once behavior is applied on unit from caster its duration cannot be overwritten/restoring by applying same behavior again? |
| 00:48.44 | Exaken | Disable the "refresh stack" option? |
| 00:50.08 | duckies_ | and how would I do that? |
| 00:50.25 | Exaken | It's a behavior flag |
| 00:50.56 | duckies_ | It's off by default |
| 00:51.04 | duckies_ | :| |
| 00:51.52 | Exaken | You could create a validator checking if the target already has the behavior |
| 00:52.58 | duckies_ | I'm starting to think that behaviors work differently from how I expect them to work |
| 00:53.48 | Ahli | how did you expect them to work? |
| 00:56.38 | duckies_ | So, I have a whirlwind ability, a persistent that searches infront of unit and applies "damage behavior" on targets. Damage behavior applies it's damage on inital, and lasts 0.125 sec fo that unit doesn't get hit multiple times from same damage scan. I thought that if I set caster stacks to 0 it would not update behavior duration when it's reapplied |
| 00:57.24 | duckies_ | and unit is hit by multiple whirlwinds behaviors from different casters wouldn't overlap and both do damage in applying |
| 00:57.29 | duckies_ | *if hit |
| 00:58.24 | duckies_ | at first I thought doing this with markers and no marker validator on damage, but behaviors seemed like a little bit less work |
| 00:58.47 | zlefin | one interceptor would be cute for nexus defense |
| 01:00.04 | duckies_ | late at night, my spelling is extra horrible, sorry :/ |
| 01:01.02 | zlefin | but too fragile; but i'm not sure i like the idea of shield battery on nexus; it might make harass too vulnerable |
| 01:01.13 | zlefin | which also raises the idea, should races all have an anti-harass method? |
| 01:04.41 | zlefin | also, swarm hosts are stil a terrible unit design |
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| 01:20.41 | DeadZergling | heh, wtf is all I got to say about this: http://youtu.be/BK6q9b57I0c |
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| 01:22.42 | Exaken | whaaa |
| 01:23.40 | Taintedwisp | Is Obama Wins we lose, if Romney wins We Lose.... |
| 01:23.41 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 01:23.57 | duckies_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:24.08 | Taintedwisp | japan sucks |
| 01:24.31 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 01:24.41 | Taintedwisp | Though their women.... the ones they portray are hot... |
| 01:24.50 | Taintedwisp | Thought he women we portray are above average too |
| 01:26.03 | duckies_ | I still remember seeing intro to katamari damacy and thinking that it was .. unique, but if their children are surrounded by such stuff from early ages, anything can come out of japan :D |
| 01:26.40 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 01:28.53 | duckies_ | still, japan is awesome |
| 01:29.31 | duckies_ | I learned that by watching this mans experience in it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-yyk3TJfAU |
| 01:32.28 | Taintedwisp | NOT 4 MORE, NOT 4 MORE, NOT 4 MORE!!! |
| 01:32.29 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 01:32.50 | Taintedwisp | Cant we just have 4 years without a president |
| 01:41.03 | zlefin | not really; |
| 01:41.08 | zlefin | the line of succession fo presidency is really long |
| 01:42.46 | DeadZergling | no matter how the election goes, we will end up with a mostly white president |
| 01:47.17 | zlefin | obama dont' look white to me |
| 01:49.00 | zlefin | i wish people would just wati for tomorrow to find out how it was |
| 01:49.51 | DeadZergling | I don't plan on keeping up with it any |
| 01:50.02 | DeadZergling | will find out after it is over |
| 02:07.43 | DeadZergling | Besides, I got the fun job of optimizing my stat updates as they are apparently causing crashes, lol |
| 03:38.56 | zlefin | it'd be nice if zerg was more able to function off of one base |
| 03:39.00 | zlefin | though it'd really change a lot of things |
| 03:41.13 | Ahli | zerg needs a lot of larva... so you need multiple hatcheries which can be build in expansions... |
| 03:42.14 | zlefin | that's why i'm wondering what it would be like if things were different |
| 03:42.29 | Ahli | why do lobbies ignore max team size? |
| 03:43.17 | zlefin | since if you need a hatch for macro, you may as well expand with it for the most part; and there's a lack of early/mid game crystal intensive uses |
| 03:43.47 | zlefin | it'd certainly be very different |
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| 04:40.58 | Taintedwisp | I HAD MY FIRST Full house game today :P |
| 04:40.59 | Taintedwisp | Was cool |
| 04:41.08 | Taintedwisp | great responses to several of the mechanics |
| 05:00.59 | Taintedwisp | Well this sucks I just learned I have direct competition with better abilties :P |
| 05:09.21 | Repo | New map: Test of Survival - Terran - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/test-survival-terran/ |
| 05:20.01 | zlefin | how's the balance? |
| 05:21.52 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 05:21.54 | Taintedwisp | My balance... |
| 05:22.11 | Taintedwisp | Well ACTUALLY the Spawned units alone are balanced Perfectly as intended except a few units |
| 05:22.22 | Taintedwisp | its very even, yet all 3 are different |
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| 06:35.11 | Taintedwisp | HEY dz |
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| 06:40.39 | DeadZergling | ??? |
| 06:46.55 | Taintedwisp | JUST HEY... |
| 06:46.57 | Taintedwisp | LOL |
| 06:47.07 | DeadZergling | enjoying the caps tonight I see |
| 06:47.13 | Taintedwisp | I did my first Public CLosed Beta today :P |
| 06:47.27 | Taintedwisp | Then learned that I might have some new Competition hhaa |
| 06:47.34 | Taintedwisp | but not really |
| 06:47.45 | Taintedwisp | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/team-recruitment/44953-starcraft-frenzy-looking-for-closed-beta-testers/#p2 |
| 06:48.05 | Taintedwisp | His Abilities that he shows are better thats for sure |
| 06:48.40 | DeadZergling | true, but he doesn't have your drive to finish abilities all the time |
| 06:48.47 | DeadZergling | oh wait, you only do those when you feel like it, lol |
| 06:49.27 | DeadZergling | anyways, my testers inform me that my map crashes them a lot |
| 06:49.41 | DeadZergling | so trying to optimize a few things, see if that makes a difference |
| 06:50.09 | DeadZergling | is very odd though, I can't get my map to crash on me, even when I put it through the most stressful situations |
| 06:52.25 | DeadZergling | how did you testing go, by the way? |
| 06:52.44 | Taintedwisp | AHAHAH |
| 06:53.06 | Taintedwisp | I have little drive because I dont know what the fuck i am doing :P |
| 06:53.20 | Taintedwisp | I am just putting together puzzle peices and hopeing they fit. |
| 06:53.38 | Taintedwisp | Sometimes pulling out the scissors to cut off parts ahaahaha\ |
| 06:53.54 | DeadZergling | is a tricky part of mapping huh |
| 06:54.01 | DeadZergling | I'm pretty good at knowing what should be on the box |
| 06:54.08 | DeadZergling | what pieces to use to achieve it, not so clear sometimes |
| 06:55.12 | Taintedwisp | seeing how Polished his abilities are discourages the hell outta me haha |
| 06:55.25 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1BqYxk_S1sM |
| 06:56.22 | DeadZergling | that's pretty clever for any game, really |
| 06:56.29 | Taintedwisp | Luckily his UI is bland compared to what mine will be :P |
| 06:56.39 | Taintedwisp | yeah i have to give him credit |
| 06:56.50 | Taintedwisp | I didnt even know that guy existed... |
| 06:57.02 | Taintedwisp | Thats like the 3rd project.... WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE LERANING FROM!!! |
| 07:00.52 | Taintedwisp | Wiat... |
| 07:01.05 | Taintedwisp | I wonder if thehelper.net is still active, come to think of it there are a lot of tutorials from there |
| 07:01.12 | Taintedwisp | Im just curious. |
| 07:02.00 | DeadZergling | really weird part is |
| 07:02.05 | DeadZergling | just seeing that ability once |
| 07:02.09 | DeadZergling | I know how to make it, lol |
| 07:06.09 | Taintedwisp | really? |
| 07:06.16 | Taintedwisp | without triggers? |
| 07:06.38 | DeadZergling | no, i'd def use triggers |
| 07:07.35 | Taintedwisp | :P |
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| 07:15.30 | Ahli | yay, I can crash sc2 with an ability queue |
| 07:15.54 | DeadZergling | lol, what? |
| 07:16.48 | Ahli | I think I know why |
| 07:16.54 | Ahli | the UI orders was empty |
| 07:17.16 | Ahli | so no waypoint drawing thing |
| 07:17.48 | DeadZergling | ah. i just been optimizing my stat updates |
| 07:18.48 | DeadZergling | apparently turbo clicking one stat crashes my testers, lol |
| 07:28.46 | Taintedwisp | Hey Ahli, any clue where these people I have never heard of are learning to use the editor? |
| 07:29.15 | Ahli | can you define "these people"? |
| 07:29.26 | Taintedwisp | I have looked on all the other major i guess you could call it, sites and there isnt much... |
| 07:29.37 | Taintedwisp | The mapping community is hurting much worse then ai thought |
| 07:29.42 | Ahli | browsing mapster I guess |
| 07:29.49 | Ahli | and figuring it out yourself |
| 07:29.53 | Taintedwisp | random people who are doing some pretty cool stuff hahah |
| 07:30.17 | Ahli | for example? |
| 07:31.35 | Taintedwisp | Heres the latest example :P |
| 07:31.35 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1BqYxk_S1sM |
| 07:33.38 | Taintedwisp | I'm just wandering if thers somewhere else I should be keeping my eye on so I can become a better editor |
| 07:34.19 | Ahli | hmm, no idea. I guess that person just understood the things in the editor |
| 07:34.47 | Taintedwisp | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:43.56 | Saeris | well that's cool |
| 07:44.13 | Saeris | should i want to pick up where i left off at gnomon, i can take the classes online next spring |
| 07:44.25 | Saeris | save myself from having to move back to fucking hollywood |
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| 07:50.07 | DeadZergling | that was a little random |
| 07:50.15 | DeadZergling | Hi Saeris, lol |
| 07:50.29 | Saeris | sup |
| 07:50.48 | DeadZergling | Not too much, just trying to resolve a supposed crashing issue |
| 07:50.57 | Saeris | ah |
| 07:51.12 | DeadZergling | yea, they claim turbo clicking a stat increase can cause it |
| 07:51.34 | DeadZergling | I can't reproduce it though, and I went on bnet and clicked the laggiest stat I could find on the class w/ the most updates |
| 07:51.38 | Saeris | weird |
| 07:51.51 | DeadZergling | oh well, I did optimize stat updating/saving |
| 07:52.22 | DeadZergling | if it crashes them now, it must be a different issue |
| 07:52.34 | Saeris | could be that they have a slow cpu? can't handle all the events being fired from them spam clicking |
| 07:52.43 | DeadZergling | never hurts to optimize things anyways |
| 07:52.47 | Saeris | dunno what that could be |
| 07:52.51 | DeadZergling | yea, I thought that too |
| 07:52.59 | DeadZergling | but one of the testers has a better computer than me |
| 07:53.06 | DeadZergling | so that idea is out the window |
| 07:53.43 | DeadZergling | would lag potential possibly increase for a guy playing out of australia though? |
| 07:54.01 | DeadZergling | who knows, it is optimized, doing that definitely doesn't hurt me |
| 07:54.06 | Saeris | well they would have a higher ping for sure |
| 07:54.16 | Saeris | but i dunno if that would cause a crash |
| 07:54.28 | DeadZergling | now it only updates every 5 seconds, if they did anything that needs an update |
| 07:54.38 | DeadZergling | instead of every time they do an action that could update it |
| 07:55.49 | DeadZergling | what bothers me is I can't crash myself |
| 07:56.01 | DeadZergling | so really surprising when I hear about these things |
| 07:57.00 | DeadZergling | how goes mapping for you saeris? |
| 07:57.33 | Saeris | slow since i haven't been working much lately, actually |
| 07:57.47 | Saeris | reserved my map name today, that's about it |
| 07:58.43 | DeadZergling | yea, not working on it definitely has a negative effect on progress, lol |
| 08:00.13 | Saeris | well i just moved back home a week ago and i've been absorbed in paying attention to politics most of today |
| 08:00.39 | Saeris | just been short on time to actually sit and think and try to get myself focused again |
| 08:00.59 | DeadZergling | not a whole lot of point in getting too worked up over politics, they are what they are |
| 08:01.14 | Saeris | it's over with now, so i can relax, lol |
| 08:01.37 | DeadZergling | yep, can look forward to 6 trillion more national debt |
| 08:04.05 | Saeris | i'm just gonna go with not getting worked up about politics. i'm satisfied with the results and happy that i can go back to focusing on my future now that my role in government is fulfilled for the time being |
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| 08:07.19 | DeadZergling | yea, I'll go back into not caring mode soon enough |
| 08:07.34 | DeadZergling | isn't worth the stress |
| 08:10.36 | Saeris | isn't much worth talking about now. from my experience it only serves to divide people, and that's not what we need to improve our community or advance our careers |
| 08:11.34 | DeadZergling | oh i dunno, could be fun to have a how much money do you make/religion/politics thread |
| 08:11.42 | DeadZergling | might get 2 sites out of it, lol |
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| 08:12.38 | DeadZergling | Know exactly what you mean though, it is very polarizing |
| 08:12.46 | DeadZergling | I don't talk anything important w/ coworkers |
| 08:14.13 | Saeris | i just think that it's in our best interest to focus on what matters to map making, and not have our opinions of each other's ability be skewed by political or religious beliefs. |
| 08:16.26 | DeadZergling | staring at the roaches abilities |
| 08:16.31 | DeadZergling | errr, animations |
| 08:16.39 | DeadZergling | is actually a pretty damn cool unit, lol |
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| 08:24.25 | DeadZergling | by the way, what field controls a units movement priority, so like one unit can't push another out of the way? |
| 08:25.02 | Saeris | um |
| 08:25.09 | DeadZergling | nevermind, it is push apparently |
| 08:25.12 | Saeris | think there's specifically a push priority field |
| 08:32.17 | Saeris | welp, back to workin on this unit wizard mockup i guess |
| 08:32.23 | Saeris | got a long way to go yet |
| 08:32.30 | DeadZergling | hehe okay, I'm happy w/ making my treant units better |
| 08:32.51 | Saeris | determined to make as detailed a pitch for this as i can |
| 08:32.53 | DeadZergling | they wobbled all over the place, were ridiculously obvious that they werent trees |
| 08:32.56 | DeadZergling | now they are sneakier |
| 08:33.13 | Saeris | if only to prove fockewulf's version to be worthless, lol |
| 08:33.33 | DeadZergling | it'd be a good tool for former wc3 editors i imagine |
| 08:34.13 | Saeris | would be nice just to streamline the object creation and filling out important common fields quickly |
| 08:34.41 | Saeris | i'm sure the data navigator could do it better should they decide to make it a full on node graph |
| 08:34.56 | Saeris | because really the problem is making all the objects and linking them together properly |
| 08:35.07 | Saeris | not so much modifying values like move speed |
| 08:36.23 | Saeris | after i get this wizard mockup done, i needa go through all the data types and identify what are the most commonly modified fields so those can be better pointed out to players |
| 08:36.37 | Saeris | and hopefully identify which ones need documentation the most |
| 08:37.44 | Saeris | wc3 was easier simply because there was less information to learn and usually only one object to modify. much easier to memorize and keep track of |
| 08:38.00 | Saeris | whole system now is just too much for people to wrap their heads around |
| 08:41.11 | DeadZergling | aye, i came straight from BW editor |
| 08:41.28 | DeadZergling | so you know I was confused, lol |
| 08:48.16 | Saeris | radius tooltips suck |
| 08:48.38 | Saeris | raidus at which the unit interacts with other units or structures? that only barely makes sense |
| 08:51.16 | Saeris | more like: Distance that controls how close this unit can come into contanct with another unit/structure. |
| 08:52.37 | Saeris | maybe even addL Setting this value too low could cause this unit to appear to intersect (clip) with other units/structures. |
| 08:53.28 | Saeris | I think that does a much better job of describing how this field affects the unit |
| 08:55.30 | DeadZergling | aye, a lot of tooltips suck the big one |
| 08:56.04 | Saeris | also Plane Array isn't really a 'movement' field, it's a combat field, since it determines how the unit is targeted by attacks |
| 08:56.56 | Saeris | confusing because that field has no affect on collision for pathing/movement |
| 09:07.47 | DeadZergling | speaking of confusing things, for some reason a lower cliff into nothingness registers as no pathing, not a lower cliff level |
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| 10:30.35 | shawn | It its no pathing dz |
| 10:30.39 | shawn | it is* |
| 10:30.56 | shawn | :) |
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| 10:44.51 | DeadZergling | right, but this causes issues when trying to make missiles that don't shoot through everything |
| 10:45.30 | DeadZergling | you would expect to be able to easily shoot a missile across a canyon |
| 10:45.36 | DeadZergling | but not through a rock |
| 10:45.54 | DeadZergling | to make it not shoot through a rock, it has the unfortunate side effect of not traveling through valleys anymore either |
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| 12:29.20 | shawn | Anyone have a suggestion on how to balance a 6-player map while only being one person myself? |
| 12:30.37 | shawn | I can either set it up for one player and then multiply by 6.. or I can just multiply myself by 6 and hope it turns out ok, but neither option seems likely to produce great results |
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| 12:52.32 | Zolden | get a time machine, gather 5 more you from other periods of time, balance with them, try not to ruin space-time continium |
| 13:14.12 | Ahli | any way to get locked team size to actually work? |
| 13:14.41 | Ahli | setting max team size to 5 doesn't seem to work. I can move slots into the other team in lobby |
| 13:14.45 | TheSkunk__ | You have to not allow people to switch teams.. gahh I forget the setting |
| 13:15.02 | Ahli | people can't switch teams, the host can |
| 13:15.10 | TheSkunk__ | I know |
| 13:15.19 | TheSkunk__ | I could be wrong |
| 13:15.21 | Ahli | well... I want him to be able to do that |
| 13:15.25 | TheSkunk__ | Oh |
| 13:15.30 | TheSkunk__ | Well I think you're screwed then |
| 13:15.31 | Ahli | just not mooving slots into other teams |
| 13:15.48 | Ahli | I hope they fix all the bnet fail bugs |
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| 13:16.26 | TheSkunk__ | I was wrestling with the same thing; I thought I found a solution.. |
| 13:17.25 | TheSkunk__ | dag nab |
| 13:17.32 | TheSkunk__ | I think I only have HotS on this computer :P |
| 13:17.59 | Ahli | I think they leave 1.5 UI buggy until hots UI releases |
| 13:24.20 | shawn | You can get the new editor, just not the new assets |
| 13:25.35 | shawn | Then again, doesnt help |
| 13:25.37 | shawn | Whtaev |
| 13:28.10 | shawn | Ya, I must be tired because that had nothing to do with what you guys were saying |
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| 13:37.19 | Bommes | What data field controls how long an actor death model lies around before disappearing? |
| 13:37.22 | Bommes | Mainly the new ragdoll ones |
| 13:37.39 | Bommes | I could swear I saw a data value for that at some point |
| 13:42.05 | Bommes | the Stats: Death Time unit value doesn't do anything for the actors appearing/disappearing, does it? |
| 13:45.39 | Ahli | I would guess no |
| 13:45.50 | Ahli | unless marine has a value greater 0 there |
| 13:49.00 | shawn | the death model's events+ is the only thing i could see that might be it |
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| 13:57.12 | TheSkunk__ | Alright, on the comp that has the map I think I got it working on |
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| 13:59.22 | TheSkunk__ | Ahli, it looks like I have it set up with "locked teams" checked, but "locked on team" for each player NOT checked |
| 13:59.28 | TheSkunk__ | what do you have it set as? |
| 14:00.46 | Dustin|Work | Morning! |
| 14:01.04 | TheSkunk__ | And yeah, it lets me move around on teams |
| 14:01.09 | TheSkunk__ | but the teams stay the right size |
| 14:01.12 | TheSkunk__ | Morning Dustin! |
| 14:01.31 | Ahli | locked teams checked, team is none |
| 14:01.37 | TheSkunk__ | Oh |
| 14:01.46 | TheSkunk__ | I set however many players I want to be on each team |
| 14:01.51 | Ahli | what are your team? |
| 14:01.55 | TheSkunk__ | to the team I want them to be on |
| 14:01.59 | TheSkunk__ | under player attributes |
| 14:02.15 | TheSkunk__ | Ie I have it locked to 3v2 |
| 14:02.17 | Ahli | they can still be changed? |
| 14:02.21 | TheSkunk__ | yeah |
| 14:02.25 | TheSkunk__ | you can move around |
| 14:02.29 | TheSkunk__ | between teams in the lobby |
| 14:02.30 | Dustin|Work | You can move? :D |
| 14:03.12 | Ahli | that dropdown doesn't like arrow keys |
| 14:03.21 | TheSkunk__ | I have no idea why it works like this, by the way |
| 14:03.45 | TheSkunk__ | But after much frustration I got it working how I wanted.. so yay |
| 14:04.42 | TheSkunk__ | Annoyingly, though, if you have two different game variants |
| 14:04.50 | TheSkunk__ | the second one screws up every time you open and close the editor |
| 14:04.51 | TheSkunk__ | =/ |
| 14:05.30 | Ahli | I've 3 :X |
| 14:05.35 | TheSkunk__ | yeah |
| 14:05.51 | TheSkunk__ | I just have a comment to my self saying "reset variants before publishing" |
| 14:05.59 | TheSkunk__ | and let them screw up all other times -_- |
| 14:06.27 | TheSkunk__ | Maybe thats just me, though, no guarantee it will screw up for you.. |
| 14:11.33 | TheSkunk__ | If I'm remembering correctly (its been a while) you still have to set max team size to whatever you want the max time size to be, too |
| 14:11.48 | TheSkunk__ | or else they can still drag them over >_> |
| 14:20.33 | Ahli | I've set the max team size properly |
| 14:21.46 | TheSkunk__ | Still doesn't work? |
| 14:24.27 | Ahli | don't know |
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| 15:12.02 | ThunderLord | Hey I am looking to add some closed beta testers to my mod. http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/team-recruitment/44953-starcraft-frenzy-looking-for-closed-beta-testers/#p2 if anyone is interested... |
| 15:13.48 | Dustin|Work | IS it cool |
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| 15:13.57 | ThunderLord | Oh it is extremely cool |
| 15:14.46 | Dustin|Work | Hmm, I gotta fill out an app? |
| 15:14.51 | Dustin|Work | To much time! |
| 15:14.55 | ThunderLord | or just tell me |
| 15:15.04 | ThunderLord | if ur in this chat |
| 15:15.08 | ThunderLord | ur qualified |
| 15:15.09 | ThunderLord | lol |
| 15:16.24 | ThunderLord | if you are interested, you can just PM me your Starcraft username and say that you are interested, we would love to have you |
| 15:16.52 | Dustin|Work | Dustin.374 |
| 15:16.55 | Dustin|Work | :D |
| 15:18.22 | Dustin|Work | brb stepping out for a smoke break |
| 15:22.08 | ThunderLord | Awesome!!! Ill put you on the roster, and let you know when the next Closed Beta Test is |
| 15:22.58 | yaks | I have this side-project I am working on. Its premise is survival-horror Single-player with multiplayer unlocked after the first playthrough. I would like to get the terrain and story set in stone as I work on it. If you’re interested in helping me out, PM yaksmanofage back in the forum. |
| 15:23.49 | Dustin|Work | kk! sounds good :D |
| 15:24.35 | Blizz-Deletarius | morning |
| 15:24.41 | Dustin|Work | Mornin dele |
| 15:24.44 | TheSkunk__ | Morning, Delete |
| 15:24.45 | yaks | Hello. |
| 15:24.56 | Blizz-Deletarius | been in for a bit, had to go through my facebooks |
| 15:25.06 | Dustin|Work | ThunderLord, if you ever need any help with the systems or data in the map let me know as well |
| 15:25.48 | ThunderLord | And sometime, with your permission, i would like to get your battle.net handle so we can add it to the game so it will recognize you as a Closed Beta tester/Moderator, that way u will have access to certain testing commands, And the game will say "Moderator" after ur name on the leaderboard |
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| 15:26.24 | ckSynergy | morning |
| 15:26.28 | ckSynergy | anyone here have the hots editor? |
| 15:26.31 | ThunderLord | And yeah, for sure, after the first time you play it i would like to hear what you think and if you would like to help with it |
| 15:26.47 | Blizz-Deletarius | I do ckSynergy :O |
| 15:26.59 | ckSynergy | lol. morning deletarius |
| 15:26.59 | yaks | I wish. The new physics engine looks awesome. |
| 15:27.01 | ThunderLord | Me 2! ITS AMAZING! |
| 15:27.12 | yaks | ;D |
| 15:27.19 | Dustin|Work | I do CK, but im at work atm :) |
| 15:27.22 | ckSynergy | Can someone take a peak in the data module? |
| 15:27.27 | Blizz-Deletarius | for what? |
| 15:27.37 | yaks | I was about to say.... |
| 15:27.55 | ckSynergy | Need to know what "Effect->Create Unit->Select Unit" target filters do |
| 15:28.05 | Blizz-Deletarius | ah |
| 15:28.25 | ckSynergy | Ive been curious about that for ages lol |
| 15:28.30 | Blizz-Deletarius | well, I'm still getting the latest version of the editor, so won't be for a few mins |
| 15:28.40 | Blizz-Deletarius | afk for about 4-5 mins |
| 15:28.59 | ckSynergy | lol deletarius |
| 15:29.08 | ckSynergy | k |
| 15:29.57 | ThunderLord | Ill pull it up |
| 15:30.25 | ThunderLord | oh, gotta update Starcraft on this computer |
| 15:31.10 | ThunderLord | so ill pull it up in about 3 min lol |
| 15:33.55 | ckSynergy | lol |
| 15:33.57 | Blizz-Deletarius | back |
| 15:34.02 | ckSynergy | wow bunch of nerd teases here today lol |
| 15:35.14 | ckSynergy | wb deletarius |
| 15:36.18 | Blizz-Deletarius | so where is this thing you're looking for info on? |
| 15:36.41 | ckSynergy | data module, effects tab, create unit effect, field: select unit |
| 15:37.22 | Blizz-Deletarius | CEffectCreateUnit? |
| 15:37.23 | ckSynergy | it's a target filter, so Its grabbing something from a previous effect branch, I just want to know what lol |
| 15:37.26 | ckSynergy | yes |
| 15:37.28 | Blizz-Deletarius | ok |
| 15:37.30 | Blizz-Deletarius | sec |
| 15:37.54 | Blizz-Deletarius | If this resolves to a unit and that unit is selected, then the newly created unit will also be selected. The created unit may also be added to control groups if the Select Control Groups create flag is set. |
| 15:38.03 | ckSynergy | Effect: CEffectCreateUnit_SelectUnit +:Unknown |
| 15:38.15 | Blizz-Deletarius | :) |
| 15:38.33 | Blizz-Deletarius | hope that helps |
| 15:38.35 | ckSynergy | ohhhh new flags |
| 15:38.41 | ckSynergy | yea thats awesome |
| 15:38.47 | ckSynergy | does it work in 1.5? |
| 15:38.54 | Blizz-Deletarius | one of the new tooltips Tenarsis and I put in :) |
| 15:39.06 | Blizz-Deletarius | I have absolutely no idea |
| 15:39.39 | ckSynergy | lets test and see |
| 15:39.41 | ckSynergy | :D |
| 15:39.42 | ckSynergy | <3 you guys |
| 15:39.44 | Blizz-Deletarius | :) |
| 15:39.51 | Blizz-Deletarius | good man |
| 15:39.53 | Blizz-Deletarius | see |
| 15:39.59 | ThunderLord | thats pretty cool |
| 15:40.01 | Blizz-Deletarius | when people ask if something works |
| 15:40.14 | ckSynergy | I had a feeling thats what it did, but I couldnt get it to work lol |
| 15:40.15 | Blizz-Deletarius | my followup question is usually always "have you tried?" |
| 15:40.32 | Dustin|Work | Trying is for noobs! |
| 15:40.34 | Dustin|Work | hehe |
| 15:40.35 | ckSynergy | lol |
| 15:40.44 | ckSynergy | I only ask because someone may have tried before me |
| 15:40.52 | Blizz-Deletarius | man, need to find some better Visio stencils :| |
| 15:40.56 | ckSynergy | "I have tried it" is a perfectly acceptable answer lol |
| 15:41.05 | Blizz-Deletarius | how come there's so many awesome ones for Omnigraffle but not visio |
| 15:41.16 | Bommes | Blizz-Deletarius: Do you know what determines whether or not a model takes part in ragdoll collisions? As in if a ragdoll death actor flies around it will collide and slide off of a nexus or other multiplayer structures, but it will just clip/fly through other actors. |
| 15:41.22 | Bommes | Is that a thing that can only be fixed by editing the models? |
| 15:41.41 | Blizz-Deletarius | uhhh |
| 15:41.46 | Blizz-Deletarius | I personally don't |
| 15:41.53 | Blizz-Deletarius | sorry |
| 15:42.00 | Bommes | ok no problem :) |
| 15:42.06 | Bommes | I just wondered |
| 15:42.14 | ThunderLord | Does anyone know how to make Cone Shaped AoE Splashes? or know of a map that uses them? |
| 15:42.28 | ckSynergy | BAHAHAH IT WORKS! NICE! |
| 15:43.09 | Dustin|Work | I dont even know if data cones are an option |
| 15:43.25 | ThunderLord | since 1.5 you could support Line type stuff |
| 15:43.30 | ThunderLord | like the Raynor Penetrator round |
| 15:43.47 | Dustin|Work | Yeah, it might be added in for cone |
| 15:43.53 | Dustin|Work | I seem to kinda remember something about it |
| 15:44.26 | ThunderLord | MAybe a way to do like 2 Line type ones with angular offsets to kinda look like a cone |
| 15:45.03 | ThunderLord | idk, i know there were alll kinda of cool splashes in the Blizzard Dota 2011 showcase |
| 15:45.28 | Dustin|Work | Im sure Blizz Dota will add support for that type of thing |
| 15:45.44 | Dustin|Work | Cause a cone is kind of a necessity for hero arenas like that |
| 15:45.57 | ThunderLord | Well they already added support for line type, so i figured that cones might already be in there |
| 15:46.01 | Ahli | I'm using a line for that atm :S |
| 15:46.04 | ThunderLord | but whatever |
| 15:46.06 | ThunderLord | yeh |
| 15:46.11 | Dustin|Work | You could do multiple lines |
| 15:46.13 | Dustin|Work | And an angle |
| 15:46.19 | ThunderLord | is that possible? |
| 15:46.19 | Ahli | if we had a cone model we could scale it appropriate |
| 15:46.26 | ThunderLord | YEAH |
| 15:46.30 | ThunderLord | I WANT A CONE MODEL |
| 15:46.33 | Ahli | I'm not sure |
| 15:46.38 | ThunderLord | and a better line model for that matter |
| 15:46.50 | Dustin|Work | Triceron, make us some models! |
| 15:46.57 | ThunderLord | 4PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ! |
| 15:46.57 | Ahli | hmm. should be possible with site operations rotating it |
| 15:47.07 | Dustin|Work | Aww I don't think he's here |
| 15:47.20 | ThunderLord | PLLLLLLLLEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!! |
| 15:48.47 | Dustin|Work | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/data/28892-ability-help-custom-ability-to-target-in-a-cone/ |
| 15:48.53 | Dustin|Work | There's some info about cones |
| 15:49.07 | Dustin|Work | Might check out Kuekens map |
| 15:51.00 | ThunderLord | cool |
| 15:51.01 | ThunderLord | thanks |
| 15:51.06 | ThunderLord | checking it out now |
| 15:53.09 | ThunderLord | Oh yeah, that is pretty cool! works good |
| 15:53.22 | ThunderLord | someone should still make a cone model tho |
| 15:54.30 | yaks | Just letting everyone know I am getting off the computer for quite a while so if you PM me about my little map offer back there I won't get back to you until night time. |
| 15:54.34 | Dustin|Work | Yeah, we might be able to convince Triceron when he gets here |
| 15:55.13 | ThunderLord | That would be awesome |
| 16:08.01 | Bommes | Blizz-Deletarius: Ok, I think I found the thing that determines the physics collision thing... The model has to have specific bones set up as part of the "physics bodies" which you can look up in the model data. |
| 16:08.31 | Blizz-Deletarius | gotcha |
| 16:08.32 | Bommes | So I think its not possible to configure that outside of a 3D modeling program. |
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| 16:11.39 | Ahli | hex editor and a lot of apes on typewriters can do it, too |
| 16:12.49 | Dustin|Work | Oh I remember hex editing sc1 to get new colors |
| 16:12.55 | Dustin|Work | Was sweet shit |
| 16:13.20 | Ahli | scmdraft? |
| 16:13.26 | Ahli | or did you do that before that? |
| 16:13.39 | Dustin|Work | Before that |
| 16:13.59 | Dustin|Work | This was back before we even had modified editors |
| 16:14.36 | Dustin|Work | Wow those days sucked and kicked ass at the same time lol |
| 16:14.42 | Ahli | was way before my mapmaking time ;D |
| 16:15.17 | Dustin|Work | We didn't even have variables in SC1 |
| 16:15.35 | Dustin|Work | Once we figured out we could use Death Counters as simi variables, omg my mind was blown |
| 16:15.42 | Dustin|Work | BLOWNNN |
| 16:15.51 | Ahli | I know. I've legitimately hit the trigger limit for save games in my last scbw project |
| 16:16.10 | Ahli | and then copying death counters, math with death counters :D |
| 16:16.15 | Ahli | hypertriggers |
| 16:16.44 | Ahli | EUDs (extended unit deaths) to write in memory |
| 16:16.51 | Ahli | then Blizzard patched that |
| 16:17.12 | Dustin|Work | I miss EUD's |
| 16:17.15 | Dustin|Work | That was a fun while |
| 16:17.32 | Ahli | hmm, which were the most recent groundbreaking accomplishments... direct damage system with scarabs |
| 16:17.55 | Ahli | you could do something like dealing a variable amount of damage to a unit with that |
| 16:18.15 | Dustin|Work | I dont think I ever messed with Scarabs |
| 16:18.31 | Ahli | hmm, now it was figured out more what extended units do... to do things we did with EUDs before |
| 16:18.35 | Dustin|Work | I made a Turn Based system in SCBW using shuttles and dropships as Menus/inventorys |
| 16:20.08 | Ahli | hmm, preplaced hallucinated powerups picke dup by a worker turn to the last created unit I think |
| 16:20.13 | Ahli | something like that |
| 16:20.34 | Ahli | when they vanish |
| 16:21.02 | Dustin|Work | Oh really? |
| 16:21.05 | Dustin|Work | Thats interesting |
| 16:21.08 | Ahli | yes |
| 16:29.27 | Ahli | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWV2tLFsbZc |
| 16:29.40 | Ahli | you can pick up a marine with that, too |
| 16:29.50 | Ahli | and move it around and I think it fires |
| 16:30.26 | Dustin|Work | Yeah they discovered how to write straight to the editor code after I stoped messing with SCbw |
| 16:30.33 | Dustin|Work | Wish we would have had that back then |
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| 16:32.52 | Dustin|Work | Skizot |
| 16:35.50 | Ahli | wow... bnet added 2 non existing game modes to my map |
| 16:36.45 | Dustin|Work | lol wha |
| 16:37.03 | Ahli | oh no, it's the game modes x2 |
| 16:37.09 | Ahli | it duplicated them |
| 16:37.28 | Ahli | and switching to 5vs5 doesn't work in the lobby... |
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| 16:38.07 | Ahli | bot 5vs5 modes are buggy, if selected, if you had a 3vs3 or 4vs4 chosen before |
| 16:40.21 | Ahli | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7004015250#2 rotidecs should have answered that he should add a check, if the current trigger is activated or disabled |
| 16:40.43 | Ahli | check that is executed in an if-then-else |
| 16:41.24 | Ahli | at least I think that's what I did when I started mapping in beta |
| 16:43.38 | Dustin|Work | Damn, today is going super slow |
| 16:45.22 | monkalizer | well, we are here to entertain you with youtube links and difficylt questions |
| 16:50.04 | Ahli | TheSkunk__, it worked. :D |
| 16:50.45 | hobbidude | anyway to check if a unit has started or is morphing? |
| 16:55.10 | Ahli | current order is the morphing ability? |
| 16:55.13 | TheSkunk__ | Good :P |
| 16:55.24 | TheSkunk__ | IRRC it does still have some issues, though.. |
| 16:55.44 | TheSkunk__ | like switching between variants if different variants have a different number of players |
| 16:56.25 | Ahli | do keyboard press events work for spectators? |
| 16:56.43 | Dustin|Work | Ive never tried coding anything for spectators |
| 16:57.22 | Ahli | I've tweaked a few things in my map for spectators |
| 16:57.50 | Ahli | like they can press some buttons of computers and left players |
| 16:58.02 | Dustin|Work | I mean technically you should be able to get when they press a key |
| 16:58.41 | Dustin|Work | Would be cool to use that FreeCam Lib with spectators |
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| 17:07.17 | Taintedwisp | mittens lost |
| 17:07.20 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 17:09.09 | Taintedwisp | oay since obama got his 2nd term... lets make some bets... When will be americans 2nd civil war? |
| 17:09.26 | Taintedwisp | and when will the new world order come.... |
| 17:10.53 | Taintedwisp | Oh dont be fooled, I thought Mittens would have killed us otoo |
| 17:10.55 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 17:11.11 | Taintedwisp | I just think it would have taken him an extra couple years |
| 17:12.33 | monkalizer | uuh please no election talk. I was working alone today and had the radio as company. The entire day was dedicated to election jokes/analyses. |
| 17:12.53 | monkalizer | And I live in sweden! |
| 17:13.17 | monkalizer | they had a discussion about body hair and penises, but the rest of it was election |
| 17:15.13 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 17:19.11 | Taintedwisp | awww but monkalizer i had a good one... |
| 17:19.12 | Taintedwisp | :( |
| 17:19.22 | Blizz-Deletarius | all I have to say about last night's election |
| 17:19.36 | Taintedwisp | blizzard should make the next diablo expansion about obama :P |
| 17:19.36 | monkalizer | argh |
| 17:20.27 | Blizz-Deletarius | http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s12e12-about-last-night |
| 17:20.42 | Blizz-Deletarius | ^ that's what I have to say about the election last night |
| 17:20.52 | Taintedwisp | I forget who said it, But the truth is, america can never have a great leader, because a good man couldnt go through the political bull shit required :P |
| 17:21.17 | Blizz-Deletarius | although supposedly there's gonna be a new obama wins southpark tonight |
| 17:21.30 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 17:21.47 | Taintedwisp | meh, It was the shinest of two turds... :P |
| 17:21.53 | Taintedwisp | it was gunna be shit either way |
| 17:22.06 | Blizz-Deletarius | rather defeatist attitude there tainted |
| 17:22.22 | Taintedwisp | I was going to vote, I was actually really excited to vote... but then i saw who was running |
| 17:22.28 | Taintedwisp | I hated Romney and obama... |
| 17:22.36 | Taintedwisp | and all 3 3rd party candidates |
| 17:23.05 | Taintedwisp | I was honestly going to drive the 20 miles to vote for Myself, or bugs bunny as a write in, but I couldnt afford to waste the gas |
| 17:23.20 | monkalizer | who can you vote on that is not one of the big two parties? Is there a third party? |
| 17:23.22 | Taintedwisp | all we can do is hope he does good. |
| 17:23.56 | Taintedwisp | There is 3rd party candidates... |
| 17:24.05 | monkalizer | most important seems to be to get over this fiscal cliff thing |
| 17:24.26 | monkalizer | otherwise it will be lemmings all over |
| 17:24.30 | Taintedwisp | Really the problem is you have to be a billionaire to run.. haha |
| 17:24.51 | monkalizer | Trump for president! (not) |
| 17:25.03 | Taintedwisp | dFUCK THAT |
| 17:25.28 | Taintedwisp | I would be content without any republicans or any democrats in office... It would be best if everyone ran on their own merit |
| 17:26.03 | Taintedwisp | Though thinking about it... little would be accomplished |
| 17:26.04 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 17:26.46 | Taintedwisp | haha, not really defeated Deleterius, more ashamed to be an american, that we allowed either of those idiots into office, one saying fuck 47% of the country and the other is just the left wings bush |
| 17:27.02 | Blizz-Deletarius | welp |
| 17:27.09 | Blizz-Deletarius | not getting into this conversation ;) |
| 17:27.18 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 17:27.24 | Taintedwisp | Yeah I need to get to mapping ne ways:P |
| 17:27.45 | Taintedwisp | Hey deletarius are there any other major mapping sites I need to know? so I can further my skills |
| 17:27.58 | Taintedwisp | Mapster nor Galaxywiki.net have the things I want to learn about abilities |
| 17:28.01 | Blizz-Deletarius | hiveworkshop, mapster |
| 17:28.07 | Blizz-Deletarius | galaxywiki |
| 17:28.09 | Blizz-Deletarius | etc |
| 17:28.17 | Taintedwisp | hmm went to all 3 of those |
| 17:28.22 | Taintedwisp | hive and galaxy is pretty much dead |
| 17:28.25 | Blizz-Deletarius | there you go |
| 17:28.43 | monkalizer | youtube |
| 17:28.50 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1BqYxk_S1sM |
| 17:28.53 | Taintedwisp | Still love that |
| 17:28.57 | Taintedwisp | hah |
| 17:29.43 | Taintedwisp | http://www.facebook.com/SC2Frenzy Pretty cool amount of polish put into that. |
| 17:29.55 | Taintedwisp | his heroes are more polished then mine :( |
| 17:29.57 | Taintedwisp | aha |
| 17:32.46 | Taintedwisp | LOL that calldown nuke ability :P |
| 17:34.36 | Dustin|Work | I just signed up with him to be a beta tester for that hehe |
| 17:35.00 | Taintedwisp | hahaa |
| 17:35.01 | Taintedwisp | OHH |
| 17:35.10 | Taintedwisp | thats right i have to fill out an application still |
| 17:35.32 | Taintedwisp | I was talking to him over FB last night, he seems like a friendly dude |
| 17:35.40 | Dustin|Work | Ya def |
| 17:35.52 | Dustin|Work | Was in here this morning |
| 17:36.48 | Taintedwisp | http://www.facebook.com/EvoFrenzyUnited |
| 17:36.56 | Taintedwisp | Oh i made a facebook page :P |
| 17:39.14 | Taintedwisp | HMM WHY IS MY EDITOR DOING THIS IS BUGGING HT HELL OUTT AME |
| 17:41.40 | Taintedwisp | THERE WE GO |
| 17:41.52 | Taintedwisp | So if You set the lighting to none it looks WERID AS HELL!! |
| 17:45.10 | Taintedwisp | oh hes still in here, just noticed |
| 17:45.14 | Taintedwisp | Hey Thunderlord |
| 17:52.07 | Dustin|Work | Wee lunch |
| 17:52.11 | Taintedwisp | There I filled out the application, Answering nearly every question Obliquely haha |
| 17:52.28 | Dustin|Work | I just told him to let me beta test :P |
| 17:52.47 | Taintedwisp | hah |
| 17:53.04 | Taintedwisp | I only half answered any question, and even said I make no promises... lol |
| 17:53.19 | Taintedwisp | Ill help him test, and then tell himwhat I think after the game is over or during |
| 17:53.43 | Taintedwisp | .but I wont sit there and fill out surveys haah |
| 17:54.23 | Taintedwisp | hmmmm |
| 17:58.28 | Taintedwisp | HMMMMMM |
| 18:13.32 | *** join/#sc2mapster Triceron (1854e5d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.84.229.210) |
| 18:13.47 | Taintedwisp | Hey Triceron |
| 18:14.05 | Taintedwisp | You making me that Firelion with two icewolf heads and an acid Snake tail right? |
| 18:14.18 | Triceron | yep working on it right now |
| 18:14.20 | Taintedwisp | with full animations |
| 18:14.20 | Triceron | in fact |
| 18:14.27 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 18:14.28 | Triceron | was hoping you'd mention it |
| 18:14.29 | Taintedwisp | whats up |
| 18:14.36 | Triceron | ugh, lots of work -_- |
| 18:14.40 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 18:15.38 | Taintedwisp | hey I had the first closed beta test last night of my map. |
| 18:15.45 | Triceron | which one |
| 18:15.51 | Triceron | evofrenzy or mini chop |
| 18:15.59 | Taintedwisp | EvoFrenzy |
| 18:16.12 | Triceron | nice, how'd that go |
| 18:16.12 | Taintedwisp | the spawned units balance worked out really well |
| 18:16.19 | Taintedwisp | The heroes were a bit OP |
| 18:16.20 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 18:16.26 | Triceron | op can be good |
| 18:16.32 | Dustin|Work | Triceron |
| 18:16.34 | Taintedwisp | Until a certain teir came up then they were UP |
| 18:16.34 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 18:16.35 | Triceron | 'meta strategy' |
| 18:16.41 | Zolden | Triceron hey, I have a uestion, can we somehow force texture to affect mesh as a modifier - to create normal map related to the picture of texture? |
| 18:17.12 | Taintedwisp | Hes trying to make a love slave hahah |
| 18:17.18 | Taintedwisp | hes creepy like that |
| 18:17.37 | Triceron | you want to create a normal map based on the diffuse texture is what I'm getting at right Zolden? Like if you had stripes and you wanted those stripes to be indented or popped out |
| 18:17.51 | Zolden | yeah |
| 18:18.02 | Triceron | okay there's a couple programs that can do that for you |
| 18:18.12 | Zolden | not 3ds max? |
| 18:18.17 | Triceron | not 3ds max |
| 18:18.25 | Zolden | ok, what program would you use? |
| 18:18.38 | Triceron | a plugin for Photoshop, or a 3rd party program like Crazy Bump or Xnormal |
| 18:19.04 | Triceron | what it does is convert a regular texture file into normal map |
| 18:19.29 | Zolden | does it look ugly? |
| 18:20.03 | Triceron | it can work with colored maps, but keep in mind that it only uses grayscale for height information. You might as well desaturate your map before working |
| 18:20.04 | Taintedwisp | looks like your mother in a way....so take that however :P |
| 18:20.17 | Triceron | you'll have to test, but it depends on the amount of detail in your diffuse texture |
| 18:20.28 | Taintedwisp | okay thats enough trolling from me, back to work |
| 18:20.29 | Triceron | this type of conversion is not so great if you have a lot of gradient |
| 18:20.40 | Zolden | what method do you use to have diffuse and normal maps work together? |
| 18:20.45 | Triceron | but if you have a lot of solid line design it can work really well |
| 18:21.35 | Triceron | so if you have like panel lines that you want on a unit, draw it out on a separate layer in photoshop as black lines. Then you just take a white background with those dark lines and you can run it through the photoshop plugins or Xnormal |
| 18:22.07 | Zolden | ok, I'll try Xnormal |
| 18:22.49 | Triceron | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/Triceron/Commando_Breakdown.jpg |
| 18:23.09 | Zolden | but actually I thought about a modifier which would affect a mesh to than create a normal map from it, because is still need to maintain geometry-related normal map |
| 18:23.16 | Triceron | I used a normal map generated from the diffuse for this unit. Kinda hard to see the details cuz of the image size, but you can get an idea of the results |
| 18:23.46 | Zolden | looks pretty good |
| 18:24.06 | Triceron | if you have a regular geo-based normal map |
| 18:24.26 | Triceron | I usually still generate a Diffuse-based one for the details, and then use it as 'Overlay' blending mode in Photoshop |
| 18:24.39 | *** join/#sc2mapster Bibendus (~Bibendus@ip-80-249-36-63.static.adsl.cheapnet.it) |
| 18:24.41 | Zolden | ok, I'll try |
| 18:24.42 | Triceron | it just pops some added details into your geo-based normals |
| 18:25.04 | *** join/#sc2mapster zlefin (~zlefin@pool-173-48-173-195.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 18:25.06 | Triceron | you have to make sure the diffuse one isn't too 'noisy', cuz again it doesn't handle gradients very well |
| 18:25.29 | zlefin | is blizz allstars gonna be playable without hots? |
| 18:25.40 | Zolden | so, I just put my diffuse map into Xnormal and it gives me what I need or first I have to desaturate it, maybe increase contrast? |
| 18:25.49 | Taintedwisp | yes Zlefin |
| 18:26.05 | Taintedwisp | its also going to be playable without WoL |
| 18:26.08 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 18:26.46 | Taintedwisp | COME ONLINE VAILRETH!!!!!!!!! PSYCHIC POWERS ACTIVATE!!!! |
| 18:26.47 | Taintedwisp | hah |
| 18:27.16 | Taintedwisp | ~seen Soulcarverr |
| 18:27.25 | purl | soulcarverr <c696b72c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.150.183.44> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 1d 17h 35m 27s ago, saying: 'later ppls'. |
| 18:27.25 | Triceron | Blizz Allstars will likely be playable without HOTS, considering they're aiming for it to be free to play even with a Starter Edition of SC2 |
| 18:27.27 | Taintedwisp | ~indeed |
| 18:27.27 | purl | Yes, indeed! taintedwisp is da man. |
| 18:27.34 | Taintedwisp | hmm |
| 18:27.37 | Dustin|Work | Ya Blizz Dota will be f2p |
| 18:27.51 | Zolden | Triceron: do you have a link to photoshop plugin? I decided to use it, fuck XNormal |
| 18:27.54 | Triceron | the only way I can see them making it require HOTS is if they have some super special feature added that WOL doensn't support. |
| 18:28.09 | Triceron | yeah it's called the Nvidia tools -> Normal map filter |
| 18:28.12 | Triceron | lemme get you a link |
| 18:28.18 | Zolden | wait, i think i have it |
| 18:28.38 | Triceron | https://developer.nvidia.com/nvidia-texture-tools-adobe-photoshop |
| 18:28.42 | Zolden | i've got nvidia tools to save .dds |
| 18:28.52 | Zolden | is it it? |
| 18:28.55 | Triceron | should be part of the whole package |
| 18:28.55 | Triceron | yeah |
| 18:29.01 | Triceron | if you have it |
| 18:29.15 | Triceron | it's under 'Filter' tab, at the very very bottom |
| 18:29.16 | Zolden | ok, let's see |
| 18:29.48 | Triceron | Filter -> Nvidia Tools -> Normal Map Filter |
| 18:30.04 | Triceron | if you don't have it then you might have to reinstall the plugins or something |
| 18:30.16 | Zolden | I have it |
| 18:30.36 | Zolden | trying to understand it no |
| 18:30.38 | Zolden | w |
| 18:32.13 | Taintedwisp | Fuck microsoft... |
| 18:32.16 | Taintedwisp | Fuck them... |
| 18:32.17 | Taintedwisp | http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/729353/microsoft-patent-filing-aims-for-video-surveillance/ |
| 18:32.21 | Taintedwisp | wow... |
| 18:32.42 | Taintedwisp | Yeah... Im not getting the next xbox for sure.... if it has any kind of Video or LIstening device in it |
| 18:33.13 | Dustin|Work | Oh hell no |
| 18:33.25 | Dustin|Work | Going to sell my kinect tonight |
| 18:34.12 | Taintedwisp | yeah.. i think i might honestly sale my 360.... |
| 18:34.17 | Taintedwisp | This is pretty fucked up |
| 18:34.35 | Taintedwisp | According to patent application #20120278904, "the users consuming [individually licensed] content on a display device are monitored so that if the number of user-views licensed is exceeded, remedial action may be taken." |
| 18:35.07 | Triceron | so Obamar won eh? |
| 18:35.26 | Dustin|Work | Yup |
| 18:35.27 | Zolden | Triceron: ok, it works... but I don't get how it interprets the image... |
| 18:35.54 | Triceron | it's based on black ans white |
| 18:35.56 | Zolden | Triceron: Should it be totally desaturated? And in that case what black, gray, and white mean? |
| 18:36.00 | Triceron | black is indented |
| 18:36.04 | Triceron | white is popped out |
| 18:36.14 | Triceron | you know how a bump map works? |
| 18:36.25 | Triceron | cuz it's essentially turning a bump map into normal |
| 18:36.31 | Zolden | I believe I understand |
| 18:37.25 | Triceron | and yes, I'd prolly work on a desaturated copy of your diffuse map |
| 18:38.03 | Zolden | ok, waht about those radiobuttons and checkboxes in the plugin? |
| 18:38.04 | Triceron | and play around with different patterns or whatnot to get different normal results. High contrast = more noticable depth |
| 18:38.42 | Zolden | alright |
| 18:39.08 | Triceron | Height Source = Average RGB |
| 18:39.45 | Triceron | and I usually have Min Z 0 Scale 10 |
| 18:40.07 | Zolden | what Decal texture flags mean? |
| 18:40.17 | Triceron | I don't have any of that on usually |
| 18:40.26 | Taintedwisp | he disclosed technology is operational with numerous other general purpose or special purpose computing system environments or configurations. Examples of well-known computing systems, environments, and/or configurations that may be suitable for use with the technology include, but are not limited to, personal computers, server computers, hand-held or laptop devices, multiprocessor systems, microprocessor-based systems, set t |
| 18:40.27 | Taintedwisp | HOLY SHIT |
| 18:40.28 | Triceron | they're usually just extra stuff |
| 18:40.39 | Taintedwisp | Well Disableing Microsoft updates on my laptop |
| 18:41.16 | Zolden | Triceron: ok, ty again, gonna experiment now |
| 18:41.20 | Dustin|Work | This is one of the reasons Im going to switch to Linux when it has better gaming support |
| 18:41.44 | Ahli | better hacking support I've heard |
| 18:42.06 | Taintedwisp | Yeah... So now if you and a couple other people are watching a movie your laptop or desktop camera will be spying on you thanks to Microshit |
| 18:42.39 | Taintedwisp | Theres no way this crap can be considered legal |
| 18:43.26 | Taintedwisp | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:43.30 | Taintedwisp | It just gets worse and worse... |
| 18:43.36 | Taintedwisp | I am reading the patent |
| 18:43.41 | Triceron | zomg legalized marijuana in Washington |
| 18:43.49 | Ahli | just cover it and pretend it is broken |
| 18:44.04 | Ahli | at microsoft surveillance |
| 18:44.12 | Zolden | what? marijuana? |
| 18:44.31 | Ahli | but that would create a sh*tstorm anyway... yes marijunana... 'merica is now potheadland |
| 18:44.39 | Taintedwisp | OMFG!!! |
| 18:44.51 | Taintedwisp | Okay I was reading a part they tried to disguise... |
| 18:44.59 | Ahli | poor netherlands :'( |
| 18:45.20 | Taintedwisp | PRetty much its saying that if I take a flash drive or any removeable media and plug it into a computer with this software it will be transferred to the removeable... |
| 18:45.27 | Taintedwisp | Soooo if you plug your phone in, they can now see you... |
| 18:45.43 | Taintedwisp | If you plug a flash drive in, and then plug the flash drive into your computer your computer now has it |
| 18:46.23 | Taintedwisp | Pretty much... its a patent for a Surveillance computer virus... FUNDED BY A MAJOR COMPANY!! |
| 18:47.17 | Triceron | 1984 has arrived! |
| 18:47.25 | Triceron | Big Brother is watching you sleep |
| 18:47.49 | Ahli | will be awesome for hackers I guess |
| 18:47.55 | Ahli | they can spy everything with that |
| 18:48.00 | Taintedwisp | FUCK BIG BROTHER... Microsoft is watching you sleep |
| 18:48.25 | Taintedwisp | holy shit... Microsoft is going to have access to EVERYONE and everything, there will not be one uncovered rock... |
| 18:48.46 | Triceron | going to or already has |
| 18:48.48 | Taintedwisp | They are just going to HiJack every camera there is... |
| 18:49.01 | Dustin|Work | They better be expecting alot of penis shots then |
| 18:49.03 | Taintedwisp | Going to, they just applied for the patent |
| 18:49.09 | Triceron | usually those terms are a part of most user end agreements nowadays |
| 18:49.12 | Dustin|Work | All of my cameras will be pointed at my exposed penis when not in use |
| 18:49.24 | Dustin|Work | See how they like that |
| 18:49.35 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 18:49.59 | Taintedwisp | I might have to refresh my programming, So I can make a program that makes my camera look at some 90 yr old womans vagina.... |
| 18:50.02 | Triceron | tape a picture of old people genitals to the lens when not in use |
| 18:50.11 | Dustin|Work | ^ |
| 18:50.15 | Dustin|Work | Good idea |
| 18:50.15 | Taintedwisp | I wont use it at all.. |
| 18:50.22 | Taintedwisp | They dont need to know my fucking wereabouts... |
| 18:50.29 | Dustin|Work | Ill have all my cameras cycle LemonParty when not in use |
| 18:50.31 | zlefin | silly people always legalize medical marijuana the wrong way |
| 18:50.33 | Taintedwisp | Now I could be overreacting, but it REALLY does sound like it |
| 18:50.36 | Dustin|Work | zlefin |
| 18:50.42 | zlefin | yes? |
| 18:50.47 | Ahli | or spiders or something that could freak the people watching that out |
| 18:50.48 | Dustin|Work | What you talking about |
| 18:51.01 | Triceron | Washington |
| 18:51.04 | zlefin | medical marijuana dispensaries |
| 18:51.05 | Triceron | state |
| 18:51.10 | zlefin | are silly |
| 18:51.13 | Dustin|Work | Co and WA legalized for recreational not medical |
| 18:51.19 | Triceron | I was about to say |
| 18:51.22 | Taintedwisp | This shit turns my stomach.... it really does... if this is no bullshit, and its from a legit Patent site by the government... then its fucking sick |
| 18:51.45 | Taintedwisp | http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220120278904%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20120278904&RS=DN/20120278904 |
| 18:51.45 | zlefin | well, at least if it's recreational that makes senes to have stores |
| 18:51.47 | Dustin|Work | And now Im about to move to WA |
| 18:51.49 | Dustin|Work | or CO |
| 18:51.49 | Taintedwisp | If you want to read the patent |
| 18:51.52 | Dustin|Work | Cause fuck Kansas |
| 18:52.04 | zlefin | but not medical marijuana di9spensaires; those are stupid |
| 18:52.26 | Dustin|Work | They are just high grade dispenseries |
| 18:52.28 | Taintedwisp | America just lost the last little bit of decency if NO ONE STANDS UP TO THIS SHIT!! |
| 18:52.41 | Ahli | also, why do they patent things that hacks already use? |
| 18:53.26 | Ahli | can I patent the wheel? |
| 18:53.39 | Ahli | or a bottle? |
| 18:53.52 | zlefin | basically, the patent office has a bunch of morons who let through patents that they shuldn't |
| 18:54.01 | Ahli | yes |
| 18:54.02 | zlefin | the uspto needs to have a bunch of peopel fired |
| 18:54.04 | zlefin | and competent people put in |
| 18:54.12 | Triceron | I wonder how much longer till the finally legalize it here in Vancouver |
| 18:54.31 | Ahli | like all these design patents apple has... rounded edges... yeah... genius -.- |
| 18:54.39 | Dustin|Work | Im surprised we had a state legalize before canada did to be honest |
| 18:54.50 | Triceron | our government is stupid |
| 18:54.56 | Taintedwisp | The difference is, Microsoft can hit EVERYONE by simply including it into a Microsoft UPdate |
| 18:55.12 | Triceron | we'd actually solve a lot of problems from legalizing it |
| 18:55.13 | Taintedwisp | They will LITERALLY have ever phone, Computer, Some cars, under their control |
| 18:55.48 | Ahli | they would need to add new license agreements that allows them to hurt our privacy |
| 18:56.00 | Ahli | if that happens, you will read about it |
| 18:56.05 | Ahli | because... the internet |
| 18:56.45 | Taintedwisp | NO ONE WILL READ THE AGREEMENT!!! |
| 18:56.49 | Taintedwisp | everyone will just sign away |
| 18:56.57 | Ahli | someone will and it will be newsed |
| 18:56.58 | Taintedwisp | Lets be honest who the hell reads those things |
| 18:57.03 | Taintedwisp | Ic ouldnt tell you the first sentence of any of them |
| 18:57.05 | Ahli | omg,you didn't read the license agreement? |
| 18:57.11 | Taintedwisp | whos someone? |
| 18:57.12 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 18:57.25 | Ahli | don't you know the south park episode with apple? |
| 18:58.00 | Taintedwisp | Someone may read it, but do you really go strait to the internet and google a license agreement before clicking accept? |
| 18:58.03 | Triceron | well if you want to use their product, you gotta throw away your rights! |
| 18:58.08 | Taintedwisp | lol yeah that was stupid as shit and gross |
| 18:58.49 | Triceron | I mean isn't that pretty much the way it goes with most programs you agree to use? Take a photo, upload it to whatever site, and the site has all rights to that photo now. |
| 18:58.51 | Ahli | image is worth something for these companies... if they do something against the will of their customers, they will be hurt |
| 18:59.15 | Taintedwisp | I'm just saying... i dont trust other people with their electronics, and if anyone points a phone camera toward me ever again.. imma deck them one... |
| 18:59.24 | ckSynergy | anyone got the HOTS editor open? |
| 18:59.32 | Triceron | so paranoid Tainted, lol |
| 18:59.36 | Ahli | :D |
| 18:59.44 | Triceron | wait 6 years and you won't even give a shit about this any more :P |
| 19:00.01 | Taintedwisp | yeah I admit to being a bit paranoid... but only when its against companies I dont trust... |
| 19:00.09 | Taintedwisp | Like hell I wont.... |
| 19:00.11 | Triceron | so young and naive |
| 19:00.11 | Ahli | if everyone has every data about everyone, it doesn't matter anymore, true |
| 19:00.15 | ckSynergy | Data->Abilities->Effect Instant->Field: Flags (Re-executable) - wondering what that does |
| 19:00.17 | Taintedwisp | If I think about it, i will be pissed |
| 19:00.33 | Ahli | but we don't have all data about the scandals in companies |
| 19:00.34 | Taintedwisp | No one has all the data about me... |
| 19:00.44 | Taintedwisp | I just fake names and all kinds of such :P |
| 19:00.45 | Triceron | I'd be more worried about what they're putting in your food than having your picture taken without consent |
| 19:00.54 | ckSynergy | e_abilEffectFlagReExecutable |
| 19:00.59 | Taintedwisp | Not picture taken, Live Video |
| 19:01.08 | Ahli | at least some... do you use facebook? do you shared some correct info about yourself at any point in time? |
| 19:01.12 | Triceron | lol, why do you even give a damn about that |
| 19:01.32 | *** join/#sc2mapster EnexyNunu (48c02a9e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.192.42.158) |
| 19:01.40 | Taintedwisp | Because... I like having the little bit of privacy i do have in this world.. |
| 19:01.54 | Ahli | does facebook actually delete user data already? |
| 19:01.55 | Triceron | lol |
| 19:01.59 | Dustin|Work | No |
| 19:02.05 | Taintedwisp | No |
| 19:02.08 | Dustin|Work | Facebook just "Deactivates" accounts |
| 19:02.17 | Taintedwisp | I never put much of my user data on facebook |
| 19:02.27 | Taintedwisp | They are nothing but FBI snitches lol |
| 19:02.38 | Triceron | you telling me tainted that you have no pictures of yourself online anywhere? |
| 19:02.44 | Ahli | I mean if you delete some of your info or change something |
| 19:02.46 | Taintedwisp | Hmmm |
| 19:02.49 | Triceron | that someone hasn't taken a photo of you and uploaded it somewhere? |
| 19:02.58 | Ahli | never been to a party? :D |
| 19:02.59 | Taintedwisp | Without something covering my face? |
| 19:03.00 | Triceron | whether it's a family member or whatever |
| 19:03.02 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:03.04 | Triceron | or at a party yeah |
| 19:03.15 | Taintedwisp | hmmmmmm, There may be one, but its an untagged group photo |
| 19:03.16 | Dustin|Work | There's almost too much Dustin on the interwebs |
| 19:03.18 | Triceron | someone sending grandma a family pic |
| 19:03.22 | Dustin|Work | Cause I dont give a Fuuuuuuck |
| 19:03.28 | Triceron | as soon as it's up there, someone can track it down |
| 19:03.36 | Ahli | teinted is the minecraft guy in lmfao or however they are spelled |
| 19:03.39 | Ahli | *tainted |
| 19:03.41 | Triceron | and they can trace it back to your house |
| 19:03.54 | Triceron | they're prolly hiding in your closet right now |
| 19:03.59 | Taintedwisp | Meh, I hate having my picture taken whatsoever... i hate that its on my driverslicense, I sure as fuck dont want some corporation to have it... |
| 19:04.10 | Ahli | if you use a cellphone, they can track your approximate position |
| 19:04.11 | Taintedwisp | Fuck Minecraft, that game blows :P |
| 19:04.19 | Triceron | oh shit, Drivers liscence. You really signed your life away :S |
| 19:04.21 | Taintedwisp | I dont use cellphones |
| 19:04.24 | Taintedwisp | I dont like them |
| 19:04.29 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 19:04.31 | Ahli | u got no money for them ;D |
| 19:04.42 | Ahli | just kidding |
| 19:04.52 | Ahli | found a job already? :) |
| 19:05.03 | Taintedwisp | Well, Yes and no, I could have a phone thats not really a problem, I just honestly dont like them |
| 19:05.04 | Triceron | well as long as you don't have a credit card, your identity should still be okay |
| 19:05.23 | Taintedwisp | I told everyone back in 2003... I WILL NOT GET A FUCKING CELLPHONE UNTIL IT CAN PLAY WARCRAFT 2!!!!! BNE!!! |
| 19:05.24 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 19:05.49 | Taintedwisp | I have a debit card :P so my identity is shit, but I dont use it often |
| 19:05.55 | EnexyNunu | I love... |
| 19:05.57 | EnexyNunu | Treenuts |
| 19:06.03 | Taintedwisp | I usually go into the bank withdrawl money and then go spend the cash wherever |
| 19:06.29 | Taintedwisp | thats ot paranoia, thats more of me liking to use cash |
| 19:06.40 | Taintedwisp | I dont like using a promise of a Promise to pay a debt |
| 19:06.47 | Ahli | same, but I do it to have a better feeling about how much money I spend |
| 19:07.00 | Taintedwisp | yeah that too |
| 19:07.14 | Taintedwisp | I know exactly how much I am spending and exactly how much is left |
| 19:08.14 | Triceron | what the heck are treenuts |
| 19:08.35 | Ahli | hazelnuts etc |
| 19:08.53 | Ahli | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Haselnuss_Gr_99.jpg/230px-Haselnuss_Gr_99.jpg |
| 19:09.33 | ThunderLord | Back, Hey Taintedwisp |
| 19:09.37 | Taintedwisp | hey |
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| 19:11.49 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWsBIQicYtE&sns=em Kinda thinking wtf... lol |
| 19:14.25 | ThunderLord | U closed beta tested the origional Footmen Frenzy? |
| 19:16.31 | Taintedwisp | Yeah once a twice :P I was in a clan where the leader was friends with a maker |
| 19:17.09 | Taintedwisp | That was back before Teirs had a 2 minute wait on them :P i miss those days ahah |
| 19:18.23 | ThunderLord | Lol i remember that! |
| 19:18.40 | ThunderLord | dude the origional Footmen Frenzy was pretty awesome |
| 19:19.13 | Taintedwisp | I always liked that a bit more, but then later they changed it and heroes were the main focus :P before you could early tier and have a chance or go hero and have a chance |
| 19:19.17 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 19:20.25 | ThunderLord | yeah, its hard to find a good ballance between Heros and Minions, mine is definately Hero based |
| 19:25.06 | Taintedwisp | My Minions are balanced, but I want to balance the heroes around them |
| 19:25.24 | Triceron | oh sweet, looks like they're looking at redesigning the Raven and Void ray |
| 19:25.33 | Taintedwisp | WHAT!!! i love the void ray |
| 19:25.36 | Taintedwisp | It shouldnt be changed |
| 19:25.59 | Taintedwisp | Unless you want to give it an exploading core ability mwhahaah |
| 19:26.06 | Taintedwisp | Something I was considering making hahaah |
| 19:26.47 | Taintedwisp | IT stands up strait, opens up and exploads its core after 4 seconds while stood up its movement speed is reduced by 40% and it cant attack, it does high wide aoe damage |
| 19:27.04 | ThunderLord | WHAT WHERE DO U SEE THAT?!?!? |
| 19:27.10 | ThunderLord | ILL BRB |
| 19:27.10 | Taintedwisp | Thats what I want... |
| 19:27.12 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:27.40 | Taintedwisp | Hey ThunderLord, what musix did you use for your background music |
| 19:28.06 | Taintedwisp | I used Sc1 music |
| 19:28.15 | ThunderLord | well atm, i just use default, i publish it so often for tests that i want to keep the file size as small as possible |
| 19:28.37 | ThunderLord | ill prolly just use Gangnam Style on an infinate loop |
| 19:28.37 | ThunderLord | lol |
| 19:29.20 | ThunderLord | where did u hear about the voidray change? |
| 19:29.22 | Exaken | It should be able to charge the crystal and shoot it for aoe damage and it would take time for the crystal to regenerate :P |
| 19:29.50 | Exaken | thus making it unable to attack while it doesn't have the crystal |
| 19:30.21 | ThunderLord | .......where is this documented! |
| 19:30.24 | ThunderLord | i wana know!!! |
| 19:32.02 | Zolden | Triceron, have you ever used envio maps for sc2 models? |
| 19:32.33 | Dustin|Work | A cool melee mod would be for the map resources to randomly teleport around the map at certain intervals |
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| 19:33.40 | Triceron_ | blargh |
| 19:33.58 | Zolden | ;/ |
| 19:34.01 | Triceron_ | anyways, saw it in an interview with David Kim over at TL |
| 19:34.14 | Zolden | Triceron_: have you ever used envio maps for sc2 models? |
| 19:34.18 | Triceron_ | nope |
| 19:34.38 | Zolden | but you know what are they good for? |
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| 19:37.24 | ThunderLord | Hey Triceron_, could i make a model request? a cone shaped AoE splat... |
| 19:37.51 | Taintedwisp | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:37.51 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:37.58 | Taintedwisp | Was in my own mind Its something I WANT hahah |
| 19:38.03 | ThunderLord | WHAT VOIDRAY CHANGE!!!! |
| 19:38.05 | ThunderLord | WHERE! |
| 19:38.25 | Taintedwisp | The one about the AOE BURST!! I MADE THAT UP!!! |
| 19:38.27 | Taintedwisp | I WANT IT HAHA |
| 19:38.43 | ThunderLord | <--- Trolled |
| 19:38.44 | ThunderLord | lol |
| 19:39.04 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:39.28 | Taintedwisp | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/off-topic/44973-microsoft-should-we-boycott/#p1 |
| 19:39.35 | Taintedwisp | Could be the newest debate thread!! |
| 19:39.36 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 19:40.05 | Dustin|Work | Speaking of debates, whatever happend to Rodrigo |
| 19:40.20 | Exaken | He mysteroisly disapeared |
| 19:40.28 | Exaken | ? |
| 19:40.41 | Dustin|Work | I suspect he was assasinated |
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| 19:41.11 | Taintedwisp | I killed him... |
| 19:41.17 | Taintedwisp | :P |
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| 19:43.54 | ThunderLord | How do you boycott Microsoft? we are all using Windows rite naow |
| 19:44.04 | Dustin|Work | Im using Linux |
| 19:44.05 | Dustin|Work | :) |
| 19:44.09 | Taintedwisp | You know whats funny... Prostitution is illegal, unless theres a camera... and Assualt is illegal unless they are hanging around celebrities... |
| 19:44.16 | Taintedwisp | yeah sadly... |
| 19:44.17 | Taintedwisp | I know |
| 19:44.46 | Taintedwisp | I want to boycott Microsoft... but I dont have the money for another computer... |
| 19:44.46 | Triceron_ | mac |
| 19:44.53 | Triceron_ | go apple lolz |
| 19:45.03 | ThunderLord | Apple is lolz |
| 19:45.04 | Taintedwisp | lol crapple |
| 19:45.04 | ThunderLord | well |
| 19:45.13 | ThunderLord | nvm, it has its moments |
| 19:45.23 | Dustin|Work | NEVER MAC |
| 19:45.24 | Dustin|Work | EVERRRR |
| 19:45.27 | Dustin|Work | Go Linux |
| 19:45.29 | Dustin|Work | Like real men |
| 19:45.34 | ThunderLord | we should all go Linux |
| 19:45.38 | ThunderLord | i need a graphics card tho |
| 19:45.41 | DeadZergling | linux sucks if you want to play games |
| 19:45.42 | ThunderLord | so Windows it is |
| 19:45.54 | Dustin|Work | Its getting better Zergling |
| 19:46.04 | Dustin|Work | Steam Will support Ubuntu soon |
| 19:46.09 | Triceron_ | well it sounds like its the way to go if Windows 8 persists as it does |
| 19:46.14 | Taintedwisp | Deletarius, go tell your peeps to makea Blizzard OS, ILL USE IT!!! |
| 19:46.14 | ThunderLord | It needs those Graphics cards Drivers |
| 19:46.22 | Triceron_ | no one likes windows 8 |
| 19:46.22 | Dustin|Work | And Ive got a program called CrossOver that lets me run a shit ton of windows apps/games in linux |
| 19:46.24 | Taintedwisp | if my background can be a running zergling |
| 19:46.26 | DeadZergling | I have a great solution for those w/ a problem w/ Windows 8 |
| 19:46.29 | DeadZergling | DONT GET IT |
| 19:46.37 | DeadZergling | Avoid it like Vista |
| 19:46.41 | Dustin|Work | I am |
| 19:46.44 | Dustin|Work | Fuck windows 8 |
| 19:46.58 | Taintedwisp | Deadzergling go make my abilities for me!!!! |
| 19:46.59 | ThunderLord | ♥ Windows 7 |
| 19:47.01 | Taintedwisp | hahah |
| 19:47.19 | Taintedwisp | FUCK WINDOWS 8 FUCK OS X FUCK UBUNTU!! |
| 19:47.28 | Taintedwisp | Cracked Win 7 forever!!! |
| 19:47.42 | ThunderLord | ... Windows XP |
| 19:47.50 | Taintedwisp | ehhhhhh, Its outdated |
| 19:48.02 | Dustin|Work | Psha |
| 19:48.07 | Dustin|Work | Windows 98 SE 4LIFE |
| 19:48.08 | ThunderLord | i would give my left nut for a 64 bit Windows XP |
| 19:48.11 | Triceron_ | win95 for me |
| 19:48.16 | ckSynergy | lolol |
| 19:48.51 | Dustin|Work | I remember buying floppy disk games in a big bin at walmart and then installing them on my dos computer at home |
| 19:48.52 | ThunderLord | I should get a VM for linux |
| 19:48.58 | Dustin|Work | Well my dad installed them I played the shit out of them |
| 19:49.01 | ThunderLord | and do all my not games in there |
| 19:49.08 | Dustin|Work | Thunder, thats what I have setup at home |
| 19:49.14 | Dustin|Work | Windows 7 + Ubuntu VM |
| 19:49.14 | ThunderLord | Rlly? |
| 19:49.17 | Triceron_ | i never had money for those games |
| 19:49.23 | ThunderLord | works good? |
| 19:49.23 | Taintedwisp | Installed? |
| 19:49.26 | Triceron_ | only started buying during the cd era |
| 19:49.28 | Dustin|Work | Works real good |
| 19:49.31 | Taintedwisp | What games installed? All the ones I had were portable |
| 19:49.34 | ThunderLord | Alright |
| 19:49.35 | ThunderLord | well |
| 19:49.37 | Taintedwisp | you just typed the executeable command |
| 19:49.38 | ThunderLord | imma make it happin |
| 19:49.48 | Dustin|Work | VirtualBox |
| 19:49.51 | Dustin|Work | Free and eazy |
| 19:50.04 | Triceron_ | oh man, typing commands |
| 19:50.11 | Dustin|Work | VM ware has a nice feature though that is called Unity |
| 19:50.12 | Triceron_ | those were the days |
| 19:50.14 | Taintedwisp | U wish Warcraft 1 and 2 would get HD editions.... |
| 19:50.15 | ThunderLord | I gotta get that VM |
| 19:50.19 | Dustin|Work | It integrates your VM with your main OS |
| 19:50.21 | Triceron_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:50.23 | Taintedwisp | so I could buy them for 20$ and play the hell outta them |
| 19:50.47 | ThunderLord | I want more than anything, all the WC3 models in SC2 quality |
| 19:50.57 | ThunderLord | *cough cough |
| 19:51.01 | DeadZergling | be fun to have an excuse to use normal expressions again though, must admit |
| 19:51.04 | Taintedwisp | I just remembered something... |
| 19:51.15 | Taintedwisp | What happend to Newbie Wednesday, and terraining thursday |
| 19:51.27 | Triceron_ | :P Pay me moneys and I'll make that happen |
| 19:51.37 | ThunderLord | rlly? |
| 19:51.39 | ThunderLord | how much |
| 19:52.03 | DeadZergling | i dunno, I think well done tutorials |
| 19:52.09 | DeadZergling | geared towards certain things |
| 19:52.16 | Triceron_ | hm, 50k? Should only take me about a year to get all the playable race units done |
| 19:52.18 | DeadZergling | beats newbie wednesdays/terraining thursdays |
| 19:52.23 | Taintedwisp | II made a crappy tutorial the other day :P |
| 19:52.28 | ThunderLord | per unit? |
| 19:52.36 | Ahli | apros pros funding... egod's kickstarter is still at 0 |
| 19:52.38 | Triceron_ | nah, for the whole package sans creeps |
| 19:52.49 | Dustin|Work | lol 50k PER POLYGON BITCHES |
| 19:52.59 | Triceron_ | oh man I wish |
| 19:53.00 | ThunderLord | LOL |
| 19:53.06 | Taintedwisp | GOOD IM GLAD IT IS!!! IT WILL TEACH HIS TEAMMATE TO BE A POMPOUS ASS!!!' |
| 19:53.39 | ThunderLord | so like, how much would it cost to get a Synvanis Windrunner model? |
| 19:53.42 | Dustin|Work | No-one is going to Kickstarter a rip off SC2 map |
| 19:54.24 | Dustin|Work | That guy is using some projectile system I made for my Top DOwn Fighters map back in beta that he rippped out and tweaked together |
| 19:54.42 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 19:55.02 | Ahli | I explained him how I handle my item stats :D |
| 19:55.07 | Dustin|Work | I dont mind, but if you're going to kickstart a project at least have it be your own :P |
| 19:55.14 | Taintedwisp | heh |
| 19:55.21 | Triceron_ | you can just rip that from WoW and use that |
| 19:55.28 | Triceron_ | it's a perfectly good model |
| 19:55.48 | Taintedwisp | Its funny because that TouVaj claimed that he had sponsers from major gaming companies... |
| 19:55.49 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 19:55.50 | ThunderLord | Def not |
| 19:55.59 | ThunderLord | that is the basic like... just person |
| 19:56.00 | Taintedwisp | and that 21 thousand people followed him on twitter |
| 19:56.06 | ThunderLord | the elf, with the cloak and the bow |
| 19:56.10 | Ahli | why do I receive these ads for beta keys in irc? |
| 19:56.21 | Dustin|Work | ads? |
| 19:56.31 | Taintedwisp | Actually thunderlord |
| 19:56.34 | Ahli | "N"pms you and advertises something |
| 19:56.37 | Taintedwisp | Triceron already has an elf witha bow |
| 19:56.37 | Zolden | and another freaky turret I created: http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/32/825/twit_tower.jpg |
| 19:57.00 | Ahli | I guess they are irc network wide messages |
| 19:57.11 | Triceron_ | then they made Sylvanas again for Blizz DoTA |
| 19:57.16 | Ahli | from the people running it I asusme |
| 19:57.18 | Dustin|Work | Weird cause I didnt get any |
| 19:57.20 | Triceron_ | so I dunno why you really need another model :P |
| 19:57.23 | Taintedwisp | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/Triceron/Units_ingametest_02.jpg |
| 19:57.24 | Taintedwisp | See |
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| 19:57.41 | ThunderLord | wehre do i get that model???? |
| 19:57.44 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 19:57.48 | Triceron_ | lol |
| 19:57.55 | ThunderLord | i only see the footmen on SC2 mapster |
| 19:57.58 | Taintedwisp | LOL you already had the exact one trice |
| 19:58.11 | Taintedwisp | You have to convince him your worthy :P |
| 19:58.16 | Triceron_ | hahaha |
| 19:58.19 | Taintedwisp | I was unable... :P then again i want ALL his models.. |
| 19:58.29 | Triceron_ | I'm waiting for HOTS |
| 19:58.35 | Triceron_ | the model format's gonna be changed |
| 19:58.35 | Taintedwisp | of course hes doing the same thing I was gunna do with them |
| 19:58.42 | Taintedwisp | Ahh |
| 19:58.54 | Ahli | with hots he has orcs with physics models... |
| 19:58.56 | Triceron_ | or maybe I should release all my models once HOTS hits so they're not usable |
| 19:59.03 | Triceron_ | OH MY GOD I CAN'T WAIT FOR PHYSICS |
| 19:59.04 | Taintedwisp | hahah |
| 19:59.07 | Taintedwisp | Thats dirty |
| 19:59.11 | Triceron_ | I dont have to do death animations |
| 19:59.20 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 19:59.21 | ThunderLord | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BqYxk_S1sM thats prolly the coolest thing i have on hand, am i worthy? |
| 19:59.31 | Taintedwisp | Some still need death animations |
| 19:59.32 | Zolden | phisics use the actual models? |
| 19:59.37 | Taintedwisp | Yeah that nuke is badass |
| 19:59.40 | Triceron_ | make my siege weapons explode |
| 19:59.43 | Zolden | i thought they made those ragdolls for each model |
| 19:59.53 | Taintedwisp | Thunderlord go mak eme that nuke on my map haha :P, nah I wouldnt want to copy you exactly like that |
| 20:00.06 | Ahli | it's something in the model file at least |
| 20:00.06 | Triceron_ | not exactly sure how they hook it up |
| 20:00.14 | Triceron_ | I know the physics is applied to the actors somehow |
| 20:00.28 | ckSynergy | is there a way to hookup a progress actor to non-build ability? |
| 20:00.29 | ThunderLord | lol |
| 20:00.32 | Triceron_ | I don't know if that autmatically makes models use physics or if you have to set that up in the .m3 |
| 20:00.36 | ckSynergy | ie to play animations in sequence |
| 20:01.17 | Ahli | bommes found something out about collisions of physics models |
| 20:01.21 | Taintedwisp | Hey Thunderlord on a scale from 1-10 how hard was that nuke to make? |
| 20:01.24 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 20:01.36 | Ahli | they all had a physics model inside the m3 in cutscene editor |
| 20:01.46 | Taintedwisp | I am thinking of somthing Similar yet different for my final hero |
| 20:01.57 | Taintedwisp | Mine wont just kill like that |
| 20:01.57 | Ahli | (like the bridges in WoL) |
| 20:01.57 | ThunderLord | ummmm, the making of it was prolly like a 6, but the idea of doing it was the hard part |
| 20:02.02 | ThunderLord | ill be back later |
| 20:02.10 | ThunderLord | i gotta go take a math exam XD |
| 20:02.15 | Taintedwisp | ok |
| 20:02.19 | Dustin|Work | Go ace that shit |
| 20:02.32 | Dustin|Work | Remember, E = MC2 |
| 20:03.04 | Zolden | Ahli: waht about bridges in wol? Do they use collisions? |
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| 20:04.27 | Zolden | Guys, Is it possible to cerate a turret which will be an arc between two cliffs divided by a canyon? Will the footprint agree to be placed as an arc? |
| 20:04.47 | Taintedwisp | e = mc hammer |
| 20:05.02 | Taintedwisp | Space INFESTATION - The infested soldier calls down an infested strike. The strike lands and spawns Soldiers in a radius determined by the mouses location that is tracked on the way down. |
| 20:05.04 | Taintedwisp | Theres the idea |
| 20:05.08 | Ahli | they use some physics model, yes |
| 20:05.16 | Taintedwisp | I am thinking the soldiers attack for 5 seconds then explode |
| 20:05.18 | Ahli | there is something in the model details |
| 20:06.05 | Zolden | so, bringe-like model can be used as a false terrain? |
| 20:06.24 | Triceron_ | Any DLC for SC2 to play SC1 campaigns? "Not bad. I will ask the developers." :O |
| 20:06.31 | Triceron_ | that's from one of the David Kim interviews |
| 20:06.55 | Dustin|Work | Blizzard should hire me to recreated the SC1 campaign in SC2 |
| 20:06.59 | Dustin|Work | I would SO FUCKING DO THAT |
| 20:07.02 | Zolden | what's "DLC"? |
| 20:07.05 | Dustin|Work | And it would be awesome |
| 20:07.09 | Dustin|Work | Downloadable Content |
| 20:07.09 | Triceron_ | downloadable content |
| 20:07.35 | Triceron_ | I'd pay $5 to replay the campaign |
| 20:07.37 | Zolden | ty |
| 20:07.41 | Triceron_ | maybe $10 if they do it really well |
| 20:07.52 | Bommes | Triceron_: You can look in the cutscene editor into the model data |
| 20:07.59 | Bommes | theres one folder with the name "Physics bodies" |
| 20:08.16 | Triceron_ | is this in the current editor? |
| 20:08.17 | Bommes | I suspect that makes the model take part in ragdoll collisions |
| 20:08.23 | Bommes | hots beta editor |
| 20:08.25 | Bommes | well also in wol one |
| 20:08.28 | Bommes | i think |
| 20:08.34 | Bommes | but the folders there should all be empty |
| 20:08.40 | Triceron_ | but I guess it's just not flagged to work yet in WOL editor |
| 20:08.44 | Bommes | at least all the wol assets i tried had nothing in them |
| 20:08.49 | Bommes | and also none of them worked for physics collisions |
| 20:09.02 | Triceron_ | so it's all set up, we just gotta wait for the content |
| 20:09.04 | Bommes | as in ragdolls always fly through the old models |
| 20:09.19 | Triceron_ | I'm guessing Star Tools will have something to bridge the physics hookups too |
| 20:09.34 | Bommes | Hopefully |
| 20:09.40 | Triceron_ | I wanna figure out how they do their burn and acid deaths too |
| 20:10.04 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 20:10.32 | Triceron_ | put ragdoll on a burning corpse |
| 20:10.33 | Triceron_ | oh yeah |
| 20:13.47 | Triceron_ | wait widow mines deal 160 damage? |
| 20:14.16 | Triceron_ | 40 splash holy crap |
| 20:14.27 | Exaken | yup |
| 20:14.33 | Triceron_ | range 5 waaaah |
| 20:14.41 | Exaken | And don't require a tech addon |
| 20:14.43 | Taintedwisp | those ragdoll effects probably arent a model setting |
| 20:14.46 | Triceron_ | omg 75/25 cost only?! |
| 20:14.58 | Taintedwisp | Otherwise our custom models couldnt be ragdolls] |
| 20:15.06 | Dustin|Work | They have a huge attack cooldown though |
| 20:16.06 | Triceron_ | 40 isn't bad once you destroyed the entire enemy force |
| 20:16.34 | Taintedwisp | Trice... I think blizz should just hire you for their Models haha |
| 20:17.10 | Bommes | Taintedwisp: Do you have custom models that are ragdolls? |
| 20:17.21 | Taintedwisp | i havent tried it yet |
| 20:17.27 | Taintedwisp | I think i could go into the editor and test though |
| 20:17.35 | Triceron_ | hots editor? |
| 20:17.38 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 20:17.41 | Triceron_ | is that working now? |
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| 20:17.45 | Triceron_ | as its own thing |
| 20:17.49 | Taintedwisp | it should be |
| 20:17.58 | Taintedwisp | I have beta |
| 20:18.00 | Triceron_ | so it supports HOTS features and stuff |
| 20:18.01 | Taintedwisp | sooo either way |
| 20:18.04 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 20:18.07 | Triceron_ | hmm |
| 20:18.08 | Taintedwisp | deff |
| 20:18.12 | Triceron_ | gimme |
| 20:18.14 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 20:18.17 | Triceron_ | :P |
| 20:18.21 | Taintedwisp | Ill download your Footman model to test :P |
| 20:19.23 | Zolden | suppose, they use model's bones for ragdoll physics |
| 20:20.03 | Triceron_ | that would make sense |
| 20:20.16 | Triceron_ | I wonder if that's how the colossus works too |
| 20:20.27 | Taintedwisp | Give me 5 minutes |
| 20:20.29 | Taintedwisp | gunna do a simple test |
| 20:20.55 | Bommes | Taintedwisp: What kind of test? |
| 20:20.56 | Zolden | Leruster said that the new m3 exporter supports IK's... didn't tested ut though |
| 20:21.00 | Taintedwisp | a physics test |
| 20:21.02 | Taintedwisp | with custom models |
| 20:21.18 | Triceron_ | but they demoed that for the SC2 announce, with missles being phycis based when they used timebomb on it |
| 20:22.03 | Zolden | physics insted of movers? |
| 20:22.18 | Bommes | Have you tried anything with the physics stuff yet? As in, set up the actor/model/unit data from scratch? |
| 20:22.28 | Triceron_ | they all dropped on the ground |
| 20:22.45 | Taintedwisp | nope |
| 20:22.47 | Dustin|Work | I think it has to do with the bones being physics based |
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| 20:23.30 | Triceron | bah |
| 20:23.39 | Triceron | BAH I say! |
| 20:23.51 | Bommes | Taintedwisp: Then what makes you think it works with just any custom model? :D |
| 20:24.08 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 20:24.12 | Taintedwisp | Nothing |
| 20:24.17 | Taintedwisp | But I am bored and doesnt hurt to test |
| 20:24.17 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 20:26.04 | Taintedwisp | WOW thats new... |
| 20:26.16 | Taintedwisp | The Preview of the model now shows the stand animation |
| 20:26.20 | Taintedwisp | before it was a still picture |
| 20:28.18 | Taintedwisp | I suck at importing files hahaah |
| 20:28.59 | Dustin|Work | How do you suck at clicking :P |
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| 20:29.39 | Dustin|Work | Tits or gtfo soulcarverr |
| 20:30.14 | soulcarverr | ? |
| 20:30.26 | Dustin|Work | ... |
| 20:30.31 | Dustin|Work | What do you mean ? |
| 20:30.34 | soulcarverr | why are you telling me to gtfo =( |
| 20:30.42 | Dustin|Work | I didnt |
| 20:30.47 | Dustin|Work | I said TITS or gtfo :) |
| 20:30.56 | soulcarverr | well I dont have tits.... |
| 20:31.07 | Dustin|Work | I didnt say YOUR tits |
| 20:32.04 | Taintedwisp | TESTING NOW |
| 20:33.03 | Taintedwisp | TITS |
| 20:33.04 | Taintedwisp | !!! |
| 20:33.05 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 20:33.14 | Taintedwisp | haah whats up soulcarver? |
| 20:34.01 | soulcarverr | wondering how long its gonna take for the country to bankrupt itself |
| 20:34.11 | soulcarverr | that is whats up |
| 20:34.20 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 20:34.22 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 20:34.26 | Taintedwisp | You no want obama? |
| 20:34.49 | soulcarverr | I cant understand why anybody would |
| 20:35.54 | Taintedwisp | TRICERON |
| 20:35.55 | Taintedwisp | YOU THERE |
| 20:36.09 | EnexyNunu | everyone has tits... |
| 20:36.09 | EnexyNunu | wth |
| 20:36.10 | Taintedwisp | TRICERON |
| 20:36.21 | Taintedwisp | Physics work with your footman model in the beta!!!!! |
| 20:36.29 | Taintedwisp | THEY DO GET THE RAGDOLL EFFECTS |
| 20:36.37 | Taintedwisp | also Firey death ahah |
| 20:36.56 | Triceron | you troll |
| 20:36.58 | Taintedwisp | So Custom Models DO automatically get ragdoll |
| 20:36.59 | Triceron | pics or it didn't happen |
| 20:37.08 | TheSkunk__ | I have returned |
| 20:37.08 | Taintedwisp | Pics? what Am I a scrub? |
| 20:37.14 | Triceron | video me then |
| 20:37.25 | Triceron | I don't believe you |
| 20:38.17 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 20:38.18 | Taintedwisp | ok ill see what I can do |
| 20:38.22 | Taintedwisp | give me a sec |
| 20:38.34 | Taintedwisp | Might be a laggy video haha |
| 20:39.14 | Triceron | you sure its the custom model body too? |
| 20:39.19 | Triceron | cuz death animations use a different model |
| 20:39.32 | Taintedwisp | I retract my statement |
| 20:39.43 | Taintedwisp | Yeah they are just throwing the Zealot Body |
| 20:39.48 | Taintedwisp | I thought it was the fotty because it was on fire |
| 20:39.53 | Taintedwisp | its a whole seperate model |
| 20:40.01 | Triceron | whoa zealot has burn death now? |
| 20:40.03 | Taintedwisp | But the footman you cant tell the difference ahaha |
| 20:40.13 | Taintedwisp | it did when 50 seige tanks shot at it haah |
| 20:40.22 | Triceron | they don't just wisp away, awesome |
| 20:40.28 | Taintedwisp | it desiergrated with fire |
| 20:40.46 | Taintedwisp | I changed the footman to a marine and you could tell 100% |
| 20:41.20 | Taintedwisp | but that Footman looks GREAT on the Zealots actor |
| 20:41.21 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 20:41.22 | Triceron | yeah, marine totally looks different |
| 20:41.31 | Taintedwisp | you cant tell, unless you REALLY look |
| 20:41.34 | Taintedwisp | and look really hard |
| 20:42.30 | Taintedwisp | damn haha |
| 20:42.37 | Taintedwisp | i thought it actualyl worked :P but the zealot model shows we can fake it |
| 20:43.23 | Triceron | yeah I didn't think it'd be that simple |
| 20:43.27 | Triceron | esp when you said there's burn anims |
| 20:45.06 | TheSkunk__ | just saw a wild bald eagle on my walk |
| 20:45.08 | Taintedwisp | hahha |
| 20:45.15 | Taintedwisp | LIES!!!! |
| 20:45.16 | Triceron | it's a sign |
| 20:45.20 | Taintedwisp | SECRETS AND LIES!!! |
| 20:45.26 | Taintedwisp | its a sign... your going to go bald!!! |
| 20:45.32 | Dustin|Work | SMELLS LIKE DEATH AND SECRETS |
| 20:45.46 | TheSkunk__ | he probably flew in for election day |
| 20:45.49 | TheSkunk__ | americaaaa |
| 20:45.53 | Taintedwisp | Not only are you going to go bald, but your going to obtain herpes. |
| 20:46.05 | TheSkunk__ | We've actually seen it around here before a couple of times |
| 20:46.05 | Taintedwisp | Was he flying towards canada? |
| 20:46.06 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 20:46.19 | Dustin|Work | http://i.imgur.com/e8XLe.png |
| 20:46.23 | Taintedwisp | That bird was like FUK!!! OBOZO WON!!! FUCK AMERICA |
| 20:46.27 | Triceron | no need to, they already legalized marijuana in wa and co |
| 20:46.33 | TheSkunk__ | You may not know it, but there are lots of kinds of wildlife making a comeback in the more wild parts |
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| 20:48.08 | Triceron_ | blargh... |
| 20:48.14 | Triceron_ | irc keeps freezing |
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| 20:49.00 | TAINTEDFISH | back |
| 20:49.18 | Triceron_ | okay good |
| 20:49.20 | Triceron_ | it's not just me |
| 20:49.58 | TAINTEDFISH | it is just you, america hates you |
| 20:49.59 | TAINTEDFISH | :P |
| 20:50.34 | taintedsirwispth | DELETARIUS!!!! |
| 20:50.37 | taintedsirwispth | NOOOOO |
| 20:50.46 | Triceron_ | he had enough of your shit |
| 20:50.51 | taintedsirwispth | LOl |
| 20:51.05 | Triceron | :P |
| 20:51.11 | Taintedwisp | haha |
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| 20:51.22 | Triceron | damn you |
| 20:51.24 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 20:51.52 | Taintedwisp | damn sizen is already in use |
| 20:51.52 | Taintedwisp | haah |
| 20:52.27 | Taintedwisp | Yo SoulCarverr I did the first CLosed beta game of Evofrenzy yesterday |
| 20:52.35 | Taintedwisp | Really i was just testing the mini units balance |
| 20:52.39 | Taintedwisp | they are balanced pretty good |
| 20:52.55 | Taintedwisp | each unit has 1.5 health and damage then the last teir |
| 20:53.38 | soulcarverr | how did that go |
| 20:53.44 | Taintedwisp | fjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfj |
| 20:54.10 | Taintedwisp | _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________- |
| 20:54.24 | Taintedwisp | actually it went decently |
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| 20:54.48 | Taintedwisp | I told people it was still heavily in development, but to my surprise i got 5 people to try almost instnaly |
| 20:54.50 | Taintedwisp | instantly |
| 20:55.02 | Leruster | hello |
| 20:55.26 | soulcarverr | hola |
| 20:55.33 | Triceron | Ahoy |
| 20:56.27 | Leruster | So Triceron! We meet again! :) |
| 20:57.02 | Triceron | Woo! :D |
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| 21:01.15 | Dustin|Work | Im going to call you Lester |
| 21:01.35 | Zolden | so, Taintedwisp, have you managed to ragdollize the footman? |
| 21:02.26 | Taintedwisp | I figured out how ti works |
| 21:02.37 | Taintedwisp | When they die instead of actually dying they switch to another model |
| 21:02.40 | Taintedwisp | which is the ragdoll |
| 21:02.46 | Dustin|Work | Ahh |
| 21:02.46 | Taintedwisp | so the footman itself would have to have a snd model |
| 21:03.08 | Taintedwisp | HIS NAM EI SNOT LESTER!!! |
| 21:03.09 | Zolden | oh |
| 21:03.14 | Taintedwisp | ITS Le' ROOSTER!!!! |
| 21:03.16 | Dustin|Work | I SHALL CALL HIM LESTER |
| 21:03.16 | Taintedwisp | get it right |
| 21:03.36 | Taintedwisp | ITS LE' ROOSTER!!! |
| 21:03.47 | Taintedwisp | hah |
| 21:06.25 | Taintedwisp | 20% of Americans Voted For Obama, 19% voted for Romney... 61 % just wanted this whole election crap to end already :P |
| 21:06.48 | soulcarverr | umm tainted |
| 21:06.52 | soulcarverr | from the demo I saw |
| 21:06.59 | soulcarverr | standard modles should work |
| 21:07.04 | soulcarverr | for some of the physics |
| 21:07.25 | soulcarverr | the ragdoll itself might be a special death model ... to get the limp limbs and such |
| 21:07.33 | Taintedwisp | well the Footmen I tried of Tricerons they just switched to the zealots |
| 21:07.53 | Taintedwisp | all I did is change the zealot actor model to footy htough |
| 21:08.06 | soulcarverr | well like in the example |
| 21:08.22 | soulcarverr | it shows it working on a bunch of debre |
| 21:08.37 | soulcarverr | like spheres roll |
| 21:08.42 | soulcarverr | because the model is a sphere |
| 21:08.48 | soulcarverr | and blocks roll like blocks |
| 21:08.51 | soulcarverr | because they have sides |
| 21:09.02 | soulcarverr | the ragdoll look is prolly more complicated |
| 21:09.03 | Triceron | well technically for voting |
| 21:09.19 | Triceron | individual votes don't matter, it's whatever your state wins isn't it? |
| 21:09.43 | Triceron | so if you're not in a swing state, your vote more or less doesn't matter cuz it's whatever the majority will be anyways |
| 21:09.52 | Taintedwisp | Well the way its done is stupid |
| 21:09.53 | soulcarverr | 61% are too stupid to even pay attention ... 20% are too stupid to know whats good for them |
| 21:10.07 | Triceron | it's one of the reasons one of my friends doesn't vote |
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| 21:10.16 | soulcarverr | your friends and idiot then |
| 21:10.19 | Triceron | he's in the wrong state, so he feels his opinion doesn't matter |
| 21:10.21 | Taintedwisp | States have Electorial votes based on population but if 51% vote democrat, and 49 % repub, all the electorials go to democrat |
| 21:10.25 | Taintedwisp | It really makes no sense |
| 21:10.42 | soulcarverr | californa having 50 electoral votes is bull shit |
| 21:10.49 | soulcarverr | thats the problem |
| 21:10.51 | Triceron | so if you're a republican in cali/ny your vote still matters? |
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| 21:10.55 | Taintedwisp | I didnt vote because It wasnt worth the gas haha. my state voted for Romney anyways so it didnt matter |
| 21:11.12 | soulcarverr | If i lived in cali I'd still vote |
| 21:11.42 | Triceron | I kinda wanted Romney to win |
| 21:11.48 | soulcarverr | the problem is people dont pay enough attention to the laws these fuckers try to push through |
| 21:11.50 | Taintedwisp | Yeah that was bull shit... Cali has 50 votes, like 40% was Repub and 60% Democrap, yet all 50 votes go to democrat? sooooo its like saying... fuck the 40% |
| 21:11.56 | Triceron | just to see how far down the hole he'd take it |
| 21:12.13 | Triceron | our dollar would skyrocket :D |
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| 21:12.20 | Taintedwisp | Obama has already drained our doller... |
| 21:12.24 | soulcarverr | nah |
| 21:12.30 | soulcarverr | theres more draining to come |
| 21:12.32 | Taintedwisp | Obama is nothing but the lefts bush.. |
| 21:12.33 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 21:12.35 | soulcarverr | cant wait for 8 dollar gas |
| 21:12.44 | soulcarverr | then maybe people will realize what they have done |
| 21:12.49 | Triceron | yeah but Romney would throw your jobs at China |
| 21:12.55 | soulcarverr | how you figure? |
| 21:13.02 | DeadZergling | no they won't, they take the bus |
| 21:13.05 | Triceron | cuz it's cheaper |
| 21:13.11 | soulcarverr | Dems are the reason jobs go to china |
| 21:13.30 | Taintedwisp | Honest truth... both would have screwed us up... we were voting for hte shinest of two turds haha |
| 21:13.37 | Taintedwisp | And the blackest turd won\ |
| 21:13.39 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 21:13.39 | soulcarverr | not true |
| 21:13.58 | Triceron | cuz dems are the reason why huge corporations like walmart beat out others with cheap merch |
| 21:14.03 | soulcarverr | the whole romney shipping jobs over seas is far from the truth |
| 21:14.10 | soulcarverr | they are |
| 21:14.14 | soulcarverr | taxes |
| 21:14.22 | soulcarverr | and expenses to employee people |
| 21:14.23 | soulcarverr | is why |
| 21:14.25 | soulcarverr | why buy shit |
| 21:14.27 | soulcarverr | from china |
| 21:14.36 | soulcarverr | cause its too expensive to make it here |
| 21:14.36 | Triceron | I don't think that would stop Walmart |
| 21:14.41 | Triceron | lower the taxes |
| 21:14.50 | Triceron | they're still gonna ship from China. They're just making more money now. |
| 21:14.50 | Taintedwisp | nah he wouldn't have shipped jobs he would have just given the average worker shittier working condiitons to compete with china slave labor |
| 21:14.51 | soulcarverr | if it could be made here cheaper then china |
| 21:14.52 | DeadZergling | democrats, lowering taxes? |
| 21:14.55 | soulcarverr | they would buy it from here |
| 21:14.57 | DeadZergling | do you even know what the party is? |
| 21:15.18 | Triceron | how are you gonna make things cheaper than china? |
| 21:15.25 | soulcarverr | lower taxes |
| 21:15.30 | Triceron | the price difference is pretty big |
| 21:15.34 | soulcarverr | not really |
| 21:15.42 | soulcarverr | minimum wage is the big problem |
| 21:15.55 | soulcarverr | and thats democrats as well |
| 21:15.58 | Taintedwisp | Whats it matter, the poor get fucked reguardless... waht I hate about obama, is obamacare.. it makes the poorest people still have to pay to keep living... I'm sorry but we are a first world country no one should have to suffer to keep living.... |
| 21:16.09 | Taintedwisp | Yeah minimum wage should be doubled |
| 21:16.14 | soulcarverr | living = suffering |
| 21:16.34 | soulcarverr | people need to get over themselfs |
| 21:16.34 | Taintedwisp | yeah well it doesnt mean you should have to choose between life and not eating that week... |
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| 21:16.45 | soulcarverr | thats how many people live tainted |
| 21:16.47 | Taintedwisp | Monkalizer you came in the wrong time aha |
| 21:16.50 | soulcarverr | accept it |
| 21:16.54 | DeadZergling | inflation isn't the answer TW |
| 21:17.07 | Triceron | tell that to the people in third world countries |
| 21:17.08 | Taintedwisp | yeah well we arent africa.. that shit shouldnt be going on over here... but neither of these shitty parties wanna do anything to fix that |
| 21:17.09 | soulcarverr | we cant have everything |
| 21:17.17 | soulcarverr | were gonna be africa |
| 21:17.17 | Leruster | Lester? Lerster Burnam? :P |
| 21:17.24 | soulcarverr | this is how you become africa |
| 21:17.29 | monkalizer | uuuh election overdose |
| 21:17.32 | Taintedwisp | yeah with an african in the lead we will be africa.. |
| 21:17.33 | Taintedwisp | your right |
| 21:17.36 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 21:17.42 | Taintedwisp | that was a bit too far but still |
| 21:17.51 | Triceron | just a bit |
| 21:18.02 | Taintedwisp | I should say.. with THAT particular african in the lead.. |
| 21:18.09 | soulcarverr | africa = poverty |
| 21:18.16 | Taintedwisp | pretty much. |
| 21:18.16 | Triceron | yeah, that half-white african |
| 21:18.39 | Taintedwisp | The half white african who claims that his white side is related to the first black slave somehow none the less |
| 21:18.40 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 21:18.49 | Taintedwisp | when there is NO ONE who knows who the first slave was... |
| 21:19.38 | soulcarverr | ? |
| 21:19.47 | soulcarverr | tainted... sometimes I wonder |
| 21:19.50 | Triceron | why does that even matter |
| 21:19.53 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 21:19.53 | Triceron | Romney's mormon |
| 21:20.02 | Taintedwisp | i dunno |
| 21:20.03 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 21:20.07 | Triceron | I think you'd have just as much worries there. |
| 21:20.10 | Taintedwisp | i just say whatevers on my mind :P |
| 21:20.17 | Taintedwisp | sometimes I Think I should throw a filter over it |
| 21:20.51 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 21:20.55 | Taintedwisp | Well anyways |
| 21:21.14 | Dustin|Work | Tainted, use your powers to make it 5pm cst |
| 21:21.19 | Taintedwisp | Enogh political talk, the monkey beat the Con i suppose.. :P oh well cant do anything now |
| 21:21.19 | Dustin|Work | I want to go hoooooooooome |
| 21:21.22 | DeadZergling | Well of course obama is related to the first black slave |
| 21:21.30 | soulcarverr | Romney isnt a con.... |
| 21:21.33 | DeadZergling | he is a mutt, he is related to everybody |
| 21:21.46 | Dustin|Work | romney is a horrible excuse for a person |
| 21:21.57 | soulcarverr | how you figure? |
| 21:22.00 | Taintedwisp | Romney I didnt like, but his VP i would have voted for him .. but he would need a good VP himself I hope he runs next election |
| 21:22.25 | Dustin|Work | I figure by his blatant disrespect for everyone in america |
| 21:22.34 | soulcarverr | Dont understand why people say terrible things about Romney.... hes one of the most stand up guys youll ever see run for president |
| 21:22.42 | Dustin|Work | Uh what |
| 21:22.45 | soulcarverr | what disrespect? |
| 21:22.48 | Triceron | ryan was destroyed in the debates |
| 21:22.48 | Dustin|Work | WHAT |
| 21:22.55 | Dustin|Work | Did you just say that he was a stand up guy |
| 21:23.00 | soulcarverr | yeah i did |
| 21:23.02 | Taintedwisp | Ryan tried to actually talk about his plan and what he would do |
| 21:23.20 | Taintedwisp | That I respected |
| 21:23.20 | Taintedwisp | Biden was a robot who just kept insulting |
| 21:23.25 | soulcarverr | Biden is a raging idiot |
| 21:23.31 | Taintedwisp | I was half expecting Biden to make yo mama jokes |
| 21:23.31 | Triceron | cuz Ryan was pulling out vague answers |
| 21:23.36 | Dustin|Work | The guy who lied to our faces then turned around and lied again later that day on multiple ocassions, and the same guy who bought businesses out and bled them dry for the proffit |
| 21:23.47 | soulcarverr | lied to who's face? |
| 21:23.50 | Taintedwisp | Dustin... thats all politicians |
| 21:23.51 | Dustin|Work | the same guy who has millions of dolalrs in an offshore account to not pay taxes on it |
| 21:23.51 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 21:23.56 | soulcarverr | he didnt bleed any business dry? |
| 21:23.56 | Dustin|Work | Everyones face |
| 21:23.59 | Dustin|Work | What |
| 21:24.02 | Taintedwisp | Thats all politicians again dustin |
| 21:24.02 | soulcarverr | you drink too much of the coolaid son |
| 21:24.08 | Dustin|Work | we're done, you apparently dont know what you're talking about |
| 21:24.12 | soulcarverr | more then you |
| 21:24.15 | soulcarverr | apparently |
| 21:24.15 | Taintedwisp | HEY NOW.. coolaid is delicous |
| 21:24.16 | Triceron | lol |
| 21:24.16 | Dustin|Work | nope |
| 21:24.25 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 21:24.31 | Taintedwisp | but sweet tea is better |
| 21:24.31 | Triceron | oh you silly americans |
| 21:24.37 | Taintedwisp | AMERCA!!! |
| 21:24.38 | Dustin|Work | This is what scares me |
| 21:24.53 | Dustin|Work | There can be a guy who Lies about EVERYTHING not just some shit, but EVERYTHING and people will believe him |
| 21:25.02 | Dustin|Work | We dodged a bullet yesterday |
| 21:25.26 | soulcarverr | ? |
| 21:25.32 | soulcarverr | What did Romney lie about? |
| 21:25.42 | Dustin|Work | What DIDNT he lie about |
| 21:25.43 | soulcarverr | and You realize what a venture capital firm does right? |
| 21:25.50 | soulcarverr | Your the one saying he did |
| 21:25.53 | Taintedwisp | Obama lied every day for 4 years... |
| 21:25.55 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:25.58 | Taintedwisp | romney only had 1 |
| 21:25.58 | soulcarverr | you should be able to come up with something.... |
| 21:26.00 | Dustin|Work | No Im saying |
| 21:26.07 | Dustin|Work | It would take less time to say what he DIDNT lie about |
| 21:26.15 | soulcarverr | your an idiot then |
| 21:26.20 | Taintedwisp | hhaha |
| 21:26.23 | soulcarverr | gg |
| 21:26.28 | Dustin|Work | Im an Idiot? |
| 21:26.31 | soulcarverr | yeah |
| 21:26.45 | Dustin|Work | Im not the one supporting a lieing blood sucker |
| 21:26.48 | soulcarverr | ? |
| 21:26.50 | soulcarverr | see |
| 21:26.53 | soulcarverr | thats not true |
| 21:26.58 | Dustin|Work | No |
| 21:26.59 | Dustin|Work | it is |
| 21:27.03 | Dustin|Work | Go watch the debates |
| 21:27.04 | soulcarverr | blatent lie really |
| 21:27.08 | soulcarverr | i did... |
| 21:27.12 | Dustin|Work | Then check his facts |
| 21:27.15 | soulcarverr | what did he lie about? |
| 21:27.15 | Triceron | http://dailycurrant.com/2012/11/06/george-bush-accidently-votes-obama/ |
| 21:27.16 | Triceron | ROFL |
| 21:27.39 | Triceron | were the ballots really that confusing? |
| 21:27.41 | Dustin|Work | http://www.politifact.com/personalities/mitt-romney/statements/byruling/false/ |
| 21:27.42 | soulcarverr | Dustin the fact of the matter is you cant point at anything specific topic he lied about. |
| 21:27.48 | Dustin|Work | Read through all those |
| 21:27.53 | Dustin|Work | Yes I can |
| 21:27.56 | Dustin|Work | And I have said |
| 21:28.00 | Dustin|Work | EVERYTHING |
| 21:28.02 | soulcarverr | you realize |
| 21:28.12 | soulcarverr | politicfact... is a liberal site right... |
| 21:28.14 | *** join/#sc2mapster monkalizer (b0449db0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.68.157.176) |
| 21:28.28 | soulcarverr | but ill read it |
| 21:28.33 | monkalizer | are people still whining about election? |
| 21:28.35 | soulcarverr | just to make you happy |
| 21:28.37 | Dustin|Work | Doesnt make that shit that comes out of his mouth real |
| 21:28.45 | DeadZergling | well, politifact is garbage from a quick look |
| 21:28.49 | DeadZergling | Says President Obama has "doubled" the deficit. |
| 21:28.51 | Dustin|Work | Im whining about Mit Romney as a person |
| 21:28.54 | soulcarverr | umm |
| 21:28.58 | soulcarverr | well |
| 21:28.59 | DeadZergling | says that isn't true |
| 21:29.07 | DeadZergling | then do explain the extra 6 trillion in national debt |
| 21:29.08 | soulcarverr | his first couple statements are true..... |
| 21:29.09 | monkalizer | I have a more map-related issue |
| 21:29.12 | soulcarverr | but they have it marked not true |
| 21:29.18 | DeadZergling | sheeple I tell you, lol |
| 21:29.19 | soulcarverr | cant say this is a very usefull site... |
| 21:29.35 | soulcarverr | "Regulations have quadrupled. The rate of regulations quadrupled under this president." |
| 21:29.41 | soulcarverr | thats actually true |
| 21:29.44 | soulcarverr | if you talk about epa |
| 21:29.50 | soulcarverr | and obamacare regulations |
| 21:30.04 | soulcarverr | apparently politifact didnt get the memo |
| 21:30.18 | Taintedwisp | All I know is this... Under obama.. i have heard that... you cant say that now because have have a black president bullshit way too mcuh |
| 21:30.19 | soulcarverr | it may be a tad exagerated but |
| 21:30.39 | soulcarverr | "In one year, (President Obama) provided $90 billion in breaks to the green energy world … into solar and wind, to Solyndra and Fisker and Tesla and Ener1." |
| 21:30.56 | soulcarverr | thats actually a true statement..... if you look at the stimulous spending |
| 21:30.58 | soulcarverr | ..... |
| 21:31.06 | Taintedwisp | Actually Soulcarverr I support that, but I dont think its enough |
| 21:31.06 | soulcarverr | Obama even admits it |
| 21:31.10 | Taintedwisp | Cleaner energy is great |
| 21:31.14 | soulcarverr | umm |
| 21:31.17 | soulcarverr | except |
| 21:31.18 | Taintedwisp | and if they can throw money at it to make it cheaper thats fine |
| 21:31.22 | soulcarverr | they just pocketed the money |
| 21:31.22 | Dustin|Work | Fuck ya it is |
| 21:31.24 | soulcarverr | and ran |
| 21:31.28 | Taintedwisp | yeah I know they did |
| 21:31.35 | soulcarverr | that |
| 21:31.39 | Taintedwisp | Well dustin hes right though the Clean energy prices remain the same |
| 21:31.41 | Taintedwisp | they just kept it... |
| 21:31.49 | soulcarverr | and its about 50 years worth the money we provide for oil companies |
| 21:32.03 | soulcarverr | and dems complain all the time about subsidies to oil companies |
| 21:32.27 | Taintedwisp | All I know is this... I dont have a fucking job and I went out today and atleast 4 of the buisnesses I talked to are going out... some have been together for over 25 years |
| 21:32.31 | soulcarverr | Says President Obama has "doubled" the deficit. Almost true |
| 21:32.37 | soulcarverr | but he has increased it |
| 21:32.46 | soulcarverr | and by the time hes done will more then likely double it |
| 21:32.58 | soulcarverr | "Right now, the (Congressional Budget Office) says up to 20 million people will lose their insurance as Obamacare goes into effect next year." |
| 21:33.03 | soulcarverr | this is true as well |
| 21:33.10 | Dustin|Work | I never heard 1 word of HOW mit romney was going to fix anything |
| 21:33.18 | soulcarverr | sure they did |
| 21:33.23 | soulcarverr | decrease regulation |
| 21:33.25 | soulcarverr | lower taxes |
| 21:33.28 | Dustin|Work | IT was "Close general loophole this, make more jobs that" |
| 21:33.32 | soulcarverr | increase economic activity |
| 21:33.42 | Triceron | that is so vague |
| 21:33.44 | Dustin|Work | Math my friend |
| 21:33.47 | soulcarverr | ? |
| 21:33.47 | Dustin|Work | And yes it is |
| 21:33.48 | soulcarverr | math? |
| 21:33.49 | Triceron | 'increase economic activity' |
| 21:33.56 | Triceron | that's like saying magic beans |
| 21:33.59 | soulcarverr | yeah increase economic activity |
| 21:34.02 | soulcarverr | not really |
| 21:34.04 | Triceron | how |
| 21:34.09 | Triceron | 'lower taxes' |
| 21:34.11 | Dustin|Work | Thats all romneys campaigns was |
| 21:34.14 | soulcarverr | lowering taxes does just that |
| 21:34.14 | Dustin|Work | MAGIC BEANS |
| 21:34.18 | Taintedwisp | Obama never said how he was going to fix anyhting either |
| 21:34.19 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 21:34.22 | Dustin|Work | Believe me, they will grow if you elect me |
| 21:34.22 | soulcarverr | if you lowered taxes for my employer |
| 21:34.24 | Triceron | that's not a plan |
| 21:34.27 | soulcarverr | they would spend more money |
| 21:34.31 | Taintedwisp | They are politicians... A TRUE LEADER could never survive politics |
| 21:34.36 | Dustin|Work | You want to know how these beans work? TO BAD, Elect me frist |
| 21:35.08 | Triceron | you know companies want to keep the money they make more than they want to give it out |
| 21:35.11 | Taintedwisp | By the way Legalizing Weed would fuck the economy not help it |
| 21:35.24 | Dustin|Work | No |
| 21:35.27 | Dustin|Work | It would help it alot |
| 21:35.29 | Taintedwisp | Weed would replace many industries and would require less workers. |
| 21:35.35 | Triceron | if they find a cheaper alternative to anything, they will take it. That includes looking local. You'd need a HUGE tax break to allow that sort of thing to happen. |
| 21:35.50 | Triceron | esp when you're dealing with competition outside of the US |
| 21:35.52 | soulcarverr | Taxes are killing our economy |
| 21:35.58 | soulcarverr | regulations are as well |
| 21:35.59 | Taintedwisp | It would replace paper, Home building materials, Medicine, Tobacco, alcohol... well maybe not that last one |
| 21:36.06 | soulcarverr | I work for a small family business |
| 21:36.11 | soulcarverr | when taxes go out |
| 21:36.16 | soulcarverr | when taxes go u |
| 21:36.18 | soulcarverr | up |
| 21:36.21 | soulcarverr | our paychecks go down |
| 21:36.24 | soulcarverr | its that tight |
| 21:36.30 | soulcarverr | its hard to invest in the business |
| 21:36.33 | soulcarverr | when the gov |
| 21:36.41 | Triceron | regulations are a long-term benefit tbh. Take away the regulations, sure you'll solve a short term problem, but you'll lead yourself deeper into a pit later on |
| 21:36.42 | soulcarverr | takes all your profits |
| 21:36.47 | Taintedwisp | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:36.48 | soulcarverr | no they arnt |
| 21:36.51 | Dustin|Work | Ill admit there's alot of shit that needs fixed |
| 21:36.57 | soulcarverr | Dustin |
| 21:36.58 | soulcarverr | DEMS |
| 21:36.59 | Taintedwisp | 80% of your yearly earnings if your rich... |
| 21:37.00 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 21:37.00 | soulcarverr | DONT |
| 21:37.01 | Dustin|Work | But I dont think ROmney would have fixed it |
| 21:37.02 | soulcarverr | FIX ANYTHING |
| 21:37.07 | Triceron | lol |
| 21:37.08 | soulcarverr | the dems will never fix a thing |
| 21:37.08 | Dustin|Work | See |
| 21:37.11 | soulcarverr | they dont have to |
| 21:37.15 | monkalizer | lowering taxes is usually not a very good measure to increase economic activity. It boosts the economy in the short term but in the long term companies adapt to the new settings and things go back to normal. It goes the other way too (increased taxes -> economic problems, long run:adaptation) The biggest problem for businesses is uncertainty. If they dont know what the future is to be like they dont know how to hedge against |
| 21:37.24 | Dustin|Work | I dont group shit into DEMS AND RUPUBS |
| 21:37.33 | soulcarverr | why not |
| 21:37.43 | Dustin|Work | Because that's a stupid way to group things |
| 21:37.44 | soulcarverr | its what they have next to their name |
| 21:37.47 | Taintedwisp | Perhaps Abolish Corporations of over a certain size.. or Create an embargo..... |
| 21:37.49 | Triceron | you know the shit hole your economy is in is due to Bush's legacy :P |
| 21:37.49 | DeadZergling | sure about that, nice term for Republicans there? |
| 21:37.53 | soulcarverr | .... its how they group themselvs.... |
| 21:37.54 | Triceron | Obama just inherited the mess |
| 21:38.01 | Dustin|Work | It caters to people who are to lazy to learn about a politicians views |
| 21:38.03 | Taintedwisp | No products that were made in china allowed in america |
| 21:38.03 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 21:38.10 | DeadZergling | Obama inherited a mess, and took a shit in it |
| 21:38.10 | soulcarverr | Dustin |
| 21:38.10 | monkalizer | Best way to improve job market and release those cash piles that companies in us and amerca has (they have shitloads) is to lower risks = bipartisan solutions |
| 21:38.19 | soulcarverr | ....... |
| 21:38.22 | Taintedwisp | Obama inherited a mess, and threw more shit on top of it |
| 21:38.23 | Triceron | you guys would be so screwed if you did an embargo on chinese products lol |
| 21:38.27 | A1win | why are you talking politics, go make maps |
| 21:38.27 | DeadZergling | The people have spoken, they wish for Obama to crap again. |
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| 21:38.42 | Triceron | no pc products, bye bye |
| 21:38.46 | Zolden | A1win: nice note |
| 21:38.47 | soulcarverr | private entities have a right to stock pile cash |
| 21:39.05 | monkalizer | Just because something happens during a precidency does not mean that this person is to blame for it. Its rather the political system, which applies to both europe and US |
| 21:39.06 | soulcarverr | people seem to forget that |
| 21:39.09 | Triceron | tv gone. consoles gone. phones gone. |
| 21:39.20 | Triceron | back to the 1400s! |
| 21:39.25 | Dustin|Work | Wait wait |
| 21:39.29 | Taintedwisp | haha yeah they can stock pile, but if its over a certain amount on that pile then a large cut should be taken |
| 21:39.30 | Dustin|Work | If DEMS NEVER FIX ANYTHING |
| 21:39.31 | Zolden | americans don't need china to produce marijuana, so they'll be fine |
| 21:39.39 | soulcarverr | they dont |
| 21:39.44 | Taintedwisp | Its liek Gold sinks put into WoW, they are there to keep inflation down |
| 21:39.47 | Dustin|Work | How the fuck was our economy so good during CLinton |
| 21:39.54 | Saeris | just because private entities can stockpile cash doesn't mean that it's a good thing for the rest of the economy. saving money only really benefits that entity |
| 21:39.55 | Triceron | Osama bin laden killed himself, remember |
| 21:39.58 | Dustin|Work | Onnly to get fucked up by repubs? |
| 21:40.04 | Taintedwisp | Clinton wasnt a DEM |
| 21:40.08 | monkalizer | You could have a hamburger for president. It would work as long as the congress would be able make decisions in a direction that increases certainty |
| 21:40.13 | soulcarverr | there was nothing wrong when Clinton got in office |
| 21:40.13 | Dustin|Work | Yes he was |
| 21:40.15 | Dustin|Work | and is |
| 21:40.17 | Taintedwisp | CLINTON WAS A REPUB HAHA SCRUb |
| 21:40.18 | Exaken | Yesterday I could login to the beta, today it says I've no game accounts... strange |
| 21:40.20 | soulcarverr | all he had to do was not fuck it up |
| 21:40.21 | Taintedwisp | No he wasnt |
| 21:40.30 | Dustin|Work | And he not fucked it up into prosperity |
| 21:40.30 | soulcarverr | and Clinton is way more Middle of the road then Obama |
| 21:40.40 | Zolden | there is inflation in WoW? |
| 21:40.41 | soulcarverr | Obama = far left..... Clinton = middle |
| 21:41.05 | A1win | economy is only small part of WoW because gear is soulbound |
| 21:41.14 | soulcarverr | Clinton was a repub compared to Obama |
| 21:41.16 | A1win | it doesn't really matter much there |
| 21:41.18 | Triceron | there's always inflation in WoW |
| 21:41.30 | Triceron | aside from NPCs |
| 21:41.50 | Triceron | auction hall prices always flux |
| 21:42.00 | Zolden | cool |
| 21:42.21 | monkalizer | have anyone tried out the new battle nets ingame-links? |
| 21:42.28 | monkalizer | i dont have the beta |
| 21:42.36 | Dustin|Work | Nope but I love the idea |
| 21:42.37 | Triceron | is there an ingame browser or what? |
| 21:42.43 | Dustin|Work | It's for maps |
| 21:42.48 | Triceron | opens up your native browser? |
| 21:42.49 | Dustin|Work | So you can link the chat your map page |
| 21:42.57 | monkalizer | no but i saw a list of new features on mapster and it was there |
| 21:43.06 | Dustin|Work | No, opens up the game info to your map |
| 21:43.42 | Saeris | chat links aught to link to game lobbys |
| 21:43.45 | Taintedwisp | I retract my statement I guess clinton was a democrat... Then WTF... why in 2000 did they say gore would have been our first Democrat Since Jimmy Carter... |
| 21:43.56 | Saeris | hey guys join my game! link |
| 21:44.07 | monkalizer | I have been whining about this in different forums over the past month or two, so I was just interested if they implemented the feature the way I wanted :P |
| 21:44.41 | Dustin|Work | I think it just gives you a link like sc2map:20324/234 and clicking on that ingame will load up that map |
| 21:44.48 | Dustin|Work | Sounds like you can click it from outside sc2 |
| 21:44.50 | monkalizer | but is the link still inside the game or Chrome/Explorer? |
| 21:44.50 | Dustin|Work | But I dont knpw |
| 21:44.55 | Exaken | I tried it |
| 21:44.59 | monkalizer | ah ok |
| 21:45.08 | monkalizer | first step :) |
| 21:45.08 | Exaken | but chrome doesn't know what to do with it |
| 21:45.11 | Saeris | it's a chat link |
| 21:45.19 | Taintedwisp | It worked in my chrome |
| 21:45.24 | Saeris | just like achievement links or item links in DIablo/WoW |
| 21:45.41 | monkalizer | hm |
| 21:45.51 | monkalizer | well... there is still time... |
| 21:45.53 | Ahli | artestru made something with the link. I think tinyurl, then it worked for me, too |
| 21:46.01 | Ahli | in my browser |
| 21:46.04 | Dustin|Work | interesting |
| 21:46.07 | *** join/#sc2mapster RazielZ (Raziel@2a01:388:201:4190:b040:f008:16:fe28) |
| 21:46.08 | Dustin|Work | Thatll be sweet as fuck |
| 21:46.14 | Dustin|Work | To link to the actual map on the outisde |
| 21:46.37 | monkalizer | yeah because then you could send game invites to your new custom game through twitter etc. or skype |
| 21:46.41 | Ahli | at least I know that I clicked his link and it loaded my profile. I wrote my profile link in the chat before and it was text only :S |
| 21:47.23 | Ahli | then you can include the map directly in the project threads, etc |
| 21:47.32 | monkalizer | Well, seems like my message got through anyway. Or perhaps somebody on the inside was as clever as me :) |
| 21:47.54 | Saeris | brb, gonna check this out |
| 21:47.57 | monkalizer | *taps self on head* |
| 21:48.10 | Taintedwisp | MWHAHA EVERYONE SPAM HUSKYSTARCRAFT WITH TINY URL VERSIONS !!! haah |
| 21:48.25 | monkalizer | hehe poor guy |
| 21:49.39 | Saeris | starcraft://profile/98/12493841885883793408 |
| 21:49.50 | Saeris | yup does work |
| 21:50.01 | Taintedwisp | Not showing as a link fo rme |
| 21:50.03 | Ahli | not for meh |
| 21:50.03 | Saeris | opens the client to get to your profile in game |
| 21:50.16 | Exaken | It open a google search for me in chrome |
| 21:50.22 | Triceron | lol omg tainted you really thought Clinton was a republican wtf |
| 21:50.27 | Ahli | http://tinyurl.com/bnavu4w |
| 21:50.28 | Taintedwisp | http://tinyurl.com/bnavu4w |
| 21:50.28 | Saeris | that's cuz you don't have the beta |
| 21:50.34 | monkalizer | yeah same for me, can be that only IE can handle it |
| 21:50.45 | Exaken | Yup that works, if I could login |
| 21:51.04 | Taintedwisp | Yeah Trice to be honest :P, but I was going off of something the news had said during the bush election.... soooo |
| 21:51.05 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:51.21 | monkalizer | stupid me - i dont have the beta! |
| 21:51.24 | Saeris | so the new SC2 client adds a browser extension or something similar to bittorrent for magnet links |
| 21:51.43 | Saeris | when one of the links is opened the browser just confirms what application to open the link with |
| 21:51.53 | Taintedwisp | HEy wanna know something funny? |
| 21:52.01 | Taintedwisp | I have 2 beta accounts on my one account |
| 21:52.02 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 21:52.22 | Exaken | hax |
| 21:52.24 | monkalizer | One of the reasons I wanted this is because then you can embed your links to campaign maps from the internet. Right now my HercMerc system is scattered across many maps and can be hard to find. Navigating to them from a webpage would solve that problem. |
| 21:52.48 | Saeris | links still need to work for lobbies imo |
| 21:52.51 | monkalizer | Taintedwisp: two computers? They only add the computers they want |
| 21:52.53 | Taintedwisp | Your just mad because you dont have 1 and I have 2 |
| 21:52.54 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 21:52.57 | Saeris | sure people will spam chat trying to fill their games |
| 21:53.05 | Taintedwisp | No I have 2 Beta accounts on my battle.net account |
| 21:53.07 | Exaken | I had one, but it's gone |
| 21:53.07 | Saeris | but that'd be a good thing, considering there will never be named lobbies |
| 21:53.21 | zlefin | you should give one of yours away :P |
| 21:53.23 | monkalizer | Saeris: nice! well then it works as I wanted |
| 21:53.38 | Saeris | dunno if it does atm monk |
| 21:53.59 | Taintedwisp | I cant give one away |
| 21:54.01 | Taintedwisp | or i would |
| 21:54.07 | Taintedwisp | http://i.imgur.com/8vwFE.png |
| 21:54.08 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 21:54.12 | Taintedwisp | I was signed up twice |
| 21:54.22 | Saeris | yea you can't link lobbies yet |
| 21:54.28 | Saeris | needs to happen |
| 21:54.31 | Exaken | How where you signed up twice? |
| 21:54.54 | Saeris | actually tainted, it's like that for everyone i think |
| 21:54.58 | Saeris | i've got the same thing going on |
| 21:55.06 | Taintedwisp | ah |
| 21:55.06 | Ahli | 2 is EU 1 is NA |
| 21:55.12 | Taintedwisp | really? |
| 21:55.18 | Ahli | hmm |
| 21:55.19 | Triceron | yeah, it's the same for SC WOL |
| 21:55.25 | Triceron | or something |
| 21:55.34 | Taintedwisp | didnt kow that |
| 21:55.35 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 21:55.37 | Saeris | ahli the beta is region-free |
| 21:55.39 | Ahli | oh no |
| 21:55.46 | Ahli | it is just a raising number |
| 21:55.55 | Ahli | the region is normally below that |
| 21:56.14 | Triceron | one of the versions is actually spyware that will let Blizzard see you through your webcam |
| 21:56.24 | Taintedwisp | HotS is Global play |
| 21:56.28 | Taintedwisp | there is no region locks |
| 21:56.30 | Saeris | might be that theoretically you can log in on two computers with the same account to play with a friend |
| 21:56.33 | Exaken | Luckily I don't have a webcam |
| 21:56.35 | Saeris | gonna check that in a sec |
| 21:56.37 | Taintedwisp | hmm possible |
| 21:56.51 | Saeris | i need to update my laptop first |
| 21:56.52 | monkalizer | Triceron: for what reason? watching all the nerd jerk of? |
| 21:57.32 | Triceron | well it was kinda aimed at Tainted and his previous rants about Microsoft taking away his privacy :P |
| 21:58.23 | monkalizer | uuh poor guy btw, he who got cought in his own webcast jerking of |
| 21:58.35 | Triceron | that's not the worst of it |
| 21:58.41 | Triceron | some other dude, I think a LoL player |
| 21:58.48 | Triceron | forgot to turn off his stream |
| 21:58.51 | Triceron | had sex with his gf |
| 21:58.56 | Triceron | found out the next morning the stream was running |
| 21:59.10 | Saeris | yea gonna be a while before i get this working |
| 21:59.13 | Taintedwisp | hahhaha |
| 21:59.16 | monkalizer | brrr |
| 21:59.41 | Taintedwisp | Triceron had sex with his boyfriend... but no one watches his streamanyways |
| 21:59.45 | Saeris | LoL player was caught masturbating, WoW player caught having sex. saw the article on kotaku the other day |
| 22:00.05 | monkalizer | Day9 has his bed right behind his computer. It seems like a very volatile decision... 8( |
| 22:00.29 | Triceron | WoW that's what it was |
| 22:00.41 | Taintedwisp | What a dark day we live in... where WoW players get laid... |
| 22:00.52 | Taintedwisp | Women have thrown away their standards |
| 22:01.31 | monkalizer | I have put some tape + paper on my laptops cam, just to be sure :( not neccissarily for jerking of, but I started looking at these youtube videos of people getting spied on using the cam |
| 22:01.53 | Taintedwisp | QUIT SPANKIN IT INFRONT OF YOUR COMPUTER SICKO!!! |
| 22:01.57 | monkalizer | oh the paranoia |
| 22:02.09 | Taintedwisp | Go buy a magazine.. |
| 22:02.40 | Saeris | brb |
| 22:05.38 | monkalizer | Taintedwisp: now you know what I'm doing when I'm not typing |
| 22:05.42 | monkalizer | ^^ |
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| 22:06.29 | Saeris | hmmm, looks like blizzard couldn't fit 3 games releases into one year after all |
| 22:06.44 | Saeris | http://kotaku.com/5958659/starcraft-ii-heart-of-the-swarm-will-miss-2012 |
| 22:06.45 | TheSkunk__ | No surprise |
| 22:06.50 | Triceron | HOTS wasn't ever gonna hit 2012 |
| 22:07.25 | monkalizer | to hot year for hots |
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| 22:07.36 | ThunderLord | Bacl |
| 22:07.40 | TheSkunk__ | depends who you ask; back when WoL came out nobody could imagine it taking 3 years |
| 22:07.51 | Triceron | I could :P |
| 22:07.52 | TheSkunk__ | we were all so happy and optimistic |
| 22:08.10 | Triceron | when it comes to release dates, always add a couple years haha |
| 22:08.29 | ThunderLord | Hey Triceron, is that Archer model available anywhere or is that restricted? |
| 22:08.30 | TheSkunk__ | Yeah, but they try not to make expansions take too long usually |
| 22:08.35 | Triceron | you can expect it to be released later, not earlier. I'll be surprised when they release early |
| 22:08.43 | TheSkunk__ | from how the beta was going I expected it anyway |
| 22:08.46 | Triceron | it's not released publicly |
| 22:09.02 | Triceron | only the footman is public use |
| 22:09.23 | monkalizer | They probably added a couple of months because of the reddit thingy got some more time to think about things |
| 22:09.35 | Saeris | reaction to the beta is probably what pushed it back |
| 22:09.51 | Triceron | well they're still heavily balancing it |
| 22:10.19 | Triceron | the interview with David Kim had em saying they're still looking at redesigning some of the WoL units like Raven and Void Ray |
| 22:10.23 | monkalizer | yeah that was what I ment, and also to be able to make adjustments to the social features, so that they work as the community wants |
| 22:10.28 | Saeris | according to david kim, the unit designs are complete in his opinion. all numbers tweaking now |
| 22:10.48 | monkalizer | where is the intervew |
| 22:10.49 | Saeris | that's from the interview he gave in korea earlier this week |
| 22:11.03 | TheSkunk__ | Actually, they said they'd let it sit befor a couple of weeks before he decided not to tweak design |
| 22:11.06 | TheSkunk__ | from what I read |
| 22:11.14 | Triceron | oh so they're not gonna |
| 22:11.15 | Triceron | hrm |
| 22:11.19 | ThunderLord | is it like... available on request? or am i to just, sit here and wish that i had that sexy archer in my game |
| 22:11.21 | Triceron | that kinda sucks |
| 22:11.51 | Triceron | you're just gonna have to wait. I'm waiting on HOTS and news of marketplace before I do any full blown release |
| 22:12.01 | ThunderLord | ahhh i see |
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| 22:12.36 | Saeris | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=380463¤tpage=2#38 |
| 22:12.36 | ThunderLord | well thats cool then i guess, |
| 22:12.42 | Saeris | summarized translationb |
| 22:16.30 | ThunderLord | thats cool |
| 22:17.38 | Triceron | what was changed to reapers in HOTS again? |
| 22:17.53 | Triceron | they had sight of cliffs |
| 22:17.58 | Triceron | did they have something else? |
| 22:18.35 | ThunderLord | out of combat self healing |
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| 22:20.23 | monkalizer | A feature I think Blizzard should build is a balance reporter at battle.net |
| 22:20.45 | monkalizer | like a webform where you can complain about certain units balance issues |
| 22:21.05 | monkalizer | it would help the developers for sure |
| 22:21.18 | Triceron | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:21.35 | monkalizer | Perhaps put some discussions on balance out, which is both a good and bad thing of course |
| 22:22.21 | Triceron | well they're balancing based on pro level |
| 22:22.51 | Triceron | they make adjustments based on what's happening on the high level, and letting the rest of the balance trickle down from there |
| 22:23.15 | Dustin|Work | WE CAN NOT STAND FOR SC2 TRICKLE DOWN BALANCING! |
| 22:23.25 | Triceron | that's why we're mappers :P |
| 22:23.29 | Dustin|Work | hehe |
| 22:23.42 | Dustin|Work | I use to care about SC melee, back in BW |
| 22:23.50 | Dustin|Work | Now IDGAF |
| 22:23.58 | Triceron | I still find BW fun to watch |
| 22:24.04 | Triceron | but I can't imagine how the hell people play it |
| 22:24.26 | Dustin|Work | I might get down on some BW tonight |
| 22:24.38 | Triceron | the lack of features blows my mind. Like the whole muta control, you gotta use multiple ctrl groups making em fly together O_o |
| 22:24.55 | Dustin|Work | That's just engine restrictions |
| 22:25.13 | Dustin|Work | I always had 1-9 groups full of Hydras |
| 22:25.34 | Dustin|Work | I think it made me micro better |
| 22:25.39 | Triceron | no rally points, no queues, no multiple building selection |
| 22:25.44 | monkalizer | failures that becomes a feature :) |
| 22:25.48 | Triceron | I really can't go back |
| 22:26.22 | Triceron | unlimited unit selection I think could be modified |
| 22:26.44 | Triceron | at least to the point where deathballs require multiple groups |
| 22:26.52 | Triceron | not 1A |
| 22:27.13 | Dustin|Work | Shit I gotta catch the bus tonight, cya guys after I get home |
| 22:28.46 | Triceron | I wonder if they're gonna add freezing deaths in HOTS campaign |
| 22:30.06 | monkalizer | it would require remodelling deaths for all units |
| 22:30.42 | monkalizer | what is there to choose from now? acid, fire and explosion? |
| 22:31.04 | Triceron | there's slice deaths too |
| 22:31.17 | monkalizer | k |
| 22:31.36 | monkalizer | for melee attacks i guess |
| 22:31.52 | Triceron | and yeah, it'd require some new modelling tricks stuff, but for their campaign they could control it to whatever units are shown in those ice stages |
| 22:32.19 | Triceron | I just thought it'd be cool if the environment stuff affected unit deaths |
| 22:32.46 | Triceron | and ice damage would be cool to have for custom map stuff :P |
| 22:33.00 | monkalizer | yep |
| 22:35.06 | monkalizer | random fact about sleeping: a couple of hundred years ago (dont know exactly when) the sleeping habit of people were in fact such that they slept two-times a night. First they slept the "rough sleep" when they slept of the physical weariness. Then got up and walked about and continued with their "fine slep" |
| 22:35.41 | Triceron | that sounds like the anti-nap |
| 22:36.03 | monkalizer | Triceron: whats that? |
| 22:36.23 | Triceron | sounds like the total opposite of a nap |
| 22:36.38 | Triceron | instead of sleeping in the day, you're waking at night |
| 22:37.01 | Triceron | anti-nap |
| 22:37.12 | monkalizer | ah yeah |
| 22:37.56 | monkalizer | when people got home from their farm/forest work they were so tired they just ate and slept. Then during night they did some handcrafting or something, and socialized |
| 22:38.32 | monkalizer | With industrualization this changed, since the factories required more regular sleeping habits |
| 22:38.36 | DeadZergling | that was one of the issues w/ BW though dustin, especially for zerg |
| 22:38.46 | DeadZergling | too many units to possibly fit in all your control groups |
| 22:39.34 | DeadZergling | This was problematic for my strategies sometimes, had a real habit of making mass amounts of zerglings |
| 22:40.51 | DeadZergling | if the game progressed long enough, I'd even make hydralisks, lol |
| 22:56.39 | ThunderLord | tRICERON WHAT RACE ARE U? |
| 22:56.44 | ThunderLord | sorry caps lock lol |
| 22:56.51 | Triceron | human |
| 22:57.01 | ThunderLord | Terran or Zerg? |
| 22:57.10 | ThunderLord | just curious |
| 22:57.20 | Triceron | sc2? |
| 22:57.22 | ThunderLord | im protoss, and i think the nerf to the death ball should be a buff to vikings |
| 22:57.28 | Triceron | i doon't play melee |
| 22:57.32 | ThunderLord | not unit selection lol |
| 22:57.33 | Triceron | i mostly watch |
| 22:59.32 | Triceron | i guess I prefer watching Zerg |
| 23:00.22 | Triceron | mostly because I think Terrans are too cheesy/OP in that they have defended expansions and mules; and I hate Protoss deathballs |
| 23:00.50 | Triceron | but I also hate watching Zerg hit the late game Infestor/Brood Lord combos, or mass roach standstills in ZvZ |
| 23:01.16 | Triceron | TVZ is prolly my fave matchup |
| 23:03.47 | ThunderLord | Did u see MLG dallas? i was there, like 50 epic TVZs in a row |
| 23:05.28 | Dustin | Thunder |
| 23:09.49 | Triceron | a lot of the recent tourneys have almost no terrans |
| 23:10.00 | Triceron | I guess that's due to the 1.5 changes or something? |
| 23:10.05 | Triceron | queens with range? |
| 23:10.15 | Triceron | I can't really figure how that all went down |
| 23:10.41 | Triceron | I came back to watching tourneys about a month or so ago, so everything's so different |
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| 23:14.47 | DeadZergling | terran players i saw last weekend triceron, they looked pretty passive compared to the zergs |
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| 23:28.27 | DeadZergling | for so many in here, sure is quiet |
| 23:28.59 | Zolden | i never heard a sentence from most of them |
| 23:29.03 | Zolden | they are ghosts |
| 23:29.32 | Zolden | who's Ahli, for example |
| 23:29.41 | Zolden | he's always here, but never says anything |
| 23:29.43 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 23:29.46 | Ahli | never |
| 23:29.51 | Zolden | or that Taintedwisp |
| 23:29.57 | Zolden | fucking ghosts |
| 23:30.10 | DeadZergling | Taintedwisp, the overchatty ghost |
| 23:30.16 | DeadZergling | He is the pinkie pie of the channel :P |
| 23:30.34 | monkalizer | They are zombies! |
| 23:31.10 | Zolden | or mutants |
| 23:31.23 | DeadZergling | well mutants are okay |
| 23:31.30 | DeadZergling | as long as they are also teenage, and turtles, and ninja |
| 23:31.47 | monkalizer | sometimes I wonder how many are blizzard employees in disguise, or competitors |
| 23:31.56 | Zolden | one day they'll synchronously awake and start spamming a sentence like "triggers are better then data" |
| 23:32.27 | monkalizer | its nighttime in eurozone |
| 23:32.53 | Zolden | or will hack our maps and replace all models with a poop model |
| 23:32.55 | DeadZergling | about 10 am in australia |
| 23:33.14 | Zolden | 10 am? omg! I never awake so early |
| 23:33.30 | monkalizer | hehe your sleeping habits are not good Zolden |
| 23:33.37 | Zolden | working on it |
| 23:33.51 | Zolden | yesterday went sleep 10 minutes earlier |
| 23:33.58 | monkalizer | hm |
| 23:33.58 | DeadZergling | I don't care much for being awake before 1 or 2 pm |
| 23:34.02 | Zolden | so, today I saw 10 minutes of pure sun |
| 23:34.08 | DeadZergling | unfortunately I have to be up much sooner on a daily basis |
| 23:34.41 | monkalizer | hm batterydeath is coming gtg |
| 23:35.34 | Triceron | you can see the sun where you live? |
| 23:35.46 | Triceron | it's been overcast here for a month |
| 23:36.52 | Zolden | I live in a country where sun appearence is as frequent and prolonged like a rainbow |
| 23:37.23 | Zolden | today was just a kind of miracle |
| 23:38.14 | Zolden | overcast here is sinonimous to sky |
| 23:38.48 | Zolden | and ground's sinonimous to liquid dirt |
| 23:39.09 | Zolden | roads sinonimous to liquid dirt |
| 23:39.51 | Triceron | where you from Zolden? |
| 23:40.19 | Zolden | oh, it's so easy to guess after what i've jsut said |
| 23:44.25 | shawn_ | Triggers are better than data |
| 23:45.12 | Zolden | OMG THEY ARE HERE |
| 23:45.12 | shawn_ | Bounty one time wanted to type every name in the chat to ping every user just to see what would happen |
| 23:46.15 | Zolden | Triceron, now guess: |
| 23:46.17 | Zolden | http://byaki.net/uploads/posts/2012-04/1335278724_welcome_to_russia_08_1.jpg |
| 23:46.26 | Zolden | http://byaki.net/uploads/posts/2012-04/1335278734_welcome_to_russia_13_1.jpg |
| 23:46.34 | Zolden | http://byaki.net/uploads/posts/2012-04/1335278744_welcome_to_russia_26_1.jpg |
| 23:46.47 | Zolden | http://byaki.net/uploads/posts/2012-04/1335278814_welcome_to_russia_59_1.jpg |
| 23:46.55 | Zolden | http://byaki.net/uploads/posts/2012-04/1335278732_welcome_to_russia_02_1.jpg |
| 23:47.06 | Zolden | http://byaki.net/uploads/posts/2012-04/1335278748_welcome_to_russia_23_1.jpg |
| 23:47.12 | Zolden | http://byaki.net/uploads/posts/2012-04/1335278724_welcome_to_russia_11_1.jpg |
| 23:47.19 | Zolden | http://byaki.net/uploads/posts/2012-04/1335278720_welcome_to_russia_42_1.jpg |
| 23:47.19 | DeadZergling | you you must be the santa digging in the garbage |
| 23:47.25 | DeadZergling | did I guess right? |
| 23:47.27 | Zolden | http://byaki.net/uploads/posts/2012-04/1335278743_welcome_to_russia_41_1.jpg |
| 23:47.52 | Zolden | i'm the bear making photo of santa diggind garbage |
| 23:48.17 | Zolden | http://byaki.net/uploads/posts/2012-04/1335278732_welcome_to_russia_02_1.jpg |
| 23:48.25 | Zolden | one of these |
| 23:50.29 | Zolden | and the last one |
| 23:50.30 | Zolden | http://byaki.net/uploads/posts/2012-04/1335278709_welcome_to_russia_06_1.jpg |
| 23:50.46 | Ahli | ;D |
| 23:52.45 | Dustin | Anyone need a Dota2 beta? |
| 23:53.12 | Lajjla | So, it doesn't view the background in the galaxy editor any more, even on 'use game view settings', but it's just fine in game, I assume I accidentally turned something off, how to turn it on again? |
| 23:53.54 | shawn_ | Why would anyone want dota2 beta? |
| 23:54.00 | shawn_ | Garbage imo |
| 23:54.03 | Dustin | Because some people like it |
| 23:54.22 | Lajjla | shawn_, free and arguably the best moba out there. |
| 23:54.29 | Dustin | I prefer HoN, but that's be |
| 23:54.31 | Dustin | me* |
| 23:54.41 | shawn_ | HoN is the best out now |
| 23:55.53 | zlefin | i scoff at hon |
| 23:55.59 | shawn_ | Dota 2 needs some mods to make it user friendly |
| 23:56.20 | shawn_ | Then maybe it will be worth playing |
| 23:57.42 | Dustin | I just feel its to slow |
| 23:57.54 | shawn_ | hon is the most fast paced |
| 23:58.01 | Dustin | Yeah, I like that |
| 23:58.13 | shawn_ | team fights last seconds instead of a minute or more |
| 23:58.16 | Dustin | Its the same reason I like Street Fighter over Mortal Kombat |
| 23:59.06 | shawn_ | And of course hon is free |
| 23:59.20 | shawn_ | So the free argument is completely invalid |
| 23:59.54 | Dustin | All this talk about S2 Games makes me want to paly some Savage 2 |
