| 00:00.01 | Triceron | *steam tanks |
| 00:00.15 | Triceron | I'm here |
| 00:00.44 | zlefin | it certainly helps to include more categories of things, as well as the existence of cross-category units |
| 00:00.57 | Bounty | New Haunted Forest reaction video up, this is a really good one lol |
| 00:00.58 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADUknvDLZ5s |
| 00:03.04 | Triceron | one of the issues I find with SC2 is that it's muddling the 'rock paper scissors' effect that units had to counter each other. You tend to have a lot of Efficient units, OP Specialized units, and Useless units. |
| 00:03.26 | DeadZergling | was just curious on your opinion of how hard it'd be to learn howt o make missile/splat models |
| 00:03.45 | DeadZergling | I'm pretty sure I don't have the talent/time to do full models, but those I can see myself possibly doing |
| 00:03.47 | egod | yeah well |
| 00:03.53 | zlefin | aye, that is a concern, useless unist are just bad design |
| 00:04.19 | egod | if i smoke tons of weeds and i play Forest Haunted, i guess i will have fun like those guys |
| 00:04.20 | Triceron | I haven't integrated any models as missiles yet. I've been wanting to test but my data guy is really slow to work with. From what I know though it shouldn't be very difficult, just making custom models |
| 00:04.25 | Triceron | I don't really know what splats are though |
| 00:04.39 | DeadZergling | the cursor that pops up |
| 00:04.44 | DeadZergling | when you want to use an AE ability |
| 00:05.50 | Triceron | it's not just the useless units, but some of the specialized units as well. The Brood Lord, for example, is a very specialized unit that helps counter ground units from a safe distance; but they also make free fodder troops which makes them more powerful than they should be. |
| 00:07.12 | Triceron | also being units morphed from AA units means you will have a few corruptors around; as well the fact that most air AA units are prone to fungals, Brood Lords are difficult to counter |
| 00:07.51 | zlefin | yeah; good points |
| 00:08.00 | zlefin | though fungal is mostly just because they made fungal glaringly overpowered |
| 00:08.11 | Triceron | that too |
| 00:08.22 | Triceron | in Brood War, you never had spells that both did damage and rooted |
| 00:08.27 | zlefin | aye |
| 00:08.35 | zlefin | queen's entangle was a perfectly useful spell |
| 00:08.41 | zlefin | and all it did was aoe slow |
| 00:08.48 | zlefin | and attack speed slow |
| 00:09.31 | Triceron | some people have made the argument that hard counters are the problem in SC2; but I don't believe it's a problem with hard counters. It's a problem that some specialized units/abilities counter too many things. |
| 00:09.47 | zlefin | aye, it's a problem of the interaction matrix between units |
| 00:10.39 | zlefin | each unit should ideally be strong vs half the field and weak vs half the field (of units) |
| 00:10.47 | Triceron | I was watching an old Jaedong/Flash game yesterday for kicks. Saw lots of Dark Swarm used, and it's one of those abilities that prevent 100% damage from ranged. That's a hard counter; but it's not OP because it can be effectively countered or worked around. |
| 00:10.48 | zlefin | with perhaps higher tier units being more like 60/40 |
| 00:11.00 | zlefin | it also doesn't stop splash |
| 00:11.05 | DeadZergling | lol, had me a little fun w/ this ability: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qG99JqbYao&feature=youtu.be |
| 00:11.05 | zlefin | or spell damage |
| 00:11.42 | Triceron | then I watched a game of Slayers Dragon playing for fun making pure ghosts vs Zerg, and he got in a position where he won the game through the Zerg having no counters to all-ghost build, namely because his infestors and overseers were always sniped. |
| 00:12.11 | zlefin | what was he using for detection? |
| 00:12.22 | Triceron | and his huge ground army of roaches would be sniped down or killed with nukes |
| 00:12.28 | Triceron | fungals and overseers |
| 00:12.30 | Taintedwisp | I think I want to map... But Im not sure... HMMM |
| 00:12.35 | Triceron | and even his spore colonies were taken down quickly by ghosts |
| 00:12.35 | Taintedwisp | To map or not to map... |
| 00:12.42 | zlefin | i mean the terran, to spot burrowed units |
| 00:13.09 | Triceron | scans I'm guessing, though I wasn't sure |
| 00:13.16 | Triceron | there weren't many fungals thrown out |
| 00:13.27 | zlefin | mass ghosts can get rather silly vs zerg |
| 00:13.56 | Triceron | I mean it's not a case where it'll always win, but it shows bad design if a situation like this can exist |
| 00:14.06 | zlefin | i've always felt that invisiblity in sc was too strong, attacking with invisilibty is just problematic |
| 00:14.09 | Triceron | kinda like some of the previous Widow Mine problems |
| 00:14.28 | Triceron | yeah, exactly |
| 00:14.31 | zlefin | any kind of invulnerable attack is problematic; and with cloaked units it depends alot on what other options there are for hitting things |
| 00:14.40 | zlefin | i mean, it'd be a lot less of an issue if ATTACK GROUDN existed |
| 00:14.53 | zlefin | then at least splash units could attack ground well |
| 00:14.55 | Triceron | it's made more difficult when units can counter their counter. Overseers Detect, invisible units... kill detection? |
| 00:15.06 | Triceron | Widow mines... Shoot air, killing detection? |
| 00:15.14 | zlefin | aye; |
| 00:15.15 | Taintedwisp | Trice, you should let me get that zerg model you made :P haha |
| 00:15.35 | Taintedwisp | bah I still have to make something for my last hero in my map |
| 00:15.36 | Triceron | it was a prototype I made like years ago |
| 00:15.46 | zlefin | you'd have to fungal them frmo high range to reveal the ghosts, or hide behind spores/whatevertheycallsunkensnowistillthinkofthemassunkens |
| 00:15.47 | Triceron | it doesn't really work, a lot of animation stuff is sorta broken |
| 00:15.48 | Taintedwisp | Does it have all the animations and such needed? |
| 00:15.53 | Taintedwisp | ahh |
| 00:15.54 | Taintedwisp | dang |
| 00:15.58 | Triceron | it has crypt lord animations |
| 00:16.08 | Triceron | and they're kinda stretching |
| 00:16.09 | zlefin | i've always considered switchign the sc invis mechanic to something else, like fade time |
| 00:16.19 | Triceron | like death animation makes it completely flip out |
| 00:16.34 | Taintedwisp | LOL |
| 00:16.56 | Triceron | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D88LOd_pWt8 |
| 00:17.05 | Triceron | you'll see that a lot o the comments say 'BITCH SLAP' |
| 00:17.12 | Triceron | and you can see why |
| 00:17.16 | zlefin | maybe a 1 sec fade time; obviously a lot of rebalance has to occur too |
| 00:17.36 | zlefin | but we all have lots of little things in sc we'd like to see tweaked |
| 00:17.51 | zlefin | i'd also like to see what zerg was like if they were setup to more easily make use of crystal |
| 00:18.10 | Taintedwisp | I still kinda like it haha |
| 00:18.21 | Triceron | IMO invisibility is a fickle matter due to SC's asymmetrical design, and SC2's divergence from that model |
| 00:19.08 | egod | hey Dustin when you gonna release your pathing system^ |
| 00:19.18 | Triceron | Zerg had the most accessible detection, but easily countered. Protoss have the most efficient detection at the expense of tech. Terrans have the most practical detection at the cost of energy. |
| 00:19.37 | zlefin | yeah; |
| 00:19.52 | Triceron | SC2, Zerg detection is difficult to get to, Terrans eventually always have detection available, and Protoss remain more or less the same |
| 00:20.06 | zlefin | yeah |
| 00:20.06 | DeadZergling | zerg detection was fubared big time when corsairs arrived |
| 00:20.11 | DeadZergling | in bw |
| 00:20.28 | Taintedwisp | Hmm, I still have to find Something to use for the last Zerg unit |
| 00:20.44 | Taintedwisp | The charger? I downloaded, looks like a Zergish Dog creature... i dont really like it |
| 00:20.48 | DeadZergling | Lol, I been blowing units up with this all day, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qG99JqbYao&feature=youtu.be |
| 00:20.54 | DeadZergling | it still hasn't gotten old to me |
| 00:21.13 | Triceron | corsairs were what helped balance out Zerg's overabundance of detection, it helped make cloak units viable. You can't exactly stop a terran from having detection without killing all their orbitals in the process, or forcing them to over-mule |
| 00:21.17 | zlefin | protoss detection may be a bit weaker in sc2 pre hots at least |
| 00:21.39 | Triceron | and I still think Mules are OP (even if I prefer playing terrans :P) |
| 00:21.41 | zlefin | or rather, alternate ways of countering it may be less effective, not sure |
| 00:21.47 | zlefin | like psi storm and reaver shots |
| 00:22.18 | Triceron | a dead terran with 1 last base can still effectively mine as well as another with 2 bases and stay in the game :S |
| 00:22.31 | zlefin | yeah, |
| 00:22.41 | zlefin | i don't really like the macro mechanics for sc2 |
| 00:22.53 | zlefin | i mean, orbitals are just SOOOO good |
| 00:23.04 | zlefin | that things like planetary fortresses storing all the scvs during an attack |
| 00:23.14 | zlefin | or jsut the regular command center storing scvs to prevent them from dying during a raid |
| 00:23.19 | zlefin | jsut don't happen much, cuz everything is orbitals |
| 00:24.24 | Triceron | yeah PF's... |
| 00:24.28 | Triceron | so hard to take down |
| 00:24.44 | Triceron | their counter is pretty much 'don't let them make it in the first place' |
| 00:24.49 | *** join/#sc2mapster Zolden (58870015@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.135.0.21) |
| 00:25.03 | zlefin | well, their counter is either siege, or attack somewhere else/contain the enemy |
| 00:25.13 | zlefin | static defenses don't stop containment |
| 00:25.34 | Triceron | at least there's some more viable siege options in HOTS, with the oracle, tempests and the swarm hosts. Will see how it really helps though. |
| 00:25.51 | zlefin | yaeh, i always planned to give zerg better siege options in particular |
| 00:26.00 | Triceron | true, there are always ways around it |
| 00:26.02 | zlefin | it feels like when they made sc2, they ignored some of the lessons of sc3 |
| 00:26.23 | Triceron | I guess it's good that it changes the meta game, but at the same time the other races don't really have much to do the same do they? |
| 00:26.28 | zlefin | like how in wc3, they shifted towards making seige units avialable aerlier, some of them even tier 1 |
| 00:26.52 | zlefin | which limited the feasibility of powerteching behind barricades |
| 00:27.05 | Zolden | Triceron, do you know about the terrain-related dynamic IK thing in the current version of m3 exporter? Like the one colossus has |
| 00:27.12 | Zolden | I mean is it implemented? |
| 00:27.30 | Taintedwisp | Okay I just got some Insipration on what to do for the last hero |
| 00:28.04 | Triceron | tbh I have absolutely no idea how that dynamic IK thing worked. I think someone was explaining to it to me before, but from what I understand I don't think it can be replicated by the tools |
| 00:28.43 | Zolden | akright, ty |
| 00:30.31 | zlefin | i also wish they made better ai for sc2 :P blizz could make a great ai if they tried |
| 00:33.42 | Triceron | you mean beyond the computer sayng 'gg'? :P |
| 00:33.59 | zlefin | yeah |
| 00:34.06 | zlefin | they should make a good adaptive smart ai |
| 00:34.09 | Zolden | god, Triceron, your catapulta and ballista are jsut so perfect |
| 00:34.16 | Zolden | can't stop looking at them :)) |
| 00:37.44 | Triceron | haha thanks :D |
| 00:39.18 | Vailreth | hello mapsters i have a new chair |
| 00:39.28 | Triceron | is it comfy? |
| 00:39.42 | zlefin | i needa new chair, but i have trouble finding one that's just right |
| 00:39.42 | egod | nice |
| 00:39.45 | egod | what kind of chair |
| 01:09.26 | *** join/#sc2mapster Leruster (3e57dbba@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.87.219.186) |
| 01:11.47 | *** join/#sc2mapster Taintedwisp (4bb541ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.181.65.238) |
| 01:20.05 | Taintedwisp | Yo, Vailreth hows everything going? |
| 01:24.09 | Triceron | he got a new chair |
| 01:24.25 | Triceron | he's prolly too busy being comfortable to respond to you right now |
| 01:25.09 | Dogmai | oi you |
| 01:25.14 | Dogmai | you been a bad boy |
| 01:27.06 | Triceron | me? |
| 01:30.19 | Taintedwisp | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7004441220 REALLY |
| 01:30.21 | Taintedwisp | ... |
| 01:30.33 | Taintedwisp | I have typed 5 replys and changed right before posting.. |
| 01:30.41 | Taintedwisp | all 5 were insulting this complete retard |
| 01:31.03 | Taintedwisp | Jesus I would have hated to see what it would have been like for him back in the GOOD days of Brood War Community |
| 01:31.04 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 01:31.14 | Taintedwisp | I believe i was called NIgger just for signing in... that was just to start.. |
| 01:31.23 | Taintedwisp | They started strong and finished strong |
| 01:31.26 | Taintedwisp | Grade A trollin back then |
| 01:31.57 | Triceron | you're not black |
| 01:32.03 | Taintedwisp | lol so? |
| 01:32.16 | Taintedwisp | I have been called Cracker 100s of times... i just dont care, not cry about it |
| 01:32.41 | Triceron | but you're crying about being caled a nigger :P |
| 01:32.47 | Taintedwisp | I hate it when ANYONE brings up racism.. I'm always like REALLY |
| 01:32.57 | Triceron | true enough |
| 01:32.58 | Taintedwisp | no im not, Actually I thought it was funny back then and funny now |
| 01:33.35 | Taintedwisp | Like black people, YOU CALLED ME (Insert any word you thought was fine), Im always like, BITCH PLEASE!!!, you have never been no fucking slave, nor your daddy nor your grandaddy.... lol |
| 01:34.22 | Taintedwisp | I hate this stupid "Racism" Bull shit, Its only an issue because people get butthurt, if people would stop crying over it it would go away |
| 01:34.45 | Taintedwisp | Hey Dogmai, if I call you a dingo, are you going to go Cry on some forums? |
| 01:34.46 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 01:34.56 | Dogmai | No, I will just add you to the banlist in Tofu |
| 01:34.59 | Taintedwisp | you might talk some shit back, but that would be as far as it would go |
| 01:35.00 | Dogmai | Then lets see who will cry more |
| 01:35.01 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 01:35.03 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 01:35.28 | Taintedwisp | I just mean damn, These kind of post always irritate me lol |
| 01:35.37 | Dogmai | Offending people is never a problem, the people who get offended, they are the problem. |
| 01:35.50 | Dogmai | Do I care when an Abbo walks down the street and screams at me "white cunt" |
| 01:35.53 | Dogmai | I don't give a shit |
| 01:35.53 | Taintedwisp | thats the way I see it dogmai to be honest |
| 01:36.35 | Taintedwisp | I live in the south, so 90% of the whites call the blacks niggers, and 90% of the blacks call the whites Chalkies, or crackers, 5 minutes later, we all go to work and are friends... because around here poeple have quit giving a shit |
| 01:36.58 | Taintedwisp | Damn, It isnt racism if you dont actually hate the other person in the first place |
| 01:37.01 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 01:37.06 | Taintedwisp | hate the group anyways |
| 01:38.03 | Taintedwisp | There are a few groups that actually hate the race, those should go burn in hell as they usually incite violence... but people should quit crying over words |
| 01:38.31 | Dogmai | Look at the westboro baptish church |
| 01:38.34 | Dogmai | they hate everyone |
| 01:38.40 | Dogmai | and yet your government lets them exist? |
| 01:38.49 | Dogmai | they hate god |
| 01:38.55 | Dogmai | why hasnt god dished out punishment |
| 01:39.01 | Dogmai | u dont be hating on me |
| 01:39.03 | Taintedwisp | yeah I know, of course unless they are causing riots and hurting others, then it doesnt matter to me |
| 01:39.03 | Dogmai | zap |
| 01:39.04 | Dogmai | zap |
| 01:39.25 | Taintedwisp | The only problem is, that they teach their kids to hate these groups and then their kids do the violence |
| 01:40.35 | Dogmai | yep |
| 01:40.41 | Dogmai | its why i like the dixie chicks |
| 01:40.49 | Dogmai | how can a mother teach her own daughter to hate perfect stranger |
| 01:40.50 | zlefin | last i heard westboro is more of a scam than anything else |
| 01:40.59 | zlefin | a bunch of lawyers who try to goad people into attack them then they sue |
| 01:41.18 | Dogmai | land of the free eh |
| 01:41.26 | Dogmai | land of the free to be an asshole and get away with it |
| 01:41.37 | Dogmai | when people have total freedom they usually turn into dicks |
| 01:41.49 | Dogmai | no consequences for bad behaviour |
| 01:41.50 | Taintedwisp | LOL |
| 01:41.54 | Dogmai | australia on the other hand ... |
| 01:41.56 | Dogmai | nanny state |
| 01:41.59 | Dogmai | total opposite |
| 01:42.08 | Dogmai | i cant shit without my governments permission |
| 01:42.13 | Taintedwisp | Dogmai I cant believe in Austrailia anymore, they are taking down pages that hated on some woman.. lol |
| 01:42.14 | Dogmai | they can go get fucked, they are not my mother |
| 01:42.30 | Dogmai | its the eastern states |
| 01:42.32 | Taintedwisp | Hey you think this would get me a ban on the forums? This was as nice as I could put it |
| 01:42.32 | Dogmai | they are in pwoer |
| 01:42.33 | Taintedwisp | Racism? Whats it matter, OMG YOU WERE CALLED SOME WORDS!!!, grow up a little bit, They dont know you, they are not hurting you, you may hit block communication, and perhaps report them if you wish to cry more... |
| 01:42.38 | Dogmai | and they are pompus |
| 01:42.50 | Dogmai | they think they are high class americans |
| 01:42.56 | Dogmai | we think they're a bunch of twats |
| 01:43.01 | Dogmai | they think we are country folk |
| 01:43.03 | Taintedwisp | haha What? |
| 01:43.03 | Dogmai | fuck em |
| 01:43.22 | Dogmai | there is a big divide between the west coast and the east coast |
| 01:43.30 | Dogmai | the west coast (where I live) is down to earth and laid back |
| 01:43.40 | Taintedwisp | WAIT HEY no its those fucking Western states.. Acting like a bunch of liberal cunts, and those stupid ass Central states, and some southern states, that wanna act like a bunch of conserverative tards.. |
| 01:43.41 | Dogmai | we have 10% of the people but provide australia with 90% of its wealth |
| 01:43.46 | Taintedwisp | really its all the morons that lean to one side |
| 01:44.06 | Dogmai | i went over east and its a bloody police state |
| 01:44.09 | Taintedwisp | Ohh you ment in austraila |
| 01:44.14 | Dogmai | ive never seen so many cops pulling over people for whatever they can |
| 01:44.16 | Taintedwisp | I though you were talkin america |
| 01:44.18 | Dogmai | its because their governments are broke |
| 01:44.30 | Dogmai | so they have to "tax" people by fining them for shit |
| 01:44.43 | Dogmai | its very rare to get fined here unless your being a dick |
| 01:44.58 | Dogmai | i got caught doing 118 in a 110 zone |
| 01:45.03 | Dogmai | what speed were you doing |
| 01:45.04 | Taintedwisp | damn, here the Eastern states, are the more sensible, if you try to stay in the middle of the coastal states, NC-VA lol Only those 2 states, DC is a bunch of fucktards... |
| 01:45.05 | Dogmai | just under 120 |
| 01:45.07 | Dogmai | yea ... 118 |
| 01:45.10 | Dogmai | let me off |
| 01:45.12 | Dogmai | cause i wasnt being a dick |
| 01:45.19 | Dogmai | i was on a country road near no towns |
| 01:45.30 | Dogmai | it crept up on me (which is easy to do going down a hill etc) |
| 01:45.31 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 01:45.47 | Taintedwisp | The highest Speed limit in united states is 85 :P |
| 01:45.53 | Dogmai | its different to if I was doing 49 in a 40 school zone |
| 01:45.57 | Dogmai | double it |
| 01:46.02 | Dogmai | 50mph = 110km/h roughly |
| 01:46.03 | Taintedwisp | but we dont have that bigass desolate space, well cept the desert |
| 01:46.15 | Dogmai | and why do we have 110 speed limit? |
| 01:46.19 | Dogmai | this is fucken australia |
| 01:46.27 | Dogmai | it takes me 4 hours to drive from my mums house to my dads house |
| 01:46.33 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 01:46.35 | Dogmai | in the country it should be 180 |
| 01:46.42 | Dogmai | or whatever the safest speed is |
| 01:46.43 | zlefin | that's abd for the environment |
| 01:46.47 | Dogmai | most people will still be doing 120 |
| 01:46.49 | zlefin | *bad |
| 01:46.50 | Dogmai | because of fucken roos |
| 01:46.51 | Dogmai | and emus |
| 01:46.52 | Taintedwisp | Nah, Most cars cant handle those speeds could they? |
| 01:47.01 | Dogmai | cars arnt the problem |
| 01:47.04 | Dogmai | its the wildlife |
| 01:47.13 | Dogmai | i drove through a pack of emus last time i drove up here |
| 01:47.15 | Dogmai | 3 of em |
| 01:47.18 | Taintedwisp | GOT DAMN KANGAROOS!! MAKE ME SOME FUKN ROO STEAK!!! |
| 01:47.21 | Dogmai | i saw em, and I was like shit |
| 01:47.30 | Dogmai | if i slam on my breaks im gonna hit the last one |
| 01:47.32 | Taintedwisp | I'm an american, if it looks tasty its eaten.. |
| 01:47.37 | zlefin | that mph to kmh conversion above is inaccurate, 50mph != 110kmh |
| 01:47.38 | Dogmai | if i keep going im gonna hit the first one |
| 01:47.52 | Dogmai | i keep tapping the brakes then i floor it |
| 01:47.56 | Dogmai | go straight through the middle of em |
| 01:47.57 | Taintedwisp | Ease off the gas and hit the middle one lol |
| 01:48.12 | Dogmai | if you stuck out your hand either side of the car you would have hit the stupid birds |
| 01:48.25 | Taintedwisp | Can we get a thread deletion? This is complete ....... I mean come on, Is this kid trolling? Kid take it from a trolling king, you were being trolled, Welcome to the internet... Congratulations. Dont like it? get off the Internet. |
| 01:48.25 | Dogmai | i got a prius, i cant afford to hit a emu |
| 01:48.29 | Taintedwisp | There thats my response |
| 01:48.31 | Dogmai | they are gonna write off my transmission |
| 01:48.33 | Taintedwisp | HOpefully it wont get me banned |
| 01:48.54 | Dogmai | we should be eating more kangaroo |
| 01:48.57 | Dogmai | there are too many |
| 01:49.00 | Dogmai | and its a lean meat |
| 01:49.03 | Dogmai | but its tough |
| 01:49.07 | Taintedwisp | They sound tasty as hell not going to lie... |
| 01:49.15 | Dogmai | i had camel curry |
| 01:49.18 | Dogmai | that was nice as hell |
| 01:49.23 | Taintedwisp | Of course ill pretty much eat anything lool |
| 01:49.24 | Dogmai | we got too many camels too |
| 01:49.25 | zlefin | fuel efficiency goes down alot as you get past 60ish mph |
| 01:49.39 | Dogmai | im talking in kph |
| 01:49.43 | Taintedwisp | I had Lots of Sushi Today... lol, atleast 3 or 4 whole Rolls lol |
| 01:49.51 | zlefin | that's around 105 kph |
| 01:49.56 | Dogmai | i want sushu ... |
| 01:50.01 | Dogmai | its meant to be like 100*F today |
| 01:50.04 | Dogmai | its too fucken hot already |
| 01:50.08 | Dogmai | and its not even 10am |
| 01:50.20 | Taintedwisp | It was a buffet, if you put it in a peices amount it was around 40-60 peices of sushi ahah |
| 01:50.29 | Taintedwisp | i love some sushi though |
| 01:50.35 | Taintedwisp | Put some Wasabi on it... DAMN |
| 01:50.50 | Taintedwisp | wait 40-60? |
| 01:50.51 | Taintedwisp | wtf... lol |
| 01:50.53 | Dogmai | omg |
| 01:51.02 | Dogmai | i was in a sushi place in sydney |
| 01:51.04 | Dogmai | with my girl |
| 01:51.07 | Taintedwisp | 20-30 would be more accurate, I was thinking they were rolls of 10 peices |
| 01:51.09 | Dogmai | she knows i love wasabi |
| 01:51.16 | Dogmai | i told her to try some (a shitload) |
| 01:51.19 | Dogmai | then breath out from her nose |
| 01:51.24 | Dogmai | got her so bloody good |
| 01:51.26 | Dogmai | she was so mad |
| 01:51.27 | Triceron | ohhh man |
| 01:51.27 | Taintedwisp | haha troll |
| 01:51.30 | Triceron | that's like brain freeze |
| 01:51.32 | Dogmai | i cant believe she believed me |
| 01:51.56 | Taintedwisp | My little bro went to the bathroom and I shoved alot in his Sushi boat thing lol, He ate it all in one bite it was like a spoonful too lol |
| 01:52.04 | Taintedwisp | His nose started bleeding |
| 01:52.16 | Triceron | :S |
| 01:52.44 | Dogmai | well |
| 01:52.52 | Dogmai | i made bhut poppers |
| 01:53.03 | Dogmai | bhut jolokia was the hottest chilli in the world at the time |
| 01:53.11 | Dogmai | i cut em open, filled em with chedder and feta |
| 01:53.13 | Taintedwisp | God I love sushi though, And we got a place down the road about 15 minutes, thats 8$ for a buffet, its a habachi grill, damn good sushi too, and I have been to actual high quality sushi restraunts too |
| 01:53.16 | Dogmai | and baked em |
| 01:53.26 | Dogmai | my best mate took them off me and gave them out to everyone |
| 01:53.34 | Dogmai | nearly killed my little sisters boyfriend |
| 01:53.39 | Dogmai | he was like yea, this is good |
| 01:53.41 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 01:53.42 | Dogmai | trying to act like a man |
| 01:53.44 | Dogmai | 1 minute later |
| 01:53.48 | Dogmai | throwing up in the bathroom |
| 01:53.53 | Dogmai | in a cold sweat |
| 01:53.56 | Dogmai | couldnt stop shaking |
| 01:53.59 | Taintedwisp | Sounds like a good deed on your part dogmai haah |
| 01:53.59 | Dogmai | she was so pissed |
| 01:54.09 | Dogmai | he was like "man, ive had hot ... but never that hot before" |
| 01:54.13 | Dogmai | i thought it was funny as shit |
| 01:54.18 | Dogmai | i didnt give them out |
| 01:54.20 | Dogmai | not my fault |
| 01:54.26 | Dogmai | i ate one with a mate from malacca |
| 01:54.29 | Dogmai | we were fine |
| 01:54.30 | Vailreth | bah |
| 01:54.44 | Dogmai | my mum was chasing my best mate around the house |
| 01:54.47 | Dogmai | gonna kill him |
| 01:54.57 | Dogmai | i still think they have slept together |
| 01:54.58 | Dogmai | not sure |
| 01:55.01 | Dogmai | trying to figure it out |
| 01:55.08 | Taintedwisp | wow lol |
| 01:55.15 | Taintedwisp | Whats up Vailreth, hows your game going? |
| 01:55.21 | Dogmai | in fact, out of my 3 best mates |
| 01:55.27 | Dogmai | i think 2 are a bit too close to my mother |
| 01:55.27 | Vailreth | i just fixed my monitor |
| 01:55.46 | Dogmai | tainted, where is the logo :P tofu is finished |
| 01:55.49 | Dogmai | its leaving you behind |
| 01:55.54 | Vailreth | but atleast im playing BL2 again |
| 01:56.15 | Taintedwisp | Cool man, what was wrong with your monitor? |
| 01:56.28 | Taintedwisp | Logo? waht logo? |
| 01:56.38 | Vailreth | the picture was shifted left about two and a half inches |
| 01:57.20 | Vailreth | 'i also have a new chair woot |
| 01:57.46 | Taintedwisp | Ah cool, yeah vailreth, my old desktops monitor just had an auto adjust button I would press |
| 01:58.10 | DeadZergling | hot peppers are good for that sort of thing |
| 01:58.12 | Vailreth | i had to pull the vga cord out and reinsert it |
| 01:58.21 | DeadZergling | recall having a drop of some of that crazy hot sauce before |
| 01:58.33 | DeadZergling | had one very thorough colon cleansing right there |
| 01:58.46 | DeadZergling | ate 2 or 3 times more than everyone else later that night, I was that empty, lol |
| 01:58.54 | Vailreth | hah |
| 01:58.56 | Taintedwisp | So dogmai What logo? |
| 02:00.02 | Dogmai | wait shit |
| 02:00.04 | Dogmai | i wrong the wrong name |
| 02:00.06 | Dogmai | Triceron |
| 02:00.35 | Dogmai | i planted 150 plants |
| 02:00.38 | Triceron | ? |
| 02:00.42 | Dogmai | just had my first seedling come up yesterday |
| 02:00.47 | Triceron | oh nice |
| 02:00.47 | Dogmai | butch T scorpion :D |
| 02:00.51 | Dogmai | no, the logo |
| 02:00.54 | Dogmai | not the seeds |
| 02:01.23 | Triceron | yup I've got it |
| 02:01.35 | Triceron | gimme a sec and I'll send you |
| 02:01.41 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 02:01.51 | Taintedwisp | Trice you should make me a logo bwhahaah |
| 02:01.59 | Dogmai | btw, i was thinking |
| 02:02.03 | Dogmai | if you douchebags blow me |
| 02:02.09 | Dogmai | ill let u in on the closed beta today o_O |
| 02:02.18 | Dogmai | actually that was mean |
| 02:02.19 | Vailreth | hah |
| 02:02.20 | Dogmai | i take that back |
| 02:02.22 | Dogmai | even for me |
| 02:02.24 | Taintedwisp | So what I am hearing is if you let Dogmai blow you he will give you money |
| 02:02.31 | Vailreth | hah |
| 02:02.39 | Dogmai | im not a douche |
| 02:02.41 | Dogmai | im awesome |
| 02:02.43 | DeadZergling | closed beta, thought it was done? lol |
| 02:02.48 | Dogmai | i dont think anyone here is a douche ... |
| 02:02.50 | Dogmai | it is done |
| 02:02.52 | Dogmai | its the last closed beta |
| 02:03.03 | Dogmai | its finished, but we wanna see if there are any game breaking bugs |
| 02:03.04 | Taintedwisp | < what about him? |
| 02:03.07 | Dogmai | atm, we only know of 1 bug |
| 02:03.11 | Vailreth | i dont actually play user created content |
| 02:03.12 | Dogmai | you're not a douche |
| 02:03.14 | Dogmai | you're a dick |
| 02:03.16 | Dogmai | just like me |
| 02:03.28 | Taintedwisp | ahh kk |
| 02:03.37 | Dogmai | and the bug is related to the UI |
| 02:03.42 | Dogmai | and the code is "correct" |
| 02:03.46 | Dogmai | and i cant fix it |
| 02:03.48 | Dogmai | so who knows |
| 02:04.21 | Vailreth | sounds like one of those mysterious Bugs that happen because its Galaxy editor you know ... |
| 02:04.29 | Dogmai | yea |
| 02:04.30 | Taintedwisp | HAHAH I was worried that my computer wouldnt Run Left 4 Dead 2, so I tested it, and it was on mostly high settings, and then I exited and noticed my laggy ass editor was open lol |
| 02:04.35 | Dogmai | I will have to get some devs to look at it |
| 02:04.52 | Dogmai | its not an important issue though |
| 02:07.23 | Taintedwisp | So triceron what would it take for you to make me a logo? :P haha |
| 02:07.39 | Dogmai | to be awesome like me |
| 02:07.41 | Dogmai | that aint gonna happen |
| 02:07.43 | Dogmai | brb restart |
| 02:08.37 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 02:09.33 | Triceron | about 12 months |
| 02:09.38 | Triceron | give or take a year |
| 02:10.00 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 02:10.22 | Taintedwisp | nah but I do need to find someone who would be interested in making one though, and also a loading screen |
| 02:10.32 | Taintedwisp | I can use photoshop, but I suck at it haha |
| 02:10.43 | Taintedwisp | I still have a couple months atleast |
| 02:11.29 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dogmai (~Blizz-Dog@124-168-243-93.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 02:12.13 | DeadZergling | i'd be interested in helping dogmai, just can only play w/ 1 arm atm |
| 02:12.16 | Taintedwisp | So when you testing dogmai?:P |
| 02:12.25 | DeadZergling | baby stuff and such |
| 02:12.26 | Dogmai | not sure |
| 02:12.30 | Taintedwisp | Hes quirkin it to your image with the other |
| 02:12.42 | Dogmai | atm im making the info images |
| 02:12.44 | Dogmai | for the arcade |
| 02:12.53 | Dogmai | so when i finish the next one |
| 02:12.57 | Dogmai | or two |
| 02:13.05 | Dogmai | ill add em, sort out the mod files and reupload everything |
| 02:13.59 | Taintedwisp | Sounds Ze fun |
| 02:14.18 | DeadZergling | republishing, such a fun process |
| 02:14.46 | Dogmai | republishing 4 mod files |
| 02:14.51 | Dogmai | as well as the map |
| 02:14.55 | Dogmai | because you updated the bottom one |
| 02:14.57 | Dogmai | even better |
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| 02:15.13 | DeadZergling | quite a few |
| 02:15.32 | DeadZergling | sound/models? |
| 02:15.55 | Dogmai | 30ish mb of sounds |
| 02:15.57 | Dogmai | with no VO |
| 02:16.03 | Dogmai | cause we havnt done the VO yet |
| 02:16.11 | Dogmai | no custom mods |
| 02:16.13 | DeadZergling | VO? |
| 02:16.14 | Dogmai | models* |
| 02:16.17 | Dogmai | voice overs |
| 02:18.53 | Taintedwisp | Damn lol |
| 02:19.06 | *** join/#sc2mapster b2zeldafreak (~b2zeldafr@163.11.55.21) |
| 02:19.17 | b2zeldafreak | how can i add extra sounds to a unit in editor? |
| 02:19.22 | Taintedwisp | And here I thought my map was huge due to it being 48 MBs Uncompressed lol |
| 02:19.51 | Dogmai | well |
| 02:19.56 | Dogmai | tofu is at about 60mb |
| 02:19.59 | Dogmai | compressed |
| 02:20.21 | Taintedwisp | There are 2 ways B2Zelda, 1. you can apply a behavior to this unit that will change the sounds, Or 2 you can change them directly on the units actor |
| 02:20.28 | Taintedwisp | damn |
| 02:21.03 | b2zeldafreak | I think i want to change them on the unit's actor |
| 02:21.23 | Taintedwisp | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7004041191 < I still think it would Help build back up the community, and would give players something to stay for. and it would give some incentive for playing custom maps |
| 02:21.39 | Taintedwisp | Just go to the actor and go to the Sounds + Field |
| 02:21.59 | b2zeldafreak | righ |
| 02:22.20 | b2zeldafreak | right |
| 02:22.37 | b2zeldafreak | then just change what's there? |
| 02:24.26 | Taintedwisp | Whats the unit your altering? |
| 02:24.43 | b2zeldafreak | a custom unit based on civilian |
| 02:25.02 | Taintedwisp | Go to the data editor, then to the actors tab, then to (Name of Unit) then type Sounds in the Search bar to the right. |
| 02:25.15 | Taintedwisp | okay then go to your custom units actor and do it |
| 02:25.57 | b2zeldafreak | i think i got it, just need to figure out what the different sounds mean |
| 02:29.28 | b2zeldafreak | yeah it's good enough for now |
| 02:34.29 | b2zeldafreak | hmm i'm having trouble with unit veterancy |
| 02:43.22 | Taintedwisp | Dogmai You gunna test in the next 30 minutes? |
| 02:44.44 | DeadZergling | just had to ask my necro buddy for an opinion on spells |
| 02:44.50 | Dogmai | probably not |
| 02:44.53 | DeadZergling | now I gotta think up another necro spell to replace one, lol |
| 02:44.55 | Dogmai | still be looking at a few hours |
| 02:45.04 | Dogmai | i hate this moment |
| 02:45.07 | Dogmai | #firstworldproblems |
| 02:45.09 | Dogmai | aircon too cold |
| 02:45.12 | Dogmai | no aircon too hot |
| 02:45.43 | Taintedwisp | hah, well ill try to catch you testing it another day im bout to go to bed getting sleepy |
| 02:45.52 | Dogmai | alright np |
| 02:50.13 | DeadZergling | you might enjoy this dogmai, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qG99JqbYao . It champions female rights by showing a female version of a BW style infested terran (attacks by blowing themself up). Nothing revolutionary, but sure is fun to watch. |
| 02:51.56 | Dogmai | i cant say what i want to say |
| 02:55.00 | DeadZergling | simple ability to be sure, but love the flaming corpse that burns itself up after it, lol |
| 02:58.20 | b2zeldafreak | once i make a veterancy behavior, do i just add it to the behaviors field in the units tab? |
| 02:59.04 | DeadZergling | i'd refer to onetwo's complete hero tutorial for that one b2 |
| 02:59.38 | b2zeldafreak | the leveling and abilities video? |
| 02:59.53 | DeadZergling | yea, it refers to what you asking about specifically |
| 03:00.26 | b2zeldafreak | ok thanks. i guessed and it looks like it worked |
| 03:00.41 | DeadZergling | that works too, just recall seeing it there |
| 03:00.55 | DeadZergling | I opted to not use veterancy since I wanted players to be able to hide their level if they wanted |
| 03:01.22 | b2zeldafreak | yeah, i'm working off of alevice's tutorial on sc2c.org |
| 03:01.29 | b2zeldafreak | can i do levels without veterancy? |
| 03:01.37 | DeadZergling | in a way, yes |
| 03:01.55 | DeadZergling | just involves more triggers, behaviors and/or upgrades |
| 03:02.06 | DeadZergling | veterancy lets you do it all in data |
| 03:02.21 | DeadZergling | well at least basic leveling, still be goign to triggers when you want to bank |
| 03:02.34 | b2zeldafreak | I don't think I need to bank |
| 03:02.44 | b2zeldafreak | in this particular map if a hero dies the person loses |
| 03:02.54 | DeadZergling | i see |
| 03:03.10 | b2zeldafreak | or I should say there's no hero revival |
| 03:03.16 | DeadZergling | veterancy is fine if you want to preselect what stats each hero gets |
| 03:03.35 | DeadZergling | might need to involve some triggers if you want them to be able to choose their own stats |
| 03:03.45 | b2zeldafreak | you could see people's level in warcraft 3 couldn't you? |
| 03:03.55 | DeadZergling | think so |
| 03:04.01 | DeadZergling | i didn't play the game though |
| 03:04.04 | b2zeldafreak | ahh then that's fine |
| 03:04.31 | b2zeldafreak | stat bonuses are set in the behavior then? |
| 03:05.14 | DeadZergling | using one or several attribute type buffs |
| 03:06.04 | b2zeldafreak | ok so i guess i'll need one behavior set for each type of hero |
| 03:06.19 | DeadZergling | that is up to you of course |
| 03:06.27 | DeadZergling | like could instead make 4 different attributes |
| 03:06.34 | DeadZergling | say str, sta, dex, int |
| 03:06.40 | DeadZergling | your warr types could get more str and sta |
| 03:06.45 | b2zeldafreak | hmm |
| 03:06.46 | DeadZergling | archers str and dex |
| 03:06.53 | DeadZergling | casters maybe sta and int? |
| 03:06.57 | b2zeldafreak | maybe not, since all of the hero's were Str based in wc3 |
| 03:07.02 | DeadZergling | get what I'm saying? |
| 03:07.20 | Triceron | yes you could see people's levels in War3 |
| 03:07.27 | Triceron | you can't see their skills or stats I don't think |
| 03:07.30 | b2zeldafreak | yeah i do |
| 03:09.05 | DeadZergling | seems my daughter is back |
| 03:09.09 | b2zeldafreak | could i do the 4 different attributes from one behavior? |
| 03:09.12 | DeadZergling | time to enjoy more MLP it would seem |
| 03:09.33 | DeadZergling | no, would need 4 diff ones |
| 03:09.38 | b2zeldafreak | k |
| 03:09.42 | b2zeldafreak | thanks |
| 03:11.34 | DeadZergling | by the way, those 4 stats were just ones I picked at random |
| 03:11.40 | DeadZergling | make sure you use whatever you want, lol |
| 03:11.54 | b2zeldafreak | i'll probably go with the default Wc3 ones, Str, Int, Agi |
| 03:12.11 | DeadZergling | aye, I decided my life wasn't complicated enough |
| 03:12.18 | DeadZergling | went w/ str, sta, int, wis, dex, agi |
| 03:12.28 | b2zeldafreak | This map will have at most 3 hero types so I can just make one behavior for each since they'll each get different buffs per level |
| 03:12.43 | b2zeldafreak | which field changes the exp given on death? |
| 03:13.02 | b2zeldafreak | like to increase the exp for killing a zergling |
| 03:14.41 | DeadZergling | think it is stats score-kill |
| 03:15.05 | b2zeldafreak | didn't seem to work |
| 03:15.10 | b2zeldafreak | i might've done something wrong though |
| 03:16.42 | b2zeldafreak | hmm my hero's not getting any exp at all |
| 03:16.44 | DeadZergling | try combat: kill experience |
| 03:16.50 | DeadZergling | that sounds more like it |
| 03:17.39 | b2zeldafreak | found it in the XML |
| 03:24.37 | b2zeldafreak | hmm my hero's not getting xp |
| 03:24.53 | DeadZergling | added levels yet? |
| 03:25.27 | b2zeldafreak | yeah |
| 03:25.33 | b2zeldafreak | do i need to add each level as a behavior? |
| 03:25.54 | DeadZergling | no, should all be connected to that one veterancy you added |
| 03:26.00 | b2zeldafreak | hmm |
| 03:26.10 | b2zeldafreak | i added it to behaviors+ or whatever |
| 03:26.34 | b2zeldafreak | it wouldn't be effected by the fact that the game is over while i'm testing would it? |
| 03:28.43 | DeadZergling | shouldn't, if it isn't working I'd just make a carbon copy of onetwo's example |
| 03:28.48 | DeadZergling | then work from there |
| 03:28.57 | b2zeldafreak | hmm i might have too |
| 03:30.12 | DeadZergling | is a good strategy to take when doing something new |
| 03:30.20 | DeadZergling | make sure simple works, then get more complicated |
| 03:49.54 | b2zeldafreak | hmm i followed his tutorial, stil no luck |
| 03:59.58 | RiFT | "Error! Dependencies could not be validated." |
| 04:00.16 | RiFT | why would other people get this but the map works fine for me? |
| 04:00.36 | DeadZergling | does the map use a custom mod? |
| 04:01.00 | RiFT | like i can play the map from the battle.net menus vs ai but they get that when i invite them |
| 04:01.22 | DeadZergling | right, answer the question though, does the map use a custom mod file? |
| 04:01.31 | RiFT | custom mod file? such as? |
| 04:01.39 | DeadZergling | a mod file you created |
| 04:01.49 | DeadZergling | besides the standard dependencies |
| 04:02.20 | RiFT | the only thing it could possibly be is that they wanted to use a custom sentry portrait and that wasn't loading when i was running it in test document |
| 04:02.38 | RiFT | if that is the issues, how would one resolve it? |
| 04:02.46 | DeadZergling | odd it is doing that if it is just a single map file |
| 04:03.08 | egod | http://fr-ca.twitch.tv/enexy |
| 04:03.15 | egod | check this tream, a very RPG working on |
| 04:03.17 | egod | stream |
| 04:03.28 | egod | all custom made |
| 04:05.23 | DeadZergling | a stream so can watch enexy dink around on the editor? what's that about? |
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| 04:22.09 | Dryeyece | whats up 8) |
| 04:33.28 | b2zeldafreak | still can't get exp to work |
| 04:33.36 | b2zeldafreak | i've followed the tutorials precisely |
| 04:34.24 | DeadZergling | not sure what to tell you b2, start w/ a blank map, try again? |
| 04:34.36 | DeadZergling | it is usually something very minor |
| 04:36.58 | DeadZergling | I know when I first started out following tutorials, it'd take me a few tries |
| 04:37.04 | DeadZergling | to know what the hell was going on at all, lol |
| 04:39.21 | b2zeldafreak | already started with a blank map to test it :p still no luck |
| 04:43.48 | b2zeldafreak | both tutorials i was looking at are old though |
| 04:55.27 | Dogmai | deadzergling |
| 04:55.33 | Dogmai | what is your bnet id # |
| 04:55.55 | Dogmai | the unique identifier like 1234567 |
| 04:59.51 | Dogmai | why is dry in the chat room |
| 04:59.58 | Dogmai | back to the dungeon |
| 05:00.02 | Dogmai | i didnt say you were allowed out |
| 05:00.03 | Dogmai | go shoo |
| 05:00.05 | Dogmai | ~kick dryeyece |
| 05:00.06 | purl | ACTION kicks dryeyece |
| 05:00.10 | Dogmai | o_O |
| 05:00.29 | Dogmai | lol |
| 05:00.31 | Dogmai | i just noticed |
| 05:00.39 | Dogmai | in alphabetical order, you will always be just below me |
| 05:00.50 | Dogmai | told you, you were my bitch |
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| 05:01.23 | b2zeldafreak | hey got experience working, thanks deadzergling |
| 05:01.32 | Dryeyece | so |
| 05:10.12 | DeadZergling | hrrrmm, you still there dogmai? |
| 05:10.17 | Dogmai | yea |
| 05:10.40 | DeadZergling | is #596 anyways |
| 05:10.52 | Dogmai | not hat one |
| 05:10.54 | Dogmai | the unique id |
| 05:11.06 | Dogmai | do you have a post on bnet forums? |
| 05:11.29 | DeadZergling | that one, forget really, I probably do |
| 05:14.18 | DeadZergling | seems that one is Deadzergling#1102 |
| 05:16.47 | Dogmai | no |
| 05:16.49 | Dogmai | not that one |
| 05:16.52 | Dogmai | the player handle o_O |
| 05:17.44 | DeadZergling | never knew that one |
| 05:18.06 | Dogmai | Got you |
| 05:18.07 | Dogmai | 3145934 |
| 05:18.24 | DeadZergling | lol sorry, I'm almost never on bnet |
| 05:18.30 | Dogmai | Nah thats fine |
| 05:18.59 | Dogmai | oh |
| 05:19.01 | Dogmai | thats not good |
| 05:19.05 | Dogmai | good thing I checked |
| 05:19.18 | Dogmai | you were on the tofu banlist, congrats on making it before release |
| 05:19.31 | Dogmai | removed now |
| 05:19.33 | Dogmai | o_O |
| 05:20.10 | DeadZergling | lol, giving you a chance to test your banlist out |
| 05:21.08 | Dogmai | no ... i removed you from it |
| 05:21.17 | Dogmai | see, I am being nice |
| 05:22.04 | DeadZergling | anywho, take it you are close to wanting to test |
| 05:22.47 | DeadZergling | lol, pobes vs zeelot and marine special forces at front of arcade |
| 05:23.41 | Dogmai | well yea |
| 05:23.45 | Dogmai | we are debating the arcade screen now |
| 05:23.57 | Dogmai | dry doesn't want me to have fun |
| 05:24.01 | Dogmai | i had the best map intro page ever |
| 05:30.14 | DeadZergling | man, no mercy on ling ling rocket reviews, lol |
| 05:36.13 | DeadZergling | take it dryeyece didn't approve? |
| 05:38.39 | RiFT | why would anyone upvote a game named "pobes vs zeelot"? is it so dumb that its memorable? |
| 05:39.18 | DeadZergling | it happens, people can tend to play the same maps over and over and over |
| 05:40.09 | RiFT | but is it intentionally misspelled or ...? |
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| 05:40.31 | DeadZergling | Probably |
| 05:41.19 | DeadZergling | can't imagine why anyone would want a name that bad |
| 05:42.39 | DeadZergling | is like naming an RPG Kill the zergs RPG, lol |
| 05:42.47 | DeadZergling | oh wait, someone did that.... Zerg Hunter |
| 05:43.15 | DeadZergling | lot of cool stuff, but man did the name leave a lot to be desired, lol |
| 05:45.59 | RiFT | so many custom maps just eat up an hour waiting for action |
| 05:46.31 | RiFT | like tower defense or any sort of survival |
| 05:52.30 | DeadZergling | is there a difference between the 2? |
| 05:55.18 | DeadZergling | since defense is typically just, don't let the units get to a spot, or death |
| 05:55.26 | DeadZergling | survival is just don't literally die |
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| 06:10.13 | Yaks | Hey there. |
| 06:10.17 | hobbidude | hey |
| 06:10.25 | Yaks | Ah, there you are. |
| 06:10.29 | hobbidude | lol |
| 06:10.54 | Yaks | So anyway as I was saying if you'd like to give me some feedback on an old system of mine, I'd love to recieve it. |
| 06:11.22 | hobbidude | unfortunately i don't have access to the editor atm |
| 06:11.30 | hobbidude | but for things like what soul wanted |
| 06:11.31 | Yaks | Ah. |
| 06:11.32 | Yaks | Another time then. |
| 06:11.48 | hobbidude | its sounds like he basically wanted the blizzard systam protrait system |
| 06:12.08 | hobbidude | i still know enough of the editor to understand whats going on without it |
| 06:12.15 | Yaks | I actually haven't been online in a while and don't even know what that is to be quite honest. |
| 06:13.01 | Yaks | Could you explain it? A generalization would be good. :? |
| 06:13.34 | hobbidude | with each facial pic of the units (up to 20o) on a single page... |
| 06:13.41 | hobbidude | they are highled when achievement |
| 06:13.49 | Yaks | Ohhh. |
| 06:13.53 | hobbidude | and then selectable to change your current single pic |
| 06:14.00 | hobbidude | its basically a single page..... |
| 06:14.00 | Yaks | Yeah, yeah. I got ya now. |
| 06:14.19 | Yaks | Well I figured. |
| 06:15.04 | Yaks | I think I actually created something like that. |
| 06:15.45 | Yaks | Where it would loop forever given how many icons, and then would wrap around and all that jazz. |
| 06:15.47 | Yaks | It would just take me a couple days is all.... |
| 06:16.13 | hobbidude | i recently redid tainted map which was horrible |
| 06:16.13 | hobbidude | i will definetly have a look at some of your maps when i get home and see how effecient they are |
| 06:16.47 | Yaks | I actually never released the one in question, if you'd like me to attach it to the PM message. |
| 06:17.00 | hobbidude | a basical grid of just 200 buts should litterly take 5 mins |
| 06:17.01 | Yaks | Err PM I suppose. PM message is kind of redundant. |
| 06:17.17 | DeadZergling | you talking about the icon thing soulcarverr was wanting yaks? |
| 06:17.19 | hobbidude | buttons lol |
| 06:17.22 | hobbidude | yes |
| 06:17.24 | Yaks | Yes. |
| 06:17.39 | DeadZergling | guy really knows how to shoot a gift horse in the mouth don't he, lol |
| 06:17.45 | Yaks | lol |
| 06:17.47 | Yaks | I don't mind. |
| 06:17.59 | hobbidude | and i don't mind teaching |
| 06:18.17 | Yaks | I knew it was rather different then he wanted, so I figured he or others might get on my case. :P But it's not like I offered or anything. |
| 06:18.49 | Yaks | And I appreciate that hobbit. :) |
| 06:18.49 | Yaks | err hobbidude |
| 06:18.51 | Yaks | no "T" |
| 06:19.00 | hobbidude | srry but i was a little upset from the post that we where open to money jobs but don't get the basics done |
| 06:19.04 | hobbidude | np |
| 06:19.18 | Yaks | Well, you see I did get the "basics" done. |
| 06:19.32 | Yaks | I just didn't get all sweaty over some complex system. |
| 06:19.50 | hobbidude | thats the things tho its not complex at all |
| 06:19.53 | hobbidude | probably easier |
| 06:20.05 | Yaks | Here is a little snippet of code just to let you know my current knowledge on the subject: |
| 06:20.14 | hobbidude | as i said the more complex a system is the simplar you'll want to make it |
| 06:20.32 | Yaks | actually let me attach it to the pm |
| 06:20.37 | Yaks | no need to flood you lovely peole |
| 06:20.38 | hobbidude | sure |
| 06:22.01 | hobbidude | they're all asleep anyways |
| 06:22.06 | hobbidude | lol |
| 06:22.39 | Yaks | alright |
| 06:22.43 | Yaks | check it and get back to me |
| 06:22.54 | Yaks | In the meantime perhaps you can understand why I didnt. |
| 06:23.22 | Yaks | He asked for a free thing. I created a free thing. The thing he wanted would have considerably taken me, personally, longer. |
| 06:23.32 | Yaks | I opted for the easy way. Free is free. |
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| 06:24.39 | Yaks | oh whoops |
| 06:24.44 | Yaks | seems my code broke down in the pm |
| 06:24.50 | Yaks | hang on |
| 06:25.02 | hobbidude | ya its a bit hard to read but its not of course what it should be |
| 06:25.40 | hobbidude | even the button system should be loops |
| 06:25.44 | Yaks | Alright. Please inform me of the correct way. |
| 06:25.46 | Yaks | It's fixed BTW |
| 06:25.49 | hobbidude | even in its current setup |
| 06:26.15 | Yaks | Well see now how do you do that? |
| 06:26.18 | hobbidude | well ever time a button is create its needs to be save to a global variable |
| 06:26.27 | hobbidude | when a button is clicked |
| 06:26.30 | hobbidude | run a loop |
| 06:26.31 | Yaks | Which I did. |
| 06:26.41 | hobbidude | that runs through the array |
| 06:26.43 | Yaks | okay |
| 06:26.44 | Yaks | hold on |
| 06:26.51 | Yaks | loop it when clicked? |
| 06:26.51 | Dogmai | its good i am in a conference call atm with translators and dry and tri |
| 06:26.52 | Yaks | Why? |
| 06:27.09 | Dogmai | so really busy, the beta probably wont be uploaded till tomo at this rate |
| 06:27.17 | Dogmai | because we are having a huge design meeting |
| 06:27.32 | hobbidude | because is bad to have switch for every button |
| 06:27.34 | Dogmai | @ DeadZergling |
| 06:27.43 | DeadZergling | no prob, was just wondering what was up |
| 06:27.54 | hobbidude | if you use a switch and you have 200 buttons you need 200 switchs |
| 06:27.57 | DeadZergling | hope the meeting is productive |
| 06:28.06 | Yaks | oh wait |
| 06:28.12 | Yaks | no i see what you mean |
| 06:28.17 | Yaks | Pick each integer loop |
| 06:28.20 | hobbidude | yes |
| 06:28.24 | Yaks | I did that; continue. |
| 06:28.52 | hobbidude | the loops checks if the dialog at i is equal to the used dialog |
| 06:28.59 | Yaks | Right. |
| 06:28.59 | hobbidude | if then do action |
| 06:29.23 | hobbidude | if you have different "types" of buttons then you can run mutliple loops |
| 06:29.24 | Yaks | Okay. But in the code I added to the PM you'll see I did that. |
| 06:30.17 | Yaks | Or am I wrong? |
| 06:30.22 | Yaks | Correct me if I am, please. |
| 06:30.24 | hobbidude | srry bit hard to read but if im nto mistake in the button clicked trigger |
| 06:30.33 | hobbidude | you start with a switch not a loop |
| 06:30.37 | Yaks | Right I understand. |
| 06:30.41 | Yaks | Oh... |
| 06:30.48 | Yaks | Well how does that work then? |
| 06:30.57 | hobbidude | which? |
| 06:31.08 | Yaks | The switch instead of pick each integer loop |
| 06:31.17 | hobbidude | you don't want the switch |
| 06:31.21 | hobbidude | you want the loop |
| 06:31.27 | Yaks | okay. |
| 06:31.37 | hobbidude | for example |
| 06:31.42 | Yaks | Right because I was thinking that it would be hard to call an array for 100 with a switch. :P |
| 06:31.51 | hobbidude | exactly |
| 06:31.58 | hobbidude | a loop will do that in a single line |
| 06:32.04 | hobbidude | not 200 lines of a swtich |
| 06:32.09 | Yaks | Right. |
| 06:32.39 | Yaks | So basically what I did was create the buttons depending on how many fit on the line at one time. The line in the dialog the current row was on. |
| 06:32.51 | Yaks | Then added each new button to a generalized array |
| 06:33.01 | Yaks | Which I called more or less with a pick each integer |
| 06:33.13 | Yaks | which would quit when it reached the correct button. |
| 06:33.23 | Yaks | Is there anything to increase effeicency wise there? |
| 06:33.31 | Yaks | sorry for terribad spelling btw |
| 06:33.42 | Yaks | one of the reasons I dislike ims and IRCs |
| 06:33.45 | hobbidude | let me make sure we'll looking at the same thing |
| 06:33.46 | hobbidude | im looking at this |
| 06:33.52 | Yaks | okay |
| 06:35.09 | hobbidude | is that the one? |
| 06:35.20 | Yaks | Which one? You said you were going to look at something. |
| 06:35.32 | Yaks | If you're talking about the code in the PM, yes. |
| 06:35.42 | Yaks | That's what I'm talking about, anyway. |
| 06:36.41 | DeadZergling | i'm out for the night anyways, later |
| 06:37.15 | Yaks | Okay so while you're doing whatever it is you're going, I am just wondering how to make a button array-like library that's LESS complex than the system I provided to you. |
| 06:37.15 | Yaks | And goodnight |
| 06:37.17 | Yaks | aww |
| 06:37.26 | Yaks | darn it now he'll think I'm a jerk |
| 06:37.26 | Yaks | lol |
| 06:38.31 | Yaks | Because the one in the PM is pretty cody. And it would take ME a much longer time to complete as compared to my other system which took me a meer few hours. |
| 06:40.39 | Yaks | anyone else here willing to give me some triggering advice while he is timing out and such? |
| 06:42.23 | Yaks | Guess not. |
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| 06:58.39 | Yaks | my bad. |
| 06:58.45 | hobbidude | oh yup |
| 06:59.11 | Yaks | So what does that conditon check, exactly? |
| 06:59.19 | Yaks | oh |
| 06:59.24 | Yaks | just saw the pm |
| 06:59.25 | Yaks | :P |
| 06:59.33 | hobbidude | change to private pm |
| 06:59.35 | hobbidude | at top |
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| 09:15.24 | cuiu | anybody here? |
| 09:15.55 | duckies | nope |
| 09:16.24 | cuiu | nice |
| 09:16.41 | cuiu | can you maybe help me out with the editor? |
| 09:17.02 | duckies | ask away |
| 09:17.35 | cuiu | you know that map that blizz put out antiga balance 2.0 or something |
| 09:17.41 | cuiu | im trying to do the same |
| 09:17.46 | cuiu | but i suck |
| 09:17.48 | cuiu | so |
| 09:17.49 | cuiu | yeah |
| 09:18.11 | cuiu | im in the hots editor |
| 09:18.17 | cuiu | trying to change a unit |
| 09:18.30 | cuiu | but im fucking confused |
| 09:18.50 | duckies | yeah, that happens alot when you start working with data editor :3 |
| 09:19.01 | duckies | what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 09:19.14 | cuiu | because it doesn't show up in the structure that is supposed to build it |
| 09:19.38 | cuiu | i don't want to change values or anything |
| 09:20.01 | cuiu | i i got that stuff mastered xD |
| 09:20.22 | duckies | so what you want to change? |
| 09:20.29 | cuiu | i want to change the widow mine |
| 09:20.38 | cuiu | but have it a map |
| 09:20.45 | cuiu | that i don't have to build |
| 09:20.55 | cuiu | in |
| 09:23.02 | duckies | so.. you want to change a widow mine but you can't find it in editor? |
| 09:23.34 | cuiu | why are there 2 factories? |
| 09:24.02 | cuiu | and none of them shows the widow under the command card |
| 09:25.04 | duckies | can you find any other hots units? |
| 09:25.10 | duckies | because I think hots beta editor doesn't have hots dependencly |
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| 09:29.25 | duckiesReal | I wonder if it's my connection or freenode is awfully slow today :/ |
| 09:29.48 | duckiesReal | anyway cuiu I was about to type "meaning you'll need to create your own mod by extracting assets from mpqs, at least thats how it was when hots beta just launched" |
| 09:30.02 | duckiesReal | before I got dropped at 11.25 |
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| 09:33.42 | Cuiu | test test# |
| 09:33.56 | Cuiu | yeah |
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| 10:11.23 | Cuiu | nooo where is the duck guy |
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| 12:02.10 | Cuiu | help help help |
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| 12:11.14 | Zolden | yes? |
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| 12:29.22 | Cuiu | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/map-development/44542-unit-creation/#p1 |
| 12:29.23 | Cuiu | here |
| 12:29.29 | Cuiu | thats what i wanna do |
| 12:29.42 | Cuiu | the answer might be logical |
| 12:29.48 | Cuiu | but i don't get it :D |
| 12:30.39 | Cuiu | so im in the behavior tab i made a new buff |
| 12:30.43 | Cuiu | but where is that Unit Order Queue |
| 12:31.30 | Cuiu | it seems so complicated, just for some stupid stuff |
| 12:32.11 | Zolden | check validators tab |
| 12:32.24 | Cuiu | which one |
| 12:33.00 | Cuiu | -.- |
| 12:33.20 | Zolden | sec, i'll check myself |
| 12:34.19 | Cuiu | stupid unit i wish i never had the idea to start this xD |
| 12:35.52 | Zolden | your idea is simple |
| 12:36.01 | Zolden | u'll create it easily |
| 12:36.34 | Cuiu | you say it so easy |
| 12:37.01 | Zolden | have you checked your buff works? Does it give a unit negative energy regeneration? |
| 12:37.09 | Zolden | i mean, without validator |
| 12:38.55 | Cuiu | i thought it has to be in order. wait i see if i get the second part |
| 12:40.18 | Zolden | first you need to have a working behavior on unit which simply adds a negative energy regen, it has nothing to do with orders |
| 12:40.41 | Zolden | you're a noob, and you need to make a simple steps and understand what you do |
| 12:41.10 | Zolden | so, you create this behavior under behaviors tab and put it into unit's behaviors |
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| 12:41.46 | Zolden | after you made sure it works, you jsut add a validator to this behavior which will turn it on if only a unit moves |
| 12:41.48 | Cuiu | right right |
| 12:42.14 | Zolden | right now i'm trying to realize which validator is the one you was told about |
| 12:43.00 | Cuiu | but i can't do shit under behavior flags or behavior modifacation |
| 12:44.36 | Zolden | under modification |
| 12:44.38 | Zolden | let's see |
| 12:44.47 | Zolden | you need a negative energy regeneration |
| 12:45.05 | Cuiu | does it work when i put -1 energy on the cost tab |
| 12:46.40 | Zolden | I think it's modification->unit tab->regeneration bonus |
| 12:47.46 | Zolden | there you need to set -1 for energy |
| 12:48.10 | Cuiu | is this a bug i needed to restart the editor to be have acces to that tab |
| 12:48.34 | Cuiu | yeah yeah i have it |
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| 12:48.49 | Zolden | dunno, maybe you faced a bug, but i never had it |
| 12:49.05 | Cuiu | maybe its just the hots editor |
| 12:49.14 | Zolden | so, if you have it, add the behavior to your unit |
| 12:49.54 | Zolden | and run it to see it works |
| 12:50.07 | Cuiu | by going to a unit right clicking the bahavior tab |
| 12:50.15 | Cuiu | because that doesn't work |
| 12:51.33 | Zolden | unit tab -> select a unit -> doubleclick "behaviors" field |
| 12:51.42 | Cuiu | yeah same bug -.- |
| 12:51.44 | Zolden | then add a behavior |
| 12:52.03 | Zolden | well, if hots editor's bugged, use the WoL one |
| 12:52.35 | Cuiu | yeah it works |
| 12:52.39 | Cuiu | nice |
| 12:52.41 | Cuiu | wohoo xD |
| 12:52.53 | Zolden | so, the unit has negative regen? |
| 12:53.09 | Cuiu | yeah it loses energy |
| 12:53.16 | Cuiu | by just chillin |
| 12:53.38 | Zolden | ok, now you need to put a validator to the behavior's 'validators (disable)' field |
| 12:54.03 | Zolden | it will only turn the behavior on when the validator = true |
| 12:54.44 | Cuiu | Behavior validators disable |
| 12:54.54 | Zolden | so, u create a validator of CValidatorUnitOredrQueue Type |
| 12:54.57 | Cuiu | but there is no move |
| 12:55.03 | Cuiu | whaaat++ |
| 12:55.13 | Zolden | go under validators tab |
| 12:55.19 | Cuiu | yeah yeah |
| 12:55.22 | Zolden | there create a new validator |
| 12:55.33 | Zolden | pick that type |
| 12:55.52 | Cuiu | but there is only unit order count |
| 12:56.11 | Zolden | cmon, check again |
| 12:56.45 | Zolden | CValidatorUnitOrderQueue |
| 12:56.59 | Zolden | they are in an alphabetical order |
| 12:57.09 | Zolden | under that drop list |
| 12:57.13 | Zolden | easy to find |
| 12:58.43 | Zolden | oh, wait, I've been using the Ctrl+D mode, you must have it as a simple Unit Order Queue |
| 12:58.46 | Cuiu | not when you add one i see it in the foulders |
| 12:59.25 | Zolden | so, did you find the one we need? |
| 12:59.27 | Cuiu | caan't i just duplicate it |
| 12:59.49 | Zolden | and its type is unit order queue? |
| 13:00.25 | Cuiu | its in the folder unit order queue |
| 13:00.40 | Cuiu | CvalidatorUnitOrderQueue |
| 13:00.43 | Zolden | didn't know hots editor has folders |
| 13:00.46 | Zolden | OK |
| 13:01.04 | Zolden | now you need to configure it, so it would be TRUE when unit's moving |
| 13:01.16 | Zolden | set ability to Move |
| 13:01.35 | Zolden | Unit is caster |
| 13:01.55 | Zolden | ability command is 0 |
| 13:02.26 | Cuiu | yeah |
| 13:02.31 | Zolden | and Queued is true |
| 13:02.54 | Cuiu | thats it` |
| 13:02.56 | Zolden | i'm lazy to test it myself, but I believe it's what you need |
| 13:03.04 | Cuiu | ke |
| 13:03.17 | Zolden | now just put this validator into your behavior's field of validators disable |
| 13:03.34 | Zolden | and run to test |
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| 13:10.12 | Cuiu | nah |
| 13:16.21 | Zolden | ok, lemme check |
| 13:19.04 | Zolden | ok, got it |
| 13:19.16 | Cuiu | tell me tell me |
| 13:19.17 | Zolden | set Queued back to false |
| 13:19.22 | Zolden | it will work |
| 13:19.59 | Cuiu | niiiice |
| 13:20.05 | Cuiu | man im a pro |
| 13:20.06 | Cuiu | xD |
| 13:20.09 | Zolden | :)) |
| 13:20.59 | Zolden | now u need that second buff to disable movement if energy is zero |
| 13:21.11 | Cuiu | whaaat |
| 13:21.16 | Cuiu | i thought im done |
| 13:21.19 | Cuiu | -.- |
| 13:21.38 | Zolden | you only made unit lose energy on move |
| 13:22.06 | Cuiu | yeah it would make sense if it doesn't have any it sopts moving |
| 13:22.09 | Cuiu | like fuel |
| 13:22.11 | Cuiu | you know |
| 13:22.12 | Cuiu | :d |
| 13:24.23 | Cuiu | i guess unit is caster vital is energy |
| 13:25.24 | Zolden | yes |
| 13:26.08 | Cuiu | thats it? |
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| 13:26.45 | Cuiu | failure result not enogh energy |
| 13:27.18 | Zolden | what you did? |
| 13:27.37 | Zolden | oh, btw, validator's compare = greater |
| 13:27.42 | Zolden | value = 0 |
| 13:27.52 | Zolden | so it's true when unit has energy |
| 13:28.02 | Cuiu | Validator: failure result: not enough energy |
| 13:28.48 | Zolden | checking |
| 13:29.23 | Cuiu | so now i need onother buff or do i apply it to the one that i had |
| 13:29.34 | Cuiu | with the negative energy |
| 13:29.59 | Zolden | you need another buff |
| 13:30.22 | Zolden | it's modification has Suppress Movement flag on under unit tab |
| 13:31.17 | Zolden | oh, not under unit tab |
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| 13:31.41 | Zolden | modification -> behavior tab -> flags -> suppress movement |
| 13:31.49 | Zolden | that one |
| 13:31.56 | Cuiu | i made a new buff and im under behavior mod. unit |
| 13:32.41 | Cuiu | k checked |
| 13:32.50 | Zolden | give this behavior to the unit |
| 13:32.58 | Zolden | to check if it suppresses movement |
| 13:33.39 | Cuiu | doesn't let me again fuuuuuck |
| 13:33.56 | Zolden | ;/ |
| 13:34.46 | Cuiu | yeah doesn't move no i give the buff the validator |
| 13:34.53 | Cuiu | under diable |
| 13:35.51 | Zolden | validator must turn the behavior on no energy |
| 13:36.37 | Cuiu | ohm |
| 13:36.58 | Zolden | so probably i was wong about "greater" |
| 13:37.09 | Zolden | u need to have Equals |
| 13:37.25 | Zolden | in validator's compare field |
| 13:37.31 | Zolden | and 0 as a value |
| 13:37.41 | Cuiu | yeah |
| 13:38.02 | Cuiu | so where do i put it in now |
| 13:38.12 | Zolden | same field |
| 13:38.18 | Zolden | validators disable |
| 13:38.54 | Zolden | works for me now |
| 13:39.15 | Cuiu | yeah its gonna take a while it has 50 energy xD |
| 13:39.43 | Zolden | you can edit units regen speed |
| 13:39.58 | Cuiu | i know but i diddn't |
| 13:39.59 | Cuiu | so |
| 13:40.01 | Zolden | or set something more then -1 for negative regen |
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| 13:41.02 | Cuiu | yeah |
| 13:41.06 | Cuiu | awesome |
| 13:41.14 | Cuiu | <3 |
| 13:41.47 | Zolden | cool |
| 13:41.55 | Cuiu | does this stuff that i create behavior validators stay in |
| 13:42.04 | Cuiu | after i leave the editor |
| 13:42.15 | Cuiu | or do i have to save the map or something |
| 13:42.21 | Zolden | yeah, save the map, it will stay like you left it |
| 13:42.45 | Cuiu | hmm |
| 13:42.59 | Zolden | i mean, u'll need to load the map then |
| 13:43.43 | Cuiu | so now Ability - Info - Effect let me look |
| 13:44.35 | Zolden | i have things to do, so try to do it without my assistance |
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| 13:44.46 | Cuiu | man imm gonna be so lost |
| 13:44.50 | Cuiu | thx a lot |
| 13:44.51 | Leruster | hello |
| 13:44.51 | Zolden | lol |
| 13:44.56 | Zolden | hi Leruster |
| 13:45.17 | Zolden | Cuiu, someone else will help, i realy need to go |
| 13:45.24 | Leruster | hey Zolden, did you check the bone IK flag? |
| 13:45.25 | Cuiu | yeah yeah |
| 13:45.26 | Leruster | oh ;) |
| 13:45.27 | Cuiu | np |
| 13:45.45 | Zolden | Leruster: not yet, will start experimenting tomorrow |
| 13:45.52 | Leruster | cool :) |
| 13:46.04 | Zolden | btw |
| 13:46.13 | Zolden | I used to bake the animations |
| 13:46.24 | Zolden | IK's never worked |
| 13:46.35 | Zolden | so, now I'll jhave to keep them? |
| 13:46.42 | Leruster | well I think yes |
| 13:46.46 | Zolden | ok, I'll try |
| 13:46.54 | Leruster | I know I've added the IK flag but didn't really try to use it :P |
| 13:47.17 | Zolden | But how the models know wabout it's mesh colliding with the surface? |
| 13:47.43 | Zolden | if IK tells to move down, and the leg touches the surface, what will stop it? |
| 13:47.45 | Leruster | ha! that's a good question |
| 13:47.58 | Leruster | maybe it needs some physics |
| 13:47.59 | Zolden | ok, i'll test anyway |
| 13:48.22 | ckSynergy | morning |
| 13:48.30 | Cuiu | hey |
| 13:48.31 | Leruster | morning commisioner |
| 13:48.38 | ckSynergy | Just wanted to share a bit of knowledge this morning before I jet |
| 13:48.49 | Leruster | *commissioner ;) |
| 13:48.51 | ckSynergy | Heal abilities that scale with level/spell damage |
| 13:48.58 | ckSynergy | easily |
| 13:48.58 | Leruster | wowa wiwa |
| 13:49.30 | ckSynergy | So, one would normally think you directly apply a modify unit or create healer effect for heal abilities that scale. this would be wrong. |
| 13:50.26 | ckSynergy | Set your ability, and link it to a persistent. The persistent would periodically apply a set effect with 2 effects |
| 13:50.32 | ckSynergy | the first effect, is an apply behavior |
| 13:50.37 | ckSynergy | the second, is a damage effect |
| 13:50.52 | ckSynergy | In the damage effect, set the value to 1 and the type to spell |
| 13:51.14 | ckSynergy | Add a new behavior and link it to the apply behavior effect |
| 13:51.26 | ckSynergy | In the behavior, setup the combat damage response fields |
| 13:51.47 | ckSynergy | chance: 1, Fatal: enabled, Required Effect: (Your damage effect) |
| 13:51.59 | ckSynergy | add a new effect, type modify unit |
| 13:52.16 | ckSynergy | set the vital restore rate to 1 |
| 13:52.52 | ckSynergy | go back to the behavior, and set the "combat handled" field to the modify unit effect |
| 13:52.58 | ckSynergy | you're done. |
| 13:53.12 | Leruster | great! |
| 13:53.43 | Leruster | maybe you should post that to mapster? |
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| 14:50.08 | G0A | ehh EU bnet is down for me |
| 14:50.15 | TheSkunk__ | :O |
| 14:52.02 | G0A | ok I am not the only one: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/5723625352 |
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| 15:51.50 | Vailreth | food |
| 15:52.33 | Zolden | become poop |
| 15:52.42 | Vailreth | hah |
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| 16:03.34 | soulcarverr | lots of ppl on today |
| 16:04.11 | Ahli | but nobody talks |
| 16:04.29 | soulcarverr | everybody is hard at work apparently |
| 16:12.16 | Zolden | Ahli, how is your city? |
| 16:20.49 | Ahli | I didn't add much to it... but I'm slowly tackling my lift idea |
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| 16:25.35 | NGKrush | hi |
| 16:25.56 | NGKrush | i'm trying to compare the health of 1 unit with the other |
| 16:26.04 | NGKrush | coulod anyone point me in the right direction? |
| 16:26.19 | soulcarverr | unit properties |
| 16:26.23 | soulcarverr | current health |
| 16:26.25 | soulcarverr | of unit |
| 16:26.27 | hobbidude | in triggers or data? |
| 16:26.30 | soulcarverr | trigger |
| 16:26.38 | soulcarverr | data thats not so easy to do... |
| 16:26.39 | NGKrush | triggers yes |
| 16:26.45 | Dustin | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/general-chat/44515-mockup-for-a-potential-unit-wizard/#p4 |
| 16:26.49 | Dustin | I love that mockup |
| 16:26.53 | hobbidude | yes |
| 16:26.54 | hobbidude | me too |
| 16:26.54 | Dustin | That would save so much time |
| 16:27.13 | soulcarverr | it only takes like 2 minutes to do what that mock up says it would do... |
| 16:27.50 | soulcarverr | click unit ...duplicated ... select what you want to duplicated..... |
| 16:28.38 | hobbidude | i worry that abilities wouldn't bee covered well enough |
| 16:29.13 | NGKrush | i think i should rephrase my question: |
| 16:29.32 | soulcarverr | i answered it NG |
| 16:29.36 | hobbidude | yes |
| 16:29.38 | NGKrush | i'm looking for a way (in triggers) to compare the hp of one unit with the other. if 1 has more, he wins the game |
| 16:29.39 | soulcarverr | go to a condition |
| 16:29.40 | hobbidude | he did |
| 16:29.43 | soulcarverr | I told you |
| 16:29.57 | soulcarverr | go to a condition statement |
| 16:30.04 | soulcarverr | select a side |
| 16:30.11 | soulcarverr | high light the unit options |
| 16:30.16 | soulcarverr | search for properties |
| 16:30.21 | soulcarverr | use that |
| 16:30.37 | hobbidude | soul i have to ask was that reward icon project just for shits and giggles? |
| 16:30.45 | soulcarverr | hmm? |
| 16:31.05 | hobbidude | i had though you were decent at triggering |
| 16:31.06 | hobbidude | lol |
| 16:31.13 | soulcarverr | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/trigger-libraries/43572-libraries-leaderboard-banks-extras/#p1 |
| 16:31.20 | soulcarverr | its for my leaderboard |
| 16:31.27 | hobbidude | exactly |
| 16:31.27 | soulcarverr | I was trying to farm shit out |
| 16:31.30 | hobbidude | thats a nice leaderboard |
| 16:31.37 | hobbidude | aye |
| 16:31.41 | hobbidude | big project? |
| 16:31.41 | soulcarverr | but apparently I have to do it all myself |
| 16:31.47 | soulcarverr | its gotten pretty big |
| 16:31.53 | NGKrush | ah, found it, it was behind the ( symbol. thanks soulcarver :) |
| 16:32.01 | soulcarverr | writing an icon selection box atm |
| 16:32.02 | hobbidude | i only wish we had a proper ui viewer |
| 16:33.26 | soulcarverr | well |
| 16:33.36 | soulcarverr | theres only so many ways it can look |
| 16:33.45 | soulcarverr | takes some immagination |
| 16:33.52 | hobbidude | oh i will mention |
| 16:33.55 | hobbidude | if you want it really nice |
| 16:34.05 | hobbidude | you can use portraits and dialog items |
| 16:34.13 | hobbidude | as not and srry |
| 16:34.18 | soulcarverr | ? |
| 16:34.22 | hobbidude | for your icons |
| 16:34.27 | hobbidude | so they are animated |
| 16:34.29 | soulcarverr | eh |
| 16:34.37 | soulcarverr | dont want it being that involved |
| 16:34.43 | hobbidude | its isn't |
| 16:34.45 | soulcarverr | its more like just a funzies icon |
| 16:34.50 | hobbidude | np |
| 16:34.56 | soulcarverr | its super tiny |
| 16:35.00 | soulcarverr | 20x20 image |
| 16:35.06 | hobbidude | omg lol |
| 16:35.19 | soulcarverr | look at my youtube video lol |
| 16:35.22 | soulcarverr | they are small |
| 16:35.29 | hobbidude | by custom mouse cursor is more detailed |
| 16:35.35 | hobbidude | ya i saw- very nice work |
| 16:35.51 | hobbidude | best im seen (beside my own of course) |
| 16:35.56 | hobbidude | :) |
| 16:36.26 | soulcarverr | working on adding a built in ranking system and such |
| 16:36.39 | soulcarverr | should work on anybodies map |
| 16:37.17 | hobbidude | you should have the icon page show like 5-6 then then add auto scroll to move the images left/right |
| 16:37.28 | hobbidude | that would go nicely with your smooth system |
| 16:37.32 | soulcarverr | too much work |
| 16:37.39 | hobbidude | lol |
| 16:37.41 | soulcarverr | im just ognna display a grid of all of them |
| 16:37.49 | hobbidude | thats too easy tho |
| 16:37.50 | soulcarverr | and grey out the unavailable ones |
| 16:38.03 | soulcarverr | honestly I perfer to see them all |
| 16:38.09 | soulcarverr | then have to do more clicking |
| 16:38.11 | hobbidude | np |
| 16:38.21 | soulcarverr | easier to code as well |
| 16:38.28 | hobbidude | too true |
| 16:38.46 | soulcarverr | I have a wait that waits for the users response |
| 16:38.55 | soulcarverr | so I want users in and out of it quickly |
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| 16:39.37 | hobbidude | ?? |
| 16:39.49 | hobbidude | you mean it autocloses? |
| 16:39.58 | soulcarverr | I have a function |
| 16:40.04 | Taintedwisp | Hey Soulcarverr hows your Library going? |
| 16:40.10 | hobbidude | oh |
| 16:40.13 | soulcarverr | EditIcon(takes player number) |
| 16:40.19 | hobbidude | instead of have a button trigger you mean? |
| 16:40.26 | soulcarverr | the button |
| 16:40.30 | soulcarverr | calls edit icon |
| 16:40.59 | soulcarverr | editIcon sets "playericon" = to IconSelection(player) as string |
| 16:41.22 | soulcarverr | so the function waits untill the user clicks the done button |
| 16:41.26 | soulcarverr | on the selection dialog |
| 16:42.00 | soulcarverr | im just about done with a quick mock up of it |
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| 17:08.37 | soulcarver | really wish sc2 didnt crash my video card so often |
| 17:08.46 | hobbidude | what card? |
| 17:09.22 | hobbidude | does the monorail not have build features to make it run the track? |
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| 17:16.42 | Taintedwisp | Soulcarver is your whole computer shutting down when it does it? |
| 17:16.52 | egod | my kickstarter page is on the way |
| 17:16.57 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 17:17.16 | egod | 20 000$ ! |
| 17:17.32 | soulcarver | no my video card crashes... system locks up and cant recover with out a restart..... the video drivers dont work so hot on vista |
| 17:18.12 | Taintedwisp | ahhh |
| 17:18.17 | Taintedwisp | Old computer? |
| 17:19.53 | hobbidude | vista? my god its ancient |
| 17:22.13 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 17:22.48 | Taintedwisp | Guess ill consider mapping |
| 17:23.04 | hobbidude | conside |
| 17:23.09 | hobbidude | how dare you |
| 17:26.01 | Taintedwisp | i'm lazy and have been doing abilities all week haha |
| 17:26.24 | Taintedwisp | Vailreth, you do anything on your micro campaign recently? |
| 17:31.05 | Taintedwisp | I take that as a no |
| 17:32.23 | Taintedwisp | brb |
| 17:36.06 | Vailreth | my interests havent cycled back to mapping yet |
| 17:37.41 | Taintedwisp | ah |
| 17:46.02 | soulcarver | is it possible to change the layer level of a dialog? |
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| 17:46.12 | soulcarver | like move it to the front? |
| 17:46.57 | Dustin | Ya im pretty sure there's a layer position |
| 17:47.13 | Zolden | try to change render priority |
| 18:13.39 | Ahli | hmm, my train works better without deacceleration |
| 18:14.55 | Ahli | :D no lateral acceleration made it fly in a circle around its target |
| 18:16.09 | Zolden | which the Earth also do around the Sun |
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| 18:25.21 | Bounty | We're all gonna diiiiee!! |
| 18:25.26 | Bounty | dat hurricane |
| 18:26.09 | soulcarver | is it bad? |
| 18:26.24 | egod | will not, im safe in canada |
| 18:26.31 | egod | poor american, DIE DIE DIE |
| 18:26.58 | egod | hey bounty |
| 18:27.07 | Bounty | idk yet |
| 18:27.09 | egod | i have a kickstarter page soon |
| 18:27.13 | Bounty | i live in NJ though |
| 18:27.14 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:27.14 | egod | you will see |
| 18:27.34 | Bounty | for what egod |
| 18:27.40 | egod | my sc2 project |
| 18:27.46 | Bounty | ur diablo map? |
| 18:27.49 | egod | lol yes |
| 18:27.53 | Bounty | GL |
| 18:27.57 | egod | HAHA |
| 18:28.02 | Bounty | hope u hit ur goal |
| 18:28.02 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:28.15 | egod | well |
| 18:28.28 | Bounty | what is ur goal |
| 18:28.49 | egod | i have lot of thing to help soon, Website.com Forums Blog Facebook, Pub and more |
| 18:28.55 | egod | everything is in build |
| 18:29.05 | Bounty | yeah but what is your project goal |
| 18:29.07 | Bounty | for fund raising |
| 18:29.15 | egod | idk, what about |
| 18:29.20 | egod | 10 000$ |
| 18:29.20 | Bounty | ... |
| 18:29.24 | Bounty | you have to set a goal |
| 18:29.26 | Bounty | lo |
| 18:29.28 | Bounty | 10k? |
| 18:29.33 | egod | why not |
| 18:29.35 | Bounty | and what is that going towards |
| 18:29.41 | egod | 10 000$ |
| 18:29.52 | egod | a better life |
| 18:30.22 | egod | lol |
| 18:30.27 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:30.33 | Bounty | if you get it im so doing it |
| 18:30.37 | Bounty | but i would need 15k |
| 18:30.41 | Bounty | so i could hire some people |
| 18:30.47 | egod | it take 3xdays for kickstarter to acccept the project |
| 18:30.53 | egod | we wil see |
| 18:31.15 | egod | 15 000$ lol |
| 18:31.18 | egod | you crazy |
| 18:31.26 | egod | 10k is huge |
| 18:31.36 | Bounty | 15k is not unreasonable |
| 18:31.39 | Bounty | if im going to be hiring people |
| 18:31.41 | egod | the thing is |
| 18:31.50 | egod | How to make money when the map is finished? |
| 18:31.55 | egod | so i think about this |
| 18:32.03 | egod | and i only found 1 way |
| 18:32.14 | egod | REAL MONEY AUCTION HOUSE |
| 18:32.18 | Bounty | or |
| 18:32.20 | egod | on a personnal website |
| 18:32.23 | Bounty | you could make it so that in ur kickstarter |
| 18:32.35 | Bounty | you note that all money that exceeds the project goal will fund future updates |
| 18:32.40 | Bounty | :) |
| 18:32.48 | egod | hm |
| 18:33.01 | Bounty | Thats what i would use it for |
| 18:33.11 | Bounty | If i set my goal at 15k and i got like 20 or 25 |
| 18:33.20 | Bounty | I would use that money to do major content patches |
| 18:33.32 | Bounty | and keep the people i hired on board |
| 18:33.33 | egod | wil write this sec |
| 18:33.35 | egod | im taking note |
| 18:33.51 | Bounty | Also how does kickstarer work |
| 18:33.57 | Bounty | does the money just go straight to u? |
| 18:34.01 | Bounty | when they donate it |
| 18:34.04 | Ahli | people give you money, you start to run |
| 18:34.25 | Bounty | Do you only get the money if you hit your goal |
| 18:35.00 | egod | hm |
| 18:35.05 | egod | not sure |
| 18:35.43 | egod | i try to find other idea for pledge |
| 18:35.48 | egod | i got 3x right now |
| 18:37.04 | soulcarver | blizzard rules are that you cant advertise something like kickstarter in your map |
| 18:37.21 | egod | 1$ Join a Online Beta-Tester List 5$ Join a Online Alpha Tester List 50$ Join a Pre-Alpha Tester Online LIst (First Multiplayer test) with 1xUnique Item with your name on it! |
| 18:38.14 | Bounty | You can link to a site that advertises it though soulcarver |
| 18:38.15 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:38.18 | egod | in your map, no problem with that soulcarver |
| 18:38.32 | Bounty | You cant do that egod |
| 18:38.35 | Bounty | those are incentives |
| 18:38.37 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:38.44 | egod | how |
| 18:38.47 | egod | why |
| 18:39.00 | Bounty | Blizz said as long as its a donation and does not include any incentives |
| 18:39.17 | Bounty | So... you cannot offer them anything in return |
| 18:39.23 | egod | hm |
| 18:39.38 | Bounty | ESPECIALLY |
| 18:39.43 | Bounty | "with 1xUnique Item with your name on it!" |
| 18:39.47 | Bounty | hell to the no on that |
| 18:39.50 | Bounty | lo |
| 18:39.52 | Bounty | l |
| 18:40.06 | egod | if i write |
| 18:40.22 | Bounty | The only thing you can do is just say that you need funding to create the project |
| 18:40.25 | egod | Get a CHANCE to join the first Multiplayer Beta-Test Free on Bnet |
| 18:40.30 | Bounty | nope |
| 18:40.34 | Bounty | thats an illegal lottery |
| 18:40.40 | Bounty | :) |
| 18:40.41 | egod | arg |
| 18:41.35 | egod | im not selling anything, cause at the end, the map will be free |
| 18:41.37 | Bounty | Sorry man but the only thing we can do is just offer them the final product |
| 18:41.41 | egod | its just a chance to play it before |
| 18:41.43 | Bounty | you are selling something |
| 18:41.49 | Bounty | you're selling exclusive access |
| 18:41.59 | egod | hm |
| 18:42.02 | Bounty | and the chance thing is even worse bc that would be considered an illegal lottery |
| 18:42.10 | Bounty | Like buying a raffle ticket |
| 18:42.11 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:42.42 | Bounty | We could always just take Cloakens advice |
| 18:42.49 | Bounty | Dont like it? GTFO |
| 18:42.51 | Bounty | >.< |
| 18:43.06 | egod | i have to write peldge on kickstarter, or cant work |
| 18:43.31 | Bounty | try it |
| 18:43.35 | Bounty | and see what happens |
| 18:43.43 | Bounty | offer the tester thing |
| 18:43.54 | Bounty | do NOT offer that item |
| 18:44.00 | Bounty | that is definently a no no |
| 18:44.00 | egod | k |
| 18:44.10 | egod | will try this, fuk it, willr emove item |
| 18:44.12 | Bounty | you wont get sued or nething |
| 18:44.27 | Bounty | worst case scenario you get no money and blizz asks u to take it down or they take it down themselves |
| 18:44.31 | Bounty | you lose nothing |
| 18:44.32 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:44.43 | Bounty | well |
| 18:44.51 | Bounty | The only thing you would lose is hope, |
| 18:45.28 | egod | true |
| 18:45.31 | egod | but |
| 18:45.33 | egod | again |
| 18:45.59 | egod | the item name does not give a advantage to anyone, why its not legal |
| 18:46.14 | egod | its just a name |
| 18:46.16 | egod | like |
| 18:46.21 | egod | Bounty Rifle |
| 18:46.29 | egod | Bounty Rifle of Carnage |
| 18:46.38 | egod | Unique item |
| 18:46.40 | Bounty | dude |
| 18:46.42 | Bounty | dont do that |
| 18:46.44 | Bounty | im telling you |
| 18:46.56 | Bounty | DR offered people colored names in Mafia for donating and they didnt let him do that |
| 18:46.59 | Bounty | Dont be stupid |
| 18:47.01 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:47.07 | egod | oh |
| 18:47.10 | egod | k |
| 18:49.24 | egod | by giving 1000$ ! you also get a VIP access to another project named: Trifaction II a Stacraft 3RD person Hack and Slash RPG made by Bounty |
| 18:49.35 | Bounty | uh no |
| 18:49.44 | Bounty | Unless you give me a 80% cut of that |
| 18:49.45 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:51.19 | egod | by giving 10000$ you destroy all hope of Starcraft Universe to be succesful, enjoy |
| 18:52.18 | Bounty | You know what |
| 18:52.26 | Bounty | I think i might do a kickstarter for Haunted Forest |
| 18:52.45 | Bounty | I would really like to get some nice custom models, music, sound effects and textures |
| 18:53.15 | Ahli | and then people come and copy paste it out of your map |
| 18:55.48 | egod | anyway, will try it, maybe kickstarter will not accept it, if i got the agreement, will have to see if blizzard move or not |
| 18:56.01 | egod | whatever append, it cost me 0$ to try |
| 18:56.32 | Bounty | How could they copy paste it out of my map Ahli? |
| 18:57.06 | Ahli | by just opening the file? |
| 18:57.15 | Bounty | ... |
| 18:57.23 | Bounty | you can extract custom assets from a locked map file? |
| 18:57.28 | Ahli | yes |
| 18:57.57 | Bounty | you can do a cease and desist right? |
| 18:58.00 | Bounty | If you find someone using them |
| 18:58.04 | soulcarver | not really |
| 18:58.07 | soulcarver | doubt it lol |
| 18:58.20 | Ahli | only if you would have a contract with blizzard I guess |
| 18:58.22 | soulcarver | since youd have to file it against blizz |
| 18:58.31 | soulcarver | honestly |
| 18:58.38 | Bounty | You would file it against the person who stole it |
| 18:58.42 | soulcarver | dont try to make money or care about what you put out for maps |
| 18:58.45 | Bounty | And Blizz would remove it |
| 18:58.46 | Ahli | because by uploading it, the file is owned by Blizzard |
| 18:59.00 | soulcarver | what if its a bad claim though |
| 18:59.01 | Bounty | That is not true |
| 18:59.03 | Bounty | Ahli |
| 18:59.11 | soulcarver | i dunno |
| 18:59.13 | Bounty | They cannot fully do that |
| 18:59.17 | soulcarver | see how blizz responds then |
| 18:59.20 | Bounty | Because people use copyrighted shit all the time lol |
| 18:59.29 | Ahli | yes... and it's illegal |
| 18:59.31 | Bounty | So they cant just say if its on bnet we own it |
| 18:59.31 | egod | its money to help developpment of a project, its donation, if you not support it, you give nothing |
| 18:59.49 | soulcarver | create your own site |
| 18:59.53 | Bounty | Blizz does not care about copyright until the copyright owner reports it to them |
| 18:59.54 | soulcarver | with a pay pal link |
| 18:59.57 | Bounty | They told me that themselves |
| 19:00.01 | soulcarver | link to that from your map |
| 19:00.05 | soulcarver | dont ask for donation in map |
| 19:00.12 | soulcarver | thats how i would do it |
| 19:00.13 | Bounty | I linked to my youtube which has a donate button |
| 19:00.15 | egod | soulcarver , its done already. and yes, i received donation already |
| 19:00.20 | egod | i want more |
| 19:00.23 | Bounty | i have not received a cent |
| 19:00.26 | Bounty | in over 2 years |
| 19:00.33 | egod | i reached 100$ bounty |
| 19:00.34 | Ahli | it's the free harbor concept... like all file sharing sites use... |
| 19:00.35 | soulcarver | i think its dumb to give ppl money ..... for such things |
| 19:00.39 | egod | 100$ US |
| 19:00.46 | Bounty | ahd ive given people a lot more content then you have egod lol |
| 19:00.47 | Ahli | they only need to act after they were notified about the problem |
| 19:00.51 | soulcarver | 100 bucks is 5 hours of my time.... |
| 19:00.55 | egod | true hhahaha |
| 19:01.06 | soulcarver | rogers is sucking |
| 19:01.46 | Bounty | I have definently provided people with hundred of thousands of hours of content playtime total |
| 19:01.53 | Bounty | no doubt |
| 19:01.57 | egod | actuelly, its bashiock, he twitted my Twitch TV on Blizzard twitter and my page exploded, 30 000 view in one day, my donate button was up, and some people clicked it |
| 19:01.59 | *** join/#sc2mapster Leruster (c1c03e86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.192.62.134) |
| 19:01.59 | Bounty | I think i deserve SOMETHING lol |
| 19:02.29 | egod | lol bounty |
| 19:02.43 | Bounty | If you start from my very first map |
| 19:02.44 | Bounty | till now |
| 19:02.50 | Bounty | and add up all the playtime from all players |
| 19:02.56 | Bounty | it has to be well over 100,000 |
| 19:02.56 | soulcarver | yeah bouty |
| 19:03.01 | soulcarver | you make good maps |
| 19:03.07 | soulcarver | ppl play them |
| 19:03.11 | Bounty | I dont want people to HAVE to donate |
| 19:03.15 | Bounty | but i know there is someone |
| 19:03.18 | Bounty | who enjoyed what i did |
| 19:03.24 | Bounty | and is rich |
| 19:03.25 | egod | lol |
| 19:03.26 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:03.45 | egod | OMG ZING ZING ROCKET SO COOL, WHERE THE DONATE BUTTON |
| 19:03.51 | Bounty | Blizz should donate to me |
| 19:03.57 | soulcarver | blizz should |
| 19:03.58 | Bounty | bc of ppl buying SC2 to play Haunted Forest |
| 19:04.03 | Bounty | i want commission |
| 19:04.09 | soulcarver | i dunno about that |
| 19:04.15 | Bounty | Slender fans are hardcore |
| 19:04.17 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:04.29 | soulcarver | your ling game is my favorite |
| 19:04.33 | Bounty | Already like 30-40 reaction videos on youtube |
| 19:04.43 | Bounty | soulcarver |
| 19:04.47 | Bounty | the thing people dont realize |
| 19:04.53 | Bounty | Is everything ive done so far |
| 19:04.56 | Bounty | Is with ZERO funding |
| 19:05.00 | Bounty | and almost no time |
| 19:05.02 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:05.20 | egod | you worked lot on Trifaction dont you? |
| 19:05.25 | egod | DONT YOU? |
| 19:05.27 | soulcarver | I like your games but they generally arnt super indepth |
| 19:05.29 | Bounty | i was unemployed |
| 19:05.35 | Bounty | when i made trifaction |
| 19:05.46 | egod | ahhhh it explain all the depression |
| 19:05.49 | Bounty | :) |
| 19:06.11 | Bounty | and trifaction is far from done |
| 19:06.19 | Bounty | i got keedz ta feed |
| 19:06.21 | egod | you was like; fuk my life no job, no money, will make the best map ever made gogogogo! trifaction born and bang, a job come |
| 19:06.31 | Bounty | yep |
| 19:06.34 | soulcarver | too many different ppl making mobas |
| 19:06.41 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:06.44 | soulcarver | need to work on larger scales |
| 19:06.48 | soulcarver | 20 man teams |
| 19:06.52 | soulcarver | project leaders |
| 19:06.54 | *** join/#sc2mapster Thenarden (~Miranda@HSI-KBW-046-005-236-213.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 19:06.58 | Bounty | if you think TriFaction is anything like any other game you're so mistaken |
| 19:07.05 | soulcarver | ive played it |
| 19:07.05 | Bounty | even in its current state |
| 19:07.31 | Bounty | Show me another Third Person Action RPG Mass Tug DoTA TD |
| 19:07.37 | Bounty | :) |
| 19:07.39 | soulcarver | meh |
| 19:07.44 | soulcarver | i prefer top down |
| 19:07.46 | soulcarver | 2d |
| 19:07.56 | soulcarver | i generally dont like 3rd person view games |
| 19:07.58 | egod | Dustin did top down shooter |
| 19:08.00 | Bounty | top down would kill the combat |
| 19:08.05 | Bounty | would not feel as good |
| 19:08.10 | soulcarver | like i was saying |
| 19:08.11 | Bounty | and the feeling of large army combat |
| 19:08.14 | soulcarver | its moba rules |
| 19:08.20 | soulcarver | but 3rd person combat |
| 19:09.00 | egod | your 3rd view engine is just insane and the combat is INSANE, i love trifaction engine |
| 19:09.14 | egod | starcaft Universe engine SUCK SO MUCH compared to yours |
| 19:09.20 | Bounty | :) |
| 19:09.28 | egod | i remmeber when i tryed SCU arena, omfg what a shit |
| 19:09.33 | Bounty | Thats because i remake my entire engine everytime i make a new game |
| 19:09.35 | egod | compared to trifaction |
| 19:09.44 | Bounty | Haunted Forest uses my best WASD system |
| 19:09.54 | Bounty | as lagless as humanly possible |
| 19:10.43 | Bounty | There is a reason why my system is the best egod |
| 19:10.56 | Bounty | Because i've been the only one constantly pumping out these type of games since beta |
| 19:11.10 | egod | meh lol |
| 19:11.30 | soulcarver | well |
| 19:11.34 | soulcarver | finish one of them... |
| 19:11.39 | soulcarver | like |
| 19:11.49 | Bounty | ... |
| 19:11.55 | soulcarver | the moba one would have been really cool to see completed |
| 19:11.58 | soulcarver | ill give you that |
| 19:12.02 | Bounty | Photon Discs, Ling Ling Rocket, Doodad Hunt and Haunted Forest are finished |
| 19:12.16 | Bounty | there is no way i can do that for free soulcarver |
| 19:12.20 | soulcarver | but they only have so much depth |
| 19:12.23 | soulcarver | all im saying |
| 19:12.27 | Bounty | consider yourselves lucky i lost my job and had the time to do that |
| 19:12.28 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:12.35 | egod | true on that |
| 19:12.41 | egod | all the map you said have no deep |
| 19:12.48 | egod | its small and fun |
| 19:12.49 | Bounty | soulcarver, Trifaction was 20% done. There was going to be ALOT more to it |
| 19:12.51 | egod | that its |
| 19:13.14 | Bounty | You never noticed everytime i had a huge project that didnt get finished it was bc i could not afford it |
| 19:13.25 | Bounty | Project Avatars, Win the Crowd and TriFaction |
| 19:13.33 | soulcarver | well its a lot of work |
| 19:13.37 | egod | what is win the crowd? |
| 19:13.38 | soulcarver | i have like |
| 19:13.41 | soulcarver | 3 projects |
| 19:13.49 | soulcarver | i rotate through between life |
| 19:14.04 | Bounty | I just dont think its worth it for free imo |
| 19:14.17 | egod | Win the Crowd ?? what is this bounty |
| 19:14.20 | soulcarver | thats why its a hobby |
| 19:14.20 | Bounty | I think our time is worth something and people take advantage of the "mod" label |
| 19:14.30 | Bounty | Its not a hobby |
| 19:14.37 | Bounty | Anything can be labelled a hobby |
| 19:14.38 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:14.45 | soulcarver | its a hobby for me |
| 19:14.49 | soulcarver | if you wanna make money |
| 19:15.01 | soulcarver | program in an enviroment thats profitable |
| 19:15.07 | soulcarver | such as |
| 19:15.12 | soulcarver | android games |
| 19:15.15 | soulcarver | version |
| 19:15.18 | soulcarver | of ling ling rocket |
| 19:15.20 | soulcarver | gold mine |
| 19:15.28 | egod | the thing with money is some people have lot and a lot of money and like to give their money to cool ideas |
| 19:15.59 | soulcarver | thats what android market is |
| 19:16.45 | soulcarver | keep in mind blizzard doesnt get any money after the initial purchase of the game anyways |
| 19:17.22 | egod | hm, yes for D3 no for SC2 |
| 19:17.43 | egod | but for Sc2, at the begin, very begin, marketplace was selling map on Bnet |
| 19:17.52 | egod | and blizzard keep a % |
| 19:18.01 | egod | like d3 auntion house |
| 19:18.11 | egod | but thing append it didnt work |
| 19:18.40 | egod | technical problem pretty much |
| 19:18.43 | egod | whatever |
| 19:19.40 | Ahli | they had no time to implement it and there might be some law problems that would need to be figured out |
| 19:19.46 | Repo | New announcement: Lootify - http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/lootify/ |
| 19:19.48 | egod | they use Bounty time now so he make some small and fun games to play on bnet for free and blizz like this |
| 19:21.45 | egod | lootify....its dump |
| 19:25.00 | *** join/#sc2mapster DeadZergling (322e8dd1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.46.141.209) |
| 19:28.41 | Bounty | I'm going to be pissed if Day9 does not play Haunted Forest |
| 19:28.50 | Bounty | for his fright week |
| 19:29.08 | soulcarver | bounty |
| 19:29.18 | Bounty | soulcarver |
| 19:30.15 | DeadZergling | seriously still on about that bounty? |
| 19:30.29 | Bounty | i actually only JUST said it |
| 19:30.35 | Bounty | and yes, because it makes sense |
| 19:30.47 | DeadZergling | and you just said it a few days ago too, lol |
| 19:31.01 | Bounty | So? Atleast i'm not Taintedwisp and saying it every 10 seconds |
| 19:32.00 | egod | lol |
| 19:32.12 | DeadZergling | I realize he is the standard to never be below |
| 19:32.18 | DeadZergling | but really that isn't saying much Bounty, lol |
| 19:32.29 | Bounty | Yes it is |
| 19:32.40 | Bounty | :) |
| 19:32.53 | Bounty | Btw |
| 19:32.57 | soulcarver | he dead |
| 19:33.02 | soulcarver | can you help me test something? |
| 19:33.02 | Bounty | I love how i get so much praise for TriFaction yet nobody wanted to help test it |
| 19:33.08 | DeadZergling | it's like failing an IQ test and saying, oh, at least I didn't get a -1 |
| 19:33.40 | egod | i played trifaction yesterday on bvnet with a friend, my friend was very confuse with the UI and didnt understand how to cast a spell |
| 19:33.49 | egod | the engine is good, the rest suck |
| 19:33.52 | Bounty | Its an Alpha... |
| 19:33.58 | Bounty | Derp |
| 19:34.02 | Bounty | What do you expect |
| 19:34.03 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:34.19 | Bounty | Everything that was in place UI was just so testers could understand |
| 19:34.27 | DeadZergling | I can soul |
| 19:34.32 | DeadZergling | sorry, was getting a drink |
| 19:34.32 | egod | hehe i know, for me i understand |
| 19:34.40 | egod | but for a first time |
| 19:34.43 | egod | he was very lost |
| 19:34.47 | Bounty | well yeah |
| 19:34.53 | Bounty | its not designed to pick up and play |
| 19:34.55 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:35.00 | egod | i tryed to explain him: its like combo! you ahve to hit before right click |
| 19:35.05 | Bounty | it was designed to be explained beforehand and then played |
| 19:35.08 | Bounty | as a tester |
| 19:35.10 | Bounty | >.< |
| 19:37.20 | soulcarver | dead you gonna be available in 10 min |
| 19:37.32 | DeadZergling | probably, but alert is another matter |
| 19:37.36 | DeadZergling | I'll be around, lol |
| 19:38.08 | Bounty | You know what i love about TriFaction though egod |
| 19:38.15 | DeadZergling | this have anything to do w/ your leaderboard project? |
| 19:38.15 | Bounty | I LOVE playing as an Imp |
| 19:38.16 | Bounty | :) |
| 19:39.52 | egod | i never tryed |
| 19:40.06 | Bounty | really? |
| 19:40.08 | Bounty | its fun |
| 19:40.12 | Bounty | cannons pew pew |
| 19:40.22 | Bounty | i just build shit loads of barricades and cannons at my base |
| 19:40.24 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:41.13 | DeadZergling | lol, there is haunted forest in the arcade up and coming........... right next to dragon quest rpg :) |
| 19:41.24 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:41.30 | Bounty | It keeps getting on the up and coming |
| 19:41.34 | Bounty | every other day |
| 19:41.45 | Bounty | It still has not been beat |
| 19:41.47 | Bounty | =P |
| 19:41.59 | DeadZergling | a video on youtube suggested otherwise |
| 19:42.03 | Bounty | ? |
| 19:42.16 | Bounty | link? |
| 19:42.20 | DeadZergling | guy made a video of them beating it, at least the first episode or whatever |
| 19:42.26 | Bounty | yeah |
| 19:42.29 | Bounty | you need to do both |
| 19:42.32 | Bounty | to get victory |
| 19:42.33 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:42.52 | DeadZergling | so you get on the truck, only to have to start over again? |
| 19:43.04 | Bounty | um no |
| 19:43.12 | Bounty | the second chapter is a totally diff map |
| 19:43.27 | DeadZergling | aye, well only referring to the first chapter |
| 19:43.37 | Bounty | link btw? |
| 19:43.48 | DeadZergling | i'd have to look it up, was a few days ago |
| 19:44.17 | DeadZergling | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IvDuYqXhIM |
| 19:44.28 | Bounty | ah |
| 19:44.30 | Bounty | saladtosser |
| 19:44.33 | Bounty | :) |
| 19:44.43 | Bounty | i like watching them play |
| 19:51.37 | *** join/#sc2mapster Taintedwisp (4bb541ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.181.65.238) |
| 19:52.16 | Taintedwisp | Hey is it possible to make a simple buff that reflects damage? |
| 19:52.30 | DeadZergling | yep, ask ck sometime when he is on |
| 19:52.33 | DeadZergling | he made one, lol |
| 19:52.50 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:53.01 | Taintedwisp | I was looking through the modifications and i couldnt find anything |
| 19:53.13 | DeadZergling | is just a damage response |
| 19:53.52 | Taintedwisp | Actually I think Ill give it to another Hero, Makes things simpler on me |
| 19:56.15 | Bounty | Would be nice if i knew if i had work 2morrow |
| 19:56.18 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:56.19 | soulcarver | hey taint |
| 19:56.22 | soulcarver | and dead |
| 19:56.24 | Taintedwisp | hey soulcarver |
| 19:56.35 | Taintedwisp | did you know? bounty might just love men? |
| 19:56.46 | Taintedwisp | True story |
| 19:56.49 | soulcarver | its a possibility i hear |
| 19:56.50 | Bounty | You'll regret that if i'm killed in this storm :) |
| 19:56.54 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:56.55 | soulcarver | hop on bnet |
| 19:57.00 | Taintedwisp | Oh shit I forgot that storms right where your at |
| 19:57.06 | Taintedwisp | kk ill be on in a sec |
| 19:57.20 | Bounty | I'm only an hour away from Atlantic City |
| 19:57.22 | Bounty | >.< |
| 20:01.59 | Bounty | I hope these forecasts are wrong |
| 20:02.00 | Bounty | haha |
| 20:02.06 | Bounty | the eye goes literally right over us |
| 20:05.50 | Taintedwisp | Hey bounty whats that game where you select your username at the beginning? |
| 20:15.57 | egod | Sandy |
| 20:22.27 | Taintedwisp | LOL |
| 20:22.31 | Taintedwisp | Hey bounty you there? |
| 20:22.38 | Taintedwisp | They evacuated NYC hahahahaaha |
| 20:22.47 | Bounty | ? |
| 20:22.49 | Bounty | huh? |
| 20:22.53 | Taintedwisp | They shouldnt have warned them, less NY peeps |
| 20:23.03 | Taintedwisp | yeah didnt you hear? they evacuated NYC |
| 20:23.07 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:23.08 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 20:23.10 | Bounty | wow |
| 20:23.18 | Taintedwisp | Sooo i doubt its a hoax.. |
| 20:23.19 | Taintedwisp | Lol |
| 20:23.27 | Taintedwisp | I would be securing some shit in my house |
| 20:23.33 | Taintedwisp | and getting candles together |
| 20:23.58 | Taintedwisp | candles + Lighter = best friend in storm |
| 20:28.47 | Taintedwisp | BOONSFARM WINE!!! |
| 20:28.48 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 20:29.57 | Taintedwisp | BOunty is Unamerican |
| 20:29.57 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 20:30.10 | Taintedwisp | Damn mexican |
| 20:30.11 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 20:31.00 | Bounty | im not surprised they got NYC out |
| 20:31.05 | Bounty | its surrounded by water |
| 20:31.06 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:31.14 | egod | its just a little part of NYC |
| 20:31.22 | egod | 375 000 person |
| 20:31.40 | Bounty | Incase you guys are interested |
| 20:31.46 | Bounty | google map Glendora NJ |
| 20:31.48 | Bounty | thats where i am |
| 20:31.49 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:32.43 | Taintedwisp | OH SWEET, Hey Egod, You know where I hope gets wiped off the map? Glendory NJ.. that place stinks |
| 20:32.46 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 20:33.01 | egod | lol |
| 20:33.20 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:33.22 | Bounty | i hope i get killed now |
| 20:33.25 | Bounty | so you can live with that |
| 20:33.39 | egod | we will remember trifaction |
| 20:33.45 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:33.53 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 20:34.21 | Taintedwisp | On your gravestone all it will say is, Loved By none, But made trifaction so we let him live |
| 20:34.28 | egod | oh yeah, you remember the guys who made trifaction? i heard he die in Sandy storm? is that true? how we can get this map back?! |
| 20:34.47 | Bounty | Can guarantee you this |
| 20:34.50 | Bounty | My maps will be top played |
| 20:34.54 | Bounty | If that happens |
| 20:34.55 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 20:35.19 | Bounty | Not sure how that news would even get out though |
| 20:35.26 | Bounty | Its not like i can tell people i am dead |
| 20:35.27 | Taintedwisp | People really seem to enjoy the haunted forest, but I played it, it was laggier on low settings then high settings, so I was on high settings, and it just isnt enough to get me scared |
| 20:35.32 | Taintedwisp | The sounds were good though |
| 20:35.57 | Taintedwisp | Its just that I recognized her as adjutent lol |
| 20:36.21 | Bounty | I guess if after this week you dont see me ever again |
| 20:36.26 | Bounty | Presume me dead |
| 20:36.27 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:36.42 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 20:36.54 | egod | just send a pledge of 2000$ to bounty kickstarter page and he sneding you a good computer with a good graphics card to play Haunted forest in High rez |
| 20:38.14 | Bounty | I love how i still dont know if i have work 2morrow |
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| 20:42.44 | DeadZergling | yea, played haunted forest a bit just now |
| 20:43.01 | DeadZergling | bnet lag and dropping players sure ruins the 'mood' |
| 20:43.04 | egod | not me |
| 20:43.13 | DeadZergling | but my tendency to always aim my cursor at heads |
| 20:43.19 | DeadZergling | when i see people in first person mode |
| 20:43.24 | DeadZergling | makes it difficult too, lol |
| 20:43.59 | DeadZergling | got 19 crates, no one could find the mysterious truck |
| 20:44.55 | Bounty | I dont think anyone who has been hyped up at all about Haunted Forest will enjoy it lol |
| 20:44.58 | egod | should i put my garbage outside cause i really want thez grab them during the storm |
| 20:45.11 | DeadZergling | oh, hyped I was not |
| 20:45.16 | DeadZergling | just trying to avoid my project awhile |
| 20:45.24 | Bounty | Not hyped but |
| 20:45.26 | Bounty | informed |
| 20:45.29 | Bounty | like oh play this map its scary |
| 20:45.49 | Bounty | Which it is but certain people seem to be immune to it lol |
| 20:45.56 | DeadZergling | hard for me to get into a first person map where I don't get to shoot what I see |
| 20:45.58 | Bounty | and if you want more mood, play single player mode |
| 20:46.08 | Bounty | well thats on you lol |
| 20:46.16 | Bounty | For people who enjoyed Amnesia and Slender its perfect |
| 20:46.24 | DeadZergling | aye, I agree bounty |
| 20:46.29 | DeadZergling | besides the bnet lag |
| 20:46.32 | DeadZergling | is great for those wanting that |
| 20:46.49 | Bounty | If ppl wanna kill shit, play Photon Disc |
| 20:46.50 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:46.59 | Bounty | and you actually experience bnet lag? |
| 20:47.03 | Bounty | i get zero |
| 20:47.16 | Taintedwisp | actually bounty that would be cool, If you could plant traps to slow the bitch down hha |
| 20:47.17 | egod | california servers are? |
| 20:47.31 | Bounty | ITs funny i live in NJ |
| 20:47.36 | Bounty | the opposite of Cali |
| 20:47.39 | Bounty | and i get no lag |
| 20:47.52 | Taintedwisp | I'm in NC, and there Minor at best, But I was getting Studder lag |
| 20:48.01 | Bounty | oh |
| 20:48.04 | Bounty | not lag lag |
| 20:48.06 | Bounty | framerate lag |
| 20:48.19 | Taintedwisp | When I was holding the W key, it kept skipping |
| 20:48.27 | Taintedwisp | but when I was veiwing someone else it was fine |
| 20:48.39 | Taintedwisp | no it wasnt framerate la |
| 20:48.45 | Taintedwisp | The other people were fine |
| 20:48.49 | Bounty | What was your framerate |
| 20:48.54 | Taintedwisp | it was just my character that was doing it |
| 20:49.02 | Taintedwisp | 25-30 |
| 20:49.25 | Bounty | Might have been your framerate |
| 20:49.28 | Bounty | Thats pretty low |
| 20:49.50 | Taintedwisp | no it isnt |
| 20:49.56 | Bounty | Yes, it is |
| 20:49.59 | Taintedwisp | i play with 22 FPS in WoW |
| 20:50.03 | Bounty | ok? |
| 20:50.06 | Taintedwisp | and there is no noticable lag whatsoever |
| 20:50.19 | Bounty | Have you ever even played a game with 60+ fps? |
| 20:50.35 | Taintedwisp | yeah, After 20 FPS theres not too much of a difference |
| 20:50.52 | Bounty | LOL |
| 20:50.54 | Bounty | wow |
| 20:51.12 | Bounty | you blow my mind sometimes with the amount of stupidity you manage to fit into one sentence :) |
| 20:51.26 | Taintedwisp | riiiight... |
| 20:51.48 | Taintedwisp | Dude if that was true, I wouldnt be able to keep up with other players online |
| 20:52.08 | Bounty | Im not saying that |
| 20:52.23 | Bounty | But you're saying there is no big diff after 20 fps |
| 20:52.23 | soulcarver | 20-30 fps is playable just not the prettiest |
| 20:52.25 | Bounty | which is so wrong |
| 20:52.40 | Bounty | After 60 FPS you dont see much of a diff |
| 20:53.05 | Taintedwisp | well yeah Mines ugly, but I usually dont have controls lag |
| 20:53.10 | Taintedwisp | And this wasnt a framerate lag anyways |
| 20:53.20 | Taintedwisp | The framerate the entire screen lags, not just my character |
| 20:53.45 | Bounty | lol its not ur character |
| 20:53.51 | Taintedwisp | I saw my team mates running just fine, both while i was alive and dead, my character would studder like there was Horrid Battle.net lag |
| 20:54.02 | Bounty | ... |
| 20:54.04 | Bounty | play again |
| 20:54.07 | Bounty | and ask someone if ur stuttering |
| 20:54.09 | Bounty | ur character |
| 20:54.24 | Taintedwisp | I did ask them... they said yeah, it does that some times.... |
| 20:54.36 | Bounty | ... |
| 20:54.40 | Bounty | im talking about your CHARACTER |
| 20:54.44 | Bounty | if i see you |
| 20:54.45 | Bounty | in game |
| 20:54.48 | Taintedwisp | I was ranging 30-35 on all low settings, and 20-25 with shaders and lighting on high |
| 20:54.51 | Bounty | are you literally stuttering |
| 20:54.52 | Bounty | the answer is no |
| 20:54.54 | Bounty | its just you |
| 20:55.00 | Taintedwisp | Both i had the characters movemetns studder |
| 20:55.25 | Bounty | do i need to show you all the videos on youtube of ppl playing with no stutter? |
| 20:55.27 | Bounty | its your computer |
| 20:55.40 | Taintedwisp | okay guy.... |
| 20:55.55 | soulcarver | now now |
| 20:56.04 | Taintedwisp | Thats not framerate, lag, I know the differenece between the two |
| 20:56.13 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADUknvDLZ5s |
| 20:56.14 | Bounty | holy crap |
| 20:56.17 | Bounty | look at that stuttering |
| 20:56.19 | Bounty | OGM |
| 20:56.23 | Bounty | OOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGG |
| 20:56.26 | Taintedwisp | it was deff controls laggin. Framerate lag would have laged my camera turning too |
| 20:56.58 | Bounty | w/e dude |
| 20:57.03 | Bounty | if you dont wanna listen to me then fine |
| 20:57.13 | Bounty | but i know for a fact framerate affects control input lag |
| 20:57.15 | Taintedwisp | Actually bounty that video the character is studdering |
| 20:57.23 | Bounty | LOL |
| 20:57.25 | Bounty | ok im done |
| 20:57.29 | Bounty | conversation over |
| 20:57.40 | Taintedwisp | Its like while your holding the W key it stops and starts |
| 20:58.08 | Taintedwisp | okay conversation over, you dont wanna listen to feedback dont doesnt matter to me |
| 20:58.20 | Bounty | its not feedback |
| 20:58.24 | Bounty | your just making shit up at this point |
| 20:58.30 | Bounty | if you see stutter in that video |
| 20:58.33 | Bounty | something is wrong with u |
| 20:58.34 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:00.34 | egod | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-KWL20ux24&feature=fvwrel |
| 21:01.20 | egod | check the link bounty |
| 21:01.25 | Bounty | i did |
| 21:01.27 | Bounty | what about it? |
| 21:01.38 | egod | cooll background atmosphere for your map |
| 21:01.43 | DeadZergling | no, it was definitely bnet lag bounty |
| 21:01.49 | DeadZergling | what I experienced |
| 21:02.06 | Bounty | Yeah but framerate affects bnet response time |
| 21:02.14 | DeadZergling | would take awhile for it to know I said go forward, use sprint, etc |
| 21:02.55 | DeadZergling | flashlight and turning were very responsive |
| 21:03.02 | DeadZergling | movement, not so much |
| 21:04.48 | DeadZergling | By the way, those bnet reviews were pretty brutal, lol |
| 21:04.48 | Taintedwisp | Well reguardless imma start workin on my abilities |
| 21:05.23 | Bounty | what bnet reviews? |
| 21:05.25 | Taintedwisp | the map is good, and he did a great job making it, but I just noticed Stuttering, it could be because I changed settings mid game, or something I dunno |
| 21:05.37 | DeadZergling | oh, like every other review for ling ling, lol |
| 21:05.50 | Taintedwisp | Ling ling is great |
| 21:06.08 | Bounty | oh |
| 21:06.14 | Bounty | yeah, Ling Ling got trashed pretty bad but w/e |
| 21:06.21 | Taintedwisp | They just dont like ling ling because it should be on a touch phone according to them, though i dunno how the fuck bounty could do that haah |
| 21:06.36 | Bounty | Yeah i thought that review was funny |
| 21:06.45 | Bounty | As if TD's should not be on phones |
| 21:06.54 | Taintedwisp | I was sitting there thinking, how the fuck is he going tomake the arrows go in the right directions lol |
| 21:07.18 | Taintedwisp | My map cant be on a phone :P |
| 21:08.09 | soulcarver | anything can be on a phone really.... |
| 21:08.26 | DeadZergling | I can see why they'd say that about ling ling |
| 21:08.26 | Taintedwisp | I hate phones... sooo damn bad |
| 21:08.30 | DeadZergling | given the simple nature of it |
| 21:08.38 | Taintedwisp | yeah I like it, BECAUSE its simple though |
| 21:08.45 | Taintedwisp | I think i already gave it its 5 stars |
| 21:09.04 | Taintedwisp | I forget what I gave Haunted Forest, I think 4/5 or 5/5 i dont remember |
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| 21:46.17 | Bounty | If i have to go to work 2morrow and i get into an accident because of the storm can i sue my job? :) |
| 21:47.29 | egod | die |
| 22:09.51 | NGKrush | does anyone know why a dialog window/button layout can suddenly mess up without changing triggers? |
| 22:10.11 | NGKrush | it was working fine and i added some stuff, deleted it and now my menu is all messed up |
| 22:10.23 | NGKrush | even after restart |
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| 22:24.17 | Exaken | . |
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| 22:34.28 | Bounty | If i am killed in this storm, will you dedicate a news post to my memory Sixen? |
| 22:36.43 | Sixen | maybe |
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| 22:37.30 | DeadZergling | ill complain about maps every day for a week in here to honor your memory bounty |
| 22:37.30 | ckSynergy | sup |
| 22:38.05 | ckSynergy | man this morning sucked. was gonna talk about how to do heal effects that scale with bonuses, but my internet died lol |
| 22:44.39 | Repo | New experimental map: Lightning Stream - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/lightning-stream/ |
| 22:45.51 | NGKrush | hay, anyone had any problems with the dialog windows messing up? |
| 22:46.00 | NGKrush | now they wont even appear.. :/ |
| 22:46.56 | NGKrush | hmm |
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| 22:57.13 | ckSynergy | NGK: whatcha mean? |
| 22:57.21 | ckSynergy | I've been having a number of issues with the game lol |
| 23:01.15 | ckSynergy | but whats your problem |
| 23:06.54 | NGKrush | well |
| 23:07.13 | NGKrush | my buttons on my dialoge box are at a strange position |
| 23:07.18 | NGKrush | way to the right and downwayds |
| 23:07.39 | NGKrush | ill make a screenie |
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| 23:09.03 | Taintedwisp | damn chalkies |
| 23:11.04 | NGKrush | hmm. printscreen returns a black screen. |
| 23:11.28 | Taintedwisp | SUCK IT |
| 23:11.29 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:11.29 | NGKrush | well anyway. i had my whole menu aligned, and then suddenly, without changing anything it's out of alignment |
| 23:11.32 | Taintedwisp | ngk |
| 23:11.35 | Taintedwisp | Go to documents |
| 23:11.41 | Taintedwisp | you can get the screen shot from there? |
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| 23:11.51 | Leruster | hey everyone |
| 23:11.55 | Leruster | who's not asleep ;) |
| 23:12.00 | Taintedwisp | Documents > Starcraft 2 |
| 23:12.04 | Taintedwisp | ITs 7 PM... |
| 23:12.05 | Taintedwisp | Grandma |
| 23:12.06 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:12.13 | Leruster | is it? ;) |
| 23:12.13 | NGKrush | ty tainted |
| 23:12.20 | Taintedwisp | Not everyone goes to sleep since the sun goes down |
| 23:12.20 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 23:12.40 | Leruster | well, here it's already dark for like 8 hours ;) |
| 23:12.40 | Taintedwisp | haha, whats up |
| 23:12.42 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 23:12.49 | Taintedwisp | Well Im not there am I? |
| 23:12.50 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 23:12.57 | Taintedwisp | Must be Europe |
| 23:13.03 | Leruster | yeah, propably that's why you're not asleep :D |
| 23:13.08 | Leruster | joke |
| 23:13.12 | Taintedwisp | AMERICA!!! |
| 23:13.13 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:13.13 | Leruster | yeah, Europe |
| 23:13.17 | Leruster | 'Merica :) |
| 23:13.22 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 23:13.28 | Leruster | 7PM America? |
| 23:13.31 | Leruster | East coast? |
| 23:13.35 | Taintedwisp | yup |
| 23:13.37 | Leruster | didn't you have your time changed? |
| 23:13.41 | Taintedwisp | Dunno |
| 23:13.53 | Taintedwisp | I dont pay attention to what those damn hippies say about saving candles |
| 23:13.54 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:13.58 | Taintedwisp | I have electricity |
| 23:13.58 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:14.23 | Taintedwisp | November 4, 2012, 2:00am. |
| 23:14.27 | Taintedwisp | Thats when the time goes back |
| 23:14.27 | Leruster | hehe well this whole changing business is just bullcrap |
| 23:14.40 | Taintedwisp | Yup, Its just so the damn golfers can play a bit late |
| 23:14.47 | Leruster | oh :) thought it's the same day for entire world |
| 23:14.49 | Taintedwisp | lazy fuks, need to change their signs lol |
| 23:15.03 | Leruster | can't they just use like fluorescent balls? :P |
| 23:15.04 | Taintedwisp | Theres nothing Scientific about it... |
| 23:15.19 | Taintedwisp | They only started changing it to save candlelight.... |
| 23:15.22 | Taintedwisp | but now its unneeded |
| 23:15.27 | Leruster | I know, the energy saving is no reason too |
| 23:15.30 | Taintedwisp | But golfers keep it going |
| 23:15.39 | Leruster | lol :D |
| 23:15.43 | Leruster | blame it on golfers ;) |
| 23:16.04 | Taintedwisp | Damn right, Fuck those dirtbag golfers making me late for work or school every year |
| 23:16.06 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:16.09 | Taintedwisp | 2 times a year... dammit |
| 23:16.10 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:16.15 | Leruster | :P |
| 23:16.28 | Leruster | actually it's one time, the second time you're one hour before time ;) |
| 23:16.44 | Taintedwisp | yeah i know |
| 23:16.46 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:16.55 | Taintedwisp | I never change mine tbh |
| 23:17.09 | A1win | windows changed it automatically |
| 23:17.11 | Taintedwisp | I just think to myself that I have to get up an hour earlier or an hour later |
| 23:17.12 | Leruster | it's changing all by itself or you just |
| 23:17.13 | A1win | *changes |
| 23:17.16 | Leruster | ok :) |
| 23:17.25 | Taintedwisp | < not set to synch |
| 23:17.31 | A1win | <.< |
| 23:17.47 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 23:17.58 | Leruster | well |
| 23:17.59 | Taintedwisp | though come to think of it... it is Synched... |
| 23:18.00 | Taintedwisp | wtf |
| 23:18.00 | A1win | isn't it more of an annoyance not to do it than do it |
| 23:18.01 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:18.07 | Taintedwisp | it should be 6 pm right now... |
| 23:18.15 | Taintedwisp | Dammit, I knew they were wasting my time |
| 23:18.20 | Leruster | yeah it should :) |
| 23:18.54 | Taintedwisp | oh well |
| 23:18.59 | Taintedwisp | not worth changing |
| 23:19.09 | Taintedwisp | Dirtbag microsoft |
| 23:19.24 | NGKrush | https://www.dropbox.com/s/1c8v7qfv9imwvtu/Screenshot2012-10-29%2000_08_16.jpg |
| 23:19.50 | NGKrush | this is the mis alignment |
| 23:19.50 | Taintedwisp | Whats that NGK? |
| 23:19.56 | Taintedwisp | ah |
| 23:20.00 | Zandose | does anyone know how to get past the limit of 10-500% for the scale of doodads? i can't find the doodad i need in the data editor. |
| 23:20.02 | Taintedwisp | Gotta filld with the anchors? |
| 23:20.05 | NGKrush | nothing changed in triggers, but it suddenly moved |
| 23:20.29 | Taintedwisp | Zandose actually I might |
| 23:20.32 | A1win | the editor does garbage collection from the generated script when you reload a map |
| 23:20.37 | Zandose | a change in game-screen size causing things to change? |
| 23:20.43 | Taintedwisp | Go to models, and set it to 500, then go to the actor and set that to 500 |
| 23:20.48 | Leruster | can you parent things? |
| 23:20.49 | Taintedwisp | then it should be around 25,000 |
| 23:20.49 | Taintedwisp | hha |
| 23:20.50 | A1win | undoing/redoing can mess up your triggers |
| 23:21.06 | NGKrush | does that mean i need to do them all over? |
| 23:21.25 | A1win | dunno, haven't had issues with it |
| 23:21.33 | NGKrush | didnt change my resolution zandose |
| 23:21.36 | A1win | try copy-pasting the code and deleting the old |
| 23:21.43 | NGKrush | tried :( |
| 23:21.47 | Taintedwisp | Shhhh going to fiddle witht he triggers |
| 23:21.52 | A1win | maybe your triggers are just wrong |
| 23:21.54 | Taintedwisp | Dont tell my triggerer |
| 23:21.55 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:21.58 | A1win | and they looked fine because of a bug |
| 23:22.10 | NGKrush | it was correct first, didnt change them |
| 23:22.13 | NGKrush | hmmm |
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| 23:22.21 | A1win | yeah, but it might have been a bug that made them seem right |
| 23:22.35 | Zandose | how did you go about aligning them? |
| 23:22.40 | NGKrush | i'll copy them to a new map |
| 23:22.41 | NGKrush | tnx |
| 23:23.03 | A1win | copying won't fix it if the triggers are wrong :P |
| 23:23.04 | NGKrush | just changing the X,Y numbers |
| 23:23.27 | Zandose | any anchoring? |
| 23:23.37 | NGKrush | well, it was funny because i made a new box, put in the top left and suddenly my first box triggers said top left |
| 23:23.43 | NGKrush | so i cahnged them back to center |
| 23:23.48 | NGKrush | thats when the probs started |
| 23:24.23 | NGKrush | just a simple box, i did one of the mapster tutorials |
| 23:25.09 | Zandose | rule 1) nothing is like it appears in the editor... |
| 23:25.13 | NGKrush | and this misalignment on the screenshot is from a new box i made with new triggers |
| 23:25.39 | NGKrush | so that means this bug breaks all my alignment? |
| 23:25.58 | NGKrush | could I realign based on this bug (put in negative numbers, etc)? |
| 23:26.13 | Zandose | go back to a earlier revision of your map and try to recreate the problem to figure it out> |
| 23:26.24 | NGKrush | yeah, i'll do that |
| 23:26.35 | NGKrush | tnx for thinking along |
| 23:26.49 | Zandose | also post the code for others to look over |
| 23:29.13 | Taintedwisp | Alright there i edited what was bothering me lol |
| 23:30.32 | Zandose | is there any way to allow you to get above 500% scale on doodads in the terrain editor? |
| 23:31.21 | Taintedwisp | I thought I just told you zandos |
| 23:31.58 | Taintedwisp | Go into the data editor, create a new model, and use the doodads file, then create a new doodad actor and use the model you just created, that will allow you to use it without worries |
| 23:32.02 | Zandose | yes you did but that was for just changing the models base scale |
| 23:32.24 | Taintedwisp | Yeah theres no way of getting above 500% |
| 23:32.29 | Zandose | ic |
| 23:32.33 | Taintedwisp | Unless you create its own actor and model |
| 23:32.46 | Zandose | was hoping for a cheat |
| 23:32.50 | Taintedwisp | ah |
| 23:33.15 | Zandose | then ill go with plan 2, more doodads. |
| 23:33.34 | Leruster | when behind - more dodads :) |
| 23:33.53 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 23:33.57 | Taintedwisp | Hey any triggerers here? |
| 23:34.13 | Taintedwisp | Its not urgent but I just wanna know if something is possible |
| 23:34.20 | Zandose | anyone interesting in making/designing rpg levels with only doodads? |
| 23:34.20 | Taintedwisp | Is it possible to Color Dialogs? |
| 23:34.55 | Zandose | i think so. something about using the correct background and color option |
| 23:35.56 | Taintedwisp | aWhat I am wanting is, AFTER http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/31/865/OSLeaderBoard.jpg is implemented, I want to change all my Dialog Items colors to match it |
| 23:37.32 | Zandose | not sure about colored text but everything else is doable with the right models/art |
| 23:37.56 | Taintedwisp | LOL i know colored text is, I dont want the text colored |
| 23:37.56 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:38.26 | Taintedwisp | Ill talk to my Triggerer about it, and see if it something I can do, or if he will need to do it |
| 23:40.18 | Zandose | anyone got a good rpg-like map i could steal? |
| 23:41.47 | A1win | are you expecting a positive answer to that question? ;x |
| 23:41.57 | Zandose | guess ill have to make my own. i suck at the terrain editor |
| 23:42.07 | Zandose | no but i still tried |
| 23:42.10 | A1win | heh |
| 23:43.22 | Zandose | need to build a city first... god help me |
| 23:44.36 | Taintedwisp | Zandose, Hit the Maps button haah |
| 23:45.29 | Zandose | another problem... I want all doodads i place in the terrain editor to be able to overlap (placed at the same place). |
| 23:45.59 | Taintedwisp | Hold Shift zandose |
| 23:46.15 | Taintedwisp | or double cick a doodad and hit ignore placement |
| 23:46.26 | Taintedwisp | Hold shift while placing or the otherway |
| 23:46.34 | Taintedwisp | < Terrain editor first :P |
| 23:47.32 | Zandose | ty |
| 23:47.54 | Zandose | [19:46] <Taintedwisp> < Terrain editor first :P < makes me a map :) |
| 23:48.00 | Taintedwisp | Nope |
| 23:48.03 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 23:48.09 | Zandose | crys in corner |
| 23:48.14 | Taintedwisp | I suck at terraining RPGs |
| 23:48.23 | Taintedwisp | Anyhting without a set path/Paths I suck at |
| 23:48.26 | NGKrush | where r u guys from? |
| 23:48.46 | NGKrush | just saw the timestamp, thats why :P |
| 23:49.10 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skyMqXs1D5A Thats the terrain I make |
| 23:49.14 | Taintedwisp | Im from North Carolina |
| 23:49.28 | Zandose | toronto, canada |
| 23:49.30 | Taintedwisp | Timestamp? it Auto Adjust the timestamp to your location |
| 23:49.45 | Zandose | probably |
| 23:49.51 | A1win | the copy-pasted timestamp |
| 23:49.52 | Taintedwisp | Either that or Freenode is in EST |
| 23:49.58 | Taintedwisp | oh lol |
| 23:50.03 | A1win | 01:47:53 < Zandose> [19:46] <Taintedwisp> < Terrain editor first :P < makes me a map :) |
| 23:50.06 | A1win | that :P |
| 23:50.09 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:50.18 | Taintedwisp | [19:50] <A1win> 01:47:53 < Zandose> [19:46] <Taintedwisp> < Terrain editor first :P < makes me a map :) |
| 23:50.22 | Taintedwisp | trollol |
| 23:50.31 | NGKrush | haha |
| 23:50.34 | *** join/#sc2mapster Exaken (~kvirc@dhcp-077-251-207-054.chello.nl) |
| 23:50.41 | NGKrush | I'm from holland :) |
| 23:50.45 | Zandose | the crazys have come out of the closest |
| 23:50.52 | Taintedwisp | I wish canada had their own timestamps... So I would have to share time with them... |
| 23:51.02 | Taintedwisp | DAMN CANADIANS QUIT THROWING SNOWBALLS!!! |
| 23:51.29 | NGKrush | that character select screen looks amazing tanted |
| 23:51.52 | Taintedwisp | :P, Its got some upgrading to be done, but Vail-reth did that |
| 23:52.04 | Taintedwisp | By upgrading I mean if I can color Dialog slol |
| 23:52.34 | NGKrush | i just got into the sc2 editor this weekend tbh |
| 23:52.42 | NGKrush | trying to make a prototype of a game |
| 23:53.29 | NGKrush | i graduated with a detailed warcraft3 mod from school, but this sc2 editor is such a different thing all together |
| 23:54.05 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 23:54.11 | Taintedwisp | Its much more complex, but its fun |
| 23:54.27 | NGKrush | yeah, i'm having a lot of fun |
| 23:54.39 | Taintedwisp | HAHAH now to Coerce Soulcarverr to do this... to ALL my dialogs |
| 23:54.39 | Taintedwisp | [19:50] <A1win> 01:47:53 < Zandose> [19:46] <Taintedwisp> < Terrain editor first :P < makes me a map :) |
| 23:54.46 | NGKrush | surprised the modding scene isn't so big (or seems like it isn't) |
| 23:55.01 | A1win | it's too complex for a lot of people :x |
| 23:55.10 | A1win | like the editors of most modern games |
| 23:55.28 | Taintedwisp | NGK, you joined Sc2 Mapping, at a good time, OH DEAR GOD I WANNA FORGET THE POPULARITY SYSTEM!!!, but i just cant |
| 23:55.33 | Taintedwisp | It was sooo damn horrid |
| 23:55.34 | NGKrush | editors have to get more xomplex a the games are too right |
| 23:55.40 | Taintedwisp | Somebody hold me and tell me its going to be ok |
| 23:56.29 | Taintedwisp | It was Horrible, and annihilated Most of the communty. |
| 23:56.29 | NGKrush | pats Taintedwisp on the back |
| 23:56.38 | *** join/#sc2mapster Exaken (~kvirc@dhcp-077-251-207-054.chello.nl) |
| 23:56.42 | NGKrush | what happened? |
| 23:57.02 | A1win | I'm making a boardgame instead of mapping for SC2, this editor is even more complicated O_o it's known as reality |
| 23:57.17 | NGKrush | nice, what kind? |
| 23:57.27 | Taintedwisp | Imaging working on a project for a year, and then you publish it, its amazing, then you get a few people excited, and then you think your map is doing well, then you try to play a game, no one shows for 4 hours... |
| 23:57.32 | NGKrush | I was at spiel last week, a massive boardgame show in germany |
| 23:58.02 | A1win | a hack'n'slash dungeon crawler thing, similar to HeroQuest / Descent etc. but combat uses cards instead of dice |
| 23:58.10 | Taintedwisp | then You look at your map, it was at page 5, and even at page 2 nothing was played often |
| 23:58.22 | NGKrush | :((( |
| 23:58.29 | Taintedwisp | Squad TD and the rest of the gay page 1 ..... killed mapping |
| 23:58.44 | Taintedwisp | not the maps |
| 23:58.48 | Taintedwisp | Just the system itself |
| 23:58.54 | NGKrush | always 1 or 2 maps are gonna rule over the rest |
| 23:59.06 | A1win | I never cared about the popularity system, it wasn't a demotivator for my mapping o: |
| 23:59.09 | Taintedwisp | The system was based off Total Game hours. |
| 23:59.11 | NGKrush | it's hard to get noticed? |
| 23:59.18 | A1win | (maybe because I didn't realease anything during it :P) |
| 23:59.27 | Taintedwisp | Well it would have 50.50 for me, Now its fine |
| 23:59.31 | NGKrush | sounds cool though a1, your game |
| 23:59.36 | Taintedwisp | I have the open gmaes list, that needs improvements but works okay |
