| 00:00.04 | zlefin | are you in the effects area? |
| 00:00.14 | Taintedwisp | one sec |
| 00:02.58 | Taintedwisp | On the damage effect, I changed ranged to splash |
| 00:04.10 | zlefin | have you chagned the c_effectdamage_areaarray? |
| 00:04.29 | Taintedwisp | what? |
| 00:04.38 | Taintedwisp | I use the TTYchus one |
| 00:05.36 | zlefin | what TTYchus one? i don't see that, let me make sure we're looking at the same things |
| 00:06.24 | zlefin | are you currently at the EFFECT PsiBlastDamage? |
| 00:08.01 | zlefin | brb |
| 00:09.42 | zlefin | back |
| 00:11.19 | Taintedwisp | FieldTTychus03 - Queen Of Blades - Psi Blast (Damage) Editor: Editor PrefixTTychus03 - Queen Of Blades - |
| 00:11.33 | Fenix | i'm so happy. I'm not constantly stuck on stupid trigger or data. =D |
| 00:11.38 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 00:13.17 | zlefin | i don't see one of those tainted, we may be usign the editor under different display settings which si confusing things |
| 00:13.23 | zlefin | you're in the data editor, correct? |
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| 00:14.22 | Taintedwisp | yup |
| 00:14.40 | Fenix | hey tainted, on my side its not Tychus but Valerian...? |
| 00:15.01 | Fenix | TValerian03 - Queen Of Blades - Psi Blast (Damage) |
| 00:15.05 | zlefin | ok, do you have on the right side of the screen, a list of all the fields for the effect? |
| 00:15.45 | Taintedwisp | Valerian is there too haha |
| 00:15.47 | zlefin | and how long is that list? |
| 00:15.49 | Taintedwisp | Im sure they are the same though |
| 00:16.07 | Taintedwisp | There are only 2 effects, Damage, and Launch missle |
| 00:16.27 | Fenix | oh ok. |
| 00:16.29 | Fenix | i see both |
| 00:16.50 | zlefin | yeah, the'res those 2 effects; when you select the damage one, how long is the list of things you can change in that Effect? |
| 00:17.04 | Taintedwisp | yup |
| 00:17.23 | zlefin | an estimated number of lines will do |
| 00:17.31 | zlefin | for the list on the right side fo the screen |
| 00:17.34 | Taintedwisp | 45 fields |
| 00:17.35 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 00:17.43 | Fenix | Tainted, you know there are 2 Kerrigan? One is for (Char) on is for (Tyrador), the one for char is with Valerian, the one for Tyrador is Tychus |
| 00:17.50 | Taintedwisp | Yup |
| 00:17.55 | Fenix | ok. |
| 00:17.59 | Taintedwisp | Im just using the weapon from one. |
| 00:18.10 | Taintedwisp | The Valerian is in use elsewhere |
| 00:18.20 | Fenix | ah. |
| 00:19.04 | zlefin | is there an area preceded by "Search:" ? |
| 00:19.15 | zlefin | on the right side of the screen |
| 00:19.18 | Taintedwisp | yeah several of them |
| 00:19.29 | Taintedwisp | Search flags is the only one thats in blue |
| 00:19.57 | A1win | why are you guys simply just not taking a screenshot |
| 00:20.06 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 00:20.28 | zlefin | cuz im stupid |
| 00:20.28 | Fenix | i see 9 field in blue. |
| 00:20.40 | A1win | you sound like someone explaining driving instructions over phone instead of using google maps :x |
| 00:20.44 | Taintedwisp | http://i.imgur.com/jtTmc.png |
| 00:20.45 | Taintedwisp | There |
| 00:20.56 | Ahli | http://imageshack.us/a/img802/7294/screenshot2012102602165.jpg no there |
| 00:21.23 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKoErGCHLxc&feature=plcp WELL THERE EAT THAT!!! |
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| 00:21.52 | zlefin | what happens when you try to expand the Search: Area field? |
| 00:21.55 | Fenix | that game is mass lag |
| 00:22.13 | Fenix | its an empty search area |
| 00:22.29 | Zolden | Ahli, do cars kill civilians now yet? :) |
| 00:22.30 | Taintedwisp | So I should just add a search area then right? |
| 00:22.35 | Taintedwisp | With a radius of i guess 1 |
| 00:22.47 | Fenix | and maybe change weapon to splash? maybe. |
| 00:22.50 | Fenix | try it? |
| 00:23.25 | Taintedwisp | Give a black man some time |
| 00:23.32 | Taintedwisp | I gotta put some pimpin in it |
| 00:23.35 | zlefin | if you can see the radius field then yes, i'm not sure whether it's showing the radius field for you or not |
| 00:23.52 | Ahli | no... but I just suggested that the systems created in the trigger challenge should be used in a terrain challenge to create an awesome map |
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| 00:24.43 | zlefin | you definitely have your display setup differently, so i'd need to get mine to match it for optimal instructions |
| 00:25.01 | zlefin | but you should be able to get the Area part to expand somehow, bya dding numbers to it then expanding or something |
| 00:25.09 | zlefin | let me check how to adjust the field dispplay |
| 00:26.11 | Zolden | good idea |
| 00:26.13 | zlefin | ok, i siwthced off view raw data |
| 00:26.24 | Dogmai | morning all |
| 00:26.25 | Taintedwisp | The dearch area didnt do anything |
| 00:27.09 | Fenix | zlefin, basicly, we got all those fields.: http://i.imgur.com/2co35.png and this is the search area: http://i.imgur.com/i6ZNg.png |
| 00:27.11 | zlefin | ok, click on the Search: Area + on the far right side of the screen, and select modify value |
| 00:27.41 | zlefin | ah, so you've got the screen for adding search values for the area effects |
| 00:28.02 | zlefin | that lets you add the splash in |
| 00:28.17 | zlefin | we? are you right there with him Fenix? |
| 00:28.38 | Fenix | lol, no just folowing the same thing as him for fun and help, maybe. ;) |
| 00:29.14 | zlefin | well, i need to see if wisp is at that point or not |
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| 00:33.22 | zlefin | but that does look like the area that has all the splash characteristics |
| 00:34.51 | Fenix | yeah. maybe |
| 00:35.01 | Fenix | we'll see when he'll say something xD |
| 00:35.57 | zlefin | i'm gonna play elona shooter while waiting |
| 00:36.16 | Fenix | haha |
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| 00:45.20 | zlefin | welcome back wisp |
| 00:45.34 | Taintedwisp_ | haha |
| 00:46.06 | zlefin | not sure when you disced from |
| 00:46.26 | zlefin | were you able to expand the Search: area field? |
| 00:46.44 | Taintedwisp_ | I found the feild |
| 00:46.46 | Taintedwisp_ | lool |
| 00:47.41 | zlefin | modify value work on it? |
| 00:56.47 | DeadZergling | been awhile since I heard anything about Tofu, that still going strong Dogmai? |
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| 00:59.55 | Taintedwisp_ | hmm |
| 01:00.08 | Fenix | how can you do: Unit Group - Pick each unit in (Any units in (Entire map) owned by player 1 matching Excluded: Missile, Dead, Hidden, with at most Any Amount) and do (Actions) BUT: add something like: Except: Marine, SCV, Medic. So it would pick everything except those 3 units? |
| 01:01.07 | Saeris1 | you could put it in a loop to checks to see if the picked unit was one of those trpes and repeat until it finds one that passed the check |
| 01:01.16 | Saeris1 | like |
| 01:01.51 | Saeris1 | hmm, for pick each it'd be a little weird |
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| 01:02.43 | Saeris1 | sure there is some way you can do it with a repeat loop and an if then |
| 01:02.53 | Saeris1 | actually yea |
| 01:03.00 | Saeris1 | add all units to a group variable |
| 01:03.12 | Saeris1 | and remove all units of those types until none are left |
| 01:03.39 | Fenix | can you remove a unit type from a unit group? |
| 01:04.18 | Saeris1 | you can pick each unit in a group to check to see if it is of a type, and then if picked unit = this unit type, you can remove it |
| 01:04.35 | Saeris1 | something like that |
| 01:04.41 | Fenix | umum |
| 01:04.45 | Saeris1 | dunno, kinda bullshitting this off the top of my head |
| 01:05.25 | DeadZergling | it is probably the simplest approach, what Saeris is saying |
| 01:05.38 | DeadZergling | there isn't a marine/scv/medic filter, lol |
| 01:05.54 | Saeris1 | and maybe not a pick each, but a pick random and check to see how many units are left from your initial group to break out of the loop |
| 01:06.33 | Fenix | well, I think i'll do a different workaround that would work for my map. xD |
| 01:06.44 | zlefin | i'm not clear what you're looking for |
| 01:06.49 | Dogmai | It is alright |
| 01:06.58 | Dogmai | I just sold a wand on D3 for 250USD |
| 01:07.01 | zlefin | it looks like you have a matching Exclude, and then you want an except that you also want to exclude |
| 01:07.20 | Ahli | the f*ck? |
| 01:07.24 | zlefin | but it doesnt' look hard to get that set properly fenix |
| 01:07.35 | DeadZergling | lol, not a bad haul for 1 item |
| 01:07.41 | Saeris1 | so repeat until condition units in source group = 0, actions pick random unit from source group, if selected unit is Type X or Y or Z then remove from unit group, else, Add to pruned group and remove from source group |
| 01:07.44 | Fenix | i just want to check if player # is unused (at start of the game) than pick all his units and remove them. But player 1 has some units that will be gived to anotehr player if he leaves. So i must not kill those units at start of the game |
| 01:08.00 | Dogmai | Meh, there were similar items listed for 300-500m gold that werent selling |
| 01:08.11 | Dogmai | I think one on Auction went for around 450 |
| 01:08.16 | Dogmai | So I am happy with 250USD |
| 01:08.21 | Saeris1 | the above should do it fenix |
| 01:08.23 | Ahli | who the hell spends 250$ for a single item?... |
| 01:08.32 | Dogmai | Which equates to roughly 500-650m |
| 01:08.33 | Fenix | so basicly i would simply set those units to like neutral player, and at start of the game remove the units. If player one is playing then give it to him if not give to P2. |
| 01:08.34 | Fenix | etc |
| 01:08.35 | Taintedwisp_ | a loser |
| 01:08.36 | Taintedwisp_ | lol |
| 01:08.38 | Dogmai | well it was nearly perfect |
| 01:08.43 | Dogmai | like for a wizard |
| 01:08.47 | Dogmai | you couldnt get a better wand |
| 01:09.03 | Dogmai | demon hunters are worst |
| 01:09.04 | Saeris1 | don't even need to set them to a player really |
| 01:09.12 | DeadZergling | I dunno tainted |
| 01:09.15 | Dogmai | they've been paying $1000USD per bow |
| 01:09.25 | DeadZergling | who is the bigger loser, the one who spends 250 to get exactly what they want |
| 01:09.35 | DeadZergling | or the one who has enough free time to farm it forever |
| 01:09.41 | Dogmai | the farmer is stupid |
| 01:09.43 | zlefin | hmm, let me look through the triggers a bit |
| 01:09.50 | Saeris1 | you just have 2 local variables, source group and pruned group, add all units from player X to source group, then use the repeat loop to prune that group, and you're left with all the units you want in the Pruned group variable |
| 01:09.50 | Dogmai | I play at night to relax, I might only play for an hour or two |
| 01:09.53 | Dogmai | I don't do it as a job |
| 01:10.07 | Dogmai | So having an item pay for the game is a bonus |
| 01:10.12 | Fenix | aw come on, stop talking about D3 in sc2 channel hahaha |
| 01:10.21 | Dogmai | For me, if I wanted to play D3 I would go work in a supermarkte |
| 01:10.27 | Dogmai | Then i would be farming 50m per hour |
| 01:10.37 | Taintedwisp_ | lol |
| 01:10.50 | Saeris1 | and if you wanted to do this fro each player, simply do a Pick Each Player and use arrays with Picked Player to create these variables for each player |
| 01:11.36 | Fenix | ill be ok Sae, ty. |
| 01:11.39 | DeadZergling | yea, recall making a few grand off everquest back when it was legal, lol |
| 01:11.58 | Saeris1 | np |
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| 01:13.57 | DeadZergling | was just curious anyways, had heard a lot about it in alpha/beta or whatever not too long ago, then just heard absolutely nothing about it for awhile |
| 01:14.22 | Dogmai | Yeah, been working |
| 01:14.34 | Dogmai | We had a closed beta, and Blizz came along |
| 01:14.48 | Dogmai | Between them and a few others, we got some really good feedback |
| 01:14.52 | Dogmai | Its just implementing those changes |
| 01:15.12 | DeadZergling | amazing how useful feedback from outsiders can be huh? |
| 01:15.16 | Fenix | blizz participate directly into some custom maps? |
| 01:15.47 | Dogmai | Well, the things were minor but I appreciate it a lot anyways, because it shows that they care about the project |
| 01:15.47 | DeadZergling | well, by outsiders I just mean, people who haven't been working on the map |
| 01:15.54 | Dogmai | Indeed, just 1 Fenix, Tofu |
| 01:15.58 | Dogmai | Yea |
| 01:16.01 | Dogmai | I got you |
| 01:16.15 | Dogmai | When you work on a project so long you can over look things |
| 01:16.21 | DeadZergling | like being informed all my units are too small |
| 01:16.24 | Dogmai | It is nice having a fresh source of feedback |
| 01:16.29 | DeadZergling | due to the fact i play on 1920 x 1080 mode |
| 01:16.34 | DeadZergling | whoops, lol |
| 01:16.41 | Fenix | haha |
| 01:16.51 | Dogmai | Well the Tofu UI will be small for some |
| 01:17.01 | Dogmai | Because it has been designed for 2560x1440 |
| 01:17.06 | Fenix | wow |
| 01:17.14 | Fenix | it should be designed for 1024x1024 |
| 01:17.16 | Dogmai | But it is not that much smaller than Sc2's text styles |
| 01:17.16 | DeadZergling | that what you play on dogmai? |
| 01:17.19 | Fenix | since its the minimum |
| 01:17.23 | Fenix | eh |
| 01:17.27 | Ahli | well.. does it work on 4x3 dimension? |
| 01:17.31 | Fenix | not 1024x1024 but.. any way |
| 01:17.38 | Dogmai | No ... I play on 5120x1440 |
| 01:17.40 | Fenix | should be for the minimum reso |
| 01:17.46 | DeadZergling | you mean 1280 x 960 fenix? lol |
| 01:17.48 | Dogmai | >:) |
| 01:17.53 | Fenix | man your screen is what 180°? |
| 01:17.57 | Ahli | 1024x768 |
| 01:18.04 | Dogmai | It was designed to fit a 4x3 screen |
| 01:18.15 | Dogmai | But I meant in terms of scale |
| 01:18.18 | Ahli | or even windowed as 800x600 |
| 01:18.37 | DeadZergling | 5120 x 1440, hrrrmm, curious how you achieve that one dogmai, lol |
| 01:18.40 | Fenix | you can play in 800x600? |
| 01:18.42 | Ahli | or is it 1024x768 in windowed? |
| 01:18.49 | Dogmai | 2560x1440 x2 |
| 01:18.52 | Dogmai | >>>>>>>> |
| 01:18.53 | Fenix | 800x600 is not supported? not sure |
| 01:19.06 | Ahli | oh, it's 1024x768 windowed :S my bad |
| 01:19.09 | Fenix | anyway this is too small |
| 01:19.11 | Fenix | xD |
| 01:19.17 | Fenix | 800x600 is old comp |
| 01:19.34 | Ahli | yeah... win98 times :D |
| 01:19.39 | Ahli | or 95 |
| 01:19.55 | DeadZergling | lot more blue screens and crashes |
| 01:19.58 | DeadZergling | if 95 times |
| 01:20.02 | Fenix | =D i got a Pentium 1 233Mhz =D |
| 01:20.04 | Fenix | its awesome |
| 01:20.19 | Fenix | i made it crash like more than a hundred times caus of the starcraft editor |
| 01:20.27 | DeadZergling | I just got a 3.1 gig HD for 300 $, what a steal! |
| 01:20.31 | Ahli | had one with 100mhz... had a button to lower it to 10hz |
| 01:20.35 | Ahli | 10mhz |
| 01:20.40 | Fenix | lol |
| 01:20.42 | DeadZergling | you play at a computer there dogmai, or a cinema, lol |
| 01:20.49 | Dogmai | Computer |
| 01:20.52 | Ahli | got a C64 at home, too >_> |
| 01:21.03 | Dogmai | I once had 10240x1440 |
| 01:21.09 | Dogmai | Too many screens |
| 01:21.12 | Fenix | lol |
| 01:21.15 | Dogmai | My desk is 10foot long |
| 01:21.17 | Dogmai | Screens didnt fit |
| 01:21.21 | Dogmai | Or barely fit* |
| 01:21.22 | Fenix | lolll |
| 01:21.23 | Ahli | :D |
| 01:21.35 | Dogmai | I kept sending monitors back to Dell |
| 01:21.43 | DeadZergling | yea, I found 4 monitors to be too much for me |
| 01:21.43 | Ahli | why did you buy so many? |
| 01:21.46 | Dogmai | And they kept sending me new ones |
| 01:21.51 | Dogmai | Before I could send them back |
| 01:21.55 | Dogmai | So at the peak I had 4 |
| 01:21.55 | Fenix | lol.. |
| 01:21.59 | Ahli | :D |
| 01:22.12 | Dogmai | They were sending me refurbished units |
| 01:22.17 | Dogmai | And I chucked the shits |
| 01:22.21 | Dogmai | As you do, dealing with Dell |
| 01:22.25 | Dogmai | I wanted brand new |
| 01:22.34 | Dogmai | So I escalted it up to the Australian manager |
| 01:22.46 | Dogmai | Who got me a brand new screen no questions asked |
| 01:22.54 | Ahli | :) |
| 01:23.04 | Ahli | dogmai fightinnn |
| 01:23.10 | Dogmai | But it was because I had 2 of them |
| 01:23.17 | Dogmai | They had to be from the same batch |
| 01:23.33 | Dogmai | Otherwise they would have different contrast/tints etc |
| 01:23.33 | Saeris1 | having a new set of monitors would be nice. got some cheap 23in 1920x1080's atm |
| 01:23.50 | DeadZergling | out of curiosity what size monitor you using to support 2560 x 1440 ? |
| 01:23.51 | Fenix | what number is the neutral player? 0? |
| 01:23.57 | Ahli | yes |
| 01:24.03 | Dogmai | I have 2x 27" IPS screens |
| 01:24.07 | Dogmai | I don't like 30 |
| 01:24.17 | Dogmai | The pixel density is too low |
| 01:24.54 | Ahli | well... I bought me my first widescreen monitor 8 months ago :D |
| 01:25.00 | Dogmai | Only problem is I can't work on anything smaller |
| 01:25.03 | Dogmai | It drives me insane |
| 01:25.05 | DeadZergling | I see, lol, I remember not so long ago, maybe 10 years back |
| 01:25.10 | Dogmai | Even working on a laptop annoys me |
| 01:25.12 | DeadZergling | being amazed at the size of a 17 " monitor... |
| 01:25.18 | Dogmai | Because you become so use to having so much real estate |
| 01:25.32 | DeadZergling | totally understandable dogmai. |
| 01:25.42 | DeadZergling | I'm grumpy w/ anything less than 3 monitors, lol |
| 01:25.52 | Dogmai | my dad bought one of the first flatscreen 21" monitors for 1 grand |
| 01:25.59 | Dogmai | 3 years later they were selling for like 300 |
| 01:26.00 | Dogmai | -_- |
| 01:26.06 | Ahli | I guess it's like a desk... you start using everything of it... doesn't matter how big it is |
| 01:26.11 | Dogmai | not LCD, flatscreen CRD |
| 01:26.36 | Dogmai | The only problem with my screens, is that they cook |
| 01:26.44 | Dogmai | Especially if it hits 30*C+ here |
| 01:26.50 | Dogmai | In summer, 120*F is not uncommon |
| 01:27.02 | Dogmai | So my GPU runs at 95*C |
| 01:27.07 | DeadZergling | yea, well I never worry about turning the heater on in my room |
| 01:27.09 | Dogmai | Even with Aircon on |
| 01:27.10 | DeadZergling | that's for sure... |
| 01:27.25 | Dogmai | Like a few more degrees and its gonna start melting -_- |
| 01:27.31 | DeadZergling | HDTV for a monitor keeps everything warm, lol |
| 01:27.35 | Ahli | my laptop works with that temp, too :S |
| 01:27.46 | Dogmai | ATM my GPU is 71*C idle |
| 01:28.02 | DeadZergling | that doesn't sound good |
| 01:28.15 | Dogmai | It never drops ... it is just not cool enough here |
| 01:28.25 | Dogmai | If it goes it goes |
| 01:28.31 | Dogmai | And I get a new GPU |
| 01:28.32 | Ahli | if I have it on my lap and do sc2 things. |
| 01:29.09 | Fenix | mine is at ~60°C with the editor and sc2 open xD |
| 01:29.19 | Ahli | me 2 |
| 01:29.36 | Dogmai | I have the editor |
| 01:29.40 | Dogmai | But its not under load |
| 01:29.45 | Dogmai | Cause I aint looking at it o_O |
| 01:29.56 | Dogmai | If you really wanna heat it up you load up Minecraft |
| 01:30.04 | Fenix | but i manually set the fan speed to maximum caus somehow it was going going maximum and sometimes it was overheating when playing -_- |
| 01:30.23 | Fenix | it was not going* |
| 01:30.26 | Ahli | if you look at the editor... cpu goes 100% :S |
| 01:30.33 | Ahli | at least 1 core |
| 01:31.31 | Fenix | well, the editor can only take 50% of my cpu so... its not used at 100% but it could be haha |
| 01:32.04 | Dogmai | Wanna know a secret |
| 01:32.11 | Dogmai | Sometimes I run out of ram o_O |
| 01:32.18 | Dogmai | Cause I don't have a paging file |
| 01:32.35 | Dogmai | Sc2 + D3 + Sc2 Editor + Photoshop is enough to max me out |
| 01:32.58 | Fenix | lol... |
| 01:33.15 | Fenix | u know what, i got 2 Go of ram so... yeah. |
| 01:33.33 | Fenix | thats minimum to play sc2 |
| 01:33.51 | Fenix | and the fun thing is, it started to do some blue screen caus of the ram -_- |
| 01:34.10 | Fenix | 0x0000008E |
| 01:34.58 | Ahli | hmm, I didn't try to work without pagefile on my desktop... trying now... |
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| 01:36.42 | Fenix | can you "change owner" of a specefic unit on the map without passing by pick eatch unit in blabla matching condition at region..... ? |
| 01:37.18 | Fenix | nvm |
| 01:37.20 | Fenix | im stupid. |
| 01:41.32 | DeadZergling | I've found that SC2 + SC2 Editor + Fraps recording SC2 |
| 01:41.36 | DeadZergling | maxes me out pretty good |
| 01:41.46 | Fenix | haha |
| 01:43.14 | DeadZergling | it certainly made getting demo videos of my project made a difficult process, lol |
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| 01:44.29 | DeadZergling | can't blame my comp too much though |
| 01:44.38 | DeadZergling | damn fraps taking 15 gigs to record 5 or 6 minutes, lol |
| 01:46.49 | DeadZergling | anywho, time for me to drive home and such |
| 01:46.55 | DeadZergling | take it easy |
| 01:47.09 | Fenix | yeah fraps takes lots of space ;) |
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| 01:49.57 | Fenix | hate the starcraft 2 mechanics where if a unit can't reach his attacker caus of another unit/building, it will attack that building instead even if it has lower priority |
| 01:56.09 | Fenix | hate that mines aren't count as units |
| 01:59.33 | Fenix | hate his slow computer |
| 02:00.02 | zlefin | hmm, was just playing some lol for fun, i think kog's ult damage is bugged |
| 02:03.54 | Fenix | very hate bugs issued from the campaign dependency |
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| 02:12.18 | Fenix | does it makes a lag if an event happends massively in a short time but fail conditions? |
| 02:18.51 | Ahli | oh damned, I need the pagefile to test maps from the editor ^^ |
| 02:27.57 | Fenix | how long Fungal Growth is supposed to last? |
| 02:31.23 | Ahli | http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Fungal_Growth |
| 02:35.55 | Fenix | why is my Fungal doing 36 damage over 8 sec? |
| 02:36.31 | Fenix | i have the campaign dependency on and i feel like it's changing alot of things... |
| 02:38.28 | Fenix | and my fungal had to be cast on a unit and not only on the ground |
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| 02:52.01 | Zandose | hi |
| 02:54.13 | Fenix | yo |
| 03:12.18 | Fenix | anyone still here? |
| 03:14.13 | Fenix | I wonder how works the Movement push... I'd like that all my units cannot push eatch other. But, I think this mechanics is not really possible. You cannot push a unit that has a higher Movement push value, but you can push another unit with the same value. I would like to have all units on the same value, but unable to push eatch other |
| 03:22.06 | Fenix | anyone know? |
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| 03:43.35 | Zandose | I'm trying to see the code used for a library functions but it blank. How do I see it? |
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| 03:57.59 | Ahli | if they are action definitions or functions, check the custom script section in them |
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| 04:10.14 | Fenix | I wonder how works the Movement push... I'd like that all my units cannot push eatch other. But, I think this mechanics is not really possible. You cannot push a unit that has a higher Movement push value, but you can push another unit with the same value. I would like to have all units on the same value, but unable to push eatch other |
| 04:11.22 | Fenix | for example the starcraft 1 units couldn't push any other units like if they were all on Hold |
| 04:13.50 | Fenix | Ahli, do you have any idea? |
| 04:21.35 | Ahli | hmm, is it possible to set that as a alliance property with yourself maybe? |
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| 05:25.57 | Dogmai | Alright, updated some code in Tofu |
| 05:26.11 | Dogmai | Now, the leaderboard reflects the portraitboard, as does the scoreboard |
| 05:26.27 | Dogmai | Meaning, if you are Red Team, your team and score will appear on the left hand side of the screen |
| 05:27.23 | Dogmai | I forget who suggested that, but thanks if you're here |
| 05:27.29 | Dogmai | Works a treat |
| 05:31.07 | Fenix | ok so i'm in a pathing problem and before i get an headache, I'll go sleep. Good night all |
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| 06:04.15 | hobbidude | sounds like my kind of thinking but i don't think it was me lol |
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| 06:17.42 | ckSynergy | hey |
| 06:17.56 | ckSynergy | anyone here got the UI <Shortcut> code working? |
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| 09:14.07 | harl | wuff |
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| 11:24.27 | Dogmai | 1 more bug |
| 11:24.33 | Dogmai | and tofu is ready for its next closed beta |
| 11:24.39 | Dogmai | the very last one we will have |
| 11:24.44 | Dogmai | before release |
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| 11:33.25 | grim002 | ... |
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| 12:46.10 | Zolden | lol, recaptcha like a spell |
| 12:46.13 | Zolden | Notre omastre |
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| 14:18.10 | Blizz-Deletarius | morning |
| 14:18.16 | Dustin|Work | Morning |
| 14:18.30 | TheSkunk__ | Morning delete :) |
| 14:18.51 | Dustin|Work | lol a bird just ran into my office window |
| 14:19.16 | Ahli | I'm breaking the terrain module |
| 14:19.26 | Ahli | it's gray now... |
| 14:19.27 | Dustin|Work | Stop breaking shit! |
| 14:20.36 | Zolden | a bird? lucky! snowstorm ran into mine, all birds must be dead |
| 14:20.56 | Blizz-Deletarius | murder ALL the things with weather |
| 14:21.04 | TheSkunk__ | Snow? :O |
| 14:21.05 | Dustin|Work | lol |
| 14:21.17 | Ahli | hmm, right... I need to implement weather, too |
| 14:21.18 | Dustin|Work | It's almost cold enough here to snow |
| 14:21.29 | TheSkunk__ | its above 50 degrees here |
| 14:21.29 | Blizz-Deletarius | are you on the east coast? |
| 14:21.35 | Dustin|Work | Kansas |
| 14:21.40 | Blizz-Deletarius | 63* here |
| 14:21.43 | Zolden | lol, Ahli, u're obsessed, I like it |
| 14:21.45 | Blizz-Deletarius | I'm ok with that |
| 14:21.48 | Dustin|Work | 36 here :( |
| 14:21.55 | Blizz-Deletarius | f that s |
| 14:21.59 | Dustin|Work | Yeah it blows |
| 14:26.49 | zlefin | mornin |
| 14:26.59 | Dustin|Work | hi |
| 14:28.22 | duckies | yes! |
| 14:28.24 | duckies | snow! |
| 14:28.37 | duckies | happiest day in the entire month ♥ |
| 14:29.13 | TheSkunk__ | lol |
| 14:29.30 | TheSkunk__ | I get more then enough snow most years |
| 14:30.04 | duckies | there can never be enough snow :3 |
| 14:31.53 | TheSkunk__ | There can be when you have to shovel an over 100 square foot driveway by hand |
| 14:32.41 | TheSkunk__ | But really, I don't dislike snow so much as winter.. its so long, so dark, so bleak |
| 14:33.00 | TheSkunk__ | Ofc depending on where you live thats not always the case |
| 14:33.10 | duckies | Exactly the type of mood I enjoy |
| 14:33.23 | TheSkunk__ | ._. |
| 14:33.55 | duckies | for some reason it fills me with joy |
| 14:34.27 | duckies | summer is cool too, but winter has a special place in my heart |
| 14:34.34 | TheSkunk__ | Don't get me wrong, the FIRST couple of months of winter (esp fresh snow) is cool.. |
| 14:35.39 | duckies | when it gets realy cool is when it drops to -30 and roads start to crack |
| 14:35.50 | duckies | I just love the freezing mood =D |
| 14:36.32 | TheSkunk__ | Yeah |
| 14:36.46 | TheSkunk__ | I happen to live in a very hilly place, and they don't take good care of the roads |
| 14:37.08 | TheSkunk__ | its a death trap, and its actually much worse when it is warmer and slick (black ice) then if it just stays cold |
| 14:37.41 | TheSkunk__ | Often see people sliding past their houses if they are on the side of a hill like we are |
| 14:37.57 | duckies | ah, that can be dangerous |
| 14:38.26 | TheSkunk__ | the truck (spreading dirt -- not salt) had to back up the hill |
| 14:38.45 | duckies | welI got too excited, I'll go for a walk, the first day of snow is way too awesome to just sit at home, though I must return to watch some bomber games. aah the choices >.< |
| 14:39.23 | TheSkunk__ | Winter was made for people like you ducky :P |
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| 14:41.52 | TheSkunk__ | You talk about snow, and I'm looking at getting the remains of a hurricane in the coming week =X |
| 14:57.49 | TheSkunk__ | Also, what do you think of adding a "veiw all posts by this poster" button? |
| 14:58.05 | TheSkunk__ | Like, if you clicked on rocks name it would bring you to his post history or something |
| 14:58.30 | TheSkunk__ | -.- wrong chat, sorry |
| 14:58.38 | Dustin|Work | I like it |
| 14:58.46 | Dustin|Work | Go ahead and impilment that skunk |
| 14:58.49 | TheSkunk__ | lol |
| 14:59.26 | Dogmai | night all |
| 14:59.35 | Dustin|Work | Night? It's morning :P |
| 14:59.47 | Dustin|Work | Some people just can't tell time. |
| 15:01.28 | Zolden | It's night in Asia |
| 15:02.04 | Dustin|Work | Dogmai's asian!? |
| 15:02.13 | Zolden | looks like |
| 15:02.17 | Blizz-Deletarius | aus |
| 15:02.18 | Zolden | or australian |
| 15:02.23 | Dustin|Work | Ahh |
| 15:02.30 | Dustin|Work | Yeah he seems like an aussie |
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| 15:06.57 | Taintedwisp | How is everyone today? |
| 15:07.17 | TheSkunk__ | goodish |
| 15:07.18 | TheSkunk__ | :D |
| 15:07.23 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 15:07.33 | Taintedwisp | everytime you type goodish i read goldfish |
| 15:07.34 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 15:07.58 | TheSkunk__ | Its hard to be enthusiastic when you are doing math =) |
| 15:08.04 | Taintedwisp | Ahh |
| 15:08.09 | Taintedwisp | What kind of math are you doing? |
| 15:08.17 | Taintedwisp | Algebratic? |
| 15:08.26 | TheSkunk__ | "Advanced Mathematics" is what they call it |
| 15:08.30 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 15:08.32 | TheSkunk__ | but yeah, its probably closest to that |
| 15:08.36 | Taintedwisp | ahh |
| 15:08.59 | Taintedwisp | if you need any help with any of it post it on here, I havent been to college yet, but I did Ace all honors Maths |
| 15:11.27 | Dustin|Work | Math is awesome |
| 15:11.51 | Dustin|Work | I didn't care for it in highschool because I saw no application for it, now I love it. |
| 15:12.18 | Taintedwisp | lol I hated it always |
| 15:12.22 | TheSkunk__ | Eh. Theres nothing wrong with it, but I'm bad at it and it doesn't capture my interest |
| 15:12.24 | Taintedwisp | but I was also always really good at it |
| 15:13.37 | Taintedwisp | I hated it though because everytime I thought i could assume something Example: if a =b and b =c then a must equal c.... The teacher would give some new BS information, and I would have to restart my thinking... |
| 15:15.14 | grim002 | If you want to be a good mapper you should learn vector math and trig :) |
| 15:16.09 | Dustin|Work | Vector math is so usefull |
| 15:18.18 | Taintedwisp | Vector math aye? |
| 15:18.43 | Taintedwisp | ah i see |
| 15:18.59 | Taintedwisp | I remember doing something on this briefly in school |
| 15:19.06 | Taintedwisp | I guess i should learn it |
| 15:21.23 | grim002 | vector math is great if you want to creae any kind of projectile or movement based abilities or systems in your map |
| 15:22.03 | Taintedwisp | Ah |
| 15:22.19 | Zolden | it's even good if you try to use explicit rotation sOp |
| 15:23.06 | grim002 | and you need trig for understanding how to calculate angles between things |
| 15:33.38 | Taintedwisp | hmm Should I map some or not... |
| 15:34.30 | Taintedwisp | you know what... |
| 15:34.32 | Taintedwisp | Yes |
| 15:37.40 | Taintedwisp | Yo Vailreth you there? |
| 15:38.02 | Taintedwisp | brb |
| 15:38.07 | Taintedwisp | My drop box is screwing up |
| 15:39.18 | Taintedwisp | Dropbox site isnt working for me either |
| 15:39.51 | Taintedwisp | it connects and then disconnects |
| 15:43.18 | Ahli | hmm, how is the monorail model intended to move on its tracks? |
| 15:44.59 | Dustin|Work | Trickery |
| 15:47.39 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=AEZjzsnPhnw#t=36s |
| 15:48.57 | Ahli | well, I think it should move directly on the tracks, but the track holders would collide with the train |
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| 16:25.55 | hobbidude | hey guys whats the unit flag again to allow you to set its rotation just by double clicking on it? |
| 16:26.17 | hobbidude | fuck found it srry |
| 16:27.05 | A1win | you can also set rotation by selecting it and then ctrl-lft clicking in the direction you want it to face |
| 16:27.32 | A1win | *left |
| 16:28.43 | Blizz-Deletarius | or |
| 16:28.51 | Blizz-Deletarius | pressing * or / on the num pad |
| 16:28.58 | Blizz-Deletarius | will rotate it 90* |
| 16:30.05 | Ahli | unit must have turnable flag |
| 16:30.27 | Ahli | is there a unit type where I can define an initial height? |
| 16:30.38 | Ahli | of the placed unit instance |
| 16:30.47 | Blizz-Deletarius | I *think* so |
| 16:30.48 | Blizz-Deletarius | sec |
| 16:30.57 | Taintedwisp | Hey deletarius whats up |
| 16:31.31 | Blizz-Deletarius | is it just footprint's sake or? |
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| 16:31.47 | Blizz-Deletarius | hey guy |
| 16:32.02 | Ahli | it's for placing monorails in different heights |
| 16:32.32 | A1win | at least there are hotkeys to change the height afterwards |
| 16:32.46 | hobbidude | hey ahli |
| 16:32.50 | hobbidude | hows the map going? |
| 16:32.57 | Ahli | working on monorails |
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| 16:33.09 | Ahli | whose model can't fit onto the rails |
| 16:33.17 | Blizz-Deletarius | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEZjzsnPhnw |
| 16:33.22 | Blizz-Deletarius | that video is appropriate |
| 16:38.38 | Dustin|Work | Hmm |
| 16:38.58 | ckSynergy | morning |
| 16:39.03 | Dustin|Work | Mornin |
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| 16:40.00 | ckSynergy | Blizz-Deletarius: Can you tell me if <Shortcut> xml tags in UI files is working or not, and if so, what restrictions are there? |
| 16:40.16 | Blizz-Deletarius | I can ask |
| 16:41.27 | ckSynergy | Id appreciate it :) |
| 16:42.16 | ckSynergy | here's a snippet of what I have, however it's not working, which is why I ask |
| 16:42.32 | ckSynergy | <Frame type="CommandButton" name="Slot01"><Shortcut val="@UI/Hotkey/C00B01"/></Frame> |
| 16:44.43 | Blizz-Deletarius | Shortcut values are references to hotkeys defined in GameHotkeys.txt, pressing the hotkey will activate the button |
| 16:44.50 | Blizz-Deletarius | there's a lot of examples in the Core layout files |
| 16:49.31 | TheSkunk__ | This song randomly popped into my head: http://youtu.be/L64c5vT3NBw o.0 |
| 16:51.01 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 16:51.26 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EApnhO2OIrw That just popped into my head when I listened to that |
| 16:51.41 | Taintedwisp | dont ask why.. |
| 16:51.41 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 16:51.57 | TheSkunk__ | :P |
| 16:52.38 | hobbidude | is there any condition to check if an integer/real is a prime number? |
| 16:52.43 | hobbidude | or odd works too |
| 16:54.33 | hobbidude | or would i have to try find the reminder after dividing by 2 or something |
| 16:55.36 | ckSynergy | Blizz-Deletarius: I have my GameHotkeys.txt setup with hotkeys, however I cannot activate the buttons |
| 16:55.45 | ckSynergy | They just dont fire |
| 16:55.57 | ckSynergy | one second while I pull up my hotstrings |
| 16:56.42 | ckSynergy | UI/Hotkey/C00B01=NumPad1 |
| 16:56.46 | ckSynergy | thats an example one |
| 16:56.53 | ckSynergy | its appended at the end of the file |
| 16:58.46 | Blizz-Deletarius | afk for 30ish |
| 16:58.50 | ckSynergy | note: I also tried <Shortcut val="@UI/C1Slot00"/> |
| 16:58.52 | ckSynergy | alrighty |
| 16:59.20 | SnowDuck | I just decided to try a map from "newest" tab, been waiting in lobby for 10 minutes now, not a single soul came in. I'm now at the bottom of open games list. It's as if popularity sort never went away =D /rant |
| 17:00.05 | ckSynergy | yea popularity system is crap |
| 17:00.26 | ckSynergy | To be more elaborte: it doesnt reset frequently enough |
| 17:00.32 | ckSynergy | *to elaborate |
| 17:00.54 | ckSynergy | and its too favored toward game time hours |
| 17:01.11 | ckSynergy | You play a map for an hour, and within another hour it loses that time |
| 17:01.43 | ckSynergy | but popular games keep getting played, and the time keeps adding up till it has 10,000 hours played. How is a map, that loses its "time played" in under an hour, supposed to compete with that |
| 17:02.16 | SnowDuck | except now, it's not populariy list, it's whatever on arcade spotlight that gets played |
| 17:02.24 | ckSynergy | oh, and I should add that for popular maps, that kind of time adds up over about 3-4 hours |
| 17:03.32 | Taintedwisp | Windows 8, its as bad as when they changed the sugar to whatever it is now in Mountain dew... and you wonder why the throw backs tasted sooo delicious... lol |
| 17:07.12 | Vailreth | it is the devil |
| 17:07.23 | Vailreth | oh no wait that is the Wii U |
| 17:07.58 | Taintedwisp | lol hey vail hows it goin? |
| 17:08.00 | Dustin|Work | Yeah fuck windows 8 |
| 17:08.07 | Vailreth | i swear that controller wants to devour my soul |
| 17:08.16 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 17:08.39 | Taintedwisp | Yo Vailreth, Sarah Kerrigan hero is pretty much complete only actors are needed. |
| 17:08.48 | Vailreth | sweet |
| 17:08.52 | ckSynergy | yall dont like windows 8? |
| 17:09.02 | Taintedwisp | Workin on Fenix Reborn right now |
| 17:09.09 | Taintedwisp | No I dont want a phone on my desktop |
| 17:09.12 | Dustin|Work | ^ |
| 17:09.20 | Taintedwisp | Phones have that shitty OS because its all they can handle |
| 17:09.28 | ckSynergy | lmao |
| 17:09.28 | Taintedwisp | I have a mouse and keyboard. give me something bette |
| 17:09.39 | ckSynergy | there are phones out now that are faster than the laptop im on |
| 17:09.39 | Dustin|Work | Every other windows release sucks |
| 17:09.40 | Vailreth | i like windows 8 like i like being pierced in important places .... |
| 17:09.46 | Taintedwisp | I feel bad for you |
| 17:09.48 | ckSynergy | Dustin: you and me both know it |
| 17:09.50 | TheSkunk__ | Yeah, but you don't have to use that; you can just use the interface that looks identical to windows 7.. |
| 17:09.59 | Dustin|Work | 98 good, me sucksed, xp was good, visa sucked, windows 7 is good, 8 sucks |
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| 17:10.15 | Taintedwisp | i'm good, hell that would mean i would be getting Windows 8 just to scap everything but windows 7... |
| 17:10.16 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 17:10.17 | ckSynergy | 9 will be good |
| 17:10.19 | Vailreth | from what ive heard the so called interface is really just an apo |
| 17:10.20 | ckSynergy | hopefully |
| 17:10.21 | ckSynergy | lol |
| 17:10.22 | Vailreth | ap* |
| 17:10.33 | ckSynergy | you know, windows should just be given out free every other release |
| 17:10.45 | ckSynergy | instead of charging people $100 to beta test their software |
| 17:10.48 | Taintedwisp | 95 was good, 98 was okay but unneeded, me Sucked, 2000 Sucked, NT sucked, Xp was good, Vista was okay but wonkey, Win 7 was great |
| 17:11.07 | Dustin|Work | Windows 98 SE |
| 17:11.12 | Dustin|Work | Was my FAV os for along time |
| 17:11.13 | ckSynergy | Win 7 FTW |
| 17:11.24 | ckSynergy | Although, I like what they did with the start menu |
| 17:11.27 | Dustin|Work | Yeah I love 7 |
| 17:11.27 | Vailreth | i had about a week of no borderlans where i wrote and played firefall |
| 17:11.29 | Taintedwisp | yeah I suppose.. Though win 98 in general was just windows 95 repackaged |
| 17:11.37 | ckSynergy | I'm in favor of tiny buttons |
| 17:11.41 | Dustin|Work | Firefall is sweet |
| 17:11.45 | ckSynergy | i.e. hidden start menu |
| 17:11.53 | Taintedwisp | Sounds like a terrible week vailreth |
| 17:12.04 | Taintedwisp | i dunno what firefall is |
| 17:12.11 | Dustin|Work | TPS MMO |
| 17:12.16 | Dustin|Work | well TPS/FPS |
| 17:12.21 | Vailreth | its a new mmo fps still in closed beta ... |
| 17:13.00 | Vailreth | i need to work on my skills and tactics and go on more Chosen hunts |
| 17:13.06 | Taintedwisp | and appearently FTP |
| 17:13.11 | Taintedwisp | F2P |
| 17:13.18 | Vailreth | yeah. |
| 17:13.23 | Taintedwisp | Cool |
| 17:13.39 | Dustin|Work | I might have some more invites |
| 17:13.41 | Taintedwisp | I think F2P is going to wipe out P2P |
| 17:13.41 | Dustin|Work | LEt me check |
| 17:13.51 | Taintedwisp | Idont have a good enough computer |
| 17:13.53 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 17:13.55 | Vailreth | you need a decent system though i am running it on like mid-low and i only get 22 fps |
| 17:14.22 | Vailreth | when im lucky |
| 17:14.27 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 17:14.30 | Taintedwisp | I have a shit system |
| 17:15.02 | Vailreth | you have a laptop thats understandable, i have a five nearly six year old desktop |
| 17:15.12 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 17:15.23 | Taintedwisp | its a going on 2 year old laptop |
| 17:15.27 | Taintedwisp | So its not new or anything |
| 17:15.32 | Ahli | hmmm, I've no idea what I'm really doing when I modify site operation's forward vector... :S but I got the rotation I want |
| 17:15.33 | Vailreth | but hey the latest borderlands 2 patch fixed my issues and increased preformance overall |
| 17:16.02 | Taintedwisp | Ahli it sounds like you need help from kueken... |
| 17:16.02 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 17:18.58 | Ahli | well I got it correct ingame... now I would like to update the terrain module with it ^^ |
| 17:19.11 | Ahli | had to place the units again |
| 17:19.16 | Taintedwisp | qhh |
| 17:20.03 | Taintedwisp | Trying to think about how I want to go about doing this |
| 17:20.31 | Taintedwisp | I think I may need a search area, but Im not sure.. hmmm |
| 17:21.05 | Ahli | ok, it can drive on 2 tracks atm... both straight :D |
| 17:21.48 | ckSynergy | Ok, I'm gonna label the <Shortcut> tag as busted |
| 17:22.08 | Taintedwisp | Okay here the plan, I want to make a slowing Splash attack. Pretty much what this does is shoots a blue blast of some sort at the opponate, and units around that unit get a behavior that slows their movement |
| 17:22.20 | Taintedwisp | Mono Rail uses 1 track * |
| 17:22.32 | Taintedwisp | Mono(One) rail |
| 17:22.35 | Ahli | 2 track piece types |
| 17:22.42 | Ahli | straight and straight (long) |
| 17:22.47 | Taintedwisp | ahh |
| 17:23.13 | Ahli | the long pieces can be used to make it cross a street |
| 17:24.35 | Ahli | and they can drive in both ways |
| 17:25.42 | Taintedwisp | starting to get a bit chilly outside |
| 17:26.36 | ckSynergy | Anyone know of a way to add allied units to a control group, if you have shared control? |
| 17:27.10 | Taintedwisp | I think I may have broken an entire mirror factory when I was little haah |
| 17:27.36 | Taintedwisp | 7 years... x 10 ^ 21 Thats how many years are left.... |
| 17:27.44 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 17:27.57 | Zolden | rebuild it Tainted, it counts |
| 17:28.02 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 17:28.09 | Taintedwisp | Nah, Im good |
| 17:28.17 | Taintedwisp | I like my bad luck, its like a good friend.. |
| 17:28.18 | Zolden | build a huge building with mimmored surface |
| 17:28.29 | Taintedwisp | Mirrored* |
| 17:28.34 | Zolden | yea |
| 17:28.40 | Taintedwisp | lol that reminds me of that movie Mirrors |
| 17:28.42 | Taintedwisp | Great movie |
| 17:28.57 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vBGOrI6yBk |
| 17:29.00 | Taintedwisp | Thats what I say... |
| 17:29.18 | Taintedwisp | damn thats a long ass intro |
| 17:29.21 | Taintedwisp | 45 seconds |
| 17:30.30 | Zolden | water is a liquid mirror you know |
| 17:30.32 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VyzYbqRuFE Thats how I feel when I turn on the tv... |
| 17:30.37 | Zolden | when you pee, you create a mirror |
| 17:30.57 | Zolden | tv? what are you, 90 years old? |
| 17:31.00 | Taintedwisp | Zolden does that mean you pee on your own face? |
| 17:31.15 | Taintedwisp | I like having noise in the background |
| 17:31.35 | Zolden | buy 1000 birds, pretty noisy |
| 17:31.50 | Taintedwisp | I'm good |
| 17:32.01 | Zolden | BUY FUCKING BIRDS |
| 17:32.03 | Taintedwisp | I hate birds... Used to have 20 Parakeets |
| 17:32.08 | Taintedwisp | I hated them soo damn much |
| 17:32.23 | Zolden | and... killed them? |
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| 17:32.40 | Taintedwisp | Lets just say this... The cat SOMEHOW opened that cage and killed them all... i have no idea how it happened though |
| 17:32.51 | Zolden | :))) |
| 17:32.57 | Repo | New map: Lame Defence - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/lame-defence/ |
| 17:32.58 | Repo | New asset: Icon Selection Standalone - http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/icon-selection-standalone/ |
| 17:33.03 | Taintedwisp | Cat was fed... atleast |
| 17:33.31 | Taintedwisp | Damn Dirty birds refused to talk |
| 17:33.48 | Taintedwisp | The only bird I will have at this point, is a chicken who can play checkers.... |
| 17:34.06 | Taintedwisp | Why? because that would be badass |
| 17:34.43 | Zolden | chess is badass becuase they both have "ss" at end |
| 17:35.24 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 17:35.29 | Blizz-Deletarius | Hey everyone |
| 17:35.35 | Taintedwisp | But the chicken wouldnt have a chance against me in chess... |
| 17:35.46 | Blizz-Deletarius | could you guys do me a favor whenever you create threads on the blizz forums? |
| 17:35.52 | Blizz-Deletarius | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/6368566941 |
| 17:35.53 | Taintedwisp | Deletarius, Which would you rather have, 1000 birds, or 1 chicken who can play checkers? |
| 17:36.03 | Blizz-Deletarius | can the birds play checkers? |
| 17:36.07 | Blizz-Deletarius | also, what kind of birds? |
| 17:36.13 | Blizz-Deletarius | and how well can the chicken play checkers? |
| 17:36.18 | Taintedwisp | they are parakeets no talky no checkers |
| 17:36.29 | Taintedwisp | The chicken can play like a 14 year old |
| 17:36.30 | Blizz-Deletarius | just parakeets? |
| 17:36.34 | Taintedwisp | yup parakeets |
| 17:36.37 | Blizz-Deletarius | :| |
| 17:36.44 | Blizz-Deletarius | is the chicken loud? |
| 17:36.59 | Taintedwisp | Hes playin checkers quietly |
| 17:37.02 | Blizz-Deletarius | chicken |
| 17:37.11 | Blizz-Deletarius | too much to clean up w/1000 birds |
| 17:37.14 | Taintedwisp | its a legitimate question |
| 17:37.33 | Taintedwisp | though he does squawk at you when he wins |
| 17:37.41 | Taintedwisp | he really likes to rub it in |
| 17:37.43 | Blizz-Deletarius | and those are pretty run of the mill birds w/the parakeets |
| 17:37.46 | Blizz-Deletarius | that's fine |
| 17:37.51 | Blizz-Deletarius | still less to clean up and deal with |
| 17:38.07 | Blizz-Deletarius | but anyway |
| 17:38.10 | Blizz-Deletarius | if you're making a new thread |
| 17:38.17 | Blizz-Deletarius | please use the tagging: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/6368566941 |
| 17:38.28 | Blizz-Deletarius | additionally, use [Discussion] for general discussions |
| 17:38.37 | Taintedwisp | hah, gotcha, for now on i will |
| 17:38.46 | Taintedwisp | kk sounds great. |
| 17:38.50 | Blizz-Deletarius | I'm going through and changing the ones on the first page |
| 17:38.54 | Blizz-Deletarius | but |
| 17:40.29 | Taintedwisp | hmm, How to do this... |
| 17:42.21 | Taintedwisp | Okay say I wanted to create a weapon that shot at people that applys a buff in a target radius, I would just use a search area attached to an Apply Buff effect correct? |
| 17:42.36 | ckSynergy | Hey Deletarius, I would really appreciate futher information about the Shortcut tag |
| 17:43.23 | ckSynergy | I appended the game hotkeys txt file, I tried a custom value, and I tried overriding the old values, and no situation worked |
| 17:44.18 | ckSynergy | even tried adding a shortcut code to the first slot (the "container") to a blank value, and even that didnt work |
| 17:45.08 | Taintedwisp | yo ckSynergy, did i have that correct? |
| 17:45.29 | Taintedwisp | And then I just attach the Search Area effect to the weapon right? |
| 17:45.34 | ckSynergy | yea |
| 17:45.35 | ckSynergy | thats right |
| 17:45.44 | Taintedwisp | Kk Sweet thanks |
| 17:45.45 | ckSynergy | well, wait |
| 17:45.50 | ckSynergy | the weapon can only target units |
| 17:46.00 | Taintedwisp | yeah, but I want it to have splash |
| 17:46.07 | ckSynergy | splash damage? |
| 17:46.11 | ckSynergy | or splash effect? |
| 17:46.15 | Taintedwisp | Spash Apply Buff |
| 17:46.16 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 17:46.20 | ckSynergy | ok, yea |
| 17:46.22 | ckSynergy | you have it right |
| 17:46.27 | Taintedwisp | splash* |
| 17:46.31 | Taintedwisp | kk Thanks |
| 17:46.39 | ckSynergy | Weapon->Search->Apply Buff |
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| 17:47.18 | mille25 | hi |
| 17:50.24 | Blizz-Deletarius | oi |
| 17:50.33 | Blizz-Deletarius | finally done |
| 17:50.39 | Blizz-Deletarius | updating the first page |
| 17:53.52 | Taintedwisp | say I wanted to Tint the units the effect hit how would I do this? what kind of actor would i use and such? |
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| 17:57.04 | Blizz-Deletarius | ck |
| 17:57.09 | Blizz-Deletarius | "if you add <Shortcut val="@UI/Graphics_Hotkey"/> to a button for example that should make pressing G activate the button" |
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| 18:16.41 | Blizz-Deletarius | gotta go for the day, bye everyone |
| 18:16.48 | TheSkunk__ | bye |
| 18:16.55 | Taintedwisp | Cya Deletarius |
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| 18:17.14 | Zandose | hi |
| 18:17.48 | DeadZergling | hello |
| 18:18.04 | DeadZergling | see yet another variation of a duck name today, SnowDuck |
| 18:18.27 | TheSkunk__ | Its still duckie |
| 18:18.30 | Taintedwisp | say I wanted to Tint the units the effect hit how would I do this? what kind of actor would i use and such? |
| 18:18.34 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 18:18.46 | TheSkunk__ | just with snow on him |
| 18:18.58 | SnowDuck | ^ |
| 18:19.07 | SnowDuck | it's snowing today! =D |
| 18:19.20 | DeadZergling | depends what you want exactly, tainted |
| 18:19.21 | Taintedwisp | Lucky bastard... |
| 18:19.24 | DeadZergling | you want a temporary effect |
| 18:19.25 | Taintedwisp | Me want snow1111 |
| 18:19.26 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 18:19.32 | DeadZergling | or want them to always be that color? |
| 18:19.39 | Taintedwisp | Temporary |
| 18:19.55 | Taintedwisp | I just want to tint them light blue |
| 18:20.03 | DeadZergling | well, could create a new event |
| 18:20.13 | DeadZergling | just have it be effect.damagename.start |
| 18:20.18 | DeadZergling | set tint color light blue |
| 18:20.23 | DeadZergling | then another new event |
| 18:20.27 | Taintedwisp | I know the event |
| 18:20.30 | Taintedwisp | But what actor type? |
| 18:20.31 | DeadZergling | effect.damagename.start |
| 18:20.42 | DeadZergling | what do you mean what actor type |
| 18:20.47 | DeadZergling | it goes right in the unit actor |
| 18:20.53 | Taintedwisp | Nah I could just do Behavior.Frozenammor.Target On and then set tint |
| 18:21.06 | Taintedwisp | Sooo i have to do this in EVERY units actor? |
| 18:21.08 | DeadZergling | does the effect apply a behavior? |
| 18:21.14 | Taintedwisp | yup |
| 18:21.49 | DeadZergling | yes, probably looking at doing it for every unit about, at least that way |
| 18:21.58 | DeadZergling | might be a simpler technique, but I don't know it off the top of my head |
| 18:22.33 | Taintedwisp | There has to be a much simpler way |
| 18:22.43 | Taintedwisp | I cant apply it to over 69 units |
| 18:23.43 | DeadZergling | isn't that bad if you cheat and copy paste w/ xml, lol |
| 18:24.02 | Taintedwisp | no its still pretty bad... |
| 18:24.09 | Taintedwisp | There must be an easier way though |
| 18:26.41 | DeadZergling | I used to use tint colors for freeze effects |
| 18:26.49 | DeadZergling | Decided to trash it though |
| 18:27.01 | DeadZergling | too buggy if any other tint colors exist |
| 18:27.04 | Taintedwisp | okay I think I got it |
| 18:27.20 | Taintedwisp | Why what happens if there are 2 tints? |
| 18:27.37 | DeadZergling | clear tint isn't happy if there is no tint to clear |
| 18:27.43 | DeadZergling | have to reapply tints sometimes |
| 18:27.45 | DeadZergling | etc |
| 18:27.48 | Taintedwisp | ? what happens? |
| 18:28.00 | Taintedwisp | does it just plain bug? |
| 18:28.14 | DeadZergling | it is doable, but a headache |
| 18:28.31 | DeadZergling | example, I decided to make cows a dark blueish color |
| 18:28.42 | DeadZergling | they'd get hit w/ a freeze type spell |
| 18:28.44 | DeadZergling | turn colors |
| 18:28.50 | DeadZergling | then tint color would clear at end |
| 18:28.55 | DeadZergling | then they'd be default cow color |
| 18:29.36 | DeadZergling | so had to add more to make them go back to their original color at the end |
| 18:29.38 | Taintedwisp | ok? |
| 18:29.48 | Taintedwisp | ahhh i see what your saying |
| 18:29.59 | DeadZergling | but it was overall kind of flakey, wasn't that predictable, so I just went with an active crystal model being created where the freeze happened |
| 18:30.14 | Taintedwisp | so what did you end up doing? |
| 18:30.24 | Taintedwisp | ahh |
| 18:30.28 | Taintedwisp | Okay how did you do that? |
| 18:30.40 | Taintedwisp | Im doing a freeze type deal |
| 18:30.44 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 18:30.44 | DeadZergling | I think I just made a modeloneshot or buffoneshot |
| 18:30.52 | Taintedwisp | well it drastically slows |
| 18:31.00 | DeadZergling | and had it create whenever the behavior was applied |
| 18:31.06 | DeadZergling | so it happens at whatever unit |
| 18:31.08 | Ahli | how fast should my rail drive? |
| 18:31.25 | DeadZergling | 5 mph above the limit |
| 18:31.29 | DeadZergling | so the cops don't pull him over |
| 18:32.31 | DeadZergling | still working on traffic I take it Ahli? |
| 18:33.42 | Ahli | yeah. I got monorail trains to follow a track |
| 18:34.40 | Taintedwisp | Testing now |
| 18:34.48 | Taintedwisp | his monoraid uses 2 rails |
| 18:34.51 | Taintedwisp | hes a monster |
| 18:34.53 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 18:35.11 | DeadZergling | I see, I been thinking about making some kind of civilian traffic |
| 18:35.17 | DeadZergling | I'd use it in my project anyways |
| 18:35.30 | DeadZergling | been mapping my town out, how I want them to act, that kind of thing |
| 18:36.28 | DeadZergling | might use a few vehicles, so civilians can get drunk and crash cars a bit, lol |
| 18:38.10 | DeadZergling | undecided mostly though, I do need to make the town have shit going on though |
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| 18:57.46 | Taintedwisp | G4's two longest-running and defining series, Attack of the Show! and X-Play, will be ending their run at the end of 2012 Knew these new 2 people would fail.... |
| 18:58.11 | Taintedwisp | And there goes the last of G4... they should just change the name of their site/Channel |
| 18:58.35 | Taintedwisp | oh well sad sad day |
| 18:58.55 | Taintedwisp | Hope Sessler still Rates game, but without G4 behind him, Would be cool to see him on youtube every now and again |
| 19:04.17 | Taintedwisp | okay i made an apply buff, now how would i make an ability that can be toggeled off and o? |
| 19:05.17 | Dustin|Work | Validators |
| 19:05.48 | Taintedwisp | So I could make it an effect instant then right for the ability type? |
| 19:05.54 | Taintedwisp | and add validators |
| 19:07.30 | Dustin|Work | Have some Validators to check if a unit had the buff |
| 19:07.40 | Dustin|Work | If so, remove it, if not add it |
| 19:08.52 | Taintedwisp | hmmm |
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| 19:15.16 | Taintedwisp | why is it this difficult to make a damn toggleable |
| 19:15.49 | Taintedwisp | 'you know what, i got this... hell with it haha |
| 19:25.12 | egod | blizzard should make a kind of Kickstarted project for Sc2 map! |
| 19:25.21 | egod | kickstarter |
| 19:25.35 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 19:26.08 | egod | oh and give us the World of Warcraft MMO editor so we can all make MMO and host on blizzard server |
| 19:26.23 | egod | money $$ |
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| 19:30.57 | hobbidude | Hey deletarius do you know of any conditions for checking if a number of even or odd? |
| 19:32.05 | DeadZergling | dele is out for the day I think |
| 19:32.28 | hobbidude | hot damn |
| 19:32.33 | DeadZergling | you checking in triggers or data hobbi? |
| 19:32.48 | hobbidude | trigger |
| 19:32.59 | hobbidude | closest thing i can find is mod check for remainder |
| 19:33.01 | DeadZergling | that's easy, just grab the number, mod it by 2 |
| 19:33.11 | DeadZergling | if the result does not equal 0, it is odd |
| 19:33.18 | DeadZergling | otherwise it is even |
| 19:33.28 | hobbidude | fuck |
| 19:33.36 | hobbidude | for some reason i though 1 mod 2 wouldn't work |
| 19:34.11 | hobbidude | i guess only if im working in integers |
| 19:34.25 | hobbidude | kk |
| 19:34.26 | hobbidude | ty |
| 19:36.18 | DeadZergling | aye, isn't so useful for reals for sure |
| 19:36.43 | DeadZergling | you can use the same technique to see if something is dividable by 3, 4, 5, etc, just mod it by that number first, lol |
| 19:44.10 | Ahli | what does the deceleration value mean? |
| 19:44.22 | ckSynergy | uhhh |
| 19:44.24 | ckSynergy | Tainted |
| 19:44.32 | ckSynergy | Behavior Ability :P |
| 19:44.39 | ckSynergy | They toggle on and off |
| 19:44.48 | ckSynergy | unless you want a cooldown for both the on and the off |
| 19:45.06 | ckSynergy | then you use effect instant |
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| 20:30.26 | Taintedwisp | Going to see which I like better now |
| 20:30.27 | Taintedwisp | :D |
| 20:34.27 | Taintedwisp | Using a buff behavior is there a way to give a unit 2 weapons at once? |
| 20:35.21 | DeadZergling | yes, just use 2 diff behaviors w/ 2 diff weaps, or 1 buff w/ 2 weapons :P |
| 20:35.36 | Taintedwisp | Okay I added 2 weapons to 1 buff |
| 20:35.48 | Taintedwisp | But the buff only gives the 1 weapon thats on the top |
| 20:35.58 | DeadZergling | are the 2 weapons the same? |
| 20:36.02 | Taintedwisp | no |
| 20:36.15 | DeadZergling | are both weapons flagged as visible? |
| 20:36.31 | Taintedwisp | dunno The 2nd weapon just freezes |
| 20:36.41 | Taintedwisp | but its not freezing |
| 20:36.50 | Taintedwisp | its like its not getting the weapon at all |
| 20:37.02 | DeadZergling | you do realize you have to uncheck the box that makes them share periods right? |
| 20:37.28 | Taintedwisp | Wheres that box? |
| 20:37.38 | DeadZergling | excuse me, linked cooldown |
| 20:37.50 | DeadZergling | look for weapon options |
| 20:38.55 | Taintedwisp | kk testing now |
| 20:39.07 | Taintedwisp | if all goes well, this ability is compelte |
| 20:39.31 | DeadZergling | nice, im still arguing w/ myself about a last ability to give my necro, lol |
| 20:41.59 | Taintedwisp | nice |
| 20:43.19 | Taintedwisp | Is there a way to make it cost while the ability is active? like 1 energy per second? |
| 20:43.33 | DeadZergling | sure, just give it a periodic effect |
| 20:43.59 | Taintedwisp | or is there a way to make the buff remove energy? |
| 20:44.08 | DeadZergling | is what I'm saying |
| 20:44.22 | DeadZergling | give t he buff a periodic effect |
| 20:44.44 | DeadZergling | make it take energy away from the unit |
| 20:44.56 | Taintedwisp | under the modifications or somewhere else? |
| 20:45.01 | Taintedwisp | i have the reiodic |
| 20:45.04 | Taintedwisp | peridoic |
| 20:45.08 | Taintedwisp | whatever lol |
| 20:45.08 | DeadZergling | no, is periodic |
| 20:45.21 | DeadZergling | you'll probably want to use a switch effect to start |
| 20:45.32 | DeadZergling | since I assume, if not enough energy, you'll want the buff to self remove, correct? |
| 20:45.51 | Taintedwisp | dammit lol |
| 20:46.05 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 20:46.42 | DeadZergling | okay, so youll need 1 switch effect, 1 modify unit effect, 1 remove behavior effect, and 1 validator for this to work |
| 20:46.58 | DeadZergling | validator will be unit has > whatever amount of energy you want to take away each tick |
| 20:47.06 | Taintedwisp | dammit... |
| 20:47.26 | Taintedwisp | Why on a toggle ability isnt there a periodic cost i can just put in... to make this soo much simpler |
| 20:47.49 | DeadZergling | what's so complicated, be like 2 minutes to make, lol |
| 20:48.01 | DeadZergling | make your ability 20 % cooler |
| 20:48.21 | Taintedwisp | What kind of Validator? |
| 20:48.40 | DeadZergling | not sure, should be some casterenergy ones w/ like GT 50, 150, etc |
| 20:48.50 | DeadZergling | i'd just find one of those, copy it, make the number be what you want |
| 20:49.25 | DeadZergling | if it only costs 1 energy a tick, I think one already exists called CasterHasEnergy |
| 20:50.21 | Taintedwisp | ok |
| 20:50.43 | Taintedwisp | i copy/pasted that one and changed the value to 3 |
| 20:51.05 | DeadZergling | okay, so if that validator is true |
| 20:51.11 | DeadZergling | use the modify unit property effect |
| 20:51.14 | DeadZergling | take 3 energy away |
| 20:51.22 | DeadZergling | if not, remove the behavior |
| 20:52.17 | Taintedwisp | what? |
| 20:52.25 | DeadZergling | on your switch effect |
| 20:52.31 | DeadZergling | you'll use that validator you just made |
| 20:52.42 | DeadZergling | if the validator is true, use modify unit, if not use remove behavior |
| 20:53.30 | Taintedwisp | When you say If the vaild is true, use modify unit if not, use remove, i dont know what your meaning |
| 20:54.01 | DeadZergling | used a switch effect before? |
| 20:54.05 | Taintedwisp | nope |
| 20:54.31 | DeadZergling | lol okay, have you used an if statement or case in triggers? |
| 20:54.50 | Taintedwisp | Nope, but I have used an If then in Visual basic |
| 20:54.59 | DeadZergling | well okay |
| 20:55.06 | DeadZergling | basically, the validator is your condition |
| 20:55.30 | Taintedwisp | ok |
| 20:55.43 | DeadZergling | what you are essentially doing is, if validator is true (the unit has 3 or more energy), then modify unit property to have 3 less energy |
| 20:55.53 | DeadZergling | Else, use remove behavior to remove the behavior |
| 20:56.00 | DeadZergling | is an if then else statement |
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| 20:56.26 | Taintedwisp | so then I need to make a remvoe Behavior? |
| 20:56.29 | DeadZergling | well technically, more of an if then else if ..... statement |
| 20:56.35 | DeadZergling | but for what we aredoing, if then else, lol |
| 20:56.40 | DeadZergling | correct |
| 20:56.50 | Taintedwisp | A remove behavior is an effect correct? |
| 20:56.57 | DeadZergling | yes |
| 20:57.18 | DeadZergling | pretty easy to set up, just make sure it removes 1 behavior, targets caster, and is removing the correct behavior |
| 20:58.06 | Taintedwisp | The defualt is the else statement |
| 20:58.10 | Taintedwisp | cprrect? |
| 20:58.13 | Taintedwisp | Correct? |
| 20:59.27 | Taintedwisp | Okay then where would I make it remove the Energy? |
| 20:59.39 | DeadZergling | that is part of your modify unit effect |
| 21:00.26 | Taintedwisp | change vitals to -3 energy correct? |
| 21:00.48 | Taintedwisp | or would I use the cost field i didnt see before |
| 21:01.34 | Taintedwisp | I consider this more of a work around then what it should be, periodic cost should be available on any ability...or on the buff itself.. |
| 21:01.35 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:01.40 | Taintedwisp | and it should already know to self remove |
| 21:03.12 | Taintedwisp | Testing document |
| 21:03.14 | Taintedwisp | I think I got it |
| 21:05.24 | Taintedwisp | well that didnt work haah |
| 21:06.46 | Taintedwisp | trying again |
| 21:08.00 | *** join/#sc2mapster Bounty (442ccc3b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.44.204.59) |
| 21:08.04 | Bounty | Hay Guyz >.< |
| 21:08.15 | Taintedwisp | Its works Thanks DeadZergling |
| 21:08.20 | Taintedwisp | Hey bounty |
| 21:08.31 | Bounty | Today is the day i am supposedly getting my first donation |
| 21:08.35 | Bounty | Any bets? |
| 21:08.42 | Bounty | :) |
| 21:08.51 | Taintedwisp | Ill bet in Editor work |
| 21:08.53 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:08.53 | Ahli | is there a way to make all terrain act like it is 2D only? |
| 21:09.00 | Ahli | in the editor for placement |
| 21:09.07 | Taintedwisp | I bet 1 ability you dont get it today, meaning you have to make me an ability if i am correct |
| 21:09.07 | Taintedwisp | mwhahaaha |
| 21:09.09 | Bounty | He claims $100 |
| 21:09.16 | Bounty | Which is why i seriously doubt it |
| 21:09.26 | Bounty | and someone just offerd me 1,000 to make him a civ map and a website |
| 21:09.31 | Bounty | which i had to decline |
| 21:09.34 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:09.40 | Taintedwisp | 1000 just isnt enough |
| 21:09.41 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:09.44 | Bounty | exactly |
| 21:09.48 | Bounty | not for a civ map |
| 21:09.51 | Bounty | AND a website |
| 21:09.53 | Taintedwisp | tell him to throw a couple 0s behind that :P |
| 21:09.58 | Taintedwisp | behaha |
| 21:09.59 | Bounty | i did |
| 21:10.00 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:10.06 | Bounty | i even said i would do it for 5k |
| 21:10.15 | Bounty | bc then i could atleast quit my job and do it fulltime |
| 21:10.19 | Taintedwisp | Should have told him money up front, and just never did it |
| 21:10.20 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:10.30 | Bounty | pretty sure thats illegal |
| 21:10.33 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:10.37 | Bounty | so now im asking him |
| 21:10.48 | Bounty | "Have you ever considered donating to my projects?" lol |
| 21:10.53 | Bounty | like ull throw 1k at me to make u something |
| 21:11.01 | Bounty | but not a cent for content you've already enjoyed |
| 21:11.02 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:11.13 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 21:11.15 | Taintedwisp | Civ sucks anyways |
| 21:11.17 | Bounty | i dont even know how to make a civ map |
| 21:11.19 | Taintedwisp | Less its Civ Wars |
| 21:11.25 | Taintedwisp | Civ wars was great |
| 21:11.27 | Bounty | maybe a 3rd person civ map |
| 21:11.27 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:11.31 | Taintedwisp | Civ is a Turn based game |
| 21:11.40 | Taintedwisp | With batallion size armies |
| 21:12.15 | Taintedwisp | To make a good one you would need thousands of actors on the map at the same time |
| 21:12.20 | Taintedwisp | around 20 per little army group |
| 21:12.30 | Taintedwisp | and you would need a map of the continents |
| 21:12.33 | Bounty | I bet i could make some bank if we could use kickstarter on sc2 maps lol |
| 21:12.39 | Bounty | and i did it for TriFaction or Doodad Hunt |
| 21:12.41 | Bounty | >.< |
| 21:12.48 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:13.14 | Bounty | But i'm pretty sure we cannot do that |
| 21:13.28 | Zolden | I made civ map yet |
| 21:13.33 | Taintedwisp | I dunno if you can or not, I just know if you accept money you HAVE TO DO IT |
| 21:13.49 | Bounty | well no shit |
| 21:13.56 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:14.00 | Bounty | it would be nice if i got enough money to hire a modeller |
| 21:14.01 | Taintedwisp | Well Shits no shit |
| 21:14.03 | Taintedwisp | shitty bastard |
| 21:14.05 | Bounty | and a musician |
| 21:14.11 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:14.13 | Bounty | I would blow ur mind |
| 21:14.15 | Bounty | :) |
| 21:14.24 | Taintedwisp | Why hire one? Why not become one and sale models for other games, Get good at it and make some real money |
| 21:14.46 | Bounty | I dont think thats just something you pick up and do |
| 21:15.55 | Taintedwisp | Why not? |
| 21:16.01 | Taintedwisp | Someone had to lol |
| 21:16.09 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:16.27 | Bounty | I prolly could not even figure out how to make a stick man |
| 21:16.32 | Bounty | which is actually something i wanted to do |
| 21:16.35 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:16.36 | Taintedwisp | Hell talk to trice, He makes great models, He had to learn from somewhere, and he doesnt seem to make a living off doing it |
| 21:16.41 | Bounty | like a battle arena with stick men |
| 21:16.43 | Taintedwisp | LOL |
| 21:16.48 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 21:16.51 | Bounty | Would be awesome wouldn it? |
| 21:17.06 | Zolden | check the model I made yesturday |
| 21:17.07 | Zolden | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/32/436/1st_turret_2.jpg |
| 21:17.19 | Taintedwisp | Well Fenix is 50% completed... well mroe like 35% his ultimate is way to OP lawl |
| 21:17.30 | Bounty | What is that.... |
| 21:17.39 | Zolden | it's a badass turret :) |
| 21:17.43 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:18.09 | Zolden | I think I spent about 50 hours of studying 3ds max to be able to make this |
| 21:18.32 | Taintedwisp | Zolden, i think it would be cooler if you made a bunker Under it, and made it a badass building |
| 21:19.26 | Zolden | yes, it would, but this one is just a test model to learn normal maps, not a serious crap |
| 21:19.35 | Taintedwisp | :Pah |
| 21:19.41 | Taintedwisp | Well looks nice for just starting out. |
| 21:19.49 | Zolden | it can be attached to bunker in the editor |
| 21:19.55 | Ahli | is there a model in sc2 that is like a round plate? |
| 21:20.20 | Zolden | Ahli, make any tound thing and heavily reduce Z scale |
| 21:20.33 | Ahli | wait, I think I don't need it |
| 21:20.41 | Zolden | even better |
| 21:21.01 | Ahli | will work without plate and looks more dangerous :D |
| 21:21.25 | Ahli | now I try to make a lift for the train |
| 21:21.31 | Zolden | I can't even imagin hpw afr you went in your city attempts |
| 21:21.54 | Zolden | does train work yet? |
| 21:22.15 | Ahli | yes. but I didn't implement wagons, yet.. I should try that before the lift I think |
| 21:22.25 | Bounty | You know what a few ppl have said to me Taintedwisp |
| 21:22.29 | Bounty | They would donate if there were perks |
| 21:23.29 | Zolden | Ahli, another little idea: you could make civilians to stop cars, get in and let cars drive them to another placelike a taxi |
| 21:24.30 | Zolden | and some of them won't pay, and run away, and the car to send a huge missile to them and blow the motherfucker |
| 21:24.34 | Ahli | well... as long as I don't hardcode where they go in and out I can do that |
| 21:25.52 | Zolden | not hard: a trigger to randomly give a behavior to approach any car and then just kill, give the car a behavior with timer, and create civilian at behavior retire |
| 21:26.29 | Zolden | oh, I must stop to give advices to ppl and concentrate on my own map :)) |
| 21:26.40 | Ahli | hmmm... now the visual output of sc2 turned all black... |
| 21:28.10 | Taintedwisp | lol bounty |
| 21:28.17 | Taintedwisp | no perks dont do it |
| 21:28.35 | Taintedwisp | 1 sec lemme finish samich ill explain |
| 21:28.40 | Bounty | well duh bc its not a donation at that point |
| 21:28.42 | Bounty | its a purchase |
| 21:28.55 | Bounty | which is not legal lol |
| 21:28.55 | Taintedwisp | no |
| 21:29.04 | Taintedwisp | well maybe |
| 21:29.21 | Ahli | if you do the perks, he is not forced to pay you |
| 21:29.31 | Ahli | or to "donate" |
| 21:29.34 | Taintedwisp | but i dunno, All i know is that Dark Rev got into some trouble when he was taking donations and giving some extras to people. for Mafia, from what I have heard |
| 21:29.38 | Bounty | yeah but its a purchase and not a donation |
| 21:29.53 | Bounty | how much trouble? |
| 21:30.09 | Taintedwisp | The wy he had it set up if you donate soo much he put mod priviliages, or a "Perk" |
| 21:30.22 | Taintedwisp | I think Blizzard got on him if I remember what I was told |
| 21:30.47 | Taintedwisp | I was told by several people on the battle.net forums when that 500 post Kill Mafia thread popped up |
| 21:31.28 | Bounty | Well now he has |
| 21:31.35 | Bounty | in-game recognition |
| 21:31.38 | Bounty | for donating |
| 21:31.39 | Bounty | like wtf |
| 21:31.40 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:31.44 | Bounty | apparently u can have that? |
| 21:31.45 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:32.03 | Taintedwisp | Well yeah thats just a title, You could Give Donator status which is just a highlight of their name |
| 21:32.04 | Taintedwisp | i guess |
| 21:32.24 | Taintedwisp | I mean things like that, that dont affect the actual gameplay I dunno, I would think they would be allowed |
| 21:33.26 | Taintedwisp | I dont know the specifics, but I do know that donating for actual gameplay changing stuff was disallowed |
| 21:35.38 | egod | i received Donation for my map already |
| 21:35.53 | Bounty | lovely |
| 21:36.17 | Dustin|Work | lol wat |
| 21:36.44 | egod | i have a budget of 100$ just with some video |
| 21:36.58 | egod | its when bashiok twitted me |
| 21:37.05 | egod | maybe its him |
| 21:37.22 | Taintedwisp | I'm taking donations right now... Donate to me, for a flight ticket to NJ where i will punch bounty right in the balls |
| 21:37.31 | Bounty | >.< |
| 21:37.44 | Taintedwisp | its going to a good cause |
| 21:37.47 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 21:37.48 | egod | you should start a kickstarter video |
| 21:37.59 | Taintedwisp | ahah |
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| 21:40.40 | egod | its funny cause the guys who make the Tactic Map example name his map *BOUNTY* |
| 21:40.53 | Taintedwisp | Hmm i wonder if mappers could use kickstarter haha |
| 21:40.58 | egod | when i saw this on front page, i was sure it was bounty the creator |
| 21:41.05 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:41.31 | Bounty | Clearly, i inspired him |
| 21:41.37 | egod | meh |
| 21:41.38 | Taintedwisp | Bounty does have the ego for it... thats for sure |
| 21:41.42 | Taintedwisp | ooooo |
| 21:41.58 | Bounty | I wonder how much DR has made off of Mafia |
| 21:42.26 | egod | kickstarter with sc2map? i dont think cause blizzard will know |
| 21:42.40 | Taintedwisp | No telling, He doesnt do anything but Mafia, so I would imagine quite a decent amount |
| 21:43.07 | Bounty | I should make something to compete with mafia :) |
| 21:43.16 | Bounty | not really compete |
| 21:43.17 | Bounty | but destroy |
| 21:43.26 | Taintedwisp | I dont see how mafia is popular, its a crappy game... |
| 21:43.54 | Taintedwisp | of course I hate those damn other ones too Coreles Roleplay Yeah I didnt remember the name I started typeing and hoped I would remember |
| 21:43.56 | Taintedwisp | CORTEX |
| 21:44.15 | egod | i tryed mafia 1xtime, i was like: nice lets kill something!!! oh wait..., and i never play it again |
| 21:44.55 | Taintedwisp | I was thinking, AWESOME I GET TO run around a city and run the drug houses.. then I was like... WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT |
| 21:44.59 | Bounty | It would not be hard to make Mafia into an game with more action |
| 21:45.08 | egod | haha |
| 21:45.11 | egod | yeah right |
| 21:45.16 | Taintedwisp | There is no action in mafia... |
| 21:45.22 | Bounty | no shit |
| 21:45.24 | Bounty | Thats what i just aid |
| 21:45.25 | Bounty | said* |
| 21:45.27 | Bounty | MROE |
| 21:45.29 | Taintedwisp | Its Cutscene, Click option, then Vote. |
| 21:45.30 | Bounty | MORE |
| 21:45.40 | Taintedwisp | you do that 11 times, and then you win or loose. |
| 21:45.41 | Taintedwisp | ITS BOREING |
| 21:46.03 | Taintedwisp | I mean I guess it was hard, back then, but now it wouldnt be anything |
| 21:46.04 | Bounty | Do you think Haunted Forest is better then Mafia |
| 21:46.14 | Bounty | :) |
| 21:46.15 | egod | i never tryed |
| 21:46.37 | egod | Trifaction was good |
| 21:46.40 | Taintedwisp | No bounty, tbh, those min Settings really restricts it |
| 21:46.40 | egod | yeah |
| 21:46.52 | Taintedwisp | without the minimum settings then yes |
| 21:46.56 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:46.59 | Bounty | so the answer is yes then |
| 21:47.01 | Bounty | ty |
| 21:47.18 | Bounty | We had this discussion before, nothing i can do about the min settings |
| 21:47.18 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:47.23 | Bounty | So therefore |
| 21:47.24 | Taintedwisp | yeah I know |
| 21:47.26 | Bounty | Your answer is yes |
| 21:47.27 | Bounty | :) |
| 21:47.30 | Taintedwisp | But it still restricts the living shit outta your map |
| 21:47.55 | Taintedwisp | you could change the lighting for the players on Low settings change it to the vision lighting |
| 21:48.07 | Taintedwisp | or go into photoshop and remove everythings color |
| 21:48.08 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 21:48.12 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:48.18 | Taintedwisp | thats alot of texture swappin though |
| 21:48.34 | Bounty | not really |
| 21:48.38 | Bounty | well |
| 21:48.39 | Taintedwisp | then do it. |
| 21:48.40 | Bounty | yeah |
| 21:48.40 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:48.41 | Bounty | it would be |
| 21:48.47 | Bounty | and i have no xp doing that |
| 21:48.51 | Bounty | so it would take even longer |
| 21:48.54 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:49.05 | Taintedwisp | Well really its very easy |
| 21:49.11 | Taintedwisp | you just go to Layers> channels and remove the colors |
| 21:49.12 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:49.41 | Bounty | what |
| 21:49.43 | Bounty | the fuck |
| 21:49.46 | Bounty | i am so pissed off right now |
| 21:49.47 | Bounty | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ag0cIjzRjqaSdDNXYnkxTzdlTFN3Y1hXbmI0MnVTUXc#gid=0 |
| 21:50.29 | Taintedwisp | $8352.11 |
| 21:50.30 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:50.30 | egod | W T F |
| 21:50.31 | Taintedwisp | Total |
| 21:50.32 | Taintedwisp | haah |
| 21:50.38 | Taintedwisp | Way too much for the SHITTY ASS MAP |
| 21:50.38 | Bounty | are you FUCKING kidding me |
| 21:50.41 | Taintedwisp | IT SUCKS SOO FUCKING BAD |
| 21:50.44 | Taintedwisp | WHAT THE FUCKING HELl |
| 21:50.45 | Bounty | and i have not received a single fucking cent |
| 21:50.46 | Bounty | im done |
| 21:50.47 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:50.48 | Bounty | fuck it |
| 21:50.52 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:51.00 | egod | where he do all his pub? |
| 21:51.04 | egod | for donate? |
| 21:51.06 | Taintedwisp | Well in his defense Mafia has been out for over 2 years |
| 21:51.17 | Bounty | Thats more then i make in 2 years |
| 21:51.19 | Bounty | working at Kmart |
| 21:51.34 | egod | HAHA |
| 21:51.36 | egod | wait |
| 21:51.44 | egod | i wanna know where is the donate button |
| 21:51.58 | Bounty | its on sc2mafia.com |
| 21:52.08 | Taintedwisp | thats utter horseshit haah |
| 21:52.18 | egod | ahh nice |
| 21:52.26 | egod | like me, www.tristramrpg.com |
| 21:52.29 | egod | :D |
| 21:52.30 | egod | lol |
| 21:54.14 | Bounty | I love how he calls people who donated below 2 dollars freeloaders |
| 21:54.25 | Bounty | We need to slay this fat bastard |
| 21:54.33 | Bounty | thats 2.5k for each of us |
| 21:54.37 | Bounty | if we split it 3 ways |
| 21:55.45 | egod | is it legal to make a video for donation to a project on sc2? |
| 21:55.51 | egod | on kickstarter |
| 21:55.57 | Bounty | idk |
| 21:56.00 | Bounty | ask the Blizz guys in here |
| 21:56.04 | Bounty | i would think they would know |
| 21:56.15 | Taintedwisp | Yeah dammit |
| 21:57.19 | egod | im pretty sure you have to make everything in your project so its not legal cause there some blizzard copyright |
| 21:57.28 | egod | something like this |
| 21:57.38 | egod | its like publicity on youtube |
| 21:57.55 | egod | pub on youtube for cash |
| 21:57.58 | egod | same shit |
| 22:04.20 | egod | i imagine a kickstarter video of bounty: hi, my name is bounty, in the past i made a map named: trifaction, i was so piss that i delete everything, plz donate |
| 22:04.32 | Ahli | lol |
| 22:04.55 | Taintedwisp | Bounty dont forget |
| 22:05.03 | Taintedwisp | You get no donations, you make me 1 ability :P |
| 22:06.07 | Taintedwisp | k? |
| 22:06.08 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:06.32 | Taintedwisp | KKKKK!!!!!! |
| 22:06.33 | Taintedwisp | ? |
| 22:06.38 | egod | no |
| 22:08.15 | egod | who is Kaelten, he never talk |
| 22:08.24 | egod | bot? |
| 22:09.04 | egod | ahh bounty :( |
| 22:09.08 | egod | hes mad |
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| 22:09.37 | Taintedwisp_ | Keal is one of many Inactive Moderators I think |
| 22:09.52 | egod | k |
| 22:09.53 | Taintedwisp_ | Not too inactive appearently he last logged on mapster 3 days ago |
| 22:10.03 | Taintedwisp_ | WowAce.com & CurseForge.com Adminstrator |
| 22:10.07 | Taintedwisp_ | Thats what it says |
| 22:10.09 | egod | ah |
| 22:10.20 | Taintedwisp_ | so hes like Prencher, hes not really a mapper, he works for Curse |
| 22:10.22 | Taintedwisp_ | I think |
| 22:13.25 | Taintedwisp | Testing document brb |
| 22:14.11 | Ahli | well... my train can be a moving derailed train with burning wagons, too... |
| 22:14.30 | Ahli | but it looks pretty awkward |
| 22:14.43 | Taintedwisp | can it be moving 1 cart this is just a running zergling? |
| 22:15.43 | Ahli | well... it's not hard to add anything new that moves onto the tracks |
| 22:17.54 | Ahli | the train + wagons are all self moving on the track... I'm using 2 abilities and 3 behaviors for that... (pretty similar to the cars, just with visible track units)... I could add an ultralisk that moves like a car or a zergling that moves on train tracks, yes |
| 22:18.55 | Taintedwisp | Deadzergling you there? |
| 22:19.20 | Taintedwisp | The Behavior is not removing |
| 22:19.36 | Taintedwisp | So either the validator or the Remove bahavior isnt working |
| 22:19.52 | DeadZergling | does the remove behavior have the right behavior picked? |
| 22:20.08 | Taintedwisp | Yeah |
| 22:20.17 | DeadZergling | does the behavior count read 1? |
| 22:20.28 | Taintedwisp | nope |
| 22:20.29 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:20.47 | Taintedwisp | Now will this also Untoggle my ability? |
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| 22:21.01 | Taintedwisp | nvm I know it will |
| 22:21.05 | DeadZergling | is removing the behavior.... |
| 22:21.10 | DeadZergling | so yea, lol |
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| 22:23.38 | Taintedwisp | OOOOOO KAY!! |
| 22:23.39 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:23.44 | Taintedwisp | Now its doing something weird |
| 22:24.01 | Taintedwisp | it goes down to 15 enregy(validator is set to 15) and then it just stops costing... |
| 22:24.06 | Taintedwisp | Behavior does not get removed |
| 22:24.52 | Blizz-Tenarsis | just reviewed the fix for that epic anchoring bug |
| 22:25.17 | Taintedwisp | Hey Tenarsis |
| 22:25.55 | Blizz-Tenarsis | hi |
| 22:26.20 | egod | tenarsis, we have a question, is it Legal to start a kickstarter Project for Sc2map ? |
| 22:26.38 | Taintedwisp | haah |
| 22:27.12 | Blizz-Tenarsis | not an official response but I can't imagine why that wouldn't be okay unless it conflicts with Kickstarter's terms |
| 22:27.37 | egod | but we using blizzard (tools editor) |
| 22:28.13 | Taintedwisp | I looked at the terms, and only 1 part of it Gets me, where it says a project must not be Open-Ended... So the decision is this, Is it going to be open ended? |
| 22:28.45 | egod | hm |
| 22:29.10 | Blizz-Tenarsis | if you were to sell the map then Blizzard matters, otherwise you are just accepting donations essentially I would think |
| 22:29.32 | egod | its donation right, no selling |
| 22:29.42 | egod | when the map is done, its free on bnet |
| 22:34.39 | Taintedwisp | danget... Why wont this work |
| 22:36.44 | Taintedwisp | SHIT |
| 22:36.47 | Taintedwisp | WORK DANGET!!! |
| 22:41.14 | Taintedwisp | BAHHH!~~~ |
| 22:42.09 | Taintedwisp | i Wish I knew where I was screwing up at |
| 22:46.33 | egod | someone did it |
| 22:46.35 | egod | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1011310132/star-nation-a-look-at-the-players-behind-starcraft?ref=live |
| 22:46.45 | egod | its related to sc2 |
| 22:46.56 | egod | so i dont see why a map project cant be legal |
| 22:48.55 | Ahli | http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/5233/screenshot2012102700472.jpg |
| 22:49.32 | Taintedwisp | Monorail still measn one rail!!! |
| 22:49.36 | Taintedwisp | Means* |
| 22:49.50 | Ahli | it is on 1 rail? |
| 22:50.26 | Ahli | it's a train with 14 wagons :D |
| 22:50.33 | Taintedwisp | No there are 2 rails lol |
| 22:50.44 | Taintedwisp | No zergling on 1 wagon? |
| 22:50.46 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:50.51 | Taintedwisp | Sop |
| 22:51.35 | Ahli | look at the models in the editor |
| 22:51.45 | Zolden | Ahli, woks? |
| 22:51.49 | Zolden | works? |
| 22:52.45 | Ahli | yes |
| 22:52.52 | Zolden | greetings |
| 22:53.19 | Ahli | but I fear it's going to be hard to stop all of the train at once |
| 22:53.26 | Ahli | in theory |
| 22:53.33 | Zolden | cmon, u'll do it |
| 22:53.42 | Ahli | hmm... persistens and search effect... easy :D |
| 22:53.57 | Taintedwisp | yea on 2 rails its hard to stop the entire train; |
| 22:54.07 | Zolden | First thought - to spread behaviors liek a virus |
| 22:54.10 | Ahli | it's still only 1 rail |
| 22:54.11 | Zolden | search - apply |
| 22:54.13 | Taintedwisp | Ahli you could do it like real trains, do very slowly lol |
| 22:54.37 | Taintedwisp | I see 2 rails :P |
| 22:55.25 | Ahli | well... let's see how fast I can make it before it breaks |
| 22:55.32 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 22:55.39 | Taintedwisp | You should make a video when your done |
| 22:57.29 | mille25 | Blizz-Tenarsis: wait... the epic bug is fixed? |
| 22:58.10 | egod | pledge of 1$, Join a list of Beta Tester pledge of 5$ Join a list of Alpha tester pledge of 10$ Join a list Pre-Alpha tester with a Unique item with your name |
| 22:58.10 | Taintedwisp | what epic bug? |
| 22:58.21 | egod | lol XD |
| 22:58.28 | Taintedwisp | Not bad idea. |
| 22:58.45 | Taintedwisp | Hmm i should deff Consult with my team on this. |
| 22:59.00 | Zolden | what's anchoring bug? |
| 22:59.54 | mille25 | there is an issue with "attach dialog item to dialog item" when using certain anchor combinations |
| 23:00.29 | Zolden | oh, i remember it |
| 23:01.10 | Taintedwisp | actually I think what I will do, Is wait till the project is finished, and set up teammate Specific Donations. So you can donate to each teammate, sort of a Tip for quality service |
| 23:01.12 | mille25 | egod: what project are you working on? |
| 23:01.34 | Taintedwisp | meaning you get donated to by whatever the donater liked about the map |
| 23:01.34 | egod | i think i will make just a simple video like that guys |
| 23:01.38 | egod | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/spinpunch/mars-frontier-starcraft-in-a-browser?ref=live |
| 23:01.43 | egod | check how simple is this video |
| 23:01.43 | Taintedwisp | but I would have to talk to the teammates if there will even be one |
| 23:01.48 | egod | he made 10000$ |
| 23:03.44 | egod | im working on http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/tristram/ |
| 23:03.54 | egod | from like 2010 |
| 23:06.32 | Blizz-Tenarsis | mille25: anchoring bug fixed for the patch after next big beta patch |
| 23:06.33 | egod | pledge of 100$, receice a daily e-mail of each work i did on the map |
| 23:06.44 | egod | something like that |
| 23:06.50 | mille25 | Blizz-Tenarsis: very nice. |
| 23:06.58 | Taintedwisp | What was the anchoring bug? |
| 23:07.20 | Ahli | is that a WoL patch or a HotS patch? |
| 23:07.32 | Blizz-Tenarsis | http://i.imgur.com/2nmBi.jpg |
| 23:07.40 | Blizz-Tenarsis | hots beta |
| 23:08.03 | mille25 | do you know if there will be any bugfix patches for WOL during hots-beta? |
| 23:08.10 | mille25 | or is beta the only actively supported client atm? |
| 23:08.47 | Blizz-Tenarsis | can't say at the moment |
| 23:10.15 | Taintedwisp | Tenarsis, do you know Hellion Transformation to Hellbat no longer requires an upgrade and is enabled once an Armory is built" if that means the 2nd icon has been removed? |
| 23:11.02 | Blizz-Tenarsis | no idea :| hots adds tons of assets though |
| 23:11.45 | Taintedwisp | NICE |
| 23:11.47 | Taintedwisp | Cant wait |
| 23:13.06 | Taintedwisp | Though the online melee is still seeming Iffy, some of the other stuff has really redeemed my interest in this game gotta say. Like the new UI and the Leveling system |
| 23:20.55 | Taintedwisp | Want a good laugh? read the comments on Rosie O' Donells IMDB page, its gold... |
| 23:20.55 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:25.54 | Taintedwisp | hmm |
| 23:26.03 | Taintedwisp | I gotta write this down, i just had another great event idea |
| 23:26.13 | Ahli | sc2's video output froze again :S |
| 23:26.25 | Ahli | everything black :S |
| 23:26.35 | Blizz-Tenarsis | upgrade your graphics driver :P |
| 23:27.04 | Ahli | hmmm, am I running the recent beta driver |
| 23:27.47 | Blizz-Tenarsis | freeze to black in Win7 == BSOD that no longer takes down your entire system |
| 23:28.02 | Ahli | printscreen doesn't work :S |
| 23:29.35 | Ahli | sc2's main video output froze and turned black... I still have sound, have my mouse pointer and can scroll on the map. I can't make screenshots in sc2 anymore, though. I can click something in the bottom right area |
| 23:30.03 | Ahli | hmm, but I only hear the ambience sounds |
| 23:30.21 | Taintedwisp | This is going to be great |
| 23:31.18 | Ahli | scrolling doesn't work despite the pointer showing the correct icon...hmm something important broke internally :D |
| 23:31.20 | Taintedwisp | I am going to throw in 10 or more of these events into a playlist style trigger, that fires off every 10 minutes starting at the 5 minute mark, :P so the events will be 5, 15, 25, 35, 45, 55 minutes |
| 23:31.39 | Taintedwisp | and the Bosses will be 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 , 60 minute marks |
| 23:31.47 | Taintedwisp | So every 5 minutes there will be Something happening |
| 23:31.48 | Taintedwisp | MWAHHAAH |
| 23:31.53 | Ahli | the debugger runs and gives me normal values |
| 23:31.54 | Taintedwisp | Of course this will be in a voted mode |
| 23:32.35 | Ahli | oh I can still scroll with middle mouse button |
| 23:32.49 | DeadZergling | hrrrmm, I've decided demonette needs to come back, making spell icons is going poorly to put it kindly, lol |
| 23:33.37 | Taintedwisp | What do you think of my idea deadzergling? |
| 23:33.45 | Taintedwisp | 10 bosses, and 10 events lol |
| 23:33.48 | DeadZergling | which, you have many |
| 23:33.56 | DeadZergling | let me read it over a little more closely |
| 23:34.32 | DeadZergling | what do you mean by, event |
| 23:34.50 | Taintedwisp | Things that happen at a set amount of time, but which event is going to be completely random |
| 23:35.13 | DeadZergling | good, going to scale the events with when they happen I take it? |
| 23:35.25 | Taintedwisp | yup |
| 23:35.32 | Taintedwisp | Some will help everyone, some will hurt everyone |
| 23:38.39 | DeadZergling | finally decided on the last necro ability, bomb |
| 23:38.54 | DeadZergling | be a colonist female w/ spider mine attachments all over |
| 23:39.45 | Taintedwisp | AWW man, I am really going to make these events screw with the players LOL |
| 23:39.53 | Taintedwisp | Some are going to be borderline trolling |
| 23:40.07 | Taintedwisp | Base Swap - Honestly I dunno if this one would work, But switches Which base belongs to each player.(Only switches between teammates)Does not move defenses |
| 23:40.09 | Taintedwisp | LOL |
| 23:40.22 | Triceron | oh just read backlog stuff |
| 23:40.28 | Taintedwisp | So they switch which lane is below their Base.. haahaha |
| 23:40.49 | Triceron | I actually model professionally, and learned modelling at a private institution for 2 yrs |
| 23:41.11 | Taintedwisp | damn trice i just thought you picked it up one day and started learning it over time |
| 23:41.21 | Triceron | hell no |
| 23:41.41 | Triceron | that's why i say, this is an expensive hobby. not everyone can do what I do |
| 23:41.52 | Taintedwisp | You make any models for anything other then Sc2? You should share some screens :P |
| 23:42.21 | Triceron | most of my professional work has been cartoons really |
| 23:42.30 | Triceron | that's why i do this as a hobby |
| 23:42.36 | Taintedwisp | ahhh |
| 23:42.45 | Taintedwisp | Any cartoons I might have seen? |
| 23:42.51 | Triceron | um |
| 23:42.59 | Zolden | Triceron, I'd like to know your modeller opinion about the model I mad using my new aquired skill of normal map creating :) |
| 23:43.02 | Triceron | there was one on fox a few years bac, Viva Pinata |
| 23:43.12 | Zolden | *made |
| 23:43.22 | Taintedwisp | I remember that show |
| 23:43.39 | Triceron | sure, link me up Zolden |
| 23:43.39 | Zolden | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/32/436/1st_turret_2.jpg |
| 23:43.40 | Zolden | this one |
| 23:43.41 | Taintedwisp | Used to come on after yu gi oh in 05 or 04 |
| 23:44.00 | Triceron | haha nice, is that team colored? |
| 23:44.06 | Triceron | yeah, it was very... bright :P |
| 23:44.11 | Zolden | yup |
| 23:44.11 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:44.14 | Triceron | so much color on that show |
| 23:44.52 | Triceron | I think the funniest thing about working on that show was one of the modellers was this total death metal headbanger guy |
| 23:45.16 | Triceron | and he had like the whole long hair, black tshirts, split goatee thing going on |
| 23:45.43 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:45.43 | Triceron | and you'd hear some of his death metal playing thorugh his headphones |
| 23:45.56 | Triceron | and all the while you're watching him model these cute pinata characters |
| 23:46.02 | Taintedwisp | meta does = awesomeness |
| 23:46.03 | Cheekything | O_o did we get more bliz devs in the last week? |
| 23:46.19 | Ahli | no |
| 23:47.11 | Cheekything | fair enough so whats going on? |
| 23:47.33 | Taintedwisp | Well deadzergling you can make the remaining 12 for my heroes if you want |
| 23:47.42 | Taintedwisp | Might be 14 actually |
| 23:47.59 | Taintedwisp | LAWL |
| 23:48.05 | Taintedwisp | You can do it... i BELIEVE!!!! |
| 23:48.18 | Taintedwisp | I BELIEVE IN YOU ZERGLING GET TO MY ABILITIES!!! |
| 23:48.21 | Taintedwisp | hahah |
| 23:48.57 | DeadZergling | sure, in a couple years |
| 23:49.02 | Taintedwisp | Actually I pretty much understand what I have to do in my abilities now anyways, for the most parts |
| 23:49.06 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 23:49.19 | DeadZergling | don't underestimate the amount of time/energy newborn twins can take out of you |
| 23:49.27 | Taintedwisp | There are a few that confuse me still, but those shouldnt be too difficult |
| 23:49.35 | Taintedwisp | AHHHH |
| 23:49.44 | Taintedwisp | < No Kids, No time soon haha |
| 23:49.55 | Taintedwisp | i dont plan on having kids till a minimum of 26 years old |
| 23:50.04 | Taintedwisp | No marriage till a minimum of 24 |
| 23:50.13 | Zolden | oh, I'd never share with anyone a duty to create the abilities, it's one of the funniest things, why do you do it Tainted! |
| 23:50.14 | Taintedwisp | 2 things I have decided 100% |
| 23:50.29 | Taintedwisp | HAHAH zolden |
| 23:50.47 | Taintedwisp | I love creating the actors, and doing the ideas but i hate making them function correctly |
| 23:50.48 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:50.57 | Taintedwisp | HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE |
| 23:51.23 | Zolden | oh, it's the soul of mapping, you'll learn it one day and feel happy |
| 23:52.54 | Ahli | oh... there is a diagonal grid |
| 23:53.36 | DeadZergling | odd you say that, is the actors I hate |
| 23:53.44 | DeadZergling | making abilities themselves are easy, lol |
| 23:55.01 | Taintedwisp | what hate is the sould of mapping? I agree haha |
| 23:55.20 | Taintedwisp | I love the actors, Deadzergling if you want Ill make a few actors for you, you make a few abilities for me ahahaha |
| 23:55.33 | Taintedwisp | Well I love the actors when it doesnt Include Site Operations |
| 23:55.33 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:55.36 | DeadZergling | actors aren't so bad though, my purest loathing, comes when you bring up the topic of terraining |
| 23:55.47 | Taintedwisp | Whats wrong with terraining |
| 23:56.01 | DeadZergling | takes a stupid long amount of time just to make a map look pretty |
| 23:56.24 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skyMqXs1D5A < Me terrain |
| 23:56.27 | DeadZergling | makes me miss doom 2 mapping, lol |
| 23:56.52 | DeadZergling | make some boxes, putem together, texture the walls, put in a few doors |
| 23:56.53 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 23:56.55 | DeadZergling | good to go, lol |
| 23:57.13 | Ahli | hmmm... broke the editor's terrain module's terrain rendering area, too... |
| 23:57.15 | Taintedwisp | Actually Our Terrain editor is almost Exactly like the UDK's Terrain editor, From what I saw when I tried out the udk |
| 23:58.00 | DeadZergling | and terraining gets even worse when you want the terrain to actually be functional. |
| 23:58.18 | Taintedwisp | :D |
| 23:58.22 | DeadZergling | of course my map is a bit weird that way, I force people to beat a boss to proceed further |
| 23:58.26 | Taintedwisp | What do you mean Functional? |
| 23:58.41 | Taintedwisp | Actually moving, or working as far as the maps purposes |
| 23:58.50 | DeadZergling | some of both |
| 23:58.54 | Zolden | green beacons are annoying |
| 23:59.00 | Zolden | too much of them |
| 23:59.10 | Ahli | ** |
| 23:59.21 | DeadZergling | Like making sure some areas are impassable, can't be teleported through |
| 23:59.23 | DeadZergling | that sort of thing |
| 23:59.25 | Ahli | *downgrading drivers* :D |
| 23:59.45 | Zolden | pooping |
| 23:59.47 | Taintedwisp | Hmm This is interesting I kind of agree with it though |
| 23:59.50 | Taintedwisp | 2. A complaint with arcade is that newer maps that are actually worth playing are rarely featured. Maybe give people rewards for map testing and reviewing? |
| 23:59.55 | Zolden | jsut tested the /me command |
