| 00:00.46 | Saeris1 | well Fenix, the problem is that if you're keeping track of kills through a variable, the only way to try and kill is is on unit death. doing a periodic check won't work for what you're trying to do as far as i'm aware |
| 00:01.03 | Tinkerballa | I'm so bored :( |
| 00:01.49 | Saeris1 | for what you want to do Crypt, it'd be fairly complex to do it any other way, I think |
| 00:02.10 | Saeris1 | spawning a group of units and ordering them to attack a point or unit is easy |
| 00:02.43 | Saeris1 | but to have the AI control those units to intellegently seek out targets continously is much more difficult if you aren't using the AI triggers |
| 00:02.52 | Saeris1 | but, I can't help you there |
| 00:03.05 | Fenix | well. Maybe something like if var <= number of kills -10, then set var +10.... um |
| 00:03.20 | Tinkerballa | really sucks not having a map project to work on :( |
| 00:04.18 | Saeris1 | tinker without any examples of your work, I wouldn't know whether or not you'd be able to help me on my project |
| 00:06.45 | Fenix | If Kills-P1 <= ((Player 1 Enemy Units Killed score) - 10) Then: Variable - Set Kills-P1 = (Kills-P1 + 10) ; Player - Modify player 1 Minerals: Add 1 |
| 00:06.55 | Fenix | this would work ever sec without event? |
| 00:07.00 | Fenix | in a while loop |
| 00:07.46 | Fenix | it would keep adding the kills to the var until the maximum value |
| 00:07.54 | Fenix | which i dont think i will get to |
| 00:08.58 | Saeris1 | so what happens when Player 1 Enemy Units Killed score equals 20? 35? 78? etc? |
| 00:09.04 | Saeris1 | that score only counts up |
| 00:09.23 | Saeris1 | and it doesn't account for players killing their own units |
| 00:09.35 | Saeris1 | because every kill made by the player is added to that score |
| 00:09.39 | Saeris1 | regardless of the target |
| 00:10.25 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gC16lIUzHJE |
| 00:10.29 | Saeris1 | that's another thing you would have to check every time a unit is killed |
| 00:11.54 | Fenix | lets say Kills-P1 = 5. So the P1 have 5 kills. If 5 <= ((P1 Enemy units killed score) -10) [this means until 5 is <= at the kill score, it will do nothing, so if the score is 10, it will do nothing, if it's 15 or more, 5 <= 16-10 so it will add 10 kills to the var and do the other actions |
| 00:12.25 | Tinkerballa | :( |
| 00:13.22 | Fenix | and I only awnt enemy unit kilsl |
| 00:13.35 | Fenix | why would i count as kill killing his own units |
| 00:13.37 | Fenix | haha |
| 00:15.35 | Saeris1 | my mistake on the score |
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| 00:16.24 | tordy | hello |
| 00:16.28 | Saeris1 | but, go ahead and try your method. i've told you what I've found to work best |
| 00:21.18 | Tinkerballa | I'm so bored :( |
| 00:26.20 | Fenix | well, my trigger seems to work =D ... but broodling doesn't count as kill -_- |
| 00:27.47 | Fenix | got it *demoniac smile* |
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| 00:34.43 | Fenix | is there any way to do Move instantly from this location to this location? |
| 00:35.21 | Fenix | i guess in a pick eatch unit in region? |
| 00:36.06 | Fenix | eh.. doesn't existe. |
| 00:36.37 | Fenix | nvm |
| 00:38.59 | ckSynergy | uhhhh |
| 00:39.03 | ckSynergy | what? |
| 00:39.15 | ckSynergy | it exists lol |
| 00:43.01 | Taintedwisp | lol yeah you just need to make a Teleporter, Unit enters Region, then Action, Move unit to Point or region i think |
| 00:46.32 | DeadZergling | forget if it liked moving to a region, but it has 0 issues moving to a point |
| 00:49.52 | Taintedwisp | I'm no triggerer but I did do that |
| 00:51.05 | DeadZergling | remember when I first started w/ the trigger editor, was quite annoyed I couldn't create units at a region |
| 00:51.11 | DeadZergling | but had to use a point instead |
| 00:52.42 | ckSynergy | lol |
| 00:52.44 | ckSynergy | whyyyy |
| 00:53.02 | DeadZergling | well, in the brood war editor, you always created units at a region |
| 00:53.11 | ckSynergy | ah |
| 00:53.11 | DeadZergling | points didn't exist for that |
| 00:53.31 | DeadZergling | think they had a different word for region back then too, lol |
| 00:53.37 | DeadZergling | location i think it was |
| 00:57.50 | DeadZergling | Needless to say, I have no problem feeling sympathy for anyone who comes straight from the brood war editor to the SC2 one |
| 00:58.50 | Tinkerballa | I'm so bored :( |
| 00:59.41 | DeadZergling | seems to happen often for you, considered starting on something new? |
| 00:59.57 | Ahli | it was location, yes |
| 01:00.38 | Tinkerballa | i have a project just unable to work on it |
| 01:00.38 | Fenix | well DeadZergling, i come straight from broodwar |
| 01:01.49 | Fenix | first thing I did in the editor my the game frezee >.< |
| 01:01.52 | Fenix | for sc2 |
| 01:02.09 | DeadZergling | First thing I did with the editor, the data editor specifically |
| 01:02.13 | DeadZergling | was try to figure it out at all |
| 01:02.18 | Fenix | haha |
| 01:02.19 | Fenix | ya |
| 01:02.20 | DeadZergling | after about an hour I said #%#% this |
| 01:02.26 | Fenix | i still dont understand much |
| 01:02.33 | DeadZergling | a month later I came back to it, lol |
| 01:02.37 | Fenix | ya |
| 01:02.56 | DeadZergling | it is ridiculously more involved than the brood war editor ever was |
| 01:03.10 | Fenix | same thing for me but with the projects in general... you work hard 1 or 2 days, than your saturated you just cant continute... you wait a week or mroe and then you come bacl |
| 01:03.32 | DeadZergling | you can do so much more too, but you pay a price for that, lol |
| 01:03.37 | Fenix | even with the MPQ editor to modify the whole starcraft 1 it is not enough compared to sc2 editor |
| 01:03.48 | Ahli | my first move was to figure out triggers after painting stuff in terrain |
| 01:04.40 | DeadZergling | ah, I decided triggers was a bad road to take, focused on data a ton first several months |
| 01:04.43 | Fenix | the first thing i did is actually a trigger... a minimap ping... that repeated so fast in a loop that made the game frezee (there was no error at that moment i think) |
| 01:04.45 | DeadZergling | decided damn it, I will figure this out, lol |
| 01:05.20 | Tinkerballa | I'm so bored :( |
| 01:05.35 | Fenix | i guess we all wish to have the knowledge of the developpers from Blizz haha |
| 01:05.36 | DeadZergling | why are you unable to work on your project tinker? |
| 01:06.01 | DeadZergling | oh i dunno, ignorance can be fun too |
| 01:06.07 | DeadZergling | makes for fun movies like die hard 4 |
| 01:06.12 | DeadZergling | where you can hack anything |
| 01:06.16 | Fenix | RAINBOW ARHONC all the way =D |
| 01:06.19 | Tinkerballa | need custom animations |
| 01:06.28 | Fenix | archon* |
| 01:06.41 | Tinkerballa | and i have no one to do such a thing for me |
| 01:06.52 | DeadZergling | could start figuring it for yourself |
| 01:07.06 | Tinkerballa | I'm not an animator |
| 01:07.17 | Fenix | just wondering what is the max value of an int? |
| 01:07.19 | Vailreth | You could learn to be one.. |
| 01:07.45 | Tinkerballa | sure Vailreth, give me $4000 for 3ds max then |
| 01:07.59 | Fenix | lol, i want half that to get a new comp >.< |
| 01:08.02 | DeadZergling | doesn't blender have support for sc2 models now? |
| 01:08.12 | Fenix | that would be awesome O.O |
| 01:08.16 | Vailreth | yes it does for animation purposes |
| 01:08.17 | DeadZergling | for importing/exporting |
| 01:08.38 | Vailreth | im not sure if it can handle ribbons or some other advanced things |
| 01:08.40 | Vailreth | yet |
| 01:09.01 | DeadZergling | got me dude, 2d is as far as my art is ever gonna go I think |
| 01:09.07 | DeadZergling | I get too dizzy working in 3d, lol |
| 01:09.15 | Fenix | haha |
| 01:09.39 | Fenix | i wonder if someone is working on recreating Minecraft in Starcraft xD |
| 01:10.00 | ckSynergy | someone is |
| 01:10.05 | ckSynergy | craftcraft |
| 01:11.19 | DeadZergling | wonder if anyone has enough of a deathwish to make farmcraft |
| 01:11.21 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 01:12.00 | Fenix | any vid of minecraft/starcraft? |
| 01:13.57 | Fenix | um, how long does it takes to launch a nuke? |
| 01:14.43 | Vailreth | as a zerg i dont think it takes long enough |
| 01:14.48 | Fenix | lol |
| 01:15.01 | Fenix | any more specefic value? xD |
| 01:16.21 | Vailreth | sorry no |
| 01:19.39 | Fenix | nuke persistent; effect: initial delay: 8,75 Ghost ability Nuclear Strike; Stats finish time: 2.5.... So i guess it's 10 sec... could it be? |
| 01:19.47 | Tinkerballa | I'm so bored :( |
| 01:20.09 | Fenix | go play Baneling Bubble on NA. This is so freackign awesome |
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| 01:20.44 | Vailreth | or get blender, the importer, learn to animate , and export the m3a files |
| 01:20.56 | Triceron | oh him again? |
| 01:21.05 | Ahli | the button says 20 seconds I think |
| 01:21.17 | Vailreth | diffreny name but i think its the same guy |
| 01:21.35 | Triceron | yeah that's who I figured it was |
| 01:25.10 | Fenix | yup 20 sec |
| 01:30.06 | Tinkerballa | really sucks not having a map project to work on :( |
| 01:30.25 | DeadZergling | so create one |
| 01:30.39 | Tinkerballa | need an animator |
| 01:31.22 | DeadZergling | so become one, sc2mapster is great about pointing in the right direction, helping people past brick walls |
| 01:31.34 | Triceron | I really wish the ignore feature worked |
| 01:31.49 | DeadZergling | but I don't think anyone is going to be an animator so you don't have to be |
| 01:32.00 | DeadZergling | unless you pay them, lol |
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| 01:38.44 | Fenix | what is the maximum number of array? |
| 01:39.38 | Ahli | it's pretty high I think |
| 01:39.45 | Fenix | ok |
| 01:40.53 | Fenix | can you store mutiple units in 1 array, like, I want to do multiple random groups of units. Like 3 marine 1 medic, 2 tanks, w/e... And I'd like to choose a random array and create the units that are in it |
| 01:41.15 | Fenix | oh well. i might do it another way.. |
| 01:41.23 | Fenix | i do love if then else..... xD |
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| 02:00.16 | DeadZergling | think i'd prefer to have the option of if as well, without the stupid trailing else |
| 02:00.59 | DeadZergling | way they have their gui versions of conditionals and loops set up, most the time I just go straight for custom script |
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| 02:33.37 | Birdie | what's the SC2mapster channel on bnet now? |
| 02:33.53 | Birdie | Ohai sixen, ahli |
| 02:33.56 | Birdie | It's Jack :D |
| 02:34.05 | Ahli | I know, hi jack |
| 02:34.23 | Ahli | testing ts2 again? ;D |
| 02:34.30 | Birdie | not atm, got lots of stuff to do |
| 02:34.39 | Birdie | like finish setting up my PC and finding a new keyboard |
| 02:34.41 | Birdie | which reminds me, brb |
| 03:09.31 | Fenix | in a while loop, if the condition are true the actions will execute, then if the condition are false, do I have to start the loop again or it should constantly be looking for when it's true until a break? |
| 03:22.50 | Fenix | kill me someone i hate slow computer >.< |
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| 04:26.06 | Fenix | Is anyone here? If you add a unit to a unit group and this unit dies, is the unit group empty? |
| 04:26.26 | Fenix | nvm i got the solution |
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| 05:51.55 | DeadZergling | Define laziness: being upset that tab isn't autofinishing your words at all times, lol |
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| 05:54.33 | XplosionGuy | Anyone know how the dark templar has random alterations with the unit? |
| 05:54.48 | XplosionGuy | model alterations |
| 05:54.51 | Taintedwisp | models tab |
| 05:54.57 | Taintedwisp | and Variations |
| 05:55.08 | Taintedwisp | Same as doodads I would imagine |
| 05:55.35 | DeadZergling | is the same for civilians, infested terrans, etc |
| 05:55.37 | Taintedwisp | They have multiple models stored in 1 .m3 file, so you can get to them using the Variations |
| 05:55.49 | DeadZergling | what youll want to do to pick a specific one xplosionguy |
| 05:55.54 | DeadZergling | is just use a modelswap event in the actor |
| 05:56.20 | Taintedwisp | or preplace, Preplacing also gives the same |
| 05:56.24 | XplosionGuy | Is that what the dark templar does? |
| 05:56.37 | Taintedwisp | I would imagine |
| 05:56.41 | DeadZergling | yea tainted, but i like being able to have more control, lol |
| 05:56.47 | DeadZergling | is examples of that all over xplosion |
| 05:56.48 | XplosionGuy | whats preplacing? |
| 05:56.56 | DeadZergling | he means placing it in the terrain editor |
| 05:57.03 | DeadZergling | to get the one you want |
| 05:57.31 | XplosionGuy | I don't understand |
| 05:57.36 | DeadZergling | okay |
| 05:57.47 | DeadZergling | in your terrain editor, you've placed trees before, right? |
| 05:58.33 | DeadZergling | as you do, you should notice that you get varying tree styles/sizes |
| 05:58.35 | XplosionGuy | Yeah, the models are random. But, how do I manipulate that, as in, if I wanted it to NOT be random. |
| 05:58.42 | DeadZergling | right |
| 05:58.45 | DeadZergling | what he is saying is |
| 05:58.48 | DeadZergling | you could place it ahead of time |
| 05:58.52 | DeadZergling | ensuring it is the type you want |
| 05:58.58 | DeadZergling | and just use that one |
| 05:59.00 | XplosionGuy | I see |
| 05:59.09 | DeadZergling | I'm not a fan of having to do stuff like that |
| 05:59.15 | DeadZergling | so I just use a modelswap event in my actor |
| 05:59.19 | DeadZergling | to force it to use a certain one |
| 05:59.38 | XplosionGuy | Is that what the dark templar does? |
| 06:00.18 | DeadZergling | no |
| 06:00.26 | DeadZergling | he uses an actor that has 2 variations |
| 06:00.38 | DeadZergling | what im saying is, you can use modelswap |
| 06:00.43 | DeadZergling | to force it to use a certain variation |
| 06:01.57 | DeadZergling | i can explain further if you want to try that out |
| 06:02.05 | XplosionGuy | Sure |
| 06:02.13 | DeadZergling | okay, are you at your dark templar actor? |
| 06:02.27 | XplosionGuy | Be specific plz |
| 06:02.39 | DeadZergling | the unit actor for the dark templar |
| 06:02.53 | DeadZergling | under the actors tab |
| 06:03.01 | XplosionGuy | on the map? in the data editor? |
| 06:03.02 | DeadZergling | in the data editor |
| 06:03.25 | XplosionGuy | I am |
| 06:03.28 | DeadZergling | okay |
| 06:03.32 | DeadZergling | can you open up his events |
| 06:03.52 | DeadZergling | will be Event: Events |
| 06:04.00 | XplosionGuy | yep |
| 06:04.01 | DeadZergling | okay |
| 06:04.12 | DeadZergling | now add an event |
| 06:04.19 | DeadZergling | make it of type actor creation |
| 06:04.42 | DeadZergling | make the msg type be model swap |
| 06:04.56 | DeadZergling | then pick whatever model you like |
| 06:05.06 | DeadZergling | and whatever variation you like |
| 06:05.17 | DeadZergling | you could force him to always be a medic if you wanted |
| 06:05.18 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 06:05.27 | XplosionGuy | msg type? |
| 06:05.56 | DeadZergling | yea, is the line right below |
| 06:06.01 | DeadZergling | the event you just made |
| 06:06.15 | XplosionGuy | I yeah i got it |
| 06:06.34 | DeadZergling | enjoy, is actually a pretty handy little event there |
| 06:06.42 | DeadZergling | can morph the unit to be whatever you want |
| 06:07.13 | XplosionGuy | Yeah it is, but I want to have it to where he only comes up as one of the dark templar models |
| 06:07.20 | DeadZergling | right |
| 06:07.24 | DeadZergling | so pick dark templar model |
| 06:07.30 | XplosionGuy | I will want that later. |
| 06:07.31 | DeadZergling | im not sure if you want variation 0 or 1 |
| 06:07.37 | DeadZergling | try 0 |
| 06:07.42 | DeadZergling | if that one is wrong, just change it to 1 |
| 06:08.05 | Taintedwisp | Theres an easier way.... |
| 06:08.06 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 06:08.17 | DeadZergling | it is a 20 second edit tainted |
| 06:08.18 | Taintedwisp | Go to the model tab and erase the variations you dopnt wan t |
| 06:08.19 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 06:08.26 | Taintedwisp | mines 10 second |
| 06:08.26 | DeadZergling | doesn't get much easier than that :P |
| 06:08.49 | XplosionGuy | lol. =P |
| 06:08.50 | Taintedwisp | both work good though |
| 06:08.54 | Vailreth | good morning folks |
| 06:08.58 | Taintedwisp | and in all honestly his is better |
| 06:09.04 | Taintedwisp | MORNING WHERE YOU AT VAILREHT!!! |
| 06:09.05 | Taintedwisp | kik |
| 06:09.14 | Taintedwisp | its 2 am here, shoul dbe like midnight there |
| 06:09.33 | Vailreth | no its 1 am |
| 06:09.48 | XplosionGuy | yep |
| 06:09.52 | DeadZergling | 1 am = morning, so fair enough for vailreth to say that, lol |
| 06:10.08 | Taintedwisp | you must be much closer to the east side of texas then the west |
| 06:10.51 | Vailreth | last i checked all of texas was in the same time zone US Central |
| 06:11.43 | Taintedwisp | haha, for somereason I always think of it like they are strait lines |
| 06:11.47 | Taintedwisp | "P |
| 06:11.54 | Vailreth | but i do feel sorry for those people who live on time zone borders and half the clocks in the house say one time and the others and hour earlier or later |
| 06:12.12 | XplosionGuy | LOL |
| 06:12.43 | Vailreth | "honey what time is it?" " which room are you in?:" |
| 06:13.16 | DeadZergling | I seriously doubt any of them take it that seriously |
| 06:13.19 | XplosionGuy | Or how about the people that live on one side, and work on another. So while their clock says it's 5am it's 6am where they work.... |
| 06:13.26 | XplosionGuy | shivers |
| 06:13.35 | DeadZergling | that situation is more likely |
| 06:13.55 | XplosionGuy | LOL |
| 06:14.05 | DeadZergling | no one would keep different times for different parts of their house |
| 06:14.12 | XplosionGuy | @ Vailreth ^ |
| 06:14.27 | XplosionGuy | You never know. |
| 06:14.28 | Vailreth | i have a clock that automatically sets its self to teh correct time for its geograpical location |
| 06:14.41 | XplosionGuy | Thats what I was thinking |
| 06:14.51 | Vailreth | cost me fifty bucks but it has a radio so eh |
| 06:16.24 | XplosionGuy | What does it look like? |
| 06:17.03 | Vailreth | a normal blue lit digital clock |
| 06:17.29 | Vailreth | ive dropped it a few times so the numbers are dying but eh |
| 06:17.31 | XplosionGuy | 2 speakers on the sides on the front? |
| 06:17.52 | XplosionGuy | volume on the right side? |
| 06:18.04 | XplosionGuy | cd player on the top? |
| 06:18.12 | Vailreth | no cd player |
| 06:19.12 | XplosionGuy | http://www.amazon.com/Emerson-CKD5811-SmartSet-Digital-Touchless/dp/B0015Q4LPI/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1349936341&sr=8-10&keywords=emerson+research+smartset+alarm+clock |
| 06:19.18 | XplosionGuy | That's the one I have |
| 06:19.33 | XplosionGuy | Had it for like 8 years now I think. |
| 06:21.51 | DeadZergling | had to get a new alarm clock recently myself |
| 06:22.02 | DeadZergling | was feeling cheap and got it at a thrift store |
| 06:22.12 | DeadZergling | is crazy really, alarm clocks now cost more than dvd players, lol |
| 06:23.25 | XplosionGuy | lol |
| 06:23.37 | XplosionGuy | times have changed... =/ |
| 06:24.02 | DeadZergling | but got a huge display alarm w/ 2 alarms for 8 $ |
| 06:24.11 | DeadZergling | good to hit thrift for things like that |
| 06:25.04 | Taintedwisp | My alarm clock is onlineclock.com..... cause im broke haha |
| 06:25.12 | Vailreth | heh |
| 06:25.23 | DeadZergling | what, your computer wakes you uP? |
| 06:25.30 | Taintedwisp | it comes with features such as... sounding like a duck.. |
| 06:25.32 | Taintedwisp | lol\ |
| 06:25.40 | DeadZergling | what a waste of cpu/video/power, lol |
| 06:25.48 | DeadZergling | you'd save money getting a cheap one |
| 06:26.10 | Taintedwisp | http://onlineclock.net/ |
| 06:26.17 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 06:26.32 | Taintedwisp | The screen turns off, and only one processor runs. :P |
| 06:26.40 | DeadZergling | free or not, it takes power, wears on your machine |
| 06:26.48 | Taintedwisp | Its not very loud though |
| 06:27.21 | Taintedwisp | I use my computer for music while i am going to sleep too... |
| 06:27.22 | Taintedwisp | kik |
| 06:27.31 | XplosionGuy | lol |
| 06:27.36 | Taintedwisp | 'i cnat sleep in the silence |
| 06:27.39 | DeadZergling | in your relaxing cardboard bed no doubt |
| 06:27.59 | Taintedwisp | no this bed is closer to concrete... atleast thats how it feels haha |
| 06:28.14 | Taintedwisp | Meh, i have lived in worse... |
| 06:28.35 | Taintedwisp | I have lived in a brick house with no insulation during the largest snowstorm in NC... |
| 06:28.48 | Taintedwisp | 3 ft of snow... -5 F weather |
| 06:29.00 | DeadZergling | thought you rednecks had thick fur, lol |
| 06:29.15 | Taintedwisp | So i dont mind living back with my mom in the suberbs.... lol |
| 06:29.27 | DeadZergling | no, imagine not |
| 06:29.33 | DeadZergling | cold > hot |
| 06:29.40 | DeadZergling | thuogh |
| 06:29.43 | Taintedwisp | Meh, Say what you will about rednecks, but they are about the nicest people you would ever meet |
| 06:29.50 | DeadZergling | can always warm up, not so easy to cool down |
| 06:29.58 | XplosionGuy | LOL |
| 06:30.05 | Taintedwisp | this is NC |
| 06:30.21 | DeadZergling | naw, I got no problem with rednecks |
| 06:30.23 | Taintedwisp | It was hot too.... 96-102 F in the summer, all we had was a Box Fan... lol |
| 06:30.32 | DeadZergling | I even break out the word yall on occasion |
| 06:30.46 | DeadZergling | or is that more a southern thing |
| 06:30.49 | DeadZergling | then a redneck thing |
| 06:30.55 | Taintedwisp | Yall and Aint is recognized by Webster |
| 06:30.57 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 06:31.13 | DeadZergling | yea, I got no problem w/ yall |
| 06:31.21 | Taintedwisp | skreet and Compruter(hood langauge) is not, Nor is Crick(Yankee talk) or Worsh |
| 06:31.23 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 06:31.25 | DeadZergling | is english's fault for not having a plural form of you in the first place |
| 06:31.52 | Taintedwisp | Actaully its y'all lol |
| 06:32.00 | XplosionGuy | Here's a good question: Would you rather freeze to death or burn to death? |
| 06:32.11 | DeadZergling | burn, definitely |
| 06:32.13 | DeadZergling | be over quick |
| 06:32.20 | DeadZergling | freeze could take a long time |
| 06:32.26 | XplosionGuy | You sure about that? |
| 06:32.44 | Vailreth | freeze |
| 06:32.53 | XplosionGuy | What if both took 1 hour? |
| 06:32.57 | Taintedwisp | Both would be the same, The ice would feel like fire so whats the difference, Though In all actuality in ideal freezing you would slowly fall into sleep and die |
| 06:33.06 | DeadZergling | freeze then, but that is unlike freezing at all |
| 06:33.11 | DeadZergling | errrmm, burning |
| 06:33.25 | XplosionGuy | shivers |
| 06:33.30 | DeadZergling | if a fire isn't growing, fast |
| 06:33.35 | DeadZergling | it dies |
| 06:33.55 | DeadZergling | you probably thinking sci-fi freezing |
| 06:34.02 | Taintedwisp | I prefer to die like a man... Dieing on the 72 ounce stake challenge |
| 06:34.04 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 06:34.06 | DeadZergling | like how boris/wesley snipes gets frozen |
| 06:34.34 | Taintedwisp | steak* |
| 06:35.44 | DeadZergling | lol, have your turf and turf eh tainted? |
| 06:35.46 | XplosionGuy | lol |
| 06:36.44 | XplosionGuy | How about this: If a tree falls in a forest and there is no one there to hear it, does it make a sound? |
| 06:37.12 | Vailreth | depends on your definition of reality |
| 06:37.24 | Vailreth | its like shrodiners Logger... |
| 06:37.27 | XplosionGuy | umm... |
| 06:38.04 | XplosionGuy | "Schrodinger" you mean? |
| 06:38.11 | Vailreth | yeah |
| 06:40.12 | Vailreth | but if for instance your definition of reality is as a contsant that always exists out side of the human ability to observe it, then yes it makes a sound. How ever if your definition of reality is that which can beobserved and there for confirmed then No it doesnt make a sound |
| 06:42.21 | Vailreth | and any tool that enables a person to listen to a location during or after an event counts as them observing the event as if in personal and there for the same two deffinitions still aply |
| 06:43.40 | Vailreth | what we precive as a concrete reality could truly be a mere comunal representation of an infintly maluable substance |
| 06:43.58 | XplosionGuy | So you're saying that it depends on weather things exist if a living thing is around it? |
| 06:44.21 | Vailreth | not livingm thinking |
| 06:44.40 | Vailreth | and aware |
| 06:45.17 | Vailreth | also not near but able to observe. |
| 06:46.41 | Vailreth | but if observation is the key to something being real it is also the key to making something unreal,. as the number of observers increases the stability of any given object or especially and event as reality decreases |
| 06:47.00 | XplosionGuy | That's a cool thought, but typically things exist weather conscious beings are around it or not, so it still stirs the question weather it makes a sound. It's more of: Does sound need a target to BE sound? Or does it exist without something to hear it. |
| 06:47.19 | DeadZergling | yea, that kind of logic is funny to think about |
| 06:47.29 | DeadZergling | atoms haven't existed until the last century or two |
| 06:47.35 | DeadZergling | if you think about it that way |
| 06:47.47 | XplosionGuy | Yeah. Haha. |
| 06:47.54 | DeadZergling | lucky we didn't fly apart |
| 06:48.54 | Vailreth | thats like saying legos only exist when not put together into anything |
| 06:49.09 | Vailreth | but this is tricky |
| 06:49.18 | ckSynergy | woot almost done |
| 06:49.27 | XplosionGuy | with what? |
| 06:49.29 | DeadZergling | grats, don't forget to flush when you are done |
| 06:49.38 | ckSynergy | lol |
| 06:49.42 | ckSynergy | almost done with the mod |
| 06:49.52 | ckSynergy | ive been working on the past 8 months |
| 06:49.52 | XplosionGuy | what mod? |
| 06:49.56 | DeadZergling | oh, even better than a big 2 |
| 06:50.08 | XplosionGuy | hahaha |
| 06:50.25 | Vailreth | i will never finish my mod |
| 06:50.27 | DeadZergling | nice ck, wish I could say that |
| 06:50.50 | Vailreth | mainly because the only work i do on it is to add something new ...>.> |
| 06:52.50 | ckSynergy | heh |
| 06:53.11 | Vailreth | i really need to go back and optimize and finish my link gun infantry |
| 06:54.24 | XplosionGuy | cksynergy what are you about to finish? |
| 06:56.27 | DeadZergling | I liked my guess of what he was about to finish better |
| 06:56.29 | DeadZergling | lol |
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| 06:57.25 | Vailreth | later folks |
| 06:57.31 | DeadZergling | later vail |
| 06:58.56 | ckSynergy | a mod |
| 06:59.01 | ckSynergy | I dont want to discuss right now |
| 06:59.12 | ckSynergy | doing a release in 2 days and I still have a lot of work to do |
| 06:59.27 | DeadZergling | good luck on that ck |
| 07:00.08 | DeadZergling | like seriously, I know how little things can keep popping up, lol |
| 07:01.05 | XplosionGuy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tvCyywSIsNU |
| 07:01.07 | XplosionGuy | YEAH! |
| 07:01.13 | XplosionGuy | So awesome. |
| 07:04.31 | ckSynergy | thx dz |
| 07:13.24 | XplosionGuy | why would you mention it if you didn't want to talk about it? =.= |
| 07:14.18 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gC16lIUzHJE |
| 07:14.24 | Taintedwisp | way cooler |
| 07:14.45 | Taintedwisp | well peace out |
| 07:16.51 | ckSynergy | ok, im dead tired, need help |
| 07:17.01 | ckSynergy | whats the opposite of player from player group? |
| 07:17.15 | ckSynergy | like, player 1 from player group x returns an actual player value |
| 07:17.27 | XplosionGuy | =.= |
| 07:17.29 | ckSynergy | wait... nevermind |
| 07:17.33 | ckSynergy | I have to loop |
| 07:17.55 | ckSynergy | dont I? |
| 07:20.06 | XplosionGuy | =.= |
| 07:22.55 | ckSynergy | you know you're tired when basic knowledge flies right out the window lol |
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| 09:36.51 | Kueken | damn typos |
| 09:37.05 | Kueken | wanted to write Hello-ween |
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| 13:36.35 | Cheekything | Hey anyone remember how to stop buildings placing on themselves I did the thing from http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/terrain/11919-building-on-ramps/ but I remember there was something else I need to do i just cant remember |
| 13:40.09 | Ahli | building's placement footprint's placement layer? |
| 13:40.57 | Cheekything | it's the same footprint |
| 13:41.00 | Cheekything | should it not be |
| 13:41.40 | Ahli | it can be the same just fine, I think. The placement layer has flags and areas where to check for what to be able to place the footprint there |
| 13:41.54 | Ahli | and then it applies its own apply footprint layer |
| 13:42.07 | Ahli | I think |
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| 13:45.02 | Cheekything | ok on placement apply I have Ground - No Spawn selected |
| 13:45.15 | Cheekything | as invalid |
| 13:45.37 | Cheekything | and on check it's creep, ground - no spawn and masked check for invalid |
| 13:45.47 | Cheekything | which allows me to place on a ram |
| 13:45.54 | Cheekything | but it shouldn't place on itself :/ |
| 13:49.12 | Cheekything | erg the on apply needs the nobuild option |
| 13:50.10 | Ahli | is the building footprint fine in general? |
| 13:50.16 | Ahli | so not on the ramp? |
| 13:50.28 | Cheekything | it worked on the ramp |
| 13:50.40 | Cheekything | but it allowed the buildigns to be put on top on another building |
| 13:52.08 | Cheekything | well i hope this works |
| 13:53.23 | Cheekything | nope putting no build on didn't do anything :( |
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| 14:37.19 | Ahli | If I do what Blizzard had in their answer I have a problem with lowered supply depots becoming buildable |
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| 14:37.56 | Blizz-Deletarius | Morning |
| 14:37.59 | Ahli | but I guess one can use the shrub vision flag as a secondary marker |
| 14:38.00 | Blizz-Deletarius | G0A, are you there? |
| 14:38.33 | Blizz-Deletarius | I need to be certain from you or someone else that the bank issue is still there |
| 14:39.04 | Blizz-Deletarius | because we have reports from people that it's no longer an issue, but if it's still causing you problems I need to have some information from you |
| 14:41.02 | Blizz-Deletarius | also, this is awesome and I want to do this with my house: http://payload.cargocollective.com/1/0/15548/855588/LA%20FUITE_01_1080.jpg |
| 14:41.24 | TheSkunk__ | Morning |
| 14:41.42 | Blizz-Deletarius | Morning |
| 14:44.42 | Ahli | is there a cheat to build faster in editor tests? |
| 14:46.47 | Ahli | it's "catfoodforprawnguns" |
| 14:48.28 | Ahli | Cheekything, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4479839/BuildOnRamp%26makeSupplyDepotWorkProperly.SC2Map |
| 14:48.44 | Ahli | you just need to edit every footprint |
| 14:49.37 | Ahli | and exploit another flag like shrub vision to make sure you can't build/land on a lowered depot while being able to build/land on ramps |
| 14:59.35 | Cheekything | ahli just check "build instantly" on the build ability that should work |
| 14:59.48 | Kueken | Blizz-Deletarius: I did read a post on mapster yesterday, that 1mb bank limit indeed works now |
| 14:59.49 | Cheekything | and I figured it out I had the unit it'self with no collision :/ |
| 15:00.24 | Kueken | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/28875-trigger-bank-facts/#p10 |
| 15:00.34 | Ahli | goa tested it yesterday I think |
| 15:00.37 | Kueken | today |
| 15:00.39 | Blizz-Deletarius | kueken - any link? |
| 15:00.39 | Kueken | it was |
| 15:00.40 | Kueken | ^^ |
| 15:01.00 | Kueken | it is from goa it seems |
| 15:01.17 | Kueken | didn't know Hookah was in fact goa |
| 15:01.25 | Blizz-Deletarius | ahhhh |
| 15:01.26 | Blizz-Deletarius | ok |
| 15:01.26 | Kueken | but his battle.net acc says so |
| 15:02.00 | Kueken | seems his tests confirmed your statement |
| 15:02.32 | Blizz-Deletarius | that it works? |
| 15:02.56 | Kueken | yes |
| 15:03.43 | Blizz-Deletarius | oh good :) |
| 15:03.47 | Blizz-Deletarius | cool, thanks |
| 15:04.01 | Blizz-Deletarius | also reminds me that I should do a map for the weekly terrain exercise |
| 15:04.17 | Blizz-Deletarius | and submit one for last week's story cutscene exercise |
| 15:04.55 | Kueken | did you do stuff like that before? |
| 15:05.41 | Kueken | I don't mean terrain and cinematics in general, but participating at those mapster events |
| 15:05.46 | Blizz-Deletarius | oh |
| 15:05.50 | Blizz-Deletarius | no |
| 15:06.18 | Blizz-Deletarius | I used to do the gameartist.net weekly modeling exercises |
| 15:06.46 | Blizz-Deletarius | that was 3-4 years ago though |
| 15:06.53 | Kueken | so they are not necessarily starcraft-related, I guess? |
| 15:06.58 | Blizz-Deletarius | none of them were |
| 15:07.31 | Blizz-Deletarius | it's a topic, you have 1 hour (usually, most of the time it was, some of the time it was 90 mins, other times it was 30) to do a model based on the subject |
| 15:07.35 | Kueken | yeah, moeling exercises... we could need some of that on mapster |
| 15:07.42 | Kueken | *d |
| 15:07.51 | Kueken | or models in general |
| 15:07.59 | Kueken | but hey, art tools incoming :) |
| 15:07.59 | Blizz-Deletarius | that way it's fast - I usually did it during a lunchtime at my other job |
| 15:08.12 | Blizz-Deletarius | and you don't have to spend a TON of time doing it |
| 15:08.38 | Kueken | yeah, creating a decent model is very time-consuming it seems :D |
| 15:08.57 | Kueken | didn't really try it myself besides some basic tutorials |
| 15:11.44 | Blizz-Deletarius | http://i.imgur.com/54ynD.png - that's one of the examples of one that I did |
| 15:11.52 | Blizz-Deletarius | the topic was something on your desk |
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| 15:12.06 | Blizz-Deletarius | well |
| 15:12.08 | Blizz-Deletarius | you missed what i said |
| 15:12.09 | Blizz-Deletarius | so |
| 15:12.20 | Blizz-Deletarius | http://i.imgur.com/54ynD.png - that's one of the examples of one that I did - the topic was "Something on your desk" |
| 15:13.00 | Dogmai | oh |
| 15:13.03 | Dogmai | g'day mate |
| 15:13.07 | Dogmai | didn't notice you come online |
| 15:13.14 | Blizz-Deletarius | yessir |
| 15:13.27 | Dogmai | Did you realise kind sir |
| 15:13.32 | Dogmai | That I have stayed up everynight waiting for you |
| 15:13.39 | Blizz-Deletarius | ? |
| 15:13.41 | Dogmai | And you broke my heart everytime </3 |
| 15:13.42 | Blizz-Deletarius | why's that? |
| 15:13.49 | Blizz-Deletarius | I do that |
| 15:13.51 | Dogmai | Because its midnight, and I have to wait for you to turn up to work |
| 15:13.55 | Blizz-Deletarius | ask MAI WAIF |
| 15:13.59 | Dogmai | Like its 11:13pm atm |
| 15:14.01 | Dogmai | lawl |
| 15:14.11 | Blizz-Deletarius | I've been in for about 45 mins ;) |
| 15:14.19 | Blizz-Deletarius | it's 8:15am am |
| 15:14.20 | Dogmai | Isn't it like 8am though? |
| 15:14.21 | Blizz-Deletarius | atm* |
| 15:14.23 | Dogmai | yea |
| 15:14.25 | Dogmai | Damn ... |
| 15:14.30 | Blizz-Deletarius | I'm one of the first people in |
| 15:14.33 | Blizz-Deletarius | I like it that way |
| 15:14.42 | Dogmai | Do blizzard have set times you have to come in |
| 15:14.52 | Blizz-Deletarius | depends on the group that you work with |
| 15:15.07 | Blizz-Deletarius | for the editor team just by 9:30 cause of a meeting each morning |
| 15:15.17 | Dogmai | That is pretty awesome |
| 15:15.23 | Blizz-Deletarius | I usually like to be in by 7-7:30 |
| 15:15.33 | Dogmai | You're crazy mate |
| 15:15.37 | Blizz-Deletarius | get up around 6:45 |
| 15:15.51 | Blizz-Deletarius | you get a lot done in the mornings |
| 15:16.08 | Dogmai | Is it too lame to throw a that's what she said joke in? |
| 15:16.11 | Blizz-Deletarius | it's the most productive time for me - no one's here |
| 15:16.49 | Dogmai | I'm the other way around, I work better at night, my brain clears and I can just work hard |
| 15:17.28 | Blizz-Deletarius | once I leave the office I'm done with work |
| 15:17.33 | Blizz-Deletarius | don't bring it home with me or anything |
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| 15:50.55 | TheSkunk__ | oh |
| 15:51.04 | TheSkunk__ | having all of your files on a networked drive is wonderful |
| 15:51.06 | TheSkunk__ | until it dies |
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| 16:12.18 | Cheekything | so any way to do hero levels better these days? |
| 16:14.47 | Cheekything | I think the last time I attempted it onetwoSC's way was the best way |
| 16:23.41 | Dogmai | There is but there are no up to date tutorials |
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| 16:44.29 | Kueken | Dogmai: What are you referring to? |
| 16:45.02 | Kueken | afaik, onetwo's tutorials are still state-of-the-art, aside from a few minor improvements |
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| 16:45.45 | Kueken | or are you referring to the new user value data stuff? |
| 17:04.04 | Skizot | where's the other blizz guy? |
| 17:04.11 | Skizot | I wanna know what's up with my map. |
| 17:04.30 | TheSkunk__ | They are both incredibly busy with HotS |
| 17:05.07 | TheSkunk__ | Best luck you have is creating a thread about it and asking Delete to mention it to someone and\or hoping he sees it eventually himself |
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| 17:11.22 | Taintedwisp | Dammit, my back is killing me |
| 17:12.30 | TheSkunk__ | kill it first |
| 17:12.33 | TheSkunk__ | you cannot let it win |
| 17:13.01 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 17:13.11 | Taintedwisp | Yo Deletarius you see my 2nd hero video? |
| 17:15.33 | Taintedwisp | Skunk |
| 17:15.34 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gC16lIUzHJE |
| 17:15.48 | Taintedwisp | I suck at getting clips and editing though ahah |
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| 17:32.29 | TheSkunk__ | nice |
| 17:33.07 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 17:33.23 | Taintedwisp | We now We now have 3 heroes that are finished up |
| 17:33.37 | Taintedwisp | Another video will come soon. |
| 17:33.45 | Taintedwisp | Soon(TM) :P |
| 17:46.47 | SaltedSaimazoon | cuddles Taintedwisp |
| 17:49.47 | Ahli | I need to finish my tetris map... the minigame deadline ends in a few days |
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| 18:00.30 | MasterReY | hello mapsters |
| 18:00.35 | MasterReY | one really short question: |
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| 18:01.30 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gC16lIUzHJE |
| 18:01.33 | Taintedwisp | There masterrey |
| 18:01.55 | MasterReY | when i have a trigger which get started, and there is a big action definition in it, and i use "Stop alle instances of trigger", will it stop doing the actions inside the action def. also? |
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| 18:02.53 | Ahli | no |
| 18:03.05 | Ahli | oh wiat |
| 18:03.06 | Ahli | yes |
| 18:03.13 | Kueken | :D |
| 18:03.37 | Ahli | unless you make action definitions create their own thread (it's a flag you can set for them) |
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| 18:03.57 | MasterReY | i did not set that flag (if its not set by default :D) |
| 18:04.15 | Ahli | then the action definition's code runs in the thread of the trigger and belongs to that instance |
| 18:04.22 | Ahli | so it will stop |
| 18:04.37 | MasterReY | so i stop all instances, and even if its inside of the action def. it will stop immediately and dont do more actions in the action def.? |
| 18:04.41 | MasterReY | kk good |
| 18:04.47 | MasterReY | thanks |
| 18:05.16 | Kueken | so the action terminates all current threads of that specific trigger? |
| 18:05.28 | Kueken | interesting, didn't know such a function exists |
| 18:05.57 | Ahli | can we stop threaded action definitions with that? |
| 18:06.24 | MasterReY | ^^ |
| 18:06.24 | Ahli | with custom code? |
| 18:07.26 | Ahli | I'm always using a condition that I can falsify from outside the action definiton, if required... |
| 18:08.50 | MasterReY | oh |
| 18:09.04 | MasterReY | when im here already, another quick question: :D |
| 18:09.47 | MasterReY | where can i set which image is displayed when a player is invited to a map |
| 18:10.21 | MasterReY | you know the little dialog "Player X invited you to this custom map: Join/Decline" |
| 18:10.24 | MasterReY | in bnet |
| 18:11.42 | MasterReY | i've set a new "arcade preview", but that dialog still shows the old one |
| 18:12.13 | Ahli | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Imu-6jPB-s&feature=plcp |
| 18:13.46 | Kueken | that brought me a new idea for a boss |
| 18:13.54 | Kueken | "papa roach" |
| 18:14.02 | Kueken | big-ass roach with a guitar |
| 18:14.22 | *** join/#sc2mapster Triceron (1854e5d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.84.229.210) |
| 18:14.34 | Triceron | grumbles |
| 18:14.47 | Triceron | feeling so sluggish today -_- |
| 18:20.10 | *** join/#sc2mapster Bibendus (~Bibendus@ip-80-249-36-63.static.adsl.cheapnet.it) |
| 18:23.43 | ckSynergy | i feel ya |
| 18:23.55 | ckSynergy | oh, hey, what did you find out about that nydus worm model? |
| 18:23.58 | ckSynergy | anything interesting? |
| 18:25.11 | Ahli | http://us.battle.net//d3/en/blog/7540457 |
| 18:27.34 | *** join/#sc2mapster Zolden (588704ca@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.135.4.202) |
| 18:35.01 | Zolden | SILENCE!!! |
| 18:35.57 | Kueken | hm |
| 18:36.03 | Kueken | I don't want to kill you |
| 18:36.20 | *** join/#sc2mapster DeadZergling (836bae1d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.107.174.29) |
| 18:36.31 | Kueken | but the rules of the meme demand: |
| 18:36.38 | Kueken | I KILL U!!! |
| 18:37.04 | DeadZergling | meme? Those have no rules, lol |
| 18:37.50 | Kueken | Much to learn you still have... my dead zergling. |
| 18:38.52 | DeadZergling | about meme's? No, they thrive on human garbage. Surprised they still censor nudity on there |
| 18:47.56 | *** join/#sc2mapster nM|Bibendus (~Bibendus@199.58.84.35) |
| 18:49.36 | Tolkfan | wow, the religion thread finally spawned something useful: that pulsar sound is freaky... If I ever make a map with a giant generator or some protoss energy thing, I'm going to use that sound! |
| 18:49.40 | Tolkfan | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHEVo-LkDrQ |
| 18:50.05 | Tolkfan | It's probably public domain too |
| 18:54.29 | *** join/#sc2mapster nM|Bibendus (~Bibendus@ip-80-249-36-63.static.adsl.cheapnet.it) |
| 19:11.31 | *** join/#sc2mapster Thels (GameBot@ip3e83cdbc.speed.planet.nl) |
| 19:14.54 | Zolden | Tolkfan: some of sc1 zerg sound were of some blizz crew poop |
| 19:24.44 | Ahli | Blizz-Deletarius, is the dialog item fading over time supposed to stop when you pause the game like hitting F10 in an editor test? The game is paused, but the fading over time does not stop... but maybe it's just a technical limitation due to the technology used. |
| 19:35.15 | Triceron | lunch time! |
| 19:38.37 | Taintedwisp | NO LUNCH FOR YOU |
| 19:42.50 | Ahli | lvl 17 is hard in my tetris :S |
| 20:33.22 | Blizz-Deletarius | Ahli, I'd have to ask |
| 20:37.17 | nM|Bibendus | wut |
| 20:38.14 | Blizz-Deletarius | oh good I didn't crash |
| 20:38.17 | Blizz-Deletarius | or disconnect |
| 20:38.18 | nM|Bibendus | :D |
| 20:38.21 | Blizz-Deletarius | Ahli, are you there? |
| 20:38.26 | nM|Bibendus | i m always here to spam |
| 20:38.28 | nM|Bibendus | for you |
| 20:38.30 | nM|Bibendus | don't worry :D |
| 20:38.36 | Blizz-Deletarius | I was about to reconnect |
| 20:38.47 | nM|Bibendus | maybe everyone is watchin TB |
| 20:38.51 | nM|Bibendus | playing forge |
| 20:38.53 | nM|Bibendus | who knows :D |
| 20:39.00 | Blizz-Deletarius | forge? |
| 20:39.02 | Blizz-Deletarius | what's forge? |
| 20:39.12 | nM|Bibendus | 3rd person arena fps |
| 20:39.18 | nM|Bibendus | like wow but with aiming :D |
| 20:39.39 | Blizz-Deletarius | sc2 mod/map or an altogether different game? |
| 20:39.44 | nM|Bibendus | another game |
| 20:39.47 | Blizz-Deletarius | oh ok |
| 20:39.57 | nM|Bibendus | :D |
| 20:40.01 | nM|Bibendus | u still didnt play my map |
| 20:40.05 | nM|Bibendus | and you are interested in forge? :| |
| 20:40.11 | nM|Bibendus | :P |
| 20:40.11 | Blizz-Deletarius | the level of interest for me has now plummeted |
| 20:40.16 | Blizz-Deletarius | no |
| 20:40.17 | nM|Bibendus | ahaha |
| 20:40.27 | nM|Bibendus | I can rename my map in forge if you like |
| 20:40.34 | Blizz-Deletarius | the only indie fps that looks remotely interesting is Hawken |
| 20:40.40 | Blizz-Deletarius | well 3ps |
| 20:41.18 | nM|Bibendus | o mechs :| |
| 20:41.24 | nM|Bibendus | I saw TB casting it |
| 20:41.26 | Blizz-Deletarius | well I'm not even into mechs that much |
| 20:41.27 | nM|Bibendus | I mean streaming |
| 20:41.35 | Blizz-Deletarius | it just looks interesting |
| 20:41.41 | Blizz-Deletarius | I saw someone at the office playing it |
| 20:41.42 | nM|Bibendus | it's sure well done |
| 20:41.54 | Blizz-Deletarius | the architecture and environments are beautiful |
| 20:42.02 | nM|Bibendus | yep |
| 20:42.08 | nM|Bibendus | it's like beeing a real mech |
| 20:42.13 | Blizz-Deletarius | yep |
| 20:42.56 | Taintedwisp | Mech Warrior Online Goes into Public Beta next week |
| 20:42.59 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 20:43.05 | Taintedwisp | The game s good if you liked the old ones |
| 20:43.10 | Blizz-Deletarius | never played em |
| 20:43.11 | nM|Bibendus | nothing to do with that |
| 20:43.12 | nM|Bibendus | :D |
| 20:43.17 | Ahli | I'm here sometimes, yes |
| 20:43.19 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 20:43.20 | nM|Bibendus | it's too slow |
| 20:43.21 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gC16lIUzHJE |
| 20:43.21 | Blizz-Deletarius | ok |
| 20:43.23 | Blizz-Deletarius | Ahli |
| 20:43.23 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 20:43.31 | Taintedwisp | I must post that video till everyone sees it |
| 20:43.38 | nM|Bibendus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76abFui4lx4 |
| 20:43.39 | nM|Bibendus | rly |
| 20:43.47 | nM|Bibendus | this graphics and speed of the game |
| 20:43.49 | nM|Bibendus | ... |
| 20:43.57 | Blizz-Deletarius | "they can add this to the xml to make it use game time instead: <UseAlternateTime val="1"/>. it's not currently exposed as a trigger control property" |
| 20:43.59 | nM|Bibendus | it's 100x then mech warrior |
| 20:44.14 | Blizz-Deletarius | so currently you can do it, through layout files |
| 20:44.23 | Blizz-Deletarius | we just have to add it to the triggers |
| 20:44.28 | Taintedwisp | Whats 100x better then mech warrior? |
| 20:44.41 | Blizz-Deletarius | so if you can wait, and I have no idea when it would be done, I can throw the task over to the guy for htat |
| 20:44.42 | Taintedwisp | Mechwarrior is a Mech Simulator. |
| 20:44.42 | Blizz-Deletarius | that* |
| 20:44.55 | Ahli | now I would make UI frames that I hook up to blend them out? |
| 20:45.18 | Blizz-Deletarius | you would create the ui frame in xml in a layout, then hook up the dialog |
| 20:45.27 | Blizz-Deletarius | and modify it via triggers that way |
| 20:45.35 | nM|Bibendus | dele |
| 20:45.41 | Blizz-Deletarius | bibe |
| 20:45.41 | nM|Bibendus | it sounds like a tenarsis tip :P |
| 20:45.47 | Blizz-Deletarius | ^ |
| 20:45.50 | nM|Bibendus | ah! :D |
| 20:45.54 | nM|Bibendus | he's still alive then |
| 20:46.00 | Blizz-Deletarius | yes, just extremely busy |
| 20:46.04 | G0A | Hey Blizz-Deletarius will SC2 multi become free ever? (I saw there is talk about it) |
| 20:46.06 | nM|Bibendus | rly thank him for his help |
| 20:46.10 | nM|Bibendus | with UIs |
| 20:46.17 | Blizz-Deletarius | no problem |
| 20:46.32 | Blizz-Deletarius | G0A, can't even *begin* to talk about that |
| 20:46.39 | Blizz-Deletarius | or anything about it |
| 20:46.44 | Ahli | It's a minor thing. I'm blending out the finished lines in a tetris game and that's how they disappear (in addition to becoming more white). I just noticed that and wanted to make sure that it wasn't a simple bug. :) |
| 20:46.49 | G0A | I want my maps to be freely played.D |
| 20:46.58 | nM|Bibendus | Taintedwisp |
| 20:47.04 | nM|Bibendus | hawken |
| 20:47.14 | Blizz-Deletarius | can't you specify playing them in the starter edition? |
| 20:47.17 | nM|Bibendus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76abFui4lx4 |
| 20:47.23 | Blizz-Deletarius | er allowing them to be played in the starter edition |
| 20:47.32 | Ahli | But as you normally would blend out images (at least I do), I might would like to see that be paused by default. |
| 20:47.49 | nM|Bibendus | what about starter edition dele? |
| 20:48.04 | Blizz-Deletarius | well that would let you have your game "freely played" |
| 20:48.04 | nM|Bibendus | oh |
| 20:48.05 | nM|Bibendus | goa |
| 20:48.09 | Blizz-Deletarius | yes |
| 20:48.09 | nM|Bibendus | saw the message |
| 20:48.12 | Blizz-Deletarius | yes |
| 20:48.18 | nM|Bibendus | bejeweled is f2p :D |
| 20:48.27 | Blizz-Deletarius | star* |
| 20:48.30 | nM|Bibendus | can u make my map f2p? :D |
| 20:48.33 | nM|Bibendus | star yes :P |
| 20:48.37 | nM|Bibendus | starjeweled |
| 20:48.37 | nM|Bibendus | :P |
| 20:48.41 | G0A | yeah, but you cant do that with "your" map |
| 20:48.50 | Blizz-Deletarius | nawp, I would have but you messed up the name of the map, sorry |
| 20:48.50 | nM|Bibendus | I would like to :P |
| 20:48.55 | Blizz-Deletarius | you've ruined it for everyone |
| 20:49.06 | nM|Bibendus | awww |
| 20:49.07 | nM|Bibendus | :D |
| 20:49.16 | nM|Bibendus | (a random excuse appears) |
| 20:49.22 | nM|Bibendus | a wild |
| 20:49.24 | nM|Bibendus | sry :D |
| 20:49.52 | nM|Bibendus | I should totally go play xcom :| |
| 20:50.20 | nM|Bibendus | dele |
| 20:50.26 | nM|Bibendus | when is the UI editor coming out? |
| 20:50.31 | nM|Bibendus | I don't want to do this thing by hand |
| 20:50.31 | nM|Bibendus | http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7979/20121009272.jpg |
| 20:50.33 | Blizz-Deletarius | heh |
| 20:50.42 | nM|Bibendus | it's like 3 months of work :| |
| 20:50.59 | nM|Bibendus | I may suicide in less time |
| 20:51.06 | Blizz-Deletarius | well |
| 20:51.33 | nM|Bibendus | maybe when the editor comes out in the sc2 beta? :P |
| 20:51.48 | Blizz-Deletarius | we're discussing what to do with it right now |
| 20:51.56 | nM|Bibendus | the editor? |
| 20:51.58 | nM|Bibendus | or the ui editor |
| 20:52.03 | Blizz-Deletarius | ui |
| 20:52.07 | nM|Bibendus | oh k |
| 20:52.09 | nM|Bibendus | is it ready? |
| 20:52.13 | nM|Bibendus | or still incomplete |
| 20:52.23 | Blizz-Deletarius | that doesn't look so difficult to do in triggers OR layout files |
| 20:52.23 | nM|Bibendus | if you can tell me :D |
| 20:52.33 | nM|Bibendus | that's a lot of elements |
| 20:52.37 | nM|Bibendus | :| |
| 20:52.38 | Blizz-Deletarius | I know that |
| 20:52.50 | Blizz-Deletarius | sec |
| 20:53.42 | Blizz-Deletarius | I suggest doing something along these lines: http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/17969-dialogs-really-great-looking-dialogs-part-1/ except making them non-modal |
| 20:53.46 | Blizz-Deletarius | OR |
| 20:53.51 | Blizz-Deletarius | doing it via layout files |
| 20:54.14 | nM|Bibendus | so it's not going to come out soon :D |
| 20:54.17 | Blizz-Deletarius | problem is, you have to then hook up all of the dialogs/items via triggers |
| 20:54.30 | Blizz-Deletarius | no I mean the layout files as the system exists currently |
| 20:54.34 | nM|Bibendus | I still have to do the hookups for some parts |
| 20:54.39 | nM|Bibendus | at least to hide and show some dialogs |
| 20:54.42 | nM|Bibendus | when I click a button |
| 20:54.56 | Blizz-Deletarius | then go ahead and in-game Ctrl + Alt + F11 or F12 |
| 20:55.05 | nM|Bibendus | and? |
| 20:55.07 | nM|Bibendus | it appears? |
| 20:55.10 | Blizz-Deletarius | move stuff around, write down values, etc |
| 20:55.13 | nM|Bibendus | the editor |
| 20:55.20 | nM|Bibendus | oh but it doesnt turn things |
| 20:55.27 | nM|Bibendus | to the xml |
| 20:55.28 | nM|Bibendus | am I right? |
| 20:55.30 | Blizz-Deletarius | start up the game, and press ctrl + alt + F11 or F12 in Swarm Beta |
| 20:55.37 | nM|Bibendus | ooooh |
| 20:55.40 | nM|Bibendus | well but |
| 20:55.46 | nM|Bibendus | i haz a problem |
| 20:55.49 | Blizz-Deletarius | ? |
| 20:55.52 | nM|Bibendus | the editor doesn't start in my beta :D |
| 20:55.58 | Blizz-Deletarius | lack of proper english? badum tsh |
| 20:56.06 | Blizz-Deletarius | jk |
| 20:56.17 | Blizz-Deletarius | what do you mean? |
| 20:56.21 | nM|Bibendus | wut'z english |
| 20:56.27 | Ahli | we can't move the chat around dynamically, dele, can we? |
| 20:56.32 | nM|Bibendus | when I start the sc2 beta editor |
| 20:56.35 | nM|Bibendus | it says files are missing |
| 20:56.37 | nM|Bibendus | and it crashes :| |
| 20:56.39 | Blizz-Deletarius | I don't see why not Ahli |
| 20:56.40 | nM|Bibendus | while the game works properly |
| 20:56.48 | Blizz-Deletarius | which files? |
| 20:56.53 | nM|Bibendus | it doesn't tell me |
| 20:56.53 | Blizz-Deletarius | and have you tried re-downloading and installing? |
| 20:57.56 | nM|Bibendus | nup |
| 20:57.59 | Ahli | were you in a hots game before? |
| 20:58.19 | nM|Bibendus | who me? |
| 20:58.22 | Ahli | the editor only had hots stuff after playing a map in hots online I think. |
| 20:58.22 | nM|Bibendus | or dele xD |
| 20:58.23 | Ahli | yes |
| 20:58.38 | nM|Bibendus | ye but the problem is that it doesn't even start |
| 20:58.59 | nM|Bibendus | I don't know if it may have some issues with my double sc2 installation |
| 20:59.00 | nM|Bibendus | EU/US |
| 20:59.40 | Blizz-Deletarius | I've had 3 different clients installed before + HoTS beta + 2 different development versions at the same time |
| 20:59.44 | Blizz-Deletarius | shouldn't be an issue |
| 20:59.57 | nM|Bibendus | :| |
| 21:00.16 | Blizz-Deletarius | lemme try opening my beta's editor |
| 21:00.39 | Ahli | wow, the hookup thing now opens the UI editor's list... |
| 21:00.43 | nM|Bibendus | http://imageshack.us/a/img803/5323/sc2betaeditorerror.jpg |
| 21:00.46 | nM|Bibendus | btw this is the error |
| 21:00.52 | Blizz-Deletarius | nope, just worked fine for me Bibendus |
| 21:01.19 | Exaken | I've got that error too when opening the hots beta editor, and I'm not in the beta either |
| 21:01.19 | Blizz-Deletarius | well, I found your problem - the language is in gibberish |
| 21:01.21 | Blizz-Deletarius | :P |
| 21:01.26 | nM|Bibendus | reinstallin |
| 21:01.31 | nM|Bibendus | lol |
| 21:01.31 | nM|Bibendus | :D |
| 21:01.36 | Blizz-Deletarius | lemme check that error real fast |
| 21:01.36 | Deaod | its just italian |
| 21:01.39 | Blizz-Deletarius | I know |
| 21:01.46 | Deaod | :) |
| 21:02.31 | Blizz-Deletarius | bibendus |
| 21:02.33 | nM|Bibendus | y |
| 21:02.38 | Blizz-Deletarius | you submitted that error, right? |
| 21:02.43 | nM|Bibendus | haem |
| 21:02.44 | nM|Bibendus | not today |
| 21:02.47 | Blizz-Deletarius | ok |
| 21:02.48 | nM|Bibendus | but like thousand of times |
| 21:02.50 | Blizz-Deletarius | do me a favor |
| 21:02.55 | Blizz-Deletarius | run the editor |
| 21:03.00 | Blizz-Deletarius | copy the value at the bottom |
| 21:03.02 | nM|Bibendus | I just uninstalled xD |
| 21:03.04 | Blizz-Deletarius | ie the: 63e63401-2370-4bb5-b799-ae8875b2da44 |
| 21:03.06 | nM|Bibendus | and i m reinstalling |
| 21:03.06 | Blizz-Deletarius | dawwwwww |
| 21:03.07 | nM|Bibendus | lol |
| 21:03.08 | Blizz-Deletarius | ok |
| 21:03.13 | Blizz-Deletarius | next time, do that for me please |
| 21:03.15 | nM|Bibendus | yy |
| 21:03.17 | Exaken | Here 933DBD4B-5B1D-40C7-AC8A-8DFCED0301D2 |
| 21:03.25 | nM|Bibendus | dunno, I always sent it |
| 21:03.27 | Blizz-Deletarius | submitted it? |
| 21:03.29 | nM|Bibendus | oh exa |
| 21:03.31 | nM|Bibendus | u has the same error? |
| 21:03.32 | Blizz-Deletarius | exaken? |
| 21:03.34 | Exaken | I did |
| 21:03.36 | Blizz-Deletarius | ok |
| 21:03.38 | Blizz-Deletarius | thanks, lemme check |
| 21:03.44 | nM|Bibendus | nice timing :P |
| 21:09.41 | nM|Bibendus | is everyone dead now? |
| 21:09.48 | Blizz-Deletarius | bibendus |
| 21:09.52 | DeadZergling | naw, was catching up on the ch at in here |
| 21:09.53 | nM|Bibendus | y |
| 21:09.57 | DeadZergling | been rather busy for awhile, lol |
| 21:10.07 | Blizz-Deletarius | our QA says try running the game first before running the editor |
| 21:10.13 | DeadZergling | zergling happiness level, lol bib |
| 21:10.21 | nM|Bibendus | I already run the game |
| 21:10.27 | nM|Bibendus | and played a skirmish against cpu |
| 21:10.32 | Blizz-Deletarius | odd |
| 21:10.36 | Blizz-Deletarius | well, try again |
| 21:10.38 | nM|Bibendus | it's for hive keeper |
| 21:10.38 | nM|Bibendus | :P |
| 21:10.49 | nM|Bibendus | I started some fake games too |
| 21:11.03 | nM|Bibendus | but with no real players |
| 21:11.12 | Blizz-Deletarius | not sure |
| 21:11.34 | DeadZergling | i know, just happiness level in general |
| 21:11.37 | DeadZergling | amuses me |
| 21:11.50 | DeadZergling | makes me think SimCraft |
| 21:11.51 | nM|Bibendus | why? |
| 21:12.00 | nM|Bibendus | never seen dungeon keeper? |
| 21:12.13 | DeadZergling | I did when you showed it to me a couple weeks ago |
| 21:12.28 | nM|Bibendus | dungeon keeper? |
| 21:12.29 | nM|Bibendus | not hive keeper |
| 21:12.33 | nM|Bibendus | oh the vid |
| 21:12.36 | DeadZergling | yea, you showed me both |
| 21:12.54 | nM|Bibendus | but the video doesn't show it |
| 21:12.54 | nM|Bibendus | u haz to play it :P |
| 21:13.34 | DeadZergling | suppose so, but unless I'm on the clock game testing, I actually I don't haz to, lol |
| 21:13.47 | nM|Bibendus | :P |
| 21:13.48 | DeadZergling | I dunno, just not my type of game |
| 21:13.55 | nM|Bibendus | btw every creature has happiness |
| 21:14.00 | nM|Bibendus | because it can become unhappy |
| 21:14.03 | DeadZergling | not to diss what you doing at all, just isn't my kind of game |
| 21:14.08 | Ahli | hey, I resized the chat :D |
| 21:14.12 | Ahli | with triggers |
| 21:14.13 | Blizz-Deletarius | know what creature has happiness? |
| 21:14.17 | nM|Bibendus | when hungry or have no sleep or get slapped |
| 21:14.24 | nM|Bibendus | my creatures :D |
| 21:14.31 | nM|Bibendus | they are all happy! |
| 21:14.35 | nM|Bibendus | when I'm their keeper |
| 21:14.54 | DeadZergling | yea, just happiness level still, by default, makes me go somewhere between lol and facepalm |
| 21:15.01 | Blizz-Deletarius | http://io9.com/assets/resources/2008/05/sillysnail.jpg - the happy slug |
| 21:15.04 | Blizz-Deletarius | that has happiness |
| 21:15.09 | DeadZergling | seen it in way too many of my wife's facebook games |
| 21:15.14 | nM|Bibendus | xD |
| 21:15.16 | nM|Bibendus | dahell |
| 21:15.16 | DeadZergling | err, facebook apps |
| 21:15.24 | DeadZergling | not sure I could call facebook games, games |
| 21:15.26 | nM|Bibendus | bring me some salt! |
| 21:15.52 | Blizz-Deletarius | deadzergling, I would call them games |
| 21:15.55 | nM|Bibendus | xD |
| 21:16.02 | Blizz-Deletarius | I mean, tic-tac-toe is a game |
| 21:16.03 | DeadZergling | nice slug picture |
| 21:16.04 | nM|Bibendus | well if a creature is unhappy it may leave the hive |
| 21:16.09 | nM|Bibendus | so it's something important :D |
| 21:16.13 | Blizz-Deletarius | and look how simple that is |
| 21:16.24 | nM|Bibendus | and affects efficiency! |
| 21:16.26 | DeadZergling | indeed, however I would call it more complex |
| 21:16.30 | DeadZergling | than what I've seen on FB |
| 21:16.33 | Ahli | :massimo: I can move the chat around. Thx Dele for just telling me that it is possible. :D now, can I change the time something is displayed.... |
| 21:16.40 | Blizz-Deletarius | Ahli |
| 21:16.43 | nM|Bibendus | ahli |
| 21:16.45 | nM|Bibendus | what was the trick? |
| 21:16.54 | nM|Bibendus | isn't it blizzard secured? |
| 21:16.55 | nM|Bibendus | :D |
| 21:16.59 | Blizz-Deletarius | if you ever wonder if you can do something or not |
| 21:17.02 | Blizz-Deletarius | just try it |
| 21:17.04 | DeadZergling | Indeed they are all games, but I don't like giving games like farmville the title, lol |
| 21:17.05 | Ahli | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:17.12 | nM|Bibendus | and then hide? |
| 21:17.13 | Ahli | I just learned how to properly hook it up |
| 21:17.23 | Ahli | before I messed up the path I think |
| 21:17.23 | nM|Bibendus | can't you just hide it from |
| 21:17.27 | nM|Bibendus | the layout editor? |
| 21:17.30 | Blizz-Deletarius | no |
| 21:17.42 | nM|Bibendus | why not? :O |
| 21:17.59 | Blizz-Deletarius | oh, misread what you wrote |
| 21:18.10 | Blizz-Deletarius | I thought you were saying that hiding and showing was the only thing you could do |
| 21:18.11 | nM|Bibendus | oh :P |
| 21:18.32 | nM|Bibendus | can't u just edit/hide/whatever it using the layout editor? |
| 21:18.40 | nM|Bibendus | or it's protected like the b.net friends button |
| 21:20.51 | Ahli | you can move the friends button around with triggers already |
| 21:20.54 | Blizz-Deletarius | anything that you can see (within reason) that's part of a layout file/frame can be modified using an over-ride layout or the triggers |
| 21:21.12 | Blizz-Deletarius | like for a custom map I'm working on I completely changed the look of the in-game clock |
| 21:21.17 | DeadZergling | out of curiosity Dele, what is outside of reason? lol |
| 21:21.43 | nM|Bibendus | y |
| 21:21.51 | nM|Bibendus | hi |
| 21:21.54 | nM|Bibendus | ops |
| 21:21.55 | Blizz-Deletarius | well right now for instance, the control group "line" I'll call it (where you see all of the control groups that you have selected) can't be broken up and re-arranged |
| 21:22.09 | Blizz-Deletarius | however I just submitted a task for that |
| 21:22.45 | DeadZergling | yea, might be nice to make that vertical sometimes |
| 21:23.22 | nM|Bibendus | oh |
| 21:23.28 | nM|Bibendus | it's unchangable? |
| 21:23.36 | DeadZergling | or in stacks, etc |
| 21:24.07 | DeadZergling | I haven't delved into UI overriding, yet |
| 21:24.11 | DeadZergling | I will be very soon though |
| 21:24.55 | DeadZergling | good to know what I can't expect to change though, lol |
| 21:25.02 | Ahli | hmm, but we can't change the used message duration with triggers, can we? |
| 21:25.47 | nM|Bibendus | it's already dynamic |
| 21:25.47 | nM|Bibendus | mm |
| 21:25.58 | nM|Bibendus | ok |
| 21:26.02 | nM|Bibendus | reconnecting with proxy |
| 21:26.03 | nM|Bibendus | :D |
| 21:30.27 | Ahli | you can disable the chat frame >_> everything is grey |
| 21:31.31 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 21:31.38 | DeadZergling | welcome to my map, NO OUTSIDE COMMUNICATION FOR YOU! |
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| 21:32.16 | Bibendus | I really hate postlaunched games in europe |
| 21:32.51 | Ahli | you would need to put your own button above the friend button to make it impossible to click on it |
| 21:32.55 | Bibendus | dishonored AND xcom |
| 21:33.04 | Bibendus | ahli |
| 21:33.10 | Bibendus | I think it's Z height is always on top |
| 21:33.28 | Ahli | maybe :S |
| 21:33.30 | Bibendus | I think I wasn't able to click a nearby button for it's nearby presence |
| 21:33.34 | Bibendus | it's protected |
| 21:33.36 | Bibendus | don't know why :D |
| 21:33.44 | Bibendus | you can hide the game menu |
| 21:33.51 | Bibendus | leaving noobs stuck in game |
| 21:33.56 | Bibendus | but you can't hide the friends button |
| 21:33.56 | Bibendus | meh |
| 21:34.35 | Ahli | you can't block F10 I think |
| 21:34.43 | Bibendus | no but you can hide the menu |
| 21:34.51 | Bibendus | and noobs won't remember the key :D |
| 21:34.59 | Ahli | ^^ |
| 21:35.01 | Bibendus | mmmmmm one question deletarius |
| 21:35.14 | Bibendus | is there a way to completely inhibit camera buttons |
| 21:35.18 | Bibendus | like home canc ins del |
| 21:35.22 | Bibendus | pageup down |
| 21:35.29 | Bibendus | I don't remember wich one of them are used |
| 21:35.35 | Ahli | can we crash the game for a sc2 version of "don't click the flag"? :D |
| 21:35.47 | Bibendus | wut xD |
| 21:36.14 | Ahli | in scbw flag units could crash the game when you click them and they belonged to a player above 18 or something |
| 21:36.16 | Exaken | Or "Don't look at the dot":D |
| 21:36.29 | Bibendus | xD |
| 21:36.35 | Bibendus | btw Blizz-Deletarius? |
| 21:36.50 | Ahli | because it tried to read out a portrait out of a memory area that didn't have one. |
| 21:37.54 | Bibendus | xD |
| 21:38.02 | Ahli | we can fade out the whole chat |
| 21:39.54 | Exaken | Sigh, reinstalled the beta, started the editor from the game menu, still errors |
| 21:40.19 | Bibendus | did u try to start a match? |
| 21:40.54 | Exaken | How do I do that? Just drag a map over the game icon? |
| 21:41.16 | Exaken | Im not in the beta |
| 21:41.21 | Ahli | login, custom games, play the unit tester... |
| 21:41.47 | Ahli | the editor has no beta content, if you haven't played it online before (at least for me). |
| 21:41.52 | Ahli | but I've beta :) |
| 21:42.13 | Ahli | Exaken, I've noticed that pretty much every artwork I come across in sc2 was made by you... :D |
| 21:42.23 | Blizz-Deletarius | ? |
| 21:42.35 | Exaken | eh? |
| 21:43.07 | Ahli | oh not. it was someone else with E |
| 21:43.11 | Ahli | Existor? |
| 21:43.21 | Blizz-Deletarius | have a picture? |
| 21:43.29 | Blizz-Deletarius | that I can see |
| 21:43.37 | Blizz-Deletarius | I think you mean Wei |
| 21:43.40 | Blizz-Deletarius | maybe |
| 21:44.07 | Ahli | with artwork I mean community made stuff for programs and icons in sc2 |
| 21:44.14 | Blizz-Deletarius | oh |
| 21:44.30 | Exaken | Existor made a loadingscreen for Hive keeper so.. |
| 21:46.43 | Blizz-Deletarius | afk again |
| 21:46.44 | Ahli | I can make the chat frame have a tooltip ;D |
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| 22:03.34 | Zolden | funny recapcha |
| 22:03.38 | Zolden | 1965 Gayshi |
| 22:03.42 | Zolden | almost gayfish |
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| 22:21.47 | Kueken | Have a good night :) |
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| 22:39.58 | tordy | good evening |
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| 22:44.46 | Triceron | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.20 | Triceron | Hey Blizz-Deletarius, do you think it'd be possible for us to get a Unit wizard for the Editor? Like a tool that makes creating units simpler than separately creating Units and Actors and hooking it all up manually |
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| 22:53.43 | b2zeldafreak | can i edit blizzards left 2 die map and use it in a map i'm making? |
| 23:30.01 | DeadZergling | lol, amusing article, Remembering your first computer is for old people, http://techcrunch.com/2012/10/07/remembering-your-first-computer-is-for-old-people/ |
| 23:32.30 | DeadZergling | Pretty sure I don't really remember my first one, not sure if that is me not being old or my memory simply going though. Do remember thinking 300 $ for a 3 gig hard drive was an awesome deal though.... |
| 23:36.07 | A1win | hah |
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| 23:42.05 | DeadZergling | also remember thinking BBS games were awesome too though... |
| 23:42.11 | DeadZergling | so yea, I'm old, lol |
| 23:42.41 | Blizz-Deletarius | Triceron |
| 23:42.51 | Triceron | I still remember the days of playing Doom 2 back in highschool. Not my first comp, but probably my first real PC gaming experience |
| 23:42.56 | Blizz-Deletarius | the idea of a wizard is great, but, it only covers a few things really well |
| 23:43.34 | Triceron | hmm, fair enough |
| 23:43.38 | Blizz-Deletarius | like |
| 23:43.48 | Blizz-Deletarius | the data is way too complex to get all of the cases |
| 23:43.52 | Blizz-Deletarius | or even a majority of them |
| 23:44.19 | DeadZergling | yea, I remember playing doom2 at min graphics settings, in a 6 x 6 screen |
| 23:44.24 | DeadZergling | just so it'd run on my machine |
| 23:45.19 | DeadZergling | also remember how cool it was to have a sound card, lol |
| 23:45.51 | Triceron | "Your soundcard works perfectly" |
| 23:46.15 | DeadZergling | remember that blue setup menu you had to go through |
| 23:46.21 | DeadZergling | each time you wanted to c hange your doom2 settings? |
| 23:46.21 | A1win | my friend's dad had some kind of a computer in 1990 or so, we played some very primordian educational games on it |
| 23:46.55 | Blizz-Deletarius | dwango.exe? |
| 23:47.09 | Triceron | I remember being blown away connecting multiplayer through my 256k modem |
| 23:47.24 | DeadZergling | lol, something like that, thought dwango was a compilation of multiplayer maps though |
| 23:47.41 | DeadZergling | okay, while reminiscing, we shall not mention modems |
| 23:47.47 | DeadZergling | they can all die in a bonfire |
| 23:47.52 | Ahli | I don't feel old anymore, thx guys :D |
| 23:47.55 | Triceron | or wait, it was some other archaic number with a decimal in it |
| 23:47.58 | Triceron | 28.8 |
| 23:48.07 | DeadZergling | fastest I ever had was 56k |
| 23:48.27 | DeadZergling | and it certainly wasn't 56 kb |
| 23:48.40 | Triceron | I skipped 56k, was lucky cable was available |
| 23:48.41 | A1win | ...*primordial |
| 23:48.52 | Ahli | 56k had like 8kb/s downstream if I remember it correctly |
| 23:49.53 | DeadZergling | lol, mention of modems actually incites hateful feelings for me |
| 23:50.09 | Ahli | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8XKhCfsTts dat sound ;D |
| 23:50.10 | DeadZergling | countless disconnects, waiting for t hat damned special modem connection sound to complete |
| 23:50.20 | Triceron | oh god |
| 23:50.39 | Triceron | repressed memories have resurfaced |
| 23:50.44 | DeadZergling | if you asked me, would you rather go w/o internet, or back to modems |
| 23:50.52 | DeadZergling | w/o internet please, thanks |
| 23:50.59 | Triceron | modems :P |
| 23:51.08 | Triceron | can't go without internet, that's heresy |
| 23:51.14 | Ahli | using a program to change the number you connect with because internet was expensive |
| 23:51.45 | DeadZergling | is actually quite possible triceron, lol |
| 23:51.50 | DeadZergling | although I'm sure my kids won't think so |
| 23:52.53 | Ahli | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WuC9q_A2Fc&feature=related |
| 23:53.17 | DeadZergling | yea, because win 95 wasn't buggy at all.... |
| 23:53.37 | DeadZergling | you knew that screen real damn well if you used win 95, lol |
| 23:53.44 | DeadZergling | 5 or 6 reboots a day |
| 23:54.19 | Ahli | always freezing ^^ or bluescreen |
| 23:54.39 | DeadZergling | Mine was real special, it'd just reboot |
| 23:54.47 | DeadZergling | no actual freeze or blue screen |
| 23:54.48 | Ahli | starcraft fails to read the rest of the music file from CD... bluescreen |
| 23:54.55 | DeadZergling | just oh, I think it is time for a memory refresh, lol |
| 23:55.21 | DeadZergling | yes, I remember that one |
| 23:55.41 | DeadZergling | remember running t he patch/prog to remove the need for the cd all together |
| 23:57.18 | DeadZergling | one of my favorite moments in gaming though was this, putting a fan right up to my open case computer, causing horrible blurry lines on everything, just to keep Everquest from crashing |
| 23:57.29 | DeadZergling | was in 99 I think |
