IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20120928

`00:00.35`	`Deadzergling`	`By the way Kueken, I had some serious issues when trying to use the multiply/divide fields in the upgrades section of the data editor, is there a trick to using these, or what?`
`00:00.56`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Taintedwisp\|2 (~kvirc@h105.49.189.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net)`
`00:01.07`	`Taintedwisp\|2`	`There lets see if this crap works hah`
`00:01.16`	`Deadzergling`	`sure, but still see 2 of you`
`00:01.35`	`Taintedwisp\|2`	`Oh lord this is a Shitty looking chat I already miss freenode, this thing here is an Eye Swore...`
`00:01.36`	`Taintedwisp\|2`	`lol`
`00:01.42`	`Kueken`	`not sure, didn't use multiply or divide yet`
`00:02.08`	`Deadzergling`	`I'm thinking it is a rounding issue of sorts, causing my multiplies to not happen. Either that or an overload`
`00:02.22`	`Taintedwisp\|2`	`Thats a bit better`
`00:02.22`	`Deadzergling`	`I don't see why multiplying a few hundred times would be a problem though`
`00:03.03`	`Deadzergling`	`I had to use all subtraction/addition, multiplication would always flake out on me`
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`00:03.11`	`Taintedwisp_`	`bout to find out the problem..`
`00:03.12`	`Taintedwisp_`	`lol`
`00:03.55`	`Kueken`	`the fixed data type SC2 uses might be a problem`
`00:03.56`	`Taintedwisp_`	`ill keep KVIrc up in the background case it happens again`
`00:04.06`	`ckSynergy`	`scratches head and facedesks`
`00:04.20`	`Kueken`	`smallest possible number is 1/4096, highest is 512k`
`00:04.21`	`Deadzergling`	`yea, it gets mad at me for wanting to use absurd values sometimes, like 0.1 :P`
`00:04.27`	`Deadzergling`	`insists no, please use .912`
`00:04.32`	`Deadzergling`	`errr, .0912`
`00:04.42`	`ckSynergy`	`oh hey, that's a start`
`00:04.55`	`Taintedwisp_`	`Hmm, OH NOW IT DOESNT WANT TO DO IT`
`00:04.56`	`Taintedwisp_`	`haha`
`00:05.03`	`Taintedwisp_`	`A conspiracy I say`
`00:05.52`	`Taintedwisp_`	`Dunno why the first isnt going away`
`00:06.55`	`KingPopSickle`	`Least the names arent repeating any more`
`00:09.50`	`KingPopSickle`	`hmm`
`00:10.40`	`Deadzergling`	`grumbles more workarounds it would seem to make my stats work right it would seem, probably just leave it for now until the project is far enough along for someone to actually care that some stats only half apply, lol.`
`00:12.23`	`Kueken`	`ckSynergy: If you don't get it to work, I could have a look`
`00:13.13`	`ckSynergy`	`I thought about asking lol, but I really want to understand whats going on so I can make more effects like it in the future`
`00:13.41`	`KingPopSickle`	`Hey Kuken I tried making http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/23221-ability-energy-absolution/`
`00:13.57`	`KingPopSickle`	`you know any reason why the Model actor for the Impact wouldnt shoot out of the ground?`
`00:14.05`	`KingPopSickle`	`They all stay attached to the unit for somereason`
`00:14.07`	`ckSynergy`	`when I change _LaunchGuide to _Unit, the beam appears, but its not attached to anything`
`00:14.26`	`KingPopSickle`	`plus mine are black for some reason`
`00:14.27`	`KingPopSickle`	`lol`
`00:15.32`	`ckSynergy`	`ok, I give up lol`
`00:15.38`	`ckSynergy`	`Kueken, you min taking a quick look?`
`00:15.39`	`Kueken`	`I didn't follow that tutorial, mainly because I didn't really like the skill, so I don't know, how it is set up`
`00:15.48`	`Kueken`	`sure`
`00:16.11`	`Kueken`	`send again please`
`00:16.16`	`Kueken`	`got canceled`
`00:17.36`	`Kueken`	`KingPopSickle: How do you want the models to behave?`
`00:18.06`	`Kueken`	`they are currently tied to the damage effect, it seems like, so they only spawn at the unit`
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`00:22.08`	`Kueken`	`the tutorial states, it causes more damage closer to the target point`
`00:22.34`	`Kueken`	`but I don't see any any indication of that when browsing through the effects`
`00:23.10`	`Kueken`	`ah`
`00:23.16`	`Kueken`	`okay now I see it xD`
`00:23.23`	`Kueken`	`nvm then`
`00:30.01`	`Bounty`	`Who wants to pway some ling ling rocket`
`00:30.04`	`Bounty`	`:)`
`00:30.56`	`KingPopSickle`	`I would like them to behave as they do in the video..`
`00:31.04`	`KingPopSickle`	`But right now they just jump up all around the Caster`
`00:37.17`	`IShadowWolf`	`Wow`
`00:37.20`	`IShadowWolf`	`There it went...`
`00:37.22`	`IShadowWolf`	`lol`
`00:37.31`	`IShadowWolf`	`I found small error`
`00:37.44`	`Bounty`	`1 spot left for ling ling rocket`
`00:37.45`	`Bounty`	`:)`
`00:37.45`	`IShadowWolf`	`In the SA An offset was -3, instead of -.3`
`00:38.41`	`IShadowWolf`	`NOT SA`
`00:38.42`	`IShadowWolf`	`CP`
`00:38.43`	`IShadowWolf`	`lol`
`00:44.05`	`IShadowWolf`	`Hmm`
`00:46.56`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Vailreth (~kvirc@75.108.220.50)`
`00:47.38`	`Vailreth`	`hello mapsters`
`00:48.07`	`IShadowWolf`	`Hey Vail`
`00:48.18`	`IShadowWolf`	`Freenode was being a douchebag so I switched to KVIrc...`
`00:48.22`	`IShadowWolf`	`I dont like how it looks...`
`00:48.24`	`IShadowWolf`	`lol`
`00:48.33`	`Vailreth`	`ah`
`00:48.57`	`Vailreth`	`i am trying not to play borderlands any more tonight`
`00:49.10`	`Vailreth`	`atleast until after the day9daily`
`00:49.21`	`IShadowWolf`	`:P`
`00:53.25`	`IShadowWolf`	`You watch the Day9Daily?`
`00:53.26`	`IShadowWolf`	`lol`
`00:53.31`	`IShadowWolf`	`Late ass response`
`00:55.19`	`IShadowWolf`	`TAKE ME TO BABYLON!!!`
`00:55.20`	`IShadowWolf`	`lol`
`00:55.23`	`IShadowWolf`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/23221-ability-energy-absolution/`
`00:55.26`	`IShadowWolf`	`Wrong Paste`
`00:55.32`	`IShadowWolf`	`too lazy to get the other`
`00:56.00`	`IShadowWolf`	`Hey Vailreth that link is King Zhakuls Ultimate :P`
`00:56.17`	`IShadowWolf`	`And we have a golden shower for one of his ahah, Thats gotta be changed to green or something`
`00:58.09`	`Vailreth`	`i see`
`00:58.15`	`Vailreth`	`and its a cool ability`
`00:59.25`	`Vailreth`	`i take it you got it working ?`
`01:01.11`	`Deadzergling`	`the ability be a little better if the ground deform wasn't permanent`
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`01:45.38`	`Dogmai`	`morning dipshits <3`
`01:49.19`	`Bounty`	`hey look its that guy`
`02:14.38`	`Dustin`	`hi`
`02:36.27`	`IShadowWolf`	`Vailreth, haha sorry was eating, I got the ability to work and all that`
`02:36.40`	`IShadowWolf`	`Its just one of the actor models isnt working right`
`02:36.47`	`IShadowWolf`	`I mean its pretty cool like it is, but his is cooler`
`02:38.22`	`IShadowWolf`	`Dogmai is gay!!!`
`02:38.33`	`IShadowWolf`	`hahah Hey Dogmai hows it going`
`02:38.40`	`Dogmai`	`you made my irc buzz`
`02:38.45`	`Dogmai`	`i am disappoint`
`02:38.49`	`IShadowWolf`	`raw?`
`02:38.50`	`Dogmai`	`with lack of trolling`
`02:38.54`	`IShadowWolf`	`lol`
`02:39.01`	`IShadowWolf`	`I called you gay theres a bit of trollin`
`02:39.02`	`IShadowWolf`	`:P`
`02:39.08`	`IShadowWolf`	`You see my hero showcase video?`
`02:39.50`	`IShadowWolf`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKoErGCHLxc&feature=plcp`
`02:40.27`	`Dogmai`	`If it is better than mine`
`02:40.30`	`Dogmai`	`You're a dead man walking`
`02:40.40`	`IShadowWolf`	`lawl`
`02:40.57`	`Dogmai`	`You know you can do really easy custom UI`
`02:41.11`	`Dogmai`	`I just saw that cow`
`02:41.13`	`Dogmai`	`Shoot a cow`
`02:41.16`	`IShadowWolf`	`lol`
`02:41.17`	`Dogmai`	`He attacked`
`02:41.19`	`Dogmai`	`I was like please`
`02:41.21`	`IShadowWolf`	`lawl`
`02:41.22`	`Dogmai`	`for the love of fucken god`
`02:41.24`	`Dogmai`	`let that thing explode`
`02:41.27`	`Dogmai`	`i was not disappointed`
`02:41.30`	`IShadowWolf`	`lol`
`02:41.31`	`Dogmai`	`you have restored my faith`
`02:41.53`	`IShadowWolf`	`What would you suggest for a custom UI?`
`02:41.58`	`IShadowWolf`	`I have been tossing the idea around`
`02:42.05`	`IShadowWolf`	`its a frenzy map though`
`02:42.25`	`Dogmai`	`What is a frenzy map`
`02:42.31`	`Dogmai`	`Like evolves?`
`02:42.43`	`IShadowWolf`	`actually haha`
`02:42.50`	`IShadowWolf`	`Its Footman Frenzy and Evolves mixed`
`02:42.51`	`IShadowWolf`	`lol`
`02:43.00`	`Dogmai`	`yea`
`02:43.02`	`IShadowWolf`	`Well thats what it was originally`
`02:43.03`	`Dogmai`	`play um`
`02:43.05`	`IShadowWolf`	`But ideas change`
`02:43.11`	`Dogmai`	`evolution wars II`
`02:43.36`	`Dogmai`	`and take a look at the very simple UI i did for that`
`02:44.00`	`Dogmai`	`Using pre existing art assets`
`02:44.25`	`IShadowWolf`	`hmm okie ill take a note of it on Notepad`
`02:44.31`	`IShadowWolf`	`And look at it next time im on starcraft`
`02:45.05`	`IShadowWolf`	`We do have a hero select that uses the Cutscene editor`
`02:48.01`	`IShadowWolf`	`This map, which is unnamed right now...hahah Because both names we were going to use are taken up on Battle.net... hahah is going to use Pyschology and a few other underhanded tactics that imma try to get people excited about it, or atleast know about it :P`
`02:48.34`	`IShadowWolf`	`Oh and if you have a good name for it then feel free to tell me, Needs to have something to do with Evolving or evolution... EvoFrenzy and EvolutionFrenzy are both taken`
`02:51.16`	`IShadowWolf`	`I wonder why no one does Space Platform maps?`
`02:51.29`	`IShadowWolf`	`I have only seen one since launch and that was BattleCraft`
`02:52.01`	`Vailreth`	`my question is how does the nydus worm work on space platforms`
`02:52.15`	`IShadowWolf`	`Nydus Worm? for what :P`
`02:52.21`	`IShadowWolf`	`We can make a nydus work..`
`02:52.21`	`IShadowWolf`	`haaha`
`02:52.34`	`Vailreth`	`well it makes a globa scream when it immerges`
`02:52.42`	`IShadowWolf`	`WHOA VAILRETH!! YOU JUST GAVE ME AN IDEA!!!!`
`02:52.43`	`Vailreth`	`but in space no one can hear you scream`
`02:52.51`	`IShadowWolf`	`We have Oxygen Vents`
`02:52.52`	`IShadowWolf`	`ahha`
`02:52.59`	`Vailreth`	`ah`
`02:53.05`	`IShadowWolf`	`HEY listen..`
`02:53.09`	`IShadowWolf`	`What if....`
`02:53.18`	`IShadowWolf`	`We had a Mid Game Event where nydus worms pop up`
`02:53.27`	`IShadowWolf`	`and then they spit out units`
`02:53.30`	`IShadowWolf`	`that are 1 hit killed`
`02:53.37`	`IShadowWolf`	`and they each give 1 mineral`
`02:53.50`	`IShadowWolf`	`about 300 should spawn and run randomly around the map`
`02:53.51`	`IShadowWolf`	`haha`
`02:54.01`	`IShadowWolf`	`the Nydus self kill after the event`
`02:54.10`	`IShadowWolf`	`and are invaulnerable during`
`02:54.28`	`Vailreth`	`hmm what does it bring to the game?`
`02:55.01`	`IShadowWolf`	`Good point`
`02:55.07`	`IShadowWolf`	`hmm`
`02:55.09`	`IShadowWolf`	`lol`
`02:55.27`	`IShadowWolf`	`See this is why I need teammates, to make me second guess stupid ideas haahhaa`
`02:56.44`	`Vailreth`	`heh`
`02:57.00`	`Vailreth`	`its not stupid it just dosent fit This map`
`02:57.36`	`IShadowWolf`	`lol true`
`02:57.49`	`IShadowWolf`	`So have you thought any on the dynamic Item system I proposed?`
`02:58.09`	`IShadowWolf`	`I mean we dont have to have items, but I think it could get people to fight in middle`
`02:58.19`	`IShadowWolf`	`We need to give some reason of why the middle is important`
`02:58.30`	`Vailreth`	`yeah`
`02:58.32`	`IShadowWolf`	`or maybe you generate gold in the middle or something`
`02:58.55`	`IShadowWolf`	`The middle should be where 70% of the battles are faught`
`02:59.06`	`IShadowWolf`	`fought? i dunno I have no spellcheck on this client haha`
`02:59.16`	`Kueken`	`fought`
`02:59.18`	`Kueken`	`:)`
`03:00.05`	`Kueken`	`you could put a xel-naga tower there`
`03:00.14`	`Kueken`	`if vision is of any importance in your map`
`03:00.18`	`IShadowWolf`	`Nah`
`03:00.24`	`tordy`	`joe flacco elite quarterback`
`03:00.29`	`IShadowWolf`	`Vision is always shown, unless fog of war is voted on`
`03:01.20`	`IShadowWolf`	`I guess I could start on getting Sarah Kerrigans lvl 1 abilities soon :P I have to go into the actor and change a few things`
`03:03.44`	`IShadowWolf`	`But yeah we need to have a reason to fight in the middle, something important...`
`03:04.04`	`IShadowWolf`	`3 Healing Fountains perhaps?`
`03:04.12`	`IShadowWolf`	`But that may be OP and make battles too long`
`03:05.02`	`IShadowWolf`	`WAIT hey Vailreth what do you think of this For Each section of the middle you control, your team gets 1 mineral per second or per 2 seconds or something like that?`
`03:07.21`	`Vailreth`	`i like that but perhaps not minerals ..`
`03:07.45`	`IShadowWolf`	`hmmm`
`03:07.59`	`IShadowWolf`	`Maybe if they stay in the middle they get gas, and gas buys Mercenaries?`
`03:08.12`	`IShadowWolf`	`And minerals which are gained from getting kills, is what you use for upgrades`
`03:08.13`	`IShadowWolf`	`?`
`03:08.48`	`Vailreth`	`controlling the middle gives you access to special mercs maybe?`
`03:09.05`	`IShadowWolf`	`Hmm I like that`
`03:09.17`	`IShadowWolf`	`Lets just keep thinking on it`
`03:09.21`	`Vailreth`	`yes`
`03:09.25`	`IShadowWolf`	`Get the idea good and refined`
`03:09.57`	`IShadowWolf`	`Imma get the Nova Portrait texture and try to turn her hair red haah`
`03:10.13`	`Vailreth`	`heh`
`03:10.15`	`Vailreth`	`k`
`03:11.03`	`IShadowWolf`	`Sarah Kerrigan needs Red Haired portrait or I need to find an alternative portrait that works well`
`03:12.01`	`Vailreth`	`yeah`
`03:12.08`	`tordy`	`Taintedwisp`
`03:13.26`	`Vailreth`	`There is no Taintedwisp only Zuul`
`03:13.45`	`Vailreth`	`should have said zoop if any one remembers that game`
`03:13.59`	`IShadowWolf`	`FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!`
`03:14.05`	`IShadowWolf`	`DAMMIT`
`03:14.10`	`IShadowWolf`	`FUCK FUCK FUCKIDY FUCK FUCK`
`03:14.13`	`IShadowWolf`	`dammit...`
`03:14.14`	`IShadowWolf`	`lol`
`03:14.18`	`IShadowWolf`	`Uhhh vailreth...`
`03:14.29`	`IShadowWolf`	`How did you fix that bug where your Terrain Objects went missing?`
`03:14.41`	`Vailreth`	`reopened the map`
`03:14.43`	`Vailreth`	`alot`
`03:14.44`	`tordy`	`IShadowWolf wassup mang how u goin`
`03:14.58`	`IShadowWolf`	`I think its a Cutscene Editor Bug`
`03:15.07`	`Vailreth`	`Tordy is the drunk?`
`03:15.07`	`IShadowWolf`	`Because I was int he cutscene editor and when I came out it did it`
`03:15.14`	`Vailreth`	`hm`
`03:15.56`	`IShadowWolf`	`And If I remember you were making the Hero Select when it happend`
`03:15.57`	`IShadowWolf`	`Hey Tordy`
`03:16.03`	`IShadowWolf`	`sorry for ignoring you trying to fix my shit`
`03:27.51`	`IShadowWolf`	`I wonder if Texture Select works on Portraits haha`
`03:29.27`	`Vailreth`	`i couldnt get it to work in my experiments`
`03:34.07`	`IShadowWolf`	`hmmm`
`03:34.16`	`IShadowWolf`	`Ill try it anyways ahhaaha`
`03:34.25`	`IShadowWolf`	`Come to think of it..`
`03:34.30`	`IShadowWolf`	`How do I get this to work...`
`03:34.40`	`IShadowWolf`	`Theres no Actor for the portrait...`
`03:34.43`	`IShadowWolf`	`uhhhhh`
`03:34.45`	`IShadowWolf`	`lol`
`03:35.20`	`Kueken`	`there is`
`03:35.35`	`IShadowWolf`	`Really?`
`03:35.54`	`Kueken`	`yes, you can specify it in the unit actor`
`03:35.58`	`IShadowWolf`	`You are the king of actors to my knowledge Kueken, You have any clues into getting this to work`
`03:36.15`	`IShadowWolf`	`I just wanna change 1 bitches head red`
`03:36.15`	`IShadowWolf`	`haha`
`03:36.24`	`IShadowWolf`	`1 bitches portraits head red`
`03:36.25`	`IShadowWolf`	`haha`
`03:36.28`	`Kueken`	`in cinematics editor?`
`03:36.33`	`Kueken`	`or for a unit portrait`
`03:36.51`	`IShadowWolf`	`Unit Portrait`
`03:36.59`	`Kueken`	`alright, just a second`
`03:37.00`	`IShadowWolf`	`I colored the hari`
`03:37.47`	`IShadowWolf`	`I wish I could just change it through the model data...`
`03:37.48`	`Kueken`	`you can send an actor message to the unit's portrait via reference`
`03:37.57`	`IShadowWolf`	`Is that without a trigger?`
`03:38.05`	`Kueken`	`you know, how to use the target field?`
`03:38.12`	`IShadowWolf`	`uhhhh`
`03:38.13`	`IShadowWolf`	`lol`
`03:38.18`	`Kueken`	`yes, its possible without trigger`
`03:38.22`	`IShadowWolf`	`SWEET`
`03:38.25`	`IShadowWolf`	`NO TRIGGERS YEAH!!!`
`03:38.31`	`Kueken`	`add a new event to the unit actor`
`03:38.44`	`Kueken`	`probably actor creation`
`03:39.04`	`Kueken`	`if that doesn't work, you need to tie it to a behavior or a timer`
`03:39.20`	`Kueken`	`then use the texture select by id actor message as you would for any other model`
`03:39.29`	`Kueken`	`set up the portrait model the exact same way`
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`03:39.34`	`Taintedwisp_`	`lol`
`03:39.40`	`Taintedwisp_`	`I like this IRC much better`
`03:39.50`	`Kueken`	`do I need to repeat anything?`
`03:40.07`	`IShadowWolf`	`hmm okie I gotcha`
`03:40.12`	`Kueken`	`:)`
`03:40.19`	`Taintedwisp_`	`alright Now... to figure out where I find the slot...`
`03:40.27`	`Kueken`	`slot doesn't matter`
`03:40.28`	`Taintedwisp_`	`haha`
`03:40.43`	`Kueken`	`anyway`
`03:40.48`	`Kueken`	`if you added the event`
`03:40.55`	`Kueken`	`select the texture select by id message`
`03:41.04`	`Kueken`	`look at the topmost field`
`03:41.14`	`Kueken`	`its called "Target:"`
`03:41.21`	`Kueken`	`and requires you to enter a string`
`03:41.29`	`Kueken`	`see it?`
`03:42.00`	`IShadowWolf`	`I have to set up the textures first haah`
`03:42.18`	`Kueken`	`highlight me when you are ready`
`03:42.40`	`Taintedwisp_`	`So your saying that even though its not Main, that the Slot doesnt matter?`
`03:44.14`	`Vailreth`	`well later folks`
`03:44.39`	`Taintedwisp`	`later Vail`
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`03:46.13`	`IShadowWolf`	`Hey Kueken does the Prefix and the Slot just not matter? I notice that he didnt really get them from anywhere`
`03:46.49`	`Kueken`	`the slot doesn't matter, as long as the model and the texture use the same one`
`03:46.57`	`Kueken`	`you can use main.diffuse for both`
`03:47.02`	`Kueken`	`or campaign.normal`
`03:47.14`	`Kueken`	`or generic06.specular`
`03:47.19`	`Kueken`	`it just doesn't matter`
`03:47.33`	`Kueken`	`the prefix has to be used`
`03:47.34`	`Taintedwisp_`	`What about the Prefix?`
`03:47.44`	`Taintedwisp`	`What about the Prefix?`
`03:47.47`	`Taintedwisp_`	`Hmm where do I get the prefix from`
`03:47.51`	`Taintedwisp`	`Hmm where do I get the prefix from`
`03:47.55`	`Kueken`	`if you want to swap 1 specific texture`
`03:47.56`	`Taintedwisp_`	`WHOA`
`03:48.00`	`Taintedwisp`	`WHOA`
`03:48.01`	`Taintedwisp_`	`Yeah just 1 texture`
`03:48.05`	`Taintedwisp`	`Yeah just 1 texture`
`03:48.08`	`Taintedwisp_`	`SHUT UP ME THAT I CANT LOG OUT!!!`
`03:48.14`	`Taintedwisp`	`SHUT UP ME THAT I CANT LOG OUT!!!`
`03:48.14`	`Kueken`	`just use the entire texture name as prefix and as trigger on substring`
`03:48.23`	`IShadowWolf`	`Okay to aviod spam im shitting Taintedwisp_ down`
`03:48.26`	`Taintedwisp`	`I LIKE COCKS`
`03:48.37`	`IShadowWolf`	`What the fuck...`
`03:48.42`	`IShadowWolf`	`OKay then...`
`03:48.44`	`Taintedwisp`	`:S`
`03:48.50`	`IShadowWolf`	`Who the fuck is that... Get off my name prick`
`03:49.16`	`Taintedwisp`	`I was wondering what the fuck was going on earlier`
`03:49.25`	`Taintedwisp`	`I knew someone was fukn with me lol`
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`03:49.28`	`Triceron`	`Hey all`
`03:49.41`	`Taintedwisp`	`Yeah.. That was 1 of the 2 guesses...`
`03:49.50`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
`03:49.51`	`Triceron`	`hey Tainted`
`03:49.54`	`Taintedwisp`	`lawl`
`03:49.59`	`Triceron`	`:D`
`03:50.00`	`Taintedwisp`	`that was a Long ass running joke.`
`03:50.01`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
`03:50.11`	`Triceron`	`yeah, i forgot I was in IRC actually`
`03:50.13`	`Taintedwisp`	`were you somehow disconnecting me earlier`
`03:50.16`	`Triceron`	`went to play guild wars`
`03:50.18`	`Triceron`	`no`
`03:50.45`	`Triceron`	`I grabbed it when you were rebooting, was gonna troll you earlier but you weren't back so I went to play games`
`03:51.48`	`Taintedwisp`	`oh lol`
`03:55.19`	`Taintedwisp`	`ALRIGHT KUEKEN haha im at the events part`
`03:55.22`	`Taintedwisp`	`Sorry im soo damn slow`
`03:57.23`	`Kueken`	`:)`
`03:57.41`	`Kueken`	`did you find the target field?`
`03:58.12`	`Taintedwisp`	`Target feild?`
`03:58.27`	`Kueken`	`(05:40:45) Kueken: anyway`
`03:58.27`	`Kueken`	`(05:40:50) Kueken: if you added the event`
`03:58.27`	`Kueken`	`(05:40:57) Kueken: select the texture select by id message`
`03:58.27`	`Kueken`	`(05:41:06) Kueken: look at the topmost field`
`03:58.27`	`Kueken`	`(05:41:15) Kueken: its called "Target:"`
`03:58.28`	`Kueken`	`(05:41:23) Kueken: and requires you to enter a string`
`03:58.28`	`Kueken`	`(05:41:31) Kueken: see it?`
`03:58.35`	`Taintedwisp`	`ohhh`
`03:58.36`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
`03:58.42`	`Taintedwisp`	`okay wheres the Target Feild`
`03:59.00`	`Taintedwisp`	`Found it`
`03:59.12`	`Taintedwisp`	`So just put the file name there?`
`03:59.13`	`Taintedwisp`	`or what`
`03:59.14`	`Taintedwisp`	`?`
`04:00.05`	`Kueken`	`sec, what I planned doesn't seem to work properly`
`04:00.10`	`Taintedwisp`	`Hmm`
`04:00.13`	`Kueken`	`anyway, other way`
`04:00.43`	`Taintedwisp`	`Okay whats the other way?`
`04:00.53`	`Kueken`	`you can use a custom portrait actor for your unit`
`04:01.07`	`Kueken`	`the unit actor has a field Actor: Portrait Actor`
`04:01.17`	`Kueken`	`which defaults to PortraitActor`
`04:01.37`	`Taintedwisp`	`Okay, so I need to make a new actor, and link it there`
`04:01.39`	`Kueken`	`you can create a copy of the PortraitActor actor and modify that`
`04:01.41`	`Taintedwisp`	`what kind of Actor?`
`04:02.06`	`Kueken`	`I usually create a copy of the default actor used by these fields`
`04:02.15`	`Kueken`	`so all settings are equal to the defaults`
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`04:03.29`	`Kueken`	`and then you just have to add the actor message to that actor and link the unit actor to use that actor as portrait actor`
`04:03.53`	`Taintedwisp`	`Okay`
`04:03.59`	`Taintedwisp`	`Okay its done`
`04:04.03`	`Taintedwisp`	`I guess time to test it`
`04:06.26`	`Taintedwisp`	`WHOA`
`04:06.28`	`Taintedwisp`	`Thats something...`
`04:06.35`	`Taintedwisp`	`Hey Kueken Go to portriat camera...`
`04:06.40`	`Taintedwisp`	`theres a camera called Blizzard Allstars`
`04:13.35`	`Taintedwisp`	`Hmmm`
`04:13.41`	`Taintedwisp`	`Still not working for me`
`04:14.03`	`Kueken`	`seems to work for me`
`04:15.14`	`Taintedwisp`	`hmm`
`04:15.48`	`Kueken`	`try another message`
`04:15.55`	`Taintedwisp`	`I wonder what teh blizz allstars camera is for?`
`04:15.56`	`Kueken`	`like set visibility`
`04:16.11`	`Kueken`	`some stuff doesn't work like set tint color`
`04:18.01`	`Taintedwisp`	`Hmm, its not the texture select that didnt work, its not overriding the Art: Portait for the portriat actor`
`04:18.48`	`Kueken`	`?`
`04:19.12`	`Kueken`	`you set the Actor: Portrait actor to your new actor`
`04:19.25`	`Taintedwisp`	`Well yeah`
`04:19.36`	`Kueken`	`and you still use the Art: Model (Portrait) of the unit actor`
`04:19.37`	`Taintedwisp`	`And all I did for the new actor was Put the Art:model right`
`04:19.43`	`Taintedwisp`	`yeah`
`04:20.16`	`Kueken`	`you dont use the Art: Model for the new actor, it will be overridden annyway`
`04:20.24`	`Kueken`	`if you leave it empty`
`04:20.40`	`Taintedwisp`	`Oh ok`
`04:20.50`	`Kueken`	`you just add a new actor message actor creation -> texture select by id`
`04:20.50`	`Taintedwisp`	`So i jsut link the new actor and do my events on teh actor right?`
`04:20.59`	`Kueken`	`yes`
`04:21.22`	`Taintedwisp`	`hmm ok`
`04:23.09`	`Taintedwisp`	`FUCK!!`
`04:23.10`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
`04:23.16`	`Taintedwisp`	`Well it didnt work, and my editor crashed...`
`04:23.17`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
`04:23.22`	`Taintedwisp`	`I'll try again tomorrow`
`04:23.24`	`Taintedwisp`	`Im sleepy`
`04:23.40`	`Taintedwisp`	`Thanks for the help kueken Ill copy/paste this chat and try to read over it with a better head tomorrow`
`04:23.51`	`Kueken`	`:)`
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`07:45.13`	`Dogmai`	`who is here`
`07:49.32`	`soulcarverr`	`hola`
`08:17.50`	`Kueken`	`Dogmai: why do you ask?`
`08:18.06`	`Kueken`	`Deadzergling: just got another idea for your problem`
`08:41.08`	`G0A`	`how can I had a unit from a team, but show it for another team? I remember there was tutorial on sc2mapster about it but I cant find it.`
`08:42.22`	`Deadzergling`	`Oh, still there Kueken?`
`08:42.48`	`Kueken`	`check your thread :)`
`08:43.03`	`Kueken`	`G0A: what do you mean?`
`08:43.07`	`Kueken`	`like changeling?`
`08:43.08`	`Deadzergling`	`Okay, one sec`
`08:45.43`	`Deadzergling`	`Yea, it is very likely I'll have to do suggestion number 3`
`08:46.01`	`Deadzergling`	`Was thinking about it, and even if we could somehow get them to select their own units most the time`
`08:46.11`	`Deadzergling`	`it would still flake out when there was no selection`
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`08:47.25`	`Kueken`	`well, it doesn't have huge drawbacks`
`08:47.57`	`Deadzergling`	`pulling data from catalogs is about the same, and shouldn't require near as complex of algorithms as I was thinking`
`08:48.38`	`G0A`	`Kueken not really, I want that team x can see the unit and team y cant see the unit at all.`
`08:48.53`	`Kueken`	`cloak? ;)`
`08:50.07`	`Kueken`	`well, catalogs have the disadvantage of being more inconvenient to use compared to the text editor data references, and they cannot be localized`
`08:51.10`	`Deadzergling`	`Yea, that is okay`
`08:51.23`	`Deadzergling`	`I've given up the idea of dialogs ever being convenient`
`08:51.44`	`ducky_`	`huh, what are you trying to do again?`
`08:52.32`	`ducky_`	`I just watched the news, oh that bomb picture xD`
`08:52.46`	`Deadzergling`	`oh, let me explain ducky`
`08:52.57`	`Deadzergling`	`you've used dref fields in data button tooltips, right?`
`08:53.24`	`ducky_`	`It's the first time I hear about them`
`08:53.46`	`Deadzergling`	`well basically, they are a way to keep a button's tooltip dynamically updated`
`08:54.05`	`Deadzergling`	`so if your hero has a short sword that starts with 40 damage, you gain 50 strength or something, now it says 50 damage`
`08:54.07`	`ducky_`	`oohh.. references, yeah I know`
`08:54.13`	`Deadzergling`	`etc`
`08:54.23`	`Deadzergling`	`anyways, this works awesome for data buttons connected to a unit`
`08:54.39`	`Deadzergling`	`But I've discovered connecting these fields to a dialog button tooltip`
`08:54.45`	`Deadzergling`	`Doesn't work so great`
`08:55.03`	`Deadzergling`	`it dynamically updates for whatever player you might have selected at the time`
`08:55.45`	`ducky_`	`Yeah, I get it, there is no reference code tags for picking referenced unit`
`08:55.55`	`Deadzergling`	`Anyways, I'm going to try kueken's third suggestion now`
`08:56.10`	`Deadzergling`	`gonna take me a little while, but will do a small test`
`08:56.12`	`ducky_`	`what did he suggest?`
`08:56.22`	`Deadzergling`	`to access the catalog values`
`08:56.29`	`Deadzergling`	`that allows you to pick what player`
`08:56.34`	`Deadzergling`	`you are grabbing the value for`
`08:57.38`	`G0A`	`ducky_ http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/project-workplace/24258-bomberbot-arena/?page=5#p100 :D`
`08:58.17`	`ducky_`	`yeah, Exactly that made me crawl from under my stone and go watch some news :D`
`08:59.28`	`ducky_`	`I don't even know whether to find news funny or sad today anymore :'(`
`09:00.13`	`G0A`	`I go with funny:D`
`09:00.43`	`G0A`	`hmm someunits cant be clocked?`
`09:01.24`	`ducky_`	`cloaking is a units flag, can't imagine why someone could be uncloakable`
`09:01.45`	`ducky_`	`unless it has something like "suppress cloak" on one of behaviors`
`09:01.57`	`Deadzergling`	`makes sense for say, arbiters`
`09:02.02`	`Deadzergling`	`or motherships i guess now`
`09:02.16`	`G0A`	`adding cloack flag doesnt change much as I see now`
`09:02.23`	`ducky_`	`which unit?`
`09:02.31`	`Deadzergling`	`I still tend to think of units in BW terms, showing that I never play melee, ever, lol`
`09:02.51`	`ducky_`	`BW was so much cooler than WoL =D`
`09:03.13`	`Deadzergling`	`Yea, I could say I understood most the editor back then, lol`
`09:03.20`	`G0A`	`well I want to cloack terran beacon now`
`09:03.34`	`G0A`	`I actually want to hide it from team x and show it from team y`
`09:03.45`	`ducky_`	`use filters in actor?`
`09:04.18`	`G0A`	`that does that?`
`09:04.28`	`ducky_`	`it's like ghosts nuke cursor`
`09:04.44`	`ducky_`	`doesn't display actor for filtered groups`
`09:05.07`	`ducky_`	`so you can make actor not display for either "allies, enemies, neutral or self"`
`09:05.43`	`ducky_`	`in your case I suppose you'd check enemies and neural, so only allies and owner would see the actor`
`09:07.06`	`G0A`	`nice`
`09:07.08`	`ducky_`	`btw goa, I don't know if you realize it or not, but it was a 100th post in that thread :D`
`09:07.24`	`G0A`	`yeah I saw it.D`
`09:09.09`	`G0A`	`filters didnt work out`
`09:09.22`	`ducky_`	`how so?`
`09:10.15`	`G0A`	`maybe because its editor placed unit?`
`09:11.33`	`ducky_`	`dunno about that`
`09:12.51`	`Kueken`	`filters don't work on unit actors`
`09:12.56`	`Kueken`	`but on attachments`
`09:13.09`	`G0A`	`Ahh I set wrong filters.D`
`09:13.15`	`Kueken`	`you can make unit invisible and attach the beacon to use filters on that`
`09:13.36`	`Kueken`	`also, cloak should work`
`09:14.01`	`Kueken`	`check cloak + buried flag should make the unit invisible for enemies`
`09:14.18`	`ducky_`	`even if enemy has detectors?`
`09:14.23`	`Kueken`	`and checking undetectable would prevent any detectors from interfering`
`09:15.03`	`ducky_`	`go with that goa ^^ :D`
`09:15.58`	`ducky_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:16.11`	`Kueken`	`oh, trust me, it does`
`09:16.16`	`Kueken`	`I wish you were right`
`09:17.11`	`Deadzergling`	`Sweet, that works Kueken`
`09:23.19`	`Deadzergling`	`This could take awhile though, probably going to want to add 3 or 4 more catalog fields, and update this for 100 more tooltips`
`09:23.40`	`Deadzergling`	`Repetitiveness, what else is new, lol. At least I know how to approach it now, thanks Kueken.`
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`11:23.44`	`G0A`	`ducky_ I still cant get actor filter to get working.. that should hide the units isnt it?`
`11:25.01`	`ducky_`	`[12:12] <Kueken> filters don't work on unit actors[12:12] <Kueken> but on attachments[12:13] <Kueken> you can make unit invisible and attach the beacon to use filters on that`
`11:25.19`	`ducky_`	`[12:13] <Kueken> check cloak + buried flag should make the unit invisible for enemies`
`11:25.25`	`Kueken`	`wah`
`11:25.30`	`Kueken`	`somethings highlighting me`
`11:25.40`	`ducky_`	`oh, sorry about that xD`
`11:25.45`	`Kueken`	`:)`
`11:25.49`	`G0A`	`ahh:D`
`11:26.11`	`Kueken`	`you mentioned cloak didn't work?`
`11:26.26`	`Kueken`	`I never saw cloak malfunction`
`11:26.34`	`G0A`	`well cloack probably didnt worked because I tested it wrongly.D`
`11:26.41`	`Kueken`	`happens :p`
`11:28.12`	`G0A`	`I will just use actors anyway`
`11:28.14`	`G0A`	`.D`
`11:28.45`	`Kueken`	`alright`
`11:28.49`	`Kueken`	`if you use attachments`
`11:29.04`	`Kueken`	`make sure to uncheck visibility in the inherited properties`
`11:29.17`	`Kueken`	`because the inherited visibility will override the filter`
`11:29.33`	`G0A`	`hmm is there a way to hide actor or I should kill the actor each time I want to hide it?:D`
`11:29.59`	`Kueken`	`several possibilities`
`11:30.08`	`Kueken`	`you could use the "invisible" model`
`11:30.18`	`Kueken`	`you can send a "set visibility" actor message`
`11:30.27`	`Kueken`	`or "set opacity`
`11:30.28`	`Kueken`	`"`
`11:30.44`	`G0A`	`also how will I connect actor to a player?`
`11:30.57`	`Kueken`	`you can also locally destroy actors, but thats a more advanced thing to do`
`11:31.08`	`Kueken`	`unless you implement the GAx3 mod`
`11:31.14`	`G0A`	`opacity will work right.D`
`11:31.39`	`Kueken`	`thats what the filter is for`
`11:31.58`	`Kueken`	`filter essentially hides the actor for a group of players`
`11:32.44`	`Kueken`	`if you check All, noone can see the actor`
`11:33.00`	`Kueken`	`checking Enemy causes only allies to see the actor`
`11:33.44`	`Kueken`	`it only really works as a unit attachment or for spell effects and something alike, where it can determine, which player to treat as an enemy or ally`
`11:34.47`	`G0A`	`yeah I figuring that out:D`
`11:35.18`	`G0A`	`gona create it with than creat effect at point`
`11:35.45`	`G0A`	`and kill the effect if I want to hide it`
`11:37.38`	`Kueken`	`you cannot kill an effect for one player only`
`11:38.59`	`G0A`	`yeah thats why I have to kill it:D`
`11:39.18`	`G0A`	`ahh I mean I create 2 of it...`
`11:39.31`	`G0A`	`...`
`11:39.41`	`G0A`	`anyway I know now how to do it.D`
`11:40.34`	`G0A`	`I will just create the effect by player x and if I want to show it for other player than I kill it and recreate it at the same place...`
`11:41.20`	`Kueken`	`that should work as well, even though its probably not the most efficient solution ;)`
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`11:49.15`	`G0A`	`for my map I think its the best solution`
`12:17.11`	`G0A`	`yeah it works perfectly now.D`
`12:17.38`	`Kueken`	`:)`
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`14:07.14`	`zenxu`	`waz up my nigaz`
`14:07.58`	`TheSkunk__`	`I was told to slap my computer with a slice of cheese to fix it`
`14:08.51`	`TheSkunk__`	`and then eat the slice of cheese if it didn't work.. can't end badly, either your computer is fixed or you get to eat a slice of cheese`
`14:24.42`	`G0A`	`lolz`
`14:24.56`	`G0A`	`new featured map on EU server`
`14:27.16`	`TheSkunk__`	`orly?`
`14:27.20`	`TheSkunk__`	`what is it?`
`14:27.54`	`G0A`	`Hope blizz guys are here, I want to congratulate for them for being retarded:D`
`14:28.06`	`TheSkunk__`	`they aren't right now`
`14:28.14`	`TheSkunk__`	`haven't been for a couple of days, actually =/`
`14:28.36`	`G0A`	`I think they just changed their name back to some random name`
`14:28.43`	`zenxu`	what map?`!?!?
`14:28.45`	`G0A`	`shit I should have logged them.D`
`14:28.58`	`G0A`	`Angry Angry templar the map`
`14:29.00`	`TheSkunk__`	`IIRC, though, they aren't involved in the process of selecting feature maps anyway`
`14:29.16`	`G0A`	`with 5 total ratings which makes it to 2 star:D`
`14:29.21`	`zenxu`	`interesting choise`
`14:30.47`	`G0A`	`retarded choice or anyone who made it doesnt play arcade maps.`
`14:31.12`	`G0A`	`there is a much better similar map, but currently I dont remember its name.`
`14:31.47`	`G0A`	`Its a w3 remake too. (also the original w3 angry angry felhound is much better than this sc2 shit.D)`
`14:32.34`	`G0A`	`(but that was made by TheZizz:D)`
`14:33.59`	`zenxu`	`yea I think I played it once`
`14:34.10`	`zenxu`	`and was really bad compared to wc3 version`
`14:34.32`	`zenxu`	`too bad I dont care too much, even thou they could have picked some other map`
`14:35.12`	`G0A`	`ahh now it come into mind, Magecraft should have been featured instead, its similar, but much better and much more polished.`
`14:38.11`	`zenxu`	`the featured system doesnt have too much purpose anyway`
`14:38.27`	`zenxu`	`allthou`
`14:38.30`	`G0A`	`true`
`14:38.45`	`zenxu`	`snipers promod did come popular, it still doesnt really interest me`
`14:38.47`	`G0A`	`the whole arcade system didnt change much, its still crap`
`14:38.54`	`zenxu`	`I think its good`
`14:39.00`	`zenxu`	`so good I dont care about the featured`
`14:39.32`	`G0A`	`pff`
`14:39.40`	`G0A`	`so you like playing Nexus wars?:D`
`14:39.58`	`zenxu`	`I like strikers`
`14:40.01`	`zenxu`	`which now I can play`
`14:40.06`	`zenxu`	`couldnt before arcade`
`14:40.19`	`G0A`	`strikers?`
`14:40.27`	`zenxu`	`yes`
`14:40.47`	`G0A`	`ahh`
`14:40.49`	`G0A`	`found it.D`
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`14:42.08`	`G0A`	`I liked the w3 soccer map better which was more like a soccer simulator.`
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`15:08.21`	`Dogmai`	`~seen blizz-deletarius`
`15:08.23`	`purl`	`blizz-deletarius <d8940048@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.148.0.72> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3d 20h 44m 39s ago, saying: 'sorry'.`
`15:08.53`	`Dogmai`	`~seen blizz-alterius`
`15:08.54`	`purl`	`i haven't seen 'blizz-alterius', Dogmai`
`15:09.13`	`Dogmai`	`ugh ...`
`15:09.19`	`Dogmai`	`~seen blizz-*`
`15:09.19`	`purl`	`Dogmai: i haven't seen 'blizz-*'`
`15:11.02`	`Motive`	`scumbag purl: does not like regex`
`15:11.08`	`Motive`	`well that's not regex actually`
`15:11.11`	`Motive`	`but you get the idea`
`15:11.24`	`Exaken`	`~seen blizz-Artestru`
`15:11.26`	`purl`	`blizz-artestru <d8940048@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.148.0.72> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 8d 23h 28m 6s ago, saying: 'Alright guys, I'm pretty busy today so I'm going to log off.'.`
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`15:19.58`	`Dogmai`	`thank you exaken`
`15:20.04`	`Exaken`	`np`
`15:20.28`	`Dogmai`	`It seems we have been forsaken`
`15:20.42`	`Dogmai`	`Ugh, anyone bring some coke?`
`15:20.55`	`Motive`	`snorts all the coke.`
`15:20.56`	`Motive`	`am I doing it right?`
`15:21.06`	`Dogmai`	`Bastard`
`15:21.08`	`Dogmai`	`Share`
`15:21.42`	`Dogmai`	`I want to know if Renee is a boy or a girl`
`15:21.55`	`Motive`	`Or both.`
`15:22.07`	`Motive`	`Or neither.`
`15:22.31`	`Dogmai`	`o_O`
`15:22.33`	`Dogmai`	`Well`
`15:22.38`	`Dogmai`	`He or She comes from Nanning`
`15:22.52`	`Dogmai`	`Before I went to china i msged lets say him`
`15:22.59`	`Dogmai`	`Saying I was coming, wanna catch up?`
`15:23.03`	`Dogmai`	`I was in his city damnit`
`15:23.11`	`Dogmai`	`no response`
`15:23.13`	`Dogmai`	`in fact`
`15:23.23`	`Dogmai`	`Renee never talks to me unless he is telling me I am doing something wrong`
`15:23.29`	`Dogmai`	`Which, everytime so far has backfired.`
`15:25.45`	`Dogmai`	`oh btw`
`15:26.02`	`Dogmai`	`anyone interested in testing tofu over the weekend?`
`15:26.13`	`Motive`	`no but can I eat tofu?`
`15:26.44`	`vail\|gone`	`sorry Dogmai but im currently addicted to borderlands`
`15:27.13`	`Dogmai`	`meh`
`15:27.19`	`Dogmai`	`im waiting for patch 1.5 for diablo`
`15:28.38`	`Vailreth`	`is that the patch were they will have interesting loot now?`
`15:28.55`	`Dogmai`	`ugh`
`15:28.57`	`Dogmai`	`higher drop rates`
`15:29.01`	`Dogmai`	`they basically removed items`
`15:29.08`	`Dogmai`	`items in d3 are stat points in d2`
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`15:30.32`	`Vailreth`	`higher drop rates are fine but i want cool shit that makes me have a hard time managing my inventory because its all so cool`
`15:45.51`	`Vailreth`	`loot based games with out interesting loot are pointless`
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`16:30.19`	`Kueken`	`well, D2 vanilla loot wasn't all that interesting as well, tbh`
`16:30.54`	`Kueken`	`LoD and a couple of patches made for really interesting loot`
`16:31.09`	`Kueken`	`and the most recent patches + runewords massively overdid it`
`16:32.17`	`Kueken`	`but well, if Blizzard keeps patching D3, it will become a really nice game by the end of 2013 :D`
`16:34.41`	`Zolden`	`D3 looks like a bunny from its back`
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`16:40.36`	`Taintedwisp`	`Hey everyone`
`16:41.22`	`Taintedwisp`	`Fine, I feel the love`
`16:41.27`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`16:41.31`	`Taintedwisp`	`Hey Dogmai howws it going??`
`16:41.45`	`TheSkunk__`	`Hey`
`16:42.16`	`Taintedwisp`	`Yo Vailreth, I changed the Healing storm to green from yellow, its working perfectly it heals roughly 200 health to each unit, so thats about how strong the lvl 5 version should be`
`16:42.35`	`Taintedwisp`	`Hey skunk, I have been meaning to ask you... what project do you work on? lawl`
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`16:43.30`	`Zolden`	`Taintedwisp: r u high?`
`16:43.36`	`Taintedwisp`	`No?`
`16:43.39`	`Taintedwisp`	`I dont smoke weed`
`16:43.47`	`TheSkunk__`	`Not really any project right now`
`16:43.52`	`Taintedwisp`	`ah`
`16:44.01`	`Taintedwisp`	`I was just curious`
`16:48.04`	`Taintedwisp`	`Not a very talkative group today?`
`16:48.41`	`Taintedwisp`	`Hmmm`
`16:48.48`	`Taintedwisp`	`I guess I should start working on the map soon`
`16:49.20`	`TheSkunk__`	`to busy clipping batman singing out of a picture to talk, sorry`
`16:49.26`	`Zolden`	`yeah, do it`
`16:49.34`	`Zolden`	`mapping is better then chatting`
`17:05.39`	`Vailreth`	`ok tainted`
`17:10.55`	`Taintedwisp`	`Lol zolden`
`17:11.11`	`Taintedwisp`	`Mapping is great, but its not great unless you can talk to others while doing it`
`17:15.42`	`Taintedwisp`	`Well the healing is perfect, just how I wanted it, The ultimate... well I dont know what to do to fix that one.`
`17:18.53`	`Taintedwisp`	`Soo.... I think imma spend about 5-10 minutes on teh ultimate and if I cant make ANY progress imma start on something else`
`17:33.54`	`Taintedwisp`	`Yeah His ultimate will have to be fixed and I really dont know how to do it haahah`
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`18:09.52`	`Taintedwisp`	`hey bounty`
`18:10.03`	`Bounty`	`sup`
`18:10.03`	`Taintedwisp`	`I heard you have some new paper towels coming out?`
`18:10.06`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
`18:10.13`	`Bounty`	`har har`
`18:10.15`	`Bounty`	`u so funny`
`18:10.19`	`Taintedwisp`	`lawl`
`18:10.50`	`Taintedwisp`	`Yeah I know I am, they call me an american treasure...`
`18:22.51`	`Taintedwisp`	`hmm, I checked and checked and checked, I didnt see onesingle difference in my ability and the other guys ability...`
`18:22.52`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
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`18:43.21`	`Taintedwisp`	`No one is talkin, whats with all the hate?`
`18:43.24`	`Taintedwisp`	`hahaha`
`18:44.02`	`TheSkunk__`	`I was AK`
`18:44.09`	`TheSkunk__`	`afk`
`18:44.14`	`TheSkunk__`	`for quite a bit there`
`18:44.20`	`TheSkunk__`	`stupid keyboard`
`18:44.25`	`TheSkunk__`	`cannot type capital f`
`18:44.57`	`TheSkunk__`	`unless I toggle caps lock to do it ><`
`18:47.18`	`Taintedwisp`	`ahahaha`
`18:47.20`	`Taintedwisp`	`FFFFFFF`
`18:47.21`	`Taintedwisp`	`suck it`
`18:47.29`	`Taintedwisp`	`FFFFffffffFFffFfF`
`18:47.30`	`Taintedwisp`	`\lol`
`18:47.32`	`Taintedwisp`	`trolol`
`18:47.33`	`TheSkunk__`	`FFFFFF`
`18:47.40`	`TheSkunk__`	`caps luck is my freindddd`
`18:47.48`	`TheSkunk__`	`what is more annoying`
`18:47.51`	`Taintedwisp`	`FffFfFfFFFfFFFfffff'kik'']`
`18:47.51`	`TheSkunk__`	`is number symbols`
`18:47.57`	`TheSkunk__`	`because caps doesn't work for that`
`18:48.02`	`Taintedwisp`	`Dont feel bad, I have no Number Pad ahahah`
`18:48.09`	`Taintedwisp`	`you have 2 shifts :P`
`18:48.13`	`TheSkunk__`	`!%&*()_+=- only symbols I can do`
`18:48.14`	`TheSkunk__`	`yeah`
`18:48.16`	`TheSkunk__`	`I know`
`18:48.17`	`Taintedwisp`	`or you could bind the shift key to another key`
`18:48.30`	`TheSkunk__`	`but each shift`
`18:48.32`	`TheSkunk__`	`cannot do some keys`
`18:48.37`	`Taintedwisp`	`Thats werid`
`18:48.38`	`TheSkunk__`	`and some keys neither shift can do`
`18:48.40`	`Taintedwisp`	`$$$$$$$`
`18:48.41`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`18:49.03`	`Taintedwisp`	`Just make the $ symbol if you want a free copy of HoTS skunk.. nows your change`
`18:49.05`	`Taintedwisp`	`chanc`
`18:49.06`	`Taintedwisp`	`haha`
`18:49.08`	`Taintedwisp`	`5`
`18:49.09`	`Taintedwisp`	`4`
`18:49.10`	`Taintedwisp`	`3`
`18:49.11`	`Taintedwisp`	`2`
`18:49.12`	`Taintedwisp`	`1`
`18:49.13`	`Taintedwisp`	`0`
`18:49.14`	`Taintedwisp`	`hhaaha`
`18:49.16`	`Taintedwisp`	`trolol`
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`19:04.37`	`TheSkunk__`	`sorry was called away because the dishwasher was making a funny smell`
`19:07.03`	`Kueken`	`uh`
`19:07.08`	`Kueken`	`no details please`
`19:07.20`	`TheSkunk__`	`o.0 what?`
`19:07.29`	`Kueken`	`next time say stuff like "because I have a rl"`
`19:07.32`	`TheSkunk__`	`Breaking equipment is scary to you?`
`19:07.44`	`TheSkunk__`	`Or did you think I meant a human dishwasher =P`
`19:07.53`	`Kueken`	`not really, I break the SC2 editor on a regular basis ;)`
`19:08.00`	`Taintedwisp`	`Same here`
`19:08.10`	`Taintedwisp`	`I put my problem on the Forums and Renee said.... Reinstall game...`
`19:08.13`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
`19:08.17`	`Kueken`	`o_0`
`19:08.24`	`Kueken`	`if renee says that, its serious`
`19:08.32`	`Taintedwisp`	`Its not that serious...`
`19:08.33`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
`19:08.40`	`Kueken`	`she knows what she is talking about ;)`
`19:08.44`	`Taintedwisp`	`My editor crashes on occasion when I test document`
`19:09.20`	`Kueken`	`good luck with that :D`
`19:09.24`	`Kueken`	`anyway, I am off`
`19:09.25`	`Kueken`	`bye`
`19:13.46`	`Taintedwisp`	`Yo bounty your really good with data right?`
`19:13.58`	`Bounty`	`no`
`19:13.58`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`19:14.01`	`Taintedwisp`	`damn`
`19:14.02`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
`19:14.03`	`Taintedwisp`	`hmm`
`19:14.11`	`Taintedwisp`	`I think this is an actor problem...`
`19:14.48`	`Taintedwisp`	`Its weird I went to make http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/23221-ability-energy-absolution/, Everything works but the blue beams, spawn around the caster and not on the units they hit`
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`19:17.52`	`Taintedwisp`	`Hey soul`
`19:20.25`	`soulcarverr`	`whats up`
`19:21.21`	`Taintedwisp`	`Nm, tryin to get http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/23221-ability-energy-absolution/ to work right haha`
`19:21.38`	`Taintedwisp`	`Its MOSTLY working, but the beams dont hit the enemy units instead they popup around the caster`
`19:23.30`	`DeadZergling`	`hi soul, thanks for looking at the tooltip issues I was having, finally came to a working solution for that`
`19:26.23`	`soulcarverr`	`yeah zergling.... did you write that script?`
`19:27.06`	`DeadZergling`	`the text file I attached?`
`19:27.17`	`DeadZergling`	`or what I used to make it work?`
`19:27.32`	`soulcarverr`	`the text file you attached`
`19:27.51`	`DeadZergling`	`yea, I did`
`19:28.02`	`DeadZergling`	`well is obvious I did some gui clicking in some areas`
`19:28.07`	`soulcarverr`	`i work pretty much exclusively with GUI triggers..... Im pretty sure I could easily do what you were trying to do in that`
`19:28.20`	`DeadZergling`	`but like the impabilitybuyer i did all in custom script`
`19:29.23`	`DeadZergling`	`yea, I know I could just use an array of ints for the levels, but I wanted to know how to do it this way so I could show up to date damage amounts, spell cost amounts, etc`
`19:29.38`	`DeadZergling`	`with varying level/wisdom/intelligence amounts`
`19:31.08`	`DeadZergling`	`that's interesting, so you do almost all trigger dialog stuff?`
`19:33.42`	`DeadZergling`	`sure you could do it better than I, I am discovering I have a deep hatred for dialogs, lol`
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`19:49.22`	`soulcarverr`	`not saying i could do it better`
`19:49.33`	`soulcarverr`	`just saying i could easily do it with GUI triggerings`
`19:49.40`	`soulcarverr`	`the thing you need to know about dialogs`
`19:50.23`	`soulcarverr`	`is that a dialog can have different values per player`
`19:51.03`	`DeadZergling`	`Hrrrrmm, so you are telling me my plan to have 8 different dialogs for 8 different players is a mistake?`
`19:51.09`	`soulcarverr`	`yes`
`19:51.22`	`DeadZergling`	`This worries me though about updating the tooltips`
`19:51.31`	`soulcarverr`	`a dialog item`
`19:51.38`	`soulcarverr`	`hmm well`
`19:51.46`	`soulcarverr`	`go into go`
`19:51.47`	`soulcarverr`	`gui`
`19:52.02`	`soulcarverr`	`do a "set dialog item tooltip" action`
`19:52.11`	`soulcarverr`	`does it let you specify which player it is for`
`19:52.27`	`DeadZergling`	`lol, not at a comp w/ that right now, at work atm`
`19:52.34`	`DeadZergling`	`let me check the wiki`
`19:52.53`	`soulcarverr`	`id check for you if i was home`
`19:53.17`	`DeadZergling`	`yea, I try to do scripting/thinking/planning at work when I have offtime`
`19:53.18`	`soulcarverr`	`Im going to assume that if you do a specific "set dialog tooltip" action that it will let you specify the player`
`19:53.33`	`soulcarverr`	`but im not sure`
`19:53.39`	`soulcarverr`	`I would suggest you use GUI though`
`19:53.46`	`soulcarverr`	`so much easier to follow`
`19:53.56`	`DeadZergling`	`void libNtve_gf_SetDialogItemTooltip ( control dialogItem, text tooltip, playergroup players )`
`19:54.06`	`soulcarverr`	`yes`
`19:54.12`	`soulcarverr`	`its aasking for a player group`
`19:54.14`	`DeadZergling`	`so it does let you specify player`
`19:54.18`	`soulcarverr`	`so you can specify a single player`
`19:54.27`	`soulcarverr`	`you do a .... convert player to player group action`
`19:54.34`	`soulcarverr`	`so yeah`
`19:54.38`	`soulcarverr`	`1 dialog`
`19:54.53`	`soulcarverr`	`for all players`
`19:55.00`	`DeadZergling`	`well that will cut down on it some`
`19:55.03`	`soulcarverr`	`so basically you just create the view of your dialog`
`19:55.18`	`soulcarverr`	`i usuually use a periodic trigger`
`19:55.29`	`soulcarverr`	`that runs an "update dialogs" action definition`
`19:56.01`	`soulcarverr`	`the update loops through all the players and sets thier dialog items for that player specifically to show what you want that player to see`
`19:56.07`	`DeadZergling`	`seems like it might be more resource friendly to only update on actions that could change the values?`
`19:56.18`	`soulcarverr`	`yes and no`
`19:56.29`	`soulcarverr`	`you then have to pick up on all the events that can change those values`
`19:56.31`	`soulcarverr`	`where as`
`19:56.42`	`soulcarverr`	`if you loop through it every .4 seconds`
`19:56.48`	`soulcarverr`	`and display all the values`
`19:56.56`	`soulcarverr`	`your really not consuming that much cpu time`
`19:57.01`	`soulcarverr`	`and its much less work all around`
`19:57.59`	`DeadZergling`	`true enough, I just try to use as few resources as possible`
`19:58.38`	`DeadZergling`	`Definitely hear what you saying`
`19:59.50`	`soulcarverr`	`cpu time`
`19:59.54`	`soulcarverr`	`is used regardless`
`19:59.59`	`soulcarverr`	`its either being used`
`20:00.03`	`soulcarverr`	`or going to waste`
`20:00.04`	`soulcarverr`	`so`
`20:01.16`	`soulcarverr`	`im also not sure about where you were reading your text from exactly but from the sounds of it you were reading off the players UI and not the unit?`
`20:01.50`	`soulcarverr`	`and that is why when the player selected a different unit it was getting a different values.... because the values on the UI changed?`
`20:02.02`	`soulcarverr`	`i wasnt aware you could read values off of the UI though`
`20:02.51`	`DeadZergling`	`no, the values were off some dummy damage effects`
`20:02.59`	`DeadZergling`	`I had created on the mod side of things`
`20:03.27`	`soulcarverr`	`im not sure how you were getting different values when you selected a differeent unit then...`
`20:03.36`	`soulcarverr`	`were you looking at the catalog field values?`
`20:03.42`	`DeadZergling`	`yep, using dref fields`
`20:03.45`	`DeadZergling`	`the problem was`
`20:03.53`	`soulcarverr`	`what are .... dref fields?`
`20:03.54`	`DeadZergling`	`when you use t hose on a button, in pure data`
`20:04.05`	`DeadZergling`	`you always have the unit you want to hear about`
`20:04.07`	`DeadZergling`	`clicked`
`20:04.14`	`DeadZergling`	`not true for dialog items`
`20:04.20`	`soulcarverr`	`hmm?`
`20:04.25`	`soulcarverr`	`you lost me`
`20:04.31`	`DeadZergling`	`heh, sorry I'll start over`
`20:04.42`	`soulcarverr`	`so you click to open the dialog`
`20:04.46`	`DeadZergling`	`dref field lets you directly access some useful data values`
`20:04.55`	`DeadZergling`	`like damage amount, behavior duration, whatever`
`20:05.04`	`soulcarverr`	`so are you doing a`
`20:05.05`	`DeadZergling`	`which could be updated`
`20:05.31`	`DeadZergling`	`this is very useful when making dynamically updated item/weapon/ability tooltips in Data`
`20:05.35`	`soulcarverr`	`dialog text = get cata log field value of dmg effect for player 1.... fieldname = dmg`
`20:05.45`	`DeadZergling`	`however, it is flakey when used with dialog tooltips`
`20:05.55`	`soulcarverr`	`ok`
`20:06.00`	`DeadZergling`	`right, I had to use get catalog`
`20:06.13`	`DeadZergling`	`so I could specify exactly which player I wanted`
`20:06.14`	`soulcarverr`	`is a dref different from just using the full catalog field value thingy?`
`20:06.30`	`DeadZergling`	`dref simply looks for whatever player owns whatever unit you have selected at the time`
`20:06.39`	`soulcarverr`	`ok ... dont use those`
`20:06.44`	`DeadZergling`	`not for dialogs, no`
`20:06.48`	`DeadZergling`	`I have learned that well, lol`
`20:06.52`	`soulcarverr`	`is dref something you made?`
`20:07.01`	`DeadZergling`	`no, is part of the editor`
`20:07.11`	`soulcarverr`	`is it a variable?`
`20:07.22`	`DeadZergling`	`kind of`
`20:07.31`	`soulcarverr`	`why would it change when you change units?`
`20:07.32`	`DeadZergling`	`it refers to a value in data`
`20:07.35`	`soulcarverr`	`do you tell it to change?`
`20:07.46`	`DeadZergling`	`well, let's put it this way`
`20:07.59`	`DeadZergling`	`if player 1 marine has 2 upgrades, it would be fair to say his damage is 6 + 2, right?`
`20:08.10`	`soulcarverr`	`not exactly`
`20:08.17`	`soulcarverr`	`depends what the upgrades were worth...`
`20:08.19`	`DeadZergling`	`then player 2 has 0 upgrades, he has 6 damage`
`20:08.26`	`DeadZergling`	`im talking base default upgrades`
`20:08.30`	`DeadZergling`	`but yea, true enough`
`20:08.43`	`soulcarverr`	`coulded you just read the units damage?`
`20:08.56`	`DeadZergling`	`the whole idea of using dref values is so it automatically updates to the current value`
`20:09.00`	`DeadZergling`	`which is great in pure data`
`20:09.03`	`DeadZergling`	`but fails in dialogs`
`20:09.11`	`soulcarverr`	`i see`
`20:09.14`	`soulcarverr`	`you could`
`20:09.19`	`soulcarverr`	`so`
`20:09.24`	`soulcarverr`	`say you have a button`
`20:09.27`	`soulcarverr`	`on your unit`
`20:09.38`	`soulcarverr`	`and your using the dref in the button text to display stuff`
`20:09.39`	`soulcarverr`	`?`
`20:09.44`	`DeadZergling`	`right`
`20:09.49`	`soulcarverr`	`why not just read the button`
`20:09.54`	`DeadZergling`	`I can say current damage, current spell cost, etc`
`20:09.58`	`soulcarverr`	`text and display that on the dialog`
`20:10.10`	`soulcarverr`	`read teh button text and display that to the dialog`
`20:10.27`	`soulcarverr`	`i just did something like that for tainted wisp`
`20:10.33`	`soulcarverr`	`for a hero selection thing`
`20:10.40`	`soulcarverr`	`had to display the abilities in dialogs`
`20:10.48`	`soulcarverr`	`off the heros`
`20:10.58`	`soulcarverr`	`works pretty well`
`20:11.35`	`DeadZergling`	`Yea, I'm not sure it would do exactly what I'm looking for though`
`20:11.51`	`soulcarverr`	`why does the dref change when you select a different unit...`
`20:11.57`	`soulcarverr`	`shouldnt it be unit specific?`
`20:12.13`	`DeadZergling`	`I want it to display things like required level, what the new level spell cost would be, what the new damage will be`
`20:12.20`	`DeadZergling`	`that sort of th ing`
`20:12.40`	`DeadZergling`	`maybe this explains it better than I have been`
`20:12.41`	`DeadZergling`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/17879-data-button-tooltip-referencing/`
`20:12.46`	`DeadZergling`	`about dref fields`
`20:14.14`	`soulcarverr`	`ok`
`20:14.16`	`soulcarverr`	`so`
`20:14.34`	`soulcarverr`	`you were able to use dref to get a value to put in your dialog?`
`20:14.40`	`DeadZergling`	`yep`
`20:14.48`	`soulcarverr`	`what did the code look like`
`20:15.01`	`soulcarverr`	`dialog item text = <dref="yatta yatta">`
`20:15.03`	`soulcarverr`	`?`
`20:15.34`	`DeadZergling`	`right, This ability blah blah, Required level <dref="etc"> Required Abilities: etc.`
`20:16.25`	`soulcarverr`	`you were setting the text to be that specifically?`
`20:16.38`	`DeadZergling`	`right`
`20:16.41`	`soulcarverr`	`Do your buttons on the units`
`20:16.48`	`soulcarverr`	`display everything correctly?`
`20:16.54`	`DeadZergling`	`yea, they do, perfectly`
`20:17.04`	`soulcarverr`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:17.04`	`DeadZergling`	`it is never a problem, as you MUST have them selected`
`20:17.07`	`DeadZergling`	`to even see the button`
`20:17.22`	`DeadZergling`	`it completely fails on dialog buttons however`
`20:17.57`	`soulcarverr`	`im thinking.... if the dialogs show you what the specifics units buttons say.... it should work`
`20:18.27`	`soulcarverr`	`the thing is`
`20:18.40`	`DeadZergling`	`Maybe, although I want the dialog buttons to look different, lol`
`20:18.47`	`DeadZergling`	`We are talking about buttons to purchase abilities here`
`20:18.50`	`DeadZergling`	`not to use them`
`20:19.09`	`soulcarverr`	`i see`
`20:19.34`	`soulcarverr`	`its some kind of learn abiltiy dialog?`
`20:19.45`	`soulcarverr`	`why not use the built in Learn abiltiy stuff?`
`20:19.51`	`DeadZergling`	`yea, skill tree, whatever the popular term is nowadays, lol`
`20:19.54`	`soulcarverr`	`that would prolly make your dref stuff work correctly`
`20:20.03`	`soulcarverr`	`ah a tree`
`20:20.21`	`DeadZergling`	`granted I still haven't put in my branches`
`20:20.25`	`soulcarverr`	`your other option`
`20:20.29`	`DeadZergling`	`is just buttons in the right place atm, lol`
`20:20.54`	`soulcarverr`	`is to make an multi dimensional array that holds the information you needs regarding the skill and just pull the needed data from there`
`20:21.18`	`DeadZergling`	`Yea, thought about that, it does work for some simpler things`
`20:21.27`	`soulcarverr`	`array work for anything =)`
`20:21.28`	`DeadZergling`	`like level req, ability reqs, etc`
`20:21.50`	`DeadZergling`	`Yes, but too messy when we start talking about intelligence/wisdom/level influences`
`20:22.01`	`soulcarverr`	`not really`
`20:22.04`	`DeadZergling`	`easier to just grab the catalog value directly`
`20:22.06`	`soulcarverr`	`its easier`
`20:22.36`	`soulcarverr`	`you have intelligence stats?`
`20:22.40`	`soulcarverr`	`that adjust the dmg?`
`20:22.54`	`DeadZergling`	`Maybe, I have it set so Int boosts spell damage, so Wisdom decreases spell cost/chance to crit, and level influences both as well.`
`20:23.13`	`soulcarverr`	`how are you doing that?`
`20:23.26`	`soulcarverr`	`there is not int stat last time i checked`
`20:23.46`	`Bounty`	`Anyone want to bug/play test Ling Ling Rocket?`
`20:24.08`	`DeadZergling`	`oh nothing too complex, just take the base damage and multiply it by int amount * my int const * lvl etc`
`20:24.13`	`DeadZergling`	`is just an algorithm`
`20:24.57`	`DeadZergling`	`I would say something more exact, but I have recently decided I don't like how my wis/int/level/spell levels are set up`
`20:25.04`	`DeadZergling`	`so I am redoing them all`
`20:25.06`	`DeadZergling`	`lol`
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`20:25.46`	`soulcarverr`	`but how`
`20:25.50`	`DeadZergling`	`only 1 in 10000 players would notice/care about the problem, but it bothers me enough to fix it`
`20:25.53`	`soulcarverr`	`are you tracking the stat`
`20:26.10`	`DeadZergling`	`within the hero struct`
`20:26.11`	`soulcarverr`	`the the damage triggered or something?`
`20:26.19`	`soulcarverr`	`its a variable value then`
`20:26.23`	`DeadZergling`	`aye`
`20:26.23`	`soulcarverr`	`not a dmg effect value`
`20:26.31`	`soulcarverr`	`so your applying damage through a trigger?`
`20:26.32`	`Taintedwisp`	`So soulcarverr what did you think about the hero showcase video?`
`20:26.45`	`DeadZergling`	`nope, I'm using a trigger to adjust the damage`
`20:26.48`	`DeadZergling`	`to match the stat`
`20:27.02`	`Taintedwisp`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKoErGCHLxc&feature=plcp Thats a video Showcasing the first hero`
`20:27.06`	`soulcarverr`	`so a ... set catalog field value action?`
`20:27.21`	`DeadZergling`	`currently it adjusts some upgrade levels`
`20:27.30`	`DeadZergling`	`but I'm a little disgusted with how upgrades are handling a few t hings`
`20:27.43`	`DeadZergling`	`so I will be changing a lot of it over to setting a catalog field value very soon`
`20:29.57`	`DeadZergling`	`not all though, the agility/dex/sta/str upgrades are doing their job perfectly well`
`20:30.00`	`DeadZergling`	`no need to change those`
`20:30.20`	`soulcarverr`	`so`
`20:30.28`	`soulcarverr`	`stats are upgrades`
`20:30.44`	`DeadZergling`	`aye, pretty much`
`20:30.44`	`soulcarverr`	`that adjust all the abilities?`
`20:30.47`	`DeadZergling`	`yep`
`20:31.11`	`DeadZergling`	`i just have it so i got str1000, str100, str10, str1`
`20:31.16`	`DeadZergling`	`and based on the values`
`20:31.20`	`DeadZergling`	`it divides between those 4`
`20:31.24`	`DeadZergling`	`to get the value I want`
`20:32.36`	`soulcarverr`	`sounds way over complicated to me lol`
`20:32.52`	`DeadZergling`	`hehe yea, and the worst part is this is after I simplified it`
`20:34.03`	`DeadZergling`	`but it works out pretty well overall, keeps me busy`
`20:34.19`	`DeadZergling`	`stats are actually quite simple, compared to say....`
`20:34.30`	`DeadZergling`	`my triwielding hero weapon equipping system`
`20:34.32`	`DeadZergling`	`lol`
`20:35.48`	`soulcarverr`	`mhmm`
`20:36.12`	`DeadZergling`	`that was an unholy pain in the ass to get working right`
`20:36.20`	`DeadZergling`	`if ever there was one`
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`20:57.13`	`Vailreth`	`hey any one know of an application that lets you bind sound effects ro keys and lets you play them at will?`
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`21:05.24`	`tordy`	`anyone else miss blizz`
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`21:14.35`	`DeadZergling`	`kind of dead in here at times huh, guess people are actually modding`
`21:17.42`	`soulcarverr`	`or afk`
`21:18.02`	`A1win`	`or playing WoW`
`21:20.57`	`DeadZergling`	`yea, or in my case, once again redoing all ability upgrades`
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`21:43.40`	`MGC-Eimtr`	`can any1 tell me which Font Style is used for the 'Searching Game' that is in orange in the multipayer when matching players`
`21:57.24`	`MGC-Eimtr`	`http://i.imgur.com/8Zq2M.png`
`21:57.41`	`MGC-Eimtr`	`is there a font for this or is it colored by orange light?`
`22:20.36`	`Bounty`	`I love when random people come in here thinking they're going to get help`
`22:20.43`	`Bibendus`	`stupid bug`
`22:21.24`	`Bounty`	`They always hang around for about 10 minutes after asking their question and then they realize "There is no help, only the spirit of Sixen"`
`22:22.20`	`DeadZergling`	`Oh, they'll get help sure, just doesn't happen instantly`
`22:22.26`	`DeadZergling`	`takes time`
`22:22.48`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`22:24.28`	`Bounty`	`So, GG Blizz Devs right?`
`22:24.38`	`Bounty`	`We killed them or got them fired`
`22:25.04`	`DeadZergling`	`I blame Mists of Pandaria`
`22:25.13`	`Bounty`	`To bad its a flop`
`22:25.18`	`Vailreth`	`or they dont come on on the weekends and are working hard for some project`
`22:25.27`	`Bounty`	`It has only sold like 5-700k units`
`22:25.32`	`Vailreth`	`like hots in six to eightmonths`
`22:25.34`	`Bounty`	`that is VERY low for a WoW xpac`
`22:25.58`	`DeadZergling`	`Guess their next new race should have hotter females`
`22:26.06`	`DeadZergling`	`that ought to get sales back up for the WoW crowd`
`22:26.09`	`Bounty`	`Tellin ya, they should have launched SC2 with the marketplace and turned it into an entire gaming platform`
`22:26.12`	`Bounty`	`Like Steam`
`22:26.50`	`Vailreth`	`yeah to both bounty and deadzergling +1 to you both`
`22:27.15`	`Bounty`	`We would all be filthy rich right now`
`22:27.40`	`Bounty`	`and Blizz would also have a lot more income than what they get from cupping the balls of Esports`
`22:28.53`	`Vailreth`	`yeah and if they had made diablo 3 moddable and had a way of selling those mods instead of the auction house..`
`22:29.45`	`Vailreth`	`i hesitate to say this but while ahead of the curve in some areas blizzard is behind the times in others`
`22:31.37`	`Bounty`	`I don't think they're ahead of the curve in anyway`
`22:31.44`	`Bounty`	`The only thing i think they are ahead of the curve on is with editors`
`22:32.19`	`Bounty`	`and they should focus on that imo`
`22:32.39`	`Vailreth`	`thats exactly where i mean`
`22:32.56`	`Bounty`	`Like for people like me who have lots of ideas but no coding knowledge`
`22:33.06`	`Bounty`	`I am an untapped resource/market`
`22:33.20`	`Bounty`	`Not like i can move over to Unreal Engine`
`22:33.30`	`Bounty`	`or Unity`
`22:33.35`	`Vailreth`	`right i know how you feel`
`22:33.36`	`Bibendus`	`blizz guys are not showing up anymore?`
`22:33.50`	`Vailreth`	`not really`
`22:34.04`	`Bounty`	`FockeWulf scared them off`
`22:34.06`	`Vailreth`	`but they have never really been on on the weekends`
`22:34.32`	`DeadZergling`	`is simple really, we became a lower priority to them`
`22:34.39`	`DeadZergling`	`due to some change in the company`
`22:34.53`	`DeadZergling`	`we might be a bigger one again in the future, lol`
`22:35.03`	`Bounty`	`I hope not`
`22:35.16`	`Bounty`	`and i hope map makers don't just suddenly forget and forgive if that ever happens`
`22:35.25`	`Bounty`	`They need to learn a lesson`
`22:35.26`	`DeadZergling`	`works that way where I work`
`22:35.34`	`DeadZergling`	`some projects always get priority`
`22:35.47`	`DeadZergling`	`other ones get told to take a hike until we have time for them, lol`
`22:35.50`	`Bounty`	`ok but you don't work at Blizzard`
`22:36.05`	`Bounty`	`I'm not just talking about the two devs who hang out in here lol`
`22:36.19`	`Bounty`	`I'm talking about large scale over the last 2 years`
`22:36.19`	`Vailreth`	`i think as we are narrowing down on HotS they cant be here as much because they are working harder on projects ..`
`22:36.21`	`FockeWulf`	`I scared them off?`
`22:36.22`	`FockeWulf`	`What?`
`22:36.28`	`DeadZergling`	`Nope, I certainly don't, but I can't imagine it varies that greatly from company to company`
`22:36.43`	`DeadZergling`	`in terms of having priorties`
`22:36.48`	`DeadZergling`	`*priorities`
`22:37.06`	`Bounty`	`Like i said, they don't realize how much of a market we could produce for them`
`22:37.14`	`Bounty`	`its free f*cking money`
`22:37.15`	`Bounty`	`for them`
`22:37.27`	`Bounty`	`and better quality out of us due to financial support`
`22:37.30`	`DeadZergling`	`I agree Bounty`
`22:37.49`	`Bounty`	`I personally think it is WAY to late to even think about releasing a map marketplace`
`22:37.52`	`FockeWulf`	`Bounty`
`22:37.57`	`Bounty`	`Because it has been 2 years of free content for the users of bnet`
`22:37.59`	`Bounty`	`They are used to it`
`22:38.09`	`Bounty`	`They will never pay after having free shit for 2 years`
`22:38.16`	`FockeWulf`	`Just an fyi.. My talks with these devs have revealed a complete lack of touch with the custom map community over the last freaking decade.`
`22:38.35`	`Bounty`	`lol i love your wording`
`22:38.41`	`Bounty`	`its like`
`22:38.42`	`FockeWulf`	`I mentioned copyright issues and he believe that no map on bnet was violating copyright.`
`22:38.53`	`Bounty`	`"A wild lack of touch with the custom map community has appeared!"`
`22:39.07`	`Bounty`	`Um`
`22:39.09`	`FockeWulf`	`sigh...`
`22:39.15`	`Bounty`	`He said that for a reason Fockewulf`
`22:39.39`	`Bounty`	`They are not going to go out and hunt down copyrighted material, but if the owner of a copyrighted song or something contacts them and wants it removed they will do it`
`22:39.56`	`Bounty`	`Hence why i had to remove the music from Ling Ling Rocket`
`22:40.08`	`Bounty`	`Because since they're going to promote it, it cannot have copyrighted material`
`22:40.10`	`FockeWulf`	`Bounty you are missing the context`
`22:40.24`	`FockeWulf`	`that was revealed in a discussion bout the Star Trek models`
`22:40.38`	`Bounty`	`He was saying that because he literally cannot say "Yeah we know about it and do nothing"`
`22:40.41`	`Bounty`	`He would get fired`
`22:41.03`	`FockeWulf`	`Probably true if he knew about it.`
`22:41.12`	`Bounty`	`Of course they do`
`22:41.18`	`Bounty`	`They played Photon Discs before lol`
`22:41.26`	`Bounty`	`and Mafia has/had godfather music in it`
`22:41.28`	`Bounty`	`etc`
`22:41.31`	`FockeWulf`	`On the other hand though I have found other areas they are also out of touch.`
`22:41.45`	`Bounty`	`I'm all open eared for those, but the copyright thing you're wrong`
`22:41.48`	`Bounty`	`continue :)`
`22:41.57`	`FockeWulf`	`Actually it has something to do with copyright`
`22:42.21`	`FockeWulf`	`They claim to ownership of all models uploaded to bnet.`
`22:42.28`	`FockeWulf`	`Models that have to be created on software.`
`22:42.54`	`Bounty`	`Pretty sure that is in the EULA`
`22:42.56`	`FockeWulf`	`Only a bare fraction of the modelers can afford the $4000 of professional liscence software for that.`
`22:43.09`	`Bibendus`	`i m becoming the master of texturing :\|`
`22:43.38`	`FockeWulf`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/artist-tavern/42534-showcase-focke-wulfs-models/#p17`
`22:43.43`	`FockeWulf`	`Think you an do something with those?`
`22:43.44`	`Bounty`	`I mean i really don't give a crap anymore Fockewulf and i'm surprised you still even try to talk about this lol`
`22:43.59`	`FockeWulf`	`Thats because I am still actively mapping Bounty`
`22:44.06`	`FockeWulf`	`You see my community revived on me.`
`22:44.08`	`FockeWulf`	`Had no warning.`
`22:44.16`	`Bounty`	`So?`
`22:44.17`	`FockeWulf`	`But its there and I'm getting some fun games.`
`22:44.19`	`Bounty`	`I had the same thing happen`
`22:44.23`	`FockeWulf`	`So I might as well support the maps.`
`22:44.29`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Dryeyece (45130e2a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.19.14.42)`
`22:44.33`	`Bounty`	`I dont need to support Photon Discs`
`22:44.36`	`Bounty`	`its perfectly fine`
`22:44.39`	`Bounty`	`so i guess thats just me`
`22:44.39`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`22:44.47`	`FockeWulf`	`All I ever cared about was playing the games I wanted to.`
`22:44.51`	`FockeWulf`	`Made by me or otherwise.`
`22:45.03`	`Bounty`	`All i ever cared about was playing the games i made`
`22:45.05`	`Bounty`	`>.<`
`22:45.17`	`FockeWulf`	`I actually need to take breaks from my own maps lol.`
`22:45.45`	`FockeWulf`	`Then again in march WW2 Diplo/Fate of the Empire will be 2 years old.`
`22:46.04`	`Bounty`	`I think Doodad Hunt is like... 3 years old now`
`22:46.08`	`Bounty`	`and still gets played`
`22:46.20`	`Bounty`	`even though it is 3 years old and it is just shit code wise`
`22:46.30`	`Bounty`	`awful camera to`
`22:46.31`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`22:46.43`	`FockeWulf`	`Lol WW2 Diplo still holds the record in Actor count :)`
`22:46.45`	`FockeWulf`	`633`
`22:46.59`	`FockeWulf`	`The project is a wee bit bigger :)`
`22:47.58`	`Bounty`	`I hold the record for map count`
`22:48.05`	`Bounty`	`and third person map count`
`22:48.07`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`22:48.08`	`Dryeyece`	`I'm at 1143 atm =p`
`22:48.21`	`Bounty`	`^pwned`
`22:48.23`	`Bounty`	`haha`
`22:48.38`	`Bounty`	`ITS A NEW RRRRRRRRRRRRECORD`
`22:48.49`	`Dryeyece`	`LOL`
`22:50.01`	`Dryeyece`	`Having a problem with abilities not designating a caster or source 8(`
`22:50.17`	`FockeWulf`	`Bounty can you seriously beat 1v1 obs?`
`22:50.33`	`Dryeyece`	`apparently Arm Magazine abilities aren't setting the unit that used it as either caster or source which kind of sucks`
`22:50.40`	`FockeWulf`	`What is the Ability trying to do DryIce?`
`22:51.20`	`Dryeyece`	`To apply a Timed Life Behavior to the unit it is creating, which produces an effect when it is removed`
`22:51.41`	`Dryeyece`	`It does a search which does damage`
`22:52.13`	`Dryeyece`	`If the caster of the behavior was properly set by the ability proucing it, then the damage dealt would be modified by any modifiers on the casting unit`
`22:52.40`	`FockeWulf`	`Try "outer"`
`22:52.59`	`FockeWulf`	`the casting unit is the spawned unit in this case`
`22:53.09`	`FockeWulf`	`not the unit with the arm magazine`
`22:53.09`	`Dryeyece`	`but the damage is going off unscaled and the only explanation is that though the ability cast by Unit A produces effect X the effect X essentially has no caster`
`22:53.18`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Voisin (62d7ff67@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.215.255.103)`
`22:53.21`	`Dryeyece`	`thats not the case either`
`22:53.33`	`Dryeyece`	`because the created unit has a copy of the producing units damage modifiers`
`22:53.53`	`FockeWulf`	`Here send me the map on sc2mapster`
`22:53.59`	`FockeWulf`	`same username`
`22:54.02`	`Dryeyece`	`so if caster was set to either the producing unit or the created unit then the damage would be scaled properly`
`22:54.09`	`Dryeyece`	`I can't do that`
`22:54.31`	`Voisin`	`hey guys`
`22:54.36`	`Dryeyece`	`sup`
`22:54.52`	`FockeWulf`	`My god SC1 Terran music is overpowered :P`
`22:55.16`	`Voisin`	`Vailreth been in today?`
`22:55.30`	`DeadZergling`	`yes, he was about not that long ago`
`22:55.35`	`DeadZergling`	`30-40 mins maybe`
`22:55.52`	`Voisin`	`I'll wait to see if he shows back up then`
`22:56.27`	`DeadZergling`	`yea, his last message was exactly 20 mins ago`
`22:57.06`	`DeadZergling`	`I preferred the Zerg BW music myself`
`22:58.52`	`DeadZergling`	`had a nice "Welcome to hell" feel to it, lol`
`23:00.43`	`Voisin`	`lol`
`23:15.25`	`DeadZergling`	`Anyone ever been sitting there, trying to redesign their system to be better, only to wish, why couldn't I just leave well enough alone?`
`23:16.49`	`A1win`	`I usually just redesign something when I realize how I could've done it better, instead of trying to figure it out on purpose`
`23:17.05`	`tordy`	`you could always do it better`
`23:17.22`	`tordy`	`it's just a matter of whether it's worth the time to invest in making the improvements`
`23:17.28`	`A1win`	`mm...`
`23:17.44`	`tordy`	`if it works fine now, dont redesign the whole thing`
`23:17.55`	`A1win`	`don't fix what ain't broken :x`
`23:18.02`	`tordy`	`i'll fix u!`
`23:19.52`	`DeadZergling`	`yea, but after thinking about them for awhile`
`23:19.58`	`DeadZergling`	`I've deemed them broken enough, lol`
`23:25.09`	`DeadZergling`	`like my intelligence/wisdom stats were only giving benefits based on the first level of the spells, not so much on later levels of them`
`23:25.22`	`Repo`	`New asset: SC2 Map analyzing framework - http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/sc2-map-analyzing-framework/`
`23:26.11`	`Bibendus`	`i m a master texturer now`
`23:26.12`	`Bibendus`	`muahaha`
`23:26.51`	`Bibendus`	`BEHOLD!`
`23:26.56`	`Bibendus`	`http://imageshack.us/a/img5/9272/screenshot2012092901333.jpg`
`23:27.54`	`DeadZergling`	`ummm`
`23:27.59`	`DeadZergling`	`wtf am I looking at`
`23:28.11`	`Bibendus`	`minerals and high yield tiles`
`23:28.20`	`Exaken`	`Why is the screenshot so small?`
`23:28.32`	`DeadZergling`	`it looks like starminecraft or something`
`23:28.33`	`Bibendus`	`stupid resize`
`23:28.46`	`Bibendus`	`it's hive keeper`
`23:28.49`	`Exaken`	`Starminecraft xD`
`23:28.57`	`tordy`	`Jhello!`
`23:29.00`	`Bibendus`	`minecraft suckz compared to this :P`
`23:29.06`	`Bibendus`	`hallo`
`23:29.18`	`Bibendus`	`BEHOLD NOW`
`23:29.19`	`Bibendus`	`http://imageshack.us/a/img69/9272/screenshot2012092901333.jpg`
`23:29.35`	`Exaken`	`Nice`
`23:29.50`	`DeadZergling`	`let the cube jokes commence, blockheads, lol`
`23:30.03`	`Bibendus`	`did u ever play dungeon keeper dead?`
`23:30.09`	`DeadZergling`	`nope`
`23:30.14`	`Exaken`	`:O`
`23:30.20`	`Bibendus`	`awkward`
`23:30.21`	`Bibendus`	`:D`
`23:30.52`	`*** join/#sc2mapster equinox1911_ (~equinox19@217.229.52.228)`
`23:30.52`	`Bibendus`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS8lQ-Zjxsg`
`23:32.17`	`Exaken`	`I played the map earlier and noticed that there is no creep under the nydus, but there is creep under the merc compund`
`23:32.26`	`Bibendus`	`yes`
`23:32.28`	`Bibendus`	`xD`
`23:32.31`	`Exaken`	`lol`
`23:32.32`	`Bibendus`	`i ll fix it someday`
`23:32.37`	`Bibendus`	`xD`
`23:34.35`	`Bibendus`	`u know the stupid useless bugs`
`23:34.40`	`Bibendus`	`that require days to fix?`
`23:34.42`	`Bibendus`	`this is one of them :D`
`23:34.46`	`Exaken`	`haha`
`23:34.55`	`Bibendus`	`maybe not days but ... hours`
`23:35.41`	`Voisin`	`DZ, I don't think Vailreth will be back anytime soon.`
`23:38.10`	`DeadZergling`	`maybe not, just knew I saw him before`
`23:38.19`	`DeadZergling`	`prolly just leave him a PM or something`
`23:38.59`	`Voisin`	`I found him. :)`
`23:39.00`	`Vailreth`	`finger puppets`
`23:39.07`	`Vailreth`	`and cheese wheels`
`23:39.08`	`DeadZergling`	`interesting map, I take it that was the WC3 version of your earlier map bibendus?`
`23:39.29`	`Bibendus`	`no i didn't do it on wc3`
`23:39.31`	`Bibendus`	`only on sc2`
`23:39.40`	`Bibendus`	`the thing you are seeing is the original game`
`23:39.42`	`DeadZergling`	`ah, so borrowing someone's idea from there then`
`23:39.44`	`Voisin`	`Cheese wheels are fun`
`23:39.48`	`DeadZergling`	`okay`
`23:39.56`	`Bibendus`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9CVdtHIL7w`
`23:40.00`	`DeadZergling`	`I completely ignored WC3 as well you see, lol`
`23:40.03`	`Bibendus`	`and this is what I'm doin`
`23:40.05`	`Bounty`	`Who wants to help make a video for Ling Ling Rocket? :)`
`23:40.15`	`Bibendus`	`I`
`23:40.16`	`Bibendus`	`don't`
`23:40.20`	`Bibendus`	`:D`
`23:40.29`	`Voisin`	`Why does that sound like a bad Chinese dick pun?`
`23:40.43`	`Exaken`	`lol`
`23:40.44`	`Bibendus`	`what sound like a chinese dick?`
`23:40.52`	`Voisin`	`Ling Ling Rocket`
`23:41.01`	`Bounty`	`Red rocket`
`23:41.04`	`Bounty`	`RED ROCKET`
`23:41.16`	`Voisin`	`that sounds like a really horrible menstrual pun`
`23:41.25`	`Vailreth`	`hah`
`23:41.27`	`DeadZergling`	`no, it isn't a chinese dick`
`23:41.39`	`DeadZergling`	`but the point of ling ling rocket is to put the zerglings in your hole...`
`23:41.46`	`DeadZergling`	`errr, Rocket I think it is`
`23:41.47`	`Vailreth`	`hah.`
`23:41.49`	`Voisin`	`falls out of chair laughing`
`23:42.10`	`Vailreth`	`this is soo worth a beer .....`
`23:42.11`	`Voisin`	`Zerglings, huh? In my day, young man, we called them sperm.`
`23:42.32`	`Voisin`	`yeah, Vail, I totally agree.`
`23:43.32`	`Voisin`	`ahem... sorry... my brain's in the sewers tonight.`
`23:44.34`	`Bounty`	`Angry Angry Templar featured.... lol`
`23:44.42`	`Vailreth`	`yeah mine isnt very far away`
`23:45.25`	`Voisin`	`It sucks to be a girl sometimes.`
`23:46.10`	`DeadZergling`	`well, I don't really get it bibendus, and I don't think I will today, but is some pretty cool looking control of terrain you got going there`
`23:46.33`	`Bibendus`	`u dig`
`23:46.37`	`Bibendus`	`build rooms`
`23:46.41`	`Bibendus`	`attract creatures`
`23:46.45`	`Bibendus`	`and send them to fight`
`23:46.50`	`Bibendus`	`you can't direct control them however`
`23:48.23`	`tordy`	`>:)`
`23:48.35`	`tordy`	`Bibendus is hive keeper in NA`
`23:48.47`	`Bibendus`	`y`
`23:48.53`	`Bibendus`	`na and eu`
`23:49.05`	`Bibendus`	`i should release the new version soon`
`23:51.03`	`DeadZergling`	`Hrrrmmm I see, when I first saw the goblin`
`23:51.11`	`DeadZergling`	`I was thinking, uhoh, workers about to get raped`
`23:51.34`	`Bibendus`	`goblin :O`
`23:52.18`	`Voisin`	`mmm, goblin rape. Haven't tried that one yet.`
`23:52.22`	`DeadZergling`	`by the way, dumb question here, but the real variable type does allow dependable precision up to 4 decimal places, right?`
`23:52.43`	`Bibendus`	`not sure about that`
`23:52.50`	`Bibendus`	`because even if u can use 4 reals`
`23:52.54`	`Bibendus`	`you can still loose some precision`
`23:53.17`	`Bibendus`	`and I think the precision of decimals depends on the size of the number`
`23:53.54`	`Bibendus`	`so 1.456456 can have more decimals then 12342334534.43`
`23:54.07`	`Bibendus`	`because the integer part is smaller`
`23:54.11`	`Bibendus`	`in the first case`
`23:54.21`	`DeadZergling`	`right, I don't need anything beyond XX.XXXX really`
`23:54.34`	`DeadZergling`	`just trying to see if my algorithms can work in the editor or not`
`23:54.42`	`Bibendus`	`still I see sometimes some approximations`
`23:54.59`	`Bibendus`	`so be careful :P`
`23:55.00`	`DeadZergling`	`right, I see them all the time in the upgrade part of the data editor`
`23:55.18`	`Bibendus`	`oh u are talking about data not triggers`
`23:55.22`	`DeadZergling`	`0.1, no, I think you really wanted .096`
`23:55.26`	`Bibendus`	`then I don't know, the same rule may happen`
`23:55.27`	`DeadZergling`	`oh no, I am talking triggers`
`23:55.34`	`Bibendus`	`oh k`
`23:55.38`	`DeadZergling`	`I am using triggers in hopes of avoiding that retardness`
`23:55.41`	`DeadZergling`	`as much as possible`
`23:56.13`	`DeadZergling`	`nothing real complex, just X * .0025 * Y`
`23:56.25`	`Bibendus`	`whoa 2am`
`23:56.25`	`Bibendus`	`:\|`
`23:56.43`	`DeadZergling`	`errr, X + .0025 * X, be more accurate, lol`
`23:57.02`	`DeadZergling`	`didn't realize it was so late where you at I take it? :)`
`23:57.33`	`Bibendus`	`italy`
`23:58.31`	`DeadZergling`	`Hrrrmm, when you get tired does the moon hit your eye?`
`23:58.44`	`Bibendus`	`wut :\|`
`23:58.54`	`DeadZergling`	`Sorry, disregard that, lol`
`23:59.08`	`DeadZergling`	`Well, you know the song.`
`23:59.17`	`DeadZergling`	`When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie.`
`23:59.20`	`DeadZergling`	`That's amore.`
`23:59.41`	`DeadZergling`	`Maybe the moon hitting your eye is sleepiness?`

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