| 00:00.08 | Zandose | oh |
| 00:00.11 | Zandose | hmm one sec |
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| 00:00.58 | Zandose | your right. i have the trigger somewhere else and am getting messages because of that. i dont remember that happening in earlier versions. |
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| 00:18.23 | Vailreth | hello mapsters |
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| 00:24.20 | Iiris_Frost | I wonder if blizzard ever gave an official statement on if we can use assets from other blizzard games in SC2 maps or not. |
| 00:25.32 | Vailreth | i dont think they can say yes but do not want to say no. |
| 00:25.36 | tordy | literally |
| 00:26.39 | Iiris_Frost | My opinion is why say no since its all blizzard stuff |
| 00:28.46 | Iiris_Frost | I would say it should be allowed but when the marketplace opens maps using blizzard assets outside of SC2 can't make money |
| 00:30.13 | ckSynergy | ok, anyone know if theres a creep model? I want to add some creep around a unit but it seems a creep behavior snaps to the grid |
| 00:30.21 | ckSynergy | just for looks though |
| 00:30.36 | ckSynergy | so if theres an actor or model I should look for |
| 00:31.01 | tordy | exile! |
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| 00:35.16 | Vailreth | not that i am aware of ckSynergy |
| 00:36.02 | ckSynergy | alrighty then |
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| 00:51.38 | TheAlmaity | hmmm.. I think there was something called floating creep pad |
| 00:51.41 | TheAlmaity | or something like that |
| 00:51.44 | TheAlmaity | a weird doodad |
| 00:52.14 | TheAlmaity | looks like a circle of creep |
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| 00:57.42 | Taintedwisp | hey everyone |
| 00:57.59 | Taintedwisp | There almaity, I added some Generic moves that I would love to see in the game :P |
| 01:03.54 | TheAlmaity | Saw the post |
| 01:03.56 | TheAlmaity | replied |
| 01:03.59 | TheAlmaity | probably gonna add mos |
| 01:04.07 | Taintedwisp | Mos? |
| 01:04.09 | Taintedwisp | whats that |
| 01:04.13 | TheAlmaity | most* |
| 01:04.22 | Taintedwisp | ah |
| 01:04.50 | TheAlmaity | not sure about Magnitude though, its such a random move. And Zelda would have to do that one since there's pretty much no data work in there (Can't do camera shake with data, which is like the only visual)( |
| 01:05.26 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 01:05.28 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 01:05.35 | Taintedwisp | i just like the ability itself, the randomness |
| 01:06.04 | Taintedwisp | The main thing is... |
| 01:06.08 | Taintedwisp | Dont forget splash |
| 01:06.12 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 01:06.19 | TheAlmaity | :p |
| 01:06.28 | TheAlmaity | Sc2 has so little water assets >.> |
| 01:06.31 | Vailreth | i am wondering if it would be possible to create my dice monsters game in sc2 |
| 01:06.42 | TheAlmaity | I'm having to use graviton beam impact for all my current water attacks |
| 01:06.44 | Taintedwisp | dice monsters... |
| 01:06.45 | Taintedwisp | ? |
| 01:06.46 | TheAlmaity | making them look all bubbly |
| 01:06.50 | TheAlmaity | never heard of dice monsters |
| 01:06.55 | Taintedwisp | Yu gu oh dice? |
| 01:07.01 | Taintedwisp | thats hte ONLY ones I have ever heard of |
| 01:07.25 | Vailreth | its an ogrinalish idea .. basically you roll dice to conjure monsters and cast spells |
| 01:07.29 | Taintedwisp | Actually you can Use the Singularity for a Water typ emove too |
| 01:07.42 | Taintedwisp | It looks like a whirlpool |
| 01:07.42 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 01:07.45 | Vailreth | each player has a guardian monster and when its defeated they loose |
| 01:07.57 | Vailreth | lose* |
| 01:08.05 | Taintedwisp | that sounds very familiar for some reason |
| 01:08.07 | Taintedwisp | hmmm |
| 01:08.18 | Taintedwisp | I like the ideas that are coming up... |
| 01:08.26 | Taintedwisp | More cartoonish based ideas |
| 01:09.15 | Vailreth | i know of two pokemon style maps that were never finished to my knoweldge |
| 01:09.49 | Taintedwisp | Vailreth I havent watched it since I was a kid, But you should watch the yu gi oh episodes about the dice monsters, you might be able to get some ideas from it, If I remember right it was a pretty Elaborate game. |
| 01:10.04 | Taintedwisp | I THINK its during the first series |
| 01:10.06 | Taintedwisp | but dont remember |
| 01:10.15 | Taintedwisp | its like 3 episodes |
| 01:10.26 | Vailreth | yea it was a little after yugi beats pegasus. |
| 01:10.51 | Taintedwisp | I used to love that show... |
| 01:10.53 | TheAlmaity | Yea, I know of jmanv's poke map |
| 01:10.56 | Taintedwisp | havent seen it in years |
| 01:11.06 | Taintedwisp | JmanV? |
| 01:11.07 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 01:11.07 | TheAlmaity | and I'm planning to finish this one :p I dont leave teamwork maps unfinished |
| 01:11.13 | Taintedwisp | Its funny cause Zelda is Jman |
| 01:11.20 | TheAlmaity | Yea, I know, pretty similar |
| 01:11.29 | TheAlmaity | but yeah, i already made whirlpool |
| 01:11.30 | Taintedwisp | HES A DOUBLE AGENT |
| 01:11.31 | Taintedwisp | llawl |
| 01:11.39 | TheAlmaity | its those spiralling bubbles in the vid |
| 01:11.48 | TheAlmaity | dark warp prism + site ops ftw |
| 01:11.50 | Taintedwisp | I was just saying you could use Singularity as a good Water model |
| 01:12.06 | TheAlmaity | singularity is the mothership vortex, isn't it? |
| 01:12.11 | Taintedwisp | Yeah I think so |
| 01:12.19 | Taintedwisp | Ive used it in a few things |
| 01:12.25 | TheAlmaity | yea, not realy sure how i would use that one for water :/ |
| 01:12.29 | TheAlmaity | could definitely work for air though |
| 01:12.35 | TheAlmaity | maybe even some ice moves |
| 01:12.37 | Taintedwisp | Yeah thats true |
| 01:13.08 | Taintedwisp | I say you revert... back to Starcraft BW pokemon |
| 01:13.08 | Taintedwisp | LOL |
| 01:13.13 | Taintedwisp | that terrible terrible terrible map |
| 01:13.16 | TheAlmaity | :p |
| 01:13.18 | TheAlmaity | never played BW |
| 01:13.23 | Taintedwisp | Though I played the hell outta it... it was terrible |
| 01:13.31 | Taintedwisp | Its one that sucks, but its adictive |
| 01:13.43 | Taintedwisp | you mind controled units and progressed to the other players base |
| 01:15.06 | Vailreth | ive often wondered what would happen if two dark archons mind controlled each other at the same time of you could mind controll them |
| 01:15.44 | TheAlmaity | should try that out with infestors |
| 01:16.59 | Vailreth | maybe.. |
| 01:17.01 | Taintedwisp | I always wondered... Why cant 2 archons merge... |
| 01:17.01 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 01:17.14 | Taintedwisp | sUPERRAINBOWARCHON!!!!! |
| 01:17.22 | Taintedwisp | Thats how it wasmade... |
| 01:19.14 | Vailreth | my question is why can you make a morph ability that has multiple end product unit if they arent actually created |
| 01:19.24 | Vailreth | rather if only one is created |
| 01:20.35 | Vailreth | and i dont see why there are female protoss... |
| 01:20.56 | Taintedwisp | why wouldnt there be female protoss |
| 01:21.23 | Taintedwisp | Can you imagine how pissed off Protoss would be if they couldnt screw... that would suck... Suicide rate 99% no wonder there are so few protoss |
| 01:21.44 | Taintedwisp | Zerg didnt kill auir, homosexuality killed auir... true talk |
| 01:21.46 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 01:23.53 | Vailreth | ok i can see a need for females in aspecies but they wouldnt be physcially divergent like humans are....from what i know female protoss wouldnt have boobs because they arent needed. |
| 01:24.08 | TheAlmaity | They dont. |
| 01:24.17 | TheAlmaity | Female protoss dont have boobies. |
| 01:24.19 | Taintedwisp | They have Tenticles where their boobs should be |
| 01:24.25 | TheAlmaity | Not even that :p |
| 01:24.26 | Taintedwisp | Its a very painful process |
| 01:24.45 | Vailreth | i mean they wouldnt have tranditional feminine curves |
| 01:24.47 | Taintedwisp | They dont get just one hicky, they get 200 Suction sores |
| 01:24.53 | TheAlmaity | They don't? |
| 01:24.54 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 01:25.01 | TheAlmaity | All protoss have a super thin waist |
| 01:25.28 | Taintedwisp | yeah the only thing I noticed, were the eyes and skin color was a tad lighter |
| 01:25.42 | TheAlmaity | Im actually wondering how they managed to make the females look female to us, even though their body shapes are almost equal |
| 01:25.43 | Taintedwisp | Every species has SOMETHING that makes them differentiate the sexes |
| 01:25.47 | TheAlmaity | I guess the lighter colors do the trick |
| 01:25.55 | prencher | Taintedwisp: I'm just going to the ignore the part there where you apparently are not aware that gay people do, in fact, screw |
| 01:26.30 | Taintedwisp | Its not that i am not aware, its that I choose not to think about it |
| 01:26.32 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 01:26.45 | TheAlmaity | But yeah, female protoss look very similar to male protoss. I guess some of their limbs are simply thinner because the males are naturally stronge (which is probably the reason why there are so little females in the military) |
| 01:27.31 | TheAlmaity | another reason we don't see many female protoss is because the protoss are a patriarchic society (The Nerazim are an exception) |
| 01:27.34 | Taintedwisp | Eh Protoss are them real peeps lol |
| 01:27.38 | prencher | Besides, it wouldn't be blizzard if they didn't arbitrarily map human evolution onto any other species |
| 01:27.58 | Taintedwisp | Yeah you could tell when Diablo was a man, and when he came from a women |
| 01:27.59 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 01:28.28 | Taintedwisp | A LOT of creepers thought inm D3 diablo had a nice ass |
| 01:28.29 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 01:30.01 | tordy | damn mouse |
| 01:30.04 | prencher | That was a good one.. Biggest, baddest evil of all time takes over a human female, retains no other human attributes, not even voice, just the boobs and the ass |
| 01:30.14 | prencher | Metzen Logic™ |
| 01:30.16 | TheAlmaity | lol... was kinda lame |
| 01:30.36 | Khalint | diablos voice contains her voice |
| 01:31.01 | Vailreth | http://www.wfbrood.com/sc2/UploadFiles_1348/201011/20101109104355936.jpg |
| 01:31.13 | Vailreth | i wnat this as my splash screen when the game stats up |
| 01:31.21 | Khalint | lol |
| 01:31.24 | TheAlmaity | btw, prencher, still reworking site code or working on some new features already? |
| 01:31.56 | TheAlmaity | lol, awesome pic vail |
| 01:31.59 | prencher | that's my cue to leave! |
| 01:32.09 | TheAlmaity | lol |
| 01:33.05 | TheAlmaity | well, im off as well, nite |
| 01:33.11 | Taintedwisp | There Almaity, Theres a comfounded warped suggestion which will make no sense to you |
| 01:33.12 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 01:34.08 | Taintedwisp | Night almaity |
| 01:34.20 | TheAlmaity | I saw your suggestion, prefer the current system |
| 01:34.25 | TheAlmaity | simpler :p |
| 01:34.36 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 01:34.37 | TheAlmaity | anyway, night |
| 01:34.40 | Taintedwisp | peace |
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| 03:18.16 | Taintedwisp | HEY QUICK QUESITON How DO I hide the resource |
| 03:19.12 | Taintedwisp | Vailreth do you know |
| 03:23.09 | Iiris_Frost | Anyone wanna help with a rpg map? |
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| 13:38.02 | Siretu | Hey, anyone know a way to change the position of a death effect through site operations? |
| 13:38.26 | Siretu | Since the death effect is usually just a model, I can't do it as I would normally. |
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| 14:00.30 | Bibendus | what do you mean by changing the position of a death effect? :O |
| 14:07.16 | Siretu | I have a flying unit |
| 14:07.23 | Siretu | and the death effect is placed at the ground |
| 14:07.54 | Siretu | I assumed I could easily raise it in the air with a local offset site operation |
| 14:08.03 | Siretu | But the death effect is just a model |
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| 14:26.08 | Bibendus | can't you check how other units death effect work? |
| 14:26.28 | Bibendus | maybe you don't need a sop |
| 14:26.39 | Bibendus | but just to give a good reference to the death unit |
| 14:26.44 | Bibendus | so he can be placed on the same position |
| 14:27.10 | Bibendus | btw i suck at data editing, that's why I'm telling you to check how other flying units death animations work |
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| 14:32.52 | Ahli | What's the prob? |
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| 15:09.32 | Bibendus | his flying unit death animation |
| 15:09.40 | Bibendus | is on ground instead of air |
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| 15:16.58 | Ahli | Is the used model a "unit death"? is the used death actor the default one? did he accidentially modify it? |
| 15:17.25 | Ahli | model's type for death models is important |
| 15:24.03 | Stewox | ahli |
| 15:24.25 | Stewox | can i make a unit out of multiple models quickly glued together ? |
| 15:24.38 | Stewox | should i start from scratch or copy existing ? |
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| 15:29.11 | Ahli | unit out of multiple models? hmm, you just start with your base unit and then I would create the other parts via actor creation -> create NextPart... that next part actor should be a model with continuous animation. maybe you can use the new actor message to create a model and attach it. I didn't test that, yet. But I've never build a unit out of many models, yet. I'm only attaching a few things to the core model atm. |
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| 15:32.21 | Morato | hi |
| 15:32.34 | Morato | noob check'n in |
| 15:33.09 | Ahli | You are now checked in and ready to noob. |
| 15:33.33 | Morato | hi |
| 15:33.57 | Morato | im trying to lowere the cooldown time on the stalker-blink ability |
| 15:34.28 | TheSkunk__ | Under the Cost feild under the ability |
| 15:34.29 | Morato | i ran across this help on the sc2mapster website |
| 15:34.32 | Morato | Abilites/select ability and look for CAbilityEffect_Cost_Cooldown_Timeuse. |
| 15:34.36 | Morato | but don't understand it |
| 15:35.07 | TheSkunk__ | First thing to do is set up your view options, thats probably what is confusing you |
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| 15:35.15 | Morato | probly |
| 15:35.34 | Morato | i don't see cost field |
| 15:35.50 | Morato | im in abilities, stalker-blink |
| 15:35.50 | TheSkunk__ | Under the view tab |
| 15:35.56 | TheSkunk__ | on the toolbar at the top |
| 15:36.04 | TheSkunk__ | make sure you have show advanced values |
| 15:36.08 | TheSkunk__ | and show default values |
| 15:36.21 | Morato | checked |
| 15:36.26 | TheSkunk__ | OK, good |
| 15:36.54 | TheSkunk__ | sorry watching IEM finals and its at an exciting part |
| 15:37.06 | Morato | what tab do i select? Cost? |
| 15:37.10 | TheSkunk__ | yes |
| 15:37.15 | Morato | selected |
| 15:37.51 | TheSkunk__ | under cost |
| 15:37.59 | TheSkunk__ | under the cost tab |
| 15:38.02 | TheSkunk__ | click on that |
| 15:38.11 | TheSkunk__ | then under cooldown, change "Time Use" |
| 15:38.30 | Morato | yea.. ic Cooldown - Link, Location, Time Start, Time Use |
| 15:38.39 | Morato | time use is set to 10.0 |
| 15:38.44 | TheSkunk__ | Yep, Time Use is the one you want to chance |
| 15:38.46 | TheSkunk__ | change |
| 15:38.47 | Morato | change that? |
| 15:38.48 | TheSkunk__ | that is the cooldown |
| 15:38.49 | TheSkunk__ | yep |
| 15:38.52 | Morato | excellent.. thank u |
| 15:38.55 | Morato | i'll try now |
| 15:39.00 | TheSkunk__ | Time Start would be to have it start will a cooldown |
| 15:39.31 | Morato | sweet... worked |
| 15:39.32 | TheSkunk__ | hooollly crap |
| 15:39.33 | Morato | thx mate |
| 15:39.36 | TheSkunk__ | what weird game |
| 15:39.39 | TheSkunk__ | No problem :D |
| 15:39.48 | Morato | another question... |
| 15:40.02 | Morato | how do i change the letter assingned to use it? |
| 15:40.08 | Morato | its currently B |
| 15:40.09 | TheSkunk__ | That would be the Button |
| 15:40.16 | Morato | kk |
| 15:40.23 | TheSkunk__ | Go to buttons tab, search for blink, you can change hotkey there |
| 15:40.50 | Morato | perfect, there it is |
| 15:40.59 | TheSkunk__ | =) |
| 15:41.00 | Stewox | ok tnx ahli |
| 15:41.06 | Morato | glad i found this chat.... makes getting answers very easy |
| 15:41.37 | TheSkunk__ | Sick 2-rax into 3-rax and SCV pull, really close and lasted quite a while |
| 15:43.50 | Morato | im using it to blink my scv... not a big deal, but it shows initially the staker blinking. is there a way to turn that model off so only the scv blinks? |
| 15:45.46 | TheSkunk__ | Yeaaaa there is.. thats a bit more tricky, you have to do stuff with actors |
| 15:45.51 | Morato | speeding up the animation to 100 seems to visually fix it.. but seems there would be a way to turn the model off |
| 15:46.04 | TheSkunk__ | Go to actors, search for blink |
| 15:46.22 | Morato | kk there |
| 15:46.27 | TheSkunk__ | Blink Origin Model, Blink Stop Model |
| 15:46.36 | Morato | kk |
| 15:46.39 | TheSkunk__ | Those are the models it uses for starting\finishing blink |
| 15:46.54 | TheSkunk__ | You could either get rid of em or change it to an SCV model, but either way -- thats what is making the stalker appear |
| 15:47.13 | Ahli | it was 4 rax, skunk :D |
| 15:47.15 | Morato | kk, i'll play with it a bit.. thx |
| 15:47.57 | TheSkunk__ | Sorry, Ahli |
| 15:48.04 | TheSkunk__ | was a bit distracted by helping this guy :P |
| 15:48.11 | TheSkunk__ | Also Morato |
| 15:48.14 | TheSkunk__ | Under view |
| 15:48.26 | TheSkunk__ | Have Show Object Explorer |
| 15:48.28 | TheSkunk__ | checked |
| 15:48.39 | TheSkunk__ | You can see when things are linked to other things |
| 15:48.48 | Morato | its checked also |
| 15:48.59 | TheSkunk__ | ie on the blink ability, you could see the Blink Button and the Blink actors there |
| 15:49.06 | TheSkunk__ | so you can get to them easier |
| 15:49.14 | TheSkunk__ | OK, just making sure |
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| 16:05.27 | Morato | skunk, without making this too difficult, seems changing the scale from 1.0 to 0.01 of the Origin Model works... suppose its just making the stalker so small u can't see it |
| 16:06.21 | TheSkunk__ | heh, thats one way to do it |
| 16:07.02 | TheSkunk__ | Like I said, you could've simply changed the model to an SCV, or another way to do it was to change the events\delete it so it simple is not created when the spell is cast |
| 16:07.09 | TheSkunk__ | But that works, too, so |
| 16:07.32 | Morato | kk.. i found where to change the model to scv.. will try |
| 16:09.04 | Morato | yup, that worked.. but leaves the svc there for the time it took the stalker to disapear... bout 1 second... seems i would need to modifty that time |
| 16:09.06 | TheSkunk__ | You don't have to do this -- but as a tip, under Events for the actor, Where it says Effect.Blink.Start -- that means when the effect "Blink" is started, it creates the actor |
| 16:09.32 | TheSkunk__ | Just so you know how actors work =] |
| 16:09.42 | Morato | looking... |
| 16:10.21 | TheSkunk__ | What View do you have it set to - Detail View, XML view, or Table view? |
| 16:14.19 | Hobrow | 33°C anyone got more? |
| 16:14.32 | TheSkunk__ | o.0 |
| 16:15.14 | Hobrow | when i go down into the basement its like crossing 5climate zones |
| 16:15.18 | TheSkunk__ | :P |
| 16:15.29 | TheSkunk__ | Well, I gotta go, later guys |
| 16:20.55 | Deaod | 35°C here |
| 16:29.38 | Ahli | 35,5 |
| 16:29.45 | Bibendus | let's see if my map transposition trigger works at first try! |
| 16:29.48 | Ahli | plus heating laptop next to me |
| 16:33.20 | Bibendus | only 34° |
| 16:33.22 | Bibendus | lol |
| 16:35.52 | muzzy | i only got 27C but it's the indoor temperature :( |
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| 16:37.43 | Hobrow | thats what matters |
| 16:37.54 | Hobrow | or are you sitting outside? |
| 16:39.42 | muzzy | well, are you sitting in the 33C temperature yourself? :) |
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| 17:04.04 | muzzy | bingo: http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/about/legal-faq.html ... Yes, we encourage players to create maps and trade them on the Internet so long as they are not for sale or profit, nor any other commercial purpose as defined solely by Blizzard Entertainment®. |
| 17:07.54 | zenx1 | still going on with same stuff ? :D |
| 17:08.35 | muzzy | why yes, i am |
| 17:08.52 | zenx1 | best way to fight it is just not to buy their games |
| 17:10.28 | muzzy | blizzard's? but i've already bought them, and fine with whatever terms they have as long as there's some legal text somewhere that i can read |
| 17:17.37 | Motive | slaps JademusSreg around a bit with a large trout |
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| 17:26.59 | Eiviyn | I swear I could just mash my keyboard and get half these captchas right |
| 17:27.36 | muzzy | captchas <3 |
| 17:27.58 | Eiviyn | There was one that was basically an i, half offscreen |
| 17:28.04 | Eiviyn | I entered "i" |
| 17:28.07 | zenx1 | but god the freenode has the most confusing catchas ever |
| 17:28.08 | Eiviyn | Told me I got it wrong |
| 17:28.08 | zenx1 | so its only fair |
| 17:28.31 | muzzy | use a real irc client if you dont like it :o |
| 17:28.38 | Eiviyn | Given half the others barely resemble words and they still accepted my random letters, I felt offended |
| 17:28.56 | muzzy | mm, sounds like recaptcha |
| 17:29.09 | zenx1 | are you working on anything interesting eiv? |
| 17:29.12 | zenx1 | or just battleships |
| 17:29.40 | muzzy | recaptcha is used to scan books, so they're stuff from real books ... and they only know one of the two words they ask you |
| 17:29.49 | muzzy | so even if you enter "nigger" for the other one, it'll be accepted |
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| 17:34.50 | Eiviyn | hi u konow about bags in warships test/ ? |
| 17:35.01 | Eiviyn | Fucking bags |
| 17:35.04 | Eiviyn | Ruining my map |
| 17:35.54 | zenx1 | lol bags? |
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| 18:37.25 | muzzy | so, i linked the blizzard legal faq to forums of MineralZ Evolution (eu one), quoting the part which states that making profit from maps isn't okay. what happens? he just deleted my post and sent private message telling me to stop |
| 18:38.04 | muzzy | time to see if blizzard takes action based on this information :p |
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| 18:39.19 | Exaken | Is he making profits of map then? |
| 18:39.46 | MGC-Eimtr | can any1 tell me, a Camera object is following a target from too far.. it had distance 4, setting distance to e,g 1 or 0.0003 doesn't change it what else? |
| 18:40.47 | muzzy | he's selling in-game stats |
| 18:41.02 | muzzy | so yea, that counts as "making profit" in my book |
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| 18:42.50 | muzzy | the other "mineralz evolution" used to sell in-game content too iirc ... they had this "bonus planet" which was only accessible if someone in the game was a donor. i wonder if they're still doing that |
| 18:43.44 | zenx1 | I think none of us care |
| 18:43.53 | zenx1 | you know most of us are actually map makers? |
| 18:45.04 | Totservis | i think inserting in a map features that rely on "bought" factor is like to insert a hack in your own map |
| 18:45.38 | Totservis | someone will edit his bank and get all your features making gameplay boring when playing with others |
| 18:45.46 | Totservis | bad idea imho :( |
| 18:46.16 | muzzy | zenx1: i know you guys are map makers |
| 18:46.39 | Ahli | if it is sold via player handle checks, you can't hack it |
| 18:46.55 | Ahli | but it would require a map update after each change |
| 18:46.59 | muzzy | anyway, i'm an idealist - i believe the maps should be environments in which all players stand on equal footing with equal oppoturnities |
| 18:47.11 | Exaken | I can't find anything about buying stuff on that forum |
| 18:47.22 | muzzy | discriminating players because they didn't pay money goes against my idea of what maps should be like |
| 18:47.39 | muzzy | http://mineralzevolution.space-forums.net/ |
| 18:47.41 | Ahli | I hate pay 2 win, too. |
| 18:47.42 | muzzy | this one |
| 18:48.07 | muzzy | there are to maps with the same name, "mineralz evolution" ... the US one has cheevos and silly stuff, the EU one has archons |
| 18:48.08 | Ahli | just don't play it and give it a bad review based on that. |
| 18:48.22 | Exaken | yes I'm looking there, unless I've to register to see certain forums, I'm not seeing it |
| 18:48.34 | muzzy | not seeing? there should be 3 subforums |
| 18:48.51 | muzzy | "Suggestions Mineralz Evolution" "Bugs report" and "Buy levels, skins or contents" |
| 18:48.51 | Exaken | nvm |
| 18:48.55 | Exaken | lol |
| 18:48.56 | muzzy | :D |
| 18:49.02 | Exaken | I'm just blind |
| 18:49.06 | muzzy | yea, right under your nose |
| 18:49.09 | Totservis | i prefer achievement system instead of "buy 2 gain" |
| 18:49.32 | muzzy | achievement system is kinda okay. but i dont like the idea of hard achievements for unlocking progress when it's not secure |
| 18:49.54 | muzzy | in mineralz evolution, you need to survive 5+ hour game to unlock that final archon |
| 18:50.08 | Ahli | are the banks fixed already? |
| 18:50.09 | Totservis | that's why achievements have to be not hard till there are no server banks yet :) |
| 18:50.29 | muzzy | so will there be server banks, with server execution of map code? |
| 18:50.41 | Totservis | i wish it will be |
| 18:50.44 | Ahli | I'm not sure, if you are able to corrupt other players banks with having a huge bank yourself |
| 18:50.49 | Ahli | anymore |
| 18:50.54 | muzzy | mmmm |
| 18:51.00 | Totservis | but server banks mean that servers will have more pressure on them |
| 18:51.20 | Totservis | not because of they have to store them |
| 18:51.20 | Ahli | because most maps have an automatic bank reset sh*t which is basically triggered with the bank limitation. |
| 18:51.22 | muzzy | yes, servers would have to execute all map code too and thus all game logic ... someone said they already do this though? |
| 18:51.28 | Totservis | but because of much operations of editing them |
| 18:51.38 | Motive | Totservis: not really |
| 18:52.04 | Motive | Bank editing is done locally, the map is already in the server's memory. The BankSave() call is the only I/O-bound function. |
| 18:52.16 | Totservis | Motive: as for example: Photon Cycles edit banks every second. |
| 18:52.23 | Motive | Why does that matter though? |
| 18:52.45 | Ahli | I wonder if these guys add something that "accidentally" resets their banks on map start with a chance of 0,01 percent or something like that |
| 18:53.36 | Vailreth | wouldnt you just have a temp bank on the local end that is writen and read from while playing and then is used to update the server bank when finished? |
| 18:53.38 | muzzy | desyncs can reset banks, and improper use of asynchronous triggers is probably to blame |
| 18:53.59 | muzzy | Vailreth: that wouldn't be secure, if the client can still dictate its contents |
| 18:54.08 | Ahli | I've never had a bank failing for me... |
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| 18:54.19 | Ahli | unless it was caused by the size limitation |
| 18:54.26 | Stewox | hi |
| 18:54.29 | Motive | Vailreth: No need, we already know the game itself is stored in Blizzard's server's memory |
| 18:54.39 | Totservis | Vailreth: then u still be able to edit your bank as u like and then update server one with the edited by u :) |
| 18:54.42 | muzzy | i've had bankfile resetting in bunch of maps .. pretty much always when it ends with desync |
| 18:55.12 | Vailreth | but how would you edit the bank while playing the game? |
| 18:55.31 | Motive | Memory editing? :P |
| 18:55.32 | Ahli | right click, open in editor? |
| 18:55.34 | muzzy | by running a different map than the game thinks it's running |
| 18:55.45 | Totservis | by simulating play for example :) |
| 18:55.58 | Ahli | just kill sc2's process? |
| 18:56.19 | Ahli | most maps don't randomly save the stats... |
| 18:56.44 | Motive | you guys are looking at this wrong. if blizzard wanted to implement server-side banks it'd be easy. The running games are already stored in the server's memory, so the banksave() call would just write to persistent blizzard-side storage. The game is already hosted, so at the beginning of the map, instead of everyone uploading their banks to the server, then the server sending the banks to |
| 18:56.45 | Motive | everyone, Blizzard would just send everyone's banks to everyone. |
| 18:57.30 | muzzy | motive, do you have any links or references about this? that the games are running on the server side |
| 18:57.35 | Motive | yes |
| 18:57.37 | Motive | that's the selling point of battle.net 2.0 |
| 18:57.40 | Motive | :| |
| 18:57.43 | muzzy | i'd like to read more about it |
| 18:58.10 | Eiviyn | Pretty sure it isn't that easy, else they'd have done it already |
| 18:58.17 | Ahli | problem is that the code and gui needs to be created to modify the banks and might allow players to delete their banks. Blizzard's problem is that they have a ton of stuff they want to do. so that might be on the bottom half of their huge list |
| 18:59.28 | Stewox | DO i need to set unit repair time to make it repairable ? |
| 18:59.58 | Stewox | I have a system of many subunits selectable and targetable, and acts as one unit |
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| 19:03.29 | Eiviyn | No |
| 19:03.44 | Eiviyn | There are 2 ways to repair a unit |
| 19:03.51 | MGC-Eimtr | <MGC-Eimtr> can any1 tell me, a Camera object is following a target from too far.. it had distance 4, setting distance to e,g 1 or 0.0003 doesn't change it what else? |
| 19:03.53 | Eiviyn | One is a repair ability that just has a static value |
| 19:03.59 | Eiviyn | So it repairs, say, 10 life per sec |
| 19:04.05 | Eiviyn | The other is to use repair time |
| 19:04.20 | Eiviyn | So, say, a unit always takes 60 sec to be repaired |
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| 19:04.58 | Stewox | aaha i get it , it takes 60 sec for 0 to full, the added % of health is % less time |
| 19:05.04 | Stewox | the existing not added * |
| 19:08.19 | MGC-Eimtr | Does any1 know why my Camera Object follows a unit from too far? I didnt change anything and with patch 1.5 my cameras on the map appear way below the surface so I had to reset them, now distance is 4 and even if u dud ut 0.0003 it still follows the unit from too far |
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| 19:10.46 | Stewox | ~seen mkmisfit |
| 19:10.51 | purl | mkmisfit <4cd015c6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.208.21.198> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 4d 1h 41m 38s ago, saying: '2.6 megabytes?'. |
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| 19:30.15 | ckSynergy | does anyone else here have problems with the editor crashing and corrupting your map/mod files? |
| 19:30.50 | Vailreth | i have not seen that issue |
| 19:31.05 | ckSynergy | happens frequently to me |
| 19:31.25 | ckSynergy | actually, its worse yet |
| 19:31.47 | ckSynergy | Ill run the game test mode, the game will freeze forcing me to do a reboot (otherwise itll freeze every time) |
| 19:32.03 | ckSynergy | and when that happens, doesnt matter if I save in the editor or not, the file gets corrupted |
| 19:32.39 | ckSynergy | Vailreth: does it editor lag for you? |
| 19:32.41 | Vailreth | strange |
| 19:32.53 | ckSynergy | *the |
| 19:32.55 | muzzy | are you sure your computer is fine? like, faulty memory, faulty power supply, something? |
| 19:32.56 | Vailreth | not really |
| 19:33.24 | ckSynergy | positive my computer is fine |
| 19:33.41 | ckSynergy | my memory better not be faulty lol |
| 19:33.58 | ckSynergy | What are yalls computer specs? |
| 19:33.59 | Eiviyn | Definitely your computer |
| 19:34.26 | muzzy | i had a faulty PSU some years ago, which caused graphics errors and crashes when the graphics card got overloaded |
| 19:34.42 | muzzy | replacing the power supply fixed it and everything ran smooth afterwards |
| 19:34.55 | ckSynergy | its a laptop muzzy |
| 19:35.04 | Vailreth | is anything else crashing or lagging? |
| 19:35.07 | ckSynergy | no |
| 19:35.09 | ckSynergy | just the game |
| 19:35.13 | zenx1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8EtoWMGAtg&feature=player_embedded#! |
| 19:35.18 | zenx1 | humanity is interesting |
| 19:35.32 | Stewox | vail |
| 19:35.42 | ckSynergy | can yall tell me your computer specs? |
| 19:35.43 | Stewox | you remember when i was talking about hardpoints |
| 19:35.47 | Vailreth | is interesting a new word for stupid? just asking before i think about watching |
| 19:35.51 | Stewox | can't find that stuff on sc2mapster now |
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| 19:36.20 | Vailreth | sorry Stewox i do not recall, i have a very bad memory. |
| 19:40.16 | Vailreth | Nvidia Geforce 9500 GT graphics card, amd athlon 64 dual core 6000+ processor and 6 gb ram of somekind |
| 19:41.13 | muzzy | my computers specs: iMac 27" ... uh, cant remember what year's model etc, not the latest anyway. i kinda gave up on the whole PC world for a while few years ago |
| 19:41.49 | ckSynergy | hm ok |
| 19:43.11 | Vailreth | first time i tested a map after updating to 1.5 offical my pc blue screened |
| 19:44.21 | muzzy | i got kinda depressed at windows because microsoft was shipping backdoor drivers with OS to be used for DRM purposes, so i picked a mac .. but the apple evil empire isn't all that great either. unfortunately there aren't more alternatives if i want to play games :( |
| 19:45.07 | Vailreth | steam for linux is coming but that dosent help for blizz games |
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| 19:49.58 | Iiris_Frost | damn, no sixen |
| 19:50.24 | Exaken | Where do you need Sixen for? |
| 19:52.40 | Iiris_Frost | I lost a map he gave me |
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| 20:01.43 | Iiris_Frost | grrrrr |
| 20:01.46 | zenx1 | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2189877/Meet-Face-Kini-latest-craze-hit-Chinas-beaches-bathers-wear-masks-beat-suns-harmful-rays.html |
| 20:01.52 | Iiris_Frost | can't figure this shit out |
| 20:01.55 | Ahli | this strange internet drops me out of irc all the time |
| 20:02.13 | zenx1 | humanity is interesting part2 |
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| 20:03.18 | Kubi | Back fromCAMPING! |
| 20:03.27 | Kubi | And I got punched in the fucking face last night. :< |
| 20:03.47 | Khalint | sounds fun |
| 20:04.21 | Iiris_Frost | How do you make a completely new custom frame in a new UI layout for like a new image that you can hookup? |
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| 20:06.48 | Iiris_Frost | I guess no one cares to help. (no surprise there) |
| 20:07.36 | Khalint | iiris you have very high expectations of this channel and people in general |
| 20:07.40 | Khalint | we are not here to hold your hand |
| 20:07.46 | Khalint | figure it out |
| 20:07.55 | Khalint | you can ask but dont get huffy if noone responds |
| 20:08.07 | Khalint | half the people here are either afk or dont know |
| 20:12.48 | Eiviyn | Why should people help you when you can't help yourself |
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| 20:17.25 | Iiris_Frost | I've been trying to figure it out but nothing works |
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| 20:19.50 | Iiris_Frost | omfg |
| 20:20.48 | zenx1 | haha. Hey guys Im kinda low on money could you maybe throw me couple millions? |
| 20:21.02 | zenx1 | no? (no suprise here) |
| 20:22.48 | Iiris_Frost | I've set it all up correctly like other UI layout frames, but it won't work |
| 20:23.26 | Khalint | did you make sure its not default hidden |
| 20:24.10 | Iiris_Frost | yes |
| 20:24.17 | Exaken | Maybe you should try to add them in the Game UI Data or use triggers to hook them |
| 20:24.42 | Eiviyn | How do you get by in life when you're both incompetent and short-tempered? |
| 20:24.48 | Eiviyn | That sounds like a horrific combination |
| 20:27.18 | Khalint | hrm to cache an items stats or always calculate them on equip |
| 20:27.24 | Khalint | that is the question |
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| 20:33.25 | Iiris_Frost | I really need some help with this shit |
| 20:34.29 | Motive | Unfortunately, while we wish we could assist you with shit, shit is outside the scope of support we provide here at #sc2mapster. May I suggest a doctor or perhaps nurse? |
| 20:36.52 | Iiris_Frost | Sc2mapster is a mapping community, correct? |
| 20:37.10 | Iiris_Frost | so then this is a place to get help with said stuff |
| 20:37.59 | Motive | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:38.11 | Vailreth | what are you trying to do, what have you done till this point and where are you noticing the disconnect? |
| 20:38.49 | Iiris_Frost | Vailreth: what does disconnect have to do with UI issues? |
| 20:38.59 | Motive | The 'disconnect' between what's happening and what you want to happen |
| 20:39.02 | Motive | Not a literal disconnect. |
| 20:41.29 | Iiris_Frost | added a new layout called 'UITest' with a new frame type of image called 'Test' with <Texture val="Assets\Textures\btn-ability-protoss-blink-color.dds"/>. then run Dialog - Hooks up an existing Image in the standard UI called "UITest/Test" followed by Dialog - Show (Last created dialog item) for (All players) but it says it can't hookup that frame |
| 20:42.00 | Ahli | tried to use "\" instead of "/" ? |
| 20:42.32 | Ahli | in the hookup action |
| 20:42.53 | Iiris_Frost | examples of UI hookup worked fine using "/" |
| 20:43.38 | Iiris_Frost | and no "\" didn't work either |
| 20:43.41 | Iiris_Frost | just tried it |
| 20:44.17 | Ahli | was just a guess :S no idea then. I haven't tinkered with the hookup thing yet |
| 20:44.50 | Vailreth | is there a trutorial i could look at to get my bearings on this issue? |
| 20:45.29 | Ahli | renee had a small example map with that I think. |
| 20:46.14 | Iiris_Frost | but she used standard UI items |
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| 20:48.29 | tordy | anyone here familiar with terrain randomization? |
| 20:49.53 | Vailreth | Iiris i am testing some things now give me a few minutes if you can |
| 20:50.26 | Iiris_Frost | ok |
| 20:51.49 | Vailreth | would you be willing to share your test frame xml with me to speed up my test? |
| 20:54.00 | Iiris_Frost | There's the map in your pm |
| 20:54.05 | Iiris_Frost | its only a test map |
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| 21:28.47 | tordy | yep |
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| 21:39.12 | Taintedwisp | I love screwing with poeple and debun king their simple logic. |
| 21:39.15 | Taintedwisp | Debunking |
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| 22:05.19 | Vailreth | could any one point me to a tutorial on how to edit the command card with the ui editor? |
| 22:06.13 | Vailreth | if one exists .. |
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| 22:06.54 | Taintedwisp | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/player-zone/map-suggestions-requests/41586-epic-game-creation/#p10 |
| 22:06.58 | Taintedwisp | Who won that discussion |
| 22:06.59 | Taintedwisp | ? |
| 22:07.30 | tordy | you did |
| 22:08.29 | tordy | didnt even read |
| 22:08.34 | tordy | just gonna say you cuz ur so tainted |
| 22:08.54 | Taintedwisp | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/6369047211?page=2 |
| 22:09.20 | Taintedwisp | and I pretty much killed both the complainers there to, and now all they have is petty sayings.. |
| 22:09.31 | Taintedwisp | Ahhh I love it when I get into Debate mood |
| 22:09.35 | Taintedwisp | WHERE DA FUK IS RODRIGO |
| 22:09.37 | Taintedwisp | LOL |
| 22:09.47 | tordy | Taintedwisp are you familar with random terrain generation? |
| 22:09.51 | tordy | \ |
| 22:10.04 | Taintedwisp | I had thoughts of Dabbling into it, but not yet |
| 22:10.18 | tordy | im guessing Ahli is since he made the diablo map |
| 22:10.20 | tordy | gee i hope so! |
| 22:10.22 | tordy | >:[ |
| 22:10.48 | Taintedwisp | the randomly generated terrains In my experience are usually, Kinda terrible |
| 22:11.07 | Taintedwisp | stupid stuff tends to happen, like areas will be completely blocked off |
| 22:11.27 | Taintedwisp | No need to be raging mad, really. I really don't care what they do, but my campaign against ban-listing will not end until Blizzard puts it in publicly available text that ban-listing is not against the EULA. This was already stated. You've only proven that you're an ignorant child by not reading what was already said. Anyway, the "arcade" is nothing. Real players play StarCraft, not customs. The game is called "StarCraft I |
| 22:11.30 | Taintedwisp | Thats all thats left |
| 22:11.32 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:11.34 | tordy | well it doesnt have to be completely random |
| 22:11.39 | tordy | it could work like diablo 3 does it |
| 22:11.44 | Taintedwisp | WIN!!! |
| 22:12.09 | tordy | i know diablo 3 uses parts and just sews them together in some way |
| 22:12.36 | tordy | what im wondering is how would it be done in sc2? |
| 22:12.42 | Taintedwisp | You'd be hard-pressed to prove that the majority of players regularly play Squad TD. I remember, before the update, counting up the hours played of the top few pages. Squad TD would be around 25k, while the rest of the maps combined would be around 70k. My point is that "mass appeal" is arbitrary. You won't get the majority of players but you can get enough that you're still a dominant figure. There's no secret to making a g |
| 22:12.48 | Taintedwisp | And theres the second Petty one |
| 22:13.04 | Taintedwisp | Anytime when someone starts trying to attack the Opposer that means its over lawl |
| 22:13.09 | Taintedwisp | And I came out on top |
| 22:13.12 | Taintedwisp | YEAH |
| 22:13.15 | tordy | Ahli do you use doodads or units as the walls for your random dungeon generation? |
| 22:13.20 | Taintedwisp | nows when I quit, and Anger people |
| 22:15.02 | Taintedwisp | Well then I seem to have won but I dont feel like I have accomplished anything, I hate debating stuff its useless |
| 22:15.13 | Ahli | units |
| 22:15.16 | Taintedwisp | Bah, you can never convince anyone |
| 22:15.25 | tordy | what is your algorithm like? |
| 22:15.36 | tordy | anything online ? |
| 22:15.41 | tordy | you read up or something |
| 22:16.10 | Ahli | create rectangles out of units. units contain a value that determines that they are a wall, stairs, doors, etc... |
| 22:16.21 | Ahli | start with 1 room |
| 22:16.34 | Ahli | get a random wall, try to add a room there |
| 22:16.38 | Ahli | repeat 2k times |
| 22:16.43 | tordy | D: |
| 22:16.53 | tordy | >:] |
| 22:17.33 | Ahli | then I place doodads inside the rooms on spots in front of a wall |
| 22:17.34 | tordy | is it possible to do terrain deformations and cliffs? |
| 22:17.49 | Ahli | not as good as you would wish it would be |
| 22:18.33 | Ahli | in most cases that will look terrible. Terrain deformations don't work nicely in small areas |
| 22:19.03 | tordy | what about cliffs? |
| 22:19.12 | tordy | how about water? |
| 22:19.13 | Ahli | I would like to be able to use them for my caves, but they appear to random in my current map's scale and I need to decrease the size of everything in my map anyway someday. |
| 22:19.16 | tordy | like random streams of water |
| 22:19.43 | Ahli | water is a huge square that you add. you can change the state of all water that uses that specific water |
| 22:19.52 | Ahli | cliffs can't be altered atm |
| 22:20.24 | Taintedwisp | I wish water was malleable where I Could bend it and change it. |
| 22:20.55 | Ahli | I wish water wouldn't have those huge squares... I will run into problems with that damned water in future, I foresee :S |
| 22:21.48 | Ahli | but I think I can fix it with changing heights in each area... |
| 22:22.50 | tordy | here's my case: i only use terrain generation in dungeons |
| 22:23.09 | tordy | wait a minute |
| 22:23.10 | tordy | hold up |
| 22:27.22 | tordy | there's a mouse unit hover over event right? |
| 22:34.19 | Ahli | highlight, yes. The unit needs to have highlighting enabled in its flags |
| 22:34.46 | Ahli | or better: cannot be highlighted needs to be unchecked |
| 22:35.35 | tordy | ok, your gonna need to remind me when i actually implement the damn thing |
| 22:35.37 | tordy | :] |
| 22:38.10 | tordy | Taintedwisp you remind me too |
| 22:38.13 | tordy | thanks |
| 22:38.26 | Taintedwisp | say what? |
| 22:38.29 | Taintedwisp | I wasnt careing |
| 22:38.30 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:39.12 | tordy | well start caring! |
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| 22:45.57 | Taintedwisp | Vailreth, do you know what the Sluggalisk is called in game, the Fatty in desert strike? what its called in the editor? |
| 22:46.19 | MasterReY | hello guys :D |
| 22:46.21 | Ahli | model might be named fatty |
| 22:46.27 | Taintedwisp | wait.. is that a Left 2 die thing? |
| 22:46.30 | MasterReY | it is named Fatty |
| 22:46.32 | MasterReY | ya |
| 22:46.34 | Taintedwisp | Dammit |
| 22:46.41 | Taintedwisp | Nvm i dont wnana add any more dependencies |
| 22:46.42 | MasterReY | it has no death animations etc tho |
| 22:47.46 | MasterReY | guys |
| 22:48.10 | Taintedwisp | Anyone know of any good models that could be used for heroes? |
| 22:48.16 | MasterReY | when people with a non-english sc2 play my map they get "param/value/etc" everywhere |
| 22:48.23 | MasterReY | you know how to fix that? |
| 22:48.23 | Taintedwisp | Localization |
| 22:48.26 | MasterReY | i used localizer before |
| 22:48.33 | Taintedwisp | Localizer sucks |
| 22:48.38 | MasterReY | but i thought i stopped working after 1.5 |
| 22:48.41 | MasterReY | kk |
| 22:48.44 | Taintedwisp | Do it manually it takes only a few minutes |
| 22:48.51 | MasterReY | can you tell me how to do it without extra tool |
| 22:48.52 | MasterReY | ? |
| 22:48.56 | MasterReY | ya i want to |
| 22:48.58 | MasterReY | :) |
| 22:49.18 | Hobrow | why is it soooo hot :/ |
| 22:49.24 | Taintedwisp | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/general-chat/30837-how-do-i-localize-map/ |
| 22:49.26 | Taintedwisp | 2nd post |
| 22:49.28 | MasterReY | hobrow where are you living? |
| 22:49.33 | Hobrow | germany |
| 22:49.37 | MasterReY | germany here, hottewst day of the year |
| 22:49.38 | MasterReY | lol ya^^ |
| 22:49.52 | MasterReY | thanks alot Taintedwisp |
| 22:49.52 | Hobrow | its 1am and i still have 28.5°C in my room |
| 22:50.13 | MasterReY | hobrow i knooooow, my room is upstrais so its really hot aswell |
| 22:50.40 | MasterReY | lol tainted you made a thread yourself about it? :D |
| 22:50.48 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:52.50 | MasterReY | erm one more question |
| 22:53.21 | MasterReY | i just need to change it to one language? |
| 22:53.51 | MasterReY | so language folder to --> enGB and then its done for every language? |
| 22:54.19 | MasterReY | also do i have to do it everytime i add/modify texts in my map or just once? |
| 22:54.59 | Taintedwisp | Oh your not using multiple languages? |
| 22:55.12 | MasterReY | nono |
| 22:55.22 | Taintedwisp | In Patch 1.5 Blizzard actually made it so you can choose which language to publish your file in |
| 22:55.26 | MasterReY | i just did it with my english (enGB) client/editor |
| 22:55.35 | Taintedwisp | click Map > Locale |
| 22:55.39 | Taintedwisp | and then go from there |
| 22:55.44 | MasterReY | and i just had a guy playing the map and he told he its bugged (he is frFR) |
| 22:55.48 | Taintedwisp | and when you publish choose which one you want |
| 22:56.04 | MasterReY | i want it to work for EVERY language |
| 22:56.15 | Taintedwisp | hmmm I dont know then |
| 22:56.20 | Taintedwisp | im on NA, so I dont get these problems |
| 22:56.25 | MasterReY | t-t |
| 22:56.26 | Taintedwisp | enNA only |
| 22:56.45 | MasterReY | well for example when i publish it with enGB |
| 22:56.56 | MasterReY | everyone who doesnt have a english client in whole europe is fucked? |
| 22:57.04 | MasterReY | there HAS TO be another way^^ |
| 22:59.33 | Hobrow | wow |
| 22:59.51 | Hobrow | so a guy reviews a map and says he got bored |
| 23:00.07 | Hobrow | because he upgraded one unit to the max out of the 2 he had |
| 23:00.37 | MasterReY | ^^ |
| 23:00.57 | Hobrow | i guess hes only doing right turns when driving a car |
| 23:01.01 | Hobrow | and caling it lame |
| 23:01.05 | Hobrow | calling |
| 23:03.39 | tordy | who's lame |
| 23:03.41 | Hobrow | wtf why the hell is it getting warmer in here?! |
| 23:03.54 | MasterReY | ok so |
| 23:03.56 | MasterReY | i found a way |
| 23:03.59 | Eiviyn | Stupidly hot |
| 23:04.01 | Eiviyn | 20 degrees |
| 23:04.02 | MasterReY | if you wanna know it: |
| 23:04.03 | Eiviyn | wtf is this |
| 23:04.42 | MasterReY | map --> locale... --> modif<y locales... ---> uncheck every language except the one of your own client/editor |
| 23:04.48 | Hobrow | slaps Eiviyn around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:04.59 | MasterReY | eiviyn your german aswell? |
| 23:05.02 | Hobrow | no |
| 23:05.03 | Eiviyn | Oh wait 20 is london |
| 23:05.05 | Ahli | mastery, map->locale->modify locales. If you only got 1 locale there, everything is fine |
| 23:05.10 | Hobrow | hes british |
| 23:05.13 | MasterReY | ya ok :p |
| 23:05.16 | Eiviyn | 14 degrees |
| 23:05.19 | MasterReY | but if you have more ;9 |
| 23:05.21 | Eiviyn | Better get ice |
| 23:05.23 | Ahli | if you have multiple.... then uncheck the ones that you didn't use to build the complete map |
| 23:05.29 | MasterReY | ya |
| 23:05.39 | Ahli | then every localization will use that single, remaining locale |
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| 23:50.25 | Taintedwisp | hA i just made my first hero unit... Cant believe that I ever thought I needed those hero tabs... |
| 23:50.25 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:50.35 | Taintedwisp | I thought the Experience bar required triggers |
| 23:50.37 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:50.39 | Taintedwisp | Wtf... |
| 23:50.57 | Taintedwisp | Its much much easier then I thought at first |
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