IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20120806

19:45.26*** join/#sc2mapster purl (~purl@rikers.org)
19:45.26*** topic/#sc2mapster is http://sc2mapster.com | sc2mapster bnet2 channel | Themed Creature Contest: http://bit.ly/l1EbS5 | Patch 1.3.X Undocumented Changes: http://bit.ly/ejywRQ | We want your broken maps! http://bit.ly/aU9AgC | Join #sc2replayed for SC2Replayed
19:45.26ckSynergylmao
19:45.28Taintedwisplawl
19:46.24TaintedwispI think that only those 2 teams could pull it off, besides blizzard, but blizzard hasnt made a FPS... so I dont know how it would turn out, though all blizz games are epic anyways soo i would get it reguardless
19:48.28ckSynergyyea
19:49.24Taintedwispso ck, have oyu been using the open games list?
19:50.22*** join/#sc2mapster KamiKami (56790df3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.121.13.243)
19:52.34ckSynergyuhhhh havent played much. working on a mod
19:52.39ckSynergybut yes, i noticed the alt+tab thing
19:52.43ckSynergyhappens when the game is loading too
19:54.27Taintedwispdamn
19:55.06TaintedwispI still want a Refresh Lobby button, that the host can hit so that the lobby refreshes on the open games list. this button would need a 4-6 minute cooldown though
19:55.32Taintedwispwould make it so that maps dont drop to the bottom, and would also make it so that maps only drop to bottom if host is afk
19:58.35ckSynergylmao the fuck?
19:58.36ckSynergyhttp://www.wowhead.com/itemset=-499#modelviewer:6+0
19:59.09ckSynergy^ see wanna be gay mage
20:00.02Taintedwisplooks like Chaqita annana
20:00.05Taintedwispbannan*
20:00.08Taintedwisplol
20:00.11Taintedwispbannana*
20:00.16Taintedwispdamn crap keyboard
20:00.20Taintedwispand crummy spelling lakl
20:01.18ckSynergylol yea no joke
20:01.23ckSynergyt11 looks cool
20:02.20TaintedwispHey which maze looks the best for a mazing td type game?
20:02.20Taintedwisphttp://i47.tinypic.com/2icbigp.png/
20:03.30TheSkunk__Top second from right looks most interesting to me, but I don't play mazing TD's to know if it would actually be best from a gameplay perspective
20:04.05ckSynergytop second, but honestly, is this gonna be like gem td
20:04.08TaintedwispI drew these randomly, and dont know from a gameplay standpoint either
20:04.14TaintedwispKinda
20:04.19TaintedwispBut its going to be Texas Hold'em TD
20:04.20Taintedwisplol
20:04.21ckSynergythen I vote all the above
20:04.38ckSynergybecause if you use set pathing, people are gonna figure out the "best way", then your game will fall to the bottom
20:04.49Taintedwispthats true
20:04.55TaintedwispHmm
20:05.46Taintedwispmaybe I can make randomized pathing
20:05.52Taintedwispthis is going to be A LOT of trigger work
20:05.56Taintedwispand very little data work..
20:07.29TaintedwispI need to find me a good triggerer...
20:07.30Taintedwisplol
20:07.38TaintedwispI'm mostly terrain and data
20:11.27Taintedwispis there a way, to make it so that by  trigger it selects what doodads go where on the map?
20:11.41Taintedwispfacing whatever angle and whatever size?
20:13.21TaintedwispOh yeah and I have another bug...
20:13.21Taintedwisplol
20:13.31TaintedwispI cant make the editor my maps default program...
20:13.38Taintedwispor even open it with the Open with command
20:14.18ckSynergycant help you there
20:14.21ckSynergyas for the doodad thing
20:14.24ckSynergy... depends
20:14.42ckSynergya good triggerer...lol
20:14.47ckSynergyhi
20:14.57TheSkunk__Synergy, do you post under a different name on mapster?
20:15.01ckSynergyyou may call me the sc2editor master lol
20:15.02Taintedwisphahahhah, i just found out a really halfassed way
20:15.03TaintedwispLOL
20:15.08ckSynergyTheSkunk_: yes
20:15.28Taintedwisphe post under Carlos Spicyweiner on the forums
20:15.59*** join/#sc2mapster Daara (62a8da84@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.168.218.132)
20:16.07TaintedwispEWWW WoW!!!
20:16.08TaintedwispEWWWWW
20:16.14DaaraEW
20:16.16ckSynergy?
20:16.17Taintedwispi cant get those creepy images out of my head
20:16.18TheSkunk__Well, he is clearly a good mapper but I didn't recognize his name
20:16.28TaintedwispA bunch of pedofiles on WoW...
20:16.37DaaraWhat did I miss?
20:17.03ckSynergylol
20:17.04Taintedwisp[14:46] <Taintedwisp> EWWW, I was playing WoW for the first time in over a year... and I went into a Role Playing server for the first time... I ran to gold shire, and there was nothing but people talking about molesting kids and selling sex slaves... Ewww,,, [14:47] <Taintedwisp> server was moon guard, this was like 2 hours ago...
20:17.06TaintedwispThere
20:17.07Taintedwisplol
20:17.13ckSynergyclearly a good mapper huh?
20:17.16ckSynergyhow do you figure that?
20:17.17Daaralol
20:17.22*** join/#sc2mapster XenoX101 (~XenoX101@ppp118-209-232-104.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net)
20:17.24Taintedwispim the greatest mapper ever... everyone knows that
20:17.25Taintedwisplol
20:17.25Daarathat's how moon guard is
20:17.31Taintedwispi made mini chop farms..
20:17.31Daarathat server is known for that
20:17.32Taintedwisplawl
20:17.41ckSynergyeveryone knows youre chock full of crap tainted lol
20:17.44Taintedwispit should be shut down, and the poeple should get arrest warrents
20:17.44Taintedwisplol
20:17.45Daarafull of pedo nerds
20:18.03Daarai went there to experience it myself once
20:18.05ckSynergypedobears run from pedonerds.
20:18.05Daarait was pretty bad
20:18.22ckSynergyDaara hasnt farted the same since. lol
20:18.26Daarahaha
20:18.30Taintedwispck... you know im the best lawl
20:18.47DaaraI've seen a lot of things in my WoW days.
20:18.54ckSynergyThe best at... ? what exactly?
20:18.59TheSkunk__I just meant you appeared reasonably skilled; so I figured you weren't some random nub and therefore probably hung around on mapster or somewhere else
20:19.01TaintedwispI believe my certified title, is " Da baddest mutha fukka this side of the Mississippi"
20:19.13ckSynergyyea, we already determined this
20:19.19ckSynergythe south side of the mississippi
20:19.22ckSynergyaka antartica
20:19.25TaintedwispBOTH SIDES
20:19.26Taintedwisplol
20:19.34Taintedwispi live on a boad in the middle
20:19.34DaaraThe literate part of mississippi?
20:19.36TaintedwispSO BOTH SIDES
20:19.36Taintedwisplol
20:19.53Taintedwispwhatever side NC is on
20:19.54Taintedwisplawl
20:20.02ckSynergyTheSkunk: I hang out on mapster occasionally. Go by JPNyt
20:20.03DaaraI wasn't aware that people knew how to read or write down there.
20:20.13ckSynergyI resemble that remark
20:20.20Taintedwisplol
20:20.25TaintedwispMost cant
20:20.33ckSynergy-.- *sigh* so true
20:20.51ckSynergyI've seen sea cucumbers with a higher iq than most people down here
20:21.08TaintedwispI have a high IQ, and I paid very close atttention in school, got strait A's and still struggle on some words... what a place to liv e-_-
20:21.11DaaraIt's the same with all the bible belt states.
20:21.21TaintedwispNot really
20:21.28ckSynergyTainted: double digits is not considered a "high iq"
20:21.35TaintedwispIts actually the absence of the bible that is causing out decay in education
20:21.37ckSynergyI know I know, its more than you can count on your fingers.
20:21.43ckSynergystill, not high.
20:21.44ckSynergylol
20:21.48Taintedwispno one can read it anymore, thats why everyone is so screwed up
20:21.49Taintedwisplol
20:22.02Taintedwisplol
20:22.17Taintedwispactually my IQ has been tested several times all resulting i n 140-160 lol
20:22.21Taintedwispsooo not too shabby
20:22.28Taintedwispconsidering the Average is 98..
20:22.29Taintedwisplol
20:22.41ckSynergythats how much they charged you for the test, not your actual results bro
20:22.46Taintedwisplol
20:22.48Daararofl
20:23.40TaintedwispNo the charges were a lot more... trust that yikes, It was through Psychiatrist, and other doctors, that charged the fuck outta my parents, though we had medicaid and it covered it so why not...
20:24.02ckSynergywow.
20:24.16ckSynergyI didnt realize medicaid covered the tests to see just how stupid some people were
20:24.22Taintedwisplol
20:24.25Taintedwispyeah...
20:24.34DaaraYou don't need a test to determine that for most people.
20:24.36TaintedwispIt covers pretty much anything
20:24.37Taintedwisplol
20:24.45TaintedwispI only wanted to do it, to compete with my older brother
20:24.56Taintedwisphes at 140-160 too...
20:24.57Taintedwisplol
20:25.03TaintedwispMilitary did his last one at 158
20:25.17DaaraI already know I'm smarter than my brothers, I'm just lazy and don't apply myself.  
20:25.22Taintedwisplol
20:25.25TaintedwispSame here daara
20:25.32Taintedwispwell my older bro is about the same intelligence as me
20:25.42Taintedwispmy little bro is about 115-130
20:25.50Taintedwispnot bad, and above average but seems slow to me
20:25.54Taintedwisplol
20:26.01ckSynergyI never had an iq test
20:26.05DaaraI've always found it fun when people try to act like they are smarter than me, when they spend 100's of hours studying for exams etc.
20:26.08Taintedwispyes you have ck
20:26.14ckSynergyoh?
20:26.19TaintedwispThey actually secretly give everyone one in Kindergarten
20:26.19Taintedwisplol
20:26.21ckSynergyonline ones dont count
20:26.24DaaraI've never studied once in my life.  Still get B's!
20:26.28ckSynergyha
20:26.34Taintedwispi dont study and get strait A's
20:26.35ckSynergylmao oh that reminds me
20:26.37ckSynergyget this
20:26.46Taintedwispand all I did at school, was play halo lan party lawl
20:26.49ckSynergyI remember in 1st grade I got sent to the principals office
20:26.49DaaraA's would mean I would have to paly attention in class.
20:26.51TaintedwispHALO TRAIL BITCHE
20:27.07ckSynergywhy? because they wanted me to put blocks in there correct holes (circle, square, etc)
20:27.11TaintedwispI can pay attention, I just refuse to study or do homework
20:27.18Taintedwisplawl
20:27.20ckSynergyand I already did it in the first 5 seconds and refused to do it again
20:27.29TaintedwispCK, you sure your Iq wasnt int he double digits?
20:27.29Daaralol
20:27.40ckSynergymy school must have been
20:27.44Taintedwisplol
20:27.56ckSynergyI passed 2nd grade with all As and never took a test
20:27.58TaintedwispYeah, I was called moron in class and such because I would just sleep all day..
20:28.02Taintedwispthen EOC's came..
20:28.07Taintedwispand i would get like a 98% lol
20:28.10Taintedwispno studying
20:28.11ckSynergywhy? because they had a contest. every 5 books you read got you an automatic A on the next test
20:28.12DaaraSounds like me.
20:28.22DaaraPeople thought I was dumb until I scored a 31 on my ACT.
20:28.24Taintedwispand little miss im so perfect would work hard and study and would get a 86%
20:28.24Taintedwisplol
20:28.32ckSynergyneedless to say, in 5th grade when a nearby school burned down, I donated an entire section to their library lol
20:28.37TaintedwispNever did an ACT
20:28.48Taintedwispdid the PSATs, and I scored 2nd in the state
20:28.50Daarabasically the same as an SAT
20:28.52Taintedwispbut never did pay for the actual SAT
20:29.03Daarajust different scoring system
20:29.16Daara32 is the highest you can get on an ACT
20:29.18TaintedwispTest are easy, and I always got 100% scores on EOGs lol
20:29.27TaintedwispI was looking at the test in 4th grade, and I realized...
20:29.34TaintedwispThere is a mathmatical sequence to the answers...
20:29.35Taintedwisplawl
20:29.36ckSynergyThe closest I have to being scored on my iq was my military exam
20:29.46Taintedwisp10 minutes and I was done
20:29.49Taintedwispand I got a 100%
20:29.53Taintedwispand was accused of cheating
20:29.54Taintedwisplol
20:29.56ckSynergylol
20:30.12ckSynergyhell I did "cheat" in 7th+
20:30.29ckSynergyHeck, just because im smart enough to program my calculator to find the answer for me, and youre not, does not making it cheating
20:30.30DaaraI nearly failed my chemistry class my junior year.
20:30.30TaintedwispThe correct answer is the one that has part of the other 3 answers in it every time
20:30.31Taintedwisplol
20:30.37DaaraScored perfect on it on the ACT.
20:30.39Taintedwispbut theres a sequence to them too
20:31.04TaintedwispWell in highschool I faileD TONS of classes
20:31.08Taintedwisplol
20:31.17TaintedwispI did graduate... but I failed like 18 classes
20:31.19Taintedwisplol
20:31.26Daarasounds like one of my friends
20:31.34TaintedwispI had an A average, Aced my EOC's
20:31.39Taintedwispbut missed 158 days...
20:31.40Taintedwisplol
20:32.10TaintedwispThough I will admit, Honors Calculus, was a bit hard when we got to harmonic motion
20:32.15TaintedwispI did struggle a little
20:32.15Daaraone of my friends was under the threat of expulsion because he missed so many days
20:32.19Taintedwispbut came off witha  B+
20:32.20Daarabut was a strait A student
20:32.39Daarafuck math
20:32.46Daarai'm glad i use that shit on a daily basis...
20:33.00Daaraoh wait, i don't even use fucking multiplication most days
20:34.29Daaraglad i need 4 math classes for my game design degree
20:34.49ckSynergylol
20:35.00ckSynergyyea, the school system is bunk
20:35.41ckSynergyFigure out the matrix to the numbers 0,9,8,7,6;,2,6,43,7,8;2,3,4,56,8 and divide by 2 squaring by 9 and then find me the square root of pi. what is x?
20:35.50DaaraNO
20:37.01Taintedwisplol
20:37.16TaintedwispGame design degree?
20:37.23Taintedwispyeah you will need math for that
20:37.29Taintedwispadvanced math lol
20:37.30Taintedwisplawl
20:38.04TaintedwispBut if you can learn it without the college it is possible to get a job without the degree, thats what Epic games was saying a few months back
20:38.16Taintedwispbut its hard to learn without an actual teacher
20:38.47TaintedwispLOL i was Expelled one day...
20:38.53Taintedwispfor like 2 weeks
20:38.57Taintedwisphad to go sign back up for school
20:39.05Taintedwispthats because I only showed up 4 days the entire semester
20:39.06Taintedwisplol
20:41.00TaintedwispWhy so quiet?
20:41.00Taintedwisplol
20:41.23*** join/#sc2mapster Taintedwisp (626553eb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.101.83.235)
20:41.42TaintedwispBAH it loves to do that, where it breaks my connection without giving me any real message
20:44.07ckSynergygot bored
20:44.14ckSynergyso why are blizzard guys here?
20:44.25TheSkunk__Why not? Same reason they're on the forums
20:44.40ckSynergyuhhhhh
20:44.44DaaraOh, I didn't even notice they were here today.
20:44.47ckSynergyto laugh at people having problems?
20:44.49DaaraThey've been quiet.
20:44.54TheSkunk__You should be greatful, Blizzard people have been disallowed by their mangers from going into other IRC channels =/
20:45.17ckSynergylol grateful for what exactly?
20:45.28MexaDaara, perhaps a topic related to mapping would wake them up.
20:45.34Taintedwispeh, im glad they are hear, least they do talk occasionally
20:45.34Taintedwisplol
20:45.38Taintedwisphere*
20:45.44DaaraI don't know, that seems a little out of the norm here.
20:45.47ckSynergydo they ever add anything useful?
20:45.50Taintedwispyeah
20:45.51TheSkunk__yes
20:45.52Daarayes
20:46.02ckSynergycoolio
20:46.10TaintedwispI understand they are at work, so like many here they are afk for the most part
20:46.21ckSynergy^
20:46.33TheSkunk__either way, they get to  observe us, so maybe they can see your complaints more directly
20:46.35Taintedwispunlike myself who has nothing to do, they actually have things to do lol
20:46.45DaaraI have things to do.
20:46.47ckSynergyso what kind of things do they discuss?
20:46.47TaintedwispI still want that Refresh lobby button :D
20:46.48Taintedwisplol
20:46.51DaaraI have a girlfriend to attend to occasionally.
20:47.07DaaraI have to take her out and feed her a couple times a week.
20:47.10Taintedwispporn mostly, Blizz devs are really weird people lawl
20:47.11Taintedwispjk
20:47.15ckSynergylol
20:47.20Taintedwispthey were helping people with mapping a couple days ago
20:47.30ckSynergy...
20:47.33Daarayep
20:47.38ckSynergythats...why...we...come here?
20:47.42Taintedwispyup
20:47.47Daaradeletarius even commented on how awsome my map looks
20:47.52ckSynergyerm, I mean, we come here to help
20:47.56Taintedwispand If someone wants to help others, or needs help, then they are always welcome
20:47.58Taintedwispno matter what
20:48.03ckSynergyJob requires them to say that. lol
20:48.06ckSynergyjk
20:48.09Daarahaha
20:48.10TaintedwispI come here for someone to talk to while im mapping
20:48.11Taintedwisplol
20:48.16Daarasame
20:48.20Daaraoccasionally with questions
20:48.25Taintedwispyeah
20:48.28Taintedwispspeaking of which
20:48.32TaintedwispWheres vailreth at?
20:48.37Daaradunno
20:48.38Taintedwisphaven't seen him all day
20:48.49ckSynergyHeres the help I want: Fix vital fractions, fix attribute damage fraction modifiers, fix ctrl+alt+f11 refresh ui, fix alt+tab = no load
20:48.55Mexa~seen vailreth
20:49.06purlvailreth <~kvirc@75.108.220.50> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 1d 3h 3m 59s ago, saying: 'no clue.'.
20:49.06Daara~dance
20:49.06purl<(*.*<) <(*.*)> \(*.*)/ (>*.*)>
20:49.21Taintedwisp~runaway
20:49.22Taintedwispaww
20:49.24Taintedwisplol
20:49.28Daara~seen jademussreg
20:49.29purljademussreg <Owenalacas@c-71-203-205-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 64d 21h 29m 18s ago, saying: '.05 is 5%. ???'.
20:49.38Taintedwispyeah jademus quit mapping
20:49.38Taintedwisplol
20:49.44Daarasad times these are
20:49.50Taintedwisphe gave away his photon cycles
20:49.54Mexa~seen rodrigo
20:49.55purlrodrigo <80bda9cc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.189.169.204> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3d 14h 33m 54s ago, saying: 'FUCKING HACKERS! ARGHH'.
20:49.56ckSynergywow
20:49.56TaintedwispI actually have the map in my downloads folder stil
20:49.57Taintedwisplol
20:50.01ckSynergyhas it really been 2 months since hes been on?
20:50.02Daaralol rodrigo
20:50.06Taintedwisplol
20:50.13Taintedwisp~seen 1shadowwolf
20:50.14purlTaintedwisp: i haven't seen '1shadowwolf'
20:50.16ckSynergytime flies when youre mapping i guess
20:50.16Taintedwisplol
20:50.16MexaDidn't expect him to even be here this recent
20:50.21Taintedwisp~seen Ishadowwolf
20:50.22purlishadowwolf <471c40c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.28.64.194> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 113d 48m 46s ago, saying: 'Still kinda weird.'.
20:50.26Mexa~seen alpha_vst
20:50.26purlalpha_vst <~Joeffect@c-67-188-153-243.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 127d 19h 44m ago, saying: 'for now at least maybe'.
20:50.27Taintedwisplol
20:50.37Ishadowwolflol
20:50.45MexaYou silly
20:50.48Taintedwisp\lawl
20:51.07Taintedwisp~seen dabaddestmuthafukkathissideofthemississipi
20:51.08purli haven't seen 'dabaddestmuthafukkathissideofthemississipi', Taintedwisp
20:51.09MexaHe should have registred the account:p
20:51.11Taintedwispdamn
20:51.14Taintedwisphe aint seen me
20:51.36Taintedwisphow do yuo register an account?
20:51.40TaintedwispI just type it in each time
20:51.41Taintedwisplol
20:52.25MexaI forgot how it is done
20:52.58Mexahttp://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
20:53.31TaintedwispAHhh there we go.. I found vailreth
20:53.38Taintedwisphes on the Battle.net forums
20:53.38Taintedwisplol
20:53.44Taintedwispi told him to get on mapster
20:53.44Taintedwisplawl
20:54.00TaintedwispVailreth Just a quick Question about the Cutscene Editor, i was attempting to animate a spinecrawler attacking a marine but the tentacle remains in place. i was wondering if Independent Bone Manipulation in the cutscene editor would be possible? #151 30 minutes ago   IShadowWolf Hey vailreth.,... GET ON MAPSTER LAWL!!!
20:54.06*** join/#sc2mapster Swordman (5d801012@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.128.16.18)
20:54.20TaintedwispHey Swordman, Welcome to the IRC
20:54.23Taintedwispnever seen you here
20:54.57TaintedwispYEAH just 45 more minutes
20:55.03Taintedwispthen im duceing it outta here
20:55.04Taintedwisplol
20:55.05Swordmanhi, i'm a german mapper, and somebody told me about this IRC-Channel
20:55.07MexaThen what?
20:55.18Mexahi thee
20:55.22Mexa*there
20:55.22TaintedwispWelcome, if you need any help feel free to ask, mostly in english though
20:55.29Taintedwisp:D:
20:55.51Taintedwispim hungry... when i get home imma cook me a bratwurst
20:55.58Taintedwispand some grits
20:55.59Taintedwisplol
20:56.09Swordmanof course in english ;) . i'm offline in 5 minutes. just wanted to test the connection to the channel
20:56.21Swordmanits amost night in germany
20:56.24Swordman*almost
20:56.25Taintedwispkk, Welcome feel free to drop by anytime for any questions
20:56.53Swordmanare the "blizz" guys from blizzard?
20:56.57Taintedwispyup
20:57.08Swordmancool, there are no blizz guys at german channels :D
20:57.21Taintedwispits cause we are special lawl
20:57.35Swordmanof course you are......
20:57.40Taintedwisplol
20:57.43Blizz-DeletariusSwords
20:57.45Blizz-Deletariusyes we are
20:57.56Blizz-Deletarius(from blizzard that is)
20:57.59Taintedwispconsidering im wearing a tape beard, i probably am special in both ways
20:58.50Swordmangood to know that. maybe you can talk with the german translators, and tell them, that they dont do good work.
20:59.09Blizz-Deletariusin-game, in-editor, or what?
20:59.13Swordmanboth
20:59.14Swordman:D
20:59.27Swordmanin-game is okay, but editor is just uhm... not good
20:59.28Blizz-Deletariusis there anything specifically that could be improved upon?
20:59.44Swordmanhave to go off now, but i will talk to you tomorrow
20:59.58Swordmanbye
21:00.11TaintedwispBye
21:00.14TaintedwispCya around
21:01.36Taintedwispalright guys ill brb in 10 minutes\
21:01.43Taintedwispits raining and i need to go sweep out a couple trucks
21:01.56Mexaseeya
21:03.09Blizz-ArtestruTainted: Regarding your question about bone manipulation in the Cutscene Editor, that is not currently possible.
21:04.38DaaraStructure wireframes take significantly less time to make.
21:04.59DaaraDon't need to outline so many details.
21:06.15ckSynergythey live!
21:07.08ckSynergylemme guess, I just missed them
21:08.03ckSynergyI'm wondering, what is ya'lls job title at blizzard?
21:10.07Blizz-ArtestruI'm a programmer on the editor.
21:10.46ckSynergymeaning? You program the editor and how it functions, or you do map/mod work?
21:11.50Blizz-ArtestruI program the editor and how it functions.
21:11.56ckSynergysweet
21:11.59Blizz-Artestru:)
21:12.04ckSynergydoes ctrl+alt+f11 work yet?
21:12.12ckSynergy(reload ui)
21:13.03Blizz-ArtestruEditor UI or Game UI?
21:13.18ckSynergyIm not too sure the patch notes werent very specific
21:13.26ckSynergylemme grab a link and info
21:13.59ckSynergyhttp://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/6830760/Patch_150_Now_Live-7_27_2012
21:14.08ckSynergyPressing Control + Alt + F11 now allows mod makers to reload the UI. This allows changes made to layout files to be reflected immediately without having to quit and restart the game.
21:14.18ckSynergyits listed under "Editor"
21:14.50ckSynergyI tried from the editor and it didnt do anything, and it doesnt register in game either (just opens the messages window)
21:16.37ckSynergyNot sure if its an editor or game thing
21:17.12Blizz-DeletariusLet me look into that for you
21:17.31ckSynergyThanks. I have a few more questions after that if yall have time.
21:18.11Blizz-ArtestruWhenever we're logged in, feel free to ask questions and we'll get back to them next time we have a free minute.  Also, we might sometimes ask you to repeat the question on the forum so everyone can see the answer. :)
21:18.44ckSynergyI have no problems with that :)
21:18.52Blizz-Deletariusagreed, if we just answer it here without it being posted on the forums, only a small handful of people get to benefit from the question and answer, so we'd like to share the knowledge with as many people as possible
21:19.14Blizz-Deletariusanyway, Ctrl + Alt + F11 is for the game, not the editor
21:19.39ckSynergyOk, so its broken in game?
21:19.47ckSynergyood to know. lol
21:19.49ckSynergy*good
21:20.03Blizz-ArtestruIs it broken?
21:20.12ckSynergyI havent been able to get it to work
21:20.26Blizz-ArtestruI don't work on that system, so I'll bring it up with the right person and let you know if it's a known issue or not.
21:20.37Taintedwispback
21:20.44ckSynergyFor me it just opens up the messages window
21:20.57ckSynergy(like its not registering the ctrl or the alt
21:21.14Blizz-ArtestruYou use that hotkey in the game, not in the editor.
21:21.20Blizz-Artestruafter you've made a change to a layout file
21:21.34Blizz-Artestru(I think)
21:21.53ckSynergySo, who do we talk to, to get more descriptions on editor fields? Ex. Behavor -> Stats: Duration Vital Bonuses+
21:22.08ckSynergyArte: Tried that, no go
21:22.24Blizz-ArtestruOkay, I'll have someone take a look.
21:22.34ckSynergyThanks Artestru
21:22.57Taintedwispnow that I am soaked in rain... my overshirt is soaked.... and my hands are slap full of Grease... i can get back to the editor for a few minutes... 1 uhaul truck to now close its back part, and BOOM, it starts pouring rain... and lightning, but I have to sit out there in it as I fight with that door for 10 minutes...
21:23.35Blizz-Deletariusck, we're aware of some of those descriptions being missing, and we're working on adding them as we go along, sorry buddy
21:24.08ckSynergyNo problem :) I know it takes time
21:24.33Taintedwispoh yeah, one thing Deletearius, and Artestru, thanks for the Editor tutorials listed on the forum, they are great and really helped me when I was starting out
21:24.51Blizz-ArtestruGlad they helped!
21:24.57Blizz-ArtestruWe want to do a lot more of that in the future.
21:25.08Taintedwisplook foward to seeing them
21:25.09MexaDo you only help out with editor and game issues?
21:25.10ckSynergyThere are editor tutorials? Crap. and I had to learn everything the hard way lol
21:25.18Taintedwisplol
21:25.48ckSynergyAlthough at this point I could write a book probably lol
21:25.59Taintedwisphttp://us.battle.net/sc2/en/game/
21:25.59Blizz-Deletariusgame issues aren't reallllllly us, but if it's a big enough issue, and you've posted about it in the bug report forum, we still may be able to direct the problem
21:26.02Taintedwisphttp://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/tutorials/
21:26.04Taintedwisp:D
21:26.12Blizz-Deletariusbut mostly we're editor
21:26.19MexaWell, what about the battle.net webpage issues?
21:26.23ckSynergyI have one request for the editor that would be nice
21:26.52Blizz-Deletariusheh, mexa, that's not really us either - submit a bug report to the forums and they'll be much more equipped to handle your task appropriately
21:26.57ckSynergyFile->preferances->test document: Add the option to load game windowed (fullscreen)
21:26.57ckSynergy:)
21:26.59Blizz-Deletariuswhat's that CK
21:27.05Blizz-Deletariussec
21:27.13MexaI suppose that's what I'll do then.Thanks anyway.
21:28.07Blizz-Deletariusck, that's a cool idea - do me a favor and post it up on the forums as well?
21:28.15ckSynergysure. which board you want it under
21:28.22Blizz-Deletariuscustom maps/mods
21:28.24TaintedwispI have a request as well, but it might be seen as a ridiculous one, lol. an uploaded dependency with all the WoW, building and Unit models. I think though in the future, if blizzard has the want to do so they could link all the games so the games could have cross play assets
21:28.43DaaraIf Blizzard pays me, I will do it myself.
21:28.58Taintedwisplol
21:29.00Blizz-DeletariusTainted, unfortunately that's not in my control really
21:29.09Taintedwispyeah I know, just would be cool lawl
21:29.12DaaraI'll even make wireframes and icons.
21:29.38DaaraI'll have it done in a few months time!
21:30.11Taintedwispha, awesome Daara
21:30.18DaaraActually
21:30.24ckSynergyBlizz-Deletarius: which forum did you want that request under?
21:30.29Daarathey could pay me in the form of the missing WC3 models.
21:30.31ckSynergyIm not sure which one pertains to you
21:30.44TaintedwispI am slowly working on a Warcraft 2 Mod. I love that game. Warcraft 2 was the best for me
21:30.45Taintedwisp:D
21:30.46Blizz-Deletariusoh, sorry
21:30.59Blizz-Deletariushttp://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/13437/
21:31.18Taintedwisphence why Mini Chop Farms, has music from Warcraft 2 instead of SC2 lol
21:31.30ckSynergyok, ill get that done asap
21:32.40Taintedwisplol daara what models are you missing?
21:32.53DaaraSpecifically atm
21:32.56Daaraa peon model
21:33.00ckSynergyHeres a question, how does the editor relate to the actual game? For example: Effect [Type: Apply Behavior], has a field "Duration" and a flag "Use duration". When checked, it doesnt use the duration specified. Is this a game issue or a editor issue?
21:33.09Taintedwispdo you not have Wc3 installed?
21:33.17Daaraoh, i'm using WoW models
21:33.26Taintedwispohhh
21:33.30TaintedwispThere is a Peon model in WoW
21:33.30Daarawc3 models in sc2 looks aweful
21:33.43Daaranope, just regular units
21:33.43TaintedwispIn the orc starting area there are peons with pickaxes
21:33.51Daarathe have work animations, but they don't actually caryy lumber/gold
21:34.04Taintedwispyou can make them carry stuff via triggers
21:34.07Taintedwispi mean data
21:34.07Taintedwisplol
21:34.09Daarathe peasant has 3 models, one with lumber and one with gold
21:34.20Daarayea, but they don't have the animations
21:34.29Taintedwispyeah I can see that
21:34.56TaintedwispAlright everyone, Im about to head out here in 10 minutes so if theres anything you need from me tell me now :D
21:35.07Daaraporkchop sandwiches
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21:35.47TaintedwispNOOO HES 3D
21:35.47KuekenckSynergy: that field is new, right?
21:35.53Kuekennever noticed it
21:35.53Swordman3DShere i am again :D
21:35.55TaintedwispHey i had a porkchop samitch for lunch
21:36.17Taintedwispck... I command you to Support it
21:36.18Taintedwisphttp://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/6248185666#1
21:36.19Taintedwisplol
21:36.43DaaraI took my girl out to an authentic BR restaurant last night, huehuehuehue
21:36.48Swordman3DStried to connect with my 3DS... it works!
21:37.16TaintedwispI took my girl out to the authentic wendys thursday lawl
21:37.18ckSynergyKueken: yes
21:37.25ckSynergyThere are a number of new fields
21:37.25Daarasigh...wendy's
21:37.31Kuekenand it has no effect? a shame
21:37.33Daarathey got rid of the sweet and spicy asian chicken...
21:37.37Taintedwisplol
21:37.38Daarafor shame wendy's
21:37.39Daarafor shame
21:37.54Swordman3DSoh, hi küken^^
21:38.02Kuekendid you try different behaviors? like infinite duration vs set duration?
21:38.08TaintedwispWell we went to the zoo.... and then we got hungry ont he way home, but neither of us wanted to go inside...
21:38.08Taintedwisplol
21:38.11Kuekenhey Swordman3DS
21:38.32Kuekenhm
21:39.00Kuekenshould hav just said Swordman, the other way sounds like I never heard the name xD
21:39.01Swordman3DSi think i know you küken
21:39.01Taintedwisplol
21:39.23TaintedwispGreat, im ice cold
21:39.30Taintedwispand about to have to go hom in 5 minutes
21:39.33Taintedwispand its pouring rain
21:39.44Taintedwispprobably around 2 inches int he past 30-40 minutes...
21:39.53Taintedwispand my car has VERY slick tires
21:40.06Daarai wish it would rain here
21:40.14Taintedwisplol
21:40.14Taintedwispwhy?
21:40.15Swordman3DSwusste nicht ob du es bist. (i will not translate that)
21:40.16Daarafreaking drought
21:40.19TaintedwispI want SNOW
21:40.23TaintedwispSNOW DAMMIT SNOW!!!
21:40.31Taintedwispi know its august... but I still want snow
21:40.38Swordman3DSsnow in summer?
21:40.40Taintedwispand like 4 ft of it
21:40.41Taintedwisplol
21:40.43Taintedwispin NC
21:40.43Taintedwisplol
21:40.46TaintedwispI wish
21:40.52Taintedwispwe had it once in september for 2 inches
21:40.52Taintedwisplol
21:41.23Swordman3DSamerica has crazy weather sometimes...
21:41.51TaintedwispActually NC has Beatiful perfect weather for most people
21:41.57TaintedwispI am just weird and love the cold
21:42.04TaintedwispI want to live in alaska
21:42.07Taintedwisplol
21:42.10Kuekenmove to the south pole then :)
21:42.15Kuekennah, not alaska
21:42.21TaintedwispThe average year round is 50-80 in NC
21:42.26Kuekentoo warm out there in a few years :)
21:42.30Taintedwisplol
21:42.37Taintedwispyour right... RUSSIA IT IS
21:42.42Taintedwispthey have some hot ass women
21:42.43Taintedwisplol
21:42.52Kuekenthought you like it cold?
21:42.53Swordman3DSNC means north carolina, right?
21:42.53Taintedwispwith sexy acents
21:42.58TaintedwispYup
21:43.12TaintedwispNc is north Carolina
21:43.16TaintedwispHome of teh dumbass...
21:43.17Taintedwisplol
21:43.37Swordman3DSwhat time is it right now in NC?
21:43.42Taintedwisp5:43
21:43.47Taintedwisp5:44
21:43.49Taintedwisplol
21:44.02Kuekeni love the channel topic xD
21:44.08Swordman3DS11:44 in germany
21:44.11Kueken"patch 1.3x undocumented changes"
21:44.16TaintedwispWhat big tittied russians? it is a great topic
21:44.30Taintedwisplol nooo thats not old lol
21:44.39Taintedwispand dont forget... Themed creature contest
21:44.40Taintedwisplol
21:44.52Kuekenuh, yeah, need to work on my creature...
21:45.00Kuekenoh wait
21:45.01Taintedwisplawl
21:45.20Kuekenit probably won't work anymore :/
21:45.26Kuekencouple of patches in between ;)
21:45.27TaintedwispHey Kueken I dont understand SoTIS, those guys dont know how to make a Dota map in SC2...
21:45.39Kuekenhappens
21:45.40TaintedwispThey could have made heroes similar to the themed creature contest and it would have been epic
21:46.10Kuekenoh well, the entries were a ton of work
21:46.11TaintedwispImagine if that cube was really a hero in dota?
21:46.21TaintedwispOh yeah, but Sotis was supposed to be a lot of work
21:46.24Taintedwisplol
21:46.44Swordman3DSif dota 2 will have an editor, i will make a starcraft 2 map :D
21:46.45Taintedwispthey still havent addressed the problem that everyone has stated
21:46.51Taintedwispthat the game feels awkward
21:46.55Daarayea...
21:47.05Daarai don't like it
21:47.10Daarait doesn't feel like a dota
21:47.12Kuekenyes, but come on, which sane person creates 500+ actors for a single unit, not even counting any spells?
21:47.20TaintedwispI have high hopes for Blizzard All stars. it does looks pretty cool
21:47.30Taintedwisp:D uhhh this guy
21:47.31Taintedwisplol
21:47.35Kuekenemphasis on the "sane" part, so don't count me :D
21:47.59Taintedwispand that was just me placing 500 of the same unit holding shift int he editor on the same spot to make the moddle spin lol
21:48.03Taintedwisphah
21:48.17Taintedwisptoo bad it lags or I would do it A LOT
21:48.18Taintedwisplol
21:48.21Kuekennow you got your rotation site operation :D
21:48.30TaintedwispNo]
21:48.32Swordman3DSi hope, blizzard will fix the german translations soon
21:48.36TaintedwispI still like doing it the laggy way
21:48.37Taintedwisp:D
21:48.42Kueken:)
21:48.42TaintedwispLooks funny
21:49.00Kuekenspace bar still called outer-space bar?
21:49.06Taintedwisplol
21:49.10Swordman3DSyep
21:49.13Daaralol
21:49.23TaintedwispYou notice that the "Next Button: is called Text?
21:49.26Taintedwispwtg?
21:49.27Taintedwispwth?
21:49.28Taintedwispol
21:49.33Taintedwispin the open games list
21:49.50Kuekenwell, the ingame translations are pretty okay, for the most part
21:49.58Kuekenthe editor translations are ridiculous
21:50.12TaintedwispI heard the French in game translations are terrible
21:50.22Taintedwispand for some reason they translated the Units names?
21:50.27Kuekenthe germans are quite good, I think
21:50.30Blizz-ArtestruThe "Text" button is a bug. :)
21:50.38Kuekenthey always do
21:50.40Taintedwisp:D lol ok
21:50.46Kuekenlike in SC1
21:51.04Swordman3DSand "left" still called "left" oh, how can i explain that fail? it sounds the same in english
21:51.05Kuekenvulture in german is "Adler", which means eagle :D
21:51.10TaintedwispWhy should you translate the word Hydralisk? does it not still hold its meaning in German as a Noun?
21:51.12Taintedwisplol
21:51.22Kuekenhydra is not translated
21:51.32Kuekenbut for example firebat is
21:51.38Kuekenor siege tank
21:51.42Kuekenstuff like that
21:51.43TaintedwispThese are names, my name in mexican, is Jamie, my name in america is jamie, andmy name in japan is jamie lol
21:51.54DaaraMatteo
21:51.55Daara:D
21:52.02DaaraMattimus
21:52.03Taintedwispand anyone who tells me different can suck it
21:52.04Taintedwisplol
21:52.05Kuekenwell, raynor is not translated
21:52.10Taintedwispthough my real name is Carlos
21:52.12TaintedwispSpicy
21:52.14Taintedwispweiner
21:52.15Taintedwisplol
21:52.30Taintedwispkk im out
21:52.36Taintedwispgoing to try to drive in this shit weather
21:52.47Kuekenthe german voice actors are pretty nice, though
21:52.57TaintedwispWell good luck everyone
21:52.59KuekenI like them more than their english counterparts
21:53.04Kuekenand thats rare
21:53.05Kuekenbye
21:53.09Daaral8r
21:53.10Taintedwispand Thanks BLizzard devs for helping people, most companies wouldnt do that
21:53.10Daaradon't die
21:53.39Kuekenthey did help?
21:53.42Kuekenlink?
21:53.43Swordman3DSgood thing, they didn't translated "Starcraft"
21:54.00KuekenI wonder how they'd translate that xD
21:54.16Kuekenisn't a "craft" just a vehicle?
21:54.33Swordman3DSSternkunst :D
21:54.53Kuekenthat would be StarArt, wouldn't it?
21:55.03Kuekenwell, I probably have those wrong :)
21:55.37Swordman3DScraft means Kunst... warcraft means Kriegskunst i guess
21:55.50Kuekenok
21:55.57Kuekenthanks :-*
21:56.22Swordman3DSim not sure about the translation of "craft"
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21:57.52Fenix_hey guys, how do I do to make the ability attack unallow to attack friends unit manually?
21:58.13Fenix_i want to prevent player to do the ability and select his own unit and kill them
22:00.18Fenix_oh well nvm
22:00.23Fenix_founded how lol
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22:47.41ckSynergyBlizz-Artestru: Issue: In the editor, data module, in the units tabs: When switching between units, the editor lags and flashes, like its trying to reload all unit statistics. This didn't occur post 1.5 as far as I can remember.
22:50.11Blizz-ArtestruThanks, I'll report a bug.
22:50.49ckSynergysure thing.
22:52.14Daarahappens quite often now, especially in the units tab
22:52.59ckSynergyyea no joke. Makes editing units a pain in the a$$
22:53.16Daaratakes my heroes like 10 seconds to load up sometimes
22:54.09Daaracould just be that i need to upgrade to a new computer though lol
22:55.23ckSynergylol I doubt that
22:55.28ckSynergyIt didnt seem to do this before
22:56.19Daaraone thing i would really like
22:56.29Daarawould be to be able to import/export spells from WoW
22:57.05ckSynergywhy not just recreate them?
22:57.19Daaratakes a lot of time and don't look as good imo
22:57.29ckSynergyah yea
22:57.31ckSynergy*shrugs*
22:57.52ckSynergyThats rather minor compared to other things though
22:57.57ckSynergy*other things the editor needs
22:58.15Daarabrb resetting router
22:58.23ckSynergyLike the option to define custom Object Families (without having to go through xml/raw data
22:58.25ckSynergy)
22:59.34ckSynergyor, even if we had to do that to add an object family, would be nice for the editor to pick it up and allow us to select it as an option for future units
23:01.02ckSynergyI mean, come on. Campaign, Melee, or StoryMode? What if its none of the above?
23:01.44ckSynergySame for Object Type. "Other" can be too braod, and I may want to be more specific, like "Super ultimate projectile" or "boss critter" or the like
23:02.27ckSynergy*broad
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23:04.24ckSynergyFRICK! Its slow editing units.
23:04.52ckSynergyTaken me near 20 minutes just to go through 20
23:05.09ckSynergyand Im only changing a name via copy-paste
23:05.26ckSynergyerm, lets say prefix for make it easier to understand
23:06.38Daaracan't you just select multiple and do all at once?
23:07.47Daaraassuming they have the same prefix
23:08.47ckSynergyhmmm
23:08.52ckSynergyhadnt thought of that one second
23:10.29ckSynergyMarry me.
23:11.55Daarahaha
23:11.57Daarai'm taken :P
23:12.36ckSynergyOk, explain this to me. Why do zerg units need a burrowed version? I mean really? Why cant we just dynamically change a units mover and/or footprint
23:12.38ckSynergy*sigh*
23:12.52ckSynergyif it werent for those 2 things, units would be so much easier
23:13.08ckSynergyinstead of "zergling, burrowed zergling, winged zergling, burrowed wing zergling" etc
23:15.02DaaraWould be nice to know.
23:15.12DaaraI have a problem regarding footprints.
23:15.19DaaraThanks for reminding me.
23:15.33DaaraMy resurrection ability puts a death timer on all human units that can be ressurected.
23:15.49DaaraHowever because of this wherever a unit dies, nothing can be built there.
23:16.07DaaraEven like a minute after their death time has expired.
23:17.07ckSynergyuhhhh
23:17.16ckSynergyare your units death time set to -1?
23:17.21Daarano
23:17.23Daara30 seconds
23:17.28ckSynergyuh yea, might wanna set that
23:17.38Daara-1 is infinite
23:17.42ckSynergyoh, you want it limited to 30 seconds
23:17.43Daaraso it would be there forever
23:17.52ckSynergyright...
23:18.02Daarathe problem isn't the ability
23:18.05ckSynergyok wait
23:18.08Daararather the footprint left behind by the dead units
23:18.20ckSynergyonce youre past 30 seconds, they cant be ressurected at all?
23:18.25Daaracorrect
23:19.00Daaraat that point the unit should no longer exist
23:19.06ckSynergyRight
23:19.16ckSynergyWell you can always hack a trigger together
23:19.48ckSynergyUnit dies: wait 30s. if ((triggering unit) is dead) remove (triggering unit) from the game
23:20.12DaaraYea, I'll check into that.  I'd rather not have to make a trigger if at all possible.
23:20.57DaaraBlizz-Deletarius or Blizz-Artestru would you be able to comment on my issue with the footprint?
23:21.25ckSynergydid you set FieldColossus
23:21.26ckSynergyMovement: Pathing Footprint - Dead(None)
23:21.29ckSynergyoops
23:21.32ckSynergylol
23:21.59ckSynergydid you set a pathing footprint when theyre dead?
23:22.29Blizz-DeletariusDaara, would you be able to post it on the main forums?
23:22.32Daaraset at none
23:22.49Daaraafter i eat, i could
23:22.56Blizz-Deletariusok, thanks :)
23:23.19DaaraFieldHuman Unit - Footman Movement: Pathing Footprint(None) Movement: Pathing Footprint - Dead(None) Movement: Pathing Footprint - Placement(None)
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23:34.51Blizz-ArtestruDaara, it's hard to say without seeing how it's set up.  Are the dead and living heroes different units that you morph between?
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23:47.32DaaraBlizz-Artestru:  Regarding how it's setup.  Whenever a unit dies, for instance a Footman, it has a death time of 30.0 seconds.  My Ressurection ability can only target dead units.  
23:48.03Daara:<
23:51.15DaaraWhich forums Blizz-Deletarius?
23:52.22ckSynergymap maker forum
23:52.32Daaracustom maps one?
23:52.42SixenYeah, the Custom Maps forums on Battle.net
23:52.51Daarak
23:52.56Daarathx sixen and ck
23:53.04SixenNo worries. Do you already have a thread on mapster?
23:53.11Daarano
23:53.18Sixenoh, npp
23:53.26Daarai wasn't too worried about fixing this problem until i was closer to releasing the map
23:53.34Sixengotcha ^^
23:53.52ckSynergyYo Sixen!
23:53.57Sixenhai2u
23:54.11ckSynergyYou run sc2mapster?
23:54.14SixenYessir ;)
23:54.24ckSynergyexcellent job on the site
23:54.29Sixenthanks ^_^
23:54.42ckSynergyDoes it run on a cms system, or is it all hand coded?
23:55.06SixenIt runs on the Curse homemade software, Curseforge. It's a Curse site, but it's my baby.
23:55.23ckSynergyAh sweet
23:55.31ckSynergyhow much leverage do you have behind the code for it?
23:55.41ckSynergymeaning, what all can you edit as far as how it runs?
23:56.07SixenI can edit whatever I want but I'd have to get one of the employed devs to push it live
23:56.29ckSynergyAh gotcha
23:56.35Sixenand Curse has developers employed, so I don't really play with it just so they can do their own thing
23:56.36ckSynergyWell, I had this idea if you want to hear it
23:56.40Sixensure, feel free
23:57.08ckSynergyok, gimme a sec
23:57.14ckSynergyAs far as the wiki is concerned
23:57.29ckSynergyI was thinking, what if users could link to fields
23:57.47Sixenfields?
23:57.52ckSynergyLike, set up a "field" "Validator:Combines+", then have the description
23:58.07ckSynergythen users editing other pages could "link" to the "field", and it automatically pulls the description
23:58.22ckSynergyThat way everything stays uniform
23:59.14ckSynergySomething like [[Field link:Galaxy/Data/Validator:Combines+]] would show the title, and the description
23:59.35ckSynergythen under it we could add whatever additional notes needed to be added for that page
23:59.53Sixenoh ya, I think I understand

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