IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20120704

00:33.14RepoNew experimental map: FactionCraft - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/factioncraft/
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00:40.41Vailrethso i have a train ability that trains a civilian female who between 3 and 6 seconds after being trained Pops and spawns two larva
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01:11.14Altiorisdoes anyone know how to move the selected units panel?
01:12.05Altiorisi've figured out nearly every other object
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01:57.02piratewhy does 3dsmax make parts of models invisible as you zoom close to them?
02:00.44Altiorisnot a clue sorry :X
02:00.45Altiorisugh
02:00.50Altioristhis is frustrating as hell
02:00.57Altioriscan't get group unit icons to move
02:01.16Altioriswish helral were on
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02:55.17Altiorisanyone know ui here?
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11:14.42Mexahttp://falkvinge.net/2012/07/04/victory-acta-suffers-final-humiliating-defeat-in-european-parliament/ hah.
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16:22.56eimtrhey, how can I make a unit type unclickable that I need to enable clickable again through triggers later
16:23.35Bibendusunit flag
16:23.36Bibendusclickable
16:23.42Bibendusset unit flag
16:23.47Bibendusor set unit properties
16:23.50Bibendusdon't remember
16:23.53eimtryes but I want the unit to become clickable later in game
16:23.57Bibendusand it may be
16:23.58Bibendusselectable
16:24.00Bibendusnot clickable
16:24.09Bibendusthen you set the flag back
16:24.11Bibendusby trigger
16:24.15Bibendusyou can remove or add it
16:24.20Bibenduswith the same trigger
16:24.45eimtrwhat is the trigger
16:25.12eimtrive seen only make unit unvulnerable or uncommandable
16:25.15Bibendusshould be
16:25.17Bibendusset unit property
16:25.19Bibendusor set unit flag
16:25.26Bibendusthere are 2-3
16:25.39Bibendusbut you can set different things with each of them
16:26.10eimtrunit property has just life, kills,. minerals, level etc not flags
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16:26.46Bibendusthen try set unit flag
16:26.58MexaEvenin'
16:27.13eimtri dont see such action, for setting unit flag
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16:29.20eimtrmaybe set unit state but i dont see unclickable
16:30.04eimtrsec, right click with mouse on unit is targetable right?
16:30.20eimtri suppose it means targeting it
16:30.22eimtrlet's try
16:38.46Bibendusis selectable
16:39.07Bibendustargetable means that with some other unit you can target it for attack or whatever
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16:49.07eimtrso how do i make it walkable, liek as if the unit is not there at all, as if i am clicking gorund
16:54.01XenoX101hey quick question
16:54.14XenoX101does anyone know if its possible to hide the behaviour icon only when a behaviour is disabled?
16:54.24XenoX101it seems to stay there even when disabled, only disappers when the behaviour is removed
16:55.51Vailrethmaybe a requirement can hid it?
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17:03.53KuekenXenoX101: What Vailreth said. If what you want to do is not possible with a requirement, you are out of luck, I guess.
17:04.19Kuekenhowever, maybe there is some new functionality for that in patch 1.5, didn't check that yet
17:05.03Vailrethim looking and there dosent seem to be
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17:12.18Vailreththere seems to be a bug in 1.5 that causes the disable validtor to act like the remove validator feild
17:12.50Altiorisback again, if anyone knows how to move the icons for selected groups, let me know; I can also help with any UI questions :]
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17:13.46Vailrethnope i see now the behavior cant use the show only part of the validator
17:13.54Vailrethi mean requirement
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17:16.30Altiorisdoes helral ever log on to irc?
17:17.03VailrethXenoX101:  it appears that in 1.5  you can use a buff to disable another behavior and it will hide the icon for the disabled behaivor
17:18.03Mexa~seen helral|afk
17:18.13purlhelral|afk <~Helral.EU@54182E89.cm-5-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 175d 22h 50m 3s ago, saying: 'JademusSreg: go back to sleep ;p'.
17:18.21Mexa~seen sc2mapsterkitten
17:18.21purlsc2mapsterkitten <~Helral.EU@84.245.46.23> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 168d 1h 25m 1s ago, saying: 'try using Helral'.
17:18.36Mexahm
17:18.42Mexa~seen helral
17:18.43purlhelral <Helral.EU@54182E89.cm-5-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 51d 23h 52m 42s ago, saying: 'meow'.
17:18.48Altioristhat'd be a no, then
17:18.57Altiorisdamn
17:19.10Altiorismy sc2mapster keeps logging me out before i can post anything, does anyone know why?
17:19.12Mexaused to be here quite often, at least being idle.
17:19.50MexaCould be a cookie problem on your end
17:20.24MexaDoes it happend on other sites s well?
17:26.49Altiorisnot sure
17:27.00Altiorisnot on other curse sites in my experience
17:27.07Altiorisi cleared all my cookies in both browsers
17:27.08Altiorissame issue
17:27.09Altioris:X
17:37.18XenoX101hm
17:37.46XenoX101Vailreth: thanks for that, theres no way to get that in normally published maps though right?
17:37.56XenoX101i.e. open with 1.5 do the change then reload in 1.4.3 and publish
17:38.25XenoX101I have another question, does anyone know if theres an easy way to make a search area stick to the same plane (air/ground) as the caster?
17:38.29Vailrethi doubt it
17:38.40XenoX101ok
17:38.53XenoX101so like if caster is an air unit, search area will be only on air units
17:39.03XenoX101I think i'll need to do some stupid switch effect stuff with validators
17:39.33XenoX101hm, unless
17:39.54XenoX101unless I can get an awesome compare plane validator
17:40.11Ahliset effect with 2 effects and validators
17:40.26AhliI assume validators for that exist ;D
17:40.41Ahlivalidators are inside the search effects
17:40.54XenoX101I think I will need two "AND" validators with both caster and target being either air or ground
17:40.56XenoX101and then an OR in between
17:40.59XenoX101yeah
17:41.26Vailrethyeah a switch effect would be most effecient there i think
17:41.35XenoX101its strange some things blizzard are incredibly precise with
17:41.42XenoX101and other stuff like basic comparison dont exist
17:41.44Ahliyou can filter that with 2 search effects (ground/air) or use 1 generic and filter in a hit set per target
17:41.48Vailrethsets would be too cumbersome
17:42.05XenoX101yeah I think I'll filter in the hit
17:42.13Vailrethhm
17:43.25XenoX101the only other thing maybe
17:43.29XenoX101unit compare field
17:43.41XenoX101cause you can put supposedly any field
17:45.49Vailrethwhat are you trying to do by executing diffrent searches on the diffrent planes
17:46.28XenoX101its just splash damage
17:46.31XenoX101on particular plane
17:46.36XenoX101so target is air, air splash damage
17:46.39XenoX101etc
17:46.40Vailrethah
17:47.31AhliI've never used a switch effect. How does it work?
17:48.00XenoX101so I found out that ground is (1|0) and air is (0|1) in the PlaneArray field
17:48.08Ahlioh I see how it works
17:48.18Ahligood to know that it exists ^^
17:48.47Ahliyou can have 1 1 and 0 0, too
17:49.01XenoX101ah yeah
17:49.04XenoX101mm, yeah bugger that
17:49.19XenoX101alright, complicated validators it is
17:49.22Ahlibut 0 0 makes it only killable by weapons that only target regardless of planes like marine's guass rifle
17:49.29XenoX101validators are nice anyway ;p, usually play by the rules and fairly powerful
17:49.37XenoX101ic
18:13.04XenoX101damn, not having much luck with this
18:42.06XenoX101alright I got it
18:55.21XenoX101aw yeah
18:56.17XenoX101tip: if you have a morph ability that enables certain abilities to be used
18:56.24XenoX101but you want the player to be able to pre-queue those abilities
18:56.37XenoX101you can use a switch on the ability with a dummy damage effect to allow targeting
18:56.56XenoX101and if they queue it before the morph, then morph, then it activates it will use the new state
19:04.54XenoX101hm my autocast is weirding out now though
19:05.24XenoX101I morph one of my units and every unit near it has its autocast disabled o.o
19:07.26XenoX101oh wow
19:07.30XenoX101it actually isnt disabled
19:07.33XenoX101even though it looks like it
19:07.51XenoX101that is really weird
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19:08.59XenoX101well shit
19:09.19XenoX101now the player won't know whether its actually autocasting or not
19:14.29RepoNew experimental map: Spec Ops - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/spec-ops/
19:14.49RepoNew asset: Alex assets - http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/alex-assets/
19:14.50RepoNew asset: Red Protoss Effects - http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/re-protoss-effects/
19:14.50RepoNew asset: Team Genesis Flag - http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/team-genesis-flag/
19:15.39XenoX101ahh, you can fix the autocast bug
19:15.41XenoX101by using two seperate buttons
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20:25.17XenoX101hm
20:25.26XenoX101is there any way I can make a unit attach to another unit
20:25.31XenoX101or be in the exact same spot at all times?
20:27.28A1wintransport maybe?
20:27.38A1winunless you mean visually
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20:28.16XenoX101what would the difference be?
20:28.29A1windoesn't transport hide the unit?
20:29.59XenoX101oh not sure
20:30.21XenoX101hm
20:30.56XenoX101alright I think I know how to do tihs
20:31.08XenoX101its ugly but oh well
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