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| 00:45.18 | Altioris | heya |
| 00:51.29 | Altioris | using the new UI editor, how can i make a custom-shaped command card and frame to fit? I have a 1920x1200 image of the frame i want to use (with just a black background) but none of the tutorials i've found offer any advice. Sorry to bother and thanks |
| 00:52.57 | Vailreth | sorry I have no ideas about that |
| 00:53.09 | Altioris | darn :/ |
| 00:53.30 | Altioris | i've only gotten as far as hiding the original UI at the bottom |
| 00:53.36 | Vailreth | i have spent all day trying to play a video in a dialog. |
| 00:55.06 | Altioris | ouch |
| 00:55.29 | Altioris | have you tried using a unit portrait in the dialog with a custom animated portrait? |
| 00:55.47 | Altioris | not sure if it'd work, but it's all i can think of atm |
| 00:56.02 | Vailreth | no |
| 00:56.38 | Altioris | worth a shot i think |
| 00:56.44 | Vailreth | i need to play a video in a dialog i am trying to create animated health and power bars for a map |
| 00:56.51 | Altioris | hm |
| 00:57.36 | Vailreth | and the trigger that sets the movie file is set to use strings but at the same time dosent allow strings to be used |
| 00:58.01 | Altioris | that's confusing, have you tried the cutscenes editor? no idea how it works to be honest, but seems like it could help |
| 00:58.20 | Vailreth | no that is for animating the Storymode models |
| 00:59.02 | Vailreth | if i could code id probably be using unity instead of sc2 but i cant so im stuck in sc2 |
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| 01:05.20 | Altioris | that's confusing :/ |
| 01:11.07 | Vailreth | yes |
| 01:23.24 | Altioris | so nobody has an idea |
| 01:23.25 | Altioris | darn |
| 01:23.26 | Altioris | Dx |
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| 02:01.51 | Altioris | has anyone here made a custom UI yet? I figure out the buttons but not a custom frame and could use help |
| 02:24.39 | Vailreth | i did once in the prebeta editor with the ui editor as it stands im clueless |
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| 02:35.54 | Zandose | hi |
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| 02:37.24 | Dustin | hi |
| 02:38.18 | Zandose | you any good with math? like vectors |
| 02:44.45 | Dustin | little bit ya |
| 02:45.30 | Zandose | ok. lets give it a try |
| 02:47.02 | Zandose | I'm creating a unit with a crazy point/location value, like x1000y100z500 per-say, and I want to do like a 3D-polar-offset from the center of the map with a distance of only 12 |
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| 02:50.32 | Zandose | Example: I have a unit/ship in the center of the map. And I'm creating off these units/planets around it. But instead of using the standard map size I want to create planets far away, so I give these units a point value which is far away. Now as you know you cannot create/move units off the map, so any planet out of range of the ship will simply be offset from the ship towards the supposed planets location by a distance of 12. |
| 02:51.46 | Zandose | the trouble is that the editor only works with xy values for polar offsets |
| 02:52.41 | Dustin | Yeah, you're gonna have to make your own 3D polar Offset function |
| 02:53.10 | Dustin | SC2 doesnt handle dynamic height as well as I'd like |
| 02:53.33 | Zandose | yep. my problem is I don't know how to do that |
| 02:54.27 | Zandose | i believe I once saw a collection of functions for these but have no idea where or who made it |
| 02:55.49 | Dustin | so you're wanting the offset from the Planet and the middle of the map to be 12 units, including height right? |
| 02:56.27 | Dustin | That shouldnt be to hard |
| 02:57.10 | Dustin | you'll have to just get the hypatanose of the angle |
| 02:57.25 | Zandose | that doesn't sound right. from my space ship i want the planets to be "projected" 12 distance |
| 02:58.09 | Dustin | Oh i think I understand what you're saying |
| 02:58.25 | Dustin | So the ship doesnt move, the planets technically do |
| 02:58.32 | Zandose | yes |
| 02:59.32 | Dustin | That sounds alot more trickey |
| 02:59.53 | Zandose | oh |
| 03:00.11 | Zandose | i thought it wouldnt be that hard |
| 03:00.32 | Zandose | just a formula and i'd fill in the correct info |
| 03:01.22 | Zandose | btw, does this thing have a proper name? |
| 03:01.34 | Dustin | which ting? |
| 03:01.36 | Dustin | thing* |
| 03:02.27 | Zandose | the polar like offset in 3D |
| 03:02.45 | Zandose | vector offset towards vector or something |
| 03:02.53 | Dustin | Just a 3D Polar Offset |
| 03:03.00 | Zandose | just trying to google something to give me a idea |
| 03:03.29 | Dustin | Whats the view? |
| 03:03.36 | Dustin | Is it a 3rd person thing? |
| 03:03.58 | Zandose | first |
| 03:04.06 | Zandose | would you like to see the map to get a idea? |
| 03:04.13 | Dustin | Yeah that'd help alot |
| 03:04.27 | Dustin | Cause im picturing something in my mind and I dont think it's what you're doing hehe |
| 03:05.20 | Zandose | whats a good way to post a map quicky without use threads? |
| 03:05.29 | Zandose | ah |
| 03:05.34 | Zandose | private messages |
| 03:05.47 | Dustin | I suggest getting dropbox |
| 03:06.00 | Dustin | Serves as offsite backup and file sharing |
| 03:06.08 | Zandose | do you mind if i just pm you? |
| 03:06.12 | Dustin | not at all |
| 03:06.26 | Zandose | you using Dustin on sc2mapstar? |
| 03:06.32 | Dustin | Dustin374 |
| 03:07.46 | Zandose | done |
| 03:08.24 | Dustin | Beta editor or normal? |
| 03:08.30 | Zandose | normal |
| 03:08.38 | Dustin | what's this GAx3 mod |
| 03:08.49 | Zandose | oh yah |
| 03:09.11 | Zandose | lets me see if i can remove it. one sec |
| 03:09.32 | Dustin | I can open it without it |
| 03:09.39 | Dustin | just wasnt sure what all it had |
| 03:09.54 | Zandose | it should still work without it |
| 03:10.18 | Zandose | its just a mod to allow me to show different things to each player |
| 03:10.30 | Zandose | brb |
| 03:11.36 | Zandose | back |
| 03:12.19 | Zandose | so if your playing the mao you should be seeing these roundish units all around the ship. |
| 03:12.28 | Dustin | Guess I do need the mod |
| 03:12.34 | Zandose | hmm |
| 03:13.02 | Zandose | oh my your right |
| 03:13.12 | Zandose | i think i can correct this to not use the mod |
| 03:13.16 | Zandose | jive me a min |
| 03:14.32 | Dustin | nm |
| 03:14.37 | Dustin | I deleted the dependency and it works |
| 03:14.53 | Zandose | k |
| 03:16.56 | Dustin | So all these planets, are they created on the fly, or pregenerated |
| 03:17.21 | Zandose | pregenerated, but I would be creating things on the fly in the future |
| 03:18.00 | Zandose | I would be updating the position of the ships view of the planets every 1 second |
| 03:20.29 | Dustin | So really all you need to do is alter the planets x/y/z position based on the speed and viewing angle of the mouse. I assume the mouse controls the ships direction right? |
| 03:22.35 | Zandose | that doesnt sound exactly right. the mouse causes the camera to move and that determines which direction the ship will move in. |
| 03:22.51 | Zandose | the planets never change position |
| 03:23.34 | Zandose | but the ship is always in the center of the map and instead of the ship itself moving the view of the planets change |
| 03:23.54 | Dustin | Maybe im thinking of something else then |
| 03:24.01 | Zandose | ¿idk |
| 03:24.38 | Dustin | I pictured you flying through space and as you go the planets get closer and you see new planets |
| 03:25.24 | Zandose | im writing am example |
| 03:26.16 | Dustin | Are you just wanting how to get a 3d distance of 12 units? |
| 03:27.15 | Zandose | for example: the ship is at point x100y100z100 and a planet is at x100y100z200. if you looked up the from the ships point of view you'd see the planet directly above it. now if you moved the ship to x150y100z100 the ships view of the planet while looking directly up would be of the planet slightly off to one of the sides (left/right) |
| 03:27.56 | Zandose | "<Dustin> I pictured you flying through space and as you go the planets get closer and you see new planets" thats grand but I only see that working if you use the limit of the maps size |
| 03:28.25 | Dustin | not really |
| 03:28.32 | Dustin | You could so do that |
| 03:29.08 | Zandose | hmm |
| 03:29.15 | Dustin | You'd have to comeup with a way to store planet positions in a data table |
| 03:29.46 | Zandose | each planet has with own variable with a point/position |
| 03:30.21 | Zandose | i was going to use two systems |
| 03:30.59 | Zandose | one which stored the planets real position and another two gave a view of the general direction of the planet |
| 03:31.15 | Zandose | two = which |
| 03:32.27 | Zandose | im starting to lean towards using a large map instead of creating a system to handle planets off the map |
| 03:32.43 | Dustin | Yeah that'd be easier |
| 03:32.53 | Dustin | But the other way would be so much more versitle |
| 03:33.02 | Zandose | k, time to start over again |
| 03:33.11 | Zandose | i know |
| 03:33.28 | Dustin | You know how minecraft does it's map generation right? |
| 03:33.29 | Zandose | but i always encounter the math problems and the systems get complex |
| 03:33.34 | Dustin | It'd be similiar to that |
| 03:33.37 | Zandose | never played it |
| 03:33.52 | Dustin | Well the concept im thinking of would be similiar |
| 03:34.01 | Dustin | Everything is randomly generated |
| 03:35.36 | Dustin | So you start off in a randomly generated space, and as you fly out past your initial 12 unit radius, it auto randomizes more planets and saves it to a data table where you're storing and retrieving everyones data, so as multiple players go exploring and generating map, the other players will use the data already generated if they go over there |
| 03:36.26 | Dustin | but every time you played it'd be a randomly generated uniqe space that was limitless, well limited on the space a data table can hold |
| 03:37.24 | Zandose | ive been down the route of random generation and systems which increase map size before. it gets overtly complex and sc2 cant handle it |
| 03:38.14 | Dustin | With a setting like yours it definatley could |
| 03:38.38 | Dustin | all you're randomly generating and storing are the planet positions |
| 03:38.54 | Dustin | So it's just crunching raw numbers and reading/writing to a database |
| 03:39.01 | Zandose | perhaps. my last attemp was a ground based ?gundam-style? map |
| 03:39.16 | Dustin | And you'd just adjust actor placement within your 12 unit radius |
| 03:40.20 | Zandose | so your ship would be moving? how do you handle the resetting of the view? |
| 03:40.40 | Dustin | No not technically |
| 03:40.58 | Dustin | you'd be centered in the middle of the map |
| 03:41.27 | Zandose | perhaps I should start with a simple large map. if that projects works then i can try a system to extend the map |
| 03:41.37 | Dustin | And everything would just be displayed just to you based on the map generation, which also tracks each palyers virtual position |
| 03:42.51 | Dustin | Yeah that's probably a good idea |
| 03:45.06 | Zandose | ill work on it tomorrow as its too late tonight |
| 03:46.06 | Zandose | thank you for your help and good night |
| 03:47.13 | Dustin | no problem, night man |
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| 04:04.14 | Altioris | anyone here know how to edit UI properly? |
| 04:05.59 | Dustin | Im going with waiting for the UI Desinger |
| 04:06.50 | OCamlToe | Dustin.tv |
| 04:06.54 | OCamlToe | Dustin Browder |
| 04:07.02 | OCamlToe | Dust in my vagina |
| 04:07.15 | OCamlToe | Dustin' mah books |
| 04:08.24 | Dustin | Dust in the wind |
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| 04:11.11 | Dustin | Mexacan dinner |
| 04:13.33 | OCamlToe | Dustin, why isn't your name John? |
| 04:13.56 | OCamlToe | Dustin Powers |
| 04:13.58 | OCamlToe | Wy not Mike? |
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| 04:41.32 | grim001 | ... |
| 04:42.20 | Dustin | hey grim |
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| 04:47.08 | delineator | anyone know how to use Set unit Highlight Cursor? |
| 04:47.18 | delineator | dont know what to pass in for cursor |
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| 06:06.08 | Mexa | Bah, I'm tired of this. My bowel(s) haven't been normal for 6 days now :| |
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| 07:10.12 | Torhal | Mexa: Cool story? |
| 07:12.23 | Mexa | I don't know. This chat is still as idle. |
| 07:13.13 | Mexa | And apparantly you responded to it:p |
| 07:13.30 | Mexa | *e |
| 07:15.01 | Torhal | Well, that isn't something one would expect to see on a Starcraft 2 channel... |
| 07:15.05 | Torhal | Or really, any channel. |
| 07:15.30 | Mexa | I suppose not |
| 07:15.57 | Mexa | herpndepn |
| 07:32.18 | Mexa | Hey! Blizzard fixed the gpu issue I had with sc2 before |
| 07:32.41 | Mexa | Even with a 30fps cap in the battle.net menus, my fan hit 85C |
| 07:32.46 | Mexa | Now it's at 55C, stable |
| 07:33.19 | Mexa | @arcade beta |
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| 13:57.49 | Altioris | heyo |
| 14:14.04 | XenoX101 | hey |
| 14:14.29 | XenoX101 | hey I was just wondering if anyone here knows how to make beam actors that turn on and off based on behaviours or persistents |
| 14:14.40 | XenoX101 | rather than being attached to an attack |
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| 15:08.16 | XenoX101 | hm |
| 15:08.21 | XenoX101 | does teleport have anything to do with movement speed? |
| 15:08.27 | XenoX101 | I seem to be able to do it with some units and not with others |
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| 15:35.55 | Vail|Gone | hello folks |
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| 15:51.07 | Mexa | hmm, huh? http://translationparty.com/#10332034 |
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| 16:29.44 | XenoX101 | ahh yes |
| 16:29.48 | XenoX101 | teleport depends on movement speed |
| 16:30.31 | Vailreth | it does? |
| 16:53.16 | XenoX101 | sorry as in |
| 16:53.20 | XenoX101 | you need some movement speed |
| 16:53.26 | XenoX101 | and acceleration |
| 16:53.48 | XenoX101 | it uses the movement attributes somehow |
| 16:54.00 | XenoX101 | doesnt matter how much you have of it so I put it very little |
| 16:54.02 | XenoX101 | but yeah |
| 16:56.29 | Vailreth | od |
| 16:56.30 | Vailreth | s |
| 16:56.32 | Vailreth | dd |
| 16:56.35 | Vailreth | what ever |
| 16:59.11 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 16:59.37 | XenoX101 | what are you working on these days |
| 17:00.52 | Vailreth | nothing really i just help folks with their data issues |
| 17:01.08 | XenoX101 | ah yeah |
| 17:01.14 | Vailreth | i created a way to mimic the addons system ... |
| 17:01.15 | XenoX101 | I remember when you helped me like, a year ago or something |
| 17:01.18 | XenoX101 | with that fireball DoT |
| 17:01.37 | XenoX101 | ah yeah |
| 17:01.42 | XenoX101 | I think I've done something similar |
| 17:01.44 | Vailreth | which is useless because you can have multiple addons already ... |
| 17:01.46 | XenoX101 | addons are a fucking pain |
| 17:01.52 | XenoX101 | the alias system |
| 17:02.02 | XenoX101 | I can see why they did it that way |
| 17:02.16 | XenoX101 | but its frustrating when you first dabble with it |
| 17:02.34 | Vailreth | what addons do you mean i mean like reactor and Techlab.. |
| 17:02.38 | XenoX101 | yeah |
| 17:02.40 | Vailreth | ah |
| 17:03.28 | Vailreth | ok i used a specialize ability and some behaviors, validators and requirements to mimic it |
| 17:03.42 | XenoX101 | ic |
| 17:03.50 | XenoX101 | I think they do it with morphs |
| 17:04.10 | XenoX101 | and they use an alias for the tech lab to refer to all of them as one |
| 17:04.23 | XenoX101 | so tech lab (barracks), tech lab (starport), and tech lab (factory) |
| 17:04.25 | Vailreth | yeah they use behavors and morphs to change between structures for diffrent hosts |
| 17:04.31 | XenoX101 | all fall under the tech lab alias |
| 17:04.33 | XenoX101 | ya |
| 17:04.57 | XenoX101 | what did you need that fgor |
| 17:04.58 | XenoX101 | for* |
| 17:05.03 | XenoX101 | or just did it out of interest |
| 17:05.19 | Vailreth | my addons were host specific though. |
| 17:06.09 | Vailreth | i was experimenting trying to get a barracks to have multiple addons and for the life of i couldnt get the default build to make 2 so i created this method |
| 17:07.42 | Vailreth | turns out you can make a new buld with addon set and build as many addosn as you want ... |
| 17:08.46 | Vailreth | i think i can slavage my method and apply it to heros with pets so that having the pet buffs the hero |
| 17:13.03 | XenoX101 | whats it for |
| 17:13.40 | Vailreth | nothing really i just could do it |
| 17:15.14 | XenoX101 | ah yeah |
| 17:35.36 | XenoX101 | man I wish tint colour was better implemented |
| 17:35.54 | XenoX101 | the strength of the effect varies so widely from reasonable to excessive to non-existent |
| 17:37.14 | A1win | it's just a simple "decrease the amount of colors by this amount" thing |
| 17:37.37 | A1win | so if it's full black, there's nothing to decrease from, and if it's full white, you can have any color you want |
| 17:41.16 | XenoX101 | hm really? |
| 17:41.23 | XenoX101 | hmmm |
| 17:43.23 | XenoX101 | nah I tried with this purple |
| 17:43.32 | XenoX101 | if I make it almost white it still severly darkens the object |
| 17:43.39 | XenoX101 | if I make it nearly black then the object is nearly black |
| 17:45.25 | XenoX101 | or maybe it depends on saturation |
| 17:45.26 | XenoX101 | hm |
| 17:46.42 | XenoX101 | nope that does squat |
| 17:51.02 | A1win | if you make what almost white? |
| 17:51.33 | A1win | I mean if the *object* is pure white |
| 17:51.53 | A1win | if it's color value is 255 255 255, you can subtract from that to get any color between 0,0,0 and 255,255,255 |
| 17:52.00 | A1win | *its |
| 17:53.02 | A1win | the tint can only subtract, it can't add color |
| 17:53.08 | A1win | well, except with HDR I suppose |
| 17:54.40 | A1win | basically white tint color means "don't subtract anything" and black tint color means "subtract 255,255,255" |
| 18:11.01 | XenoX101 | hm |
| 18:11.25 | XenoX101 | well that explains a lot |
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| 19:08.24 | Vailreth | dun dun dun |
| 19:40.23 | Repo | New asset: Infested Zealot - http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/infested-zealot/ |
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| 19:49.48 | Repo | New announcement: Murderous - http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/murderous/ |
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| 21:45.59 | Vailreth | quick somebody need some data editor help |
| 21:46.06 | Vailreth | pleaese |
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| 22:30.30 | delineator | anyone know what the unit info text does? |
| 22:30.38 | delineator | tried setting it and saw nothing |
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| 22:38.54 | delineator | also trying to figure out how to convert a game link to a string.. wiki says string StringToText2(gamelink) but that doesn't seem to work at all |
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| 22:39.07 | delineator | won't even compile (galaxy ++) |
| 23:17.48 | Vailreth | hmm |
| 23:20.07 | A1win | delineator, game links are strings, you don't need to convert them |
| 23:21.48 | Vailreth | i wish i knew why i couldnt set the movie dialog object as a movie file |