| 00:03.43 | grim001 | trying to revive the old cosmos grammar file for GOLDParser but version 5.0 broke it somehow |
| 00:04.12 | Ahli | vailreth, that share unit control flag doesn't work with train ability costs ;S |
| 00:10.45 | grim001 | ok... fixed that. |
| 00:11.06 | grim001 | glad I don't have to make the grammar over again, that was a pain in the ass. |
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| 00:53.02 | Vailreth | hm |
| 00:53.23 | Vailreth | thats likely a bug |
| 00:53.35 | Vailreth | it used to work... |
| 00:56.55 | Ahli | at least not in my case with non neutral building |
| 00:57.27 | Vailreth | no the share control flag dosent work with any non neutral structure or unit |
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| 01:02.09 | DarkOrbis | Anyone know how to detect using triggers any ability when cast? |
| 01:03.33 | Ahli | Unit uses Ability? |
| 01:10.27 | DarkOrbis | yea |
| 01:10.37 | DarkOrbis | but 'any ability' |
| 01:12.13 | Kueken | not possible without registering all abilities |
| 01:12.16 | Kueken | afaik |
| 01:17.16 | Ahli | Chose "Any Ability Command"? |
| 01:20.07 | DarkOrbis | don't see one |
| 01:20.57 | Ahli | 1.5? |
| 01:21.26 | Ahli | it's the preset for the ability in 1.5. |
| 01:21.43 | RndmObjcts | I miss my buddy CurryDevil... he motivated me to work on my map lol... D: |
| 01:34.44 | DarkOrbis | I'm on 1.4 for this map |
| 01:35.03 | DarkOrbis | 1.5 isn't really out yet |
| 01:35.27 | DarkOrbis | so no reason to use it to work on my map when things could still change on 1.5 |
| 01:39.12 | Ahli | I like to work on 1.5 as I help to find all bugs. :D |
| 01:39.49 | Ahli | and I won't need to repair much when 1.5 hits as I already fixed everything (which isn't bugged) |
| 01:50.13 | DarkOrbis | but blizzard can easily change stuff in the beta editor and break someone really badly |
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| 02:11.53 | Ahli | I wonder what stop baseline does... doesn't seem to work for me ;D |
| 02:16.04 | DarkOrbis | so no one knows of any way to detect when any spell is cast? |
| 02:19.01 | Ahli | install 1.5, just do it. :D |
| 02:19.25 | Ahli | you could edit every spell to use a special effect that you detect |
| 02:24.18 | grim001 | you can probably detect the order |
| 02:26.44 | DarkOrbis | 1.5 is still in beta and can change too much from now til release |
| 02:27.04 | DarkOrbis | also I need testers which most people don't touch beta or ptr |
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| 02:30.48 | Vailreth | i would be developing for the 1.5 official release now instead of waiting for your map to break when it gets to 1.5 release |
| 02:32.41 | Vailreth | i honestly do not think the editor and engine will change that significantly between now andthen naybe the release of the finished ui editor but thats about it |
| 02:36.24 | Ahli | hmm, how can I stop the rotation of the pylon? one thing is the animation, the other thing is a turret |
| 02:37.07 | Vailreth | no clue i need to figure that out my self |
| 02:37.32 | Vailreth | maybe in the turret actor for they pylon you can pause it with a behavior? |
| 02:37.44 | DarkOrbis | Refer to my last 2 messages |
| 02:38.52 | Vailreth | as i said its not likly to be changed that significantly unless there is a major bug discovered and as for most people not touching beta seems more opinion than fact |
| 02:39.28 | Vailreth | besides you dont have to quit developing for 1.4.3 you can develop concurrently intil 1.4 is phased out |
| 02:39.44 | DarkOrbis | using 1.5 beta means no testers for my map until release |
| 02:40.00 | Vailreth | how do you know that? |
| 02:43.43 | DarkOrbis | look at the number of open games on beta right now |
| 02:43.49 | DarkOrbis | maybe like 5 |
| 02:46.39 | Kueken | probably the most common way to detect general spell casting is by making all abilities Ability -> Set -> Dummy effect + actual ability effect. Use the same dumm yeffect for all abilities and detect the execution of that effect |
| 02:48.56 | Ahli | kueken, how do I stop a turret from rotating? I want to keep my pylon still as long as a warpgate powering it hasn't been captured |
| 02:49.27 | Kueken | tried setting time scale to 0? |
| 02:50.01 | Ahli | I dislike the time scale thing |
| 02:50.23 | Kueken | then destroy the turret actor temporarily |
| 03:05.44 | DarkOrbis | :( |
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| 03:06.01 | Ahli_ | creating them doesn't work :S |
| 03:06.23 | DarkOrbis | looks like there is really no way to detect 'any ability' cast |
| 03:07.59 | DarkOrbis | :( |
| 03:14.29 | delineator | :):) is there a standardly known way to truncate the precision of a fixed number in galaxy script? |
| 03:16.51 | delineator | like, my fixed number says 558.984, and i just want it to say 558.9 |
| 03:16.56 | delineator | is there a good way to do that?> |
| 03:17.15 | grim001 | yes |
| 03:17.37 | grim001 | something like FixedToStringAdvanced |
| 03:18.35 | delineator | whoah |
| 03:18.41 | delineator | gonna have to check that one out |
| 03:18.56 | grim001 | FixedToTextAdvanced(fixedvalue, style, group, precision, maxdigits) |
| 03:19.20 | grim001 | are you actually coding using galaxy script? if so that makes you one of very few |
| 03:19.56 | delineator | galaxy++ |
| 03:20.04 | delineator | btw thanks! |
| 03:20.19 | grim001 | are you finding it to actually work without bugs and crashes |
| 03:20.21 | delineator | FixedToString(fixed val, int prec) |
| 03:20.25 | delineator | yepsir |
| 03:20.35 | delineator | not doing much other than basic coding with it though |
| 03:20.39 | delineator | nothing too fancy |
| 03:20.44 | grim001 | yes I'm sure it works for that |
| 03:20.49 | grim001 | if you try to use its advanced features, good luck |
| 03:20.58 | delineator | like what? |
| 03:21.00 | DarkOrbis | ewww, galaxy |
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| 03:21.36 | grim001 | classes and generics don't work so well |
| 03:21.53 | Mexa | sup!? |
| 03:21.59 | delineator | hmm ok |
| 03:22.47 | delineator | yo! |
| 03:23.03 | Mexa | What were you talking about? |
| 03:23.04 | grim001 | i'm working on an alternative now... let's see how far I get this time... |
| 03:23.16 | grim001 | galaxy++ classes and generics don't work so well |
| 03:23.23 | Mexa | ah |
| 03:23.34 | grim001 | I could not port my scripts into it |
| 03:23.39 | Mexa | Implementation-wise? |
| 03:23.45 | grim001 | not-crashing wise |
| 03:24.02 | Mexa | oh, that sucks. |
| 03:30.05 | DarkOrbis | sighs |
| 03:30.20 | Mexa | Grim, what are you working with? |
| 03:30.54 | Mexa | I mean, you said you are porting scripts. Any details:p? |
| 03:33.27 | DarkOrbis | any way to have the game display error messages into the chat log into of the error panel which doesn't show hardly anything of the message? |
| 03:34.28 | Mexa | come again? |
| 03:34.41 | grim001 | mexa currently I'm using GOLDParser to work on grammar for cosmos |
| 03:34.59 | Mexa | Oh, what's cosmos? |
| 03:35.06 | grim001 | I was inspired by the fact that galaxy++ still doesn't work well enough for me to port my scripts into it |
| 03:35.22 | grim001 | cosmos is that language extension I've talked about creating in the past |
| 03:35.46 | grim001 | I got decently far before then stopped due to being too busy |
| 03:35.47 | Mexa | Well, galaxy++ is somewhat obsolete now too, and not yet ready, and lacks updates prior to the 1.5 patch |
| 03:35.54 | Mexa | And has som implementation issues too anyway. |
| 03:36.08 | grim001 | yet it's the most advanced tool out there right now... |
| 03:36.09 | Mexa | I see |
| 03:36.14 | Mexa | Yeah |
| 03:36.18 | grim001 | I'm trying to make something that actually works |
| 03:36.42 | Mexa | I know Vestras(?) was working on something too, but it hasn't been updated for ages |
| 03:36.49 | Mexa | Moonlite map studio. |
| 03:36.49 | grim001 | I was just trying to refamiliarize myself with the grammar file I wrote for cosmos |
| 03:37.04 | grim001 | and I noticed that I enforced using brackets correctly in the grammar itself |
| 03:37.09 | grim001 | which amuses me |
| 03:37.31 | Mexa | Is cosmos a superset of galaxy or something entirely new? |
| 03:37.42 | Mexa | eg syntaxwise. |
| 03:37.47 | grim001 | similar to galaxy but not a superset of it |
| 03:38.00 | grim001 | no semicolons, too |
| 03:38.07 | grim001 | because fuck semicolons |
| 03:38.11 | Mexa | :> |
| 03:39.10 | DarkOrbis | i guess not then :( |
| 03:39.26 | Mexa | DarkOrbis, I didn't quite get the question. |
| 03:40.00 | Mexa | grim, so, like galaxy, but without semicolons? |
| 03:40.46 | grim001 | well it would look similar at first glance but I'm not really using galaxy as a basis |
| 03:40.49 | DarkOrbis | you know how error messages in-game go into a tiny error window where you can't even read the message. I want to output them into the chat window instead |
| 03:41.29 | grim001 | I want to take the best of what worked well in vjass and turn it into a simple, streamlined language that looks nice |
| 03:41.42 | Mexa | Hm, I believe you may need to change the error frame ui component in that case. |
| 03:41.51 | grim001 | after which i can start worrying about "advanced features" |
| 03:41.52 | Mexa | Making it larger and change the position |
| 03:42.15 | Mexa | Sounds nice grim. |
| 03:42.34 | Mexa | Though I would also make sure it was compatible with the existing features of vanilla galaxy for a starter. |
| 03:42.43 | Mexa | If I were you, I suppose. |
| 03:43.09 | Mexa | Or rather, don't forget them. |
| 03:43.09 | grim001 | I will expand it to encompass everything useful in vanilla galaxy, eventually, but that isn't a goal at the outset |
| 03:43.31 | DarkOrbis | I just want to display them in the chat window |
| 03:44.00 | Mexa | DarkOrbis, tere might be a trigger for it then. But I'm unsure. |
| 03:48.01 | Vailreth | Ahli i think the turret actors or bugged |
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| 03:57.23 | ckSynergy | I have a map where I change the water height and color via triggers, however when it changes, the water flow speed increases drastically during the change. Has anyone else experienced this bug? This is really noticable on low graphics |
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| 04:17.07 | DarkOrbis | :( no events for error messages |
| 04:26.36 | Mexa | You can tell it to log the errors to a file I think, if tha's any help. |
| 04:26.43 | Mexa | *that's |
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| 05:13.31 | Ronald_Reagan | I'm trying to follow the Zerg Invasion tut by OneTwoSC, however I am having a problem copying the armory. He tells me to copy the armory and the actors, and I do so, however the actors only display under the armory I duplicated, not the new armory. Getting confused by this I wondered if I didn't need to copy them and it was just a change between the editors, nope. I cannot get it to display a model in the editor no matter what |
| 05:13.32 | Ronald_Reagan | I try. |
| 05:19.08 | Mexa | http://www.thelocal.se/41648/20120626/ madness :( |
| 05:19.25 | Mexa | They should put her in the freezer instead.. |
| 05:22.05 | DarkOrbis | Why do I get the following error for players 4-10 but not for 1-3? "00:00:00.00 Trigger Error in 'gt_Initialization_Func': Could not get 'triggerDialog' from parameter in 'DialogSetVisible' (value: 0)" |
| 05:22.06 | Parthon | Ronald_Reagan: you need to duplicate them at the same time to get the token to update correctly |
| 05:22.31 | Parthon | you can also go to the new actor and change the token to point to the new armoury |
| 05:23.08 | Parthon | DarkOrbis: it's saying that you are using Triggered Dialog when there isn't one |
| 05:23.24 | DarkOrbis | what do you mean? |
| 05:24.08 | Mexa | The dialog passed in seems to be invalid. |
| 05:24.11 | Parthon | what event are you using for the trigger? |
| 05:24.17 | Mexa | eg null/zero |
| 05:24.47 | Ronald_Reagan | Parthon: By duplicating them at the same time you mean checking the box in the duplicate menu? I was doing that :P |
| 05:24.49 | DarkOrbis | its the same dialog for all 10 players |
| 05:25.02 | Ronald_Reagan | I'll check and make sure it is the right token though |
| 05:25.09 | DarkOrbis | same action for all 10 players |
| 05:25.15 | Parthon | Ronald_Reagan: yeah, that's what I meant :D |
| 05:25.35 | Mexa | DarkOrbis, what playergroup are you sending in? |
| 05:26.07 | DarkOrbis | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:26.37 | DarkOrbis | which shows/hides the dialogs for that view |
| 05:27.14 | Mexa | And you're certain you have enabled that those players exist? |
| 05:27.40 | Mexa | Also, what happends if one try to show the dialog for a player which isn't playing? |
| 05:27.51 | Parthon | DarkOrbis: what event are you using for the trigger? |
| 05:27.55 | DarkOrbis | only player 1 is in the game |
| 05:28.03 | DarkOrbis | 2-10 are empty |
| 05:28.46 | Mexa | Could you paste the line where you set the dialog visible? |
| 05:29.09 | DarkOrbis | First I run my setup action which creates all UIs and other game things. then at the end i place each player in the character screen |
| 05:29.49 | DarkOrbis | http://pastebin.com/fLNnAdng |
| 05:29.57 | Parthon | the error is because you are using "triggering dialog" in a trigger that doesn't support it |
| 05:30.00 | DarkOrbis | its actually an entire action |
| 05:30.05 | Parthon | so stop using it |
| 05:30.13 | DarkOrbis | works for players 1-3 |
| 05:30.20 | DarkOrbis | just not 4-10 |
| 05:32.07 | Mexa | Parthon, looks like that isirrelevant, since he is using the "UI - Frame" actions |
| 05:32.26 | Ronald_Reagan | Parthon: how do I change the token? |
| 05:32.30 | Ronald_Reagan | I'm not seeing it as a value |
| 05:32.41 | DarkOrbis | if it was invalid it wouldn't work for any player |
| 05:32.45 | Parthon | Ronald_Reagan: normally it's on it's own seperate mini-panel |
| 05:32.54 | Parthon | Mexa: that's not even the right trigger |
| 05:33.24 | DarkOrbis | here's the final action Dialog - Show/Hide Character Creation Frame for (Player group(Player)) |
| 05:33.43 | Mexa | oh... |
| 05:34.30 | Mexa | hrm |
| 05:34.44 | Parthon | can you paste the trigger code for the trigger that has that action in? |
| 05:34.50 | Mexa | DarkOrbis, so again, could you put that in context |
| 05:35.31 | DarkOrbis | do you have skype? i can show you on the cam |
| 05:35.46 | Parthon | omfg |
| 05:35.48 | DarkOrbis | I use a desktop cam program |
| 05:35.49 | Parthon | just paste the damn code |
| 05:36.01 | DarkOrbis | its in multiple spots |
| 05:36.23 | Parthon | how is one action in multiple triggers? |
| 05:36.46 | Mexa | It can be, of course. |
| 05:37.10 | Parthon | if it's in two different triggers, then it's two actions doing the same thing |
| 05:37.23 | Mexa | DarkOrbis, are you using patch 1.5? If so, go to you preferences and turn on "Break on error" in the test document tab. |
| 05:37.44 | DarkOrbis | http://pastebin.com/WKH06uNe |
| 05:37.47 | DarkOrbis | each step |
| 05:37.58 | DarkOrbis | I'm on 1.4 since 1.5 is only a beta |
| 05:39.48 | Parthon | ? |
| 05:40.05 | Parthon | why do you have a trigger for a specific player, but then in that trigger you are showing the dialog for all players? |
| 05:40.23 | Parthon | or does show/hide only work for player groups? |
| 05:40.36 | Parthon | not all players, I mean a player group based on a player |
| 05:41.09 | DarkOrbis | the first action fires on startup |
| 05:41.25 | DarkOrbis | places all players onto the character selection screen |
| 05:43.20 | Parthon | yeah, that's all obvious from the code |
| 05:46.16 | DarkOrbis | found it, something with the minimap frame |
| 05:50.29 | DarkOrbis | yup, looks like not all players had it created |
| 05:51.01 | DarkOrbis | -.- |
| 05:52.32 | DarkOrbis | I really should redesign the minimap frame |
| 05:53.32 | Parthon | fire the torpedoes! :D |
| 05:54.14 | DarkOrbis | but atm, its not a priority |
| 05:54.27 | DarkOrbis | combat is the next item on my list |
| 05:54.45 | DarkOrbis | need to figure out how I'm going do it |
| 05:56.04 | Parthon | hmm, a map size of 256x256 |
| 05:56.24 | Parthon | and I reveal a region of radius 512, and it doesn't reveal enough |
| 05:56.39 | Parthon | I think there's a max region size |
| 05:59.41 | Mexa | Why don't you just disable fog of war and black mask for the entire map? |
| 06:00.40 | Parthon | because I only want to reveal a medium sized area |
| 06:02.58 | Mexa | Mkay. I assumed the entire map since the radius you set there was larger than the entire map radius. |
| 06:03.08 | Parthon | unfortunately, it's only showing me a small sized area :P |
| 06:03.11 | Parthon | yeah I know |
| 06:03.20 | Parthon | I was increasing it by x2 trying to get it larger |
| 06:03.24 | Parthon | but it capped at 64 |
| 06:03.31 | Mexa | ah |
| 06:04.25 | Parthon | or 32 |
| 06:04.30 | Parthon | I can't tell which lol |
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| 06:06.29 | Parthon | blah blizzard, blah |
| 06:08.30 | Parthon | can't just do "closest unit to point" gotta pick it from a unit group |
| 06:09.33 | Mexa | Do one of your own. |
| 06:09.50 | Mexa | You'll need to use a unitgroup no matter what. |
| 06:10.51 | Parthon | but the unit group is "all units" |
| 06:12.22 | Parthon | yeah, I made a region of size 128, but the revealer will only reveal 32 |
| 06:13.42 | Parthon | it doesn't have a problem revealing a larger square region |
| 06:15.28 | Parthon | yay, gg blizzard |
| 06:15.35 | Parthon | it can't reveal circular regions bigger than 32 |
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| 06:49.29 | Ronald_Reagan | I'm still trying follow the tutorial (Zerg Invasion), and I do exactly what OneTwoSC does when he duplicates the armory. I check all of the actors (although I have four, not three), and then I hit ok. The new armory comes up as "Armory Copy" but it doesn't show any actors associated with it. When I check under the normal armory, it has the duplicates of the actors and the originals in the "actors" section. I check the tokens, |
| 06:49.30 | Ronald_Reagan | and they all point to my new armory, yet they are not under my armory. I also cannot see the armory when I place it on the map. I checked the actors, and they have the correct model it seems. |
| 06:49.48 | Ronald_Reagan | I am using 1.4.3 |
| 06:54.44 | Parthon | that's very odd |
| 06:56.04 | Ronald_Reagan | It is :( |
| 06:56.26 | Ronald_Reagan | I'm getting the sense that StarEdit isn't the most stable thing around? |
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| 07:17.14 | Ronald_Reagan | What is the "Model (editor)" field in the actors for? |
| 07:17.28 | Parthon | the model the editor uses |
| 07:17.42 | Ronald_Reagan | Because it is set for None on all the armories I use |
| 07:17.48 | Ronald_Reagan | *I see |
| 07:17.54 | Parthon | yeah, if it's set to none, it uses the game model |
| 07:18.24 | Ronald_Reagan | Ok, makes sense |
| 07:18.58 | Parthon | what actors are you duping? |
| 07:20.33 | Ronald_Reagan | I started off by duplicating all, but then tried with just the one actor ("Armory"), nothing has given me a different result. |
| 07:20.55 | Parthon | okay, go to the acto armoury copy and look at the events list |
| 07:23.06 | Ronald_Reagan | acto? |
| 07:25.11 | Parthon | actor |
| 07:25.14 | Parthon | irc at my r |
| 07:25.17 | Parthon | are |
| 07:25.19 | Parthon | ATE |
| 07:25.22 | Parthon | fuck irc, fuck it |
| 07:27.10 | Ronald_Reagan | the actor doesn't have an events list? |
| 07:27.20 | Ronald_Reagan | I just noticed the option to preview the actor, it previews fine |
| 07:27.26 | grim001 | man now I have to restructure all of the existing cosmos code to work with the new 5.0 GOLD engine for java |
| 07:27.32 | Parthon | all actors have an event list, that's what makes them work |
| 07:29.07 | Ronald_Reagan | Oh, I see it now |
| 07:29.21 | Parthon | and up the top of the list there should be UnitBirt.<unit> |
| 07:29.33 | Parthon | several in fact |
| 07:29.52 | Ronald_Reagan | Yep |
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| 07:36.11 | Ronald_Reagan | I see it |
| 07:38.32 | Parthon | yeah, is it the id of the new armoury? |
| 07:38.48 | Mittsies | Anyone know why the "Add Charge Regen Time" trigger might not be working? It was working fine until a certain patch and now it's just broken for me. |
| 07:39.53 | Parthon | I've always had problems with charge regens :( |
| 07:41.25 | Parthon | is it out of charges when you do it? |
| 07:41.31 | Ronald_Reagan | Parthon: it is the id of the old armory |
| 07:42.12 | Parthon | yeah, that means the dupe didn't work correctly :/ |
| 07:42.15 | Parthon | that id is the token |
| 07:43.05 | Ronald_Reagan | :P |
| 07:43.10 | Ronald_Reagan | time to do some find replace |
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| 07:52.08 | Parthon | yeah, when you duplicate, that should be changed correctly |
| 07:52.15 | Parthon | if it's not, then you have to change it manually |
| 07:52.20 | Parthon | the token allows you to change it too |
| 07:53.07 | Ronald_Reagan | Well, the token is set correctly |
| 07:53.23 | Parthon | yeah |
| 07:53.49 | Parthon | you can try set it to id that didn't change correctly, then to the new one, and see if it 'hooks' it properly |
| 07:54.06 | Parthon | cause that's all it does, is search/replace |
| 07:54.13 | Parthon | and if you set it to nothing, bad things happen :P |
| 07:55.40 | Ronald_Reagan | Thanks a ton |
| 07:55.49 | Ronald_Reagan | That did the search and replace |
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| 07:56.29 | Ronald_Reagan | And fixed the problem :) |
| 07:58.10 | Parthon | I hate actors so much |
| 07:58.29 | Parthon | I find that the editor, while powerful, is just too cumbersum |
| 07:58.39 | Parthon | too many values to change, too many things can go wrong |
| 07:58.49 | Parthon | you gotta be an expert just to do minor things |
| 08:02.13 | Ronald_Reagan | Makes it a bit hard to go through tutorials ;) |
| 08:03.55 | grim001 | yeah that's brilliant. the new java engine for GOLD expects you to manually split a 10,000+ line text file into hundreds of individual java classes |
| 08:04.15 | Parthon | lol |
| 08:04.21 | Parthon | was that written by blizzard too? |
| 08:07.05 | grim001 | It was written by some random guy who wanted GOLD to work in java. |
| 08:07.14 | Parthon | what is GOLD? |
| 08:07.34 | grim001 | it is a parser builder, used to design the grammar for a programming/scripting language |
| 08:07.40 | Parthon | aah okay |
| 08:08.16 | grim001 | and the old version of it is totally broken... I had to ransack the source code and edit it... |
| 08:08.35 | grim001 | without the permission of the author, gasp |
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| 08:28.34 | ________________ | The attack animation from my weapon stops midway, and if I let the attack continue to hit the same target it bugs out even more. Ne1 know why? |
| 08:33.48 | Parthon | your actor is broken |
| 08:35.20 | ________________ | sounds like it, dunno where i messed it up tho.... I used the same weapon start/stop line as every other unit's actor |
| 08:36.20 | Parthon | changed the weapon speed? |
| 08:36.44 | ________________ | how would that affect it? |
| 08:37.26 | Parthon | because animation doesn't scale with weapon speed |
| 08:37.37 | Parthon | so if the weapon is faster than the animation, the animation glitches |
| 08:37.59 | ________________ | oh its not, the period for the weapon is huge... its like 5 seconds |
| 08:38.25 | Parthon | it takes that long to fire? |
| 08:38.48 | ________________ | nah i just want a huge cooldown between shots |
| 08:39.09 | Parthon | then use cooldown, not period |
| 08:39.56 | ________________ | wats the diff on a weapon? |
| 08:40.30 | Parthon | period, they could just move to cancel the backswing and attack again |
| 08:41.21 | ________________ | oh nah im not using backswing, thats set to 0... the period is 5 seconds... they def can't move and attack again with the period set to 5 |
| 08:42.35 | Parthon | throws his hands up in the air |
| 08:42.41 | ________________ | lol |
| 08:42.44 | Parthon | that's why your animation doesn't work, there's no backswing |
| 08:42.58 | ________________ | oops D: |
| 08:43.05 | ________________ | i need backswing? |
| 08:43.10 | ________________ | didnt think i did |
| 08:43.12 | Parthon | and with such a long period, that's why it gets stuck |
| 08:43.50 | ________________ | wat should my backswing be compared to my period |
| 08:44.20 | Parthon | 0.5 is average |
| 08:45.00 | ________________ | k ill try it out |
| 08:45.16 | Parthon | but that period is also the animation length |
| 08:45.33 | Parthon | so if you want them to just fire once, then have to wait, a cooldown is the way to go |
| 08:48.39 | ________________ | backswing didnt fix it so ill try playing with period |
| 08:48.44 | ________________ | and adding cooldown instead |
| 08:50.34 | Parthon | the only tricky bit .. if you add more than one weapon, you need to link the cooldowns, otherwise they'll both fire one after the other |
| 08:50.40 | Parthon | depending on targets of course |
| 09:03.46 | Ronald_Reagan | How do I change effects on an unit? Can I just change a link? |
| 09:05.15 | Parthon | depends on the effect, which effect? |
| 09:06.11 | Ronald_Reagan | Zergling Claws |
| 09:06.26 | Parthon | aah, then you just change the effect in the weapon |
| 09:06.42 | Parthon | the links are zergling -> weapon -> effect |
| 09:07.24 | Parthon | you know in the bottom left where there's the links? |
| 09:09.23 | Parthon | you can right click on a link and go explain link and it tells you why, and that helps you find it to change it |
| 09:10.59 | Ronald_Reagan | Ah |
| 09:11.01 | Ronald_Reagan | Ok, thanks :) |
| 09:16.19 | Parthon | undocumented features |
| 09:22.56 | ________________ | animation still stopping halfway thru =\ |
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| 09:31.08 | grim001 | deaod |
| 09:34.32 | grim001 | I'm guessing you don't use GOLD anymore |
| 09:37.17 | grim001 | but I've updated the GOLD java engine a bit |
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| 10:19.10 | Ronald_Reagan | I have to say, this OneTwoSC guy is nice and all, but he doesn't seem like an actual coder ;) |
| 10:19.16 | Ronald_Reagan | Just because of his method :> |
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| 10:28.59 | Mexa | Hmm.. new sc2 beta patch ey? |
| 10:36.39 | grim001 | cosmos lives again |
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| 10:48.40 | Stewox | anyone here |
| 10:49.04 | grim001 | yes |
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| 10:51.31 | Stewox | you worked with movers and actors ? |
| 10:55.14 | Stewox | grim001 |
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| 11:03.55 | Deaod | grim, im still working with gold |
| 11:04.14 | Deaod | but theres a new version of gold and a new Java engine that works with it |
| 11:04.25 | Deaod | the new engine seems much cleaner |
| 11:06.03 | grim001 | I did look at the new engine |
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| 11:40.06 | Stewox | so you guys worked with movers actors ? |
| 11:40.23 | ________________ | nop :3 |
| 11:40.33 | ________________ | wait, like.. rocker movers? |
| 11:40.35 | Parthon | still going on about that? |
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| 11:56.53 | Mexa | http://www.weknowwhatyouredoing.com/ |
| 11:59.03 | Deaod | good thing i dont have a facebook account |
| 11:59.16 | Mexa | :p |
| 11:59.29 | Deaod | or a twitter account |
| 11:59.31 | Mexa | I don't see why you would ever ever write silly things even if you did. |
| 11:59.33 | Deaod | or g+ |
| 12:00.07 | Deaod | point is, its hard to keep privacy tight |
| 12:00.13 | Mexa | That's also similar http://pleaserobme.com/ |
| 12:00.37 | Mexa | Well, how hard is it to not set your facebook activity to "friends only"? |
| 12:00.43 | Deaod | idk. |
| 12:00.57 | Mexa | Or to perhaps not write about how much you hate your boss at all? |
| 12:01.46 | Mexa | "m getting so mad right now I hate my boss Jay I hope he dies better yet I feel like killin him if you in a bad mood don't take it out on everyone at the job like wtf its way to hot to take your shit-_- #Piss off" |
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| 12:02.22 | Deaod | well, people are stupid. |
| 12:02.42 | Deaod | but its hard to not let something accidentally slip |
| 12:02.47 | Deaod | especially when drunk |
| 12:02.53 | Deaod | or otherwise intoxicated |
| 12:02.57 | Mexa | meh:p |
| 12:03.20 | Mexa | Still, that common thing such as setting your activity to not be public is a one time thing. |
| 12:03.55 | Deaod | yeah |
| 12:04.01 | Deaod | well |
| 12:04.04 | Deaod | what do i know |
| 12:04.12 | Deaod | if it is, theres no reason to leave it public |
| 12:04.38 | Deaod | but even if its friends only, some are stupid enough to add their boss as friends |
| 12:04.51 | Mexa | Well, it will minimize the risk, at least. |
| 12:04.59 | Deaod | agreed |
| 12:06.00 | Mexa | I like the guy who posted in public to become revealed at that site though:p |
| 12:07.48 | Mexa | Oh blah, afk again. Apparantly my stomach is not on the positive side today.. |
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| 12:23.13 | Stewox | hey deaod |
| 12:23.22 | Stewox | you wokred with movers and actors in deep ? |
| 12:24.24 | Deaod | nope |
| 12:24.28 | Stewox | what about you mexa |
| 12:24.41 | Stewox | you're up for extending movers |
| 12:24.51 | Stewox | currenty they're useless |
| 12:25.27 | Stewox | but you want to have aircraft more control, generally units ? |
| 13:01.10 | Mexa | Sorry Stewox, my knowledge of the data section is too limited overall. |
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| 13:02.37 | Stewox | would you be interested in managing this |
| 13:02.53 | Mexa | And I have had no time currently in modding |
| 13:02.54 | Stewox | http://piratenpad.de/p/sc2_extended_mover_modability |
| 13:03.28 | Mexa | I've looked through that briefly already, but I just have no thoughts so far. |
| 13:03.53 | Mexa | I have too little commitment currently. |
| 13:04.51 | Mexa | It would be better if you search for someone else, sorry .-. |
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| 13:10.19 | eimtr | hi can any1 tell me, which starmap hologram model is used here, above the starmap? |
| 13:10.23 | eimtr | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzKpxpz-EL4 |
| 13:11.01 | eimtr | cause the only one i found was the UI/Starmap/PlanetViewgalaxy and it has some space sphere |
| 13:17.07 | Stewox | i wouldn't have that knowledge so ... anyone else |
| 13:18.12 | eimtr | Hyperion Bridge Holomap, I knew it was another model from the PlanetViewGalaxy :) |
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| 13:42.29 | Ashamed | =.- |
| 13:46.25 | Ashamed | reading up on d3 and blizzard really did kill this one lol |
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| 13:55.33 | Ahli | did anyone try out the CActorArc, yet? |
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| 14:39.54 | delineator | can anyone tell me what is a game link? |
| 14:44.14 | delineator | aaarrrggghgh!!! im SO ANNOYED that there is no simple way to convert a unit to a string or get a unique id for it (that i can convert to a string) |
| 14:45.01 | Tomura | a gamelink is the string that is used as a id for any datatype that you have in the dataeditor |
| 14:45.13 | Tomura | and no there is no unique id in sc2 |
| 14:50.09 | delineator | ok thanks |
| 14:52.16 | delineator | but if i compare one marine unit to another, won't they turn up different? |
| 14:55.03 | Vailreth | i know what happened to D3 blizzard pannicked because people were beating it too quickly and went Nerf Nerf Nerf to try and slow people down |
| 15:04.32 | Ashamed | because they didn't add anything to the game lol |
| 15:04.53 | Ashamed | i was reading shit.. and there has been reports of as little as like 100 people online |
| 15:05.00 | Ashamed | for a region |
| 15:05.05 | Vailreth | nice |
| 15:05.25 | Ashamed | 6 million people bought it.. and they are averaging around 1k-5k online. lol |
| 15:05.49 | Vailreth | i stopped playing day 3 of owning it |
| 15:06.00 | Ashamed | me too... |
| 15:06.11 | Vailreth | it's just not compelling enough to finish or play again |
| 15:06.48 | Ashamed | making one extremly hard mode does not make it a good game blizzard -.- |
| 15:07.30 | Vailreth | hard modes do not impress me because i do not play on them i have enough trouble playing on normal modes. |
| 15:07.59 | Ashamed | lol |
| 15:08.03 | Ashamed | i am on hell lvl 55 |
| 15:08.06 | Ashamed | and pretty much done |
| 15:08.28 | Vailreth | yeah, |
| 15:09.03 | Ashamed | i have been playing Zelda Skyward bound |
| 15:09.05 | Ashamed | ;) |
| 15:09.07 | Vailreth | i made it to act two with two diffrent classes and stopped because it just wasnt fun. |
| 15:09.41 | Ashamed | like act 2 normal? |
| 15:09.46 | Vailreth | yes |
| 15:11.05 | Vailreth | there are other things i could do that are more fun so i stopped. it didnt help that i was dying so much. |
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| 15:32.36 | Ahli | warpgates look like gateways in 1.5 :S |
| 15:32.50 | Ahli | when you lose vision of them and the image in the fog appears |
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| 17:23.28 | DarkOrbis | hi |
| 17:23.42 | Vailreth | hello |
| 17:25.05 | DarkOrbis | still can't find a way to detect any ability used |
| 17:25.36 | DarkOrbis | :( |
| 17:29.01 | DarkOrbis | so stupid to have no 'Any Ability' for the event 'Unit uses ability' |
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| 17:40.06 | Vailreth | yes blizzard realized this and added that preset in 1.5 beta |
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| 18:12.45 | DarkOrbis | 1.5 isn't out yet |
| 18:13.27 | Vailreth | the beta is. |
| 18:23.37 | Ashamed | oh >< just got a tv cam working with a tv tuner for a PC >< |
| 18:23.38 | Ashamed | erg |
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| 18:43.19 | Vailreth | ah' |
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| 19:51.27 | ThunderLord_ | when using terran objects how do you get them to actually blend in with the rest of your terrain, i always get a square of terrain around it that looks much darker |
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| 20:52.12 | ThunderLord_ | whenever i place a terrain object in my terrain editor, the terrain in a square around the object turns darker than the rest, and i have no clue why |
| 20:52.27 | ThunderLord_ | any suggestions? |
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| 21:24.39 | Vailreth | report the bug to blizzard |
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| 23:38.31 | Ronald_Reagan | Where are the unit prices found? |
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