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| 01:37.38 | prencher | Sixen: waaa? |
| 01:37.59 | Sixen | I dunno what happened, you're green now too |
| 01:38.00 | Sixen | :O |
| 01:38.10 | Sixen | also, I see you're here, haha |
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| 01:59.00 | Repo | New announcement: Rebirth of the Swarm Teaser - http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/rebirth-of-the-swarm-teaser/ |
| 02:01.21 | Mexa | Sixen, all posts are too narrow to contain such image proportions :| |
| 02:02.17 | Sixen | I didn't mean to hit submit :( |
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| 02:38.06 | Dustin | Suuup |
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| 03:17.09 | QueenG | Hi guys |
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| 03:51.27 | ________________ | first time being in here in a while and not seeing jades |
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| 05:51.50 | Repo | New experimental map: HeroCore - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/herocore/ |
| 05:51.50 | Repo | New experimental map: A Long Road Home TD - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/long-road-home-td/ |
| 05:52.00 | Repo | New asset: Vector (Ghost) - http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/vector-ghost/ |
| 05:52.01 | Repo | New asset: Dustins Unit Indexing Library - http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/dustins-unit-indexing-library/ |
| 05:52.01 | Repo | New asset: Aldaris Portrait Texture - http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/aldaris-portrait-texture/ |
| 05:52.01 | Repo | New asset: Mjolnir - http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/mjolnir/ |
| 05:52.01 | Repo | New asset: Armed Miner - http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/armed-miner/ |
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| 06:33.44 | Mexa | Off to the train! |
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| 06:47.52 | MKmisfit | i wish i had time to update my mario kart map to arcade mode |
| 06:48.08 | MKmisfit | ive been planing to update the map and release it as open source |
| 06:48.25 | MKmisfit | so that people could make new tracks to race on |
| 06:49.21 | MKmisfit | havent had too much time to look at arcade mode because im working on a big standalone project |
| 06:50.17 | MKmisfit | the mario kart map is called SC Rally on NA server, if anyone is interest, im thinking about just giving the whole map away to someone more active |
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| 13:23.38 | RndmObjcts | Been awhile since i messed with the editor, Anyone know of a good tut on how to apply a behavior that gradually builds a stat over time, say movement speed particularly? |
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| 16:01.36 | Vailreth | heyo mapsteres |
| 16:03.27 | Vailreth | hello anybody home? |
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| 16:08.51 | Vailreth | i guess every one must be occupied for now, eh well |
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| 17:22.19 | Vailreth | Parthon you here? how is the TD map coming? |
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| 17:30.29 | Zandose | hey. nothing is showing up in my data editor and I can't figure out why. |
| 17:31.40 | Vailreth | which version and what exactly do you mean by nothing? |
| 17:32.44 | Zandose | one sec |
| 17:33.38 | Zandose | version 1.4.3 |
| 17:34.18 | Vailreth | and what dependencies are you using ? |
| 17:34.19 | Zandose | the data editor opens up but there is nothing. for instance, if i use the unit tab there are no units, its blank. |
| 17:35.30 | Zandose | liberty (mod) and liberty multi (mod) |
| 17:36.06 | Vailreth | strange would you mind sceenshotting your editor and hosting it somwhere so i could have a look? |
| 17:36.11 | Zandose | everything seems normal, just nothing shows up. |
| 17:36.26 | Zandose | sure. whats a easy site to upload to? |
| 17:37.07 | Vailreth | not sure ive had a photobucket account for years |
| 17:37.52 | Vailreth | http://imgur.com/ |
| 17:38.29 | Zandose | http://imgur.com/GmlCx |
| 17:40.57 | Zandose | i can create units.... |
| 17:41.30 | Vailreth | very strange maybe restarting the editor? |
| 17:41.46 | Vailreth | wait |
| 17:41.55 | Vailreth | see if you have a space in the searhc bar |
| 17:42.25 | Zandose | already restarted and nothing in the search bars |
| 17:43.24 | Vailreth | thats the only thing i can think of is two or more spaces in the search bar .. |
| 17:44.21 | Vailreth | maybe deleting the editor varibles file ... |
| 17:44.39 | Zandose | im am so stupid |
| 17:44.46 | Vailreth | what? |
| 17:44.48 | Zandose | just figured it out |
| 17:44.53 | Vailreth | what ? |
| 17:45.39 | Zandose | so the divider between the units and the units info, it was moved up and hiding the units |
| 17:46.01 | Vailreth | i see |
| 17:46.12 | Zandose | i have no idea why it was though |
| 17:46.22 | Vailreth | no clue |
| 17:46.35 | Zandose | well that was an annoying 10 minutes |
| 17:46.48 | Vailreth | yes |
| 17:47.07 | Vailreth | http://youtu.be/oGdiEwY3xpY |
| 17:47.29 | Vailreth | my rough attempt at some comedy |
| 17:47.52 | Zandose | now i just need to figure out how to change a flying unit to have a height offset of 0 |
| 17:48.22 | Vailreth | height field |
| 17:48.46 | Parthon | Vailreth: heya man |
| 17:48.57 | Parthon | had other stuff going on last couple of days, so no progress |
| 17:49.04 | Parthon | tomorrow though, all day mapping :D |
| 17:49.12 | Vailreth | ah well life gets in the way sometimes |
| 17:49.42 | Vailreth | i see |
| 17:51.30 | Zandose | well im done for now. thank you for the help. |
| 17:51.38 | Vailreth | nod |
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| 18:54.16 | Parthon | Vailreth: should I finish all the towers first, or just get basic round-play done so I can start testing on battlenet? |
| 18:54.26 | ________________ | round play |
| 18:54.31 | ________________ | towers can always be added later |
| 18:56.32 | Parthon | yeah, I was thinking the same thing |
| 19:10.20 | ThunderLord_ | Is it possible to change what is displayed where a units Armor is usually displayed on a hero? like have it show movement speed instead? |
| 19:13.08 | Parthon | don't think s |
| 19:13.09 | Parthon | so |
| 19:13.18 | ThunderLord_ | well |
| 19:13.19 | ThunderLord_ | that |
| 19:13.21 | ThunderLord_ | sucks |
| 19:13.24 | ThunderLord_ | lol |
| 19:14.10 | Vailreth | maybe if you edit the UI but i doubt it |
| 19:14.26 | Vailreth | and im back from stuff |
| 19:17.07 | ThunderLord_ | Could i just hide it? |
| 19:17.15 | Vailreth | i need a topic for my data editing stream |
| 19:17.47 | Parthon | a stream like teaching people how to data edit? |
| 19:18.34 | Vailreth | well newbie wednessday covers alot of basics on the editor i was thinking a show that features more advanced emplementations |
| 19:18.59 | Vailreth | like extending attributes through validators and buffs.. |
| 19:19.25 | Vailreth | or other stuff i cant think of off the top of my head |
| 19:19.46 | Parthon | aah cool |
| 19:20.44 | Vailreth | like for one hero in my mod i have the attribute head hunter, for every level of the attribute he gets a higher chance to instagib a target |
| 19:20.52 | Parthon | nice |
| 19:21.02 | Parthon | is that using validators to apply a buff? |
| 19:21.24 | Vailreth | its based on one attribute four validators and four buffs |
| 19:22.04 | Vailreth | as the level of the attribute goes up it allows each next buff to turn on and shuts off the previous |
| 19:22.38 | Parthon | yup, thought it would be like that |
| 19:22.51 | Vailreth | nod |
| 19:23.01 | Parthon | hmm, this is a tricky one |
| 19:23.21 | Vailreth | what is? |
| 19:23.23 | Parthon | I have a mine tower that lays mines, these mines get buffed to do 150% damage, but it's not being applied |
| 19:23.37 | Parthon | is it because the mine needs a weapon? |
| 19:23.47 | Parthon | I mean the buff is being applied, but the damage stays the same |
| 19:24.15 | Vailreth | how are you trying to increase the damage output? |
| 19:24.44 | Parthon | buff changes combat values |
| 19:25.00 | Vailreth | which ones? |
| 19:25.11 | Parthon | I forget what it's called, the fraction one |
| 19:25.20 | Parthon | it's set to +0.5 for all 4 damage types |
| 19:25.25 | Vailreth | in damage respone? |
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| 19:25.53 | Mexa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8ZLpGOOA1Q swedish midsummer for dummies guys. Come and join in the fun tomorrow:P |
| 19:26.13 | Parthon | Damage Dealt Fraction |
| 19:26.28 | Parthon | not in death response |
| 19:26.33 | Vailreth | nod |
| 19:26.57 | Parthon | it works on my towers, just not on the mines |
| 19:27.18 | Vailreth | i dont think it should need a weapon i think its your caster filters on the mines effects |
| 19:27.55 | Parthon | the buff is appearing correctly on the mines though |
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| 19:28.34 | Vailreth | i mean the effects spawned by the mines behaviors may not be eneheriting the mine as their caster or source |
| 19:28.43 | Parthon | ah okay |
| 19:29.07 | ThunderLord_ | Hey is anyone else having the problem where since the 1.5 patch beta that, when in the data editor, and you Shift select several things, most of the data fields dissapear so you cannot edit like 10 fields at once? |
| 19:29.20 | Repo | New map: Mining Defense - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/mining-defense/ |
| 19:31.51 | Parthon | Vailreth: yeah, I think that's the reason, I'm not sure how to fix it |
| 19:33.50 | Vailreth | what is the Target Launch Location Value set to for the damage effect used by the mines behaviors? |
| 19:34.25 | Parthon | Source Unit |
| 19:34.40 | Vailreth | try caster unit |
| 19:35.31 | Parthon | okies |
| 19:36.23 | Parthon | no chaneg |
| 19:36.26 | Parthon | change* |
| 19:36.30 | Vailreth | hmm |
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| 19:44.51 | Parthon | it could be that I'm using behaviours for everything, so source is unknown |
| 19:46.35 | Vailreth | i was doing some testing and it appears that the buff is working |
| 19:47.11 | Vailreth | its just adding like .5 % of the units max helth as damage |
| 19:48.03 | Parthon | yeah, the tool tip is wrong |
| 19:48.39 | Parthon | it's working on everything except the mines, that's what's got me confused |
| 19:49.04 | Vailreth | hm |
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| 19:53.41 | Parthon | I could just make the mines non-empowerable |
| 19:53.51 | Parthon | that solves the quandry in a way |
| 19:56.35 | Vailreth | looks like it only works for abilities and weapons |
| 19:56.58 | Vailreth | you could redesign the mine if you want to power them up |
| 19:59.33 | Parthon | going to try turn it into an ability |
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| 20:01.16 | Vailreth | what you may want to do is give the mine a weapon |
| 20:01.50 | Parthon | yup, it works as an ability |
| 20:02.15 | Vailreth | if it can be make the weapon channeled and create a persistent effect to count down then an issue order ording the mine to use the ability |
| 20:03.50 | Parthon | that would work |
| 20:03.58 | Parthon | then I could get rid of this behaviour |
| 20:04.08 | Vailreth | yeah |
| 20:04.47 | Parthon | I wonder if the weapon would affect the mine suicide too |
| 20:07.01 | Vailreth | how do you mean? |
| 20:07.19 | Parthon | I'm using a behaviour to trigger the mine |
| 20:07.28 | Parthon | oh wait, I can just use that to use the ability |
| 20:07.54 | Vailreth | the weapon could be more resource effecinet |
| 20:08.24 | Parthon | yeah |
| 20:15.48 | Parthon | ha, that should be better |
| 20:21.13 | Parthon | okay, I have no idea if this will work |
| 20:23.01 | Parthon | it didn't |
| 20:23.36 | Vailreth | does the mine have sight radius greater than 0 |
| 20:23.47 | Parthon | yup |
| 20:23.54 | Vailreth | mine works |
| 20:24.07 | Vailreth | my mine works i mean |
| 20:24.09 | Parthon | what have you got? |
| 20:24.23 | Parthon | fuck |
| 20:24.30 | Vailreth | have to go> |
| 20:24.35 | Parthon | oh wait, no I did add the weapon |
| 20:24.37 | Parthon | okies, ciao |
| 20:24.44 | Vailreth | ? |
| 20:24.49 | Vailreth | no that was a question |
| 20:24.52 | Parthon | haha |
| 20:24.59 | Parthon | I have a weapon which effect is "use ability" |
| 20:25.10 | Parthon | and the ability is an effect instant that does damage |
| 20:25.18 | Vailreth | thats my set up |
| 20:25.34 | Vailreth | but did you set the issue order properly? |
| 20:26.33 | Parthon | I dunno |
| 20:26.46 | Vailreth | target target value should be caster |
| 20:27.16 | Vailreth | effect plater and effect unit should be target |
| 20:27.20 | Vailreth | player* |
| 20:29.55 | Parthon | yup, they are |
| 20:30.00 | Parthon | I think it's teh weapon malfunctioning |
| 20:30.47 | Vailreth | the issue order ability index is 0 correct? |
| 20:31.11 | Parthon | yup |
| 20:31.11 | Vailreth | just trying to be thourough |
| 20:31.19 | Parthon | there's no weapon on the mine, even though it's added |
| 20:31.27 | Vailreth | ok maybe it is the weapon |
| 20:31.35 | Vailreth | well its there |
| 20:31.47 | Vailreth | it wont show untill you had an icon in the actor |
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| 20:31.58 | taintedwisp | Hi everyone |
| 20:32.01 | Parthon | aah okay |
| 20:32.02 | Vailreth | yo |
| 20:32.02 | Parthon | which actor? |
| 20:32.19 | Vailreth | the mine actor is where you add the weapon icon i believe |
| 20:33.17 | Vailreth | whats Up tainted? |
| 20:33.34 | Parthon | nups, it's not in there |
| 20:34.25 | taintedwisp | nm |
| 20:34.46 | taintedwisp | got my map back from Hobbidude, so now I am going to try to figure out how to fix the bug where my stumps appear but the trees dont disapear |
| 20:34.50 | ________________ | why won't my unit facethe direction he is attacking with his default weapon? |
| 20:34.54 | ________________ | i have the weapon arc to 0 |
| 20:35.02 | Parthon | I still hate this editor |
| 20:35.03 | taintedwisp | One actor creates, but the other doesnt always disappear |
| 20:35.19 | taintedwisp | I think its in the events |
| 20:35.24 | taintedwisp | but it didnt happen Pre-1.5 |
| 20:35.52 | Lajla | taintedwisp, elleau again |
| 20:36.02 | taintedwisp | t? who |
| 20:36.08 | taintedwisp | elleau? |
| 20:36.12 | taintedwisp | hey lajla |
| 20:36.18 | Vailreth | Parthon maybe double check the field you have your weapon in? |
| 20:36.31 | Lajla | elleau is like pseudofrench for 'hello' |
| 20:36.37 | taintedwisp | ah |
| 20:36.39 | ________________ | english |
| 20:36.45 | ________________ | not french |
| 20:36.50 | taintedwisp | I hate french lawl |
| 20:36.56 | Parthon | combat: weapons |
| 20:37.03 | ________________ | o.o |
| 20:37.09 | taintedwisp | i hate it because my mom used to scream at me in it... whe I was little |
| 20:37.15 | Vailreth | ok i just thought it could be the wrong weapon assigned |
| 20:37.18 | Lajla | taintedwisp, well, they are all homoesexuals and all that. |
| 20:37.25 | taintedwisp | yeah thats true |
| 20:37.26 | ________________ | ne 1 know why my unit won' |
| 20:37.26 | Vailreth | ive done it before so |
| 20:37.28 | ________________ | t |
| 20:37.30 | taintedwisp | they do act like gays... |
| 20:37.33 | ________________ | face the way its firing its weapon? |
| 20:37.55 | taintedwisp | I wish they wouldnt let the transgender compete in the olympics... |
| 20:38.20 | taintedwisp | But nooooo, we have to accept them ^ -_- ^ |
| 20:38.33 | Parthon | Vailreth: I know it will be something undocumented that I dont know about and have overlooked |
| 20:38.35 | taintedwisp | ^-_-^ looked too much like a cat |
| 20:38.51 | Vailreth | whats weird is i have mine working ... |
| 20:38.52 | Parthon | like I forgot to check the "fire weapon" checkbox on the third page of the costs panel |
| 20:38.54 | Lajla | taintedwisp, do they? |
| 20:39.04 | Lajla | I thought MtF transsexuals can't compete as women in the olympics |
| 20:39.09 | taintedwisp | Yeah they have a woman who had a penis added join... |
| 20:39.13 | taintedwisp | and compete... |
| 20:39.24 | Lajla | Under women or under men? |
| 20:39.25 | Lajla | And where? |
| 20:39.34 | Lajla | source I mean |
| 20:39.37 | taintedwisp | under women... but still I think |
| 20:39.41 | Parthon | Vailreth: would it be because the effect is an instant effect? |
| 20:39.50 | taintedwisp | Give me a sec |
| 20:39.53 | Parthon | I mean the effect for the ability |
| 20:39.56 | Lajla | THen I see no problem whatsoever. |
| 20:40.03 | Parthon | and the ability doesn't require a target |
| 20:40.10 | taintedwisp | Keelin Godsey |
| 20:40.14 | taintedwisp | thats the name of the athlete |
| 20:40.15 | Vailreth | thats should be fine |
| 20:40.58 | taintedwisp | It sickens me, today we cant look at a woman without wondering if she use to have a dick... |
| 20:41.05 | Parthon | yeah, this sucks, can't even get a simple weapon working |
| 20:41.10 | Parthon | the editor is overly complicated |
| 20:41.13 | taintedwisp | the Ms Universe pageant is allowing a fucking transgender man... |
| 20:41.26 | Vailreth | yeah itsa pain |
| 20:41.27 | taintedwisp | Its sick.... it really is.. |
| 20:42.14 | taintedwisp | I know I might just sound hateful, but I firmly believe that you should stick to your morals, yet the entire world seems to have lost theirs... |
| 20:42.16 | Parthon | can't just make something, you have to go through 1500 different panels to find all the right values |
| 20:42.17 | taintedwisp | well atleast the majority |
| 20:43.07 | Vailreth | the editor is a bit eaiser in my opinion in tabel view |
| 20:43.21 | taintedwisp | wait what? |
| 20:43.23 | ________________ | Didn't notice the weapon had a turret, that's why it wasn't turning to face the attack |
| 20:43.36 | taintedwisp | Oh same here |
| 20:43.46 | taintedwisp | I thought you were talking about that other view vail lawl |
| 20:44.01 | taintedwisp | I HATE DETAIL VEIW |
| 20:44.02 | taintedwisp | lol |
| 20:44.07 | Vailreth | yeah me too |
| 20:44.18 | Parthon | I'm in table view, I refuse to use anything else |
| 20:44.25 | Parthon | but then to edit a value, it brings up a panel |
| 20:44.26 | Vailreth | ah |
| 20:44.31 | Vailreth | yeah |
| 20:44.33 | taintedwisp | lol is it bad that just a few days ago I learned, that I could Shift click multiple options and they would all open in one window? |
| 20:45.13 | taintedwisp | Helps alot when you are doing multiple task on multiple units |
| 20:45.18 | Vailreth | not really considering this editor |
| 20:45.25 | ________________ | table view > all |
| 20:45.30 | taintedwisp | lol |
| 20:45.40 | taintedwisp | yeah, I love data editing, but its long work |
| 20:46.17 | Vailreth | parthon what arc does your weapon have? |
| 20:46.37 | Parthon | aaaaaaaargh |
| 20:46.42 | Parthon | fucking stupid game |
| 20:46.49 | Parthon | I got it working after I added the move command to the mine |
| 20:46.58 | Parthon | BECAUSE THAT TOTALLY MAKES SENSE |
| 20:47.03 | Vailreth | thats likely because the arc is zero |
| 20:47.24 | Parthon | the ark is 358.9 |
| 20:47.33 | Parthon | because the editor won't let me put in 360 |
| 20:48.17 | Vailreth | maybe thats the issue my arc IS zero |
| 20:48.20 | Parthon | at least it's working |
| 20:48.38 | Vailreth | well nice that its working |
| 20:48.39 | Parthon | if it's 0, it shouldn't work though |
| 20:49.12 | Parthon | yeah |
| 20:49.15 | Parthon | still glitchy though |
| 20:51.48 | Parthon | is there a way to start the weapon with a cooldown? |
| 20:53.08 | Vailreth | cooldown time start may work i dont know if it does for weapons or not |
| 20:53.16 | Vailreth | under cost cost |
| 20:53.41 | Parthon | aah cool |
| 20:53.42 | Parthon | I think it will |
| 20:53.51 | taintedwisp | Hey I just saw this comparison in triggers, and I swear it wasnt there before... |
| 20:53.58 | taintedwisp | It said Players Handle = |
| 20:54.17 | Vailreth | if you are in the Na region i can check out the map if you like maybe help streamline some things? |
| 20:54.33 | taintedwisp | All the greatest mappers are in NA |
| 20:54.37 | taintedwisp | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:55.22 | Parthon | Vailreth: me? |
| 20:55.26 | Vailreth | yes |
| 20:55.41 | Parthon | ah, still getting it working |
| 20:56.47 | taintedwisp | Someone do all my work for me, and when Arcade comes out sit in my lobby all day for me |
| 20:56.48 | taintedwisp | lawl |
| 20:56.52 | taintedwisp | :XD |
| 20:57.07 | taintedwisp | i sAY |
| 20:57.46 | Parthon | haha |
| 20:58.14 | taintedwisp | lol |
| 20:58.28 | taintedwisp | If this wasnt my hobby I would manipulate people to do all my work lawl |
| 20:58.36 | taintedwisp | probably |
| 20:58.40 | Parthon | hehe, now my mine is changing people |
| 20:58.48 | Parthon | I think aquire is too high |
| 20:59.38 | Vailreth | yes an arc of zero works just fine |
| 21:00.15 | Parthon | does your mine turn though? |
| 21:00.23 | Vailreth | nope |
| 21:00.50 | Vailreth | not that i can tell anyway as it has no mover or move ability |
| 21:01.13 | Parthon | aah okay |
| 21:01.44 | taintedwisp | Spongebob squarepants is on... |
| 21:01.45 | taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:02.11 | Parthon | yeah, with an arc of 0, my mines spin around |
| 21:03.11 | taintedwisp | Arc of 0 means that they cant attack at all I think |
| 21:03.40 | taintedwisp | Arc of 4 is what a zealot is set to by default I think |
| 21:03.48 | Parthon | nah, arc 0 works |
| 21:03.54 | Parthon | most turrets are arc 0 |
| 21:04.13 | Vailreth | with a zero arc it has to turn to face the target completely |
| 21:05.52 | taintedwisp | oh |
| 21:06.34 | Parthon | Vailreth: thanks for your help again :P |
| 21:06.43 | Vailreth | no problem |
| 21:07.16 | Parthon | I should have done it this way from the start |
| 21:07.25 | Parthon | weapon > autocast |
| 21:07.52 | Vailreth | yea sometimes we dont think of solutions till we have half ass ones |
| 21:08.32 | ________________ | what is the actor event for shadow? i 4got |
| 21:08.37 | Parthon | yeah, I didn't even consider weapons |
| 21:08.47 | ________________ | gah, quitting mapping for D III made me 4get everything >.< |
| 21:09.21 | Parthon | for a second, I forgot why I started this huge nonsense, then I remember, for the buff |
| 21:09.26 | ________________ | o, found it |
| 21:09.29 | ________________ | set cast shadow |
| 21:09.35 | Parthon | bonus: the damage for the mine shows up on the mine with the increase |
| 21:10.02 | Vailreth | heck we could get ride of the effect instant ability and replace the issue order with the damage and suicide set |
| 21:10.39 | Vailreth | the damage should inherit the increase from the weapon |
| 21:13.03 | Parthon | nah, I want people to be able to manually explode the mines |
| 21:13.08 | Parthon | why? I don't know, but it's there |
| 21:13.27 | Parthon | can you tie an actor to an effect? |
| 21:14.04 | Vailreth | yes |
| 21:16.03 | Parthon | cool |
| 21:23.33 | taintedwisp | how would i make a gather ability auto use? by defualt |
| 21:23.58 | Vailreth | what do you mean ? |
| 21:24.12 | Vailreth | like autocast? |
| 21:24.17 | taintedwisp | When the probe comes out of the nexus, he will auto search for a mineral field |
| 21:24.18 | taintedwisp | yeah |
| 21:24.23 | Parthon | it doesn't have an autocast like other abilities does it? |
| 21:24.28 | taintedwisp | no |
| 21:25.01 | Vailreth | a behavior that lasts lest then a second with an issue order effect to gather ? |
| 21:25.03 | Parthon | closest patch/ |
| 21:26.23 | Vailreth | i think triggers would be the way to go for this one |
| 21:27.07 | Parthon | yup |
| 21:27.15 | Vailreth | im thinking of my own custom race ... |
| 21:27.19 | Parthon | with a trigger it would be 2 lines |
| 21:27.35 | taintedwisp | needs to be either auto cast or make it so when a mineral is harvested out it wont break the worker rally point |
| 21:27.35 | Parthon | in code it would be a validator, 3 effects and a buff |
| 21:28.23 | taintedwisp | yeah since patch 1.5 my rally points destroy when the tree they are set on is harvested out |
| 21:29.12 | Vailreth | hm |
| 21:30.01 | Parthon | I'd probably do it on the rally thingo |
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| 21:30.44 | Vailreth | are the stumps a unit with an empty resource ? |
| 21:32.37 | taintedwisp | The stumps are just a unit with an actor, non slectable and no stats |
| 21:32.40 | taintedwisp | But they are disabled |
| 21:32.52 | taintedwisp | Because the swap 2 unit function is broken... |
| 21:32.59 | taintedwisp | either in events or the function itself |
| 21:33.14 | taintedwisp | so right now its just trees that leave nothing |
| 21:33.18 | Vailreth | what swap to unit? |
| 21:33.48 | taintedwisp | On the harvest minerals behavior there is a Swap to Unit section |
| 21:33.50 | taintedwisp | It used to work |
| 21:34.01 | Parthon | oh, it's busted? |
| 21:34.08 | taintedwisp | yeah |
| 21:34.13 | Parthon | yeah, the "unit to replace with when exhausted" field |
| 21:34.15 | taintedwisp | Well it works... |
| 21:34.22 | taintedwisp | But the tree actor doesnt leave.. |
| 21:34.24 | taintedwisp | sometimes.. |
| 21:34.27 | taintedwisp | its 50/50 |
| 21:34.35 | taintedwisp | so it could be the AbilMorph no longer works |
| 21:34.46 | taintedwisp | in events |
| 21:34.48 | taintedwisp | on the actor |
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| 21:35.45 | Parthon | possibly |
| 21:35.53 | Parthon | hmm, that's very strange |
| 21:36.02 | taintedwisp | The behavior is called Minerals(MineralField) |
| 21:36.09 | Parthon | I noticed the same thing in mineralz, there's all these unattached actors everywhere |
| 21:36.23 | taintedwisp | and the Swap to is called Behavior: Empty Unit |
| 21:36.25 | Parthon | and that uses a lot of morphing, I thought it was just the map |
| 21:36.57 | taintedwisp | might be |
| 21:37.16 | taintedwisp | So I really dont know. |
| 21:37.27 | taintedwisp | ;;ldf;ld;kskl;sf;sdfkfsdkfsd;fsdklsdfklfsdklsdfklsdfklfsdklfsdklfsfkklalkaklal' |
| 21:37.29 | taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:38.15 | taintedwisp | Yeah I really dont know |
| 21:40.32 | taintedwisp | HMMM, and its a HUGE problem to me |
| 21:40.36 | Lajla | taintedwisp, what morals? |
| 21:40.50 | taintedwisp | lemme think lajla |
| 21:40.55 | Lajla | And what morals have we 'lost', I never had a problem with transgender people to believe with, hell I had sex with some. |
| 21:41.10 | taintedwisp | I guess you could say the basic 1950s Morals, Because I dont believe in treating women like shit |
| 21:41.24 | taintedwisp | Thats gross... |
| 21:41.25 | taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:42.16 | Lajla | taintedwisp, so you say that I, as someone living in 2012's netherlands should have 1950's US morals? |
| 21:42.30 | Vailreth | i think you actor events are incorrect Tainted |
| 21:42.30 | Lajla | Why not 1940's German morals, herr derp. |
| 21:42.58 | taintedwisp | The basic ones yes, Or if you would prefer the Biblical morals. but women are often treated like shit lol |
| 21:43.33 | Lajla | Why should I? |
| 21:43.41 | taintedwisp | By that I mean, Queers are not accepted, Parents whoop their kids asses, and people turn off the freakin tv and actually have a family, poeple dont divorce for no good reason |
| 21:43.44 | Lajla | I mean, I don't live in 1950's US, I live in 2012's Netherlands. |
| 21:43.54 | Lajla | Again, why should I? |
| 21:44.04 | taintedwisp | The Phrase "Why should I" is the exact one that is detrimental to society as a whole |
| 21:44.14 | taintedwisp | Why should I follow the law, and not kill everyone? |
| 21:44.20 | taintedwisp | Why should I help anyone |
| 21:44.21 | Lajla | Well, you're not exactly making a strong case. |
| 21:44.41 | Lajla | I shoud do that because I have no interest in going to ail, or killing people for that matter. |
| 21:44.57 | taintedwisp | whats Ail? |
| 21:45.03 | taintedwisp | oh jail |
| 21:45.13 | Lajla | But no one is going to punish me for accepting queers, they wll in fact punish me for not accepting them in some cases |
| 21:45.30 | Lajla | No one says I should be friends with them, but if I run a store and don't allow homosexual clients then they can indeed file a complaint here. |
| 21:45.33 | taintedwisp | Thats the thing, It should be punished. severly for being gay... |
| 21:45.43 | taintedwisp | The bible suggest death by fire... |
| 21:46.02 | taintedwisp | why should I listen to the bible? |
| 21:46.17 | taintedwisp | Because, Without religion people wont have morals |
| 21:46.21 | taintedwisp | and we are back to Square 1 |
| 21:46.22 | taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:46.24 | Lajla | I got a compelling argument why you shouldn't, it's a made up fairy tale, it contradicts itself? |
| 21:46.26 | taintedwisp | what morals |
| 21:46.40 | Vailreth | Religion dosent equal morals |
| 21:46.43 | Lajla | Hey, bingo, maybe you realize that morals are pretty subjective. |
| 21:46.56 | Torhal|work | Wow, seriously? This is a fucking SC2 channel |
| 21:46.58 | Torhal|work | Take that shit elsewhere. |
| 21:47.00 | Lajla | I beg to differ, faith and morals are the same thing, nonsense people believe because they were raised to believe it. |
| 21:47.01 | taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:47.23 | taintedwisp | yeah... and idiots who trust everything they see are those that are controlled by the 1% |
| 21:47.30 | Lajla | Believing that killing is bad and believing in God is the same thing, neither can be proven scientifically and therefore neither are wrong nor right. |
| 21:47.46 | Xaragoth | this is basically what happens when people on the internet try to look intelligent |
| 21:47.47 | taintedwisp | manipulations works by controlling 50% of what you see and all that you hear |
| 21:47.49 | Torhal|work | Take the religious talk elsewhere. |
| 21:47.52 | Torhal|work | Fucking seriously. |
| 21:48.37 | taintedwisp | its ally about the mindset of the individual, if you believe killing is right, then it just proves that a loss of morals is the fall of society |
| 21:48.39 | Xaragoth | going by the discussion, both aren't old enough to even properly have a reliable opinion on the topics of morale, religion, family and all the other stuff they just talked about. |
| 21:48.52 | Lajla | taintedwisp, dogmatic much? |
| 21:49.27 | Lajla | Xaragoth, yeh, except that everyone with a philosophy degree, young or old wil tell you the same thing about ethics. |
| 21:49.46 | Lajla | In fact anyone with a working brain will realize it's purely conditioning, that doesn't make it right or wrong, indeed such a thing doesn't exist. |
| 21:49.47 | taintedwisp | Dunno, I only go by what I read in the bible, and what I see in the world around me. |
| 21:49.47 | Vailreth | any way i think i can help you taintedwisp with you actor events if you like because i have the behavior swap unit when depeted thing working fine |
| 21:50.08 | Lajla | taintedwisp, if you go by the bible you realize that forgiveness is what you ŕe after. |
| 21:50.11 | taintedwisp | it works for SOME vail, but alot it doesnt did you try it for multiple |
| 21:50.13 | Lajla | We're all sinners, Jesus forgives. |
| 21:50.34 | taintedwisp | Forgivness is fine, But you shouldnt sin just because you know you will be forgiven... |
| 21:50.56 | Lajla | IT's about you forgiving them, they are most likely not even Christian so it's hadly a help to me. |
| 21:51.03 | Xaragoth | read the old testament |
| 21:51.13 | taintedwisp | thats were morals come in to hold you from sinning, even though you know you will be forgiven, it holds you from sinning, for the most part anyways |
| 21:51.14 | Lajla | I never had a particular religion and I honestly can't care what sexual orientatoin people profess in their private lifes. |
| 21:51.15 | Xaragoth | come back and talk to me when you are done |
| 21:51.30 | Xaragoth | god is a vengeful scumbag, that is all on that topic :P |
| 21:51.33 | Lajla | Xaragoth, old testament says a lot that is contradicted by the new one and te new one addresses those contradictions |
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| 21:52.06 | taintedwisp | All I can say is this... I dont like gay people, I dont like Transgender people. And I am entirly sick of them being a drain on society, where all they do is bitch about rights, so they can be married by a church that doesnt like them in the first place |
| 21:52.11 | Lajla | tl;dr: dude with long hair came, said 'Yeh guys, dad's not going to punis you any more for all the evil you do, as long as you accept me into your lifes, he'll punish me for them instead.' |
| 21:52.17 | Lajla | Not saying it makes sense, but meh. |
| 21:52.19 | Sixen | i)I |
| 21:52.21 | Sixen | o_O |
| 21:52.23 | taintedwisp | :D lol |
| 21:52.25 | taintedwisp | hey sixen |
| 21:52.27 | Xaragoth | hello sixen |
| 21:52.29 | Lajla | taintedwisp, you bitch more here than they. |
| 21:52.30 | Xaragoth | how have you been? |
| 21:52.33 | taintedwisp | Probably |
| 21:52.36 | taintedwisp | I wouldnt doubt it. |
| 21:52.37 | Parthon | yeah, religion gives you great morals, like killing other people in the name of god |
| 21:53.00 | Sixen | not bad, just busy haha |
| 21:53.14 | Vailreth | it seems to be working just fine |
| 21:53.21 | Xaragoth | heh. I managed to fry my PC. |
| 21:53.24 | Xaragoth | mainboard died |
| 21:53.37 | Xaragoth | that's another 1000 spend for hardware this month *sigh* |
| 21:53.39 | Sixen | ouch :( |
| 21:53.50 | taintedwisp | its not just homosexuals I dont like, its a LOT of things, I cant stand people being okay with girls getting pregnant at 16, I cant stand parents being horrified of whooping their kids |
| 21:53.53 | taintedwisp | its alot of things |
| 21:53.59 | taintedwisp | and gays are towards the middle of the list |
| 21:54.03 | taintedwisp | but still lol |
| 21:54.09 | Sixen | what's that gotta do with making maps |
| 21:54.15 | Sixen | -_^ |
| 21:54.30 | Parthon | taintedwisp: do you have a problem with gays that keep it to themselves and live like respectable members of society in all other ways? |
| 21:54.42 | taintedwisp | parthon, Killing other people in the name of god, was due to the corruption of the catholic church misinterpreting the bible for their own gain I in no way support them |
| 21:54.45 | Xaragoth | did you know gay includes lesbians? |
| 21:54.48 | Xaragoth | nobody hates lesbians |
| 21:54.49 | Xaragoth | NOBODY |
| 21:54.57 | Lajla | taintedwisp, I can't care what people do in their own time that doesn't affect me or others. |
| 21:55.13 | Lajla | If 16 year old girls want a baby, that's her choice, in biblical times this was quite normal anyway. |
| 21:55.17 | Xaragoth | Sixen: Don't you wonder sometimes why we still bother with this IRC channel? Most of the good folks aren't here anymore :P |
| 21:55.21 | taintedwisp | I hate lesbians... because they are the ones wispering into other womens ears to betray their husbands... seen that one 3 times already breaking up good marriages |
| 21:55.28 | Parthon | taintedwisp: I'm talking about the killings god condoned directly |
| 21:55.32 | Lajla | lol |
| 21:55.35 | Xaragoth | also, gimme internal forum access, I want to talk to normal people on mapster again! |
| 21:55.35 | Parthon | according to the bible of course |
| 21:55.38 | Lajla | taintedwisp, do you hate me? |
| 21:55.42 | taintedwisp | In biblical times the life expectancy was 35... its 79 now... |
| 21:55.52 | Sixen | It'll liven up with HotS imo |
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| 21:55.54 | taintedwisp | Possibly, I dont know you enough to hate you |
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| 21:56.01 | Sixen | bah I did it again |
| 21:56.02 | Deaod | so basically, taintedwisp hates anyone he cant identify enough with. |
| 21:56.05 | taintedwisp | All that I know you on is that you screwed a transgender |
| 21:56.25 | taintedwisp | Not even that, I cant identify with all the hoodrats in the ghetto, but I get along with them fine |
| 21:56.28 | Xaragoth | Sixen: that's what you said about 1.5! |
| 21:56.33 | Lajla | taintedwisp, I'm queer, I lost my virginity around 14 years old, I've had sexual relationships with people of either gender and in between, your virdict your honour? |
| 21:56.34 | Deaod | do you hate them? |
| 21:56.36 | Torhal|work | All I know is that I really hate forced religious discussions. I don't shove my beliefs down others' throats |
| 21:56.42 | Torhal|work | And this is a StarCraft 2 channel. |
| 21:56.45 | Torhal|work | Not God Network |
| 21:56.45 | Parthon | I have no idea how lesbians = divorce .. that's just a giant leap right there |
| 21:56.48 | Sixen | lol |
| 21:56.51 | Sixen | 1.5 isn't out yhet |
| 21:57.00 | Xaragoth | EXACTLY! |
| 21:57.07 | Sixen | =o |
| 21:57.14 | Xaragoth | you also never got me that pony you promised me! |
| 21:57.17 | Xaragoth | :P |
| 21:57.22 | taintedwisp | well, they I would rather not Associate myself with you... to be honest, thats my morals, I try not to physically bother others and I just ignore them |
| 21:57.49 | taintedwisp | Hate? no, Dislike strongly? depending on how they act |
| 21:58.13 | Parthon | it's just so ancient though, it's along the lines of segregation, women having no rights and being property, owning other people as slaves |
| 21:58.13 | Xaragoth | I guess HotS will be the last straw for some |
| 21:58.21 | Lajla | I'm particularly mild mannered and emotionally sterile, can't remember te last time I got angry at anything. |
| 21:58.21 | Deaod | let me just say that i hate your morals. |
| 21:58.23 | taintedwisp | no the only kind of Homosexuals I "Hate" would be those who try to act like the other gender... and then talk shit about that gender... For example a Butch lesbian talking shit about men.. |
| 21:58.28 | Deaod | i cant stand them. |
| 21:58.31 | Deaod | at all. |
| 21:58.37 | Xaragoth | in general for blizzard and for mappers in terms of sc2 |
| 21:58.42 | Lajla | I'm pretty sure they don't try to act the other gender. |
| 21:58.43 | taintedwisp | that shit pisses me off, she wants to act like a man and then talk crap about them... |
| 21:58.47 | Torhal|work | You do know that there's a _reason_ for having different channels, right? |
| 21:58.54 | Lajla | I'm pretty sure she doesn't want to be a man. |
| 21:59.03 | taintedwisp | im pretty sure they do... because I live on the hill with one... and I hate her... stupid bitch |
| 21:59.05 | Parthon | but butch lesbians look so much like men |
| 21:59.09 | Sixen | yeah, I think this conversation should stop now |
| 21:59.11 | taintedwisp | my stepmoms aunt... |
| 21:59.11 | Xaragoth | i'm pretty sure you are arguing on the internet |
| 21:59.13 | Sixen | or take it somewhere else |
| 21:59.14 | Xaragoth | that makes ALL of you idiots |
| 21:59.18 | Vailreth | oh bother |
| 21:59.26 | Sixen | it's great that there's conversation going on, but I don't thin kthat belongs here |
| 21:59.29 | taintedwisp | ha, okay sixen |
| 21:59.44 | Sixen | so... how bout them cowboys. |
| 21:59.44 | taintedwisp | NOW back to the original topic... |
| 21:59.54 | taintedwisp | Vailreth.. what did you say about my trees not disapearing |
| 22:00.05 | Parthon | but I like the idea that most homophobes are actually gay :P |
| 22:00.13 | Vailreth | i still think your actor events maybe incorrect |
| 22:00.13 | taintedwisp | Dian sanders left years ago, cowboys are terrible lawl |
| 22:00.17 | Sixen | lol |
| 22:00.48 | Vailreth | yeah the cowboys arent as good as they used to be |
| 22:01.07 | taintedwisp | dont worrie panthers are terrible too |
| 22:01.10 | taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:01.23 | taintedwisp | Football in general bores me. |
| 22:01.38 | taintedwisp | a bunch of under intelligent guys touching each other... |
| 22:01.39 | Vailreth | i could say the same about most sports |
| 22:01.41 | taintedwisp | Yeah |
| 22:01.47 | taintedwisp | Baseball is the worst |
| 22:02.02 | taintedwisp | 1 pitch 1 swing |
| 22:02.04 | taintedwisp | 50 replays |
| 22:02.05 | Sixen | football is awesome o_O |
| 22:02.10 | Vailreth | meh |
| 22:02.39 | Vailreth | anyway if you wouldnt mind letting me look at your map i could diagnose the actor issue |
| 22:02.46 | Parthon | of course, we wouldn't even have irc if it were for those religious types |
| 22:02.50 | Deaod | definitely. especially the eurocup happening right now is awesome. |
| 22:02.54 | taintedwisp | Sure vail that would be great |
| 22:03.08 | Parthon | flees! |
| 22:03.47 | taintedwisp | Dont worry too much, I believe but im not a devout or anything... I just follow the basics |
| 22:03.55 | taintedwisp | dont steal, dont kill, etc |
| 22:04.05 | Deaod | actually ... now that i think about it ... we might be talking about different sports. |
| 22:04.11 | Vailreth | i too manily follow the smart points.. |
| 22:04.21 | Vailreth | yeah yeahthink.. |
| 22:04.32 | taintedwisp | HAHAH |
| 22:04.35 | Vailreth | yeah youthink* |
| 22:04.35 | Deaod | stop spouting nonsense please. |
| 22:04.39 | taintedwisp | he was talking about US football |
| 22:04.40 | taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:04.44 | taintedwisp | not Soccer |
| 22:04.47 | Sixen | soccer is boring |
| 22:04.49 | taintedwisp | or Futboll |
| 22:04.50 | Sixen | us football is good |
| 22:04.54 | Deaod | you people have no taste.- |
| 22:04.54 | taintedwisp | I think is what it is spelled |
| 22:05.09 | Vailreth | its a nerds world |
| 22:05.17 | taintedwisp | SC2 IS THE BEST SPORT!!! |
| 22:05.19 | taintedwisp | haha |
| 22:05.21 | Vailreth | sports fans = sports nerds ... |
| 22:05.37 | Xaragoth | on the notion of sports |
| 22:05.42 | Xaragoth | stephano was arrested |
| 22:05.42 | Xaragoth | :P |
| 22:05.45 | taintedwisp | though when they dont scout I sometimes wonder... what would happen if they get 6 pooled |
| 22:05.45 | taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:06.06 | Vailreth | nod. |
| 22:06.26 | Deaod | again though, if you just follow the basics of christianity, youre following your inner moral values. you dont need that huge book that encourages rape, slavery and human sacrifice. |
| 22:06.41 | Deaod | youre being a decent human being. |
| 22:06.53 | Vailreth | so when looking over your map do you want me to give any other opinions or just diagnose the tree actor issue? |
| 22:06.57 | Parthon | no more religion! :P |
| 22:08.17 | taintedwisp | do whatever you want, and I could always use more opinions |
| 22:08.24 | Vailreth | ok |
| 22:08.31 | taintedwisp | I AM CONVERTING TO COPYISM!!!! |
| 22:08.35 | taintedwisp | KOPIsM |
| 22:08.39 | taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:08.40 | Parthon | that's enough editing today |
| 22:08.46 | Parthon | tomowwow, waves |
| 22:08.49 | Vailreth | later |
| 22:08.54 | taintedwisp | and god said, Copy unto thee as thou has coppied unto |
| 22:09.08 | taintedwisp | and thats why file sharing is right and copyrighting is bad!! |
| 22:09.09 | taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:09.10 | Parthon | I'm going to play some qube |
| 22:09.12 | taintedwisp | still cracks me up |
| 22:09.18 | Deaod | Kopimism |
| 22:09.26 | taintedwisp | yeah |
| 22:09.45 | taintedwisp | stuff cracks me up |
| 22:09.50 | Deaod | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Kopimizm.svg/220px-Kopimizm.svg.png |
| 22:09.51 | taintedwisp | lol the MPAA is the Devil |
| 22:10.00 | taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:10.11 | taintedwisp | http://www.qfpost.com/file/d?g=AtbYFaqqu |
| 22:10.15 | taintedwisp | Thats the map vail |
| 22:11.04 | taintedwisp | Yo Sixen you there? I was wondering hows the sites traffic been doing lately, I know that about 7 or 8 months ago someone told me it was doing terribly |
| 22:11.59 | Parthon | mapster site? |
| 22:11.59 | Xaragoth | I'm pretty sure that is wrong |
| 22:13.05 | taintedwisp | Yeah |
| 22:13.22 | taintedwisp | It could be totally wrong |
| 22:13.26 | Sixen | It's not doing "terrible" but it was a lot better during beta... and release of the game. |
| 22:13.33 | taintedwisp | Nice |
| 22:14.07 | taintedwisp | Now to listen to Mad World |
| 22:14.15 | taintedwisp | lol Poor donnie darko... |
| 22:14.18 | Deaod | btw, do you know anything about how HotS is going to be released? |
| 22:14.26 | Sixen | what do you mean how? |
| 22:14.33 | Deaod | ie, is it an expansion |
| 22:14.34 | taintedwisp | you mean when? |
| 22:14.44 | taintedwisp | yes its an expansion |
| 22:14.48 | Deaod | or can it be bought as a standalone |
| 22:14.56 | Deaod | ie. without WoL |
| 22:14.58 | Sixen | it's an expansion |
| 22:15.00 | Sixen | it'll require wol |
| 22:15.06 | Deaod | hm |
| 22:15.14 | taintedwisp | has anything about the cost been stated? |
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| 22:15.25 | taintedwisp | Hopeing it will be around 30-40$ |
| 22:15.27 | Sixen | all they've said is that it'll be "Expansion pricing" |
| 22:15.30 | Sixen | so i'm thinking 40 |
| 22:15.30 | Deaod | i remember them stating as much a long time ago |
| 22:15.56 | taintedwisp | hmmm well hope so, also hope the beta starts soon |
| 22:16.01 | taintedwisp | and that arcade finishes soon |
| 22:16.02 | Deaod | also, have they said anything about splitting battle.net? |
| 22:16.31 | Deaod | ie. will HotS be a simple patch to melee play |
| 22:16.48 | taintedwisp | It will be split |
| 22:16.56 | taintedwisp | I can confirm this by clues given |
| 22:17.11 | taintedwisp | They said that HoTS units will be banned from being publish in WoL maps |
| 22:17.18 | taintedwisp | So that means that it will be split |
| 22:17.43 | Deaod | well, since theyve organized the game in mods |
| 22:17.45 | Xaragoth | Sixen: Ahahhahahahahahaa. |
| 22:17.57 | Xaragoth | THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS BELOW 60$ GAMES FOR ACTIVISION |
| 22:18.02 | Xaragoth | even worse if you are in europe |
| 22:18.04 | Xaragoth | it's 60 here |
| 22:18.15 | taintedwisp | in aus D3 was 80$ lawl |
| 22:18.49 | Xaragoth | Deaod: probably a simple patch, they might give the melee units this time around, maybe editor features, but no campaign |
| 22:19.23 | Deaod | what i thought was going to happen is that HotS campaign will be a separate mod |
| 22:19.41 | Deaod | while melee would simply be patched with the new units |
| 22:19.45 | taintedwisp | the Whole HoTS will prob be a different launcher |
| 22:19.51 | taintedwisp | If they follow traditional |
| 22:20.03 | Deaod | unlikely |
| 22:20.16 | Sixen | aus d3 was 80 because of aussie taxes, not blizzard's fault |
| 22:20.19 | Xaragoth | as long as they don't go all wc3 on it |
| 22:20.29 | Sixen | hos will have a new launcher, yes, they converted it to the new launcher system |
| 22:20.35 | taintedwisp | yeah I know, But I love laughing at Aussies, those guys are awesome when they get mad lol |
| 22:20.37 | Xaragoth | and you can not play most things with your friends that have tft if you only have roc |
| 22:20.52 | Deaod | xara, now that the euro is doing worse, the comparison is slightly better |
| 22:21.17 | Xaragoth | Deaod: as if the dollar had won any strength :P |
| 22:21.25 | Deaod | not saying that |
| 22:21.27 | Xaragoth | if anything the 60 pricing is more ridiculous than ever |
| 22:21.32 | Deaod | just saying that the euro is doing worse |
| 22:21.38 | Xaragoth | europe has always been paying extra in gaming |
| 22:22.03 | Xaragoth | australia has been the worst place though |
| 22:22.06 | Xaragoth | holy shit, their prices |
| 22:22.07 | taintedwisp | LOL europe paid more on the Witcher 2, and it was made in sweeden |
| 22:22.10 | taintedwisp | funny |
| 22:22.15 | Tomura | it's cheaper to import the game in europe |
| 22:22.24 | Tomura | than buying it in some store |
| 22:22.31 | Deaod | european prices usually include VAT |
| 22:22.41 | Deaod | while US prices dont |
| 22:22.59 | Xaragoth | pretty much |
| 22:23.24 | Xaragoth | not to mention germany and our horrible problems with steam & cut games in general |
| 22:23.29 | Xaragoth | at least they left dead space alone |
| 22:23.36 | taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:23.41 | Xaragoth | but because of that you can't even buy dead space 2 on steam as a adult |
| 22:23.44 | Xaragoth | it's a fucking joke |
| 22:23.46 | taintedwisp | I hate america... but sometimes I am glad.... |
| 22:23.47 | Deaod | soldier of fortune |
| 22:23.50 | Xaragoth | had to steam-gift it from a US friend |
| 22:23.56 | Deaod | let me just mention that one |
| 22:24.00 | taintedwisp | i think i hate all countries... imma move to antartica.... |
| 22:24.01 | taintedwisp | lawl |
| 22:24.15 | Parthon | taintedwisp: how many angry aussies do you know? :o |
| 22:24.21 | taintedwisp | 7 |
| 22:24.22 | taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:24.57 | taintedwisp | Aussies are like Southerners in america... |
| 22:25.03 | taintedwisp | well the ones i know |
| 22:25.06 | taintedwisp | they act redneckish |
| 22:25.18 | Vailreth | ok i see the issue instead of using morph you need to kill the actor with Behavior Minerals Depeleated... and spaw the stump act with the same actor event |
| 22:26.01 | taintedwisp | im not saying there are not nice people, but they have quick tempers at times |
| 22:26.20 | taintedwisp | yeah... i have no idea how to do that |
| 22:26.42 | Vailreth | if you like i can make some edits for you to look at |
| 22:26.56 | taintedwisp | that would be great |
| 22:27.40 | taintedwisp | wait would this way still leave the stump as a unit, or would it just be an empty actor |
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| 22:27.56 | DarkOrbis | hey |
| 22:28.02 | Vailreth | the stump would be the same |
| 22:29.45 | DarkOrbis | <---still no idea how I'm gonna build my aggro system :/ |
| 22:30.08 | Xaragoth | DarkOrbis: math? |
| 22:30.29 | DarkOrbis | like tracking sggro lists and stuff |
| 22:31.16 | Xaragoth | just make a combination of damage dealt, distance to target, maybe some modifiers, save it for each player and add a constant degeneration to the variables? |
| 22:31.25 | Xaragoth | that's pretty much how it works |
| 22:31.50 | DarkOrbis | aggro doesn't ever degenerate |
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| 22:31.59 | Taintedwisp_ | Back, Windstream Internet sucks |
| 22:32.52 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:33.04 | Taintedwisp | wow.. |
| 22:33.11 | Taintedwisp | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:35.23 | Taintedwisp | Windstream sucks sooo bad |
| 22:35.43 | Parthon | on our end it said you had changed nicks |
| 22:36.32 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:36.44 | Taintedwisp | on my end it wouldnt allow me to change my nick and no one was talking... |
| 22:37.00 | Parthon | yeah, that's sucky |
| 22:37.03 | Taintedwisp | Plus I couldnt Who Is myself |
| 22:37.41 | Parthon | my internet is being sucky too |
| 22:39.01 | Taintedwisp | brb |
| 22:39.06 | Taintedwisp | 5 minutes |
| 22:57.08 | Taintedwisp | back |
| 22:57.17 | Taintedwisp | had to hang up a wooden sword for a 10 year old... |
| 22:57.18 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:58.51 | Taintedwisp | BAH i hate Canker-sores ... |
| 22:59.01 | Taintedwisp | Got 2 of them, and they are bugging the shit outta me |
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| 23:04.44 | arturusfury | hey |
| 23:05.10 | Taintedwisp | Hey |
| 23:06.53 | Vailreth | hmm i cant say yet but something is preventing the actor from being destroyed or is creating it again as soon as it is |
| 23:14.14 | Dustin | DarkOrbis, you were the one wanting the unit indexing library right? |
| 23:14.37 | DarkOrbis | yea why? |
| 23:16.39 | Dustin | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/dustins-unit-indexing-library/ |
| 23:16.53 | Dustin | My submission got accepted |
| 23:17.14 | Dustin | If you still needed it |
| 23:17.22 | DarkOrbis | I'll check it out |
| 23:27.01 | ________________ | o cool, i had to lay something out like this manually a few minths ago |
| 23:27.05 | ________________ | months* |
| 23:32.34 | Vailreth | ah hah i have news Tainted something is creating a doodad or other tree when you place a normal one |
| 23:32.57 | Vailreth | i mean a unit one |
| 23:43.01 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:43.13 | Taintedwisp | damn... |
| 23:43.17 | Vailreth | i think i was wrong there |
| 23:43.18 | Taintedwisp | so that could be why I get lag |
| 23:43.25 | Taintedwisp | well i dont get lag |
| 23:43.29 | Taintedwisp | High end computers get lag |
| 23:43.30 | Taintedwisp | .. |
| 23:44.42 | ________________ | argh... how can i change the launch site of my missile? |
| 23:44.47 | ________________ | ive tried things for the past hour |
| 23:44.49 | ________________ | no changes |
| 23:49.52 | Vailreth | no i think im write somehow two tree actors are getting created when you place one maybe more then 1 extra |
| 23:50.24 | Taintedwisp | so its not that the trees events arent working, its that too many are being created. |
| 23:50.31 | Vailreth | yes |
| 23:50.38 | Vailreth | well and that they arent correct |
| 23:50.59 | Vailreth | i had to redo the events for the normal tree but got it working |
| 23:51.10 | Taintedwisp | I had a similar problem on Evolution frenzy, I forget how it was fixed |
| 23:51.16 | Taintedwisp | I think Neonsz fixed it lol |
| 23:59.53 | Vailreth | ok i have it fixed...it was creating like six tree actors for every unit |
