| 00:00.38 | Taintedwisp | back, Connection Auto Reset lol |
| 00:00.56 | Vailreth | welcome back |
| 00:04.44 | Taintedwisp | Miami proves it, a white man cant even walk down the street without a some black dude eating his face... |
| 00:04.54 | Taintedwisp | Damn never thought that day would come |
| 00:04.58 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 00:05.11 | Mexa | Damn soccer shenanigans outside |
| 00:05.19 | Vailreth | hm |
| 00:05.38 | Mexa | Do I really need to hear them sing ITALIANO DI TERRA loudly and other mumbojumbo talking? |
| 00:06.03 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 00:06.26 | Mexa | 2AM is too late for such nonsense. |
| 00:06.42 | Mexa | And I don't care that they watched UEFA... I demand silence! |
| 00:07.38 | Vailreth | i will be so glad for HotS |
| 00:07.56 | Vailreth | no more staring at Raynors ugly mug when i boot up the game |
| 00:10.33 | Taintedwisp | Would it have killed them to put 4 images and have them cycle... |
| 00:10.37 | Taintedwisp | That single image gets old |
| 00:10.55 | Vailreth | very old |
| 00:10.57 | Taintedwisp | Ya know though? |
| 00:11.08 | Taintedwisp | Seriously 2 other images added into it would have been fine |
| 00:11.13 | Vailreth | yeah |
| 00:11.15 | Taintedwisp | Or change it every major patch atleast |
| 00:11.33 | Vailreth | yeah |
| 00:11.44 | Taintedwisp | I click raynor at night, and it annoys me, not because I acidentally launched the game, but because im sick of seeing him |
| 00:11.55 | Taintedwisp | and his Portrait is fugly his eyes look crossed |
| 00:12.05 | Taintedwisp | i miss bald raynor |
| 00:12.06 | Taintedwisp | ... |
| 00:12.07 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 00:12.11 | Vailreth | heh |
| 00:12.41 | Vailreth | i can not wait for HotS |
| 00:12.50 | Vailreth | well i can but its hard |
| 00:13.14 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 00:13.21 | Taintedwisp | The beta will start next week or the week after |
| 00:13.23 | Taintedwisp | So no worries |
| 00:13.44 | Taintedwisp | i'm about to start a challenge to Sc2mapster |
| 00:13.49 | Taintedwisp | Wonder if anyone will be able to do it |
| 00:14.06 | Vailreth | whats the challange? |
| 00:17.04 | Taintedwisp | To make a hero using the new hero tabs |
| 00:17.29 | Taintedwisp | I dont think anyone has figured it out yet |
| 00:17.48 | Taintedwisp | All I know is that the reference fields are used by the Player Type tab |
| 00:17.58 | Vailreth | i belive those are for trigger use |
| 00:18.38 | Taintedwisp | Maybe |
| 00:18.41 | Taintedwisp | No clue. |
| 00:21.06 | Taintedwisp | Figure it could be a nice test though |
| 00:21.16 | Taintedwisp | See if anyone does it |
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| 00:42.30 | Vailreth | if only there were some where to make behaviors permeanent |
| 00:43.12 | Vailreth | buffs i mean |
| 00:43.27 | Ahli | duration = 0 |
| 00:43.36 | Dustin | isnt there a flag to mark it permamenant? |
| 00:43.53 | Vailreth | yeah but even then on revive of the unit its still gone |
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| 00:45.39 | MaishidonPatch | Hey, is anyone here? |
| 00:45.46 | Vailreth | there are a few |
| 00:45.52 | MaishidonPatch | cool |
| 00:47.41 | MaishidonPatch | Does anyone here either know how, or where I should go to find out how to make a unit switch teams based on proximity? |
| 00:47.48 | MaishidonPatch | Like a xel-naga tower |
| 00:48.11 | MaishidonPatch | except full control is of the building is given instead of just vision |
| 00:48.21 | Vailreth | thats the interact ability |
| 00:48.55 | Vailreth | if you are making a neutral shop you will have to tick on share control in the shop unit flags |
| 00:49.40 | Ahli | I wonder if you can build units there now... in 1.4.3 you couldn't spend the money because it didn't want your money. |
| 00:50.01 | MaishidonPatch | I was going for a caster building |
| 00:50.09 | MaishidonPatch | thanks for the direction |
| 00:50.21 | Vailreth | what do you Mean Ahli? |
| 00:51.20 | Ahli | like building a probe in a nexus. the button tried to spend the money of the real owner |
| 00:51.27 | Ahli | and that player had no money |
| 00:51.41 | Vailreth | thats what the Share Control flag is for |
| 00:51.49 | Vailreth | its been in the editor since beta |
| 00:52.32 | Vailreth | i keeping telling people about it but they keep insisting on husge trigger based workarounds and what not |
| 00:52.48 | Ahli | yes, but it didn't want your money |
| 00:53.05 | Vailreth | the Share Controll flag FIxes that |
| 00:53.16 | Vailreth | on the unit |
| 00:53.23 | Vailreth | not the interact ability |
| 00:53.36 | Ahli | on the nexus? |
| 00:53.52 | Ahli | where is that flag? do I need to give it a behavior or where can I find that? |
| 00:54.31 | MaishidonPatch | Under just the units name |
| 00:54.31 | Vailreth | in the unit under Unti:flags |
| 00:55.02 | MaishidonPatch | Err |
| 00:55.10 | MaishidonPatch | I cant seem to find the interact ability :/ |
| 00:55.44 | MaishidonPatch | Would that just be under Unit > abilities> then the drop down? |
| 00:56.11 | Vailreth | no |
| 00:56.37 | Vailreth | not sure what your editor is set to look like so im not the best to help here. |
| 00:56.55 | MaishidonPatch | K |
| 00:56.59 | MaishidonPatch | I'll go google it |
| 00:57.05 | Ahli | good to know :D |
| 01:00.58 | Vailreth | well it used to work |
| 01:02.56 | Vailreth | it only works for neutral structures |
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| 01:10.24 | Ahli | my structures weren't neutral :S |
| 01:10.54 | Vailreth | oh sorry. |
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| 02:52.26 | Dustin | I like when people ask questions and I randomly see them and they are what I was looking for the day before, has happend alot lol |
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| 08:42.17 | Repo | New experimental asset: Heart of the swarm Icon Pack - http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/heart-swarm-icon-pack/ |
| 08:42.27 | Repo | New asset: Heart of the swarm Icon Pack - http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/heart-swarm-icon-pack/ |
| 08:42.27 | Repo | New map: The war of the World - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/war-world/ |
| 08:46.42 | Repo | New announcement: In The Spotlight with IronManSC - http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/in-the-spotlight-with-iron-man-sc/ |
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| 11:08.29 | Hookah604 | how can I do a timer which records millisecs too? |
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| 14:18.40 | Ashamed | http://fokyeah.net/Noooo-pikachu_--id162.html |
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| 15:37.16 | Vail|gone | hello |
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| 15:56.48 | Eimtr | hey can any1 tell me, I imported a terrain from another map that had a -1 cliff level with the brush,in the new map I increased Height Field to 1 to fix all that was in the air but |
| 15:58.00 | Eimtr | some units remain below others - all the terrain is supposedly same level as it was all lowered -1 with a brush |
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| 16:05.07 | Eimtr | some parts of the map units get lower than on others and all terrain is supposedly the same level, it's a space background and some units fall under the ground on some palces |
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| 16:12.10 | Parthon | you might need to manually raise the units |
| 16:12.17 | Parthon | do they stay under the ground when you play the map? |
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| 17:36.23 | Eimtr | Pathron wht if the units I raise |
| 17:36.33 | Eimtr | on some places appear in the air as a result of raising?> |
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| 18:06.24 | Taintedwisp | Hey everyone |
| 18:06.32 | Taintedwisp | How is everyone on this .... cloudy day |
| 18:06.37 | Taintedwisp | damn had to take a look lol |
| 18:06.52 | Deaod | sleepy. |
| 18:07.12 | Taintedwisp | I had a nice 5 hours of sleep, and woke up at noon |
| 18:07.13 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 18:07.15 | Mexa | sunny |
| 18:07.22 | Mexa | And I have a headache |
| 18:07.33 | Deaod | -> less drinking |
| 18:07.36 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 18:07.42 | Mexa | I don't drink |
| 18:07.47 | Deaod | oops :D |
| 18:07.51 | Taintedwisp | Is it bad that I stayed up all night watching Red Bull finals, and Yu Gi oh? |
| 18:07.54 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 18:07.55 | Mexa | Or rather, that would be very rare:p |
| 18:08.07 | Taintedwisp | I dont drink.... often |
| 18:08.12 | Mexa | Red bull finals? |
| 18:08.12 | Taintedwisp | But when I do... I get smashed |
| 18:08.22 | Taintedwisp | Sc2 Bomber Vs MC |
| 18:08.23 | Mexa | Yu-Gi? |
| 18:08.25 | Mexa | That was a while |
| 18:08.27 | Mexa | lol |
| 18:08.29 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 18:08.38 | Deaod | yeah, that was a while ago |
| 18:08.51 | Taintedwisp | Im not what you would call current |
| 18:08.57 | Taintedwisp | llol |
| 18:08.59 | Deaod | wait till you finish MLG |
| 18:09.06 | Taintedwisp | I dont go in order |
| 18:09.09 | Deaod | awww |
| 18:09.18 | Taintedwisp | I find one match up that seems interesting and watch all the rounds |
| 18:09.28 | Mexa | Wait til you finish Dreamhack :D |
| 18:09.54 | Mexa | http://open.dreamhack.se/news/2012/06/04/maps-and-schedule-for-summer.html |
| 18:09.55 | Taintedwisp | I was going to start start watching Day 9 from Episode 1... but hes sooo damn gay!!! |
| 18:10.00 | Taintedwisp | not even trying to insult him] |
| 18:10.13 | Taintedwisp | but he sounds like he likes men... |
| 18:10.19 | Deaod | shit, there goes my weekend |
| 18:10.21 | Taintedwisp | Its his voice |
| 18:10.26 | Deaod | now i have to watch dreamhack |
| 18:10.28 | Mexa | Deaod, :D |
| 18:10.36 | Mexa | Tintedwisp, so what?:p |
| 18:10.46 | Mexa | I don't agreed though |
| 18:10.49 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 18:11.01 | Taintedwisp | I dont like gay people.... nor do I try to hide it at the least bit |
| 18:11.05 | Mexa | I mean, I think e sounds like any other guy. |
| 18:11.21 | Deaod | yes, because sexuality is all that matters. |
| 18:11.24 | Taintedwisp | I dont think hes gay... he just has a gay voice |
| 18:11.35 | Taintedwisp | No because men that act like women annoy me |
| 18:11.44 | Taintedwisp | Strait men that act like women annoy me too |
| 18:11.51 | Deaod | and you can judge people based on their sexuality accurately. |
| 18:12.00 | Taintedwisp | TO the point where I would like to Physically harm them if they are within 10 ft of me |
| 18:12.01 | Mexa | Haha, did you see that episodes of Day9 playing Amnesia? |
| 18:12.06 | Mexa | That was awesome |
| 18:12.20 | Deaod | i dont follow Day9. |
| 18:12.25 | Mexa | Neither do I |
| 18:12.27 | Taintedwisp | Nor do I obvoiusly |
| 18:12.29 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 18:12.34 | Deaod | and no i havent seen that episode |
| 18:12.57 | Hookah604 | so gays and gay haters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VKWLC87Uzw |
| 18:12.58 | Taintedwisp | I'm not what you would call Politically correct, then again the general public are a bunch of immoral dumbasses, For the most part |
| 18:13.01 | Mexa | He was quite frighten, if I remember it right :3 |
| 18:13.27 | Taintedwisp | He does cast good tournys though, but his show just sucks I think |
| 18:14.30 | Mexa | Oh I wouldn't know |
| 18:14.34 | Taintedwisp | GUNSHOT TO THE HEAD OF TREPIDATION!!!!!!!! |
| 18:14.55 | Taintedwisp | love this song. |
| 18:15.29 | Taintedwisp | Damn blizzard and their server side games... |
| 18:15.38 | Taintedwisp | now they cant allow copyright material... |
| 18:16.06 | Taintedwisp | Heres a classic song |
| 18:16.09 | Taintedwisp | Bad to the Bone |
| 18:16.16 | Taintedwisp | George Thurgood |
| 18:16.22 | Taintedwisp | 1980s? |
| 18:16.43 | Taintedwisp | hmmmm |
| 18:16.54 | Taintedwisp | I know what to do... but for some reason dont feel like doing it.... again |
| 18:16.56 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 18:17.16 | Mexa | Hookah604, wait... sex with donkeys O:=? |
| 18:17.57 | Mexa | [20:15] <Taintedwisp> now they cant allow copyright material... -Now? The never supported nor allowed copyrighted material. |
| 18:18.37 | Mexa | But yes, maps are now serverside, which means they have more control over it if someone would file a DCMA. |
| 18:20.09 | Taintedwisp | Yeah but they never cared about it either lol |
| 18:20.26 | Mexa | They still don't |
| 18:20.48 | Taintedwisp | yeah, but I wouldnt try to either way, its pointless, I can make a good map without it |
| 18:20.56 | Mexa | They will start to care when someone complains |
| 18:21.07 | Mexa | That's nice to hear. |
| 18:21.17 | Taintedwisp | lol yeah |
| 18:21.51 | Taintedwisp | There are plenty of Public Domain songs lol |
| 18:22.06 | Taintedwisp | I think I will put a few weird ass songs in one of my maps lol |
| 18:22.14 | Mexa | ... and not รก la egodbout who thought it was a good idea to rip a bunch of zelda suff |
| 18:22.29 | Taintedwisp | What? |
| 18:22.36 | Taintedwisp | You mix spanish in there? |
| 18:22.45 | Mexa | :p |
| 18:22.47 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 18:22.54 | Taintedwisp | Yeah I dunno who did that |
| 18:23.06 | Mexa | egodbout did. |
| 18:23.36 | Mexa | See what I meant now?;) |
| 18:24.14 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 18:24.16 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 18:24.26 | Mexa | Not even sure it was the right way to say that, ut oh well:p |
| 18:24.26 | Taintedwisp | I saw the A with the comma over it and got confused |
| 18:24.27 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 18:24.31 | Mexa | haha |
| 18:24.38 | Vailreth | hello folks |
| 18:24.48 | Taintedwisp | Hey Vailreth, Hows it hangin |
| 18:24.51 | Vailreth | im soo digging this cutsceneeditor |
| 18:25.14 | Taintedwisp | yeah Imma bout to start on it when I get up the Will to do it lol |
| 18:25.19 | Taintedwisp | just listening to music preparing |
| 18:27.02 | Taintedwisp | I hate everyone... HATE HATE HATE |
| 18:27.15 | Taintedwisp | <-------Player hater of the year 2012 |
| 18:30.04 | Deaod | Hate ALL the players! |
| 18:30.12 | Deaod | <insert meme pic> |
| 18:30.16 | Taintedwisp | HATE HATE HATE!!!!! |
| 18:30.20 | Taintedwisp | Damn thats hateful |
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| 19:14.55 | Eimtr | can any1 tell me |
| 19:15.17 | Eimtr | how do I set next map to be a campaign map? Should it be like Campaign\MapName.SC2Map? |
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| 19:52.22 | Stewox | hey anoyone here |
| 19:52.29 | Parthon | nopes |
| 19:52.32 | Parthon | noone is here :P |
| 19:52.33 | Stewox | m |
| 19:52.44 | Stewox | you know how to work with movers a lot ? |
| 19:52.58 | Stewox | seems like a lot of parameters are hidden |
| 19:52.59 | Parthon | nah, haven't used movers I'm afraid |
| 19:53.16 | Parthon | I work mainly with behaviours, abilities and actors |
| 19:53.45 | Parthon | what are movers for? |
| 19:53.50 | Stewox | not the stuff i was used from C&C engines, they had a full list of moddable engine physics and behavior as well as aerodinamic params |
| 19:54.07 | Stewox | mover = engine |
| 19:54.29 | Stewox | but in SC2 , the speed of the unit is in it's actor i think |
| 19:54.33 | Parthon | yeah it is |
| 19:54.53 | Parthon | you have stats for acceleration, turning speed, max speed, decceleration |
| 19:55.07 | Stewox | the basics seem to be in actor |
| 19:55.35 | Stewox | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.45 | Stewox | hmm i got a clue |
| 19:56.10 | Stewox | i will look into XML right now that this new editor has this very very important XML mode avalaible |
| 19:56.25 | Parthon | oh wait, speed is in the unit itself, not in the actor iirc |
| 19:57.31 | Stewox | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:57.32 | Stewox | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:57.34 | Stewox | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:57.40 | Stewox | you got to be kidding me, that is all |
| 19:57.47 | Stewox | i've tried Medivac |
| 19:58.04 | Stewox | this is kind of ridicolous |
| 19:58.10 | Stewox | there should be more |
| 19:58.32 | Stewox | what about pitch and roll , cliff zvel ... etc |
| 20:05.32 | Stewox | ahli |
| 20:05.52 | Stewox | anyone did anything with movers |
| 20:06.03 | Stewox | vailreth |
| 20:06.12 | Vailreth | yes? |
| 20:06.14 | Stewox | a1win |
| 20:06.21 | Stewox | scroll up a bit |
| 20:06.29 | Stewox | you'll see my questions |
| 20:06.44 | Stewox | i've been wondering for this for quite some time now |
| 20:07.29 | Stewox | hmm now i found CoverMissile |
| 20:07.50 | Stewox | seems like all the units have a standard engine without any modifications possible |
| 20:07.52 | Stewox | weird |
| 20:08.01 | Tomura | yes |
| 20:08.13 | Tomura | unit movers have only little modification possibilities |
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| 20:08.24 | Ashamed | SHAAAAH |
| 20:08.26 | Stewox | but we can emulate the effects right ? |
| 20:08.33 | Tomura | but missile movers are quite complex |
| 20:08.40 | Stewox | which of the movers has all ... or most of the possiblities of the engine ? |
| 20:08.48 | Tomura | and are actually used to calculate the movement of the missile |
| 20:09.05 | Stewox | ah so it's pre-calculating trajectory ? |
| 20:09.15 | Stewox | like a "lock on" |
| 20:09.23 | Tomura | with some settings yes |
| 20:09.33 | Stewox | ...behaving missle would do |
| 20:09.35 | Tomura | there is a nice tutorial on the battlenet page |
| 20:09.35 | Stewox | aha |
| 20:09.57 | Stewox | so I can't make missle work like jet aircraft ? |
| 20:10.17 | Stewox | i'll take a look |
| 20:10.20 | Stewox | on the site |
| 20:10.35 | Tomura | http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/game/maps-and-mods/tutorials/missile-movers/ |
| 20:10.36 | Stewox | but still aren't those only missile-specific tuts ? |
| 20:10.39 | Stewox | tnx |
| 20:10.54 | Tomura | I think this gives a good overview of what the fields are used for |
| 20:10.57 | Tomura | and what you can do |
| 20:11.21 | Tomura | the stuff like pitch and roll are mostly handled by actors |
| 20:11.39 | Vailreth | i believe he wants to make a flying unit bank and or roll |
| 20:11.42 | Tomura | since these are only visual effects |
| 20:12.00 | Stewox | aha from what I can see , these are just many different modes , looks like the mover in SC2 is pretty out of date otherwise , moddability speaking, you could do all kinds of things with units in Generals ZH |
| 20:12.18 | Stewox | yes vail |
| 20:12.26 | Stewox | i want pitch control as well |
| 20:12.36 | Stewox | zvel too |
| 20:12.40 | Tomura | there are banker actors |
| 20:12.57 | Vailreth | i dont think the engine supports pitch it might in 1.5 but im not sure |
| 20:13.16 | Stewox | is zvel already moddable ? |
| 20:13.42 | Tomura | zvel = Z Velocity? |
| 20:13.52 | Stewox | yes indeed |
| 20:13.57 | Tomura | no |
| 20:14.02 | Tomura | I don't think so |
| 20:14.16 | Stewox | ah ... then this is some a bit of a concern |
| 20:14.17 | Tomura | sc2 units stay on one height |
| 20:14.30 | Tomura | or a specific height relative to the terrain |
| 20:14.31 | Stewox | this is like less advanced than Sage engine from 2003 |
| 20:14.47 | Stewox | im not saying it really is, but in terms of moddability |
| 20:14.48 | Tomura | well blizzard made a engine that does what it needs to do for sc2 |
| 20:14.58 | Vailreth | exactly |
| 20:15.23 | Stewox | i must admit it's not really a revolution everyone expected the blizzcon before the release |
| 20:15.32 | Tomura | if you want a complex up to date engine you'd have to get the udk |
| 20:15.35 | Tomura | or cry engine |
| 20:15.45 | Stewox | i know i've worked a lot in cryengine |
| 20:15.57 | Stewox | on crysis 1 |
| 20:16.34 | Stewox | no im not going to stop here |
| 20:16.40 | Stewox | with their updated physics |
| 20:16.52 | Stewox | we must get better mover support, i will open up thread on EU bnet |
| 20:17.13 | Stewox | anything you guys want to add to support i'll write it in |
| 20:17.43 | Tomura | so as far as I understand you want the flyer to roll a bit when turning |
| 20:17.50 | Stewox | put it down right now i don't know how much time i have right now cause i have to go im going somewhere ... |
| 20:18.04 | Tomura | and to face up/down when flying up or down |
| 20:18.37 | Stewox | okay that's exactly what I we already mentioned before, surely i will double focus on that |
| 20:18.52 | Stewox | it's called pitch and banking :) |
| 20:18.57 | Tomura | yes |
| 20:19.09 | Tomura | in the actors you can find a banker actor |
| 20:19.15 | Tomura | this one handles the banking |
| 20:19.25 | Tomura | there should be a tutorial on mapster |
| 20:19.42 | Tomura | and I think it also covers the pitch |
| 20:19.43 | Stewox | let me get english semantics straight so banking is rolling ? |
| 20:20.15 | Tomura | yes if I remember correcty |
| 20:20.20 | Stewox | banking is a type of word that reminds me "rolling while turning" |
| 20:20.20 | Tomura | *correctly |
| 20:20.32 | Stewox | okay so that's that |
| 20:20.49 | Tomura | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/15206-tutorial-making-an-air-unit-roll-sideways/ |
| 20:21.34 | Tomura | I think it was this thread |
| 20:21.51 | Stewox | seems familiar since in my local language we have the same transferred-slang word for the sides of the road, the rocky and sands stuff where there's no grass or pavement |
| 20:22.08 | Stewox | similar not same ... |
| 20:23.48 | Stewox | the stuff that progammer did seems like it's pitch , not roll |
| 20:24.10 | Tomura | I thinik the linked tutorial covers the rocker actor |
| 20:24.22 | Tomura | but the banker is also mentioned |
| 20:24.40 | Tomura | just look into the SOpBanker Actor |
| 20:24.47 | Tomura | and how it's used |
| 20:25.13 | Stewox | have you actually looked the video |
| 20:25.16 | Stewox | it's not roll |
| 20:25.20 | Stewox | it's pitch |
| 20:25.43 | Stewox | or if im mistaken the coordinate system for void ray being screwd up ... or offset |
| 20:26.02 | Tomura | hmm that really it pitch |
| 20:26.15 | Tomura | but that stuff was done with the Rocker Site Operation |
| 20:26.34 | Stewox | well ... you know, pitch alone doesn't really help without zvel |
| 20:26.49 | Stewox | nah ... well that was a bit off by saying that |
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| 20:28.01 | Stewox | not that it doesn't help, it doesn't rely, but in sense of actually getting the zvel output so the physics can caluclate the correct pitch conforming to the aerodinamic params |
| 20:30.17 | Stewox | actually what i wanted to say is that manually settable pitch is of no practical use, it has to be calculated according to zvel and gravity properties ... for an advanced moddability, those gravity params are affected PER-UNIT by manupulating the unit's mover and that's what we need blizzard to do. |
| 20:31.21 | Stewox | these mover params are actually expressed more in terms of percent ; rate, intensity, ...etc because you never want a fixed value. |
| 20:32.29 | Stewox | I will just make something out of this and support it , i'll be back here when building the thread and what we would like to see, and im starting this or next week since HOTS is nearing .. |
| 20:33.04 | Vailreth | hotS likely wont be out till october |
| 20:33.45 | Stewox | yeah but ... time it takes to get the message |
| 20:33.52 | Stewox | before it gets to devs |
| 20:33.59 | Stewox | and ... beta and all that |
| 20:34.08 | Stewox | would like to see this included |
| 20:34.26 | Tomura | I think many people would |
| 20:34.30 | Stewox | cause this is a major disability in modding |
| 20:34.47 | Stewox | it's a more serious thing you guys might seem it is |
| 20:34.47 | Vailreth | i wish you luck in getting it included but i imagine it would require a rewrite of the engine that they are mostlikely not willing to do this late |
| 20:34.52 | Tomura | animation blending would also be nice |
| 20:34.59 | Tomura | or flash dialogs |
| 20:35.05 | Stewox | animation blending ... hmm |
| 20:35.24 | Tomura | like additive animations |
| 20:35.33 | Stewox | you'll explain this later, im going shortly because i have to go |
| 20:35.38 | Vailreth | id personally love the ability to create custom campaigns |
| 20:35.47 | Vailreth | really create them |
| 20:35.55 | Stewox | hehe ofcourse |
| 20:36.02 | Vailreth | with campaign and story modes enabled |
| 20:36.13 | Stewox | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:36.23 | Vailreth | i hope so |
| 20:36.43 | Stewox | on the mover thing, why would it require rewrite |
| 20:36.47 | Stewox | the engine can do stuff |
| 20:37.05 | Stewox | it's just a question adding some stuff in and making it moddable |
| 20:37.41 | Vailreth | the engine may not be written to have those values be moddable |
| 20:37.50 | Stewox | it's more of a scripting thing for them to do |
| 20:38.05 | Stewox | i understand computers ... i should not be off on this |
| 20:38.13 | Stewox | yes vail exactly |
| 20:38.16 | Stewox | that's what i meant |
| 20:38.30 | Stewox | in programming, that's the easiest thing, adding a few lines to make a new CVAR |
| 20:38.38 | Stewox | or DVAR ... term varries |
| 20:38.58 | Stewox | that's for the dev console, so it would obviously require more work to add into editor |
| 20:39.18 | Stewox | this stuff is trivial, this is just adding it into libs and all references, it's just effort it takes and time |
| 20:39.36 | Stewox | the programming they would need to do is the actual calculations that i talked about earlier |
| 20:40.03 | Vailreth | i will be back later |
| 20:40.12 | Stewox | the mover parms per-unit would change how it behaves in air and with gravity, that is expressed in percentages , rates |
| 20:40.52 | Stewox | they need to make programming to calculate for these to work , so you get actually a good pitch while flying off or on a cliff |
| 20:41.35 | Stewox | they just need to add this in, and if they don't have the physics underlayer ... that's their fault they didn't design the engine for |
| 20:41.40 | Stewox | ok now i need to go bye |
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| 23:20.05 | Vailreth | any body here? |
| 23:20.19 | Guest1234 | howdy |
| 23:20.37 | Vailreth | help i need and idea |
| 23:20.43 | Guest1234 | sure |
| 23:23.42 | Vailreth | for a cut scene.. |
| 23:25.08 | Guest1234 | are you using the new cut scene editor? |
| 23:30.48 | Dustin | hi |
| 23:37.51 | Vailreth | yes |
| 23:40.43 | Vailreth | hello |