| 00:03.55 | Taintedwisp | Anyone know why the Spider Mine replenish wouldnt be working? I does the build part, but it just doesnt add the spidermines |
| 00:06.03 | Vailreth | spoon |
| 00:06.30 | Taintedwisp | Spoon? what about fork? |
| 00:06.55 | Vailreth | that was just a test and i passed |
| 00:07.10 | Vailreth | what is your modify unit effect set like? |
| 00:09.01 | Taintedwisp | all i had originally changed was the requirement, range, and cost |
| 00:09.04 | Taintedwisp | the rest I have no clue |
| 00:09.43 | Vailreth | beta editor? |
| 00:10.19 | Taintedwisp | yup |
| 00:10.51 | Taintedwisp | I have decided to add abilities to the farm in mini chop farms, and now.... I cant get the spidermines to replenish after 3 |
| 00:11.32 | Vailreth | so it will replishish up to three? |
| 00:12.09 | Taintedwisp | nope |
| 00:12.12 | Taintedwisp | it starts with 3 |
| 00:12.21 | Taintedwisp | and wont add the new 3 after its done building |
| 00:12.49 | Taintedwisp | I Duplicated the ability, it works, then I added the original Replenish ability and button... but it wont work correctly |
| 00:13.11 | Taintedwisp | the duplicated ability is the Vulture spider mine |
| 00:13.12 | Ahli | can't remove library... editor must crash |
| 00:13.19 | Taintedwisp | the other is called Replenish spidermines |
| 00:13.58 | Vailreth | so you have the dupicate and the original on the same unit and neither will work? |
| 00:15.44 | Taintedwisp | Well i just found how to set the starting charges, So Im saying the hell with it and setting it to start with 500... |
| 00:15.48 | Taintedwisp | that should be okay |
| 00:15.54 | Taintedwisp | and ill remove the replenish |
| 00:16.23 | Vailreth | i think i see what you were doing wrong.. |
| 00:17.25 | Vailreth | you created a duplicate of the place spider mine ability correct? but you are using the original replishin mines ? |
| 00:18.16 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 00:18.53 | Vailreth | ok you need your own replinish mines ability or to edit the default Modify unit effect to use the duplicated ability |
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| 00:19.05 | Taintedwisp | ahhh |
| 00:19.07 | Taintedwisp | ok |
| 00:19.08 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 00:19.28 | Taintedwisp | Well its fine now, I added a CD and upped the price, so it couldnt be abused and its working okay now |
| 00:19.45 | Taintedwisp | Hmm I wonder...If I could make a Snipe a building ability lol |
| 00:19.53 | Taintedwisp | snipe one building for 600 damage. |
| 00:20.12 | Taintedwisp | cost 150 Custom resources |
| 00:20.14 | Taintedwisp | LOL |
| 00:22.23 | Vailreth | i wonder if they have given us an easy way to rename resources |
| 00:22.49 | Taintedwisp | theres no way to rename resources? |
| 00:22.52 | Taintedwisp | dammit |
| 00:23.01 | Taintedwisp | I noticed that I could only have 1 custom resource |
| 00:23.08 | Vailreth | there is but its kinda hard |
| 00:23.18 | Taintedwisp | I do things the american way |
| 00:23.24 | Taintedwisp | if its hard its not worth doing... |
| 00:23.32 | Taintedwisp | quick and really half assed |
| 00:23.39 | Vailreth | the only way i know of to rename a resource is through the text editor |
| 00:24.03 | Taintedwisp | I hate it... |
| 00:24.07 | Vailreth | huck huck |
| 00:24.19 | Taintedwisp | I am given hero tabs and there is no explanations on how to work these |
| 00:24.19 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 00:24.40 | Taintedwisp | I do know that in the fields that require a refrence you use the Player Type in the advanced tab |
| 00:24.47 | Taintedwisp | that was all I really Figured out. |
| 00:26.19 | Vailreth | yeah |
| 00:26.42 | Taintedwisp | Probably wont know how to do it until this upcoming weekend |
| 00:26.45 | Vailreth | i believe thats for the rpg style attrubites system they have in hots |
| 00:26.49 | Taintedwisp | When the HoTS beta comes out |
| 00:26.59 | Vailreth | your invited? |
| 00:27.02 | Taintedwisp | Nope |
| 00:27.04 | Vailreth | hah |
| 00:27.07 | Vailreth | me neither |
| 00:27.21 | Taintedwisp | But I know how to read the Sweepstakes ToS, and Find out when it ends, and the earliest you can redeem your prize |
| 00:27.22 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 00:27.25 | Taintedwisp | So I figured it out |
| 00:27.30 | Taintedwisp | and they told ign in the coming weeks |
| 00:27.36 | Vailreth | and im sure its only the multiplayer |
| 00:27.43 | Taintedwisp | Also Arcade beta will end tomorrow at 11:59 |
| 00:27.55 | Taintedwisp | No it will prob have the 1st maybe the 2nd mission too |
| 00:28.05 | Vailreth | really? |
| 00:28.11 | Taintedwisp | Probably |
| 00:28.14 | Taintedwisp | Thats how WoL did |
| 00:28.18 | Vailreth | hopefully |
| 00:28.29 | Taintedwisp | Hopefully I will have to money to get it... |
| 00:28.30 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 00:28.35 | Taintedwisp | I have got to get a job... |
| 00:28.37 | Taintedwisp | and bad |
| 00:28.58 | Taintedwisp | If they have it at gamestop, I will be tradeing in quite a few PS3 games I am up to a count of 40... |
| 00:29.00 | Vailreth | i will have the money to get hots |
| 00:29.12 | Taintedwisp | I will get it... the only difference will be when lol |
| 00:29.14 | Vailreth | i already have 20 usd down on hots |
| 00:29.39 | Taintedwisp | I like starcraft wayyyy too much not to |
| 00:29.44 | Vailreth | yeah |
| 00:30.02 | Taintedwisp | But it wont release till probably around October 11? |
| 00:30.07 | Taintedwisp | thats my best guess |
| 00:30.19 | Vailreth | yeah i was thinking around that time too |
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| 00:30.32 | Vailreth | i may get it for my birthday 11 days later |
| 00:30.36 | Taintedwisp | I say October 11, because they do alot of releases on the 11th lol, of diff months but still |
| 00:30.42 | Taintedwisp | Well thats like a couple months after mine |
| 00:30.57 | Taintedwisp | so worse comes to worse ill save my birthday money and throw some with it |
| 00:30.58 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 00:31.06 | Taintedwisp | But would rather just have a job by then... |
| 00:31.14 | Vailreth | i am hoping for art tools |
| 00:31.18 | Taintedwisp | Tired of looking for work, been unemployed since graduation |
| 00:31.29 | Taintedwisp | Art tools I think come out this week |
| 00:31.31 | Taintedwisp | by my guesses |
| 00:31.49 | Taintedwisp | If the Arcade beta ends tomorrow, then the patch starts thursday |
| 00:31.56 | Vailreth | i hope you get a job |
| 00:32.39 | Vailreth | and a good one |
| 00:33.26 | Taintedwisp | Yeah it sucks I am in a dead end overpopulated Town, the town could support maybe 2k people, its got around 20k.... |
| 00:33.37 | Vailreth | ouch |
| 00:33.39 | Taintedwisp | Black people populate fast.... and thats not trying to be racist... |
| 00:33.45 | Taintedwisp | Yeah sucks living in the sticks |
| 00:33.51 | Vailreth | yeah i know |
| 00:33.56 | Vailreth | i live in redneckville |
| 00:34.06 | Taintedwisp | lol, I live in hoodtrashville |
| 00:34.15 | Taintedwisp | and I tell them that they are trash too... |
| 00:34.33 | Taintedwisp | Sitting around living off Unemployment, and the AAFund.... which is stupid |
| 00:34.51 | Vailreth | i live near people who go squirlle hunting, for food, in my backyard |
| 00:34.53 | Taintedwisp | The AA fund is a government fund set asaid for black people... literally |
| 00:35.04 | Taintedwisp | Hey I go Squirel hunting... they taste good |
| 00:35.14 | Vailreth | its more |
| 00:35.23 | Vailreth | In my back yard |
| 00:35.37 | Taintedwisp | Of course I am somewhat of a Redneck/Geek/Nerd/Metal head |
| 00:35.46 | Vailreth | they cut down all of their own sqirell trees |
| 00:35.49 | Taintedwisp | Lol |
| 00:35.58 | Taintedwisp | Yeah we only hunt on our own land... |
| 00:36.11 | Vailreth | here poaching is fashionable |
| 00:36.17 | Taintedwisp | I am not stupid enough to break and lawls just to eat a rodent... |
| 00:36.31 | Taintedwisp | and yes I ment to spell it lawls |
| 00:36.41 | Vailreth | i like things with more meat on their bones personally |
| 00:36.53 | Taintedwisp | its a fashionable way to insult the law |
| 00:36.53 | Taintedwisp | l |
| 00:36.56 | Vailreth | i might try kapibara |
| 00:37.16 | Vailreth | or something BIG but if its too small its not worth it |
| 00:37.38 | Vailreth | any who... |
| 00:37.40 | Taintedwisp | Rabbit is great. |
| 00:37.52 | Vailreth | i am big proponent of cultured meat |
| 00:37.59 | Taintedwisp | Squirrel is good, But its that simple satisfaction of knowing you killed your own food |
| 00:38.04 | Taintedwisp | makes you feel like a man |
| 00:38.27 | Vailreth | hm |
| 00:38.30 | Taintedwisp | Kill it clean it, cook it eat it, Its like fishing... its the satisfaction of it all |
| 00:39.05 | Taintedwisp | But to clean Squirrel make sure you dont have a weak stomach, because you will have to de-gut it, break the legs, and pull the skin off |
| 00:39.07 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 00:39.18 | Vailreth | im too screamish now adays |
| 00:39.30 | Vailreth | i used to be able to gut catfish barehanded |
| 00:39.51 | Taintedwisp | I have a nuts, that makes me not too screamish for anything... |
| 00:39.54 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 00:40.07 | Taintedwisp | blood never bothered me. |
| 00:40.29 | Vailreth | nit not the blood its the guts .. no adays yeuch |
| 00:40.38 | Vailreth | now* |
| 00:40.38 | Taintedwisp | I feel bad for anyone who hunts deer |
| 00:40.46 | Taintedwisp | That is the MOST BOREING SHIT EVER |
| 00:40.56 | Vailreth | heh |
| 00:41.02 | Taintedwisp | You sit there for 6-18 hours HOPEING that something comes... |
| 00:41.06 | Taintedwisp | I cant do it |
| 00:41.13 | Taintedwisp | I want to walk around and look up or down and shoot... |
| 00:41.20 | Vailreth | thats why they put out feeders arround here |
| 00:41.31 | Taintedwisp | Around here, Feeders are against the law..... |
| 00:41.41 | Vailreth | i see |
| 00:41.43 | Taintedwisp | So are using dogs to run game |
| 00:41.53 | Vailreth | dont know about that one here. |
| 00:41.55 | Taintedwisp | and you have to always wear orange |
| 00:42.01 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 00:42.13 | Vailreth | yeah orange is a must |
| 00:42.15 | Taintedwisp | Yeah NC, has alot of Safety, and Enviormental laws |
| 00:42.26 | Taintedwisp | they do help keep all the game populated |
| 00:42.39 | Taintedwisp | Pigs, Turkeys, Deer, Rabbit, Squirrel, and Dove |
| 00:43.02 | Vailreth | yeah other than hunting seasons and cracking down on poachers i dont know much about the hunting here in TX |
| 00:43.35 | Taintedwisp | OH GREAT |
| 00:43.39 | Taintedwisp | and my Chrome is messing up again |
| 00:43.46 | Taintedwisp | Its closing tabs when I click on them |
| 00:43.50 | Vailreth | ouch |
| 00:44.00 | Taintedwisp | ... and opening bookmarks in a new tab.... |
| 00:44.02 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 00:44.05 | Taintedwisp | BRB |
| 00:44.07 | Vailreth | ol |
| 00:44.08 | Vailreth | k |
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| 00:45.12 | taintedwisp | There lol just have to close the browser and re-open it |
| 00:45.59 | Vailreth | i see |
| 00:46.32 | taintedwisp | I would love to see a Sc2 Tournament, and SOON, where they compete on WOL until the Quarter Finals then its all HOTS |
| 00:46.34 | taintedwisp | that would be awesome |
| 00:47.12 | Vailreth | i see |
| 00:47.23 | taintedwisp | no you dont, because your blind. |
| 00:47.38 | Vailreth | i cant wait see how they created the swarm hosts |
| 00:48.09 | taintedwisp | ? |
| 00:48.10 | taintedwisp | not hard |
| 00:48.21 | taintedwisp | just look at the zergling burrowed |
| 00:48.25 | taintedwisp | and look at the Brood lord |
| 00:48.31 | taintedwisp | add the two together |
| 00:48.41 | Vailreth | 'i know ive made two or three variations of the swarm host already |
| 00:48.44 | taintedwisp | I cant wait to see how they made the Ultralisk upgrade |
| 00:49.14 | taintedwisp | DUUDE THAT WOULD BE A BADASS ABILITY FOR MY MAP |
| 00:49.21 | taintedwisp | But I have no animation for it... |
| 00:49.27 | taintedwisp | Or Burrowed Model |
| 00:49.31 | taintedwisp | :( |
| 00:49.41 | Vailreth | i made jumping roaches out of standard anims |
| 00:49.44 | taintedwisp | I need a burrowed Probe/Drone/ and SCV |
| 00:50.02 | taintedwisp | noo the idea is to burrow them so they can move under the trees |
| 00:50.15 | Vailreth | the burrowed models are the same as the normal models ... |
| 00:50.15 | taintedwisp | Make it cost 1 custom resource to burrow and 1 to unburrow |
| 00:50.21 | taintedwisp | No there not are they? |
| 00:50.24 | Vailreth | just undergound with a splat |
| 00:50.27 | taintedwisp | oh |
| 00:50.28 | taintedwisp | ... |
| 00:50.29 | taintedwisp | lol |
| 00:50.33 | taintedwisp | Ill have to look into that later |
| 00:50.39 | taintedwisp | Because it sounds awesome |
| 00:50.51 | taintedwisp | I love mini Chop Farms |
| 00:51.00 | Vailreth | nod |
| 00:51.02 | taintedwisp | Great map, Lets me add as I learn. |
| 00:51.13 | taintedwisp | Slowly, SLOWLY getting better |
| 00:51.27 | taintedwisp | Its Mediocre now |
| 00:51.28 | taintedwisp | lol |
| 00:51.41 | taintedwisp | YAY FOR MEDIOCRACY!!! |
| 00:51.45 | taintedwisp | lawl |
| 00:51.56 | Vailreth | do you know if the burrow charge is targeted or instant? |
| 00:52.30 | taintedwisp | I dont know to be honest |
| 00:52.35 | taintedwisp | I only learn things as I come to them |
| 00:52.40 | taintedwisp | I should Know in 1 weeks time |
| 00:52.43 | taintedwisp | lol |
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| 01:07.36 | Vailreth | well looks like its more complicated than i imaggined |
| 01:07.48 | Vailreth | the burrow charge for ultras i mean |
| 01:07.59 | taintedwisp | lol |
| 01:08.11 | taintedwisp | yeah....I mean I could Simulate it... |
| 01:08.13 | taintedwisp | But.... yeah |
| 01:08.29 | taintedwisp | Wiat nvm, mine wouldnt charge but it would attack when it unburrows |
| 01:08.47 | taintedwisp | Wait I could simulate it |
| 01:08.49 | taintedwisp | LAWL |
| 01:09.07 | taintedwisp | Make an ability similar to the spidermines that auto attacks |
| 01:09.17 | taintedwisp | and make an ability similar to Zealots charge |
| 01:09.21 | taintedwisp | and give the burrowed unit both |
| 01:09.32 | taintedwisp | and make it moveable |
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| 01:10.16 | taintedwisp | Makeing a unit Burrow, is more complicated then I had thought.... |
| 01:10.17 | taintedwisp | lol |
| 01:12.33 | taintedwisp | hey vailreth, does the 1.5 beta editor seem laggier to you? |
| 01:12.46 | Vailreth | not really |
| 01:12.56 | taintedwisp | It does to me, sometimes, Othertimes its fine though |
| 01:17.24 | Ahli | the trigger editor slows down on old functions or something like that :S I have no real clue about the pattern, but editing the structure of the code in some functions creates big lags (even if the function is very small). If you copy the whole function and edit the stuff there it seems faster... |
| 01:17.56 | taintedwisp | The lighting Section in the terrain editor is confusing. |
| 01:18.14 | taintedwisp | It allows for four regions, Yet I cant seem to change what lighting a region uses after it is set. |
| 01:18.19 | Vailreth | yeah same here and i have no idea how to assign diffrent lighting |
| 01:19.00 | Vailreth | i can apply the i diffrent regions but i cant assign diffrent lighting to them |
| 01:19.16 | taintedwisp | yeah... I dunno |
| 01:21.13 | taintedwisp | I wish lighting regions were Handeled like Regular regions |
| 01:22.23 | Ahli | it is using only 1 lighting, but the 4 regions can have modifications |
| 01:22.31 | Ahli | open the lighting editor (window -> lighting) |
| 01:22.45 | Ahli | chose your tileset's lighting and go to the regions tab |
| 01:22.55 | Ahli | there you have some settings you can alter for each region |
| 01:23.30 | Ahli | so you can't make the sun come from different angles, but you can change the effects on the units and color |
| 01:33.04 | taintedwisp | WTF |
| 01:33.24 | taintedwisp | All my textures are dark now... |
| 01:33.26 | taintedwisp | Randomly |
| 01:33.33 | taintedwisp | I was fiddlin around in the lightings... |
| 01:33.39 | taintedwisp | But I reverted them all... |
| 01:33.49 | taintedwisp | and the ground textures are dark as shit |
| 01:34.19 | taintedwisp | Appearently not in game.. |
| 01:34.30 | taintedwisp | And it fixed itself |
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| 01:47.09 | Vailreth | bingo |
| 01:47.48 | Vailreth | i have ultralisks that burrow charge and emerge from the ground stunning units around them |
| 01:48.11 | Vailreth | or it will stun them when it emerges |
| 01:54.21 | taintedwisp | Nice |
| 01:54.37 | taintedwisp | did it require 2 abilitys that fire simutaniously, or just one? |
| 01:56.13 | Vailreth | just one |
| 01:56.27 | Vailreth | i had to make a new unbrrow |
| 01:59.30 | taintedwisp | nice |
| 02:03.56 | Vailreth | the only issue is that it will not trigger the effect when it unburrows |
| 02:07.22 | Ahli | oh, you can now set actors for different death effects... splendid |
| 02:14.08 | Ahli | hmm, the gui is broken :S |
| 02:14.14 | Ahli | can't click the dropdowns there |
| 02:29.37 | Vailreth | ok the ultra unburrows and stuns nearby targets but there seems to be an actor issue |
| 02:41.41 | Vailreth | nice ok its a working |
| 02:45.45 | Vailreth | well now that thats done i dont know what to do |
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| 03:16.53 | Aelie | hallo |
| 03:17.00 | Dustin | hi |
| 03:17.09 | Aelie | oh its you |
| 03:17.36 | Aelie | how would you like to play a game of g-td on beta |
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| 03:19.04 | Aelie | poke poke |
| 03:19.19 | Dustin | Sure |
| 03:22.49 | Aelie | so is there any way to start a game early? it doesnt even show me the lobby for the game |
| 03:23.05 | Aelie | if its waiting for 8 people before it starts |
| 03:23.09 | Aelie | its never gonna go |
| 03:23.18 | Dustin | you should be able to start it if you're the host |
| 03:23.35 | Aelie | a private game i guess? |
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| 04:51.19 | Aelie | so they changed morphing in 1.5 i guess? |
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| 05:12.08 | Aelie | for some reason morphing no longer takes resources away |
| 05:17.36 | Parthon | I thought only if it's the same cost |
| 05:25.10 | Aelie | it shows the cost |
| 05:25.14 | Aelie | it jsut doesnt take it |
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| 05:49.02 | Parthon | hmm, that is odd |
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| 10:43.03 | Hookah604 | I can save any length of text in data table? |
| 10:43.20 | Hookah604 | Or is there a limit that how long can be a value in the data table? |
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| 11:05.52 | Ahli | I'm not saving text in my data table :S I've only 600k -700k reals used... |
| 11:06.39 | Ahli | but I think I should decrease that by filtering out default values... |
| 11:08.07 | Hookah604 | wow |
| 11:08.14 | Hookah604 | why you need so much reals? |
| 11:08.33 | Hookah604 | I guess that confirms that data tables have no memory limits.D |
| 11:08.35 | Ahli | I'm only dumping down every custom value available into it instead of filtering out the ones that are not 0.0 |
| 11:09.04 | Ahli | also I was trying to check for limits ;D but I think with optimizations I won't use more than that atm ^^ |
| 11:09.29 | Ahli | so basically I've saved 7k units + custom values. |
| 11:10.11 | Hookah604 | .D |
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| 11:11.11 | Ahli | I saved owner, hp, maxhp, angle, position, custom values and a marker, if a unit is the summon of leoric... hmmm, and why is my custom value loop running from 0 to 65? |
| 11:11.25 | Hookah604 | well in my map you design and research units and it's values saved in data tables and you can research and design as much you want. (I not even added delete function) And people never had problem with data tables as it seems now. |
| 11:12.51 | Ahli | I assume there is a limit, but it seems to be pretty high which is unlikely for Blizzard |
| 11:13.43 | Hookah604 | thats why I assume there is no limit:D |
| 11:14.11 | Ahli | haha. yeah. Now I understand that point of view |
| 11:14.24 | Ahli | Blizzard must have forgotten to give us a limit like 500 variables |
| 11:14.42 | Hookah604 | ahh you can get now how much value is in a data table! |
| 11:14.49 | Ahli | yes |
| 11:14.53 | Hookah604 | I think I will do a test now |
| 11:16.41 | Hookah604 | do you think they use any compression in it? |
| 11:16.55 | Hookah604 | how crazy I am:D |
| 11:17.28 | Hookah604 | I just have to check banks and I know that they wont use compression. |
| 11:18.46 | Ahli | banks are still terrible |
| 11:19.31 | Ahli | basically you just need to make a few heroes in my map, get some items and try to play a multiplayer game with you not being the last person. I've read that the last person has a working bank then |
| 11:20.03 | Hookah604 | ? |
| 11:20.13 | Hookah604 | did they change anything about banks? |
| 11:20.18 | Ahli | I'm reaching the limit that is working for multiplayer ;D |
| 11:20.21 | Ahli | no |
| 11:20.58 | Ahli | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/5738086574#2 some guy made some tests, too I guess ;D |
| 11:24.00 | Hookah604 | I gues you know that you have to save as much you can into 1 string value to compress really efficiently. |
| 11:25.39 | Hookah604 | ohh I need to read that after the I tested data table size.) |
| 11:26.11 | Ahli | I know that, but compressing uses a lot of CPU power and would create lags in my map |
| 11:26.42 | Ahli | saving uncompressed is much more efficient in my case because I need to save the hero in random intervals in the bank |
| 11:27.24 | Ahli | I tried it with starcode and it became unplayable |
| 11:27.30 | Ahli | huge lag ;S |
| 11:28.56 | Hookah604 | not starcode |
| 11:29.03 | Hookah604 | that theard in bnet is shit |
| 11:29.45 | Hookah604 | I did many tests in 1.4 with my pictionary map, its easy to check if the bank loaded right with pictures.D |
| 11:30.11 | Hookah604 | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/28875-trigger-bank-facts/#p1 |
| 11:30.48 | Ahli | you can just check if it is verified or not :D |
| 11:30.52 | Hookah604 | basically you have to save as much you can into 1 key and you save 69 character by that. |
| 11:31.44 | Hookah604 | verify wont show if your bank gets mixed up with other player's bank and thats what happens if you go over 8000 character... |
| 11:32.10 | Ahli | if the banks get mixed up, your banks aren't verified anymore |
| 11:32.18 | Hookah604 | Well my map didnt show that too after I implemented some compression... |
| 11:33.32 | Hookah604 | great, people still cant post on other server bnet forums.( |
| 11:34.41 | Ahli | I'm testing custom value indexes now. I can enter big indexes like 999. |
| 11:34.54 | Hookah604 | ? |
| 11:35.00 | Ahli | but it doesn't show it :S |
| 11:35.02 | Ahli | or load |
| 11:35.23 | Ahli | before it was... 64? |
| 11:35.32 | Ahli | 63? |
| 11:35.39 | Ahli | 0 to 63 I guess |
| 11:35.46 | Hookah604 | ohh unit's custom value |
| 11:36.02 | Hookah604 | dont know |
| 11:36.11 | Ahli | I'm using 60 now |
| 11:36.16 | Hookah604 | not really used more than 20 ever. |
| 11:36.20 | Ahli | and I missed the output ;D |
| 11:36.30 | Ahli | I'm using like 44 atm for my units |
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| 11:36.35 | Ahli | because it contains all combat data |
| 11:36.51 | Ahli | hmm can't read values I just wrote into last created unit |
| 11:38.18 | Ahli | ahhh I'm confused |
| 11:38.46 | Ahli | anyone already found out how to load script code without trigger errors into the debugger? |
| 11:39.00 | Hookah604 | hehe |
| 11:39.08 | Hookah604 | I gave up on debugger |
| 11:39.28 | Hookah604 | my maps full of errors which doesnt cause any error.D |
| 11:40.15 | Ahli | it throws warnings for me too... omg u created a unit flagged as a projectile which wasn't created due to a launch effect... warning red red red |
| 11:41.05 | Hookah604 | somehow I cant save more than 30k data table value |
| 11:41.43 | Hookah604 | its says data table overflow, probably infinite loop |
| 11:42.03 | Hookah604 | so it can save more and its just fucking me cause my code?:D |
| 11:42.59 | Ahli | you are saving text, aren't you? maybe it's limited by its used space and not the entry count |
| 11:43.14 | Ahli | *amount |
| 11:43.46 | Hookah604 | yeah I will check too, I am saving string |
| 11:44.07 | Ahli | index 999 doesn't work ;S |
| 11:44.13 | Ahli | in custom values |
| 11:46.35 | Ahli | I should really stop to test those things in my map because saving takes forever |
| 11:48.27 | Hookah604 | hmm still cant get more than 30500 value into data table |
| 11:49.53 | Ahli | maybe it uses the script memory :o |
| 11:50.07 | Ahli | do you have computer players in your map? |
| 11:50.09 | Hookah604 | string size doesnt matter, so I think its just anti script buging |
| 11:51.16 | Hookah604 | I have neutrals with no ai |
| 11:51.54 | Ahli | 0 to 63 is usable in custom values. other indexes return 0 |
| 11:51.57 | Hookah604 | lol it kills the map |
| 11:52.25 | Ahli | adding ai kills map? ai takes up approx 1mb of script memory |
| 11:52.30 | Hookah604 | 30500 seems like a limit and string length doesnt count |
| 11:52.40 | Hookah604 | not ai |
| 11:52.45 | Hookah604 | the data table |
| 11:52.48 | Ahli | ;S |
| 11:53.19 | Hookah604 | thats veryyyyyyyyyyy bad |
| 11:53.27 | Ahli | did you try to save not everything at once? |
| 11:53.29 | Hookah604 | 30500 is nothing |
| 11:53.43 | Hookah604 | I had 2 minute delay |
| 11:54.40 | Ahli | I just check it again and save all my 9 dungeons into the data table |
| 11:54.56 | Ahli | and request the data table entry count again |
| 11:55.06 | Hookah604 | k |
| 11:55.37 | Hookah604 | I am sure I had over 100k in 1.4 |
| 11:56.53 | Ahli | saving map. then I only need to start it and let it create my dungeons and serialize them |
| 11:58.16 | Ahli | starting |
| 11:59.12 | Ahli | I'm using 17% code :o |
| 12:00.49 | Ahli | 691920 is the number of values in the global data table |
| 12:00.57 | Hookah604 | lol |
| 12:01.11 | Hookah604 | I am trying now with saving different values |
| 12:03.01 | Hookah604 | I saved now 30800 because I loaded the map first than I run the tests and the map generates 1k data table value at start |
| 12:03.20 | Hookah604 | after that the same error and none of my triggers work:D |
| 12:04.48 | Hookah604 | (I mean after the error none of my triggers work which is strange) |
| 12:05.48 | Hookah604 | LOL |
| 12:06.27 | Hookah604 | I just save 1100k real values |
| 12:07.20 | Hookah604 | I save 31k string over its fucked again |
| 12:07.27 | Hookah604 | seems like only strings matter |
| 12:08.53 | Ahli | hmm, did I mess up my deserialization code or why is every unit a rare monster :X |
| 12:11.59 | Ahli | yeah ok... I accidentially wrote 1 instead of i in the index :S |
| 12:12.26 | Ahli | but was a cool effect to see every monster a rare one in my dungeon ;D |
| 12:12.38 | Ahli | when they are to close together it becomes way to bright red :S |
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| 12:14.59 | Hookah604 | hmm where should I post that data table string have limit? this is really fucked up shit. (good that I only save same values like that in my map) |
| 12:15.56 | Ahli | I don't know. same area as bank facts? |
| 12:17.02 | Hookah604 | saved 2.4mill real values in data table. Seems like the time which it saves new values a little bit increased by it |
| 12:17.44 | Hookah604 | Noooooooo |
| 12:17.49 | Hookah604 | texts overflow it too |
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| 12:42.30 | Hookah604 | this is getting interesting. It actually doesnt counts into the "global" memory limt. |
| 12:42.34 | harl | (wuff wuff!) |
| 12:43.00 | Hookah604 | (I mean the one you overflow with attributes and triggers) |
| 12:45.19 | Ahli | set data table int: 114ms; get int 89ms; remove 103ms; set 115ms: set 100 ms: 90ms; 90 ms (514); remove 103; get 25ms (no values to get); remove 15ms (no values to remove); set 115ms |
| 12:45.35 | Hookah604 | ahh I mean variable* |
| 12:46.00 | Ahli | saving is faster when the entries already exist |
| 12:46.17 | Ahli | I've used 100k values for these times |
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| 12:46.40 | Hookah604 | so it doesnt increase if you have already saved many value? |
| 12:46.47 | Ahli | need to test that now |
| 12:51.16 | Hookah604 | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/triggers/38191-info-data-table-limit/ |
| 12:51.19 | Hookah604 | made topic.D |
| 13:01.06 | Ahli | time after init of 200k other integers: 480ms (480); saving 100k integers into new testing entries: 568ms (1048); save: 90ms (1138); save: 89ms (1227); get: 86ms (86); remove 104ms (104); remove 406 (510); remove 458 (968); get 403 (489); save 595 (1822); save 89 (1911) |
| 13:02.27 | Ahli | basically: don't remove non existing values; try to reuse entries on saving; don't try to get non existing entries... when the data table contains a lot of variables |
| 13:02.54 | Hookah604 | well the difference is so small that I won really care:D |
| 13:02.55 | Ahli | in short: never remove, and try to reuse entries. |
| 13:03.13 | Ahli | for me that needs to run while other players are playing |
| 13:03.19 | Hookah604 | wont* |
| 13:03.57 | Ahli | so I learned that I'm not allowed to remove values (or not above a limit that isn't reached on a regular basis) |
| 13:04.13 | Hookah604 | that string limit is really fucked up. My map may reach it in very long games.( |
| 13:21.07 | Ahli | time after init of 200k other integers: 496ms (496); saving 100k integers into new testing entries: 583ms (1079); save: 89ms (1168); save: 99ms (1267); get: 83ms (83); remove 101ms (101); remove 425 (526); remove 402 (928); get 405 (488); save 597 (1864); save 89 (1953) [I changed my keys to have the variable starting at the second (test) or third (init) place in the key.] |
| 13:34.44 | Ahli | I've put my results below your post |
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| 14:03.30 | Hookah604 | btw I added background image for the minimap in 1.5 beta and when I removed it the minimap stayed darker as it is in other maps. |
| 14:04.17 | Hookah604 | and now I dont know how to make it brighter. (I am not 100% sure that it was caused by me adding background image) |
| 14:04.56 | Ahli | tried to remove it again? ;D |
| 14:05.54 | Hookah604 | yeah |
| 14:06.19 | Ahli | tell Blizzard in their arcade forums |
| 14:06.27 | Ahli | I do that :D http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/4552426651?page=1#11 |
| 14:06.45 | Hookah604 | ohh fuck format number still doesnt works right |
| 14:06.50 | Hookah604 | now I am fucked again |
| 14:07.36 | Hookah604 | what is blizzard's mail where we can submit beta bugs? |
| 14:08.08 | Ahli | I think the mail was only for the invitation... but I don't know |
| 14:08.34 | Ahli | I've all my hopes in the enGB forum team. Their support team was competent in the past. |
| 14:08.43 | Ahli | the German one wasn't |
| 14:09.27 | Hookah604 | yeah |
| 14:10.01 | Hookah604 | from time to time I do rude things on EU forum against blizzard and they never touch it.:D |
| 14:12.03 | Ahli | it just took a minute to add a modify variable integer into the GUI :S |
| 14:14.54 | Ahli | if I copy it and make changes in the copy, it is super fast :S |
| 14:15.18 | Ahli | the editor doesn't like you changing old functions |
| 14:18.07 | Hookah604 | hmm I cant find the blizz's mail |
| 14:20.17 | Hookah604 | ahh |
| 14:20.17 | Hookah604 | arcadefeedback@blizzard.com |
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| 14:26.54 | Ahli | now I added a buffer to my first serialization :D now it's quite impossible that I hit the terrible timings. |
| 14:27.20 | Ahli | so, no more new entries after loading the game, hopefully |
| 14:35.44 | Ahli | a few thousand D3 accounts banned |
| 14:41.52 | Hookah604 | for gold mining? |
| 14:41.59 | Hookah604 | (with bots) |
| 14:43.30 | Ahli | http://www.diablofans.com/blizz-tracker/topic/226549-diablo-iii-players-banned/ |
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| 14:46.27 | Ahli | need a cool lightning aoe animation :S I think sc2 has none. I might use lightning beams from the trap towards the targets |
| 14:50.18 | Hookah604 | yeah there isnt much impact animations.( |
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| 15:27.39 | Taintedwisp | Hmmm, Havent seen Jademus nor Bounty in some time. |
| 15:28.38 | Vailreth | bounty is farming diablo im sure and Jade maybe still playing it as well |
| 15:31.09 | Hookah604 | As I heard it was quite a good business to farm with bots |
| 15:31.35 | Vailreth | i see |
| 15:33.09 | Ahli | kueken was sucked in there, too |
| 15:33.40 | Vailreth | atleast i am free of the blight on my time that was diablo |
| 15:34.23 | Ahli | D3 bores me :S played it yesterday again. I could only play 1 quest :S |
| 15:34.51 | Vailreth | yeah i havent played since the third day it was out |
| 15:35.01 | Vailreth | it stopped being fun |
| 15:37.06 | Ahli | arcades were more interesting ;D |
| 15:37.40 | Vailreth | shit! |
| 15:37.59 | Vailreth | i didnt save my finished ability after i finished it and the power went out last night |
| 15:38.34 | Ahli | I hit ctrl + s after every change I make |
| 15:39.01 | Hookah604 | Diablo is only good in hc:D |
| 15:40.02 | Ahli | I only played HC except for 1 time on normal to avoid dieing... but then my team hadn't done that and all died vs belial's big form... like instantly |
| 15:40.27 | Ahli | then I died, too. But now belial is easy :S |
| 15:40.48 | Ahli | I fear the snake demons as a DH more than belial himself ;D |
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| 15:42.33 | Ahli | how do I set a beam to start from the caster position? I only get it to spawn from 0.0 |
| 15:42.56 | Ahli | so bottom left corner |
| 15:44.23 | Vailreth | what action actor are you using to govern the beam? |
| 15:44.54 | Ahli | no action actor |
| 15:45.07 | Ahli | simple beam. |
| 15:46.52 | Vailreth | maybe edit the host launch opperations - opperations field? |
| 15:47.29 | Vailreth | site ops i mean |
| 15:47.49 | Taintedwisp | You people confuse me lol |
| 15:47.50 | Vailreth | host launch site ops operations |
| 15:48.12 | Taintedwisp | Some major Maintenance, is going on in the Arcade Beta, and Diablo 3, I wonder if Arcade is finnaly coming to WoL Patch |
| 15:48.13 | Vailreth | how dod we confuse? |
| 15:48.21 | Taintedwisp | How dontd you |
| 15:50.37 | Vailreth | i wouldnt know |
| 15:51.31 | Vailreth | any who i will be back |
| 15:52.21 | Vailreth | and im bacj |
| 15:52.24 | Vailreth | back |
| 15:56.39 | Taintedwisp | lol kk |
| 15:56.45 | Taintedwisp | That was the longest absence ever |
| 15:56.50 | Taintedwisp | A whole 1 minute |
| 15:58.32 | Vailreth | indeed |
| 16:00.00 | Vailreth | it turns out i did save the map with the ability working |
| 16:00.12 | Taintedwisp | LOL, Watching Friday after the next |
| 16:00.17 | Ahli | is the attaching completely broken, if the model has no attachment point in 1.5? It used to use the middle of the bounding sphere of the model or something before |
| 16:00.55 | Vailreth | it may be |
| 16:01.40 | Vailreth | what are you attempting to do, maybe i can assisit |
| 16:01.53 | Vailreth | assist |
| 16:06.48 | Ahli | just launching a beam from a unit that has a model without attachment points :S |
| 16:07.42 | Vailreth | good luck |
| 16:09.46 | Ahli | I've the same prob with a beam that is attached to a missile. :S the missile's model has no attachment points and now it broke with 1.5. before it worked |
| 16:11.26 | Vailreth | i didnt notice that |
| 16:11.40 | Vailreth | but the missile i am using may have an attachment |
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| 16:22.50 | Taintedwisp | i dont understand, whenever some old pervert claims that he was born loving little boys, the media claims hes strait, are they really too dumb to connect that a male having sex with a male is a fucked up in the head homosexual? |
| 16:23.20 | Taintedwisp | Homosexuality has been proven a mental disorder, and yet.... people are acting as if theres nothing wrong with it.... |
| 16:23.22 | Lajla | Obviously he's both a paedophile and a homosexual |
| 16:23.25 | Lajla | those are two different axes. |
| 16:23.32 | Lajla | Nothing is 'proven' to be a mental disorder. |
| 16:23.42 | Lajla | You can't prove that, it's a matter of definition. |
| 16:23.53 | Lajla | If it's in DSM-IV defines what makes it a mental disorder, homosexuality currently is not. |
| 16:23.58 | Taintedwisp | Well either way, take the bad with the good, or take none at all |
| 16:24.06 | Lajla | Taintedwisp, explain? |
| 16:24.24 | Taintedwisp | Well for example |
| 16:24.28 | Taintedwisp | white people |
| 16:24.45 | Taintedwisp | We dont hide that there are white racist, we openly admit it, and try to take steps to fix it |
| 16:24.57 | Lajla | Some white people, some don't. |
| 16:25.04 | Lajla | Well, a most do, a few don't. |
| 16:25.15 | Taintedwisp | but homosexuals just claim that these men raping little boys are not gay... |
| 16:25.38 | Lajla | THat's silly, they are homosexual, just as the men raping little girls, which are more numerous, are heterosexual. |
| 16:25.57 | Lajla | As far as I know, the majority of paedophiles is homosexual, but the majority of paedosexuals is heterosexual. |
| 16:25.57 | Taintedwisp | yeah, but the media constantly claims they are straight |
| 16:26.03 | Lajla | That is bizarre |
| 16:26.10 | Lajla | I have never heard any medium claim that. |
| 16:26.41 | Taintedwisp | Paedosexuals would be homosexual as well, if it were a male |
| 16:26.50 | Lajla | Should also be noted that a lot of paedosexuals in fact are not paedophiles medically speaking, Marc Dutroux being a prominent example. |
| 16:26.56 | Taintedwisp | i have only heard of teachers having sex with highschool boys |
| 16:27.05 | Taintedwisp | lol thats the only cases I have heard of women |
| 16:27.25 | Lajla | Lot more exist, but those child rapists often weren't paedophiles, in the clinical sense. |
| 16:27.49 | Taintedwisp | yeah I can see what you are saying, though |
| 16:27.52 | Lajla | Paraphrased, his psychiatric report read "The age of his victims played no role of arousal beyond the convenience of manipulating a young and weak victim" |
| 16:27.58 | Taintedwisp | But another thing that REALLY annoys me |
| 16:28.13 | Taintedwisp | is that gay people want equal rights, like black people and mexicans wanted and now have |
| 16:28.36 | Taintedwisp | but I have never heard of any gay people helping anyone, those black and minority groups all helped people to get support for their cause |
| 16:28.53 | Taintedwisp | and I dont mean an individual i mean like their group |
| 16:28.59 | Lajla | Ian McKellen has done a lot of charity work. |
| 16:29.05 | Lajla | How does 'a group' help people in that sense? |
| 16:29.43 | Taintedwisp | well for example. before al sharpton ruined it, the NAACP used to go around and give money to schools, and fund medical research. |
| 16:29.54 | Lajla | As far as I know there are basically no organizations which limit memberships to homosexuals. You're also free to go and attend the gay pride regardless of identification and/or orientation. |
| 16:30.30 | Lajla | Ohh, groups in that way. |
| 16:30.31 | Taintedwisp | Yeah but their are groups that are FOR gays, the NAACP isnt for Blacks, its for everyone, but it focused on black rights |
| 16:30.39 | Lajla | Well, I'm sure you can be white and join then NAACP as well. |
| 16:31.05 | Lajla | I know of no such group honestly, that's there for gays. |
| 16:31.25 | Taintedwisp | well yeah, but who would want to be with that, all white people hate all black people give me more government money lol. thats what it has sadly turned into |
| 16:31.53 | Lajla | I am pretty sure that as far as western nations go, the majority of white people are not identified racists. |
| 16:32.52 | Taintedwisp | yeah, Well I am not going to lie, there is a part of me that is racist i guess you could say, but I grew up around the hood trash, and my hatred for them has reason.... 30 minutes talking about robbing a store and how to do it by the teacher in school can do that lol |
| 16:32.57 | Lajla | Besides, I think evertyone should have aequal rights regardless, is good stuiff. |
| 16:33.05 | Taintedwisp | not enough hate to hurt anyone but stil |
| 16:33.39 | Taintedwisp | Eh, I dont think that churches should be forced to marry 2 gays, teh state should define a legal union in a new way, and allow those religions to keep their practices sacred |
| 16:34.27 | Taintedwisp | A religion should withold the right to discourage certain acts |
| 16:34.47 | Taintedwisp | Its fair for everyone... but the government and gays want all or nothing.... |
| 16:35.08 | Lajla | I agree |
| 16:35.12 | Taintedwisp | I'm starting to think America has turned into a modernday babylon |
| 16:35.18 | Lajla | Honestly, I think 'marriage' should just lose legal meaning |
| 16:35.25 | Lajla | there should be certain tax laws for two people lviing under one roof |
| 16:35.38 | Lajla | whether their implied relationship there is romantic or not is frankly not relevant I feel. |
| 16:35.49 | Taintedwisp | nah, because Marriage has had legal meaning for thousands of years, in almost all cultures |
| 16:36.02 | Lajla | That's a pretty weak argument, so had nobility. |
| 16:36.22 | Taintedwisp | ACTUALY |
| 16:36.23 | Lajla | Besides, it changes very little except what you call it, people should be free to call each other married however so they desire honestly. |
| 16:36.30 | Taintedwisp | i retake my statement I agree with you |
| 16:36.44 | Taintedwisp | then its up to the church to let 2 individuals out of a mariiage |
| 16:36.53 | Taintedwisp | no more Im just sick of the other person bullshit |
| 16:36.56 | Lajla | True |
| 16:37.13 | Taintedwisp | if you are going to stop being married then you should have to have a fucking reason |
| 16:37.15 | Lajla | but they can just walk away and live apart without any legal repercussions, of course, the church can then expell them from their order if they so desire. |
| 16:37.45 | Lajla | And the church can refuse to marry them again to other people, of course. |
| 16:38.22 | Lajla | SEems like the best solution honestly, personally I have no ambition to let the protestant church recognise whatever marriages I might have so I see no reason to play by their rules, but if you want them to recognise it you have to play by their rules. |
| 16:39.12 | Taintedwisp | Yeah, But then the church would hold more power over the individuals, maybe simply have different kinds of legal marriages |
| 16:39.27 | Taintedwisp | a Christian marriage, Gay marriage, Etc |
| 16:39.28 | Lajla | Not at all, no one is forced to let the church recognise their marriages. |
| 16:39.54 | Lajla | If I want to found my own church and religion and marry people in it, then so be it. |
| 16:40.06 | Taintedwisp | yeah, but I wouldnt want christianity to get cheapend anymore then it is now, Plus think about all the parents who would get sick of the otherone and would just leave |
| 16:40.12 | Lajla | With ridiculous criteria if I want to, of course, then no one is going to seek for recognition of my religion of their marriage. |
| 16:40.40 | Lajla | If they get sick of the other one they have the freedom to leave honestly, it's a free world, you can hang out wherever you want. |
| 16:40.45 | Taintedwisp | ;If leaving is easier then that single parent rate would rise |
| 16:40.55 | Taintedwisp | Yeah but that shit fucks up the kids for quite some time |
| 16:41.02 | Taintedwisp | Trust me, I know that for sure |
| 16:41.12 | Lajla | So does mommy and daddy arguing and fighting with each other. |
| 16:41.17 | Taintedwisp | Not really |
| 16:41.20 | Taintedwisp | That shit is funny lawl |
| 16:41.31 | Taintedwisp | I always sat there and laughed at them... |
| 16:41.36 | Lajla | I've seen my father three times in my life basically, my mother choose to be a single parent, it never did anything weird for me. |
| 16:41.39 | Taintedwisp | That was when I was about 4-8 though |
| 16:41.48 | Lajla | Dad was little more than a gene supplier. |
| 16:42.01 | Taintedwisp | That sounds kinda creepy |
| 16:42.18 | Taintedwisp | my parents divorced but I say my dad every summer and every other weekend, and every holiday |
| 16:42.20 | Lajla | Not at all, it's reasonably common, women who want a child but at that point are not looking for a partner. |
| 16:42.57 | Taintedwisp | Yeah, but maybe you got lucky, or maybe not as I dont knwo you, but people could end up being fucked up and not knowing what to do without having that father figure in their lives |
| 16:42.58 | Lajla | I was always raised by a single parent and I never knew it any other way, I just met my dad 3 times out of a formality to know who's half of your chromosomes, can't say I feel a very deep connexion with him, I never really knew him. |
| 16:43.20 | Lajla | It kind of did touch me that he actually came to my graduation and was genuinely proud at someone whom he didn't really know I guess though. |
| 16:43.41 | Lajla | As far as I know, that seldom happens, where I live consciously single parents are quite common. |
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| 16:44.04 | Taintedwisp | well I did know mine, and well. But hes dead now, Honestly I believe that both parents should be forced to stay together until the children are of the age 16, then they may leave if they wish |
| 16:44.25 | Lajla | And how do you legally define staying together? |
| 16:44.34 | Lajla | Just say you have to stay x hours per week in the same house? |
| 16:44.36 | Taintedwisp | Living within 20 miles of each others |
| 16:44.42 | Lajla | As in, basically forbid milletary officers from having a kid? |
| 16:44.54 | Taintedwisp | Living within distance where the children could visit their other half |
| 16:44.55 | Lajla | Or forbidding journalists who travel around the world from having kids? |
| 16:45.04 | Ashamed | tained that may be a perfect dream but that could never be regulated |
| 16:45.05 | Taintedwisp | 2 things |
| 16:45.13 | Lajla | That essentially forbids milletary personell from having kids you know |
| 16:45.23 | Taintedwisp | First Military officers have a "Home state" and Home location that is not on base |
| 16:45.32 | Taintedwisp | All military do |
| 16:45.35 | Lajla | And they are still outside 20 miles most of the time. |
| 16:45.41 | Lajla | And there are other jobs, like people who do wildlife photography |
| 16:45.48 | Lajla | Or airline personel. |
| 16:45.54 | Taintedwisp | My older brother lived in virginia, but was taxed as a north carolinian |
| 16:46.07 | Lajla | The father of a friend of mine is a UN ambassador, he's not exactly at home often. |
| 16:46.23 | Taintedwisp | Well, they will ahve to make a choice... take thier family with them or be give it up |
| 16:46.27 | Lajla | So you mean having residence 20 miles of each other? |
| 16:46.46 | Taintedwisp | It was their choice to have a kid, they should be forced to live with taht choice |
| 16:46.59 | Taintedwisp | yeah having a residence 20 miles |
| 16:47.03 | Taintedwisp | their main residence |
| 16:47.03 | Lajla | Taintedwisp, so what you are saying is that if you are a milletary and you get a kid per accident and you don't want to abort you are to be fired? |
| 16:47.10 | Taintedwisp | Doesnt mean that cant go off for years at a time |
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| 16:47.48 | Taintedwisp | No but there are ways to change your Home location, one of my older bros friends location was at another friends home address |
| 16:47.51 | Lajla | What if you just have a residence together but basically don't speak to each other again. |
| 16:48.05 | Taintedwisp | Never said you had to speak to each other |
| 16:48.09 | Lajla | I mean, there are infinite ways to cheat this system, introducing it would solve nothing and just create an administrative mess. |
| 16:48.18 | Lajla | You mean the kids just have to be able to visit/ |
| 16:48.21 | Lajla | What if the kids don't want to? |
| 16:48.29 | Taintedwisp | if 2 parents dont speak to each other they are shit parents, My parents hated each other, yet they still spoke for the sake of my brothers and I |
| 16:48.31 | Lajla | What if the kid doesnm't like mommy and just only wants to hang out with daddy? |
| 16:48.45 | Taintedwisp | Yeah the kids need to have the ability to visit the other one |
| 16:48.53 | Lajla | What if the kids don't want to. |
| 16:48.55 | Taintedwisp | meaning that if they want to, its there for them |
| 16:48.59 | Taintedwisp | Then they just dont... |
| 16:49.07 | Lajla | So then they are just living close there pointlessly? |
| 16:49.14 | Lajla | What if the kid wants to and the parent doesn't want to? |
| 16:49.22 | Taintedwisp | No they are living there for the possibility |
| 16:49.32 | Taintedwisp | Well the parent is shit out of luck |
| 16:49.37 | Taintedwisp | its the kids childhood |
| 16:49.44 | Taintedwisp | not the parents |
| 16:49.50 | Taintedwisp | Its their midlife |
| 16:50.01 | Lajla | I think the kid is, I don't think a lot of kids want to visit a parent who doesn want to have them anyway, it's not going to be amusing for the kid in that respect. |
| 16:50.07 | Taintedwisp | PLUS it would force parents to think before having that accident |
| 16:50.16 | Lajla | And again, still, waht if I take a residence closeby but de facto just live on the other side of the world? |
| 16:50.30 | Lajla | Condoms break, that's hardly anyone's fault. |
| 16:50.36 | Taintedwisp | well there are numerous ways.... |
| 16:51.03 | Taintedwisp | Well still, and though im not saying im not guilty of it, sex isnt something that should jsut be done for fun in the first place |
| 16:52.55 | Taintedwisp | and Lajla Im sure that this would never happen so its nothing to worry about |
| 16:53.20 | Taintedwisp | and I'm sure there are 100s of things that would break and fuck up and idiots who try to find a loophole |
| 16:54.07 | Lajla | Not at all, it's very easy to exploit the loophole, you get a residence within 20 miles, just live somewhere else in practice, really easy. |
| 16:54.16 | Lajla | And sex just for fun is well ... fun. |
| 16:54.44 | Taintedwisp | yeah but that could be simply be fixed by taxing the fuck out of those people |
| 16:54.45 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 16:55.10 | Taintedwisp | You move away and you pay up to 80% of your pay check to child support |
| 16:55.15 | Taintedwisp | up from 50 |
| 16:55.16 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 16:55.30 | Taintedwisp | So it would break the shit out of them lol |
| 16:57.15 | Lajla | And again, how do you define 'moving away' legally? |
| 16:57.33 | Lajla | If my permanent residence is in place X, but in practice I am 90% of the time with my new girlfriend in place y on the other side of the country |
| 16:57.38 | Lajla | How do you legally define that? |
| 16:59.06 | Hookah604 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VKWLC87Uzw LOL I have to post this everywhere:D |
| 17:00.02 | Taintedwisp | o the tax on a per majority of month |
| 17:00.25 | Taintedwisp | so if you are gone for 16/30 days of a month you pay the extra... |
| 17:00.29 | Lajla | Taintedwisp, I don't think the government keeps track of where you move and go I mean. |
| 17:00.43 | Lajla | Yes, and the government cannot possibly keep track of every citiizen where they move and stand |
| 17:01.03 | Lajla | And I doubt that if everyone got a receiver implemanted many people would make, quite justified, complaints about the Orwellian nature of this idea. |
| 17:01.07 | Lajla | implanted* |
| 17:01.08 | Taintedwisp | actually they have it all cataloged, and with computers it could be inserted intoa data base that alerts. |
| 17:01.15 | Lajla | They don't |
| 17:01.32 | Taintedwisp | they have where you mail goes catalogged, |
| 17:01.35 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 17:01.35 | Lajla | The government does not know that a friend of mine slept over here last week. |
| 17:01.50 | Lajla | Her mail still went to her own address where she's residenced. |
| 17:01.58 | Taintedwisp | yeah but I was thinking about out of country type deals |
| 17:02.06 | Lajla | I'm talking about just being residenced at your own home and just hanging out with your new girlfriend all the time. |
| 17:02.23 | Lajla | Out of country is a bit more than the 20 miles you're suggesting. |
| 17:02.45 | Lajla | If my official residence is in Utrecht but I hang out all the time with my new boyfriend in Groningen the government does not, and cannot know that. |
| 17:03.57 | Taintedwisp | okay okay whatever, I get it its flawed, but still the point stands, that there should be some kind of law that makes it easier on the 2nd parent if they just live closer to the first |
| 17:06.52 | Ashamed | :( beautiful mountains are on fire right now |
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| 17:11.12 | RandomPersonNumb | lawl |
| 17:12.15 | MostAwesomeEver | lol |
| 17:12.21 | MostAwesomeEver | now I feel boss |
| 17:15.29 | Hookah604 | hmm this darkened minimap in 1.5 is really fucked up. I have now really no idea what is causing it. I checked the old version of my map and it has that too and if I start it in 1.4 than the minimap works right. |
| 17:16.52 | MostAwesomeEver | lol |
| 17:16.57 | MostAwesomeEver | Mine isnt Dark. |
| 17:17.03 | MostAwesomeEver | Check your lighting |
| 17:17.21 | MostAwesomeEver | Now if you dont atleast have one regions lighting in an area it becomes pitch black in game |
| 17:17.28 | MostAwesomeEver | Well not pitch black but its very dark |
| 17:17.29 | Hookah604 | yeah my other 3 map works right, what lightning? |
| 17:17.40 | MostAwesomeEver | in 1.5 there is a lighting editor in the terrain editor |
| 17:17.43 | MostAwesomeEver | its the lightbulb |
| 17:17.48 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 17:18.11 | MostAwesomeNever | lawl |
| 17:18.12 | Hookah604 | well my map is in space with no terrain.... |
| 17:18.17 | Hookah604 | maybe thats why |
| 17:18.22 | MostAwesomeNever | yeah but it still requires Lighting |
| 17:18.26 | MostAwesomeNever | yeah thats probably why lol |
| 17:18.39 | MostAwesomeNever | You can also go to the edit? I think it is, and get a High res Map |
| 17:18.45 | MostAwesomeNever | High Res Mini Map |
| 17:20.12 | Hookah604 | that didnt change anything |
| 17:20.16 | MostAwesomeNever | damn |
| 17:20.22 | MostAwesomeNever | yeah maybe its because its in space |
| 17:20.33 | MostAwesomeNever | I could make you a mini map... I guess |
| 17:20.34 | MostAwesomeNever | lol |
| 17:20.37 | MostAwesomeNever | But it would be weird |
| 17:20.52 | MostAwesomeNever | you use a skybox right? |
| 17:21.00 | MostAwesomeNever | Which one? |
| 17:21.17 | Hookah604 | yeah and I use randomly generated map. So you couldnt make minimap:D |
| 17:21.25 | MostAwesomeNever | Take a picture of the skybox, from a strait down, |
| 17:21.38 | MostAwesomeNever | then you use that and it will overlay the units on it |
| 17:21.48 | MostAwesomeNever | set transparency to about 40% |
| 17:22.15 | MostAwesomeNever | I did some test with this, and it looked great with a dragon ball z minimap |
| 17:22.28 | MostAwesomeNever | lol, but it wasnt good for my map |
| 17:22.32 | MostAwesomeNever | nor did it make nay sense |
| 17:22.38 | Hookah604 | yeah... |
| 17:22.43 | Hookah604 | I need minimap:D |
| 17:22.52 | MostAwesomeNever | lol |
| 17:23.19 | MostAwesomeNever | lol, yeah I found that out, but I was never able to put it to an actual use lol |
| 17:23.30 | MostAwesomeNever | I use the componates list and alter that minimap file |
| 17:24.22 | MostAwesomeNever | also drag and drop into the componates list to lag free and bug free add mass amounts of models |
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| 17:32.15 | Vailreth | i do not get why you can add multple units to a morph ability |
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| 17:33.56 | push | Anyone know the condition to check if an integer has "passed" in response to an integer changing event? |
| 17:43.11 | push | was not has rather |
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| 17:46.22 | Taintedwisp | OKAY GUYS!!!!!! |
| 17:46.26 | Taintedwisp | Its alright |
| 17:46.29 | Taintedwisp | the world is fine... |
| 17:46.35 | Taintedwisp | I made some sweet tea |
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| 18:01.04 | push | anyone here? |
| 18:01.30 | Taintedwisp | nope |
| 18:01.32 | Taintedwisp | emptys |
| 18:01.35 | Taintedwisp | Im a ghost |
| 18:02.03 | push | hey wisps maybe you can help |
| 18:02.05 | Taintedwisp | what ya need if its a Beginnger to intermdiate problem I might be able to thelp |
| 18:02.39 | push | whats the term to use to check if an integer was passed in response to an integer changing event? |
| 18:02.52 | Taintedwisp | and its triggers.... |
| 18:02.55 | push | yup |
| 18:03.03 | Taintedwisp | Give me a sec |
| 18:03.12 | Taintedwisp | I think I have a Trigger that actually does this lemme look it up |
| 18:03.22 | Taintedwisp | <----Data editor |
| 18:03.24 | Taintedwisp | lalw |
| 18:03.49 | push | i mean if the number moves from 9-11, i don't think =10 will catch it |
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| 18:04.14 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 18:05.32 | Taintedwisp | Sorry dont have any, and I am shit with triggers, I could guess but that would most likely steer you wrong |
| 18:05.39 | Taintedwisp | Hey Vailreth you there? or Ahli |
| 18:05.54 | Vailreth | whats needed? |
| 18:07.04 | Taintedwisp | Could you help Push? do you know triggers? |
| 18:07.13 | Vailreth | abit |
| 18:07.24 | Taintedwisp | [14:02] <push> whats the term to use to check if an integer was passed in response to an integer changing event? |
| 18:07.31 | Taintedwisp | [14:03] <push> i mean if the number moves from 9-11, i don't think =10 will catch it |
| 18:08.02 | Vailreth | i can only help if i know the net effect trying to be created |
| 18:08.56 | push | event is triggers from change in units kills |
| 18:09.06 | push | send alert of it does over 10 |
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| 18:09.19 | push | kills can just by 2 or 3s tho |
| 18:09.25 | push | jump srry not just |
| 18:09.54 | Taintedwisp | So what I am hearing, is that the 1 unit could count as multiple kills right? |
| 18:10.11 | push | yup |
| 18:10.22 | push | acutally i think im just unit dies as event |
| 18:10.25 | Taintedwisp | You could use the => 10 option |
| 18:10.29 | Taintedwisp | That would catch 10 and over |
| 18:10.48 | push | then setting a variable accord to the pts a units gets from the kills |
| 18:11.01 | push | should catch only when it goes over |
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| 18:11.05 | push | at any time |
| 18:11.15 | push | but not if it is already over |
| 18:11.26 | Taintedwisp | yeah sorry i wasnt of much help, I really suck at triggers lol |
| 18:11.31 | push | lol |
| 18:11.32 | push | np |
| 18:12.05 | push | maybe tainted can help uel my rage - anyone else think this tdhsst is a pos |
| 18:12.09 | Vailreth | so you want it to fire every time more then ten units is killed only if 10 or more units have been killed? |
| 18:12.26 | push | sort of |
| 18:12.50 | push | i have one trigger for 12 players |
| 18:13.13 | push | so each player has a variable to record kills |
| 18:13.23 | push | or rather kill pts |
| 18:13.43 | Vailreth | what is the diffrence? |
| 18:13.51 | push | difference? |
| 18:14.02 | Vailreth | i do not spell well |
| 18:14.06 | Vailreth | but yes |
| 18:14.18 | push | no no what difference are you asking lol? |
| 18:14.39 | Vailreth | the difference between kills and kill points |
| 18:14.51 | Taintedwisp | Some kills count toward multiple points |
| 18:15.03 | Taintedwisp | Say marine is 1 kill point an dimmortal could be 2 kill points |
| 18:15.05 | Taintedwisp | right? |
| 18:15.10 | push | yup |
| 18:15.18 | Taintedwisp | AND FUCK!!!! |
| 18:15.26 | Taintedwisp | part of my car is laying on the gound... |
| 18:15.31 | push | lmao |
| 18:15.39 | Taintedwisp | Great, looks like I will be going to the mechanics today.... |
| 18:15.44 | push | only the tires i hope |
| 18:15.48 | Taintedwisp | nope |
| 18:15.55 | Taintedwisp | Some big fucking plastic peice is hanging off... |
| 18:16.04 | Vailreth | ah ok you will still need a Variable to track the kills them selves. |
| 18:16.34 | push | ?? |
| 18:16.38 | push | i think i have that as well |
| 18:16.42 | Vailreth | ah. |
| 18:16.47 | push | but how does that factor in? |
| 18:17.25 | Vailreth | well from what i understand you wanted to send an alert when ten units die, or is it when ten points worth of units die? |
| 18:17.38 | push | 10 pts worth ty |
| 18:17.49 | Vailreth | ah |
| 18:18.40 | push | currently the actions mod a varialbe (kill pts) then check to see if it equals 10 |
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| 18:18.47 | push | should be has passed 10 |
| 18:19.25 | push | guess i could check at 9 or something then mod but still |
| 18:20.03 | push | like how would i check if it was 8 then modified by 2 |
| 18:22.00 | push | oh max modify is 3 if it helps |
| 18:23.36 | push | fuck i got it i think |
| 18:23.53 | push | check the sum of the previous integer value plus the change |
| 18:24.13 | Taintedwisp | Always fucking something.... |
| 18:24.26 | Taintedwisp | So tired of this stupid fucking bullshit around here.... |
| 18:24.33 | push | ?? |
| 18:24.52 | push | sup wisp? |
| 18:25.11 | Taintedwisp | Fucking car is fucked up, and cant get my dickway brother to bring my jack back over here so I can fix it... |
| 18:25.31 | Taintedwisp | Lazy bastard, I drove his stupid ass around for the past 4 months and he cant do one fucking thing for me.... |
| 18:25.34 | push | car not have one in it? |
| 18:25.38 | Taintedwisp | It does |
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| 18:25.51 | Taintedwisp | But its under his Girlfriends car, because I brought it over to him... |
| 18:25.56 | push | lol |
| 18:26.15 | Vailreth | ouch man |
| 18:26.25 | Taintedwisp | Now hes got his car back, and its too much for him to drive 4 miles down the fucking road |
| 18:26.42 | Taintedwisp | I would walk to go get it, but it weiges like 60 lbs its one of the mechanics jacks |
| 18:26.54 | Taintedwisp | Not carrying that shit 4 miles |
| 18:26.58 | Taintedwisp | 100 ft is too much lol |
| 18:27.05 | Vailreth | right |
| 18:27.46 | Taintedwisp | But yeah, I drove his ass around everywhere, and now that I have to go somewhere, hes like well ill bring it around 5 or 6.... hes not even doing anything... just watching cartoons. |
| 18:27.59 | push | looks like you need come better friends there |
| 18:28.08 | Taintedwisp | not a friend, hes my brother... |
| 18:28.13 | push | lmao |
| 18:28.29 | Vailreth | yeah family can be like that |
| 18:29.34 | Taintedwisp | Got dang though, you would think that after I wasted atleast 3 tanks of gas on his shit for college, his computer repair, grocery store cigarettes, that he would be able to drive fucking 4 miles... |
| 18:29.55 | Taintedwisp | oh and running him 30 miles to go meet up with his GF at a car lot too |
| 18:29.58 | Taintedwisp | 5 times... |
| 18:30.16 | Taintedwisp | and a 97 Camaro doesnt get much to the gallon... |
| 18:30.17 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 18:30.21 | Taintedwisp | 96* |
| 18:31.28 | Taintedwisp | Between him, and my younger brother... both just fuck me over all the time... my little brother was the jackass who wanted to shake me and pull on the wheel to get me to look at a fucking bug that hit the windsheild and make me do a 1080 ino a tree...... and fuck up my car |
| 18:31.36 | Taintedwisp | I hate being the middle brother.... |
| 18:32.05 | Vailreth | im gald im an only child |
| 18:32.51 | Taintedwisp | Its sickening, One everyone looks up to, so Im always inferior to him according to everyone, and everyone just unconditionally loves my little brother no matter how much stupid shit he does... |
| 18:32.58 | Taintedwisp | I really dont understand any of it... |
| 18:33.24 | Vailreth | yeah thats how it goes. |
| 18:33.39 | Taintedwisp | I'm.... pretty much ignored.... |
| 18:34.00 | Taintedwisp | Not that I really care... but still its annoying, when Neither of them does anything to help anyone... |
| 18:34.10 | Taintedwisp | and I do it without a single complaint... |
| 18:34.28 | Vailreth | you really should stip doing that |
| 18:34.38 | push | damn looks like i have to compare the change plus the original as well as the original being under the change |
| 18:34.39 | Taintedwisp | Also If I say something, no one believes me, and if my older bro says something its law... |
| 18:34.40 | Vailreth | atop* |
| 18:35.03 | Vailreth | stop* |
| 18:35.12 | Taintedwisp | Nah I'm fine with helping others... it doesnt bother me, but dammit when I need someone to drive a few fuckin miles, then just do it... |
| 18:35.39 | Vailreth | we are pretty much stoppinghelping people atleast family |
| 18:35.41 | Taintedwisp | I call him up and he tells me to take off his trash, when I tell him I can, he tells me he will be over at 5 or 6 to get the truck... he will bring it then... |
| 18:35.59 | Taintedwisp | Cant* |
| 18:36.47 | Taintedwisp | well I guess, I should just put it behind me, No point in crying over something so minor, ill go job hunting tomorrow... |
| 18:36.56 | Vailreth | right |
| 18:37.07 | push | what do you do for a living wisp? |
| 18:37.15 | Taintedwisp | Nothing... thats the fucking problem lol |
| 18:37.23 | Taintedwisp | I like in a rural area... there isnt much jobs |
| 18:37.26 | Vailreth | and i am crazy for a living ... |
| 18:37.27 | Taintedwisp | its 20 miles to the nearest town |
| 18:37.55 | Taintedwisp | and the towns(3) none of them have available jobs hardly at all the Unemployment rates for those towns is at like 29% |
| 18:37.58 | Taintedwisp | 19% |
| 18:38.07 | Taintedwisp | Which is Double the national average |
| 18:38.13 | push | ouch where the hell do you live? |
| 18:38.33 | Taintedwisp | NC, Between Wadesboro, Monroe, and Oakboro |
| 18:38.41 | Taintedwisp | Black Trash town,USA |
| 18:38.52 | Taintedwisp | Nothing but a bunch of Hood rats around here.... |
| 18:39.04 | push | lol |
| 18:39.37 | Taintedwisp | Its worse then living in a white trash place, because here there is only about 2% of the populace that is white |
| 18:39.42 | Taintedwisp | 88% black |
| 18:39.45 | Taintedwisp | 10% mexican |
| 18:40.02 | push | wow really |
| 18:40.19 | Taintedwisp | yeah... and I gotta say, there is nothing "Respectable" about the people who live around here |
| 18:40.20 | push | i visit west coast lots its insane the number of mexican |
| 18:40.35 | Taintedwisp | This is east Coast, it isnt much better... |
| 18:40.36 | push | in calgary myself |
| 18:40.44 | Taintedwisp | In the 5 counties I have lived in |
| 18:40.48 | Vailreth | i live i white trash redneckville... mostly pale skinded rednecks and trailor trash with the 25% illegals and so on |
| 18:40.53 | Taintedwisp | there is either Black trash, or stuck up white people |
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| 18:41.30 | Taintedwisp | Rich whites who act like a silver spoon was shoved up their ass, or black people who think anyone with the IQ over 100 is a fucking genious |
| 18:41.38 | push | just like tdhsst |
| 18:41.53 | Taintedwisp | What is tdhsst? i thought it was mispelling at first |
| 18:41.58 | push | the stuck up part that is |
| 18:42.09 | push | idiot new member |
| 18:42.28 | Taintedwisp | oh |
| 18:42.44 | Taintedwisp | Well I am considered and idiot member LAWL |
| 18:42.51 | Taintedwisp | because I say some fucked up out of the way shit |
| 18:42.54 | Taintedwisp | on purpose.... |
| 18:42.58 | push | check the new cinematic forum if you like to rage |
| 18:43.13 | Taintedwisp | I dont rage, I just start them and argue them ... |
| 18:43.14 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 18:43.14 | push | no no this is a whole new low |
| 18:43.50 | Taintedwisp | I was debating earler why being gay was a Mental disorder... and why I hate black people, well atleast the ones that live around here |
| 18:44.00 | push | new member with absoulte no clue, making every comment he can, can barrely trigger something longer than 5 words even with 5 people givving him the answer. |
| 18:44.28 | Taintedwisp | Anyone who thinks your a fucking genious because you can put music on CDS is a fucking idiot... |
| 18:44.39 | Taintedwisp | that was when I learned that people in the "Hood" where morons |
| 18:44.42 | push | lol |
| 18:44.44 | Taintedwisp | Were" |
| 18:44.56 | push | they're taking to make that shit illegal up here |
| 18:44.59 | push | fucking bs |
| 18:45.17 | Taintedwisp | Oh lord you should have seen it when I put Mortal Kombat and a Genesis Emulator on a flash drive |
| 18:45.39 | Taintedwisp | People were paying me 25$ to add it to a flash drive that they gave me... |
| 18:45.48 | push | lol i had pokemon crystal on a 5g ipod video |
| 18:46.04 | Taintedwisp | I had CSS on an Ipod BEAT THAT!!! |
| 18:46.05 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 18:46.11 | push | which one lol |
| 18:46.14 | Taintedwisp | actually it was Doom with a CSS skin |
| 18:46.18 | push | i have editor on iphone |
| 18:46.22 | push | BEATEN |
| 18:46.37 | Taintedwisp | I had Warcraft 2 on PSP |
| 18:46.39 | Taintedwisp | plus editor |
| 18:46.40 | Taintedwisp | Lol |
| 18:46.44 | Taintedwisp | Dos emulation with PSP |
| 18:46.48 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 18:46.49 | Taintedwisp | And If thats not enough |
| 18:46.59 | push | vist pspiso much? |
| 18:47.32 | Taintedwisp | I added Razor 1911 starcraft and Halo trial to the Schools computer network(WHite school before black school), and in the computer programming class we played LAN halo and LAN starcraft |
| 18:47.47 | Taintedwisp | and on the last day I was at that school I crashed their servers |
| 18:47.49 | Taintedwisp | Good enough? |
| 18:47.52 | push | lol |
| 18:48.08 | Taintedwisp | 24 man Halo Trial on lan... was good times |
| 18:48.08 | push | well im listen to metroid prime 2 theme sounds right now |
| 18:48.10 | push | tops |
| 18:48.23 | Taintedwisp | I am listing to Portal 2 End theme... |
| 18:48.30 | push | lol |
| 18:48.48 | Taintedwisp | people just be mad, because I cruise through town with All I do Is STIM playing out my Radio |
| 18:49.16 | Taintedwisp | but it still pissed me off when I outsmarted the computer teacher at the black school... |
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| 18:49.38 | Taintedwisp | How do you get a job not knowing basic C+ in a computer programming class |
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| 18:51.05 | Vailreth | i hate to say this but i see less qualifed minorites getting jobs they are well not qualified for because they are minorites...not saying they are not qualified becuase of being a minority |
| 18:52.06 | Vailreth | but that because they are a minority they are getting a job that they are not qualifed for |
| 18:52.35 | Vailreth | yet im certain that qualified people of every race are being overlooked |
| 18:53.11 | Vailreth | damn that all makes me look racist and i am not i swear |
| 18:53.17 | Vailreth | i hate every one equally |
| 18:53.45 | Vailreth | reguardless of color, religion or any of that |
| 18:54.27 | Vailreth | er i CAN hate.. |
| 18:54.38 | Vailreth | whistles ... |
| 18:56.02 | Vailreth | i hope i have not offended... |
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| 19:00.39 | Taintedwisp | Yeah its true |
| 19:00.46 | Taintedwisp | sorry cookin ramen noodles lawl |
| 19:00.51 | Taintedwisp | thats a meal for a king |
| 19:01.00 | Vailreth | ah |
| 19:01.06 | Taintedwisp | HEY AND DONT STEAL MY SHIT |
| 19:01.10 | Vailreth | i like ramen |
| 19:01.12 | Taintedwisp | I came up with hateing everyone equally |
| 19:01.13 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:01.19 | Vailreth | heh |
| 19:01.42 | Taintedwisp | I was Player hater of the year from 2008-2011. This yeah I'm a shoe in for hater of the year |
| 19:02.00 | Taintedwisp | LOL chapelle show |
| 19:02.12 | Taintedwisp | http://paste.paste.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/cinematics/37869-cutscene-editor-tutorial/#p1 |
| 19:02.13 | Taintedwisp | Sweet |
| 19:02.24 | Taintedwisp | I wanna learn this part of the editor |
| 19:02.30 | Taintedwisp | Hope it comes easy to me, Unlike triggers |
| 19:03.35 | Vailreth | if you have ver animated in a 3d program it should be familar |
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| 19:14.59 | Ahli | hmm, it looks super easy to start the cutscene in your map... |
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| 19:22.03 | Vailreth | yeah the cutscene editor looks like the animation package of a 3d program |
| 19:22.37 | Taintedwisp | nice |
| 19:22.50 | Taintedwisp | I am trying to learn blender... well tried for about 20 minutes 1 week ago lawl |
| 19:22.58 | Taintedwisp | But yeah I wanna master the Cutscene editor |
| 19:23.13 | Vailreth | me too i want to do machinima |
| 19:23.35 | Taintedwisp | I would like to do some machinima, but I also want to do it for maps |
| 19:24.10 | Taintedwisp | I am thinking about doing a player haters ball lol |
| 19:24.16 | Taintedwisp | Starcraft Haters Ball 2012 |
| 19:24.17 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 19:24.55 | Taintedwisp | I think that nigga probe with his cannon rush is the most diabolical hater this side of the missisipi |
| 19:25.03 | Taintedwisp | And mine will have lots of bad language |
| 19:25.03 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:25.05 | Taintedwisp | Lots |
| 19:25.28 | Taintedwisp | Sometimes Distasteful amounts |
| 19:25.37 | Vailreth | heh |
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| 19:26.22 | Taintedwisp | Just start a series of the StarHaters, Lol its going to be units hating on other units |
| 19:26.40 | Taintedwisp | Dear Roach your attacks against my tanks hit about as hard as I do to your mother... |
| 19:27.31 | Taintedwisp | Marine Marauder?, More like psistorm and gone bitch!!! |
| 19:27.59 | Taintedwisp | Yeah I dunno, I do want to do a small series though |
| 19:28.14 | Taintedwisp | But first I need to learn the editor |
| 19:28.20 | Taintedwisp | the cutscene part that is |
| 19:29.23 | Taintedwisp | Or maybe make some Unit videos |
| 19:40.36 | Taintedwisp | WELL Who wants to take some bets.... |
| 19:40.45 | Taintedwisp | WILL THE ARCADE COME OUT TOMORROW |
| 19:40.47 | Taintedwisp | !!!!!! |
| 19:40.57 | Vailreth | nah |
| 19:41.02 | Taintedwisp | Will the beta end tomorrow |
| 19:41.04 | Taintedwisp | .... |
| 19:41.15 | Taintedwisp | The sweepstakes will end, so will the beta end |
| 19:42.15 | Taintedwisp | My bets are that the HoTS beta Will start on the 15th - 20th, thats my Best guess |
| 19:42.25 | Taintedwisp | But will the WoL Arcade beta end? thats the question |
| 19:43.04 | Taintedwisp | Did you know that I have gotten 14 Mist of Pandaria beta invites? |
| 19:43.08 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 19:43.25 | Taintedwisp | lol |
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| 19:54.19 | Eimtr | does anyone have an idea, how to enable the terrain and pathing of a Story-Mode map with Story terrain that is no terrain at all? |
| 19:54.20 | Taintedwisp | HATE HATE HATE HATE |
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| 19:54.52 | Taintedwisp | Damn connection Reset |
| 19:55.00 | Eimtr | does anyone have an idea, how to enable the terrain and pathing of a Story-Mode map with Story terrain that is no terrain at all? |
| 19:55.35 | Taintedwisp | Hmmm, I'm Not understanding what you mean by Story-Mode map? you mean Campaign Dependencies? |
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| 19:56.21 | Eimtr | I mean TStory01.SC2Map, it's the Hyperion map and I just want to enable terrain and pathink in it, the layers are blank |
| 19:57.22 | Taintedwisp | Thats Tychus Story 01 right? |
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| 19:57.53 | Taintedwisp_ | DAMN CONnectION!!! |
| 19:57.54 | Taintedwisp_ | lol |
| 19:58.01 | Taintedwisp_ | Thats tychus story right? |
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| 19:59.06 | Taintedwisp_ | Okay I found it |
| 19:59.09 | Taintedwisp_ | Taking a look |
| 19:59.14 | Eimtr_ | it isd Mar Sara Bar, Hyperion, Char cinematics on it |
| 19:59.22 | Taintedwisp_ | Yeah Im taking a look |
| 20:00.08 | Eimtr_ | I can say I tried saving as SC2Components and adding the trigger files xml and the other one from another map since the map has no trigger files but nothing works, and the Story terrain set seems normal data like all others |
| 20:00.10 | Taintedwisp_ | Its acting like a mod file |
| 20:00.48 | Eimtr_ | is there a way to make it act like a normal one? because it is playable, I did that I just need to enable pathing |
| 20:00.59 | Taintedwisp_ | yeah give me one sec |
| 20:01.31 | Taintedwisp_ | maybe convert it to a mod, and Import it into a fresh map with no dependencies |
| 20:02.03 | Taintedwisp_ | BAh |
| 20:02.03 | Taintedwisp_ | lol |
| 20:02.13 | Eimtr_ | because as a space map i dont want units to walk around outside corridors and in space |
| 20:02.58 | Taintedwisp_ | ok give me 1 sec |
| 20:02.58 | Eimtr_ | it;s already using a Mod not sure it can happen 'convert to mod' |
| 20:04.10 | Taintedwisp_ | same it as a .sc2map, and rename the extension to .mod |
| 20:04.18 | Taintedwisp_ | then try to apply it to a new map and see if it works |
| 20:04.24 | Taintedwisp_ | give it all the normal dependencies |
| 20:04.48 | Eimtr_ | what about all units on the map and this map already uses a Mod, so a Mod using a Mod? |
| 20:05.19 | Taintedwisp_ | yeah the other dependencies will still be in there, so it might work |
| 20:05.22 | Taintedwisp_ | its worth a try |
| 20:06.28 | Eimtr_ | ok trying it but I do it all cause I need another way to path and not allow units to move outside |
| 20:06.29 | Vailreth | this thing is too damn biggy |
| 20:06.31 | Vailreth | buggy |
| 20:06.35 | Eimtr_ | so if there are other ways through doodads or data |
| 20:06.46 | Eimtr_ | let me 1stly try with as u say a mod |
| 20:07.39 | Taintedwisp_ | just renaming instead of .sc2map to .sc2mod |
| 20:07.45 | Taintedwisp_ | so its sc2mod not mod |
| 20:08.39 | Eimtr_ | So far I was able to place my own units, enable my own way of moving between the models aka Rooms, moved all under the same Section where I can freely use triggers, maybe allow reunning Lost Viking from it, Jukebox, all is editable I even added more rooms |
| 20:08.43 | Eimtr_ | yes currently trying |
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| 20:09.28 | Vailreth | i almost had a cutscene done |
| 20:09.38 | Vailreth | and it crashed before i could save it |
| 20:11.04 | Eimtr_ | I am not doing a cinematic but a freely movable place between the rooms, so far all works, afterall I wiped out all Blizz triggers |
| 20:11.27 | Eimtr_ | but I dont want units to move outside corridors since all is 1 ground and no cliffs and i cant use pathing |
| 20:12.00 | Eimtr_ | Ok using a Mod didnt help - it cannot bring any placed units on the mao but also some data that I had within this Map that i saved as Mod are not there |
| 20:12.04 | Taintedwisp_ | Just keep trying, is all I can tell you |
| 20:12.07 | Taintedwisp_ | Yeah same for me |
| 20:12.30 | Taintedwisp_ | Just exit that, and open the original |
| 20:12.41 | Taintedwisp_ | And keep trying |
| 20:13.04 | Eimtr_ | trying what? I think this doesnt work |
| 20:13.18 | Taintedwisp_ | Trying to get the Terrain on the original |
| 20:14.04 | Vailreth | whats going on? |
| 20:14.06 | Eimtr_ | aha yeah but Idk how, I tried changing the Terrain, adding textures, even adding terrain files from other map to somehow enable terrain paletet but so far no |
| 20:14.22 | Eimtr_ | The TStory01.SC2Map has terrain and pathinf disabled |
| 20:14.25 | Taintedwisp_ | http://paste.paste.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/terrain/30672-enable-terrain/ |
| 20:14.29 | Taintedwisp_ | I found that |
| 20:15.55 | Vailreth | why would you need terrain ? |
| 20:16.07 | Taintedwisp_ | He wants to make a walkable space |
| 20:16.08 | Taintedwisp_ | lol |
| 20:16.16 | Taintedwisp_ | But doesnt want poeple to walk outside the ship |
| 20:16.24 | Eimtr_ | nope the opposite - not allow walking in sapce ^^ |
| 20:16.38 | Vailreth | and pathing cant be used why? |
| 20:16.38 | Ahli | draw pathing on the ground? |
| 20:16.40 | Eimtr_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:16.51 | Eimtr_ | because pathing is disabled on that map |
| 20:16.58 | Eimtr_ | now checking the link Taintedwisp |
| 20:17.20 | Vailreth | why is pathing disabled? |
| 20:17.51 | Eimtr_ | idk lol the TStory map has disabled pathing maybe as tainted said cause it was a Mod but more like - Blizz disabled the terrain now let me see if i can restore it |
| 20:18.31 | Vailreth | the reason that map has no trrain is because it houses the sets used in the (story parts ) of the campagin |
| 20:19.05 | Vailreth | its where all of the story cutscenes and such take place |
| 20:19.23 | Taintedwisp_ | yup |
| 20:19.24 | Taintedwisp_ | lol |
| 20:19.33 | Taintedwisp_ | im doing a small test |
| 20:19.39 | Eimtr_ | yes but it must have been dsabled like when starting the ,ap there is an option to disable it |
| 20:19.42 | Taintedwisp_ | Emphasis on the test part |
| 20:19.51 | Taintedwisp_ | I am deleting all triggers to see if they appear |
| 20:19.59 | Ahli | I was surprised when I first saw that the stuff during the missions is actually a map ;D |
| 20:20.13 | Taintedwisp_ | its not done through triggers |
| 20:20.41 | Taintedwisp_ | But removing the 500+ triggers and restoring them lags the editor LAWl |
| 20:22.07 | Eimtr_ | Yes, all models just need to be unticked to Disable model on placement and all models are there, you only need to add your own triggers to move between the models and run the Lost Viking with no going back |
| 20:22.40 | Vailreth | i still do not understand what you are trying to do |
| 20:22.47 | Eimtr_ | and remove all the poinltess 500 triggers, they evevn use Section and i wondered why i couldnt delete triggers - case all were at different Sections |
| 20:23.02 | Eimtr_ | enable terrain, so that I can enable pathing layer |
| 20:23.09 | Vailreth | why> |
| 20:23.12 | Eimtr_ | so that I can path and make unwalkable some places |
| 20:23.33 | Vailreth | why not just make a new map with that stuff and use the campain dependencies |
| 20:24.19 | Eimtr_ | because adding all that models and the way they are ordered there wont be good, also I inly need pathing no need for a whole new mapo |
| 20:25.01 | Eimtr_ | cause everything else works as i want |
| 20:25.53 | Vailreth | i still have no clue what you are trying to do |
| 20:26.12 | Eimtr_ | enable pathing so that I can disallow ground units to walk freely in space |
| 20:26.26 | Vailreth | yes but why? whats the point? |
| 20:26.46 | Eimtr_ | so that units dont walk outside places they are not supposed to go>? |
| 20:26.53 | Vailreth | what ever |
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| 20:28.38 | Ashamed | lawl |
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| 20:28.58 | Hookah604 | Steve Jobs sucks. |
| 20:29.05 | Ashamed | agreed |
| 20:29.24 | Eimtr_ | taintedd? |
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| 20:35.37 | Taintedwisp_ | ? |
| 20:35.49 | Eimtr_ | TaintedWisp it worked, I got terrain, thanks :) U pro |
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| 20:35.59 | Taintedwisp | Okay back, had to feed the animals |
| 20:36.04 | Taintedwisp | What you need Emir |
| 20:36.09 | Taintedwisp | Emitr |
| 20:36.12 | Eimtr_ | But its entirely screwed up, I will try doing that with a New Map that has the same size and bounds |
| 20:36.40 | Eimtr_ | otherwise it worked getting terrain layer and pathing layer |
| 20:36.53 | Taintedwisp | WHITE POWER!!!! |
| 20:37.06 | Eimtr_ | Thanks u pro :) |
| 20:37.09 | Taintedwisp | thats my new saying at the beginning of every Melle game |
| 20:37.24 | Taintedwisp | It inspires rage, an d makes them mess up their build |
| 20:37.30 | Eimtr_ | hehe league? |
| 20:37.34 | Taintedwisp | Yup |
| 20:37.43 | Taintedwisp | I'm Gold/Diamond/Silver/Silver |
| 20:37.44 | Taintedwisp | LAWL |
| 20:37.48 | Taintedwisp | well I need to do my Placements |
| 20:37.50 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 20:38.01 | Taintedwisp | And it works, get people talking and they start making mistakes |
| 20:38.06 | Taintedwisp | Gives me an unfair gain |
| 20:38.06 | Eimtr_ | I was Diam Season 1 but then I went plat and skipped seasons |
| 20:38.14 | Taintedwisp | I suck at 1v1s lol |
| 20:38.19 | Taintedwisp | But I rock it on team matches |
| 20:38.51 | Taintedwisp | I play Slowtoss |
| 20:39.49 | Eimtr_ | ye i need to go ladder again all my friends Master, 1 GM |
| 20:41.11 | Taintedwisp | Nice |
| 20:41.23 | Eimtr_ | me the noob again :) |
| 20:41.26 | Taintedwisp | I need to find some people to help me get better at 1v1s and 2v2s lol |
| 20:41.49 | Taintedwisp | My macro, is Superior then some Grand Masters, some times |
| 20:41.52 | Taintedwisp | But my Micro sucks |
| 20:41.57 | Taintedwisp | I always waste my army |
| 20:41.59 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 20:42.02 | Taintedwisp | and I forget to scout... alot |
| 20:42.04 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 20:42.18 | Vailreth | i dont scout much either |
| 20:42.36 | Taintedwisp | I go 4 gate, it pretty much counters everything |
| 20:42.42 | Vailreth | but then there is no real point in it for me i have no clue what im looking at when i get a scout in anyway |
| 20:42.46 | Eimtr_ | my macro bad after not playing few seasons even fellow plats may sometimes outmacro me and before all got so good I was Diamond MMR constantly |
| 20:42.55 | Taintedwisp | My army consist of HTs, Stalkers, Sentries, Zealots, Collosus, and Archons |
| 20:42.58 | Taintedwisp | and sometimes DTS |
| 20:43.02 | Taintedwisp | and usually an immortal or two |
| 20:43.06 | Taintedwisp | and an observer |
| 20:43.07 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 20:43.20 | Eimtr_ | Toss is strong where early expo |
| 20:43.31 | Taintedwisp | and I rarely early Expand |
| 20:43.32 | Vailreth | i dont ladder ... but i play zerg sometimes |
| 20:43.41 | Taintedwisp | I usually expand at around 10 minutes |
| 20:43.42 | Eimtr_ | see, 1 Bronze player i played with fast expoed and he stopped my 111 and after long battle he even won i was liek o_____O |
| 20:43.55 | Taintedwisp | Nice |
| 20:44.04 | Eimtr_ | he was PRO BRONZE but still |
| 20:44.18 | Taintedwisp | I can play evenly on the 2v2 diamond, but 1v1 Silver can make me struggle |
| 20:44.28 | Taintedwisp | Because I lead the team |
| 20:44.44 | Vailreth | im sad to say ive never been out of bronze |
| 20:44.44 | Taintedwisp | 1v1, my biggest problem is getting bored... |
| 20:44.54 | Taintedwisp | Ill slow down alot after about 15 minutes because it will bore me |
| 20:45.02 | Taintedwisp | Because its like... okay what now... |
| 20:45.22 | Taintedwisp | ill have 2 bases, a big army, and will be at a stalemate and I slow down |
| 20:45.26 | Taintedwisp | 2 expansions |
| 20:45.28 | Eimtr_ | i was very good ally in war3 in 2v2 byut havent played much teams in sc2m still afer watching some Bratok 2v2 games he wins, I got what i had to do |
| 20:45.28 | Taintedwisp | not bases |
| 20:45.30 | Taintedwisp | 3 bases |
| 20:45.35 | Taintedwisp | I was great at SC1 |
| 20:45.37 | Taintedwisp | and Wc2 |
| 20:45.46 | Taintedwisp | and Wc3 I was Higher level but not pro |
| 20:46.19 | Eimtr_ | i come from war3 thats why my macro sux but it's just me cause others got it right |
| 20:46.28 | Taintedwisp | Yeah I wish there was a Grandmasters for 2v2-4v4 and I wish there was more team tournaments |
| 20:46.41 | Taintedwisp | Its like team ladder is just extras and not really ladder |
| 20:46.45 | Taintedwisp | to the E-sports world |
| 20:46.45 | Eimtr_ | no GM shouuld be for the rteal pros only |
| 20:47.25 | Taintedwisp | Yeah but I wish that there was a 4v4 Team GM, that would be awesome some pros who get together, and have to use teamwork in their stratagies |
| 20:47.28 | Taintedwisp | that would be awesome |
| 20:47.35 | Taintedwisp | Fixed teams only |
| 20:47.44 | Taintedwisp | Random teams defeats the purpose |
| 20:47.59 | Taintedwisp | the games would take forever |
| 20:48.13 | Taintedwisp | but the communication would be a must, and it could turn out really cool |
| 20:48.22 | Taintedwisp | Though lag would be a POS |
| 20:49.24 | Eimtr_ | well, Toss is easiest so, just early expand make loads of units late and u win, you need to protect early om 1v1 |
| 20:49.46 | Eimtr_ | cause in leagues under high diam they can all in and that's where you need to stop them to win as toss |
| 20:50.15 | Taintedwisp | Ah |
| 20:50.16 | Taintedwisp | ok |
| 20:50.20 | Taintedwisp | thanks for the tip |
| 20:50.26 | Taintedwisp | and one more thing |
| 20:50.45 | Taintedwisp | how do pros Que up the Sentires Ramp blocker |
| 20:50.47 | Taintedwisp | lol cant remember the name |
| 20:50.57 | Taintedwisp | I que it up, but they finish attacking first... |
| 20:50.57 | Eimtr_ | Force fields? |
| 20:50.59 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
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| 20:51.12 | Taintedwisp | Same with other abilities like snipe |
| 20:51.16 | Eimtr_ | what do you mean que, like cast several at a time> |
| 20:51.19 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 20:51.33 | Taintedwisp | I hold shift, but mine finish attacking their target first |
| 20:51.37 | Taintedwisp | and it usually makes it take too long |
| 20:51.39 | Eimtr_ | just F F F F where you want when you selected them |
| 20:51.51 | Taintedwisp | oh so there is no way to hold a button and just click |
| 20:52.10 | Taintedwisp | Damn |
| 20:52.22 | Eimtr_ | you could hold shift and tell it to do s,th else then force field but im not sure it will remember the command, it;'s not what you asked me though |
| 20:52.26 | Taintedwisp | Like I said I am shit with Micro |
| 20:52.51 | Taintedwisp | Vs zerg I murder them... |
| 20:52.52 | Taintedwisp | thats easy |
| 20:53.06 | Taintedwisp | get that first zealot out, and 6 pool avoided |
| 20:53.30 | Taintedwisp | But terran.... they are sneaky... and MMM gets me if I dont get my HTs in time |
| 20:53.42 | Taintedwisp | Which are usually one of the last I get |
| 20:53.59 | Taintedwisp | Plus Collosus is terrible against them, becuase MMM gives them the perfect stuff to build vikings |
| 20:54.12 | Eimtr_ | vs T you just need to hold early game even harass while you make expand, on late game if you do enough macro and units the game is yours with chargelots |
| 20:54.17 | Eimtr_ | and storms/colossis] |
| 20:55.19 | Eimtr_ | watch replays and u will see |
| 20:55.26 | Eimtr_ | top replays |
| 20:55.51 | Taintedwisp | Yeah lately, I have been watching Tons of Terran Vs Protoss games |
| 20:55.59 | Taintedwisp | only 3/8 were in protosses favor lol |
| 20:56.02 | Taintedwisp | Redbull finals |
| 20:56.11 | Taintedwisp | Wiat, nvm |
| 20:56.14 | Taintedwisp | it was 5/8 |
| 20:56.38 | Taintedwisp | SkMC vs Bomber |
| 20:56.58 | Taintedwisp | and some other protoss before that |
| 20:57.21 | Eimtr_ | wactch MC |
| 20:59.15 | Taintedwisp | yeah, I can Macro Faster then him, but I just cant seem to do the micro that he does |
| 20:59.20 | Taintedwisp | I loose TONS of units..... |
| 20:59.23 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:00.04 | Taintedwisp | Like I said I can macro like nobody else, but when it comes to that micro.... I dunno |
| 21:00.10 | Taintedwisp | and in SC1 I could micro well |
| 21:00.27 | Eimtr_ | but how, you say you do expand at 10th, he does expand at almost after first units and around 10 he has a 2nd epxnad |
| 21:01.16 | Taintedwisp | Because I have noticed... the pros never fill a base witht he actual full amount |
| 21:01.26 | Taintedwisp | they recommend 18 probes + 6 for gas |
| 21:01.39 | Taintedwisp | when if you count the Mineral Feilds its 24 minerals 6 for gas |
| 21:02.00 | Taintedwisp | Like at the end of the game MC had 4 bases, 1 fully mined, and only 30 probes... |
| 21:02.11 | Taintedwisp | Then another game he had 81 probes and 5 bases... |
| 21:02.12 | Taintedwisp | So I dunno |
| 21:03.55 | Taintedwisp | That and I watched some screwy zerg, oh yeah in the HOTS battle report, he had like 6 bases, and the toss had 3 bases and the toss had more income... |
| 21:04.07 | Taintedwisp | because the zerg didng get much drones |
| 21:04.26 | Eimtr_ | yes that happened cause Z was left with nothing but hydras and air that has nothing to attack |
| 21:04.28 | Taintedwisp | I mean for a while he had more, Maybe they kill them off for supply |
| 21:05.22 | Taintedwisp | I usually end up by the end of the game with 12 Warp gates, 3 Robotics, and 1 Stargate, 2 expansions, this is in a perfect game, and I am never hurting for money |
| 21:05.25 | Taintedwisp | Should I have more? |
| 21:05.41 | Taintedwisp | Robotics Constantly Pumping Collosus or Immortals |
| 21:05.54 | Taintedwisp | Stargate is for against zerg, I take out their farms |
| 21:06.15 | Taintedwisp | 5 phenoix go a long way |
| 21:06.35 | Taintedwisp | I'm not claiming to be better, in any way shape or form, I'm just saying, I dont see what they do different... |
| 21:06.46 | Taintedwisp | Its gotta be something that Implied |
| 21:06.58 | Taintedwisp | or just Micro In General |
| 21:07.50 | Taintedwisp | I honestly Believe its because I am shitty at micro |
| 21:07.53 | Eimtr_ | vs which race |
| 21:07.59 | Taintedwisp | any suggestions on how I could fix this |
| 21:08.03 | Taintedwisp | vs all races |
| 21:08.07 | Taintedwisp | I always get out Micro'd |
| 21:08.29 | Taintedwisp | I had about 10 stalkers 2 immortals 5 sentries and 10 zealots, I lost to around 35 marines... |
| 21:08.36 | Taintedwisp | with Charge and blink researched |
| 21:08.40 | Taintedwisp | a nd 1:1 armor weapons |
| 21:08.49 | Taintedwisp | That was to my older brother |
| 21:08.55 | Taintedwisp | He had 35 rines, and a raven |
| 21:09.33 | Taintedwisp | I feel like I should have easily stompped him in it... |
| 21:09.37 | Eimtr_ | vs Toss you need to train ytour Blink micro, maybe the Blizz map will help, you need to multi attack and just know when to go back, there isnt much to micro |
| 21:09.58 | Taintedwisp | the starcraft masters shit was easy lol, I beat 29/30 of those |
| 21:10.02 | Eimtr_ | vs any race just move away injuired |
| 21:10.03 | Taintedwisp | with exception to teh tank and medivac |
| 21:10.15 | Taintedwisp | Well I do that for Voidray rushes |
| 21:10.18 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:10.41 | Eimtr_ | tank and medivac easy - needs to always attack 1 stalker at a time and not miss to avoid missiles then in 1 tank vs 1 stalker you attack move back |
| 21:11.01 | Eimtr_ | tank has bigger range |
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| 21:12.49 | Taintedwisp | yeah but I hav eshitty timing lol |
| 21:14.13 | Eimtr_ | the units are at th exact places on that map when I did the component thing and mixed with a new map having the exact same camera bounds and sizes |
| 21:15.25 | Eimtr_ | now the terrain however is above the units, how do I lower the terrain, cause some units and stuff are under the terrain |
| 21:16.35 | Taintedwisp | hmmm |
| 21:16.46 | Taintedwisp | I dont know... |
| 21:16.48 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:17.00 | Taintedwisp | You could change the Height of the units in data |
| 21:22.39 | Eimtr_ | alsome, changed Modify Height field to like -100 and the terrain is below and now all units are back to where they were just in the air, and I have terrain and pathing, thanks again, now ust need to remove the fog that comes when too low ground |
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| 21:23.41 | Corbo | what's a unit that jumps? |
| 21:23.46 | Corbo | or has a jump animation? |
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| 21:27.13 | Mexa | Hey guys, have you seen the new link feature for dropbox? |
| 21:27.59 | Mexa | https://www.dropbox.com/sh/twsycglwl80s59k/4GQt2Xx9fc taking that as an example. That's pretty nifty. |
| 21:29.17 | Corbo | gallery? |
| 21:29.48 | Mexa | prety much |
| 21:29.56 | Mexa | Gallery for known filetypes such as images |
| 21:30.35 | Mexa | But it also shows the rest of the files in a list at the bottom, or if you use the row view. |
| 21:31.01 | Corbo | yeah |
| 21:31.05 | Corbo | I ca see that |
| 21:31.10 | Mexa | I thought it wasn't the only thing conveninent; you can share a whole folder now. |
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| 21:32.50 | Taintedwisp | back |
| 21:32.56 | Taintedwisp | had to load the dishwasher |
| 21:36.33 | Eimtr_ | changed Modify Height field to like -100 and the terrain is below and now all units are back to where they were just in the air, and I have terrain and pathing, thanks again, now just need to remove the fog that comes when too low ground |
| 21:36.37 | Corbo | ave you seen my video? |
| 21:36.41 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:36.53 | Taintedwisp | Yeah corbo I just watched it lol |
| 21:37.01 | Taintedwisp | Shows some of the bare basics |
| 21:37.22 | Corbo | shows stuff that probably can be done with triggers atm |
| 21:37.41 | Corbo | but it's so much completely different than making a million of triggers for just chhanging focal depths :P |
| 21:37.52 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 21:38.05 | Taintedwisp | I am going to learn it, I want to be one of the "Pros" of the Cinematics editor |
| 21:39.14 | Taintedwisp | Question is corbo |
| 21:39.18 | Taintedwisp | Have you seen MY VIDEO |
| 21:39.19 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KNhmfYKKDI&feature=relmfu |
| 21:39.22 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:39.24 | Taintedwisp | trololol |
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| 21:43.40 | Taintedwisp | UHG!!!, andmy older bro finnaly showed up... and forgot the fukn jack at his house.... |
| 21:43.47 | Taintedwisp | and left, said he would bring it tomorrow. |
| 21:44.19 | Taintedwisp | Glad a 4 mile drive is too much... if its that much |
| 22:19.32 | Corbo | got a second vid |
| 22:19.34 | Corbo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEirt43PZOw&feature=player_embedded |
| 22:20.01 | Corbo | I really like how the marine just stops in mid air and does nothing xD then COMES BACK TOTALLY DEFYING GRAVITY and enters the nydus bravely |
| 22:22.48 | Vailreth | i defy wifi |
| 22:23.59 | Corbo | WHO ARE YOU AND WHY DO YOU HAVE THE ALL MIGHTY POWER TO DEFY WIFI |
| 22:24.03 | Corbo | :P |
| 22:24.42 | Vailreth | i am the microwave that isnt properly sheilded and puts out way to much interfernce |
| 22:27.43 | Vailreth | and |
| 22:27.46 | Vailreth | my name is Bob |
| 22:28.54 | Corbo | Bob? The MICROWAVE? |
| 22:28.59 | Corbo | ohgod we're doomed |
| 22:30.22 | Vailreth | yes you will all meet your fate at my hands and be lead of to the underworld by Grimbob Reaperpants |
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| 23:51.41 | Taintedwisp | Vailreth you there? |
| 23:51.55 | Vailreth | yes |
| 23:51.56 | Taintedwisp | To your Microwave thing, go into the router and change the frequency. that will fix it |
| 23:52.11 | Taintedwisp | I used to have the same problem |
| 23:52.17 | Vailreth | right, |
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