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| 00:22.53 | DarkOrbis | Anyone know how to attach a dialog image to the mouse cursor's ui location? |
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| 00:54.58 | Dustin | Move the Dialog to UI position that you update periodically |
| 01:08.54 | DarkOrbis | Tried that and its off |
| 01:09.44 | DarkOrbis | only time the image is actually on the cursor is when its at 0,0 |
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| 01:21.52 | DarkOrbis | I guess no one knows :( |
| 01:32.13 | Dustin | I already told you how |
| 01:34.19 | Vailreth | hmm |
| 01:50.11 | DarkOrbis | I just told you that I tried that and it didn't work |
| 01:50.51 | DarkOrbis | UI x,y != Dialog x,y |
| 01:55.44 | DarkOrbis | Grrr, i guess no one knows. |
| 01:57.32 | DarkOrbis | Wish it worked :( |
| 01:57.54 | DarkOrbis | kicks the editor |
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| 02:02.58 | Vailreth | DarkOrbis i dont think it can do what you are trying to do sorry |
| 02:03.28 | DarkOrbis | well there goes one of the major systems for my map :( |
| 02:03.58 | DarkOrbis | back to the stupid damn drawing board to come up with a new map idea |
| 02:04.59 | Vailreth | it may be possible if you could write you own function that anchors the dialog at the cursor position |
| 02:04.59 | DarkOrbis | :( |
| 02:05.24 | DarkOrbis | mouse location != dialog location though |
| 02:05.37 | DarkOrbis | except when its 0,0 |
| 02:05.39 | Vailreth | what do you mean? |
| 02:05.46 | DarkOrbis | http://pastebin.com/BVuB2eb8 |
| 02:05.48 | Dustin | There's Mouse World and Mouse UI |
| 02:05.58 | DarkOrbis | i used mouse UI |
| 02:06.09 | DarkOrbis | see pastebin link |
| 02:06.29 | DarkOrbis | no matter what, the dialog isn't on the mouse |
| 02:06.51 | Dustin | Let me see what I can comeup with |
| 02:08.13 | DarkOrbis | ignore the text message and the move image actions the move dialog image is actually disabled atm, it was the first attempt which didn't work. the dialog in that attempt was fullscreen |
| 02:08.29 | DarkOrbis | Dustin, would you like to just see my map? |
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| 02:12.28 | Dustin | I got it working, but the offset is weird |
| 02:12.32 | Dustin | let me try something |
| 02:15.20 | DarkOrbis | when i tried it the image strays from the mouse the more you move away from the top left corner |
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| 02:37.18 | Vailreth | any Luck Dustin? |
| 02:37.41 | Dustin | Nope, Im getting exact values for Mouse Position and Dialog Offset |
| 02:37.47 | Dustin | But shit's not right |
| 02:38.00 | Dustin | there's something wrong with blizzards hardcode |
| 02:40.11 | DarkOrbis | anchor? |
| 02:40.32 | Dustin | Topleft is the only one that comes close |
| 02:40.58 | Dustin | which makes sense cause the game rendering starts at topleft |
| 02:42.00 | Vailreth | i thought about using arithimatic but there are no viable functions |
| 02:42.15 | Dustin | Yeah I cant get offsets to work right |
| 02:44.49 | DarkOrbis | :( |
| 02:45.16 | Dustin | I was gonna use that feature to make a moveable dialog |
| 02:45.20 | Dustin | UI |
| 02:45.26 | Dustin | At some point |
| 02:45.30 | Dustin | Nevermind now lol |
| 02:45.34 | DarkOrbis | :( |
| 02:46.03 | Dustin | What were you gonna use it for? |
| 02:46.10 | DarkOrbis | sadly, this was for a major system in my map. now I can't so there goes that map idea |
| 02:49.59 | Vailreth | i didnt need it my self but it would have been nice |
| 02:52.06 | Vailreth | ive been looking through the ui editor in the beta trying to find the mouse pointer but there is no refrence to it in there |
| 02:53.12 | DarkOrbis | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/gui/24076-placing-dialogs-at-mouse-click-position/ |
| 02:53.15 | DarkOrbis | just found that |
| 02:53.27 | DarkOrbis | seems to require math |
| 02:54.03 | DarkOrbis | (X * 1200) / Y screen resolution |
| 02:54.41 | Vailreth | yeah i was thinking about that library |
| 02:55.27 | DarkOrbis | sadly requires the player to click the mouse at the start of the game every single time |
| 02:56.04 | DarkOrbis | which I think is stupid |
| 02:57.12 | Vailreth | some of us are trying to do things blizzard never thought people would think of or want to try |
| 02:58.31 | Vailreth | i am glad to see some of us are able to pull our selves away from diablo |
| 02:59.01 | DarkOrbis | I'm in D3 right now actually |
| 02:59.09 | DarkOrbis | lol |
| 02:59.33 | Vailreth | im tired of d3 |
| 03:00.52 | Vailreth | i havent played it since the third day after release |
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| 03:11.46 | DarkOrbis | wtf, what good is getResolution when every player is required to click the mouse button |
| 03:17.03 | DarkOrbis | :( |
| 03:18.24 | DarkOrbis | well this sucks :( |
| 03:20.27 | Dustin | Dude no |
| 03:20.35 | Dustin | That was before mouse move event |
| 03:21.23 | Vailreth | will it work with a mouse move event? |
| 03:21.35 | Dustin | ima find out |
| 03:24.20 | DarkOrbis | V1.20 of getResolution still requires every player to click the left mouse button to get the Resolution |
| 03:24.38 | DarkOrbis | which is the latest version |
| 03:24.57 | Dustin | And noone will click before your maps system? |
| 03:25.05 | Dustin | Have a button somewhere to start the game |
| 03:25.13 | Dustin | Bam, you got a click |
| 03:26.05 | DarkOrbis | hmmm, good idea |
| 03:26.21 | DarkOrbis | kinda like a Start screen. |
| 03:26.27 | Dustin | Exactly |
| 03:30.12 | DarkOrbis | no can do. you lose the mouse cursor. |
| 03:30.47 | DarkOrbis | thanks to this: " Camera - Lock camera mouse relative mode On for player Player " |
| 03:31.52 | DarkOrbis | so much for that idea |
| 03:32.33 | DarkOrbis | turning the action off makes it unable to get the Resolution |
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| 03:35.06 | Dustin | He updated his libarary to update on mouse move aswell |
| 03:35.15 | Dustin | From what I can tell |
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| 03:37.58 | DarkOrbis | if you mean v1.20 I can tell you that it still requires a mouse click |
| 03:45.55 | Vailreth | later folks |
| 03:47.31 | DarkOrbis | noooooooooooooooooo, don't gooooooooo |
| 03:48.15 | Vailreth | ok ill stay abit longer |
| 03:48.49 | DarkOrbis | lol |
| 03:49.03 | Vailreth | but you owe me on |
| 03:49.04 | Vailreth | one |
| 03:49.16 | Vailreth | ( really i just need my meds to melt) |
| 03:49.51 | DarkOrbis | ahhh, you take crazy pills |
| 03:50.06 | Vailreth | no i take Sane Pills |
| 03:50.13 | DarkOrbis | or do you're pills look like the pills from Dr. Mario? |
| 03:50.23 | Vailreth | i wish |
| 03:50.50 | Vailreth | if my ills could be cured like Dr. Mario id be in heaven |
| 03:51.12 | DarkOrbis | hmmm, someone should make a candy called Dr Mario's Pills and make them look like the ones from the game |
| 03:51.54 | Vailreth | dual frlavored pill shapped jellybeans |
| 03:52.02 | Vailreth | id go for em |
| 03:52.20 | DarkOrbis | hellz yea |
| 04:00.15 | Vailreth | i really need to come up with some cool protoss abilities |
| 04:01.34 | Vailreth | hmm i could use dark pylons as version of the nydus network... |
| 04:04.02 | Vailreth | well i was using them as rip field generators |
| 04:06.06 | Vailreth | any who im out laters |
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| 06:00.12 | themusic | anyone have any good tuts saved for parsing strings and storing values into arrays? |
| 06:05.52 | themusic | or threads.. or anything for that matter |
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| 08:11.58 | Parthon | you know with the arcade coming out .. are there changes to map editing as well? |
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| 18:41.07 | Vailreth | any body alive |
| 18:41.17 | Vailreth | or are you all D3 zombies |
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| 18:47.24 | Vailreth | Ahli: welcome back |
| 19:02.25 | Ahli | my pc only gave me like 10 fps anymore somehow and I dont know what caused it |
| 19:03.05 | Vailreth | odd |
| 19:03.25 | Ahli | it still does |
| 19:03.28 | Ahli | wtf |
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| 19:10.37 | Ahli | reboot fixed it. logout and login in windows didn't fix it |
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| 19:14.34 | Xapti | in patch 1.5 do you still need to attack dummy targets to move turrets? |
| 19:19.02 | Vailreth | good its fixed and Porbably |
| 19:19.06 | Vailreth | Xapti |
| 19:20.25 | Xapti | ... |
| 19:20.40 | Xapti | probably odn't have to use dummy now? |
| 19:20.53 | Vailreth | probably still have to |
| 19:22.24 | Xapti | oh right |
| 19:30.00 | Xapti | when using "order unit", can the target point markers be disabled for just specific actions in any easy way? ie. disable it for triggered orders, but not player-input orders? |
| 19:31.12 | Vailreth | i wouldnt know sorry |
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| 19:41.56 | Xapti | man my map got really messed up from 1.5 |
| 19:42.22 | Xapti | i's weird, because seemingly a simple thing like distance offset is now further... |
| 19:49.40 | Ahli | I hate 1 change they made to the trigger editor. |
| 19:50.01 | Ahli | They made it that changing a parameter's type deactivates the function usage. |
| 19:50.46 | Ahli | So I can't just add a boolean parameter and after that check all places where it existed with an disabling attempt which used to show me the usage list. |
| 19:52.08 | Ahli | The first problem is that newly created parameters are int only. THen you change them and the deactivating warning popup shows which is the second problem. I do not want to deactivate the function because I want to go to every function usage that has been activated before I added a parameter in order to add the new parameter. |
| 19:52.42 | Ahli | So basically I won't be able to differ between the pre-deactivated function usages and the ones that were forced by the program. |
| 19:53.07 | Ahli | Thrid problem. It deactivates randomly more than that. It deactivated some if-then-else statements, too. :( |
| 19:53.29 | Ahli | but only a few, not all that contained that function... very strange |
| 19:54.05 | Xapti | woah... unit height is now absolute |
| 19:54.36 | Xapti | my height 0 units were at like -8 into the ground |
| 19:54.49 | Xapti | I was wondering what was going on |
| 19:56.35 | Xapti | I wonder why no other units are lower though |
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| 19:56.58 | Xapti | units that have default value of 0 asre still normal height — but nto the observers I specificied height manually for |
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| 20:07.18 | Ahli | trigger editor so slow sometimes now |
| 20:07.29 | Guest1234 | when doing what? |
| 20:08.10 | Ahli | changing the structure of the code in my map within a trigger. I've a lot of code in my map |
| 20:08.37 | Ahli | so just adding an if-then-else takes a few seconds |
| 20:08.45 | Guest1234 | oh wow |
| 20:09.29 | Ahli | I think it depends where the code is in the galaxy file |
| 20:09.34 | Guest1234 | Is it really bad on a big trigger or just anywhere in your code? |
| 20:09.50 | Ahli | the trigger is short |
| 20:10.44 | Guest1234 | so sometimes it's okay but other times it's not, seemingly depending on where the code is in the galaxy file? |
| 20:10.57 | Vailreth | looks like the best i can do for my one hero's intinidation aura is to reduce the amount of damage units do |
| 20:11.02 | Ahli | indeed |
| 20:11.22 | Ahli | in general the trigger editor is faster, but the slowness feels random ;D |
| 20:11.50 | Ahli | there just needs to be a way to make that pretty fast all the time :S |
| 20:12.31 | Vailreth | i was really hoping to be able to use a behavior to nullify a units damage against anonther unit |
| 20:13.17 | Ahli | you can |
| 20:13.31 | Vailreth | how? |
| 20:14.12 | Ahli | you either prohibit the execution of the damage effect, if the behavior is on the attacker's unit. If it is on the victim's unit, you can filter for effects I think in the damage response. |
| 20:14.32 | Ahli | at least I think you can filter |
| 20:14.47 | Vailreth | how do you prohibit the damage effect? |
| 20:15.42 | Ahli | validator? and if you need the animation, you need to copy the damage effect and set its damage to 0 and do all actor stuff to play the animation :S |
| 20:15.54 | Ahli | and sets |
| 20:16.08 | Vailreth | yeah ill just stick with reducing the damage |
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| 20:20.44 | Vailreth | this wouldnt be an issue if the damage response of buffs worked with Attacker as well as defender |
| 20:21.02 | Ahli | ^^ |
| 20:22.05 | Ahli | so it can work, but you would have to set up the whole damage system to be able to work with something like that ;D it's a huge amount of work |
| 20:22.29 | Vailreth | its not worth it |
| 20:24.15 | Ahli | ^^ |
| 20:24.24 | Ahli | trigger all damage. problem solved |
| 20:24.35 | Vailreth | no |
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| 20:26.01 | Ahli | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_AzEeIGznU problem solved |
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| 21:09.43 | Mexa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjfU5QGJ_Go That real-time demo from Square Enix sure looks impressive o_O |
| 21:10.26 | Mexa | No pre rendering whatsoever! |
| 21:15.48 | Vailreth | wow |
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| 21:34.34 | Xapti | It's nice butt here's been things similar to that before I think |
| 21:34.55 | Xapti | well, for the PC, but I suppose not console |
| 21:37.48 | Deaod | thats ... impressive |
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| 22:02.12 | Xapti | eh... How would I get an ability to trigger front only a unit's turret arc instead of the unit's arc |
| 22:03.15 | Vailreth | thats a tough one |
| 22:03.43 | Vailreth | its a tank or other turreted unit or is it a structure? |
| 22:05.32 | Xapti | immortal |
| 22:05.48 | Xapti | immortals one of the only units that don't turn (and I don't want it to turn) |
| 22:06.59 | Xapti | It's not really something I necessarily need to do unless I actually keep immortal as my indended unit though |
| 22:07.26 | Xapti | it's kinda just a placeholder unit and I grew to like the way it moves and targets |
| 22:08.33 | DarkOrbis | grrr, still haven't found a way to get Resolution without the stupid mouse click |
| 22:11.47 | Mexa | One can way a nice user interface without having to know the resolution. |
| 22:12.05 | Mexa | **still can make |
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| 22:13.07 | Ahli | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/trigger-libraries/17101-library-get-resolution/ that guy described how he got it without click |
| 22:13.23 | DarkOrbis | But I need it for a system I'm making |
| 22:13.52 | DarkOrbis | getResolution library still requires a mouse click |
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| 22:16.48 | Ahli | on the last page he describes how it can be used without clicks. maybe 1.5 fixes the problems |
| 22:20.35 | DarkOrbis | I'm looking at getResolution v1.20 (latest version) and I've tested the system on both test mode and bnet. it still requires a mouse click. |
| 22:27.32 | Xapti | woah... mouse position works on the minimap now |
| 22:27.36 | Xapti | that's pretty cool |
| 22:28.02 | Ahli | and clicking, too |
| 22:28.15 | Ahli | you click on the map then |
| 22:28.34 | Xapti | yeah |
| 22:28.44 | Ahli | I saw husky doing that in my map and then I was like: ohhh, 1.5 added that ;D |
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| 22:46.02 | Xapti | no I don't think 1.5 added that |
| 22:46.12 | Xapti | but it added mouse movement on minimap |
| 22:46.28 | Xapti | I could always use minimap to target things |
| 22:47.39 | Xapti | but before the "player moves mouse" event wouldn't fire if the cursor was over the minimap. It still doesn't fire if it's anywhere else on the GUI, but if it's on the minimap, it will register the mouse moved map position as the equivalent position on the game coordinates |
| 22:49.08 | Xapti | I didn't know your walls were like that. Did you update them recently? they look really nice |
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| 22:54.03 | DarkOrbis | is there a list of new natives added in patch 1.5 that have no GUI option? |
| 22:54.16 | Mexa | They didn't update the max coordinates on the mouse ui x and y, indeed. |
| 22:54.44 | Mexa | Sadly they're still capped between 1600 in width, |
| 22:54.54 | Mexa | and 1200 in height, I imagine. |
| 22:56.26 | Xapti | isn't there a library to fix that? |
| 22:56.37 | Xapti | or is tht just for something else |
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| 22:57.07 | DarkOrbis | well so much for using getResolution which means I can't make my map :( |
| 22:57.43 | DarkOrbis | I can't use it since it requires every player to click the mouse. |
| 23:00.31 | Mexa | Do you have to know the player's resolution? |
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