| 00:00.37 | Dustin | yes |
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| 00:47.57 | delineator | thanks dustin |
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| 01:22.30 | Dustin | np |
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| 01:57.59 | Vailreth | any body here |
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| 08:25.58 | harl | hi |
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| 08:34.33 | Mexa | hello |
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| 09:50.28 | hobbidude | hey anyone know if you can return more than 1 value in a function? |
| 10:38.32 | hobbidude | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:41.36 | A1win | you can't |
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| 11:15.06 | hobbidude | whats the best way to do a loop that runs the entire game? |
| 11:15.29 | hobbidude | while using mission time, repeating forever loop, or periodic event? |
| 11:17.27 | Ahli | a single thread with a loop and a wait? |
| 11:18.09 | hobbidude | ?? |
| 11:18.29 | hobbidude | periodic would be trigger but other two action |
| 11:18.29 | Ahli | -> a trigger or an action definition () |
| 11:18.35 | hobbidude | either or |
| 11:18.41 | hobbidude | which is smoothest |
| 11:18.43 | Ahli | -> a trigger or an action definition (with thread ticked) |
| 11:19.05 | hobbidude | i can set it up as either |
| 11:19.16 | Ahli | I'm using action definitions for that purpose myself. |
| 11:19.25 | hobbidude | kk |
| 11:19.28 | hobbidude | which loop tho |
| 11:19.50 | hobbidude | how does repeat forever come out in scripts vs a regular while loop |
| 11:20.35 | Ahli | I would imagine that it's a while with a true as condition... |
| 11:20.42 | Ahli | but I don't know :D |
| 11:21.04 | hobbidude | kk |
| 11:21.04 | hobbidude | ty |
| 11:21.09 | Ahli | it should be slightly faster than a while with a condition that is true == true. |
| 11:21.13 | hobbidude | guess ill use mssion time while |
| 11:21.27 | hobbidude | so forever actually? |
| 11:21.45 | Ahli | if you want that loop to run forever, yes |
| 11:22.00 | hobbidude | still need a small wait at the end? |
| 11:22.00 | A1win | x_X |
| 11:22.11 | Ahli | you can't stop it no matter what then. Use that carefully. |
| 11:22.18 | hobbidude | no no thats fine |
| 11:22.24 | A1win | you can stop it with a break if you need to |
| 11:22.43 | hobbidude | still require a wait? |
| 11:22.48 | Ahli | yes |
| 11:22.50 | A1win | but what does it matter which loop you use D: it's not like there's any significant differences in performance |
| 11:22.51 | hobbidude | kk |
| 11:23.17 | Ahli | as long as you don't use periodic events :D |
| 11:23.17 | hobbidude | true it this loop is soo major in my game i might as well make it as smooth as possible |
| 11:23.31 | A1win | if you don't use a wait, it tries to run the loop infinite times during one server frame and causes a script execution took too long error |
| 11:23.44 | hobbidude | i see |
| 11:23.49 | A1win | hobbidude, you can't make it any smoother by choosing which loop type you use >_> |
| 11:24.04 | A1win | it's the stuff that's in the loop that makes the difference |
| 11:24.16 | hobbidude | isn't while better than picked integer tho |
| 11:24.22 | A1win | x_X |
| 11:24.25 | hobbidude | or for each intger |
| 11:24.34 | A1win | why'd you use a for each loop if you want it to repeat forever |
| 11:24.54 | A1win | those are for different purposes, just use the one you need |
| 11:24.58 | hobbidude | oops |
| 11:24.59 | hobbidude | nvm |
| 11:25.08 | hobbidude | another trigger im thinking of |
| 11:25.53 | hobbidude | what does the loop tick in actions do? |
| 11:26.10 | A1win | the what? |
| 11:26.37 | hobbidude | like when yoy set it to thread there's also an option for loop? |
| 11:27.00 | A1win | oh, action definition options |
| 11:27.06 | hobbidude | might not even need the while then |
| 11:27.17 | A1win | probably used to define a loop action somehow |
| 11:27.40 | A1win | like the Repeat Forever action is a loop, it probably has the "loop" option turned on for it |
| 11:27.52 | A1win | but I'm not sure if it actually does anything on its own |
| 11:28.02 | A1win | might be just a definition for the editor |
| 11:28.07 | A1win | but dunno |
| 11:28.10 | hobbidude | lol |
| 11:28.18 | A1win | just use Repeat Forever if you want something to repeat forever |
| 11:28.42 | A1win | there's no way you can optimize it from that any further, only make it in different ways |
| 11:28.53 | hobbidude | ok |
| 11:28.56 | A1win | and I don't see any reason to make it in a different way because that makes the most sense |
| 11:28.59 | hobbidude | well back to the while |
| 11:29.02 | hobbidude | different trigger now |
| 11:29.17 | hobbidude | how much better is while over for each integer? |
| 11:29.27 | A1win | what do you mean by better |
| 11:29.31 | A1win | they just do a different thing |
| 11:29.58 | hobbidude | i heard there used to cause issues |
| 11:30.01 | hobbidude | but was fixed |
| 11:30.18 | A1win | and? |
| 11:30.25 | hobbidude | but "for each" basically does while not scripts longer |
| 11:30.45 | A1win | you don't need to worry about that |
| 11:30.50 | hobbidude | kk |
| 11:31.05 | A1win | even if there is a difference, it isn't significant enough to care about |
| 11:31.06 | hobbidude | not it difference isn;t that big? |
| 11:31.18 | hobbidude | kk |
| 11:31.19 | hobbidude | ty |
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| 11:32.32 | hobbidude | A1 you go my that on mapster or something else? |
| 11:32.38 | hobbidude | by srry |
| 11:33.09 | A1win | yeah I use this nick on the forums as well |
| 11:33.19 | A1win | why? |
| 11:33.33 | hobbidude | just wondering if i've seen you on before |
| 11:33.43 | hobbidude | put a project or post to the name lol |
| 11:33.53 | A1win | well I haven't been very active on the forums |
| 11:34.12 | hobbidude | ty for the help |
| 11:34.37 | A1win | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/project-workplace/28656-craft-craft-eu-na-beta/ |
| 11:34.41 | A1win | that's my biggest project |
| 11:35.01 | hobbidude | oh snap |
| 11:35.10 | hobbidude | right i remember that |
| 11:35.42 | hobbidude | is it just me or is this new newb asking basic trigger question driving everyone nutz |
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| 11:52.17 | Mexa | [11:50] <hobbidude> hey anyone know if you can return more than 1 value in a function? -The arcade beta has provided a way to pass structs, functions and arrays as references to a function. Hence, say you want multiple return values, you can encapsulate them in either a struct, or an array if they are of the same type. |
| 11:53.09 | Mexa | Other than that I'd store the variables temporarily in global variables until the time being. |
| 11:54.01 | Mexa | Hmm yeah, late reply but oh well. |
| 11:54.16 | hobbidude | lol |
| 11:54.17 | hobbidude | np |
| 11:54.29 | hobbidude | commmmee ooon beta |
| 11:54.40 | hobbidude | i got it sorted |
| 11:55.09 | hobbidude | i think its sad that my biggest excitement for hots is just the art assets |
| 12:01.59 | Mexa | I'm not sure if I will have time for hots personally, but it is going to be interesting to see new features and assets for sure. |
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| 13:38.10 | Ashamed | so any zombie reports in EU? |
| 13:45.12 | Ashamed | None? |
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| 14:14.34 | Ashamed | NONE |
| 14:14.46 | Ashamed | Jade you see all the zombie storys ? |
| 14:16.54 | Ashamed | No one :( |
| 14:41.04 | Ashamed | ahhhh |
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| 16:08.19 | Vailreth|2 | hello mapsters |
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| 16:09.07 | Ashamed | vail you see all teh zombie attacks? |
| 16:13.23 | Vailreth|2 | zombie attaacks? |
| 16:14.10 | Ashamed | you in EU vail? |
| 16:14.40 | Vailreth|2 | nope |
| 16:14.48 | Ashamed | you in US and not heard of them |
| 16:14.59 | Ashamed | there is been like 4 counts of canabilism in the last week |
| 16:15.02 | Ashamed | like peopl eating brains |
| 16:15.04 | Ashamed | and eating hearts |
| 16:15.13 | Vailreth|2 | havent heard aboutr it |
| 16:15.18 | Ashamed | let me get teh stories |
| 16:15.25 | Vailreth|2 | thats ok.. |
| 16:15.29 | Ashamed | Its kinda crazy... |
| 16:15.32 | Vailreth|2 | yeah |
| 16:15.52 | Ashamed | at first i was laugjing about it because they said some guy in florida ate someones face off and it was zombies! |
| 16:16.02 | Ashamed | but then like everyday another story releasesd |
| 16:16.12 | Ashamed | some lady ate her babies toes and fingures and then its brain |
| 16:16.32 | Ashamed | and some college student did the same thing to their room-mate ( bit off parts of the body ) then ate his heart and brains |
| 16:17.00 | Ashamed | its happening all on East Coast |
| 16:19.32 | Vailreth|2 | weird |
| 16:30.23 | Ashamed | dude i dunno at first i was like thats funny |
| 16:30.44 | Ashamed | but now i am like wtf i have never read a story about someone eating brains out of someones head... and i read two on the same day |
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| 16:48.07 | Hookah604 | Ashamedits pretty simple: some tards taking new drugs... |
| 16:52.09 | Ashamed | see that were the first reports |
| 16:52.17 | Ashamed | the two brain eaters are not reporting any drug use |
| 16:52.25 | Ashamed | the drug is called bath salts |
| 16:53.45 | Ashamed | and |
| 16:53.57 | Ashamed | you know the CDC posted a zombie survial guide on their site at the begin of this year |
| 16:55.19 | Ashamed | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/31/alexander-kinyua-kujoe-agyei-kodie-ate-brain-heart-roommate-maryland_n_1560149.html |
| 16:55.22 | Ashamed | http://www.digitaljournal.com/blog/3519 |
| 16:55.28 | Ashamed | http://www.cdc.gov/phpr/zombies.htm |
| 16:55.32 | Ashamed | mother fucken zombies are coming |
| 16:57.22 | Ashamed | http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2012/06/its_a_madmadworld.php <-- that site has alot of the storys |
| 16:57.31 | Ashamed | these all have showed up in like the last week >< |
| 16:58.55 | Ashamed | the baby story i think is old >< |
| 16:58.57 | Ashamed | sot hat one don't count |
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| 17:47.47 | Ashamed | fucken zombies guys |
| 17:47.48 | Ashamed | fucking zombies |
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| 19:02.47 | Repo | New experimental map: Blood Turnament - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/blood-turnament/ |
| 19:02.57 | Repo | New map: Evacuation - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/njordysevac/ |
| 19:02.58 | Repo | New asset: Dark Protos Vindicator - http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/dark-protos-vindicator/ |
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| 19:25.23 | TheSkunk__ | Arcade Beta is (offically) open to all now: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/6176111/The_Patch_150_Arcade_Beta_Has_Begun-6_1_2012#blog |
| 19:25.27 | TheSkunk__ | patch notes availible too |
| 19:37.52 | Ahli | the size of their patch notes >_> |
| 19:38.15 | Ahli | And they changed stuff like "Morphing units no longer become stuck in their cocoon state if they are underneath a Hatchery." :D |
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| 20:12.18 | ThunderLord_ | This might be totally impossible, but does anyone know if it is possible to make it so that Global variables can only be used by triggers in the same folder/subfolder of that variable? my Variable list is getting really cluttered |
| 20:13.27 | A1win | nope, I use records for that reason |
| 20:14.45 | ThunderLord_ | Can u tell me real quick what a record is? in like 2 sentences |
| 20:14.55 | ThunderLord_ | cuz ive seen them, idk wht they do |
| 20:15.18 | A1win | it's just a collection of variables |
| 20:15.52 | A1win | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Record_(computer_science) |
| 20:16.34 | ThunderLord_ | hummm |
| 20:16.37 | ThunderLord_ | ill check that out |
| 20:16.38 | Ahli | I need to fix my map. They changed something with items and their height when dropped (I guess they fixed the bug) |
| 20:16.46 | ThunderLord_ | Hey, are you the guy who made Craftcraft? |
| 20:16.58 | A1win | yeh |
| 20:18.08 | ThunderLord_ | Sweet, me and my friend really like that game lol, rlly fun, good stuf |
| 20:18.15 | A1win | hehe |
| 20:24.13 | Ahli | how can I disable the trigger warning checboxes on the screen in the beta? |
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| 20:55.36 | Rodrigo | Does anyone know if version 1.5 will wipe out all custom maps in the system? |
| 20:56.33 | Ahli | it will push them to "other" category. I have no source at my hand but I remember reading that somewhere |
| 20:56.42 | Ahli | so they won't wipe out everything |
| 21:04.29 | Rodrigo | they should |
| 21:04.32 | Rodrigo | new system, new maps |
| 21:32.10 | mischanix | 'The Game Data component now displays all objects used by the document, even if they are defined in dependencies.' ohmigod |
| 21:34.15 | mischanix | There's at least 30 new APIs exposed here |
| 21:34.59 | mischanix | Oh, getting to the bottom half.. more like 1~200 |
| 22:02.13 | Ahli | :S I can corrupt my map easily now when I try to fix the localization (because I saved with enUS editor) :S |
| 22:15.22 | Ahli | how can I delete a localization in the new beta? |
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| 22:39.20 | Ahli | deleting it with an mpq editor -> cant open map anymore. Deleting it within the editor in import module -> works.... seems like I have to change my habits before I corrupt every map :S |
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| 23:03.37 | Ahli | how can I disable the warning messages UI within the map in the alpha/beta? |
| 23:06.09 | Ahli | JademusSreg, I summon you because you might know the answer! |
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| 23:10.26 | Xapti | OPEN GAMES LIST! |
| 23:13.53 | Xapti | does the old 1.5 beta/alpha client work to update to the new one? |
| 23:14.17 | Xapti | or do I need to run the starcraft 2 test server thing on the normal sc2? |
| 23:16.06 | Xapti | hmm it seems to use the old 1.5 beta installer, so UI would think it woudl work |
| 23:16.21 | Xapti | why's the updater sodamn slow and seemingly doing nothing though? ? |
| 23:16.50 | Xapti | ahh finally. I wish it showed more progress or something |
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| 23:45.15 | ThunderLord_ | So...... does this mean we have to rebuild all our old hero's in to a new hero system? im not really seeing a tie in with these new data editor hero fields... |