| 00:09.16 | Bounty | pew |
| 00:16.48 | JademusSreg | Hi thar. |
| 00:16.53 | JademusSreg | Check your email? |
| 00:26.12 | Mexa | xD I'm so lonely. |
| 00:27.01 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 00:27.41 | JademusSreg | I take it EU is still a tad segregated from NA? |
| 00:29.47 | Mexa | 2 plyers |
| 00:29.50 | Mexa | *players |
| 00:29.51 | Mexa | lol |
| 00:30.54 | JademusSreg | Bounty is a hidin'. |
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| 00:39.06 | Dustin | http://i.imgur.com/lQhIV.jpg |
| 00:39.08 | Dustin | lmfao |
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| 00:50.44 | Mexa | Cute |
| 00:50.46 | Mexa | lol |
| 00:53.41 | Cheekything | I hope they change the lobby to the old WC3 style for HOTS :/ |
| 00:55.00 | Mexa | Ish |
| 00:55.23 | Mexa | Oh wait, you said the lobby |
| 00:55.58 | Mexa | The drag and drog is perhaps not as good as it could be. |
| 00:58.19 | JademusSreg | Sometimes I suspect nostalgia is a form of encephalopathy. |
| 00:59.37 | Cheekything | nostalgia has nothing to do with it |
| 00:59.57 | Cheekything | if it's not broke don't fix is a good rule they didn't follow for bnet2.0 |
| 01:02.02 | Cheekything | btw can anyone on the US server take a screenshot of page 1 and page 2 of the populatiy list |
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| 01:16.51 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
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| 02:43.02 | Bounty | Apparently people really like morphing into a carrier |
| 02:43.37 | Zandose | who wouldnt like morphing into a bad-ass carrier |
| 02:43.55 | JademusSreg | Bounty, did you check your email? |
| 02:44.00 | Bounty | no, why? |
| 02:44.58 | Bounty | should i? |
| 02:45.04 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 02:45.22 | Bounty | ok... nothing is there |
| 02:45.26 | Bounty | lol? |
| 02:45.52 | Bounty | What is going on? |
| 02:45.52 | JademusSreg | That's odd. I would have figured you'd get patch beta acess. |
| 02:46.04 | Bounty | oh |
| 02:46.05 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:46.44 | JademusSreg | Phase two of testing the arcade, apparently. Larger number of people have been brought on to test, if the forum topics are any indication. |
| 02:47.05 | Bounty | oh |
| 02:47.13 | Bounty | i dont have time for that crap |
| 02:47.19 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:47.33 | JademusSreg | You're saying you don't have time to use new editor features? |
| 02:47.46 | Bounty | nope |
| 02:47.53 | Bounty | im makin cycles bro |
| 02:47.53 | JademusSreg | Kay. |
| 02:49.33 | Bounty | i decided to not make trails bounce discs but instead kill anything that walks in it |
| 02:49.40 | Bounty | i also decided to not use blocks as the trail |
| 02:56.08 | Kenoli | I got an email about arcade stuff |
| 02:56.16 | JademusSreg | Cool. |
| 02:56.30 | JademusSreg | Lots of folks are getting in on the action now. |
| 02:56.43 | Kenoli | Looks like spam |
| 02:57.02 | Kenoli | Do the real ones look like spam? |
| 02:57.22 | JademusSreg | Just pastebin the content. |
| 02:58.11 | JademusSreg | Or see here: http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/general-chat/36783-sc2-arcade-alpha/?post=1 |
| 02:59.07 | Kenoli | Weird |
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| 03:02.14 | Zandose | if converting a number from real to integer does the decimal part get cut off or rounded? |
| 03:02.23 | Dustin | rounded |
| 03:02.36 | Dustin | but it rounds up I think |
| 03:02.44 | Dustin | wait...or does it |
| 03:02.44 | Bounty | Here we go |
| 03:02.48 | Zandose | that may explain my problem |
| 03:02.52 | Bounty | time to see if my hours of work will be accepted by the players |
| 03:02.55 | Dustin | Didnt we have a discussion about this |
| 03:02.59 | Bounty | You should come test this Dustin lol |
| 03:03.03 | Dustin | kkk! |
| 03:03.05 | Bounty | you can morph into a light cycle now |
| 03:03.07 | Bounty | :) |
| 03:03.22 | Dustin | lol n |
| 03:03.27 | Bounty | i mean it doesnt leave trails of light, it leaves trails of electricity |
| 03:03.30 | Bounty | but w/e |
| 03:03.49 | Bounty | its the new sprint |
| 03:03.50 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:04.28 | Dustin | hehe |
| 03:04.36 | Bounty | testing now if u want in |
| 03:04.49 | Dustin | Im on |
| 03:05.47 | Bounty | ur in a game dustin |
| 03:05.48 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:05.56 | Dustin | Im in YOUR game |
| 03:05.59 | Dustin | You noob lol |
| 03:06.12 | Bounty | we're testing a PRIVATE test version |
| 03:06.12 | Bounty | derp |
| 03:06.14 | Bounty | 1 spot open |
| 03:08.12 | Kenoli | This download is painfully slow |
| 03:08.43 | Kenoli | How long has this whole alpha thing been going on |
| 03:09.13 | A1win | got an email too, but D3 in 3 days D: no time for it |
| 03:09.20 | A1win | for the alpha, that is |
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| 03:17.02 | JademusSreg | Psh. |
| 03:17.12 | JademusSreg | In what way is there no time? =D |
| 03:19.01 | Zandose | whats a good way to find actors along a line form one point to another, for destroying them for a path. |
| 03:19.03 | Zandose | ? |
| 03:19.48 | JademusSreg | Don't worry about it; I think the next patch will help with that. |
| 03:20.05 | Zandose | can't want for it. its my problem now |
| 03:20.25 | Zandose | traceline with region searchs? |
| 03:20.26 | JademusSreg | A new Path API for drawing paths between points, designated by units or unit types. |
| 03:20.45 | Zandose | not units, actors |
| 03:22.19 | JademusSreg | Haha, well, if you want to be silly about it, how do you mean? Signaling at offsets? How do you mean find? |
| 03:23.20 | Zandose | idk. i just want all doodads (which are actors for me) to be destroyed along a straight line from one point to another point. |
| 03:24.05 | A1win | not enough time to take a look at it for it to be of any use for anything |
| 03:24.06 | JademusSreg | Don't mince terms; either it's an actor or a doodad. |
| 03:24.17 | Zandose | actor then |
| 03:24.27 | JademusSreg | Also, you'd need to send signals. |
| 03:24.38 | Zandose | i have no idea what signals are |
| 03:24.45 | JademusSreg | Similar to how doodad flora gets burned by damage effects. |
| 03:25.06 | JademusSreg | Only on receiving the signal, you'd destroy the actors or whatever pleases you. |
| 03:25.19 | Zandose | i was just thinking of point a point by 1 along a straight line and using the actor message to region to destroy them |
| 03:25.40 | Zandose | moving a point* |
| 03:26.01 | JademusSreg | You don't get actors by region. |
| 03:26.24 | JademusSreg | So if you're intent on your approach, you can store them in an array. |
| 03:26.39 | Zandose | i have a action trigger "Send Actor Message To Game Region" |
| 03:26.48 | JademusSreg | With their indexes encoding for their positions. |
| 03:27.27 | Zandose | staying away from making extra variables right now. I'm going to have to many already |
| 03:27.52 | JademusSreg | 2MiB, as of 1.4.3. |
| 03:27.54 | Zandose | oh well, ill try my way first and if it doesnt work ill try yours |
| 03:28.14 | JademusSreg | Also: native actor ActorRegionCreate (actorscope as, string actorName, region r); |
| 03:28.14 | JademusSreg | native void ActorRegionSend (actor a, int intersect, string msg, string filters, string terms); |
| 03:28.31 | JademusSreg | You're welcome to try those. |
| 03:30.28 | Zandose | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:30.42 | Bounty | What did you think Dustin? lol |
| 03:30.45 | Zandose | using game regions not actor regions |
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| 03:36.48 | Dustin | its good! |
| 03:36.50 | Dustin | I like the changes |
| 03:37.24 | Currydevil | Bounty, test time? |
| 03:38.12 | Bounty | can't |
| 03:38.19 | Bounty | testing the new cycle morph still lol |
| 03:38.21 | Currydevil | Why not? |
| 03:38.24 | Bounty | what did you think? |
| 03:38.27 | Currydevil | pfft, it worked fine to me. |
| 03:38.36 | Bounty | yeah but i need to tweak it |
| 03:38.41 | Currydevil | Especially doubling back lightning fast |
| 03:38.44 | JademusSreg | Sorry, Zan, I'll clarify; you can't get actors by region. |
| 03:39.12 | Currydevil | Well, fine -.- i'll go test my new pc settings and see how many units i can get on screen now and not lag out. |
| 03:40.39 | Zandose | are you sure about that? Actor - Send actor message (Destroy) to all actors contained by game region (Region(P, 3.0)) |
| 03:41.20 | JademusSreg | I'm certain. |
| 03:42.35 | JademusSreg | Because that GUI action is actually void libNtve_gf_ActorRegionSendSimple (actor lp_region, string lp_message) { ActorRegionSend(lp_region, c_actorIntersectAgainstRadiusContact, lp_message, null, null); } |
| 03:43.03 | JademusSreg | And I said you can't get actors by region; that doesn't -get- actors. |
| 03:43.28 | Zandose | hmm |
| 03:44.00 | JademusSreg | So you are indirectly trying one of the natives I suggested. =D |
| 03:44.11 | JademusSreg | Any success? |
| 03:45.05 | Zandose | still testing. encountering some problems. working on it |
| 03:48.41 | Kenoli | This installer sure is bad at working |
| 03:53.53 | Zandose | well for the moment ive given up on the actor thing |
| 03:54.07 | Zandose | now i need to some a model which would make a good road |
| 03:55.28 | Kenoli | Hehe |
| 03:55.41 | Kenoli | It runs fine in xp compatibility mode |
| 03:55.59 | Kenoli | That's actually kind of retarded |
| 03:59.12 | Bounty | So apparently, this was a smart move to add this into Photon Discs JademusSreg lol |
| 03:59.15 | Bounty | very popular |
| 03:59.22 | Bounty | so far atleast |
| 03:59.34 | Bounty | Care to test with us? |
| 04:03.38 | JademusSreg | Sorry. Doing stuff. |
| 04:05.06 | Zandose | ng |
| 04:05.09 | Zandose | gn |
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| 04:51.10 | Kenoli | This user type thingy seems interesting |
| 05:08.40 | Currydevil | Bounty, are you still tweaking? |
| 05:23.59 | Kenoli | Oh wow |
| 05:24.22 | Kenoli | The giant face that takes up most of the interface |
| 05:24.32 | Kenoli | Now it takes up the entire interface. |
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| 05:35.46 | IDEATH | Is it possible to make a map that saves player data after they leave? |
| 05:35.55 | IDEATH | as in levels for a hero |
| 05:37.35 | IDEATH | hello? |
| 05:37.55 | JademusSreg | You can do it -when- they leave. |
| 05:42.36 | Kenoli | Am I supposed to be able to log in with the editor |
| 05:43.04 | Kueken | you even have to |
| 05:43.26 | JademusSreg | Yep. |
| 05:43.27 | Kueken | if you didn't log on to battlenet for a while, the editor asks you to log in |
| 05:43.39 | JademusSreg | And test map launching needs to be validated, as well. |
| 05:43.54 | Kenoli | The 1.5 beta editor that is |
| 05:44.18 | Kueken | okay, cannot talk about that ;) |
| 05:44.21 | Kenoli | It complains about versions or whatever |
| 05:44.23 | JademusSreg | Yes. Could be a security measure for the patch testing, could be part of their streaming service. |
| 05:44.45 | Kenoli | But there appear to be some maps published in the beta |
| 05:44.56 | Kenoli | Maybe other people have better access |
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| 07:50.08 | JademusSreg | http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/05/11/dues-and-dotas-valve-and-blizzard-reach-agreement/ |
| 07:50.30 | JademusSreg | Rebranded as Blizzard All-Stars. |
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| 08:38.46 | Kueken | heh |
| 08:39.09 | Kueken | just looked at a 3ds max tutorial for modeling a female character model |
| 08:39.16 | Kueken | 550 pages |
| 08:39.25 | Kueken | now thats motivating :D |
| 08:39.35 | Lajla | Why does the editor have those arbitrary restrictions of x textures per map, x cliffs per map, x cliff levels per map blablabla |
| 08:40.35 | Kueken | performance, one would assume. By limiting everything, you can simplify the involved systems substantially |
| 08:41.34 | Lajla | yeah but.. the amount of textures? |
| 08:41.34 | Kueken | from what I was told, especially the limit on cliff levels improved performance substantially compared to WC3s unlimited cliff level handling |
| 08:41.49 | Lajla | WC3 had unlimited eh? |
| 08:41.52 | Lajla | So it was a step back |
| 08:41.59 | Kueken | indeed |
| 08:42.07 | Kueken | wc3 also supported more textures |
| 08:42.10 | Lajla | Can't they just make a switch for that then? |
| 08:42.24 | Lajla | As, in you have to explicitly mark your map to allow for it |
| 08:42.29 | Lajla | because 3 cliff levels is not a lot |
| 08:42.49 | Kueken | well, would be great to be able to use more |
| 08:43.18 | Kueken | same for the map publish space, why give 20 mb to everyone when 90% will never use it |
| 08:43.49 | Kueken | could just as well make people toggle, if they want to use it or not |
| 08:43.57 | Lajla | Probably because the 20mb they give to everyone accounts for that most people don't use it. |
| 08:44.23 | Kueken | well, it is probably handled dynamically internally anyway |
| 08:45.13 | Kueken | so they don't have like thousands of serverspace terabytes lying around dorment. |
| 08:45.28 | Kueken | still feels awkward |
| 08:45.58 | Lajla | Yeah, that I mean |
| 08:46.06 | Lajla | Still something different than cliff level though |
| 08:46.13 | Kueken | yes |
| 08:46.25 | Lajla | Seems like a really awkward step backwards |
| 08:46.51 | Kueken | and sadly I don't expect any changes for these in patch 1.5 or HotS |
| 08:47.19 | Kueken | I think, a blue post explicitly stated there will be no changes to texture and cliff level counts |
| 08:47.46 | Kueken | but I am not sure |
| 08:48.07 | Kueken | hopefully, you can call me a liar again ;) |
| 08:48.36 | Lajla | I would never do that |
| 08:48.48 | Lajla | you are the almighty, the merciful, the most merciful of all. |
| 08:49.22 | Lajla | Kueken, so, you make melee maps or full out UMS/Mods? |
| 08:49.35 | Kueken | never made a melee map |
| 08:49.47 | Kueken | I suck at terraining |
| 08:49.48 | Kueken | :) |
| 08:50.44 | Lajla | Ahhh |
| 08:50.49 | Lajla | what kind of stuff do you make then? |
| 08:50.54 | Kueken | I do some custom maps, but mostly playing around with the editor, creating data assets, experimenting, trying to figure out interesting things the editor is capable of |
| 08:51.24 | Lajla | Ahh, a pure scientist |
| 08:51.25 | Lajla | I can respect that |
| 08:51.34 | Kueken | http://h11.abload.de/img/baneblade1vk9q.jpg |
| 08:51.51 | Lajla | You made that in th eeditor/ |
| 08:51.54 | Kueken | that one turned out quite nicely |
| 08:51.57 | Kueken | yes |
| 08:51.58 | Lajla | Uber tank? |
| 08:52.17 | Kueken | its a baneblade from WH40K |
| 08:52.35 | Kueken | consists of mostly SC2 assets |
| 08:52.47 | Kueken | some of them cut in a model editor |
| 08:53.12 | Kueken | and retextured using ingame textures as well |
| 08:54.06 | Lajla | Kueken, you play sc2 though? |
| 08:54.12 | Kueken | hardly |
| 08:54.26 | Kueken | sometimes at funmap nights |
| 08:54.53 | Kueken | and played about 10? melee matches, I think |
| 08:56.20 | Xaragoth | my god |
| 08:56.26 | Xaragoth | TSW actually makes me use my brain |
| 08:56.30 | Xaragoth | that's a first for a MMO |
| 08:56.35 | Xaragoth | also it makes me use google ~~ |
| 08:56.48 | Xaragoth | fake websites and shit set up by the developers related to the games story |
| 08:56.51 | Xaragoth | very nicely done |
| 08:58.39 | Kueken | can you connect 3 polys at one edge in max? |
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| 08:59.31 | Kueken | cannot find anything related when using google, probably not using the right keywords |
| 08:59.52 | Kueken | Xaragoth, you are a 3dsmax pro, right? :D |
| 09:00.00 | Xaragoth | no that's otixa |
| 09:00.25 | Xaragoth | but I think you should be able to |
| 09:00.35 | Xaragoth | not that you should |
| 09:00.47 | Xaragoth | someone might break your nose for doing that |
| 09:00.47 | Xaragoth | :p |
| 09:00.52 | Kueken | I tried to just extrude a poly from an edge with shift |
| 09:01.12 | Kueken | but that only works for border polys |
| 09:09.33 | Lajla | Kueken, I see. |
| 09:09.35 | Lajla | I'm master league |
| 09:09.36 | Lajla | I win |
| 09:09.40 | Lajla | I am the 1% |
| 09:09.42 | Lajla | Or ehh |
| 09:09.42 | Lajla | 2 |
| 09:09.48 | Kueken | gz |
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| 09:09.57 | Lajla | Well, 0.5-ish percent honestly |
| 09:10.01 | Lajla | as a top 8 master player |
| 09:10.10 | Lajla | I am actually good at this game, who would have thought |
| 09:22.08 | IDEATH | lol |
| 09:22.23 | IDEATH | top 8 master? hell yeah your good |
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| 09:31.47 | Xapti | I'm somewhere around there too (or at the least WAS around there), although I've never used all my points playing to the end of a season to prove it |
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| 09:36.34 | Xapti | That baneblade looks great. Does the top turret rotate? |
| 09:37.44 | Xapti | I personally thinkg the cliff, but especially teexture limitations are super-silly. Having limits is excellent, but the limits should be larger than what blizzard uses for their own maps and purposes |
| 09:38.09 | Xapti | I just don't get how having 16 terrain textures changes much compared to 8 |
| 09:38.50 | Xapti | people could just circumvent it by manual methods which will just degrade the performance even worse |
| 09:39.43 | Kueken | the baneblade is fully functional, with rotating main gun, side turrets and laser beams |
| 09:40.26 | Kueken | the animations look a little crude, though, since faking them with actors is not the most dynamic thing you could ask for :) |
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| 10:19.30 | Vexal | who else has gotten the arcade beta email> |
| 10:19.36 | Vexal | i can't find proof it is legitimate. |
| 10:19.43 | Vexal | i haven't seen any official posting about it |
| 10:19.44 | ducky | I think it is |
| 10:19.55 | Vexal | i downoaded the exe, but delete dit before running it |
| 10:20.36 | ducky | I know that blizz said that they would invite other mappers in closed alpha test as time goes by |
| 10:20.59 | Kueken | Eiviyn got one, JademusSreg as well |
| 10:21.01 | ducky | and it's alpha, not even beta, so.. doubt blizz would announce it |
| 10:21.08 | Vexal | when did the invites start going out? |
| 10:21.09 | Kueken | and some other ppl |
| 10:21.14 | Vexal | did everyone get the invite today? |
| 10:21.19 | Kueken | no |
| 10:21.44 | ducky | there was a small mount og ppl who got it around 2 and a half weeks ago |
| 10:21.53 | ducky | and it seems that today was a "new wave" |
| 10:22.41 | Vexal | does this imply i'm not first pick for blizzard |
| 10:22.43 | Kueken | I should probably check my mail ;) |
| 10:22.53 | ducky | btw vexal |
| 10:23.01 | ducky | I checked your link, it's legit |
| 10:23.08 | Vexal | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/4926492822?page=1#5 i posted this |
| 10:23.12 | Vexal | how do you know it's legit? |
| 10:23.14 | Vexal | what did you check it with? |
| 10:23.17 | Kueken | however, I most certainly got none, since I don't have any successful map |
| 10:23.48 | ducky | I checked it with mine ;] |
| 10:23.54 | Vexal | i mean |
| 10:23.57 | Vexal | how do you know yours is real? |
| 10:24.12 | ducky | cause I've been in alpha sice 2 weeks ago |
| 10:24.18 | Vexal | ever since i played diablo and i fell for /dnd -password- -account- |
| 10:24.26 | Vexal | how do you know it's not some elaborate scheme |
| 10:24.32 | Vexal | where hackers build an entire infrastructure |
| 10:24.34 | Vexal | identical to battlenet |
| 10:24.40 | Vexal | with |
| 10:24.47 | Vexal | billions of dollars worth of stable server architecture |
| 10:25.00 | ducky | that would be quite interesting indeed |
| 10:25.17 | ducky | I feel I'd rather play on hackers created infrastructure then :D |
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| 10:25.29 | ducky | at least it's something new |
| 10:25.33 | ducky | >.< |
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| 11:02.57 | tordy | wassup dudes |
| 11:03.00 | tordy | waddap |
| 11:04.36 | tordy | anyone got into the arcade beta? |
| 11:06.34 | Vexal | i just did |
| 11:06.35 | Vexal | it's cool |
| 11:06.41 | Vexal | i sent feedback to the email... |
| 11:06.52 | Vexal | it looks like a lot of work though to update maps to work with it... |
| 11:08.06 | RipperRoo | is doubotis here sometimes ? and is his irc nickname doubotis too ? :S |
| 11:08.08 | tordy | i noticed a few really great features, like being able select them mode |
| 11:08.26 | tordy | finally dont need to use a voting system in the map |
| 11:09.02 | Vexal | if i update my map now |
| 11:09.06 | Vexal | will it work with the final version |
| 11:09.14 | tordy | i didnt update anything and the map played fine |
| 11:09.26 | Vexal | is this patch for hots |
| 11:09.29 | Vexal | or just an upcoming patch |
| 11:09.35 | tordy | looks like an upcoming |
| 11:09.59 | Vexal | i don't want people to be able to review my maps |
| 11:10.04 | Vexal | i fear rejection. |
| 11:10.17 | tordy | there's gonna be negative reviews for any map |
| 11:10.19 | tordy | and posititve |
| 11:10.22 | tordy | so no problemo |
| 11:10.40 | Vexal | but i made mine hardcore and unforgiving |
| 11:10.51 | Vexal | i'm used to people disregarding it after trying it once. |
| 11:10.58 | Vexal | but i don't want that shown to me with little stars. |
| 11:11.52 | tordy | newbies are prob gonna try it anyway because they dont read reviews |
| 11:12.07 | tordy | this is not like buying a product where you should thoroughly read reviews before trying |
| 11:12.11 | tordy | it's a game where you try new thigns |
| 11:13.18 | tordy | is there an NDA for the beta? |
| 11:13.35 | tordy | skimmed through it but didnt notice anything bout NDA |
| 11:13.38 | Kueken | is it beta yet? |
| 11:13.48 | Kueken | thought it was still closed alpha |
| 11:13.55 | Vexal | it says it's alpha |
| 11:14.16 | tordy | email says beta, in-game says alpha |
| 11:14.29 | Kueken | Eiviyn posted, that you have to agree to an NDA upon installation |
| 11:14.37 | Vexal | i read the thing you hit agree to |
| 11:14.39 | Vexal | i couldn't find an nda |
| 11:15.32 | Kueken | well, its not like anyone could control it at this point, anyway |
| 11:15.33 | ducky | It's an alpha of beta patch :s |
| 11:16.42 | ducky | I remember there was an nda, but yeah, they really should point it out in e-mail :l |
| 11:16.59 | tordy | hello |
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| 11:17.23 | Habaneros | Howdy. |
| 11:17.29 | ducky | greetings |
| 11:17.51 | Habaneros | Trying to get my head around requirements... I'd like an ability to only be usable and shown, if the casting unit is stationary (not moving) AND is nearby a starport? |
| 11:18.50 | Kueken | there is a not moving validator |
| 11:19.04 | Kueken | you cannot check validators in requirements, though |
| 11:19.19 | Habaneros | I managed to create a behaviour in the past... that would damage a unit periodically if it was moving? |
| 11:19.24 | Kueken | so you probably want to use a behavior, which uses the validator |
| 11:19.35 | Habaneros | And.. Count Unit Starport Completeted at Unit, didn't work... |
| 11:19.39 | Kueken | this behavior can be checked by the requirement |
| 11:19.43 | Habaneros | So... I should give my starport a search area, apply behaviour? |
| 11:19.48 | Habaneros | Then make the ability require that behaviour? |
| 11:19.57 | Kueken | that would be a possibility |
| 11:20.13 | Kueken | or you can use an enum area validator, that checks for starportd |
| 11:20.15 | Kueken | *s |
| 11:21.44 | Vexal | wow |
| 11:21.47 | Vexal | the UI editor is really cool |
| 11:21.51 | Vexal | i wish they had this 2 years ago |
| 11:21.57 | tordy | UI editor you say? |
| 11:22.02 | Vexal | yeah |
| 11:22.03 | tordy | ima check that right now! |
| 11:28.52 | Vexal | i can't figure out how to start a game |
| 11:28.58 | Vexal | is there any way to enter a lobby without a full team? |
| 11:29.17 | tordy | you can make a private game cant you? |
| 11:29.23 | Vexal | yeah |
| 11:29.26 | Vexal | but then no one can join |
| 11:29.52 | tordy | there's like no one right now maybe that's why |
| 11:30.06 | Vexal | some maps are impossible to find full lobbies |
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| 11:45.52 | tordy | wassup |
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| 13:04.55 | RipperRoo | hey someone here using the questline library from doubotis ? |
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| 14:35.14 | RipperRoo | i guess that means no :S |
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| 14:59.40 | Dustin | hiii |
| 15:09.21 | RipperRoo | does dds support transparency ? .o |
| 15:09.31 | RipperRoo | or does it always show it as black ? :o |
| 15:09.43 | Dustin | yes |
| 15:09.55 | Dustin | you need to mess with the alpha channle though |
| 15:10.12 | RipperRoo | hmmm |
| 15:14.16 | Dustin | Fuck you blizzard! not inviting me to test this new arcade system |
| 15:14.25 | RipperRoo | did not work damnit :S |
| 15:14.31 | RipperRoo | oh there was an invite? |
| 15:14.45 | Dustin | yeah |
| 15:15.14 | Dustin | Its only editor changes |
| 15:15.33 | Dustin | And I mean its not like almost every one of my maps have been stoped due to shit in the editor not working |
| 15:16.38 | Dustin | holy fuck Tower DefensE tycoon got to the top fastr |
| 15:16.39 | RipperRoo | lol thats hard^^ |
| 15:18.57 | Vailreth | i want the new patch damnit all |
| 15:20.40 | Dustin | Wow this Tower Defense tycoon map intro is stupid as fuck |
| 15:23.19 | Dustin | How the fuck does that have 14000 hours played |
| 15:23.37 | Dustin | That blows my mind, it's like a crapy Element TD |
| 15:28.32 | Mexa | [17:15] <Dustin> Its only editor changes |
| 15:28.37 | Mexa | Oh really. |
| 15:29.54 | Mexa | ... stupid weather. |
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| 16:16.12 | JademusSreg | Pew pew |
| 16:18.57 | Ahli | pew pew? this? http://vimeo.com/19687592 |
| 16:20.14 | JademusSreg | Cool. |
| 16:21.21 | JademusSreg | So it takes voice input to fire, and increases the pitch and outputs it. |
| 16:23.28 | JademusSreg | Or is the pitch&output just a part of the demonstration done with different equipment? |
| 16:23.42 | JademusSreg | Er, separate equipment. |
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| 16:49.16 | Xaragoth | So, I got my "Book of Cain" |
| 16:49.24 | Xaragoth | I must say, it's quite nicely done. |
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| 18:43.14 | Zolden | Guys, how to interpret this "Added support to define lighting regions in the game world"? |
| 18:43.25 | Zolden | i just don't get what it means, but i feel it's something i need |
| 18:47.45 | Mexa | Zolden, did you get into the beta? |
| 18:48.59 | Zolden | it's a quote from the thread, someone posted the list of changes |
| 18:49.08 | Zolden | they never invite me to anything |
| 18:54.39 | Vailreth | nor was i invited |
| 18:54.43 | Kueken1 | afaik this just means, that you can change lighting in a region, instead of just changing it globally |
| 18:54.57 | Vailreth | but then they always ignored my bug reports anyway so meh |
| 18:55.11 | Kenoli | Jade |
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| 19:01.16 | Xapti | woah that sounds crazy kueken |
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| 19:15.01 | Xapti | the thing I'm bothered about Arcade is that you still can't join games like WC3 or SC1 as far as I understan |
| 19:15.37 | Xapti | you have to join a random fun-or-not game, instead of seeing what game might interest you out of the available games |
| 19:17.10 | Mexa | I never thought battle.net 0.1 list was a good enough. |
| 19:18.22 | Mexa | It was clearly faulty designed when it now prooved it being exploitble. |
| 19:47.41 | Currydevil | Woo, all I need now is a loading screen, a couple more anims and i'm done. |
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| 20:33.01 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 20:37.44 | Kenoli | Do you know about user data |
| 20:37.53 | Ahli | wow, some of the additions to sc2 sound awesome :) |
| 20:39.46 | Dustin | Is there al sit of them? |
| 20:39.48 | Dustin | a list* |
| 20:40.42 | Ahli | in the thread on mapster someone copied what someone on another forum wrote. |
| 20:42.35 | JademusSreg | And anyone in on the testing has received an email. |
| 20:44.01 | JademusSreg | User Type data allows the user to define statically instanced databases, basically, and it is accessed by triggers using the UserData API. |
| 20:44.24 | JademusSreg | You define Fields and Instances. |
| 20:44.44 | JademusSreg | Fields determine the value types for the Instances. |
| 20:49.26 | Ahli | 4 to 10 times as much script space... I guess I will start to save all references for my inventories instead of rebuilding the whole thing on change... that's what I used to do for like every dialog atm to reduce variable count. |
| 20:50.07 | Dustin | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/general-chat/36783-sc2-arcade-alpha/?page=4#p76 |
| 20:52.07 | Xapti | where's the value that lets you change game rounding? for like movemet speed and such? |
| 20:52.43 | Xapti | I thought it was in game UI data or gameplay settings, but couldn't find it |
| 20:53.49 | Ahli | The tutorials are a separate map? |
| 20:53.54 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 20:54.00 | JademusSreg | Well, you define that. |
| 20:54.18 | JademusSreg | The tutorial can be a separate map or a mode of the same map. |
| 20:54.25 | Ahli | cool stuff |
| 20:54.57 | Ahli | I guess I will have a lot of fun doing new stuff ;D |
| 20:55.14 | Xapti | displayed movement speed or attack speed. I rememberseeing it somewhere a year or more ago, but I don't remember where |
| 20:56.00 | Ahli | UI game settings I guess |
| 20:57.58 | Dustin | omg |
| 20:57.59 | Dustin | Added support for passing structure, array, and function references as function parameters |
| 20:58.03 | Dustin | Best change ever |
| 21:00.47 | JademusSreg | I'm not clear on the syntax for that, actually. |
| 21:01.14 | JademusSreg | I have been poking and prodding the code for 2 weeks, and have not figured it out, I am not pleased to admit. =\ |
| 21:02.24 | RipperRooX | :O |
| 21:02.34 | RipperRooX | jade does not solve something.. ii am not pleased either! |
| 21:03.18 | Kenoli | How do you use lighting regions |
| 21:03.19 | JademusSreg | It could be that it wasn't implemented until the beta phase. |
| 21:03.29 | Ahli | how big is a lighting region? is it the same as water is now? ;S |
| 21:03.30 | JademusSreg | Lighting regions are regions of light. =D |
| 21:03.41 | JademusSreg | I figured light regions were painted? |
| 21:03.58 | Xapti | the concept of lighting regions seems weird to me |
| 21:04.25 | Kenoli | You can have four light regions |
| 21:04.55 | Kenoli | The resolution is 4x4 per tile and they blend |
| 21:05.02 | Kenoli | I don't know how to like assign lights to them though |
| 21:05.02 | Xapti | cool |
| 21:05.19 | RipperRooX | how you get access to arcade beta ? :o |
| 21:06.45 | Ahli | you receive a mail that looks like spam from what I've heard |
| 21:13.06 | Kenoli | This is interesting |
| 21:13.32 | Kenoli | If you set an area to not have any of the four lighting regions |
| 21:13.36 | Kenoli | It's completely black |
| 21:13.54 | Ahli | black black? |
| 21:14.00 | Ahli | or dark gray black? |
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| 21:16.45 | Kenoli | http://i47.tinypic.com/15plabt.jpg |
| 21:18.47 | Xapti | did you manually sprinkle those dots, or why's it ike that? |
| 21:19.01 | Kenoli | I did it like that |
| 21:19.33 | Xapti | that looks interesting for a cutom fog of war, because right now the fog of war has terrible precision in SC2, plus it has a mandatory fade/gradient |
| 21:20.05 | Kenoli | http://i46.tinypic.com/2m5bcz4.jpg |
| 21:20.19 | Kenoli | The edges of the fog of war are super sharp in this |
| 21:20.23 | Ahli | I want water to be like that |
| 21:20.38 | Ahli | not the huge ass things which you need to build your map around :S |
| 21:21.42 | Xapti | yeah I can tell. But is it editable via triggers too? |
| 21:22.02 | Mexa | Again, not trying to be a douche, but why does so many people have problems with reading and accepting a terms of agreement? |
| 21:22.11 | Xapti | would probably be a real mess (lots of work) to make a custom FOV/FoW system using it even if it was possible though |
| 21:22.53 | Xapti | and I'd wonder if the game engine be good enough to execute it fast enough too |
| 21:23.21 | Mexa | You're emailed about the arcade alpha/beta to be QA for Blizzard, and agreed that you shouldn't, among some things, photocopy from the game. |
| 21:23.56 | Mexa | It's as bad as it would have been given to a journalist, and they broke the deal by revealing information. |
| 21:24.19 | Kenoli | Were you talking about something in particular |
| 21:24.32 | Mexa | No just in general. |
| 21:24.48 | Mexa | But it reminded be, since you uploaded photos. |
| 21:24.58 | Mexa | And that other guy who is livestreaming. |
| 21:29.18 | Dustin | they've had future changelogs on thier site forever |
| 21:29.25 | Dustin | I dont know why people are all screaming NDA |
| 21:29.37 | Mexa | DUstin, are you in the beta? |
| 21:29.43 | Dustin | Nope |
| 21:29.43 | Mexa | or alpha |
| 21:29.54 | Mexa | Then you don't know what the agreement was ._ |
| 21:31.58 | Dustin | Im pretty sure I just said I didn't know |
| 21:32.11 | Dustin | Why are you confirming this? |
| 21:33.27 | Mexa | It sounded like you thought it wasn't a big deal. |
| 21:34.05 | Dustin | Well I mean it's not, but I still don't know what it is |
| 21:37.43 | Ahli | Does the lighting still affect world tooltips like tooltips you put on a unit or can these be separated? Like when you make the light darker, the tooltips of units or text tags become darker, too. |
| 21:38.58 | Mexa | Bah, up to oneself then. |
| 21:40.36 | Ahli | kenoli, you are grand master :D |
| 21:40.51 | Kenoli | Rank 1 grandmaster |
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| 21:51.22 | Kenoli | Height blend scale, height blend cutofff |
| 21:51.28 | Kenoli | What do these do |
| 22:00.11 | Mexa | Derpderp, I'm wrong, you're all right |
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| 22:05.36 | Zolden | guys, i have a noob question |
| 22:06.07 | JademusSreg | The answer is yes. |
| 22:06.17 | Zolden | thnx alot |
| 22:06.38 | JademusSreg | Glad to help. |
| 22:06.42 | Ahli | :D |
| 22:06.58 | Zolden | I have a unit with a model with turretZ (it's actually drakken tripod tower) and I gave it an ability, but unit doesn't turn its turret to face ability target |
| 22:07.34 | JademusSreg | Turrets don't respond to abilities under normal circumstances. |
| 22:07.43 | Zolden | If it would be a weapon, i'd add a turret and it would turn... |
| 22:07.59 | Zolden | so, how to make the turret to respond? |
| 22:08.23 | JademusSreg | The simplest solution is to make the ability apply a behavior that effectively marks the unit as a target, and make a weapon that validates that behavior is present. |
| 22:08.24 | Ahli | spell check for text??? is that new? |
| 22:09.14 | Zolden | my ability attacks points, not units |
| 22:09.47 | JademusSreg | And what happens when it attacks the points? |
| 22:09.55 | JademusSreg | Rather, what is the intended result? |
| 22:09.59 | Zolden | it suuposed to launch a missile |
| 22:10.54 | Zolden | just simple persistent->launch_damage thing |
| 22:10.54 | JademusSreg | Here's some work I did with turrets to make them face targets: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/StarCraft%202/Defunct/BossXelNagaAI.SC2Map |
| 22:11.28 | Zolden | ok, gonna check it out |
| 22:12.17 | Zolden | where to see? what ability, what unit? |
| 22:12.47 | JademusSreg | If you test it, you'll know where to start looking. Er, assuming I haven't messed with it and made it untestable. |
| 22:13.10 | JademusSreg | But the unit that use turrets are Ancillary Drones and Perimeter Turrets. |
| 22:13.15 | JademusSreg | *units |
| 22:14.33 | JademusSreg | Perimeter Turrets attack by raking a beam across the ground, and also participate in a counter-attack combo. |
| 22:15.10 | Zolden | ok, checking perimeter turret |
| 22:15.51 | Zolden | it onlly has weapons ;/ |
| 22:17.26 | JademusSreg | Yes. That's sort of my point; I force it to use weapons by validating the behavior count of a buff that functions as a target marker. |
| 22:17.51 | JademusSreg | Because turrets don't care about abilities. |
| 22:18.13 | JademusSreg | At least, not pre-1.5; I've not yet tested if that's changed. |
| 22:18.54 | Zolden | ok, i got it |
| 22:19.13 | Zolden | ty |
| 22:19.19 | JademusSreg | No problem. |
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| 22:33.08 | Bounty | Hay Guyz |
| 22:33.41 | JademusSreg | Hi thar. |
| 22:34.11 | Bounty | Anyone seen Xaragoth? I have the new cycle morph update for Photon Discs ready for him |
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| 23:31.54 | Mexa| | http://imgur.com/KItfg :D |
| 23:32.20 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 23:32.33 | JademusSreg | Or rather, Hahawww. |
| 23:37.02 | Kenoli | I managed to funnel a bunch of people into a public channel in the alpha beta whatever thing |
| 23:38.02 | Kenoli | Apparently anyone that gets the download link can play |
| 23:38.25 | JademusSreg | imagines an achievement for that. The Mod Squad: Herd 20 people into a single channel during beta testing. |
| 23:39.51 | Mexa| | Anyone can play, huh? |
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| 23:55.24 | Bounty | So apparently people really like being able to morph into a cycle Mexa lol |
| 23:57.35 | Mexa| | That's great |
| 23:58.36 | Bounty | Yeah, it turned out pretty cool looks wise |
| 23:58.54 | Bounty | and decided not to go with the traditional, blocks of light trail though... made a trail of electricity |
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| 23:59.18 | Bounty | Just waiting on Xaragoth so i can send it to him to upload |
| 23:59.41 | Khalanil | anyone around who uploads maps to the mapster front page? |
