| 00:05.13 | Dustin | Sorry |
| 00:05.27 | Dustin | Had someone whos interested in buying my old car showup |
| 00:05.33 | JademusSreg | No worries. |
| 00:06.27 | Dustin | k, uploading |
| 00:07.28 | Dustin | fuck, my editor crashed |
| 00:07.40 | JademusSreg | Right as I was about to launch the game. |
| 00:07.49 | Dustin | one sec |
| 00:09.07 | Dustin | k loggin on |
| 00:10.23 | JademusSreg | Cache read error. |
| 00:10.30 | Dustin | hmmm |
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| 00:47.31 | Repo | New map: Island Troll Tribes Remake - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/island-troll-tribes-remake/ |
| 00:49.19 | Taintedwisp | got danget lol |
| 00:58.16 | Taintedwisp | HMMMMMMMMMMMM |
| 00:59.05 | Taintedwisp | This stupid problem.... What the hell is causing it... |
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| 01:05.34 | Dustin | brb JademusSreg |
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| 01:43.57 | Zandose | hey |
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| 01:49.40 | Taintedwisp | Jademus, I found out what my problem was... |
| 01:49.52 | Taintedwisp | You cant use the build on setting, with No Draw flag on |
| 01:53.12 | JademusSreg | Hm... |
| 01:53.37 | JademusSreg | I'll need to test that, when I get around to it. |
| 01:54.28 | Taintedwisp | yeah, if the model isnt drawn then it will say out of range.... |
| 01:54.29 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 01:55.39 | JademusSreg | Try removing No Draw and set it the actor to use the Invisible model. |
| 01:55.41 | Zandose | Besides banks, can any other trigger write outside of the game? I want to create a list of doodads. |
| 01:55.59 | JademusSreg | Zandose, yes. |
| 01:56.17 | JademusSreg | OR rather, trigger is not the right term here. |
| 01:56.25 | JademusSreg | TriggerDebugOutput (int type, text inText, bool includeGameUI); |
| 01:56.55 | JademusSreg | Before that, you'll want to configure the output file using TriggerDebugSetTypeFile (int type, string file); |
| 01:57.10 | JademusSreg | Example code: |
| 01:57.50 | Zandose | i see |
| 01:57.52 | Zandose | thank you |
| 01:58.18 | JademusSreg | void OutputShit () { int debugType = 1; TriggerDebugSetTypeFile(debugType,"Shit.txt"); TriggerDebugOutput(debugType,StringToText("shit"),false); } |
| 01:59.33 | Zandose | ill try that later. thank you |
| 01:59.53 | JademusSreg | The output file will appear in the UserLogs subdirectory of the StarCraft 2 subdirectory of your documents directory. |
| 02:00.55 | Zandose | good to know |
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| 02:45.26 | Currydevil | is it possible to save a camera target so I can recall that point when I revert back to the default camera? |
| 02:45.58 | Dustin | Set point = Target of Camera |
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| 03:23.58 | Currydevil | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:24.00 | Currydevil | and |
| 03:24.03 | Currydevil | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:24.09 | Currydevil | something is not working -.- |
| 03:24.36 | Currydevil | the camera is set back to the default camera, and it won't move from the bottom left corner of the map |
| 03:31.31 | Currydevil | so long as I don't mess with locking/unlocking the camera then it doesn't get stuck in the bottom corner. But it doesn't make sense that it's not saving the camera position |
| 03:34.23 | Dustin | Try setting a camera variable |
| 03:34.29 | Dustin | Instead of generic Default Camera |
| 03:34.55 | A1win | hmm I thought there was a way to render a portrait above a dialog item, but somehow they're showing below them all the time now |
| 03:39.24 | Currydevil | variable didn't do anything |
| 03:39.41 | Currydevil | then again, all I did was set it with the default camera object. |
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| 03:45.14 | the_music | whats the best way to upgrade a structure.. aka "level1, 2, etc" and change its actor.. by using a morph ability? |
| 03:49.17 | Currydevil | yes |
| 03:49.40 | the_music | how do you change the actor of a unit though when it uses a morph |
| 03:50.09 | Currydevil | you set events on both unit actors that tell it when to create the new actor and when to kill the old one |
| 03:50.11 | A1win | ahh had to do a wait before changing the portrait's render type to LDR, then it shows on top of dialog O.o |
| 03:51.36 | Currydevil | look at the viking actor |
| 03:51.42 | Currydevil | or siege tank |
| 03:55.22 | the_music | ah hm |
| 04:02.02 | ZOIDMASTER | JademusSreg, you like me more than you like Kueken right? |
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| 04:05.10 | the_music | i love it when searching the data editor freezes stuff :D |
| 04:10.07 | the_music | so if i have the morph ability on barracks 1 to morph to barracks 2, i want the actor event on barracks 1 or barracks 2? |
| 04:10.50 | Currydevil | you will put an event on both |
| 04:11.06 | Currydevil | maybe 2 |
| 04:11.10 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/cc/0.118/Screenshot2012-05-08%2007_09_18.jpg |
| 04:11.11 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/cc/0.118/Screenshot2012-05-08%2007_09_23.jpg |
| 04:11.13 | Currydevil | it's been a while since i did any morphs |
| 04:11.15 | A1win | what do you think o: |
| 04:11.42 | A1win | of replacing the buttons I had before with those portraits |
| 04:12.02 | the_music | ok, will try that |
| 04:12.07 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/cc/Screenshot2012-05-03%2020_46_40.jpg <- that was before |
| 04:12.23 | A1win | (and I'll add more portraits as rewards etc) |
| 04:12.33 | Currydevil | Looks fine I suppose A1, i don't know what you had befor.e |
| 04:12.50 | Currydevil | I will give you an example in a sec music |
| 04:13.04 | A1win | that last screen is what I had before |
| 04:13.52 | A1win | plus now I have room for a vote kick button :x |
| 04:15.00 | the_music | nah what you said worked curry |
| 04:15.05 | Currydevil | ok |
| 04:15.22 | the_music | needed the destroy on start 1, create on finish 2 |
| 04:15.27 | the_music | nice |
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| 04:17.09 | Zandose | Via triggers, can you get the name of a doodad in-game? |
| 04:30.04 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 04:30.50 | JademusSreg | You mean a preplaced doodad or a run-time created actor? |
| 04:33.04 | Zandose | pre-placed one. I want to save the name to a external file |
| 04:34.06 | Zandose | I found "ActorGetText(ActorFromDoodad()), but it gives too much info |
| 04:34.42 | Kueken | ActorGetText is about the only thing you can get from a doodad |
| 04:35.06 | Zandose | also I need to select each doodad one at a time in triggers instead of using a loop |
| 04:35.13 | Zandose | ic |
| 04:35.19 | Kueken | since a doodad is just an actor, and actors are handled asynchronously, so you cannot get any synchronous data from them |
| 04:35.27 | JademusSreg | Get the actor type and use a catalog call to get the editor name. |
| 04:35.41 | Kueken | you cannot even get the type afaik |
| 04:36.05 | JademusSreg | Haha, I mistakenly assumed. |
| 04:36.25 | JademusSreg | What does text return? |
| 04:36.33 | Kueken | at least I tried it a while ago and didn't find out, how to get an actortype from an actor |
| 04:36.41 | Zandose | oh well. just more time consuming to select the doodads by hand |
| 04:37.23 | JademusSreg | Unfortunate. |
| 04:37.26 | Kueken | you could probably do a workaroud for that |
| 04:37.37 | Zandose | ? |
| 04:37.42 | JademusSreg | But Zan, you could use units. |
| 04:37.50 | Kueken | like send a reference message to all doodads and then get the reference |
| 04:37.59 | Kueken | something like that, not sure, if it will work |
| 04:38.07 | JademusSreg | And the unit actors could make the magic happen, so to speak. |
| 04:38.35 | Kueken | units are a little heavier on the performance, though |
| 04:38.46 | JademusSreg | Yep. |
| 04:38.53 | Kueken | also not that easy to manipulate within the editor |
| 04:39.05 | Zandose | I don't know how to do that. |
| 04:39.07 | JademusSreg | I disagree; I love working with units. =D |
| 04:39.31 | JademusSreg | Especially since they are much easier to group spatially and with filters. |
| 04:39.38 | Kueken | can you change their height within the editor, ithout using millions of site operations? |
| 04:39.57 | JademusSreg | I can apply a behavior. Or a modify unit effect. |
| 04:40.00 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 04:40.06 | Kueken | "within the editor2 |
| 04:40.08 | Kueken | " |
| 04:40.48 | JademusSreg | Why would I do that? It's not as though I use them instead of doodads. |
| 04:40.57 | Kueken | its hardly possible to design a more complex structure with units, if you always need to run the map for each little change |
| 04:41.01 | Kueken | well |
| 04:41.10 | JademusSreg | Rather, anything that's not purely aesthetic I make a unit. |
| 04:41.25 | Kueken | okay, thats a different story |
| 04:41.51 | Kueken | I interpreted it, that he wants to manipulate all doodads |
| 04:43.45 | Zandose | I want to pre-place doodads, use triggers to create a external list of those doodads, then recreate those doodads in-game while playing |
| 04:44.13 | JademusSreg | That sounds awful. |
| 04:44.18 | Kueken | you can create doodads at runtime? |
| 04:44.21 | JademusSreg | No. |
| 04:44.36 | Zandose | I was just doing to try creating models/actors |
| 04:44.39 | JademusSreg | You can create actors at runtime, but not doodads. |
| 04:44.48 | Zandose | going* |
| 04:45.18 | JademusSreg | wonders if sending a destroy message to a doodad's actor will remove the footprint. |
| 04:45.25 | Kueken | it won't |
| 04:45.29 | JademusSreg | Hahaha |
| 04:45.34 | JademusSreg | Awesome/terrible. |
| 04:45.55 | Zandose | I don't care about footprints. I just want the model/image name to create it anytime |
| 04:46.17 | Kueken | well, in the data editor, the actor is equal to the doodad, but I bet internally its handled differently |
| 04:46.35 | ZOIDMASTER | Kueken, my love |
| 04:46.45 | ZOIDMASTER | The merciful, the most merciful of all. |
| 04:46.54 | Kueken | o_0 |
| 04:47.02 | Kueken | you can overdo it, you know? |
| 04:47.39 | JademusSreg | Anyway, Zan, if it's just actors deforming the terrain, preplacing them seems like a waste of time, especially if you want to work with them dynamically. |
| 04:47.43 | ZOIDMASTER | Kueken, I can do anything I want |
| 04:47.44 | ZOIDMASTER | and so can you |
| 04:48.14 | JademusSreg | Better off not preplacing them at all, and creating them via trigger actions exclusively. |
| 04:48.24 | ZOIDMASTER | http://i.imgur.com/SlLkP.jpg I think I'm finally starting to get a grip on aesthetic mapmaking |
| 04:48.34 | JademusSreg | And at least then, you'll be allowed to define their actorscope easily. |
| 04:48.40 | Zandose | I'm not working with terrain deformers anymore, I gave up |
| 04:49.12 | Zandose | I can't get past the game not rendering some of the terrain |
| 04:49.15 | JademusSreg | Ah. No idea what is being discussed, then. I must have missed something while I was away. |
| 04:49.38 | Zandose | :/ |
| 04:50.07 | Zandose | I'm looking at random placement of dooads (just the model) from a list |
| 04:50.16 | Zandose | trees and stuff |
| 04:50.25 | Zandose | trees, rocks, bushs, weather |
| 04:50.37 | JademusSreg | You don' |
| 04:50.53 | JademusSreg | You don't need footprints for the trees and rocks? |
| 04:51.37 | Kueken | can always place dynamic pathing blockers alongside |
| 04:51.41 | Kueken | aka units |
| 04:51.47 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 04:51.47 | Zandose | I'll work on footprints (which I assume is like a pathing blocker) later |
| 04:51.56 | Zandose | as I cannot create real doodads on the fly |
| 04:52.10 | Kueken | don't laugh, there are premade units called dynamic pathing blockers |
| 04:52.22 | JademusSreg | I will worry about the ocean when I drive into it! Never you mind! |
| 04:52.40 | Kueken | poor ocean |
| 04:52.49 | Kueken | nobody cares |
| 04:52.59 | Kueken | and those who do already hit it |
