| 00:13.36 | Zandose | Do you know how terrain deformers stack? |
| 00:14.38 | Zandose | I tired placing two deformers at the same place (one + and the other -) and I'm getting wired results |
| 00:16.48 | Zandose | oh I figured it out. I put the wrong value into one of the negative deformers. negative deformers override positive deformers |
| 00:22.05 | A1win | ahh, made my AI execution split among script engine frames rather than doing AI for every unit every 0.25 seconds |
| 00:22.14 | A1win | should make things flow a bit smoother :P |
| 00:23.08 | Zandose | how does that work? |
| 00:23.17 | A1win | script AI |
| 00:23.26 | A1win | just a loop that does things for every unit |
| 00:24.39 | Zandose | I got the jist of that but, what do you mean by "made my AI execution split among script engine frames rather than doing AI for every unit every 0.25 seconds" |
| 00:25.12 | A1win | it takes 1/4 of the units every 0.0625 seconds and does AI for those, then takes the next part of them etc. |
| 00:25.29 | A1win | so that after 0.25 sec it has executed the script for all units |
| 00:26.34 | Zandose | oh, so you split up the task into separate threaded actions so the game wouldn't wouldn't freeze while trying to process so much |
| 00:26.49 | A1win | not threaded, just not doing them at the same time |
| 00:27.00 | Zandose | ic |
| 00:27.07 | A1win | do AI for first 1/4 of units, wait 0.0625, do AI for next 1/4 of units, wait 0.0625, ... |
| 00:27.13 | Zandose | ic ic |
| 00:27.15 | A1win | then once it's done that 4 times, it starts over |
| 00:28.43 | Zandose | I think I do something similar. whenever I have a trigger which is to much and freezes the game I split the task up into threads and a small delay between them. |
| 00:29.10 | A1win | mm |
| 00:30.13 | A1win | not sure if this is really the problem... it might be that there are just so many units and so many footprints that native pathfinding is having hard time |
| 00:30.37 | A1win | which means I'd have to decrease the number of units and make them harder instead |
| 00:30.48 | Zandose | idk. are you using data or triggers? |
| 00:30.59 | A1win | for what? |
| 00:31.11 | Zandose | for the ai |
| 00:31.16 | A1win | triggers |
| 00:31.20 | Zandose | ah |
| 00:31.35 | A1win | but pathfinding is done natively, nothing I can do about that |
| 00:31.49 | Zandose | I don't know anything about pathfinding |
| 00:33.02 | Zandose | i think i heard somewhere that triggers are bad for ai compared to data |
| 00:33.23 | A1win | no way to do this AI with data |
| 00:33.51 | Zandose | how many units? |
| 00:33.51 | A1win | anyway it's not the AI script that's eating up performance |
| 00:34.04 | Zandose | oh? |
| 00:34.13 | A1win | well, I think it isn't |
| 00:34.28 | A1win | I mean obviously it takes some, but it's probably not my issue |
| 00:34.42 | A1win | anyway making it like this can't be a bad thing compared to how it was before |
| 00:34.57 | Zandose | all depends on what its processing |
| 00:36.19 | A1win | apparently the AI loop is like 1% of my update world loop in cpu time |
| 00:36.23 | A1win | :x |
| 00:36.34 | A1win | so I guess it's the pathfinding that's causing the issues I've seen |
| 00:37.03 | Zandose | just keep debuging until you find the answer |
| 00:37.10 | Zandose | whats pathfinding do? |
| 00:37.17 | A1win | finds paths :P |
| 00:37.20 | A1win | for units |
| 00:37.33 | A1win | routes to take when moving |
| 00:38.01 | Zandose | data cant handle thaT? |
| 00:38.11 | A1win | it's done natively |
| 00:38.18 | A1win | in the game code |
| 00:38.24 | A1win | we can't do anything about it |
| 00:39.05 | Zandose | ok then the question is, if the game takes care of it and there was no problems before why doesn't it work now |
| 00:39.17 | A1win | it works o: |
| 00:39.26 | A1win | it just slows down the game at times |
| 00:39.43 | A1win | and some people apparently are dropping from the map, not many though |
| 00:40.10 | Zandose | but a normal game with 100's of units using pathfinding has no problems. whys your different? |
| 00:40.43 | A1win | it has a lot of rock units |
| 00:40.57 | A1win | nearly a thousand at a time |
| 00:41.01 | A1win | so there are a lot of footprints |
| 00:41.02 | Zandose | ah |
| 00:41.07 | A1win | making the navigation mesh very complex |
| 00:41.27 | Zandose | why would explain it i think |
| 00:41.47 | Zandose | why = that |
| 00:41.50 | A1win | mm |
| 00:42.10 | A1win | I'll probably just need to limit the number of units by a lot |
| 00:42.19 | A1win | make them harder instead of having more of them |
| 00:42.30 | Zandose | are these rocks pathing blockers? |
| 00:43.22 | A1win | yup |
| 00:43.54 | A1win | but they are a core game mechanic |
| 00:45.01 | Zandose | does the rocks move to block different paths? |
| 00:45.14 | A1win | sort of |
| 00:45.43 | A1win | as players move in the map, rocks are spawned around the players and despawned from further away (and hidden in black mask) |
| 00:46.02 | Zandose | random idea then, instead of redoing the movement-pathing lot use a trigger-event for unit idling and do pathing for that one unit |
| 00:46.06 | A1win | so that the 256x256 map doesn't have 256x256 rocks on it at the same time, but instead keeps them dynamically updated as players move |
| 00:46.19 | Zandose | oh |
| 00:46.38 | A1win | it works quite well, I'm just trying to optimize it to work even smoother |
| 00:46.40 | Zandose | doesn't doodad rocks not affect the game |
| 00:46.49 | A1win | they aren't doodads, they're units |
| 00:47.01 | A1win | because I need to be able to spawn/despawn them on-the-fly |
| 00:47.03 | Zandose | k, but why units instead of dooads |
| 00:47.15 | A1win | doodads don't update their footprints when they're removed |
| 00:47.22 | Zandose | ic |
| 00:47.27 | Zandose | that explains it |
| 00:47.36 | A1win | there are functions that supposedly update pathing, but they don't work |
| 00:47.48 | Zandose | blizzard again? |
| 00:48.06 | A1win | mm |
| 00:48.21 | Zandose | and whats mm stand for? |
| 00:48.51 | A1win | a noise that means "yes" :P |
| 00:49.04 | Zandose | never heard of that one |
| 01:04.20 | Mexa|z | It could also be mmmmmm, like in omnomnomnom. |
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| 02:32.12 | A1win | I'm wondering if I should encrypt my bank files just to make them slightly more difficult to break, or just save everything as is |
| 02:32.59 | A1win | it's just stats and stuff that doesn't affect gameplay so it doesn't *really* matter if someone modifies it |
| 02:33.46 | A1win | then again, if I do encrypt it, because it's stuff that doesn't affect gameplay, there'd be a very small chance that someone would go to the trouble of figuring it out |
| 02:34.53 | A1win | what do other maps do? |
| 02:35.38 | Currydevil | suppose it depends. |
| 02:35.51 | Currydevil | i'm not going to bother encrypting mine. it's just wins/losses |
| 02:36.14 | Currydevil | I could put in a check though to reset it to 0 if it comes back tampered with. |
| 02:36.33 | A1win | how do you know if it's tampered with? |
| 02:36.49 | A1win | some kind of a checksum? |
| 02:36.55 | Currydevil | well, i could track their wins/losses and then total games played in a completely obscure key |
| 02:37.13 | Currydevil | and then add the wins/losses together and if they don't = the total games |
| 02:37.16 | Currydevil | just clear it |
| 02:37.30 | A1win | mmm |
| 02:38.01 | Currydevil | then let them screw with trying to piece together the map again from being locked if they really want to find out why they can't boost their wins |
| 02:38.02 | Currydevil | lol |
| 02:38.08 | A1win | yeah that's better than encrypting the whole thing, makes it easier to manage |
| 02:38.12 | A1win | no need for parsers and stuff |
| 02:38.31 | Currydevil | aye, and if they decide it's worth their time to restore the map, let them =X |
| 02:38.40 | A1win | hehe |
| 02:40.17 | Currydevil | same thing with the saving of board layout |
| 02:40.42 | Currydevil | i make a loaded layout still decrease the unit count per game unit so they can't make their layout all marshals |
| 02:42.35 | A1win | I guess I'll just make some function that generates some obscure string from all the values that are being tracked, and then check if it generates the same one when the map starts for each player |
| 02:44.57 | A1win | uggh but not now, sleep time |
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| 03:23.01 | Zandose | Does anyone know why when I make a copy XML data and paste it into the editor it doesn't work? |
| 03:23.48 | JademusSreg | Depends on what you mean by "it doesn't work". |
| 03:25.00 | Zandose | I should really try harder before I ask for help. Just figured out why its not working, but solving it will be harder |
| 03:25.07 | Zandose | you know any visual basic? |
| 03:25.32 | JademusSreg | Ew. Naw, too verbose for my taste. |
| 03:26.27 | Zandose | I just learned a little in university but I don't know enough to fix this |
| 03:26.28 | JademusSreg | Also, yes, usually best to attempt to solve one's own problems. |
| 03:26.54 | JademusSreg | Elaborate "fix". |
| 03:26.58 | Zandose | I'm trying to write a program to write a XML file for data |
| 03:27.53 | JademusSreg | What does your output look like? |
| 03:28.43 | Zandose | http://www.sc2mapster.com/paste/5280/ |
| 03:29.10 | Zandose | Need to add some more " but I don't know how to do it |
| 03:31.18 | JademusSreg | Yeah, the height delta value attribute is missing the quotes. And if that's the entire file, then it's also missing the catalog element and xml format heading element. |
| 03:32.07 | Zandose | i know. one min |
| 03:34.02 | Zandose | All hail Google!. The all knowing |
| 03:34.11 | Zandose | google has saved me again |
| 03:34.14 | Zandose | all fixed |
| 03:35.28 | Zandose | ah! another problem |
| 03:36.53 | Zandose | is there a limit of 156 data items? |
| 03:37.03 | Zandose | I can't paste more then that |
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| 03:39.18 | Kueken | o_ |
| 03:39.22 | Kueken | 156? |
| 03:39.30 | Kueken | I seriously doubt that |
| 03:39.41 | Kueken | I have that much for a single hero |
| 03:40.26 | Kueken | where are you pasting into |
| 03:40.27 | Kueken | ? |
| 03:40.41 | Kueken | maybe there is a limit for the internal xml editor interface |
| 03:40.47 | Zandose | guess so |
| 03:40.58 | Kueken | you could always put the output file in the map directly |
| 03:41.00 | Zandose | it looked like theres more data in there but I can't see it all |
| 03:41.08 | Zandose | oh? |
| 03:41.28 | Kueken | a map is nothing but a file archive |
| 03:41.38 | Kueken | try saving your map as a component list |
| 03:41.50 | Kueken | save as -> select component list file type |
| 03:42.04 | Kueken | this saves your map as a bunch of files and folders |
| 03:42.28 | Kueken | which you can change individually |
| 03:42.54 | JademusSreg | You'd probably cut down on a lot of data if you were to make a parent. |
| 03:43.43 | Zandose | parent? |
| 03:44.11 | Kueken | you can make a parent data object which all child objects are based on |
| 03:44.27 | JademusSreg | Notice how data entries have an attribute in the opening markup called parent? |
| 03:44.28 | Kueken | and only the data which is different to the parent will be stored within the child |
| 03:45.22 | Kueken | so putting all data, which should be the same for all children in a parent saves a lot of repetitive data fields |
| 03:45.27 | JademusSreg | Since, as you said earlier, each one was slightly different, it would be more efficient to make a parent and have the data entries inherit from it. |
| 03:47.00 | Zandose | I like where this is going, now how do I create a parent? |
| 03:47.25 | JademusSreg | In the opening markup, after the id, you add default="1" |
| 03:50.58 | Zandose | <CActorTerrainDeformer id="Terraindeformator_H1" default="1"> |
| 03:50.59 | Zandose | ? |
| 03:53.32 | Zandose | Something like this? http://www.sc2mapster.com/paste/5281/ |
| 03:54.11 | JademusSreg | Ah, no. |
| 03:54.43 | JademusSreg | The child doesn't need a parent attribute, and that is not a valid value. |
| 03:55.04 | JademusSreg | The child should have, following the id, a parent attribute. |
| 03:55.19 | JademusSreg | parent="SomeShit" |
| 03:56.25 | Zandose | where could I find an example to look at? |
| 03:56.55 | JademusSreg | The standard XML data. |
| 04:08.45 | Zandose | well i think I got |
| 04:09.02 | Zandose | http://www.sc2mapster.com/paste/5282/ |
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| 04:37.09 | Zandose | JademusSreg, could you look at that last paste link and tell me if it looks right? It isn't working for me in triggers. |
| 04:37.55 | JademusSreg | Triggers? |
| 04:38.36 | Zandose | I tried to do the parent-child or whatever thing for the data objects |
| 04:38.51 | Zandose | then I made a trigger to use those data actors |
| 04:39.10 | Kueken | they don't seem to use parents |
| 04:39.21 | JademusSreg | ^ |
| 04:39.21 | Zandose | but I think I did something wrong because I'm getting error messages |
| 04:39.28 | Zandose | that would explain alot |
| 04:39.43 | Zandose | i have no bloody idea what I'm doing |
| 04:39.46 | JademusSreg | Also, triggers??? |
| 04:39.55 | Kueken | they need some <based on ""> line |
| 04:40.01 | Kueken | or similar |
| 04:40.03 | Zandose | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:40.12 | Zandose | the trigger to use the actors |
| 04:40.23 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 04:40.25 | Kueken | leave the trigger at first |
| 04:40.41 | Kueken | do your XML thing, then just test the actors |
| 04:40.46 | Kueken | check the trigger later |
| 04:40.56 | Zandose | k |
| 04:41.02 | Kueken | seperate possible sources of errors |
| 04:45.21 | Zandose | I'm just going to leave this for tomorrow |
| 04:45.24 | Zandose | its late |
| 04:46.03 | Zandose | good night |
| 05:06.43 | HeyRevolver | so on my map, there is one hero unit and every team has the same dude, and sometimes.. i inherit the aggro of my teammate, my teammate can set off my abilities if he is close to me, and sometimes i will randomly run off in the direction of a right even if i dont tell him to... any ideas why this is happening? |
| 05:07.02 | HeyRevolver | of a fight* |
| 05:08.57 | Kueken | sounds strange |
| 05:09.09 | HeyRevolver | yeah it is |
| 05:09.37 | HeyRevolver | its like the game gets confused as to who is controlling what unit |
| 06:47.59 | HeyRevolver | is there a way to set it so i have to have vision of the spot i want to set my rally point to? |
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| 07:19.07 | Bounty | Anyone want to play the new Photon Discs mode before i go to bed? :) |
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| 07:20.58 | Bounty | Currydevil |
| 07:21.23 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 07:21.33 | Bounty | come play a round on the new game mode real fast before i go to bed |
| 07:21.36 | Bounty | pweeease |
| 07:21.43 | JademusSreg | Sorrry. |
| 07:21.45 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 07:21.49 | Bounty | :( |
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| 07:40.13 | HeyRevolver | is there a way to set a distance limit on barracks rally point? |
| 07:40.31 | HeyRevolver | or make it so i cant set a rally point in an undiscovered/non visible area? |
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| 11:11.07 | Repo` | Updated wiki entry: Galaxy / Triggers / Types / Unitgroup - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/triggers/types/unitgroup/ |
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| 11:15.30 | Eimtr | can any1 tell me, I am playing on lowered terrain and I have to click above for a unit to move, as if selection plane is above, how can I lower it so I actually click on the ground to move not air? |
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| 11:20.38 | Repo` | Updated wiki entry: Galaxy / Triggers / Types / Unitgroup - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/triggers/types/unitgroup/ |
| 11:28.05 | Eimtr | so how can i fix my selection's cursors where i click to move is high in the air? I am playing on lowered terrain |
| 11:37.55 | Eimtr | So on lower terrain below the normal level, your target ground pointer to Move is above you, how to lower it as well so I click the ground to move not the air? |
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| 13:22.58 | A1win | how do I enable custom units to show up in scoreboard build order? |
| 13:24.24 | A1win | also, is there any way to manually alter the "resources" score value that shows up on scoreboard? |
| 13:24.33 | A1win | my resources are trigger controlled so it's always 0 on scoreboard |
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| 13:30.49 | Mexa | http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/t334g/wtf_thanks_ea/ |
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| 13:39.58 | Eimtr | any1 can answer selection issue? |
| 13:41.55 | Ahli | Eimtr, map -> options -> base height? maybe? |
| 13:42.34 | Ahli | 8 is default |
| 13:45.29 | A1win | oww my custom units have Score Result set as Build Order but they aren't showing up there :< |
| 13:45.37 | A1win | only the standard ones that I've modified do |
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| 14:26.25 | Lajla | A1win, Kueken is a liar and I have done what he coudl not. |
| 14:26.43 | A1win | ? :x |
| 14:27.15 | Lajla | A1win, he told me that it wasn't possible to remove the ugly corners on cliffs that weren't meant for space tilesets if you used them in space tilesets around deadspace |
| 14:27.18 | Lajla | but I showed him |
| 14:27.30 | A1win | ok o: |
| 14:29.26 | Lajla | holy shit |
| 14:29.37 | Lajla | you can even change the colour of the FoW in the editor |
| 14:29.48 | Dustin | Well ya :P |
| 14:31.21 | Lajla | Dustin, why didn't you tell me? |
| 14:31.51 | Dustin | You never asked me |
| 14:33.32 | Lajla | Dustin, yeah, like that'll fly in court if you sell me a monitor with a time bomb in it |
| 14:33.35 | Ahli | aiwin, your map ;D page 1 in "all" |
| 14:33.38 | Lajla | 'You never asked me if there was a time bomb in it' |
| 14:36.11 | Ashaned | ahh |
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| 15:49.08 | A1win | wonder what's causing the drop issue |
| 15:49.33 | A1win | if it's pathfinding, why is it only happening for some people who (claim to) have a good machine |
| 15:57.39 | Dustin | I wanna play it |
| 16:00.21 | Ashaned | ahhhhhhh |
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| 16:25.05 | ckSynergy | Anyone know off the top of their head how to limit the number of units a building can train? I know ive see it somewhere but I cant remember |
| 16:25.30 | ckSynergy | Example: A building can only train 15 marines at a time, then it caps out until the limit is raised or some marines are killed |
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| 16:26.49 | Kueken | ckSynergy: with the marines being linked to the building? |
| 16:27.32 | Kueken | if you want something like 15 marines per barracks, you can easily do this by using a requirement |
| 16:28.12 | Kueken | however, then it would be also possible for 1 barracks to build 30 marines, if a 2nd barracks exists. |
| 16:28.46 | Kueken | if thats good enough for you, a requirement would be the way to go |
| 16:28.59 | Kueken | otherwise you might need a more complex workaround |
| 16:30.38 | ckSynergy | hmmm, ok, one second |
| 16:31.27 | ckSynergy | requirements are player specific correct? |
| 16:31.44 | ckSynergy | meaning if I have a barracks and the enemy has a barracks, then the limit is still 15 per, right? |
| 16:32.00 | ckSynergy | (sounds like a stupid question, but you never know) |
| 16:32.16 | Ashaned | guys its wing wednesday at hooters! |
| 16:32.39 | Dustin | Dude |
| 16:32.41 | Dustin | Lets go |
| 16:32.45 | Dustin | im hungry as fuck |
| 16:46.57 | Kueken | ckSynergy: yes |
| 16:47.11 | Kueken | you can set them up to be player-specific |
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| 16:48.18 | ckSynergy | thanks for the info |
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| 17:05.05 | Bounty | Hay Guyz |
| 17:13.25 | Mexa | evenin' |
| 17:14.29 | Bounty | How is Photon Discs doing on EU Mexa? its starting to die on US |
| 17:16.37 | Mexa | sec |
| 17:17.03 | Bounty | I also need to send the latest version over to Xara, EU still doesnt have lifetime stat tracking or the new map/mode |
| 17:20.03 | Mexa | page 5, 75hours |
| 17:20.15 | Bounty | nice, thats better than how its doing on US lol |
| 17:20.30 | Bounty | Apparently my leveling system backfired |
| 17:20.39 | Mexa | It's in reality better than that, since the popularity list is cluttered with clones. |
| 17:20.40 | Bounty | People hit max, and thats it |
| 17:21.02 | Bounty | Apparently thats all ppl on US care about |
| 17:21.14 | Bounty | Ah well i hope u guys enjoy the new update |
| 17:21.28 | Bounty | Lifetime Stat Tracking and King of the Grid mode |
| 17:21.46 | Bounty | You get to ride carriers |
| 17:21.48 | Bounty | :) |
| 17:22.09 | Mexa | I wouldn't know :> I might play it gain some time. |
| 17:22.20 | Mexa | I seem to only open sc2 by request nowadys |
| 17:22.22 | Bounty | i would atleast try the new mode |
| 17:22.27 | Bounty | it has the most unique layout |
| 17:22.43 | Bounty | + launch pads |
| 17:22.43 | Mexa | I'd try it out, don't get me wrong |
| 17:22.57 | Mexa | But then I'd also try out a bunch of other maps. And I don't have that much time to do so:P |
| 17:24.19 | Mexa | ... I think the bacon smoke is one by now. |
| 17:24.25 | Mexa | closes the windows. |
| 17:24.30 | Mexa | *done |
| 17:24.39 | Bounty | lol wtf |
| 17:24.44 | Mexa | *gone |
| 17:24.56 | Mexa | Well, I had a small accident:P |
| 17:25.45 | Mexa | I fried up two packets of bacon, and when I was pouring off the remains from the pan, the tap water wasn't hot enough |
| 17:26.01 | Mexa | "Psssssscchhhscchhhhssssh" |
| 17:26.06 | Mexa | :> |
| 17:26.07 | Bounty | lol |
| 17:29.24 | Dustin | hi |
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| 17:39.02 | Bounty | pew pew |
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| 18:03.03 | Mexa | http://kotaku.com/5906997/you-just-woke-up-the-snorlax-in-my-pants-and-other-super-effective-pokemon-pickup-lines |
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| 19:06.16 | Kendojen | hi |
| 19:07.59 | Kendojen | I'd like to create a system.. whereby units are 'always' moving forward? |
| 19:08.17 | Kendojen | Then each unit has two abilities for turning there facing 'left, and 'right' |
| 19:08.26 | Kendojen | And two more abilities for 'increasing' and 'decreasing' there speed. |
| 19:10.20 | Kendojen | Anyone? |
| 19:11.34 | Kendojen | Periodically set point to unit facing offset by x |
| 19:11.43 | Kendojen | Make unit face point (when using turning) |
| 19:11.56 | Kendojen | Use behaviours to adjust unit speed / velocity? |
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| 19:16.08 | Kueken | you can try that |
| 19:16.24 | Kueken | you could also issue orders periodically, or try force effects |
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| 19:24.50 | Dustin | force effects are shit |
| 19:25.06 | Kendojen | Yeah, I initially tried with force effects. |
| 19:25.09 | Kendojen | Didn't work nicely. |
| 19:25.27 | Dustin | What i suggest |
| 19:25.44 | Kendojen | So, if I periodically issue a move order to a unit... Can the player still give it transient commands? Or even targetted commands? |
| 19:25.54 | Dustin | Is making a unit and jsut adjusting his movespeed based on dummy abilitys |
| 19:26.04 | Dustin | And then turning it with dummy abilities |
| 19:26.18 | Dustin | Well |
| 19:26.24 | Kendojen | But how to make it move forward, constantly? |
| 19:26.28 | Dustin | you can disable commandle |
| 19:26.32 | Dustin | commandable |
| 19:26.40 | Kendojen | Then use a dummy unit? |
| 19:26.43 | Dustin | Order it to move at a polar offset |
| 19:26.57 | Dustin | Of it's facing + 1 or 2 |
| 19:27.14 | Dustin | And issue that order every half second or so |
| 19:27.26 | Dustin | You can play with the numbers |
| 19:27.31 | Dustin | make it look better |
| 19:27.35 | Dustin | but that should work |
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| 19:28.03 | Kendojen | And how about issuing orders to the unit that is recieving a move order every 0.5s? |
| 19:28.27 | Kendojen | Does the move order given by triggers override say... clicking 'Blink' and while the cursor waits for target? |
| 19:29.47 | Dustin | Make the blink ability transient |
| 19:29.51 | Dustin | Then it wont matter |
| 19:30.12 | Dustin | Let me whip up a quick demonstration map |
| 19:31.31 | Kendojen | No need |
| 19:31.33 | Kendojen | I'm doing the same |
| 19:31.41 | Kendojen | Just like to test this concept fully before I explore further |
| 19:34.08 | Zandose | Hey, what can I use instead of arrays if I need 2560x2560 indexes for a real-number |
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| 19:42.11 | Kendojen | A double array? |
| 19:42.17 | Kendojen | 256x256x10? |
| 19:43.03 | Ahli | why do u need that many? |
| 19:48.02 | Kueken | 2560x2560 would break the limit |
| 19:48.33 | Kueken | it was somewhere around 500k, you would be at 5 million + |
| 19:48.50 | Kueken | I suggest you find another way xD |
| 19:50.34 | Zandose | hmm |
| 19:58.54 | ckSynergy | Theoretical question. If I have a Pick each player, and in that a switch depending on player, and cases for players 1-3, and if player 1 has a wait timer of 45s, player 2 has a wait time of 3s and player 3 has a wait time of 12s, as it loops through are the waits going to be in parallel (i.e. @45s,3s and 12s) or in sequence (i.e. player 1 then executes a command at 45s, player 2 @ 47s and |
| 19:58.54 | ckSynergy | player 3 at 1minute) |
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| 20:11.44 | ckSynergy | nevermind |
| 20:18.13 | JademusSreg | Pew pew |
| 20:18.35 | Kendojen | Dustin - I'm having issues making it look 'tidy' |
| 20:19.15 | Ashamed | new ivy bridge out |
| 20:19.22 | Ashamed | and peeps are over clocking themt oo much |
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| 21:28.51 | Ashamed | THE POP SAYZ NOPE |
| 21:31.25 | Mexa | http://kotaku.com/5907108/the-spectacular-live-debut-of-nvidias-999-dual+gpu-video-card |
| 21:33.31 | Ashamed | pfff i got it |
| 21:36.35 | Ashamed | no i have 2 490 classifieds |
| 21:36.38 | Ashamed | but they are good enough MEXA |
| 21:37.01 | Mexa | I wouldn't know anyway:P |
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| 21:42.47 | Ashamed | i dont even need a gpu my processor does it |
| 21:54.09 | A1win | I'm failing to read values from a bank that I haven't yet saved during the game |
| 21:54.46 | A1win | do I need something else than opening the bank for the player before reading from it? |
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| 22:17.55 | Bounty | New Photon Discs video showing the final FFA mode :) |
| 22:17.57 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNWs0Go8SUY |
| 22:18.15 | Bounty | Watch it JademusSreg, sicne ur always to busy to come play |
| 22:18.30 | A1win | why is my bank not working ;[ |
| 22:20.17 | A1win | something stupid I guess, works fine in someone else's test map and I thought I made it like that but I guess not |
| 22:25.47 | A1win | err... looks like it's reading integers right but not strings O_o |
| 22:27.46 | A1win | or not... |
| 22:31.34 | A1win | oh |
| 22:31.48 | A1win | can't open them in a loop using variables |
| 22:32.18 | Bounty | word |
| 22:35.05 | A1win | is the bank signature system good enough for preventing people from editing the banks without much effort? |
| 22:41.01 | A1win | oh well I'll use that as an addition |
| 22:41.30 | Mexa | https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ySF_wYK-nD4/T6FpC0IpBHI/AAAAAAABXZk/RSGldzXQ9bI/s447/ieclose.jpg |
| 23:06.24 | Bounty | Mexa |
| 23:06.27 | Bounty | Check it out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNWs0Go8SUY :) |
| 23:07.15 | Cheekything | that is rather epic |
| 23:07.42 | Bounty | FFA needed its own cool mode |
| 23:07.46 | Bounty | Teams have Photon Ball |
| 23:07.50 | Bounty | FFA has King of the Grid :) |
| 23:09.11 | Bounty | 2:28 is my favorite part |
| 23:09.13 | Bounty | Cut his ride early |
| 23:09.15 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:10.23 | Mexa | Interesting, although I would say the "vehicles" move abit too silly now. |
| 23:10.32 | Bounty | ? |
| 23:10.35 | Bounty | they move straight across |
| 23:10.39 | Bounty | its just a launch pad |
| 23:10.42 | Mexa | Like one being able to rotate it and yourself when moving straight across |
| 23:10.47 | Bounty | yeah |
| 23:10.50 | Bounty | ill fix that eventually |
| 23:10.54 | Bounty | i just released this last night |
| 23:11.13 | Bounty | Its alot of fun, especially with melee |
| 23:11.16 | Mexa | That doesn't mean you could spend some more time on polishing it up before releasing it in a hurry:P |
| 23:11.17 | Bounty | People have jousts |
| 23:11.18 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:11.35 | Bounty | thats the only issue with it? |
| 23:11.42 | Bounty | we did plenty of testing before it went live |
| 23:12.03 | Bounty | Give me some damn credit Mexa lol |
| 23:12.09 | Bounty | Look at how much support i've done for this map :) |
| 23:12.13 | Bounty | You cannot deny it |
| 23:12.16 | Mexa | I'm not saying the mechanism does work Bounty |
| 23:12.42 | Mexa | I'm saying hat focusing on the visual aspect should be a priority for polishing as well. |
| 23:12.53 | Bounty | yeah but im saying |
| 23:12.56 | Bounty | thats the only thing i didnt do |
| 23:13.10 | Bounty | honestly it slipped my mind |
| 23:13.10 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:13.14 | Mexa | It's nice other than that:P |
| 23:13.28 | Bounty | Yeah its everyones new favorite mode for FFA |
| 23:13.39 | Bounty | not much competition, the other FFA modes are DM and Juggernaut |
| 23:13.41 | Mexa | And yeah, I don't deny you've done great support for the map so far, already. |
| 23:14.09 | Bounty | Its pretty much nearly out of beta |
| 23:14.17 | Bounty | all i have left to do is character editor and Prestige Badges |
| 23:14.24 | Mexa | What, it's still called a beta? |
| 23:14.35 | Bounty | yeah |
| 23:14.43 | Bounty | I mean i guess i could take it out of beta? |
| 23:14.47 | Bounty | Its pretty much done |
| 23:14.54 | Bounty | with the exception of the features i listed |
| 23:15.08 | Mexa | Do the things you are planning to do before the beta ends, instead |
| 23:15.17 | Bounty | That was the plan :) |
| 23:15.22 | Mexa | Though normally, does betas include adding features;)? |
| 23:15.23 | Bounty | i just need to figure out how to display your badge |
| 23:15.25 | Bounty | on ur name |
| 23:15.30 | Bounty | without affecting ur view |
| 23:15.47 | Bounty | not sure Mexa, i just figured beta was done before you are done with the game |
| 23:15.49 | Bounty | which i am not |
| 23:16.07 | Bounty | Like, after release you just do bug fixes and expansions if you desire |
| 23:16.18 | JademusSreg | Kapew |
| 23:16.31 | Mexa | I don't know the exact definitions of a beta, so never mind. |
| 23:17.01 | Bounty | JademusSreg |
| 23:17.13 | Bounty | watch this video since you never play :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNWs0Go8SUY |
| 23:17.49 | Mexa | Bounty, you could reference an image in your text |
| 23:17.57 | Bounty | doesnt work |
| 23:17.58 | Mexa | All you need it the code, and a proper size of the image |
| 23:18.01 | Bounty | It moves all the text |
| 23:18.08 | Bounty | and the size i would need for it to look right |
| 23:18.12 | Mexa | It will move the text a bot. |
| 23:18.12 | Bounty | is so small its useless |
| 23:18.14 | Mexa | *bit |
| 23:18.19 | Bounty | yeah and it looks silly |
| 23:18.22 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:18.31 | Mexa | Well, I thought that was the point, to have it near your name? |
| 23:18.36 | Bounty | yeah |
| 23:18.40 | Bounty | i MIGHT do it above ur name? |
| 23:18.44 | Bounty | i think that might work |
| 23:18.47 | Mexa | Hm |
| 23:18.56 | Mexa | It will waste lots of space. |
| 23:19.28 | JademusSreg | Cute. |
| 23:19.29 | Mexa | Or rather, will it only show your rank icon, or everyone's? |
| 23:19.44 | Bounty | everyones |
| 23:19.52 | Bounty | not sure how im gonna do it |
| 23:19.54 | Bounty | thats the only issue atm |
| 23:20.38 | JademusSreg | Show it to the left of the name. |
| 23:22.06 | Bounty | that looks silly though |
| 23:22.14 | Bounty | its either to small or to big |
| 23:22.40 | Mexa | There's been games that it doesn't look all too silly. |
| 23:22.45 | JademusSreg | And the dark carrier attached to the unit while it is being shuttled looks silly. I'd advise using a glowy disc. |
| 23:22.48 | Mexa | For instance, in Battlefield 2 |
| 23:23.06 | Mexa | There's small rank icons next to all the players, in their stats view when you're online on a server. |
| 23:23.13 | Bounty | I guess that would make sense Jade |
| 23:23.15 | Bounty | lol |
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