| 00:01.05 | egod | how to put this image in the forum with wiki creole? |
| 00:07.01 | egod | ok i figured out |
| 00:07.17 | egod | you guys are to slow, i found everything by myself |
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| 00:18.00 | egod | check ahli http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/images/40/641/Screenshot2012-04-26_19_51_33.jpg |
| 00:18.58 | egod | people can save skill right with F1-F2-F3 memory like d2 |
| 00:24.41 | Ahli | I'm using QWERT for that |
| 00:25.07 | Ahli | also, that's nothing new from you... you had that more than a year ago I think ^^ |
| 00:26.38 | egod | nothing worked a year ago, now everything work :D |
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| 00:33.11 | xFtZ | Anyone here happen to know the default camera distance? |
| 00:36.17 | Vailreth | oh yay a new god of war |
| 00:43.27 | egod | 15 MAY, DONT TELL MY BOSS WHY WILL CALL SICK |
| 00:51.37 | Kueken | xFtZ: do you need to reset it at some point? |
| 00:51.55 | Kueken | because then you can use SaveCamera and RestoreCamera |
| 00:52.13 | Ahli | xFtZ, have a look in data editor and then camera and then default |
| 01:13.43 | Ahli | http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/StateOfTheGame |
| 01:13.54 | Ahli | will talk about: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/5202424/Talking_Balance_with_David_Kim-4_26_2012#blog |
| 01:16.42 | egod | nerds amg |
| 01:17.57 | egod | omg the little kids is sooo virgin |
| 01:18.06 | egod | they all look virgins |
| 01:18.16 | Otixa | Someone say virgins? :O |
| 01:20.50 | Ahli | I don't want to see a pic of egod :o |
| 01:22.23 | egod | im jesus men |
| 01:38.46 | Repo | Updated wiki entry: galaxy / triggers / position-of-substring - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/triggers/position-of-substring/ |
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| 02:29.34 | xFtZ | Thank you Ahli btw :D |
| 02:30.27 | Ahli | np |
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| 03:18.19 | Dustin | hi |
| 03:23.43 | egod | HI |
| 03:35.55 | Dustin | whats up |
| 04:22.37 | Repo | New map: Castle Wars - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/castle-wars/ |
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| 05:27.08 | Currydevil | Heh, I guess Bounty didn't want to test it afterall =O |
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| 05:35.21 | Taintedwisp | Hey guys,is there any Battle anyone here would like to see Enacted in Map form?, The current Ideas are the first crusade, the battle of Thermopylae, Troy, and Gettysberg. |
| 05:52.14 | Dustin | Just completed the first victory on my map |
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| 06:10.59 | Dustin | Ugh why doesnt the empty face field work on inventories |
| 06:20.32 | Kenoli | Because the inventory system is crap |
| 06:31.46 | Dustin | Touche |
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| 07:21.28 | Lajjla | Anyone here thinks this could work: http://imgur.com/a/s2RXB? |
| 07:21.43 | Lajjla | It's kind of experimental with the many pathways and lots of 6m1g nodes |
| 07:52.43 | Kenoli | Seems claustrophobic |
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| 08:01.14 | Lajjla | Kenoli, yeah, I'm kind of afraid of that myself. |
| 08:02.07 | Lajjla | the chokes are about the with of the passages of Cloud Kingdom though because it's a 180x160 map, but still. =/ |
| 08:18.02 | Mexa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zJm52R9OPY zerg rush on google <3 |
| 08:28.24 | Kenoli | That's amazing |
| 08:29.08 | Lajjla | Yeah, saw it today on reddoit |
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| 12:02.44 | Ahli | go, google "zerg rush" |
| 12:03.23 | Mexa | knows already. |
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| 13:46.27 | A1win | lulz, 23 rating in up & coming |
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| 14:04.37 | Kueken | Moarning |
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| 14:06.49 | Ashamed | -.- tera tomorrow |
| 14:10.24 | Mexa | terawhat? |
| 14:14.26 | Ashamed | teh mmo |
| 14:14.34 | Ashamed | that seems actually kinda fun |
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| 14:41.12 | Mexa | Die you standard deviations! |
| 14:47.05 | A1win | yay people are playing my map o: |
| 14:49.02 | A1win | most of them are probably playing it wrong but at least they're playing |
| 14:54.38 | Ashamed | a1win what is it? |
| 14:54.47 | A1win | CraftCraft, only on EU atm |
| 14:54.55 | Ashamed | you are a craftcraft |
| 14:54.59 | A1win | ;[ |
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| 15:19.31 | Helral | anyone know who at sc2mapster has the best knowledge about observers and giving observers their own information displaying dialogs? |
| 15:19.57 | Helral | someone poked me with a question about that, so I want to redirect him to someone who has the needed knowledge ;p |
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| 15:36.38 | Bounty | Hay Guyz |
| 15:37.19 | Helral | hey Bounty |
| 15:37.58 | Bounty | Howdy Helral |
| 15:43.34 | JademusSreg | Pew pew |
| 15:46.05 | Helral | whacks JademusSreg with a fish skeleton. |
| 15:46.12 | Helral | just had my dinner ;p |
| 15:47.17 | JademusSreg | collapses like DryBones, then reassembles. |
| 15:51.42 | Helral | whacks JademusSreg with a fish skeleton. |
| 15:51.46 | JademusSreg | collapses like DryBones, then reassembles. |
| 15:51.54 | Helral | meows |
| 15:52.02 | Helral | whacks JademusSreg with his paw |
| 15:52.05 | JademusSreg | collapses like DryBones, then reassembles. |
| 15:52.50 | RipperRoo | STOP IT |
| 15:52.53 | Helral | whacks JademusSreg with his paw and steals a legbone |
| 15:52.54 | RipperRoo | silly kids :/ |
| 15:52.56 | JademusSreg | Funny how no one is concerned that Bowser is meddling with dark magics. |
| 15:53.00 | Helral | meows |
| 15:53.00 | JademusSreg | collapses like DryBones, then reassembles. |
| 15:53.11 | Helral | JademusSreg missing a legbone? ;p |
| 15:53.20 | JademusSreg | Maaaaybe. |
| 15:53.28 | Helral | hides the legbone |
| 15:55.13 | RipperRoo | grabs helran by his neck and lifts him up in the air |
| 15:55.17 | RipperRoo | bad kitty! |
| 15:55.24 | Helral | meows innocently |
| 15:55.36 | Helral | looks with his cute innocent kitten eyes at RipperRoo |
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| 15:58.01 | RipperRoo | xD |
| 15:58.03 | RipperRoo | awww |
| 15:58.16 | RipperRoo | ok u may pass *puts helral downĂ |
| 15:59.06 | Ashamed | anyone else get tera? |
| 16:09.43 | Ashamed | n00bz |
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| 16:29.09 | Vailreth | sor |
| 16:36.19 | Vailreth | any movie where the hero throws a bear into space is.... |
| 16:37.37 | Mexa | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2757798/colorsim_2.png it's taking shape! |
| 16:40.39 | Ashamed | mexa wtf is that? |
| 16:40.52 | Mexa | Some ColorSimulatorThingy |
| 16:42.12 | Mexa | Ashamed, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2757798/ColorSim.zip in case you want to play around, lol |
| 16:42.45 | Mexa | Needs .net and xna framework 4.0 redists. |
| 16:43.28 | Mexa | Not done yet though:P |
| 16:52.17 | Mexa | Ashamed, never really replied on your qustion. It's a color simulator which simulates movement/cloning of colors using a simple rock/paper/scissors algorithm. |
| 16:52.24 | Mexa | *question |
| 16:52.34 | Mexa | It's a lab assignment for class. |
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| 17:00.50 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/cc/Screenshot2012-04-27%2019_57_09.jpg how's that difficulty text at lower left? |
| 17:01.18 | A1win | I mean is that good place for it |
| 17:02.37 | Currydevil | Looks ... insane |
| 17:02.42 | Mexa | Doesn't that clash with error text? |
| 17:02.46 | Currydevil | or just fine to me. |
| 17:02.55 | Currydevil | no, debug/error is higher up |
| 17:02.57 | A1win | error text is much higher than that |
| 17:03.06 | A1win | it'd clash with idle workers button but don't have it |
| 17:03.11 | Mexa | Oh okay. |
| 17:04.33 | Mexa | Hey, what's the extra frame at the bottom right, A1win?` |
| 17:04.51 | A1win | the hero icon? |
| 17:05.28 | A1win | the black boxes are battlenet buttons |
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| 17:09.12 | Mexa | Nah |
| 17:09.32 | Mexa | Next to the player icon. |
| 17:09.42 | Mexa | Whatever it's called. |
| 17:09.58 | Mexa | User/player/profile button. |
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| 17:29.51 | A1win | hmm? |
| 17:30.07 | A1win | what player icon o: |
| 17:31.16 | A1win | I don't see any extra frames |
| 17:31.39 | A1win | if you mean the small black box next to the wider black box, they are the friends button and the microphone button backgrounds |
| 17:31.58 | A1win | which aren't showing because I'm not online |
| 17:32.37 | A1win | how to phrase this better? "Everyone is dead and there are no Command Centers to resurrect at." |
| 17:33.24 | Mexa | Ah, I didn't know that microphone button |
| 17:33.48 | Mexa | Never occurred to me to turn it on while testing. Good thinking. |
| 17:33.49 | Ahli | someone is using the microphone in sc2? :o |
| 17:34.16 | A1win | oh, I'm not using it either, just have had it showing up always D: |
| 17:34.23 | Mexa | Ahli, better to think of it, than not thinking of it at all. |
| 17:34.52 | Ahli | ^^ |
| 17:35.04 | ducky | A1win, come back to mapnight >:D |
| 17:35.12 | Mexa | Mapnight? |
| 17:35.31 | Mexa | Boooh, I'm doing my lab assignment :| |
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| 17:57.57 | A1win | page 5 in less than a day :o |
| 17:58.58 | ckSynergy | I have "entire map" set to a region, "Non-Playable Map Area". I then add the following code. Region - Add a Negative rectangle ((X of (Bottom-left of MapData.Map[MapData.Selected].Region bounds)), (Y of (Bottom-left of MapData.Map[MapData.Selected].Region bounds)), (X of (Top-right of MapData.Map[MapData.Selected].Region bounds)), (Y of (Top-right of MapData.Map[MapData.Selected].Region |
| 17:58.58 | ckSynergy | bounds))) to Non-Playable Map Area |
| 17:58.58 | ckSynergy | can someone tell me if theres something wrong with that? I know my selection region is correct, but the "non-playable" is not. ideas? |
| 18:06.12 | Kueken | wait |
| 18:06.21 | Kueken | what exactly do you want to do? |
| 18:06.49 | ckSynergy | create a "non-playable map area" thats the inverse of "playable map area" |
| 18:07.34 | Kueken | why not create a new region containing entire map, then use RegionAddRegion and add playable map area as negative? |
| 18:08.39 | ckSynergy | and how exactly do you add the region as a negative hmm? |
| 18:09.38 | Kueken | hm |
| 18:09.43 | Kueken | thought it would be possible |
| 18:09.48 | ckSynergy | yea, lol |
| 18:09.59 | ckSynergy | the function about is the only way I found to add a "negative" region |
| 18:10.04 | ckSynergy | though even that doesnt seem to work |
| 18:12.25 | Kueken | hm |
| 18:12.40 | ckSynergy | yea |
| 18:12.54 | Kueken | check the coordinates, test if the negative rect works as expected |
| 18:13.04 | Kueken | thats what I would do |
| 18:14.19 | ckSynergy | yea, trying to think of a function I could use to test |
| 18:15.24 | Kueken | entire map -> cut off 99% of it -> spawn units at random point in area ;) |
| 18:16.00 | Kueken | something like that |
| 18:16.03 | ckSynergy | I'll figure out a function :) Right now cant spawn units on it (dont ask) |
| 18:16.10 | Kueken | o_0 |
| 18:16.21 | Kueken | you would do that in a testmap, of course |
| 18:16.39 | Kueken | I wouldn't mess up my project with this kind of tests |
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| 18:17.43 | ckSynergy | Its not in a mod file right now. Tried to convert it briefly and things went screwball with the "testmap" function |
| 18:17.45 | ckSynergy | anyway |
| 18:18.05 | ckSynergy | Just ran the function globally. Removing doodads from the non-negative region... and no go |
| 18:18.15 | ckSynergy | its basically showing me the region "doesnt exist" |
| 18:21.43 | ckSynergy | lets see |
| 18:25.52 | Kueken | so |
| 18:25.57 | Kueken | according to my tests |
| 18:26.07 | Kueken | nothing gets subtracted |
| 18:26.14 | ckSynergy | yea thats what Im seeing |
| 18:26.56 | ckSynergy | lets see if changing the x values to negative do anything |
| 18:27.18 | Mexa | Keep in mind that when working with negative regions, spawning random units inside it may fail, and spawn them at Point(0, 0) |
| 18:27.35 | Mexa | And since Point(0, 0) is not a valid point to spawn units on, nothing will happend. |
| 18:27.48 | Kueken | tried negative, also tried swapped coordinates for min and max |
| 18:27.51 | ckSynergy | spawning units in "playable map area" |
| 18:27.59 | Kueken | and Mexa, I use visibility revealers now |
| 18:28.03 | ckSynergy | the negative is for some other functions |
| 18:28.14 | ckSynergy | basically, trying to reduce lag, removing doodads in non-playable area |
| 18:28.19 | Kueken | seems to be the more accurate choice |
| 18:28.21 | Mexa | Alright, I thought it was for unit spawning. |
| 18:28.28 | Kueken | just testing here |
| 18:28.50 | Mexa | rightright |
| 18:28.59 | Kueken | my result would be, that adding a negative rect has no effect whatsoever |
| 18:29.01 | ckSynergy | ok using negatives work |
| 18:29.06 | ckSynergy | it does |
| 18:29.08 | Kueken | anyone used them with success already? |
| 18:29.11 | ckSynergy | you have to use negative values |
| 18:29.14 | Kueken | o_0 |
| 18:29.16 | ckSynergy | Just got it working |
| 18:29.23 | Kueken | doesnt change anything for me |
| 18:29.31 | ckSynergy | well, working as in the function working, not working for my specific needs lol |
| 18:29.37 | ckSynergy | use negative x and y values |
| 18:29.39 | Kueken | maybe it doesnt work with visibility reveales? |
| 18:29.53 | ckSynergy | wait |
| 18:29.54 | ckSynergy | hold on |
| 18:31.09 | ckSynergy | may be mistaken |
| 18:32.52 | ckSynergy | ok, im mistaken. negative is just broken |
| 18:32.53 | Kueken | if it doesn't work, you can still construct a region from 4 rects on the edges |
| 18:33.07 | ckSynergy | true, its just painful |
| 18:33.18 | Kueken | :) |
| 18:33.33 | ckSynergy | so negative is broken, and away I go to basically do what you said |
| 18:33.39 | ckSynergy | before I go though |
| 18:33.59 | ckSynergy | do you think it matters if there are doodads or not in the non-playable map area? |
| 18:34.21 | ckSynergy | i.e. if you have a huge map with 8 smaller maps, and players can only see/move in 1 of them |
| 18:34.32 | ckSynergy | do the doodads in the non-visible area even have an effect? |
| 18:34.37 | Kueken | try it |
| 18:34.52 | Kueken | place a crapton of doodads in an area |
| 18:34.59 | Kueken | and look at another area |
| 18:35.21 | ckSynergy | I suppose thats one way lol |
| 18:35.24 | ckSynergy | alright well thanks for the help |
| 18:35.25 | Kueken | pretty sure it will have some effect |
| 18:35.38 | Kueken | you would need to investigate, how big it is |
| 18:35.47 | ckSynergy | Biggest it can be |
| 18:35.53 | ckSynergy | anyway, gonna work on it and do some tests |
| 18:35.56 | ckSynergy | thanks for the help |
| 18:36.17 | Kueken | heh, didn't help much, it seems ;) |
| 18:41.38 | A1win | is the popularity time counted per player or per game? |
| 18:42.05 | Kueken | pretty sure its per player |
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| 18:42.36 | Taintedwisp | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:42.50 | Taintedwisp | Its an evolves type map |
| 18:47.04 | Taintedwisp | Hm say I attached an actor to an actor, How would I attach another actor to the top of that actor? |
| 18:48.34 | Kueken | set the Host: Subject to the other actor |
| 18:51.14 | Taintedwisp | So set the host: Subject to the attached actor? |
| 18:51.26 | Taintedwisp | So I still so the Host site operation? |
| 18:52.23 | Kueken | ? |
| 18:52.34 | Ahli | damned, I lost a 3v4 team deathmatch in photon discs :S |
| 18:52.45 | Kueken | the site operation can be used to attach the actor to a specific attachment point |
| 18:52.58 | Kueken | it is not needed to attach an actor per se |
| 18:53.34 | Kueken | it would most likely make sense, of course ;) |
| 18:53.58 | Taintedwisp | :D |
| 18:54.43 | Taintedwisp | Heres the plan, A player buys an upgrade it adds another layer to the bunker. add 1 Ghost to bunker, and increases the bunkers health by 500 |
| 18:54.45 | Taintedwisp | :D |
| 18:54.58 | Taintedwisp | I want to do this for atleast 10 upgrasdes |
| 18:59.25 | Kueken | well, then do so :) |
| 18:59.56 | Taintedwisp | :D just sounds like something that would be kinda cool to do |
| 18:59.58 | Kueken | I doubt, it will be possible without creating a new actor specific to each layer |
| 19:00.14 | Taintedwisp | Thats fine |
| 19:00.17 | Kueken | but you probably planned that |
| 19:00.39 | Taintedwisp | this is a learning project. But I can already see how it could be better then Squad td right now :D |
| 19:01.03 | Taintedwisp | and since I have the team to do it, and my mediocre knowledge its all good |
| 19:01.28 | Kueken | maybe you could even use aliases or scope references, so you don't have to create a new actor per layer... |
| 19:01.52 | Kueken | certainly possible via trigger |
| 19:01.59 | Taintedwisp | Hmm, well I hate plently of time to figure this out |
| 19:02.03 | Taintedwisp | Have* |
| 19:02.07 | Taintedwisp | not hate |
| 19:02.08 | Taintedwisp | ll |
| 19:02.34 | Kueken | :) |
| 19:02.37 | Kueken | Freudian slip |
| 19:02.45 | Taintedwisp | Im so used to hating lol |
| 19:02.51 | Taintedwisp | Im a hateful person, what can I say |
| 19:02.54 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 19:03.28 | Kueken | yep, figured that much :) |
| 19:04.24 | Taintedwisp | I dont think white people are Superior to black people... its just that i'm superior to both lawl |
| 19:04.42 | Taintedwisp | is that such crimE? |
| 19:05.16 | Kueken | so you're... green? |
| 19:05.23 | Taintedwisp | WHY is there always one damn fly in the house... and it cant help but fuck with me |
| 19:05.32 | Taintedwisp | no im maroon..... V |
| 19:05.34 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 19:05.42 | Kueken | yes, sounds like the superior human being |
| 19:05.45 | Kueken | owned by a fly |
| 19:05.49 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:06.07 | Taintedwisp | I let the little things bother me so the large things have no anger left. |
| 19:06.29 | Kueken | ...like a certain map editor :) |
| 19:07.14 | Taintedwisp | Honestly everyone should feel superior to everyone. If everyone thought that they were superior there wouldnt be any violence, as long as they follow one more thing... Dont fight with those lower then you :D |
| 19:07.20 | Taintedwisp | keeps me out of a lot of trouble |
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| 19:08.43 | Taintedwisp | WHoA I JUST THOUGHT OF THE ULTIMATE UNIT!!!! |
| 19:08.51 | Taintedwisp | A marine riding a baneling |
| 19:08.58 | Taintedwisp | imagine Stiming a baneling |
| 19:09.04 | Taintedwisp | Ultra kill |
| 19:10.45 | Taintedwisp | im superior and inferior to everyone, but equal to none |
| 19:10.45 | Taintedwisp | :D |
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| 19:24.10 | Vailreth | takes note Stim Banelings for custom campaign |
| 19:24.39 | Vailreth | or or Aoe Stim from new spell caster |
| 19:25.03 | Vailreth | yeah i could change my relentless swarm into that |
| 19:25.20 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:26.05 | Vailreth | right now it slows zerg unit movement but increases life regen and armor as well as attack power |
| 19:27.57 | Taintedwisp | Well the idea is to make the marines facing backwards and running on the banelings so its like circus performers. :D |
| 19:28.07 | Taintedwisp | and the banelings balled up |
| 19:28.42 | Vailreth | oooh i could do something like the Honorable Discharge Protocol form Red alert 3 and have all zerg units go baneling on death |
| 19:28.50 | Taintedwisp | Nice |
| 19:29.47 | Taintedwisp | Oh, that reminds me, blizzard better know one thing and one thing only.... if they remove banelings I quit |
| 19:29.48 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:30.05 | Taintedwisp | forever... until they are re inserted or until I quit careing |
| 19:30.32 | Vailreth | but then i have structural mistosis an ability for zerg to isntantly double their army size but at the cost of each unit only living thirty seconds after that |
| 19:31.35 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:32.04 | Taintedwisp | If your trying to make overpowerd races. just leave terran alone lawl |
| 19:32.21 | Vailreth | hah |
| 19:32.49 | Kueken | oh, you could give them a ranged unit available from the barracks for 50 minerals, which can use stimpacks |
| 19:32.53 | Taintedwisp | How to make Terran balanced?, remove concussive shot |
| 19:32.57 | Kueken | wouldnt that be imba |
| 19:33.04 | Taintedwisp | Charglots and zerglings will rape them |
| 19:33.38 | Taintedwisp | A unit that kills Stalkers and slows zealots.... |
| 19:33.41 | Taintedwisp | kills immortals |
| 19:33.42 | Vailreth | not sure what terrans will get |
| 19:33.58 | Taintedwisp | Why is a Teir 1.2 unit a gamewinner? |
| 19:34.14 | Kueken | they can construct the artifact from the last campaign mission :) |
| 19:34.21 | Kueken | energy nova every minute or so |
| 19:34.22 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:34.42 | Taintedwisp | Dear blizzard.... REMOVE THE MARAUDER |
| 19:35.04 | Taintedwisp | its too powerful... it counters all land units..... except colosus |
| 19:35.11 | Vailreth | id trade the rauder for shredder |
| 19:35.46 | Taintedwisp | Nothing is funnier then the warhound |
| 19:36.02 | Taintedwisp | A smaller thor with Land capabilities and Strong Anti Air |
| 19:36.08 | Taintedwisp | .... isnt that a goliath |
| 19:36.10 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:36.32 | Vailreth | reinventing the wheel it seems |
| 19:36.46 | Taintedwisp | in crappier form, it looked like a Stretched SCV model lol |
| 19:37.17 | Vailreth | its like the episode where the mythbusters made square wheels |
| 19:37.19 | Taintedwisp | Damn random capitalization... in know what to and what not to capitalize but when im typing it has become a habit |
| 19:46.33 | A1win | oops, accidentally hid refineries from minimap |
| 19:46.41 | A1win | I hope not too many players start a new game during this patch :P |
| 19:49.55 | A1win | *vespene geysers |
| 20:08.35 | Helral | 6d6a6r6k6 |
| 20:11.08 | Helral | roflol wrong window ;p |
| 20:14.49 | A1win | how long period of time does the popularity system count? |
| 20:15.21 | A1win | it's obviously not all time popularity because the first map on the list has lost some time during the day |
| 20:16.16 | Kueken | a couple of days afaik |
| 20:16.20 | Kueken | 3 or 4 or something |
| 20:16.28 | Kueken | if it didn't change |
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| 20:54.25 | Xapti | guild wars 2 digita edition "sold out" pretty funny |
| 20:57.04 | Vailreth | yeah.. |
| 20:57.37 | Xapti | peopel have told me it's not good |
| 20:57.44 | Xapti | but I haven't heard why |
| 20:58.12 | prencher | that means they're either judging it without playing it, or violating NDAs |
| 20:58.19 | prencher | since today is the first open beta |
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| 21:40.29 | Taintedwisp | You know its been 3 months since my dad died, and life still feels empty.... this sucks lol. im not depressed, its just everything feels kinda off. |
| 21:41.02 | Vailreth | sorry for your loss. |
| 21:41.26 | Taintedwisp | I thought he just sat around fixed cars occasionally and played on the computer, never realized how much that niggy did around here, Kept people away, Kept My step moms family from ruling over her life. Kept her kids in line |
| 21:41.40 | Taintedwisp | I mean im over that he died, im at peace with it... its just weird... |
| 21:41.41 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:41.49 | Vailreth | i see |
| 21:42.14 | Taintedwisp | Well, back to mappibng |
| 21:42.17 | Taintedwisp | mapping |
| 21:43.24 | Vailreth | i was trying to shorten flyingspatula into a shorter nickname... and got The Flatula and immediately sad No |
| 21:43.38 | Taintedwisp | lol flatula that sounds like a fart... |
| 21:43.46 | Taintedwisp | Flyspat |
| 21:43.48 | Vailreth | exactly |
| 21:43.53 | Taintedwisp | like sound slike flys shit |
| 21:44.20 | Vailreth | lyspa? |
| 21:44.39 | JademusSreg | So one needs to pre-purchase GW2 to access its beta, but how does one determine it is worth buying before playing it? This is problematic. |
| 21:44.56 | Taintedwisp | I saw some gameplay of it, it looks about WoW level |
| 21:45.01 | Taintedwisp | just go to youtube and look up gameplay |
| 21:45.03 | Taintedwisp | decide that way |
| 21:45.21 | equinox1911 | i saw a screenshot that they are out of digital coppies for gw2 earlier |
| 21:45.24 | Vailreth | that can really only relate Asthetics |
| 21:45.39 | Taintedwisp | yeah, but its better then nothing |
| 21:47.07 | Kueken | JademusSreg: Well, its a beta, it is not meant to give the player a taste of the game |
| 21:47.10 | equinox1911 | the point jade is making is that you only can test the product if you pay for it i think |
| 21:47.19 | Kueken | maybe there is a demo at some point |
| 21:47.35 | Kueken | but a beta is not a demo, it has a whole different purpose |
| 21:47.41 | Kueken | but i am sure you know that ;) |
| 21:48.01 | Taintedwisp | JADEMUS dont buy it!!!! |
| 21:48.08 | Taintedwisp | then you wont be around to help me |
| 21:48.09 | Taintedwisp | :D |
| 21:48.12 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 21:48.22 | Vailreth | i second not buying |
| 21:48.29 | Vailreth | but them i dont like mmos |
| 21:48.39 | Kueken | somehow I dont see jade being sucked into GW2 for prolonged periods of time ;) |
| 21:48.45 | Taintedwisp | i like mmos, but they get boreing fast |
| 21:49.11 | Vailreth | i have played GrandChase off and on for years |
| 21:49.43 | Vailreth | but thats about it |
| 21:50.00 | Taintedwisp | I liked wow... until the high level fag Role players ruined it |
| 21:50.10 | Taintedwisp | i dont want to see and orc and a gnome getting it on |
| 21:50.24 | Vailreth | hm |
| 21:51.08 | Vailreth | neither would i |
| 21:51.57 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:52.50 | Vailreth | i know what i need to do for my map but i do not see me doing it anytime soon |
| 21:53.40 | Taintedwisp | I know what I want to do, and how to do it.... but I dont feel like starting.... |
| 21:54.17 | Vailreth | exactly |
| 21:55.07 | Taintedwisp | I want to Re-make the battle for Troy... in a 7 v1 competitive map |
| 21:55.29 | Taintedwisp | with a choose the Trojan leader like phantom mode chooses |
| 21:56.13 | Vailreth | all i need to do is make a Load Out Dialog so players can choose which abilities they start each round with, and make some new abilities |
| 21:56.26 | Taintedwisp | you lost me at Load out |
| 21:56.28 | Taintedwisp | :D |
| 21:57.07 | Vailreth | basically the sets of six abilities players can assign to their left and right moust buttons |
| 21:57.43 | A1win | I have this system where a unit can exit a vehicle, it spawns the unit a bit out of the vehicle's center and the vehicle unit then pushes the unit away from inside it... but if the unit exists the vehicle when the vehicle is facing a wall, the unit often gets stuck between the wall and the vehicle... any ideas how to fix it (I don't want the unit to push the vehicle while)? |
| 21:58.15 | A1win | *exits |
| 21:58.29 | Taintedwisp | hey since I am re-making the trojan war, How do you think the public would like it if I made it a Space trojan war? Similar how Leonardo di crapio was in Romeo and juliet where its the same story but in the future |
| 21:58.32 | A1win | -while |
| 21:59.23 | Taintedwisp | Hey a1win, I saw a post relating to Arm magazines, this may be possible with that. |
| 21:59.37 | A1win | huh? |
| 21:59.50 | Vailreth | depends i think how you are creating the unit |
| 21:59.52 | Taintedwisp | i would be lying if I said i remember exacty what it said, I just remember an exit/ enter system for the tank |
| 22:00.00 | Taintedwisp | And it looked really nice |
| 22:00.07 | A1win | I'm asking for ideas how to make the unit not get stuck, the entering/exiting system is already working |
| 22:00.49 | Vailreth | what kind of enter exit are you using? |
| 22:01.18 | A1win | morphing |
| 22:01.25 | A1win | and hiding the empty vehicle unit |
| 22:01.31 | A1win | trigger controlled |
| 22:01.40 | JademusSreg | I've never played an enjoyable MMO, which is unfortunate, given the potential. |
| 22:01.55 | Taintedwisp | OH i remember what I saw lol |
| 22:01.56 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VSoxz7DqUg&feature=player_embedded |
| 22:02.19 | Taintedwisp | completely unrelated to what you need |
| 22:02.21 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 22:03.12 | Vailreth | is it any unit type that can enter exit a vehicle or a single type? |
| 22:05.10 | A1win | just one.. or two rather |
| 22:05.10 | Taintedwisp | WOW!!!!!!!, and america looks a little bit dumber..... some stupid mexican bitch living in america has been artificially inseminated with 9 kids, after already having 3... I cant even tell her to keep her legs closed.... |
| 22:05.14 | A1win | Vailreth, why is this relevant? |
| 22:05.40 | A1win | I just want the unit not get stuck, it shouldn't require remaking the entire vehicle system |
| 22:06.08 | Vailreth | was wondering if you could use a merge and morph abilities and add a rally point ability |
| 22:06.25 | A1win | I'm controlling the exit with triggers, I can place the unit anywhere I want D: |
| 22:06.45 | A1win | maybe I should detect unpathable terrain around the vehicle when exiting |
| 22:06.48 | A1win | and not exit to that direction |
| 22:06.57 | Vailreth | that could work |
| 22:08.06 | Taintedwisp | there is the 2nd way too lawl, make it so when your units touch the vehicle they die, and then make the unload button trait the units again |
| 22:08.18 | A1win | O_o |
| 22:08.28 | A1win | that's completely unrelated |
| 22:08.46 | Taintedwisp | it would detect the terrain... |
| 22:08.54 | Taintedwisp | and still simulate load and unload |
| 22:08.59 | A1win | the only problem is that the unit can't move *after* it has exited the vehicle |
| 22:09.22 | A1win | it doesn't get stuck inside the terrain |
| 22:09.26 | Taintedwisp | oh |
| 22:09.29 | A1win | just pushed into it from the vehicle |
| 22:09.30 | Taintedwisp | i misunderstood then |
| 22:09.51 | A1win | but yeah I'll just do a check in triggers |
| 22:10.40 | Taintedwisp | its too bad you cant make it so the footprint removes from the vehicle when it unloads. so that it wont push the unit, but that may look very unprofessional |
| 22:12.17 | A1win | I'd just need to remove the push from it, but I don't think I want the unit to just appear inside the vehicle ;p |
| 22:12.37 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 22:12.49 | Taintedwisp | i dunno, im only mediocre at data lol |
| 22:15.15 | Vailreth | going to see what happens when i try to merge two diffrent players archons with having share contoll flag and a modifed interact ability |
| 22:19.57 | Taintedwisp | 2 archons merge to make the megachon |
| 22:20.15 | Vailreth | i mean hightemplar |
| 22:20.21 | Taintedwisp | its a secret unit, you have to type the cheat poogettios to get it to work |
| 22:20.22 | Taintedwisp | :D |
| 22:20.26 | Vailreth | but looks like it wont work |
| 22:21.08 | Vailreth | you cant have a neutral and owned unit selected at the same time sadly |
| 22:21.09 | Taintedwisp | YOU could make it so the High templar collides with another hightempler and it spawns a Archon |
| 22:21.27 | Vailreth | true but i was just playing around |
| 22:22.17 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:25.25 | Taintedwisp | Trojan Space War |
| 22:25.30 | Taintedwisp | okay thats the name |
| 22:25.31 | Taintedwisp | Imma start |
| 22:26.51 | Taintedwisp | Hey if I am making a Storm the castle type map, What would you suggest for map size? |
| 22:27.02 | Taintedwisp | The castle is going to take up 1/4th the map |
| 22:27.15 | Taintedwisp | maybe 1/8th |
| 22:27.38 | A1win | yay it works |
| 22:28.31 | Taintedwisp | Congrats |
| 22:29.25 | A1win | http://pastebin.com/ZMf7uMz2 |
| 22:33.52 | Taintedwisp | A1win I just want you to know... |
| 22:33.59 | Taintedwisp | that i dont understand any of that |
| 22:34.02 | A1win | :P |
| 22:34.02 | Taintedwisp | XD |
| 22:38.44 | A1win | hehe my map is catching up with photon discs on EU |
| 22:39.56 | Taintedwisp | whats your map? |
| 22:40.08 | A1win | CraftCraft |
| 22:40.09 | Vailreth | CraftCraft |
| 22:40.11 | Taintedwisp | photon discs on NA is page 3 or 4 |
| 22:40.16 | Taintedwisp | ah, must be EU only |
| 22:40.22 | A1win | yeah for now |
| 22:40.46 | A1win | released it yesterday, just waiting till I've done most of my patching before bothering anyone to release on US |
| 22:40.54 | Taintedwisp | OH yours is the Halo wars type map right? |
| 22:41.05 | A1win | err no |
| 22:41.10 | Taintedwisp | But i thought there was already a halo wars map on sc2 |
| 22:41.15 | Taintedwisp | oh wai |
| 22:41.18 | Taintedwisp | thats craft wars |
| 22:41.20 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:41.37 | A1win | http://a1win.blogspot.com/ check the older posts |
| 22:42.11 | A1win | http://a1win.blogspot.com/2012/01/introducing-craftcraft-for-starcraft-ii.html |
| 22:42.19 | A1win | that particularly |
| 22:42.59 | A1win | that's written in january so some of the info in it is a bit outdated, but it explains the idea |
| 22:43.31 | Ahli | do spawnpools and hatcheries actually spawn waves? |
| 22:43.41 | A1win | if you go near them |
| 22:43.47 | A1win | if you stand on creep near them, that is |
| 22:43.59 | A1win | hmm that's quite unclear, I should explain it somehow |
| 22:44.06 | A1win | not sure how though |
| 22:44.12 | JademusSreg | Visually. |
| 22:44.30 | A1win | yeah but... how D: |
| 22:45.51 | A1win | the player doesn't necessarily see the structure, so can't be an animation on it |
| 22:46.08 | Taintedwisp | im not going to lie, im completely oblivious to what your map is about, but it does look pretty cool, if you need any testers on the NA side or if you need anything throw me a message |
| 22:46.38 | A1win | well I don't really need anything but any kind of useful feedback (and moar players!) |
| 22:47.24 | A1win | it's pretty much done, just needs some tweaks for user experience, and possibly a few extra features if I can spare the time |
| 22:49.48 | A1win | some kind of a warning... thing, when the player is standing on creep that's causing units to spawn |
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| 22:50.50 | A1win | a red text tag attached to the player's unit saying "Hostile Creep"? ._x |
| 22:50.59 | A1win | seems a bit weird |
| 22:52.11 | JademusSreg | Show > Tell |
| 22:52.25 | A1win | well the player already sees when the units spawn |
| 22:52.36 | A1win | but I don't know how to show him *why* they spawn |
| 22:54.55 | A1win | sometimes there's rocks around the player so that if he stands on the creep, he can't see much of the creep, so it can't be a visual thing on the creep itself |
| 22:55.19 | A1win | oh |
| 22:55.34 | JademusSreg | The Drakken Laser Drill has a reticle attachment on the target, the Tactical Nuke paints a red dot... |
| 22:55.51 | A1win | how about a radius actor for the building |
| 22:56.04 | A1win | that shows how close you can go before it starts spawning |
| 22:56.06 | Vailreth | how about if the player unit moves over creep reveal that area of creep and show whats going on on it for a few seconds? |
| 22:56.15 | Vailreth | when it happens for the first time |
| 22:56.34 | A1win | I can't, the rocks at that area might not exist bcause they are spawned dynamically |
| 22:56.45 | A1win | he can see the units that spawn as radar dots |
| 22:56.48 | A1win | but that's not enough |
| 22:57.18 | A1win | seeing that they spawn doesn't tell him why they spawned |
| 22:57.30 | A1win | the radius actor would give a hint |
| 22:58.09 | Vailreth | i think together they would reinforcec each other |
| 22:59.17 | A1win | but there's nothing "going on", it's just a trigger that causes the units to spawn and then starts a cooldown for it... or something like that, forgot the details |
| 23:00.00 | A1win | I'll see what I can do with that radius thing |
| 23:01.57 | Vailreth | i should go back and play ff8 i think |
| 23:02.03 | Vailreth | again |
| 23:03.01 | A1win | how can I make a range actor that's always visible on a unit while that unit is alive? |
| 23:05.56 | A1win | ah it works... now I just need to figure out how to make it always visible even while the unit itself is hidden in fog of war |
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| 23:10.58 | A1win | that works... can't seem to be able to change its color with tint though |
| 23:12.15 | A1win | I guess I should use a custom texture |
| 23:19.37 | A1win | meh dunno |
| 23:19.43 | A1win | it's not super clear this way either |
| 23:19.56 | A1win | and it looks weird with lots of structures |
| 23:23.56 | A1win | hmm... if I ping the structure that spawns things, it's a bit clearer |
| 23:24.51 | A1win | yeah might work |
| 23:25.00 | A1win | a simple 0.5 sec ping |
| 23:26.12 | Vailreth | unless you use that boss/enemy ping from the campaign players may mistake it for a place to go atfirst |
| 23:28.04 | A1win | it's a red ping |
| 23:28.30 | A1win | that's what used for things taking damage, but damage pings last for longer |
| 23:29.12 | A1win | and it uses the ping sound rather than damage alert |
| 23:29.21 | A1win | mmh |
| 23:29.26 | A1win | dunno if it's enough |
| 23:37.07 | A1win | any idea what are the exact aspect ratios for the small and large preview images? |
