| 00:02.08 | Kueken | ..okay, that is, if you use galaxy script |
| 00:02.25 | Kueken | should not be needed in Gui |
| 00:02.48 | Kueken | just combine 2 texts with your number, one holds the opening tag, the other one closes it |
| 00:02.58 | xFtWx | Okay, I'll try that |
| 00:07.22 | JademusSreg | http://pastebin.com/Bn4A8Mca |
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| 00:09.30 | JademusSreg | Sure, I could have nested TextReplaceWord, but that would have been more difficult to read. |
| 00:09.36 | xFtWx | Okay thank you Kueken |
| 00:09.39 | xFtWx | worked perfectly :D |
| 00:14.06 | JademusSreg | Of course, one can just as well concatenate text, as Kueken suggested. http://pastebin.com/CHuYDeK8 |
| 00:24.25 | Dustin | so jade |
| 00:24.36 | Dustin | Im going to add an ability to units that can upgrade |
| 00:24.39 | Otixa | Donkeys. |
| 00:24.42 | Dustin | instead of the ui button |
| 00:24.55 | Dustin | And im going to make the shop a building the town makes |
| 00:25.52 | Dustin | And I think Im going to have 1 level tracking across everything |
| 00:26.07 | Dustin | And have the difficulty scale based on an averages of levels |
| 00:26.20 | Otixa | hits Dustin with a donkey |
| 00:26.30 | Dustin | Sup |
| 00:26.37 | Otixa | Durrrrrr @_@ |
| 00:26.48 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 00:26.51 | JademusSreg | Interesting. |
| 00:26.52 | Otixa | All work and no play makes Otixa stall |
| 00:27.13 | Otixa | JademusSreg, make me diablo-like player controls and camera |
| 00:27.14 | Otixa | ;P |
| 00:27.25 | JademusSreg | Easy. =D |
| 00:27.27 | Dustin | I already made one |
| 00:27.30 | Otixa | In UDK :P |
| 00:27.35 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 00:27.36 | Kueken | search the forums, there should be pre-made systems |
| 00:27.40 | Kueken | ok |
| 00:27.41 | Kueken | -.- |
| 00:27.53 | Dustin | Its probably easier in UDK actually :P |
| 00:28.01 | Otixa | I'm boycotting SC2 engine until they release dev tools ;p |
| 00:28.14 | Otixa | Not quite, you have to extend a bunch of classes |
| 00:28.26 | Otixa | And no idea how i'd get mouse click location :/ |
| 00:29.45 | JademusSreg | With regards to Diablo 3 controls and targetting, it's all entirely relative to position and rotation; it hints that a console port is almost certain, given that controls would work just as well with analog sticks. |
| 00:31.09 | Otixa | Ye, but less precise |
| 00:31.11 | JademusSreg | Some of the abilities are point specific, like the Barbarian Leap and some of the AoE spells, but those shouldn't be too much of an issue. |
| 00:31.36 | Otixa | But still, can any of you make me the controls for UDK? ;p |
| 00:32.48 | JademusSreg | Could I? Probably, but the time for me is non-trivial, so I can't just do it on request. =D |
| 00:33.01 | Otixa | :< |
| 00:33.13 | Otixa | 10bux? :P |
| 00:33.18 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 00:33.21 | JademusSreg | bbl |
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| 00:57.07 | Mexa_ | night! |
| 01:07.27 | Ahli | damned, seems like I can't use a custom loading bar :S |
| 01:07.58 | Vailreth | yeah NOPE |
| 01:08.32 | Vailreth | i was working on that for a week |
| 01:09.04 | Ahli | seems like that is loaded before every other data from the map :S |
| 01:09.43 | Vailreth | i tried using a mod file |
| 01:10.04 | Vailreth | but no matter what i couldnt get the custom art to show |
| 01:10.40 | Vailreth | i think it had something to do with the Art not fitting the loading bar size |
| 01:14.05 | Ahli | the size stayed the same, I only recolored it. :S |
| 01:16.31 | Otixa | Failreth! |
| 01:16.33 | Otixa | pokes it |
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| 01:20.36 | MindWorX | Silly Mexa, go to sleep you |
| 01:22.08 | Mexa|z | derpderpderp |
| 01:22.30 | Mexa|z | I'm on my way actually! |
| 01:22.35 | MindWorX | GO |
| 01:22.41 | Mexa|z | ;D |
| 01:22.49 | MindWorX | Or I'll hug you! |
| 01:22.56 | MindWorX | DONT THINK I WONT DO IT |
| 01:23.15 | Mexa|z | Daaw |
| 01:23.28 | MindWorX | DONT YOU DAWW ME! |
| 01:23.37 | MindWorX | commences with the hugging! |
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| 01:24.12 | Mexa|z | In my language, that means kzzzt! Brnnchh! W'rkncacnter! |
| 01:24.30 | MindWorX | You're a robot? |
| 01:24.42 | Mexa|z | No, but a mexaling, am I not:p? |
| 01:24.53 | MindWorX | True. |
| 01:24.55 | MindWorX | Silly you |
| 01:25.43 | Mexa|z | http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/games/blizzkidzz/ you didn't miss that did you? |
| 01:26.18 | MindWorX | Of course not. :P |
| 01:27.18 | Otixa | Good stuff xD |
| 01:36.40 | A1win | damn I should really get my map released before diablo 3 or all hope is lost for me ever returning to it |
| 01:37.18 | A1win | I'll just drop max players to 4 so I don't need to worry about how it'd be with 5-6 |
| 01:37.35 | A1win | because I'm quite sure it'd be worse than with 1-4 |
| 01:37.51 | A1win | well, worse than with 3-4 at least, 1-2 isn't the awesomestest either |
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| 01:50.34 | A1win | hehe damn this map is complicated, can only properly realize it now that I've had like a two month break from playing it |
| 01:50.47 | A1win | already forgotten how to play it optimally myself :P |
| 01:51.40 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 01:52.25 | A1win | well I'm sure at least a few people are going to have some fun with this |
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| 02:01.55 | A1win | how can I reference the game mode in triggers? |
| 02:02.02 | A1win | nevermind |
| 02:02.18 | A1win | was just looking at it but didn't first notice it was there |
| 02:02.30 | A1win | err no, that's not it |
| 02:02.59 | A1win | I mean how can I reference the game variant? |
| 02:03.15 | A1win | ...or can I |
| 02:03.19 | A1win | oh, nevermind |
| 02:03.30 | A1win | I can just create an attribute that changes depending on the variant |
| 02:03.34 | JademusSreg | native string GameAttributeGameValue (string name); |
| 02:03.54 | Kueken | I am pretty sure, you need to do that, yes |
| 02:04.10 | Kueken | you cannot reference variants, but you can make them set a hidden attribute |
| 02:04.15 | A1win | mm |
| 02:08.14 | themusic | anyone know how to disable ai adding in the game lobby |
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| 02:19.35 | ckSynergy | Perhaps someone can explain to me, why is a "create persistant" behavior necessary? Code-wise. I realize its just "how the game works", but is there a reason we need to do it as opposed to just having a periodic effect run on a unit? |
| 02:20.53 | ckSynergy | Meaning, I understand we modders need to do it to have effects like auras work, but Im wondering why blizzard opted for that, and also wondering why a periodic effect doesnt work when theoretically it should |
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| 03:10.33 | Xapti | Jademussreg I never realized exactly what different levels in pathing were for, but I guess each level is a certain height? |
| 03:10.54 | Xapti | that would explain (at least to me) why some doodads have like stair-like elevations |
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| 03:32.44 | A1win | changed my difficulty settings to Hard and Brutal, nothing easier than that... problem solved! |
| 03:33.18 | A1win | gives a better idea what to expect ;p |
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| 03:34.31 | Bounty | Pew Pew |
| 03:35.24 | Currydevil | hola |
| 03:35.40 | Currydevil | So, I think I will add in scout long range attacking... |
| 03:35.47 | Currydevil | but that's going to be annoying to implement. |
| 03:36.53 | Bounty | haha |
| 03:36.57 | Bounty | dat damn scout |
| 03:36.58 | Bounty | >< |
| 03:37.16 | Currydevil | indeed |
| 03:37.21 | Currydevil | i'm not sure how to do it yet lol |
| 03:37.25 | Currydevil | working on banks atm |
| 03:37.39 | Currydevil | going add a save/load layout feature |
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| 03:40.14 | Otixa | burps |
| 03:40.57 | Currydevil | and a couple preset layouts for newbies. |
| 03:51.52 | Xapti | jademus you use super m eat boy music? |
| 03:52.27 | JademusSreg | I use C418 music, who did some Super Meat Boy music and does the audio for Minecraft. |
| 03:52.30 | MindWorX | Yeah JademusSreg, you a thief or sumting? Can't maek your own shit!? |
| 03:52.46 | JademusSreg | I asked him, haha, got explicit permission. |
| 03:52.53 | MindWorX | <3 |
| 03:52.56 | JademusSreg | In the tigsource channel, coincidentally. |
| 03:53.06 | JademusSreg | Gotta respect content creators. |
| 03:53.15 | Xapti | one of hte tracks sounds a lot liek a meat boy tune |
| 03:53.22 | JademusSreg | It is. |
| 03:53.25 | Xapti | I've never played super meatboy though i don't think |
| 03:53.50 | JademusSreg | The track is called MeatCraft remix. |
| 03:53.54 | Xapti | so do you know much about pathing levels that I was talking about? |
| 03:54.01 | JademusSreg | A sort of SMB and Minecraft track mashup. |
| 03:54.26 | JademusSreg | Sorry, I missed that. What about pathing levels? |
| 03:54.29 | Xapti | maybe each level is like 25% of the occulusion height or something |
| 03:54.53 | Xapti | or it would be 1/3, which would make sense if it was on level 3 |
| 03:55.00 | Xapti | is LOS on level 3 ? |
| 03:55.22 | Xapti | Jademussreg I never realized exactly what different levels in pathing were for, but I guess each level is a certain height? |
| 03:55.22 | Xapti | that would explain (at least to me) why some doodads have like stair-like elevations |
| 03:55.29 | JademusSreg | Pretty sure the footprint Layers are used to provide different layer settings. |
| 03:55.41 | Xapti | yeah but why do they need to be different layers |
| 03:55.52 | Xapti | like what's the point |
| 03:56.14 | Xapti | oh this is perplexing to me, I just realized something |
| 03:56.16 | Xapti | oh man |
| 03:56.28 | JademusSreg | So if Layer set 1 was filled with No Build, and Layer set 2 had Block Vision only in the center, the entire footprint would block building, but only the center would block vision. |
| 03:56.35 | Xapti | OKso pathing doesn't seem to rotate or scale with doodad rotation or scaling, but |
| 03:56.54 | Xapti | I scaled a stairs platform once (like ziggurat shaped) |
| 03:56.58 | Xapti | and it scaled |
| 03:57.07 | Xapti | although that wasn't pathing per se |
| 03:57.11 | JademusSreg | Are you refering to the part units -walk- on? |
| 03:57.13 | Xapti | it was some sort of elevaion though |
| 03:57.22 | JademusSreg | Because the walkable plane is defined in the asset. |
| 03:57.36 | Xapti | oh right yeah I remember why there's layers |
| 03:57.43 | Bounty | best update launch bug ever |
| 03:57.46 | Xapti | yeah i realized that once too, i guess i just forgot |
| 03:57.54 | Xapti | what happened now bounty |
| 03:57.56 | Bounty | in FFA mode on the new map the announcer just kept repeating first Blood |
| 03:58.03 | Bounty | no killing sprees |
| 03:58.06 | Bounty | just first blood |
| 03:58.08 | Bounty | lolol |
| 03:58.28 | Bounty | all good now though Xapti |
| 03:58.32 | Bounty | its good to go |
| 03:58.51 | Xapti | jade were you talking about heights? |
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| 03:59.00 | Ahli | http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/1742/screenshot2012042405473.jpg |
| 03:59.11 | Xapti | I'm wondering where heights of units stepping on top are set |
| 03:59.31 | JademusSreg | Model asset. |
| 03:59.34 | Xapti | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:59.43 | Xapti | it's easily changeable, is it? |
| 03:59.50 | JademusSreg | Nope. |
| 03:59.55 | Xapti | yeah didn't think so |
| 04:00.00 | JademusSreg | You can -toggle- it. |
| 04:00.15 | Xapti | I noticed if you dno't scale XYZ uniform, it messes up |
| 04:00.18 | JademusSreg | But until the art tools are released, custom walkable planes are not feasible. |
| 04:00.26 | Xapti | it becomes simplified to just 1 level |
| 04:01.00 | JademusSreg | Oh, and there's another trick involving models with physics bodies, where Always Keyframed will make those physics bodies walkable, I'm told. |
| 04:01.16 | Xapti | I remember a long time ago in the beta someone made stairs with depots |
| 04:01.24 | Xapti | but I don't think he used that? |
| 04:01.36 | Xapti | just manual stuff, maybe even with triggers or something |
| 04:01.48 | Currydevil | there's a vid of something in the archives about a cube map, where you could walk on cubes and make stairs/higher levels. |
| 04:02.10 | Xapti | that walking cube thingy? |
| 04:02.23 | Xapti | yeah I think i know what you're talking about |
| 04:02.56 | Xapti | that sounds interesting though jademus, has there been much experimentation with that? |
| 04:03.08 | JademusSreg | With what? |
| 04:03.11 | JademusSreg | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/Images/DataBasedElevator.jpg |
| 04:03.27 | Xapti | Well I'm going to go cook some extra fancy long grain rice now |
| 04:03.36 | JademusSreg | Damn, I should take a more recent screenshot. |
| 04:03.50 | Xapti | with walkable physics bodies through keyframed |
| 04:04.03 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 04:04.23 | JademusSreg | But not all models have physics bodies. |
| 04:04.38 | Xapti | I suppose that's not surprising |
| 04:04.50 | Currydevil | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/project-workplace/23925-proof-of-concept-cube3/ |
| 04:04.51 | JademusSreg | Another route is to create a transparent model with a walkable plane attached to it. |
| 04:04.53 | Currydevil | that one |
| 04:05.03 | Xapti | yeah I saw that |
| 04:05.15 | Xapti | walking cube thingy |
| 04:06.20 | Xapti | would it be possible to make a physics-using air hockey game? |
| 04:06.35 | JademusSreg | I've guessing the height was set manually, rather than by walkable plane, from the look of it. |
| 04:06.45 | Xapti | I'm sure someone's probably already made a air hockey, but what about less trigger dependency |
| 04:06.51 | Xapti | (well i wouldn't be sure) |
| 04:07.18 | JademusSreg | The amount of control put into making them move via spinning faces demonstrates a firm understanding of actor data. |
| 04:07.40 | Xapti | huh? the cubes? |
| 04:08.20 | Xapti | was the manuall thing referring to the elevator or the cube? |
| 04:08.33 | JademusSreg | Yeah, I don't recall any animations like that on the cube model. |
| 04:08.36 | Xapti | I assume the second sentence was about the cube |
| 04:08.54 | JademusSreg | Both were about the cube. |
| 04:09.23 | JademusSreg | The data based elevator is the product of some recent tinkering. |
| 04:17.16 | JademusSreg | Works damn well and looks pretty, but I've not yet found an efficient, general case solution. |
| 04:23.35 | JademusSreg | It uses 1 actor, 4 units, 4 abilities, 4 footprints per elevator. Argh. |
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| 04:25.21 | xFtWx | How do I make a header for a leaderboard? |
| 04:25.31 | xFtWx | I can't seem to find the function |
| 04:27.02 | themusic | anyone know how to disable adding ai in the game lobby? |
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| 04:27.34 | JademusSreg | themus, Game Variants, iirc. |
| 04:28.12 | xFtWx | NVM I figured the leaderboard thing out |
| 04:28.27 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 04:35.48 | Dustin | hmmm |
| 04:35.59 | Dustin | The blizzard test shop wont allow submenu command buttons |
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| 04:47.48 | Currydevil | little girl likes to press the power and reset buttons on my pc. -.- |
| 05:08.11 | Currydevil | Question on banks... how do i load a unit from a bank or do a comparison on a unit saved in a bank? not quite sure how 'last restored unit' works. |
| 05:09.40 | Dustin | Set a unit variable to the bank unit data? |
| 05:10.00 | Currydevil | I suppose i'll have to do that. |
| 05:10.51 | Currydevil | well, even with that, there is no 'load unit' action for banks |
| 05:11.01 | Currydevil | all there is that I can see is 'last restored unit' |
| 05:12.54 | Dustin | sir |
| 05:12.55 | Dustin | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:13.06 | Dustin | that will create your unit |
| 05:13.47 | Currydevil | I don't want to create it yet. I need to check it -.- that's the prob |
| 05:13.54 | Currydevil | I tried doing a unit type of unit |
| 05:15.43 | Dustin | Store another key of unit Type |
| 05:17.02 | Currydevil | I don't see a unit type. |
| 05:17.05 | Currydevil | Just unit. |
| 05:17.27 | Currydevil | boolean, int, point, real, string, text, unit |
| 05:19.28 | Currydevil | I will have to save it as an probably. |
| 05:19.35 | Currydevil | Seems the easiest way to compare it. |
| 05:19.40 | Currydevil | as an int* |
| 05:23.08 | Dustin | string |
| 05:23.15 | Dustin | you can convert unittype from string |
| 05:23.27 | Dustin | i do it for using chat messages to make units |
| 05:23.51 | Zanam | from my experience its best to save that kind of data from one long string and chop it |
| 05:24.08 | Zanam | because there is a ton of wasted space created from each different key and section |
| 05:24.44 | Dustin | so you can do If Bank_UnitType == ConvertStringToUnitType(Banked_Unit_Type_String) |
| 05:25.12 | Currydevil | yeah well, int will prob work better for me with what i'm doing. |
| 05:25.12 | Dustin | Eh, depends how much room you need |
| 05:25.35 | Currydevil | i'm storing 40 units per player if they choose to save a layout. |
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| 06:05.29 | flyingspatula | hey jade my love, had a chance lately to play with pitchroll? |
| 06:05.45 | JademusSreg | Haha, nope. |
| 06:06.32 | JademusSreg | I get to these things in time. |
| 06:12.03 | Currydevil | cool, saving/loading layout works. |
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| 06:27.02 | flyingspatula | hah ok just thot id be the kid poking R WE THERE YET |
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| 06:46.54 | Bounty | Idra and a bunch of ppl are playing Photon discs |
| 06:46.55 | Bounty | http://www.twitch.tv/puckk |
| 06:46.56 | Bounty | lol |
| 06:52.21 | flyingspatula | may ur epeen grow ever larger |
| 06:59.41 | flyingspatula | lol soccer? |
| 06:59.50 | flyingspatula | i was making a soccer tps lol got bored |
| 07:02.31 | Bounty | they played like 20 games of my map |
| 07:02.33 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:02.38 | Bounty | said they're going to promote it :) |
| 07:02.41 | flyingspatula | nice |
| 07:03.08 | flyingspatula | good to see ur trying to get ur map noticed |
| 07:03.21 | Bounty | lol they found it on their own |
| 07:03.26 | Bounty | from someone who plays my map |
| 07:03.28 | Bounty | showed them the video |
| 07:05.11 | flyingspatula | cool lol |
| 07:07.19 | Currydevil | I ... don't ... want to implement scout long range attack =P |
| 07:07.51 | Currydevil | the scout requires so much more for everything except the what he wins/loses to. |
| 07:07.58 | Currydevil | vs all the other units. |
| 07:12.17 | Otixa | roars |
| 07:23.51 | JademusSreg | Cool. |
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| 13:08.29 | Ashamed | Roar.... |
| 13:08.32 | Ashamed | good morning |
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| 13:37.13 | Ashamed | Its AHLI! |
| 13:43.44 | Ahli | :o |
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| 14:10.45 | Mexa | Mindy! You wake yet? |
| 14:10.49 | Mexa | *awake |
| 14:13.53 | Ahli | how are the F10 game menu's images called (the dialog that pops up with buttons and frame... I want these)? |
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| 14:14.14 | Kueken | Hey. |
| 14:14.39 | Kueken | Is it normal, that you get flooded with error messages, when placing the DecalProtoss doodads? |
| 14:18.12 | Ahli | the last time I placed a decal on a map was in beta :X |
| 14:25.41 | Kueken | :) |
| 14:27.14 | Kueken | any way to only send an actor message ingame, not in the editor? |
| 14:27.32 | Kueken | preferably in data |
| 14:31.17 | Kueken | nvm, got something |
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| 14:38.42 | Ahli | sandiego_full.dds is in assets, it's black and white and rotated view of a city skyline... o0 |
| 14:40.54 | Kueken | have a look at bobblehead_ad.dds :D |
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| 14:51.03 | Ashamed | t00000morrow is burrito day |
| 14:53.00 | JademusSreg | Every day is burrito day for me. |
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| 15:01.37 | Vailreth | burrto |
| 15:02.23 | Vailreth | muy caliente |
| 15:15.07 | MindWorX | Mexa, I am now. |
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| 15:37.11 | A1win | ugh damn still a bug in my power grid system :[ cable units sometimes are left on the map when demolishing multiple structures at the same time |
| 16:00.30 | Kueken | :/ |
| 16:00.38 | JademusSreg | Pew pew/ |
| 16:00.54 | Kueken | I have rotating decals in the editor, but they don't rotate ingame |
| 16:01.01 | JademusSreg | Odd. |
| 16:01.19 | Kueken | yes |
| 16:03.13 | Kueken | they seem to be created at a fixed location on map initialization |
| 16:03.39 | Kueken | if I attach them to a unit, they follow the unit in the editor, but are stationary ingame |
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| 16:04.19 | A1win | think I nailed the bug... |
| 16:04.33 | A1win | 1h 30min to finish the map in singleplayer on easier difficulty :P |
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| 17:06.08 | Ashamed | ahhh why are onsite techs sooo stupid |
| 17:07.46 | MindWorX | JademusSreg, Ryan can never know! |
| 17:13.10 | Ashamed | tell ryan |
| 17:13.11 | Ashamed | TELL HIM |
| 17:16.35 | Ashamed | anyone here ever use a hybrid hard drive? |
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| 17:18.42 | Bounty | Pew Pew |
| 17:18.53 | Ashamed | no |
| 17:18.53 | Bounty | Love watching ppl stream PD lol |
| 17:18.54 | Ashamed | NOOOOOOOOOO |
| 17:19.08 | Bounty | Idra was playing it last night :) |
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| 17:58.05 | IskatuMesk | fatty |
| 17:59.05 | JademusSreg | Is a strange model. |
| 17:59.32 | IskatuMesk | ur fase is a strange model |
| 17:59.35 | IskatuMesk | oooOoOooo burn |
| 17:59.41 | JademusSreg | I remember seeing it in the reveal trailers for SC2 WoL, but I suppose it was cut in favor of the Infestor. |
| 17:59.48 | IskatuMesk | yes |
| 17:59.58 | IskatuMesk | but my mom never cuts out, only in, to steal all the lard |
| 18:00.02 | JademusSreg | Probably because it looks to damn goofy. |
| 18:00.06 | JademusSreg | The Fatty, I mean. |
| 18:00.18 | IskatuMesk | everything in sc2 looks goofy |
| 18:00.22 | IskatuMesk | seen the battlecruiser? |
| 18:00.45 | JademusSreg | I've seen several model variants in the assets. =D |
| 18:00.49 | JademusSreg | To which are you refering? |
| 18:00.52 | IskatuMesk | yes |
| 18:00.56 | IskatuMesk | the normal one |
| 18:01.08 | IskatuMesk | it looks so... ugly |
| 18:01.21 | IskatuMesk | I had that one guy bust out a rigged version of the cinematic bc but |
| 18:01.27 | IskatuMesk | I discovered he did mesh optimize or something on it |
| 18:01.31 | IskatuMesk | which destroyed the mesh |
| 18:01.36 | IskatuMesk | so I'm gonna re-rig it myself sometime |
| 18:01.56 | IskatuMesk | then I'll have to modify the textures I guess |
| 18:02.07 | IskatuMesk | the alternative is to model my own bc but I got enough to do |
| 18:02.19 | Triceron | the cinematic BC has like 5+ textures on it |
| 18:02.25 | IskatuMesk | indeed |
| 18:02.46 | IskatuMesk | I'll just be changing the color scheme and perhaps adding some player color |
| 18:02.56 | IskatuMesk | if I can even do that, my photoshop skills are the worst of them all |
| 18:03.07 | JademusSreg | Hi thar Triceratops. |
| 18:03.18 | Triceron | well you'll prolly have to modify a bit of each of the textures to get TC then |
| 18:03.26 | Triceron | Ahoy Jade |
| 18:03.36 | IskatuMesk | zerg models will be tougher though. I'll definitely have to rely on tera/lineage 2 models, which means waiting for star tools |
| 18:03.55 | Triceron | BAM |
| 18:04.28 | IskatuMesk | hopefully they won't need animation rescaling again |
| 18:04.33 | IskatuMesk | that tends to be messy |
| 18:05.07 | IskatuMesk | if that is a null issue then porting those will probably be trivial so long as the exporter isn't silly |
| 18:05.51 | IskatuMesk | reskinning, not so trivial, will probably apply some hue changes to get what I want and hope for the best |
| 18:06.07 | Triceron | why woudl you need to rescale animation? |
| 18:06.17 | Triceron | can't you just scale the unit in data? |
| 18:06.23 | IskatuMesk | Well, the meshes come into max with like 30-200 frames per animation |
| 18:06.40 | IskatuMesk | those need to be rescaled to export properly because supposedly sc2 can't handle very low frame counts or something. |
| 18:06.47 | IskatuMesk | that's what I remember anyways |
| 18:06.49 | IskatuMesk | been a while |
| 18:07.03 | Triceron | if you're using the .m3 import, you can define the frames per second though |
| 18:07.11 | Triceron | wait, I mean export |
| 18:07.14 | IskatuMesk | I remember them freaking out when I did that |
| 18:07.16 | Triceron | .m3 exporter |
| 18:07.18 | Triceron | hrm |
| 18:07.32 | IskatuMesk | rescaling them in max also introduced a lot of strange issues |
| 18:07.46 | IskatuMesk | like a ton of random bind pose key frames getting inserted everywhere that had to be removed |
| 18:07.58 | IskatuMesk | luckily I've got a stack already rescaled and "fixed", just needing sc2 animation info |
| 18:08.15 | IskatuMesk | but as I experienced back when I was doing this, the exporter is kind of buggy |
| 18:08.48 | IskatuMesk | so, I'll wait and see |
| 18:10.43 | Triceron | yeah, maybe Star Tools will hopefully be a stabler solution |
| 18:11.21 | Triceron | *crosses fingers* |
| 18:11.23 | IskatuMesk | some more trivial things I need to do is like, setting every single zerg unit to use the same material settings as the baneling |
| 18:11.28 | IskatuMesk | but even that is non-trivial to do right now |
| 18:11.31 | IskatuMesk | so I can't really do it |
| 18:11.36 | IskatuMesk | export times and such |
| 18:11.36 | Triceron | why the baneling |
| 18:11.41 | IskatuMesk | emissive colors |
| 18:11.57 | IskatuMesk | I'm having an impossible time getting certain zerg units to take emissive colors like the baneling does |
| 18:11.59 | Triceron | to make em all glow? |
| 18:12.02 | IskatuMesk | indeed |
| 18:12.14 | IskatuMesk | as I discovered they all have a ton of different settings |
| 18:12.28 | IskatuMesk | some use specular for player color glow... others use emissive but won't take non-PC glow... |
| 18:12.34 | IskatuMesk | very weird |
| 18:13.10 | IskatuMesk | at least I had a bit more success with the creep |
| 18:14.00 | Vailreth | what did you do with the creep? |
| 18:14.04 | IskatuMesk | http://i.imgur.com/0XJMf.jpg |
| 18:14.23 | IskatuMesk | this is really really experimental so expect colors and such to be altered still |
| 18:14.29 | Triceron | Well the exporter does something weird with emissive exporting right now |
| 18:14.42 | Vailreth | i see |
| 18:14.57 | Triceron | I think it flips the black and white. Either way, it doesn't export the same if you do it custom as it does already in the game. |
| 18:14.59 | IskatuMesk | anyways, the way the creep height map stuff blends with my custom textures is rather interesting |
| 18:15.07 | IskatuMesk | I haven't changed the zerg m3's yet |
| 18:15.24 | Triceron | I've had to import custom emissives for many units that use it |
| 18:16.06 | Vailreth | i liked the sc/bw creep more it looked like it was tissue growing over thr ground and not slime |
| 18:16.19 | IskatuMesk | my goal here is to make a very blood/fleshy kind of race |
| 18:16.27 | IskatuMesk | and have some orange glow on the units to help define them |
| 18:16.37 | IskatuMesk | http://i.imgur.com/pKbDB.jpg |
| 18:17.30 | IskatuMesk | now, my texturing skills are so bad they are worse than entry level. So, I really have to screw around a lot to get anything looking respectable |
| 18:17.43 | IskatuMesk | skinning my custom models will suck |
| 18:17.51 | Vailreth | i would like to create a machine race but the art tools and my lack of ability with modeling and texturing prevent me |
| 18:18.03 | IskatuMesk | one of the races I'll be adding is a machine race |
| 18:18.11 | Vailreth | nice |
| 18:18.21 | IskatuMesk | http://i.imgur.com/rIl9j.png that's what this is for |
| 18:18.31 | Bounty | Pew Pew |
| 18:18.54 | IskatuMesk | of course, I can't animate, so any non-vehicular ground units will probably be kitbashed out of some rips |
| 18:19.11 | IskatuMesk | that I am pretty confident I can do, but I won't attempt it until I see if star tools makes this viable |
| 18:20.14 | Vailreth | i can animate and do some concepty art and model to a small degree but unwrapping is my nemisis |
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| 18:20.41 | IskatuMesk | all of my experience is static mesh/vehicle modeling |
| 18:20.46 | IskatuMesk | and ripping and such |
| 18:21.25 | Vailreth | i can rig and animate to a small degree |
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| 18:22.17 | Vailreth | mostly because i do not practice as i have no reason to really |
| 18:22.35 | IskatuMesk | I've been working with 3d graphics for like 10 years |
| 18:22.39 | IskatuMesk | but I am an extremely slow learner |
| 18:22.49 | IskatuMesk | so I am basically entry level still |
| 18:23.01 | IskatuMesk | hopefully my audio work can make up for that |
| 18:23.07 | Vailreth | i can learn fast if given a text book and practice |
| 18:23.10 | Bounty | JademusSreg |
| 18:23.20 | Bounty | Photon Discs and Photon Cycles are RIGHT next to eachother on the list |
| 18:23.21 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:23.30 | JademusSreg | <3 |
| 18:23.38 | Bounty | <3 |
| 18:24.05 | IskatuMesk | where my graphics will fall short is where my audio will have to pick up and carry the rest |
| 18:24.15 | IskatuMesk | in that field I know I am strong |
| 18:24.20 | Vailreth | my vision of a machne race is more organic with their equvilent of a barracks veing a vine that grows pods with their infantry in ithem |
| 18:24.21 | IskatuMesk | the hard part will be getting there |
| 18:25.15 | IskatuMesk | http://i.imgur.com/woTYK.jpg |
| 18:25.31 | Vailreth | nice |
| 18:25.47 | IskatuMesk | that's for a different project that is since completed |
| 18:25.57 | Vailreth | i see |
| 18:26.37 | IskatuMesk | http://i.imgur.com/lZiYw.jpg |
| 18:26.53 | IskatuMesk | http://i.imgur.com/hKaGq.png |
| 18:26.58 | IskatuMesk | I screwed it up though. |
| 18:27.20 | Vailreth | hm |
| 18:27.24 | IskatuMesk | It took me an extremely long time to finish, a lot longer then it should have. It wore me very thin mentally and eventually I let it go without polishing it like I should have |
| 18:27.31 | IskatuMesk | so it disappointed me vastly |
| 18:27.45 | Vailreth | ah |
| 18:28.45 | Vailreth | i think i need to stop working on my map and do some concept drawings for my literary project |
| 18:29.32 | IskatuMesk | I need to pull my shit together and start figuring out data editing |
| 18:29.36 | IskatuMesk | or my campaign will continue to go nowhere |
| 18:30.07 | IskatuMesk | ah, but things have changed so much since BW, and I am no longer confident I can learn anything at all |
| 18:30.12 | IskatuMesk | so that is where my weakness is. |
| 18:30.32 | Vailreth | ah i am a pretty good data editor my lacking is for ideas really |
| 18:30.42 | IskatuMesk | I've got too many ideas. |
| 18:31.06 | IskatuMesk | I spend too much time thinking of stuff and not acting on it, or trying to act on it |
| 18:32.00 | Vailreth | i can assist if you would like help form time to time |
| 18:32.17 | IskatuMesk | if you could teach me stuff that would be great |
| 18:33.04 | IskatuMesk | I think I need to try to first remember all of the stuff I was doing back when sc2 first came out |
| 18:33.14 | IskatuMesk | I had beams and shit figured out. Now I don't even remember how to make a new unit. Terrible |
| 18:33.15 | Vailreth | i can only impart the knowledge i have but i will share it you need or want to know it |
| 18:34.12 | IskatuMesk | Alright. Well, I first need to build a new, basic tech tree for the Necropolis |
| 18:34.16 | IskatuMesk | command center and such |
| 18:35.13 | IskatuMesk | and then make a flying missile turret that shoots beams and shit |
| 18:35.23 | IskatuMesk | this should be fantastic |
| 18:38.05 | Vailreth | did you have an alternative building styles in mind? |
| 18:39.55 | Triceron | you should make em shoot skulls! That'd be cool |
| 18:41.24 | JademusSreg | The skulls of eldritch horrors. |
| 18:45.33 | IskatuMesk | not sure about their buildings yet |
| 18:45.36 | IskatuMesk | I've been thinking about it |
| 18:45.47 | IskatuMesk | one of their ships is going to be based on this though http://www.transformerscustomtoys.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Transformers-TheNemesis-www.transformerscustomtoys.com_.jpg |
| 18:46.54 | IskatuMesk | I may for for an egyptian style, a la wc3 UD, but more pyramidy then pointy |
| 18:46.57 | IskatuMesk | not sure |
| 18:47.45 | Vailreth | i have a method of worker assisted self construction structures right now |
| 18:48.15 | Vailreth | sefl constructing |
| 18:48.51 | IskatuMesk | oh? |
| 18:49.24 | IskatuMesk | I should look up japanese-style robotic stuff in anime |
| 18:49.32 | IskatuMesk | I have a few ideas but they'd be hard for me to model |
| 18:50.21 | IskatuMesk | Also not sure if I should go for a shiny black kind of appearance, or something dark purple like that concept |
| 18:50.38 | Vailreth | its based on warp train and trains in a stationary unit that builds a structure over its self then dies when the structure its building is done, even has conjoinment so if the constructing structure is damaged or killed the dummy takes damage and dies as well |
| 18:51.37 | Vailreth | plus workers can assist the construction to speed it up and they do not die when the structure is complete |
| 18:55.30 | IskatuMesk | interesting |
| 18:57.24 | Vailreth | i am still trying to make it more diffrent that protoss structure warp in |
| 19:04.10 | IskatuMesk | JademusSreg |
| 19:04.13 | IskatuMesk | :p |
| 19:04.15 | IskatuMesk | check cc |
| 19:04.30 | JademusSreg | kk |
| 19:05.45 | JademusSreg | Neato. |
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| 19:27.48 | UloseTheGame | hey guys |
| 19:29.23 | JademusSreg | That seemed pointless. |
| 19:29.53 | IskatuMesk | lol |
| 19:30.02 | IskatuMesk | interns |
| 19:30.48 | HP-X|Arthas | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuDtACzKGRs |
| 19:31.07 | HP-X|Arthas | Totally not pointless video |
| 19:31.37 | Ashamed | arthas what city do you live in? |
| 19:32.02 | HP-X|Arthas | Stockholm atm |
| 19:32.04 | JademusSreg | The Frozen Throne, obviously. |
| 19:32.09 | HP-X|Arthas | but I quit my job and is moving back to umeƄ |
| 19:32.18 | HP-X|Arthas | then hopefully barcelona in the fall |
| 19:32.24 | HP-X|Arthas | I will conquer all |
| 19:32.35 | HP-X|Arthas | how are you Ashamed |
| 19:32.45 | Ashamed | Kungsgatan 12 411 19 Gothenburg |
| 19:32.47 | Ashamed | is that close? |
| 19:32.59 | HP-X|Arthas | nah |
| 19:33.12 | HP-X|Arthas | a few hours away i think |
| 19:33.21 | HP-X|Arthas | Are you going to sweden? |
| 19:33.37 | Ashamed | well not as of yet |
| 19:33.51 | Ashamed | or mby ever |
| 19:33.57 | Ashamed | its just this software my company bought |
| 19:34.08 | Ashamed | http://www.tific.com/contact/ |
| 19:34.14 | Ashamed | I may get to start sandboxing the code soon |
| 19:34.24 | Ashamed | so.... it could mby be in the future lol |
| 19:34.54 | HP-X|Arthas | Ah |
| 19:36.25 | HP-X|Arthas | Move to sweden - GET AIDS |
| 19:37.03 | IskatuMesk | mmm aids |
| 19:38.05 | HP-X|Arthas | Some learn to appreciate it |
| 19:51.02 | IskatuMesk | http://i.imgur.com/WgZOI.jpg quick and dirty building concept for necropolis supply depot |
| 19:54.31 | Ashamed | not bad iskatumesk |
| 19:54.41 | Ashamed | AIDS! |
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| 20:06.43 | Ashamed | lol crasherz |
| 20:07.29 | Ashamed | iskatumesk you got any screen shots of your map?? with all these custom models |
| 20:07.40 | IskatuMesk | no |
| 20:07.45 | Ashamed | WHAT THE FUCK |
| 20:07.48 | IskatuMesk | just some old stuff |
| 20:08.08 | IskatuMesk | these are just experiments |
| 20:08.34 | IskatuMesk | http://i.imgur.com/YxGwp.jpg |
| 20:08.38 | IskatuMesk | from sins |
| 20:10.28 | IskatuMesk | I'm looking for my old screenshot... where is it... |
| 20:11.16 | IskatuMesk | http://a.imageshack.us/img137/5010/terrain003.jpg this was one where it was kind of mangled |
| 20:12.07 | Ashamed | you dont have a current project? |
| 20:12.49 | IskatuMesk | I do but it's not public |
| 20:12.55 | IskatuMesk | and very early in |
| 20:13.01 | Xaragoth | monstrosity! |
| 20:13.03 | Xaragoth | burn it! |
| 20:13.05 | IskatuMesk | http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/8226/screenshot2010082707530.jpg |
| 20:13.32 | IskatuMesk | these are all ancient screenshots btw |
| 20:13.36 | IskatuMesk | unrelated to current project |
| 20:13.51 | IskatuMesk | http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/7186/screenshot2010090221274.jpg better shot of that first one |
| 20:14.12 | IskatuMesk | you wouldn't think those textures were this ludicrously overkill 4kx4k sets with how blurry they turned out ingame |
| 20:15.07 | A1win | probably using lower res mipmaps |
| 20:15.35 | IskatuMesk | yes |
| 20:15.40 | IskatuMesk | that crossed my mind a time later |
| 20:50.56 | IskatuMesk | http://i.imgur.com/9Pn2x.jpg lalalala I think I forgot how to model stuff |
| 20:51.48 | IskatuMesk | might change the central structure |
| 20:51.58 | IskatuMesk | more or less feeling around to see how I want this race to look |
| 21:19.07 | Ahli | does the custom script code branch (not the action you can add) in the GUI function actually work? |
| 21:31.40 | Kueken | I think, you need to check a flag for it to work |
| 21:43.17 | IskatuMesk | I'm sweaty |
| 21:43.26 | Currydevil | modeling hard? |
| 21:43.41 | IskatuMesk | yes |
| 21:43.44 | IskatuMesk | you could say that |
| 21:43.47 | IskatuMesk | gets me all steamed |
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| 21:44.26 | Currydevil | hawt |
| 21:54.32 | Vailreth | hmm |
| 22:00.16 | Ahli | custom script: if(lp_ID==100){return "items\\invSword19.dds"} What's wrong? |
| 22:01.40 | Ahli | got an idea |
| 22:06.09 | JademusSreg | ; |
| 22:06.42 | Ahli | ... |
| 22:06.44 | Ahli | oh my |
| 22:09.04 | Kueken | :D |
| 22:09.29 | Kueken | too bad Jade was faster |
| 22:09.43 | Ahli | and my parameter ID should be lp_id is lowercase by default... |
| 22:10.14 | Kueken | gui variables always change the first letter to lowercase |
| 22:10.31 | Kueken | only the first, though, so ID should become iD |
| 22:11.02 | Ahli | that's why I wait again that long |
| 22:11.53 | Ahli | but now... common compile it |
| 22:12.21 | Kueken | do you have an else and an alternative return? |
| 22:13.21 | Kueken | it shouldn't compile, if not all code paths return a value |
| 22:13.24 | Ahli | I should sleep more at night |
| 22:13.29 | Ahli | I really should |
| 22:13.46 | Kueken | :-* |
| 22:15.07 | Xapti | <Ahli> does the custom script code branch (not the action you can add) in the GUI function actually work? |
| 22:15.30 | Xapti | if you mean the action labeled "custom code" it worked fine for me |
| 22:16.05 | Kueken | (not the action you can add) |
| 22:16.29 | Xapti | so is it then instead of function/preset/value then? |
| 22:16.42 | Ahli | I know that the action works fine. I've used it before. But now it's the first time I want to write the complete code of a function in galaxy (because changing data in GUI takes like a 30 seconds each field because it contained images) |
| 22:17.01 | Ahli | compiled, saved :) |
| 22:17.21 | Xapti | oh I didn't understand the "not the action you coudl add" part lol |
| 22:17.58 | Ahli | custom script/code is an "action". There are actions and functions... |
| 22:18.09 | Xapti | yeah |
| 22:18.33 | Ahli | and I come from SCBW, so my code in triggers is always labeled "actions" in my head |
| 22:19.40 | Xapti | did you get it working? |
| 22:22.12 | Ahli | yes |
| 22:22.18 | Kueken | xD |
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| 22:22.35 | Kueken | I just tried to do a similar function out of interest |
| 22:22.54 | Kueken | and witnessed the most awesome function inlining ever xD |
| 22:23.13 | Ahli | ? |
| 22:23.27 | Kueken | I made a function, which initializes an integer to 0 and returns it |
| 22:23.40 | Kueken | and called it in a trigger to set a variable |
| 22:23.57 | Kueken | the resulting code was something like this: |
| 22:24.11 | Currydevil | To begins! |
| 22:24.12 | Kueken | int i= int i=0; return i; ; |
| 22:25.00 | Kueken | so the compiler actually inlined the function by copy&pasting the function script to the location it was called :D |
| 22:25.07 | Ahli | I guess I need to write my next part in galaxy, too, because it doesn't seem to exist in GUI |
| 22:25.25 | Kueken | function or action? |
| 22:25.33 | Kueken | only actions can be called by themselves |
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| 22:25.50 | Ahli | I want picture -> text. |
| 22:26.14 | Ahli | In the end I want to give tooltips images from that function |
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| 22:26.43 | Kueken | there is an image variable type in gui? |
| 22:26.55 | Ahli | file - image |
| 22:26.58 | Ahli | yes |
| 22:27.04 | Ahli | but it's just a string in code ;D |
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| 22:30.43 | Kueken | like about everything |
| 22:30.52 | Kueken | btw |
| 22:30.55 | Kueken | just tried it |
| 22:31.00 | Kueken | shows up for me |
| 22:31.09 | xTT1 | How do you open downloaded maps? |
| 22:31.09 | Ahli | my own GUI functions, do I need a prefix for these, too? |
| 22:31.31 | xTT1 | The .SC2Maps in the folder C:\ProgramData\Blizzard Entertainment\StarCraft II\Maps\Cache are all folders for some reason, and not galaxy map files |
| 22:31.52 | Ahli | something like lf_myFunction(myParameter) ? |
| 22:32.03 | Kueken | xTT1: You can open maps in the editor by selecting File -> Open -> Battle.net |
| 22:32.28 | xTT1 | They still appear as folders though |
| 22:32.30 | Kueken | Ahli: my function to convert string to image and vice-versa show up just fine |
| 22:32.31 | xTT1 | so they just open the folder |
| 22:32.51 | Ahli | not string conversion |
| 22:32.57 | Ahli | in GUI pictures are pictures |
| 22:33.01 | Ahli | and there is no conversion :S |
| 22:33.02 | Currydevil | ah this game is turning out so nice. |
| 22:33.16 | Kueken | yes, I made a custom conversion function |
| 22:33.49 | Ahli | lv_text = lv_text + StringToText(getItemPicture(lv_iD)); could that compile? |
| 22:34.29 | Kueken | could work |
| 22:34.45 | Ahli | how do you converse them? what's the code for that? |
| 22:34.50 | Kueken | I just made the functions, because you said, yours wasn't showing up in Gui |
| 22:35.37 | Ahli | so u made a function that returns an image and you made that image into a text variable? |
| 22:35.41 | Kueken | conversion from pseudo-string to string works by having the pseudo-string as parameter and string as return type and just returning the parameter |
| 22:36.07 | Ahli | I guess that's what I need now |
| 22:36.34 | Kueken | make a new function, return type string, 1 parameter, type image |
| 22:36.41 | Currydevil | http://i.imgur.com/7ZJ7j.jpg works so nice =O |
| 22:36.47 | Kueken | add 1 line of custom script which returns the parameter |
| 22:36.54 | Currydevil | now i have to actually let him attack that far |
| 22:37.02 | Kueken | and vice-versa for 2 way conversion |
| 22:38.41 | Ahli | what are the flags doing there, curry? |
| 22:39.06 | Currydevil | the flags are the facade for the enemy units |
| 22:39.15 | Ahli | I just noticed that I wrote my function in uppercase and the ID was different.. |
| 22:39.21 | Ahli | than I wrote it in my script |
| 22:39.25 | Ahli | so maybe it works |
| 22:39.29 | xTT1 | Can someone check if the .S2MA and .SC2Maps in the folder C:\ProgramData\Blizzard Entertainment\StarCraft II\Maps\Cache are actually literally folders or valid files that can be opened in Galaxy Editor |
| 22:39.35 | Currydevil | ie: the game tokens |
| 22:39.45 | Currydevil | player can see his units, enemy can see the back of the token |
| 22:40.01 | Currydevil | anyways, afk for a bit. going to put together a computer desk |
| 22:40.01 | Kueken | xTT1: the files can indeed be opened |
| 22:40.15 | xTT1 | okay, thank you kueken, there's something wrong with my computer then :( |
| 22:40.16 | xTT1 | they appear as files |
| 22:40.18 | xTT1 | folders* |
| 22:40.20 | Kueken | but all maps, which are public and not protected |
| 22:40.31 | Kueken | can be opened from within the editor |
| 22:40.40 | Kueken | by connecting to Bnet with the editor |
| 22:40.56 | Kueken | which will download the real map file |
| 22:42.06 | Ahli | ok, now I try it with a conversion function... |
| 22:42.18 | Kueken | the .S2MA files might be protected |
| 22:42.35 | Kueken | but you can rename them to .SC2Map and open them as well |
| 22:43.19 | Ahli | saving takes to long... nooo |
| 22:43.28 | Ahli | -> compiling error... :S |
| 22:43.39 | Kueken | did you convert to string? |
| 22:43.44 | Kueken | or did you try tex |
| 22:43.47 | Kueken | t |
| 22:43.55 | Ahli | parameter is image. return type is string |
| 22:44.23 | Kueken | the custom script label thingy seems to be bugged btw |
| 22:44.31 | Kueken | better add the custom script action |
| 22:44.41 | Ahli | I'm using an action atm |
| 22:44.44 | Kueken | ok |
| 22:44.52 | Ahli | else I would just overwrite it accidentially or delete the funtion ^^ |
| 22:44.59 | Kueken | and it is like this: |
| 22:45.05 | Kueken | return lp_s; |
| 22:45.14 | Kueken | s being the parameter |
| 22:45.42 | Ahli | what could be wrong: lv_text = lv_text + StringToText(ImageToString(getItemPicture(lv_iD))); ??? |
| 22:45.54 | Ahli | it doesn't want to compile that line |
| 22:46.27 | Kueken | I thought you made the conversion function to be useable in gui? |
| 22:47.07 | Kueken | otherwise, I am no magician, there could be all sorts of errors |
| 22:47.23 | Ahli | ok, made it in GUI now... |
| 22:47.50 | Kueken | you have 2 functions in there unknown to me, the variables might be wrong type... whatever |
| 22:48.05 | Ahli | mando diao - dance with somebody has a ping in the song which sounds like a windows error ping... :S |
| 22:48.36 | Ahli | I'm tapping around like an idiot because I heared that sound and want to find the error window :S |
| 22:49.42 | Ahli | now I'm interested why the heck it works in GUI and not in my galaxy code :S |
| 22:50.33 | Kueken | :) |
| 22:50.45 | Ahli | if the script window would just load faster :S |
| 22:52.41 | Ahli | there is a gf_ prefix for my GUI functions |
| 22:57.53 | Ahli | now I wonder if there are private functions, too because the gf should stand for global function |
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| 23:07.40 | Ahli | mapster page made my opera die, opera said :'( |
| 23:11.16 | Ahli | http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/8996/screenshot2012042501094.jpg :) |
| 23:11.45 | Triceron | yum! |
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| 23:19.54 | Ahli | does the tooltip for units got an own style or can I define it? |
| 23:30.32 | JademusSreg | Both. |
| 23:31.15 | Ahli | I want to define orientations |
| 23:31.33 | Ahli | so more than just font, and size, etc... |
| 23:32.19 | JademusSreg | Like vjustify and hjustify? |
| 23:32.27 | JademusSreg | Clarify orientations. |
| 23:32.42 | Ahli | yes |
| 23:33.12 | JademusSreg | I mention those because they are a common style attribute. |
| 23:33.39 | Ahli | <Style name="StandardTooltip_Terr" template="StandardTooltip" textcolor="#ColorTerranTooltip" hjustify="Center" vjustify="Middle"/> screws with lengths of tooltip background |
| 23:33.55 | Ahli | or it just doesn't fit inside them anymore;D |
| 23:34.03 | JademusSreg | How so? A screenshot would be informative. =D |
| 23:36.09 | Ahli | but the tooltip I wanted to change remained the same... http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5531/screenshot2012042501344.jpg |
| 23:37.10 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 23:37.30 | JademusSreg | The image frame is a subframe of the message display element. |
| 23:38.22 | Ahli | but I didn't really want to edit these tooltips, basically I wanted to edit the tooltip of units like the item on the ground's one |
| 23:38.42 | JademusSreg | In what way? |
| 23:39.05 | Ahli | http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/8996/screenshot2012042501094.jpg I guess I can lift the text into the middle of the line somehow with editing styles |
| 23:39.33 | JademusSreg | I'd hope so. =D |
| 23:39.39 | Ahli | like vjustify ^^ |
| 23:39.54 | Ahli | but that thing remained the same, so I guess it has an own one |
| 23:40.26 | JademusSreg | Practically every frame has its own style, it seems. |
| 23:41.39 | Ahli | shouldn't be commandtargetprompt, no? |
| 23:41.52 | JademusSreg | is not certain. |
| 23:42.06 | JademusSreg | I'd need to dig around in the UI layout files to be certain. |
| 23:42.43 | Ahli | worldtooltip looks good |
| 23:43.41 | Ahli | are the race suffixes automatically added, if they exist? |
| 23:44.42 | JademusSreg | I expect that is the case. |
| 23:46.11 | Ahli | infinite recursion detected >_> |
| 23:46.18 | JademusSreg | Sweet. |
| 23:48.20 | Ahli | yeah. I'm doing good things |
| 23:48.33 | Ahli | like testing their compiler ^^ |
| 23:51.09 | Ahli | vjustify should be vertical and that was already in the correct position :S |
