| 00:00.31 | DarkOrbis | ok |
| 00:00.46 | DarkOrbis | added the folder with the skins and models, etc. |
| 00:01.02 | DarkOrbis | but after i reloaded the model. still no textures |
| 00:01.32 | Vailreth | its looking fore a folder called Assets with a Subfolder called Textures with the model textures in there |
| 00:02.23 | DarkOrbis | so the textures need to be in the export folder inside an Assets folder in a Textures folder? |
| 00:02.48 | Vailreth | thats how it looks for them if i am not mistaken |
| 00:03.51 | Vailreth | but then i am not going to be doing any model moding until the art tools are released with patch 1.5 |
| 00:04.11 | DarkOrbis | still not working |
| 00:04.39 | Vailreth | last option is to point the user path to that textures folder |
| 00:05.01 | Vailreth | if it doesnt work then i have no clue |
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| 00:07.52 | Zanam | evenin all, are there any autocasted ally buffs that aren't medivac heal that i can check as a reference for the autocast settings? |
| 00:08.40 | Vailreth | not that i am aware of |
| 00:09.01 | Zanam | ive tried a ton of combinations, cant seem to get any of them to work |
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| 00:15.07 | flyingspatula | not really diggin dibalo 3 |
| 00:15.09 | flyingspatula | kinda boring |
| 00:16.03 | Vailreth | i still havent had a chance to get in |
| 00:16.29 | Zanam | its open beta this weekend vail |
| 00:16.35 | Vailreth | i know |
| 00:16.42 | Zanam | oh is there a queue or something? |
| 00:16.48 | Vailreth | but every time i have tried the servers have been full |
| 00:17.01 | flyingspatula | weird |
| 00:17.04 | flyingspatula | what error do u get |
| 00:17.09 | Zanam | i've been in since january or so, sadly the open beta content is no different than what is has been so... havent checked it out |
| 00:17.13 | Vailreth | the servers are busy |
| 00:17.23 | Ahli | I just got in first try |
| 00:17.26 | Ahli | on US |
| 00:20.58 | flyingspatula | beta took like 3 hours to beat |
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| 01:11.33 | Bounty | JademusSreg |
| 01:34.03 | Mexa | Catchy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZYHfpZYyS8&feature=player_detailpage#t=49s |
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| 03:25.00 | themusic | anyone here good with sound triggers? |
| 03:25.25 | themusic | my imported sounds are not playing during combat sounds, almost like its being stopped because there are too many sounds playing or something |
| 03:47.46 | Xapti | speaking of catchy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ5LpwO-An4 |
| 03:49.30 | Dustin | hi |
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| 04:06.40 | ckSynergy | whos the dialog expert here? |
| 04:07.08 | JademusSreg | Dialogs are simple. =D |
| 04:08.29 | ckSynergy | even custom dialog voting buttons? :P |
| 04:08.44 | JademusSreg | Sure. |
| 04:09.10 | ckSynergy | do you use layout files or script? |
| 04:09.39 | JademusSreg | That question doesn't quite make sense. |
| 04:09.51 | ckSynergy | alright, let me just put it this way |
| 04:10.08 | ckSynergy | I have a dialog, with several panels, and several groups of buttons inside those panels |
| 04:10.13 | JademusSreg | Theres UIShowCustomDialog (playergroup inPlayers, int inType, text inTitle, text inText, bool pause); and there are dialogs. |
| 04:10.28 | ckSynergy | the buttons use custom images. 1 for the background, 1 for the icon, and 1 as an "overlay" |
| 04:10.45 | ckSynergy | what do you think would be the best method to group and arrange these buttons |
| 04:10.48 | ckSynergy | so its the most flexible |
| 04:11.21 | ckSynergy | The way I have now is working, but its not as flexible as id like |
| 04:11.25 | JademusSreg | Why would you need 3 images per button? |
| 04:11.43 | ckSynergy | for an icon, a background, and an overlay |
| 04:11.49 | ckSynergy | :P |
| 04:11.59 | JademusSreg | Clarify. |
| 04:12.15 | JademusSreg | You have 3 separate dialog controls of image type and a button or what? |
| 04:12.17 | ckSynergy | ok, for example, my race selection buttons |
| 04:12.43 | ckSynergy | the background is the racial background normally seen in ladder during load |
| 04:12.57 | flyingspatula | what would u guys say is probably the most fun flying shooter map. can be a space shooter or on earth |
| 04:12.59 | ckSynergy | the overlay is the border for the racial icons |
| 04:13.07 | flyingspatula | shooter game* not map sry |
| 04:13.08 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 04:13.10 | flyingspatula | shooter GAME |
| 04:13.14 | ckSynergy | hold on |
| 04:13.17 | ckSynergy | easier if I copy paste |
| 04:13.32 | JademusSreg | ck, you can set button image properties directly, both base and hover. |
| 04:13.55 | JademusSreg | So the overlay sounds entirely unnecessary as a separate element. |
| 04:14.56 | JademusSreg | Of couse, the texture to be used on the button must be properly formatted. |
| 04:15.07 | ckSynergy | http://i.imgur.com/HOs21.jpg |
| 04:15.35 | ckSynergy | the overlay in that picture is the glowing border |
| 04:15.49 | ckSynergy | the background is the racial picture |
| 04:16.15 | ckSynergy | and I tried setting the button image, but its doesnt work right if the image type isnt "button" |
| 04:16.32 | JademusSreg | Border. |
| 04:16.49 | ckSynergy | erm |
| 04:16.50 | ckSynergy | yea |
| 04:16.53 | ckSynergy | border |
| 04:17.09 | ckSynergy | anyway |
| 04:17.15 | ckSynergy | buttons dont like non-border images |
| 04:17.52 | JademusSreg | That's for what photoshop is used. =D |
| 04:18.12 | ckSynergy | lol |
| 04:18.22 | ckSynergy | Id rather just use an image for my normal type images |
| 04:18.39 | ckSynergy | unless you want to take blizzards pre-made images and slice them into buttons for me |
| 04:18.46 | JademusSreg | Easy. |
| 04:18.49 | ckSynergy | -.- |
| 04:19.20 | ckSynergy | how? |
| 04:19.41 | JademusSreg | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/StarCraft%202/ButtonLayout.psd |
| 04:20.31 | ckSynergy | well thats nice |
| 04:20.47 | ckSynergy | now expain how you take a solid picture and turn it into a border type image :P |
| 04:21.12 | ckSynergy | nevermind. m00t point. This is off topic |
| 04:21.19 | JademusSreg | (Magic.) |
| 04:21.32 | ckSynergy | Im asking whats the best way to organize panels and buttons for a voting system |
| 04:21.58 | JademusSreg | Ah, a question of presentation? |
| 04:22.15 | ckSynergy | ermmm, no, not exactly |
| 04:22.26 | ckSynergy | hold on let me think how to word this... |
| 04:24.25 | ckSynergy | You have 5 panels: map, options, hero 1, hero 2, race, and alliance. Inside those panels you have 5 buttons each. hero 1 and hero 2 needs the same hover/click effects. |
| 04:24.42 | ckSynergy | How would you organize your variables/records |
| 04:25.03 | JademusSreg | Ah, data structures. |
| 04:25.15 | JademusSreg | Good things panels can be nested. |
| 04:25.16 | ckSynergy | yea, there we go |
| 04:25.19 | ckSynergy | yup |
| 04:25.25 | ckSynergy | but these panels arent nested |
| 04:25.47 | JademusSreg | I mean each button and their images should be inside panels as well. |
| 04:26.05 | ckSynergy | I've thought about that repeatedly |
| 04:26.44 | ckSynergy | it would help with effects I could apply, but doesnt really make panels flexible to a point of "define custom panel" like buttons can be done "define a button in panel" |
| 04:26.54 | JademusSreg | The code will look a lot cleaner. And you'll only need to store in variables those values that will be modified or referenced. |
| 04:27.51 | JademusSreg | Also, I'm curious where you intend to show who voted for what, if applicable. |
| 04:28.20 | ckSynergy | lol, well, theres also a label thats overlayed on the button |
| 04:28.48 | ckSynergy | some of the click effects also have an indicator |
| 04:28.49 | JademusSreg | The text property is also valid for buttons. |
| 04:29.11 | ckSynergy | and you position your text how exactly? |
| 04:29.31 | flyingspatula | ok theres GOT to be a way to move a units pitch and roll without it messing up movement. GRR |
| 04:30.31 | JademusSreg | Styles can define orientation, but I've not seen them work with labels, and have not tested such styles with button text. |
| 04:30.36 | JademusSreg | So it's an open question. |
| 04:31.22 | ckSynergy | Im pretty sure you cant position button text lol |
| 04:31.26 | ckSynergy | probably always center |
| 04:32.05 | JademusSreg | Untested assumptions are precarious. =D |
| 04:32.42 | ckSynergy | tell me the function that does it then :) |
| 04:33.26 | JademusSreg | Anyway, panels. Definitely panels. Unless you'll be modifying the images or referencing them, you won't need to retain those dialog controls in variables beyond the scope of the function handling their creation. |
| 04:33.51 | JademusSreg | Also, there are natives for apply style to text. You'd just need to define a custom stylr. |
| 04:34.12 | ckSynergy | style doesnt affec positioning |
| 04:36.43 | ckSynergy | and right now I really wish I had a decent computer so it didnt lag every time I switched to a different action definition .... grrr |
| 04:38.33 | JademusSreg | There sure are a lot of vjustify and hjustify attributes in the style XML that differ on the point. |
| 04:39.26 | JademusSreg | But like I said, I've not managed to make those properties work in labels, and have not tested if they work in buttons. |
| 04:39.51 | ckSynergy | shrugs |
| 04:41.34 | JademusSreg | More importantly, the data structure. |
| 04:41.47 | ckSynergy | hmm? |
| 04:42.45 | JademusSreg | I assume you've got plenty of GUI custom functions and actions in your work. |
| 04:43.06 | ckSynergy | yea lol |
| 04:43.48 | JademusSreg | Since galaxy doesn't support function or variable references currently, you'd need to just make some custom functions to return the relevant reference, which I expect would be the button itself. |
| 04:44.23 | ckSynergy | yup. thats how it works |
| 04:45.53 | JademusSreg | So the function would create the panel, button, images, maybe even create a trigger or register the button for a dialog control event, return the button, and allocate that button to whatever record/struct you'll need for referencing from the triggers later. |
| 04:46.24 | ckSynergy | thats pretty much what Im doing |
| 04:46.39 | JademusSreg | Then it sounds pretty much like it should. |
| 04:46.40 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 04:46.51 | ckSynergy | funnnnn |
| 04:47.03 | ckSynergy | sometime tells me it could be ...more flexible |
| 04:47.22 | JademusSreg | That is some hazardous thinking. =D |
| 04:47.50 | ckSynergy | lol |
| 04:47.57 | JademusSreg | I thought it would be more felxible to use data tables, in case I wanted to extend the button set to any arbitrary number in the future. |
| 04:47.59 | JademusSreg | I was wrong. |
| 04:48.23 | JademusSreg | All the boilerplate code involved in managing the data table shit made it dreadful to manage. |
| 04:48.26 | ckSynergy | I wouldnt go that far lol |
| 04:48.37 | ckSynergy | I bet lol |
| 04:49.16 | ckSynergy | do you have any pictures of your custom dialogs? |
| 04:49.30 | JademusSreg | Clarify. |
| 04:49.39 | ckSynergy | Do you have any examples of your work |
| 04:50.07 | JademusSreg | Sure. |
| 04:51.20 | JademusSreg | Photon Cycles, though the dialogs implemented in the public version are kind of ugly. Note to self: don't give players options ever again. |
| 04:51.51 | ckSynergy | ok, one second |
| 04:51.59 | JademusSreg | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/Images/AnchorBugs.jpg |
| 04:52.50 | JademusSreg | A demonstration of relative dialog anchor bugs created using dialogs. |
| 04:55.33 | JademusSreg | The column/row labels and correct relative positions were done in Photoshop, which took longer than the coding to generate diagram. |
| 04:55.34 | JademusSreg | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/StarCraft%202/Demos/AnchorBugDemo.SC2Map |
| 04:55.45 | JademusSreg | There's the source map. |
| 05:00.14 | ckSynergy | anchor bugs? |
| 05:00.20 | ckSynergy | looks correct to me |
| 05:00.30 | JademusSreg | Relative anchor bugs. |
| 05:00.46 | JademusSreg | Relative anchor bugs between dialog controls. |
| 05:01.11 | ckSynergy | wait nvm |
| 05:01.22 | ckSynergy | still, I havent had a problem with it |
| 05:01.30 | ckSynergy | butmines fairly simplistic |
| 05:01.59 | JademusSreg | Red where it appears incorrectly, blue where it should appear. |
| 05:02.30 | Dustin | Anyone want to help test my map? |
| 05:03.07 | ckSynergy | gotcha |
| 05:04.58 | ckSynergy | in photon wars, what options did you give players |
| 05:05.26 | JademusSreg | Haha, Photon Wars. |
| 05:05.31 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 05:05.37 | ckSynergy | sorry photon cycle |
| 05:05.39 | ckSynergy | and ok |
| 05:07.44 | JademusSreg | (While I'm away: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/Images/ForTheLoveOfCustomTextures.png ) |
| 05:07.59 | flyingspatula | nice |
| 05:08.15 | flyingspatula | jade now try to find a way to move a model on all axis for me! :( |
| 05:17.46 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 05:24.18 | ckSynergy | so whats the deal with the custom textures img |
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| 05:24.54 | Bounty | Hay Guyz |
| 05:25.56 | JademusSreg | Pew pew |
| 05:32.37 | Dustin | Woot |
| 05:32.38 | Dustin | sup |
| 05:32.43 | Dustin | 2 slots open for my map |
| 05:33.08 | JademusSreg | D3 while it's still open. |
| 05:33.11 | JademusSreg | pch00000 |
| 05:34.29 | Dustin | Psha, im gonna buy it when its out and ive already played the beta like 3 months ago :P |
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| 06:34.39 | themusic | my imported sounds arent playing during combat sounds, almost like there are too many sounds being played |
| 06:34.52 | themusic | anyone know why a sound wouldnt play (from a trigger)? |
| 06:37.03 | themusic | does it have to do with the sound "category" ... by default its set to category "voice" |
| 06:42.04 | Currydevil | noooo idea. |
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| 06:42.52 | themusic | argh |
| 07:08.28 | themusic | looks like it was the category.. and the other channel volumes |
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| 08:12.28 | flyingspatula | WHY BLIZZARD |
| 08:12.51 | flyingspatula | omg liek a whole week now i been trying to move pitch and roll of a unit/model while moving NOTHIN |
| 08:14.04 | themusic | sigh |
| 08:14.37 | themusic | flying, waht map are you working on |
| 08:15.02 | flyingspatula | just trying to make a 3d space shooter |
| 08:15.08 | flyingspatula | my only issue is model rotation thats it |
| 08:15.18 | flyingspatula | like |
| 08:15.25 | flyingspatula | u can do rolls and fly straight up |
| 08:15.27 | flyingspatula | and shit |
| 08:15.30 | flyingspatula | but ur just a sphere atm |
| 08:15.49 | flyingspatula | u can fly any direction but theres no way to roll and pitch a model |
| 08:15.54 | flyingspatula | that doesnt fuck shit up :( |
| 08:16.08 | themusic | hmm |
| 08:16.14 | themusic | havent ever tried that |
| 08:16.21 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 08:16.24 | flyingspatula | dont think any1 really has |
| 08:16.40 | themusic | probably why theres little support for it hah |
| 08:16.44 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 08:16.50 | themusic | guess you gotta mcguyver a workaround |
| 08:16.55 | flyingspatula | well ud think since missiles rotate on all 3 |
| 08:16.58 | flyingspatula | i cant see why i cant :( |
| 08:17.01 | flyingspatula | lol yeah seems that way |
| 08:17.32 | themusic | so the camera is attached to the actor? |
| 08:17.36 | flyingspatula | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:17.43 | flyingspatula | yeah the camera itself isnt an issue |
| 08:17.47 | flyingspatula | i have all tha ttaken care of |
| 08:17.49 | themusic | yea |
| 08:18.03 | flyingspatula | basically i have a 256x256 map |
| 08:18.07 | flyingspatula | and 256 max height |
| 08:18.16 | flyingspatula | u can move on all 3 of the axis |
| 08:18.33 | themusic | can you make your unit a missile? |
| 08:18.45 | flyingspatula | yeah thats sort of what i tried doing but |
| 08:19.08 | flyingspatula | only thing i could think of was to make an invis object move around and the missile which is the fighter follow guided whole time |
| 08:19.13 | flyingspatula | but never cooperates right |
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| 08:20.50 | flyingspatula | seems missiles and missile movers is stil la somewhat non explored feature |
| 08:21.57 | flyingspatula | like im sure Actor - Send actor message (SetRotation forwardX forwardY forwardZ upX upY upZ) to main actor of unit unit works on a missile moving |
| 08:22.08 | flyingspatula | but its harder to control everything on a misile |
| 08:29.32 | flyingspatula | yeah i don tunderstand if i make my unit a missile |
| 08:29.35 | flyingspatula | how to even control it lol |
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| 08:34.30 | Kueken | moarning |
| 08:34.44 | Mexa | hi |
| 08:41.18 | Dustin | Muahaha |
| 08:41.37 | Dustin | Up all night but this new addition is sick |
| 08:42.01 | Dustin | found a way to tie everything in the map together |
| 08:45.58 | Mexa | With needle and thread? |
| 08:46.05 | themusic | what map u makin dustin |
| 08:46.47 | Dustin | Turn Defense |
| 08:46.52 | Dustin | but im renaming it soon |
| 09:28.56 | flyingspatula | is there a way i can allow camera to endlessly rotate on angle of attack and not get stuck looking straight up or down? |
| 09:29.02 | flyingspatula | always wants to cap it |
| 09:29.10 | flyingspatula | at looking straight up or straigth down |
| 09:29.38 | flyingspatula | nvm im retarded |
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| 13:59.45 | Mexa | http://svtplay.se/v/2777327/dreamhack_open_stockholm it is on! |
| 14:00.19 | Mexa | Oh, apparantly abit more time til everything will start :> |
| 14:00.58 | equinox1911 | not usefull for anyone outside sweden without a sweden proxy though :( |
| 14:01.06 | equinox1911 | swedish proxy |
| 14:01.20 | Mexa | You can't access it? |
| 14:01.47 | equinox1911 | tells me to move to sweden ;) |
| 14:02.20 | Mexa | Sec |
| 14:03.29 | Mexa | What about here? http://svt.se/2.155459/live |
| 14:03.45 | equinox1911 | nope |
| 14:04.04 | Mexa | http://open.dreamhack.se/dreamhack-tv/ |
| 14:04.07 | Mexa | There |
| 14:04.12 | equinox1911 | but don't jump around about it , its not like i wanted to watch it ^^ |
| 14:04.36 | equinox1911 | yeah that one works , ty |
| 14:05.48 | Kueken | its hacking my dreams |
| 14:06.58 | Kueken | diashow :D |
| 14:07.25 | equinox1911 | do you have sound ? |
| 14:07.36 | Kueken | I have |
| 14:07.53 | Kueken | but its lagging pretty badly |
| 14:07.58 | equinox1911 | twitch is annoying me once more :( |
| 14:08.11 | equinox1911 | ye can'T even log on again |
| 14:08.21 | Mexa | try refresh or lower to 720p |
| 14:08.28 | Mexa | Should be smooth. |
| 14:08.46 | equinox1911 | its lagging in 480p |
| 14:08.48 | equinox1911 | lol |
| 14:08.49 | Kueken | I am at 720, my monitor doesn't support more anyway |
| 14:08.53 | Mexa | ah |
| 14:08.56 | equinox1911 | its NOT me ^^ |
| 14:09.12 | Kueken | just trying 240p still lag |
| 14:09.18 | equinox1911 | twitch is bad with +10k peeps |
| 14:09.40 | Kueken | looks pretty good for 240p though o_0 |
| 14:09.49 | Mexa | ;D |
| 14:10.08 | Mexa | Hm, might be the stream being choppy |
| 14:11.25 | Kueken | socke is like the combined mass of all the others on the stage :D |
| 14:19.52 | Ahli | can't raise the sound more... :X stream is not loud enough |
| 14:20.18 | Mexa | I'm sure it gets better once a match get started |
| 14:20.28 | equinox1911 | dammit this is boring |
| 14:20.48 | Mexa | ;D should I poke you when a match is starting? |
| 14:20.52 | equinox1911 | mexa u got some high hopes there ;) |
| 14:21.12 | equinox1911 | nah i just let it run in background |
| 14:21.15 | Mexa | Well, Dreamhack is known to have high quality livestreaming. |
| 14:21.40 | equinox1911 | disproving people on reddit :S |
| 14:21.46 | equinox1911 | for now |
| 14:22.04 | Ahli | match starts in 9 minutes |
| 14:23.45 | Mexa | See, the sound is louder already. |
| 14:25.59 | Mexa | 7½hours of matches, wuh. |
| 14:27.14 | Ahli | sjow is going to scout with a hellion as usual... |
| 14:27.45 | Mexa | :p |
| 14:31.28 | Ahli | polt is ahead by 0.25 seconds |
| 14:31.31 | Ahli | with mining |
| 14:32.04 | Mexa | You see that at once:P? |
| 14:32.27 | Mexa | Oh yeah, looking at the mineral count |
| 14:42.27 | Ahli | if the tanks at the tower would have been sieged before he could have held it in his main I guess |
| 14:42.28 | Mexa | That was quick |
| 14:42.52 | equinox1911 | mech suxx |
| 14:54.27 | Ahli | wow |
| 14:55.34 | equinox1911 | grab a cc |
| 14:55.35 | equinox1911 | ^^ |
| 15:03.21 | equinox1911 | what a loose with such a lead .. |
| 15:03.55 | Mexa | kicks his teacher in the nuts for giving Mexa a codebase with inefficient code and memory leaks |
| 15:04.01 | Mexa | -t.t |
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| 15:05.44 | Mexa | Haha yeah, strange weather, I agreed now when we occasionally seem to have an instable weather of spring combined with some snow :D |
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| 15:36.25 | Ahli | game starting |
| 15:36.57 | Mexa | ! |
| 15:53.59 | Ahli | so many stalkers |
| 16:02.03 | Scorp_ | how do I make a camera's eye smoothly follow a unit? |
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| 16:24.44 | Bounty | Hay Guyz |
| 16:26.06 | Mexa | Bounty, interested in esports? |
| 16:26.13 | Bounty | nope |
| 16:26.18 | Bounty | >< |
| 16:26.22 | Mexa | daaw |
| 16:26.42 | Mexa | But Dreamhack has 43k viewers right now :D |
| 16:27.12 | Bounty | Lots of people watch crappy TV shows to |
| 16:27.17 | Mexa | ;) |
| 16:27.17 | Bounty | :) |
| 16:27.32 | Mexa | How's PD ging? |
| 16:27.37 | Bounty | Not sure |
| 16:27.38 | Mexa | *going |
| 16:27.54 | Bounty | Expected a surge of players because of the weekend and it never happend |
| 16:28.09 | equinox1911 | who the hell thought putting the couch "circle" in the middle of the audience is a god idea? |
| 16:28.13 | Bounty | Even with all the stuff thats been added, not sure if its because of the D3 beta or not |
| 16:28.17 | Mexa | People are too busy playing D3 |
| 16:28.22 | Mexa | Probably |
| 16:28.25 | Mexa | and Dreamhack. |
| 16:28.25 | Bounty | Yeah thats what i was thinking |
| 16:28.34 | equinox1911 | the background id filled with people that seem unintrested since they look at the screen in front |
| 16:28.35 | Bounty | well alot of ppl do both |
| 16:28.42 | Bounty | Watch esports and play PD |
| 16:28.47 | Mexa | True |
| 16:28.58 | Scorp_ | <- |
| 16:28.59 | Bounty | I know this bc they are always talking about it in the channel lol |
| 16:29.04 | Mexa | As much as I I listen/watch on the esport while doing my lab assignment. |
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| 16:29.08 | Mexa | *-I |
| 16:29.15 | Bounty | I'm just debating on what to add next |
| 16:29.16 | MasterReY | hi |
| 16:29.32 | Bounty | People want a Character Editor but, if the map dies thats kinda pointless |
| 16:29.47 | MasterReY | one quick question: Is there a trigger to completely reset ALL tech (weapon/armor ups and active/passive abilities like storm/combat shields etc.) or other possibilities to do it without resetting evetry single upgrade individually? |
| 16:29.56 | Mexa | A character editor huh? Texture and model swapping and such? |
| 16:30.05 | Bounty | same models |
| 16:30.12 | Bounty | u can just unlock cosmetics for it |
| 16:30.13 | Bounty | and titles |
| 16:30.16 | Bounty | and you pick and choose |
| 16:30.26 | Bounty | unlike now, you dont have a choice in your graphic/title |
| 16:30.42 | Bounty | Rank 50's look like Rank 50's |
| 16:30.49 | Mexa | Ah, in that way |
| 16:31.15 | Bounty | But like i said, if the map dies... that would be a waste of time |
| 16:31.27 | Bounty | So i'm thinking about adding a third layout |
| 16:31.31 | Bounty | but making it HUGE |
| 16:31.41 | Mexa | equinox1911, missed that circe:P |
| 16:31.52 | equinox1911 | what ? |
| 16:32.09 | Mexa | the couch circle or whatever it was. |
| 16:32.17 | equinox1911 | ah |
| 16:32.21 | Bounty | How is PB doing on EU? Last i heard it was doing well |
| 16:32.39 | Mexa | yesterday it was on page 5, I think. |
| 16:32.49 | equinox1911 | such things infuriate me |
| 16:32.50 | Bounty | Nice |
| 16:33.03 | Mexa | Somewhat stable, I think. |
| 16:33.18 | Bounty | Yeah |
| 16:33.21 | Bounty | Either its going to die |
| 16:33.27 | Bounty | Or its going to be like Photon Cycles |
| 16:33.33 | Mexa | I'd be more interested in bookmarks, rather than hours though. If people like the map, they would most likely bookmark it, wouldn't they? |
| 16:33.47 | Bounty | 623 Bookmarks on US |
| 16:33.58 | Mexa | Yeah well, Photon Cycles is still stable on its page. |
| 16:34.13 | Mexa | And it's still on the feature list. as it has been for ages. |
| 16:34.17 | Bounty | Yeah thats what im saying, Photon Cycles isnt a "popular map" but it has a community |
| 16:34.22 | Bounty | Which keeps it stable |
| 16:34.38 | Mexa | m |
| 16:34.55 | Bounty | I think i need to do a new video |
| 16:35.01 | Bounty | So much shit has been added |
| 16:35.12 | Sevenix | anyone know what I can use to open blizzard .ui files? |
| 16:35.14 | Bounty | and EU is finally up to date |
| 16:35.28 | Bounty | atleast i think EU is up to date |
| 16:35.33 | Mexa | Sevenix, notepad, I suppose |
| 16:35.36 | Bounty | Did EU get Photon Ball mode yet? |
| 16:35.43 | Scorp_ | no |
| 16:35.47 | Sevenix | shows up as nothing Mexa =/ |
| 16:35.53 | Mexa | huhm? |
| 16:36.06 | Mexa | Bounty, no idea. |
| 16:36.16 | Mexa | Xaragoth is your publisher, is he not? |
| 16:36.19 | Bounty | Whenevre you get a chance can you check? + the hours |
| 16:36.20 | Bounty | yes |
| 16:36.50 | Mexa | Sevenix, did you try something like nopepad++? |
| 16:36.56 | Scorp_ | I can check it, bounty |
| 16:37.10 | Scorp_ | werent updated an hour ago though |
| 16:37.13 | Bounty | kk let me know if it has Photon Ball mode + the hours |
| 16:37.22 | Bounty | :) |
| 16:37.30 | Bounty | i sent it to him yesterday or the day before |
| 16:37.54 | Scorp_ | 240 bookmarks, 117 hours played |
| 16:38.11 | Bounty | load it up and see if it has Photon Ball mode |
| 16:38.19 | Bounty | under team modes |
| 16:38.33 | Xaragoth | didn't have time yet to update |
| 16:38.34 | Xaragoth | will do soonish |
| 16:38.44 | Sevenix | notepad++ only gives me NULNULNUL :P |
| 16:40.04 | Sevenix | actually, seems to work somwhat |
| 16:40.08 | Sevenix | still a lot of NUL.. |
| 16:41.13 | Ahli | one bookmark is mine |
| 16:41.14 | Bounty | <3 Xaragoth |
| 16:41.22 | Bounty | Are people on EU using the channel? |
| 16:41.39 | Bounty | I wish i could just check all this shit myself lol |
| 16:41.41 | Ahli | like 4 people use it, yes |
| 16:42.46 | Mexa | Sevenix, then it's in binary format, I think |
| 16:43.50 | Mexa | If there's characters that alren't text editor friendly, then it's most likely a binary file. |
| 16:44.14 | Sevenix | I just found stuff about converting .ui files to python. |
| 16:48.02 | Xaragoth | Bounty: update is up |
| 16:48.11 | Bounty | woo |
| 16:48.19 | Bounty | Hope ppl on EU like the new mode |
| 16:48.24 | Bounty | its the most popular on US |
| 16:49.25 | Scorp_ | I'll try it out in a bit |
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| 16:55.33 | Valen | sup |
| 17:05.38 | Dustin | hiii |
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| 17:19.22 | JademusSreg | PEw pew |
| 17:31.07 | Mexa | Jademus, how about some Dreamhack, or did you give up esports:P? |
| 17:32.27 | JademusSreg | I'm willing to watch it when I'm not too busy. But this is a very busy season for me. |
| 17:33.53 | JademusSreg | I still haven't forgiven Idra and MC for that awful match. |
| 17:34.08 | Mexa | :P |
| 17:34.17 | Mexa | I recall they aren't playing today |
| 17:34.37 | Mexa | http://open.dreamhack.se/dreamhack-tv/ awaiting the next match still. |
| 17:43.40 | Ahli | uhm, can't validators check for health percentages? :S |
| 17:44.31 | Ahli | or is that vitality? |
| 17:44.38 | JademusSreg | Quite. |
| 17:45.15 | Ahli | oh wait, I'm dumb. there is a field where I can chose part |
| 17:46.05 | equinox1911 | lol , i like the music better that the actual games |
| 17:48.19 | Ahli | What's better performance wise: behavior which is deactivated via validator by default and activates, if <50% life or a validator with periodic checks every 0.1 seconds with an effect that has the validator? |
| 17:49.08 | Ahli | I just made the second, but I just got the idea that I could have done that different |
| 17:58.20 | Scorp_ | First one is best performance wise, but theres no big difference as its done in the data editor |
| 17:58.59 | Ahli | what's the interval of the data stuff like persistents? 1/16th of game second? |
| 17:59.30 | Scorp_ | I think so |
| 17:59.53 | Scorp_ | most things run 1/16 |
| 18:12.57 | Dustin | Anyone wanna play my map? |
| 18:13.08 | JademusSreg | Sure Dustin. |
| 18:13.15 | JademusSreg | I can spare a few minutes. =D |
| 18:13.30 | Dustin | :D |
| 18:16.36 | Dustin | gettin on now |
| 18:16.40 | Dustin | Anyone else want to play? |
| 18:16.44 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 18:18.03 | JademusSreg | Try again, Dustin. |
| 18:18.11 | JademusSreg | Connection failed somehow. |
| 18:18.12 | Deaod | (excluding anyone from europe) |
| 18:18.33 | Dustin | I hate region locking so much |
| 18:18.40 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 18:19.31 | JademusSreg | Try again. I closed a process, os it may have helped. |
| 18:19.52 | JademusSreg | You took my greeeeen. |
| 18:20.13 | Dustin | hehe |
| 18:32.45 | JademusSreg | Got disconnected. |
| 18:32.56 | Dustin | lol ya |
| 18:32.57 | JademusSreg | Shitty connection is shitty. |
| 18:33.42 | JademusSreg | Anyway, I have plenty of feedback. I'll just take some time to type it. |
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| 18:38.12 | Bounty | How easy is it to add an attachment point to a model? |
| 18:38.30 | Bounty | F*cking Blizzard decided not to give Tassadar an attachment point for his left hand |
| 18:40.23 | JademusSreg | Starting with the interface, the buttons for toggle upgrade dialog, shop, donate, and such are arranged strangely. You ought to create a dialog anchored to the right side of the screen (I'll assume this is the case already), then create the first button anchored to the bottom of the dialog, and create subsequent buttons anchored relative to the previous buttons. As they are now, they are |
| 18:40.23 | JademusSreg | sprawled out over the right side with no apparent order. Alternately, you could position them above the unit info card area arranged left to right, so they are grouped more appropriate with the standard UI elements. Ditto for the banked experience progress bar. |
| 18:40.59 | Bounty | Have you tried the new Photon Ball mode for PD JademusSreg? :) |
| 18:41.04 | Bounty | You should whenever you get the chance |
| 18:41.08 | JademusSreg | kk |
| 18:41.14 | Bounty | Its all ppl are playing |
| 18:41.15 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:41.55 | Bounty | we have a lobby now if u wanna give it a shot JademusSreg |
| 18:42.00 | Bounty | its quick |
| 18:42.12 | JademusSreg | Next, the player's resource area. I notice from the minimap each player has one, but I can't tell why each player has their own area. From what I saw, there's nothing to build there. |
| 18:42.21 | JademusSreg | Bounty, I am doin' stuff. |
| 18:42.23 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 18:42.28 | JademusSreg | But I'll play sometime. |
| 18:42.30 | Bounty | aww cmon |
| 18:42.41 | Bounty | i wanna score a touchdown on ur ass |
| 18:43.18 | JademusSreg | Naw. I can't be all capricious and shit and drop what I'm doing; I must finish. |
| 18:43.23 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:43.25 | Bounty | kk |
| 18:44.56 | JademusSreg | I understand the function of the player resource area; it makes resource gathering less abstract, and the spatial dimensions gives allows for new possibilities in upgrades relative to, say, the automagical periodic resource gains featured in many other maps. |
| 18:45.11 | RipperRoo | hey is there a function btw |
| 18:45.16 | RipperRoo | that shwos me new tutorials? |
| 18:45.26 | RipperRoo | or do i have to learn everything and realize if there is a new one ? :S |
| 18:45.39 | JademusSreg | But if a player can't build there, I don't see why each player would need their own separate area. |
| 18:45.50 | JademusSreg | Wat Rip? |
| 18:45.56 | RipperRoo | mapster tutorials |
| 18:46.05 | RipperRoo | a filter for new tutorials |
| 18:46.12 | RipperRoo | or a date when the tutorial was set |
| 18:46.16 | RipperRoo | would be very good :S |
| 18:46.18 | JademusSreg | Look at the dates they were created? |
| 18:46.31 | RipperRoo | so i have to open every tutorial? |
| 18:47.39 | JademusSreg | With regards to upgrades, needing to select the unit to upgrade it is kind of odd, especially in the case of the resource harvesters, if their upgrades are global. It's an extra, meaningless step. |
| 18:48.08 | JademusSreg | brb |
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| 19:00.00 | Dustin | I didnt want to lump them all into the same area because It hought that would be confusing |
| 19:07.10 | JademusSreg | If you mean the resource harvesters, just make them not visible to other players. |
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| 19:12.23 | Zanam | anyone have modelling experience? i'm trying to do a simple model it but cant seem to get the texture to apply right |
| 19:57.19 | Vailreth | hello folks |
| 19:58.22 | Zanam | ello vail |
| 20:08.49 | UloseTheGame | hey vailreth |
| 20:08.54 | UloseTheGame | guess what I wrote up! |
| 20:09.04 | UloseTheGame | http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=330104 |
| 20:09.25 | UloseTheGame | Well I'm in the process of writing up a blogbook memoir of my adventures in SC2 |
| 20:10.34 | Vailreth | i see |
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| 20:17.27 | Vailreth | nice little write up there |
| 20:19.56 | UloseTheGame | :) thanks |
| 20:20.01 | UloseTheGame | there's a part 2 as well |
| 20:20.08 | UloseTheGame | and I'm part 3 as we speak |
| 20:20.18 | Vailreth | i see |
| 20:20.20 | UloseTheGame | So far I've detailed Rodrigo and Nexus Word Wars |
| 20:20.32 | UloseTheGame | now I'm going back and detailing my relationship with TheZizz |
| 20:21.32 | Vailreth | i think i have some one on ignore because i keep seeing half of converstations |
| 20:21.42 | Vailreth | halves of* |
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