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| 00:00.24 | JademusSreg | Hm. That looks correct. |
| 00:00.53 | JademusSreg | Care to debug that section of code, print some messages? |
| 00:01.08 | JademusSreg | I'm wondering if any of those values might be null. |
| 00:01.18 | Currydevil | ok |
| 00:01.27 | JademusSreg | Also, are you testing this in multiplayer? |
| 00:01.40 | Currydevil | well it sets them right, but as soon as I execute the 'hide' it goes away for me. |
| 00:01.52 | Currydevil | not yet, but the tag is disappearing for my units |
| 00:01.57 | Currydevil | when I set the hide for player 2 |
| 00:02.09 | Currydevil | Earlier, i set it to hide for enemy of triggering player |
| 00:02.17 | Currydevil | and it still didn't work |
| 00:03.31 | Currydevil | which values should i be checking for null? all of them? |
| 00:03.39 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 00:03.42 | Currydevil | ok |
| 00:03.49 | JademusSreg | Meanwhile, I'll do some research. |
| 00:06.29 | DarkOrbis | Vaer, arrow works well now |
| 00:07.24 | Zanam | my editor is haunted i swear |
| 00:07.46 | DarkOrbis | lol |
| 00:08.12 | Zanam | i just had a group of actions duplicate themselves |
| 00:08.22 | Zanam | while i was working on something completely different |
| 00:08.30 | Zanam | and when clicked they all say 'unknown function', and i couldnt save the map |
| 00:08.37 | Zanam | and just before that, my comments all got rearranged |
| 00:08.42 | DarkOrbis | trigger editor lag is normal, i get that shit too |
| 00:15.32 | DarkOrbis | what format does SC2 allow for music and sounds? |
| 00:16.02 | Currydevil | ok, so what I could debug is correct |
| 00:16.10 | JademusSreg | Orb, .ogg and others. |
| 00:16.26 | Currydevil | I couldn't find a quick way to debug the player grp for player 2 though |
| 00:16.38 | Currydevil | but since I set that one |
| 00:16.39 | DarkOrbis | ok thanks |
| 00:16.43 | Currydevil | It shouldn't be null |
| 00:16.44 | DarkOrbis | i was hoping for ogg |
| 00:17.04 | JademusSreg | Allocate it to a variable at the beginning of the function, Curry. |
| 00:17.21 | JademusSreg | Then check if its null, then if it has a count > 0. |
| 00:19.44 | Vaer | glad it works |
| 00:19.55 | Vaer | and it can use ogg, wav and mp3 |
| 00:20.06 | Xapti_ | I like the banner currydevil |
| 00:20.29 | Xapti_ | you can change the logo for it with texture swap i presume |
| 00:20.36 | Currydevil | probably |
| 00:20.43 | Currydevil | i'll have to see |
| 00:20.51 | Currydevil | but each player uyses the same race |
| 00:21.14 | Zanam | yay! map editor saves and loads from ze banks now. can finally finish that section off and get back to gameplay |
| 00:25.17 | Currydevil | ok, so for enemy player I get a -1 |
| 00:25.40 | Currydevil | well |
| 00:25.45 | Currydevil | nvm I think i set it wrong |
| 00:25.49 | JademusSreg | Null player. |
| 00:26.19 | Currydevil | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:26.21 | Currydevil | hmm |
| 00:26.29 | Currydevil | that's the first trigger action |
| 00:26.54 | Currydevil | will this not work outside of multiplayer? |
| 00:27.11 | JademusSreg | It absolutely would work. |
| 00:27.27 | JademusSreg | What's the event? |
| 00:27.38 | Currydevil | mouse click down |
| 00:28.26 | JademusSreg | Shouldn't be an issue. |
| 00:29.47 | Currydevil | I just don't see why it would hide the tag for everyone. I need to talk to flyingspatula, he got it working |
| 00:30.15 | JademusSreg | Strange. |
| 00:30.34 | Currydevil | unless it's bugging because my enemy player value is -1? |
| 00:30.50 | Currydevil | But when I set it to player 2 specifically... it shouldn't matter |
| 00:31.04 | JademusSreg | I'd need to see the code. Not sure what you're doing. |
| 00:31.14 | JademusSreg | Preferably the entire trigger, including events and conditions. |
| 00:31.19 | Currydevil | ok |
| 00:31.49 | Currydevil | http://pastebin.com/rBVTZjqq |
| 00:34.23 | Kueken | I am a huge fan of using local variables temporarily instead of using the same array call a couple of times ;) |
| 00:34.29 | Kueken | saves so much work |
| 00:35.05 | DarkOrbis | Jade, Do you know how I can have my damage effect link to the ability so when it damages a unit the unit will acquire the caster unit? |
| 00:35.08 | Currydevil | something wrong with my var? lol |
| 00:35.22 | Kueken | nothing wrong |
| 00:35.33 | Currydevil | I have a bunch of stuff i use cross trigger |
| 00:35.34 | Kueken | its just a convenience thing |
| 00:35.41 | Currydevil | and i have many locals to boot |
| 00:36.08 | Currydevil | but i see what you mean now |
| 00:36.11 | JademusSreg | Response, Orb. Flee and Acquire, for example. |
| 00:36.42 | Currydevil | but you're right, convinience |
| 00:36.48 | Currydevil | not going to change it now lol |
| 00:36.58 | DarkOrbis | i tried that, only flee worked |
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| 00:37.18 | JademusSreg | Better to allocate a value to a variable if it's called multiple times. |
| 00:37.25 | JademusSreg | Triggering Unit for instance. |
| 00:37.52 | Currydevil | Yes well... |
| 00:38.00 | Currydevil | I'll keep that in mind for my next map. |
| 00:38.23 | Currydevil | Or some time later when I don't mind changing each and every instance of triggering player ;) |
| 00:40.02 | Xapti_ | what do you mean kueken |
| 00:40.07 | JademusSreg | Curry, did you set the alliance states of the two players? |
| 00:40.33 | Kueken | ? |
| 00:40.54 | Currydevil | no, they are inherently enemies though yes? |
| 00:41.10 | Kueken | I was talking about CurryDevil's script, or what are you referring to? |
| 00:41.22 | Xapti_ | the local variables thing |
| 00:41.33 | Currydevil | he means |
| 00:41.34 | Xapti_ | you saying the same thing that jademus said? |
| 00:41.40 | Kueken | yes, basically |
| 00:41.59 | Currydevil | set a local var = to what the global is instead of poking through a record.member deal 20 times |
| 00:42.42 | DarkOrbis | :/ |
| 00:43.19 | Xapti_ | oh |
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| 00:43.47 | Currydevil | these text tags are rediculous. |
| 00:43.52 | Kueken | that doesn't mean, you should set all globals to locals before using them |
| 00:43.59 | Xapti_ | yeah |
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| 00:44.10 | Currydevil | well if they aren't a rediculous array call anyways |
| 00:44.15 | Currydevil | YAY FLYINGSPATULA! |
| 00:44.18 | Currydevil | I need youuuuu |
| 00:44.19 | Mexa | Jejjj... I woke up only after an hour :7 |
| 00:44.39 | Mexa | or maybe it was 2 hours or 3 |
| 00:44.44 | Mexa | still |
| 00:44.53 | Kueken | maybe it was 25? |
| 00:44.59 | Mexa | Oh nono |
| 00:45.02 | Xapti_ | I haven't hda poblems wit text tags when I used them |
| 00:45.17 | flyingspatula | sup curry? |
| 00:45.27 | Kueken | I did never use them, though the functions seem pretty straightforward |
| 00:45.29 | Currydevil | I need you to show me your trigger for those text tags. |
| 00:45.34 | Currydevil | I am having the same issue you had. |
| 00:45.35 | Xapti_ | well I guess I had one problem — i think it had to do with hiding the visibility of the tag when in fog of war or something. the setting in the tag didn;t seem towork |
| 00:45.38 | JademusSreg | Strange. |
| 00:45.39 | Mexa | Last time I said something here must have been around 3 hours ago. |
| 00:45.41 | flyingspatula | jade made it |
| 00:45.46 | flyingspatula | lemme open editor |
| 00:45.51 | Currydevil | yes well, we haven't gotten there yet. |
| 00:45.52 | Currydevil | Lol |
| 00:45.53 | Kueken | -.- |
| 00:46.10 | Mexa | Hey guys, I did find a semi-great sleeping pill |
| 00:46.18 | Kueken | goddamn, is there something out there which didn't have anything to do with Jade? |
| 00:46.19 | JademusSreg | Enemies of Curry. |
| 00:46.25 | Mexa | I'll put on NASL in the background :D |
| 00:46.27 | JademusSreg | Are both slots set to user? |
| 00:46.36 | Currydevil | yessir. |
| 00:46.41 | JademusSreg | That explains it. |
| 00:46.55 | DarkOrbis | grrr, stupid spell |
| 00:46.58 | Mexa | (not that find it boring. Rather, relaxing) |
| 00:47.01 | JademusSreg | The group is empty because the player slot isn't filled in single player. |
| 00:47.04 | Xapti_ | thinking about how to program map is a pretty good way to fall asleep in my opinion |
| 00:47.06 | Currydevil | so it won't work outside of multiplayer without a computer slot? |
| 00:47.11 | JademusSreg | Right. |
| 00:47.14 | Xapti_ | if you're sitting in bed |
| 00:47.30 | JademusSreg | Just set it to computer while testing. |
| 00:47.30 | Mexa | Well |
| 00:47.34 | Currydevil | but technically, this should work then in a multiplayer game |
| 00:47.39 | Currydevil | ok |
| 00:47.40 | Mexa | Xapti, then I'll never fall asleep:P |
| 00:47.53 | Kueken | xatpi: if I do that, I cannot fall asleep, but must open the editor to try what I thought about :/ |
| 00:48.01 | Mexa | All ideas which one never will remember will come if you don't try them out too.. |
| 00:48.02 | Xapti_ | yeha but you just deny yourself that |
| 00:48.04 | flyingspatula | this is what i did curry http://pastebin.com/DUe5rUMH |
| 00:48.17 | Mexa | Uhm I mean... |
| 00:48.27 | Mexa | Fuck it, I'm going back to bed. |
| 00:48.42 | Mexa | ~.~ Seeya! |
| 00:48.43 | Currydevil | ok |
| 00:48.47 | flyingspatula | that makes all players cept yourself have tag |
| 00:48.51 | flyingspatula | not sure what u want |
| 00:49.06 | Currydevil | well, in my case, I need to see my tag, and not player 2's |
| 00:49.10 | Currydevil | and vice versa |
| 00:49.18 | flyingspatula | ok |
| 00:49.44 | flyingspatula | atelast |
| 00:50.10 | flyingspatula | well if u did exactly wha ti did and changed the condition to tempPlayer != player TO tempPlayer == player should work but |
| 00:50.12 | Currydevil | hmm, with computer player, it still hid for me too. |
| 00:50.19 | flyingspatula | right |
| 00:50.21 | flyingspatula | well |
| 00:50.24 | flyingspatula | paste your |
| 00:50.32 | flyingspatula | create text tag |
| 00:50.38 | flyingspatula | the actual creation of the text |
| 00:50.49 | flyingspatula | you have it set to null? |
| 00:50.55 | Currydevil | http://pastebin.com/UtnDxLsU |
| 00:50.58 | flyingspatula | jade was 100% correct abou tit MUST be null |
| 00:51.07 | Currydevil | what be null? |
| 00:51.11 | flyingspatula | yes |
| 00:51.14 | flyingspatula | uh |
| 00:51.15 | flyingspatula | where u have |
| 00:51.26 | flyingspatula | All Players. instead click on the custom script and type null |
| 00:51.34 | flyingspatula | then manually add visibility |
| 00:51.51 | flyingspatula | why it does that i have no idea |
| 00:52.07 | flyingspatula | so set it to null, then attach, then add visibility |
| 00:52.10 | flyingspatula | to the player u want |
| 00:52.32 | flyingspatula | if thats wrong feel free to correct mejade. but i believe thats how it worked for me |
| 00:52.39 | flyingspatula | but ihavent been in editor for 4-5 days |
| 00:53.18 | Xapti_ | if you want it to display for 1 player, just create it for the 1 player |
| 00:53.31 | Vailreth | been on vacation Spatula? |
| 00:53.47 | Xapti_ | create text tag for player 1; create text tag for player 2 |
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| 00:55.21 | Currydevil | flying wanna test it with me in a moment? |
| 00:55.32 | JademusSreg | It's not created for that player, but yes, Xapti is correct; if you're only displaying it for the owning player, put that playergroup in the playergroup parameter. |
| 00:55.56 | Xapti_ | yeah but the action says "create for player x" |
| 00:56.09 | Xapti_ | even though it can be changed to visible for anyone else later |
| 00:57.04 | Xapti_ | That's probably why I assumed that the visiblity couldn't be changed before, and I never bothered to see that there was a change visiblity for player action |
| 00:57.11 | JademusSreg | Fair point. |
| 00:59.00 | flyingspatula | i can in like 5 mins vail |
| 00:59.09 | flyingspatula | installing something |
| 00:59.23 | flyingspatula | i see bountys map has still been ganing popularity |
| 00:59.24 | DarkOrbis | grrrr |
| 00:59.39 | DarkOrbis | acquire the damn attacker. grrrrrrrrrrrr |
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| 01:00.38 | flyingspatula | if i could come up with a map idea id start working on mine... but i cant |
| 01:01.06 | Vailreth | i see |
| 01:01.37 | flyingspatula | i could make sports game maps... but those arent really all that interesting |
| 01:01.38 | Vailreth | i still suggest a foot race between marines where they can kill each other and have mariokart style powerups and stuff |
| 01:01.46 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 01:02.42 | Kueken | to acquire an attacker, the unit must have the Behavior: Response field set to Acquire, the damage effect needs to trigger the Acquire response, the unit needs to have a weapon and the attack ability (move wouldn't be bad, either), and obviously, it needs to be able to see the attacker. |
| 01:02.48 | flyingspatula | to me racing in general is a flawed genre. not many can fix the ideal when one player is far behind theres no reason to keep playing and they quit |
| 01:03.23 | Vailreth | yeah |
| 01:03.41 | Kueken | try the Mario Kart approach :D |
| 01:03.53 | Kueken | last one gets better weapons, which usually target the first |
| 01:04.28 | Currydevil | you know, the funny thing abuot some of those (like the blue shell) is that it doesn't exactly help the last person, just knocks the first person out of first most of the time |
| 01:04.40 | Currydevil | unless it's lucky enough to hit other players inbetween |
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| 01:05.24 | Taintedwisp | What to do, What to do |
| 01:05.38 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 01:05.46 | flyingspatula | lol i started making a battlebots/robot arena with my tps that u could customize ur bots and fot in an arena... |
| 01:05.51 | flyingspatula | too much custom models required |
| 01:05.52 | flyingspatula | so i quit |
| 01:05.58 | Currydevil | lol |
| 01:07.03 | flyingspatula | and a mechwarrior/starsiege kinda map |
| 01:07.14 | flyingspatula | but all felt gimpy |
| 01:07.42 | flyingspatula | even tried rocket jockey |
| 01:09.00 | flyingspatula | and a game where every player has a castle and u have to defend your castle with towers and blockade shit while each player takes turns being a rolling baneling who tries to suicide into the enemy tower |
| 01:09.08 | flyingspatula | like uh |
| 01:09.14 | flyingspatula | stoneage or w.e the game was called |
| 01:19.17 | Mexa | http://www.ign.com/ipl Neat, they have overlayed teh ui ingame too! |
| 01:20.26 | DarkOrbis | i give up, no idea why my spell won't make the unit being damaged to acquire it's attacker, even when the flag is set |
| 01:31.29 | Repo | Updated wiki entry: Knowledge Base / Trinium Changelog - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/knowledge-base/trinium-changelog/ |
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| 01:34.39 | Repo | Updated wiki entry: Knowledge Base / Trinium Changelog - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/knowledge-base/trinium-changelog/ |
| 01:45.00 | Currydevil | 00:00:12.44 WARNING: [ 3 2] CActorModel[GameTokenMarshal] Model created via Cache; ModelLink[GameTokenMarshal]; Failure to initialize. yay |
| 01:46.38 | Currydevil | anyways, afk for a bit. I'll come back to this error later. |
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| 01:49.58 | flyingspatula | i bet if i made a dragonballz 3d fighting map every 12 yea rold would play it making it instantly page 1 |
| 01:53.32 | Xapti_ | yeah that sounds really cool flyingspatula, bt obviously lots of model issues |
| 01:54.13 | Xapti_ | yeah Mexa lots of people do those overlays now |
| 01:55.11 | Mexa | Aye, tho have only seen it on IPL and NASL so far, |
| 01:55.23 | Xapti_ | ESV weekly had it today |
| 01:55.29 | Xapti_ | Idra does it on his stream |
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| 01:55.35 | Xapti_ | as does probably every EG player |
| 01:56.03 | Xapti_ | I can't remember if Iron squid did i |
| 01:57.15 | Xapti_ | I like this UI |
| 01:57.50 | Xapti_ | amps custom made for tournaments could even have custom UI for observers too — they should have done this AGES ago |
| 01:57.59 | Xapti_ | due to the lack of stats that observer tab gives |
| 01:59.07 | Xapti_ | WTF STEPPES OF WAR is in the map choice? |
| 01:59.34 | Mexa | Hm could anyone do me a favor? Could anyone check when I pinged out/left the chat before? |
| 01:59.47 | Mexa | might have ben 3-5 hours ago |
| 01:59.52 | Mexa | *e |
| 02:00.24 | flyingspatula | hey if you converted a model from another game that had animations would those work in sc2 once converted to m3? |
| 02:00.47 | flyingspatula | well even if same model type... would |
| 02:00.57 | flyingspatula | animations from a model in one game transfer to sc2 |
| 02:01.08 | flyingspatula | would jus thave to rename them |
| 02:05.29 | Dustin | [6:51pm] * Mexa (504ed854@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.78.216.84) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 02:05.57 | Mexa | And at what timezone is that:P? |
| 02:06.07 | Mexa | Thanks btw. |
| 02:06.35 | Dustin | central |
| 02:06.46 | Mexa | 'central pacific time? |
| 02:06.50 | Dustin | yes |
| 02:06.54 | Dustin | wait |
| 02:06.55 | Dustin | what |
| 02:06.58 | Dustin | just central |
| 02:07.13 | Mexa | hrm' |
| 02:07.17 | Dustin | where are you |
| 02:07.31 | Mexa | Central standard time? |
| 02:07.33 | Dustin | yes |
| 02:07.51 | Mexa | Ah, Australian? |
| 02:08.13 | Mexa | never mind |
| 02:08.14 | Mexa | lol |
| 02:08.48 | Dustin | no :P |
| 02:08.54 | Mexa | I'm just too herpaderp now. You're in america ofc. |
| 02:08.54 | Dustin | I wish |
| 02:09.05 | Dustin | I was in australia |
| 02:09.18 | Mexa | :> |
| 02:10.09 | Mexa | Ah, Dustin |
| 02:10.13 | Mexa | When did I join? |
| 02:10.22 | Mexa | After pinging out. |
| 02:10.46 | Mexa | That's the last thing, then I'll bugger off elewhere. |
| 02:11.18 | Dustin | [7:44pm] |
| 02:11.48 | Mexa | ok, thanks |
| 02:16.22 | Vailreth | wooowhooo i have a working leaderboard |
| 02:18.28 | Vailreth | any one up for a test to see if it works multiplayer and test a few other things like lag and general speed? |
| 02:20.39 | Dustin | if youll help test mine |
| 02:20.56 | Vailreth | what region and whats the concept? |
| 02:21.16 | Dustin | NA |
| 02:21.35 | Dustin | Unit defense with AI base and shit |
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| 02:22.12 | Vailreth | what do you need tested exactly? |
| 02:23.00 | Dustin | make sure things work well |
| 02:23.29 | Vailreth | hm |
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| 02:42.23 | Thetubbygoat | HEY |
| 02:50.12 | Dustin | Do revived units have a bug where they cant equip a different weapon... |
| 02:55.03 | Dustin | Ya |
| 02:55.06 | Dustin | Definatley a bug |
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| 03:32.00 | Currydevil | 00:00:12.44 WARNING: [ 3 2] CActorModel[GameTokenMarshal] Model created via Cache; ModelLink[GameTokenMarshal]; Failure to initialize. |
| 03:32.12 | Currydevil | So, i'm not exactly sure how to fix that. |
| 03:32.26 | Currydevil | I followed a tut to the letter and that's what I get. |
| 03:32.38 | themusic | wtf is that error |
| 03:34.14 | Currydevil | I made a model to attach to my units |
| 03:34.17 | Currydevil | that's what I got. |
| 03:34.35 | Xapti_ | oh I found progammer |
| 03:34.46 | Xapti_ | he was under my nose all this time and I never realized it lol |
| 03:34.52 | Xapti_ | we're both playing Path of Exile |
| 03:35.04 | Xapti_ | I guess like Sixen too |
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| 03:43.52 | Zanam | map editor... almost... done..... must... .finish..... before sleep |
| 03:43.53 | Zanam | zzzzz |
| 03:45.41 | Currydevil | Anyone care for a test? Would like to see if I done good |
| 03:46.05 | themusic | sure |
| 03:46.09 | themusic | you on? |
| 03:47.33 | Xapti_ | u dun goodfed |
| 03:48.08 | Currydevil | yeah just a moment |
| 03:48.12 | Currydevil | got distracted |
| 03:48.46 | themusic | noobsuace |
| 03:49.26 | Xapti_ | man i couldn't stop myself from eating the other half of the pizza today |
| 03:49.43 | Xapti_ | last 3 days all Ive had for meals was fried rice or pizza that I made |
| 03:49.54 | Xapti_ | granted I like both so no issue |
| 03:52.19 | flyingspatula | the fuck http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs1CA5hFdd4 |
| 03:52.23 | Currydevil | currydevil.474 when you're ready |
| 04:07.52 | Xapti_ | yeah I like that flyingspatula, found it a few months ago |
| 04:09.45 | Mexa | flyingspatula, let me continue that by clicking a related video for you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpP5lh6Pl6c |
| 04:10.48 | flyingspatula | lawl |
| 04:12.20 | Mexa | Kind of remind me of this ._. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8ycKymifw0 |
| 04:13.15 | Mexa | Which is rather I don't even.. |
| 04:19.35 | flyingspatula | u know what i find sad and funny at the same time... people find it amusing and entertaining to watch shows that donate the money for the winners choice... so its like last quesiton... "Jimmy will get his new leg... ONLY if you get this question right" |
| 04:19.53 | flyingspatula | oh sry ur gonna die of cancer bc he lost |
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| 04:27.36 | Mexa | .-. |
| 04:28.36 | flyingspatula | what is the red targeting thing that some zerg defense building has |
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| 04:42.27 | Dustin | Anyone wanna help test my map? |
| 04:45.21 | JademusSreg | Strange how that happens when I'm busy. D= |
| 04:48.31 | MindWorX | DUSTIN |
| 04:48.36 | MindWorX | I SEE YOU BABY |
| 04:48.39 | MindWorX | SHAKING THAT ASS |
| 04:48.46 | MindWorX | runs away |
| 04:50.08 | Dustin | hi! |
| 04:50.15 | Dustin | I know right jade :P |
| 04:54.43 | flyingspatula | hey jade, is it possible to highlight a unit while left mouse i sbeing held down? |
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| 04:57.15 | Dustin | send actor message |
| 04:57.22 | Dustin | when boolean = true |
| 04:59.13 | flyingspatula | right but i was hoping i could use my highlight event. works fine unless left mouse is being held down |
| 05:18.40 | Currydevil | Heya Dustin, are you testing anything right now? |
| 05:30.09 | Currydevil | Hmm, i got my models to hide, but the death animation overrides the behavior |
| 05:31.52 | Xapti_ | you're sure it's while left mouse is held down and not potentially some other scenario? just making sure |
| 05:35.52 | flyingspatula | yeah seems to not work while mouse held even in a melee map. odd. |
| 05:36.10 | flyingspatula | i guess since technically ud hold ur mouse down anyway to click a unit or select one |
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| 05:42.28 | Xapti_ | damn anyone know how to test map when SC2 is opened before the editor? it's annoying |
| 05:42.48 | Currydevil | it's wierd |
| 05:42.58 | Xapti_ | huh? |
| 05:43.08 | Currydevil | i've been able to test if i log onto bnet from the open sc that the editor opened |
| 05:43.26 | Currydevil | so if you test, then quit that map and log onto bnet.. you can still test with sc open |
| 05:43.29 | Currydevil | and be on bnet |
| 05:43.39 | Xapti_ | yeah I know that much |
| 05:43.42 | Currydevil | or at least if you log out to the main screen |
| 05:43.47 | Xapti_ | yeah |
| 05:43.55 | Currydevil | otherwsie no -.- |
| 05:44.18 | Xapti_ | Maybe it's not possible since SC2.exe isn't run as a child process |
| 05:44.25 | Xapti_ | when it's run first |
| 05:44.43 | Xapti_ | What's also annoying is how long it takes to quit SC2 |
| 05:44.45 | Xapti_ | I don't know why |
| 05:44.53 | Xapti_ | so I just kill the process and it's instant |
| 05:45.16 | Xapti_ | ¯\_(:\ )_/¯ |
| 05:46.25 | Xapti_ | or maybe ¯\_('-')_/¯ |
| 05:46.34 | Currydevil | heh |
| 05:47.09 | Xapti_ | stha t'the first time I used my autohotkey script for that |
| 05:50.19 | Xapti_ | flyingspatula it works for me |
| 05:50.47 | Xapti_ | surprisingly I can hold down both left mouse and right mouse at the same time and both register too which is nice |
| 05:51.16 | Xapti_ | which I'm kinda surprized at because SC2 has an annoying issue where it won't recognize keyboard while mouse is clicked |
| 05:51.32 | Xapti_ | which is dumb because while it was an issue in starcraft 1, I beleive it was fxed in warcraft 3 |
| 05:51.40 | Xapti_ | but returns for SC2 |
| 05:52.17 | flyingspatula | weird why the hell |
| 05:52.22 | flyingspatula | why does highlight not work for me then |
| 05:52.26 | flyingspatula | with left mouse hm |
| 05:53.25 | Xapti_ | so it works when it's not held down, but doesn't work when it is held down? |
| 05:53.47 | flyingspatula | yeah |
| 05:53.56 | flyingspatula | like if i hold mouse down left, then cursor over a unit |
| 05:54.06 | flyingspatula | the highlight even doesnt workl |
| 05:55.08 | Xapti_ | Just a shot in the dark, but maybe it has something to do wwiwth hiding the selection box, something I presume you're doing (something I'm not doing) |
| 05:55.33 | Xapti_ | or better yet, something to do with a trigger while left mouse is held down (again something I don't have) |
| 05:56.04 | Xapti_ | which is much more likely |
| 05:57.49 | flyingspatula | well i just made an empty map with just the event |
| 05:57.51 | flyingspatula | to detect |
| 05:57.54 | flyingspatula | so weird |
| 05:58.19 | Xapti_ | gotta be something going on |
| 05:58.54 | Xapti_ | like your highlight works if the mouse button isn't held down? I know this is like the 3rd time I've asked |
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| 06:27.40 | Currydevil | Why why why does my model attachment fail me so! |
| 06:28.43 | Xapti_ | hmm sc2 isn't run as a child process from the editor so that isn't it |
| 06:30.08 | JademusSreg | Curry, have you seen the xel'naga boss demo? I used model attachments in that map, if you need a reference. |
| 06:30.24 | Currydevil | Ok, i'll take a look if this doesn't work out for me. |
| 06:30.24 | JademusSreg | Or is it just this particular one you're having trouble with, but have done it before? |
| 06:30.32 | Currydevil | I keep noticing different things that might fix it. |
| 06:30.39 | JademusSreg | kk |
| 06:30.53 | Currydevil | Well, I haven't done it before now, but I follow part of prozaioc's intro to attachments. |
| 06:31.02 | Currydevil | I have that part set up just like his. |
| 06:31.09 | Currydevil | prozaic* |
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| 06:36.07 | Currydevil | Where can i find this boss demo? |
| 06:37.52 | JademusSreg | Which irc client are you using? |
| 06:38.45 | Currydevil | mirc |
| 06:39.06 | JademusSreg | Alright. Then you should see the Query I sent. |
| 06:39.15 | Currydevil | Aye, got it. |
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| 06:55.51 | MindWorX | JademusSreg ROCKS! WOOO! |
| 06:56.11 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 06:59.37 | Currydevil | Not sure if it will help me. The models you use as modeladditions look the way I have mine setup =( |
| 07:00.31 | JademusSreg | Were that the case, I expect yours would be working. =D |
| 07:00.39 | Currydevil | Well of course. |
| 07:00.45 | JademusSreg | IF you don't see any obvious differences, switch to XML view. |
| 07:00.56 | JademusSreg | Look for differences. |
| 07:01.12 | Currydevil | The differences I noticed were in the events |
| 07:01.18 | JademusSreg | It's often easier to see smaller details in XML one might otherwise overlook. |
| 07:01.20 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 07:01.26 | Currydevil | I'm using unitbirth -> create and you're not |
| 07:03.54 | Currydevil | oh hey |
| 07:03.59 | Currydevil | it seems to be working now. |
| 07:04.09 | Currydevil | at least, the models are showing up in the editor. |
| 07:05.30 | Currydevil | Hmm, it also seems that they are inheriting the cloak/bury and I set inheritance to none, and unchecked cloak in property transfer |
| 07:05.45 | Mexa | Yawn |
| 07:05.50 | Mexa | mornin' |
| 07:17.47 | Currydevil | Oh bugger. |
| 07:18.09 | Currydevil | How do I tell it not to move with the hosts idle movements? |
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| 07:20.33 | JademusSreg | Depends on where it's attached, whether or not it inherits rotation, and of course removing idle movements is helpful. |
| 07:20.35 | JademusSreg | HAha |
| 07:20.41 | Currydevil | of course. |
| 07:20.50 | Currydevil | well I think i attached it to center for the moment |
| 07:20.53 | Currydevil | I will try origin |
| 07:21.32 | Currydevil | oh much better |
| 07:25.10 | Currydevil | http://i.imgur.com/lJCoJ.jpg So, that's what I have. Except I shouldn't be able to see my model |
| 07:25.43 | Currydevil | I should, however, be able to see the models on the 2 hidden marshals in the middle of the map lol |
| 07:27.16 | JademusSreg | Nice use of flags. I wonder if they have decal slots. |
| 07:27.55 | Currydevil | Would be cool if they do |
| 07:32.06 | Currydevil | Ok, so they are partially working now. I just need to get them to show up for the enemy player |
| 07:33.32 | Currydevil | Ok, the filter: ally, self appears to be working. |
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| 07:53.09 | Xapti | how do I configure panels/laypout? I didn't see anything in the data editor |
| 07:53.27 | JademusSreg | XML files. |
| 07:54.23 | JademusSreg | Helral's tutorial: http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/20323-ui-sc2layout-files-override-method-aiurchef-method/ |
| 07:55.37 | Xapti | I wasn't planning on doing anything except "<AcceptsMouse val="false"/> " but I guess that's still only doable in XML files |
| 07:56.41 | Currydevil | I don't like property transfers or inheritance. |
| 07:56.48 | Currydevil | it makes this frustrating lol. |
| 07:56.50 | Xapti | I guess it's documented somewhere the values XML objects can have? |
| 07:57.13 | Xapti | cause I would wonder where the person that said that figured it out http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/triggers/25838-mouse-move-over-console/?post=3 |
| 07:58.03 | Xapti | currydevil what are the banners being used for? |
| 07:58.12 | Currydevil | the facade unit |
| 07:58.23 | Xapti | you're using attachment for that? |
| 07:58.28 | Currydevil | but they are not cooperating. yes |
| 07:58.35 | Xapti | wouldn't it make more sense just to use morph or trigger replace? |
| 07:58.42 | Currydevil | uh no? |
| 07:58.59 | Currydevil | the banners are acting as a front for the enemy player |
| 07:59.01 | Xapti | why not? i'm not familiar with stratego so maybe it has to do with that |
| 07:59.13 | Currydevil | the owner still needs to be able to see his units. |
| 07:59.26 | Xapti | oh yeah of course :P |
| 07:59.33 | Currydevil | hence why i'm trying to make the banners hidden for owner and visible for enemy |
| 07:59.49 | Xapti | yeah |
| 07:59.52 | Currydevil | but they seem to be inheriting the cloak/bury from the behavior i have on the host unit |
| 08:00.09 | Currydevil | even though I have turned off all inheriting of cloak and property transfer |
| 08:00.12 | Xapti | I wanted to do something like that once, but it was too much work to bother with and ended up just using text tags |
| 08:00.39 | Xapti | (if you didn't kno wyou can put images sin text tags, which can also have alpha channel) |
| 08:01.02 | Currydevil | I don't want images in text tags. I want a model for it. |
| 08:01.04 | Xapti | but you probaby wouldn't want to use text tags for your application, wouldn't look nice |
| 08:01.05 | Xapti | yeah |
| 08:01.23 | Xapti | Iw ould use model too |
| 08:01.42 | Currydevil | I just need to figure out why they are inheriting the cloak when i told them not to =( |
| 08:02.45 | Xapti | is it possible to make cloaked units look regular/uncloaked to the main player (or even if detected by an enemy)? I would sorta think so |
| 08:03.04 | Currydevil | yeah |
| 08:03.18 | Currydevil | you put a behvaior on them that cloaks them and also check the 'bury' flag |
| 08:03.22 | Currydevil | behavior* |
| 08:03.23 | Xapti | so maybe do that if you're having too much trouble with attachments? |
| 08:03.37 | Currydevil | that's the problem, the attachment is cloaking/burying too |
| 08:03.50 | Xapti | no but i'm saying INSTEAD of attachment |
| 08:04.01 | Currydevil | i'm using both |
| 08:04.50 | Xapti | you just cloak the unit and have the banner a separate unit. when reveald, have the unit uncloak and remove or cloak/hide the banner |
| 08:06.42 | Xapti | where's the bury flag? |
| 08:06.52 | Currydevil | behavior, modification |
| 08:08.22 | Xapti | I still don't see it |
| 08:09.23 | Currydevil | Behavior: modification -> behavior -> state flags |
| 08:10.06 | Xapti | ooh |
| 08:10.32 | Xapti | yeah I should have looked under behaviorss lol |
| 08:11.01 | Currydevil | lol |
| 08:11.05 | Xapti | but I wa thinking it was something that could be controlled individually but that doesn't make much sense |
| 08:14.50 | Xapti | bury didn't do anything. aren't state flags just links to trigger the behavior? |
| 08:15.33 | Currydevil | the bury removes the blur from the cloak effect |
| 08:15.40 | Currydevil | so it mimics a hidden uni |
| 08:15.43 | Currydevil | unit* |
| 08:17.31 | Xapti | oh that's not what i'm saying though |
| 08:18.02 | Xapti | I'm saying to make the unit look like it wasn't cloaked at all to the player controlling it (or to players who've detected it) |
| 08:18.26 | Xapti | not so that it looks completely invisible |
| 08:18.47 | Xapti | but bury is a weird name, is it a typo on blurry? |
| 08:18.53 | JademusSreg | Bury. |
| 08:18.56 | JademusSreg | Unit flag. |
| 08:18.59 | JademusSreg | OR rather |
| 08:19.01 | JademusSreg | Buried |
| 08:19.06 | Currydevil | no, the unit looks just fine to the owner |
| 08:19.07 | JademusSreg | It cloaks without changing opacity. |
| 08:19.30 | Currydevil | to the enemy, it is completely invisible as if you set it to hide unit. |
| 08:19.49 | Xapti | yes but to the player controling the unit, it still looks cyan colored |
| 08:19.56 | Currydevil | no it doesn't |
| 08:19.57 | JademusSreg | Not Buried. |
| 08:20.16 | Xapti | so burried removes that? |
| 08:20.20 | Currydevil | in my screen shot, all the units have the buff to cloak/bury |
| 08:20.38 | JademusSreg | Buried units don't change opacity, or ripple, or any such. Just plain ol' invisible to enemy players. |
| 08:20.58 | Xapti | burried is the unit flag currydevil |
| 08:21.11 | Currydevil | There is a State Flag called Bury |
| 08:21.14 | Currydevil | on the buff. |
| 08:21.52 | Xapti | yeah |
| 08:22.24 | Xapti | I guess you'd use that if you're not usnig permacloak for anything else (or make a duplicate), and are doing it to lots of units |
| 08:22.42 | Currydevil | The cloak hides the unit model, the bury removes the ripple/opacity |
| 08:22.46 | Xapti | because otherwise you could just enable both the burried flat and the cloaked flag for all the applicable units— that's what I would do |
| 08:23.11 | Xapti | instead of making cloaked bother burried and cloaked |
| 08:23.31 | Currydevil | For the buff, you need both for the effect it gives. |
| 08:24.19 | Mexa | Jademus, why are you still awake? |
| 08:24.25 | Mexa | (I assume) |
| 08:24.39 | JademusSreg | Yep. |
| 08:25.14 | Mexa | You'll have to explain yourself over my breakfast! |
| 08:25.36 | JademusSreg | What an awkward place to stand. |
| 08:25.52 | Xapti | you're saying you need to apply bury to the state flag of cloaked behavior? I don't see that being necessary |
| 08:26.14 | Currydevil | Because. Cloaked you can see the ripple/blur of the cloaked unit. |
| 08:26.15 | Mexa | :p |
| 08:26.22 | Xapti | I was saying you could just apply both cloaked and burried flag |
| 08:26.24 | Currydevil | Bury removes that. |
| 08:26.30 | Mexa | Not literally of course. |
| 08:26.45 | Xapti | yeah I'm just saying you could apply both cloak and burried unit flags |
| 08:26.54 | Xapti | instead of editing the cloaked behavior |
| 08:28.17 | Xapti | it's not too hard to apply to multiple units either if you select them all at once |
| 08:28.42 | Xapti | but anyway, so if you can get units to display to the local player that way, why bother dealing with attchments? |
| 08:28.49 | Currydevil | what does it matter how I did it though? |
| 08:28.57 | Xapti | just cloak the units and replace them with banners |
| 08:29.20 | Currydevil | because the banner has to move with unit. |
| 08:29.29 | Xapti | (well place banners ontop of them. They could even be cloaked banners owned by the other player) |
| 08:30.08 | Xapti | well I guess that's a reasonable reason, but you could use triggers to follow pretty closely |
| 08:31.10 | Xapti | aside from a preiodic trigger moving the unit instantly to the units position, you could also give banners movement speed and whever the unit is ordered, order the banner to the same location |
| 08:31.19 | Xapti | *you could instead |
| 08:32.55 | Xapti | you know the two options I'm saying? |
| 08:33.40 | Xapti | attachment is ncie, and you're probably pretty close to get it working, but if you're stuck it's something to maybe consider |
| 08:33.57 | Currydevil | mhm |
| 08:35.45 | Xapti | I din't know about that burried/cloaked thing though, that's cool |
| 08:36.29 | Xapti | or at least simple. I was thinking one would htave o change the visual effect bemodifier of the cloaked behavior or something |
| 08:40.19 | Currydevil | going to bed, i'll figure it out later. |
| 08:53.18 | JademusSreg | Sleep time. |
| 08:54.23 | Mexa | Seya |
| 08:54.26 | Mexa | *e |
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| 09:50.02 | Mexa | Oh rats, I lost a valuable map project ._. |
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| 12:52.13 | ReY | hi |
| 12:53.43 | MasterReY | one quick question: Is there a trigger to completely reset ALL tech (weapon/armor ups and active/passive abilities like storm/combat shields etc.)?? |
| 12:55.16 | MasterReY | or other possibilities to do it? |
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| 13:16.18 | MasterReY | one quick question: Is there a trigger to completely reset ALL tech (weapon/armor ups and active/passive abilities like storm/combat shields etc.) or other possibilities to do it? |
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| 16:28.07 | Kueken | I agree |
| 16:31.44 | Xaragoth | Yes, quite. |
| 16:31.49 | Xaragoth | Painfully and with fire and burning and torment. |
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| 17:04.47 | Ashamed | >< Bored |
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| 17:24.46 | Dustin | Anyone want to test my map? |
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| 17:30.31 | Dustin | sixen |
| 17:30.35 | Dustin | You busy bud? |
| 17:30.58 | egod | so dustin |
| 17:31.02 | egod | you worked on your map? |
| 17:31.24 | egod | i tryed last week |
| 17:31.31 | Dustin | Ya |
| 17:31.39 | egod | anything new? |
| 17:31.48 | Dustin | Added some new guns and upgrades, fixed some bugs, added revive system and tweaked some balance |
| 17:31.58 | egod | you change the UI? |
| 17:32.01 | Dustin | Not yet |
| 17:32.06 | egod | k |
| 17:32.07 | Dustin | Waiting till HOTS probably |
| 17:32.18 | Dustin | To much work to just scrap in a couple months anyway |
| 17:32.27 | Dustin | I might do some minor changes |
| 17:47.30 | Dustin | egod |
| 17:47.41 | Dustin | You wanna test my map? |
| 17:47.46 | Dustin | I wanna try to get 4 players |
| 17:52.25 | Ashamed | 4 ninjaz |
| 18:00.43 | JademusSreg | Pew pew. |
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| 18:07.51 | Ashamed | poo poo |
| 18:08.02 | Ashamed | http://i.imgur.com/vluyk.gif |
| 18:09.22 | JademusSreg | saves it as Evolution - One Big Family. |
| 18:10.19 | Ashamed | one big family -.- |
| 18:10.24 | Ashamed | wish it was a bit bigger |
| 18:10.29 | Ahli | incest |
| 18:11.25 | Ashamed | i know i think of that all the time.. its crazy to think if you are here and alive that your blood line has been evolving and on this planet for 100 of millions of years |
| 18:11.37 | JademusSreg | Incestuous relationships confer fitness benefits in small populations with high selection pressure. |
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| 18:15.37 | Ashamed | people freaking out about this stupid tupac hologram |
| 18:15.50 | Ashamed | and i bet it isn't anything amazing at all |
| 18:15.52 | JademusSreg | bbl |
| 18:15.58 | Ashamed | just some invisable screen that they couldn't see |
| 18:16.03 | Dustin | Its not |
| 18:16.06 | Dustin | I saw how it worked |
| 18:16.12 | Ashamed | is it some invis screen huh |
| 18:16.15 | Ashamed | not a hologram |
| 18:16.45 | Dustin | Basically a Projector pointed down ad a reflective surface that bounced the image onto a transparent foil screen setup at a 45 degree angle away from the audience |
| 18:16.49 | Dustin | Its a holigram |
| 18:16.54 | Dustin | That's how they work |
| 18:17.17 | Ahli | then u can do something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DTXO7KGHtjI#at=67 |
| 18:17.26 | Ashamed | Well, as it turns out, the Tupac 2012 performance was not a hologram at all, but rather an advanced CGI technology called Pepper’s Ghost. First demonstrated by John Henry |
| 18:17.33 | Ahli | so basically you can place people behind the "stage" |
| 18:17.39 | JademusSreg | (It's the same way Dragon's Lair worked.) |
| 18:17.46 | egod | not now, im busy |
| 18:17.51 | Dustin | lol |
| 18:18.18 | Ashamed | jademus thats what i thought |
| 18:18.22 | Ashamed | i knew it too |
| 18:18.25 | Ashamed | people are soo stupid |
| 18:18.31 | JademusSreg | (And Hatsune Miku.) |
| 18:18.35 | Dustin | http://i.imgur.com/hc5ln.jpg |
| 18:18.38 | Ashamed | omg it was a real fucking hologram dancing with snoopdog |
| 18:19.12 | JademusSreg | (bbl++) |
| 18:19.35 | Ashamed | i use to have this startrek toy that did that >< |
| 18:19.41 | Ashamed | it was the transporter |
| 18:19.53 | Ashamed | and you would switch a nob and it would make all the guys disapear |
| 18:20.07 | Vailreth | http://www.gizmag.com/burton-true-3d-laser-plasma-display/20499/ |
| 18:24.21 | Ashamed | vail only problem with that one is it produces polution lol |
| 18:24.36 | Vailreth | how does it do that? |
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| 18:27.42 | Vailreth | nice fusion power may become a reality sometime in the near future |
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| 19:01.11 | Zanam | necromancy succesful |
| 19:12.26 | Vailreth | spooon |
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| 19:17.58 | Zanam | does anyone know if any patches disabled the minimap template for dialogs? i'm getting an error when trying to create it |
| 19:18.46 | Vailreth | what are you trying to do? |
| 19:19.38 | Zanam | i have a dialog-based UI, trying to get the minimap into a dialog. tutorial from mapster says it's |
| 19:19.46 | Zanam | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:20.27 | Zanam | but that was from 2010 |
| 19:20.35 | Vailreth | i think they disabled that feature |
| 19:20.37 | Zanam | it's giving an error "template is not of type CImage" |
| 19:20.43 | Vailreth | or exploit or what ever |
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| 19:22.01 | Zanam | guess i'll have to custom write that too |
| 19:22.50 | Vailreth | if you dont mind for what purpose are you trying to get the minimap into a dialog? |
| 19:23.57 | Zanam | well i'd like a minimap, but i've disabled the entire UI and create my own through dialogs |
| 19:24.06 | Zanam | to give more realty to gameplay |
| 19:25.04 | Vailreth | the best that i think you are going to be able to do so is move it with a SC2Layout file and then show and hide it with triggers on demand |
| 19:25.15 | Zanam | well that would work |
| 19:27.07 | Zanam | huh... didnt even know about the layout files |
| 19:27.25 | Zanam | thats a much easier solution |
| 19:28.53 | Ashamed | back to work... |
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| 19:30.41 | Vailreth | yes layout files are pretty useful |
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| 19:34.41 | Vailreth | but for some they are a pain to use |
| 19:36.19 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 19:36.27 | Vailreth | welcome back |
| 19:37.24 | JademusSreg | What's up? |
| 19:37.47 | Vailreth | oh just sitting here NOT adding the Round system to my map |
| 19:38.23 | JademusSreg | Cool. Keep up the great not-work. |
| 19:38.36 | Vailreth | thanks |
| 19:38.49 | Vailreth | i spent two hours today doing yardwork though |
| 19:39.18 | Zanam | i know xml fairly well, and that 5 minutes of reading the layout tutorial was all i needed. now the menu/help stuff wont be hidden either, much better option |
| 19:39.21 | Zanam | thanks vail! |
| 19:39.50 | Vailreth | eh i just pointed you in the right direction but welcome |
| 19:40.02 | Zanam | still saved me time and energy |
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| 19:47.44 | Repo | New map: Zerg Infestation (Survival) - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/zerg-infestation-survival/ |
| 19:50.08 | Ashamed | gay |
| 19:50.14 | JademusSreg | <3 |
| 19:55.06 | Ashamed | or did he |
| 20:01.53 | Ashamed | -.- uber virus killer. lady was talking to me about a virus and i was like its a rootkit and she was like but i have a call in the next 15 minutes. and i was like thats no problem -.- |
| 20:20.24 | Zanam | alright, have an question, getting confused. http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/wall-models-3-types/ I took these walls, extracting their textures, replaced them all with solid white, so they take on tinting better. About 60% of the time I load the map, this works fine for the entire duration. 40% of the time, they load a dark grey and will not tint at all. |
| 20:20.27 | Zanam | brb |
| 20:29.09 | Zanam | think i got it... didnt save transparencies |
| 20:32.54 | Zanam | nope, bleh |
| 20:35.30 | Zanam | suppose i need to just edit this model then |
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| 20:39.54 | Zanam | unless i kind soul who can edit models can do the simplest request ever for me :D |
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| 20:52.00 | Currydevil | Thank you Kueken!!! |
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| 20:58.19 | Kueken | np |
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| 20:59.53 | Ashamed | meeting time! |
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| 21:02.27 | Ahli | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4WDfEcn0xc&feature=player_embedded#at=546 |
| 21:03.31 | Repo | Updated wiki entry: Knowledge Base / Trinium Changelog - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/knowledge-base/trinium-changelog/ |
| 21:17.47 | Zanam | having trouble with some math if anyones bored and wants a challenge |
| 21:18.07 | Vailreth | dont look yo me im bad at maths |
| 21:18.19 | Zanam | well not necessarily math |
| 21:18.23 | Zanam | more like logic |
| 21:20.20 | Kueken | go on |
| 21:22.07 | Zanam | there is a table, 50x50 elements. each has an integer value from 0-9. the task is to find rectangular groups within the table, for efficiency |
| 21:23.23 | Zanam | i've finished my map editor, but am interested in doing a 'preview' during map selection so you can see what it looks like. i had thought of doing pixel by pixel images in a dialog, turns out the game doesnt like that |
| 21:23.48 | Zanam | so if i can stretch images to fill rectangular spaces, it would reduce the total amount on screen |
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| 21:29.59 | Zanam | think i might have just figured out a way to reduce the total amount anyway |
| 21:30.15 | Zanam | wouldnt look as good, but it's something more my level |
| 21:30.54 | Xapti | oh man I am entertained too easily |
| 21:31.25 | Xapti | afI set a velocity for a text tag and practically pissed myself watching it in action |
| 21:31.44 | Currydevil | heh |
| 21:31.58 | Vailreth | im lost |
| 21:32.07 | Vailreth | what did it do? |
| 21:32.36 | Xapti | it just moved around like you would expect it too |
| 21:33.25 | Xapti | kinda reminds me of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBgGuGGCxjc |
| 21:33.26 | Kueken | so, Zanam, your 50x50 elements are squares on a map, which are interchangeable |
| 21:33.37 | Kueken | with 10 different square variations |
| 21:33.51 | Kueken | and you want to show that as a preview in a dialog |
| 21:34.07 | Zanam | right. in terms of reality, they are pixels, with a max color palette of 10 colors |
| 21:34.22 | Kueken | okay |
| 21:34.52 | Kueken | and 50x50 images in a dialog, which you color in the different colors doesn't work |
| 21:35.50 | Zanam | thats 2500 images, slows it down to about 40fps on my pretty decent desktop. max size of 80x80, 6400 images, burns it down to about 20 fps |
| 21:36.16 | Zanam | im testing hiding all non-painted elements |
| 21:36.37 | Currydevil | Anyone wanna test with me rq? |
| 21:37.03 | Kueken | otherwise you could group them up and interpolate colors, until you reach a manageable amount of pixels for the dialog |
| 21:37.24 | Kueken | and check for groups of same colors, which you can replace by 1 images |
| 21:37.38 | Kueken | squares and rectangles |
| 21:37.47 | Zanam | i didnt think of interpolating colors. however the hiding worked really well |
| 21:37.57 | Kueken | okay :) |
| 21:38.13 | Zanam | thanks though :P you're always around to help |
| 21:38.20 | Kueken | will only work, if there is always a decent amount of non-coloured stuff |
| 21:38.29 | Kueken | if this is the case, great |
| 21:38.53 | Zanam | well anything non-colored is the playable area, which needless to say must be fairly large |
| 21:39.00 | Kueken | indeed |
| 21:39.23 | Kueken | and you proably added one big image rendered below the pixels to make it look smooth? |
| 21:40.15 | Zanam | its supposed to be all retro-y so i'm keeping it all nice and jagged |
| 21:40.51 | Zanam | i should have a sample/demo going fairly soon, my map editor is just about finished |
| 21:46.52 | JademusSreg | PEw pew |
| 21:48.34 | Xapti | huh... it seems that there's no function to get the position of a text tag |
| 21:51.21 | Currydevil | Anyone for a quick test? just testing the visibility of a death model |
| 21:57.14 | Ashamed | FU MICROSOFT |
| 21:59.06 | Vailreth | why? |
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| 22:04.43 | Bounty | Nom Nom |
| 22:12.09 | Xapti | Jademus you don't know way of getting text tag location do you? |
| 22:12.18 | Xapti | I was trying out text tag velocity |
| 22:12.36 | Xapti | but once a velocity is set, it seems like you can't locate the position of the tag anymore |
| 22:12.56 | JademusSreg | It's not natively supported, so you'd need to track position separately. |
| 22:13.07 | Xapti | (well not that you could in the first place, but you could set it's location to a point or a unit) |
| 22:13.35 | JademusSreg | It's easy, but can be inconvenient. |
| 22:13.39 | Xapti | that's annoying |
| 22:14.01 | JademusSreg | Whenever you set the text tag's point, update a point var; if it's attached to a unit, get unit position as needed. |
| 22:14.42 | Currydevil | Kueken, how do I lock an attached model's facing/rotation ? |
| 22:14.45 | Xapti | yeah but I'm having it move on it's ow |
| 22:14.57 | Currydevil | so it doesn't turn with the host unit |
| 22:14.57 | Xapti | *own, with text tag velocity |
| 22:15.10 | Xapti | so it's snot having it's position set, nor is it attached to a unit |
| 22:15.14 | Kueken | copy the attachment site operation you are using |
| 22:15.21 | Kueken | and check hold rotation |
| 22:15.24 | JademusSreg | Ah, in that case you'd need to predict its position. |
| 22:15.28 | JademusSreg | Fun stuff. |
| 22:15.32 | Xapti | no kidding |
| 22:15.43 | Xapti | especialyl fun when you have angles like 37.8° |
| 22:15.45 | Currydevil | i'm not using a siteop attachment though =O |
| 22:15.51 | Kueken | oh yes |
| 22:15.55 | Currydevil | I had only attachorigin |
| 22:15.57 | Kueken | I suggested it, right? :D |
| 22:15.58 | Currydevil | and that was breaking it |
| 22:16.05 | Kueken | I remember |
| 22:16.07 | Kueken | then |
| 22:16.12 | Currydevil | should I add a siteop rotation then? |
| 22:16.19 | Kueken | probably yes |
| 22:16.21 | Currydevil | ok |
| 22:16.24 | Xapti | I'd just be better off using a dummy unit and attaching it to that uni |
| 22:16.30 | Kueken | an explicit or a forward vector |
| 22:16.32 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 22:16.35 | Kueken | with islocal unchecked |
| 22:16.39 | Currydevil | ok |
| 22:16.40 | Xapti | makes it completely pointless to have this text tag velocity (although it looks cool) |
| 22:16.58 | Kueken | btw did you solve the death model issue? |
| 22:17.15 | Kueken | just tried it here and got a solution |
| 22:17.25 | Currydevil | yes, it works now, thank you :) |
| 22:17.29 | JademusSreg | With custom movers, you can impose a great deal of control over the text tag + dummy unit combo. |
| 22:17.31 | Xapti | I could use a timer to track it's time moved and calculate the position from there, but that's echky |
| 22:17.41 | Currydevil | i just made a new actor and called it upon the origin unit's death |
| 22:17.48 | Currydevil | with the filters |
| 22:17.53 | Kueken | exactly what I did :) |
| 22:18.05 | Currydevil | My problem now is this.. Lol all my units move with their banners except my reaper =( |
| 22:18.07 | Kueken | tinkering with the death model didn't work out |
| 22:18.21 | Currydevil | I think I might have a bad link |
| 22:18.39 | Xapti | are you using attchment for your banners or no? |
| 22:19.00 | Ahli | need more photon disc players on EU now ;S |
| 22:19.11 | Currydevil | yes Xapti, i am. |
| 22:19.29 | Kueken | well, technically, they are not attached anymore ;) |
| 22:19.36 | Currydevil | Does it matter if it's explicit or forward vector? |
| 22:19.39 | Kueken | they just follow the scope they are created in ^^ |
| 22:19.40 | Currydevil | Yes, that's true lol |
| 22:19.43 | Xapti | you'll probably want to add a "set actor facing ngle" message or whatever after they move laterally |
| 22:19.55 | Currydevil | that's what i'm working on right now Xap. |
| 22:20.04 | Kueken | I would probably use explicit |
| 22:20.07 | Currydevil | ok |
| 22:20.17 | Kueken | but forward vector should work just as well |
| 22:20.32 | Currydevil | ok |
| 22:21.29 | Currydevil | so i'm just enabling hold rotation and disabling is local? |
| 22:22.42 | Zanam | nowhere near this part of the map, but while theres activity here... what would the appropriate actor action be to set an actor to constantly rotate on an aixs? |
| 22:23.43 | Kueken | usually attaching it to another actor, which is rotating |
| 22:24.04 | Currydevil | Ok, fixed the Scout. |
| 22:24.08 | Currydevil | I had a bad link. |
| 22:24.21 | Kueken | or a complex workaround involving a forward vector site operation to make it face another vector, which is then moved around by scaling even more actors |
| 22:24.47 | Currydevil | lol |
| 22:24.52 | Kueken | check DrSuperEvil's windmill in the forums |
| 22:25.02 | Kueken | pretty crazy stuff |
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| 22:25.52 | Kueken | for most practical purposes, I would recommend attaching to a rotating actor, though |
| 22:26.54 | Kueken | best suited for this would be the "TechPurchasePortraitTurn.m3" model, which is just an invisible, turning attachment point |
| 22:27.03 | Repo | Updated wiki entry: Knowledge Base / Trinium Changelog - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/knowledge-base/trinium-changelog/ |
| 22:28.01 | Kueken | also has the convenience of turning exactly 360 degrees in 1 second for easy manipulation |
| 22:28.49 | egod | lol |
| 22:28.52 | egod | i just play the map |
| 22:28.56 | egod | Merchands RPG |
| 22:29.11 | JademusSreg | Merchands? |
| 22:29.16 | egod | omg , probably the worst map i ever see |
| 22:29.40 | egod | something like that |
| 22:29.48 | egod | its first page on US |
| 22:29.56 | Kueken | Jade, your turn |
| 22:30.12 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 22:30.18 | Kueken | time to post your favourite for worst map award :) |
| 22:30.31 | JademusSreg | Ahhh. |
| 22:30.35 | Kueken | I remember you having a candidate |
| 22:30.42 | JademusSreg | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/Map%20Tong%20Hop%20V%2052.0b%20200k.w3x |
| 22:30.50 | JademusSreg | Map Tong Hop. |
| 22:30.56 | egod | vote for my map! |
| 22:30.59 | JademusSreg | Worst thing ever created. |
| 22:31.11 | Currydevil | I played one recently, Dragon RPG. That map is not balanced Lol. I think I died about 30 times by the time I hit level 5. |
| 22:31.42 | egod | oh yeah |
| 22:31.48 | egod | i played it to |
| 22:31.59 | Xapti | does resetting a timer that hasn't yet been started start the timer? |
| 22:32.10 | Kueken | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.12 | egod | the only (good) and polished RPG map on BNET from the last year is the one from Ahli, Diablo mortar should |
| 22:32.28 | Kueken | :D |
| 22:32.36 | Kueken | mortal shroud, but yes |
| 22:34.48 | Ahli | :massimo: |
| 22:35.12 | Ahli | http://www.staredit.net/images/smilies/1/massimo.gif |
| 22:35.30 | JademusSreg | There's no map on SC2 that can compare to the obscenity that is Map Tong Hop. |
| 22:38.12 | Ahli | continues to work on his map because someone said something motivational |
| 22:38.43 | egod | what blizzard gonna do when will put my zelda map http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYsDqtZAvb4 in the arcade plce? |
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| 22:43.58 | Xapti | hmm.... does facing angle of unit not work [well/properly] on units like immortals? |
| 22:44.20 | Xapti | it doesn't seem like it works, and I'm assuming it's because the unit always faces the same direction, just the turret changes direction |
| 22:45.00 | Xapti | I don't think any other unit is like that.... |
| 22:45.54 | Ahli | your map isn't close to be finished -> no arcade place |
| 22:46.01 | Bounty | I think you'll approve of the new Photon Discs update Jade :) |
| 22:46.03 | Xapti | damn why'd I have to chose the 1 test unit that this would be a problem with |
| 22:46.11 | Bounty | Sprint and Shield dont use full bar anymore |
| 22:46.29 | Xapti | but they last just as long? |
| 22:46.35 | Bounty | no |
| 22:46.42 | Bounty | well |
| 22:46.48 | Bounty | if you use them twice in a row they do |
| 22:46.50 | JademusSreg | Map Tong Hop is not merely a bad, because bad is simple; you start with a bad idea, or implement a good idea badly, or some such. But Map Tong Hop is a monument of terrible proportion, a labor of maligned love on the scale of a cosmic Lovecraftian horror, it's blighted and hideous face but a facet of a vast multidimensional ever-rotting never-dead corpse, all teeth and pincers and tendrils, |
| 22:46.50 | JademusSreg | dripping ichor and bile. It's not some abandoned abortion of a concept sloughed into the gutters of the internet; it's an abomination people brought into existence deliberately through their time and labor, a carefully cultivated interactive corruption. |
| 22:46.50 | Xapti | yeah |
| 22:46.56 | Xapti | thata's good change |
| 22:47.06 | JademusSreg | is done. |
| 22:47.15 | Ahli | bounty, make the unit points 1, please. then you can see in the stats screen how often you killed and how many lives you had |
| 22:47.31 | Bounty | They are 1 |
| 22:47.36 | Bounty | in Deathmatch and Team Deathmatch |
| 22:47.45 | Bounty | besides, im going to add a seperate thing to show K/D |
| 22:47.49 | Xapti | you can see how many you killed in the score screen — just click on the units tab |
| 22:47.58 | Bounty | that to |
| 22:47.59 | Xapti | and sort by units killed |
| 22:48.10 | Xapti | can't record deaths though |
| 22:48.11 | JademusSreg | Also, cool. |
| 22:48.13 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 22:48.14 | Ahli | hmm, was that already on EU? |
| 22:48.26 | Bounty | EU has an ooolld version atm |
| 22:48.26 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:48.26 | Xapti | because launching discs are counted as training units |
| 22:48.26 | Ahli | ^^ |
| 22:48.31 | Bounty | I dont even think EU has CTF yet |
| 22:48.32 | Bounty | :) |
| 22:48.34 | Ahli | no ;D |
| 22:48.39 | Bounty | nor the level cap raise to 50 |
| 22:49.03 | Ahli | ctf, awesome |
| 22:49.03 | Ahli | add bots one day, too. k thx ,D |
| 22:49.03 | Ahli | ;D |
| 22:49.03 | Bounty | soon as this new update is bug ridden, ill send the latest version over to Xaragoth |
| 22:49.08 | Bounty | im not that smart |
| 22:49.10 | Xapti | should probably remove discs as being kill credit units in order to see deaths in the score screen |
| 22:49.12 | Bounty | to design an ai lol |
| 22:49.23 | Bounty | im going to add a K/D menu Xapti |
| 22:49.30 | Ahli | and some shortcut for chat, especially tactical for ctf and global statements like great shot and thanks |
| 22:49.53 | Xapti | err not kill credit, trained credit |
| 22:49.53 | Xaragoth | Bounty: 88h played last I looked |
| 22:49.54 | Bounty | nice |
| 22:49.54 | Bounty | I'm gonna have a new version for u soon Xaragoth |
| 22:49.54 | Ahli | page 2 I think ;D |
| 22:50.05 | Xaragoth | kk |
| 22:50.05 | Bounty | I'm trying to make sure i dont send u every single update |
| 22:50.05 | Bounty | and i just send u ones after awhile |
| 22:50.05 | Ahli | I won every game I played on EU >_> |
| 22:50.08 | Bounty | so u get big updates lol |
| 22:50.18 | Xapti | Can someone confirm for me that unit facing command doesn't really work with immortals? |
| 22:50.30 | flyingspatula | ... have u fixed the sprint/trying to ALL chat yet |
| 22:50.35 | JademusSreg | Immortals use a turret. |
| 22:50.42 | JademusSreg | So they are not turnable. =D |
| 22:50.44 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 22:51.08 | Bounty | the what? |
| 22:51.08 | Bounty | oh, no |
| 22:51.08 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:51.08 | flyingspatula | when you hit shift + enter to talk |
| 22:51.08 | flyingspatula | ah |
| 22:51.14 | Bounty | it'll be less of an issue now though |
| 22:51.19 | Bounty | since u dont use the entire bar on a single go |
| 22:51.31 | Xapti | yeah but other units that have turrets are turnable |
| 22:51.43 | Xapti | immortals just happen to alsobe not turnable AND use turret |
| 22:51.47 | flyingspatula | dont b lazy, just add a condition for the shift modifier |
| 22:52.01 | Xapti | so I think they're really one of, if not the only, unit in the game that doesn't turn |
| 22:52.17 | Xapti | (that can move) |
| 22:52.29 | Ahli | colossus don't turn neither, I've heard yesterday here |
| 22:52.38 | Xapti | oh yeah i could see that |
| 22:52.51 | Xapti | I think stalkers turn though |
| 22:52.52 | flyingspatula | u know i never noticed that |
| 22:56.50 | egod | sixen |
| 22:56.58 | flyingspatula | http://i.imgur.com/qd1R0.jpg lolol |
| 22:57.09 | egod | what would be cool between 2xthing |
| 22:57.45 | egod | Show Andariel Act1 Boss fight from Diablo2 Catacomb or Diablo3 Alpha Reborn from blizzcon screenshot 2011 |
| 22:58.16 | Xapti | lol wtf |
| 22:58.58 | Xapti | I wonder how that happened |
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| 23:02.23 | Mexa | egod, you're map would not be allowed to be in the marketplace, simple as it is. |
| 23:02.33 | Mexa | You don't think they wouldn't evaluate those, would you? |
| 23:02.47 | Mexa | @Zelda |
| 23:03.12 | egod | youre right |
| 23:03.14 | IskatuMesk | If they evaluated my maps they would die of a heart attack. |
| 23:03.23 | Ahli | haha |
| 23:03.46 | IskatuMesk | "Oh my god! He says naughty words! And his maps are twice the size of the entire server!" |
| 23:03.58 | IskatuMesk | "How can our 56k modems handle this?!" |
| 23:04.39 | Ahli | I don't think 56k modems are capable of handling battle.net 0.2 |
| 23:04.41 | Mexa | oh you |
| 23:05.21 | IskatuMesk | Oh boy, I've got the schedule tonight. |
| 23:05.28 | Ahli | yay, now more textures got a higher resolution in my map |
| 23:05.55 | IskatuMesk | First, I have to breathe. That's tough. Then eat. I just snort interns out of my bucket and I'm good. Then I've got a hot date with JademusSreg. Then I get to edit the last chunks of my God of War 2 LP and start uploading that. |
| 23:20.10 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 23:21.42 | IskatuMesk | sup |
| 23:22.27 | JademusSreg | Stuff. Made some textures, thinking of ways to make my data-based elevator more efficient. |
| 23:24.01 | flyingspatula | orly |
| 23:24.08 | Zanam | so, is the marketplace actually happening? |
| 23:24.14 | flyingspatula | ill be curious to see how that works jade |
| 23:27.26 | IskatuMesk | You could make all of the protoss glow stuff player color like in alpha for me :3 |
| 23:27.26 | IskatuMesk | I sure hope not, Zanam |
| 23:27.26 | JademusSreg | Counts: "thanks jade" 51; "ty jade" 12; "thank you jade" 7; "thanks so much jade" 2; "fu jade" 2 |
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| 23:27.26 | JademusSreg | Unfortunately, posting that count will throw off all possible future counts. |
| 23:27.26 | Kueken | is there an easy way to disable scrolling via mouse movement, middle mouse key and arrow keys? |
| 23:27.26 | Kueken | I thought, there would be trigger functions for it |
| 23:27.26 | flyingspatula | define scrolling |
| 23:27.26 | Kueken | but I only found locking the camera completely |
| 23:27.48 | flyingspatula | so u want |
| 23:27.52 | flyingspatula | camera to not |
| 23:27.54 | flyingspatula | ever move? |
| 23:27.59 | flyingspatula | if u dont want mouse or keys to do it |
| 23:28.05 | flyingspatula | then its the same idea |
| 23:28.25 | Kueken | I want to be able to zoom |
| 23:28.25 | Kueken | when I lock the entire camera, i cannot |
| 23:28.36 | JademusSreg | Camera bounds. |
| 23:28.40 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 23:28.50 | JademusSreg | Set the camera bounds to a very small area. =D |
| 23:29.00 | flyingspatula | theres an idea lol |
| 23:29.11 | Kueken | scrolling should still be possible via trigger |
| 23:29.32 | Kueken | or when following a unit |
| 23:29.49 | Kueken | think of a WASD topdown |
| 23:30.03 | Kueken | camera stays focused on the hero |
| 23:30.18 | Kueken | do I need to pan every .0625? |
| 23:30.26 | JademusSreg | Follow unit group? |
| 23:32.05 | Kueken | that still allows for scrolling |
| 23:32.05 | Kueken | it immediately focuses back on the unit, once you stop |
| 23:32.05 | Kueken | (unless you use the middle mouse key) |
| 23:32.05 | JademusSreg | Ah. I have camera relative. |
| 23:33.17 | JademusSreg | I use follow unit group with camera relative when implementing WASD controls, so that's probably why I've not had an issue. |
| 23:33.41 | Kueken | indeed |
| 23:34.01 | Kueken | did you try middle mouse key or arrow keys? |
| 23:34.21 | flyingspatula | camera relative? |
| 23:34.34 | JademusSreg | Arrow keys are used by my WASD controls, as well. |
| 23:34.35 | Kueken | camera turns with the mouse |
| 23:34.56 | Kueken | or the direction of the movement |
| 23:34.57 | Xapti | how do I reference the turret of the immortal? I tried "actor from actor" "actor from unit" "immortal", via reference "immortal turret" |
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| 23:35.26 | Xapti | "immortal turret" was a string value I put in, since that's what the actor's name is, but I assume i'm doing something wrong |
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| 23:35.38 | Kueken | the id is ImmortalTurret, I believe |
| 23:36.08 | Kueken | without space |
| 23:36.08 | Kueken | also its case sensitive |
| 23:36.08 | Xapti | oh right hte id |
| 23:36.08 | Xapti | yeah |
| 23:36.08 | JademusSreg | http://pastebin.com/FsPsWfMt |
| 23:36.08 | Xapti | i used the name, forgot about having to use ID |
| 23:36.11 | Mexa | Jademus, is tere any difference between Panning and Following a unitgroup which you have noticed? |
| 23:36.11 | Mexa | *h |
| 23:36.20 | JademusSreg | This is how I set up UI in my old stuff. |
| 23:36.48 | JademusSreg | With this combination, I still have access to zoom, and arrow keys don't mess with it. =D |
| 23:36.53 | Kueken | well, follow unit group = 1 action, panning = 1 action looped :) |
| 23:36.57 | Xapti | still doesn't seem to be working |
| 23:37.02 | Mexa | Oh yeah, I suppose the difference is that Follow is set once, but panning must be done frequently, right? |
| 23:37.10 | Kueken | yes |
| 23:37.14 | Xapti | yeah |
| 23:37.23 | JademusSreg | Yarrr. |
| 23:37.23 | Mexa | Anything else? |
| 23:37.32 | Kueken | follow still allows for scrolling :) |
| 23:37.44 | Kueken | panning shouldn't |
| 23:38.00 | Mexa | You mean the zoom feature? |
| 23:38.22 | Kueken | scroll to left&right with arrow keys, mouse movement or middle mouse key |
| 23:38.24 | Mexa | Pan will only move to a specified position, it wont affect zooming. |
| 23:38.24 | JademusSreg | Middle mouse/scroll wheel doesn't mess with it, either. |
| 23:38.28 | Mexa | Oh |
| 23:38.39 | Mexa | Got it. |
| 23:39.08 | JademusSreg | So that UI / camera setup prevents players from messing with the camera position. |
| 23:39.20 | Kueken | I would like to disable those, but if there is no easy way to do it, I guess I will use looped panning |
| 23:39.33 | JademusSreg | You need the mouse for targeting and such, I take? |
| 23:39.46 | Kueken | ...but it sets the camera angle based on the mouse, right? |
| 23:39.46 | egod | youtube it or its a lie |
| 23:39.46 | Kueken | yes indeed |
| 23:39.58 | JademusSreg | Youtube what? |
| 23:40.04 | Xapti | Actor - Make (Actor connected to (Actor for immortl) via reference "ImmortalTurret") face (Angle from (Position of immortl) to Pointi) |
| 23:40.04 | egod | your system |
| 23:40.12 | Xapti | That's what I have and it doesn't work |
| 23:40.21 | JademusSreg | It's not a system; it's some old scripts. |
| 23:40.47 | JademusSreg | And also, you wouldn't be able to see my pressing the keys, so how would a yoputube video demonstrate anything? |
| 23:41.07 | Kueken | film yourself pressing the keys :D |
| 23:41.10 | JademusSreg | Yoputube! I bet that's a phishing site. |
| 23:41.12 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 23:41.13 | egod | lol yes! |
| 23:41.46 | IskatuMesk | youtube is worse than a phishing site |
| 23:42.06 | IskatuMesk | it's like an injection of aids and brain damage every time you go to it |
| 23:42.45 | Xapti | can someone tell me what i'm doing wrong? |
| 23:43.47 | Xapti | oh maybe i should use actor from scope? |
| 23:43.59 | Xapti | I'll try that |
| 23:45.20 | flyingspatula | jade wahts this c_syncFrameTypeFirst; crap in ur pastebin |
| 23:45.36 | Kueken | to check, if it references the correct actor, you could send a "Destroy" message |
| 23:45.58 | Kueken | btw |
| 23:46.01 | Xapti | damn its not working either |
| 23:46.13 | Kueken | pan seems to prevent zoom as well :( |
| 23:46.31 | Xapti | yeah I guess I hould start with a simpler action, but I suspect that won't make a difference |
| 23:46.32 | Kueken | so I would need to handle zooming separately |
| 23:46.45 | Xapti | BTW which should I use? actor from actor or actor from scope? |
| 23:47.06 | Kueken | I guess, internally it doesn't make a difference |
| 23:47.19 | Kueken | actor from actor will probably call actor from scope anyway |
| 23:50.05 | Kueken | so using pan makes no sense, using follow unit and lock input has the same effect without requiring a periodic action |
| 23:51.21 | Xapti | lol |
| 23:51.33 | Xapti | got it "working"... at elast somwhat...lol |
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| 23:51.56 | Xapti | the destroy message detached the turret from the unit (but didn't destroy/remove it) |
| 23:51.57 | Xapti | looked funny |
| 23:52.07 | Xapti | got me a dragoon |
| 23:52.23 | Kueken | yep, that happens to destroyed turret actors |
| 23:52.36 | Kueken | works with other turret models as well |
| 23:54.13 | JademusSreg | Fly, I wrote that script before native for loops were implemented. |
| 23:55.14 | flyingspatula | ah ok |
| 23:55.23 | Kueken | yeah, reminds me of Galaxy++ which still converts all for loops to while loops :D |
| 23:55.28 | JademusSreg | It iterates through all the UI frames and disables visibility. |
| 23:55.33 | JademusSreg | Hahaha |
| 23:55.34 | flyingspatula | but |
| 23:55.36 | Xapti | So I had to use actor from actor. Actor from scope didn't work (I don't really know how scopes work or exactly what they are) |
| 23:55.45 | flyingspatula | does HideGameUI(false, (PlayerGroupAll())) do same thing |
| 23:55.59 | JademusSreg | shrugs. |
| 23:56.05 | JademusSreg | Like I said, it's an old script. |
| 23:56.06 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 23:56.20 | Xapti | Actor - Send message "Destroy" to actor ("ImmortalTurret" actor from the scope (Actor scope for immortl)) |
| 23:56.22 | Xapti | Actor - Send message "Destroy" to actor (Actor connected to (Actor for immortl) via reference "ImmortalTurret") |
| 23:56.26 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 23:58.55 | Kueken | okay, got it :) |
| 23:59.00 | Xapti | I guess telling actor to face just doesn't work for that actor |
| 23:59.09 | Xapti | maybe there's an actor message that does the same thing (like rotate) |
| 23:59.43 | Kueken | there is a set rotation actor message |
| 23:59.55 | Xapti | there's set facing |
