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| 00:26.03 | Xapti_ | DarkOrbis you mean aside from giving them the map? |
| 00:26.13 | Xapti_ | oh mods |
| 00:27.31 | Xapti_ | yeah that's an interesting point |
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| 00:50.42 | Repo | Updated wiki entry: Galaxy / Data / Abilities / Effect / Target - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/data/abilities/effect/target/ |
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| 02:24.26 | Vaer | is there an actor event to ping the map |
| 02:24.38 | JademusSreg | HM. |
| 02:26.51 | Vaer | signal didnt work |
| 02:26.52 | Vaer | lol |
| 02:28.19 | Vaer | ok new question |
| 02:28.25 | Vaer | is there a way to ping the map from data |
| 02:28.43 | JademusSreg | Yes. Alerts. |
| 02:29.11 | Vaer | right ty |
| 02:29.40 | Vaer | that will work |
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| 02:30.26 | JademusSreg | No problem. |
| 02:41.41 | Bounty | Nom Nom |
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| 02:47.42 | DarkOrbis | Hey, quick question. anyone know how to change the direction a model faces when moving forward? like I have a model of an arrow I imported but flies sideways |
| 02:48.28 | Vaer | yep |
| 02:48.32 | Vaer | in the mover |
| 02:48.43 | Vaer | let me look at exactly what its called |
| 02:48.52 | DarkOrbis | hmmm |
| 02:49.25 | Vaer | ok in the motion phase |
| 02:49.29 | Vaer | of the mover u are using |
| 02:49.40 | Vaer | near the bottom of the list u will see |
| 02:49.51 | Vaer | rotation actor type |
| 02:50.01 | Vaer | set it to look at target |
| 02:50.06 | Vaer | its one of those |
| 02:50.15 | Vaer | something to do with those rotation types |
| 02:50.30 | Vaer | might take some testing i dont know the exact field |
| 02:51.05 | DarkOrbis | works sometimes |
| 02:52.07 | Vaer | there are 3 fields |
| 02:52.29 | Vaer | rotation actor type, launch rotation actor and throw rotation type |
| 02:52.42 | Vaer | change them all to look at target |
| 02:52.46 | Vaer | or launch at target |
| 02:53.15 | DarkOrbis | doesn't work |
| 02:53.27 | Vaer | your arrow is a missile right |
| 02:53.33 | DarkOrbis | right |
| 02:54.10 | Vaer | is the driver of the motion phase a throw? |
| 02:54.18 | DarkOrbis | yup |
| 02:54.30 | Vaer | idk thats how I make my missile face their target |
| 02:54.35 | Vaer | and it works for me |
| 02:54.36 | Vaer | lol |
| 02:54.37 | Vaer | sorry |
| 02:54.41 | DarkOrbis | I can send you the model |
| 02:54.51 | Vaer | send me the whole file |
| 02:54.55 | Vaer | ill look quick |
| 02:55.12 | DarkOrbis | the map contains triggers I don't want to release to others |
| 02:55.33 | DarkOrbis | so give me a sec to remove that stuff |
| 02:55.33 | Vaer | well i dont really want to set up a missile just to test |
| 02:55.38 | Vaer | kk |
| 02:56.39 | Vaer | if its a wow model or something u imported |
| 02:57.01 | Vaer | i might take a look at how the attachment points of other missiles are placed |
| 02:57.07 | Vaer | and see if your model matches |
| 02:57.49 | Vaer | or even open them a modeling program to see the orientation of the missiles |
| 02:58.41 | Vaer | but I imported afew models from wow that I use as missiles |
| 02:58.49 | Vaer | and the throw rotation worked for me |
| 03:33.21 | Dustin | My units turn aaway from the center of my knockback...is there a way you guys know of to circumvent this? |
| 03:35.12 | Dustin | Im just using a force effect |
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| 03:49.51 | DarkOrbis | -.- |
| 03:51.30 | Vaer | ya idk |
| 03:51.55 | Vaer | try adding a guidance driver |
| 03:51.59 | Vaer | after the throw |
| 03:52.19 | Vaer | im gonna try that next |
| 04:01.04 | Dustin | Force effects just make units turn around and walk now? |
| 04:01.04 | Dustin | wtf |
| 04:10.23 | Vaer | ok ive tried alot of crap |
| 04:10.31 | Vaer | clearly this wow model is missing something |
| 04:10.41 | Vaer | i can fix the model prob |
| 04:11.28 | DarkOrbis | thx |
| 04:20.50 | Vaer | the bone thats fixed to the skin of this arrow for the first 3 frames is fixed in position |
| 04:20.58 | Vaer | thats why it wont turn im guessing |
| 04:21.31 | Vaer | the addon for 3dsmax that lets me fuck with m3 models is very limited |
| 04:21.43 | Vaer | I'll try attaching my own bone and just delete blizzards |
| 04:21.53 | Vaer | but alot of the time that can mess alot of other things up |
| 04:22.52 | DarkOrbis | hmmm |
| 04:43.48 | Dustin | Anyone wanna test my map with me? |
| 04:47.22 | JademusSreg | (Sorry. Busy. Can test later.) |
| 04:49.56 | themusic | ill test |
| 04:51.46 | Vaer | ok |
| 04:51.51 | Vaer | i think i got it |
| 04:51.56 | Vaer | what a fucking bitch that was |
| 04:52.02 | Vaer | lol |
| 04:52.11 | Vaer | i dont even know if this is the right orientation |
| 04:54.08 | themusic | i take control of a critter but i cannot select it at the same time as my other units, anyone know what setting is preventing this? |
| 04:55.38 | DarkOrbis | ok vaer |
| 04:55.45 | Vaer | yep just tested |
| 04:55.47 | Vaer | looks good |
| 04:55.52 | Vaer | let me bundle this for u |
| 04:55.52 | DarkOrbis | cool |
| 04:56.17 | themusic | probably something stupid im missing |
| 04:57.47 | DarkOrbis | one last thing, since you know modeling. do you know how to export wow models to SC2 but keep all the textures separate instead of them compiling into a single texture. (i.e. chest, hands, legs, feet, waist, wrist, etc.) |
| 04:58.17 | DarkOrbis | as long as you know can could teach me the 'how to' I can do it myself |
| 04:59.26 | Vaer | u cant do that |
| 04:59.31 | Vaer | each item |
| 04:59.35 | DarkOrbis | :( |
| 04:59.35 | Vaer | like pants and chest ect |
| 04:59.41 | Vaer | are seperate models |
| 04:59.47 | Vaer | if u goto items in the viewer |
| 04:59.51 | Vaer | u can export them |
| 04:59.56 | Vaer | so u can do it |
| 05:00.10 | Vaer | but u cant make a model and then export the textures seperately |
| 05:00.36 | Vaer | why would u want that |
| 05:01.13 | DarkOrbis | only items that are separate models are helm, shoulders, weapons, ammo, and shield |
| 05:03.42 | DarkOrbis | I want to be able to switch out each texture on a per unit basis |
| 05:04.01 | Vaer | u dont need to seperate the textures to do that |
| 05:04.08 | Vaer | ill link u the tutorial |
| 05:04.15 | Vaer | if i can find it |
| 05:04.48 | DarkOrbis | only head, shoulders, weapons, and shield are separate models from the actually character model |
| 05:05.14 | DarkOrbis | this one i bet http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/15012-importing-wow-characters-to-sc2-and-attaching-shoulders/ |
| 05:05.42 | Vaer | no i mean how to set up a unit with multiple textures that can be switched using an actor message |
| 05:05.51 | Vaer | i understand what u want |
| 05:05.59 | Vaer | when the model is made |
| 05:06.11 | Vaer | the entire thing is mapped for a single texture |
| 05:06.14 | Vaer | some times 2 or 3 |
| 05:06.21 | Vaer | but usually just one |
| 05:06.57 | Vaer | i have no idea how wow changes textures seperately |
| 05:07.13 | Vaer | *separately |
| 05:09.59 | Vaer | where do u want me to upload this file |
| 05:11.22 | themusic | i have an ftp? :) |
| 05:11.43 | Vaer | i dont |
| 05:11.57 | DarkOrbis | got dropbox? |
| 05:12.05 | DarkOrbis | makes it really easy |
| 05:12.17 | themusic | <3 dropbox |
| 05:12.24 | themusic | sign up and give me free space >=) |
| 05:12.27 | Vaer | i do have dropbox |
| 05:12.48 | DarkOrbis | add it in your public folder and give me the link |
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| 05:17.39 | DarkOrbis | I understand SC2's texture swap |
| 05:18.12 | DarkOrbis | just need a way to export a wow model to SC2 and preserve the textures in the separate files |
| 05:20.09 | Vaer | just make different models |
| 05:20.15 | Vaer | and export all the different textures |
| 05:20.18 | Vaer | just like |
| 05:20.21 | Vaer | change the pants |
| 05:20.22 | Vaer | export |
| 05:20.25 | Vaer | change them again |
| 05:20.27 | DarkOrbis | thats more then I'd have room for |
| 05:20.27 | Vaer | export |
| 05:20.49 | Vaer | well u only need the textures |
| 05:20.53 | DarkOrbis | since I'd have to do every combination possible |
| 05:20.58 | Vaer | yep |
| 05:21.08 | DarkOrbis | a good 1000+ |
| 05:21.18 | Vaer | SC2 does not have the ability to do what u want it to |
| 05:21.28 | Vaer | im 75% sure |
| 05:21.30 | DarkOrbis | actually SC2 does |
| 05:21.30 | Vaer | lol |
| 05:21.40 | DarkOrbis | Texture Swap is in SC2 |
| 05:21.55 | Vaer | when a texture is applied to a model it uses the UVW mapping of that model |
| 05:22.11 | Vaer | SC2 does not have the ability to pick out what part of the map is going to be changed |
| 05:22.17 | Vaer | and swap just part of a texture |
| 05:22.27 | DarkOrbis | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/20772-data-actor-events-message-texture-select-by-id/ |
| 05:22.31 | DarkOrbis | yes it does |
| 05:22.40 | Vaer | i know what that is |
| 05:22.55 | DarkOrbis | you can take say a zealot and change just his hair |
| 05:23.18 | Vaer | because his hair is a different map |
| 05:23.35 | Vaer | most wow models their hair is a differnt map |
| 05:23.39 | DarkOrbis | I just need to find a way to export a WoW model to preserve the separate texture files |
| 05:23.41 | Vaer | the legs |
| 05:23.43 | Vaer | chest |
| 05:23.45 | Vaer | ect |
| 05:23.46 | Vaer | is not |
| 05:24.13 | Vaer | short of going in |
| 05:24.19 | Vaer | and remapping the model |
| 05:24.25 | Vaer | which u could do |
| 05:24.34 | Vaer | u could make 5 new maps for the model |
| 05:24.54 | Vaer | if u know how to do UVW mapping |
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| 05:33.18 | DarkOrbis | ok. done with the arrow model? |
| 05:33.28 | Vaer | oh ya |
| 05:33.30 | Vaer | lol |
| 05:33.31 | Vaer | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/73872056/arrowflight_01.rar |
| 05:33.42 | DarkOrbis | thanks |
| 05:33.59 | Vaer | it worked for me but i was using it as a weapon |
| 05:34.04 | Vaer | let me know if it looks ok |
| 05:34.06 | Vaer | oh |
| 05:34.10 | Vaer | and the texture file |
| 05:34.18 | Vaer | make sure u put that in your root directory |
| 05:37.49 | DarkOrbis | ok |
| 05:52.59 | Vaer | DID IT WORK |
| 05:53.06 | Vaer | stop leaving me in suspence |
| 05:53.23 | Vaer | suspense* |
| 05:53.27 | Vaer | fuck its late |
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| 05:57.02 | Xapti_ | why was Blizzard so mean and didn't include many unused units like http://sc2pod.com/w/images/f/f1/Purifier.jpg |
| 05:59.56 | Xapti_ | I also thought they said they'd have models for all units that were in SC1. They're missing queen deflier, devourer, reaver, shuttle, and dragoon (although immortal legs works well I think). Would be stupid if we had to wait for Legacy of the Void for them |
| 06:00.01 | DarkOrbis | what's the texture's file path. i.e. folder name to put it in |
| 06:00.57 | Vaer | just put it in root |
| 06:01.00 | Vaer | right click it |
| 06:01.03 | Vaer | goto move |
| 06:01.05 | Vaer | and move it to root |
| 06:01.11 | Vaer | i didnt give it one |
| 06:01.47 | DarkOrbis | not working |
| 06:01.53 | Vaer | totally works |
| 06:01.55 | DarkOrbis | model still comes up blue |
| 06:01.59 | Vaer | save |
| 06:02.01 | Vaer | log out |
| 06:02.04 | Vaer | reopen |
| 06:07.09 | themusic | yea closing the program and reopening is required to load any new model textures |
| 06:07.30 | DarkOrbis | normally it isn't |
| 06:07.47 | DarkOrbis | import texture, save, import model, save |
| 06:07.53 | DarkOrbis | always works |
| 06:08.56 | themusic | never works for me heh |
| 06:11.03 | Currydevil | How would I make an actor created via trigger visible for only 1 player? |
| 06:15.24 | themusic | hmm |
| 06:15.27 | themusic | interesting one.. |
| 06:17.17 | themusic | dont know of a way to |
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| 06:20.38 | Currydevil | I'm reading up on it, but I don't think I can use the filter method with actors created via trigger. |
| 06:20.53 | Currydevil | because they have no player reference without being attached to a unit |
| 06:21.22 | themusic | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/map-development/10315-solved-unit-actor-only-visible-for-one-player/ |
| 06:21.41 | themusic | looks like a permanently cloaked behavior can mimic it |
| 06:22.16 | themusic | (2nd to last post) |
| 06:23.42 | Currydevil | That doesn't help me though because i'm not using it as a unit. |
| 06:23.50 | Currydevil | I'm just using an actor created at point. |
| 06:24.02 | themusic | use a unit :) |
| 06:24.17 | Currydevil | I tried unit, but it was interfering with a 'number of living units in group == 0' check |
| 06:24.24 | Currydevil | even though i set the unit as an exclusion |
| 06:24.53 | themusic | weird, even if you set it as something random like robotic or hero |
| 06:25.08 | DarkOrbis | Vaer, still there? |
| 06:25.14 | Currydevil | mhm, set them as hero and structure and marked those as excluded and still counted it in the check |
| 06:25.51 | themusic | doesnt make sense that what i use in my map, works great |
| 06:25.54 | DarkOrbis | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6442151/Screenshot2012-04-17%2001_24_21.jpg |
| 06:26.01 | themusic | maybe another rogue trigger |
| 06:26.06 | Currydevil | dunno |
| 06:26.10 | DarkOrbis | one model, one body texture, 2 hair textures |
| 06:26.28 | DarkOrbis | which makes 2 different units |
| 06:26.36 | Currydevil | i'm going to try remaking the units. I notice sometimes the dataeditor gets goofy if you change something after you make the unit |
| 06:27.04 | Currydevil | like the very first window you get after right clicking and pick add unit |
| 06:27.45 | DarkOrbis | wonders where Vaer is |
| 06:27.48 | DarkOrbis | :/ |
| 06:30.10 | Vaer | 1 sec brb |
| 06:30.12 | Vaer | kind of here |
| 06:30.46 | DarkOrbis | ok |
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| 06:39.42 | themusic | weird, squadron tower d shows 71717 bookmarks |
| 06:40.06 | themusic | like seeing your odometer at 55,555 or somethin.. |
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| 06:55.00 | Vaer | ok whats up |
| 06:55.25 | Vaer | DarkOrbis |
| 06:55.35 | DarkOrbis | see this http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6442151/Screenshot2012-04-17%2001_24_21.jpg |
| 06:55.42 | DarkOrbis | one model, one body texture |
| 06:55.52 | DarkOrbis | 2 hair textures, one per unit |
| 06:55.59 | Vaer | yes u can change hair |
| 06:56.08 | Vaer | the hair is almost always a seperate map |
| 06:56.41 | DarkOrbis | same would work for say belt or chest if i can get the models exported with texture paths preserved |
| 06:56.49 | Vaer | no |
| 06:56.50 | Vaer | lol |
| 06:56.54 | Vaer | it doesnt work like that |
| 06:56.55 | DarkOrbis | yes |
| 06:57.04 | Vaer | ok im not gonna argue |
| 06:57.09 | Vaer | im telling u right now |
| 06:57.22 | DarkOrbis | I just need to find a damn way to export the models like that |
| 06:57.23 | Vaer | the chest and legs are not seperate maps |
| 06:57.55 | Vaer | export that night elf |
| 06:57.59 | Vaer | u will get 2 textures |
| 06:58.02 | Vaer | 1 for the hair |
| 06:58.04 | Vaer | 1 for the rest |
| 06:58.05 | DarkOrbis | when you use the stupid wow model viewer method then the entire body is one texture |
| 06:58.07 | Vaer | why is that? |
| 06:58.11 | Vaer | because it has 2 maps |
| 06:58.14 | Vaer | not 20 |
| 06:58.21 | Vaer | for every piece on the model |
| 06:58.48 | Vaer | the entire body is always one texture |
| 06:58.59 | DarkOrbis | wow models for characters have many textures, when you have wow model viewer export to M3 it flattens the body into one texture |
| 06:59.13 | Vaer | yes but they change the texture not the map |
| 07:00.07 | DarkOrbis | if you select a character model and tell it to export all textures to tga you get like 20-30 textures, each for different areas on the body |
| 07:00.31 | Vaer | open those |
| 07:00.35 | Vaer | they are shaders |
| 07:00.40 | Vaer | not diffuse maps |
| 07:01.19 | Vaer | an alpha layer glow map for the eyes |
| 07:01.22 | DarkOrbis | they're skins |
| 07:01.30 | Vaer | a specular map for a shiney bracelet |
| 07:01.39 | Vaer | these are all things that can use the same single map |
| 07:01.57 | Vaer | by controlling the alpha layer associated with the shader |
| 07:04.32 | Vaer | look |
| 07:04.35 | Vaer | if u want |
| 07:04.42 | Vaer | get an mpq unpacker |
| 07:04.55 | Vaer | and get the specific .blp files |
| 07:04.59 | Vaer | that blizzard uses |
| 07:05.08 | Vaer | to combine their mip maps |
| 07:05.29 | Vaer | but im telling u right now |
| 07:05.37 | Vaer | unless u remap the models |
| 07:05.49 | Vaer | u can not apply changes in sc2 |
| 07:06.02 | Vaer | because it isnt the wow engine |
| 07:06.09 | Vaer | and it doesnt work with .blp |
| 07:06.54 | Vaer | and if it does |
| 07:07.03 | Vaer | someone would have figured it out by now i hope |
| 07:07.04 | Vaer | lol |
| 07:07.08 | Vaer | im going to bed |
| 07:07.12 | Vaer | ill be on tommorow |
| 07:07.16 | Vaer | let me know how it goes |
| 07:19.26 | Dustin | woooooooooo |
| 07:26.39 | Currydevil | I hate my triggers. |
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| 07:30.40 | Dustin | I do to sometimes lol |
| 07:30.47 | Dustin | But I try to stay organized |
| 07:31.11 | Currydevil | wow, that was dumb. |
| 07:31.14 | Currydevil | I just fixed it. |
| 07:31.46 | Currydevil | Ok, so I check the region I want to move to if it is already occupied |
| 07:31.53 | Currydevil | if it isn't, then i can move there |
| 07:32.12 | Currydevil | I made a unit with a model to use for a visual and marked the unit as a structure |
| 07:32.32 | Currydevil | I set structure as an exclusion in the unit group check and it was still counting the structure |
| 07:32.54 | Currydevil | I just now set structure as required and it works now. |
| 07:33.00 | themusic | woo |
| 07:33.10 | Currydevil | not sure why it works as a requirement. |
| 07:33.16 | Currydevil | and not an exclusion |
| 07:33.48 | Dustin | lol weird |
| 07:33.50 | Currydevil | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:33.50 | Currydevil | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:33.50 | Currydevil | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:33.56 | Currydevil | yeah right |
| 07:34.11 | Currydevil | excluding structures, the count should be 0 for an empty square. |
| 07:34.20 | Currydevil | but it wasn't working. |
| 07:34.48 | Currydevil | and of course, it works but i broke it. |
| 07:35.17 | Currydevil | so I was trying to use just the actors, but there's not a way to hide them for a single player |
| 07:35.20 | Currydevil | and show to the other. |
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| 07:42.13 | Currydevil | I don't get it! |
| 07:42.36 | Dustin | Curry, want to test my map? |
| 07:42.54 | Currydevil | sure just a min, trying a diff filter |
| 07:43.36 | Dustin | kk |
| 07:44.19 | Currydevil | lol |
| 07:44.23 | Currydevil | the missile filter works |
| 07:44.37 | Dustin | nice! |
| 07:44.51 | Currydevil | but i get an error now "trying to create a missile directly and not in the context of an attack' |
| 07:45.54 | Currydevil | hero flag doesn't seem to work though |
| 07:46.04 | Currydevil | maybe hero object type will workl |
| 07:46.34 | themusic | are you using required/excluded wrong? |
| 07:46.54 | Currydevil | how would i be using it wrong? the excluded worked properly with the missile filter |
| 07:46.58 | Currydevil | but not structure |
| 07:48.17 | themusic | you required structure tho not exluded |
| 07:48.40 | Currydevil | i changed it back |
| 07:49.36 | themusic | pick each unit in (units in entire map) required:structure, excluded: heroic, missile, dead, hidden ---- this will ONLY return structures... if there are no requirements, it will return everything except for heroes, missiles, dead things and hidden things |
| 07:50.22 | Currydevil | I changed it back. .. |
| 07:50.37 | themusic | heh |
| 07:51.37 | Currydevil | ok, looks like invulnerable works. |
| 07:51.41 | Currydevil | finally. |
| 07:51.45 | Dustin | themusic, you want to test my map with curry and me? |
| 07:53.49 | Currydevil | nice, working better now. |
| 07:56.30 | Currydevil | ok, i'm ready when you are dustin |
| 07:57.04 | Dustin | kk im in lobby |
| 07:57.35 | Currydevil | ok, what's the map? |
| 07:58.04 | Dustin | Team Co-Op Rpgish Defense map |
| 07:58.13 | Currydevil | ok |
| 07:58.17 | Currydevil | is that the name? |
| 07:58.22 | Dustin | Turn Defense |
| 07:58.24 | Currydevil | ok |
| 07:58.41 | Dustin | are we bnet friend |
| 07:58.42 | Dustin | s |
| 07:58.46 | Currydevil | add me. nope lol |
| 07:58.49 | Currydevil | 474 |
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| 08:44.18 | JademusSreg | Got a data-based elevator working. Sweet. |
| 08:44.21 | JademusSreg | Sleep time. |
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| 11:19.05 | Ahli | I think I'm 10kb away from galaxy script limit :o |
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| 11:26.24 | Zanam | is there an integer to ascii character native or do I need to create one |
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| 11:58.57 | Ahli | where the f*ck is that limit... I'm trying to find it :S |
| 11:59.35 | Ahli | 2103kb were fine... |
| 12:16.57 | Ahli | 2302kb is fine for mapscript.galaxy file... limit where are u? ;S |
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| 12:28.01 | Slaydon | guys |
| 12:28.24 | Slaydon | how much memory is 195,536k ? |
| 12:29.55 | Ahli | slaydon, you are missing a unit defining the dimension of the number... something like the b in kb |
| 12:30.20 | Slaydon | the information i have is |
| 12:30.30 | Slaydon | mem:random numbers/195536k |
| 12:30.38 | Slaydon | well not really random |
| 12:31.21 | Slaydon | i figured there was something missing |
| 12:38.14 | Ahli | 2566kb in mapscript.galaxy file is fine... |
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| 13:48.38 | Ahli | 3061kb mapscript.galaxy is fine. Having much more throws a script to long error message in the editor |
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| 14:31.24 | Ashamed | good fucking morning? |
| 14:50.24 | Vailreth | whats good about it? |
| 14:51.25 | Ahli | good thing is that the mapscript limit is at 3mb for me. Maybe mappers like DarkRevenant can continue to work on their maps... |
| 14:52.33 | Vailreth | i meant the morning |
| 14:53.02 | Ahli | at least I guess they could... I have no reason why DarkRevenant just used 1mb in variables or whatever reduces it than me. |
| 14:53.14 | Ahli | *more |
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| 14:56.50 | Kueken | www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbwLcCYLoRw |
| 14:57.01 | Kueken | :) |
| 14:57.06 | Vailreth | whats that? |
| 14:57.43 | Kueken | something I worked on the last night |
| 14:58.09 | Kueken | a way to recolor specific parts of the unit ingame |
| 14:59.04 | Vailreth | and you dont have a job at blizzard why? |
| 14:59.12 | Kueken | :D |
| 15:03.28 | ducky | whoa, that' s almost too awesome to be true. Gonna releaste the map? :D |
| 15:03.59 | Kueken | its not in a readable format at all xD |
| 15:04.17 | Kueken | maybe, at some point |
| 15:05.15 | Kueken | also, it requires custom textures and in some cases models, so its not that easy to implement for most models |
| 15:05.23 | ducky | it's good as long as it will be released.. even better with tutorial :D for some reason I thought of AOS2 :D |
| 15:05.32 | Kueken | :) |
| 15:07.48 | Ahli | are you adding different textures to something with the sliders or how are you changing e.g. the clowing color? |
| 15:07.53 | Ahli | *glowing |
| 15:09.13 | Vailreth | i want to know how too |
| 15:09.16 | Ahli | what's that AoS 2 thing, ducky? I've never seen anything about it, but people seem to know it :S |
| 15:10.53 | Kueken | I change Team Color |
| 15:11.12 | Kueken | Team Colors have a difuse and an emissive part you can change separately |
| 15:11.33 | Kueken | if the models and textures are set up correctly |
| 15:11.51 | Kueken | you can make them show the changes |
| 15:12.10 | ducky | It's just that.. a project some people do until the end of times :D .. I just think that it'll be very cool since I liked originalAOS and disliked dota.. so for some reason when I saw that thing I thought "it would be so cool to have this customization in a team based moba game" xD |
| 15:12.11 | Kueken | it is limited to 2 sets of changes |
| 15:14.16 | Vailreth | isee |
| 15:14.25 | Ahli | how do you change the second color? one is team color and the other one? |
| 15:15.32 | Kueken | check the Set Team Color actor message |
| 15:15.37 | Kueken | it allows for 2 color changes |
| 15:16.19 | Kueken | Team Color is great for this, because unlike for tint color, you can actually define, which areas of the model should be affected by it |
| 15:18.12 | Vailreth | Kueken even limited to two sets of changes this is epic... |
| 15:18.48 | Kueken | yeah, I think, its pretty cool as well |
| 15:19.13 | Kueken | you could also provide some texture alternative to provide additional variations, if you want |
| 15:20.08 | Vailreth | indeed |
| 15:22.29 | Vailreth | i tryed to retexture the Targeting drone placement model because its soo cool but it didnt work out |
| 15:22.57 | Kueken | as in it looked ugly or you didn't get it to work? |
| 15:23.26 | Vailreth | i couldnt get a good UVW unwrap.. |
| 15:23.42 | Kueken | heh... |
| 15:23.44 | Vailreth | it needed to be reunwrapped and |
| 15:23.48 | Kueken | no idea what that means |
| 15:24.27 | Vailreth | basically i needed to take all of the faces of the model and flatten them out into a paintable file |
| 15:24.37 | Kueken | ah |
| 16:05.49 | JademusSreg | Pew pew |
| 16:06.39 | Kueken | omg, its a Jade |
| 16:09.32 | JademusSreg | faints. |
| 16:16.54 | Kueken | Jade, take a look |
| 16:16.55 | Kueken | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbwLcCYLoRw |
| 16:17.04 | Kueken | I am so glad, it finally works :D |
| 16:17.41 | JademusSreg | Kueken, that is sweet. |
| 16:17.48 | JademusSreg | Reminds me of the army painter from DoW. |
| 16:18.24 | Kueken | yes indeed :D |
| 16:18.32 | Kueken | my first thought as well |
| 16:19.10 | JademusSreg | Precisely the sort of thing I'd want to use in Koprulu Factions, if I were make a project out of it. |
| 16:20.46 | JademusSreg | More ideas than time. =D |
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| 16:33.36 | Ahli | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JU088ZMfCFI |
| 16:36.23 | Dustin | mornin! |
| 16:59.43 | JademusSreg | Good pewning. |
| 17:12.56 | Ashamed | good pewning... really jade |
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| 17:59.00 | Ashamed | erggg lunch please come!! |
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| 18:08.11 | Krill_ | hi |
| 18:09.14 | Krillt | I'm trying to implement a squad-based mechanic... |
| 18:09.19 | Krillt | But... keep it purely data related |
| 18:11.26 | Ashamed | FUUUUUUUUUUUU MICROSOFT |
| 18:11.51 | Krillt | So, for example, instead of training one marine, you train a Marine Squad, and you get 5 (or 7 or 9 etc) Marine Actors all behaving as one unit |
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| 18:15.27 | Zanam | no idea how to do that krillt... maybe attach the actors to the unit, have events trigger on the unit's orders to replicate it's facing and animations? |
| 18:16.12 | Krillt | Yeah, that's how I'm thinking of going about it... |
| 18:16.23 | Dustin | Sooo this houndsofbasker guy is a fucking douchebag |
| 18:16.50 | Vailreth | i was thinking it could be done with both actors and behaviors |
| 18:17.27 | Kueken | Afaik there are several squad systems already out there |
| 18:17.28 | Dustin | Have 1 main unit and have a behavior that makes other units around it that follow the unit and attack shit it attacks |
| 18:17.33 | Kueken | could have a lok at these |
| 18:17.39 | Kueken | *look |
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| 18:21.25 | MindWorX | Bibendus |
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| 18:34.07 | Mexa | Hey Jademus? |
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| 18:40.22 | Bounty | Hay Guyz |
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| 18:44.09 | Zanam | woohoo! got my bank system saving and under 8k characters. |
| 18:44.14 | Zanam | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.41 | Bounty | Mexa |
| 18:49.48 | Bounty | Can you check Photon Discs popularity on EU for me? :) |
| 18:49.59 | Mexa | Alright |
| 18:51.28 | Zanam | i havent got a chance to play it yet, been wanting to |
| 18:51.32 | Zanam | saw it on page 3 or 4 the other day |
| 18:51.38 | Bounty | on EU? |
| 18:51.41 | ducky | 62h, page 5 of All category bounty |
| 18:51.51 | Bounty | nice, not to shabby |
| 18:52.05 | Bounty | Yeah its on Page 3 on US Zanam |
| 18:52.28 | Mexa | Was about t say it, but oh well. |
| 18:52.31 | Zanam | good work from what i saw on the mapster news |
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| 19:01.21 | Krillt | @Bounty: Personal preference... I'd much rather it was top-down/isometric / regular SC2 camera, than the pseudo-3rd person shooter |
| 19:01.53 | Krillt | From the video it seemed too hard to judge distances and the collision didn't seem so tidy. |
| 19:02.03 | Krillt | But, heh, this is coming from someone who loved Warlocks back in war3 |
| 19:03.44 | Bounty | Just watched a video of someone on medium settings |
| 19:03.50 | Bounty | My God the floor looked retarded |
| 19:03.52 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:07.13 | Mexa | Played a round Bounty |
| 19:07.18 | Mexa | ¨That was pretty fun |
| 19:07.48 | Mexa | It was only a little annoying that the wall gets in front of the camera when you're too far near the edge of the map. |
| 19:07.48 | Bounty | How many players? |
| 19:07.52 | Mexa | 2on2 |
| 19:08.00 | Bounty | >< |
| 19:08.10 | Mexa | I know, 4on4 is probably better:P |
| 19:09.28 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6qAejRRnbw |
| 19:09.31 | Bounty | I cannot figure out |
| 19:09.34 | Mexa | The so called lagless input system you say you have. It's still with delay, but you manage to compensate for it. |
| 19:09.37 | Bounty | Why all the impact effects are so big |
| 19:09.38 | Mexa | *one manage |
| 19:09.42 | Bounty | For the guy playing in that video |
| 19:09.44 | Bounty | makes no sense |
| 19:09.51 | JademusSreg | Pew pew |
| 19:09.59 | Bounty | Watch taht video Jade |
| 19:10.05 | Bounty | Look at how big the impact effects are |
| 19:10.08 | Bounty | Why is it doing that? lol |
| 19:10.47 | Mexa | Bounty, you didn't modify how the data is differing depending on graphical settnigs, I suppose. |
| 19:11.00 | Bounty | ? |
| 19:11.15 | JademusSreg | Don't you love low graphic settings? Hahaha |
| 19:11.17 | Bounty | How would graphic settings being lower make the models bigger though? lol |
| 19:11.23 | Mexa | Actors are asyncronous, they display differently depending on the computer due to the graphics settings. |
| 19:11.43 | Mexa | Might be a preset that some actors are. |
| 19:12.47 | JademusSreg | Might be model swapping. |
| 19:13.24 | Mexa | Bouny, also did you say that your ranking system was unhackable? |
| 19:13.33 | Bounty | no |
| 19:13.39 | Bounty | Who said i said that? |
| 19:13.40 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:13.46 | MindWorX | My game is unhackable! :D |
| 19:13.51 | Mexa | I recall you said that in this cht a few days ago |
| 19:13.58 | Bounty | No |
| 19:14.03 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 19:14.07 | JademusSreg | You have no game! |
| 19:14.09 | Bounty | I said it has a signature, so that the average person wont know how to do it |
| 19:14.11 | MindWorX | Exactly! :D |
| 19:16.37 | Bounty | It looks like its when the discs die |
| 19:16.41 | Bounty | When the big model hits |
| 19:23.14 | Bounty | Any idae JademusSreg? |
| 19:23.32 | JademusSreg | My first suspect would be the actor. |
| 19:23.48 | Bounty | yeah but what in the actor changes the size of the death model ol |
| 19:24.05 | JademusSreg | Naw, I mean I suspect a model swap from the actor. |
| 19:24.17 | Bounty | its the same model though |
| 19:24.19 | Bounty | just huge |
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| 19:25.36 | JademusSreg | I don't have the editor open, atm, but I suspect it is a different model. |
| 19:25.48 | JademusSreg | Either that, or you're scaling from the actor. |
| 19:26.23 | JademusSreg | (Rather than from the model.) |
| 19:26.38 | Bounty | i am scaling from the model |
| 19:27.27 | JademusSreg | Hmmmm. |
| 19:29.10 | JademusSreg | I've never seen this issue before. The only explanation I can think of offhand is that the actor is model swapping or otherwise specifying a low-graphic settings alternative. |
| 19:29.23 | Bounty | but its the same model |
| 19:29.26 | Bounty | just bigger |
| 19:29.33 | Bounty | i just tested it, it happens when u use Low Model settings |
| 19:29.47 | Bounty | im adding a disclaimer to the main menu now lol |
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| 19:31.03 | JademusSreg | Haha |
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| 19:32.56 | Zanam | Bounty, so is there a way to make a bank fully unbreakable? |
| 19:33.25 | Bounty | doubt it |
| 19:33.47 | Bounty | If ppl really go through the trouble to hack the signature on my bank just to get a meaningless rank |
| 19:33.53 | Bounty | Its their loss |
| 19:33.54 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:33.59 | Zanam | the signature, what all does it do? |
| 19:34.13 | Zanam | is it like a checksum function? |
| 19:34.50 | Bounty | no idea what it does |
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| 19:35.00 | Bounty | but i know u cant just edit the bank without hackign the signature |
| 19:35.15 | Zanam | so, a signature plus an encrypted bank should do the trick |
| 19:35.25 | Bounty | nope |
| 19:35.31 | Bounty | someone will always hack it |
| 19:35.46 | Zanam | i think i can make one fairly difficult to figure out |
| 19:36.12 | Mexa | It's a checksum |
| 19:36.47 | Mexa | Combined with the map name, player author, and the player himself, and the data inside the bank |
| 19:36.47 | Bounty | Just added my disclaimer Jade lol |
| 19:36.51 | Mexa | Something like that |
| 19:36.51 | Bounty | All you need is |
| 19:36.56 | Bounty | Terrain - High,Ultra |
| 19:36.59 | Bounty | Models - High |
| 19:37.02 | Bounty | and Reflections on |
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| 19:40.26 | Krillt | hmm |
| 19:40.32 | Krillt | trigger event - Unit Is Selected... |
| 19:40.52 | Krillt | Doesn't fire if a unit is selected through the UI? (ie: where the selection of currently selected units is shown) |
| 19:40.53 | Mexa | https://bitbucket.org/BlueRaja/starbank/src/d807df2045df/StarBank/Bank%20Stuffs/BankSignatureGenerator.cs |
| 19:41.00 | Mexa | And there it is. |
| 19:41.03 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 19:41.50 | Bounty | One day |
| 19:41.57 | Bounty | When the internet is less anon |
| 19:42.04 | Bounty | Shit like that wont happen ever again |
| 19:42.11 | Bounty | Hacker piece of shit lol |
| 19:42.31 | Mexa | Report the author and the source code, if you wish then. |
| 19:44.21 | Mexa | But yeah .-. |
| 19:45.52 | Bounty | I dont understand why someone would make a hack that targets people who make free content for people to enjoy |
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| 19:47.21 | Mexa | As much as people make hacks to cheat in ladder? |
| 19:48.21 | Mexa | Yeah, I don't know why. Reverse engineering is exciting at times actually, but I wouldn't then ruin the game further by exploiting what I find. |
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| 19:49.13 | Mexa | Bounty, ask some hacker instead .-. |
| 19:49.20 | Bounty | no thanks |
| 19:49.23 | Bounty | He will prolly hack me |
| 19:50.09 | Mexa | Meh, that people figure out one thing or two about a game would not equal to that person knowing everything about security holes in operating systems. |
| 19:50.10 | MindWorX | I hack stuff for the challenge. |
| 19:50.25 | MindWorX | Though what I do is mostly white-hat bordering gray-hat. |
| 19:50.31 | MindWorX | Nothing black-hat'ish. |
| 19:50.51 | Mexa | pats Mindy on the head. |
| 19:51.02 | MindWorX | purrs like a retarded dandelion. |
| 19:51.22 | Mexa | lol |
| 19:51.28 | Mexa | A retarded flower huh? |
| 19:51.31 | MindWorX | Indeed. |
| 19:51.33 | MindWorX | That purrs. |
| 19:51.38 | MindWorX | Who would've imagined. |
| 19:51.39 | Mexa | :p |
| 19:52.10 | Mexa | I did just now though:p |
| 19:52.20 | MindWorX | It looks fun no? |
| 19:52.34 | Mexa | Well.. it looks retarded, what can I say? |
| 19:52.39 | MindWorX | True. |
| 19:52.57 | Mexa | And alone. |
| 19:53.07 | Mexa | derpderderp |
| 19:53.15 | MindWorX | So I just saw this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntIFhbtmwCc |
| 19:53.34 | MindWorX | Makes me wanna watch MLP. I'm ashamed. |
| 19:53.57 | Mexa | :P |
| 19:54.20 | MindWorX | Speaking of retarded of course... :P |
| 19:54.23 | Mexa | Oh, to be honest, I watched a bunch of the original episodes before, last year. |
| 19:54.35 | Mexa | Lost interest now, lol. |
| 19:55.19 | MindWorX | The video will start causing seizures around the two minute mark. |
| 19:55.35 | Mexa | I do see that:P |
| 19:59.28 | Xapti_ | yeah bounty the ground being blue is from terrain being set to medium or lower from what I remember |
| 19:59.39 | Bounty | Yeah i just updated |
| 19:59.41 | Bounty | with a disclaimer |
| 19:59.43 | Deaod | shitty remix of OZone? |
| 19:59.47 | Xapti_ | or whatever had water reflection |
| 20:00.13 | Bounty | Most people should be able to run the map with Terrain on High + |
| 20:00.19 | Bounty | and Models on High aswell |
| 20:00.29 | Xapti_ | the models being extralarge might be due to te low quality models being larger for some reason (maybe not being scaled down if the other models are scaled down) |
| 20:00.34 | MindWorX | Deaod, Sounds like it. :P |
| 20:01.01 | Xapti_ | but I thought low quality models only applise to death animations |
| 20:01.11 | Bounty | well thats what it is |
| 20:01.15 | Bounty | its when the disc dies |
| 20:01.15 | Xapti_ | oh but that's the problem right |
| 20:01.26 | Bounty | but i have it set so have no low quality model |
| 20:01.39 | Xapti_ | oh |
| 20:01.58 | Deaod | Mindy, have some more seizures: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wytn-_MSBo |
| 20:02.02 | Mexa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A67ZkAd1wmI gets kind of dizzy when the roof is bouncing like that :o |
| 20:02.16 | Xapti_ | maybe there's an actor event or something that's causing it to display? |
| 20:02.24 | Bounty | *shrug* |
| 20:02.26 | Bounty | its the right model |
| 20:02.26 | Mexa | Haha Deaod, that one is great. |
| 20:02.27 | Bounty | just bigger |
| 20:02.28 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:03.05 | MindWorX | Deaod, That's... freaky. :P |
| 20:04.18 | Deaod | should i continue? |
| 20:04.32 | MindWorX | Being freaky? :P |
| 20:04.36 | Deaod | ive got a few more freaky vids` |
| 20:05.03 | Mexa | You could go on with the featured video from there. |
| 20:05.15 | Mexa | *from trololo. |
| 20:05.48 | Deaod | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0-2lzA7_Cg - Vegetable Juice is good for you. |
| 20:07.05 | Deaod | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTKPcrPmgPI -- not seizure inducing, though i have no fucking clue whats going on. |
| 20:07.40 | Deaod | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8coX8VkUKY8 -- from the maker of rainbow trololol |
| 20:08.10 | Deaod | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MTLtt7pWKc |
| 20:08.29 | Deaod | the original video isnt much better |
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| 20:08.55 | Deaod | Jade shared it a few months ago |
| 20:09.08 | Deaod | (the original video) |
| 20:09.29 | Mexa | You missed one:P |
| 20:09.29 | Deaod | seriously, the worlds full of crazy stuff. |
| 20:09.40 | Deaod | hm? |
| 20:09.43 | Mexa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssh71hePR8Q |
| 20:11.39 | MindWorX | I like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFM140rju4k |
| 20:11.46 | MindWorX | Also pretty cool work |
| 20:11.54 | Deaod | agreed. |
| 20:12.16 | Mexa | Oh yeah, I heard that one before |
| 20:13.20 | Xapti_ | lol this is the first time I've seen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GggY4TEYbk |
| 20:13.37 | Deaod | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWRyj5cHIQA |
| 20:13.39 | Xapti_ | I guess I've seen the thumbnail many many times but never actually clicked it |
| 20:13.56 | Xapti_ | (err this one's the original http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp) |
| 20:14.25 | Xapti_ | *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ5LpwO-An4 |
| 20:14.38 | Deaod | related: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV6puTS14Ho |
| 20:14.54 | Xapti_ | oh yeah that ones really good |
| 20:15.06 | Xapti_ | I almost pissed myself when I saw that played on TV |
| 20:15.29 | Xapti_ | (the remixed version was used as a commercial) |
| 20:16.09 | Mexa | haha, nice, I've only seen slapchop there. |
| 20:16.14 | Mexa | *before |
| 20:16.58 | Xapti_ | yeah the slapchop one i meant |
| 20:19.09 | Deaod | anyway, im sure theres a lot more crazy stuff out there than what ive posted here. |
| 20:19.26 | Deaod | and i either cant remember it or dont know about it. |
| 20:19.31 | MindWorX | http://jsfiddle.net/ctrlfrk/hNaYu/103/ |
| 20:21.10 | Mexa | :o? |
| 20:21.24 | MindWorX | You can do some funky stuff in JS. :P |
| 20:21.30 | Xapti_ | The Golden Age of Video — didn't have star trek 1 or TNG |
| 20:21.54 | Xapti_ | probably should have been on there |
| 20:23.21 | Mexa | Pretty, Mindy |
| 20:23.36 | Mexa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wDlJzP8KsE&hd=1 falls under random too, I guess. |
| 20:25.53 | Deaod | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWcbj7ksqwE -- 4K demo |
| 20:26.00 | Xapti_ | I remembre seeing must be liek 6-7 years ago now |
| 20:26.06 | Xapti_ | *seeing that |
| 20:26.13 | Xapti_ | when I played FFR |
| 20:27.38 | MindWorX | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohrel37KKd0 |
| 20:28.16 | Xapti_ | I never realized though — that's a 512K demo? |
| 20:28.35 | Deaod | btw, 4K refers to the size of the final executable. Yes, that whole video can be generated from 4096 Byte |
| 20:29.14 | MindWorX | There's that 3d game thingy that's generated from nearly no data too. |
| 20:29.50 | MindWorX | Something with a k in the name... |
| 20:29.51 | JademusSreg | Deaod, nice pony cover of I'm On Crack. |
| 20:29.52 | MindWorX | German |
| 20:30.18 | Deaod | kkrieger |
| 20:30.23 | MindWorX | Exactly! |
| 20:30.26 | MindWorX | Impressive stuff. |
| 20:30.29 | Deaod | 96KB FPS |
| 20:32.56 | Xapti_ | yeah i remember playing that |
| 20:33.14 | Xapti_ | most out of place thing was the sound |
| 20:33.19 | Xapti_ | felt kinda disjoined |
| 20:34.33 | MindWorX | I don't think you're allowed to be picky about a 96KB game. :P |
| 20:34.49 | Xapti_ | man separate EXEs for different reses? that sucks |
| 20:35.11 | Xapti_ | they don't have any high-res non-widescreen options |
| 20:35.12 | Deaod | for a 4K demo? |
| 20:35.24 | JademusSreg | Gotta love the demoscene. |
| 20:35.34 | Deaod | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH03IcqBwzo -- indeed. |
| 20:35.47 | Xapti_ | Just have a separate exe or batch file to configure resolution and such |
| 20:36.40 | Xapti_ | ned to have more res options |
| 20:38.30 | Xapti_ | So hard to actually run the demos on your own machine though |
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| 20:39.04 | Xapti_ | I had most success when I had an old PC, although even then lots of the newer ones wouldn't display properly or not run at all |
| 20:39.47 | Xapti_ | compressed video never does these things justice at all |
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| 20:54.56 | Krillt | haaah |
| 20:54.57 | Krillt | fuck yes. |
| 20:55.32 | Krillt | Was looking at the most complicated, convoluted and longwinded 'Squad System'.... had a eureka and now i've got something that works infinitely better, and it took seconds :) |
| 20:55.53 | Krillt | time to do more testing... |
| 20:55.57 | Krillt | then dust off the old fraps |
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| 21:31.20 | Vailreth | Krillt: how are you doing your squad system> |
| 21:31.35 | Krillt | Through guile and secrecy. |
| 21:31.44 | Vailreth | hah |
| 21:32.04 | Krillt | ironing out minor bugs, adding functionality, will fraps a playable demo sometime this week. |
| 21:32.18 | Vailreth | hmm |
| 21:32.25 | Krillt | blank map into theorycrafting into concept testing leaves a lot of work to be done before anything is 'playable'. |
| 21:33.22 | Krillt | For the most part, it works. I train a unit, I issue orders to that unit - but I see 5 units trained, and 5 units carrying out those orders, and 5 units dying, individually, taking damage, individually etc |
| 21:34.12 | Krillt | The downside is, it just plays like Starcraft 2 (right now). I'm adding some combat mechanics on top of it, to simulate more of a Warhammer 40k 'feel'. |
| 21:36.07 | Vailreth | meh |
| 21:36.35 | Vailreth | if i want WH40K ill play it ... |
| 21:37.20 | Vailreth | sorry not trying to disuade you |
| 21:37.48 | Vailreth | i had a CnC style map in the works back in the day |
| 21:38.10 | Currydevil | I need suggestions for a model to hide my stratego pieces with |
| 21:38.23 | Currydevil | startego* |
| 21:38.26 | Vailreth | a wall |
| 21:38.31 | Currydevil | -.- |
| 21:38.35 | MindWorX | Vailreth, Seems like an odd argument to not make a map. :P Wouldn't that go for every single genre there is? |
| 21:38.47 | Krillt | Vailreth - i'm not recreating WH40k, it was horrible. |
| 21:38.51 | MindWorX | If I wanted to play an AoS I'd just play League of Legends or one of the other clones? :P |
| 21:38.53 | Vailreth | ah |
| 21:39.06 | MindWorX | If I wanted to play and RPG, I'd just play Diablo? |
| 21:39.08 | Vailreth | its not an argument not to make the map |
| 21:39.17 | MindWorX | Let's stop modding SC2 and just play melee. :D |
| 21:39.28 | Vailreth | its a vauge satement of my disintereste in the style |
| 21:39.33 | MindWorX | JademusSreg! |
| 21:39.39 | MindWorX | You must join the movement! |
| 21:39.48 | Ahli | if you want to play diablo, you just play my map. it's simple as that ;D |
| 21:39.53 | MindWorX | Take down light cycles! There is already a Tron game with them. :D |
| 21:40.01 | Vailreth | oh brother |
| 21:40.45 | Vailreth | i wasnt trying to to get him to not make the map..i even aplogized for seeming that way if i did |
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| 21:40.59 | MindWorX | I know. I'm just fucking around. |
| 21:41.05 | MindWorX | See, I'm a bit of a weird person. |
| 21:41.23 | Vailreth | ah |
| 21:42.08 | Vailreth | if i added a leader board and a finished round system my map would be nearly playable |
| 21:43.12 | Currydevil | nearly! |
| 21:43.29 | Vailreth | indeed |
| 21:43.54 | JademusSreg | ??? |
| 21:44.23 | JademusSreg | I'm willing to play melee with friends. =D |
| 21:44.37 | JademusSreg | Not interested in dedicated huge chunks of time to ladder, though. |
| 21:44.44 | JademusSreg | *dedicating |
| 21:45.02 | Krillt | so now you're just plat. |
| 21:45.28 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 21:45.42 | Krillt | Nevermind. :) |
| 21:45.54 | Vailreth | i got it |
| 21:46.03 | Vailreth | i love that song by the way |
| 21:46.08 | Krillt | If I use a create persistent effect to search 'in a line', from a unit. Is that line related to the 'facing' of the unit? |
| 21:46.35 | Currydevil | depends on the first offset you give it. |
| 21:46.35 | Vaer | yes it is |
| 21:46.44 | Vaer | but there is a flag that u can change |
| 21:46.47 | Vaer | so that it isnt |
| 21:46.56 | Krillt | Hmm, interesting. |
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| 21:47.42 | Vaer | and just to throw this out there since i dont know what u are doing |
| 21:47.47 | Krillt | Going to create doodads/units which act as 'cover', so, in the simplest sense, they are Neutral Sentry's with Guardian Shield activated - but I'd like the areas to be more controlled, ie, not a Circle(radius 4) for example. |
| 21:48.03 | Vaer | why not add a search effect to a periodic behaviour |
| 21:48.15 | Vaer | attach the behaviour to a missile |
| 21:48.24 | Vaer | and use the missile and a mover to search in a line |
| 21:48.32 | Krillt | Because I'm not necessarily going to be searching in a line, more of an arc. |
| 21:48.57 | Vaer | there are many reasons to do it your way |
| 21:49.01 | Vaer | just throwing it out there |
| 21:49.02 | Vaer | lol |
| 21:53.41 | Mexa | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/brain |
| 21:56.30 | Xapti_ | yeah I would want to implement arc-type searching as well |
| 21:56.32 | Currydevil | interesting. |
| 21:56.40 | Currydevil | @Mexa |
| 21:56.43 | Xapti_ | line-bassed is confusing enough though |
| 21:57.02 | Xapti_ | well not so much confusing as difficult towork with |
| 21:57.40 | Vaer | use persistant offsets |
| 21:57.43 | Vaer | learn to maths |
| 21:57.46 | Vaer | problem solve |
| 21:57.48 | Vaer | d |
| 21:58.58 | Vaer | if your arc has a radius of 7 |
| 21:59.39 | Vaer | and u want a point that is 30 degrees from your origin |
| 21:59.44 | JademusSreg | bbl |
| 22:00.04 | Vaer | Cos(30)*7=x |
| 22:00.15 | Vaer | Sin(30)*7=y |
| 22:00.45 | Xapti_ | well it's actually parabolic not circular |
| 22:01.13 | Vaer | so change the radius -_- |
| 22:02.42 | Xapti_ | well parabolas technically don't have radiuses, and the height would be always variable |
| 22:03.23 | Vaer | impossible when u are using fixed points |
| 22:03.27 | Vaer | you would have to use a mover |
| 22:03.38 | Xapti_ | yeah I am using ballistic mover |
| 22:04.14 | Mexa | "This has been sitting on the counter for a while. Are you sure I won’t get a virus if I put it in my slot?" — A client asking about a CD she left out for a few days |
| 22:04.16 | Mexa | :D |
| 22:04.36 | Currydevil | lmao |
| 22:04.58 | Xapti_ | hahaha |
| 22:05.03 | Mexa | http://clientsfromhell.net so much fun to read those:p |
| 22:05.13 | Vaer | did u face palm and walk away? or were u polite? |
| 22:05.19 | Ahli | http://sclegacy.com/editorials/7-reviews/1134-scl-reviews-wings-of-liberty#The%20Prophecy |
| 22:05.30 | Mexa | ;) Vaer, it wasn't mine |
| 22:05.32 | Xapti_ | wasn't him, he just |
| 22:05.33 | Vaer | oh i seeeeee |
| 22:06.23 | Xapti_ | Battle of Amerigo is the best video eer |
| 22:10.37 | Xapti_ | man that's a huge article but seems quite agreeable |
| 22:16.41 | Currydevil | http://i.imgur.com/9Qw9i.jpg not sure which model to use as the facade |
| 22:20.21 | ducky | Ah, interesting, and since it's review by Gradius who as far as I know also thinks that WOL was a complete mess lore-wise It should be an enjoyable read :D thanks Ahli! |
| 22:21.37 | Ahli | browsing teamliquid ftw ;D |
| 22:30.01 | Currydevil | Hmm, i don't like any of those models really. |
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| 22:50.01 | Taintedwisp | Hey how would I split the Terrain and the data? |
| 22:50.08 | Taintedwisp | I want a different file for each |
| 22:50.12 | Currydevil | mod file |
| 22:50.22 | Currydevil | for data |
| 22:50.23 | Taintedwisp | kk thanks |
| 22:50.39 | Currydevil | you can create a new file as a mod |
| 22:50.46 | Taintedwisp | wait is there a way to Reset all data to default? |
| 22:50.52 | Currydevil | um |
| 22:51.11 | Taintedwisp | I want to send my terrain to someone for advice to make it better :D |
| 22:51.16 | Currydevil | not without picking each item you've modified and removing/resetting it. |
| 22:51.27 | Taintedwisp | alright thanks |
| 22:51.29 | Currydevil | unless I don't know of something. |
| 22:52.03 | Taintedwisp | Okay I know how to do it |
| 22:52.37 | Taintedwisp | I can hgihlight Multiple |
| 22:53.33 | Currydevil | I need a good model idea (besides a wall) for a board game piece |
| 22:53.42 | Currydevil | or in this case, a facade to hide my pieces |
| 22:54.31 | Taintedwisp | You can actually use a 2d picture |
| 22:54.33 | Taintedwisp | you know that right? |
| 22:54.41 | Taintedwisp | and it will stand stright up |
| 22:54.45 | Taintedwisp | strait |
| 22:54.56 | Currydevil | Would rather keep it 3d |
| 22:55.00 | Taintedwisp | :D |
| 22:55.07 | Currydevil | if i can. which I will. |
| 22:55.20 | Taintedwisp | Hmm, There are alot of different walls in the doodads, maybe you can find one you like? |
| 22:55.21 | Currydevil | I have an idea now, i'm poking through the placement models for protoss buildings. |
| 22:56.32 | Currydevil | pylon placement looks good. |
| 23:00.18 | Zanam | you could do race specifics |
| 23:00.45 | Currydevil | Could, but all the pieces are terran besides 1 |
| 23:00.51 | Zanam | like each of the 13? units are a race unit, their wall is a pylon/spire/something terrany |
| 23:07.46 | Taintedwisp | on a scale from 1-10 hows my terrain? |
| 23:07.48 | Taintedwisp | http://picpaste.com/thumbs/Terrain_007-xrUcDI48.1334704009.jpg |
| 23:08.57 | Currydevil | 6-7, what's it for? |
| 23:08.59 | Zanam | looks like a minigame |
| 23:09.05 | Zanam | in which case about a 7. |
| 23:12.38 | Kueken | for me its a 404 scale o_0 |
| 23:15.40 | Currydevil | http://i.imgur.com/Z12Ly.jpg |
| 23:15.58 | Currydevil | player 1 won't be able to see his pylon models |
| 23:17.24 | Taintedwisp | If you are trying to Hide units, Im sure theres a way to hide a model from Player 2 that Player 1 owns |
| 23:17.32 | Kueken | your stratego, I assume? |
| 23:17.36 | Currydevil | I've already hidden the units. |
| 23:17.39 | Currydevil | Yes |
| 23:17.40 | Taintedwisp | oh law |
| 23:18.06 | Currydevil | I will need to hide the models now. But this time i need to hide player 1 model from player1. |
| 23:18.52 | Kueken | well, if you did hide vial filter before, you can do that the same way |
| 23:18.57 | Kueken | *via |
| 23:19.14 | Currydevil | I didn't use filters for the units though |
| 23:19.24 | Currydevil | I just did the cloaked bahavior with bury enabled |
| 23:19.31 | Kueken | yes, unit actors don;t support them |
| 23:19.56 | Kueken | you can use an invisible unit, attach the actual unit model and use filters on that |
| 23:20.15 | Kueken | hell, you don't even need units :D |
| 23:20.23 | Currydevil | the actual pieces are visible for the owner. |
| 23:20.33 | Currydevil | now i am just needing to attach a visible model for the enemy |
| 23:20.38 | Kueken | ah |
| 23:20.43 | Kueken | thats easier |
| 23:20.50 | Kueken | filters work for that |
| 23:21.14 | Currydevil | I mean, I can leave it like this, since the models themselves are transparent to a degree, but I think it is a little distracting with the pulsing light that gows down the model lol |
| 23:21.37 | Kueken | :) |
| 23:21.56 | Taintedwisp | Awesome Got my Bunker Top |
| 23:22.01 | Currydevil | But yeah, all I have to do now is attach a model to the unit and set it's filter right? |
| 23:22.07 | Kueken | yes |
| 23:22.10 | Currydevil | ok |
| 23:23.01 | Kueken | and make sure, it does not inherit visibility or cloak effect |
| 23:23.02 | Currydevil | ok |
| 23:23.02 | Currydevil | yeah |
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| 23:23.05 | Currydevil | Ok, another problem I seem to have encountered |
| 23:23.20 | Currydevil | I am making text tages for the owner to see on their units showing the unit rank |
| 23:23.36 | Currydevil | but they are not showing up |
| 23:23.40 | Currydevil | I think I might have done them wrong. |
| 23:23.48 | Taintedwisp | Bounty you there? |
| 23:23.57 | Currydevil | Flyingspatula just had this problem the other day and i don't remember how he fixed it lol |
| 23:24.23 | Taintedwisp | Well imma go play some Pokemon Battle. |
| 23:27.17 | Bounty | Taintedwisp, you rang |
| 23:27.24 | Currydevil | he's gone now |
| 23:27.31 | Zanam | you ever look at how you structured something |
| 23:27.41 | Zanam | and thought "what was i smoking when i thought that up |
| 23:27.58 | Currydevil | http://i.imgur.com/Z12Ly.jpg What do you think of the visuals bounty? except the red pylon model |
| 23:29.23 | Zanam | what did you use for the grid? |
| 23:29.32 | Currydevil | doodads |
| 23:29.44 | Currydevil | the white line decal |
| 23:30.22 | Zanam | wish i saw that earlier. systems in place now... using shape-square units stretched reeeeally thin |
| 23:30.34 | Zanam | but no sense in redoing it now |
| 23:30.43 | Currydevil | yeah, these ones are stretched. |
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| 23:34.21 | Currydevil | JademusSreg: you solved that silly text tag issue for flying the other day, and I don't recall how and now I need the fix =P lol |
| 23:39.25 | Kueken | heh |
| 23:40.23 | Currydevil | I'm trying to hide text tags |
| 23:40.34 | Currydevil | but it's not working. |
| 23:46.38 | JademusSreg | Pew pew |
| 23:46.55 | JademusSreg | Show me ze code. =D |
| 23:49.44 | Currydevil | http://pastebin.com/wNP0uwM0 |
| 23:51.46 | JademusSreg | And in which player slot are you? |
| 23:51.59 | Currydevil | 1 |
| 23:52.24 | JademusSreg | And you're hiding it for Player group(2). |
| 23:52.45 | Currydevil | player 2 yes |
| 23:53.13 | JademusSreg | Can you show me the galaxy script? |
| 23:53.26 | JademusSreg | I have a suspicion, but am not certain. |
| 23:56.52 | Currydevil | does enabling/disabling an action affect whether or not it shows in script? |
| 23:57.50 | Currydevil | it does, nvm |
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| 23:58.10 | Currydevil | http://pastebin.com/fZdhiJHF |
| 23:58.23 | DarkOrbis | hi |
