| 00:00.13 | Bounty | Just join us in channel "Photon Discs" to participate |
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| 00:06.45 | flyingspatula | can u change the font in a map? |
| 00:06.48 | flyingspatula | font type |
| 00:09.23 | Ahli | yes |
| 00:10.05 | flyingspatula | hwo do i do that |
| 00:11.36 | Ahli | in short: import fonts to map, create a SC2Style file with custom style using these fonts, import that style file, add style file in game settings in data. in long: search on mapster for SC2Style |
| 00:11.58 | flyingspatula | haha yeah |
| 00:12.02 | flyingspatula | thx ill search fo rit |
| 00:12.59 | Bounty | Ahli |
| 00:13.04 | Bounty | You know you want in on the testathon tonight |
| 00:13.07 | Bounty | big update :) |
| 00:13.58 | Ahli | can I finish putting sitting skeletons next to walls before? |
| 00:15.02 | Bounty | if u want |
| 00:16.00 | Ahli | maybe offset 0.6 is enough... I will see now |
| 00:16.16 | Bounty | hosting a game right now |
| 00:16.18 | Bounty | anyone want in? |
| 00:16.21 | Bounty | team death match :) |
| 00:17.47 | Ahli | coming now |
| 00:19.29 | Bounty | What is your bnet name Ahli? i forgot |
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| 00:21.27 | ckSynergy | anyone run into problems when testing locally? I'm having some issues with me being a "local player" |
| 00:21.38 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 00:21.41 | ckSynergy | namely, it doesnt assign me to any team, thus my team assignment trigger fails |
| 00:22.09 | ckSynergy | Pick each player in (Team 1) should return computer 1 & local player |
| 00:22.16 | ckSynergy | Pick each in team 2 should return computer 2 |
| 00:22.34 | A1win | those are teams from the lobby |
| 00:22.51 | A1win | there's an "is test map" function somewhere |
| 00:22.56 | ckSynergy | same problem when I use "all players" |
| 00:23.15 | A1win | that shouldn't be a problem |
| 00:23.50 | A1win | well, depends on what you want it to return I guess |
| 00:23.51 | ckSynergy | well, it is lol |
| 00:24.01 | ckSynergy | actually, it causes my mod to not even run |
| 00:24.07 | A1win | but it behaves the same way in local and online games |
| 00:24.33 | A1win | the difference is that in local game you don't have the same number of players |
| 00:25.00 | A1win | I usually keep teams in separate player group variables and add the players to those variables on map initialization |
| 00:25.14 | ckSynergy | thats what im doing |
| 00:25.23 | A1win | if I need to locally test with multiple players, I just use "add player to player group" for all the empty slots |
| 00:25.26 | ckSynergy | or trying to do |
| 00:25.34 | ckSynergy | I just need to be able to test it lol |
| 00:25.57 | A1win | make a separate case for an online test and for a local test by checkin if the game is a test game or not |
| 00:26.00 | ckSynergy | basically, I have a dialog that Im trying to show the number of players in |
| 00:27.03 | ckSynergy | based on team |
| 00:27.48 | ckSynergy | and so far Ive tried about 10 different methods and none of the functions work, so I thought id ask how local player is assigned/works |
| 00:27.54 | flyingspatula | hey ahli do i need to download a specific layout file or can i just edit take it from the mpq and import |
| 00:28.45 | flyingspatula | man i so dont understand this layout crap at all |
| 00:30.55 | A1win | ckSynergy, just don't assign them by team in a local test, everything else should work |
| 00:31.13 | A1win | and if you need more than 1 plyer in a local test, you need to somehow add the extra players in |
| 00:31.55 | A1win | by either setting them as computer or just adding them into a player group you use |
| 00:32.21 | Ahli | http://pastebin.com/n8QeqeYK flyingpatula |
| 00:32.22 | ckSynergy | I think I got it with the test mode thing. we'll see. |
| 00:32.28 | Ahli | flyingspatula |
| 00:32.41 | flyingspatula | oh |
| 00:32.46 | flyingspatula | just that? |
| 00:32.55 | flyingspatula | i mean |
| 00:32.59 | flyingspatula | its just a textfile then? |
| 00:33.01 | flyingspatula | that u edit |
| 00:33.08 | ckSynergy | yea that'll do the trick |
| 00:33.34 | ckSynergy | Thanks A1 |
| 00:33.35 | Ahli | yes |
| 00:33.51 | ckSynergy | derp dammit |
| 00:35.25 | flyingspatula | what do i name it? |
| 00:35.54 | Ahli | the file? the file name doesn't care |
| 00:36.05 | flyingspatula | but |
| 00:36.08 | flyingspatula | is it pose to be a .txt? |
| 00:36.14 | Ahli | ah |
| 00:36.22 | Ahli | it has to be a .SC2Layout file |
| 00:36.23 | Ahli | no |
| 00:36.24 | flyingspatula | i swear ive read this tutorial thing but im so lost |
| 00:36.29 | Ahli | .SC2Style |
| 00:36.33 | flyingspatula | ok |
| 00:36.44 | Ahli | diabloBolt.sc2style that's my filename ;D |
| 00:36.58 | flyingspatula | ah ok lol |
| 00:37.02 | flyingspatula | i thot u said .sc2layout |
| 00:38.31 | flyingspatula | ok i really dont get it. lemme read this again |
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| 00:40.13 | flyingspatula | when it says import the custom layout file it dont say HOW to make one |
| 00:41.37 | flyingspatula | my file always saves as a txt |
| 00:41.40 | flyingspatula | how do u do an xml |
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| 00:43.21 | IskatuMesk | uMaD |
| 00:43.25 | egod | YES |
| 00:43.27 | egod | IM MAD |
| 00:44.12 | flyingspatula | what program do i need to make an xml file |
| 00:44.39 | flyingspatula | nvm |
| 00:47.38 | flyingspatula | whats better about hiding something with layout file |
| 00:47.42 | flyingspatula | than just ui trigger? |
| 00:48.48 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 00:49.20 | JademusSreg | <Visible value="false" /> |
| 01:05.22 | JademusSreg | http://fullyramblomatic-yahtzee.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/poach-harder.html |
| 01:10.47 | flyingspatula | friend just helped make that 3d ball |
| 01:10.50 | flyingspatula | bouncing shit |
| 01:15.59 | flyingspatula | the fuck how do u save an xml in notepad |
| 01:16.01 | flyingspatula | this guy does it on video |
| 01:27.37 | egod | will you guys move in Canada if i start a video game compagny ? your all hired |
| 01:27.54 | JademusSreg | *You're |
| 01:32.03 | flyingspatula | jade |
| 01:32.12 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 01:32.20 | flyingspatula | is there any reason for me to remove my ui crap for my tps in the layout file? |
| 01:32.28 | flyingspatula | than just hide ui in triggers |
| 01:33.08 | JademusSreg | Replays. |
| 01:33.17 | flyingspatula | what do ya mean |
| 01:33.56 | JademusSreg | When viewed from replays, trigger-hidden UI frames may not be hidden. |
| 01:34.02 | flyingspatula | ah ok |
| 01:34.10 | JademusSreg | And it's a matter of scope. |
| 01:34.13 | flyingspatula | right |
| 01:34.16 | flyingspatula | well |
| 01:34.23 | flyingspatula | its just the way u hit ur UI stuff on ur demo map |
| 01:34.25 | flyingspatula | was really weird |
| 01:34.32 | flyingspatula | theres liek 3 different types of ui hiding |
| 01:34.53 | JademusSreg | If you're refering to the very old map, yes. |
| 01:35.31 | JademusSreg | If you intend to ever use a given UI frame at all, you wouldn't hide it via layout modification. |
| 01:36.01 | flyingspatula | well |
| 01:36.14 | flyingspatula | my map is pretty much a tps so much of it will never be needed |
| 01:38.03 | flyingspatula | a replay could be kinda nice to have so if i made layout remove like |
| 01:38.24 | flyingspatula | remove gameUI? |
| 01:38.26 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 01:38.30 | flyingspatula | theres so many ui types |
| 01:38.34 | flyingspatula | battleui gameui etc |
| 01:38.54 | flyingspatula | then set screen mode |
| 01:42.42 | flyingspatula | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:42.52 | flyingspatula | gotta figure out in layout how to do fonts i guess |
| 01:42.59 | flyingspatula | and move chat to the side |
| 01:53.11 | Vailreth | bother' |
| 01:54.39 | flyingspatula | hey if i want to move mychatbox, would i open chatbar layout or something else |
| 01:57.43 | Vailreth | not a clue Flying |
| 01:57.55 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 02:02.18 | Ahli | you would write a sc2layout file that contains stuff which modifies original frames... a line that you want to use to modify the chat area is: |
| 02:02.19 | Ahli | <Frame type="MessageDisplay" name="GameUI/UIContainer/FullscreenUpperContainer/ChatDisplay" file="GameUI"> |
| 02:03.18 | Ahli | and then you add the changes like <Anchor side="Bottom" relative="$parent" pos="Max" offset="-170"/> inside that (this does not what you want to do, this moves the chat slightly more to the bottom of the screen) |
| 02:03.32 | Ahli | and then you close the frame with </Frame> |
| 02:04.09 | Ahli | content of a .SC2Layout file: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="yes"?> <Desc> WRITE ALL YOUR FRAME STUFF HERE </Desc> |
| 02:04.24 | JademusSreg | Example: http://pastebin.com/qB2xXtZr |
| 02:04.54 | JademusSreg | Also, if you've not seen Helral's tutorial on the "Aiur Chef Method", you should. =D |
| 02:05.36 | flyingspatula | thanks both of u |
| 02:05.40 | flyingspatula | yeah i looekd at aiur chef method |
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| 02:05.53 | flyingspatula | right now i wasnt loading the rightpahts n stuff i guess |
| 02:08.13 | Bounty | We're doing a new video tonight in hopes of going public beta for Photon Discs if anyone wants in |
| 02:14.13 | flyingspatula | oops my chatbox is gone lol |
| 02:16.21 | egod | 1 word |
| 02:16.24 | egod | trifaction |
| 02:17.03 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 02:17.41 | Bounty | egod |
| 02:17.44 | Bounty | come test out the new big update :) |
| 02:18.25 | Bounty | need 1 map |
| 02:18.27 | Bounty | more* |
| 02:20.13 | Bounty | Need 1 more for Photon Discs Team Deathmatch |
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| 02:22.38 | flyingspatula | i reallydont understand this min mid max crap |
| 02:23.07 | flyingspatula | nvm |
| 02:23.15 | Vailreth | neither do i |
| 02:23.22 | flyingspatula | what r u tyring to do |
| 02:24.29 | flyingspatula | ya i dont get this min max |
| 02:24.34 | Vailreth | i had to make a custom ui for a map... |
| 02:24.34 | flyingspatula | i know it goes min left max right |
| 02:24.39 | flyingspatula | ah |
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| 02:27.42 | Vailreth | i am wondering if i should move the minimap or just cut it all together |
| 02:31.10 | flyingspatula | i cut it out of mine |
| 02:31.31 | Vailreth | mine is bigger thiough i may have made my map too big |
| 02:32.05 | flyingspatula | true |
| 02:38.15 | Vailreth | i wanted to give the marines Radar |
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| 02:41.18 | Vailreth | but when i add doodads the map(area) will get smaller |
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| 03:02.04 | taintedwisp | Hey jademus, lol i was searching for post of Photon Disc, so i could comment on how great it was, and I came across a post for Photon cycles that said something about a banlist, 2 things, for yur map what are the rules that can put you on said list, and 2nd Is there a tutorial anywher where I can impliment one in my map? |
| 03:04.20 | JademusSreg | I'm not aware of any banlist tutorials. |
| 03:04.45 | JademusSreg | But my banlist checks for player handles, written directly into the map. |
| 03:05.15 | taintedwisp | What are the rules of your map? just so i know not to break them :D, because my language goes to the extremes :D |
| 03:05.17 | JademusSreg | Until player handle spoofing becomes common, it's as secure a ban as possible. |
| 03:06.19 | JademusSreg | I don't mind trolling or cursing, provided it is more funny than annoying. Mods will kick for hate speech and lagging. Everything else is pretty much allowed. |
| 03:06.49 | taintedwisp | lol, So realy the banlist is for hackers? just kicks for other right? |
| 03:07.27 | JademusSreg | The banlist is for people who fuck up superbad. |
| 03:07.31 | taintedwisp | im not going to lie, a few Racist words might come out from time to time, not really any hate or anything just more as a jokingly :D |
| 03:08.07 | taintedwisp | Alright thanks for the info, I gotta start back on my map tomorrow, all week its been Photon Discs, and Photon Cycles lol and a little phantom |
| 03:08.23 | JademusSreg | Well, I'd advise you don't do it while a voidray is on the field. They may or may not kick, but better safe than kicked. |
| 03:08.43 | taintedwisp | :D, i liek your style, just not while mods are patrolling |
| 03:09.57 | taintedwisp | Oh i ment to post this here, IF ANYONE NEEDS ANY help with testing im free for the next 2 weeks :D my B.net info is on Sc2mapster, im NA server |
| 03:10.52 | JademusSreg | To date, there is only one person on the banlist, and one person being considered for a ban. A player would need to be thoroughly commited to fucking up to earn a ban, so it doesn't happen often. |
| 03:17.54 | Mexa | There's one guy banned on EU as well |
| 03:18.04 | Mexa | I'm considering to remove it soon perhaps. |
| 03:18.26 | Mexa | If that wasn't the one you referred to. |
| 03:18.33 | JademusSreg | Yeah, he's the one I meant. |
| 03:19.05 | JademusSreg | Has that player bugged anyone since? |
| 03:19.10 | JademusSreg | The dimaga imposter? |
| 03:19.16 | Mexa | No idea |
| 03:19.20 | Mexa | I haven't followed up |
| 03:19.30 | Mexa | But considering he can't play the map anymore. |
| 03:19.59 | JademusSreg | Goot. |
| 03:20.11 | Mexa | http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1597982/1/mTwDIMAGA/matches I can only see he started to play alot of Mafia again |
| 03:20.17 | JademusSreg | Hahaha |
| 03:20.35 | Mexa | Wonder if that's on purpose. I recall DR having problems with this same guy. |
| 03:20.51 | JademusSreg | Permaban it shall remain. |
| 03:21.45 | Mexa | I suppose. Bu we don't know if he behaves in those Mafia matches, lol. It was a while ago DR brought him up |
| 03:22.35 | Mexa | If he feels he'd like his ban removed, I think he's better off contacting either you or me, if he now can explain himself or whatever. |
| 03:22.43 | Mexa | Yes? |
| 03:23.26 | flyingspatula | trying ot udnerstand applied physics is making my brain hurt |
| 03:23.37 | JademusSreg | I think if he sincerely wanted to play again, he would have asked. |
| 03:23.46 | Mexa | yeah. |
| 03:23.55 | JademusSreg | So the ban will remain. |
| 03:24.46 | Mexa | That reminds me, this is a perfect example of where getting the server time would be useful |
| 03:25.12 | Mexa | One could add bans that expire, without having to update the map for removal. |
| 03:26.13 | Mexa | Or I suppose, that, with a combination of server-side banks |
| 03:26.49 | flyingspatula | ok moving a chat to the bototm left is alot harder tha ni thot itd be |
| 03:26.53 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 03:26.57 | flyingspatula | i can make it in the very middle just fine |
| 03:27.00 | JademusSreg | Maybe someday. |
| 03:27.20 | JademusSreg | Fly, I moved chat to the bottom left in my example. |
| 03:27.29 | flyingspatula | really? |
| 03:27.32 | flyingspatula | gonna try that again |
| 03:28.24 | Mexa | Brb in a couple of hours. |
| 03:30.01 | Mexa | Oh, haha, btw Jademus, I actually found usefulness for Vex's jass indexing recycling for some programming in class. |
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| 03:30.20 | Mexa | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2757798/thread_indexing.txt |
| 03:30.32 | Mexa | I think I renamed the variables to make sense somewhat |
| 03:30.51 | Mexa | Instead of the autogenerated stuff that the compiler did. |
| 03:31.46 | Mexa | (oh, my snippet forgot unlocking the mutexes at some places, but meh) |
| 03:32.31 | Mexa | I suggested that Beier would implement it in bout the same way, instead of doing while loop to find free indexes, |
| 03:33.21 | Mexa | Anyway, laters! |
| 03:35.08 | taintedwisp | There is an in-game system bans that was created, I think the maker of Dragon RPG named Hero created it, when you had over 400 points in a certain stat it would Perma ban you lol |
| 03:35.30 | taintedwisp | But I think that in a map like Photon Cycles It could end up being abused lol, |
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| 03:39.31 | JademusSreg | Neato. |
| 03:56.45 | flyingspatula | hey jade is custom text the same concept as the layout thing? |
| 03:56.50 | flyingspatula | just want to try using other text fonts |
| 03:56.52 | flyingspatula | for my map |
| 04:00.22 | JademusSreg | Yep. |
| 04:01.51 | Bounty | We're on our 50th game of Photon Discs |
| 04:01.56 | Bounty | squished so many bugs |
| 04:01.59 | Bounty | so much fun |
| 04:01.59 | Bounty | haha |
| 04:02.05 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 04:02.08 | Bounty | I'm really surprised this many ppl showed up for the testathon |
| 04:03.01 | flyingspatula | hm does sc2 only have 2 diff fonts? |
| 04:03.04 | Currydevil | Got the placement menu working Bounty. |
| 04:03.11 | Bounty | nice Currydevil |
| 04:03.16 | Currydevil | now I just need to add in striking and hiding units from other player |
| 04:09.56 | flyingspatula | i cant find any sc2 fonts :( |
| 04:09.59 | flyingspatula | font styles |
| 04:12.50 | themusic | gotta be one out there somewhere |
| 04:18.09 | Currydevil | flyingspatula: http://cooltext.com/Download-Font-Starcraft |
| 04:18.25 | flyingspatula | hahaha sry i meant |
| 04:18.26 | flyingspatula | XD lmao |
| 04:18.38 | flyingspatula | i meant like im trying to change my sc2 map font XD |
| 04:18.42 | Currydevil | Oh |
| 04:18.49 | flyingspatula | haha but thanks |
| 04:18.50 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 04:18.53 | flyingspatula | may bookmark that too XD |
| 04:18.53 | Currydevil | np =X |
| 04:18.59 | Currydevil | sure, cooltext has a ton |
| 04:19.21 | Currydevil | I don't think you can change the font, but you can apply the formats =/ |
| 04:19.34 | Currydevil | I had a bookmark to which ones looked like what, but I can't find it anymore. |
| 04:20.20 | themusic | anyone have any idea why an actor would disappear after sending it a message via trigger |
| 04:20.31 | Currydevil | Um |
| 04:20.40 | Currydevil | no? still trying to fix the error from the other day? |
| 04:20.45 | themusic | haha, yep same one |
| 04:21.07 | Currydevil | not sure =( |
| 04:21.20 | Currydevil | I am unfamiliar with the 'prop' error |
| 04:21.36 | themusic | yea, not even erroring now, just *poof* gone |
| 04:22.07 | Currydevil | lol |
| 04:22.11 | Currydevil | *poof* |
| 04:22.25 | themusic | sighs |
| 04:23.07 | Currydevil | Btw, anyone in here modeling oriented and could help me with a couple models? http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/artist-tavern/requests/35312-tychus-swann-without-flashlights/#p3 |
| 04:23.37 | themusic | negative |
| 04:23.45 | flyingspatula | im so confused how to change font styles... how do i even import a style and where from |
| 04:23.46 | Currydevil | bummer |
| 04:23.52 | Currydevil | no idea. |
| 04:24.00 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 04:24.02 | Currydevil | all I know about is the text formatting. |
| 04:27.41 | Currydevil | http://i.imgur.com/nAnAZ.jpg |
| 04:27.56 | themusic | curry what map you working on |
| 04:28.04 | Currydevil | Startego |
| 04:28.09 | themusic | ah, thats right |
| 04:29.34 | Currydevil | I think i'll just change the miner to that little bot critter |
| 04:29.50 | Currydevil | I don't like the flashlights on Tychus and Swann |
| 04:30.55 | themusic | the 2000 bot? |
| 04:30.59 | Currydevil | mhm |
| 04:31.04 | themusic | hah im working with it now too |
| 04:31.25 | themusic | had to disable his annoying fidgets |
| 04:31.41 | Currydevil | Lol, I think Tychus will become a dark templar or something too. |
| 04:31.56 | IskatuMesk | :3 |
| 04:32.19 | Currydevil | Unless iskatu can remove flashlights for me! |
| 04:32.24 | IskatuMesk | wat |
| 04:32.30 | Currydevil | ^^ |
| 04:32.32 | Currydevil | lol |
| 04:32.43 | IskatuMesk | I think I already have access to a tychus without a flashlight |
| 04:32.46 | Currydevil | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:32.47 | IskatuMesk | hold up |
| 04:32.51 | IskatuMesk | lemme find it |
| 04:33.15 | Currydevil | If you have a tychus, don't worry about Swann. I think I like this little automaton better now. |
| 04:33.57 | themusic | everyone loves automation bot guy |
| 04:34.09 | IskatuMesk | EVWeb edited the tychus model for ricky's W&M map a time back to remove the flashlight |
| 04:34.12 | IskatuMesk | I know I have it somewhere |
| 04:34.28 | IskatuMesk | all of my files are scattered across like 5 hard drives |
| 04:34.41 | Currydevil | lol |
| 04:38.13 | IskatuMesk | www.gameproc.com/meskstuff/deepthroatgazelle/TychusNoDynamicLights.m3 |
| 04:39.15 | IskatuMesk | credit goes to EVWeb for that, I didn't make it. |
| 04:39.23 | Currydevil | ok, ty |
| 04:40.43 | flyingspatula | wtf |
| 04:40.52 | themusic | fonts owning you? |
| 04:40.57 | flyingspatula | yes |
| 04:40.59 | flyingspatula | im just trying |
| 04:41.06 | flyingspatula | to save the fontstyle file |
| 04:41.13 | flyingspatula | keeps converitng it to .txt |
| 04:43.17 | flyingspatula | cool got it |
| 04:43.28 | flyingspatula | no idea how u find custom fonts to import tho o well |
| 04:44.47 | Currydevil | Yay, thanks Iskatu for finding that for me =D |
| 04:51.48 | IskatuMesk | np |
| 05:08.48 | themusic | finally found someone else with my issue |
| 05:08.50 | themusic | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/data/10953-building-destroys-actors-arround-it/#p1 |
| 05:08.59 | themusic | no response sadly.. any ideas? |
| 05:09.28 | Currydevil | Nothin =( first i've heard of it. |
| 05:09.28 | themusic | whenever a stalker dies next to my actor it disappears |
| 05:09.35 | themusic | so random.. |
| 05:19.25 | Currydevil | How do I turn a player's camera 180 deg? I want player 2 to look from his side of the board. |
| 05:19.40 | flyingspatula | hey how do i prevent the box over/under a unit saying the player name who owns it |
| 05:19.51 | flyingspatula | uh |
| 05:19.53 | Currydevil | um, turn off highlight in unit flags |
| 05:20.06 | flyingspatula | weird i think i did that |
| 05:20.18 | Currydevil | there might be something on the actor too |
| 05:20.21 | flyingspatula | hm |
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| 05:24.25 | Currydevil | no idea on flipping a camera 180? |
| 05:24.45 | Currydevil | so player 1 looks from the bottom of the map and player 2 looks from the top |
| 05:25.06 | flyingspatula | cant u just set camera property? |
| 05:25.35 | flyingspatula | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:25.37 | flyingspatula | or whatever |
| 05:25.46 | Currydevil | oh where is rotation? |
| 05:25.55 | Currydevil | i am trying camera object, don't see rotation yet |
| 05:26.00 | flyingspatula | ah |
| 05:26.05 | flyingspatula | camera object its under |
| 05:26.08 | flyingspatula | yaw |
| 05:26.26 | flyingspatula | target yaw |
| 05:26.34 | Currydevil | hmmm |
| 05:26.49 | Currydevil | not seeing anything under camera object except default game camera or copy |
| 05:28.08 | Currydevil | oh camera property, not object. |
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| 05:34.17 | flyingspatula | yeah |
| 05:35.54 | flyingspatula | sigh |
| 05:36.01 | flyingspatula | i dont get why player tooltip shows up underground |
| 05:36.03 | flyingspatula | gdsjkhagd |
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| 05:38.41 | Currydevil | what message spot is in the middle of the screen? |
| 05:39.05 | themusic | top middle? |
| 05:39.14 | Currydevil | well, it has a name. Yes top middle |
| 05:39.20 | themusic | directive is top mid |
| 05:39.24 | Currydevil | ok |
| 05:39.25 | flyingspatula | oh its underground actually its the name of the player who owns it |
| 05:39.36 | flyingspatula | oh oops |
| 05:39.42 | flyingspatula | didnt mean to type tha tin this chat |
| 05:39.48 | Currydevil | lol |
| 05:39.51 | themusic | but i think directive is permanent you have to destroy it or it remains |
| 05:40.04 | Currydevil | we'll find out in a moment lol |
| 05:40.07 | themusic | hah |
| 05:40.28 | Currydevil | looks that way, but it's also behind my dialog, so no go |
| 05:40.34 | themusic | fail |
| 05:42.18 | themusic | make more dialog items :) |
| 05:43.02 | Currydevil | lol |
| 05:46.01 | flyingspatula | weird |
| 05:46.05 | flyingspatula | i cant seem |
| 05:46.17 | flyingspatula | to attach a text tag to my unit and not make it show up for the owner of tha tplayer |
| 05:46.29 | Currydevil | Lol, I placed a unit on the enemy side and now it won't let me click ready xD |
| 05:46.32 | flyingspatula | if i try to disable tag view for 1 player it removes it completely |
| 05:46.35 | Currydevil | fixed it though as soon as I did it. hah. |
| 05:46.44 | Currydevil | you sure? |
| 05:46.52 | Currydevil | oh |
| 05:46.58 | Currydevil | you didn't set it for your unit did you? |
| 05:47.24 | flyingspatula | my text tag works on the unit just fine, but i want to make the text disappear |
| 05:47.26 | flyingspatula | for a certain player |
| 05:48.17 | Currydevil | so, how do you know it removed it completely? did you set it on your unit or another player? |
| 05:49.05 | Zanam | where would i find the values for armor reduction per point of armor in the galaxy editor? |
| 05:49.21 | flyingspatula | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:49.30 | flyingspatula | i try any value and itll remove it for every1 |
| 05:49.35 | Currydevil | hm |
| 05:49.43 | Currydevil | so you can't see other players text tags? |
| 05:50.23 | Zanam | found it :D |
| 05:50.29 | flyingspatula | if i try to hide the tag for a specific player yea |
| 05:50.32 | flyingspatula | it just disappears for everyone |
| 05:50.49 | Currydevil | it's on the damage effect, or did you find another one Zanam? |
| 05:51.27 | Zanam | yeah i found it on the damage effect |
| 05:51.30 | Currydevil | ok |
| 05:51.52 | Currydevil | flying, text tags show up for computer players yes? |
| 05:51.59 | Currydevil | usually testing only shows the local player |
| 05:52.19 | flyingspatula | right but |
| 05:52.38 | flyingspatula | i make the text tag appear for all players. it shows up fine. |
| 05:52.45 | Currydevil | oh ok |
| 05:52.48 | flyingspatula | if i say hide that text tag for say player 10 |
| 05:52.51 | Currydevil | just making sure |
| 05:52.54 | flyingspatula | im player 1. but it disappears copletley |
| 05:52.55 | flyingspatula | :( yeah |
| 05:53.10 | Currydevil | I wasn't sure how it was working. I was just hoping it was working but not showing up for computer players lol |
| 05:53.22 | Currydevil | and would work when you had real players in it. |
| 05:53.23 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 05:53.26 | flyingspatula | yeah |
| 05:53.32 | flyingspatula | i just searched forum |
| 05:53.39 | flyingspatula | and ppl never found a fix |
| 05:53.40 | flyingspatula | :( |
| 05:54.04 | Currydevil | bummer |
| 05:55.22 | flyingspatula | hah yeah its broke i guess |
| 05:56.32 | flyingspatula | wheres jade when u need him lol |
| 05:57.26 | Currydevil | I'm gonna need a test here in a min if either of you are interested. |
| 05:57.58 | flyingspatula | yeah sure |
| 06:01.14 | themusic | how to make a unit attribute set to heroic with trigger.. that is the question |
| 06:02.26 | Currydevil | hmm |
| 06:04.00 | Currydevil | I don't see anything music. |
| 06:04.07 | themusic | same |
| 06:04.11 | flyingspatula | yeah i looked too |
| 06:04.14 | Currydevil | There is set unit property and state. I didn't see hero/heroic on either |
| 06:04.14 | flyingspatula | curry u need test yet? |
| 06:04.18 | flyingspatula | i also need t otest mine haha |
| 06:04.23 | Currydevil | yeah i'm ready. logging in now. |
| 06:04.28 | Currydevil | i can test yours |
| 06:04.31 | flyingspatula | ull have to do some kind of morph or unit replace music |
| 06:04.39 | themusic | yea =\ |
| 06:05.05 | flyingspatula | whats ur friend id stuff curry |
| 06:05.47 | Currydevil | currydevil.474 |
| 06:06.55 | Currydevil | Oh dumb is me. I have to set the 2nd player |
| 06:06.59 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 06:07.03 | flyingspatula | hey |
| 06:07.07 | flyingspatula | i gotta afk like 3-5 mins |
| 06:07.08 | flyingspatula | anyway |
| 06:07.11 | flyingspatula | that ok? |
| 06:07.14 | Currydevil | sure |
| 06:07.15 | flyingspatula | ill be on bnet still |
| 06:07.17 | Currydevil | what's your #? |
| 06:07.24 | flyingspatula | i msged u |
| 06:07.40 | Currydevil | k |
| 06:09.30 | flyingspatula | k nvm im back |
| 06:13.21 | Currydevil | ok |
| 06:19.30 | Xapti | what' the rough surface area visible to a default camera? |
| 06:19.39 | Xapti | I don't have editor open |
| 06:29.25 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 06:30.32 | JademusSreg | I was working on a texture for Bounty, |
| 06:36.36 | flyingspatula | you do so much for him lol |
| 06:42.40 | JademusSreg | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/4427533050?page=1#5 |
| 06:49.40 | flyingspatula | oh jade wise one |
| 06:50.59 | flyingspatula | hey jade |
| 06:51.03 | flyingspatula | i have a few questions for ya |
| 06:51.09 | flyingspatula | R U READY |
| 06:52.47 | Xapti | oh man I came up with a pretty cool idea |
| 06:53.27 | flyingspatula | question 1. do u know what this is all about? basically tooltip with players name pops up but is always under the map. cant get it removed. screenshot. http://i39.tinypic.com/2da0ubl.jpg |
| 06:53.42 | Xapti | Relating to Progammer's mousse tracking thing http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/trigger-libraries/11481-library-realtime-mouse-tracking-system/ |
| 06:55.32 | JademusSreg | Displaying the name of the owning player of the unit overwhich the mouse is hovered. |
| 06:55.45 | Xapti | instead of a grid of units, a WEAVE of long units (as strips) could be used |
| 06:55.55 | JademusSreg | The mouse is forced to the center of the screen when you've got camera relative and such enabled. |
| 06:56.44 | flyingspatula | ah so uh |
| 06:57.02 | flyingspatula | how can i prevent the tooltip thing |
| 06:57.22 | Xapti | easiest way is remove highlightable flag on the uniot |
| 06:57.34 | flyingspatula | well i did that tho so makes no sense lol |
| 06:57.39 | Xapti | or add unhighlightable |
| 06:57.43 | flyingspatula | i thot it was that at first |
| 06:57.44 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 06:57.45 | Xapti | iguess is what it is |
| 06:58.15 | Xapti | that doesn't work? |
| 06:58.24 | JademusSreg | I don't see the use of that particular library, at least not on the surface. |
| 06:58.31 | Xapti | I personally haven't tried, but from what I heard that sounds like it would work |
| 06:59.16 | Xapti | Well it was originally made before mouse movement event existed |
| 06:59.33 | flyingspatula | damn wheres bounty. how come only i have these retarded problems |
| 07:00.37 | JademusSreg | Try No Tooltip? |
| 07:01.33 | flyingspatula | yea i tried that too ;/ |
| 07:02.38 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 07:04.14 | JademusSreg | Unselectable, No Tooltip, Cannot Be Highlighted, and nothing worked? |
| 07:04.42 | flyingspatula | well it only does it when its a player |
| 07:05.46 | flyingspatula | ill experiment with it more |
| 07:05.50 | flyingspatula | gotta be a way to fix it |
| 07:05.53 | Xapti | you mean a human player? |
| 07:06.04 | flyingspatula | on another note, have u played with text tags jade |
| 07:06.08 | Xapti | (I would think not) |
| 07:06.10 | Currydevil | would you like to test agin spat? see if i made the placement more efficient and not being able to move enemy units |
| 07:06.14 | Xapti | I have flying |
| 07:06.42 | JademusSreg | I've not had need to use text tags in my work yet. |
| 07:06.50 | JademusSreg | But what did you want to know? |
| 07:07.04 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 07:07.20 | flyingspatula | well it seems i cant make text tag show/hide for a specific player |
| 07:07.35 | Xapti | you can |
| 07:07.37 | flyingspatula | like i make a tag name above unit for every1 to see but dont want the owner of that unit to |
| 07:07.39 | flyingspatula | see it |
| 07:07.54 | flyingspatula | but when i hide the tag text for any player it does it for every1 |
| 07:08.10 | Xapti | I justs don't kno how to make actors easily invissible to players (although I kinda figured out a method I think but it's a bit convoluted) |
| 07:08.11 | flyingspatula | trying to hide.show for any player autmoatically permanently hides it it seems sofar |
| 07:09.18 | Xapti | I think you might need to make a tag for each player individually |
| 07:09.47 | flyingspatula | well i have a text tag in my struct |
| 07:09.50 | flyingspatula | for each player |
| 07:09.52 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 07:10.26 | JademusSreg | I don't see anything strange in texttags. |
| 07:11.01 | flyingspatula | well |
| 07:11.27 | flyingspatula | like i make my text tag " Text Tag - Create a text tag with the text (Text (Name of player player) with color (Color((Current player player color)))) for (All players), using a font size of 32, at (Position of Player[player].Units.avatar) and height offset 0.5, initially Visible, and fog of war enforcement set to False " |
| 07:11.34 | flyingspatula | ok that was way more text tha ni thot sry |
| 07:11.41 | flyingspatula | and i define the var |
| 07:11.58 | flyingspatula | then Text Tag - Attach Player[player].Units.name to Player[player].Units.avatar with height offset 0.5 and it works fine |
| 07:12.06 | flyingspatula | but i want to hide it for a single player |
| 07:12.07 | JademusSreg | http://pastebin.com/yvEeN4Ar |
| 07:12.09 | JademusSreg | See? |
| 07:12.45 | flyingspatula | yeah |
| 07:12.53 | flyingspatula | but still i dont get what my issue is then |
| 07:13.10 | flyingspatula | like it just wont work if its 1 player |
| 07:13.16 | JademusSreg | ??? |
| 07:13.49 | Currydevil | it hides it for all players instead of just the player he wants it hidden for. |
| 07:13.58 | flyingspatula | like |
| 07:13.58 | Xapti | flyingspatula have you made a separate text tag for each player? |
| 07:14.18 | Xapti | doesn't sseem like you did |
| 07:14.24 | Xapti | I told you that's what you might have to do |
| 07:14.24 | flyingspatula | like tag works then i do Text Tag - Hide Player[player].Units.name for (Player group(6)) for example. and im player 1 this is just a test value |
| 07:14.28 | flyingspatula | it hides it for me as well |
| 07:14.31 | flyingspatula | nomatter what number |
| 07:14.33 | flyingspatula | or value |
| 07:14.45 | Xapti | that's just making ONE tag |
| 07:14.52 | flyingspatula | right |
| 07:14.54 | flyingspatula | 1 tag per player |
| 07:15.00 | Xapti | you need to make a loop and run it though all players |
| 07:15.15 | Xapti | and then only hide the tag that belongs to the player that the tag is on top of |
| 07:15.17 | JademusSreg | Fly, pastebin ze code. |
| 07:16.32 | flyingspatula | kk |
| 07:16.32 | JademusSreg | Anyway, where it says (All players), you can give it a different playergroup minus the player. Or you can set it's visibility state afterward. |
| 07:16.36 | JademusSreg | Eitherway. |
| 07:16.57 | Currydevil | Anyone wanna test rq? I have a couple things I need to see. |
| 07:17.51 | flyingspatula | http://pastebin.com/x9KeBtQR thats all it is. the function is ran for each player at the beggning |
| 07:18.45 | JademusSreg | Player is null (0). |
| 07:18.52 | flyingspatula | well the 6 would actually be the player paramenter, but i wanted to try a player vaue that would result |
| 07:18.54 | JademusSreg | Just guessing. |
| 07:18.55 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 07:18.56 | flyingspatula | in a diff player |
| 07:19.37 | flyingspatula | say what? |
| 07:20.03 | flyingspatula | thats my paramebter |
| 07:20.12 | JademusSreg | Anyway, the heck is PlayerGroup(6)? |
| 07:20.47 | flyingspatula | that just should convert to player 6? |
| 07:20.49 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 07:20.53 | flyingspatula | i set it to |
| 07:20.56 | flyingspatula | tempGroup |
| 07:21.04 | flyingspatula | bbut still same issue |
| 07:21.20 | flyingspatula | i know im messing up somethign with playergrps i have to be |
| 07:21.25 | JademusSreg | Who the heck is player 6? |
| 07:21.31 | flyingspatula | no one |
| 07:21.33 | flyingspatula | or anyone |
| 07:21.35 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 07:21.40 | flyingspatula | but it snot me |
| 07:21.42 | flyingspatula | its not* |
| 07:21.56 | JademusSreg | Why is it there? |
| 07:22.08 | Xapti | flyingspatula are you listening to me? |
| 07:22.15 | Xapti | it seems ilke you're only making one text tag |
| 07:22.18 | JademusSreg | And the empty condition. |
| 07:22.23 | flyingspatula | because i wanted to show that when i try to hide the text tag for a player it does it for everyone |
| 07:22.34 | JademusSreg | Xap, obviously it's being called from a playergroup loop. |
| 07:22.41 | JademusSreg | It takes a player parameter. |
| 07:22.57 | flyingspatula | weird im not sure why it shows an empty condiiton |
| 07:22.58 | Xapti | well it's not shown |
| 07:23.11 | flyingspatula | oh |
| 07:23.15 | flyingspatula | i had my |
| 07:23.19 | flyingspatula | create my unit |
| 07:23.22 | flyingspatula | collapsed |
| 07:23.27 | flyingspatula | so it didnt paste it |
| 07:23.34 | JademusSreg | Game.Team.activePlayers |
| 07:23.36 | flyingspatula | it was just create x unit, set var to last created blah |
| 07:24.30 | Xapti | the text tag shsould be created for the individual player; you have it set to game.team.activeplayers |
| 07:24.51 | flyingspatula | right i have a struct array |
| 07:24.51 | JademusSreg | Xap, he wants to exclude a player. |
| 07:24.53 | flyingspatula | that does that xapti |
| 07:25.04 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 07:25.08 | Xapti | i know he wantssto exclude a player |
| 07:25.15 | JademusSreg | Fly, you can copy the active player group, then remove the player from it. |
| 07:25.28 | JademusSreg | Then give that to the text tag's playergroup parameter. |
| 07:25.29 | Xapti | that's specifically whwy it hsould be individually made for each player |
| 07:25.47 | flyingspatula | yeah ill try that |
| 07:25.57 | flyingspatula | xapti im not sure what u mean, it is being individually made fore ach player |
| 07:26.10 | Xapti | no |
| 07:26.23 | flyingspatula | oh |
| 07:26.25 | flyingspatula | i might know what u mean |
| 07:26.27 | Xapti | you're making one for everyone n times (n is the number of playerss) |
| 07:26.36 | flyingspatula | but |
| 07:26.49 | flyingspatula | why couldnt u just have a single one |
| 07:26.56 | flyingspatula | per player |
| 07:27.07 | Xapti | because it's only visible to a certain group |
| 07:27.12 | Xapti | and your group is dynamic |
| 07:27.20 | JademusSreg | Nonsense. |
| 07:27.23 | Xapti | i hsould say not binary |
| 07:27.26 | Xapti | but multiple |
| 07:27.50 | Xapti | tags are either visible or they aren't |
| 07:28.09 | Xapti | and they are vissible to those wwho it wwas created for |
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| 07:28.49 | Xapti | you can't change who can ssee a tag — it's only visible to the people it wasss created for |
| 07:29.16 | JademusSreg | That's nonsense. |
| 07:29.27 | Xapti | well blizzard is nonsesnsical |
| 07:29.38 | Currydevil | Need a quick test =P |
| 07:29.43 | Xapti | i don't really think it's that strange though personally |
| 07:29.44 | JademusSreg | No, I mean what you're saying is nonsense, Xap. |
| 07:29.57 | Xapti | wwell i'm maybe not exxplaining it wewll enough |
| 07:30.19 | Xapti | they can obvioussly be turned on and off still |
| 07:30.34 | Xapti | but only on and off to those who it was created for |
| 07:30.46 | JademusSreg | Asynchronous text tags would work precisely that way, like those created from actors, but these are not asynchronous text tags. |
| 07:31.10 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 07:31.11 | JademusSreg | They exist for all clients. |
| 07:31.24 | Xapti | that may be the case, |
| 07:31.30 | Xapti | but that doessn't mean they can see them |
| 07:31.31 | flyingspatula | well damn |
| 07:31.59 | JademusSreg | TextTagShow (int inTag, playergroup inPlayers, bool inShow); |
| 07:32.00 | flyingspatula | i tried copying playergrp, removing the units player |
| 07:32.05 | flyingspatula | then creating tag for playergrp |
| 07:32.07 | flyingspatula | showing* |
| 07:32.15 | flyingspatula | tried online still no tags :( |
| 07:33.25 | flyingspatula | and |
| 07:33.37 | flyingspatula | i created the txt tag for every1 BUT the player |
| 07:33.46 | flyingspatula | then set show to that player, it shows txt again |
| 07:33.54 | flyingspatula | so i think it is dynamic that way |
| 07:33.55 | flyingspatula | u can alter it |
| 07:34.06 | flyingspatula | but it still doesnt want to do it fo ra single player |
| 07:34.33 | JademusSreg | I doubt that, but I guess I'll be forced to test it. |
| 07:34.35 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 07:34.58 | Xapti | I don't know if you know what you're doing? |
| 07:35.02 | flyingspatula | well im probably wrong im jus tobserving what is happenign sofar |
| 07:35.09 | flyingspatula | i really dont understand why i cant do a single player |
| 07:35.47 | Xapti | make a tag for each individual player then remove the one from the player you don't want it showing |
| 07:36.06 | Xapti | (or disable it's visibility) |
| 07:36.35 | flyingspatula | so ur saying i need to keep track of like 10 tags per player? jeez |
| 07:36.37 | flyingspatula | 100 tags |
| 07:36.58 | Xapti | why 10 tags per player? |
| 07:37.08 | Xapti | potentially yes |
| 07:37.20 | flyingspatula | that sounds weird |
| 07:37.20 | Currydevil | so by your logic Xapt, if he had 4 players, he would have to make a text tag on player 1 for players 2-4, player 2 has tags for 1, 3, 4 etc? |
| 07:37.21 | Xapti | but only if all 10 are sismultaniou |
| 07:37.49 | Xapti | otherwwisse you can jusst move the tag to be attached to a diffferent unit |
| 07:38.40 | Xapti | if it'ss not being dissplayed simultanioussly, you can jut move the tagss |
| 07:38.47 | Xapti | god damn I need to fix this keyboard |
| 07:42.06 | Currydevil | flyingspatula, wanna test rq? |
| 07:42.18 | Xapti | One of the ways I'm using tags is to highlight the target for each player. So every player has 1 tag that only they can see, and it jumps from unit to unit all the time (depending what unit the player is targetting). I don't ever have more than 1 target per player unit, so that's not a lot of text tags (they just jump around lots) |
| 07:43.10 | Xapti | if you do need multiple tags displayed simultaneously, that would add-up to more overall tags |
| 07:44.07 | Xapti | if you wanted just 1 tag, you could technically make a custom group excluding player x, and create that one tag for that group |
| 07:44.45 | Xapti | but I don't see a ituation were that would be efficient to do |
| 07:45.33 | Xapti | (if that player is normally part of the ame group as everyone else at least) |
| 07:49.47 | JademusSreg | http://pastebin.com/W6VgTcyE |
| 07:49.49 | JademusSreg | Kapow |
| 07:50.13 | JademusSreg | It works for single player groups. Okay, thanks, bye. |
| 07:50.30 | JademusSreg | Even gave it a null playergroup when creating it. |
| 07:50.35 | JademusSreg | So yeah, it works. |
| 07:50.55 | JademusSreg | brb |
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| 08:02.07 | JademusSreg | In case there is any ambiguity in understanding the results, text tags are synchronous, as I said, and you can selectively set visibility using single-member playergroups. Xapti's advice is simply wrong. |
| 08:02.12 | JademusSreg | Sleep time. |
| 08:02.43 | Xapti | I didn't sassy you couldn't make tags svisible for individual players.... |
| 08:03.03 | Xapti | I said you couldn't make a tag for play A and make it visible to player B |
| 08:03.34 | JademusSreg | Yeah, you can. |
| 08:03.43 | JademusSreg | Pew pew |
| 08:04.48 | flyingspatula | weird |
| 08:04.49 | flyingspatula | wheres the |
| 08:05.00 | flyingspatula | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:05.04 | flyingspatula | wheres uh |
| 08:05.11 | flyingspatula | the unit grp param |
| 08:05.46 | JademusSreg | Playergroup, and I set it to null. |
| 08:06.00 | flyingspatula | ah |
| 08:06.13 | Xapti | oh nevermind. I never bothered checking if it was possible to do |
| 08:06.17 | JademusSreg | To demonstrate that the playergroup parameter just determines the initial settings. |
| 08:06.32 | JademusSreg | Sleep time++ |
| 08:06.44 | flyingspatula | k thx ill mess with it |
| 08:06.46 | flyingspatula | hope ig et it working |
| 08:07.00 | flyingspatula | i mean i sorta understand where u were coming from xapti |
| 08:07.53 | flyingspatula | OH |
| 08:07.56 | flyingspatula | thats right |
| 08:08.00 | flyingspatula | i see why it woudlnt work before it hink |
| 08:08.06 | Xapti | Inever had my edtor open so I was just going by memory |
| 08:08.08 | flyingspatula | and why his would |
| 08:08.11 | flyingspatula | ah lol |
| 08:08.15 | Currydevil | Ok, going to bed in a min, could I bother you for one more test spat? to check the placement/moving enemy pieces |
| 08:08.24 | flyingspatula | sure |
| 08:08.28 | Currydevil | cool cool |
| 08:08.45 | Xapti | you can't have overlapping tags, you probably made all those tags and didn't set them all to hidden for that player |
| 08:16.46 | flyingspatula | ... i feel liek an idiot |
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| 08:33.34 | flyingspatula | guess i was lookin at text tags completely wrong |
| 08:34.38 | harl | hello |
| 08:34.53 | flyingspatula | hi |
| 08:35.22 | Currydevil | uh oh.... |
| 08:35.48 | Currydevil | I just effed up scout movement by changing the numbers. |
| 08:35.53 | Currydevil | hahahahahaha |
| 08:36.00 | Currydevil | oh well, i'll fix that tomorrow. |
| 08:36.10 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 08:36.11 | Currydevil | just get this cleared up and good to go for tonight |
| 08:36.22 | Currydevil | scout movement is hardcoded for certain tiles. |
| 08:42.33 | flyingspatula | did u still need test? |
| 08:42.39 | Currydevil | yes just a sec |
| 08:42.44 | flyingspatula | ok |
| 08:42.51 | flyingspatula | could we aslo check if my name tag works too? after |
| 08:43.03 | Currydevil | sure |
| 08:43.07 | flyingspatula | kk |
| 08:46.08 | Currydevil | ok, ready |
| 08:46.10 | flyingspatula | k |
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| 13:25.26 | Zanam | if anyones awake im having some difficulty with a validator |
| 13:32.59 | Zanam | i'll drop it here in case anyone pops on from idling. A 'buff spell' behavior's special effect graphic (actor), i want it to validate based on the source who cast it on the unit. example: player 1's unit casts -debuff- on player 2's unit. the actor needs to perform a series of checks against player 1's unit. I'm not sure which type of validator would do this |
| 13:33.43 | Zanam | specifically, validate the player who owns the unit. |
| 13:33.54 | Zanam | to see if they have a particular research learned or not |
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| 13:41.29 | equinox1911 | sry , im not familiar with validators |
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| 14:04.50 | Kueken | It is quite hard for an actor to validate anything on another player or unit |
| 14:05.14 | Kueken | you are probably better off creating different actors or behaviors on the target |
| 14:05.40 | Kueken | or do the desired modifications via trigger |
| 14:05.54 | Kueken | heh |
| 14:06.00 | Kueken | he left already :/ |
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| 14:22.46 | Kueken | zanam |
| 14:22.46 | Kueken | (16:04:54) Kueken: It is quite hard for an actor to validate anything on another player or unit |
| 14:22.46 | Kueken | (16:05:18) Kueken: you are probably better off creating different actors or behaviors on the target |
| 14:22.46 | Kueken | (16:05:43) Kueken: or do the desired modifications via trigger |
| 14:23.04 | Zanam | thanks, i had a feeling i d/c'd from the chat |
| 14:23.23 | Kueken | yes, i talked to you while you were away :/ |
| 14:23.42 | Zanam | been throwing every combination of validators at it since i said that haha |
| 14:23.44 | Zanam | nothing has stuck |
| 14:23.55 | Kueken | made the same experience here |
| 14:23.56 | Zanam | guess it's multiple behavior/actor time... so unclean |
| 14:24.17 | Zanam | there are so many vague validator values |
| 14:24.25 | Zanam | like source/caster/creator, and player+ versus other player+ |
| 14:24.37 | Kueken | you could try something like global references, validate on the unit of the player and send messages via reference |
| 14:24.40 | Zanam | i figured out though |
| 14:24.47 | Kueken | but that doesn't make it any cleaner :D |
| 14:24.49 | Zanam | that other player+ does validate against other players |
| 14:25.07 | Kueken | that works now? |
| 14:25.09 | Zanam | but you just cant select which player, it seems. |
| 14:25.22 | Zanam | yeah, i confirmed it. but it didnt give me the solution i needed |
| 14:25.50 | Zanam | its almost like a "does somebody out there have this validation" |
| 14:26.44 | Kueken | hm |
| 14:29.18 | Zanam | ill just go with the unclean way, dont want to be stuck on this forever. project has been moving too quickly |
| 14:30.41 | Kueken | you could try triggers as well |
| 14:31.03 | Zanam | i'm trying to force myself to use data as much as possible |
| 14:31.04 | Kueken | depending on what you want to modify, this could be quite easy |
| 14:31.21 | Zanam | well here's the entire breakdown |
| 14:31.56 | Zanam | all units in this project are color-coded to the players color. that's all set and done, but i thought it would be neat for any debuffs cast by a player would be color-coded to the caster's color rather than the targets |
| 14:31.59 | Zanam | it would make more sense that way |
| 14:32.14 | Zanam | not just units, all spell effects, weapons, everything |
| 14:33.51 | Zanam | currently its done through research and validators. trigger checks to see the player's color, turns on the appropriate research, all actors have a series of 'validate unit->playerIsRed->tint red', for each of the 12 available player colors |
| 14:38.31 | Ashamed | http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/282363-checkmate-atheists#.T4epmJbbOmc.facebook |
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| 15:35.43 | Zanam | well almost got it figured out with triggers, but i cant seem to actually attach the effect. it gets created at the correct position and colorized, but it doesnt follow with the units movement. |
| 15:36.32 | Zanam | bleh, easy fix |
| 15:36.36 | Zanam | yaaay working colored debuffs |
| 15:43.38 | Dustin | mornin |
| 15:45.32 | Vailreth | hello alls yous crazy peoples |
| 15:48.24 | Kueken | right back at ya |
| 15:49.15 | Vailreth | Kirby |
| 15:50.19 | Vailreth | i think i will have bosses in my invasion map |
| 15:50.54 | Ashamed | bosses! |
| 15:50.57 | Ashamed | AHHHHH |
| 15:51.32 | Vailreth | yes they will get on the nervers of players by making the do TPS reports over and over on the weekends for no overtime |
| 15:53.44 | Vailreth | so much silence and i thought it would be a good joke |
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| 15:54.08 | Bounty | Hay Guyz |
| 15:54.43 | Vailreth | hey Bounty |
| 15:58.52 | Bounty | Thats wierd |
| 15:58.57 | Bounty | I cant join the Photon Discs channel |
| 15:59.01 | Bounty | it says network error |
| 16:06.18 | Vailreth | weird i get that error as well .... |
| 16:06.25 | Bounty | fuckign figures |
| 16:06.35 | Bounty | first my internet dies out last night in the middle of the testathon |
| 16:06.45 | Bounty | now my internet is working but the fucking chat channel isnt |
| 16:07.17 | Vailreth | yeah |
| 16:12.40 | Vailreth | makes me wonder if something happend to corrupt the chanel when you internet died |
| 16:13.04 | Bounty | Hope not |
| 16:13.45 | Vailreth | as do i |
| 16:14.04 | Vailreth | but that channel is the only one i can not connect to |
| 16:14.05 | Bounty | I was supposed to go public beta last night |
| 16:14.09 | Bounty | but nooo |
| 16:16.42 | Vailreth | hm, |
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| 16:49.58 | Times | hey guys - I have 2 quick questions |
| 16:50.26 | Times | in the Text Editor, what do hotkey marker and hotkey link do? |
| 16:51.53 | Dustin | lets go play photon disks |
| 16:52.25 | Times | anyone? |
| 16:52.53 | Dustin | nothing of importance |
| 16:53.07 | Times | well no, but, what do they actually do? |
| 16:53.20 | Times | even if it's nothing of importance |
| 16:54.00 | Dustin | probably sets the link name for reference and I have no idea what marker does |
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| 17:50.31 | JademusSreg | Pew pew |
| 17:54.14 | Ashamed | ahhh |
| 17:54.17 | Ashamed | its fucking friday |
| 17:55.18 | JademusSreg | That's the best kind of Friday. |
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| 18:15.22 | Vailreth | whats the best way to do a drop system? |
| 18:15.35 | Vailreth | like when a unit dies it drops a power up? |
| 18:15.36 | Mexa | Hey Bibendus, I played your map abit today! |
| 18:16.49 | JademusSreg | Vail, data or triggers would be fine. |
| 18:17.03 | JademusSreg | I'd prefer data, unless the sets are dynamic. |
| 18:17.45 | Vailreth | i tryied using loot but it drops every kill and messes with my death counter |
| 18:36.40 | Xapti | is it possible to hide once-revealed areas back to fog-of-war state? |
| 18:36.48 | Xapti | I think I recall that it wasn't |
| 18:38.13 | JademusSreg | Should be doable. |
| 18:41.23 | JademusSreg | VisExploreArea(index,RegionEntireMap(),false,false); for instance will obscure the entire map. |
| 18:41.27 | Xapti | lookss like there'ss a trigger that does it |
| 18:41.31 | Xapti | yeah |
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| 19:19.04 | Xapti | god damn computer prone to crashing |
| 19:19.23 | Xapti | was working on a small tesst map without sasving. Neither of teht temporarily saved maps are loadable for some reasson |
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| 19:56.06 | Scorp_ | looking for a skilled terrainer to talk with for a few minutes |
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| 20:03.34 | JademusSreg | What about? |
| 20:05.56 | Scorp_ | Dunno how my map should look like |
| 20:07.35 | JademusSreg | What's in the map? |
| 20:07.47 | JademusSreg | Which is to ask what is the gameplay? |
| 20:07.51 | Scorp_ | http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/1187/terrain001z.jpg |
| 20:07.57 | Scorp_ | its a melee map |
| 20:08.27 | Scorp_ | I cant decide which tileset and overall look I should go for |
| 20:13.41 | JademusSreg | Terrain is like a subtle narrative, it has it's own history and story. To get to the aesthetic specifics, you can start from the events that shape it. |
| 20:15.31 | JademusSreg | If there's a lot of sand, that means erosion, so wind kicking up ribbons of sand, worn and pitted rocks, deterioated structures. |
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| 20:15.57 | JademusSreg | *deteriorated |
| 20:16.15 | Scorp_ | true |
| 20:16.24 | Scorp_ | but I haven't even decided which tileset to use |
| 20:16.43 | Xapti | god damn not again |
| 20:16.52 | Xapti | freaking editor crasshing my PC |
| 20:16.59 | Scorp_ | lol |
| 20:24.18 | flyingspatula | , |
| 20:33.24 | flyingspatula | jade so what did u make bounty las nite |
| 20:33.39 | Bounty | One spot open |
| 20:33.42 | Bounty | for Photon Discs |
| 20:33.46 | Bounty | full game |
| 20:33.47 | Bounty | :) |
| 20:33.50 | Bounty | channel PhotonDiscs |
| 20:34.03 | flyingspatula | hm ok i guess ill join |
| 20:35.32 | flyingspatula | full house or what |
| 20:51.15 | Ashamed | Photondicks more like it |
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| 20:56.32 | Xapti | how do I get a camera to follow unit at an offset |
| 20:57.32 | Xapti | The follow command always seems to reset the position to the center. Would I have to just make a new winvisible unit that follows that unit around at that offset and follow it? |
| 20:58.18 | Xapti | *reset the position to the followed unit (eventhough I have keep current target enabled, which I thought was what would control that) |
| 20:58.34 | JademusSreg | What are you doing to follow it currently? |
| 21:02.00 | Xapti | I've tried pan camera to unit with offset then follow unit [group] with keep current target |
| 21:03.26 | Xapti | I've also tried look at and some other stuffs just to mess around and it doesn't give the desired behavior either |
| 21:06.24 | JademusSreg | Cameras have a lot of dimension, and I'm not quite sure what effect you're going for, but Distance is basically an x/y offset. |
| 21:07.55 | JademusSreg | In my work, I follow unitgroups, and modify the Camera data rather than deal with camerainfos. |
| 21:08.27 | JademusSreg | (camerainfos are the preplaced camera objects.) |
| 21:08.35 | Xapti | I dont see how distance would offer an offset |
| 21:09.32 | Xapti | distance is the distance the camera is from the target it's viewing |
| 21:10.03 | Xapti | I want to offset target x/y during camera follow |
| 21:10.23 | flyingspatula | but if you have 5 cam distance and look up or down its not accurate to say the camera is focused 5 distance behind anymore |
| 21:11.04 | Xapti | oh right, tat makes distance height or somethin? |
| 21:11.35 | Xapti | I think it actually changes the distance value though I would think |
| 21:11.47 | Xapti | but I don't remember |
| 21:12.06 | Xapti | (ie. distance would not be constant) |
| 21:12.11 | JademusSreg | I should make a camera diagram sometime. |
| 21:12.56 | Xapti | so distance looks like it's height |
| 21:13.08 | JademusSreg | Anyway, cameras can be seen as having two positional properties, the Eye and the Target. |
| 21:13.32 | Xapti | yeah distance is the height of the eye |
| 21:13.51 | JademusSreg | Naw. |
| 21:14.01 | Xapti | looks like it to me |
| 21:14.26 | JademusSreg | Because of the camera rotation, I can see how that might seem. |
| 21:14.54 | Xapti | err nevermind yeah |
| 21:15.07 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 21:15.09 | Xapti | distance from eye to target |
| 21:16.24 | Bounty | Need one more for the new Photon Discs video |
| 21:16.26 | Bounty | Xapti? |
| 21:16.35 | Bounty | You want in on the release video? :) |
| 21:17.13 | Xapti | I guess |
| 21:17.53 | Bounty | channel PhotonDiscs Xapti |
| 21:19.51 | Dustin | Photon Disks needs jetpacks |
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| 21:39.58 | Xapti | anyone know how to follow unit with a camera, but at an offset? |
| 21:40.47 | Ashamed | bounty you need to add jetpacks into phontodicks! |
| 21:40.49 | A1win | loop that constantly updates camera position |
| 21:41.28 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:41.31 | Bounty | yeah ok Ashamed |
| 21:41.49 | Ashamed | i was messing around with a jetpack trigger skill |
| 21:41.52 | Ashamed | it was pretty good |
| 21:42.28 | Bounty | 9 ppl in mah channel |
| 21:42.32 | Bounty | 45 minutes played already |
| 21:42.37 | Bounty | just released 5 minutes ago |
| 21:42.49 | Ashamed | its a nice mini game type |
| 21:42.57 | Ashamed | i would imagine it will get up there for a few weeks |
| 21:43.01 | Ashamed | and then drop |
| 21:44.11 | Dustin | JETPACKS |
| 21:47.24 | Dustin | Damnit I want to play photon disks |
| 21:47.29 | Dustin | but theres only 1 guy in here |
| 21:47.35 | Ashamed | Dustin its Photon Dicks |
| 21:47.38 | Bounty | we changed the channel Dustin |
| 21:47.40 | Bounty | PhotonDiscs |
| 21:48.01 | Dustin | haha photon dicks |
| 21:48.11 | Bounty | I wanna see if i can get Sixen to news the new video when its uploaded TONIGHT |
| 21:48.12 | Dustin | change the disk model to a translucent penis |
| 21:48.14 | Bounty | That would be such a huge boost |
| 21:48.18 | Bounty | on a friday night |
| 21:48.21 | Bounty | and we already have 9 ppl in channel |
| 21:48.47 | Ashamed | wow 9 out of 10 million |
| 22:07.39 | Xapti | wow theme park sold 3.5 million copies |
| 22:12.36 | Xapti | that's more than quake, diablo, warcraft 2, warcraft 3, baldur's gate, BG2, (and obviosuly a bunch more) |
| 22:12.58 | Xapti | I guess it's almost like the precursor to the Sims |
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| 22:28.20 | Mexa_ | Ish, I fell asleep. |
| 22:46.22 | Vailreth | Spatula |
| 22:48.19 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VjI-aZ1ZYk |
| 22:48.23 | Bounty | Release Video for Photon Discs |
| 22:48.25 | Bounty | Enjoy that shit! |
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| 22:55.41 | Xapti | your chat is problematic |
| 22:55.59 | Xapti | default is send to allies, and players aren't allied at the start, so you can only see chat from same team |
| 22:56.31 | Xapti | what's worse is if you want to all chat you have to hold shift and press enter, which triggers sprint if the game's started |
| 23:01.32 | Mexa_ | Bounty, you swapped the music? |
| 23:01.37 | Bounty | no |
| 23:01.44 | Bounty | differant music for team death match |
| 23:01.50 | Mexa_ | Oh. |
| 23:02.15 | Mexa_ | It looks like fun |
| 23:02.17 | Mexa_ | :) |
| 23:02.23 | Bounty | Oh it is |
| 23:02.45 | Mexa_ | I like how the wall gives the illusion of the entire floor is like an elevator:P |
| 23:03.03 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:03.07 | Bounty | never noticed that really :) |
| 23:03.38 | Mexa_ | Mmm, it was the first thing in my mind when I don't see the end of the top, |
| 23:03.58 | Bounty | I chose no cieling |
| 23:04.06 | Bounty | bc of the glass floor |
| 23:04.08 | Vailreth | is there a more effienct way to do waves? |
| 23:04.09 | Bounty | would be way to trippy |
| 23:05.11 | Vailreth | i was using one trigger with if then actions that have a intiger variable condition |
| 23:06.47 | Mexa_ | You know what you need for your maps, Bounty? |
| 23:06.55 | Bounty | ? |
| 23:07.14 | Mexa_ | http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=photon+cycles An active community spreading the map. |
| 23:07.43 | Bounty | Let me get right on that |
| 23:07.44 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:08.20 | Mexa_ | Looking at Jademus' map being successful almost showing 5 whole pages on youtube with people playing. |
| 23:08.39 | Bounty | *shrug* |
| 23:08.39 | Mexa_ | *6 |
| 23:08.43 | Bounty | Thats not something within my control |
| 23:08.49 | Mexa_ | Well |
| 23:08.57 | Mexa_ | Perhaps, perhaps not |
| 23:09.05 | Mexa_ | Marketing is a huge deal of becoming visible |
| 23:09.23 | Mexa_ | I'm not sure how much Jademus did, but he got featured on Togicast, for instance. |
| 23:09.23 | Bounty | Thats why i asked Sixen if he could news the map today |
| 23:09.31 | Mexa_ | *yogicast |
| 23:09.32 | Bounty | We have 9 ppl in the channel right now |
| 23:09.51 | Bounty | a feature on mapster front page on a friday night would give the map a huge boost |
| 23:10.12 | Mexa_ | Well yes, but you seem to only market in on sc2mapster |
| 23:10.19 | Bounty | no |
| 23:10.27 | Bounty | i post threads on the bnet forums, mapster and TL |
| 23:10.28 | Mexa_ | And on TeamLiquid, where people are more interested in the esports scene. |
| 23:10.38 | Bounty | I get shit loads of hits from TL |
| 23:10.55 | Mexa_ | Well |
| 23:11.19 | Bounty | I doubt JademusSreg had any part in what you're talking about |
| 23:11.23 | Mexa_ | TL is a large community, while people might look at your map videos and give you hits, it doesn't mean they play it. |
| 23:11.24 | Bounty | He just made a map that built its own community |
| 23:11.32 | Mexa_ | As I say, they're more tide up to esports. |
| 23:12.39 | Mexa_ | Marketing or not, made by Jademus or not, it started to become interesting somewhere. |
| 23:13.00 | Mexa_ | *Yogscast |
| 23:59.58 | *** join/#sc2mapster Bibendus (~Bibendus@ip-80-249-36-63.static.adsl.cheapnet.it) |
