| 00:00.38 | Bibendus | mexa |
| 00:00.41 | Bibendus | did u try it |
| 00:01.02 | SoulTaker916_ | hey |
| 00:01.04 | Mexa | The new DK version? |
| 00:01.14 | SoulTaker916_ | i copied a missly turret and weapons |
| 00:01.16 | Bibendus | y |
| 00:01.19 | Mexa | Not yet¨ |
| 00:01.24 | SoulTaker916_ | i want to stack 5 of the same weapons |
| 00:01.25 | Bibendus | aww |
| 00:01.29 | Mexa | I have had other things on my mind, sorry:p |
| 00:01.32 | SoulTaker916_ | i removed linked cooldown on the missles |
| 00:01.34 | Bibendus | :( |
| 00:01.38 | SoulTaker916_ | but it doesnt seem to be working |
| 00:01.41 | Mexa | I'll see if I can test it tomorrow. I gtg to bed soon. |
| 00:02.01 | Bibendus | lolz |
| 00:02.11 | Bibendus | all my hard workz and noone carez |
| 00:02.20 | Mexa | ._. |
| 00:02.21 | Kueken | tale of a mapper |
| 00:02.41 | Bibendus | ye |
| 00:02.51 | Mexa | I ahven't played sc2 in ages, that's all I have to say. My mind have been busy on other things. |
| 00:02.58 | Mexa | I care, when I have time. |
| 00:03.03 | Kueken | hm |
| 00:03.14 | Kueken | I don't even remember, when I really played sc2 |
| 00:03.22 | Bibendus | at least tribes ascend is giving me some satisfation |
| 00:03.31 | Kueken | must be at some map night a year ago or something |
| 00:05.32 | egod | http://www.livestream.com/tristramsc2RPGegod |
| 00:05.52 | Mexa | 6hours till my lab class begin. Laters all. |
| 00:21.39 | Bounty | JademusSreg |
| 00:33.19 | IskatuMesk | JademusSreg |
| 00:35.21 | Kueken | JademusSreg |
| 00:35.24 | Ahli | JademusSreg |
| 00:35.39 | ________________ | lol he must've not slept |
| 00:35.49 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:35.55 | Bounty | So what did you guys think of the map |
| 00:36.00 | Bounty | Iskatu and Ahli |
| 00:36.21 | IskatuMesk | it's fun, you should have some kind of indicator for that cooldown though (unless there is one and I don't see it) |
| 00:36.31 | ________________ | what map? |
| 00:36.34 | IskatuMesk | too bad sc2 can't handle 3d though. |
| 00:36.55 | Bounty | Its basically when the disc appears back in ur hand |
| 00:36.57 | Ahli | Very cool. Sometimes a bit to fast when you spawned in the middle of 4 guys and then u die after your spawn protection because some 5th guy's disc hits your back ;D |
| 00:37.00 | Bounty | thats when u can throw again |
| 00:37.14 | ________________ | oh trifac |
| 00:37.18 | Ahli | but chaos is part of the map |
| 00:37.33 | Bounty | It will be less chaotic with TDM imo |
| 00:37.41 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 00:37.45 | Ahli | so... GJ. I want voice chat with protoss voice! ;D sadly no zealot says great shot ;S |
| 00:37.59 | flyingspatula | is the only way to prevent fidget to just erase FieldAvatar (Unit) UI: Fidget +(33|33|0|33):30.0000:10.0000:4:1:90:90 ? |
| 00:38.00 | IskatuMesk | voice is easy. |
| 00:38.18 | Ahli | mesk makes you protoss voices, excellent, |
| 00:38.26 | Kueken | you can also remove the actor event for fidget |
| 00:38.30 | Kueken | I think |
| 00:38.33 | ________________ | ^ |
| 00:38.37 | flyingspatula | ah |
| 00:38.42 | flyingspatula | but |
| 00:38.51 | flyingspatula | that wont prevent me from using any of the animations later... nvm dumb question |
| 00:39.06 | Ahli | no, the map is bounty's small disc shooting map... |
| 00:39.40 | flyingspatula | bounty, if i ever did get around to attempting a 3d and it actually worked, would u even consider going 3d? |
| 00:39.58 | Kueken | tbh, I don't see a problem with 3d |
| 00:40.03 | flyingspatula | me either |
| 00:40.07 | Kueken | you can check height and you can set it |
| 00:40.11 | flyingspatula | but bounty is stubborn |
| 00:40.11 | Kueken | what more do you need? |
| 00:40.15 | flyingspatula | yeah |
| 00:40.37 | Kueken | but for that map, it might not really make sense |
| 00:40.54 | Ahli | you wouldn't hit much with 3 dimensions to aim ;S |
| 00:41.04 | Kueken | unless he wants to add something like jump or platforms or whatever |
| 00:41.07 | flyingspatula | i guess it sorta depends on the t ype of map |
| 00:41.09 | flyingspatula | area |
| 00:41.49 | IskatuMesk | Well, I was thinking like raised/lowered platforms and such |
| 00:41.51 | IskatuMesk | and bridges |
| 00:42.11 | IskatuMesk | aiming would be messy though |
| 00:42.33 | IskatuMesk | something like that deserves a real engine |
| 00:43.14 | flyingspatula | true but |
| 00:43.20 | flyingspatula | it still is fun to make things liek that |
| 00:43.34 | IskatuMesk | I guess you'd first have to work out how you want the discs to behave |
| 00:43.39 | IskatuMesk | if they trace the ground, bounce, etc |
| 00:44.55 | JademusSreg | Naw, I'm just busy. |
| 00:45.05 | IskatuMesk | Jade is probably like me. |
| 00:45.12 | IskatuMesk | It just has micro naps and spends half the day in a daze. |
| 00:45.25 | IskatuMesk | the other half drinking coffee by the bucketloads |
| 00:45.57 | JademusSreg | I mainline coffee and drink methamphetamine. Wait, I think I've been doing it wrong this whole time... |
| 00:46.18 | Taintedwisp | Iskatu I didnt know you were on SC2mapster :D |
| 00:46.53 | Taintedwisp | Crack my back and go on wile acid trips |
| 00:47.16 | flyingspatula | thats so weird... jadein ur third person demo, u didnt disable fidget at all. yet fidget never occurs |
| 00:47.31 | JademusSreg | shrugs. |
| 00:47.33 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 00:48.55 | IskatuMesk | do I know you? :3 |
| 00:50.07 | Kueken | I am fairly sure, Jade eats micro chips and drinks electric current |
| 00:50.25 | IskatuMesk | I was here when the site first appeared. But I didn't do anything with sc2 outside of heavy performance testing for a while, then I fucked off to do other stuff for a few years |
| 00:50.54 | Kueken | what made you come back? |
| 00:51.05 | IskatuMesk | I finished my last major project and decided to attempt a campaign |
| 00:51.40 | IskatuMesk | And most people I know can't answer my questions except for Jade |
| 00:51.52 | IskatuMesk | which I so happen to have been acquainted with somewhat since... what? 2001-2002? |
| 00:52.24 | IskatuMesk | I never knew him to be a mapper/modder, though. :3 |
| 00:52.29 | IskatuMesk | so, that was a pleasant surprise. |
| 00:57.15 | JademusSreg | Way back in the day at CC, before I knew anything about anything. |
| 00:57.50 | IskatuMesk | yep |
| 00:57.51 | IskatuMesk | then you vanished |
| 00:57.59 | IskatuMesk | and I pissed my life away |
| 00:58.45 | JademusSreg | I was busy being an itinerant, self-absorbed rake. Haha |
| 00:59.12 | IskatuMesk | I spent literally every day from 1999 to 2009 modding or writing or both |
| 00:59.28 | IskatuMesk | or trying to, at least |
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| 01:02.55 | Bounty | New Video is uploading now, halfway done :) |
| 01:03.21 | JademusSreg | What's new Bounty? |
| 01:03.23 | IskatuMesk | Cleaned up that shuttle. Now to detail it a bit. |
| 01:03.38 | IskatuMesk | Not sure what kind of attacks or abilities it will have. |
| 01:03.59 | IskatuMesk | I was thinking of trying to give it some kind of shield based on its mana, where it buffs a target unit with a shield that drains its mana. |
| 01:04.11 | IskatuMesk | of course, that'll be for my minions to figure out data-wise |
| 01:04.18 | IskatuMesk | since I am dumb and don't know anything like that in data. |
| 01:04.29 | IskatuMesk | aka, probably too complex to do. |
| 01:04.46 | JademusSreg | Well, if it has tactically-significant abilities, let me know. |
| 01:04.55 | Bounty | Sprint JademusSreg |
| 01:04.59 | Bounty | the most epic sprint ever |
| 01:05.11 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:05.13 | Bounty | You basically turn into The Flash |
| 01:05.15 | JademusSreg | With regards to that ability buff, totally doable. |
| 01:05.32 | IskatuMesk | http://i.imgur.com/8vFkk.jpg |
| 01:05.54 | JademusSreg | Behavior with a damage response effect to modify unit energy and a remove validator for energy > 0. |
| 01:06.22 | IskatuMesk | So basically, for weapons... the forward weapon will be a charge-up attack that deals line damage to air units in front of it. The top has some missile launchers that will attack random targets around it. It has some anti-surface tubes that will either drop attack drones (like the mustache lord mustaches) or fire missiles. |
| 01:06.41 | IskatuMesk | This will be the Necropolis equivalent of a Science Vessel |
| 01:06.43 | Bounty | :( |
| 01:06.47 | Bounty | we all did |
| 01:06.50 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:06.52 | Bounty | I REALLY awanted you in that video JademusSreg |
| 01:06.55 | Bounty | ur gonna love it |
| 01:07.03 | JademusSreg | Cool. |
| 01:07.13 | JademusSreg | I look forward to it. |
| 01:07.24 | IskatuMesk | Jade, I won't request tactical stuff for units until I get all of their abilities in and functional so I don't waste your time |
| 01:07.31 | JademusSreg | kk |
| 01:07.57 | IskatuMesk | at this point in time I am basically waiting on data to do much more then what I have except for assets and terrain |
| 01:08.16 | JademusSreg | Who is your data minion? |
| 01:08.19 | IskatuMesk | HKS |
| 01:08.22 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 01:08.28 | IskatuMesk | he is fairly new at it, but getting the job done... when he has time anyway |
| 01:08.30 | IskatuMesk | which isn't often |
| 01:08.42 | IskatuMesk | I would pick it up myself but I'm having a very hard time learning it. |
| 01:08.50 | Kueken | "data minion" |
| 01:09.29 | JademusSreg | If I weren't even more busy than usual, I would offer to contribute. |
| 01:11.46 | IskatuMesk | Oh. Jade. When this gets rather far, into the second chapter, there's a mission you could have real fun with tactical AI on. |
| 01:11.51 | IskatuMesk | kiting and micro and such. |
| 01:11.59 | IskatuMesk | Making the AI as much of a dick as possible. |
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| 01:12.12 | JademusSreg | Cool. That's right up my alley. |
| 01:12.37 | Kueken | the data minion needs sleep :p |
| 01:12.41 | Kueken | night, guys |
| 01:12.51 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 01:14.32 | Bounty | Also JademusSreg |
| 01:14.44 | Bounty | He lives in Canada |
| 01:14.44 | Bounty | IskatuMesk apparently had a 2 second delay |
| 01:14.49 | Bounty | ironically, he won a match |
| 01:14.51 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:14.55 | JademusSreg | Hah |
| 01:14.57 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 01:15.38 | IskatuMesk | I account that to my experience in twitch shooters and my recent dealings with reflex and read-based ARPG's. |
| 01:15.59 | IskatuMesk | Conan in particular. Dear god that game was horrible. |
| 01:16.11 | Bounty | Well you said you still had alot of fun right? |
| 01:16.18 | Bounty | Thats really all that matters |
| 01:16.24 | IskatuMesk | yeah, it was fun |
| 01:16.30 | IskatuMesk | reminded me a bit of my halo years |
| 01:17.14 | Xapti_ | conan? |
| 01:17.25 | IskatuMesk | yes, for the ps3 |
| 01:17.43 | IskatuMesk | think God of War, but extremely imbalanced, buggy, and untested |
| 01:18.03 | IskatuMesk | also, amazing voice acting |
| 01:18.09 | IskatuMesk | it was like a dub of a kung foo movie. |
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| 01:21.42 | Currydevil | Woo yeah! The scout movement is complete |
| 01:25.16 | Xapti_ | Unless I'm mistaken there's no way to force a player click command, right? |
| 01:25.32 | Xapti_ | Nor is there a way to find mouse position on keypress |
| 01:25.41 | Currydevil | Don't think so. |
| 01:25.43 | Currydevil | um |
| 01:25.44 | Xapti_ | That's so dumb and in my opinion |
| 01:25.53 | Xapti_ | *and annoying |
| 01:26.02 | Currydevil | well the mouse position.. is it a mouse click or keyboard ? |
| 01:26.07 | JademusSreg | If you're tracking mouse already, then it's not an issue. |
| 01:26.14 | Xapti_ | blizzard freaking dunces when designing this whole mouse and keyboard system |
| 01:26.24 | Xapti_ | yeahbut tracking mouse is way too laggy for multiplayer |
| 01:26.49 | Xapti_ | unless you know something I don't know |
| 01:27.05 | Xapti_ | stupid game deosn't track mouse position locally |
| 01:27.31 | Xapti_ | well doesn't record-it/make-it-available locally |
| 01:27.50 | Xapti_ | whole system is a complete fail |
| 01:27.57 | JademusSreg | That's a crude simplification. |
| 01:28.26 | Xapti_ | can you explain what you mean? |
| 01:29.03 | JademusSreg | The galaxy VM is synchronous, so anything it handles needs to be synchronous. I don't foresee galaxy allowing asynchronous, local client code. |
| 01:30.25 | Vailreth | i wish the marauder could shoot UP |
| 01:30.57 | Xapti_ | I'm not talking about local client code, I'm talking about the ability to use the mouse position as a variable without having to transmit the position of the mouse to every other player 60 times a second or whatever it is |
| 01:31.09 | JademusSreg | 16 times per game second. |
| 01:31.12 | Currydevil | just straight up above his head? I'm sure you could do that with a z projectile. |
| 01:31.25 | JademusSreg | And the former necessarily requires the latter. |
| 01:31.54 | Vailreth | i could make the missile go up but what i mean is an animation for attacking up at an angle |
| 01:32.05 | Currydevil | ohhh |
| 01:32.07 | Currydevil | Gotcha. |
| 01:32.15 | Vailreth | maybe with art tools when they release those |
| 01:32.25 | JademusSreg | Vail, add a turret bone to the model. =D |
| 01:32.46 | Currydevil | oh there ya go ;) then his arm swings ! |
| 01:32.49 | Taintedwisp | Hey jademus how do you get the Voidray in Photon cycles? i keep seeing people with it, how do you get it? |
| 01:32.51 | Currydevil | wherever the target is. |
| 01:33.03 | JademusSreg | Wisp, those players are moderators. |
| 01:33.08 | Taintedwisp | ah |
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| 01:34.36 | JademusSreg | The Custom Cycle Seasonal tournament is sometime around this weekend. Feel free to enter. |
| 01:34.46 | IskatuMesk | I am a moderator of butts |
| 01:34.55 | Xapti_ | I still think it's dumb there's no provision to get mouse position on any event as opposed to just mouse click |
| 01:35.08 | IskatuMesk | Also, cake. |
| 01:35.12 | JademusSreg | The moderators have put up the details on the facebook page (again, not mine, haha). |
| 01:35.22 | IskatuMesk | lol @ facebook |
| 01:36.06 | JademusSreg | Xap, it is inconvenient. Unless you're like me an you use an input capturing system that records all input to a struct. |
| 01:36.30 | Xapti_ | how does that change things |
| 01:36.40 | Vailreth | Jade i have been thinking about what you said and i think i will restrict the most powerful abilities to traget based while mid abilities are tagret point based and basic abilities are straight firing |
| 01:36.53 | JademusSreg | But then, if the event increases the sync load, then your suggestion just makes the sync load worse for every match. |
| 01:37.23 | JademusSreg | Alright, Vail. |
| 01:37.35 | Taintedwisp | sweet the tourny is the 15th |
| 01:38.16 | Vailreth | also i am going to try to apply Flyings gui version of you movement if you do not object? |
| 01:38.41 | JademusSreg | Xap, the problem I have with your complaint is not the sentiment (everyone wants everything to be easier), but rather the magical thinking involved. |
| 01:39.57 | Xapti_ | you're talking about how it would add extra load to all keypress events |
| 01:39.58 | flyingspatula | he doenst care vail, he made it for ppl to use |
| 01:40.05 | Xapti_ | wouldn't the increase be insignificant though? |
| 01:40.05 | JademusSreg | Making the value available necessarily means syncing that data, because locally-executed code is not supported by the VM. You want to eat cake and have cake. |
| 01:40.49 | Vailreth | nod but i am a formalities person and prefer those i can inform if i am using their stuff |
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| 15:20.41 | Dustin | hiii |
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| 15:32.21 | Ashamed | sup |
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| 15:36.55 | Mexa | Yeah Kueken, some of the operators work on points |
| 15:37.03 | Mexa | +, -, +=, -= |
| 15:37.11 | Kueken | didn't know that |
| 15:37.31 | Mexa | Blizzard even mentions it in the top of the natives.galaxy:P |
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| 15:57.45 | Ashamed | AHH this rootkit fuckign sucks |
| 16:08.55 | Mexa | Infested? |
| 16:17.15 | JademusSreg | Pew pew. |
| 16:19.24 | JademusSreg | Too bad the other arithmetic operators don't work, apparently. |
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| 17:05.48 | Vailreth | as Jade would say"Pew Pew" |
| 17:05.57 | Vailreth | hello folks |
| 17:07.58 | flyingspatula | sup vail |
| 17:08.16 | Vailreth | eh |
| 17:08.41 | Vailreth | i added endless waves of zerglings to my map and am working on the ability load outs |
| 17:09.34 | flyingspatula | haha nice |
| 17:12.39 | flyingspatula | lol im actually having that facing while moving issue |
| 17:12.43 | flyingspatula | bounty does it without any issue |
| 17:12.46 | flyingspatula | makes no sense to me |
| 17:12.57 | flyingspatula | facing a unit while moving interrupts the move |
| 17:13.25 | Vailreth | did you try disablling the Turnable flag in the unit? |
| 17:14.51 | flyingspatula | yeah |
| 17:15.06 | flyingspatula | but |
| 17:15.11 | flyingspatula | when i still try to force a rotaiton |
| 17:15.12 | flyingspatula | it stops |
| 17:16.03 | Vailreth | how are you making the unit face the desired direction? |
| 17:17.09 | flyingspatula | just face of x sec |
| 17:18.38 | Vailreth | i noticed like you did in my make unit face angle over seconds that any more than 0.0 makes it choppy maybe instead of smoothing the unit turning they key is to smooth the camera some how |
| 17:20.12 | flyingspatula | right 0,0 is just bleeds the eyes |
| 17:20.18 | flyingspatula | but 0.0 wont interrupt anything |
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| 17:46.42 | Dustin | Who wants to come test my map :D |
| 17:47.06 | JademusSreg | I'd like to later, when I'm less busy. |
| 17:47.09 | JademusSreg | Pew pew |
| 17:51.28 | flyingspatula | jade |
| 17:51.52 | flyingspatula | do u have any idea how when u use move order bounty has his guy facing other directions? |
| 17:52.08 | flyingspatula | if i use face blah over blah |
| 17:52.08 | flyingspatula | it only works if its isntant |
| 17:52.08 | flyingspatula | but looks sio bad |
| 17:53.50 | Zanam | wow... spent over an hour debugging a fatal map-does-nothing-on-load stack overflow error |
| 17:54.18 | Zanam | somehow, someway, a function was calling itself creating an endless loop. somehow... that function call wound up smack in the middle of a block of comments. |
| 17:54.35 | Zanam | why or how it got there... is a mystery. |
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| 17:55.48 | Vaer | question time |
| 17:56.18 | Vaer | can u make a missile model rotate and spin along the path for a mover |
| 17:56.27 | Vaer | i dont mean the overlays |
| 17:56.44 | Vaer | i dont want it rotating around the path to the target |
| 17:56.55 | Vaer | i want the actual model rotating as it moves |
| 17:57.04 | Vaer | can that be done with motion phases |
| 17:57.11 | Vaer | i know i can make it face the target |
| 17:57.24 | Vaer | bbut that seems to be my only option |
| 17:57.42 | Vaer | or do I need to animate it |
| 17:57.47 | Vaer | cause thats not coo |
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| 18:02.34 | JademusSreg | Fly, if the unit turn rate is 0, I expect it wouldn't turn when you give it move orders. Then you'd set unit facing to whatever you like. |
| 18:03.07 | flyingspatula | right but turning via trigger at all |
| 18:03.12 | flyingspatula | seems to interrupt the move order |
| 18:03.59 | JademusSreg | Interesting. Instead, you could set the actor facing. |
| 18:04.05 | JademusSreg | Erm, rotation. |
| 18:04.13 | flyingspatula | can that be set over duration? |
| 18:04.17 | flyingspatula | my issue with the current orde rmove |
| 18:04.21 | flyingspatula | is its not smooth rotation |
| 18:04.23 | flyingspatula | nomatter what i do |
| 18:04.33 | flyingspatula | its choppy |
| 18:04.35 | JademusSreg | Odd. |
| 18:04.46 | JademusSreg | What's the update rate and blend duration? |
| 18:05.06 | flyingspatula | blend duration for what exactly |
| 18:05.52 | JademusSreg | For unit facing. |
| 18:06.45 | Ashamed | ahhh |
| 18:07.06 | flyingspatula | ah i just try any value really Unit - Make Player[player].Units.avatar face (Current camera yaw of player player) over 0.3 seconds ive tried b4 and after my move order. still interrupts the move. |
| 18:07.21 | flyingspatula | sorry if thats not what u were asking. i just woke up 30 mins ago haha |
| 18:08.43 | flyingspatula | im really not sure why move order is even so choppy with rotation |
| 18:08.44 | JademusSreg | But with regards to choppiness, the blend duration is 0.3, it will either floor to 0.25 or round to 0.3125. |
| 18:09.16 | flyingspatula | right but i cant do a duration facing anyway it stops ur guy from moving |
| 18:09.18 | flyingspatula | or prevents it |
| 18:09.51 | JademusSreg | Odd. |
| 18:09.59 | flyingspatula | yeah i mus tbe doign somethign retarded |
| 18:10.06 | flyingspatula | but cant find out what |
| 18:10.09 | JademusSreg | Does the flag Turn Before Moving have any effect? |
| 18:12.03 | Vaer | the editor can only work in multiples of .062 |
| 18:12.05 | Vaer | or some shit |
| 18:12.20 | Vaer | google the actual number |
| 18:12.23 | JademusSreg | Game time is only meaningful in increments of 0.0625. |
| 18:12.48 | JademusSreg | Otherwise the value will be floored of the results of the value will be interpolated. |
| 18:12.57 | Vaer | right |
| 18:13.02 | JademusSreg | In data, it tends toward interpolation. |
| 18:13.30 | Kueken | also any fixed value has a maximum precision of 1/4096 |
| 18:13.36 | JademusSreg | Yep. |
| 18:13.43 | JademusSreg | *fractional precision |
| 18:14.34 | Kueken | the update rate for blend should be your FPS |
| 18:14.58 | Dustin | jade |
| 18:15.11 | Dustin | Got time to help me test? |
| 18:15.20 | Dustin | Maybe your connection is better |
| 18:15.30 | flyingspatula | why do i see blend duration always set to -1 |
| 18:16.51 | Kueken | so you want to change unit facing while moving? |
| 18:17.04 | flyingspatula | yeah |
| 18:17.10 | flyingspatula | i knlow im doign something retarded |
| 18:17.12 | flyingspatula | but no idea what |
| 18:17.42 | Kueken | a unit has to face the target point of the muve order, if it is turnable |
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| 18:18.09 | flyingspatula | but |
| 18:18.11 | Kueken | so changing the facing will always interrupt the movement |
| 18:18.15 | Kueken | you can however |
| 18:18.22 | Kueken | change the acor rotation |
| 18:18.25 | Kueken | *actor |
| 18:18.27 | flyingspatula | ah |
| 18:18.34 | Kueken | which is completely independend of the facing |
| 18:18.36 | Dustin | guys |
| 18:18.42 | flyingspatula | canit be done over a duration tho |
| 18:18.44 | flyingspatula | thats the issue |
| 18:18.54 | flyingspatula | order move seems to cause rotation to be not smooth at all |
| 18:19.05 | Kueken | the SetRotation actor message does not support a blend time afaik |
| 18:19.07 | JademusSreg | Dustin, my connection is usually crappy. But I'm currently busy; I can help test later in the evening. |
| 18:19.12 | Kueken | but you could do a workaround |
| 18:19.29 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 18:19.33 | Kueken | for example attach the unit actor to a turning model |
| 18:19.41 | Kueken | and adjust that model's animation speed |
| 18:19.50 | Kueken | works great, I did it before |
| 18:19.55 | flyingspatula | hmm |
| 18:20.02 | Vaer | missile turret ftw |
| 18:20.13 | Kueken | it is also included in Renee's Gax3 mod for easy use |
| 18:20.23 | Kueken | missile turret does not turn by itself |
| 18:20.30 | Kueken | so that wouldn't work |
| 18:21.24 | Kueken | I would use TechPurchasePortraitTurn.m3 |
| 18:21.42 | Kueken | since it is invisible, and basically nothing more than 1 single turning attachment point |
| 18:25.46 | Vailreth | i am trying to make a flame thrower ability for my marine but it always hits the caster as well |
| 18:26.57 | JademusSreg | Search Filters. =D |
| 18:27.05 | Vailreth | have no effect' |
| 18:27.11 | JademusSreg | Validators. |
| 18:27.18 | Vailreth | nope again |
| 18:27.26 | Vailreth | well im looking into them |
| 18:27.35 | Vailreth | but so far no luck |
| 18:28.34 | JademusSreg | For both search filters (exluding self and player) and validators (not caster) to fail, the effect would somehow have to be entirely divorced from the source. That seems unlikely. |
| 18:30.40 | JademusSreg | The search area should exclude self and player, and if the damage uses area, it should have the same search filter exclusions. And if you want extra protection, you'd have the damage area use a validator to make sure the target unit isn't the caster unit. |
| 18:31.27 | Vailreth | i am tyring those but still the search area finds the caster unit and applies damage effects to it |
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| 18:34.56 | Vailreth | what validator do you use to set up a not caster ? |
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| 18:37.07 | Bounty | Hay Guyz |
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| 18:38.18 | flyingspatula | bounty |
| 18:38.32 | Bounty | flyingspatula |
| 18:38.40 | flyingspatula | i really dont get how you made ur unit turn while move order. im srsly stumped man |
| 18:38.46 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:38.59 | flyingspatula | if u make it face angle/point over anything more than 0.0 |
| 18:39.02 | flyingspatula | it inttrrupts the move |
| 18:39.13 | Bounty | Well just think about it |
| 18:39.19 | Bounty | What woulod make it do that |
| 18:39.28 | flyingspatula | hn |
| 18:39.30 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 18:39.39 | Bounty | Ill make it easy for you |
| 18:39.44 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 18:39.56 | Bounty | What could you change about a unit that makes it so he can only be rotated manually |
| 18:40.18 | flyingspatula | by disabling its ability to rotate |
| 18:40.28 | Bounty | no |
| 18:40.29 | flyingspatula | disable turnable |
| 18:40.32 | Bounty | no |
| 18:40.35 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 18:40.40 | flyingspatula | set turn to 0? |
| 18:40.42 | flyingspatula | rate |
| 18:40.54 | Bounty | maybe |
| 18:40.57 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 18:41.08 | Bounty | Try them |
| 18:41.11 | Bounty | See if they work |
| 18:41.12 | Bounty | :) |
| 18:41.19 | flyingspatula | but even with that if u do say Unit - Make Player[player].Units.avatar face (Current camera yaw of player player) over 0.125 seconds it prevents move order |
| 18:41.30 | flyingspatula | hm ill try again i guess |
| 18:43.22 | Vailreth | i too am stumped i have no clue why the flame thrower ability, based on the firebats flamer thrower weapon is still hitting the caster |
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| 18:51.41 | tordy | wassup dudes |
| 18:53.14 | flyingspatula | hey bounty... that works but iguess u have to make it turn no less than the refresh rate huh |
| 18:53.23 | flyingspatula | still looks choppy as fuck i dont get it lol |
| 18:53.32 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:53.35 | Bounty | ull get it right :) |
| 18:53.44 | flyingspatula | i mean the movement is fine |
| 18:53.47 | flyingspatula | but when i turn |
| 18:53.53 | flyingspatula | it isnt smooth its like choppy |
| 18:54.40 | Bounty | Yeah i know |
| 18:54.43 | Bounty | but like i said |
| 18:54.44 | Bounty | ull get it right |
| 18:54.45 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:54.54 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 18:54.58 | flyingspatula | so u DID have that issue and found a fix |
| 18:55.09 | Bounty | nope, never had that issue |
| 18:55.12 | flyingspatula | fml |
| 18:55.15 | Bounty | haha |
| 18:55.23 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 18:55.27 | tordy | do you guys have an idea on how to tank from a distance? |
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| 18:59.58 | tordy | as in a unit taking damage for another unit far away? |
| 19:00.06 | JademusSreg | I seem to recall suggesting setting turn rate to 0 and setting it manually. =D |
| 19:00.15 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 19:00.15 | tordy | hi JademusSreg |
| 19:05.02 | flyingspatula | right jade lol but i have to manuallly turn it at a duration of like .0625 or else it wont work |
| 19:05.13 | flyingspatula | bc refresh loop |
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| 19:24.50 | JademusSreg | Pew pew |
| 19:25.04 | Bounty | Pew |
| 19:28.03 | Bounty | So, who wants to make the logo for Photon Discs for me? :) |
| 19:28.28 | tordy | do you know how to make a unit taking damage for another unit far away? |
| 19:29.29 | Bounty | i dont even know what you just said |
| 19:29.46 | IskatuMesk | interns |
| 19:30.15 | JademusSreg | You mean a damage redirect, yes? |
| 19:30.53 | tordy | somethin like that |
| 19:30.54 | tordy | yea |
| 19:31.12 | tordy | i dont want anything from the attacker's side tho |
| 19:31.24 | tordy | just editing data of the spell/effect |
| 19:32.22 | tordy | i know triggers could prob do this easily altho i'd prefer data only |
| 19:33.17 | JademusSreg | The most practical implementation I can think of is via trigger. |
| 19:33.54 | tordy | :[ |
| 19:34.23 | Kueken | you have no way in data to transfer damage from one unit to another afaik |
| 19:34.32 | Kueken | you can make both take the same damage |
| 19:34.42 | Kueken | and you can make one take no damage at all |
| 19:34.59 | tordy | i want 100% damage redirect |
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| 19:35.44 | Kueken | not possible in pure data, because as soon as you reduce the damage on one unit to zero, there is no way to get, how much damage was caused previously |
| 19:35.49 | Kueken | even with triggers |
| 19:35.53 | JademusSreg | Any unit takes damage -> local vars: string effect, unit damageUnit -> condition: if damagedUnit has someBehavior -> prevent the damage to damagedUnit and apply the effect to the source unit. This would probably require some unit indexing. |
| 19:36.39 | Kueken | thats a possibility, but has the problem, that triggers cannot reliably prevent damage |
| 19:36.53 | JademusSreg | That's okay. |
| 19:36.58 | JademusSreg | Make the behavior handle that. |
| 19:37.20 | Kueken | but if you set up the behavior to have 100% damage reduction |
| 19:37.28 | Kueken | you won't be able to detect damage again |
| 19:37.45 | JademusSreg | Touche. And imagine how many threads will be spawned with Any Effect. |
| 19:37.53 | Kueken | or do you mean just prevent death? |
| 19:37.58 | Kueken | that could work |
| 19:38.16 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 19:38.19 | tordy | maybe i could do this a diff way |
| 19:38.32 | JademusSreg | Prevent death flag, and from the trigger revert the effects. |
| 19:38.33 | Kueken | with triggers, you can heal the target after it took damage, so the only issues would be one-shots |
| 19:38.36 | JademusSreg | Doable. |
| 19:39.02 | JademusSreg | Even one-shots would be no issue. |
| 19:39.15 | JademusSreg | See: Incapacitation behavior/effect chain for example. |
| 19:39.17 | tordy | can you link units? |
| 19:39.19 | Kueken | no, they would be an issue without the behavior |
| 19:39.26 | JademusSreg | True.dat |
| 19:39.44 | Kueken | you can use the Conjoined buff |
| 19:39.44 | tordy | in some way that the unit will take damage for a specific unit |
| 19:39.53 | tordy | and only for that unit |
| 19:39.53 | Kueken | it makes 2 units share the same health pool |
| 19:40.00 | tordy | conjoined buff u say? |
| 19:40.02 | tordy | explain! |
| 19:40.13 | JademusSreg | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:40.14 | Kueken | but thats probably not what you need |
| 19:40.16 | JademusSreg | Funny stuff. |
| 19:40.27 | JademusSreg | Some destructables and the campaign train use it. |
| 19:40.28 | tordy | more! |
| 19:40.31 | Kueken | if you apply conjoined to 2 targets at the same time |
| 19:40.39 | Kueken | their health pools conjoin |
| 19:40.43 | tordy | what is this exactly |
| 19:40.52 | JademusSreg | Floors it, too, sadly. |
| 19:40.56 | Kueken | if you attack one unit, both take full damage |
| 19:41.20 | JademusSreg | Perfect for a Soul-Link-style spell, but not for damage redirect. |
| 19:41.22 | tordy | is there a way to reduce the damage one unit takes? |
| 19:41.27 | Kueken | yes |
| 19:41.28 | Kueken | but |
| 19:41.44 | flyingspatula | hey vailreth u busy |
| 19:41.52 | tordy | i mean what is this coinjoined thing |
| 19:41.53 | Kueken | conjoined automatically adjusts both units to the minimum max hp of both units |
| 19:41.57 | tordy | is it in data/trigger? |
| 19:42.00 | Kueken | data |
| 19:42.04 | tordy | what's it called |
| 19:42.09 | Kueken | behavior -> conjoined |
| 19:42.12 | tordy | where do you set it |
| 19:42.13 | tordy | ok |
| 19:42.51 | Kueken | don't count on it, though, I have the feeling you won't be able to use it for exactly what you want |
| 19:43.02 | tordy | i just wanna check it out |
| 19:43.09 | tordy | cuz i might have other uses for it |
| 19:43.10 | Kueken | feel free to :) |
| 19:43.18 | Kueken | did you play the campaign? |
| 19:43.23 | tordy | yea |
| 19:43.27 | Kueken | the train robbery? |
| 19:43.30 | tordy | a while ago i dont remember the details |
| 19:43.31 | tordy | yea |
| 19:43.33 | Kueken | the train uses conjoin |
| 19:43.34 | tordy | played all the missions |
| 19:43.52 | Kueken | so the train and all wagons count as one unit |
| 19:44.01 | Kueken | lose health and die simultaneously |
| 19:44.07 | tordy | but they're technically separate units? |
| 19:44.11 | Kueken | yes |
| 19:44.39 | tordy | is it just the damage they take? |
| 19:44.45 | Kueken | yes |
| 19:44.46 | tordy | what about behaviors |
| 19:44.51 | Kueken | hm |
| 19:44.54 | tordy | if one behavior applies to one |
| 19:44.57 | tordy | does it apply to the others? |
| 19:44.58 | JademusSreg | Just vitals. |
| 19:45.00 | Kueken | never tested that |
| 19:45.17 | Bounty | JademusSreg |
| 19:45.17 | Kueken | if one of them has damage reduction behavior... |
| 19:45.28 | Bounty | What do you think of the Main Menu layout ? |
| 19:45.33 | Bounty | http://i40.tinypic.com/96xpcp.jpg |
| 19:45.54 | Bounty | Once i get someone to make the logo i want for me the logo will be in the center background |
| 19:46.11 | Bounty | and the buttons will have pictures |
| 19:46.21 | Bounty | like FFA will have a bunch of ppl throwing discs at eachother etc |
| 19:46.25 | JademusSreg | Remove patch notes and controls. You won't need to put those in the map. =D |
| 19:46.33 | Bounty | Yes i will Jade |
| 19:47.00 | JademusSreg | I can assure you that you won't need to, but you're welcome to include them for the time being. |
| 19:47.01 | Bounty | Nobody reads loading screens lol |
| 19:47.17 | Bounty | So im not even putting anything but the logo as the loading screen |
| 19:47.36 | Bounty | and as you can see i have lots of room for more modes :) |
| 19:47.58 | JademusSreg | I take it the camera rotates around the board. |
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| 19:52.20 | Vailreth | sorry i was busy |
| 19:52.26 | Bounty | Yes JademusSreg |
| 19:52.27 | Bounty | of course :) |
| 19:53.04 | JademusSreg | Looks nice. Implement the changes I suggested yet? |
| 19:53.15 | Bounty | which ones? and no |
| 19:53.24 | Bounty | ive been doign this stuff so far |
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| 19:55.45 | JademusSreg | You know which ones, you glib monkey. |
| 19:56.06 | Mexa | Evenin' |
| 19:56.50 | Bounty | I want to test TDM before i make any changes Jade |
| 19:57.37 | flyingspatula | hey bounty, did u ever expeirment with toss grenade mover when doing ur discs? |
| 19:57.45 | Bounty | huh? |
| 19:57.49 | Bounty | no? |
| 19:57.54 | flyingspatula | the grenade toss mover allows u to |
| 19:57.58 | flyingspatula | set projectiles n shit |
| 19:58.04 | flyingspatula | and do all sorts of crap with it |
| 19:58.07 | Bounty | nah |
| 19:58.10 | Bounty | i have my own methods |
| 19:58.18 | flyingspatula | hm ok |
| 19:58.24 | flyingspatula | hard to find any1 whos actuall played with it |
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| 19:59.43 | Bounty | JAdemusSreg |
| 19:59.45 | Bounty | you should make my logo |
| 19:59.49 | Bounty | :) |
| 20:06.44 | flyingspatula | guess my facing issue was just the model iwas using |
| 20:07.11 | flyingspatula | but now my marine sorta flickers |
| 20:07.12 | JademusSreg | When I get time, sure. |
| 20:07.22 | flyingspatula | one issue after another |
| 20:07.57 | Bounty | Its really easy JademusSreg |
| 20:08.00 | Bounty | do you want me to PM u it? |
| 20:08.17 | JademusSreg | Sure. |
| 20:08.19 | flyingspatula | mexa ur smart like jade with sc2 right. join my map real quick and diagnose my problem |
| 20:09.11 | tordy | is it a visual issue involving models and animations |
| 20:09.20 | flyingspatula | me? |
| 20:09.30 | Mexa | hmm:P? |
| 20:09.34 | tordy | :) |
| 20:09.39 | flyingspatula | well |
| 20:09.51 | flyingspatula | its just my marine flickers sorta every second while moving |
| 20:10.11 | flyingspatula | only does it when i test map on bnet |
| 20:10.15 | Mexa | It's not like the one I showed you yesterday? |
| 20:10.20 | Mexa | Related to the camnera? |
| 20:10.24 | Mexa | *camera |
| 20:10.31 | flyingspatula | oh that |
| 20:10.36 | flyingspatula | i don tthink so |
| 20:10.45 | flyingspatula | bc it doesnt happen periodically |
| 20:10.50 | flyingspatula | but more like every second or two |
| 20:10.53 | Mexa | Hm. |
| 20:11.08 | Mexa | You run with the debug window open, yes? |
| 20:11.12 | flyingspatula | its not real noticable |
| 20:11.13 | flyingspatula | but still is |
| 20:11.38 | flyingspatula | uh no lol how do i do that *fail* |
| 20:12.33 | flyingspatula | nvm |
| 20:12.38 | flyingspatula | idiot mooment there |
| 20:16.38 | flyingspatula | everythign actually looiks good on debugger |
| 20:16.46 | flyingspatula | like th eissue only happens on bnet |
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| 20:27.26 | Currydevil | Iskatumesk, are you there? I have a request for you if you are able (and willing =P ) |
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| 20:33.28 | IskatuMesk | hi |
| 20:33.29 | IskatuMesk | wat u need |
| 20:33.38 | flyingspatula | how come player teams are whack... |
| 20:33.47 | flyingspatula | player 1-7 r on team 2 and team 1 the rest, biut it sset the other way |
| 20:35.39 | tordy | lobby teams dont seem to work well for me either |
| 20:35.49 | tordy | so i resort to setting teams using attributes |
| 20:35.55 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 20:35.58 | flyingspatula | well i just want to make sure i have |
| 20:36.08 | flyingspatula | players 1-7 on one team and 8-12 on other |
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| 20:47.35 | Vailreth | and im back again |
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| 20:51.12 | flyingspatula | hey vail |
| 20:51.18 | Vailreth | sup |
| 20:51.23 | flyingspatula | could u join my map for a few mins in a few? |
| 20:51.24 | flyingspatula | if not thats fine |
| 20:51.28 | Vailreth | sure |
| 20:51.31 | flyingspatula | jus twant to test lag |
| 20:51.34 | flyingspatula | cant really do anything in it |
| 20:52.52 | Vailreth | i see well im ready when you are |
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| 20:54.17 | flyingspatula | kk |
| 20:54.33 | flyingspatula | im rdy ;p |
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| 21:20.53 | Ashamed | s3x monkeyz |
| 21:23.53 | Ahli | http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/1057/screenshot2012041223204.jpg |
| 21:30.32 | flyingspatula | nice |
| 21:32.20 | JademusSreg | A bit too heavy on the property labels below the life bar. |
| 21:32.29 | JademusSreg | EXTRA LIFE EXTRA LIFE EXTRA LIFE =D |
| 21:33.00 | Ahli | oh, yes |
| 21:33.56 | Ahli | I need to tweak it a bit more. I've multiple modifiers for the unit and it can be that it gains extra life 1 more time... the last extra life belongs to the extra life regeneration |
| 21:34.06 | Xapti | wow cool |
| 21:34.11 | JademusSreg | And to improve text readability in general, I'd suggest a contrasting backdrop scaled to the label dimensions, like a rounded-corner, almost oblong drop shadow texture. |
| 21:34.15 | Xapti | never sesen custom font before |
| 21:34.52 | Xapti | flyingspatula |
| 21:35.00 | flyingspatula | hey jade, do u understand at all how to get actual players 1-7 on team 1 and 8-12 on team 2. its so weird |
| 21:35.02 | Xapti | I've done a fair bit with toss grenade and moves |
| 21:35.10 | Xapti | *movers |
| 21:35.14 | flyingspatula | orly xapti, the mover is sooo complex |
| 21:35.18 | Xapti | yeah |
| 21:35.23 | flyingspatula | does it bounce off shit |
| 21:35.26 | flyingspatula | like cliffs |
| 21:35.30 | Xapti | but I like using data intead of trigger when possible |
| 21:35.35 | flyingspatula | yeah |
| 21:35.43 | Xapti | (too bad both are too lacking in features for my liking) |
| 21:35.46 | JademusSreg | Fly, the Players On Team # function returns a playergroup, for one thing. |
| 21:35.52 | JademusSreg | I must mention that whenever possible. |
| 21:36.07 | flyingspatula | right, but im more refering to |
| 21:36.11 | flyingspatula | like i cant seem to get |
| 21:36.14 | flyingspatula | ACTUAL player 1 |
| 21:36.17 | flyingspatula | on team 1 in the lobby |
| 21:36.19 | Vailreth | i dont get this my missles damage ammount is set to 100 but the zerglings maybe get a tenth of that |
| 21:36.23 | flyingspatula | its all whacked up |
| 21:36.28 | JademusSreg | (Because it's ridiculous how often people make an action to add players from the team playergroup to another playergroup.) |
| 21:36.37 | flyingspatula | u sure its not in the effects part vail |
| 21:36.43 | JademusSreg | And it returns correctly. |
| 21:37.00 | Xapti | I don't think I had issues with that flyingspatula |
| 21:37.11 | flyingspatula | jade so are u saying playergrp from team1-2 of lobby feature is good or bad |
| 21:37.15 | Vailreth | i mean the damage effect is set to 100 |
| 21:37.36 | Ashamed | hey ahli your map is looking good |
| 21:38.08 | JademusSreg | If you want to control team composition, say, for autobalance features, you might use it as a suggestion. |
| 21:38.27 | flyingspatula | well |
| 21:38.32 | JademusSreg | But the function itself returns correctly. |
| 21:38.35 | flyingspatula | its like at the very beggning of the game |
| 21:38.45 | JademusSreg | I'm not sure what issue you're having... |
| 21:38.47 | flyingspatula | i make a team 1 and 2 playergrp and add players to that |
| 21:38.56 | flyingspatula | and I just use like |
| 21:39.06 | flyingspatula | if player < 7 or something |
| 21:39.08 | flyingspatula | for team 1 |
| 21:39.21 | Ahli | Ashamed, thx :D I just need to get corbo to work to make me models that aren't existing in WoW ;D |
| 21:39.22 | JademusSreg | playergroup GameAttributePlayersForTeam (int team); |
| 21:39.22 | flyingspatula | then i can always use playergrps after that |
| 21:39.35 | JademusSreg | It already returns a playergroup directly. |
| 21:39.38 | JademusSreg | Right there. |
| 21:39.39 | flyingspatula | oh |
| 21:39.46 | Ashamed | lol |
| 21:39.47 | flyingspatula | ;p |
| 21:39.49 | flyingspatula | ok ill use that |
| 21:39.50 | flyingspatula | XD |
| 21:39.52 | Ashamed | make your own! |
| 21:39.52 | JademusSreg | So you can commit it directly to a variable. |
| 21:39.53 | flyingspatula | but even so |
| 21:39.53 | Ahli | and then it can't be long until I release the next stage of my map. |
| 21:40.01 | flyingspatula | i still cant get |
| 21:40.17 | flyingspatula | in the lobby player 1 u know red blue blah traditional colors associated |
| 21:40.25 | flyingspatula | like player 1-7 want to be on team 2 |
| 21:40.30 | flyingspatula | in lobby |
| 21:40.57 | Xapti | i don't know what you're saying |
| 21:41.02 | JademusSreg | ^ |
| 21:41.04 | flyingspatula | sry im just confused as to WHAT player is actually player 1 player 2 etc |
| 21:41.12 | JademusSreg | Player slots. |
| 21:41.15 | JademusSreg | Done. |
| 21:41.17 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 21:41.21 | flyingspatula | but |
| 21:41.21 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 21:41.25 | JademusSreg | The player slot is the player number. |
| 21:41.25 | flyingspatula | in terms of the lobby t hough |
| 21:41.35 | flyingspatula | like |
| 21:41.48 | flyingspatula | so is it dependant on when u join the lobby or |
| 21:41.52 | Xapti | yes |
| 21:41.56 | flyingspatula | oh ok |
| 21:41.59 | flyingspatula | see thats my problem haha |
| 21:42.02 | Xapti | and you can control the order too I think |
| 21:42.13 | Xapti | like if you want the first player to join to be player 8, I think yo ucan do that |
| 21:42.22 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 21:42.49 | Xapti | I have even players on team 1, odd players on team 2 |
| 21:42.51 | JademusSreg | Simply use the Players in Team # and allocate it directly to a variable. |
| 21:43.01 | JademusSreg | Then you can balance them however you like. |
| 21:43.01 | flyingspatula | ok ill do that |
| 21:43.02 | Xapti | (or the other way around, I don't know) |
| 21:43.03 | flyingspatula | thx |
| 21:43.12 | flyingspatula | is that how it works xapti? |
| 21:43.17 | flyingspatula | the lobby itself just is funky |
| 21:43.29 | Xapti | well I don't know if that's default |
| 21:43.39 | Xapti | but that's how mine works after I set it up to be like that |
| 21:43.52 | JademusSreg | Team 1 = (Players on team 1) <Player Group> |
| 21:43.54 | JademusSreg | See? |
| 21:44.00 | Xapti | There's a player options window in the editor where you can change all that tuff |
| 21:44.09 | JademusSreg | Supar ease. |
| 21:44.56 | flyingspatula | haha right jade im doing that now :P |
| 21:45.12 | Xapti | I sset all player colors on the same team to the same color |
| 21:45.20 | Xapti | looks kinda cool that way |
| 21:45.33 | flyingspatula | yeah i may do that |
| 21:45.36 | flyingspatula | but i udnno |
| 21:46.13 | Xapti | depends on the type of game. like not as optimal for stuff like dota where players have different characters and different roles and stuff |
| 21:51.10 | Xapti | does progammer come here under a different name, or does he not come here at all? |
| 21:56.51 | JademusSreg | The latter, I expect. |
| 21:57.57 | Mexa | ~seen progammer |
| 21:57.59 | purl | progammer <4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 172d 15h 9m 42s ago, saying: 'for the swarm rock style http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7x-sCwCI9o'. |
| 22:07.13 | flyingspatula | horribkle |
| 22:07.14 | flyingspatula | video |
| 22:07.19 | flyingspatula | music |
| 22:20.06 | Dustin | ~seen Dustin |
| 22:20.11 | purl | dustin is currently on #sc2mapster. Has said a total of 7 messages. Is idling for 5s, last said: '~seen Dustin'. |
| 22:20.37 | Dustin | nice. |
| 22:20.38 | Ahli | ~seen Ahli |
| 22:20.38 | purl | ahli is currently on #sc2mapster. Has said a total of 6 messages. Is idling for 0s, last said: '~seen Ahli'. |
| 22:20.50 | Ahli | I have messages, how to read them? |
| 22:21.05 | Ahli | I'm an irc noob :S |
| 22:31.07 | Xapti | woah ihave 22 messages |
| 22:31.40 | *** join/#sc2mapster Bounty (442ccc3b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.44.204.59) |
| 22:31.48 | Bounty | JademusSreg, do you think you'll be able to do that Logo today? |
| 22:32.44 | Xapti | Ahli the messages are just what you've said |
| 22:34.58 | Ahli | oh, right... I can't read ;D |
| 22:38.13 | Bounty | nom |
| 22:38.25 | flyingspatula | hey bounty |
| 22:38.29 | flyingspatula | just curious |
| 22:38.34 | Bounty | sup |
| 22:38.47 | flyingspatula | did u make ur player name text on unit thru data editor or trigger. i know u can do it in data editor only |
| 22:38.54 | flyingspatula | gonna tyr it that way |
| 22:38.55 | flyingspatula | in data |
| 22:38.58 | Bounty | play name text? |
| 22:39.01 | flyingspatula | yeah |
| 22:39.02 | Bounty | i use text tags via triggers |
| 22:39.05 | Bounty | duh |
| 22:39.09 | flyingspatula | right but |
| 22:39.24 | flyingspatula | does it stay with the unit at all times? |
| 22:39.27 | flyingspatula | i thot u had to iudpate it nonstop |
| 22:39.31 | Bounty | ??? |
| 22:39.31 | Ahli | attach to unit, done |
| 22:39.35 | Bounty | attach to unit |
| 22:39.38 | Bounty | DERP |
| 22:39.40 | Bounty | HERP DERP |
| 22:39.55 | Bounty | I should smack you spatula |
| 22:39.57 | Bounty | thats an easy one |
| 22:39.58 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:39.58 | flyingspatula | lmao |
| 22:40.04 | flyingspatula | well ive never tired it JEEZ |
| 22:40.07 | flyingspatula | and it didnt work |
| 22:40.10 | flyingspatula | so i guess i did osmethign retarded |
| 22:40.59 | *** join/#sc2mapster Helral (Helral.EU@54182E89.cm-5-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
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| 22:55.37 | flyingspatula | dont get why my text tags wont show up |
| 22:57.41 | Vailreth | it nay be drawing too low on the z |
| 22:58.58 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 22:59.28 | flyingspatula | gdsagjkdsagdsa |
| 23:06.45 | Vailreth | ok fixed the flame thrower |
| 23:07.32 | Vailreth | cant wait for the art tools so i can add a walking shooting animation for the marine |
| 23:19.36 | Vailreth | now just to figure out the right actor events to get my marine to play the proper animation for each ability |
| 23:27.26 | Bounty | Testing new big update for Photon Discs on US, who wants in? Adds Team Deathmatch |
| 23:29.15 | Bounty | vailreth |
| 23:29.17 | Bounty | currydevil |
| 23:29.18 | Bounty | flyingspatula |
| 23:29.20 | Bounty | TDM? |
| 23:29.56 | Bounty | one more needed |
| 23:30.17 | Vailreth | sorry Bounty |
| 23:38.42 | Dustin | if youre looking when i get back from my cigarette i will |
| 23:40.03 | Bounty | well its official |
| 23:40.09 | Bounty | first test of the new menu |
| 23:40.12 | Bounty | and team deathmatch |
| 23:40.15 | Bounty | worked 100% |
| 23:42.16 | Bounty | of course my team lose |
| 23:42.18 | Bounty | 38 - 40 |
| 23:48.42 | Dustin | back |
| 23:57.27 | Bounty | Photon Discs testathon tonight |
