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| 00:01.37 | flyingspatula | hey jade, any idea why camera fucks up when it colides with terrain? if i make my custom terrain wall when the camerea collides under the terrain it trips out |
| 00:02.27 | JademusSreg | "Fucks up" and "trips out" are not as informative as I would like. |
| 00:03.18 | flyingspatula | lmao |
| 00:03.19 | flyingspatula | sry |
| 00:04.02 | flyingspatula | like imagine a terrain plateu maybe 2 cliff height, when my unit gets near the slope and turn my camera collides with the terrain slope |
| 00:04.21 | flyingspatula | the problem is, which i thought only happened with cliffs but its all terrain. the camera distance will suddenly skip around in value |
| 00:04.21 | JademusSreg | And goes through it? |
| 00:04.41 | flyingspatula | it clips thru it a bit but the cam distance gets changed instead |
| 00:04.54 | flyingspatula | i wouldnt mind if it went thru the terrain |
| 00:05.18 | JademusSreg | And what system is responsible for adjusting the camera distance? Hardcoded? |
| 00:06.15 | flyingspatula | i believe so |
| 00:06.21 | flyingspatula | i just have it set to 1 |
| 00:06.35 | flyingspatula | i even restricted the max distance yet when it collides with terrain |
| 00:06.39 | flyingspatula | it goes whacko on its own regardless |
| 00:07.48 | JademusSreg | I've not enountered this issue in my own work. Bounty is likely to have experience with this. |
| 00:08.02 | flyingspatula | lol he always says UR DUMB I DONT HAVE PROBLEM LOL SUX2BU |
| 00:09.44 | flyingspatula | gonna try forcing it to 1 distance nonstop |
| 00:09.46 | flyingspatula | see what that does |
| 00:10.25 | JademusSreg | Also, you'll need to isolate the problem. For instance, disable all other code besides just what is necessary to allow you to rotate the camera into the terrain. |
| 00:10.48 | flyingspatula | right ill do that |
| 00:11.29 | flyingspatula | i mean tbh its not hugely noticeable at first, but when u have a map planned with many kinds of walls or cliffs ud quickly realize it |
| 00:12.16 | flyingspatula | actually i still have ur tpv map u made ill test it on that |
| 00:13.09 | flyingspatula | ok fail i somehow broke that one |
| 00:14.46 | flyingspatula | could u maybe piossibly send me a copy of thirdpersondemo i broke ur last one somehow |
| 00:14.53 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 00:15.02 | flyingspatula | lol im good at breaking other ppls maps |
| 00:15.13 | JademusSreg | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/StarCraft%202/Demos/ThirdPersonDemo.SC2Map |
| 00:15.32 | flyingspatula | i feel bad for always bugging u all the time since every1 does lol |
| 00:15.45 | JademusSreg | It's for what I am here. |
| 00:15.50 | flyingspatula | XD thats good to hear |
| 00:18.24 | flyingspatula | damn yeah does it on ur map as well |
| 00:18.33 | JademusSreg | Haaaaardcoded. |
| 00:18.37 | flyingspatula | laaaaaaaame |
| 00:18.38 | flyingspatula | WAAAAAAAAI |
| 00:18.47 | flyingspatula | i thot if i did my own fake cliffs itd be fine but NOPE |
| 00:18.52 | flyingspatula | its terrain in general i guess |
| 00:19.18 | flyingspatula | SO STOOPID |
| 00:19.24 | flyingspatula | just like the pathing limit on how small |
| 00:21.08 | flyingspatula | lol yea if u have a cliff or raised terrain on both sides and try to look around |
| 00:21.10 | flyingspatula | its bad |
| 00:26.28 | flyingspatula | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:26.50 | flyingspatula | or is that what makes ur cam height move with terrain |
| 00:34.58 | flyingspatula | if i could make a decent camera collision i could maybe offset that |
| 00:35.04 | flyingspatula | but anything i make never works right |
| 00:35.38 | flyingspatula | wha tiahve sofar sometimes prevents my camera from going under stuff or thru walls i dont want, but most of the time it doesnt help |
| 00:39.59 | flyingspatula | would u be able to look at my cam collision function jade? id try to make it understandable |
| 00:40.07 | Vailreth | can you use triggers to seet the cool down amount of an ability |
| 00:42.02 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 00:42.28 | Vailreth | gui or custom script? |
| 00:44.34 | JademusSreg | Both. |
| 00:44.54 | flyingspatula | if i were to show u a snippet of code jade, how would u prefer i were to show it |
| 00:45.07 | JademusSreg | Too busy to look, atm |
| 00:46.22 | flyingspatula | ok thats fine |
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| 01:05.12 | Vailreth | hmm how do you use add cool down to unit ability? |
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| 18:21.08 | Vailreth | any body not at work or otherwise occupied by real life? |
| 18:24.17 | Kueken | <- |
| 18:24.30 | Kueken | or do you mean in general? |
| 18:26.06 | Vailreth | just in general but nice to see some one else here |
| 18:32.25 | Vailreth | im wondering should stress test the wasd system im using before creating the abilities for the map |
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| 18:36.33 | IskatuMesk | JademusSreg |
| 18:36.36 | IskatuMesk | Make THQ stop existing. |
| 18:36.41 | IskatuMesk | Use your magic. |
| 18:40.00 | Kueken | you should probably test, if the delay is bearable, yes |
| 18:40.14 | Vailreth | thought so |
| 18:40.27 | Vailreth | im goning to grab some lunch brb |
| 18:40.37 | Kueken | if bnet delay makes your desired gameplay straight up unplayable, it makes no sense to force it in |
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| 19:00.07 | Vailreth | the desired gameplay is possible just the method of movement im use is suspect |
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| 19:12.58 | flyingspatula | ill test with u if u want if u need |
| 19:13.03 | flyingspatula | im working on a wasd map too so |
| 19:13.30 | flyingspatula | wasd isnt too bad at all if u dont plan on making an actual crosshair shooter that requires precision and instant reaction timing |
| 19:13.33 | Vailreth | thanks |
| 19:14.34 | flyingspatula | did u decide to go with data/ability wasd or trigger |
| 19:14.43 | Vailreth | trigger |
| 19:14.49 | flyingspatula | ah ok |
| 19:14.50 | flyingspatula | cool |
| 19:15.40 | flyingspatula | what kind of map is urs gonna be |
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| 19:16.12 | Bounty | Hay Guyz |
| 19:16.26 | flyingspatula | spekaing of |
| 19:16.36 | Bounty | ? |
| 19:16.38 | Vailreth | i was thinking first of a marine death match arena but i also had the idea for an Invasion type where you survifve multiple rounds of invading creatures |
| 19:16.47 | Vailreth | hey Bounty |
| 19:16.55 | Bounty | Howdy Vailreth |
| 19:16.57 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 19:17.11 | flyingspatula | well if you are wanting precise shooting etc wasd migh tnot be the way to go |
| 19:17.15 | flyingspatula | but bounty knows more about that |
| 19:17.29 | flyingspatula | just bc u cant have quick reaction time |
| 19:17.56 | Vailreth | my biggest hurtle appears to be getting the abilities to fire while moving |
| 19:18.02 | flyingspatula | oh |
| 19:18.18 | flyingspatula | as in the traceline |
| 19:18.19 | flyingspatula | or |
| 19:18.25 | flyingspatula | you mean just |
| 19:18.41 | Vailreth | i mean just being cast while the unit is moving |
| 19:18.42 | flyingspatula | making it cast ability while ordeirn gi around/moving |
| 19:18.43 | flyingspatula | ah |
| 19:18.48 | flyingspatula | thats pretty simple |
| 19:19.13 | flyingspatula | are u insta moving or order move |
| 19:20.02 | Vailreth | i think its order movie |
| 19:20.38 | Vailreth | yeahs its an order movie |
| 19:20.41 | Vailreth | move* |
| 19:21.24 | flyingspatula | well |
| 19:21.36 | flyingspatula | i know u can do like ss_figthershooting while moving |
| 19:21.46 | flyingspatula | so i cant see why u couldnt make ur own |
| 19:21.48 | flyingspatula | that doesnt require |
| 19:22.28 | flyingspatula | bounty knows these things more than me |
| 19:22.32 | flyingspatula | bounty |
| 19:22.34 | flyingspatula | whers ur ass |
| 19:23.50 | Bounty | ? |
| 19:24.14 | flyingspatula | vail is having trouble |
| 19:24.20 | flyingspatula | with attackins while moving |
| 19:24.43 | Bounty | how? |
| 19:24.45 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:26.06 | Vailreth | well i cant get the abilities to cast while the unit is moving because its being ordered to move with the wasd controlls i am trying |
| 19:26.35 | Bounty | oh |
| 19:26.40 | Bounty | search mapster for |
| 19:26.43 | Ahli | check the transient flag in the ability. |
| 19:26.45 | Bounty | ability while moving |
| 19:26.53 | Bounty | there is a thread explaining it |
| 19:27.05 | Vailreth | when i turn on transient the abilities do not cast at all |
| 19:28.32 | Ahli | remove cast/prepare/channel time. check the immediate (or something like that) flag in the ability. |
| 19:30.13 | flyingspatula | brb lmk if u figure it out vailreth |
| 19:30.36 | Kueken | transient targeted abilities do not work afaik |
| 19:30.53 | Kueken | at least they didn't when I tried |
| 19:30.59 | Kueken | a couple of patches ago |
| 19:33.10 | Kueken | if you used wasd, you could probably use a different casting system anyway |
| 19:33.39 | Kueken | like diablo-style casting, always cast targeted abilities instantly at the location of your cursor |
| 19:35.55 | Vailreth | my casting is like that i am using a modfied version of Onetwos diablo tutorial |
| 19:36.36 | Ahli | start the effects from the unit. just don't use an ability to start the effects. |
| 19:36.42 | Kueken | well, you don't even need real abilities then |
| 19:36.48 | Kueken | exactly |
| 19:37.01 | Vailreth | i do not understand |
| 19:37.15 | Ahli | you can run effects via trigger |
| 19:37.22 | Kueken | start the effect you would use for your ability via trigger |
| 19:37.35 | Ahli | you can specify which unit uses them onto which unit/point. |
| 19:38.00 | Kueken | <- types too slow :( |
| 19:38.23 | Ahli | try harder |
| 19:38.32 | Kueken | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/images/40/93/Preserver.jpg |
| 19:38.42 | Kueken | what do I make of those? ^^ |
| 19:39.06 | Ahli | power rangers |
| 19:39.32 | Vailreth | i dont really feel like going through all of that for this maybe if it were a serious project i could do that but i really dont want to |
| 19:39.33 | Kueken | and the box is my megazord .D |
| 19:40.50 | Kueken | then dont :) |
| 19:50.30 | flyingspatula | vailreth did u ever figure it out? |
| 19:52.00 | flyingspatula | vailreth u could just order unit to cast the ability |
| 19:52.04 | flyingspatula | and replace existing orders |
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| 19:52.35 | Bounty | Looks like my map is going to be open field lol |
| 19:52.42 | flyingspatula | what map |
| 19:52.43 | Bounty | apparently detecting corners of walls is... hard |
| 19:52.58 | Bounty | Photon Discs |
| 19:53.01 | flyingspatula | oh |
| 19:54.17 | Mexa | Study some applied collision physics, and you're good to go.4 |
| 19:54.39 | Bounty | yeah because thats easy |
| 19:54.51 | Mexa | Isnt't the discs running at constant velocity anyway? |
| 19:54.52 | Bounty | i have collision but its within a box |
| 19:55.03 | Bounty | but if i have walls within that box |
| 19:55.09 | Bounty | the corners are them the discs get stuck |
| 19:55.24 | Mexa | Yes, you need to add a velocity vector to the disc, to detrmine from where it was sent |
| 19:55.57 | Bounty | You must be new here, i'm Bounty |
| 19:56.07 | Bounty | I have no idea what you're saying lol |
| 19:56.15 | Mexa | .__ |
| 19:56.39 | Mexa | I thought you knew some of these this at least :P |
| 19:56.52 | Bounty | nope |
| 19:56.56 | Bounty | i just use basic collision |
| 19:57.01 | Bounty | 180 - facing |
| 19:57.03 | Bounty | and 0 - facing |
| 19:57.17 | Mexa | mm, |
| 19:57.23 | Bounty | works perfectly |
| 19:57.36 | Mexa | Gotta say I even think it's easier working with radians. |
| 19:58.00 | Mexa | But oh well |
| 19:58.15 | flyingspatula | bounty |
| 19:58.19 | Bounty | i see no issue with an open field imo |
| 19:58.24 | Bounty | >< |
| 19:58.29 | flyingspatula | is ur issue when it is directly thrown at the corner |
| 19:58.31 | flyingspatula | it gerts stuck? |
| 19:58.45 | Bounty | its not even the corner |
| 19:58.47 | flyingspatula | oh |
| 19:58.50 | Bounty | its the edge of the wall |
| 19:59.23 | Kueken | well, mexa, since every function in SC2 operates with degrees, radians might not be the obvious choice |
| 19:59.33 | Mexa | I know Kueken |
| 19:59.45 | Mexa | I was only speaking in general |
| 19:59.59 | Kueken | :) |
| 20:00.06 | flyingspatula | sc2 math is americanized |
| 20:00.14 | Mexa | Since galaxy forces one to use degrees in pretty much their entire API, there isn't much to do about that |
| 20:00.46 | flyingspatula | hey bounty does your disk bounce off cieling n shit too? |
| 20:00.55 | Kueken | jass had radians for everything but unit facing ;) |
| 20:00.59 | Bounty | no |
| 20:01.03 | Bounty | why would i do that spatula |
| 20:01.04 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:01.20 | flyingspatula | i mean cant the disk bounce off any wall? |
| 20:01.26 | Bounty | yeah |
| 20:01.35 | flyingspatula | so how could it not bounce off the cieling sometimes |
| 20:01.49 | flyingspatula | im assuming ur doing a tronlike |
| 20:01.54 | Kueken | ceiling = bnorth or ceiling = actual z height? |
| 20:02.06 | Bounty | .......... |
| 20:02.08 | flyingspatula | whole concept of tron disks is u have every side to bounce from |
| 20:02.11 | Bounty | its 2D spatula |
| 20:02.16 | flyingspatula | oh |
| 20:02.17 | flyingspatula | meh |
| 20:02.19 | Kueken | :) |
| 20:02.20 | flyingspatula | make it 3! |
| 20:02.21 | Bounty | you try doing it in 3D |
| 20:02.23 | Kueken | thought so |
| 20:02.27 | flyingspatula | hows it hard? |
| 20:02.27 | Bounty | let me know how that works out for u |
| 20:02.31 | Bounty | try it |
| 20:02.34 | flyingspatula | just |
| 20:02.37 | Bounty | no |
| 20:02.39 | Bounty | do it |
| 20:02.42 | Bounty | dont explain it |
| 20:02.46 | Bounty | do it lol |
| 20:02.49 | flyingspatula | factor in height |
| 20:02.53 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:02.54 | Bounty | no |
| 20:02.54 | flyingspatula | but why would i do it, id accomplish nothing i the long wrong doing it |
| 20:03.02 | Bounty | it cant be done |
| 20:03.09 | flyingspatula | it defintely can |
| 20:03.11 | Bounty | nobody has done 3D unit moving |
| 20:03.19 | Bounty | all 3D shooting you see is not even actual shooting |
| 20:03.25 | Bounty | its just hitscan |
| 20:03.58 | flyingspatula | huh? but those are two completely different things |
| 20:04.11 | Bounty | no they are not |
| 20:04.19 | Bounty | your talking about 3D moving AND bouncing projectiles |
| 20:04.24 | Bounty | you're* |
| 20:04.25 | flyingspatula | right |
| 20:04.28 | Bounty | cant be done |
| 20:04.53 | flyingspatula | i think otherwise but ok |
| 20:04.59 | Bounty | thats fine lol |
| 20:06.08 | Kueken | not possible as in not playable in a final game? |
| 20:06.21 | Bounty | not in sc2 editor |
| 20:06.22 | Kueken | or not doable at all, regardless of any delay or whatever |
| 20:06.23 | Bounty | u cant do it |
| 20:06.31 | Bounty | like not possible at all |
| 20:06.36 | Bounty | thats why nobody has done it lol |
| 20:06.43 | Bounty | everyone just uses hitscan for 3D shooting |
| 20:06.47 | Bounty | and simulates projectiles |
| 20:07.09 | Mexa | The only issues with 3d bouncing would be having the missile faced right in its trajectory |
| 20:07.25 | flyingspatula | 3d bouncing is relatively easy |
| 20:07.25 | Mexa | Since the 'set rotation' on actors doesn't work properly |
| 20:07.29 | flyingspatula | its been done countless times |
| 20:07.32 | flyingspatula | but yes as mexa stated |
| 20:07.35 | Bounty | show me spatula |
| 20:07.35 | flyingspatula | if its not a sphere |
| 20:07.38 | flyingspatula | graphically it own tlook nice |
| 20:07.53 | Bounty | are you talking about 3D bouncing PERIOD or in sc2? |
| 20:07.53 | flyingspatula | bounty they even did it in wc3 which a much older editor |
| 20:08.00 | Bounty | we're talking about sc2 |
| 20:08.09 | Bounty | cannot be done |
| 20:08.12 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 20:08.14 | flyingspatula | which cannot be done |
| 20:08.27 | Bounty | ur more than welcome to proove me wrong when ur map is done though |
| 20:08.40 | flyingspatula | what exactly are you stating cant be done though |
| 20:08.51 | Bounty | 3D Projectile + 3D Bouncing |
| 20:08.57 | Mexa | The sc2 editor and the engine is for the most of it far more powerful than vanilla wc3 will ever be, |
| 20:09.48 | Kueken | in data or in general? |
| 20:11.05 | Mexa | Generally, wouldn't you say? |
| 20:11.34 | Mexa | Bounty, yes, alot of efforts have been done to even have such things as these to work in wc3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw4w8cH2g3I |
| 20:11.45 | Mexa | But if it works there, it isn't impossible in sc2. |
| 20:12.11 | flyingspatula | thats exactly |
| 20:12.12 | flyingspatula | what i was refeirn go |
| 20:12.14 | flyingspatula | that video |
| 20:13.17 | flyingspatula | the cieling works similar to the ground when it reaches a max/min height it will bounce off |
| 20:14.09 | flyingspatula | you can keep track of the angle |
| 20:14.19 | flyingspatula | when it hits the ground or wall and ascends to the max cieling |
| 20:15.05 | flyingspatula | well atleast if u can make i tbounce off the floor that would be enough |
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| 20:17.01 | flyingspatula | but u basically just need to keep track of the disks trajectory angle when thrown and every time it collides with a wall |
| 20:17.57 | flyingspatula | not trying to prove anyone wrong, i think itd be a fun map but even more fun if u had all directions to throw it at |
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| 20:54.55 | Vailreth | any one know why the camera rocks or seems to shake when i use look at and follow unit for player |
| 20:57.16 | IskatuMesk | Interns getting shaken around the bucket sometimes causes camera noise. |
| 21:01.29 | Kueken | Vailreth: iirc this has to do with the turn speed of the unit |
| 21:01.48 | Kueken | reduce turn speed a little, and it improves |
| 21:03.52 | Vailreth | that didnt help |
| 21:07.16 | Vailreth | the camera yaw jitters back and forth |
| 21:07.33 | Vailreth | even if the unit is stationary |
| 21:09.22 | Kueken | damn, I had this issue, but cannot find my test map anymore... |
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| 21:10.01 | Mexa | damn net |
| 21:10.07 | Mexa | or damn freenode |
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| 21:19.43 | Bounty | >< |
| 21:21.05 | Mexa | Bounty, btw, I thought you already had projectiles moving on the ground plane bouncing already working in Battlefield Egypt!? |
| 21:21.18 | Bounty | bouncing? no |
| 21:21.24 | Bounty | not realistically lol |
| 21:21.56 | Mexa | I would not say moving a unit linearly in any movement is considered realistic:P |
| 21:21.57 | flyingspatula | you just need to find the right gravity and velocity adjustments |
| 21:22.31 | flyingspatula | is your bouncing issue getting the height adjustments looking good? or bouncing off crap other than the ground |
| 21:24.21 | Mexa | Bounty, what about those? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=X2KzABG26PE#t=547s |
| 21:24.29 | flyingspatula | ive been having jump issues all week, i keep working on it then give up then work again. |
| 21:24.35 | Mexa | I see thm bounce for a starter. |
| 21:25.01 | Bounty | yeah like i said |
| 21:25.05 | Bounty | not realistically |
| 21:25.12 | Bounty | they just bounce 180 degrees |
| 21:25.14 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:25.18 | Bounty | not liket he discs i have now |
| 21:25.23 | Bounty | which bounce realistically |
| 21:25.26 | Mexa | oh, right |
| 21:25.30 | Mexa | So that's what you mean. |
| 21:25.36 | Mexa | Alrighty |
| 21:25.45 | Vailreth | how are people trying to do jumps? |
| 21:25.53 | Bounty | the discs i have for this map |
| 21:25.56 | Bounty | bounce like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5aLQo_AYNk |
| 21:26.12 | flyingspatula | that music... |
| 21:26.26 | flyingspatula | vailreth i gave up trying to do jump through data edtior |
| 21:26.40 | Mexa | Gotcha. |
| 21:26.49 | flyingspatula | just bc mines complex and allows u to jump on and off objects as well as cliffs |
| 21:27.30 | Bounty | i mean |
| 21:27.34 | Bounty | for what my issue is atm |
| 21:27.46 | Bounty | not sure what i could do |
| 21:27.52 | Bounty | since i use regions for bouncing |
| 21:30.58 | Mexa | Talking about bouncing, it reminded me of this mod: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isJfCV4vRJw |
| 21:31.04 | Mexa | It as pretty fun |
| 21:31.06 | Mexa | *was |
| 21:31.44 | Mexa | Can't seem to find any othe good video showcasing it ._. |
| 21:31.50 | flyingspatula | i rimemeber as imilar map to that |
| 21:31.57 | flyingspatula | cant remember what it was called |
| 21:32.05 | Mexa | Pudge wars? |
| 21:32.18 | flyingspatula | nah it was actual throwing projectiles |
| 21:32.22 | Mexa | (though tha t had no bouncing balls, only lots of chains) |
| 21:32.23 | flyingspatula | and bouncing them off shit |
| 21:32.24 | flyingspatula | to kill |
| 21:32.32 | flyingspatula | lol pudge wars |
| 21:32.36 | Mexa | :p |
| 21:32.55 | Bounty | all i know is my map is leet |
| 21:32.56 | Bounty | >< |
| 21:32.59 | Bounty | ppl love it |
| 21:33.06 | Bounty | i just need more than an open playing field |
| 21:35.10 | Vailreth | i know its sill but i have a data/trigger based jump now |
| 21:35.32 | flyingspatula | whats it based off |
| 21:35.50 | Vailreth | its not good practice im sure but its a behavior |
| 21:35.55 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 21:36.01 | flyingspatula | well mines 100% trigger so i dunno |
| 21:36.31 | flyingspatula | like a jump is really ez to make its just |
| 21:36.41 | flyingspatula | i have so much other crap with it |
| 21:36.46 | flyingspatula | way 2 much overhead |
| 21:38.41 | Vailreth | this is purely asthetic sadly |
| 21:38.56 | flyingspatula | ah |
| 21:39.09 | flyingspatula | what behavior did u use |
| 21:39.10 | Vailreth | just found that out |
| 21:39.23 | Vailreth | i just used a buff with hight time |
| 21:39.29 | flyingspatula | well i have to update my flyheight/etc in a loop so |
| 21:39.30 | flyingspatula | ah |
| 21:39.58 | Vailreth | im just goofing off right now |
| 21:40.07 | Kueken | I went for a missile-based jump |
| 21:40.21 | Vailreth | i have that in a project for reapers |
| 21:41.02 | Kueken | it just looks so much smoother, if it flies in an actual parabola |
| 21:41.09 | Vailreth | is that same project i made a roach variant that can jump cliffs |
| 21:41.20 | flyingspatula | well |
| 21:41.23 | flyingspatula | tbh |
| 21:41.29 | flyingspatula | i just use my own kind of gravity |
| 21:41.35 | flyingspatula | wen uwalk off the side of a cliff or steep terrain |
| 21:41.38 | *** join/#sc2mapster Stranger (whois@108.161.113.155) |
| 21:41.38 | flyingspatula | u just freefall downward |
| 21:42.09 | flyingspatula | also |
| 21:42.17 | Vailreth | i wonder how badly HoTS is going to break projects |
| 21:42.18 | flyingspatula | i started doign parabolic but then i realized for a spacebar jump |
| 21:42.38 | flyingspatula | you should make the height accel/decel parabolic like |
| 21:42.40 | flyingspatula | but not the movement |
| 21:42.45 | Kueken | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.52 | flyingspatula | whats worng iwth 1.5 |
| 21:43.16 | Kueken | until now, every single one of the major mapping-related sc2 updates broke major parts of my map |
| 21:43.17 | Ahli | I never had serious problems with patches ;D |
| 21:43.23 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 21:43.24 | Kueken | 1.4 being by far the worst |
| 21:43.41 | Mexa | TFT did not break RoC maps. Why would HotS break WoL? |
| 21:43.52 | Kueken | yes, I know, I seem to only abuse bugs and mechanics Blizzard intends to fix |
| 21:44.11 | Ahli | did tft introduce a new map format? |
| 21:44.15 | Mexa | Yes |
| 21:44.32 | Kueken | tft patch 14 broke a ton of maps ;) |
| 21:44.37 | Mexa | both w3m and the w3x format was compatible with the expansion. |
| 21:44.54 | Kueken | also quite some mechanics got changed |
| 21:44.55 | Vailreth | its nit so much breaking them for WoL its more when you try to update them for HoTS |
| 21:45.03 | Mexa | Kueken, many maps got broken when they were abusing flaws in jass, for instance |
| 21:45.10 | Kueken | :) |
| 21:45.11 | flyingspatula | hex editign crap yes |
| 21:45.22 | Kueken | flaws that existed for years |
| 21:45.24 | Mexa | Such as code to int and back, and handle to int and back. |
| 21:45.30 | Deaod | and that they fixed despite previously saying that the bug wouldnt be fixed |
| 21:45.31 | Kueken | and made great maps possible |
| 21:45.32 | flyingspatula | but those |
| 21:45.34 | flyingspatula | were useful mexa |
| 21:45.47 | Kueken | they didnt say it wouldnt be fixed |
| 21:46.12 | Mexa | Well, Blizzard substituted H2I to a GetHandleId native |
| 21:46.16 | Deaod | i distincly remember a wc3c newsletter of sorts having exactly such a statement |
| 21:46.21 | Mexa | Which was nice enough |
| 21:46.21 | Kueken | they just didnt care, as long as it was considered to be harmless |
| 21:46.31 | Vailreth | i hope the speed up the attribute to veterancy to stats calculations |
| 21:46.43 | Vailreth | for morphing heros |
| 21:46.46 | Mexa | Deaod, and the arbitrary execution for instance, was something that got pretty serious. |
| 21:47.11 | Deaod | yes, and i still think they could have fixed that bug without breaking backwards compat |
| 21:47.27 | Mexa | You mean by removing code to int? |
| 21:47.47 | Ahli | like scbw just patched out writing outside the designed area in the RAM... ;S patched out a lot of potential for crazy cool SC 1 mapping possibilities (like changing weapons during runtime) or just writing a virus into RAM with triggers o0 |
| 21:47.51 | Kueken | they just could have removed the possibility to access memory out of wc3 |
| 21:47.57 | Mexa | Quite frankly, I rarely used that, I never saw the usefulness. |
| 21:48.08 | Mexa | Apart from storing them in arrays |
| 21:48.22 | Mexa | Still, you could still do so by using boolexprs. |
| 21:48.26 | Deaod | no, by fixing the underlying bug that allowed to execute arbitrary code |
| 21:48.44 | Mexa | Well, but what did that destroy? |
| 21:48.46 | Kueken | yes, and you still can, afaik |
| 21:48.57 | Mexa | Can what? |
| 21:49.13 | Kueken | the boolexpr thing never got fixed, iirc |
| 21:49.28 | Mexa | I did not remmber boolexpr having issues. |
| 21:49.32 | Mexa | *remember |
| 21:49.40 | Mexa | Elaborate. |
| 21:49.57 | Kueken | wait, thats my memory failing |
| 21:50.09 | Kueken | it was the preload function having the issue |
| 21:50.14 | Deaod | yeah |
| 21:50.26 | Mexa | oh, hm? |
| 21:50.44 | Deaod | Jesus4Lyf i think demonstrated that bug. |
| 21:50.48 | Kueken | yep |
| 21:51.00 | Mexa | Oh yes, that! |
| 21:51.03 | Deaod | thehelper.net should have a description |
| 21:51.06 | Mexa | I remember now. |
| 21:51.12 | Mexa | But that was patched, was it not? |
| 21:51.18 | Deaod | i think not |
| 21:51.26 | Kueken | I dont remember it either |
| 21:51.27 | Mexa | hmm, I recall it was. |
| 21:51.32 | Mexa | Unsure |
| 21:51.45 | Kueken | but there were still patches, after I left WC3 |
| 21:51.46 | flyingspatula | yeah i consider jesus for thehelper like jade for sc2maspter XD |
| 21:51.52 | Kueken | so I cant say for sure |
| 21:52.15 | flyingspatula | its a shame thehelper didnt migrate well into sc2 |
| 21:52.18 | flyingspatula | most ppl still wc3 |
| 21:52.40 | Deaod | well, seeing how sc2 has a number of faults mapping wise... |
| 21:52.53 | Kueken | the entire sc2 mapping comunity is just a shadow of WC3 |
| 21:53.53 | Kueken | also, the map marketplace doesn't help |
| 21:54.17 | Deaod | well, its missing anyway |
| 21:54.20 | Kueken | in WC3, more people would just share their stuff |
| 21:54.55 | Kueken | now, many people see the possibility to cash out and keep everything they discover to themselves |
| 21:55.52 | Mexa | Hmm, I was certain Blizzard did patch that preload exploit, considering they did care about the populrity of DotA |
| 21:56.16 | Kueken | it wasn't THAT well-known, though |
| 21:56.50 | Ahli | what's special to discover in sc2? My biggest discovery would be that I can "store" the starting time of a buff within its runtime instance. That's what I'm using to make my own buff dialog |
| 21:56.55 | Mexa | http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=400876 apparantly seems to have worked as of 01-18-2011 |
| 21:57.09 | Mexa | not sure when the recent patch was made for wc3 |
| 21:57.33 | Kueken | I found the usage of Texture Select by ID to be a very entertaining discovery :) |
| 21:59.10 | flyingspatula | no idea what that even does |
| 21:59.35 | Kueken | not to mention there are probably millions of potentially actor fields we don't understand |
| 21:59.46 | Ahli | ^^ |
| 21:59.57 | Kueken | flyingspatula: |
| 21:59.57 | Kueken | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/images/40/93/Preserver.jpg |
| 22:00.14 | Ahli | but that's just the understanding what was intended for us to be able to do |
| 22:00.24 | Kueken | this you can do with texture select by id in pure data |
| 22:00.26 | Kueken | for example |
| 22:00.29 | flyingspatula | hmm |
| 22:00.46 | Kueken | no importing, no model editing |
| 22:01.10 | Ahli | with hots you can make more stuff because there are even more assets we can use ^^ |
| 22:01.12 | flyingspatula | but it jus tlooks like u changed the glow |
| 22:01.33 | Mexa | herpderp I need some dinner!ยจ |
| 22:01.36 | Kueken | the glow is a texture, yes :) |
| 22:01.42 | flyingspatula | oh lol |
| 22:01.44 | Kueken | got more examples |
| 22:02.14 | Kueken | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/texture-swap-testmap/images/12-example/ |
| 22:02.37 | Kueken | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/images/32/472/4.jpg |
| 22:02.40 | Kueken | and so on |
| 22:03.06 | Kueken | (stop me, I got tons of those) |
| 22:05.13 | Mexa | Lol at using the mercenary portrait |
| 22:05.45 | Kueken | :> |
| 22:05.57 | Kueken | the testmap uses some loading screens as well |
| 22:07.03 | Mexa | http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/3551/sc2assimulatorbug.jpg |
| 22:07.21 | flyingspatula | hmmm thats kinda useful i can see now |
| 22:07.59 | Ahli | it's the banshee portrait :S |
| 22:07.59 | Kueken | its just some eyecandy, but I like it :D |
| 22:08.22 | Ahli | I liked the faces on the terrain and glowing siege tanks... and glowing hatcheries |
| 22:08.47 | Mexa | My friends would notice that at once and say "wtf, did that guy take that and did that?" |
| 22:08.57 | Mexa | :> |
| 22:09.11 | Kueken | heh |
| 22:09.26 | Kueken | I might actually have an idea, what caused that buc |
| 22:09.35 | Kueken | had similar issues when playing around |
| 22:09.46 | flyingspatula | i would prolly try experimenting with that stuff if i could figure out my damn jump, whole week and still cant decide how i wanna do it |
| 22:09.58 | Ahli | awaiting wisdom transfer |
| 22:11.43 | Kueken | its very interesting, if you declare a texture, which is used by a unit, and you declare another texture, which uses the same slot, it can happen, that the unit swaps the texture without you specifically setting it up |
| 22:12.21 | Bibendus | hive keeper 0.10 is out |
| 22:12.22 | Kueken | and the assimilator uses texture select by id in the campaign, so it actually has textures declared |
| 22:12.36 | Ahli | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/project-workplace/15581-hive-keeper-dungeon-keeper-mod/?page=16#p309 |
| 22:12.45 | Ahli | damned, u were faster, bibendus ;D |
| 22:12.46 | Bibendus | yes this |
| 22:12.47 | Bibendus | lol |
| 22:13.00 | Bibendus | YOU were kinda fast to read and post it |
| 22:13.05 | Bibendus | at my same time |
| 22:13.05 | Bibendus | :D |
| 22:13.28 | Bibendus | trying to publish in us |
| 22:13.30 | Ahli | I'm only randomly F5ing main page and check for updates... |
| 22:13.40 | Bibendus | lol |
| 22:14.46 | Bibendus | where the hell is the registry key :| |
| 22:15.27 | Mexa | Yay Bibendus :D It's an update"! |
| 22:15.34 | JademusSreg | Pew pew |
| 22:15.36 | Bibendus | yeah it is |
| 22:15.38 | Bibendus | and big too |
| 22:15.50 | Ahli | [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Blizzard Entertainment\StarCraft II Editor\Preferences] |
| 22:15.50 | Ahli | "BattleNetCharacterProfile"="name#123" |
| 22:15.50 | Ahli | "BattleNetAccount"="bibendus@usbnet.com" |
| 22:15.50 | Ahli | "BattleNetHost"="us.logon.battle.net" |
| 22:15.56 | Bibendus | ye just found it |
| 22:16.05 | Ahli | make a file ;D I did ^^ |
| 22:17.05 | Bibendus | publishing on us too |
| 22:17.12 | Bibendus | ye I did the fuckin file :D |
| 22:18.24 | Bibendus | UP now |
| 22:18.41 | Bibendus | I hope this thing deserves a news |
| 22:18.45 | Bibendus | even if I didn't make a video :P |
| 22:27.31 | Dustin | ? |
| 22:28.09 | IskatuMesk | Ahli |
| 22:28.10 | IskatuMesk | sup |
| 22:29.01 | Dustin | Woot |
| 22:29.05 | Dustin | time to go play this shit |
| 22:29.24 | Bounty | play what shit |
| 22:30.23 | Vailreth | how do you make a unit face a point |
| 22:30.38 | Bounty | i should slap you |
| 22:30.47 | Bounty | Trigger Action - Make Unit Face Point |
| 22:30.51 | Vailreth | yeah |
| 22:31.02 | Vailreth | i searched for something similar and didnt find it then |
| 22:31.07 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:31.14 | Bounty | yeah searching is kinda meh |
| 22:31.20 | Bounty | doesnt always return the stuff it should |
| 22:33.26 | Bibendus | bounty don't you think it's time to play hive keeper? |
| 22:33.34 | Bounty | no |
| 22:33.35 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:33.52 | Bounty | but thats just me >< |
| 22:33.53 | Bibendus | then your mind is screwed |
| 22:34.06 | Bounty | that sound about accurate |
| 22:34.32 | Bibendus | yea kinda |
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| 22:40.08 | SoulTaker916_ | JADE I SUMMON THEEE |
| 22:40.10 | SoulTaker916_ | RISE UP!!! |
| 22:40.15 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 22:40.25 | *** join/#sc2mapster Talila_ (~Lilianna@97-93-24-46.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com) |
| 22:40.38 | SoulTaker916_ | i need server time |
| 22:40.42 | Kueken | oh my god |
| 22:40.45 | SoulTaker916_ | how do i get the current server time? |
| 22:40.48 | JademusSreg | Not available. |
| 22:40.52 | Kueken | he has the power to summon the almighty jade |
| 22:41.00 | Bounty | Everyone does... |
| 22:41.03 | SoulTaker916_ | can i get any external time? |
| 22:41.08 | Kueken | no |
| 22:41.11 | JademusSreg | (I just happened to be looking at the irc window at that moment.) |
| 22:41.16 | Bounty | He comes when people are in need of answers they cannot understand |
| 22:41.21 | Bounty | Yes |
| 22:41.25 | Bounty | I summon him all the time |
| 22:41.27 | Dustin | Bibendus |
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| 22:41.38 | Dustin | Should add a Top Down view |
| 22:41.41 | SoulTaker916_ | im atually just lucky |
| 22:41.44 | Kueken | external program updating a bank file maybe o_0 |
| 22:41.46 | Dustin | Cause I cant see shit tilted |
| 22:41.50 | SoulTaker916_ | he has come every time ive summoned him without fail |
| 22:41.54 | SoulTaker916_ | Jade |
| 22:42.00 | Bibendus | what dustin |
| 22:42.04 | SoulTaker916_ | i need a time that exist outside the game? |
| 22:42.05 | Bibendus | you can |
| 22:42.05 | SoulTaker916_ | anything |
| 22:42.06 | Bibendus | K L |
| 22:42.10 | JademusSreg | There's no way to get server time. Not unless you want to write a program that updates a bank the map can read on init. |
| 22:42.12 | Bibendus | press them |
| 22:42.16 | Bibendus | O P K L |
| 22:42.20 | Bibendus | rotate and change camera |
| 22:42.30 | SoulTaker916_ | well i can |
| 22:42.31 | Dustin | nice |
| 22:42.38 | SoulTaker916_ | but i need a time |
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| 22:42.58 | SoulTaker916_ | i need to know how long the banks been closed |
| 22:43.28 | JademusSreg | Can't be done without third party tools. |
| 22:43.55 | JademusSreg | And even then, you'd need to use banks updated by an external application. |
| 22:44.02 | SoulTaker916_ | na |
| 22:44.08 | Dustin | And it only works on map load |
| 22:44.11 | SoulTaker916_ | i need to compare bank close time with current time |
| 22:44.12 | JademusSreg | Yep. |
| 22:44.18 | Dustin | You cant write to a bank and read it in during the game sadly |
| 22:45.09 | SoulTaker916_ | i thought i could pull a date ro somthing in galaxy? |
| 22:45.15 | Kueken | nope |
| 22:45.21 | Kueken | doesn't exist |
| 22:45.26 | JademusSreg | ^ |
| 22:45.28 | SoulTaker916_ | god damit blizzard sucks ass |
| 22:45.32 | Kueken | you can get playtime, not much more |
| 22:45.38 | Vailreth | ok i am trying to get the unit to face the position of the mouse cursor in the world |
| 22:46.02 | Bibendus | k goin to sleep |
| 22:46.08 | Bibendus | I hope someone will test my map |
| 22:46.13 | Bibendus | cuz i need feedback as fast as possible :D |
| 22:46.20 | Bounty | advertise bro |
| 22:46.22 | Vailreth | but first i will be right back |
| 22:46.26 | SoulTaker916_ | what about "current time of day" |
| 22:46.28 | Bibendus | already did |
| 22:46.29 | SoulTaker916_ | seems about right? |
| 22:46.38 | SoulTaker916_ | but thats not what i want? |
| 22:46.49 | Kueken | its ingame days |
| 22:46.58 | Kueken | maps can do a day/night cycle |
| 22:47.16 | SoulTaker916_ | there has to be a way |
| 22:47.23 | SoulTaker916_ | to establish how long a banks been clsoed |
| 22:47.26 | Kueken | if you find one, notify me :) |
| 22:47.27 | SoulTaker916_ | this is pissing me off |
| 22:47.30 | *** join/#sc2mapster Sixen (~Sixen@173-25-23-124.client.mchsi.com) |
| 22:47.30 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ |
| 22:47.42 | Kueken | sixen awoke |
| 22:47.42 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:47.52 | Bounty | so basically u want a bank that runs while ur not playing the map Soultaker |
| 22:48.18 | Sixen | ;) |
| 22:50.47 | SoulTaker916_ | kinda |
| 22:50.50 | Bibendus | gives Sixen a hearty slap |
| 22:50.52 | SoulTaker916_ | but thats not posisble |
| 22:51.01 | Bibendus | sixen |
| 22:51.01 | Bibendus | this |
| 22:51.03 | Bibendus | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/hive-keeper/forum/news/35205-hive-keeper-v0-10-beta-released/?unread |
| 22:51.08 | Bibendus | no video but |
| 22:51.13 | Bibendus | ... still a news :D |
| 22:51.15 | SoulTaker916_ | so to compensate i was going to use close time and open time to extrapolate the time elaspe |
| 22:51.59 | Sixen | make a video! :P |
| 22:52.59 | Ahli | predators with 360 damage is unfair ;S |
| 22:53.26 | Ahli | they just rushed through the dungeon and killed my army ;S |
| 22:55.15 | Bibendus | sigh |
| 22:56.27 | Ahli | units that do nothing look strange (especially mutalisk). they do that, when they have nothing to do |
| 22:56.35 | Bibendus | i'll try to make a vid :( |
| 22:57.35 | Ahli | the rotation after loosing is to fast. I can't keep watching it :S |
| 22:58.51 | Bibendus | predators |
| 22:58.53 | Bibendus | don't do aoe |
| 22:58.56 | Bibendus | on hive keeper |
| 22:59.08 | Bibendus | mutalisk have a missing animation xD |
| 22:59.12 | Bibendus | and don't know how to fix it |
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| 22:59.34 | Bibendus | gives Ahli a hearty slap |
| 22:59.36 | Bibendus | suggestion |
| 22:59.41 | Bibendus | conquer the portal fast |
| 22:59.46 | Bibendus | before ordering to dig too big areas |
| 22:59.49 | Bibendus | so you'll have more units |
| 23:00.06 | SoulTaker916_ | is there a significant issue with extending spine crawler range? |
| 23:00.14 | Ahli | I died after 50 minutes of something like that |
| 23:00.17 | SoulTaker916_ | should graphically handle it right? |
| 23:00.25 | Bibendus | 50? |
| 23:00.29 | Bibendus | and how could u die by predators |
| 23:00.30 | Bibendus | xD |
| 23:00.33 | Bibendus | they suck |
| 23:00.42 | Bibendus | did you try traps |
| 23:00.42 | Ahli | they had 360 damage ^^ |
| 23:00.47 | Ahli | yes |
| 23:01.04 | Bibendus | i ll check if I forgot to remove their ability |
| 23:01.05 | Bibendus | lol |
| 23:01.11 | Bibendus | I tought I had |
| 23:01.58 | Bibendus | i ll go to sleep |
| 23:01.58 | Bibendus | cya :D |
| 23:02.04 | Ahli | wait 1 min ;D |
| 23:02.05 | Bibendus | leave some feedback in the forum if you want |
| 23:02.07 | Bibendus | tell me |
| 23:02.22 | Ahli | you can fix the error blue pic thing with text display and sound |
| 23:02.22 | Ahli | ^^ |
| 23:02.38 | Bibendus | oh |
| 23:02.39 | Bibendus | lol |
| 23:02.46 | Bibendus | ye I never understood this thing |
| 23:02.47 | Bibendus | xD |
| 23:02.50 | Bibendus | but i m lazy |
| 23:02.51 | Ahli | me neither ^^ |
| 23:02.51 | Bibendus | lolz |
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| 23:03.02 | Bibendus | cya |
| 23:03.04 | *** part/#sc2mapster SoulTaker916_ (~SoulTaker@108-88-97-1.lightspeed.mtryca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 23:03.06 | Bibendus | and remember |
| 23:03.07 | Bibendus | forum :P |
| 23:03.10 | Ahli | good night ;D |
| 23:03.13 | Bibendus | n8 |
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| 23:51.02 | *** join/#sc2mapster Taintedwisp (adbc8252@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.188.130.82) |
| 23:51.13 | Taintedwisp | Jademus you there? |
| 23:51.18 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 23:51.25 | Taintedwisp | I wanted you to know that my older bro has a woody for your map |
| 23:51.28 | Taintedwisp | Photon Cycles |
| 23:51.29 | Taintedwisp | ldol |
| 23:51.37 | JademusSreg | Cool. |
| 23:52.10 | Taintedwisp | lol, He said the only things he would like, is a mode that puts ramps, I told him that would be difficult |
| 23:52.23 | JademusSreg | It is possible. |
| 23:52.32 | JademusSreg | Might even be in the next major content update. |
| 23:52.38 | Taintedwisp | Awesome |
