| 01:01.54 | Currydevil | Oh how nice it would be if one could copy/paste actor events from one actor to another. |
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| 01:35.06 | JademusSreg | You can. |
| 01:35.09 | JademusSreg | Switch to XML view. |
| 01:36.44 | Bounty | speaking of xml |
| 01:36.52 | Bounty | feel like making that layout file for me real quick jade? :) |
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| 01:42.55 | JademusSreg | I have time to test now. |
| 01:44.12 | Bounty | nothing much to test atm, we can test after i add something and get that layout file in |
| 01:44.22 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 01:55.49 | Currydevil | I did try XML view, I couldn't find the actor events there. |
| 01:58.01 | JademusSreg | Don't worry, they are there. But if the events are inherited from the parent (appear grey in the list), you'd have to check the parent from which they are inherited. |
| 01:58.09 | Currydevil | http://pastebin.com/q8g4Pk3k |
| 01:58.17 | Currydevil | ah well, all I'm doing is adding a new event |
| 01:58.23 | Currydevil | and the events list is not there for me. |
| 02:04.54 | Currydevil | Oh well, all done now =O |
| 02:05.54 | JademusSreg | <On Terms="Behavior.Precursor.Off" Send="Create AutoTurretReleaseMissileImpact"/> |
| 02:06.01 | JademusSreg | That is an actor event. |
| 02:06.22 | Currydevil | ok |
| 02:06.42 | Currydevil | i see it now lol |
| 02:06.47 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 02:07.13 | Currydevil | wouldn't help me if i tried to copy it from one i didn't put it on yet |
| 02:07.28 | Currydevil | lol |
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| 02:23.20 | Bounty | What is the lowest time you can set a behavior to perform an effect periodically? |
| 02:23.26 | Currydevil | http://i.imgur.com/XBHdN.png |
| 02:26.52 | AlphA_VsT | good job? |
| 02:27.34 | JademusSreg | 0.0625, iirc. Any lower and it will probably unevenly divide applying the effect between engine ticks. |
| 02:27.54 | Currydevil | it looks nice is all. |
| 02:28.16 | JademusSreg | So 1,2,1,2,1,2... for instance. |
| 02:29.09 | AlphA_VsT | ewww :P |
| 02:29.23 | Bounty | well |
| 02:29.26 | Bounty | i cant believe it JademusSreg |
| 02:29.31 | Bounty | my projectile collision system |
| 02:29.34 | Bounty | is now fully data |
| 02:29.35 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:29.39 | JademusSreg | Congrats. |
| 02:30.34 | AlphA_VsT | YAY! |
| 02:30.40 | AlphA_VsT | bounty is growing up |
| 02:31.25 | Bounty | I only did it so i could have less loops >< |
| 02:32.08 | JademusSreg | Fun facts. http://i.imgur.com/P5Yfz.png |
| 02:33.48 | AlphA_VsT | nothing wrong with loops :P |
| 02:34.03 | Bounty | its diff with projectiles lol |
| 02:34.07 | Bounty | there are... lots of them |
| 02:34.21 | AlphA_VsT | oh well then yeah |
| 02:34.22 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 02:34.33 | AlphA_VsT | that shit will lag real fast |
| 02:34.38 | AlphA_VsT | wtf is that for jade? |
| 02:35.41 | AlphA_VsT | what is a "metal band" :D |
| 02:56.38 | Bounty | Wanna test in abit JademusSreg? we can kill eachother n shit |
| 02:56.39 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:57.15 | JademusSreg | In a bit, sure. |
| 03:07.41 | Bounty | ok well im ready when you are |
| 03:07.58 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 03:13.45 | Bounty | Available yet JademusSreg? |
| 03:14.10 | JademusSreg | Nearly. |
| 03:25.18 | Bounty | Anyone know how to create a trigger that lets you know the exact delay with keypress? |
| 03:30.10 | AlphA_VsT | no |
| 03:30.18 | AlphA_VsT | well probably but no |
| 03:30.21 | Currydevil | not really.. |
| 03:30.32 | Bounty | meh oh well |
| 03:30.34 | Bounty | JADEMUSSREG |
| 03:30.42 | Bounty | are yew available |
| 03:32.12 | AlphA_VsT | i don't think any jews are available |
| 03:33.00 | Bounty | i love how easily i figured out how to convert my projectile collision to data |
| 03:33.04 | Bounty | yet ive never been able to |
| 03:33.07 | Bounty | for some reason |
| 03:33.46 | JademusSreg | Almost. Need a smoke. |
| 03:34.01 | Bounty | oh shit |
| 03:34.06 | Bounty | JademusSreg smokes AND drinks? |
| 03:34.08 | Bounty | <3 |
| 03:34.41 | AlphA_VsT | lol bounty |
| 03:35.05 | AlphA_VsT | simple search area should be fine :p |
| 03:35.13 | JademusSreg | I -also- have bowel movements; we have so much in common! |
| 03:35.13 | Bounty | nah |
| 03:35.19 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 03:35.20 | Bounty | i do the damag directly from the projectile |
| 03:35.30 | Bounty | behavior applies the damage effect periodically |
| 03:35.36 | Bounty | if someone takes that damage |
| 03:35.42 | Bounty | projectile dies |
| 03:36.19 | AlphA_VsT | lol even better :P |
| 03:36.48 | Bounty | 95% of stuff is in data |
| 03:36.52 | Bounty | sounds, animations |
| 03:36.59 | Bounty | model effects |
| 03:37.00 | Bounty | etc |
| 03:44.35 | JademusSreg | Ready to test. |
| 03:44.41 | Bounty | log on >< |
| 04:02.51 | JademusSreg | So what approach do you use for projectile collision? Data based, yes. |
| 04:03.05 | JademusSreg | But how did you not get the approach I showed you to work? |
| 04:03.54 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
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| 04:08.21 | Bounty | I told you |
| 04:08.24 | Bounty | in game JademusSreg :) |
| 04:08.37 | Bounty | when the projectile is created it adds a behavior that fires a periodic aoe damage effect |
| 04:08.47 | Bounty | when someone takes damage from that effect the projectile dies |
| 04:08.49 | JademusSreg | I can't be bothered to read everything typed in game; I was pewpewing. |
| 04:08.56 | Bounty | lol fair enough |
| 04:10.17 | JademusSreg | That is not an optimal approach, but okay. When you're ready for The Optimal Solution, meet me at the Gilded Gates Of Precious Metal Purchased At Discount Rate. |
| 04:10.37 | Bounty | Well whatever you suggest would not improve performance in anyway i doubt |
| 04:12.01 | JademusSreg | You're welcome to think that. Induction, afterall, is fallible. |
| 04:20.18 | JademusSreg | How is it so few people are aware of panels? I see a tutorial, and it has people positioning images over buttons manually. =\ |
| 04:24.37 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 04:24.42 | AlphA_VsT | people are silly :D |
| 04:25.04 | Currydevil | It would seem so. |
| 04:25.04 | AlphA_VsT | creating a "panel" isnt a option in gui either :P |
| 04:25.29 | JademusSreg | Wat? |
| 04:25.39 | AlphA_VsT | last I checked :P |
| 04:26.12 | JademusSreg | Dialog -> Dialog Item Type -> Type parameter -> Panel |
| 04:26.25 | JademusSreg | Only took me 20 seconds. =D |
| 04:26.35 | AlphA_VsT | oh i have not checked in a long time :D |
| 04:26.54 | AlphA_VsT | I was mostly talking out out of my ass... |
| 04:27.22 | AlphA_VsT | I should of said its not a visible option that most would look around to find |
| 04:27.32 | JademusSreg | Well, it -is- the internet, so that is par for the course. |
| 04:27.45 | AlphA_VsT | like people not knowing about modify variable |
| 04:27.52 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 04:27.56 | AlphA_VsT | becasue set is the default |
| 04:28.33 | JademusSreg | You know why it took me 20 seconds? 15 seconds of clicking, 5 seconds of typing. |
| 04:28.53 | AlphA_VsT | you type fast :D |
| 04:29.29 | JademusSreg | Probably why I prefer to script. =D |
| 04:30.21 | Currydevil | meh, Editor crash when I try to find a map on bnet. |
| 04:31.14 | Currydevil | Really? Gem TD is gone =( |
| 04:31.18 | Currydevil | bummer. |
| 04:32.20 | AlphA_VsT | why would it be gone? |
| 04:32.39 | Currydevil | I don't know. it didn't show up on my played games, or when I searched for map/mod |
| 04:32.52 | AlphA_VsT | maybe cause its locked? |
| 04:33.21 | Currydevil | That could be =( I just want to have diff armor icons/types for my units. |
| 04:33.39 | AlphA_VsT | its in data... |
| 04:33.46 | Currydevil | No kidding. |
| 04:33.58 | Currydevil | Do I edit the preset values? or is there something else? |
| 04:34.06 | AlphA_VsT | the upgrades? |
| 04:34.47 | Currydevil | I want to replace the default armor icon for units to mine, and thus have the damage types do + or - dmg accordingly. |
| 04:36.01 | AlphA_VsT | im pretty sure its in the upgrades data |
| 04:36.13 | AlphA_VsT | and im pretty sure its on each unit also |
| 04:38.06 | Currydevil | and lame. Lol. I named all my units, but when I put the mod on a map, some of the unit names were changed (not the id's though) |
| 04:38.21 | Currydevil | oh well. |
| 04:38.31 | AlphA_VsT | strange it shouldn't |
| 04:38.51 | Currydevil | they reverted back to the name of the unit i made the duplicate from |
| 04:38.58 | Currydevil | except for the id |
| 04:40.59 | AlphA_VsT | copy not duplicate :P |
| 04:41.12 | Currydevil | it's all done now, doesn't matter. |
| 04:42.01 | AlphA_VsT | or create a new unit even better |
| 05:05.57 | Currydevil | Hmm, no triggers in a mod? |
| 05:06.54 | Bounty | JAdemusSreg |
| 05:06.58 | Bounty | you're going to shit ur pants |
| 05:07.03 | Bounty | destructible pillars son |
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| 05:21.42 | hobbidude | Anyone know what the hell the effect is called for when the merc air units enter with like fire underneath? |
| 05:23.56 | Currydevil | it's an actor |
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| 05:58.54 | Bounty | JademusSreg... |
| 05:58.56 | Bounty | you |
| 05:58.57 | Bounty | must |
| 05:58.58 | Bounty | see this |
| 05:59.00 | Bounty | lol |
| 05:59.01 | Bounty | epic as fuck |
| 05:59.19 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 05:59.27 | Bounty | wanna blow up some environment? :) |
| 06:00.35 | JademusSreg | Busy with business. |
| 06:00.54 | JademusSreg | Damn, not enough derivatives of "busy" to make that joke work. |
| 06:01.09 | Bounty | :( |
| 06:06.55 | Bounty | Alpha_vst :) |
| 06:07.14 | Currydevil | Bah, armor upgrades/icons not working =( |
| 06:08.32 | Bounty | Currydevil |
| 06:08.41 | Bounty | quick test? 20 bucks if ur disapointed :) |
| 06:08.55 | Currydevil | lol. sure. my stuff isn't working right now. |
| 06:09.13 | Bounty | sweet |
| 06:09.18 | Bounty | be prepared to blow up the environment! |
| 06:09.29 | Bounty | try not to blow it up to fast |
| 06:09.29 | Currydevil | cool |
| 06:09.30 | Bounty | lol |
| 06:09.31 | Currydevil | lol |
| 06:09.46 | Bounty | ok, im logged on |
| 06:09.47 | Bounty | PM me |
| 06:09.54 | Currydevil | ok |
| 06:14.09 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 06:19.31 | Bounty | >< |
| 06:19.44 | Bounty | blowing up environment is fun |
| 06:19.52 | Currydevil | hell yeah |
| 06:19.57 | Currydevil | I loved Red Faction for that. |
| 06:20.25 | Currydevil | they did it a serius injustice by taking out the destructable walls/terrain in the two pc games. |
| 06:20.32 | Bounty | best part is most ppl wont know about destructible cover until the shit just collapses when they're hiding behind it lol |
| 06:20.37 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 06:20.40 | Currydevil | Lol, yes. |
| 06:20.47 | Currydevil | serious* |
| 06:21.33 | Currydevil | My favorite part was tunneling from the top of one fortress, through the canyon wall to the top of the other fortress with a sniper hole in the middle of the canyon wall. |
| 06:21.42 | Bounty | lol |
| 06:21.43 | Currydevil | I forget the map name though, Warlords I think it was. |
| 06:21.54 | Bounty | that would be awesome if i could figure out how to do that |
| 06:21.56 | Bounty | build tunnels |
| 06:22.06 | Currydevil | Or you're running through a hallway, and the floor blows up from under you. |
| 06:24.25 | Bounty | lol |
| 06:24.30 | Bounty | i doubt i could do that in sc2 >< |
| 06:24.52 | Currydevil | Of course not. It was another fun part of Red Faction |
| 06:25.05 | Bounty | is there a way to increase the radius at which a unit can become affected by aoe? |
| 06:25.11 | Bounty | that seems to be the only issue with the pillars |
| 06:25.40 | Currydevil | Not sure, i'd imagine it had to do with radius or colission or something, but i don't know =D |
| 06:26.18 | Bounty | any idea JademusSreg? |
| 06:26.45 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 06:27.04 | Bounty | is there a way to increase the radius at which a unit can become affected by aoe |
| 06:27.57 | JademusSreg | That's determined by the unit's radius. A unit with a large radius the same distance from the center of an aoe effect as a unit with a smaller radius is more likely to be hit. |
| 06:28.14 | Bounty | so its just called radius? |
| 06:28.15 | Bounty | under unit? |
| 06:28.20 | JademusSreg | Should be. |
| 06:28.44 | Bounty | well i just tried it |
| 06:28.48 | Bounty | didnt owrk and i set the radius to max |
| 06:28.48 | Bounty | lol |
| 06:28.58 | JademusSreg | shrugs. |
| 06:29.12 | JademusSreg | Perhaps its filtered out. Or the footprint is interfering. |
| 06:29.16 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 06:36.09 | Currydevil | So, i've been trying, but not the right way obv. How do I change the armor icon on the unit ui? |
| 06:36.33 | Bounty | sounds like a job for JademusSreg |
| 06:36.58 | Currydevil | Woo. I've got the upgrade and everything. I just need to swap the icon. =O |
| 06:38.49 | JademusSreg | Actor : UI : Life Armor Icon |
| 06:39.08 | Currydevil | ah |
| 06:39.30 | Currydevil | Everything seems so silly after jade tells you what to do. Like, how the hell did I miss it. |
| 06:41.34 | Bounty | lol |
| 06:41.56 | Bounty | Am i going to be able to show you this at all tonight JademusSreg? |
| 06:43.11 | JademusSreg | Depends on when you go to sleep. |
| 06:50.46 | Bounty | Mega Lame |
| 06:57.30 | AlphA_VsT | Currydevil, i told you that like hours ago |
| 06:58.01 | Bounty | Sure you did |
| 06:58.21 | Currydevil | You said it was on the unit, but i never looked at the actor. |
| 06:58.25 | Currydevil | =P |
| 06:58.45 | Currydevil | Besides, if I can change the name of the armor on the unit why would I look at the actor for the icon? =X |
| 06:59.17 | Currydevil | Anyways, "You can do it! You can do it all night long!" |
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| 07:02.02 | SoulTaker916_ | wassup! |
| 07:02.39 | Bounty | my map has destructible environment |
| 07:02.41 | Bounty | thats whats up |
| 07:02.45 | Currydevil | ^ |
| 07:02.50 | SoulTaker916_ | i made a city map |
| 07:02.56 | SoulTaker916_ | completly destructable buildings |
| 07:02.57 | SoulTaker916_ | cars |
| 07:02.59 | SoulTaker916_ | trees |
| 07:03.01 | SoulTaker916_ | shark |
| 07:03.03 | SoulTaker916_ | fish |
| 07:03.08 | Bounty | liar |
| 07:03.09 | SoulTaker916_ | and the ground was morphable by gun fire |
| 07:03.12 | SoulTaker916_ | :P |
| 07:03.16 | Bounty | plus |
| 07:03.16 | SoulTaker916_ | i did i did |
| 07:03.21 | Bounty | my environment shakes and collapses |
| 07:03.23 | SoulTaker916_ | i never knew what todo with it |
| 07:03.23 | Bounty | DOES YOURS!? |
| 07:03.27 | SoulTaker916_ | nope |
| 07:03.41 | Bounty | well har har to u |
| 07:03.49 | SoulTaker916_ | lol touche |
| 07:04.02 | SoulTaker916_ | im trying to find the pylon power matrix model |
| 07:04.09 | SoulTaker916_ | to expand it to match the radius |
| 07:04.23 | SoulTaker916_ | were does.. |
| 07:04.25 | SoulTaker916_ | oh i c it now |
| 07:04.53 | SoulTaker916_ | nope |
| 07:04.54 | SoulTaker916_ | anyways |
| 07:05.02 | SoulTaker916_ | were does the model hook into the pylon? |
| 07:05.09 | flyingspatula_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:05.11 | Currydevil | what do you mean? |
| 07:05.22 | Currydevil | Not quite spat |
| 07:05.30 | SoulTaker916_ | ya |
| 07:05.37 | SoulTaker916_ | the model for the power matrix |
| 07:05.38 | SoulTaker916_ | is off |
| 07:05.41 | JademusSreg | Still awake. |
| 07:05.44 | SoulTaker916_ | i increased the radius |
| 07:05.47 | flyingspatula_ | ;p |
| 07:05.50 | SoulTaker916_ | but the power circle doesnt match |
| 07:06.05 | SoulTaker916_ | i need to find were the model hooks in so i can copy and edit |
| 07:06.08 | flyingspatula_ | jw if u ever got a chance to check map |
| 07:06.13 | Currydevil | did you increase the size of the model or the size of the radius of the power? |
| 07:06.28 | JademusSreg | I guess I could in just a minute. |
| 07:06.48 | SoulTaker916_ | radius of power |
| 07:06.48 | flyingspatula_ | lol u dont HAVE to i guess XD haha |
| 07:06.51 | SoulTaker916_ | im working on model |
| 07:06.57 | SoulTaker916_ | but i dotn want to change original pylons |
| 07:07.11 | Currydevil | you don't. just change the model of the power grid. |
| 07:07.14 | Currydevil | oh |
| 07:07.16 | Currydevil | I see |
| 07:07.20 | SoulTaker916_ | ya |
| 07:07.21 | SoulTaker916_ | well |
| 07:07.22 | Currydevil | gotcha. |
| 07:07.27 | SoulTaker916_ | i need to hook a new model up |
| 07:07.31 | flyingspatula_ | hey bounty did you ever have issues with jumping over cliffs the camera would jump? |
| 07:07.32 | SoulTaker916_ | but i cant find the hookup spot |
| 07:07.40 | Bounty | no |
| 07:07.42 | flyingspatula_ | hm |
| 07:07.46 | flyingspatula_ | then wtf |
| 07:07.50 | Currydevil | it's an actor event on the power grid actor |
| 07:07.52 | Bounty | lolol |
| 07:07.54 | flyingspatula_ | lol |
| 07:08.18 | Currydevil | the pylon has the "power source(w/e)" behavior |
| 07:08.28 | Currydevil | and the power grid model works on that |
| 07:08.31 | Currydevil | in the actor |
| 07:08.48 | SoulTaker916_ | i dotn see that attacked to the pylon |
| 07:08.50 | SoulTaker916_ | :/ |
| 07:08.59 | Currydevil | it won't be. |
| 07:09.06 | Currydevil | it's only linked to the buff. |
| 07:09.10 | Currydevil | technically. |
| 07:09.15 | Currydevil | let me find it. |
| 07:09.53 | SoulTaker916_ | ya i dont see any buffs either.. |
| 07:10.53 | Currydevil | you might just have to make a new model and set up the actor yourself. |
| 07:10.58 | Currydevil | but that's how it would go |
| 07:11.05 | SoulTaker916_ | lol............... |
| 07:11.09 | SoulTaker916_ | fucking blizrd.. |
| 07:11.12 | SoulTaker916_ | *grumbles* |
| 07:11.16 | Currydevil | I think it's a splat for the pylon |
| 07:11.25 | Currydevil | but if you want to use it, you have to set up a model for it. |
| 07:11.29 | Currydevil | and the actor. |
| 07:11.40 | SoulTaker916_ | well i have a splat copy |
| 07:11.42 | SoulTaker916_ | actor |
| 07:11.48 | SoulTaker916_ | and a copy of the model |
| 07:11.50 | JademusSreg | Alright. Now I'll take a look. |
| 07:12.09 | Currydevil | I don't really know. I just used it once for a missile impact effect |
| 07:12.12 | SoulTaker916_ | just need to fit a-b |
| 07:12.22 | flyingspatula_ | XD ok |
| 07:12.37 | JademusSreg | Fly, you use undo in GUI too much. Which is to say at all. |
| 07:12.37 | flyingspatula_ | ull prolly think my triggers are horrible btw |
| 07:12.48 | SoulTaker916_ | 07JademusSreg01 |
| 07:12.50 | SoulTaker916_ | i cant find it |
| 07:12.51 | flyingspatula_ | i do? lol |
| 07:13.01 | flyingspatula_ | how can u even tell lol |
| 07:13.16 | Currydevil | what are you trying to find ? |
| 07:13.25 | SoulTaker916_ | the link up |
| 07:13.30 | JademusSreg | [3/29/2012 3:12:22 AM] Warning: Orphaned trigger function call removed: Function Call 'Triggering Unit' (Function Call, F3387CDE, Lib: 0) |
| 07:13.31 | SoulTaker916_ | so i can attack the new model |
| 07:13.37 | JademusSreg | A whole message window full of errors like that. |
| 07:13.39 | flyingspatula_ | OH i wondered |
| 07:13.41 | flyingspatula_ | what those were about |
| 07:13.46 | flyingspatula_ | lmao |
| 07:13.49 | SoulTaker916_ | lolz................................ |
| 07:13.50 | flyingspatula_ | how do i fix those |
| 07:13.54 | SoulTaker916_ | dont ignore that shit.. |
| 07:13.55 | flyingspatula_ | yes im a noob sometimes |
| 07:13.56 | JademusSreg | Stop using undo. |
| 07:13.59 | flyingspatula_ | lol |
| 07:14.03 | flyingspatula_ | ok i wont use undo no mo |
| 07:14.15 | JademusSreg | Taker, wat? |
| 07:14.24 | SoulTaker916_ | well u can undo, u jest need to make sure u skim the triggers |
| 07:14.29 | SoulTaker916_ | u can tell if it messed up |
| 07:14.36 | JademusSreg | Please explain the issue, preferably in complete sentences. |
| 07:14.36 | SoulTaker916_ | everything will be all goblygooped |
| 07:14.56 | flyingspatula_ | lol |
| 07:14.58 | SoulTaker916_ | we talking about triggers right? |
| 07:15.11 | JademusSreg | Talking about your issue, Taker. |
| 07:15.17 | SoulTaker916_ | OH |
| 07:15.24 | JademusSreg | While I look at fly's map, that is. |
| 07:15.40 | flyingspatula_ | lol |
| 07:15.50 | SoulTaker916_ | ya im trying to increase the radius on a pylon i have the duplicate modles and actor but im trying to figure out were power visual links into the pylon unit |
| 07:15.54 | SoulTaker916_ | frustrating |
| 07:16.01 | SoulTaker916_ | its like they r linked up magicaly |
| 07:16.08 | SoulTaker916_ | i cant find the model in any actors |
| 07:19.01 | JademusSreg | The radius image is created and scaled by the power provider behavior, via a range or action actor, I would guess. |
| 07:19.19 | SoulTaker916_ | ya |
| 07:19.21 | SoulTaker916_ | i looked |
| 07:19.24 | SoulTaker916_ | nothing |
| 07:19.26 | flyingspatula_ | lol so jade how bad do u find my jump trigger wise XD i should prolly redo it |
| 07:19.28 | JademusSreg | Fly, what is the bug I'm looking for here? |
| 07:19.38 | flyingspatula_ | oh |
| 07:19.46 | flyingspatula_ | when you go on top of a cliff |
| 07:19.48 | JademusSreg | Suddenly, I'm a tree. |
| 07:19.50 | flyingspatula_ | and jump off with spacebar |
| 07:19.52 | flyingspatula_ | haha |
| 07:19.56 | flyingspatula_ | uh |
| 07:20.01 | flyingspatula_ | when u jump off a high ledge |
| 07:20.02 | flyingspatula_ | or gap |
| 07:20.04 | flyingspatula_ | the camera jumps |
| 07:20.09 | flyingspatula_ | for a split seconds |
| 07:20.30 | flyingspatula_ | somethign about the very edge of a cliff and even the terrain side does it |
| 07:20.35 | JademusSreg | Ah. I was jumping off the mesh "cliffs". |
| 07:20.48 | JademusSreg | Yeah, I see it now. |
| 07:20.49 | flyingspatula_ | it doe sit for both sides it makes no sense |
| 07:20.50 | flyingspatula_ | XD |
| 07:21.06 | JademusSreg | Though I'm not sure why I am a tree. That's cool. |
| 07:21.09 | flyingspatula_ | yeah i half finished my rounds etc so u migth randomly switch |
| 07:21.12 | JademusSreg | I'm into arboreal shit. |
| 07:21.14 | flyingspatula_ | haha cuz im making a prophunt |
| 07:21.22 | SoulTaker916_ | :( |
| 07:21.52 | flyingspatula_ | shhh bounty might hear and decide to make his again! |
| 07:22.11 | SoulTaker916_ | jade... |
| 07:22.32 | flyingspatula_ | like i think my jump is good, needs a bit of redoing but the camcliff thing just ruins it |
| 07:23.09 | JademusSreg | Well, now that I've seen it in effect, I can look at the code. |
| 07:23.14 | flyingspatula_ | lol oh god |
| 07:23.15 | JademusSreg | Taker, patience. |
| 07:23.22 | SoulTaker916_ | NEVERS!!! |
| 07:23.28 | SoulTaker916_ | *throws a hissy fit* |
| 07:23.38 | flyingspatula_ | my code is prolly bad but i can explain any of the jump code u need to know |
| 07:24.04 | JademusSreg | I may have an idea of what causes it. I'll try some tinkering. |
| 07:24.26 | flyingspatula_ | XD ok sweet. just whenever u feel like messing with it |
| 07:24.32 | AlphA_VsT | lol what |
| 07:24.50 | JademusSreg | Hey, Taker. |
| 07:25.02 | JademusSreg | Actor : Power. It's actor type? Power. |
| 07:25.26 | AlphA_VsT | power is for power :D |
| 07:25.29 | SoulTaker916_ | yes |
| 07:25.31 | SoulTaker916_ | it is |
| 07:25.43 | SoulTaker916_ | so power actors magicaly hook up into |
| 07:25.45 | SoulTaker916_ | the model? |
| 07:26.03 | JademusSreg | It reference PowerVisual. |
| 07:26.18 | JademusSreg | PowerVisual actor has Art: Model PowerVisual. |
| 07:26.19 | SoulTaker916_ | and were is this actor refernced to pylon? |
| 07:26.22 | JademusSreg | It's a Splat type. |
| 07:26.37 | AlphA_VsT | yup |
| 07:26.45 | JademusSreg | The pylon is irrelevant; it has the PowerSource behavior.. |
| 07:26.54 | AlphA_VsT | yup |
| 07:27.07 | JademusSreg | You could give that behavior to an ultralisk and it would make a power visual. |
| 07:27.13 | Bounty | You should come test real quick Jade :) |
| 07:27.29 | SoulTaker916_ | ok i see what ur talking about |
| 07:27.31 | JademusSreg | Wait until I close the editor. Gotta tinker with fly's map. |
| 07:27.32 | SoulTaker916_ | *goes tinkering |
| 07:27.33 | SoulTaker916_ | * |
| 07:27.48 | Bounty | how long will that be, i plan on going to bed shortly |
| 07:27.54 | flyingspatula_ | lol |
| 07:28.41 | JademusSreg | n% amount of time. |
| 07:28.49 | JademusSreg | Where n% is a token. |
| 07:31.31 | Bounty | la de da |
| 07:33.40 | JademusSreg | Well, funny thing is height smoothing prevents it. |
| 07:33.51 | JademusSreg | Of course, it fucks up everything else. |
| 07:34.02 | Bounty | its easy to fix |
| 07:34.17 | Bounty | u just need a loop that sets the camera height according to the units height |
| 07:34.27 | Bounty | derp |
| 07:34.28 | Bounty | thats how i did it |
| 07:34.40 | JademusSreg | I wonder if a melee perspective would encounter the same issue with height smoothing disabled. |
| 07:35.04 | flyingspatula_ | well i adjusted it depndant on the units height |
| 07:35.58 | flyingspatula_ | i wondered tha ttoo jade |
| 07:36.31 | JademusSreg | But that won't ultimately fix it. Player camera values are synced, but are updated for the client in real time, more or less. |
| 07:36.32 | Bounty | Ok well im going to smoke if you're not available by the time i come back JademusSreg, then fuck it for tonight lol |
| 07:36.35 | Bounty | >< |
| 07:36.45 | Bounty | its how i fixed it |
| 07:36.46 | Bounty | brb |
| 07:37.08 | JademusSreg | If I slow down the game time, for instance, the camera drops -far- lower. |
| 07:37.19 | flyingspatula_ | hm |
| 07:38.20 | flyingspatula_ | i just dont get why its the very edge that causes it, even if its a terrain plateu sorta thing |
| 07:38.38 | flyingspatula_ | there sjust no reason for it to do that |
| 07:38.40 | flyingspatula_ | >.< |
| 07:39.24 | JademusSreg | Unless cameras allow you to define transitions with curves, which would allow you to define the camera to move across the jump's arc without constantly updating it, you can't solve the cliff problem by updating around it, so to speak. |
| 07:40.11 | JademusSreg | Because the drop will occur regardless. |
| 07:40.52 | JademusSreg | But if you update the camera in such a way that you blend it to the pinacle, and then to the landing, you could overcome it, assuming height allows you to blend. |
| 07:41.50 | flyingspatula_ | well i tried perhaps making the camera NOT update exactly when the posiition where it causes the camera spike to happen |
| 07:41.57 | flyingspatula_ | but i could never accurately detect it |
| 07:42.14 | JademusSreg | CameraSetValue (int player, int type, fixed value, fixed duration, fixed velocity, fixed decelerate); |
| 07:42.22 | Bounty | Back |
| 07:42.42 | flyingspatula_ | oh i see what you mean |
| 07:42.45 | JademusSreg | It has a blend duration, which means yes, you could set height to the precalculated pinnacle. |
| 07:42.53 | Bounty | So, are you available yet Jade or will we have to do this quick test another time? |
| 07:42.57 | JademusSreg | Anyway, let's test. |
| 07:43.03 | Bounty | thata boy |
| 07:43.06 | Bounty | its already uploaded |
| 07:43.07 | Bounty | :) |
| 07:43.08 | flyingspatula_ | lol |
| 07:44.18 | SoulTaker916_ | so jade |
| 07:44.22 | SoulTaker916_ | i got another question |
| 07:51.30 | JademusSreg | Alright. That was cool. |
| 07:51.40 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:51.42 | SoulTaker916_ | jade... |
| 07:51.44 | Bounty | i bet you didnt say to yourself |
| 07:51.46 | Bounty | ok |
| 07:51.49 | Bounty | this pillar is falling on me |
| 07:51.50 | JademusSreg | You have 30 secondsm Taker! Gooo |
| 07:51.53 | Bounty | but there is noway it will kill me |
| 07:51.56 | Bounty | >< |
| 07:51.59 | Bounty | WRONG |
| 07:52.03 | SoulTaker916_ | i want to know why when i duplicate a supply depo |
| 07:52.09 | SoulTaker916_ | i get catstrophic fails |
| 07:52.13 | SoulTaker916_ | for all objects |
| 07:52.19 | JademusSreg | Duplicate sucks. Stop it. |
| 07:52.26 | Bounty | i duplicate all the time |
| 07:52.30 | JademusSreg | Perfectly timed! |
| 07:52.32 | SoulTaker916_ | easyer than doing it one by one |
| 07:52.33 | Bounty | u just have to only duplicate what you need to |
| 07:52.36 | JademusSreg | Sleep time/ |
| 07:52.51 | Bounty | and i agree with jade |
| 07:52.54 | Bounty | fucking 4 AM |
| 07:52.59 | Bounty | later dudez |
| 07:56.37 | flyingspatula_ | hm |
| 07:56.58 | flyingspatula_ | so yeah jade i dunno exactly what u meant for the camera, but messing with velocity and decel didnt do much |
| 07:57.15 | SoulTaker916_ | hes asleep |
| 07:57.17 | flyingspatula_ | k |
| 08:00.47 | Currydevil | http://i.imgur.com/lj1h9.png |
| 08:00.53 | Currydevil | getting there. ah |
| 08:01.21 | SoulTaker916_ | lolz |
| 08:01.23 | SoulTaker916_ | XD |
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| 09:13.23 | AlphA_VsT | no fucking way |
| 09:20.16 | AlphA_VsT | anchorman 2 |
| 09:20.17 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
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| 10:26.12 | Mexa_ | Yawn, stetch, hi, and all that. |
| 10:26.16 | Mexa_ | *stretch |
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| 13:37.57 | Ashamed | good m0r/\/ing |
| 13:38.03 | Ashamed | thats right all 1337 and shit |
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| 13:55.53 | flyingspatula | hey would it be more random to run a 1-100 or just a 1-2 if i want a yes or no kind of result. |
| 13:56.08 | flyingspatula | like 1-100 1-50 being yes, 51-100 no |
| 13:56.31 | flyingspatula | seems like with 1-2 i get one like 10 times -_- |
| 14:00.01 | Ashamed | in all reality probability is the same |
| 14:02.28 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 14:02.44 | flyingspatula | i guess random is a result you dont expect so makes sense |
| 14:02.58 | flyingspatula | just still kinad sux |
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| 14:52.00 | flyingspatula | is there a way to change ally chat? so if i make 2 players enemies that were originally on same team they can no longer chat via allies? |
| 15:02.42 | Scorp_ | you could make a custom chat |
| 15:05.25 | flyingspatula | hm didnt know u coudl do that |
| 15:05.50 | Scorp_ | make a dialog and put the chat messages into it |
| 15:06.04 | Scorp_ | and ofcause hide the original chat |
| 15:07.46 | JademusSreg | Pew pew. |
| 15:08.42 | Ashamed | PEW PEW PEW |
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| 15:34.57 | flyingspatula | hm may have to try that i guess |
| 15:36.16 | flyingspatula | jade i never understood what u told me last nite lol but oh well |
| 15:36.39 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 15:37.25 | flyingspatula | when u commented about the velocity and decel for camera |
| 15:37.49 | JademusSreg | Ah, alright. I'll explain. |
| 15:37.52 | flyingspatula | XD |
| 15:38.06 | flyingspatula | well i just randomly started editing it and was no change so im jus kinda like -_- |
| 15:41.24 | JademusSreg | Since the camera update is done in (I'm guessing) 1/16 gt, that means either it is working properly, and when the unit is over the cliff part, it returns a number, you can just add an exception to camera height adjuster so it will simply ignore that unusual value, or it is working properly but unable to account for the drop because the update period isn't capable of updating the camera |
| 15:41.25 | JademusSreg | height as quickly as it can change on the client side. |
| 15:42.18 | flyingspatula | hm so it could be either scenario |
| 15:42.31 | JademusSreg | The last clause concerning the disparity between update rate and client side is important to understand. |
| 15:42.42 | flyingspatula | well it still does it in singleplayer tho |
| 15:43.08 | JademusSreg | Yes, but the update rate is the same in single player and multiplayer. |
| 15:43.12 | flyingspatula | oic |
| 15:43.16 | JademusSreg | The difference between the two is latency. |
| 15:43.23 | flyingspatula | right |
| 15:43.50 | flyingspatula | so what kind of solution would you have in mind? |
| 15:44.07 | flyingspatula | i also consdiered |
| 15:44.16 | JademusSreg | Anyway, to understand the difference between synced update rate and client update rate, consider the following. |
| 15:44.37 | flyingspatula | how my loop is being ran .03 while the camera/everyting else must be ran .0625 and up |
| 15:47.17 | JademusSreg | If you're tracking camera yaw, and you have camera relative enabled, you can wiggle your mouse back and forth as fast as you want and the game will respond on the client side perfectly; the mouse will cause the camera to turn precisely as you move the mouse. But the function call that's polling the camera yaw, let's say it's at 1/32 gt, will print the same camera yaw value twice. So each |
| 15:47.17 | JademusSreg | real second you've got at least 32 print messages, and they will be the same in pairs. This demonstrates the sync update rate for the camera yaw is 1/16 gt. |
| 15:48.23 | JademusSreg | A loop can't run at 0.03. It will either be 0.03125 or it will be 0.0625, and I expect the former isn't an improvement, since update rates are capped at 1/16 gt. |
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| 15:48.54 | flyingspatula | hmm |
| 15:49.44 | flyingspatula | let me make sure i udnerstand this correctly |
| 15:52.22 | flyingspatula | so is there any reason to have anything running 1/32? |
| 15:52.29 | flyingspatula | sry im tyring to understand the reasoning behind um' |
| 15:53.04 | JademusSreg | I'm not aware of any good reason to update at 1/32gt. And I used to use it quite a lot. |
| 15:53.05 | flyingspatula | why u can go 1/32 but has no purpose since on bnet it cant do it? |
| 15:53.12 | flyingspatula | hm |
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| 15:53.32 | flyingspatula | so does that mean i should perhaps not even run my loop that fast? |
| 15:54.42 | Ashamed | guys i bought 10 dollars worth of mega millions |
| 15:55.03 | Ashamed | if i get it i will make all my sc2 mapster freinds rich! |
| 15:55.03 | JademusSreg | I can think of no good reason to update at that rate. That's not saying there isn't one, only that I'm not aware one. |
| 15:55.15 | flyingspatula | well my only issue with that was |
| 15:55.17 | JademusSreg | Ash, the lottery is for suckers. |
| 15:55.23 | Ashamed | -.- i never buy them |
| 15:55.28 | Ashamed | but tis the highest ever |
| 15:55.33 | Ashamed | so i suppose lets give it a shot |
| 15:55.41 | JademusSreg | Doesn't change that it is for suckers. |
| 15:55.45 | flyingspatula | i didnt want the loop happening less to make things less responsive |
| 15:56.09 | JademusSreg | Fly, wat? |
| 15:56.12 | Ashamed | and anywho i went gambling for the first time like 6 months ago and came home with about 2k |
| 15:56.16 | Ashamed | so mby i got the luck ;) |
| 15:56.32 | JademusSreg | Since everything updates at 1/16, it couldn't be less responsive. |
| 15:56.40 | flyingspatula | ok let me actually try this |
| 15:56.48 | flyingspatula | and see whatresult it gives me :P |
| 15:57.01 | JademusSreg | Unit positions update in 1/16, orders are issued in 1/16, pretty much everything revolves around 1/16 game time. =D |
| 15:57.33 | JademusSreg | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1922567854 |
| 15:57.44 | JademusSreg | Topic title: "ALLOW SC2 PROGRAMMARS TO USE ALL CPU CORES" |
| 15:58.13 | JademusSreg | Why would I let someone who can't spell "programmers" to access multiple cores? |
| 15:58.34 | flyingspatula | XD |
| 15:59.51 | flyingspatula | aw damn |
| 16:00.04 | flyingspatula | now it dips downward sigh lol |
| 16:00.06 | flyingspatula | but i can see |
| 16:00.11 | flyingspatula | visually a few thigns are better |
| 16:00.18 | flyingspatula | few other things |
| 16:01.19 | JademusSreg | As for the dip, like I said before, it's one of two possibilities. |
| 16:01.39 | flyingspatula | ive honestly never figured out how the velocity and decel works for cameras since changing them enevr seems to have any difference |
| 16:01.50 | flyingspatula | hm yeah well |
| 16:01.58 | flyingspatula | so theres probably no way around this? |
| 16:02.06 | flyingspatula | i actually think running at 1/16 helped it a bit |
| 16:02.18 | JademusSreg | Either your system works correctly, but it should ignore "exceptional" height changes, or - |
| 16:03.05 | flyingspatula | ohh i see the prioblem right now |
| 16:03.11 | JademusSreg | It's a natural consequence of the how cameras interact with "unsmoothed" terrain, and it happens between camera height updates. |
| 16:03.16 | flyingspatula | hm true |
| 16:04.32 | flyingspatula | well right now i changed the camera to set height over like half a second, and noticed it dips down really far, so even at fast speeds i still see the dip so its just not able to update it fast enough |
| 16:04.55 | flyingspatula | i may just have to leave this issue for later |
| 16:06.35 | flyingspatula | its only from extreme drops |
| 16:06.40 | flyingspatula | smaller drops are no issue |
| 16:07.11 | flyingspatula | lol ive been trying to re add your threashold facing thing, i noticed on bnet the facing was so bad it hurt my eyes |
| 16:07.25 | flyingspatula | and i was trying to turn over like .0625sec |
| 16:07.26 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 16:07.34 | flyingspatula | while moving thats fine |
| 16:07.36 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 16:07.39 | flyingspatula | but standing it hurt |
| 16:07.48 | flyingspatula | im trying to find a visually pleasing rate for everything |
| 16:07.56 | flyingspatula | since its not a fps or tps |
| 16:07.59 | JademusSreg | I used 0.3. |
| 16:08.00 | flyingspatula | doesnt ahve to be spot on |
| 16:08.06 | flyingspatula | right |
| 16:08.08 | flyingspatula | but |
| 16:08.15 | flyingspatula | even for while moving? |
| 16:08.19 | JademusSreg | Naw. |
| 16:08.20 | flyingspatula | oh wait u dont have to deal with that |
| 16:08.23 | flyingspatula | with use order |
| 16:08.30 | flyingspatula | ok wow i need to learn to speak in sentences |
| 16:08.34 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 16:08.36 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 16:08.51 | flyingspatula | would u have a suggested turn rate while moving? i use instant move rather than order |
| 16:09.09 | flyingspatula | im simply trying to avoid any flicker |
| 16:09.55 | flyingspatula | i noticed the camera smoothing u can set all the way to like .05 now |
| 16:10.19 | JademusSreg | A turn rate while moving? I guess since the moving starts immediately, it should be no greater than 0.125. |
| 16:10.40 | flyingspatula | oh turn rate while being ordered is accelerated? |
| 16:11.02 | flyingspatula | well like starts out slower then has a maxium |
| 16:11.21 | flyingspatula | i suppose what i meant is im just trying to make the turn look natural much like *issue order move* did |
| 16:11.24 | JademusSreg | If it were accelerating, might make more sense to have a longer turn rate. I'd use 0.125. |
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| 16:11.39 | flyingspatula | alrighty, but around 3 for standing still |
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| 16:11.55 | flyingspatula | .3* |
| 16:13.06 | flyingspatula | the last 2 are the camera change and the fly height change when jumping |
| 16:13.47 | JademusSreg | 0.125gt is ~= 12.6 real time frames |
| 16:14.44 | JademusSreg | Human vision updates at ~72 frames per second, so that's ~17.5% of a second. |
| 16:15.44 | JademusSreg | If 0.125 doesn't look good enough, then 0.25 should. =D |
| 16:15.55 | JademusSreg | Oh, that's assuming Faster game speed, though. |
| 16:15.57 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 16:17.27 | flyingspatula | hah yeah im running fastest speed. ill try .125 first. i have the unit fly height change at .0625 but i might have to make it slower. but no tsure how id make the refresh match my velocity |
| 16:24.50 | flyingspatula | when ur back jade, just have a question regarding more of your opinion on the matter. i have my refresh loop running every .0625 that my movement function uses, but i also have my jump function in that as well that is somewhat a custom movement that is uses while jumping. however i need it to run at .125 rather than .0625. not sure if I should just make the jump create its own thread or use a wait or how exactly i would make |
| 16:32.55 | JademusSreg | Why does it need to run at 0.125? |
| 16:33.54 | flyingspatula | well |
| 16:34.09 | flyingspatula | it doesnt look very smooth at .0625 |
| 16:34.19 | flyingspatula | or atleast i think it could have a bit less flicker |
| 16:35.13 | flyingspatula | making a units height change too fast makes it flicker |
| 16:35.32 | JademusSreg | What's the blend time on it? |
| 16:35.56 | flyingspatula | blend time for the unit itself or the fly change timing |
| 16:36.22 | flyingspatula | i just have the unit change fly height over .0625 atm |
| 16:36.25 | flyingspatula | same as the loop |
| 16:36.39 | flyingspatula | otherwise it kind of messes up bc of the way i designed it lol |
| 16:36.57 | JademusSreg | Blending at 0.025 and updating at 0.0625 shouldn't be a problem, but I'd have to test it. |
| 16:37.06 | JademusSreg | *0.0625 |
| 16:37.15 | flyingspatula | well |
| 16:37.22 | flyingspatula | my map the one u messed with last night |
| 16:37.28 | flyingspatula | the jump ran at .0625 |
| 16:37.35 | flyingspatula | but to me it seemed to flicker a bit on larger objects |
| 16:39.39 | flyingspatula | i suppose i need to edit my jump |
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| 17:22.53 | Ashamed | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH |
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| 17:40.16 | flyingspatula | fml |
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| 17:45.06 | Scorp_ | cool |
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| 17:48.02 | Ashamed | id unno if this is true but seems pretty cool |
| 17:48.02 | Ashamed | http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/2jIbGV/www.redrif.com/2012/02/17/haruka-nishimatsu-world%E2%80%99s-most-austere-ceo-5-pics/ |
| 17:48.57 | Ashamed | i do believe it is real though |
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| 17:52.13 | Bounty | Hay Guyz |
| 17:52.58 | JademusSreg | Hi there. |
| 17:53.02 | equinox1911 | hi hi |
| 17:53.26 | Bounty | Any luck with that layout file yet Jade |
| 17:53.29 | Bounty | >< |
| 17:53.52 | JademusSreg | Haven't gotten to it yet. |
| 17:54.16 | Bounty | lame |
| 17:59.49 | flyingspatula | stoopid jump y u no werk how i wunt |
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| 18:19.16 | SoulTaker916_ | jade |
| 18:19.21 | hobbidude | Hey guys, how to check to see if all players in a player group are from one team or another? |
| 18:21.29 | SoulTaker916_ | u have to make a function |
| 18:21.45 | flyingspatula | uh |
| 18:22.30 | flyingspatula | theres a playergrp condition (player in playergrp is from team(team #) but its from the teams when u start the game in lobby |
| 18:23.01 | hobbidude | thats fine |
| 18:23.23 | SoulTaker916_ | let me give u my function |
| 18:23.54 | hobbidude | its ALL playerS not player |
| 18:23.57 | SoulTaker916_ | Player in group Options: Function Return Type: Boolean Parameters player = 0 <Integer> group = (Empty player group) <Player Group> Grammar Text: Player is in Player Group Hint Text: Returns true when the player specified is in the group specified. if the player is not in the group it returns false. Custom Script Code Local Variables num = 0 <Integer> i = 0 |
| 18:28.50 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 18:29.28 | Bounty | Nom Nom |
| 18:30.16 | JademusSreg | Anyway, as far as lobby teams go, the GUI action the returns the team playergroup can be allocated directly to a variable. |
| 18:31.05 | JademusSreg | So if you're trying to make teams based on the lobby, you just make a playergroup variable and initialize it with Players In Team #. |
| 18:31.35 | Bounty | ^ |
| 18:31.42 | hobbidude | its not for lobby teams |
| 18:32.04 | JademusSreg | Then the use of the word "teams" isn't accurate. =D |
| 18:32.09 | Bounty | ^ |
| 18:32.22 | hobbidude | ?? |
| 18:32.31 | hobbidude | i said team not teams |
| 18:32.38 | Bounty | da fuck |
| 18:32.44 | JademusSreg | Singular/plural |
| 18:32.47 | Bounty | Back to the Shire with yeh! |
| 18:32.48 | hobbidude | da |
| 18:33.15 | flyingspatula | STOOPID JUMP I SAY JUMP UP NOT DIG HOLE N JUMP UNDER GROUND |
| 18:33.26 | Bounty | har har |
| 18:33.32 | flyingspatula | im so annoyed |
| 18:33.35 | flyingspatula | why the fuck it does this |
| 18:33.43 | Bounty | a struggling young artist... this is the story of flyingspatula |
| 18:33.49 | flyingspatula | :( |
| 18:33.53 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 18:34.06 | Bounty | I can make you feel even worse if you want flyingspatula |
| 18:34.15 | flyingspatula | feel free |
| 18:34.35 | Bounty | within 2 days i have a new tps and it features camera collision, data based projectile system and destructible environment :) |
| 18:34.40 | Bounty | and no its not doodad hunt 2 |
| 18:34.41 | Bounty | so no worries |
| 18:34.43 | hobbidude | i think he's been smacked too much with his namesake |
| 18:34.57 | JademusSreg | Anyway, "players in a player group are from one team or another?" Team, plurality is implied here. |
| 18:35.17 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 18:35.27 | Bounty | and i made my camera collision in like |
| 18:35.31 | Bounty | what was it jademussreg? |
| 18:35.32 | Bounty | like an hour? |
| 18:35.33 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:35.41 | flyingspatula | show in a utube vid |
| 18:35.43 | Bounty | so simple |
| 18:35.50 | Bounty | meh |
| 18:35.59 | Bounty | not sure if its ready to be announced yet |
| 18:36.04 | JademusSreg | Since the function to get teams refers to lobby teams, and teams are not some other object type in the API, I must assume you mean lobby teams. |
| 18:36.05 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 18:36.22 | hobbidude | yes |
| 18:36.31 | hobbidude | i already know the teams |
| 18:36.34 | hobbidude | thats fine |
| 18:36.35 | flyingspatula | camera collision wasnt hard to make, just isnt perfect |
| 18:36.37 | flyingspatula | never can be |
| 18:36.45 | Bounty | mine works perfectly fine |
| 18:36.46 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:36.49 | JademusSreg | Well, fly isn't having trouble with camera collision, but rather with the camera falling when going over cliffs. Or some other crazy bug. |
| 18:36.55 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 18:37.00 | hobbidude | its finding if ALL the units are own by a team |
| 18:37.01 | flyingspatula | yeah i hate it |
| 18:37.12 | Bounty | i told you how to make it |
| 18:37.16 | Bounty | but you went your own route |
| 18:37.17 | JademusSreg | "teams are not some other object type in the API" |
| 18:37.18 | Bounty | >< |
| 18:37.20 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 18:37.24 | flyingspatula | theres only one way to do it |
| 18:37.26 | flyingspatula | and its that way |
| 18:37.31 | Bounty | really? |
| 18:37.34 | flyingspatula | yeah |
| 18:37.34 | Bounty | im pretty sure i just did it |
| 18:37.37 | flyingspatula | still jumps |
| 18:37.39 | Bounty | and it wasnt that way |
| 18:37.43 | Bounty | jumps? |
| 18:37.53 | flyingspatula | when ur camera goes over a ledge |
| 18:37.56 | flyingspatula | it jumps or dips |
| 18:38.01 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:38.06 | flyingspatula | for a split second becasue its not able to adjust fast enuff or somethign |
| 18:38.06 | JademusSreg | It's more the opposite of jumps. |
| 18:38.10 | JademusSreg | Dips, yes. |
| 18:38.23 | Bounty | well i dont have that problem :) |
| 18:38.24 | JademusSreg | It's longer than a split second if you slow down the game time. |
| 18:38.39 | flyingspatula | well |
| 18:38.41 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 18:38.49 | JademusSreg | And it falls down further. =D |
| 18:38.55 | flyingspatula | doenst make sense that bounty doesnt have the issue |
| 18:39.04 | Bounty | :) |
| 18:39.10 | JademusSreg | Ask him to construct a demo. |
| 18:39.13 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 18:39.14 | Bounty | nope |
| 18:39.17 | Bounty | i tried to help him |
| 18:39.19 | Bounty | like 50 times |
| 18:39.22 | flyingspatula | -_- |
| 18:39.22 | Bounty | he was like NO |
| 18:39.24 | Bounty | FUCK YOU MASTER |
| 18:39.27 | flyingspatula | i listened fool |
| 18:39.27 | Bounty | I WILL BECOME THE TEACHER |
| 18:39.29 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 18:39.31 | Bounty | thats waht he said |
| 18:39.33 | flyingspatula | whatu did was exactlywhat i tried |
| 18:39.35 | Bounty | in person |
| 18:39.37 | Bounty | he showed up at my door |
| 18:39.40 | Bounty | and then pissed on my cat |
| 18:39.40 | flyingspatula | yes |
| 18:39.46 | flyingspatula | but i was like WHERES UR WIFE I CAME FOR HER |
| 18:39.54 | Bounty | in yer dreams |
| 18:39.59 | flyingspatula | but srsly |
| 18:40.15 | flyingspatula | maybe it has something to do with the camera itself |
| 18:40.26 | Bounty | do you use camera objects? |
| 18:40.38 | flyingspatula | i apply a default camera object to each player |
| 18:40.43 | hobbidude | k seems i need to simply it a bit more. |
| 18:40.47 | JademusSreg | hob, when discussing technical subjects, the terms used are important to avoid the inherent ambiguity of language. =D |
| 18:40.52 | Bounty | well i make/use camera objects |
| 18:41.07 | Bounty | much easier |
| 18:41.09 | flyingspatula | so you update your camera object nonstop? |
| 18:41.13 | Bounty | nope |
| 18:41.13 | hobbidude | kk i want to find if all the units in a unit group are owned by player 11 |
| 18:41.14 | Bounty | i told you |
| 18:41.26 | Bounty | follow unit group(convert unit to unit group) |
| 18:41.36 | flyingspatula | oh u just mean that |
| 18:41.54 | Bounty | the camera stats i make as an object |
| 18:41.59 | Bounty | its easier that way |
| 18:42.06 | JademusSreg | Alright. So you want a function that evaluates the owners and returns a bool, and it would return false if any unit is not owned by the player? |
| 18:42.10 | flyingspatula | do u have any ieda what hes saying jade lol |
| 18:42.28 | hobbidude | exactly |
| 18:42.34 | flyingspatula | i mean ofc i have my camera follow the unitgroup |
| 18:42.52 | JademusSreg | Odd thing to want. For what are you using this? |
| 18:43.03 | JademusSreg | Perhaps I can determine a more efficient approach, |
| 18:43.20 | hobbidude | another way to put it is to see if all players in a player group are from one team |
| 18:43.31 | flyingspatula | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:43.39 | flyingspatula | i thot u meant actually making a camera object |
| 18:43.50 | flyingspatula | like copy camera object etc or w/e |
| 18:43.52 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 18:44.06 | JademusSreg | If you would, tell me the ends so I can best determine the means. =D |
| 18:44.19 | hobbidude | capture zone |
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| 18:44.44 | hobbidude | but it can't unit alliances |
| 18:44.53 | hobbidude | can't use alliances srry |
| 18:44.59 | JademusSreg | Is this like charades, but I need to guess the verb? /jest |
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| 18:46.16 | Bounty | You dont need to copy camera objects |
| 18:46.20 | Bounty | you just make one |
| 18:46.28 | Bounty | and apply it to each player when they are in third person |
| 18:46.28 | JademusSreg | Anyway, you want to initiate capture if units in teamX and not !teamX occupy the region y. |
| 18:47.09 | flyingspatula | yeah i know XD before i thot u were saying u were like updating the actual camera object by copying a new one repeatedly or something and i was like, huh?o_O |
| 18:47.11 | JademusSreg | That about right? |
| 18:47.15 | hobbidude | im already famaliar with captures which check to see the tower alliance in comparison to the team or players |
| 18:47.28 | Bounty | no way |
| 18:47.29 | hobbidude | the issue is both teams will have the same alliance with the tower |
| 18:47.31 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:48.18 | JademusSreg | I've done capture systems via data, same logic involved. |
| 18:48.42 | flyingspatula | so when you do ur jump, your just walking ur unit up the cliff but your not adjusting your units fly height are you |
| 18:48.52 | JademusSreg | I assume capturing takes time and isn't instant? |
| 18:48.59 | hobbidude | yup |
| 18:49.25 | JademusSreg | Alright. There are a number of approaches, for both trigger and data. |
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| 18:49.34 | hobbidude | trigger perferably |
| 18:50.10 | Bounty | JademusSreg |
| 18:50.19 | Bounty | I would require your assistance with finding something |
| 18:50.25 | flyingspatula | when i do my guys jump i had to enable ignore terrain height because my unit would jump upward when going over a cliff |
| 18:50.37 | JademusSreg | There's the continuous thread dedicated to checking, "polling", and there's unit enters range events, and there's region events. |
| 18:50.43 | Bounty | I need a more "updated" version of this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4a9Sa0MXes |
| 18:50.46 | JademusSreg | Which approach are you taking currently? |
| 18:50.53 | Bounty | that ISNT the Smash Bros remix |
| 18:51.36 | JademusSreg | http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00514/ |
| 18:51.53 | hobbidude | would be checking - ie periodic event |
| 18:52.21 | Bounty | idk wtf that is JademusSreg |
| 18:52.25 | JademusSreg | Yes, or running from a dedicated thread launched on map init with a while true loop and a wait in it. |
| 18:52.26 | Bounty | did u click the link? |
| 18:52.27 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:52.30 | Bounty | Super Mario Land |
| 18:52.32 | Bounty | the one in Egypt |
| 18:53.06 | JademusSreg | Oops. I only looked at it for a second. Thought it was SMB2. |
| 18:53.12 | JademusSreg | Doki Doki Panic. |
| 18:53.12 | flyingspatula | ok really bounty srs question. what properties are you giving your marine when he jumps? or is he just simply instant moving up and down the cliffs while running your unload animation... bc that wont work for objects |
| 18:53.38 | Bounty | i applied an upgrade that gave him cliff walking |
| 18:53.43 | Bounty | and then removed it when the jump was over |
| 18:53.53 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 18:54.04 | flyingspatula | that still makes your guy pop up while wlaking over the very edge |
| 18:54.11 | flyingspatula | oh well |
| 18:54.52 | flyingspatula | cliff walking didnt seem to work for noncliffs like fences for example i guess that was diff case huh |
| 18:54.58 | JademusSreg | Sorry, can't find a remix of that song with a few seconds of searching. |
| 18:55.10 | Bounty | i did something else for that |
| 18:55.12 | Bounty | i forget what |
| 18:55.13 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:55.16 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 18:55.28 | Bounty | but i made it so no ground pathing would block him aswell |
| 18:55.37 | flyingspatula | right |
| 18:56.39 | Bounty | I'm basically looking for a new Night time theme JademuSsreg |
| 18:56.45 | Bounty | ive used the same one for the first 2 maps |
| 18:56.47 | Bounty | i think its time for a new one |
| 18:58.53 | JademusSreg | Hob, polling tends to be more thread conservative than the other options, which is why I prefer it. But whichever approach you're using, the underlying logic is the same. |
| 18:59.44 | hobbidude | kk ill define the issue better than |
| 19:00.45 | hobbidude | pos |
| 19:00.45 | Bounty | What do you think of this JademusSreg? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JETLGq_0Q1I |
| 19:00.49 | hobbidude | i gtg |
| 19:01.21 | JademusSreg | Pretty nice. |
| 19:01.28 | Bounty | Good for a night time theme? |
| 19:01.40 | Bounty | i think it sounds alittle to intense, like i would need to have something happen at night =P |
| 19:01.41 | JademusSreg | Sure, depending on what the day theme is. |
| 19:01.50 | Bounty | i showed u before remember? |
| 19:01.57 | Bounty | and its in the map |
| 19:02.05 | Bounty | its the one u said sounds like something from the mummy lol |
| 19:02.22 | JademusSreg | I can't remember everything, just the stuff that seems important. =D |
| 19:03.13 | JademusSreg | Anyway, of course something should happen at night. Otherwise, there's no point to the mechanic. |
| 19:03.23 | Bounty | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/68108247/Arabia_Combat.mp3 |
| 19:03.32 | Bounty | thats the daytime theme |
| 19:03.38 | JademusSreg | Though it's odd; I didn't realize Egypt was on Mercury. |
| 19:03.54 | Bounty | what? |
| 19:03.55 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:04.25 | JademusSreg | The day/night transitions are definitely not at a terrestrial rate. |
| 19:04.42 | Bounty | yeah tahts what i figured |
| 19:05.21 | Bounty | i mean this version is good to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZKGotUxVB4 |
| 19:05.26 | Bounty | its the official smash bros remix |
| 19:05.33 | Bounty | but idk if it fits lol |
| 19:05.53 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 19:29.00 | JademusSreg | PEw. |
| 19:29.29 | Bounty | This is a toughie man |
| 19:29.35 | Bounty | such an underrated mario track |
| 19:29.40 | Bounty | easily the best in the franchise imo |
| 19:29.52 | Ashamed | back to work |
| 19:30.43 | Bounty | The only ones i can find JademusSreg are the one i linked u |
| 19:30.51 | Bounty | and its to upbeat |
| 19:30.56 | Bounty | and the other one is to mellow |
| 19:30.57 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:35.43 | Ashamed | your upbeat |
| 19:35.56 | Bounty | you're |
| 19:36.04 | Ashamed | yor upbeat |
| 19:36.09 | Bounty | yer |
| 19:36.51 | Ashamed | ur upbeat |
| 19:37.46 | Bounty | yeour |
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| 20:04.03 | Bounty | Fuck i hate streamster JademusSreg |
| 20:04.13 | Bounty | Its like Fox News |
| 20:04.20 | Bounty | only they are bias against non euros |
| 20:04.31 | Bounty | apparently you and i dont make maps |
| 20:05.47 | Bounty | he fled in fear JademusSreg |
| 20:05.50 | JademusSreg | shrugs. |
| 20:05.52 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:05.54 | Bounty | im like |
| 20:05.55 | Bounty | DONT RUN! |
| 20:05.56 | Bounty | DONT RUN!!! |
| 20:06.00 | Bounty | FACE MEH! |
| 20:06.20 | Bounty | That really pisses me off |
| 20:06.27 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 20:06.46 | Bounty | Niether you nor myself were ever even invited to Mapcraft |
| 20:06.55 | Bounty | yet every week they had a bunch of fucking nobodies |
| 20:07.22 | JademusSreg | I didn't even remember MApcraft was a thing until you mentioned it, so I guess it's mutual. |
| 20:11.21 | Bounty | Apparently according to Moz i've been flying under the radar and he didnt invite me because he couldnt attach anything to my name |
| 20:11.31 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:11.36 | Bounty | Does that make any sense JademusSreg? |
| 20:12.01 | JademusSreg | Perhaps he doesn't look at the frontpage either. |
| 20:19.14 | Ashamed | -.- |
| 20:19.29 | Ashamed | yall going to fuck yourselfs when and if i ever release a map |
| 20:19.39 | Ashamed | i still do work here and there |
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| 20:21.21 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 20:21.42 | JademusSreg | If there is an "if", there is no "when". |
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| 20:23.50 | Bounty | You know what i just remembered |
| 20:23.59 | Bounty | I was part of the Mephs/Rodrirgo circle |
| 20:24.02 | Bounty | a major part |
| 20:24.06 | Bounty | and im like the lost sheep |
| 20:24.17 | Bounty | Mephs and Rodrigo will live on in history forever |
| 20:24.21 | Bounty | Bounty... not so much |
| 20:25.24 | Bounty | Its like i'm on the office and Mephs+Rodrigo are Steve Carrel and i'm everyone else |
| 20:25.25 | Bounty | lololol |
| 20:25.29 | Bounty | BOUNTY CHAT GO |
| 20:25.40 | Bounty | *beep boop boop beep* |
| 20:26.12 | JademusSreg | It's not so much I disagree with your assertions, but rather your concern with recognition. |
| 20:26.44 | Bounty | Nothing wrong with wanting kudos |
| 20:27.11 | Bounty | Fact is, map wise i'm 100000x better than Rod and not as good as Mephs |
| 20:27.25 | Bounty | Yet i get treated like #3 |
| 20:27.27 | Bounty | If that |
| 20:27.31 | Bounty | more like #69 |
| 20:27.34 | Bounty | AMIRITE!? |
| 20:27.55 | Bounty | also, i have started drinking alittle early today so, Bounty chat will be occuring before dark hours. |
| 20:28.08 | JademusSreg | The problem is not recognition itself, but a preoccupation with it. |
| 20:28.24 | Bounty | Is that a bad thing? I figure its normal |
| 20:28.55 | JademusSreg | Commonality is not an excuse. |
| 20:29.24 | JademusSreg | Wanting recognition is just like posting shit of Facebook and Twitter, just for the attention. |
| 20:29.36 | JademusSreg | Bounty. You're facebooking. |
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| 20:30.16 | egod | THE PARTY IS HERE? |
| 20:31.03 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 20:34.02 | Ashamed | i know mephs bounty so beat that shit |
| 20:34.15 | Bounty | wait what |
| 20:34.21 | Bounty | I am not facebooking |
| 20:34.29 | Ashamed | yeah i beat his ass in pool |
| 20:34.31 | Bounty | i was recognition for something i did |
| 20:34.34 | Bounty | totally diff |
| 20:34.35 | Ashamed | me and my buddy did actualy |
| 20:34.45 | Bounty | da fuck u talkin bout Ashamed |
| 20:34.46 | Ashamed | and it was him and his girlfriend |
| 20:34.53 | Ashamed | beating mephs in some pool |
| 20:34.57 | Ashamed | up in foco |
| 20:35.13 | Bounty | ok but i dont understand your original statement |
| 20:35.17 | Bounty | [16:33] <Ashamed> i know mephs bounty so beat that shit |
| 20:35.23 | Ashamed | ..... i know mephs |
| 20:35.32 | Bounty | yeah but |
| 20:35.32 | Ashamed | i don't understand how you don't get that |
| 20:35.35 | Bounty | "so beat that shit" |
| 20:35.39 | Bounty | beat what shit |
| 20:35.43 | Bounty | beat contra? |
| 20:35.46 | Ashamed | well you were bragging about being in his "circle" or what not |
| 20:35.52 | Ashamed | so i was like well i know him... beat that shit |
| 20:35.54 | Bounty | no |
| 20:36.00 | Bounty | i didnt say the circle of mephs |
| 20:36.13 | Bounty | I was talking about the Rodrigo/Mephs circle |
| 20:36.18 | JademusSreg | Not different, Bounty, not at all. Those people posting images of the meals they've prepared, the silly candid photos of their mundane life events, they did those things as well. |
| 20:36.32 | Bounty | No JademusSreg |
| 20:36.35 | Ashamed | YES |
| 20:36.41 | Bounty | That is so different |
| 20:36.49 | JademusSreg | Naw. |
| 20:36.53 | Bounty | So different in fact i would very much bitch slap you |
| 20:36.56 | Bounty | If you were next to me |
| 20:37.02 | Bounty | Baby power included |
| 20:37.03 | JademusSreg | It amounts to the same desire for attention. |
| 20:37.06 | Bounty | powder* |
| 20:37.13 | Ashamed | yep |
| 20:37.18 | Ashamed | see bounty ima release my map one day |
| 20:37.21 | Ashamed | and it will BLOW UP |
| 20:37.24 | Bounty | I dont seek attention for EVERYTHING i do |
| 20:37.33 | Bounty | i do for the maps i make |
| 20:37.37 | Bounty | thats different |
| 20:37.42 | Ashamed | and its because only sc2 irc peeps know me |
| 20:38.03 | JademusSreg | The number of things for which you seek attention is not the point of contention, but attention-seeking itself. |
| 20:38.03 | Ashamed | and i never show anyone my work -.- |
| 20:38.17 | egod | are you guys so exited about TOFU? |
| 20:38.21 | Bounty | nope |
| 20:38.22 | Ashamed | OOOOOOOOHMG |
| 20:38.25 | Ashamed | !!!!!!!! !!! ! !! ! ! ! |
| 20:38.27 | Ashamed | ITS SO BA |
| 20:38.31 | egod | hahahah |
| 20:38.40 | Bounty | JademusSreg |
| 20:38.48 | Ashamed | i might jump on to test it |
| 20:38.51 | Ashamed | so i can be like THIS SUCKS |
| 20:38.51 | Bounty | If i built a the worlds tallest building |
| 20:38.58 | Bounty | and want attention for it |
| 20:39.03 | Bounty | Is that facebooking? |
| 20:39.14 | Ashamed | but bounty you have not built the tallest building |
| 20:39.23 | JademusSreg | Tofu is very polished, the most polished map I've ever seen. Roughly on par with a decent Steam indie title. |
| 20:39.24 | Bounty | Its not so much attention as it is recognition |
| 20:39.31 | Ashamed | you have built things here and there.. but honestly your maps are just concepts |
| 20:39.32 | Ashamed | and thats it |
| 20:39.35 | Bounty | That is so wrong JAdemusSreg |
| 20:39.40 | Bounty | SmashCraft is easily the most polished |
| 20:39.53 | Bounty | When we played Tofu had so many issues with performance |
| 20:39.58 | egod | yeah but, its *another* lame hero arena style |
| 20:40.02 | Bounty | im anxious to see how it performs with that stress test |
| 20:40.09 | Bounty | Bc we only had 4 |
| 20:40.13 | Ashamed | bounty you saw it |
| 20:40.14 | Bounty | and it was horrid performance |
| 20:40.15 | Ashamed | it sucks huh |
| 20:40.21 | Bounty | I mean |
| 20:40.22 | Bounty | look |
| 20:40.30 | Bounty | If a map is good, even if it snot my genre of choice |
| 20:40.33 | JademusSreg | If the building merits attention, it will be received. Seeking attention, that just seems desperate. Like facebook. |
| 20:40.33 | Bounty | I'll admit it |
| 20:40.36 | Bounty | Based on that |
| 20:40.45 | Bounty | Its the best ive seen of its genre |
| 20:40.49 | Bounty | but |
| 20:40.53 | Bounty | the performance was shitty |
| 20:41.04 | Bounty | and i didnt like the combat, because i personally hate standard sc2 combat |
| 20:41.05 | JademusSreg | "This cat is so cute, definitely the cutest of my two dozen cats. Please like and comment. <3 " |
| 20:41.09 | JademusSreg | That desperate. |
| 20:41.16 | Bounty | I deserve attention JademusSreg |
| 20:41.21 | Bounty | More than i get |
| 20:41.22 | Bounty | and so do you |
| 20:41.29 | Ashamed | pff jade don't deserve shit |
| 20:41.38 | Bounty | Mozared couldnt even name a single fucking project ive done |
| 20:41.47 | Bounty | and i have 2 news posts on mapster RIGHT NOW |
| 20:41.47 | Ashamed | yeah me neither |
| 20:41.48 | egod | whos the guys who made the first (guitar hero) sc2 version |
| 20:41.51 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 20:41.59 | egod | i cant find it on youtube |
| 20:42.01 | Ashamed | l0l |
| 20:42.12 | Ashamed | its cuz it sux |
| 20:42.13 | Bounty | someone else did what i did? |
| 20:42.17 | Ashamed | yeah |
| 20:42.17 | egod | yes |
| 20:42.19 | Ashamed | way before you |
| 20:42.20 | Bounty | link? |
| 20:42.22 | Ashamed | in beta |
| 20:42.29 | Bounty | r u talking about that dance dance revolution map? |
| 20:42.29 | Ashamed | you aint shit bounty |
| 20:42.30 | egod | i cant find the video |
| 20:42.33 | Bounty | bc thats not even the same |
| 20:42.34 | Bounty | at all |
| 20:42.37 | Bounty | the music didnt sync at all |
| 20:42.41 | egod | hm |
| 20:42.44 | Bounty | and it was a basic rhythm game |
| 20:42.48 | Bounty | i played it |
| 20:42.55 | Bounty | is that what you guys are talking about? |
| 20:43.18 | Bounty | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/sc2dancedancerevolution-pre-alph/ |
| 20:43.19 | Bounty | that? |
| 20:43.50 | egod | oh yes |
| 20:44.02 | egod | it look better than you actuelly |
| 20:44.17 | Bounty | lol? |
| 20:44.25 | Bounty | it doesnt even fucking sync up beyond the first 10 seconds |
| 20:44.41 | Bounty | and mine was a concept demo |
| 20:45.21 | egod | yeah but, i want to click the sound and not move a marine |
| 20:45.44 | Bounty | ok but |
| 20:45.50 | Bounty | and im surprised you didnt realize this |
| 20:46.00 | Bounty | The reason its not a real rhythm game is bc it wouldnt work on bnet |
| 20:46.08 | Bounty | it was an actual concept that could be done on bnet |
| 20:46.30 | egod | to much lag? |
| 20:46.34 | egod | you tested it? |
| 20:46.38 | Bounty | my concept? |
| 20:46.45 | Bounty | it works fine |
| 20:46.54 | Bounty | but with stuff like that DDR map |
| 20:46.58 | Bounty | that has zero chance of working properly |
| 20:47.02 | egod | hm |
| 20:47.06 | JademusSreg | I don't see much value in getting hung up on what other people think, and that goes both ways. A favorable opinion is as worthless as an unfavorable opinion and, unless you're in politics or marketing or a sector dependent on either of those, useless, too. |
| 20:47.07 | Bounty | u can sync the notes |
| 20:47.11 | Bounty | but u cant sync the keypress |
| 20:47.13 | Bounty | overbnet |
| 20:47.29 | egod | well |
| 20:47.45 | Bounty | Considering 95% of my maps rely on high player count Jade, i have to give a shit about what others think |
| 20:47.45 | egod | if i change keyboard for mouse button |
| 20:47.52 | Bounty | doesnt matter |
| 20:48.02 | JademusSreg | Naw, you just don't design the gameplay to scale. |
| 20:48.03 | Bounty | there is always a slight delay |
| 20:48.11 | JademusSreg | If you did, it wouldn't be an issue. |
| 20:48.18 | Bounty | lol? |
| 20:48.32 | Bounty | name a single map that i could have designed the gameplay to scale |
| 20:48.34 | Bounty | with lower player count |
| 20:48.39 | Bounty | that i didnt |
| 20:48.57 | JademusSreg | I seem to have suddenly forgotten the names of your maps. /jest |
| 20:49.02 | Bounty | Har Har |
| 20:49.04 | Bounty | USOFUNNYBRO |
| 20:49.16 | Bounty | u maka meh laff |
| 20:49.21 | JademusSreg | Thanks. |
| 20:49.38 | egod | when i think about Bouty i think about the FirestPersonShooter video i saw 1-2 years ago |
| 20:49.52 | egod | but the map never release |
| 20:49.59 | Bounty | ? |
| 20:50.04 | Bounty | u sure it didnt release? |
| 20:50.09 | egod | yeah im sure |
| 20:50.10 | Bounty | whichever one ur talking about |
| 20:50.20 | Bounty | what was it called? describe it if u can |
| 20:50.23 | egod | the blue environmment with a marine |
| 20:50.45 | Bounty | uhh |
| 20:51.14 | Bounty | i dont even see anything like that in my video list |
| 20:51.15 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:51.22 | JademusSreg | I remember the video. |
| 20:51.26 | JademusSreg | That wasn't Bounty. |
| 20:51.36 | Bounty | Great |
| 20:51.36 | egod | really? |
| 20:51.39 | Bounty | just fucking great |
| 20:51.45 | JademusSreg | But I think that person told Bounty how to use protraits to make the fps gun thing. |
| 20:51.47 | Bounty | Not only do people not associate anything with my name |
| 20:51.53 | Bounty | But the people who do associate shit i didnt even do |
| 20:51.56 | JademusSreg | *portraits |
| 20:51.56 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:52.06 | egod | i was sure it was you for some reason |
| 20:52.19 | Bounty | bc if its third person its usually me |
| 20:52.23 | Bounty | 9 times out of 10 |
| 20:53.29 | egod | we should all go watch how to make terrain front page of sc2mpaster, im pretty noob to place a rock |
| 20:53.50 | JademusSreg | I think that just ended. |
| 20:54.00 | egod | lool great |
| 20:54.01 | Bounty | Is my current project even worth it JademusSreg? In your honest opinion |
| 20:54.04 | JademusSreg | It led to Bounty's current emotional state. |
| 20:54.15 | Bounty | + alcohol |
| 20:54.17 | Bounty | as usual |
| 20:54.21 | egod | the guitar hero thing? seriously...no haha |
| 20:54.22 | Bounty | beer rage |
| 20:54.25 | Bounty | no |
| 20:54.29 | Bounty | thats not my current project |
| 20:54.31 | Bounty | not even close |
| 20:54.31 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:54.34 | egod | so what it is |
| 20:54.35 | Bounty | that was just a concept |
| 20:54.39 | Bounty | i cant stress it enough |
| 20:54.44 | Bounty | tis a secret |
| 20:54.53 | Bounty | its a sequel to another map |
| 20:55.01 | Bounty | very much improved |
| 20:55.06 | egod | the map with a blue marine right? lol |
| 20:55.10 | Bounty | yeah sure |
| 20:55.46 | egod | i like the one with a hero you smash a ogre |
| 20:55.52 | egod | like WoW |
| 20:56.01 | Bounty | that eventually became TriFaction |
| 20:56.11 | egod | ya |
| 20:56.12 | Bounty | which was killed by the drop bug |
| 20:56.18 | JademusSreg | Bounty, I've told you before that I am not your target demographic, so asking me ambiguous questions about the value of a map will not result in satisfactory responses. |
| 20:56.26 | Bounty | got tired of having 14 ppl to play, then after we start 8 people drop |
| 20:56.41 | egod | ah |
| 20:56.46 | Bounty | Thats the point JademusSreg |
| 20:56.50 | Bounty | you're not my target |
| 20:57.06 | Bounty | If i can get positive responses from you |
| 20:57.11 | Bounty | That is even better |
| 20:57.16 | egod | i cant belive you didnt made the marine firstpersonshooter, let me find the video back |
| 20:57.20 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urMVG2b0khY |
| 20:57.22 | Bounty | ^ |
| 20:57.26 | Bounty | thats trifaction, the most recent version |
| 20:57.49 | egod | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYQTFq4N9rs |
| 20:57.57 | egod | that the map i was sure you did |
| 20:57.58 | Bounty | yeah that was malu |
| 20:58.03 | Bounty | nope |
| 20:58.10 | Bounty | could have but nope lol |
| 20:58.15 | Bounty | not my thing |
| 20:58.16 | Bounty | >< |
| 20:58.48 | JademusSreg | Ah. But I provide technical feedback. There are very few games I play regularly, in my free time, because most games are either dull or have some good mechanics but are full of grindy bullshit to pad it out/. |
| 20:59.17 | Bounty | Ok but you know what i'm doing to do with it |
| 20:59.23 | Bounty | and what the mechanics/concept is |
| 20:59.26 | Bounty | So just based on that |
| 20:59.32 | Bounty | Is it even worth it |
| 20:59.39 | JademusSreg | Worth it in what sense? |
| 20:59.44 | Bounty | To make it |
| 20:59.52 | Bounty | If it will never be played why the fuck bother |
| 21:01.19 | JademusSreg | I'd advise you resist indulging in your bipolarity and just get shit done. If a few words of dismissal from some nobody is enough to make you quit, then you shouldn't start to begin with; but you did start, and you owe it to yourself to finish, and fuck all what anyone else thinks. |
| 21:01.56 | Bounty | huh? |
| 21:01.58 | egod | we should make a Wiki_Mapmaker so we can check who made what |
| 21:02.07 | egod | its confuse |
| 21:02.13 | Bounty | i dont give a fuck about what people say |
| 21:02.18 | Bounty | its about if people even play |
| 21:02.24 | Bounty | so i can play |
| 21:02.26 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:02.57 | Bounty | I was simply asking if you think based of what you know about my current project if its worth going through it |
| 21:02.59 | Bounty | through with* |
| 21:03.28 | Bounty | that would be sweet egod |
| 21:04.51 | egod | im really looking for a SOLID rpg on sc2, the only one good for me is the one from Ahli, Diablo mortar shoud |
| 21:05.08 | Bounty | I've wanted to do one |
| 21:05.14 | JademusSreg | Existential meaning has little to do with other people, it's about getting shit done, the shit in which you choose to invest your (limited) time. When you get on despairing, self-annihilating trips, it's not only annoying, but a huge waste of time. If you rage that people don't recognize you for your work, channel that rage into your work. Just stop complaining, be productive. |
| 21:05.15 | Bounty | Bc ive never done a single player map before |
| 21:05.38 | egod | dont make single player rpg |
| 21:05.46 | Bounty | Jade |
| 21:05.48 | egod | no point |
| 21:05.52 | Bounty | What the fuck are you talking about |
| 21:06.25 | Bounty | I was just asking you if you think based on what you know about the project if its worth pursuing |
| 21:06.27 | Torhal|work | http://brandedcode.com/ |
| 21:06.39 | Bounty | How do you figure egod? |
| 21:07.11 | JademusSreg | Yeah, I'm striking at the roots, as it were. |
| 21:07.33 | Bounty | Well you're making me out to be some emo douchebag |
| 21:08.06 | egod | its weird actuelly, i as sure the malu map was bounty map, did you participate ? |
| 21:08.14 | Bounty | Nope |
| 21:08.17 | Bounty | That was all Malu |
| 21:08.20 | JademusSreg | Well, yes, though it's not quite clear what "emo" is supposed to mean in this context. Emotional? You are emotional. |
| 21:08.46 | egod | he have emotion talking to you |
| 21:08.47 | Bounty | Well i disagree |
| 21:09.08 | Bounty | The only emotion i ever show in thsi irc is rage lol |
| 21:09.12 | Bounty | thats not "emotional" |
| 21:09.17 | Bounty | thats one emotion |
| 21:09.19 | JademusSreg | Sure it is. |
| 21:09.54 | JademusSreg | A single number is still numerical; it's a class of things. Even if you only have a single instance of that class, it's still of that class. |
| 21:09.59 | Bounty | Well just dont use the word because when i hear it i think crying bitch |
| 21:10.24 | Bounty | Nothing wrong with being mad |
| 21:10.27 | JademusSreg | That's informative. |
| 21:10.42 | JademusSreg | The former, not the latter. |
| 21:10.58 | Bounty | <Bounty> Well just dont use the word because when i hear it i think crying bitch |
| 21:10.59 | Bounty | that? |
| 21:11.13 | Bounty | How is it informative? informative of what? lol |
| 21:11.26 | egod | when is patch 1,5 |
| 21:11.31 | Bounty | never |
| 21:11.46 | egod | after or before d3? |
| 21:11.52 | Bounty | Besides, you have nothign to worry about egod |
| 21:12.04 | JademusSreg | Anyway, instead of expressing uncertainty and shit, you'd be better off -not- doing that. I don't even need to propose an alternative because by not doing that, you will already be default be doing something, anything, infinitely more productive. |
| 21:12.09 | Bounty | one year you're working on a diablo based map, then next year you're working on a fucking Zelda remake |
| 21:12.14 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:12.15 | JademusSreg | 1.5 is Soon. |
| 21:12.31 | egod | im back with diablo again |
| 21:12.37 | Bounty | for now |
| 21:12.53 | Bounty | You have to look at it from my perspective Jade |
| 21:12.58 | Bounty | 24-25 projects |
| 21:13.05 | egod | yeah well, i made my own hack and slash engine like you have your own 3rd person combat engine bounty |
| 21:13.11 | Bounty | All stopped/failed because of the same damn reason |
| 21:13.14 | egod | so i testing stuff |
| 21:13.33 | Bounty | Yeah i thought your Zelda slash engine was cool |
| 21:13.36 | Bounty | was wondering how u would do it |
| 21:13.37 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:13.40 | JademusSreg | That reason is probably "Bounty gave up on us, and now we're all very sad". |
| 21:13.48 | Bounty | nope |
| 21:13.57 | Bounty | Despite popular believe |
| 21:14.01 | Bounty | mapping is NEVER a one map job |
| 21:14.05 | Bounty | You need the players/testers |
| 21:14.10 | Bounty | without them u cant do it in the end |
| 21:14.23 | Bounty | belief* |
| 21:14.42 | Bounty | and u cant tell me thats not a big deal |
| 21:14.48 | Ahli | unless u make a singleplayer map |
| 21:14.53 | Bounty | bc ive seen what happens when u get the perfect map/concept |
| 21:15.00 | JademusSreg | That's obvious; it's an ecosystem. Similarly, a business does not exist in a vaccuum, it needs customers, investors, suppliers. |
| 21:15.06 | Bounty | i cant even describe how easy it was to get testers for Doodad hunt |
| 21:15.11 | Bounty | the test games would fill up in seconds |
| 21:15.24 | Bounty | and would usually leave about 10-15 people out of luck |
| 21:15.26 | Bounty | so i know its possible |
| 21:15.31 | Bounty | to hit that sweet spot |
| 21:15.58 | Bounty | and yes Ahli |
| 21:16.01 | Bounty | unless i make a SP map |
| 21:16.02 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:16.10 | Bounty | which if i ever did, would be some sort of RPG |
| 21:16.11 | egod | dont make SP, waste of time |
| 21:16.13 | *** join/#sc2mapster AlphA_VsT (~Joeffect@c-67-188-153-243.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 21:16.14 | Bounty | Third person of course |
| 21:16.14 | Bounty | =P |
| 21:16.29 | Bounty | Its really not egod |
| 21:16.32 | Bounty | Because the way i see it |
| 21:16.41 | egod | i will never play a SP map, never |
| 21:16.47 | Bounty | a single player maps gives your players the best odds of experiencing your map the way you intended |
| 21:16.54 | Bounty | say you see a new map released |
| 21:16.57 | Bounty | and u think it looks cool? |
| 21:16.59 | Bounty | guess what |
| 21:17.04 | Bounty | if its not SP, u gotta find other ppl to enjoy it |
| 21:17.12 | Bounty | if it is SP, u can just hop right in |
| 21:17.16 | Bounty | and get to work |
| 21:17.21 | Bounty | thats a HUGE benefit |
| 21:17.31 | egod | nah |
| 21:17.32 | Bounty | that means every single person that even SOMEWHAT likes your map will play it |
| 21:17.41 | egod | you missing the *fun factor* |
| 21:17.45 | Bounty | without the fear of sitting in a lobby by themselves |
| 21:17.53 | Bounty | explain |
| 21:18.04 | Bounty | not sure what you mean exactly lol |
| 21:18.49 | egod | i dont have fun playing a SP map at all, i wanna interac with people , im on Bnet! |
| 21:19.03 | Bounty | That means absolutely nothing |
| 21:19.06 | Bounty | I hate SP aswell |
| 21:19.10 | Bounty | But every once and awhile |
| 21:19.15 | JademusSreg | If one were to have ~25 automotive accidents, insurance providers would rightfully charge that person outrageous rates, even if all of those accidents were influenced by poor road design, a shoddy vehicle model, a blind intersection, because the circumstances aside, that person seems inclined to wreck cars, as readily as you wreck your maps. |
| 21:19.21 | Bounty | a SP game can give me that fun factor as you put it |
| 21:19.24 | Bounty | even though i hate SP |
| 21:19.27 | Bounty | it can happen |
| 21:19.33 | egod | for me no |
| 21:19.41 | egod | i cant play a map alone |
| 21:19.45 | Bounty | what the FUCK |
| 21:19.47 | Bounty | JademusSreg |
| 21:19.53 | Bounty | i |
| 21:19.56 | Bounty | i dont even |
| 21:20.01 | Bounty | thats all i can say |
| 21:20.05 | *** join/#sc2mapster Princess_Lun (~IceChat77@user-105n0q0.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 21:20.12 | *** part/#sc2mapster Princess_Lun (~IceChat77@user-105n0q0.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 21:20.20 | Bounty | It really depends on what the concept is egod |
| 21:20.27 | Bounty | i bet i could make a sp game u would play |
| 21:21.03 | egod | if you find a way to make a kind of Ladder Board and compare other SP map player, it can be interesting to play alone |
| 21:21.08 | Bounty | JAdemusSReg |
| 21:21.10 | Bounty | for the record |
| 21:21.15 | Bounty | im not abandoning my project |
| 21:21.22 | Bounty | just wanted to make that clear |
| 21:21.30 | Bounty | i just wanted an opinion from u |
| 21:21.32 | Bounty | nigga |
| 21:21.48 | Bounty | i could see that working egod |
| 21:22.14 | JademusSreg | It was a question reeking of anguish and despair. |
| 21:22.30 | Bounty | ugh |
| 21:22.32 | Bounty | forget it then |
| 21:22.49 | JademusSreg | That's the spirit. |
| 21:23.04 | Bounty | and you call ME emotional? You're the most over dramatic person in IRC history |
| 21:23.06 | Bounty | lolol |
| 21:23.29 | Bounty | Every reply from you is like a fucking Tarantino film |
| 21:23.30 | JademusSreg | Colorful flourishes of speech are dramatic? |
| 21:23.45 | Bounty | You start at the end, then go to the beggining etc |
| 21:25.52 | egod | i realese a playable version of my zelda map 4-5 month ago and i never get banned |
| 21:26.31 | JademusSreg | That's good. |
| 21:26.42 | egod | but with patch 1,5, im not sure it gonna work |
| 21:26.51 | JademusSreg | Why's that? |
| 21:27.33 | egod | blizzard will have a better eye |
| 21:27.40 | JademusSreg | How so? |
| 21:28.24 | Ahli | because blizzard won't see page 1 only |
| 21:28.55 | JademusSreg | See in what sense? |
| 21:29.43 | Ahli | play and notice the content theirselves because nobody reports that I guess |
| 21:29.54 | AlphA_VsT | Oklahoma is one of several states that have passed laws requiring doctors to both perform an ultrasound and provide a verbal description of the fetus before an abortion, while others are considering similar measures. |
| 21:29.56 | Ahli | *themselves? |
| 21:29.58 | AlphA_VsT | fucking sick |
| 21:30.05 | JademusSreg | I think some people might be keen to the game I'm playing. |
| 21:30.29 | egod | ahli |
| 21:30.35 | Bounty | and what game is that Jade |
| 21:30.39 | JademusSreg | Similar to the scene with The Merovingian. |
| 21:30.50 | Bounty | ???????? |
| 21:30.59 | Bounty | the french guy from the matrix? |
| 21:31.06 | egod | im almost done with my inventory (diablo) system, idk how the hell you did your (space item thing) but i give up with this |
| 21:31.39 | Ahli | dialogs all the way... screw sc2's inventory system |
| 21:31.53 | egod | yeah i screw it already hehe |
| 21:32.33 | Ahli | so what's the problem with the spacing? |
| 21:32.45 | egod | to much shit append |
| 21:32.49 | egod | so |
| 21:32.51 | *** join/#sc2mapster Mexa_ (504ed854@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.78.216.84) |
| 21:32.55 | Ahli | you mean the tetris like inventory system, correct? |
| 21:32.59 | egod | i decide to use normal classic, 1 space = 1 item |
| 21:33.17 | Ashamed | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh |
| 21:33.20 | Ashamed | is bounty still bitchen? |
| 21:33.30 | egod | yeah |
| 21:33.31 | Bounty | I'm ashamed you think that |
| 21:33.35 | Bounty | lul |
| 21:33.38 | Bounty | see wut i did thar |
| 21:33.41 | Mexa_ | evenin/night |
| 21:33.46 | Ashamed | what everyone else does -.- |
| 21:33.54 | Bounty | I dont bitch |
| 21:33.55 | Bounty | I rage |
| 21:33.59 | Ashamed | Rage/bitch |
| 21:34.01 | Ashamed | same word |
| 21:34.02 | Bounty | Big difference |
| 21:34.03 | Bounty | nope |
| 21:34.05 | Bounty | Not even close |
| 21:34.07 | egod | i try to calculate space dialog box tetris style, after 2 week, i gave up |
| 21:34.11 | Bounty | Bitch implies tears |
| 21:34.16 | Bounty | Rage implies fists |
| 21:34.24 | Ahli | items need an x and y offset in the inventory. then they need an ID to identify them, then I use the ID to get their height and width out of a function. |
| 21:34.44 | Mexa_ | Interesting topic... |
| 21:35.08 | Bounty | SC2mapster would die without the daily Bounty rage |
| 21:35.26 | Ahli | and I'm using an array to register items to reduce CPU load for searching within the items |
| 21:35.35 | Ashamed | awesome ahli |
| 21:35.56 | Bounty | Are you a boxer Ahli? |
| 21:36.01 | egod | i finised my (item text base system) like for Suffix and Prefix magic item text |
| 21:36.05 | egod | work very well |
| 21:36.07 | Ahli | no, bounty |
| 21:36.18 | Bounty | Are you black? |
| 21:36.23 | Ahli | no |
| 21:36.32 | Bounty | Your name is misleading |
| 21:36.53 | Mexa_ | Elaborate. |
| 21:37.15 | Bounty | I thought he was that dude Will Smith played in that movie |
| 21:37.26 | Bounty | Some boxer |
| 21:37.54 | Ashamed | mahamid ahli? |
| 21:38.03 | Bounty | Even though i dont know how to spell it |
| 21:38.08 | Bounty | I know that is SO fuckign wrong |
| 21:38.09 | Bounty | but yes |
| 21:38.09 | Ashamed | i don't either |
| 21:38.10 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:38.14 | Ashamed | lol |
| 21:38.16 | Ahli | I'm white, 23, German, no migration background, studying information systems, my father died half year ago, my nick has something to do with my lastname. |
| 21:38.16 | egod | ahli check my inv (live) http://www.livestream.com/tristramsc2RPGegod |
| 21:38.21 | Bounty | I think its likle |
| 21:38.24 | Bounty | Muhahmmed |
| 21:38.28 | Bounty | haha |
| 21:38.30 | Bounty | Muha |
| 21:38.32 | Bounty | hmmed |
| 21:38.35 | Bounty | wow |
| 21:38.40 | Bounty | that was worse than yours |
| 21:39.06 | Ashamed | muhammad ali |
| 21:39.08 | Ashamed | thats it |
| 21:39.19 | Ahli | the internet at my parents house is to terrible for streams. I might check it out on sunday evening when I'm back in the city. |
| 21:39.30 | flyingspatula | . |
| 21:39.36 | Bounty | I used to stream, once upon a time |
| 21:39.42 | Bounty | JademusSreg was my only viewer |
| 21:39.48 | flyingspatula | stream what |
| 21:39.49 | Bounty | That or it was just me |
| 21:39.54 | egod | k |
| 21:40.03 | Bounty | I used to stream the development of Project Avatars |
| 21:40.08 | flyingspatula | so i had to get my blood drawn and this lady kept jabbing at my vein :( |
| 21:40.09 | Bounty | nigga |
| 21:40.10 | Ashamed | Which died |
| 21:40.11 | flyingspatula | both arms |
| 21:40.17 | Bounty | It didnt die |
| 21:40.21 | SoulTaker916_ | how do noi fly pathing work? |
| 21:40.22 | Bounty | my hard drive did |
| 21:40.24 | Bounty | big difference |
| 21:40.25 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:40.33 | Ashamed | flyingspatula stop bitchen try having thalastemia or how ever the fuck you spel.l it |
| 21:40.40 | flyingspatula | lolwhat |
| 21:40.43 | Bounty | fuck that |
| 21:40.45 | Ashamed | i have to get my blood drawn like twice a year |
| 21:40.47 | Mexa_ | egod, you still use d2 images on the terrain or did you dump that? |
| 21:40.49 | Bounty | try being addicted to heroin |
| 21:40.50 | Ashamed | and they draw like a gallon |
| 21:40.52 | Bounty | you little bitch |
| 21:40.58 | flyingspatula | i have to get my blood drawn every 3 months |
| 21:40.59 | egod | im using d2 image yup |
| 21:41.00 | flyingspatula | or less |
| 21:41.04 | Mexa_ | k. |
| 21:41.07 | Ashamed | -.- bastard |
| 21:41.10 | Bounty | why? do you have aids or something |
| 21:41.13 | Ashamed | how much they take? |
| 21:41.14 | flyingspatula | -_- |
| 21:41.25 | Bounty | I have never had blood drawn in my life |
| 21:41.34 | Ashamed | AIDS |
| 21:41.39 | Ahli | SoulTaker916_, u place that thing on the map and then air units try to fly through it and fail... like ground units try to move through a line of forcefields and fail. |
| 21:41.40 | flyingspatula | just a vial, last time they took like 5 vials and i passed out so they never did it again. passed out from panic attack that is |
| 21:41.50 | Ashamed | http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001613/ |
| 21:41.53 | Ashamed | that is why i have to do it |
| 21:42.07 | Ahli | it just won't calculate a pathing around, if it's big enough because there is no air pathing layer |
| 21:42.13 | Ashamed | i laugh when they take my blood.. and its always like 6 viles lol |
| 21:42.17 | Ashamed | but i just laugh under my breath |
| 21:42.19 | Ashamed | i have no clue why |
| 21:42.23 | Ashamed | and it creaps the nurses out |
| 21:42.27 | Ashamed | creeps* |
| 21:42.34 | SoulTaker916_ | copping mechanism |
| 21:42.46 | Bounty | I'm almost positive i have some sort of life threatening disease |
| 21:42.46 | flyingspatula | every time i get my blood drawn my entire body shuts down and i have to sit in a chair for 20 minutes until i can leave and drive home |
| 21:42.54 | Bounty | But i'm not sure which one because i dont have insurance |
| 21:43.00 | Bounty | So fuck it |
| 21:43.02 | Ahli | egod, I think I can see the stream... the quality is terrible enough to watch it |
| 21:43.02 | Bounty | We'll find out |
| 21:43.04 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:43.04 | flyingspatula | well be sure u finish some good maps b4 u die |
| 21:43.06 | Ashamed | bounty i didnt either |
| 21:43.10 | Ashamed | but i got a bomg ass job |
| 21:43.11 | SoulTaker916_ | every time they draw blood i almost faint and i get admitted to the hosital |
| 21:43.17 | SoulTaker916_ | for an hour |
| 21:43.17 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 21:43.18 | Ashamed | so now i have been going to the doctors like every other month |
| 21:43.18 | *** join/#sc2mapster Iiris (~chatzilla@99-73-216-198.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:43.22 | flyingspatula | thats how i am pretty much soul |
| 21:43.22 | Iiris | Hello |
| 21:43.24 | SoulTaker916_ | they wont let me move or do anything |
| 21:43.26 | SoulTaker916_ | or leave |
| 21:43.31 | Bounty | Well that will be the first thing i di Ashamed |
| 21:43.33 | Bounty | when i get benefits |
| 21:43.34 | egod | ahli ok hehe |
| 21:43.36 | Bounty | but until then |
| 21:43.40 | SoulTaker916_ | doctor has to see me and release me |
| 21:43.41 | SoulTaker916_ | XD |
| 21:43.42 | Bounty | i will just ignore the symptoms |
| 21:43.45 | Ashamed | i gotta go see a blood specalist like next week >< |
| 21:43.50 | Ashamed | to do the blood drawings |
| 21:43.50 | Bounty | im guessing i have diabetes or something |
| 21:43.51 | Ashamed | sucks |
| 21:43.54 | Bounty | bc of all the shit i eat |
| 21:43.54 | Ashamed | lol |
| 21:43.56 | Bounty | im not fat |
| 21:43.57 | flyingspatula | i have full body paralysis when i get my blood drawn, they know it by now so no hospital |
| 21:43.58 | Bounty | but i eat tons of shit |
| 21:44.03 | Bounty | shit as in microwave food |
| 21:44.06 | Bounty | not actually shit |
| 21:44.09 | Bounty | FYI |
| 21:44.14 | flyingspatula | like 1/3 ppl have diabetes i think |
| 21:44.16 | Iiris | I was hoping someone here might be able to help me real quick with something I need to learn how to do for my map. Anyone wanna help? |
| 21:44.16 | flyingspatula | DIABEETUS |
| 21:44.25 | Ashamed | well i beat you all |
| 21:44.27 | SoulTaker916_ | 07Iiris01 |
| 21:44.30 | SoulTaker916_ | this is irc |
| 21:44.31 | Ashamed | my blood cells kill eachother |
| 21:44.44 | SoulTaker916_ | most places will kick u out the channel for not asking ur question up front |
| 21:44.45 | Mexa_ | Bounty, because everyone really thought you literally ate shit?:P |
| 21:44.47 | Ahli | how does that happen, ashamed? |
| 21:44.55 | Bounty | Never know Mexa_ |
| 21:45.01 | Ashamed | because when my ansestors evolved |
| 21:45.08 | Ashamed | they created something in their blood to stop maleria |
| 21:45.13 | egod | Dustin missing the irc party |
| 21:45.14 | Ashamed | and now that i don't need that |
| 21:45.20 | Iiris | no sense in asking if there is no one here who is willing to help in the first place |
| 21:45.20 | SoulTaker916_ | AUTOIMUNE |
| 21:45.23 | SoulTaker916_ | tada |
| 21:45.24 | Ashamed | it causes adnormal effects in my blood |
| 21:45.28 | Ashamed | Thalassemia is a blood disorder passed down through families (inherited) in which the body makes an abnormal form of hemoglobin, the protein in red blood cells that carries oxygen. The disorder results in excessive destruction of red blood cells, which leads to anemia. |
| 21:45.35 | flyingspatula | jade always helps |
| 21:45.46 | SoulTaker916_ | 07Iiris01, there usaly is but wether we cna help u or not is another issue |
| 21:45.48 | flyingspatula | bounty is just an ass who criticizes u for not understanding what he tells u to do |
| 21:45.48 | Ashamed | it also makes me short of breath much faster |
| 21:45.53 | Bounty | Looks like someone has been to Ancestry.com |
| 21:45.57 | Bounty | *cough Ashamed* |
| 21:45.59 | Ashamed | no |
| 21:46.04 | Ashamed | i just know italians carry it |
| 21:46.06 | Ashamed | and my mom has it |
| 21:46.20 | Bounty | Spatula |
| 21:46.22 | Ashamed | liek i said my ansestors did it as a defense against malaria |
| 21:46.31 | Ashamed | their blood just evolved |
| 21:46.38 | Bounty | I will learn to fly a plane, catch the flying spatula and beat your ass with it |
| 21:46.47 | Bounty | I told you specifically what to do |
| 21:46.49 | Bounty | you understould it |
| 21:46.50 | flyingspatula | lucky for me i know hwo to fly a plane |
| 21:46.50 | Bounty | and said no |
| 21:46.54 | Bounty | fuck you ill do it my way |
| 21:46.56 | Bounty | thats how it went down |
| 21:46.58 | Ashamed | this is how you know if you come from the mediterranean |
| 21:46.59 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:47.00 | egod | when i was 15, i have haked around 50xcomputer with IRC and Cops find me, true story |
| 21:47.10 | egod | hacked |
| 21:47.11 | Iiris | I need help learning how to do spells that work like those from Diablo 3 (i.e. player casts spell A at point, spells fires to point, if it hits an enemy it deals damage to said enemy) |
| 21:47.14 | flyingspatula | what were u telling me to do i forge tbounty |
| 21:47.15 | SoulTaker916_ | ashamed is an xman who has the ability to attavck himself |
| 21:47.20 | flyingspatula | cuz i dont remember this |
| 21:47.23 | Ashamed | lol |
| 21:47.30 | SoulTaker916_ | no need for sentenals now |
| 21:47.35 | Bounty | I got caught stealing a bottle of Robotussin when i was 17, for some reason they thought i was going to make meth with it. |
| 21:47.35 | Ashamed | i have thalassemia minor |
| 21:47.39 | Iiris | but doesn't lock on to a target |
| 21:47.39 | Ashamed | so in reality its not too bad |
| 21:47.41 | *** join/#sc2mapster RipperRoo (~RipperRoo@pC19F778D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:47.54 | flyingspatula | ive always considered your advice, then compared it to jades advice and picked jades lololol |
| 21:48.00 | Bounty | Yeah |
| 21:48.00 | egod | lol bounty |
| 21:48.02 | Bounty | and look at you now |
| 21:48.05 | Ahli | Iiris, launch projectile to target point, give a buff that searches enemies and lets the missile explode and deal damage... |
| 21:48.05 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 21:48.05 | Bounty | all fucked up |
| 21:48.08 | flyingspatula | psh |
| 21:48.18 | Bounty | im serious egod |
| 21:48.22 | Bounty | they thought i was tryign to make meth |
| 21:48.25 | Bounty | i even told the cops |
| 21:48.25 | flyingspatula | hey ill figure out what the deal is with my terrain crap |
| 21:48.25 | SoulTaker916_ | 07Iiris01, i cant help since its not a strong area for mne, and alot of people arnt good wqith data |
| 21:48.29 | Iiris | Ahli: i have no clue what you mean by that |
| 21:48.29 | Bounty | i was just going to chug the bottle |
| 21:48.30 | Bounty | and get high |
| 21:48.31 | Ashamed | but one of the symptoms are growth failure which i am only 5,6 lol |
| 21:48.32 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:49.00 | flyingspatula | I had a probation officer when I was 6. I was under house arrest and had to wear an ankle bracelet for 6 months. |
| 21:49.05 | Iiris | I need a guide on how to make such spells |
| 21:49.31 | Bounty | You know who i feel bad for? People who come here expecting help. |
| 21:49.35 | SoulTaker916_ | 07Iiris01 i suggest searching the forums abit and doing some tutorials ur question would take accouple hours to answer |
| 21:49.35 | Bounty | No offense to those people |
| 21:49.40 | Ahli | Iiris, do u know how to make a missile attack? if yes, change target to point instead of unit and give the projectile's unit a behavior that has a periodic search effect searching for at least 1 enemy which causes a splash damage effect and suicide on the missile. |
| 21:49.49 | flyingspatula | I always get help biounty. |
| 21:49.57 | Bounty | sure has done you well |
| 21:50.00 | Iiris | I did, found nothing on how to make Diablo 3 style spells |
| 21:50.00 | Bounty | lolol |
| 21:50.05 | flyingspatula | indeed it has |
| 21:50.14 | egod | Diablo3 spell is all about, Point and Shoot |
| 21:50.17 | flyingspatula | if you werent such a dick ud prolly be just as helpful as jade |
| 21:50.19 | flyingspatula | lolol |
| 21:50.24 | Bounty | oh please |
| 21:50.31 | SoulTaker916_ | 07Iiris01 wenn the forums is a tool to learn it doesnt have the answers just how everyhting fits togetaher |
| 21:50.35 | Bounty | i'm 10x more nice than JademusSreg |
| 21:50.41 | Bounty | You just rejected my advice |
| 21:50.45 | Bounty | and now you pay the price |
| 21:50.47 | SoulTaker916_ | lol!!! |
| 21:51.03 | flyingspatula | OH HI IM BOUNTY I JUST MADE EXACTLY WHAT U DID IN 1/100TH OF THE TIME AND 100X BETTER BUT IM JUST GONNA RUB MY COCK IN YOUR FACE AND NOT TELL U HOW I DID IT |
| 21:51.09 | egod | For all Diablo3 spell, you need a Projectile that gonna hit a monster by x meter |
| 21:51.15 | flyingspatula | psh ive never rejected any advice |
| 21:51.16 | SoulTaker916_ | LOLZ!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:51.17 | Bounty | First off |
| 21:51.19 | flyingspatula | i always try both ways |
| 21:51.22 | Iiris | All the spells on my map will work like Diablo 3 spells |
| 21:51.23 | Bounty | I never rubbed my cock in your face |
| 21:51.29 | Bounty | and i asked you before i told you |
| 21:51.31 | AlphA_VsT | you want to |
| 21:51.32 | Bounty | I said Spatula |
| 21:51.33 | AlphA_VsT | :P |
| 21:51.37 | SoulTaker916_ | 07flyingspatula01 is the biggest troll here XD |
| 21:51.38 | SoulTaker916_ | ahaha |
| 21:51.38 | Bounty | I could make you feel 10x more shitty |
| 21:51.41 | Iiris | I saw no tutorials on it. |
| 21:51.44 | Bounty | May i? |
| 21:51.45 | flyingspatula | loooool |
| 21:51.45 | Bounty | and you said yes |
| 21:51.51 | Bounty | So next time |
| 21:51.53 | Bounty | dont say yes |
| 21:51.55 | flyingspatula | nah its cool bro |
| 21:51.57 | Bounty | or next time |
| 21:52.01 | Bounty | i will rub my cock in your face |
| 21:52.03 | Ahli | search colliding projectiles, Iiris |
| 21:52.04 | flyingspatula | more cock in my face |
| 21:52.10 | flyingspatula | no homo |
| 21:52.10 | flyingspatula | ofc |
| 21:52.14 | Bounty | no |
| 21:52.18 | Bounty | no no homo |
| 21:52.24 | Bounty | ill rub it and you will like it |
| 21:52.26 | Bounty | like a homo |
| 21:52.34 | Ahli | bounty, mad |
| 21:52.39 | SoulTaker916_ | i remewmber in sc1 some guy keep saying hop off my nuts |
| 21:52.40 | Ashamed | bounty is just talking from experiance |
| 21:52.42 | SoulTaker916_ | over and over |
| 21:52.43 | flyingspatula | have u ever been sucked off by a homo? AMAZING |
| 21:52.44 | Ashamed | i give him my cock alllllll the time |
| 21:52.47 | SoulTaker916_ | i swear he was gay |
| 21:52.49 | Bounty | ZING |
| 21:53.07 | Mexa_ | Mature chat is being mature? |
| 21:53.11 | Bounty | I wouldnt be surprised if men sucked cock better than women |
| 21:53.18 | SoulTaker916_ | were the fuck do u think we are? |
| 21:53.18 | Ashamed | l0l bounty |
| 21:53.24 | Ashamed | you already know |
| 21:53.24 | flyingspatula | no but srsly bounty. i take all ur advice to heart |
| 21:53.26 | SoulTaker916_ | world of warcraft? |
| 21:53.27 | SoulTaker916_ | AH |
| 21:53.38 | SoulTaker916_ | THIS IS STARCRAFT!!! *kicks u into pit* |
| 21:53.45 | Bounty | 1/100 |
| 21:53.55 | Bounty | How old of a meme could you have chosen Taker? |
| 21:53.57 | Bounty | seriously? |
| 21:53.58 | Bounty | 300? |
| 21:54.00 | Bounty | jesus christ |
| 21:54.01 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 21:54.06 | Bounty | u were better off with the arrow to the knee |
| 21:54.09 | flyingspatula | i remember that shirt 299 die |
| 21:54.10 | SoulTaker916_ | LOL\ |
| 21:54.17 | SoulTaker916_ | ILL chose what ever memee i want |
| 21:54.23 | SoulTaker916_ | and u can suck me good |
| 21:54.27 | egod | arrow to the knee, Ace ventura link: |
| 21:54.36 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 21:54.40 | Mexa_ | Bounty, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSDfxde8fSg and that will happend. |
| 21:55.38 | egod | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP_JN6TKQFw |
| 21:55.57 | Bounty | GJ egod |
| 21:55.59 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:56.11 | Bounty | its really not an arrow to his knee |
| 21:56.16 | Bounty | its a spear to his thigh |
| 21:57.26 | Iiris | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.35 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 21:57.56 | JademusSreg | What about projectiles? |
| 21:58.03 | Bounty | lololol |
| 21:58.13 | JademusSreg | Bounty, don't do it. |
| 21:58.16 | flyingspatula | so bounty this here new camera collisiojn u made, is it for just the ground and cliffs? |
| 21:58.18 | Bounty | im not |
| 21:58.27 | Bounty | im done giving help/advice |
| 21:58.29 | Bounty | forever |
| 21:58.33 | JademusSreg | Alright. |
| 21:58.34 | flyingspatula | bitch |
| 21:58.38 | Bounty | even though my methods work better |
| 21:58.38 | SoulTaker916_ | YES!!! |
| 21:58.41 | SoulTaker916_ | BOUNTY IS DONE |
| 21:58.44 | SoulTaker916_ | HALLEUA!!! |
| 21:58.48 | Bounty | but hey nobody wants to listen |
| 21:58.48 | flyingspatula | bounty |
| 21:58.49 | Bounty | thats fine |
| 21:58.50 | Bounty | >< |
| 21:58.52 | SoulTaker916_ | PRAISE JESUS ITS A MIRICLE |
| 21:58.55 | Iiris | JademusSreg: I need help learning how to do spells that work like those from Diablo 3 (i.e. player casts spell A at point, spells fires to point, if it hits an enemy it deals damage to said enemy) |
| 21:58.56 | Ahli | the guide is: add a buff with a periodic effect which is a search effect, searching for enemy units, if it finds one, you execute a set which contains a damage dealing set and a suicide effect |
| 21:59.01 | flyingspatula | ive always taken urs and jades and tried both ways |
| 21:59.04 | Ahli | *to the projectile |
| 21:59.10 | SoulTaker916_ | LOL |
| 21:59.16 | Iiris | Ahli: I don't know what any of that means |
| 21:59.22 | SoulTaker916_ | 07flyingspatula01 is bisexual with suggestions |
| 21:59.26 | SoulTaker916_ | takes it both ways |
| 21:59.26 | SoulTaker916_ | XD |
| 21:59.31 | flyingspatula | exactly |
| 21:59.43 | Bounty | There is no way you took my advice |
| 21:59.46 | Ahli | buff is a behavior which is a thing in the data editor |
| 21:59.47 | flyingspatula | Freudian slip |
| 21:59.50 | Bounty | be i did what i told you to |
| 21:59.51 | JademusSreg | And you want the projectile to only impact the target point in an aoe or you want it to collide with any targets in the way? |
| 21:59.52 | Bounty | in 5 minutes |
| 21:59.52 | Bounty | boom |
| 21:59.56 | Bounty | i had camera collision |
| 22:00.05 | flyingspatula | u never gave me camera collision advice |
| 22:00.08 | flyingspatula | -_- |
| 22:00.09 | Bounty | yes i did |
| 22:00.11 | Iiris | I just want my spells to work like D3 spells |
| 22:00.24 | Bounty | and if you're trying to trick me into saying it again |
| 22:00.27 | Bounty | i will not |
| 22:00.32 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 22:00.33 | Bounty | go read the irc logs |
| 22:00.33 | JademusSreg | That's sort of vague; I don't keep up with Diablo 3 news. |
| 22:00.35 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:00.37 | Iiris | travels to point, if it hits an enemy deal damage to said enemy |
| 22:00.42 | flyingspatula | well |
| 22:00.57 | flyingspatula | i think u commented the very basic concept |
| 22:01.01 | flyingspatula | which i was doing |
| 22:01.09 | JademusSreg | And only that enemy? Sort of odd for a target point ability. |
| 22:01.14 | flyingspatula | oh |
| 22:01.16 | flyingspatula | you meant |
| 22:01.19 | flyingspatula | the camera eye thing |
| 22:01.33 | flyingspatula | and i told u i didnt understand wtf u were talking about |
| 22:01.39 | flyingspatula | and ur like FUCK U I DONT CARE ANYMORE |
| 22:01.51 | Bounty | Pretty sure i didnt say that |
| 22:01.58 | flyingspatula | but uh |
| 22:02.05 | Bounty | I just slapped you with my sack and went to bed |
| 22:02.09 | flyingspatula | probably |
| 22:02.20 | flyingspatula | there is no camera eye |
| 22:02.22 | Bounty | I'll give you a hint |
| 22:02.24 | flyingspatula | or |
| 22:02.25 | Bounty | And tahts it |
| 22:02.27 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 22:02.29 | Bounty | That good enough? |
| 22:02.30 | SoulTaker916_ | XD |
| 22:02.32 | flyingspatula | fine |
| 22:02.36 | Bounty | If you can't figure it out |
| 22:02.39 | Iiris | like for example: I shoot a Frostbolt to point A, the caster shots a bolt towards point A if it hits an enemy it deals damage to said enemy and the bolt is gone |
| 22:02.43 | Bounty | Then its sack slapping time |
| 22:02.47 | Bounty | One word |
| 22:02.51 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 22:02.52 | Bounty | PATHING |
| 22:02.57 | Bounty | and.. go |
| 22:03.35 | flyingspatula | well pathing is obvious. but how u go about it is another story. like checking the pathing in a loop like from max cam distance all the way to ur unit |
| 22:03.44 | flyingspatula | in intervals |
| 22:03.53 | flyingspatula | thats the only way i could think of doing it |
| 22:04.01 | Bounty | Not saying anything |
| 22:04.04 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 22:04.06 | Bounty | You can figure it out |
| 22:04.24 | flyingspatula | thats the ONLY way |
| 22:04.24 | Bounty | Easily |
| 22:04.24 | flyingspatula | u can do it |
| 22:04.24 | flyingspatula | checking polar offset in a loop |
| 22:04.24 | Iiris | I guess I'm not gonna get any help then :( |
| 22:04.41 | Bounty | I'm sure JademusSreg is typing a reply to you as we speak Iiris |
| 22:04.41 | JademusSreg | I do some neat stuff with projectiles at targeted points in this map. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/StarCraft%202/Defunct/BossXelNagaAI.SC2Map |
| 22:04.46 | Bounty | boom |
| 22:04.48 | Bounty | told ya |
| 22:04.48 | flyingspatula | lool |
| 22:05.06 | flyingspatula | but bounty as i was saying earlier. theres NO way u cant sometimes clip intto the terrain or cliffs for a split second |
| 22:05.26 | Iiris | So you expect me to decode what someone did without any sort of guide |
| 22:05.32 | Bounty | *shrug* |
| 22:05.40 | Iiris | I prefer guides on how to do things |
| 22:05.41 | JademusSreg | Naw. |
| 22:05.44 | Bounty | maybe my editor is just better |
| 22:05.45 | JademusSreg | I'll explain the basics. |
| 22:05.57 | Bounty | or |
| 22:05.59 | Bounty | just dont use cliffs |
| 22:06.00 | flyingspatula | well cliffs dont dip for u so |
| 22:06.02 | flyingspatula | urs must be |
| 22:06.05 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 22:06.05 | Ahli | use more words than I did, Jade |
| 22:06.17 | Bounty | make your own custom "cliffs" |
| 22:06.25 | Bounty | with terrain height |
| 22:06.29 | flyingspatula | yeah i tried that, jade saw that they have asme affect |
| 22:06.30 | flyingspatula | same* |
| 22:06.32 | flyingspatula | XD |
| 22:06.43 | flyingspatula | i think my map is broken! |
| 22:06.47 | flyingspatula | i blame my editor |
| 22:06.49 | SoulTaker916_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=tlC6Z0iRoOA |
| 22:06.50 | SoulTaker916_ | XD |
| 22:06.53 | SoulTaker916_ | LOLZ! |
| 22:06.56 | Bounty | did you ever try... |
| 22:07.04 | Bounty | checking the height at polar offset? |
| 22:07.11 | Bounty | if its greater than X zoom camera in? |
| 22:07.12 | JademusSreg | Ability of Effect - Target type, effect to launch the projectile at the target point, impact effect of Damage type, add an Area to the damage effect so it deals damage if the unit is in the area. Super short version. |
| 22:07.24 | SoulTaker916_ | hay jade i found somthing weird.. |
| 22:07.30 | flyingspatula | are we talking about collision still or the camera dipping on cliff edges? |
| 22:07.32 | JademusSreg | I should mention I don't have the patience for tutorials. |
| 22:07.36 | Bounty | both |
| 22:07.44 | Bounty | you can use pathing to detect camera collision |
| 22:07.48 | Bounty | and height |
| 22:07.49 | SoulTaker916_ | i already told him pratice the forum tutorials |
| 22:08.33 | *** join/#sc2mapster Talila_ (~Lilianna@97-93-24-46.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com) |
| 22:08.37 | Iiris | I don't want the spell to do AOE damage |
| 22:09.07 | Bounty | if height at position of unit offset by -0.1 towards facing of unit > height at position of unit |
| 22:09.08 | Iiris | SoulTaker916_: I found no guides on making D3 style spells |
| 22:09.10 | Bounty | there |
| 22:09.15 | Bounty | then zoom the camera |
| 22:09.27 | SoulTaker916_ | of course why would there be? |
| 22:09.32 | JademusSreg | You said it targets a point. So it must be aoe, in a sense. |
| 22:09.39 | SoulTaker916_ | ur probably the first to makle them lolz |
| 22:09.45 | SoulTaker916_ | but there a bunch of other spells |
| 22:09.49 | JademusSreg | If you want it to target an ability, that's simple. There are examples in the standard data. |
| 22:09.54 | SoulTaker916_ | like cows falling from the sky murdering things |
| 22:09.57 | SoulTaker916_ | and a bunch more |
| 22:09.58 | JademusSreg | *target a unit |
| 22:09.59 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 22:09.59 | Iiris | its not an AOE |
| 22:10.02 | flyingspatula | hm whats the meaning behind the -0.1 |
| 22:10.10 | SoulTaker916_ | well duh |
| 22:10.14 | Iiris | it can only damage the unit it hits |
| 22:10.20 | Bounty | -0.1 = behind the unit by a distance of 0.1 |
| 22:10.23 | Ahli | colliding rpojectiles is pretty much what he needs and I'm 99% sure that there is a tutorial |
| 22:10.26 | SoulTaker916_ | hey JADE |
| 22:10.28 | JademusSreg | So it targets a unit? |
| 22:10.48 | Bounty | Isnt this kind of funny though spatula |
| 22:10.48 | SoulTaker916_ | so i use a diplicate on a supply depo actors models duplicated also |
| 22:10.55 | Bounty | they're all arguing over something i could easily solve |
| 22:10.56 | SoulTaker916_ | and normal supplydepos error out |
| 22:10.59 | flyingspatula | right, but that value you increase/decrease |
| 22:11.00 | Iiris | let me see if I can find a video on youtube showing a basic D3 spell |
| 22:11.01 | SoulTaker916_ | very weird |
| 22:11.03 | Bounty | but apparently my methods are inferior |
| 22:11.04 | flyingspatula | to check for further ranges |
| 22:11.09 | flyingspatula | lol i dont even know what they are aruging about |
| 22:11.14 | JademusSreg | Naw, busy. |
| 22:11.15 | JademusSreg | bbl |
| 22:11.15 | Bounty | projectiles |
| 22:11.19 | Bounty | and collision |
| 22:11.24 | Ahli | basic D3 spell :S D3 spells do not work like THAT |
| 22:11.49 | Ahli | they search for the first target they hit as in every diablo game before |
| 22:12.22 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:12.24 | Bounty | so funny |
| 22:12.44 | Bounty | my projectile system i use in all of my tps maps work just like d3 projectiles >< |
| 22:13.05 | Bounty | BUT |
| 22:13.06 | Iiris | when a D3 spell hits an enemy it only deals damage to said enemy, not aoe damage to every enemy nearby |
| 22:13.21 | Bounty | my methods are inferior |
| 22:13.24 | Bounty | you require JademusSreg |
| 22:13.28 | Bounty | Madam |
| 22:13.45 | egod | that is why you ahve to delete, remove, your projectile when you hit a ennemy |
| 22:13.54 | Ahli | BUT it hits the damage to the monsters it hits first. AND NOT necessarily to the monster you targeted. |
| 22:14.02 | Ahli | *deals |
| 22:14.27 | Bounty | I'll just leave this here |
| 22:14.27 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yb4Y059BngM |
| 22:14.30 | Vailreth | didnt onetwo do a diablo style fireball tutoral |
| 22:14.41 | egod | if your projectile is 1meter from that kind of ennemy, set the ennemy life -1 and delete your projectile |
| 22:14.50 | Ahli | yes he did |
| 22:14.52 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:14.56 | Bounty | this is just so funny |
| 22:14.59 | Bounty | u guys |
| 22:15.01 | Bounty | oh boy |
| 22:15.02 | Bounty | <3 |
| 22:16.31 | Iiris | but JademusSreg thinks the spell would hit the enemy then deal aoe damage to all enemies nearby |
| 22:16.36 | Mexa_ | Hey Bounty, I just come to think of something. Are you planning to release any maps on the arcade marketplace if and when it comes? |
| 22:16.44 | SoulTaker916_ | 07Bounty01 |
| 22:16.51 | SoulTaker916_ | u need to shrink the stalker |
| 22:16.55 | SoulTaker916_ | and goliath abit |
| 22:16.56 | Ahli | let's highlight bounty, more |
| 22:18.37 | Iiris | :( |
| 22:21.12 | Iiris | well, so much for this map idea :( |
| 22:21.28 | SoulTaker916_ | data is wickedly hard |
| 22:21.34 | SoulTaker916_ | pratice some data tutorials |
| 22:21.40 | SoulTaker916_ | they dont have d2 |
| 22:21.46 | SoulTaker916_ | but they can get u rolling |
| 22:21.59 | Iiris | I only need to know how to make D3 style spells |
| 22:22.22 | Iiris | no point in learning how to make something which I don't need for my map |
| 22:23.09 | egod | if you are using the normal sc2 engine and you want to use D3 style spells, you cant, you have first to turn your map hack and slash style with mouse cliick angle shooting projectile |
| 22:23.18 | Ahli | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/17154-data-colliding-projectiles/ fireball thing, remove the area of the damage effect |
| 22:23.21 | Vailreth | what he is saying is learn the general skills needed and you should be able to develop the D3 spells your self... |
| 22:24.00 | Vailreth | but what egod said is also true.. |
| 22:24.35 | Iiris | I already have D3 style movement done |
| 22:24.43 | egod | good |
| 22:25.01 | Iiris | just need a guide on D3 style spells |
| 22:25.02 | egod | so how you choose the skill you want to use? |
| 22:25.06 | Iiris | found none |
| 22:25.19 | Iiris | egod, not there yet |
| 22:25.21 | egod | you click a interface (dialog) ? |
| 22:25.37 | egod | alright |
| 22:25.45 | Iiris | I'll make some kind of skill UI |
| 22:26.01 | egod | start making your UI first |
| 22:26.22 | Ahli | I started with a firebolt spell before I made everything else in my map :o |
| 22:26.27 | Iiris | I'm working on the movement and combat first |
| 22:26.28 | Bounty | back |
| 22:26.29 | Bounty | soultaker |
| 22:26.34 | Bounty | the stalker and goliath in that video |
| 22:26.35 | SoulTaker916_ | wha? |
| 22:26.36 | Bounty | are vehicles |
| 22:26.38 | Bounty | derp |
| 22:26.41 | SoulTaker916_ | oh no wonder |
| 22:26.44 | Bounty | of course they're big |
| 22:26.45 | Bounty | >< |
| 22:27.04 | Bounty | and Mexa_ |
| 22:27.07 | egod | not me, i made my interface first |
| 22:27.08 | Bounty | most likely.. no |
| 22:27.24 | egod | i wanted to be sure i can save my Skill in some kind of F1 F2 F3 stuff like Diablo2 |
| 22:27.31 | egod | worked so i go on |
| 22:27.42 | Mexa_ | k. |
| 22:28.12 | Bounty | I'll be surprised if i last much longer as a mapper |
| 22:28.46 | Bounty | not because of the popularity system but i think i'm the only one who actually wants to play my maps |
| 22:28.47 | Bounty | lolol |
| 22:28.59 | Iiris | egod: I don't think I'll be going that method |
| 22:28.59 | Bounty | I think that may be the problem :) |
| 22:29.40 | egod | me and ahli use the same kind of skill system |
| 22:29.54 | egod | its only 1xskill activate |
| 22:30.03 | egod | and you choose |
| 22:30.14 | flyingspatula | hey bounty, did u find it more effective to start checking cmaera collision from the end of the target distance or up front direclty behind ur unit and then check outward |
| 22:30.30 | Bounty | i set specific points |
| 22:30.41 | flyingspatula | oh but isnt that kind of inaccurate |
| 22:30.45 | Bounty | nope |
| 22:30.52 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 22:31.05 | Bounty | Why zoom the camera in if there is nothing blocking ur view |
| 22:31.07 | flyingspatula | i was just checking from .1 distance to 3max distance |
| 22:31.19 | Bounty | so i set the points to the ones that are capable of having an object blocking view |
| 22:31.53 | egod | Ahli did you try a different camera angle in you map? more like Diablo actuelly |
| 22:31.58 | flyingspatula | well my camera zooms back out if theres nothing blocking |
| 22:32.05 | Bounty | so does mine |
| 22:32.10 | Bounty | your point? |
| 22:32.15 | Ahli | egod, yes I did |
| 22:32.21 | egod | work well? |
| 22:32.37 | flyingspatula | i was just replying to "Why zoom the camera in if there is nothing blocking ur view" |
| 22:32.45 | Iiris | SC2 default camera is already Diablo style |
| 22:32.49 | Ahli | I came to the conclusion that camera bounds don't like it, but I tricked the system to behave slightly more to my favor. |
| 22:32.55 | Ahli | He means zoomed in. |
| 22:33.01 | egod | hm |
| 22:33.13 | Bounty | THE CHAMP IS HERE *boom boom* |
| 22:33.16 | Bounty | THE CHAMP IS HERE |
| 22:33.19 | Iiris | Diablo camera isn't zoomed in |
| 22:33.23 | egod | maybe because yours units and stuff are very small ? no ? |
| 22:33.26 | Ahli | Iiris, if you are on EU or NA, you might want to try out my map "Dia blo - Mortal Shroud" |
| 22:33.53 | Iiris | k |
| 22:34.12 | Iiris | I'm not in the mood to help test right now |
| 22:34.22 | Iiris | I need to work on my map right now |
| 22:34.26 | Bounty | Yeah |
| 22:34.28 | Bounty | that makes sense |
| 22:34.34 | Bounty | not test another map that would help you with yours |
| 22:34.37 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:34.38 | Ahli | You don't need to help test. You can play it to get an impression what your map can be |
| 22:34.47 | Ahli | as I made a diablo map myself ;D |
| 22:35.21 | egod | i really like your shop system ahli, i wanna so much copy/paste this lol |
| 22:35.22 | Iiris | I already have an idea of how I want my map to be |
| 22:35.40 | Ahli | :D |
| 22:35.58 | egod | how many prefixe dans suffix you made in total? |
| 22:35.59 | Iiris | Just need a guide on doing Diablo style spells |
| 22:36.09 | Iiris | no luck finding one yet |
| 22:37.43 | Ahli | suffix: 93, prefix: 79... and you could add some suffixes for books and staves only, too. |
| 22:37.57 | egod | pretty cool |
| 22:38.44 | Ahli | and now I'm implementing unique items ;D |
| 22:39.49 | egod | magic have 1 of 3 to have 1x or 2x prex/suffx rare have 5-6 prex/sufx but there is no rare in diablo1 hehe |
| 22:41.11 | Iiris | maybe someone can write a guide on how to make Diablo style spells ;) |
| 22:41.15 | Mexa_ | Ahli, what's your project? |
| 22:41.33 | Ahli | Dia blo - Mortal Shroud |
| 22:42.34 | Ahli | http://www.staredit.net/topic/13323/ screenshots are old. |
| 22:43.09 | Bounty | I think i might actually start PLAYING games again |
| 22:43.18 | Bounty | any RPG suggestions? |
| 22:43.31 | Bounty | I saw Persona 3 is on sale on PSN for vita |
| 22:45.08 | egod | wait 15 may D3 |
| 22:45.48 | egod | you gonna use your freetime to farm item no-stop :D |
| 22:45.51 | Iiris | so.... |
| 22:45.59 | Bounty | Well i want somethign to do now |
| 22:46.01 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:46.16 | RipperRoo | dont play ahlis map.. u ll become addicted :S |
| 22:46.23 | egod | you have a WoW toon? |
| 22:46.27 | egod | i want do arena |
| 22:46.55 | Iiris | is bored |
| 22:47.41 | Ahli | ^^ ripperroo |
| 22:47.47 | RipperRoo | (: |
| 22:48.41 | Iiris | RipperRoo: whats with the sad face? |
| 22:49.04 | egod | i hit a wall in my map, i item duplicate weird when i Drop the item on the ground from a player |
| 22:49.15 | RipperRoo | where is a sadface? |
| 22:49.30 | Iiris | a few messages up |
| 22:49.42 | RipperRoo | (: that is not a sad message 0o |
| 22:49.48 | Ahli | u implemented the same problems that blizzard implements? |
| 22:49.55 | egod | yes lol |
| 22:49.59 | Ahli | ;D |
| 22:50.01 | RipperRoo | its a smiley just flipped the side |
| 22:50.03 | egod | i can duplicate with my belt |
| 22:50.14 | Iiris | also its : then ( |
| 22:50.25 | Iiris | so happy is : ) |
| 22:50.34 | RipperRoo | yeah (: that his happy too |
| 22:50.34 | Iiris | sad is : ( |
| 22:50.42 | RipperRoo | yeah but i mad (: and not :( |
| 22:50.50 | Mexa_ | Bounty, Path of Exile might be something to check out |
| 22:50.56 | egod | nah, my loop is wrong, i dont get it |
| 22:51.00 | RipperRoo | it is not .. PoE is boring :S |
| 22:51.01 | Iiris | then you want : ) |
| 22:51.09 | Mexa_ | http://www.pathofexile.com/ |
| 22:51.14 | Bounty | I know Mexa_ |
| 22:51.18 | Bounty | but im talking about for now |
| 22:51.29 | Bounty | i might pick up Persona 3 Portable since i have a Vita |
| 22:51.44 | Mexa_ | Well, they have an open weekend beta to stress their servers this weekend |
| 22:51.50 | Bounty | o0o |
| 22:51.59 | Iiris | maybe someone can write a guide on how to make Diablo style spells ;) |
| 22:52.03 | Mexa_ | Or, well, that was what my mail told me :D |
| 22:52.35 | egod | play Diablo3 BETA |
| 22:52.36 | Ahli | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/17154-data-colliding-projectiles/ fireball spell, delete area inside the damage effect... there u go |
| 22:52.51 | Bounty | btw i just wanna say |
| 22:52.53 | Mexa_ | "We're opening up the Path of Exile Beta for public access this weekend, March 30-April 1, so that we can stress-test our servers in preparation for entering Open Beta in a few months." |
| 22:53.04 | RipperRoo | year seriously there are already enough diablo like spell tutorials... u just need to READ them :S |
| 22:53.09 | Bounty | i cant stop laughing at how many people dont understand that the "guitar hero bound" thing is a BASIC CONCEPT DEMO |
| 22:53.27 | egod | lol |
| 22:53.37 | Mexa_ | Call it a prototype next time:> |
| 22:53.46 | egod | its just the fact, moving a marine suck bounty, all about this |
| 22:53.46 | Bounty | its the same thing |
| 22:53.51 | Ahli | it has a moaning girl voice.... u can't expect the nerds to have a working brain then... |
| 22:54.12 | Bounty | well thank god im not going through with it |
| 22:54.15 | Bounty | i know that much |
| 22:54.19 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:54.20 | Mexa_ | Or say both. People may not be familiar enough with those terms. |
| 22:55.09 | Bounty | This was the latest comment |
| 22:55.10 | Bounty | Let me just start off by saying i play protoss.... Only lol... I like this idea. I was expecting this to be something to train hotkeys. like instead of white fuzzy balls going down and u having to dodge them with a unit... Have music play, such as some of starcrafts songs, replace the white fuzz balls with structures and units.. and make main buildings be number four since number 3 or 4 are common hotkey placements for main buildi |
| 22:55.27 | Bounty | and the other structures would be connected to their hotkeys... warpgates come down and u press W.. pylons are E... Assimilators would be A... etc. Good idea? lol I dnt need credit for this idea but i do think it could be a great idea thats ideal for practice i mean.. theres micro tournaments and games like micromacro enhances micro skills and how much use u can get out of each type of unit... Tower Control maps made by Flurgenburg |
| 22:55.35 | Bounty | maintaining/fighting for vision over the map... Hotkeys are very important for melee players, especially if they want to get past silver league. I have practiced but I resort back to my style of no hotkeys to save myself during intense battles. I could use the experience.. |
| 22:55.45 | Iiris | omg, what the hell is with people an video guides |
| 22:56.05 | Iiris | really like if you want to make a video guide then provide a text guide also |
| 22:56.20 | Bounty | Somehow the only thing that guy got out of it was he expected it to be a training map for e sports |
| 22:56.22 | Iiris | stop with video only guides |
| 22:56.26 | Bounty | i would give anything to punch taht guy in the fucking face |
| 22:56.29 | Bounty | seriously |
| 22:57.03 | Bounty | oh and for ppl saying OMG ITS JUST MOVING A MARINE |
| 22:57.04 | Mexa_ | .-. |
| 22:57.06 | Bounty | it would have been multiplayer |
| 22:57.10 | Bounty | that would have been the entire point |
| 22:57.16 | Bounty | sabotaging players |
| 22:57.27 | Bounty | but honestly |
| 22:57.29 | Bounty | let someoen else make it |
| 22:57.31 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:57.42 | Bounty | that shit took forever |
| 22:58.30 | Mexa_ | Better spent on something else. |
| 22:58.39 | Mexa_ | Perhaps. |
| 22:59.24 | Mexa_ | I think I'll go back to bed. I somehow got all febrish and it hurts when I swallow :\ |
| 22:59.38 | Mexa_ | Bye folks! |
| 23:07.02 | Ahli | egod, here is a screen of the new view: http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4526/screenshot2012033001045.jpg |
| 23:07.26 | egod | its more close |
| 23:08.02 | Iiris | Ahli: models are kinda bad though |
| 23:08.20 | *** join/#sc2mapster Bounty (442ccc3b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.44.204.59) |
| 23:08.23 | SoulTaker916_ | hes low resolution? |
| 23:08.30 | Bounty | Nom Nom |
| 23:08.47 | Ahli | I'm on low models, yes... my laptop likes to get hot with 3D games |
| 23:09.06 | Sixen | Love it, Ahli :) |
| 23:09.28 | Bounty | Gaming on a laptop... so wierd |
| 23:09.36 | Ahli | I've a desktop, too |
| 23:09.48 | Bounty | I've one aswell |
| 23:09.56 | Ahli | but I'm not at my place. I'm at my parents, so laptop only |
| 23:11.26 | Ahli | the field of view with 4:3 is the area where the HUD on the bottom of the screen is. |
| 23:12.26 | Ahli | you just can't see all the way up to the map's boundaries with a widescreen. with 4:3 you can :S camera boundaries suck... |
| 23:12.31 | *** join/#sc2mapster Net_Creator (~Net_Creat@66.185.79.200) |
| 23:12.46 | Ahli | sixen, make Blizzard change camera boundaries ;D |
| 23:13.03 | Bounty | Ha |
| 23:13.18 | Sixen | :X |
| 23:13.25 | Sixen | brb! |
| 23:13.48 | Ahli | seriously, if we zoom in the camera, we need to throw the outer parts of the map in the trashcan... |
| 23:15.21 | *** join/#sc2mapster QueenG (18120ced@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.18.12.237) |
| 23:20.47 | Bounty | This is insane |
| 23:21.05 | Bounty | The wife and i get into an arguement about how you pronounce "Chipotle" atleast once a month |
| 23:21.17 | Bounty | She says "Chi-Polt-Lay |
| 23:21.33 | Bounty | I say Chi-Pot-Lay |
| 23:21.44 | egod | having a wife is so american |
| 23:21.47 | Bounty | apparently we're both wrong and she says i am more wrong than her |
| 23:22.01 | Bounty | but i say she fuckedup more |
| 23:22.07 | SoulTaker916_ | iu say |
| 23:22.08 | Bounty | bc she placed some imaginary fucking L |
| 23:22.15 | SoulTaker916_ | chit-potl-lay |
| 23:22.16 | SoulTaker916_ | XD |
| 23:22.17 | SoulTaker916_ | ahaha |
| 23:22.20 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 23:22.24 | Bounty | apparently |
| 23:22.25 | Bounty | its |
| 23:22.27 | Bounty | Chip |
| 23:22.29 | Bounty | ot |
| 23:22.30 | Bounty | lay |
| 23:22.44 | Bounty | how the fuck is she saying |
| 23:22.51 | Bounty | Chip-OLT-lay |
| 23:22.55 | Bounty | where the FUCK did that L come from |
| 23:22.55 | SoulTaker916_ | who cares? |
| 23:22.56 | Bounty | shes like |
| 23:22.58 | Bounty | its a silent L |
| 23:23.09 | Bounty | bc this is pissing me off |
| 23:23.13 | Bounty | this happens every month |
| 23:23.15 | Bounty | im not even kidding |
| 23:23.17 | Bounty | this same word |
| 23:23.18 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:24.10 | Ahli | maybe like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ1gfLKTIqE&feature=player_detailpage#t=9s |
| 23:24.35 | SoulTaker916_ | is he white...... |
| 23:24.37 | Ahli | at 13 s |
| 23:24.43 | SoulTaker916_ | theres no mexican dude there/// |
| 23:24.55 | SoulTaker916_ | its like tacobell |
| 23:29.55 | flyingspatula | ugh. so if my target distance is 3 and my pitch is 45 degrees up. to find the camera height would the target distance be my base or my hypotenuse of a triangue |
| 23:31.21 | Bounty | wow |
| 23:31.22 | flyingspatula | i suck at tan/cos/sin... if i have the angle and the hypotenuse |
| 23:31.26 | Bounty | he says it the same way she does |
| 23:31.29 | Bounty | but hes wrong |
| 23:31.47 | flyingspatula | did u know |
| 23:31.49 | flyingspatula | theres a taco drone |
| 23:31.59 | flyingspatula | that brings u tacos |
| 23:32.20 | flyingspatula | http://www.ksl.com/?sid=19748145&nid=1014&title=tacocopter-would-deliver-tacos-via-unmanned-drone&s_cid=featured-4 |
| 23:32.39 | Bounty | lol da fuck |
| 23:34.36 | Bounty | So, i'm no grammar expert but is it just me or does this games name make no sense? |
| 23:34.41 | Bounty | "Ridge Racer Unbounded" |
| 23:34.49 | flyingspatula | lololol |
| 23:34.53 | Iiris | so....... |
| 23:35.05 | Bounty | Is that even a word? |
| 23:35.08 | Bounty | "Unbounded" |
| 23:37.16 | Bounty | I summon JademusSreg |
| 23:37.20 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 23:37.23 | Bounty | I seek your wisdom on this |
| 23:37.32 | SoulTaker916_ | lolz.. |
| 23:37.34 | SoulTaker916_ | it worked |
| 23:37.34 | Bounty | look up |
| 23:37.36 | SoulTaker916_ | AHAHA |
| 23:37.36 | JademusSreg | chi-poht-lay |
| 23:37.41 | Bounty | yeah |
| 23:37.43 | Bounty | thats what i said |
| 23:37.57 | Bounty | the wife seems to think there is some sort of silent L |
| 23:37.59 | Bounty | before the T |
| 23:38.02 | Bounty | but regardless |
| 23:38.05 | Bounty | this new game out |
| 23:38.14 | Bounty | and its name bothers me, like i said im not grammar expert but |
| 23:38.24 | Bounty | its called "Ridge Racer Unbounded" |
| 23:38.25 | SoulTaker916_ | jade i got some weird trigger issue |
| 23:38.31 | SoulTaker916_ | and i never have issues with triggers... |
| 23:38.32 | Bounty | am i accurate jademussreg? |
| 23:38.40 | Bounty | or does the word Unbounded make no sense |
| 23:38.49 | JademusSreg | It's a spanish word. Even if there was an L, it would still be pronounced chi-poht-lay. |
| 23:39.02 | JademusSreg | What's the issue, Taker? |
| 23:39.10 | Bounty | ok well that wasnt the reason i summoned you |
| 23:39.24 | Bounty | the reaosn i summoned you is "Ridge Racer Unbounded" |
| 23:39.28 | SoulTaker916_ | ill get the code |
| 23:39.31 | Bounty | Unbounded |
| 23:39.35 | Bounty | makes ZERO sense to me |
| 23:39.37 | Bounty | is it even a word |
| 23:39.39 | Bounty | ? |
| 23:40.01 | SoulTaker916_ | Exiit stats Events Dialog - Any Dialog Item is used by Player Any Player with event type Any Local Variables Conditions (Used dialog item) == Hero dialog item[(Triggering player)][10] Actions Dialog - Hide Hero dialog[(Triggering player)][1] for (Player group((Triggering player))) Trigger - Run Update Main Menu Dialog (Check Conditions, Wait until it finishes) |
| 23:40.06 | SoulTaker916_ | wow 1 sec |
| 23:40.07 | Bounty | fail |
| 23:40.09 | SoulTaker916_ | let me clean that |
| 23:40.10 | Bounty | pastebn |
| 23:40.15 | Bounty | PASTEBIN.com |
| 23:40.16 | Iiris | is bored |
| 23:40.21 | JademusSreg | Adjective: Having or appearing to have no limits: "the possibilities are unbounded" |
| 23:40.31 | Bounty | you have 1 to many I's in your name |
| 23:40.34 | SoulTaker916_ | http://pastebin.com/7KTC39hV |
| 23:40.34 | Bounty | Iiris |
| 23:40.44 | SoulTaker916_ | i mean thats strait forward right? |
| 23:40.49 | Ahli | my online dictionary says that unbounded is a word. I would use "not limited" to translate it back to English |
| 23:40.53 | Bounty | How does that make any fucking sense Jade |
| 23:41.01 | Bounty | Thats the same thign that Unbound means |
| 23:41.16 | Vailreth | i hate this editor some times |
| 23:41.34 | SoulTaker916_ | wow vail |
| 23:41.38 | JademusSreg | Even if it is a superfluous word, it is a recognized word. |
| 23:41.39 | SoulTaker916_ | havent see u in... forever |
| 23:41.57 | Bounty | Vailreth? |
| 23:42.03 | Bounty | I have memories of that name |
| 23:42.06 | Iiris | ? |
| 23:42.09 | Bounty | From a long time ago |
| 23:42.16 | JademusSreg | Taker, what is the issue? |
| 23:45.39 | SoulTaker916_ | well |
| 23:45.40 | SoulTaker916_ | it works |
| 23:45.42 | SoulTaker916_ | for me |
| 23:45.43 | SoulTaker916_ | but not others |
| 23:45.49 | SoulTaker916_ | should be multiplayer |
| 23:45.58 | JademusSreg | How should it be working? |
| 23:46.07 | SoulTaker916_ | should work individualy |
| 23:46.18 | SoulTaker916_ | dialogs are specific to each player |
| 23:46.42 | Bounty | Make a player group array variable |
| 23:46.48 | Bounty | call it Player |
| 23:46.54 | SoulTaker916_ | i did... |
| 23:46.59 | SoulTaker916_ | well |
| 23:47.01 | Bounty | set the array # to the max number of players |
| 23:47.01 | SoulTaker916_ | it already made |
| 23:47.15 | Bounty | and then at map init add each player to their player group |
| 23:47.18 | JademusSreg | Why would you make a dialog for each player? =\ |
| 23:47.27 | SoulTaker916_ | its hero stats |
| 23:47.34 | SoulTaker916_ | each player has a hero to upgrade |
| 23:47.36 | SoulTaker916_ | and add skills |
| 23:47.40 | JademusSreg | But those are dialog items. |
| 23:47.48 | JademusSreg | Their properties are player instanced. |
| 23:47.58 | JademusSreg | Which means 1 label can display a different thing to each player. |
| 23:47.59 | SoulTaker916_ | yes |
| 23:48.02 | SoulTaker916_ | it doesnt close |
| 23:48.05 | SoulTaker916_ | i mean |
| 23:48.10 | SoulTaker916_ | it closes stats menu for me |
| 23:48.12 | SoulTaker916_ | but not for others |
| 23:48.18 | Bounty | just do what i just aid |
| 23:48.31 | Dustin | I missed a party?! |
| 23:48.38 | Bounty | add each player at map init to a player group called Player with an arrow of their player number |
| 23:48.48 | Bounty | with an array* |
| 23:49.05 | SoulTaker916_ | ya i need to trackt he triggering player |
| 23:49.11 | Bounty | yeah |
| 23:49.14 | SoulTaker916_ | its eayser to just do a 16 array |
| 23:49.14 | JademusSreg | That's silly, when you can use PlayerGroupActive and always have an updated playergroup, Bounty. |
| 23:49.18 | SoulTaker916_ | and do triggering player |
| 23:49.19 | Bounty | set the array in the trigger to do it to triggering player |
| 23:49.28 | Bounty | fuck it |
| 23:49.32 | Bounty | why do i even both |
| 23:49.33 | JademusSreg | Anyway, as for the problem. What do other players say happens? |
| 23:49.34 | Bounty | bother* |
| 23:49.35 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:49.40 | SoulTaker916_ | works for me |
| 23:49.44 | SoulTaker916_ | but not other players |
| 23:49.46 | SoulTaker916_ | it wont close |
| 23:49.51 | SoulTaker916_ | i can close it others cant |
| 23:49.54 | Bounty | Well im going to let Jade take this over |
| 23:49.56 | SoulTaker916_ | very irratating |
| 23:50.11 | Bounty | Apparently as usual my methods are silly >< |
| 23:50.13 | Bounty | as usual |
| 23:50.19 | Bounty | >< |
| 23:50.24 | SoulTaker916_ | its a simple fix |
| 23:50.24 | Bounty | thats two >< i did |
| 23:50.26 | SoulTaker916_ | that i cant see |
| 23:50.29 | Bounty | in two sentences |
| 23:50.31 | Bounty | let me see the code |
| 23:50.33 | Bounty | post it in pastebin |
| 23:50.37 | SoulTaker916_ | http://pastebin.com/7KTC39hV |
| 23:50.46 | SoulTaker916_ | technicaly |
| 23:50.48 | SoulTaker916_ | if it works for me |
| 23:50.51 | JademusSreg | Taker, is the array populated> |
| 23:50.51 | SoulTaker916_ | it should work for others |
| 23:50.53 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 23:50.59 | SoulTaker916_ | yes |
| 23:51.02 | SoulTaker916_ | it should be |
| 23:51.06 | JademusSreg | Show me. |
| 23:51.14 | SoulTaker916_ | u sure XD |
| 23:51.15 | Bounty | What is that second array number |
| 23:51.15 | SoulTaker916_ | ? |
| 23:51.18 | Bounty | the one after the player |
| 23:51.43 | SoulTaker916_ | its the submenu |
| 23:51.48 | Bounty | also what does that trigger do |
| 23:51.51 | Bounty | that you fire |
| 23:51.57 | SoulTaker916_ | closes stats menu |
| 23:52.02 | SoulTaker916_ | and opens main menu |
| 23:52.14 | SoulTaker916_ | http://pastebin.com/0gVC0uVw |
| 23:52.18 | SoulTaker916_ | this works |
| 23:52.26 | SoulTaker916_ | it populates for players and such |
| 23:52.53 | Bounty | hollly shit |
| 23:52.57 | Bounty | HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 23:52.58 | Bounty | LY |
| 23:53.00 | Bounty | SHIT |
| 23:53.09 | SoulTaker916_ | it works |
| 23:53.13 | SoulTaker916_ | it looks amazing 2 |
| 23:53.19 | Bounty | ok but |
| 23:53.20 | Bounty | still |
| 23:53.23 | Bounty | HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 23:53.24 | Bounty | LY |
| 23:53.26 | Bounty | SHIT |
| 23:53.26 | JademusSreg | Your trigger has a wait in it. |
| 23:53.29 | SoulTaker916_ | no way around it |
| 23:53.32 | SoulTaker916_ | theres laods ofd items |
| 23:53.36 | QueenG | holy hamburgers |
| 23:53.48 | SoulTaker916_ | i would have functioned it out but it not the sort of think that is fuctionable |
| 23:53.51 | Iiris | is soooooooooooooooo bored |
| 23:53.57 | Bounty | I could finish reading the Bible before i finished readin that trigger |
| 23:54.04 | JademusSreg | Iiris is Frostwind. |
| 23:54.09 | QueenG | come play NWW with me iiris |
| 23:54.14 | SoulTaker916_ | jade |
| 23:54.21 | Bounty | Iiris is Spy!!! |
| 23:54.23 | SoulTaker916_ | is it possible that the configuration |
| 23:54.33 | SoulTaker916_ | is opening 2 stat dialogs for players? |
| 23:54.34 | Iiris | I've never heard of that name |
| 23:54.35 | SoulTaker916_ | but not for me? |
| 23:54.37 | Bounty | what the hell is NWW |
| 23:54.42 | Iiris | this is my first time on irc |
| 23:55.13 | SoulTaker916_ | we noticed |
| 23:55.18 | SoulTaker916_ | atleast i did |
| 23:56.18 | JademusSreg | Perhaps. |
| 23:56.19 | Ahli | sleep is for noobs. I am a noob. bye and good night. |
| 23:56.22 | *** part/#sc2mapster Ahli (~asdaaaaa@p54875695.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:56.35 | QueenG | hehe |
| 23:56.42 | SoulTaker916_ | i mean i cant figure out why it would work for me |
| 23:56.45 | SoulTaker916_ | and no one else |
| 23:56.48 | JademusSreg | I was thinking that the array indexes were empty. |
| 23:56.50 | Iiris | well, so much for making my map. :( |
| 23:56.53 | SoulTaker916_ | *of course im player 1* |
| 23:57.03 | SoulTaker916_ | there should be emptie ones |
| 23:57.07 | JademusSreg | That would explain why the trigger isn't working. |
| 23:57.08 | SoulTaker916_ | but not when the close is available |
| 23:57.16 | Bounty | Its the way it is Iiris |
| 23:57.18 | JademusSreg | Iiris, patience. |
| 23:57.21 | Bounty | no true help |
| 23:57.22 | Bounty | >< |
| 23:57.33 | Bounty | If someone tries to help, they cannot explain it to you in a way you understand |
| 23:57.37 | SoulTaker916_ | 07Iiris01, baby steps |
| 23:57.47 | Bounty | The only way to learn is on your own |
| 23:57.52 | Iiris | I come in here seeking one little thing only to not get it |
| 23:58.08 | Bounty | Well then let me be first the to say |
| 23:58.10 | Bounty | Welcome! |
| 23:58.18 | Iiris | and no guides on how to do said thing |
| 23:58.19 | Bounty | be the first* |
| 23:58.20 | Iiris | :( |
| 23:58.59 | SoulTaker916_ | oh... |
| 23:59.02 | JademusSreg | Yep. It's Frostwind. |
| 23:59.04 | SoulTaker916_ | maybe i was right? |
| 23:59.09 | SoulTaker916_ | frostwind? |
| 23:59.10 | JademusSreg | Found a match in the logs. |
