IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20120323

00:01.51DustinThat might be the best bet :P
00:02.47DustinAnd it sucks cause all I need to do move his arms to look like they are carrying a gun and give him an attack animation and gun reference
00:12.24AlphA_VsTlol
00:12.36AlphA_VsTyeah but the nin tool fails :P
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00:40.32BountyHay Guyz
00:47.13Dustinhai
00:47.19JademusSregPew.
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00:49.46BountySo Jade, not even close to Page 2
00:49.52Bountytold ya :)
00:50.02JademusSregHas it been a few months already?
00:50.07Bountyyep
00:50.23JademusSregCrazy. Seems like just yesterday you were making it.
00:50.24________________nty
00:50.32JademusSregThey grow up so fast.
00:50.37________________^
00:50.38BountyThey do
00:50.53BountyTime goes by so fast when you're map isnt being played
00:50.57Bountylolol
00:51.20________________advertise nublet
00:51.26Bountylol?
00:51.35Bountyhttp://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/project-workplace/34117-release-ling-ling-rocket-remastered-edition/
00:51.42Bountyhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=321348
00:51.51Bountyhttp://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/4216981720
00:51.53________________oh i thot u meant trifaction II
00:51.57Bountyand its on mapster front page
00:51.59JademusSregHaha
00:52.07Bountytrifaction 2?
00:52.10Bountyda fuck
00:52.12Bountylol
00:52.18________________ling ling isnt a game that seems like it'd be played for hours on end
00:52.32Bountyapparently it is
00:52.39________________is not*
00:52.40Bountybc im  getting requests to not let the game end
00:52.43________________since its not on page
00:52.43________________1
00:52.53Bounty....
00:52.59Bountyso, because its not on page 1...
00:53.10Bountyit cant be played for hours
00:53.13________________oh i 4got u are literalman
00:53.13Bountysilly goose
00:53.16________________my bad
00:53.30________________what page are you on
00:53.33Bountywell i mean how else can someone take that over the interwebs
00:53.36Bountywho knows
00:53.37________________rather, how many hours are on it
00:53.54Bounty17+
00:54.22________________ive actually stopped caring, sorry
00:54.29Bountyok?
01:28.59Dustinhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXrvUZBvxkU
01:29.08DustinI loved that map
01:29.47DustinI wonder if I could just slow down the gameplay to downplay the lag and increase stratigey to compensate
01:33.45JademusSreg"Error margins" =D
01:33.54DustinThere we go
01:34.11JademusSregI'd like to see more maps like that.
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01:38.07Dustinoh shit
01:38.10Dustinit still works lol
01:38.10Dustinnice
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02:07.48DustinThe way I had to do this projectile system is so gheto rigged
02:07.56JademusSregHah.
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03:21.26CurrydevilHmm, i'm setting my region var but i'm getting this error when I try to generate my terrain now.
03:21.28Currydevilhttp://i.imgur.com/iOn43.png
03:21.31Currydeviloops
03:21.33Currydevilnot that
03:21.42Currydevil00:00:06.13 Trigger Error in 'gt_Test_Func': Could not get 'region' from parameter in 'RegionGetCenter' (value: 0)
03:21.42Currydevil00:00:06.13 Trigger Error in 'gt_Test_Func': Could not get 'p' from parameter in 'PointGetY' (value: 65535)
03:24.28Currydeviloh nvm
03:24.32Currydevili'm so dumb sometimes.
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03:56.11AlphA_VsTlol
03:56.55QueenG?
03:57.09CurrydevilHe's lol'ing at my dumbness
03:57.44AlphA_VsTyes
03:58.11QueenGoh i just had Japanese Curry today, it was delicious,
03:58.46Currydevilfun fun
03:59.28Currydevilhttp://i.imgur.com/cvtud.png I like it. Simple, yet extremely gratifying.
04:00.01AlphA_VsTlol
04:00.11Currydevilthere's a red one too.
04:00.16CurrydevilOoooOoOoOoOOoOoo
04:00.18AlphA_VsTred what?
04:00.28Currydevilred splash on the ground too
04:00.31Currydevillike that green one.
04:00.41AlphA_VsTyou mean light?
04:00.56Currydevilno.
04:00.59CurrydevilIt's not light.
04:01.04Currydevilthough I could have done light.
04:01.09AlphA_VsTwhy the fuck is my ability not showing up
04:01.10CurrydevilBut I like this way
04:01.16CurrydevilBecause it's borked?
04:01.42AlphA_VsTits kinda hard to tell a unit to do soemthing when it doesnt show up when you order it to do it
04:02.09CurrydevilLike telling a mute to sing?
04:08.30AlphA_VsTno
04:08.37AlphA_VsTits not on the fucking list
04:09.38AlphA_VsTkinda pissin me off :D
04:14.03AlphA_VsThmm
04:14.11AlphA_VsTit didnt have a default button :D
04:14.20AlphA_VsTgood to know hahahahha
04:14.20Currydevillol
04:14.55AlphA_VsTupdates and more updates
04:15.10AlphA_VsTI should get a button person to do all my buttons :P
04:15.19AlphA_VsTmake them nice :P
04:15.27AlphA_VsTI don't haev time for that crap :P
04:16.07CurrydevilHah. Well, i don't do buttons.
04:18.11AlphA_VsT:D
04:18.15AlphA_VsTand modeler
04:18.24AlphA_VsTI might look for people soonish :P
04:18.40AlphA_VsTmaybe a data person lol
04:18.54AlphA_VsTfucking hate data :p
04:18.55CurrydevilI don't know why the texture wasn't working on the default cube model
04:19.00CurrydevilI'm decent with data.
04:19.07AlphA_VsTi'm alright :P
04:19.16CurrydevilSo I think i might just have to make my own models from here on
04:19.23CurrydevilAnyways, when you made that test model
04:19.35AlphA_VsTit was a long time ago :D
04:19.41Currydevildid it add the texture as Point_diffuse.dds as default?
04:19.46AlphA_VsTno
04:19.53AlphA_VsTi did that lol
04:19.55Currydevilok
04:19.59Currydeviler tga
04:20.04AlphA_VsTrandom texture i gave it :p
04:20.17Currydevilok, but that's all you did was make the cube and threw a random texture on it?
04:20.24AlphA_VsTyeah lol
04:20.26Currydevilok
04:20.46AlphA_VsTmade sure it was the right size also :P
04:21.02CurrydevilSo, i've changed up my map. I need to make a pathing checker now =O
04:21.10AlphA_VsTHAHAHA!
04:21.18AlphA_VsTwtf are you doing anyways
04:21.21CurrydevilBut this one is easier to accomplish.
04:21.31AlphA_VsTim sure
04:21.36CurrydevilI'll tell ya later when I have more done.
04:21.44AlphA_VsT?
04:21.55Currydevilit's a secwet right now.
04:21.56AlphA_VsTbecause someone will steal it? :p
04:21.59Currydevilno
04:22.05AlphA_VsTno one gives a fuck :P
04:22.11Currydevillol, sadly I know this.
04:22.19CurrydevilI'll prob be the only one to play it like you are for yours =P
04:22.55AlphA_VsTit will be played :P
04:22.59AlphA_VsTwhen im ready for it to be
04:23.30Currydevilfrom what I tested earlier, pathing checks to see if something is blocked only work with pathing cost from unit -> point yes? Cuz point -> point only tells you how far away they are
04:26.20AlphA_VsTi have no idea :D
04:29.29AlphA_VsTI might have this :P
04:29.44________________Trigger A creates a unit and stores it in a variable and runs Trigger B. Trigger B does certain actions based off of the Variable from A. If A runs twice before B finishes running once, will the actions be affected since it's values arebased off of the variable that A modifies every time it runs?
04:29.47________________Yes right?
04:30.27CurrydevilDepends.
04:30.34________________?
04:31.03CurrydevilHmmm
04:31.09CurrydevilI have to rethink what I was going to say lol
04:31.15________________lol take ur time
04:31.17CurrydevilI would say no
04:31.22________________orly?
04:31.36CurrydevilIt would depend on how you are putting the var from A into B
04:31.45________________its a global var
04:32.01Currydevillike, you can put a local var in B to store the value from A's global and that way it will only change the next time B runs
04:32.02AlphA_VsTif you set a twice before b runs
04:32.11AlphA_VsTit will use the last set variable
04:32.16________________ok, i figured
04:32.24________________ya curry thats what im doing now to avoid the var change
04:32.27________________i just wanted to be sure
04:32.31________________b4 i added useless code
04:33.08________________ty
04:33.10Currydevilbut if A finishes sometime in the middle of B running, it should still only be using the first set of A
04:33.11AlphA_VsTlol
04:33.19AlphA_VsTyeah
04:33.55________________just needed to know because its possible for A to run back to back with no trigger cycles in btwn
04:34.00________________and i didnt want things to get screwy
04:34.03Currydevilah
04:36.12QueenG;( nobody in the sc2mapster channel in NA. I bet theres lots on the EU region
04:38.45________________boo, i just remembered that the second trigger uses a function that wont be able to use the local variable of B... w/e lol... ill just have to do "wait until trigger finishes"
04:39.16Currydevilyou can't pass the local to the function?
04:39.23________________how would i do that
04:39.43Currydevilare you already passing the global to the function?
04:40.01________________ah, gotcha
04:40.04________________ium dumb
04:40.04________________lol
04:40.09Currydevil=O
04:40.17________________sumtimes my brain reguses to think
04:40.18________________refuses*
04:41.15________________OH, thats why I didn't do it that way
04:41.20________________lol cuz the function isnt called immediately
04:41.29________________so the varible could change b4 the function is used
04:41.38________________but its cool, waiting for the trigger to finish is ok
04:42.15AlphA_VsTlol
04:42.45AlphA_VsTuse a paramater to pass the local variable to the function 0.o
04:42.50AlphA_VsTsilly
04:43.50________________gah, stop being so clever
04:44.00________________i was satisfied with my half assed solution]
04:44.01________________>.<
04:44.08________________*times to fix*
04:44.41AlphA_VsTlol
04:44.54AlphA_VsTits so obvious though
04:45.11AlphA_VsTmaybe cause my map I do it constantly :P
04:45.12________________my mind was past it
04:45.39AlphA_VsTmy functions can be confusing :P
04:45.55________________lol
04:45.56AlphA_VsTin that things link to each other like mad
04:45.59________________comment everything ;)
04:46.26AlphA_VsTlol
04:46.58AlphA_VsTThink I might have got the basic bomb drop ability done 0.o
04:47.03AlphA_VsTafter 2 days :P
04:47.06AlphA_VsTlol
04:47.36________________lol
04:47.38________________bomb drop?
04:47.41________________like bomberman?
04:48.09AlphA_VsTor not
04:48.10AlphA_VsTlol
04:48.11AlphA_VsTfuck
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04:48.27AlphA_VsTi casted it
04:48.39AlphA_VsTand my fucking drop ship fell otu of the sky 0.o
04:48.40AlphA_VsTwtf
04:48.50________________lolol
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04:49.28CurryMeh, hit the restart button with a box.
04:50.08________________lol
04:50.10________________ouch
04:50.39AlphA_VsTwtf
04:51.03________________alpha how many global vars do your maps average?
04:51.16________________1-2, 50-60, 100-200?
04:52.17AlphA_VsTmy map has...
04:53.56AlphA_VsT280
04:54.01AlphA_VsTso far
04:54.11________________mmk good
04:54.18AlphA_VsTwhy/
04:54.19AlphA_VsT?
04:54.19________________i figured i was being too stingy with global variables
04:54.28________________i didnt want 2 make them if i didnt need to
04:54.37________________but then i felt like i was just being rediculous
04:54.42Currylol
04:54.56________________i still have < 30 bcuz I did so many other solutions that avoided globals
04:55.49AlphA_VsTmy map needs globals mostly stored in records
04:55.57________________ofc... thats how most ppl do it
04:56.07________________did u release a non alpha yet?
04:57.07________________hey jades, what was that map called that that one guy wanted you to play yesterday
04:57.12________________the one that was like heavy rain
04:57.39AlphA_VsToh i lied 0.o i actually counted its 160ish :P
04:57.47________________mmk
04:57.55AlphA_VsTstill :P
04:58.14________________stupid blizzard not counting a map as "played" if you quit in < 5 minutes
04:58.23________________cant even find the map i wanted to check out
04:59.59AlphA_VsTlol
05:00.03AlphA_VsTof course not
05:00.13AlphA_VsTso if your map only lasts 3 min :D
05:00.24AlphA_VsTfucking screwed :P
05:01.49AlphA_VsTi forgot to copy over the ammo unti :D
05:01.50AlphA_VsTops
05:01.55AlphA_VsTsilyl me
05:05.59________________D:
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05:10.22JademusSreg=D
05:10.58JademusSregBatomys was testing a map called Argo.
05:11.01JademusSregiirc
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05:11.22________________argo, mmk ty
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05:11.52JademusSregThe full name string may have been ARGO_TEST_3.
05:13.03________________when pick pick a [Number] unit from a unit group, does it start at 0 or 1?
05:13.21________________like, would i use the 0th unit or 1st unit?
05:13.30________________for the one foremost in the group
05:13.30JademusSregUnitgroup and playergroup are one-indexed.
05:13.38________________o mk
05:13.43________________ty
05:14.01________________then this event is screwy and i gotta figure out why
05:14.01________________D:
05:14.04________________*tests*
05:15.16JademusSregAs far as "being too stingy with global variables" goes, you can have 518924 variables before you exceed the global variable memory limit.
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05:16.19________________well, i figured i wouldnt hit the limit... but i didnt wanna code sloppy and use 12983721983712893 g vars just cuz im lazy
05:16.34JademusSregHah.
05:17.32JademusSregYes, I imagine code would have to be pretty inefficient to hit that limit.
05:17.39________________lol
05:18.57________________wtf
05:19.00________________<PROTECTED>
05:19.11________________this trigger is being a whore and going even when there are no spire units
05:19.30JademusSregMy Input script uses ~4KiB of gv memory, last time I checked. Perhaps I should move that to the data table...
05:19.54________________i use a combo of dTable and g vars, whichever is more convienent
05:19.54JademusSregThat's the event?
05:19.59________________ya thats the event
05:20.43JademusSregYou're passing a null unit the to unit argument.
05:20.50________________??
05:20.54JademusSreg*unitref
05:21.06________________so since there are no spire units its just counting it as null?
05:21.14AlphA_VsTsure
05:21.22________________thats dumb
05:21.23JademusSregI'm saying that approach to the event is wrong.
05:21.27________________oh
05:21.28JademusSregI'll explain why.
05:21.30AlphA_VsTthat also :P
05:21.32________________k
05:21.58JademusSregThe event is registered from the main thread before map init.
05:22.18JademusSregSo if the unit isn't preplaced, there is no unit in the unitgroup, so it passes null.
05:22.36JademusSregBut even then, it would only work for that unit.
05:22.38________________well, its not triggering that early, but i get what you mean
05:23.00JademusSregYou should use Any Unit unitref, and use a condition to check the unit type.
05:23.12________________i had that first, but i wanted to avoid the condition
05:23.18________________so the event never past
05:23.20________________passed*
05:23.30________________but i gues ill leave it
05:23.47JademusSregSince it takes a unitref argument and not a unit type string argument, that can't be done.
05:24.19________________D:
05:24.32________________good thing i keptthe old code
05:24.33JademusSregBut I have a question.
05:24.44________________?
05:24.55JademusSregDo you have a lot of triggers that are intended to run on construction completion?
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05:25.05________________nah just that 1
05:25.07________________maybe 1 other 1
05:25.08________________why?
05:25.23JademusSregBecause I was going to suggest a way to prevent a ton of threads from firing at once.
05:25.35________________which would be
05:26.03AlphA_VsTgoodnight like
05:26.19JademusSregIt's an approach I use in something else I have a hand in, so to speak. You use a centralized Event Handler trigger.
05:27.09________________o
05:27.21JademusSregSo only one thread is created for the event, and it goes through either an array of triggers or a statically defined list, and Evaluates the conditions and, if true, runs the trigger without creating a new thread.
05:27.43________________gotcha
05:28.16JademusSregOf course, that's not what I would call optimal, but it's good enough for GUI.
05:28.56________________lol y didnt u just make a solution that was efficient rather than just catered to gui
05:29.00________________most efficient*
05:29.50JademusSregBecause the solution wasn't for my project.
05:30.08JademusSregRather, it's for a project with which I am involved.
05:30.34________________icic
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05:36.20________________is there no difference btw creep tumor and its burrowed counterpart?
05:37.19JademusSregBesides having an ability charge to spawn a new one?
05:37.37JademusSregI didn't pay much attention to them.
05:37.57________________they both have it
05:39.26JademusSregWhen differences aren't apparent, I compare XML.
05:39.47JademusSregMore difficult to overlook differences in that format.
05:40.27________________true
06:06.43CurrydevilHate when my triggers don't work =O
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06:16.10DustinI never have that problem, I have problems with Data not working :(
06:25.51Currydevileh data is easy =O
06:29.22JademusSregApparent difficulty is relative to one's understanding of the subject, so you're kind of both right, relative to your respective proficiencies.
06:29.31JademusSreg=D
06:30.09CurrydevilIndeed. I just locked up SC2 with an endless loop. Hah.
06:30.14CurrydevilSilly pathing cost checks.
06:30.35CurrydevilOh the power of > vs ==
06:37.06CurrydevilHrm
06:37.08Currydevilso
06:37.23CurrydevilI'm using the wrong pathing cost check
06:37.27Currydevilagain -.-
06:37.29JademusSregSomeone check their battlenet account, and tell me what clients are available under Starcraft II.
06:37.31JademusSreg=D
06:43.28Currydevilhmm, apparently buildings blocking pathing don't count towards "points connected by ground pathing == false" heh.
06:43.39Currydevilso it counts the pathing no matter what building/unit is in the way
06:44.14CurrydevilI checked it before where it returned -1 if a unit couldn't reach a point, but now I can't seem to find what I used
06:51.52Currydevilfound it.
07:00.44CurrydevilHidden units still work in triggers yes? Say if i'm checking the pathing cost from said hidden unit to point?
07:00.55JademusSregYes.
07:00.59Currydevilcool
07:01.10CurrydevilCan't have rogue scientists running amuck now.
07:02.29________________what about rugae scientists?
07:02.36________________can they run mucks?
07:02.47CurrydevilSure, if I encounter some.
07:02.53________________woot
07:02.56CurrydevilI'll give em all the mucks they want
07:02.56________________^^
07:03.01________________well then
07:03.06________________*finds said scientists*
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11:57.49equinox1911hihi
12:05.23Kuekenwhats so funny?
12:08.02RipperRooYour name
12:08.07RipperRooKueken.. hihi
12:08.30Kuekenif he is swedish, maybe ;)
12:10.04RipperRoojag är svenska :)
12:14.45Jum-Jumyou just said you're the swedish language
12:15.12Kuekengood to know
12:15.32Kuekenso what about we all talk in RipperRoo now
12:16.22RipperRoojum jum stfu :D man .. why did u reveal that ?!
12:16.39RipperRooJag är Svensk.
12:16.39RipperRoo:P
12:16.52RipperRooi know just a bit swedish man :(
12:17.35KuekenI know one word
12:17.44RipperRoo?
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12:17.49Kuekenand thats a little... inappropriate
12:17.54Jum-Jumits svensk not Svensk
12:17.54Jum-Jum:D
12:18.00RipperRoodamnit :D
12:18.06RipperRoojag pluggar svenska :D
12:18.19RipperRoobut only a bit via internet so its bad :)
12:18.32Jum-Jumah
12:18.38Jum-Jumits a difficult language i've heard
12:18.48ThePhailOh hi :D
12:18.51Jum-Jumgot a friend from england here and hes getting pretty good at it, been here for 2-3 years
12:18.55RipperRoonah not much.. its pretty much a mix of german and english.. so i have no problems :D
12:19.03Jum-JumI can talk swedish to him and he'll talk back in english :D
12:19.10RipperRoolol
12:19.28ThePhailI can speak danish ! Almost the same as Swedish :D
12:19.35RipperRoopronounciation is horror
12:19.47Jum-JumI don't understand danish very well :(
12:19.50ThePhailSwedish or Danish?
12:19.53RipperRoowe germans have problems to pronounce words ending on a or ar differently :D
12:20.05RipperRooswedish dunno about the danish
12:20.08Jum-JumI can talk to norwegions tho, because I've played with them quite a lot lately
12:20.22ThePhailActually. i think it would be more right to say that i can speak english. im from denmark and currently in denmark
12:20.24RipperRoohur mår du ? :)
12:20.30Jum-JumI tend to forget and just talk normally and they dont understand a thing :8
12:20.43ThePhailAlso, Danish has the most horrible accent
12:20.45ThePhailwhen we speak english
12:20.55Jum-Jumno french has
12:21.02ThePhailNo
12:21.03Jum-Jumonly ladies are allowed to speak french
12:21.04ThePhailDanish
12:21.05ThePhail2 sec...
12:21.07ThePhailfinding a video
12:21.09RipperRoolothar matthäus has ^^
12:21.11Jum-Jumbecause when males do it they sound so... dumb
12:21.47Jum-Jumhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mOy8VUEBk
12:21.51Jum-JumThis is danish for us :D
12:22.21ThePhailLOL
12:22.41ThePhailI really hate my country
12:22.45Jum-Jumlol
12:22.50Jum-Jumdont worry its so tiny nobody notices it!
12:23.02ThePhailLol
12:23.15RipperRoo:>
12:23.15ThePhailhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERW9hq9QKSM thats one of the guys known to be horrible
12:23.22ThePhaileveryone makes fun of him
12:23.38ThePhailbut the truth is, almost every dane speaks like that when they try to actually speak english
12:23.57RipperRoohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH55rwgx1nY i win ? ;)
12:24.51ThePhailI can atleast understand what he says
12:25.16ThePhailOkay he is horrible aswel
12:25.18ThePhaili got some of it :P
12:26.29Jum-Jumthat what most swedes sound like aswell
12:26.47Jum-JumI dont find myself that great at the english language when I speak it but... then I listen to my fellow countrymen and oh lordy lordy :D
12:26.48ThePhailNo
12:26.54Jum-JumOne two... tree... :D
12:27.05Jum-Jumthink is always tink, sounds so dumb
12:27.06ThePhailOh i hate when people do that
12:27.15ThePhailbut i also hate when people correct others who say it like that
12:27.19ThePhailits just a waste of timke
12:27.21ThePhailtime
12:28.47Jum-Jumgot a friend from norway who speaks english great, but he always says tree instead of three
12:28.54Jum-Jumhas to be something from when he was young and never got it right haha
12:29.01ThePhailAnyyyyways. im going back to my dubstep and map making :3
12:29.04ThePhailAnd drum and bass
12:31.15ThePhailthat doesnt mean you guys have to stop talking
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14:34.51Kuekensomeone knows a model with 6 attachment points arranged in a circle? ;)
14:35.17RipperRooXa baneblade :S
14:37.02Kuekenaw, that model is already in sc2?
14:37.11Kuekendamn, why do I try to create one then?
14:48.48RipperRooXDunno :D
14:50.47Kuekennvm, got a better idea ;)
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15:37.35BountyHay Guyz
15:37.36flyingspatula... why does terrain always flicker nonstop. so annoying
15:37.45flyingspatulaoh hey bout
15:39.15AlphA_VsTidono its a grpahic thing 0.o
15:39.22flyingspatulaso it does it for every1 huh
15:39.29flyingspatulai swear i seen videos on utube where it doesnt do it
15:39.34AlphA_VsTyeah it got worse
15:39.44AlphA_VsTlike 2 years ago that shit didnt happen
15:39.50flyingspatulasigh
15:40.00flyingspatulaits 100x worse in third person view
15:40.15AlphA_VsTbut its fine in game
15:40.20flyingspatulaweird
15:40.20BountyI wonder if trailers help a maps popularity
15:40.21flyingspatulafor me its
15:40.24flyingspatulahorrible in game
15:40.27BountyLike if the trailer is crazy epic/awesome
15:40.27AlphA_VsTreally?
15:40.36flyingspatulapossibly bounty lol
15:40.42flyingspatulayeah in game the ground flickers so bad
15:40.45AlphA_VsTyeah possibly bounty
15:40.45flyingspatulaits almost pixelating
15:40.46flyingspatulaas i move
15:40.51flyingspatulahurts my eyes
15:40.55AlphA_VsTit might be your grpahics card :D
15:41.00Bountyyeah seriously
15:41.03flyingspatulafuck
15:41.04flyingspatulabut
15:41.04Bountywhat the fuck are you talking about spatula
15:41.06Bountylol
15:41.09flyingspatulaive
15:41.10Bountyflickering?
15:41.14flyingspatulahad same problem with 2 different graphix cards
15:41.17flyingspatulalike
15:41.24flyingspatulaits just the details on grass/dirt everything
15:41.25flyingspatulaflicker
15:41.31Bounty...
15:41.33flyingspatulalike their pixelating as i move
15:41.35Bountythat makes no sense
15:41.36flyingspatulaliek static
15:41.45Bountyuh
15:41.48flyingspatulashould i make a quick vid?
15:41.51Bountythat sounds like your monitor
15:41.55flyingspatulahm
15:41.59Bountymaybe ur monitor just has really huge ass pixels
15:42.00flyingspatulabut ive never had problem with other games
15:42.04flyingspatulalol
15:42.06Bountyand ur rrunning at a shitty resolution
15:42.06AlphA_VsTwhen I edit terrain it gets all fucked up :P
15:42.17flyingspatulawell im 1080p
15:42.18flyingspatulai run
15:42.24flyingspatulalike this monitor was 400 bucks
15:42.26Bountywhat size monitor
15:42.29flyingspatulafor graphic design editing
15:42.33flyingspatula24"
15:42.37Bountyok well
15:42.39Bountyi dont know then
15:42.41flyingspatulalol
15:42.42Bountyur fucked bro
15:42.45Bountylol
15:42.46flyingspatulayeah the problem just
15:42.51flyingspatulai have no idea if it was just me
15:43.03flyingspatulalemme make vid, i may be exaggerating its effect but its just annoying
15:43.23AlphA_VsTlol
15:43.56Bounty*slams 20 on the table*
15:44.01BountyI bet you we dont see shit Alpha
15:44.14BountyDIS NIGGAS CWAZY
15:44.32flyingspatulalmao
15:45.43Bountylol wtf
15:45.53Bounty1. a. a derogatory name for a Black person  b. ( as modifier ): nigger minstrels
15:45.58flyingspatulaok had ot make some retarded map to show it.
15:46.01flyingspatulaupladoing now
15:46.05Bountynigger minstrels?
15:46.05flyingspatulalol iutneresting fact bounty
15:46.17AlphA_VsTbounty....
15:46.25AlphA_VsTso offensive :P
15:46.36Bountyits in the fuction dictionary
15:46.41Bountyi just found that one part wierd
15:47.00Bountyfuckin*
15:47.02Bountywow
15:47.06Bountyi typed fuction instead of fuckin
15:47.34flyingspatulamy third perosn camera is also being a bitch whe ni test it on bnet its so fucking choppy. even unedited camera. just the *follow unitgrp* camera is horrible online for me
15:47.52Bountywell you're doing something wrong
15:47.56flyingspatulaindeed
15:47.59flyingspatulano idea what
15:48.00Bountybc thats what i use and i have no choppness
15:48.03Bounty><
15:48.05flyingspatulai didnt have this problem before
15:48.16AlphA_VsTlol
15:48.29flyingspatularuns fine until bnet
15:48.35AlphA_VsT0.o
15:48.37flyingspatulathat and the pixelating ground makes me rage
15:49.19flyingspatulait only pixelates after like
15:49.22flyingspatula20 feet
15:49.33AlphA_VsT0.o
15:49.41flyingspatulauploading vid now
15:49.45AlphA_VsTupdate your graphics card?
15:49.52flyingspatulau only notice the pixels if u were to make the screen fullscreen
15:50.04flyingspatulayeah its not my grpahics card since I put in my ati card and tested too
15:50.21flyingspatulaits basically the editor pixelating
15:50.33flyingspatulalooks like it
15:50.34flyingspatulajus tlike it*
15:50.41AlphA_VsTbut it shouldn't happen in game
15:50.46flyingspatulayeah
15:50.56flyingspatulabut im also in a third person view tho
15:51.01flyingspatulabut bounty says it doesnt do it
15:51.05flyingspatulaAND HE MUST BE RIGHT
15:53.23flyingspatulathe camera choppiness only happens on BNET its so weird. ill have 60fps yet its like the camera just keeps getting stuck for a split second constantly for no reason
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15:53.50MasterReYanyone wants to play my 1v1 micro map? :)
15:54.00AlphA_VsTno
15:54.04Bountynope
15:54.08MasterReYaww
15:54.09MasterReY:P
15:54.14Bountywrong chat bro
15:54.15flyingspatulaGRATS ON FRON TPAGE BOUNTY
15:54.17flyingspatulaeven tho that wa slike
15:54.19flyingspatulalast week
15:54.28Bountyu can find plenty of people on bnet that will play a micro map
15:54.36Bountyda fuck r u talking about flyingspatula
15:54.40AlphA_VsTidono
15:54.43flyingspatulaur map
15:54.45flyingspatulaon sc2 page
15:54.46AlphA_VsThes trying to insult you
15:54.47flyingspatulamaspter
15:54.49Bountyoh
15:54.51Bountyuh
15:54.52Bountythanks?
15:54.55flyingspatulalol
15:54.57flyingspatulawhat
15:55.02flyingspatulau were all talking abotu it
15:55.08flyingspatulacept he didnt put it there on weekend
15:55.09Bountyi could make a map that was a bunch of flying zerglings circling a pile of shit
15:55.12Bountyand it would eventually be newsed
15:55.16flyingspatulalolol
15:55.30BountyI used to think like you
15:55.30Bountylol
15:55.37Bountythen i realized... everything gets newsed
15:55.46Bountystill a good thing though
15:55.52Bountybut its just not that big of a deal ><
15:55.53flyingspatulai saw a map the other day on sc2 some guy made zerglings jump up thru the air attach to ur face and proceed to bite ur head until u die
15:56.09flyingspatulalol i was being half sarcastic
15:56.10Bountyand i bet tahts all he has made
15:56.16Bounty><
15:56.19flyingspatulahah maybe XD
15:57.05flyingspatulahey bounty.alpha can u both go to this utube link in like 5 mins? i gotta go for a few hours but i really need to know if this happens for everyone or jus tme
15:57.14flyingspatulaull have to fulslcreen the vid to see thepixelating
15:57.27flyingspatulahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k53wDADA1Ds&feature=youtu.be     video isnt done uploading yet
15:57.29Bountyi wanna just make a boss fight where you fight a more than competent AI controlled Robot and during the fight More Human than Human plays
15:57.31Bountylolol
15:57.58flyingspatulalol
15:58.07flyingspatulathe boss fight in that sc universe seem sinteresting
15:58.21Bountythats just 1
15:58.27Bountythey need that for ALL of them
15:58.29Bountylol
15:58.34flyingspatulalmao
15:58.50Bountyfor all we know that could be the only cool boss in the game
16:00.20flyingspatulayeah
16:04.09flyingspatulaok gtg, but heres the vid. ignore the crappiness. just mape random shit so u can see pixelation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k53wDADA1Ds&feature=youtu.be
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16:08.09AlphA_VsTthis almsot works :D
16:08.28AlphA_VsTthe angle is all wrong :(
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16:14.49AlphA_VsTwell I got the angle right :D
16:14.54AlphA_VsTnow its backwards :D
16:15.32AlphA_VsTjsut reveaser it yes good idea
16:16.05AlphA_VsTalso that video he linked...
16:16.08AlphA_VsTi see nothing wrong
16:20.23AlphA_VsTPERFECT!
16:20.39AlphA_VsTno i can do a little update lol
16:28.50BountyHow is Ling Lings popularity Xaragoth lol
16:29.05BountyI estimate somewhere around the 0 mark?
16:30.00Xaragoth1h
16:30.06XaragothThat's half a green bar!
16:30.24Bountylol
16:30.40Bountywell i have a new update but im gonna wait to send it over
16:30.47Bountyto make sure its bug free
16:31.03Bountywhich means it will likely never be sent
16:31.15Bountybecause i can get nobody to test it lol
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16:37.22AlphA_VsTlol what bounty?
16:37.36Bounty?
16:37.40AlphA_VsTno one will test it?
16:37.45Bountynope
16:37.50Bountyi need a 4 player game
16:38.18AlphA_VsT:(
16:38.45Bountyits ok
16:39.04Bountyaccording to JademusSreg the map will be insanely popular in a couple months so ill have no problem getting testers
16:39.06Bounty><
16:42.01AlphA_VsTover night success isnt over night :p
16:42.24AlphA_VsTI think I am going to start finding people to do work for me :P
16:42.32AlphA_VsTI have to much to do :p
16:42.33Bountylol
16:42.48BountyThere is a map i've always wanted to make though
16:42.54AlphA_VsTwhat map?
16:42.55BountyJust not sure if i could
16:43.05BountyWell its a music game sort of
16:43.07Bountybut not really
16:43.16AlphA_VsTmusic game could be popular :P
16:43.21BountyEach song has a boss that goes with it
16:43.34Bountyand the boss fight goes along with the music and you have until the end of the song to beat him
16:43.45AlphA_VsTlol
16:44.09BountySounds cool right?
16:44.44AlphA_VsTsure :p
16:45.03Bountyi sense you disagree
16:45.04Bounty><
16:48.41AlphA_VsTno not really
16:48.54XaragothI sense a disturbance in the force, as if thousands of nerds cried out in pain and were suddenly silence.
16:49.06Bountyi mean i think i have more ideas for music games than anything
16:49.10Xaragothaka another day of MW3 the butthurt children edition
16:49.19Bountynone of which are rhythm games
16:49.19AlphA_VsTI feel stuck on my map I just have so much to do :P
16:50.08AlphA_VsTI think I will try to find people :P
16:50.25BountyMy issue is
16:50.34BountyHow would Blizzard feel about REAL music in maps
16:50.38Xaragothyour map has no bling bling
16:50.40BountyThats the question
16:50.44Xaragothwhich is the problem
16:50.48Xaragothbling bling makes for good trailers
16:50.55Xaragothgood trailers make for good pr
16:51.06AlphA_VsTlol
16:51.08BountyWho are you talking to Xara
16:51.08Xaragothbut ye
16:51.19Xaragothas soon as the whole "open list" hosting is out
16:51.25Xaragoththere should hopefully be a shift
16:51.27Xaragothhopefully
16:51.31Bountynot really
16:51.36BountyIt all depends on one thing
16:51.41BountyHow the open list is sorted
16:52.02Bountyand if its the first list the player sees
16:52.05AlphA_VsTi think its open longest
16:52.16AlphA_VsTor it should be
16:52.17Bountythats really the only way to do it
16:52.28Bountythe longest u wait the most chance u have
16:52.32AlphA_VsTyeah
16:52.39Bountybut
16:52.40AlphA_VsTthats the only fair thing to do
16:52.44Bountythe list has to be the FIRST thing players see
16:52.48Bountyif its just another tab
16:52.48AlphA_VsTYES!
16:52.52Bountyand the pop system pops up first
16:52.54Bountynothing will change
16:53.02AlphA_VsTno one clicks shit :P
16:53.05Bountynope
16:53.15Bountyotherwise the up and coming list would do something
16:53.16Bountylol
16:53.24Bountymaps are page 1 of up and coming are on like page 50
16:53.27Bountyof the popularity
16:55.14AlphA_VsTlol
16:55.15AlphA_VsTyeah
16:56.14AlphA_VsTSo I think I am going to find people, only logical thing I can do :P
16:56.26AlphA_VsTSo I can actually add content like bosses and shit :P
16:56.29Bountyto do what? work on paper zombies?
16:56.33AlphA_VsTyeah
16:56.37Bountylol
16:56.40Bountyoh boy
16:56.54BountyGL w/that
16:56.56AlphA_VsTi know
16:56.56Bounty><
16:57.32AlphA_VsT:D
16:59.18AlphA_VsTBut If I could get just 1 person especially for models i would be happy :P
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17:01.21Vindicatordoes anyone know how to make a unit collide with another one and basically both units would take damage upon getting near each other
17:01.38Vindicatorand if one could be a doodad, that would be great but not necessary
17:03.23Vindicator@Sixen: I found a bug with the editor today too.  If you are placing lava and click "Edit water" many options that aren't applicable to lava aren't greyed out correctly, but if you click the dropdown box and switch between water type "Water" and then back to "Lava" the correct fields that should have been greyed out are then greyed out.
17:03.51Sixenpost it on the forums ;)
17:04.16Vindicatork
17:04.17qwebirc824285will a zerg computer research terran upgrades if given the buildings?
17:08.50Vindicatorthe buildings corresponding to the terran upgrades? i don't quite understand your question
17:09.42Vindicatorif you give a unit/building the abilities to build certain buildings, they should be able to build those buildings, and if you give them the abilities to research specific upgrades, they should be able to research those upgrades, assuming requirements are met if there are any
17:15.31Bountyhow awesome would this song be as a boss theme http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFqBTSvBPAU lol
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17:16.28Bountyhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/23/kim-kardashian-flour-bomb-photos_n_1374782.html?ref=celebrity&ncid=webmail2
17:16.30BountyYES!
17:16.34Bountyflour bombed that bitch
17:16.36Bountyrofl
17:17.26Bountyand this quote
17:17.28Bounty"I am disturbed and embarrassed that people still act like this ... Throwing white powder around in New York City is no joke."
17:17.38AlphA_VsTlol
17:17.58BountyThat anthrax fear mongering shit is still going on? lol
17:18.03AlphA_VsTyeah dont want to waste those drugs
17:18.13Bountyit was f*cking flour
17:18.15AlphA_VsToh anthrax....
17:18.20AlphA_VsTi see
17:18.23Bountyi mean
17:18.26Bountyno offense but
17:18.35Bountyi could see Kim Kardashian being pelted with anthrax
17:18.37Bountywhy not
17:19.16Bountyi should prolly stop talking about this though, the gov most likely tracks the internet and anthrax is likely a keyword
17:19.17Bounty><
17:19.30Kuekensure
17:19.36Kuekenwanna throw in some more?
17:19.46Bountysome more what
17:19.49Kuekenkeywords
17:19.54Bountybomb
17:20.03Bountyarab
17:20.09Bountyuhh
17:20.11Bountymuslims
17:20.19Vindicatorit's cool, we know whatever is talked about in here is actually storyline plans for an upcoming custom game, and no one's ever talking about real life *wink wink*
17:20.21Kuekenal-Qaida
17:20.23Kueken:)
17:20.28Bountykanye west
17:20.31Kuekenduh
17:20.33Kuekenstop
17:20.37Kuekenthats too much
17:20.39Bountylol
17:21.00Bountyu know what sfunny
17:21.07BountyVindicator is right
17:21.08MexaIf not being listened on, purl has already taken care of everything else and logged it to rikers.
17:21.17Bountydont be surprised if what we're talking about is the storyline for Medal of Honor 2
17:21.22Mexahttp://www.rikers.org/ibot/%23sc2mapster/
17:21.38AlphA_VsToh oh i saw a list for this
17:21.44Bounty?
17:21.48Bountywhat teh fuck is that?
17:21.51Bountythis IRC is monitored?
17:21.58MexaYou didn't know?
17:22.02equinox1911are u telling me every crap we write in here is documented ?
17:22.03Bountyno?
17:22.04equinox1911^^
17:22.11Bountyhow the fuck would we know that
17:22.14Vindicatornice! that's a good thing actually
17:22.14Mexapewpew:P
17:22.57Bountynot really
17:23.07Bountywhat is the purpose of logging everything said in here
17:23.28Vindicatordunno what the purpose is but you could probably learn lots by reading through it
17:23.35equinox1911knowledge for further generations ?
17:23.35BountyLOL
17:23.38Bountyhave you ever been in here?
17:23.41Vindicatorif you're good at skimming through the bs =D
17:23.50Bountyneedle in a haystack
17:23.52Vindicatoroh ya, i've been doing sc2 mapping since day 1
17:24.08Bountythis irc has almost nothing to do with mapping
17:24.08Bountymost of the time
17:24.08MexaWith the right keywords, the logs will show up on a google search.
17:24.09AlphA_VsTpurl puts everything said on the web
17:24.10equinox1911so its 99% bs and 1% good stuff ^^ sounds like politics
17:24.12equinox1911lol
17:24.23Vindicatorhaha, well i've only been here for a few minutes today and got that invaluable link, and that's not the only time i've gotten good stuff
17:24.23MexaSo it's no a needle in a haystack.
17:24.24Bountyman
17:24.28Bountyi thought purl was here for fun
17:24.37Bountynow i find out hes working for the man
17:24.45Mexa:P
17:24.53Bountywell
17:24.56AlphA_VsTlol
17:24.59Bountythey aint taking me alive
17:25.05Bountyill be up all night now
17:25.06AlphA_VsTwhat did you do?
17:25.18Bountyiunno
17:25.38Bountyim sure ive said something in here
17:25.38Bountythats worth a few years in prison
17:25.39equinox1911heheh
17:25.54Bounty99% of the time i'm drunk
17:26.00equinox1911only if the *someone* tells the fbi ^^
17:26.02Bountyand i dont remember 99% of what i say
17:26.08Bountyman
17:26.10Bountycmon now
17:26.13Bountyu dont TELL the FBI
17:26.17MexaSo, because you now found out we're being logged, the risk of something happening to you has increased?
17:26.17Bountythey just hear it
17:26.20Bountyall the time
17:26.21Bounty><
17:26.31Bountyhonestly
17:26.36Bountyim so invested in this
17:26.39equinox1911i book my flight to langley right away
17:26.40equinox1911:)
17:26.42Bountyi dont know if im joking or if im serious
17:26.50Bountythats how invested i am in this discussion
17:26.52equinox1911do u ever know ?
17:26.59Bountyhonestly, its hard to tell sometimes
17:27.12Ahliwhat's the best way to let the camera follow a unit's movement, but let it follow a point with an offset... (that's my workaround for camera+edge of map bug problem).
17:27.13equinox1911i can never tell if ur serious or not ...
17:27.19Bountyits funny though
17:27.29equinox1911guess im not here enogh ;)
17:27.41Bountyim listening to "More Human than Human" and all i can think of is the cops busting in my house and that song is playing and i just matrix all of em
17:27.53BountyThats whats missing from crime
17:27.57Bountya soundtrack
17:27.57equinox1911booya
17:28.07BountyWould you rather rob a bank in silence
17:28.12Bountyor with a soundtrack playing
17:28.17Bounty><
17:28.21AlphA_VsTlol what
17:28.31Bountynever thought of that?
17:28.39Bountyits a good idea to keep your blood pumping lol
17:28.43equinox1911im thinking this would fit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGU1P6lBW6Q
17:28.54Bountyhaha
17:28.55Bountykr
17:28.57Bountyikr*
17:29.03equinox1911ikr?
17:29.07Bountythat should play when the cops show up
17:29.10Bountyand u try to make a run for it
17:29.15Bountyhahaha
17:29.41equinox1911then they get some of that awesum napalm :D
17:29.42equinox1911LOL
17:29.50Mexahttp://www.rikers.org/ that webpage is so 90s:P
17:30.07equinox1911ahh the eye cancer times
17:30.09BountyIs that Sixen?
17:30.12equinox1911what fun that was
17:30.14Bountylolol
17:30.34equinox1911now i will connect him to that pic forever
17:30.37equinox1911thatks bounty
17:30.43Sixen=X
17:30.43Bountyno problemo
17:30.44AlphA_VsTlol
17:30.50MexaSixen and Tim Rikers is not the same person
17:30.50AlphA_VsTis that sexen? no its not
17:31.01BountyPro tip Sixen, new glasses bro
17:31.09equinox1911har har
17:31.22AlphA_VsTLOL!
17:31.37AlphA_VsTwho the fuck is tim?
17:31.44Bountyno idea
17:31.53Mexahttp://www.rikers.org/ibot/%23sc2mapster/20090714.html.gz
17:31.54equinox1911the man
17:31.57Bountyapparently thats the guy monitoring all of our conversations
17:32.04Bountyso thats nice
17:32.11AlphA_VsThttp://tuxscreen.net/ OMG!
17:32.13AlphA_VsTI WANT!
17:32.26AlphA_VsTthing is so bad ass
17:32.40AlphA_VsTits a phone with a monitor wtf
17:32.49AlphA_VsTwho would want one of those
17:32.51BountyLines starting with spaces are not logged.
17:32.52BountyHA
17:32.54Bountyso
17:32.59Bountyall you have to do to stay off the grid
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17:33.17MexaWhat makes you so sure about that?
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17:33.19Scorp_Join us @ EU Map Night
17:33.32equinox1911that will fuck up the reading pleasure for everyone who wants to stalk us :D
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17:33.53MexaBounty, that was over two years ago.
17:33.55equinox1911is it on EU ?
17:33.55Scorp_I'll suggest it
17:34.01AlphA_VsTwait wait wait
17:34.02MexaThat could easily not be the case now:P
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17:34.09AlphA_VsTtim was in this channel?
17:34.12Bounty<PROTECTED>
17:34.15AlphA_VsTseriously?
17:34.16equinox1911ill check it out laters
17:34.16AlphA_VsTOMG!
17:34.29AlphA_VsT~logs
17:34.29purlAll conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/%23sc2mapster/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily.
17:34.33MexaBounty, in one day or so, we will see if that's correct:P
17:34.37equinox1911nicEEE
17:34.43Mexaah
17:34.47MexaMaybe not then:P
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17:35.40JademusSregRawr.
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17:36.09MexaBounty, keep in mind that "Lines starting with spaces are not logged", might not mean you're off the grid only by typing a space.
17:36.11MexaSince
17:36.21MexaWhat about the first part of the chat line?
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17:36.31AlphA_VsT<PROTECTED>
17:37.14Vindicatorhaha, i just pulled up the IRC log from the day Rodrigo was all like " I Need someone to help me test Nexus Censored Word Wars!!"   (His map got banned a while back after he added a dictionary of 30K words that had inappropriate words in it lol.)
17:37.37Bounty<PROTECTED>
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17:37.53MexaAll your secrets are belong to us.
17:38.04AlphA_VsT<PROTECTED>
17:38.15Mexaor his rage, perhaps.
17:38.18AlphA_VsT<PROTECTED>
17:38.26Bounty<PROTECTED>
17:38.27Vindicatoreh, he pushes he "marketing" too hard, but he's an original guy.  i think he's alright.
17:38.28AlphA_VsT<PROTECTED>
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17:38.44Vindicatoroh lol then why
17:38.47Bounty<PROTECTED>
17:38.49Vindicatorhaha
17:38.55AlphA_VsT<PROTECTED>
17:39.19MexaHis videos where he begins with sitting down the toilet with no pants on?
17:39.28Vindicatorwould you do that for your map though?
17:39.29Vindicatorlol
17:39.36AlphA_VsTdo what
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17:41.43Bounty<PROTECTED>
17:41.46AlphA_VsTbut would someone actually do it
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17:44.19AlphA_VsT?
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17:44.38AlphA_VsToh idono
17:44.43AlphA_VsTi really dont care
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17:45.05AlphA_VsTyou can looka t the logs
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17:45.25AlphA_VsTLOL
17:45.30AlphA_VsTi'm bored i need a break
17:45.50AlphA_VsTi'm going to code a mutation/evlove thingy
17:45.52Bounty<PROTECTED>
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17:46.14AlphA_VsTI am mad
17:46.24AlphA_VsT<PROTECTED>
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17:47.04AlphA_VsTand it got me interested the other day talking about it
17:48.13AlphA_VsTI'm sure it could be used for something
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17:51.46AlphA_VsTI will be good for some randomization
17:54.51Scorp_I need your help, folks. Which mini game/party game would you like to see in SC2 the most?
17:55.45JademusSregThe people in this channel are not a good representative of the community.
17:56.20________________lol
17:56.21JademusSregI'd start from the question "What game would I like to play" and make that.
17:56.21________________tru
17:56.38________________if its not fun 2 u its pointless
17:57.16Scorp_I am just looking for inspiration
17:57.25Vindicatorsmash TV?
17:58.12________________hrmm, how would i detect if a unit is attacking?
17:58.22Scorp_triggers?
17:58.25________________yup
17:58.28JademusSregUnderscore, I made a system for that.
17:58.31________________orly?
17:58.35________________link me
17:59.00JademusSregYes. Let me upload it to dropbox. It's one of my pet projects, an autonomous unit AI.
17:59.15________________oic
17:59.31JademusSregStill working out the kinks in the basic levels of the system, but the map has a weapon utilities script in it you can take a look at.
17:59.32________________OOOOO
17:59.37________________i know!
17:59.45________________wait ya, i still wanna see
17:59.52________________but i have a thing that'll work for my situation
18:00.34AlphA_VsTlol
18:00.42________________catalogs baby ;)
18:00.57JademusSregTo do what?
18:01.06AlphA_VsTyou just need to get the weapon cooldown
18:01.11________________^
18:01.12________________that
18:01.25AlphA_VsTim sure its not that simple though :D
18:01.26________________but, i still want to see your system, i like learning other ppls ways of doing things
18:01.29AlphA_VsTfucking game
18:02.18AlphA_VsThmmm
18:02.35JademusSreghttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/StarCraft%202/IntelligenceAgentPOC.SC2Map
18:03.11JademusSregWeapon cooldown is a funny thing.
18:03.21________________so what am i looking for... or did you extract only the weapon par
18:03.21________________t
18:03.36JademusSregWeapon Utilities script.
18:03.40________________k
18:04.38JademusSregAnyway, it is possible to get a weapon cooldown directly, if that weapon has a cooldown in its Cost array. But cooldown seemed to fuck up the weapon and made it never shoot again in my tests. =D
18:04.43AlphA_VsTI got my variables
18:05.01AlphA_VsTnow for the little script :P
18:05.28________________whao, quite the populous list u got here
18:05.30JademusSregSo instead I track weapon cooldown by using UnitAddCooldown with a string that doesn't refer to a real weapon.
18:06.37JademusSregThe private prototypes refer to functions not intended to be used outside the script, and the public prototypes refer to functions that are.
18:06.49________________ic ic
18:07.02AlphA_VsTlol
18:07.06AlphA_VsTcrazy
18:07.19MexaHey ___________
18:07.22________________?
18:07.51JademusSregThe Weapon Utilities script also creates a trigger that runs on attack, and it adds cooldown to an arbitrary string based on the weapon index, and calling the functions to get weapon cooldown or checking if it is on cooldown checks that arbitrary cooldown value.
18:07.54MexaAre you then one with that physicsbased puzzle?
18:08.15________________that sounds like fun... but ney sir, i am not
18:08.21MexaWith spheres in a circular area, which then players on the side shot projectiles on the middle?
18:08.36Mexasomething somethign.
18:08.39JademusSreg???
18:08.40MexaAlrighty then.
18:08.54JademusSregThat is a tad vague.
18:08.55MexaCan't explain it^^
18:09.05MexaYeah, sec
18:09.25________________so what if the weapon never fires
18:09.36JademusSregHow do you mean?
18:09.47________________like, you try to check its cooldown before the weapon fires
18:09.55________________i mean before the attack
18:10.02JademusSregThen obviously it won't be on cooldown?
18:10.09AlphA_VsTyeah
18:10.18________________i thought the point was you were trying to grab the cooldown
18:10.19JademusSregI don't see at what you're getting.
18:10.23MexaYou know that game where you should have at least 3 balls of the same color adjacent to each other, where a player shoots with some sort of ballistic, from the bottom of the screen
18:10.30JademusSregYes. It tracks cooldown.
18:11.12JademusSregMexa, I dunno about what you are talking, either. =D
18:11.27Mexamm .-.
18:12.31Mexahttp://www.funny-games.biz/magictoyfactory.html
18:12.38MexaOnly that is a fucking spinoff
18:12.46MexaOr clone
18:12.55MexaI'm looking for the original name of that game.
18:13.02________________oh that
18:14.08MexaWant to find a less lame one :D
18:14.31MexaBubble Shooter!
18:14.36Mexalol.
18:15.35MexaIt was this one I was thinking of.
18:15.36Mexahttp://www.gamesforwork.com/games/play-19367-Bubble_Spinner_2-Flash_Game
18:19.06AlphA_VsTGAH!
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18:24.20QueenGhi guys
18:25.29JademusSreg[warm and friendly response]
18:34.02AlphA_VsThmm wtf
18:34.56AlphA_VsTwhy am i getting a negativ enumber
18:34.58QueenG?
18:35.18AlphA_VsTwhats the max value of a integer?
18:37.30JademusSreg2^32-1
18:37.42AlphA_VsTwhich is :P
18:38.37JademusSreg4294967295
18:38.55AlphA_VsTyeah I will jsut use a string :P
18:39.36JademusSregSorry, 2^31-1
18:39.37JademusSregHaha
18:39.49JademusSregForgot to account for sign. Duh.
18:39.59AlphA_VsT:D
18:40.03JademusSreg2147483647
18:40.22AlphA_VsTi need something like this 66833516922172962302276899650283 :D
18:40.36JademusSregHow could you possibly need a value like that?
18:41.25AlphA_VsTI'm doing a evolution thing for fun :P
18:42.07JademusSregNAw, I dig genetic algorithms, but I don't see why you would need a value that large.
18:42.55AlphA_VsTeach digit is its own value from 1-9
18:42.59AlphA_VsTor 0
18:43.01RipperRooXmaybe because he makes a calcutlator who can calculate the sum of of 66833516922172962302276899650283 +1 ?!!!
18:43.10JademusSregHaha.
18:43.28RipperRooX(:
18:43.56JademusSregHow many dimensions and what are their ranges Alph?
18:44.23AlphA_VsTI just picked a length of 32 becasue it felt liek a good number
18:44.42JademusSregThat's a silly reason. How many properties do you have?
18:44.52AlphA_VsT0 :D
18:45.00Mexa.-.
18:45.01JademusSregThen for what is the number?
18:45.19AlphA_VsTI have no Idea, 9 is best :P
18:45.44JademusSregI begin to suspect you are purposefully not making sense.
18:46.03AlphA_VsTLol nope, thats all I got so far
18:46.11AlphA_VsTand that's what it's based on :P
18:48.12AlphA_VsTits not a whole lot I know but I don't really want to think to much about it :P
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18:52.51JademusSreg[14:52:50] <Bounty>   mmm pepperoni lovers pizza from pizza hut.. estimated arrival 3:14pm
18:53.02Bounty<PROTECTED>
18:53.03JademusSregI'll make a note of your love of pepperoni.
18:53.22QueenGhey Bounty
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18:54.00QueenGhmm ill probably order some pizza hut tonight too for my friends
18:54.10JademusSregBounty is preceding his messages with spaces to prevent his messages from being logged by purl.
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18:54.37MexaWe'll see about that tomorrow
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18:54.53JademusSregBounty, would you also say you enjoy sausage?
18:54.56Bounty<PROTECTED>
18:55.10Bounty<PROTECTED>
18:55.28JademusSregJust that you want to fill your mouth with meat.
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18:56.37JademusSregI dunno. Perhaps that's only because you haven't tried it. =D
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18:57.36Bountyno way*
18:57.36AlphA_VsTanyways this thing is pretty much pointless and yeah haha
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18:58.41MexaAre you drunk again?
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19:00.16MexaTv time, bbl.
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19:00.54AlphA_VsTlol
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19:01.01AlphA_VsTyou do that by your self bounty
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19:02.36AlphA_VsTI could slap the shit out of you for saying bro :D
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19:02.58AlphA_VsTlol
19:03.14AlphA_VsTSO should I get the best parent or a random parent?
19:03.25JademusSregBest.
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19:04.26AlphA_VsTok, I will calculate it based on overall value, that makes sense
19:04.26SixenI feel like this channel shoudl be renamed to #bounty
19:04.31JademusSregHaha.
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19:05.08QueenGhey Sixen :)
19:05.22AlphA_VsTpoor bounty :D
19:05.24Sixen^^
19:05.24QueenGwhatcha doing?
19:05.38AlphA_VsThes doing sixen stuff
19:05.44Sixenwell, I can tell you what i'm not doing, and that's economics hw
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19:06.37Torhal|worksues Sixen for twenty-billion bajillion dollars.
19:06.40Bounty<PROTECTED>
19:06.42QueenGoh sucks, i took micro and marco econ, its not what i thought it would be, its just another 'read this book memorize vocab' type class
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19:06.58Sixen;P
19:07.04QueenGbetter just do ur hw and be done with it for the night
19:07.27QueenGbrb
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19:07.41Sixenkkthx
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19:07.59Sixenlol
19:08.55AlphA_VsTno your not
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19:14.20QueenGhi Bibendus
19:17.53________________is there a way to add randomness to a validator?
19:17.59________________jk, got it
19:23.06AlphA_VsT:D
19:23.50AlphA_VsTyay it works so far :P
19:25.53AlphA_VsTI limited the base values for the parents also 0.o
19:26.26AlphA_VsTBest Host 1: 5 (43050100053231310512423532102412 ) yay :D
19:26.31AlphA_VsTI get to excited over little things :D
19:28.11AlphA_VsTI could make a game out of this lol
19:30.20________________lol
19:30.47AlphA_VsTI know, I could put it into my crazy robot map
19:30.52AlphA_VsTI have wanted to make
19:31.21AlphA_VsTCrazy Robot! You so crazy!
19:31.35AlphA_VsTI think that is a good name
19:31.45RipperRooXgod layoutfiles are so freaking annoying :D
19:31.51AlphA_VsTYES!
19:32.25RipperRooXim not getting this freaking wireframe top left corner xD
19:32.42AlphA_VsTlol
19:32.50AlphA_VsTinfo is the worst
19:33.34AlphA_VsTFinding the values was the easy part :P
19:33.43AlphA_VsTand that took forever to find the right path
19:35.07RipperRooX:D
19:35.21RipperRooXwell i got it moved
19:35.36RipperRooXbut not top left corner xD
19:35.52AlphA_VsTlol
19:36.18AlphA_VsTthe wireframe doesnt like to move :(
19:36.23AlphA_VsTI never even got it to move
19:36.35AlphA_VsTI had to postion other things If I remmeber
19:37.06RipperRooXhehe :D i think one of my anchors is wrong :/
19:38.09AlphA_VsT0.o
19:38.59AlphA_VsTI need to write something up, so i can find people to work on the assets for paper zombies for me :P
19:42.36Dustin:O
19:43.47QueenGhey dustin
19:46.40JademusSreghttp://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/even-in-death
19:49.14AlphA_VsTanyone here want to do some work for me :P
19:49.44AlphA_VsTlol
19:52.29JademusSregWhat's the salary?
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19:57.29equinox1911wut kind of work ?
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20:01.04flyingspatulahey  bounty so did u ever click that vid
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20:03.13QueenGhi flyingspatula
20:03.16QueenGhi Helral
20:03.20flyingspatulasup
20:03.34QueenGwhatcha working on flyingspatula?
20:03.34Helralmeows
20:04.06flyingspatulaa prop hunt similar to bounty
20:04.26flyingspatulabut having graphic issues like ground flickers and pixelates
20:04.27flyingspatulawhen moving
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20:10.07Mexahttps://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/301739_342491722453736_206979286004981_867463_2068348424_n.jpg
20:10.26equinox1911hehe
20:10.26flyingspatulalol agreed
20:10.28equinox1911so true
20:15.41BountyNom Nom
20:16.22MexaYou forgot the spacing.
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20:24.26QueenGlol handegg
20:25.10MexaLooks like it doesn't
20:25.18MexaAlso Jademus, nice album there :D
20:25.45JademusSreg=D
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20:28.21RipperRooXHow many Kittys does it take to change a lightbulb? :D
20:29.27MexaOne, and his name is Helral(?)
20:32.42RipperRooXi am not sure.. i am just creating the joke to tease him :D
20:33.01QueenGmeow meow
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20:33.05MexaAh, well maybe he went afk too soon:>
20:33.19RipperRooXno problem i can repeat the joke every 30min :D
20:33.42QueenGI shall give him a beep. HELRAL
20:33.57RipperRooXhe is busy dont disturb him^^
20:36.40AlphA_VsTlol ahndegg
20:38.53flyingspatulahey bounty that other vid was crap quality couldnt see terrain. heres a better quality... cept fraps fucked up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0-tchTGBAM&feature=youtu.be
20:39.02flyingspatulaset it to 1080p and fullscreen its liek 2 second slong -_-
20:39.41flyingspatulacant see i tunless u fullscreen + 1080;
20:39.43flyingspatulap
20:43.12flyingspatulathe terrain doesnt pixelate like that for anyione else?
20:43.15flyingspatulain sc2
20:46.51Bountyi dont really see it but i kinda do
20:46.57Bountydoesnt seem like a problem to me?
20:46.58flyingspatulafulls creen 1080p?
20:47.00flyingspatulawell
20:47.05Bountyyeah
20:47.08flyingspatulaits a huge problem when its noticble in game
20:47.13flyingspatulaeverything pixelates like that
20:47.23flyingspatulaits almost identical to if u were in the editor moving ur camera around
20:47.25flyingspatulait pixelates bad
20:47.38Bounty<PROTECTED>
20:47.46flyingspatulameh
20:47.53flyingspatulaas long as its just for me i wont worry abou tit
20:48.01flyingspatulajust if its for every1 who ever tries playing map
20:48.03flyingspatulathatd be a pain
20:48.14AlphA_VsTi dont see anything
20:48.17flyingspatulaWTF THIS MAP HURTS MY EYES GROUND KEEPS FLICKERING
20:48.36flyingspatulahow can u not
20:48.41flyingspatulasee the green grass pixelate as u move
20:48.45flyingspatulait like sparckles almost
20:48.48flyingspatulasparkles*
20:49.10flyingspatulaleft side is apparent
20:49.37flyingspatulabetter yet dont fulls creen
20:52.25flyingspatulaguess i got bigger problems. like how my camera gets choppy
20:54.23Kuekeni dont see anything either
20:54.33Kuekeneither you have better eyes than us
20:54.41flyingspatulalol
20:54.41Kuekenor your monitor is broken
20:54.47flyingspatulafml
20:54.51flyingspatulabut why isit ONLY
20:54.54flyingspatulain sc2 i dont get it gah
20:55.22Kuekenwell, granted, its a 3 sec video, maybe I missed it ^^
20:55.30flyingspatulalol ya it sorta cut out
20:55.32flyingspatulai could make another
20:55.33flyingspatulabut
20:55.39flyingspatulaan even bigger problem is more retarded
20:56.01flyingspatulamy camera likes to lag and get choppy. ill be moving around and it will cosntantly stop moving for a second and skip up to wher eit shoul dbe
20:56.17flyingspatulathe retarded part is, if i purposely limit my game to run 30fps
20:56.19flyingspatulait doesnt do it
20:56.23flyingspatulabut when its 60fps its hell
20:56.29flyingspatulamakes NO fuckign sense at all
20:56.31AlphA_VsTlol
20:56.34flyingspatulasrsly im raging
20:56.50flyingspatulalike if i run a fuck ton of programs to slow my game
20:56.55flyingspatulacamera wont skip one bit
20:57.07flyingspatulabut when im over 30+ fps its like camera cant keep up
20:57.50flyingspatulareatarded shit like this has made me temproary stop mymap
20:59.02flyingspatulai should record vid of it on bnet
20:59.10flyingspatulano doodads no nuthin for max fps
20:59.18AlphA_VsTlol
20:59.25BountyI think im gonna make a PoC tonight JademusSreg
20:59.31flyingspatulapoc?
20:59.39Bountyfor a music game, not the one i described to Alpha earlier
21:00.01BountyThis map will require much alcohol though
21:00.03Bountylol
21:00.19BountyTO MAKE THIS MAP
21:00.21BountyYOU MUST FIRST
21:00.26BountyFEEL THE MUSIC
21:00.31QueenGoh i got one
21:01.00flyingspatulamake uh
21:01.05Bountyi already know what im making
21:01.07Bountylol
21:01.09flyingspatulalol
21:01.13Bountythe question is
21:01.14QueenGhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZSS5dEeMX64#t=22s
21:01.19Bountyshould it proove to be very good
21:01.22flyingspatulawhen someone says music game those japanese music games come ot mind lol
21:01.29Bountywhat is the max amount of players you can have to not risk someone lagging
21:01.33Bountybc if someone lags for even a second
21:01.37flyingspatulalol
21:01.39Bountythe entire sequence is thrown out of place
21:01.39flyingspatula1 player -_-
21:01.43Bountylol
21:01.58Bountyyeah but im sure ppl will want to play with friends
21:02.01equinox1911kwel i like single player maps ^^
21:02.02Bountyso im gonna say... 2 or 3?
21:02.07Bountybut its the same game
21:02.15Bountythe concept will work with 1-infinite amount of players
21:02.18Bounty:)
21:03.07Bountyjust gotta pick a song
21:03.10Bountyand start drinking as fast as possible
21:03.16Bounty=P
21:03.31Bountygotta listen to the song like 1000 times to build a proper sequence
21:05.10flyingspatulahey bounty, from experience... if u were playing one of ur tpv maps and u had say 60fps. if u played it on bnet same exact scenario with no one else. would u still obtain same fps
21:05.14flyingspatulaor do u lose 20ish fps
21:05.36Bountyadding more players has not effect on wasd responsiveness or framerate
21:05.41flyingspatulathen whys
21:05.41Bountyno*
21:05.44flyingspatulaframerate drop on bnet
21:05.51Bountybc ur doing something wrong
21:05.52Bountylol
21:05.55flyingspatulaTHE FUCKING HELL
21:05.59flyingspatulai dont get what
21:06.11Bountyits prolly ur camera collision system
21:06.19flyingspatulai disable dthat i thot it might have been that
21:06.28flyingspatulagrr
21:06.35flyingspatula<PROTECTED>
21:06.49Bountybad attitude
21:06.54Bountyespecially for a doodad hunt style map lol
21:06.55flyingspatulalol
21:07.01flyingspatulai mean
21:07.05Bountywhy do u think i havent made doodad hunt 2
21:07.07flyingspatulai havent been able to even work on it
21:07.08Bountyu have to be in the zone
21:07.11flyingspatulabc of this crap
21:07.11Bountythe entire time
21:07.14Bountyno
21:07.15flyingspatulatrue
21:07.24Bountyi didnt make it bc if u dont  110% want to make a map like doodad hunt
21:07.25Bountythen u shouldnt
21:07.28Bountyu cant force funny
21:07.40Bountyif i could force funny i would be on TV as a comedian
21:07.42Bountylol
21:07.45flyingspatulai very much do
21:07.48flyingspatulawant to make it
21:07.55flyingspatulabut im having all these tech issues with camera lately
21:08.00flyingspatulathat i cant seem to figure out
21:08.07Bountylook
21:08.09Bountyfor framerate
21:08.23Bountythe best thing can do is shrink everything down to about 1/4 of what it is now
21:08.27Bountydo u know what i mean when i say that?
21:08.31flyingspatulalol yes
21:08.40Bountythe map is still the same amount of playing room to the player
21:08.47Bountylittle do they know its bc their unit is 1/4 the size
21:08.47flyingspatulayeah
21:08.53Bountythat way you can have a lower farclip
21:08.58flyingspatulaand i think thats a very good idea
21:08.59flyingspatulahowever
21:09.00Bountyand it looks the same
21:09.14flyingspatulai even disabled the terrain t onot show up and on bnet ur framerate still drops regardless of ANYTHING being rendered
21:09.23Bountyhaha
21:09.23Bountywow
21:09.26flyingspatulalike
21:09.28Bountythen u did something
21:09.30flyingspatulau see why im pissed
21:09.31flyingspatulaexactly
21:09.33Bountybc that should give u like 10000000 FPS
21:09.34flyingspatulabut i cant figure out what LOL
21:09.36flyingspatulayeah
21:09.39flyingspatulaSOMETHING is fucked up
21:09.47Bountysomething is running
21:09.47flyingspatulaso it HAS to be my code but i cant see what i mdoign wrong
21:09.55flyingspatulagiven my triggers could be done better it snot horrible
21:10.00flyingspatulaits a work in progress still but man
21:10.09Bountydo u want me to look at it?
21:10.33Bountyunless u have like 1,00000 triggers i should be able to find it
21:10.37flyingspatulalol well it sjust so bad rigth now ud think *oh god this guy will never make a good prophunt* alot o fmy stuff i sjust scattered about but if u want to look thatd defintely help
21:10.38AlphA_VsThahahaha
21:10.45flyingspatulayeah ud easily find it
21:11.04AlphA_VsTdoing something dumb
21:11.25flyingspatulalemme pastebin this bitch in a few mins here
21:11.38QueenGu gotta be in the danger zone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8rZWw9HE7o
21:11.54Bountyur going to pastebin the entire map?
21:11.55Bountylol
21:12.24Bountybtw i know what song i wanna do but
21:12.33Bountyi dont wanan do a 4+ minute long song for a prototype
21:12.36Bountytahts alot of code
21:12.38flyingspatulado u want me to just show u code?
21:12.50Bountywell i figured u would just send me the map
21:12.51AlphA_VsTlol
21:12.55Bountybut thats up to u
21:13.06AlphA_VsTyeah :P
21:13.14Bountythe last time i did something with a song
21:13.17Bountylike sequence wise
21:13.21Bountyit was a 30-40 second intro
21:13.27Bountyand it was 2 triggers worth of code
21:13.31Bountyit wouldnt let me fit it into one
21:13.34Bountylol
21:15.23QueenGwhat song u doing bounty?
21:15.44Bountyi wanted the prototype song to be More Human than Human by White Zombie ><
21:16.23Bountybc i alraedy know how to map out the notes
21:16.28Bountybut its a long song lol
21:16.32Bountyas far as mapping out the notes goes
21:16.35QueenGthats a long song
21:16.45Bountybut im listening to it now
21:16.51Bountymost of the song is just repeated
21:16.57Bountyso i could just map the songs that repeat
21:17.01Bountyand call on them when they do
21:17.07Bountymap the parts*
21:18.36QueenGoh thats a good plan
21:18.52Bountyand im quite positive nobody else is going to make this
21:18.56Bountybc its not what u think
21:18.57Bountylol
21:19.13Bountybest way i can describe it is
21:19.24BountyIts a Bound/Maze/Rhythm/Music game
21:19.27flyingspatulabounty want me to send u map file or just join it in bnet?
21:19.46Bountypastebin the triggers u have that are always running
21:19.49flyingspatulawouldnt hurt to let this so called *fps god* here look at it lol
21:19.51flyingspatulaok
21:19.52Bountybc its likely one of those
21:20.08Bountyim not fps god
21:20.10Bountyim tps god
21:20.15flyingspatulalol
21:20.18Bountysomeone else is tps god bc hes the only one to make a real fps
21:20.21Bountyerr
21:20.25Bountysomeone else is fps god*
21:20.27flyingspatulawhos that
21:20.31BountyLinkD
21:20.38flyingspatulaive never heard of a good fps map
21:20.43Bountybc there is only one
21:20.51flyingspatulalol
21:20.57flyingspatulawhgats it called
21:21.34Bountyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VQXtVSoMOk
21:23.06flyingspatulahm interesting
21:23.06flyingspatulafps view definetly makes some things easier
21:23.40Bountyi made one FPS
21:23.43Bountylike the one in that video
21:23.47Bountytrust me nothing gets easier
21:24.31flyingspatulalol only probhlem i ran into was the clipping
21:24.48flyingspatulai mean i made a traceline back in wc3 days just fine for shooting
21:26.40BountyBest part about making a music game in the editor?
21:27.08BountyCamera Shake + Heavy Bass parts? *drool*
21:27.08Bountyepic
21:27.20flyingspatulalol
21:28.05AlphA_VsTLOL
21:28.15Bountyyano?
21:28.16Bountylol
21:29.12flyingspatulabounty heres my triggers http://pastebin.com/RtLUi44d
21:29.22flyingspatulamay hav eleft 1 or two out brb
21:29.37Bountyda fuck is i?
21:29.39Bountylol
21:29.57Bountyalso
21:30.01AlphA_VsTlol
21:30.01Bountyhow long is Wait time
21:30.10AlphA_VsTwtf is that shit
21:30.10Bountyu realize everytime u run that trigger ur making a new loop
21:30.14Bountylol
21:30.31Bountystfu Alpha
21:30.43Bountygo for on your little mutation shit
21:30.47Bountygo work on*
21:30.53AlphA_VsThey shut your face
21:30.57flyingspatulalolol
21:31.06Bountyanswer mah question spatula
21:31.08flyingspatulawhat exasctly do you mean bounty
21:31.13Bountyin that first one
21:31.19Bountywhat the fuck is i?
21:31.21Bountythe integer
21:31.22flyingspatulasry im having a migraine and i lose much of my vision sorta half able to read lol
21:31.22Bountyand
21:31.26Bountywhat is Wait time
21:31.28Bountylike how long is it
21:31.29flyingspatulaoh
21:31.32flyingspatula0.0
21:31.37Bountythere ya go
21:31.39Bountyturn that shit off
21:31.43flyingspatulawhats it pose to be
21:31.47AlphA_VsTlol
21:31.55AlphA_VsT0.o is .0312
21:31.58Bountyits supposed to be 0.0
21:32.10flyingspatulathen whats the problem lol
21:32.11Bountybut its not supposed to start a a new fucking while loop every 0.0 seconds
21:32.17Bountybc they dont end
21:32.19AlphA_VsTyeah thats crazy
21:32.20Bountyuntil that integer isnt 13
21:32.24Bountywhatever it is
21:32.26Bountylol
21:32.28flyingspatulathen what would u rather i do
21:32.37BountyWHAT IS "i"
21:32.39AlphA_VsTcheck if the fucntion is running
21:32.41Bountythats what i need to know
21:32.47Bountynto even that alpha
21:32.50AlphA_VsTif not start it up again
21:32.52flyingspatulai is just an index so it goes from player 1 to 12
21:32.52Bountyi just wanan know waht that integer is
21:33.05Bountyoh wow
21:33.09Bountyman
21:33.10Bountythat is
21:33.11AlphA_VsTlol
21:33.12Bountyinsane
21:33.16Bountythat didnt crash your PC?
21:33.18Bountylol
21:33.26Bountyok
21:33.29AlphA_VsTseriously :D
21:33.30Bountyu rdy spatula?
21:33.34Bountyheres what you do
21:33.36flyingspatulawhy would it lol? every 0 seconds it does all 12 players
21:33.40Bountyill make u a fix
21:33.42Bountygimme a sec
21:33.43flyingspatulahm ok
21:33.45flyingspatulaXD
21:33.49flyingspatulai could have just don e awhile loop
21:33.52flyingspatulabut still same thing
21:33.53AlphA_VsTno reason to do every 0.0 seconds
21:34.00Bountydont delete that trigger
21:34.04Bountyim just makign u the fix
21:34.08flyingspatulaok :P
21:34.10Bountyu can paste all that other shit in it into what im about to show u
21:34.20flyingspatulakk
21:34.26AlphA_VsTjust have a single loop that updates the camera location for all players
21:34.34JademusSregKa-pew.
21:34.46flyingspatulathats kind of what I had intended, the periodic makes u a loop for all 12 players
21:34.52Bountywait
21:34.54Bountyim confused again
21:34.57flyingspatulalol
21:34.58Bountythat integer is for players right?
21:35.12Bountywhy would you stop it if you had more than a certain amount of players?
21:35.13flyingspatulathe refresh trigger runs every 0 seconds, the i loops 12 times
21:35.19Bountyoh
21:35.21Bountyyeah
21:35.22Bountynope
21:35.23Bountynot anymore
21:35.25JademusSregIt would be more efficient to iterate through the active playergroup.
21:35.25flyingspatulahaha ok
21:35.29Bountyok so
21:35.34Bountyu need this to ALWAYS run right?
21:35.43flyingspatulaid assume so lol
21:35.43Bountyno matter what
21:35.49Bountywell im just asking you :)
21:35.54flyingspatulawell
21:36.09flyingspatulathe only time it wouldnt need to run is between rounds i suppose
21:36.11JademusSregBounty is driving at the point that if it's always going to run, you don't need a periodic event.
21:36.28flyingspatulagotcha
21:36.35AlphA_VsTyeah
21:36.36flyingspatulalol
21:36.55AlphA_VsTyou put it in a loop that never stops running with a 0.0312 wait
21:37.14flyingspatulawell i thot about just doing a while loop from initialization i just didn tthink it made a difference
21:37.15JademusSreg0.03125
21:37.24JademusSregOr 0.0625 depending on your precision needs.
21:37.31Bountyhttp://pastebin.com/vz5hmHMv
21:37.38Bountymake a global variable called Game In Session
21:37.44Bountyturn it off after the round is over
21:37.45flyingspatula<3 love you guys
21:37.52Bountyand create that action definition
21:37.52flyingspatulakk ill try this now bounty thx
21:37.59Bountymake sure you check Create Thread
21:38.05Kuekenmake sure to put in a 0 wait to actually get 0.03125
21:38.06Bountybut when u turn that boolean off
21:38.07Bountyitll shut it down
21:38.23Kuekenany value above 0 will cause a 0.625 wait instead
21:38.32Kueken* .0
21:38.36Bountyalso
21:38.38AlphA_VsTlol
21:38.39Bountymake sure you when paste your stuff
21:38.43Bountythe wiat is in the right spot
21:38.46AlphA_VsTor just type .0312
21:38.54JademusSreg0.03125
21:38.57flyingspatulak
21:39.03Kuekenif you type .0312 or .03125
21:39.10flyingspatulawait sry whats this about threads?
21:39.12Kuekenthe wait will actually last .0625
21:39.16AlphA_VsTsame thing
21:39.19AlphA_VsTreally?
21:39.20flyingspatulamake sure theres no multi instances goin?
21:39.23Kuekenonly if you type 0
21:39.24JademusSregNaw, Kueken.
21:39.30Kuekenit lasts 0.03125
21:39.30Bountystop listening to them
21:39.34Bountyits an action definition
21:39.44Kuekendid they change it in some patch?
21:39.45Bountyit will only launch as many times as u tell it to
21:39.52KuekenI definitely tested it
21:39.56AlphA_VsTthats dumb :P
21:39.59flyingspatulaOHHHH
21:40.01flyingspatulai get it
21:40.02JademusSregOr rather, let me clarify, I hope it wouldn't be that dumb.
21:40.06Bountyalso
21:40.08Bountyspatula
21:40.12Bountywhen u place the wiat
21:40.12KuekenI am pretty sure it is
21:40.13Bountyhttp://pastebin.com/CBu0nBa7
21:40.16Bountythats how u put the wait time in
21:40.30JademusSregI'll have to test it, haha.
21:40.44flyingspatulahahaha yeah i knew that much bounty thanks :P
21:40.48Bountyjust makign sure
21:40.49Bountylol
21:40.50AlphA_VsTyeah i knwo right
21:40.51Kuekenalso, since basically everything important in the game updates at 0.0625, actually using 0.03125 won't make any difference
21:40.57flyingspatulai just honestly assumed the periodic trigger was the same. i was way wrong lol
21:40.58JademusSregCorrect.
21:41.01JademusSreg=D
21:41.04Bountyyou know how to make an action definition though right flyingspatula?
21:41.12flyingspatulayes
21:41.12Bountyand how to call them
21:41.13Bountyok
21:41.15flyingspatulaXD
21:41.20Bountydo NOT forget to check create thread
21:41.22Bountylol
21:41.32flyingspatulai honestly never heard of doing that
21:41.32Kuekenif you for example move a unit petween 2 points at a rate of 0.03125
21:41.40Kuekenan interesting thing happens
21:41.51JademusSregStuttering. =D
21:41.53flyingspatulai may need to search threads so i get a better idea
21:41.56Kuekenwhere the actor will always and only be visible at one of the points
21:42.08Bountyi just explained it all
21:42.10Kuekenwhile the physical unit is always and only at the other point
21:42.14Bountywould have been nice if these other douche bags would stfu
21:42.23BountyIM TRYNA TEACH OVA HEERRR
21:42.24Kuekenall melee units run to the 2nd pint
21:42.30flyingspatulayeah i kno wbounty lol but its somewhat hard i cant see very good atm so im trying to reread crap
21:42.36JademusSregA superposition of states, haha.
21:42.36Kuekenwhile the unit actor is at the first point
21:42.44Kuekenwhich suggests
21:42.57Kuekenthat, while the game engine runs at 0.03125
21:43.11Kuekenit only uses every 2nd tick to update stuff
21:43.15JademusSregYes.
21:43.26Kuekenefery even tick to update gameplay, every odd tick to update graphics
21:43.30Kuekensomething like that
21:43.38BountyJademusSreg
21:43.43JademusSregThe only thing of which I am aware that updates in 1/32 gt increments are missile visuals.
21:43.44BountyDo you remember that music game i told you about?
21:43.52Bountythe one that its like a maze/bound
21:44.03JademusSregSure.
21:44.07Bountyi'm going to have a prototype up soon
21:44.12flyingspatulaare trigger executes what you mean by threads?
21:44.12Bountyso im going to need you
21:44.14Bounty=P
21:44.21Bountyno
21:44.25flyingspatulafuck ok then im an idiot
21:44.27flyingspatulaill figure it out lol
21:44.29AlphA_VsTholy shit
21:44.29BountyCreate an Action Definition
21:44.36flyingspatulaok
21:44.39Bountyits  not a trigger
21:44.45Bountygot it?
21:44.48Bountylol
21:45.01JademusSregIf you make a loop that runs 32 times per game second, and you print, say, a unit position, you'll see repeats.
21:45.04Kuekenwell it becomes one, if you check to run in a thread *duck*
21:45.08AlphA_VsTwelll
21:45.14flyingspatulasry yeah bounty
21:45.14AlphA_VsTi just tested it
21:45.36flyingspatulaoh i see it
21:45.41Bountythata boy
21:45.43flyingspatulalol
21:45.46AlphA_VsTand 0.0 =  0.0625 and .03125 =  0.06250
21:45.48Bountymeet your new friend
21:45.51Bountythe action definition
21:45.58AlphA_VsTthe game wont wait  0.03125
21:46.01flyingspatulai just dont really understand what its doing but i can uhm google it or w/e instead of making u retell me lol
21:46.02AlphA_VsT0.o
21:46.06Kuekenalpha, you messed up your test ^^
21:46.07AlphA_VsTunless i just did something wrong
21:46.19Bountywhat dont you understand flyingspatula
21:46.27Bountyu said u knew what an action definition is and how its called/ how it works
21:46.28Kuekenthe ui is nly updated every 0.0625, you need to factor this in your test
21:46.30Bountylol
21:46.37JademusSregAlph, did you put that value in an event?
21:46.53flyingspatulayeah ive just never checkmarked create thread
21:47.02Kuekentry to increment a variable every 0 and every 0.0001 seconds with a wait respectively
21:47.07Kuekenand print after 1 sec
21:47.14Bountyit does exactly what u think it would do
21:47.29AlphA_VsTim printing game time
21:47.29Bountymakes its own thread
21:47.31Bounty:)
21:47.41Bountyif it makes u feel better spatula
21:47.47Bountyall of my tps games use shit loads of em
21:47.50Bountyfor everything
21:47.52flyingspatulahaha ok i guess a more obvious question would have been i have no idea what *thread* means apparently
21:47.53Bountyshooting
21:47.53Bountymoving
21:47.54Bountyetc
21:47.55flyingspatulaahhh nice
21:48.01AlphA_VsTnothing below .0625 works
21:48.05AlphA_VsT0.o
21:48.09flyingspatulalol alpha ur still going on about that
21:48.13AlphA_VsTyes
21:48.16flyingspatulaXD
21:48.16AlphA_VsTits important
21:48.20Bountyno its not
21:48.22Bountyjsut use fucking 0
21:48.25BountyGET ON WITH YER LIFE
21:48.29AlphA_VsT0 is not 0
21:48.30BountyZERO
21:48.31BountyPOINT
21:48.32BountyZERO
21:48.34AlphA_VsT0 is not 0
21:48.35Bountywe know its not zero
21:48.38Bountybut its the fastest u can get
21:48.39Bountyso
21:48.40Bountyuse it
21:48.41Bountynaow
21:48.44AlphA_VsTno its not
21:48.48AlphA_VsT:P
21:48.50Bountyoh no u didnt
21:49.03flyingspatulafuck, i need to stop staring at pc for a lil. but ill definteluy be back soon lol i appriceate thehelp ill see if it changes stuff
21:49.06flyingspatulacant see shit atm
21:49.13Bountytake a break
21:49.14Bountyjesus
21:49.17flyingspatulalol
21:49.17Bountyif u cant see
21:49.23Bountytake a break
21:49.23Bountylol
21:49.27flyingspatulai have chronic migraines im used to it
21:49.31Bountyu have zero competition
21:49.34Bountyso just chill
21:49.36flyingspatulahaha
21:49.48AlphA_VsTunless im doing something wrong here
21:50.18AlphA_VsTmaybe the gaem time is wrong
21:50.23flyingspatulayeah thats the leas tof my worries... my worries are blatently copying everything in your 2.0 videos like your jumpin guy n shit XD
21:50.55flyingspatulaits too tempting
21:50.58flyingspatulabut i wont D:
21:52.27JademusSregGame time from the native probably only updates in 0.0625 increments.
21:52.29JademusSregWahaha
21:53.47AlphA_VsTim thinking so
21:53.57AlphA_VsTwhich is kinda lame :p
21:54.10AlphA_VsTor maybe its broken
21:56.04AlphA_VsTsomething seems off
21:57.28________________What is that black box for on the SC II default UI in game?
21:57.28________________http://imgur.com/uIWeN
21:58.16Ahlifriend button something behind it
21:58.19Ahlihold on
21:59.16AhliGameUI/UIContainer/ConsoleUIContainer/BattleNetButtonFriendsFrameImage
21:59.45Ahli<Frame type="Image" name="GameUI/UIContainer/ConsoleUIContainer/BattleNetButtonFriendsFrameImage" file="GameUI"> <Anchor side="Bottom" relative="$parent" pos="Max" offset="-150"/> <Anchor side="Right" relative="$parent" pos="Max" offset="0"/></Frame>
22:00.05Ahliu can use that snippet to move it around in your layout file
22:00.32________________ty
22:00.50________________so u said friend button... u click it to see ur friend list?
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22:01.27AlphA_VsTyeah the friend button in game
22:01.34________________mmk guess i wont remove it then
22:02.01________________hmm, dont know a good place to put it... maybe ill change the icon so it fits better with everything
22:02.37*** part/#sc2mapster Saeris (~Saeris@76.91.57.78)
22:03.40RipperRooXhas someone tried this method ? http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/24387-trigger-how-to-create-a-basic-minimap/#p1
22:04.08Kuekenalpha, I tested it just now
22:04.29Kuekenand any value it considers >0 results in a rate of 0.0625
22:04.45Kuekenbut since fixed works in 1/4096 intervals
22:04.57Kuekensomething like 0.001 will just be 0 internally
22:05.08Kuekenso it results in 0.03125 rate
22:06.13Kueken*add a zero ;)
22:08.53JademusSregHaha.
22:09.32JademusSregSo wait 0.03125 is treated like 0.0625. That's a kick in the nads.
22:09.52AlphA_VsTwell jade
22:10.01AlphA_VsTim confused
22:10.15AlphA_VsTbecause i cahgned the way i tested
22:11.00AlphA_VsTand even though game time was saying .0625 it was updated twice before the wait of 0.3125
22:11.04AlphA_VsTerr .03125
22:11.11________________ripper, whats wrong with the default minimap?
22:11.28JademusSregUsing which wait value?
22:11.32AlphA_VsTso its outputting 0.625 twice
22:11.42JademusSregWell, yes, that is expected.
22:11.49AlphA_VsT0.0 for real time and 0.03125 for th way
22:11.57AlphA_VsTfor the wait
22:12.06RipperRooXthe default minimap jumps too much when i zoomed in.. i wanted to ask if the custom minimap is more smooth
22:12.20JademusSregThe thread is updating faster than the function's return.
22:12.29JademusSregSo that is precisely the result expected.
22:12.35AlphA_VsTyeah
22:12.40flyingspatulajade did u say theres a better way than constantly looping between all 12 players?
22:12.52JademusSregUse active playergroup.
22:13.00flyingspatulai thot that still technically loops
22:13.08________________i haven't tried it, but I still don't see the use to one? o.o
22:13.12AlphA_VsTso yeah anything but 0.o is 0.0625 0.o
22:13.17flyingspatulaill try it
22:13.32AlphA_VsTwhich is kinda silly :(
22:13.37Kuekenactive playergroup loops only 12 players, if actually 12 players are in the game
22:13.37JademusSregThat explains some odd behavior I had earlier.
22:14.00AlphA_VsTfucking Kueken :D thanks for the info though :P
22:14.05Kuekenimproving performance for not-full games
22:14.14flyingspatulaah
22:14.15RipperRooX_______ as i said it might be more smooth.. u can show areas with it .. etc.
22:14.35JademusSregI had assumed 0.03125 in a wait would be what it says on the tin, but oh well.
22:14.42Kueken:p
22:14.57JademusSregThat means I have something I need to test.
22:15.47AlphA_VsTsame jade :P
22:17.10Kuekendamn, who coded steam?
22:17.18AlphA_VsT?
22:17.18Kuekensteam update -> pc dead
22:17.22AlphA_VsTlol
22:17.23________________lol
22:17.56AlphA_VsTnayways back to my mutation thingy
22:18.31flyingspatulakueken ur refering to if i *pick every playe rin player grp right?
22:18.37RipperRooX_____________ no answere ? :D
22:18.37Kuekenyes
22:18.42flyingspatulak
22:19.25________________?
22:20.45AhliI though at image files from scbw when I read "grp". It took my a short while to realize that you meant "group". o0
22:21.01JademusSregHm.
22:23.10Kuekenbtw jade
22:23.26Kuekenyou said earlier that missiles are updated at 0.03125
22:23.37JademusSregNaw. Missile visuals.
22:23.41JademusSregNot their actual positions.
22:23.46Kuekenok
22:23.49flyingspatuladoes /w not work in here?
22:23.52Kuekenhow do you know?
22:24.07Kuekentry /msg, I believe
22:24.07JademusSregBecause I read and test. =D
22:24.10flyingspatulaah lol
22:24.20Kueken:p
22:24.34KuekenI'd like the source and a way to test, if possible :D
22:25.05Kuekencannot think of a way to test this reliably at the top off my head
22:25.11JademusSregIt would be pretty difficult to test the former, yes.
22:25.33flyingspatulafail pm my ass
22:25.34flyingspatulalol
22:25.38Ahlimake a replay where you move something around as fast as possible with trigger. double replay speed
22:25.40JademusSregBut Blizzard states as much in the missile mover tutorial.
22:25.47Kuekenoh?
22:26.00Kuekeninteresting, must have missed that
22:26.02JademusSregThe missile visuals are updated in 1/32 gt, while actual missile unit position is updated in 1/16 gt.
22:26.41KuekenI assumed, they would be updated like everything else at 1/16 and interpolated inbetween
22:28.57Kueken"The game part of the missile simulates twice per game loop and then pushes the data over to the actor side of the missile, which interpolates between the data it has on hand. In dire frame rate situations, it is possible for the actor side to fall behind, in which case the user sees missiles jump. "
22:28.58JademusSregThat would be sensible, but missile movers allow for some fairly complex movement, a lot of which would be lost from interpolation.
22:29.44Kuekendo I misunderstand this, or is this actually the physical missile updating at 32 fps and the visuals at 16?
22:30.49AlphA_VsTpretty much
22:31.29JademusSregClarify?
22:31.59Kuekenwell, my interpretation of this sentence would be the opposite of your statement
22:32.47Kuekenyou say visuals at 32, unit/physical missile at 16
22:33.00Kuekenfor me, this sounds the other way around
22:33.31Kuekenjust want to know, if my interpretation is flawed
22:33.40JademusSregYes.
22:34.00Kuekenenlighten me :)
22:36.17JademusSregSimulates twice per game loop, assuming game loop here is intended to mean 1/16 game second, it simulates the position twice, giving it an effective update rate of 1/32.
22:37.13________________lol, i auto casted load/unload for a medivac and it made a tank look like it was floating in air
22:37.54Ahli_____________, u just invented the sc2 tractor beam
22:38.01________________lol wooooo
22:39.16AlphA_VsTyay
22:39.54Kuekenyes, jade
22:40.10Kuekenand this is talking about the physical missile object
22:40.17Kuekenas far as I am aware
22:40.23Kuekenthus proving my point
22:40.35JademusSreg"Physical" doesn't make much sense, given the content.
22:41.20JademusSregSo given the ambiguity, one may be inclined to interpret it as "the physical representation of the missile" (the actor visuals) or "the physical position of the missile unit".
22:41.22Ahlicalc stuff, update actor, calc stuff for future, sleep, update actor, sleep, repeat?
22:42.19Kueken:)
22:42.45KuekenI used "physical" in this context for anything but visuals
22:42.51Kuekenso the position of the unit
22:43.41JademusSregSince it's ambiguous, it lends itself to either interpretation.
22:43.53JademusSregBut ask yourself which makes more sense.
22:44.20JademusSregUpdating a unit position 32 times per game second? Nope, I can prove that wrong easily.
22:44.48KuekenI would go for the unit, it doesn't really matter, if the visuals are a little off
22:45.34Kuekenthey even stated, that, depending on fps, the actor can stay behind notably and then jump forward
22:46.04JademusSregI can demonstrate that missile positions are updated exactly 16 times per game second by giving a missile a behavior for collision, and firing it over a column of valid targets. =D
22:46.25Ahli1. make fast projectile, 2. get high speed camera, 3. record, 4. check out if the position changes 16 or 32 on the screen.
22:46.28Kuekenthats because behaviors cannot update faster than 16 times a sec ;)
22:46.35JademusSregI've already done that, Ahli. =D
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22:46.58JademusSregWith magical powers.
22:47.00Ahliand what's your empirical conclusion?
22:47.16Kuekenhigh speed camera wont work
22:47.25JademusSregI empirical conclusion is that this discussion is silly. =D
22:47.29JademusSreg*My
22:47.30JademusSregHaha
22:47.32Kuekensince it just interpolates and can use 120 fps for that ^^
22:47.51Ahlitest on slowest game speed and count >_>
22:48.16Kuekenwell, we could check with a trigger, which can actually update at 32 fps :D
22:48.33KuekenI agree, the discussion might be pointless
22:48.35JademusSregBut you can't get unit position.
22:48.44JademusSregUnit position updates at 1/16 too.
22:48.46JademusSreg=D
22:48.50Ahlibut u must disassemble the engine!
22:48.54JademusSregHaha
22:49.01Ahlito write a better one
22:49.34JademusSregI am reminded of the battle of Thermopylae.
22:49.43Kuekenyeah unit positions, maybe missile unit positions are handled differently :D
22:49.57AhliI'm using units as missiles >_>
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22:50.44huggeHello guys. Anyone happen to be awake? :)
22:50.55KuekenJade is
22:50.58Kuekenif he said so
22:52.01JademusSreg(Nope. zzz)
22:52.09huggeI need some help, but i dont really know how big or complicated the project is i want to accomplish is. Seeing as my experience in the sc2 editor is limited to like 2 hours of work.
22:53.16huggeI want to take already established maps, change loading-screens, tips, helpfile and perhaps implement a few changes in the texture to suit a tournament map-pool
22:53.43JademusSregSounds like you need the permission of the map creators.
22:54.39huggeWell. Im not changing the maps in that fashion, just changing loadingscreens to something more practical for a tournament. Like MLG for example.
22:54.43Kuekenit would certainly be helpful xD
22:54.44equinox1911jade is right, but ur task isn't tjat complicated
22:54.55equinox1911that
22:54.59huggeTSL and IEM has this aswell.
22:55.00JademusSregThe effort involved is trivial, yes.
22:55.27Kuekenonce you have your permissions and actually get them
22:55.31JademusSregIf these are Blizzard melee maps, there's no issue.
22:55.45JademusSregIf not, you need to contact the map creators.
22:55.55Kuekenotherwise you need to hack the maps, which increases the workload by a whooping 10 seconds :/
22:56.05equinox1911heh
22:56.10huggeSeems fair, a few of them is blizzards.
22:56.16huggeAnd a few is ESV
22:57.19equinox1911for the lscreen you just need to make ur own and make .tga
22:57.22equinox1911import
22:57.25JademusSregbbl
22:57.27equinox1911and done ^^
22:57.38huggeYeah. Ive come that far. and its np
22:57.47huggeFor example, i have pulled up the Taldarim
22:58.38huggeBut under the tab "map info" its all empty, nothing in the fields.
22:58.56huggewhere credits and the description should be, shouldnt that be imported aswell?
22:59.27Kuekenthats probably a language version conflict
23:00.12huggeempty on all locales
23:00.22huggeor well, on the enUS it had a name atleast :)
23:01.45huggeand also, which option is what control what the name will be when published on bnet?
23:02.00equinox1911. . .
23:06.32flyingspatulaso weird, even with running my loop this way, my framerate still drops automatically by 20 the second i host it on bnet
23:09.38AlphA_VsTlol
23:09.53flyingspatulai fixed it so nvm
23:10.43AlphA_VsThmmm i think i might work on my text game some if i remember what i was doing with it :P
23:12.59flyingspatulalol
23:13.09AlphA_VsTdon't make fun of it :p
23:13.13Bountycharting a song
23:13.16Bountyis HARD
23:13.16Bountyas
23:13.17BountyFUCK
23:13.23flyingspatulalol
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23:13.35flyingspatulai dunno how ur gonna fix the O SHIT SOMEONE LAGGED AND FUCKED UP SONG
23:13.51flyingspatulabtw bounty. OMG THAT TOTALLYF IXED EVERYTHING
23:13.55flyingspatulaxcept my shitty ground flickering ofc
23:14.01flyingspatulabut fixed the framerate and the shitty camera
23:14.04flyingspatula<3 u long teim
23:14.12AlphA_VsTlol
23:14.36AlphA_VsTfuck that nm
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23:15.03Bounty><
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23:18.37Bountyive had to listen to the first 40 seconds of this song
23:18.39Bountylike 100 times
23:28.09Bountyi need to hurry up and get drinkin or something
23:28.13Bountythis shit
23:28.13Bountyman
23:28.19Bountythis is why nobody has made a music gmae
23:28.20Bountylol
23:32.14AlphA_VsThahahahah
23:33.01Bountydfadsf]
23:33.01Bounty;ojdsf;dsjfasd
23:33.02Bountyf;kajds
23:33.03Bountyfuicking
23:33.08Bountyim starting to hate thie song onw
23:33.19Bountyis there like a program or something
23:33.24Bountythat lets u view it so u can chart it
23:33.31Bountyim doing this with fucking windows media player
23:35.40QueenGlike a boss bounty ;)
23:37.01Bountyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFqBTSvBPAU
23:37.04Bountyyou have any idea how many times
23:37.14Bountyive heard that girl moan
23:37.16Bountyat 0:19
23:37.22Bountyi feel like i know her now
23:38.10QueenGgross
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23:38.20Bountylol
23:38.33Bountyhow is that gross
23:38.39Bountyits in the song
23:39.08Bountyoooh
23:39.09Bountywait
23:39.18Bountyi think she thought i was saying i was fappign to her or something?
23:39.23Bountywhoops
23:39.57Kuekeneven if you would, w/e?
23:40.12Bounty*shrug* i was just saying
23:40.16Bountyive had to listen to the first 40 seconds
23:40.20Bountyover and over and over and over
23:40.26Bountythats how far i am
23:40.27Bountylol
23:40.57Kuekenwell, seh doesn't hear you, so you can save the explanation :D
23:43.08Bountyoh well
23:43.10Bountylol
23:47.44________________hmm, didnt notice how laagy data & triggers talking back and forth could get
23:48.37Ahlieffects that u execute in triggers are executed instantly.
23:49.00________________its not like that
23:49.21________________its like behaviors and orders interating information to data or triggers back and forth
23:49.24________________a um
23:49.25Kuekendo you use CatalogFieldValueSet at 32 fps? ;)
23:49.33________________ai system for perfectly dropping tanks from medivacs
23:53.58Ahlilike this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0EYH-csTttw#t=23s
23:59.52________________beast, time to youtube the system

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