IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20120318

`00:30.44`	`Bounty`	`Nom Nom`
`00:34.21`	`JademusSreg`	`Ka-pew.`
`00:34.31`	`Bounty`	`sup`
`00:34.44`	`JademusSreg`	`Working on my dialog utilities.`
`00:39.02`	`Bounty`	`word`
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`01:27.48`	`Bounty`	`20 hours played`
`01:27.50`	`Bounty`	`mwahaha`
`01:36.08`	`JademusSreg`	`Congrats/`
`01:39.54`	`Bounty`	`the rounds + multiple layouts helped`
`02:11.39`	`flyingspatula`	`g`
`02:27.31`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Mexa (504ed854@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.78.216.84)`
`02:30.47`	`Bounty`	`JademusSreg`
`02:30.58`	`Bounty`	`test in a few minutes? im fixing the arrow placement :)`
`02:39.47`	`Parthon`	`test test test test test?`
`02:40.09`	`*** part/#sc2mapster Ahli (~casdasdqq@dslb-092-073-223-144.pools.arcor-ip.net)`
`02:45.21`	`JademusSreg`	`Busy.`
`02:45.26`	`JademusSreg`	`I'll let you know when I'm free.`
`02:47.33`	`Bounty`	`already tested it JademusSreg`
`02:47.49`	`Bounty`	`the way it works now is you can reset the arrow you just placed forever as long as u dont move the mouse off of that spot`
`02:47.54`	`Bounty`	`and you cant overlap enemy arrows anymore`
`02:50.42`	`Parthon`	`hax :P`
`03:12.36`	`*** join/#sc2mapster JamesObscura (~James@ip70-185-182-134.sb.sd.cox.net)`
`03:12.55`	`Bounty`	`You there Sixen?`
`03:12.56`	`flyingspatula`	`does obscura mean dark cave`
`03:13.06`	`flyingspatula`	`or just darkness actually`
`03:33.47`	`Parthon`	`normally it means that which obscures`
`03:34.13`	`Parthon`	`oh wait, no it means darkened room or chamber`
`03:34.45`	`Parthon`	`blah`
`03:34.46`	`Parthon`	`I'm tried`
`03:34.51`	`Parthon`	`obscura just means dark`
`03:35.07`	`Parthon`	`camera obscura means darkened room or chamber`
`03:35.20`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Mexa- (504ed854@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.78.216.84)`
`03:44.07`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Mexa (504ed854@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.78.216.84)`
`03:44.11`	`Mexa`	`bah`
`03:46.57`	`JademusSreg`	`?`
`03:49.09`	`Mexa`	`webchat issues ._.`
`03:55.39`	`JademusSreg`	`So it would appear.`
`04:06.14`	`*** join/#sc2mapster avogatro (~avogatro@nat-wh-hadi.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de)`
`04:27.13`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Siretu (55e2f46c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.226.244.108)`
`04:29.57`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Bounty (442ccc3b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.44.204.59)`
`04:30.02`	`Bounty`	`Hay Guyz`
`04:31.08`	`Deaod`	`youre either awfully early or awfully late`
`04:31.09`	`Bounty`	`JademusSreg, you there? :)`
`04:31.36`	`Bounty`	`me? why? what?`
`04:31.46`	`Deaod`	`its 5AM`
`04:32.00`	`Bounty`	`yeah... in your region`
`04:32.06`	`Bounty`	`its only 12:30AM here`
`04:32.24`	`Deaod`	`EDT?`
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`04:32.26`	`Deaod`	`hm`
`04:32.29`	`Bounty`	`EST`
`04:32.44`	`Deaod`	`EST is 6 hours behind my zone`
`04:33.10`	`Deaod`	`you already have DST, right?`
`04:33.20`	`Bounty`	`no idea what that is`
`04:33.31`	`Deaod`	`nvm.`
`04:33.37`	`Bounty`	`oh`
`04:33.42`	`Bounty`	`daylight savings time`
`04:33.45`	`Bounty`	`yes`
`04:33.55`	`Bounty`	`we just set our clocks forward not to long ago`
`05:02.09`	`Bounty`	`So i've noticed something with bnet players`
`05:02.15`	`Bounty`	`They are WAY to competitive`
`05:02.29`	`Bounty`	`People are actually fucking "RAGE QUITTING" Ling Ling Rocket!`
`05:02.37`	`Bounty`	`a game purely based around fun`
`05:03.18`	`JademusSreg`	`Pew pew`
`05:03.36`	`JademusSreg`	`I need a smoke and more booze. brb`
`05:09.01`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Parthon (~cheeeese@godsta.arach.net.au)`
`05:10.59`	`JademusSreg`	`Another big storm here. Woo.`
`05:11.15`	`JademusSreg`	`So there's a chance my power will go out.`
`05:13.36`	`Bounty`	`Can you be the one to explain that to me JademusSreg`
`05:13.43`	`Bounty`	`How can someone rage quit Ling Ling Rocket`
`05:13.44`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`05:14.14`	`Bounty`	`I just had two new players rage quit because they got hit with colossus`
`05:14.17`	`JademusSreg`	`The player wants to kill someone messing with his precious arrangement of arrows.`
`05:14.33`	`Bounty`	`like i dont understand`
`05:14.37`	`Bounty`	`people either rage quit`
`05:14.43`	`Bounty`	`or they are like "lol darn"`
`05:14.44`	`Bounty`	`and move on`
`05:14.50`	`Bounty`	`like a normal person`
`05:17.02`	`JademusSreg`	`Normal people also rage quit. Normal is pretty broad. By which I mean useless.`
`05:17.23`	`Bounty`	`ok`
`05:17.25`	`Bounty`	`Rational`
`05:17.29`	`Bounty`	`a rational person`
`05:17.54`	`Bounty`	`i really just dont get it`
`05:18.29`	`Bounty`	`and i can guarantee you it will be the #1 reason the map wont be popular lol`
`05:19.23`	`JademusSreg`	`In that case, a rage quit is a heuristic assessment of a set of circumstances that are too expensive to evaluate on an individual basis, in response to a minimum threshold for judgment inputs. =D`
`05:19.39`	`Bounty`	`no idea what you just said`
`05:19.41`	`Bounty`	`as usual`
`05:20.20`	`Bounty`	`well`
`05:20.37`	`Bounty`	`ive done everything you've said with the exception of randomly generated levels Jade`
`05:20.42`	`Bounty`	`now lets see what happens`
`05:20.45`	`Bounty`	`><`
`05:21.23`	`JademusSreg`	`What happens is that within a few months, it will be on page 2 of the Custom filtered map list.`
`05:21.32`	`Bounty`	`LOL`
`05:21.33`	`Bounty`	`ok`
`05:21.46`	`Bounty`	`maps dont get popular within a few months after their release`
`05:21.52`	`Bounty`	`its the first week or two`
`05:28.21`	`JademusSreg`	`That doesn't make sense. Photon Cycles climbed its way to a position on the Custom list second page over a span of some number of months.`
`05:28.31`	`Bounty`	`bs`
`05:28.38`	`Bounty`	`it got popular pretty fast`
`05:28.40`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`05:28.45`	`Bounty`	`didnt take months`
`05:29.26`	`*** join/#sc2mapster xKenneth (181293fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.18.147.254)`
`05:30.08`	`JademusSreg`	`If you measure success as the number of units you ship in the first week, you miss out on Psychonauts and other cult hits that gather a following over time. The First Week is not the final say in the matter.`
`05:30.58`	`Bounty`	`well that doesnt matter with pop system`
`05:31.06`	`Bounty`	`you need momentum`
`05:32.05`	`JademusSreg`	`How does it not matter? Plenty of maps crawl their way up, not just mine.`
`05:32.27`	`Bounty`	`well this is just one of many things we disagree on lol`
`05:32.31`	`Bounty`	`i guess we'll see`
`05:32.39`	`Bounty`	`Lose/Lose for me`
`05:32.40`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`05:33.16`	`Bounty`	`in that if it hits page 2 over the course of a few monthsi lose this arguement`
`05:33.30`	`Bounty`	`and if it doesnt then i have another failed map :)`
`05:34.05`	`JademusSreg`	`Naw, opinions are worthless. Either you have informed speculation you can support with evidence or a reasonable argument, or you have nothing. (Which is why I have such disdain for "political" discussions.)`
`05:36.34`	`Bounty`	`That is wrong in so many ways lol`
`05:37.02`	`Bounty`	`It is more than possible for an opinion to actually turn out to be more true than a speculation supported with some evidence`
`05:37.42`	`Bounty`	`Unless you have years of researched evidence`
`05:37.46`	`Bounty`	`Or something extreme`
`05:39.54`	`JademusSreg`	`Methodology is important; a self-proclaimed prophet's prognostications are right to be met with incredulity when when they happen, by chance, to be accurate in any given instance. Even a random string generator will eventually, given sufficient time, output the complete works of English literature, but that doesn't make it art.`
`05:40.58`	`Bounty`	`Yeah but i wouldnt call an opinion worthless`
`05:41.02`	`JademusSreg`	`The method by which one obtains one's answers matters, perhaps more than the answers themselves.`
`05:41.14`	`JademusSreg`	`I would. And I did. =D`
`05:41.24`	`Bounty`	`Well thats just silly`
`05:41.33`	`Bounty`	`You silly goose`
`05:41.37`	`JademusSreg`	`Honk`
`05:42.04`	`*** join/#sc2mapster SoulTaker916_ (~SoulTaker@108-88-97-1.lightspeed.mtryca.sbcglobal.net)`
`05:42.16`	`SoulTaker916_`	`anyone know a good dds converter?`
`05:42.29`	`JademusSreg`	`Nvidia plugin for 32-bit Photonshop.`
`05:42.32`	`JademusSreg`	`*Photoshop`
`05:42.36`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Bounty_ (442ccc3b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.44.204.59)`
`05:42.40`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i dont have photoshop`
`05:42.44`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i should get it tho`
`05:42.45`	`Bounty_`	`Do you speak exactly the same way you do in this IRC in Real life JademusSreg?`
`05:42.46`	`JademusSreg`	`GIMP.`
`05:42.51`	`SoulTaker916_`	`TY`
`05:42.52`	`Bounty_`	`I have always been curious of that`
`05:42.55`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes, Bounty.`
`05:43.01`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i should have thought of gimp`
`05:43.18`	`Bounty_`	`Do you have many friends?`
`05:43.20`	`Bounty_`	`lol`
`05:43.32`	`SoulTaker916_`	`burn`
`05:43.33`	`JademusSreg`	`(With the exception that I do not refer to people's names in the course of conversation.)`
`05:43.38`	`Bounty_`	`Not that i have tons, just an honest question`
`05:44.02`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i hate to say it but programmers make the worst friends`
`05:44.04`	`SoulTaker916_`	`period`
`05:44.07`	`Bounty_`	`I personally think you're a cool cat but`
`05:44.16`	`Bounty_`	`I can see why most people would exile you`
`05:44.34`	`SoulTaker916_`	`hey hes married with kids`
`05:44.39`	`SoulTaker916_`	`so... cant be that uncool right?`
`05:45.30`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Bounty__ (442ccc3b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.44.204.59)`
`05:45.32`	`Bounty__`	`wtf i keep getting kicked, anyways`
`05:45.44`	`Bounty__`	`look there are 3 bounties`
`05:45.46`	`Bounty__`	`lol`
`05:45.47`	`Bounty__`	`but yeah`
`05:45.57`	`Bounty__`	`Having friends does not make you a better person`
`05:46.00`	`Bounty__`	`so its not an insult to him`
`05:46.15`	`Bounty__`	`I have a wifey and two kids, zero friends`
`05:46.34`	`Bounty__`	`well maybe 2`
`05:46.36`	`Bounty__`	`but meh`
`05:46.42`	`Bounty__`	`who has time for friendship?`
`05:47.14`	`Bounty__`	`Make sense SoulTaker916_?`
`05:48.05`	`SoulTaker916_`	`sounds`
`05:48.09`	`SoulTaker916_`	`like ur rationalizing`
`05:48.27`	`SoulTaker916_`	`but im no phycratrist`
`05:48.44`	`Bounty__`	`Just trying to make sure my question to JademusSreg did not come off as an insult`
`05:48.45`	`JademusSreg`	`"Sounds like you have cancer, but I'm not doctor."`
`05:49.09`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Parthon (~cheeeese@godsta.arach.net.au)`
`05:49.20`	`Bounty__`	`I think after you get out of high school you start to realize your friend count does not make you a better person lol`
`05:49.22`	`SoulTaker916_`	`well he asked me, and i gave an oppionion and then noted its not a professional one and to not take it that seriously`
`05:49.27`	`SoulTaker916_`	`come on, read into it`
`05:49.28`	`SoulTaker916_`	`abit`
`05:49.39`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha`
`05:49.47`	`Bounty__`	`Btw`
`05:49.52`	`JademusSreg`	`See what I mean?`
`05:49.54`	`JademusSreg`	`brb`
`05:49.59`	`Bounty__`	`How funny would it be if JademusSreg has like a Super Model Wife`
`05:50.11`	`Bounty__`	`><`
`05:52.08`	`SoulTaker916_`	`jade`
`05:52.11`	`SoulTaker916_`	`im using gimp`
`05:52.18`	`SoulTaker916_`	`but it doesnt support dds?`
`05:56.11`	`JademusSreg`	`I'm sure there's something you can download for it, some plugin or another.`
`05:56.47`	`Bounty__`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhnHt_7IR9Y`
`05:59.30`	`SoulTaker916_`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMGVMtnxXEw`
`06:01.29`	`Bounty__`	`The best/Most underrated video game music of all time`
`06:01.33`	`Bounty__`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Xn4qSyHTe8`
`06:01.38`	`Bounty__`	`sooo good`
`06:01.49`	`SoulTaker916_`	`u check mine out?`
`06:01.55`	`Bounty__`	`yeah`
`06:01.58`	`Bounty__`	`bloodhound gang`
`06:01.58`	`Bounty__`	`lol`
`06:03.09`	`SoulTaker916_`	`shit all my stuff is crasshing`
`06:10.28`	`flyingspatula`	`FML`
`06:10.33`	`flyingspatula`	`even Zergling Hunt is taken`
`06:10.48`	`SoulTaker916_`	`lol u know`
`06:10.57`	`SoulTaker916_`	`theres a auto convert features`
`06:11.10`	`SoulTaker916_`	`any old sc1 map can be converted to a sc2 map`
`06:13.53`	`flyingspatula`	`wtf theres not even a map called Zergling Hunt`
`06:13.55`	`flyingspatula`	`why cant i use it`
`06:14.08`	`SoulTaker916_`	`??`
`06:15.08`	`flyingspatula`	`asshats steal map names and never even publish the maps public`
`06:15.12`	`flyingspatula`	`so im fucked`
`06:15.48`	`SoulTaker916_`	`they can only publish soo many`
`06:15.54`	`flyingspatula`	`true`
`06:16.06`	`flyingspatula`	`but seems like every map name i need`
`06:16.07`	`flyingspatula`	`is taken`
`06:16.07`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and thers only so many ass hates`
`06:16.12`	`flyingspatula`	`but none are even public`
`06:17.15`	`xKenneth`	`How about Zergling Scour`
`06:17.18`	`xKenneth`	`or Zergling Pursuit`
`06:17.38`	`flyingspatula`	`none of those really match qwhat the map is about :/`
`06:17.56`	`JademusSreg`	`Where's Infested Waldo?`
`06:18.01`	`flyingspatula`	`there we go`
`06:18.08`	`SoulTaker916_`	`LOL`
`06:18.29`	`SoulTaker916_`	`that is going to be the name of my next game`
`06:21.39`	`flyingspatula`	`a map that hasnt even been published publically and not updated in long time should forfeit its name. no reason to have a map name that has been long abandoned grrr`
`06:22.01`	`Bounty__`	`AYO`
`06:22.07`	`Bounty__`	`YOU TALKIN BOUT ME SON?`
`06:22.11`	`flyingspatula`	`loool`
`06:22.19`	`Bounty__`	`YOU FEELIN FROGGY?`
`06:22.19`	`flyingspatula`	`what namesu been stealin`
`06:22.29`	`Bounty__`	`idk`
`06:22.35`	`Bounty__`	`i dont steal names`
`06:22.36`	`flyingspatula`	`let me have Doodad Hunt 2`
`06:22.37`	`flyingspatula`	`lol`
`06:22.40`	`flyingspatula`	`problem solved`
`06:22.51`	`Bounty__`	`you can have it but if its not by me people will prolly know`
`06:23.00`	`flyingspatula`	`actually Zergling Hunt more appropriately fits mine`
`06:23.08`	`flyingspatula`	`true`
`06:23.09`	`Bounty__`	`considering i already made a bunch of videos on the development of doodad hunt 2`
`06:23.12`	`flyingspatula`	`lol`
`06:23.15`	`Bounty__`	`thats waht ppl are expecting`
`06:23.15`	`flyingspatula`	`yeah`
`06:23.16`	`flyingspatula`	`meh`
`06:23.18`	`Bounty__`	`lol`
`06:23.25`	`flyingspatula`	`yeah mines a bit different`
`06:23.37`	`flyingspatula`	`same concept but still different`
`06:23.53`	`Bounty__`	`Well i hope you know that Hide and Seek cant work if its not third person`
`06:24.01`	`Bounty__`	`Doodad Hunt wise`
`06:24.04`	`flyingspatula`	`lol`
`06:24.08`	`flyingspatula`	`i already got my third person working`
`06:24.20`	`Bounty__`	`thataboy`
`06:24.22`	`flyingspatula`	`lol`
`06:24.26`	`flyingspatula`	`kinda ninjad jades`
`06:24.31`	`flyingspatula`	`the basic mechanics of it anyway`
`06:24.41`	`Bounty__`	`honestly`
`06:24.44`	`Bounty__`	`who gives a shit anymore`
`06:24.47`	`flyingspatula`	`lol`
`06:24.48`	`Bounty__`	`lol`
`06:24.56`	`flyingspatula`	`my main prob is the FOOKING MAP NAME`
`06:24.59`	`Bounty__`	`i think we all know that map making will lead you no where`
`06:25.03`	`flyingspatula`	`i want Zergling Hunt`
`06:25.04`	`Bounty__`	`its just a hobby at this point`
`06:25.07`	`flyingspatula`	`true`
`06:25.07`	`flyingspatula`	`lol`
`06:25.09`	`Bounty__`	`that leads to nothing`
`06:25.15`	`Bounty__`	`at thi spoint`
`06:25.18`	`Bounty__`	`its like building models`
`06:25.22`	`Bounty__`	`fucking useless talent`
`06:25.25`	`flyingspatula`	`lol`
`06:25.25`	`Bounty__`	`lol`
`06:25.51`	`Bounty__`	`I couldnt even get hired at Gamestop`
`06:25.57`	`flyingspatula`	`lol`
`06:26.02`	`flyingspatula`	`they only hire retards`
`06:26.04`	`Bounty__`	`after telling the guy when he asked me what i do in my spare time`
`06:26.11`	`Bounty__`	`i told im i make mods/custom games`
`06:26.17`	`Bounty__`	`hes like`
`06:26.20`	`Bounty__`	`oh`
`06:26.22`	`flyingspatula`	`lol`
`06:26.29`	`Bounty__`	`honestly`
`06:26.33`	`flyingspatula`	`they look for ppl who are complete retards about what they sell`
`06:26.46`	`Bounty__`	`The interview with the Gamestop District Manager was the most difficult interview i've ever had in my life`
`06:26.46`	`flyingspatula`	`and more about finding ppl hwo r good with strangers`
`06:26.48`	`Bounty__`	`EVER`
`06:26.52`	`flyingspatula`	`lol`
`06:26.55`	`Bounty__`	`and it was for 1-2 days a week minimum fucking wage`
`06:26.59`	`flyingspatula`	`yeah`
`06:27.01`	`Bounty__`	`People need to get fuckign real with this shit`
`06:27.09`	`Bounty__`	`Dont roast me if ur not offering me a real fucking job`
`06:27.10`	`Bounty__`	`lol`
`06:27.36`	`Bounty__`	`man`
`06:27.39`	`Bounty__`	`im getting all worked now up`
`06:27.43`	`Bounty__`	`up now`
`06:27.46`	`flyingspatula`	`lol`
`06:27.56`	`Bounty__`	`everytime i get into a conversation with you`
`06:27.58`	`Bounty__`	`it just`
`06:28.03`	`Bounty__`	`slowly i turn`
`06:28.07`	`flyingspatula`	`hah`
`06:29.18`	`Bounty__`	`I love how a map that has been inactive for months got newsed`
`06:29.20`	`Bounty__`	`instead of mine`
`06:29.23`	`Bounty__`	`which is new`
`06:30.38`	`flyingspatula`	`what map`
`06:30.41`	`flyingspatula`	`figures tho`
`06:30.46`	`Bounty__`	`Ling Ling Rocket!`
`06:30.53`	`Bounty__`	`and the amount of shit i've added`
`06:30.56`	`Bounty__`	`since it launched`
`06:31.01`	`Bounty__`	`prolly the most ive ever done`
`06:31.09`	`Bounty__`	`post launch for a map`
`06:31.13`	`Bounty__`	`in that period of time`
`06:31.46`	`flyingspatula`	`lol`
`06:31.58`	`flyingspatula`	`ive yet to finish amap yet`
`06:32.29`	`Bounty__`	`I would like to see JademusSreg finish a map`
`06:32.38`	`flyingspatula`	`lol`
`06:32.39`	`Bounty__`	`Photon Cycles is old`
`06:32.50`	`Bounty__`	`He should have more under his belt by now`
`06:33.01`	`JademusSreg`	`Polish counts.`
`06:33.12`	`Bounty__`	`Jade`
`06:33.21`	`Bounty__`	`SC2 has been out for over a year and you've released one map`
`06:33.27`	`Bounty__`	`that map did not take you that long`
`06:33.31`	`Bounty__`	`you should have more =P`
`06:33.33`	`JademusSreg`	`I've released a number, but only one of import.`
`06:33.35`	`Bounty__`	`DO EEEt`
`06:33.43`	`Bounty__`	`oh yeah`
`06:33.44`	`Bounty__`	`fuck`
`06:33.45`	`Bounty__`	`my bad`
`06:33.48`	`Bounty__`	`honestly though`
`06:33.49`	`Bounty__`	`imo?`
`06:33.57`	`Bounty__`	`Identifictionary was your best map`
`06:34.03`	`Bounty__`	`and should be #1 on the pop list`
`06:34.03`	`JademusSreg`	`Hah.`
`06:34.08`	`Bounty__`	`im not even kidding`
`06:34.12`	`Bounty__`	`that was the most fun ive ever had in my life`
`06:34.17`	`Bounty__`	`i broke my jaw from laughing`
`06:34.34`	`Bounty__`	`Drawing dicks attached to various creatures never gets old`
`06:35.22`	`flyingspatula`	`lol what`
`06:35.32`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Net_Creator (~Net_Creat@66.185.75.205)`
`06:35.33`	`Bounty__`	`the map is pictionary`
`06:35.37`	`Bounty__`	`but you get to name your drawing`
`06:35.41`	`Bounty__`	`and draw w/e u want`
`06:35.43`	`flyingspatula`	`oh`
`06:35.44`	`Bounty__`	`therefore`
`06:35.47`	`Bounty__`	`lots of dicks`
`06:35.50`	`flyingspatula`	`lololol`
`06:35.55`	`Bounty__`	`and it never gets old`
`06:35.57`	`Bounty__`	`it really doesnt`
`06:35.59`	`Bounty__`	`lol`
`06:36.16`	`Bounty__`	`I remember one time the person before me drew a teddy bear`
`06:36.25`	`Bounty__`	`so my picture was`
`06:36.30`	`Bounty__`	`a Teddy Bear Dick`
`06:36.33`	`Bounty__`	`lololol`
`06:36.56`	`flyingspatula`	`lolol`
`06:36.59`	`Bounty__`	`I'll be like 70 years old and i'll still find that funny`
`06:37.01`	`flyingspatula`	`ill have to try playing that`
`06:39.04`	`flyingspatula`	`fuck it, ill think of a name AFTER i finish this map`
`06:39.06`	`flyingspatula`	`whenevr that may be`
`06:39.19`	`Bounty__`	`yeah you should prolly finish the map first`
`06:39.20`	`Bounty__`	`lol`
`06:39.26`	`flyingspatula`	`i totally think making a zergling carry the doodad on its back then burrow in the ground to sit in place insteadof being the doodad`
`06:39.31`	`flyingspatula`	`is so much more clever for sc2`
`06:40.30`	`flyingspatula`	`i totally copied your jump thing lol`
`06:40.36`	`flyingspatula`	`using som eobjects as cliffs`
`06:40.41`	`flyingspatula`	`so it jumps on shit`
`06:46.37`	`Parthon`	`lol`
`06:46.52`	`Currydevil`	`grrr, trying to install a program, it defaults to install on the c: drive with no space, so I switch it to E once it tells me so, then it hangs up on the "no disk space" bs and won'`
`06:47.00`	`Currydevil`	`won't even try to install on E`
`06:48.53`	`Parthon`	`make some space?`
`06:49.00`	`Parthon`	`some prorams are badly written like tha`
`06:49.01`	`Parthon`	`that*`
`06:49.03`	`Currydevil`	`What's stupid is it doesn't even let me switch the installation path until it tries once.`
`06:53.59`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Dogmai (~chatzilla@124-169-44-120.dyn.iinet.net.au)`
`06:54.09`	`Dogmai`	`JademusSreg: oi`
`06:54.13`	`JademusSreg`	`Oi.`
`06:54.37`	`Dogmai`	`i was curious`
`06:54.52`	`Dogmai`	`was photon cycles the one that won the custom map comp back in 2010`
`06:55.22`	`JademusSreg`	`Not of which I am aware, if you're refering to that official Blizzard contest.`
`06:55.29`	`Dogmai`	`yea`
`06:55.33`	`Dogmai`	`there was a map photon something`
`06:55.40`	`Dogmai`	`i wasnt sure if it was yours or not`
`06:55.56`	`JademusSreg`	`Was it Sentry Scramble? I dunno, they had a vaguely similar aesthetic.`
`06:56.53`	`Dogmai`	`Photon Command`
`06:56.56`	`Dogmai`	`found it on google`
`06:56.59`	`JademusSreg`	`Ah.`
`06:57.08`	`Dogmai`	`cause I was gonna say`
`06:57.16`	`Dogmai`	`if you were that kid who stood up at blizzcon and bragged that you won`
`06:57.26`	`Dogmai`	`depsite that I like you`
`06:57.29`	`Dogmai`	`i was going to kill you`
`06:57.37`	`JademusSreg`	`I'd kill me too if I were that guy.`
`06:57.41`	`Dogmai`	`yea`
`06:57.49`	`Dogmai`	`that is all`
`06:57.56`	`Dogmai`	`i just came on irc cause i know where to find you`
`06:58.01`	`JademusSreg`	`Hah.`
`06:58.08`	`Dogmai`	`in hindsight`
`06:58.10`	`Dogmai`	`should have used skype`
`06:58.12`	`Dogmai`	`=\`
`06:58.18`	`JademusSreg`	`No worries.`
`06:58.23`	`Bounty__`	`Nom Nom`
`06:59.08`	`Bounty__`	`Dogmai`
`06:59.20`	`Bounty__`	`Do you have a link to a video of that happening? lol`
`06:59.24`	`Bounty__`	`The kid bragging that he won`
`07:01.08`	`flyingspatula`	`someone should make katamari damacy`
`07:01.10`	`flyingspatula`	`map`
`07:01.48`	`flyingspatula`	`could be done`
`07:02.10`	`JademusSreg`	`Good luck working out the attachments.`
`07:02.24`	`flyingspatula`	`haha`
`07:02.34`	`flyingspatula`	`i had alot of fun with that`
`07:02.36`	`flyingspatula`	`las nite`
`07:02.42`	`JademusSreg`	`brb`
`07:03.03`	`Dogmai`	`i can find it`
`07:03.06`	`Dogmai`	`give me a sec`
`07:05.11`	`Dogmai`	`im trying to find it`
`07:05.17`	`Dogmai`	`im fast forwarding through all the questions`
`07:06.17`	`Dogmai`	`i looking for the jewish kid`
`07:06.24`	`Dogmai`	`or at least he looks jewish from memory =\`
`07:06.48`	`Dogmai`	`lawl`
`07:06.50`	`Dogmai`	`RRowland`
`07:07.27`	`Bounty__`	`lolol`
`07:07.38`	`flyingspatula`	`whats the link`
`07:07.45`	`Dogmai`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6BiK58gBds`
`07:07.48`	`Dogmai`	`this is the one im going through`
`07:07.55`	`Dogmai`	`its not in number 4`
`07:07.57`	`Dogmai`	`im half way through this one (3)`
`07:08.15`	`Dogmai`	`i think i found him`
`07:08.21`	`Dogmai`	`10:30`
`07:08.24`	`Dogmai`	`in this video`
`07:08.25`	`Dogmai`	`the third one`
`07:08.37`	`Dogmai`	`hi i won the custom map contest`
`07:08.42`	`Dogmai`	`and i would like to know how many participated in the map contest`
`07:08.44`	`Dogmai`	`fucken asshole`
`07:08.46`	`Dogmai`	`-_-`
`07:09.21`	`flyingspatula`	`are all these guys nerds`
`07:09.22`	`flyingspatula`	`or what`
`07:10.16`	`Currydevil`	`lmao, "ok thanks"`
`07:11.33`	`Bounty__`	`wow what a douche`
`07:11.36`	`JademusSreg`	`Hah.`
`07:11.40`	`Bounty__`	`suc ha douche thye couldnt understand what he said`
`07:11.46`	`Dogmai`	`i would have been like "Give me the fucken mic" ... (who the fuck are you?) ... "im dogmai bitch" ... (oh .... (long silence ,,, ) ... hows tofu) ... "fuuuuuuuuuuuuu"`
`07:12.00`	`Bounty__`	`"How to what?"`
`07:12.01`	`Bounty__`	`rofl`
`07:12.22`	`Bounty__`	`man`
`07:12.34`	`Bounty__`	`i would give my left nut to beat that kid up`
`07:12.49`	`Dogmai`	`lol`
`07:12.49`	`Bounty__`	`he represents nerd douchery in its most perfect form`
`07:12.53`	`Dogmai`	`you know`
`07:12.59`	`JademusSreg`	`Over 500. No way half of those wre evaluated.`
`07:13.01`	`Dogmai`	`the work i did, like the tofu engine, for that comp`
`07:13.09`	`Dogmai`	`is way better than anything he did`
`07:13.11`	`JademusSreg`	`*were`
`07:13.15`	`Dogmai`	`it just didnt have more than 1 hero`
`07:13.17`	`Bounty__`	`Photon Command sucked`
`07:13.27`	`Dogmai`	`it was a mini game comp`
`07:13.34`	`Bounty__`	`like`
`07:13.38`	`Dogmai`	`it is impossible to make an amazing map in 1 month back then`
`07:13.45`	`Dogmai`	`was*`
`07:13.53`	`Dogmai`	`like now, we know the editor, we could do it`
`07:13.58`	`Dogmai`	`but back then we were all noobs`
`07:14.09`	`Bounty__`	`Congrats you won the contest that the winning criteria was "Has to be simple and dumbed down as fuck"`
`07:14.14`	`Dogmai`	`its like, i give u ferrari, u can keep it, if u can win the grand prie`
`07:14.19`	`Dogmai`	`...`
`07:14.43`	`Dogmai`	`well its obvious why he won then`
`07:14.51`	`Dogmai`	`just make a map after himself`
`07:15.35`	`Dogmai`	`oh btw guys`
`07:15.36`	`Dogmai`	`im so happy`
`07:15.41`	`Dogmai`	`im starting to plan my next big project`
`07:15.50`	`Dogmai`	`cause tofu is wrapping up`
`07:15.56`	`Bounty__`	`suuuure it is`
`07:15.57`	`Dogmai`	`like, getting released`
`07:16.00`	`JademusSreg`	`Cool.`
`07:16.03`	`Dogmai`	`seriously -_- ask dryeyece`
`07:16.06`	`Dogmai`	`he doesnt lie`
`07:16.09`	`Bounty__`	`nope`
`07:16.13`	`Bounty__`	`ill just wait for it to be on the list`
`07:16.14`	`Bounty__`	`lol`
`07:16.29`	`JademusSreg`	`Simultaneous release in all regions or what?`
`07:16.35`	`Dogmai`	`i bought some new toys`
`07:16.40`	`Dogmai`	`eu, na and sea`
`07:16.43`	`Dogmai`	`open beta`
`07:16.50`	`Dogmai`	`i havnt been able to get a tw/ko key yet`
`07:16.55`	`Dogmai`	`cause i cant buy them through the blizzard website`
`07:17.01`	`Bounty__`	`and i swear to god if at the end of the game right before it ends in victory/defeat it says "Impressed?" i will suplex you`
`07:17.08`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha.`
`07:17.14`	`Dogmai`	`suplex?`
`07:17.26`	`Dogmai`	`is that some kind of kinky foreplay`
`07:17.28`	`Dogmai`	`cause if it is`
`07:17.30`	`Bounty__`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpiqr3buI5k`
`07:17.30`	`Dogmai`	`ill add it in`
`07:17.37`	`Bounty__`	`there ya go`
`07:17.42`	`Bounty__`	`dem be suplex`
`07:17.56`	`Dogmai`	`so it is some kind of kinky foreplay`
`07:18.02`	`Dogmai`	`brb writing function`
`07:18.07`	`JademusSreg`	`Homoerotic, by the look of it.`
`07:18.18`	`JademusSreg`	`Which is fine, if that's your sort of thing.`
`07:19.01`	`Dogmai`	`shh... writing function must concentrate`
`07:19.09`	`JademusSreg`	`Always strikes me as odd how popular "professional wrestling" is in the southern United States.`
`07:19.11`	`Dogmai`	`its hard only got one hand ~~~ thinking of bounty suplexing me`
`07:19.16`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha.`
`07:19.20`	`Dogmai`	`lol`
`07:19.30`	`Dogmai`	`yea ... wrestling in general -_-`
`07:19.32`	`Dogmai`	`got no comment`
`07:19.37`	`Dogmai`	`we dont have it here`
`07:19.38`	`Bounty__`	`I really got nothing to say`
`07:19.41`	`Bounty__`	`For one time in my life`
`07:19.43`	`Bounty__`	`I got nothing`
`07:19.51`	`Dogmai`	`thats cause im not a two minute man`
`07:19.54`	`Dogmai`	`give me a few more hours`
`07:19.55`	`Bounty__`	`I mean it would put you on your ass`
`07:19.57`	`Dogmai`	`then you will have something`
`07:19.58`	`Bounty__`	`but at the same time`
`07:20.01`	`Bounty__`	`It is kinda gay`
`07:20.24`	`Dogmai`	`so what are you guys up to anyways`
`07:20.27`	`Dogmai`	`with your projects`
`07:20.32`	`Bounty__`	`Waiting for my map to be popular`
`07:20.36`	`Bounty__`	`Jade says Page 2`
`07:20.40`	`Dogmai`	`cause i know you guys arnt in here just waitin to flirt with me`
`07:20.41`	`Bounty__`	`I say Page ????`
`07:20.43`	`Dogmai`	`which server`
`07:20.46`	`Bounty__`	`US`
`07:20.49`	`Dogmai`	`name`
`07:20.55`	`Bounty__`	`Ling Ling Rocket!`
`07:21.03`	`JademusSreg`	`I've got some shit going on not prudent to discuss, but I am active.`
`07:21.20`	`Dogmai`	`like fixing a hacked map`
`07:21.25`	`Dogmai`	`or so i read`
`07:22.04`	`JademusSreg`	`Hah, no. I know what that guy is doing. Mexa, my EU mod, got the replays and that player is getting banned.`
`07:22.11`	`JademusSreg`	`But it's not a hack. Haha`
`07:22.30`	`Dogmai`	`ling ling rocket has 19 hours`
`07:22.37`	`Dogmai`	`i cant even find it`
`07:22.40`	`Dogmai`	`had to search`
`07:22.46`	`Dogmai`	`pop system has failed you`
`07:22.46`	`JademusSreg`	`That player just happened to be the first to exploit something that can't be solved with the current API.`
`07:22.57`	`Bounty__`	`I just released it about 32 hours ago Dogmai`
`07:22.59`	`Bounty__`	`lol`
`07:23.09`	`Dogmai`	`then you failed the pop system`
`07:23.11`	`Dogmai`	`:P`
`07:23.11`	`Bounty__`	`Not that it matters, i know it wont be popular ><`
`07:23.27`	`Bounty__`	`People who have tried it love it though`
`07:23.29`	`Dogmai`	`dryeyece wont let me msg husky till i finish tofu`
`07:23.32`	`Dogmai`	`im like fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu`
`07:23.34`	`Bounty__`	`has about a 95% positive response`
`07:23.40`	`Dogmai`	`sif he make me work`
`07:23.40`	`Bounty__`	`even from people who hate all of my maps`
`07:23.42`	`Bounty__`	`lol`
`07:24.19`	`JademusSreg`	`Which is...`
`07:26.45`	`Dogmai`	`i just played it`
`07:26.48`	`Dogmai`	`its a cool little custom`
`07:26.50`	`Dogmai`	`sucks with delay`
`07:26.54`	`flyingspatula`	`hey whats the diff between setting ur map Document type from Map to Mod?`
`07:26.56`	`Dogmai`	`you need higher resolution graphics though`
`07:26.56`	`Bounty__`	`Dogmai`
`07:27.00`	`Dogmai`	`it gives me a headach`
`07:27.05`	`Dogmai`	`on a 27" screen`
`07:27.05`	`Bounty__`	`You have the most delay of anyone on bnet`
`07:27.08`	`Bounty__`	`bc ur not from US`
`07:27.09`	`Bounty__`	`lol`
`07:27.16`	`Dogmai`	`i dont have delay on SEA`
`07:27.17`	`JademusSreg`	`A map can have terrain, a mod can be a dependency.`
`07:27.21`	`Dogmai`	`cause im on western australia`
`07:27.27`	`Dogmai`	`im closer to singapore than sydney`
`07:27.28`	`Bounty__`	`well ur the first one to say nething about delay`
`07:27.29`	`Bounty__`	`lol`
`07:27.34`	`Dogmai`	`yea ...`
`07:27.42`	`flyingspatula`	`so when would I set it to Mod`
`07:27.44`	`Dogmai`	`if i play tofu`
`07:27.47`	`Dogmai`	`ill probably play it on sea`
`07:27.59`	`Bounty__`	`mvoe to USA`
`07:28.02`	`Bounty__`	`derp`
`07:28.05`	`SoulTaker916_`	`hey with dialogs, can u box in an inmage`
`07:28.07`	`SoulTaker916_`	`not a button`
`07:28.10`	`SoulTaker916_`	`but just make lines`
`07:28.32`	`flyingspatula`	`nvm i understand jade`
`07:28.37`	`SoulTaker916_`	`dont try`
`07:29.08`	`Bounty__`	`Could you fucking imagine this happening? rofl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulepxNupVHo`
`07:29.12`	`Bounty__`	`So awkward`
`07:29.17`	`JademusSreg`	`Taker, you're using words, but what are you trying to say?`
`07:31.10`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i have a image`
`07:31.13`	`SoulTaker916_`	`that i want to box`
`07:31.16`	`SoulTaker916_`	`in dialog`
`07:31.21`	`SoulTaker916_`	`make it look nice`
`07:31.58`	`JademusSreg`	`You make an image beneath it, set its type to Border.`
`07:32.10`	`JademusSreg`	`And give it a texture that is formatted properly.`
`07:33.15`	`JademusSreg`	`Or over it if the fill section of texture is alpha'd out.`
`07:38.05`	`Dogmai`	`make another image beneath it just a bit larger`
`07:38.09`	`Dogmai`	`thats what i do`
`07:38.15`	`Dogmai`	`or edit in the border in photoshop`
`07:38.24`	`Dogmai`	`or create a custom one in photoshop with the middle set to alpha`
`07:38.25`	`JademusSreg`	`That too.`
`07:38.28`	`Dogmai`	`and put it over`
`07:38.29`	`JademusSreg`	`Depends on your needs.`
`07:38.32`	`Dogmai`	`there are many ways of doing it`
`07:38.40`	`Dogmai`	`i personally use a combination of all of em`
`07:38.45`	`Dogmai`	`depending on what i felt like at the time`
`07:38.46`	`Bounty__`	`ROFL`
`07:38.49`	`Bounty__`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMZxBut0JiU&feature=related`
`07:38.53`	`SoulTaker916_`	`DONT LOL`
`07:38.58`	`Bounty__`	`funniest 25 seconds of my life`
`07:39.03`	`SoulTaker916_`	`capitol lol PISSES ME OFF`
`07:39.07`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i got trilian`
`07:39.14`	`SoulTaker916_`	`makes a loud gay laughing nose`
`07:40.20`	`Dogmai`	`i bought my first tv`
`07:40.25`	`Dogmai`	`its wireless`
`07:40.29`	`Dogmai`	`hooked it up to my computer`
`07:40.31`	`Dogmai`	`stream movies`
`07:40.36`	`Dogmai`	`pretty epic`
`07:40.45`	`Dogmai`	`i didnt even know tvs came with that built in`
`07:42.37`	`JademusSreg`	`Nice.`
`07:44.14`	`Dogmai`	`fucken samsung though`
`07:44.19`	`Dogmai`	`they program they made is shit`
`07:44.24`	`Dogmai`	`crashes every few minutes`
`07:44.29`	`Dogmai`	`had to get a third party streaming manager`
`07:44.33`	`Dogmai`	`but after that, its pretty epic`
`07:44.41`	`Bounty__`	`i <3 Samsung`
`07:44.47`	`Bounty__`	`my monitor and my TV are samsung`
`07:44.49`	`Bounty__`	`=P`
`07:45.00`	`Dogmai`	`yea`
`07:45.07`	`Dogmai`	`I love samsung panels`
`07:45.14`	`Dogmai`	`but man, they fucked up on this one (the program)`
`07:45.25`	`Dogmai`	`2 years of ugh ... pissed off customers complaining`
`07:45.29`	`Dogmai`	`and they havnt done a single update`
`07:45.32`	`Dogmai`	`apparently its only windows 7`
`07:45.35`	`Dogmai`	`but still`
`07:45.51`	`Dogmai`	`i have two dell u2711 on my comp`
`07:45.57`	`Dogmai`	`they are pretty bloody nice`
`07:46.16`	`Dogmai`	`i had to get em cause samsung stop manufacturing their 27" IPS screens`
`07:46.27`	`Dogmai`	`but they might be a samsung panel, not usre`
`07:46.32`	`Dogmai`	`sure*`
`07:46.37`	`Dogmai`	`havnt taken em apart to have a look`
`07:47.48`	`SoulTaker916_`	`so i totatly got distracvted, jade, did u every have an answer?`
`07:47.53`	`SoulTaker916_`	`(lost chat)`
`07:48.18`	`JademusSreg`	`I see it up there, and your client hasn't closed during the interim.`
`07:48.31`	`JademusSreg`	`Is Trillian just that terrible?`
`07:48.48`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i turned off chat logging`
`07:48.54`	`SoulTaker916_`	`cause i dont want any chats logged`
`07:49.00`	`SoulTaker916_`	`so if i close the window`
`07:49.04`	`SoulTaker916_`	`it deletes chat`
`07:49.23`	`Dogmai`	`sif u got anything to hide`
`07:49.32`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its the whole cop thing that im parranoid about`
`07:50.17`	`Dogmai`	`truecrypt is your friend`
`07:50.27`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i hate that 2`
`07:50.34`	`SoulTaker916_`	`system encryption`
`07:50.35`	`SoulTaker916_`	`with key`
`07:50.40`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and keys for partitions`
`07:50.46`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and key files with those keys`
`07:50.50`	`SoulTaker916_`	`blah blah blah`
`07:50.56`	`JademusSreg`	`[03:31:58] <JademusSreg> You make an image beneath it, set its type to Border.`
`07:50.56`	`JademusSreg`	`[03:32:10] <JademusSreg> And give it a texture that is formatted properly.`
`07:50.56`	`JademusSreg`	`[03:33:15] <JademusSreg> Or over it if the fill section of texture is alpha'd out.`
`07:50.56`	`JademusSreg`	`[03:38:06] <Dogmai> make another image beneath it just a bit larger`
`07:50.56`	`JademusSreg`	`[03:38:09] <Dogmai> thats what i do`
`07:50.57`	`JademusSreg`	`[03:38:15] <Dogmai> or edit in the border in photoshop`
`07:50.57`	`JademusSreg`	`[03:38:25] <Dogmai> or create a custom one in photoshop with the middle set to alpha`
`07:50.57`	`JademusSreg`	`[03:38:25] <JademusSreg> That too.`
`07:50.58`	`JademusSreg`	`[03:38:28] <Dogmai> and put it over`
`07:50.58`	`JademusSreg`	`[03:38:29] <JademusSreg> Depends on your needs.`
`07:52.06`	`SoulTaker916_`	`wow i like it`
`07:52.07`	`SoulTaker916_`	`thanks`
`07:52.08`	`flyingspatula`	`wtf`
`07:52.09`	`flyingspatula`	`i swear`
`07:52.20`	`flyingspatula`	`every time i try to transfer triggers from one map to an empty map it always fucks up`
`07:52.37`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ok U GUYS BETTER STOP CALLING ME A TROLLER CAUSE SPATULA IS WAY WORSE`
`07:52.53`	`flyingspatula`	`lol`
`07:53.37`	`JademusSreg`	`Content matters. If what you say has value, you're welcome to be a dick about it. Crying over tone is for pansies.`
`07:54.38`	`Dogmai`	`im worst than everyone`
`07:54.43`	`Dogmai`	`and you dont see anyone giving my shit`
`07:54.45`	`Dogmai`	`me*`
`07:55.13`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Kueken (~Kueken@f055111003.adsl.alicedsl.de)`
`07:55.35`	`Kueken`	`Hello, my friends`
`07:55.42`	`Kueken`	`Stay a while, and listen`
`07:55.44`	`JademusSreg`	`Pew pew.`
`07:55.59`	`Kueken`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/25/430/Protoss-Terran.jpg`
`07:56.01`	`JademusSreg`	`Kueken is that narrator from Bastion, apparently.`
`07:56.14`	`Kueken`	`nah, I am deckard cain`
`07:56.16`	`Currydevil`	`Heh,`
`07:56.31`	`Currydevil`	`You have quite a treasure ...`
`07:56.51`	`flyingspatula`	`hm is there some kind of easy way to trasnfer my triggers/vars/etc form one map to another?`
`07:56.52`	`Kueken`	`the most annoying line in history -.-`
`07:57.01`	`flyingspatula`	`just triggers`
`07:57.14`	`Jum-Jum`	`you can export the triggers in the triggers editor`
`07:57.26`	`flyingspatula`	`without making it a library?`
`07:57.27`	`JademusSreg`	`Naw, "I am -sworn- to carry your burdens" is worse.`
`07:57.30`	`Jum-Jum`	`or just select them and ctrl-c, open another map, ctrl-v`
`07:57.33`	`Kueken`	`you can also mass-select and copy&paste`
`07:57.41`	`flyingspatula`	`LOL i hate that companion jade`
`07:57.50`	`SoulTaker916_`	`SON OF A FUCKING BITCH`
`07:57.53`	`flyingspatula`	`well when i copy paste it doesnt work`
`07:57.58`	`SoulTaker916_`	`DONT "LOL"`
`07:58.05`	`flyingspatula`	`half the triggers and functions dont paste properly`
`07:58.05`	`SoulTaker916_`	`the caps makes my ears hurt`
`07:58.23`	`JademusSreg`	`People will spam it to spite you now that they know. Bad reveal.`
`07:58.24`	`Jum-Jum`	`lllllllloooooooooooooooooollllllll`
`07:58.40`	`Jum-Jum`	`stuff`
`07:59.14`	`SoulTaker916_`	`w/e`
`07:59.18`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ill start muting people`
`08:00.08`	`Jum-Jum`	`:>`
`08:00.18`	`flyingspatula`	`wtf this is so frjustrating`
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`08:01.15`	`Kueken`	`I would like a comment`
`08:01.20`	`Kueken`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/25/430/Protoss-Terran.jpg`
`08:01.29`	`flyingspatula`	`craziness`
`08:01.31`	`flyingspatula`	`kueken`
`08:02.02`	`Kueken`	`the good kind of crazy or the bad one? :p`
`08:02.40`	`flyingspatula`	`the fuck, opened a can of diet coke cuz im a fag and drink diet. took a sip and went WTF this tastes like beer... looked at thecan... cuz it was -_-`
`08:02.42`	`flyingspatula`	`i need sleep`
`08:02.53`	`Bounty__`	`If you're on a commercial airplane and its going down, could you jump out with a parachute and survive?`
`08:03.22`	`flyingspatula`	`chances are your first class and jump out and get sucked into the jet engine`
`08:03.32`	`JademusSreg`	`Too many variables. Like altitude.`
`08:03.35`	`Bounty__`	`thats what i was thinking`
`08:03.40`	`Bounty__`	`with the engines`
`08:03.44`	`Bounty__`	`would you get sucked in?`
`08:03.45`	`Bounty__`	`lol`
`08:04.48`	`flyingspatula`	`they say ur mor elikely to die in a car crash than in a plane... but in a plane you know ur gonna die when its going down waiting for ur death. that andu have no control of the plane like u do a car.`
`08:05.07`	`Bounty__`	`Thats why i dont fly`
`08:05.15`	`Bounty__`	`I cant handle being that vulnerable`
`08:05.25`	`flyingspatula`	`lol`
`08:05.26`	`Bounty__`	`To much for me`
`08:05.37`	`flyingspatula`	`ive only flown commercial a few times`
`08:05.40`	`Jum-Jum`	`I dont like flying above water`
`08:05.42`	`Bounty__`	`I flew once and i never will again`
`08:05.52`	`Jum-Jum`	`like a sea`
`08:05.57`	`flyingspatula`	`but ive co-piloted quite a few private planes with my relatives`
`08:06.00`	`Bounty__`	`Flying and the Ocean are my biggest fears ><`
`08:06.03`	`Bounty__`	`i hate the ocean`
`08:06.24`	`Jum-Jum`	`I almost drowned so I'm not very fond of oceans :\|`
`08:06.37`	`flyingspatula`	`i flew an old plane used to spray crops. and i flew it under the hood without looking`
`08:06.38`	`Bounty__`	`I've never came close to drowning and i hate it`
`08:06.39`	`flyingspatula`	`that was hard`
`08:06.47`	`flyingspatula`	`im so bad with directions and altitudes`
`08:06.47`	`Bounty__`	`I can't swim`
`08:06.48`	`Bounty__`	`lol`
`08:06.52`	`flyingspatula`	`lol u cant swim`
`08:06.57`	`Bounty__`	`nope`
`08:07.01`	`flyingspatula`	`i can swim buyt`
`08:07.15`	`flyingspatula`	`last time i tried swimming i jumped in a lake and after 30 seocnds i was exhasuted`
`08:07.27`	`Jum-Jum`	`haha`
`08:07.56`	`Bounty__`	`I know thats how i'm going to die though`
`08:08.02`	`Bounty__`	`Either natural death`
`08:08.10`	`Bounty__`	`Or i'll drown in the ocean or airplane crash`
`08:08.11`	`flyingspatula`	`lmao`
`08:08.19`	`Bounty__`	`Just because i fear it so much`
`08:08.22`	`Bounty__`	`its going to happen`
`08:08.23`	`Bounty__`	`lol`
`08:08.25`	`flyingspatula`	`lol`
`08:08.38`	`flyingspatula`	`ill probably die from just being unhealthy`
`08:08.39`	`flyingspatula`	`when i get older`
`08:09.41`	`flyingspatula`	`hey jade what is this syncframetypelast`
`08:09.43`	`flyingspatula`	`bullshit`
`08:10.09`	`JademusSreg`	`Pro tip: It's easier to read complete sentences.`
`08:10.15`	`flyingspatula`	`agreed`
`08:10.22`	`flyingspatula`	`bad habit`
`08:10.23`	`flyingspatula`	`lol`
`08:10.37`	`Bounty__`	`i disagree`
`08:10.44`	`Bounty__`	`sometimes you cut the end of the sentence to build suspense`
`08:10.51`	`Bounty__`	`=P`
`08:11.02`	`flyingspatula`	`that sone way to think of it`
`08:11.14`	`Bounty__`	`Like if you're telling a joke`
`08:11.22`	`Bounty__`	`You dont type the punchline with the joke`
`08:11.26`	`Bounty__`	`You type the joke`
`08:11.28`	`Bounty__`	`wait`
`08:11.31`	`Bounty__`	`punchline`
`08:11.34`	`Bounty__`	`profit`
`08:11.59`	`JademusSreg`	`Punchlines tend to be separate sentences.`
`08:12.07`	`JademusSreg`	`Unless you're Rodney Dangerfield.`
`08:12.15`	`Bounty__`	`lol`
`08:14.16`	`flyingspatula`	`hey bounty, did u ever implement some kind of camera collision into terrain?`
`08:14.23`	`Bounty__`	`nope`
`08:14.26`	`flyingspatula`	`have a general idea how i could do it`
`08:14.26`	`flyingspatula`	`ah ok`
`08:15.12`	`flyingspatula`	`jade quic kmake a camera collision`
`08:15.18`	`flyingspatula`	`you have 2 minutes`
`08:16.11`	`JademusSreg`	`Naw, that shit is a pain.`
`08:16.16`	`flyingspatula`	`lol`
`08:16.22`	`flyingspatula`	`hm`
`08:18.03`	`flyingspatula`	`just figured ud check the height of whatever is directly under your camera point if u used some kind of right triangle to figure it all`
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`08:19.06`	`flyingspatula`	`i forget tan/atan crap`
`08:19.07`	`flyingspatula`	`i suck at math`
`08:19.15`	`flyingspatula`	`even tho thats easily geometry -_-`
`08:20.31`	`Bounty__`	`I just came up with the most unique custom map concept ever JademusSreg`
`08:20.58`	`flyingspatula`	`share so i can steal`
`08:21.50`	`Bounty__`	`Its called "Xtreme Forum Mod". 14 Players and one person is chosen to be the mod, it is the mods job to close threads created by the players that are "troll threads". Closing a thread that is not a troll thread awards the thread starters points and closing troll threads awards the mod points.`
`08:22.06`	`Bounty__`	`:)`
`08:22.49`	`flyingspatula`	`or make Pleasure Kerrigan from sc1!`
`08:22.56`	`Currydevil`	`lawl`
`08:23.03`	`flyingspatula`	`rub dat mineral pile`
`08:23.09`	`Bounty__`	`I think it would be fun`
`08:23.11`	`Bounty__`	`but thats just me`
`08:23.14`	`flyingspatula`	`XD`
`08:28.08`	`JademusSreg`	`Sleep time.`
`08:28.13`	`Bounty__`	`same`
`08:28.15`	`Bounty__`	`later dudes`
`08:41.06`	`Dogmai`	`finally calibrated both screens`
`08:41.12`	`Dogmai`	`such a pain in the ass =\`
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`08:58.15`	`Kueken`	`interesting`
`09:00.56`	`Kueken`	`trying to declare 507,643 variables causes a "Global data are too large" error`
`09:00.56`	`Kueken`	`trying to declare 507,644 causes a "Could not allocate memory (try to reduce size)" error instead`
`09:00.56`	`Kueken`	`while the maximum amount of allowed variable seems to be 507,131 variables, anything beyond that produces errors`
`09:01.49`	`Kueken`	`so there is a range of 512 variable declarations, which produce a different error message`
`09:04.47`	`Kueken`	`at least in gui, in galaxy, arrays seem to be able to get higher`
`09:19.48`	`Dogmai`	`why do you even need that many seriously`
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`10:41.47`	`Kueken`	`dogmai: just curious`
`10:42.09`	`Kueken`	`I don't even remotely come close to these numbers in an actual project`
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`10:47.13`	`Dogmai`	`indeed`
`10:47.36`	`Dogmai`	`its like dark bitching about the script limit, although I have never read his code`
`10:47.53`	`Dogmai`	`i find it quite hard to believe he hit the limit with perfectly optimized code`
`10:48.09`	`Dogmai`	`and yes, i know, he wrote all his own functions and did everything on his own etc etc`
`10:48.13`	`Dogmai`	`but that is just meh ...`
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`12:14.34`	`AlphA_VsT`	`rawr`
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`12:16.07`	`Stewox`	`hi`
`12:16.32`	`Molcih`	`hi all`
`12:19.25`	`AlphA_VsT`	`hi`
`12:21.16`	`Kueken`	`hi`
`12:23.10`	`AlphA_VsT`	`hi`
`12:23.12`	`Molcih`	`I want to make players have minerals for killing buildings... why wont this work:`
`12:23.15`	`Molcih`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:23.45`	`AlphA_VsT`	`is the unit in the unit group`
`12:23.46`	`AlphA_VsT`	`?`
`12:23.48`	`Molcih`	`Event is any unit dies`
`12:24.53`	`Molcih`	`Doesn't it say if the killed unit is a photon cannon, then give minerals`
`12:25.10`	`AlphA_VsT`	`oh I read that wrong`
`12:25.20`	`AlphA_VsT`	`why don't you just use unit type of unit`
`12:25.51`	`Molcih`	`type?`
`12:26.10`	`AlphA_VsT`	`uint type of unit == photon cannon`
`12:26.28`	`Molcih`	`where can I write that ? I havn't found such a function`
`12:26.44`	`AlphA_VsT`	`well look harder`
`12:26.58`	`A1win`	`Unit Type Of Unit`
`12:27.20`	`Molcih`	`can I replace the "(Photon Cannon units in (Entire map) owned by player Any Player matching Excluded: Missile, Dead, Hidden, with at most Any Amount)" with Unit Type of Unit?`
`12:27.27`	`A1win`	`yes`
`12:27.28`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yes`
`12:27.49`	`AlphA_VsT`	`thats really unneeded`
`12:28.06`	`Molcih`	`I can only find Unit Group: Find units :(`
`12:28.14`	`A1win`	`O_o`
`12:28.20`	`A1win`	`you're looking in the wrong place, then`
`12:28.23`	`A1win`	`use the search`
`12:28.24`	`AlphA_VsT`	`its a condition`
`12:28.24`	`Molcih`	`yeah must be`
`12:28.34`	`AlphA_VsT`	`goes in if`
`12:28.42`	`Molcih`	`yeah well, I'm not in the conditions ;)`
`12:28.52`	`AlphA_VsT`	`if is a condition`
`12:28.54`	`A1win`	`new condition, comparison, then for the left-hand side of the comparison, choose Unit Type of Unit`
`12:29.38`	`Molcih`	`found it`
`12:29.52`	`Molcih`	`I should replace the whole parenthesis`
`12:30.07`	`Molcih`	`not only the "is in ... "`
`12:31.27`	`A1win`	`duh :P`
`12:31.48`	`Molcih`	`:D *ve only just started doing this map thing yesterday`
`12:31.52`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`12:31.52`	`A1win`	`hehe`
`12:32.01`	`Molcih`	`soooo much to learn`
`12:32.01`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yeah :D`
`12:32.26`	`Molcih`	`So many questions... but I don't want to be annoying`
`12:32.38`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yeah`
`12:32.44`	`AlphA_VsT`	`nope`
`12:34.34`	`AlphA_VsT`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-03-18%20at%205.33.50%20AM.png Now to actually do the textures and the extra uni stuff :D`
`12:35.29`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I gave up for now on the fucking info panel 0.o`
`12:35.53`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I had the right location but the game told me I couldn't create a frame when I was trying to edit it 0.o`
`12:35.55`	`AlphA_VsT`	`fucker`
`12:36.00`	`equinox1911`	`VsT how did u get rid of the standard buttons for the minimap ?`
`12:36.12`	`Molcih`	`Can you use integers for regions like "If Unit Type of Unit is in Region X then Kill player X" ?`
`12:36.22`	`AlphA_VsT`	`no`
`12:36.31`	`AlphA_VsT`	`layout file :p`
`12:36.47`	`Molcih`	`some other fancy way, or should I make one If Then Else for each region?`
`12:36.54`	`AlphA_VsT`	`NO!`
`12:36.55`	`equinox1911`	`are you implying therre is a file containing all UI info ?`
`12:36.59`	`A1win`	`you can make an array of regions`
`12:37.08`	`AlphA_VsT`	`there is :D`
`12:37.22`	`A1win`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Array_data_structure`
`12:37.37`	`AlphA_VsT`	`Molcih, you can use an array of locations`
`12:37.42`	`equinox1911`	`o.o`
`12:37.59`	`AlphA_VsT`	`and then for the array value use a number`
`12:38.04`	`AlphA_VsT`	`its hailing 0.o`
`12:38.14`	`AlphA_VsT`	`very random lol`
`12:40.40`	`AlphA_VsT`	`anyways`
`12:41.11`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I really wanted my info panel even with the other stuff :(`
`12:41.16`	`AlphA_VsT`	`Maybe Later hahaha`
`12:41.41`	`equinox1911`	`can u give me a hint what the layout file is called ?`
`12:42.16`	`AlphA_VsT`	`for what?`
`12:42.45`	`equinox1911`	`changing the ui , i thought i could find it opening my map in mpq editor`
`12:43.04`	`AlphA_VsT`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Layout.zip`
`12:43.19`	`AlphA_VsT`	`thats all the data for the ui files`
`12:43.39`	`AlphA_VsT`	`you need to know how to create a override file though :p`
`12:43.55`	`equinox1911`	`ye , i found an entry at sc2mapster`
`12:44.02`	`equinox1911`	`about override stuff`
`12:44.04`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yeah`
`12:44.17`	`equinox1911`	`this is going to be complicated isn't it`
`12:44.18`	`equinox1911`	`lol`
`12:44.20`	`AlphA_VsT`	`use interface fourm is helpful`
`12:44.32`	`AlphA_VsT`	`its a lot of work all I did yesterday`
`12:44.35`	`AlphA_VsT`	`moring :p`
`12:44.51`	`AlphA_VsT`	`for a few hours`
`12:44.54`	`AlphA_VsT`	`and this morning`
`12:44.57`	`AlphA_VsT`	`also`
`12:45.05`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I just gave up on it lol`
`12:45.17`	`AlphA_VsT`	`good enough right now`
`12:45.18`	`equinox1911`	`why is that ?`
`12:45.21`	`equinox1911`	`ah k`
`12:45.31`	`AlphA_VsT`	`wasnt working correctly lol`
`12:47.58`	`equinox1911`	`this sounds greate , i am struggeling wioth my ui for quite some time now ^^`
`12:48.16`	`AlphA_VsT`	`hahaha`
`12:48.27`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I learned a lot but not enough`
`12:48.28`	`AlphA_VsT`	`:(`
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`13:16.52`	`equinox1911`	`07[13:44] <AlphA_VsT> 00use interface fourm is helpful01`
`13:16.59`	`equinox1911`	`what did you men by that ?`
`13:17.45`	`equinox1911`	`ah ofund it ^^`
`13:17.48`	`equinox1911`	`found`
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`13:39.57`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`13:39.59`	`AlphA_VsT`	`:D`
`13:40.07`	`AlphA_VsT`	`sorry been doing textures`
`13:40.08`	`AlphA_VsT`	`eak`
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`14:00.00`	`equinox1911`	`i was being stupid anyways :S`
`14:03.19`	`AlphA_VsT`	`:D`
`14:03.21`	`AlphA_VsT`	`YEAH`
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`14:20.43`	`AlphA_VsT`	`fucking gross`
`14:20.51`	`AlphA_VsT`	`my phone can run n64 games 0.o`
`14:29.15`	`AlphA_VsT`	`tired of the info panel :P`
`14:29.22`	`AlphA_VsT`	`just hiding it fuck it`
`14:32.14`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I maight just do a custom one :P`
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`15:41.02`	`AlphA_VsT`	`:D`
`15:49.58`	`AlphA_VsT`	`hope this works good`
`15:50.57`	`AlphA_VsT`	`so far so good :p`
`16:07.17`	`AlphA_VsT`	`LD`
`16:32.26`	`AlphA_VsT`	`no one alive :P`
`16:36.27`	`AlphA_VsT`	`anyone knwo what the command card race color thing is`
`16:37.33`	`A1win`	`the color the buttons are tinted with if the "tint by race" setting is enabled for the button, I believe`
`16:38.49`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I know that But what the file for the boarder...`
`16:39.35`	`A1win`	`your questions aren't making sense x.x`
`16:39.45`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yes they are`
`16:40.34`	`Kueken`	`you mean which texture file is in the background of the ui and responsible for the color?`
`16:40.41`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yes`
`16:40.47`	`A1win`	`so why didn't you ask that D:`
`16:40.51`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I did`
`16:41.15`	`A1win`	`x.x`
`16:42.17`	`A1win`	`that's what you wanted to ask, but the words you wrote aren't easy to interpret to mean that`
`16:42.31`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I found them jsut need to figure out which one it was :P`
`16:42.35`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I know :P`
`16:42.51`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I didn't check my typing :p`
`16:42.54`	`A1win`	`it's like you assume we already know what you want to know, and only ask part of the question`
`16:43.20`	`AlphA_VsT`	`Yeah, I was not paying attention to my self :D`
`16:43.22`	`A1win`	`I've noticed it before too, when you've been asking for help for something`
`16:43.27`	`Kueken`	`if you try to answer questions in the forum, you are used to it ,)`
`16:43.37`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`16:43.40`	`A1win`	`I don't want to get used to it :P`
`16:43.48`	`A1win`	`which is why I don't answer questions there`
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`16:44.09`	`AlphA_VsT`	`Yeah well I have issues :P`
`16:44.14`	`Kueken`	`some lucky guesses, a little crystall ball gazing, and everything works out :D`
`16:48.46`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`16:49.12`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I try not to rush my self :D sometime I just forget when I am in a rush 0.o`
`16:51.12`	`AlphA_VsT`	`nope not it 0.op`
`16:58.02`	`AlphA_VsT`	`This might take a while 0.o`
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`17:26.33`	`MilkMan`	`hey guys. i've been trying to solve the lobby teams matching in game issue for quite some time. does anyone know where i can find a good guide or does anyone have a solution to this issue?`
`17:28.07`	`AlphA_VsT`	`whats the issue?`
`17:29.08`	`MilkMan`	`player numbers are assigned by when they join the game rather than what team they are in so if someone switches in the lobby then their player number is different in game and causes issues`
`17:29.23`	`AlphA_VsT`	`you should check if player is on team first`
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`17:32.49`	`AlphA_VsT`	`what triggers are being caused an issue from it?`
`17:33.23`	`________________`	`OH`
`17:33.30`	`________________`	`SPEAKING OF ERRORS, U JUST REMINDED ME`
`17:33.31`	`________________`	`1 sec`
`17:33.41`	`________________`	`SetQueriedSpawn; Cannot spawn actor GenericAttackLaunchSound.`
`17:33.49`	`________________`	`how can i find what is causing that error`
`17:34.40`	`AlphA_VsT`	`check what links to it`
`17:34.46`	`AlphA_VsT`	`see what units you modifed`
`17:34.52`	`AlphA_VsT`	`trail and error?`
`17:35.26`	`________________`	`there are literally over 100 units it could possibly be`
`17:35.42`	`________________`	`and i dont know how to bring the error out on purpose`
`17:35.46`	`________________`	`):`
`17:35.53`	`MilkMan`	`well i am trying to have an array called Player that is assigned to each player as they are added to team 1 and 2 this is in my map initialization trigger.`
`17:36.13`	`JademusSreg`	`Pew.`
`17:36.57`	`Stewox`	`anyone has neogaf account ?`
`17:37.39`	`AlphA_VsT`	`neo what`
`17:38.06`	`Stewox`	`neogaf.com`
`17:40.04`	`AlphA_VsT`	`why`
`17:40.30`	`AlphA_VsT`	`they have two sections? lol`
`17:40.57`	`AlphA_VsT`	`very bd design :P`
`17:41.28`	`AlphA_VsT`	`just a big cluster fuck I'm glad I never heard of it`
`17:42.25`	`MilkMan`	`k i'm gonna post my triggers sorry took me too long to open the map up lol`
`17:42.43`	`MilkMan`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:42.58`	`MilkMan`	`well that didnt work like i wanted it to lol`
`17:43.20`	`AlphA_VsT`	`Best if you use things like pastebin... :D`
`17:43.21`	`AlphA_VsT`	`but yeah`
`17:43.53`	`AlphA_VsT`	`wait why are you added a player to a team if they are already on ateam?`
`17:44.26`	`Deaod`	`watch the capitalization`
`17:44.38`	`MilkMan`	`how can they be on a team if i dont put them on a team first?`
`17:45.54`	`MilkMan`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:45.56`	`AlphA_VsT`	`why do you set up teams in the lobby if you don't use them?`
`17:46.20`	`AlphA_VsT`	`brb`
`17:53.37`	`AlphA_VsT`	`back like :D`
`17:54.06`	`MilkMan`	`see it takes players from team 1 in the lobby checks if they are a user and adds them to team variables 1 and 2`
`17:57.01`	`MilkMan`	`its gotta be a problem with someones map or was a problem at one point.`
`17:59.21`	`MilkMan`	`blizzard made it so when you actually join the lobby the first player is player 1 2nd joiner is player 2 and so on but if someone from team 2 gets switched to team 1 then my triggers will do actions to the wrong people.`
`17:59.27`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yes`
`17:59.37`	`AlphA_VsT`	`its dumb very`
`17:59.39`	`AlphA_VsT`	`dumb`
`18:00.40`	`AlphA_VsT`	`Just get allies of player 1`
`18:00.50`	`AlphA_VsT`	`and so forth...`
`18:01.13`	`MilkMan`	`but how would i know which person is team 2?`
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`18:04.45`	`MilkMan`	`its driving me insane... if it would just work correctly i could just move on with my life.`
`18:06.29`	`AlphA_VsT`	`gete`
`18:06.30`	`AlphA_VsT`	`here`
`18:07.30`	`AlphA_VsT`	`http://pastebin.com/cGPgVgD9`
`18:07.32`	`AlphA_VsT`	`there you go`
`18:07.37`	`AlphA_VsT`	`that should be all you need 0.o`
`18:09.08`	`MilkMan`	`ok that makes alot of sense i'll try that thank you`
`18:09.56`	`AlphA_VsT`	`should work Ive never had to deal with such things :P`
`18:10.22`	`AlphA_VsT`	`Player is on team calls a player group whihc makes no sense`
`18:10.40`	`MilkMan`	`its good i just went at it a different way i guess that doesnt work lol`
`18:11.14`	`AlphA_VsT`	`:D`
`18:11.26`	`AlphA_VsT`	`Not saying mine does either :p`
`18:11.40`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I didnt test it`
`18:12.50`	`MilkMan`	`oh hah it looks legit i'm gonna try it out today probably when my buddy gets on gonna slap it together real quick. i'll let you know how it turns out if i remember hah`
`18:13.42`	`AlphA_VsT`	`probably should do it on a test map first :P`
`18:14.19`	`AlphA_VsT`	`im not sure If players are auto set to allies if they are in the same group :p`
`18:14.25`	`AlphA_VsT`	`or team`
`18:17.57`	`MilkMan`	`wouldnt you want to add player Player to team x?`
`18:19.38`	`AlphA_VsT`	`?`
`18:19.54`	`AlphA_VsT`	`if you only have 2 teams?`
`18:20.49`	`MilkMan`	`Player Group - Add player 1 to Team 1`
`18:20.53`	`MilkMan`	`your code`
`18:21.05`	`AlphA_VsT`	`oh yeah`
`18:21.14`	`AlphA_VsT`	`forgot about that :p`
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`18:26.26`	`tordy`	`JademusSreg: sup`
`18:26.57`	`AlphA_VsT`	`sup`
`18:27.10`	`AlphA_VsT`	`he has not pew pew yet`
`18:27.18`	`AlphA_VsT`	`:P`
`18:34.24`	`AlphA_VsT`	`anyways :D`
`18:34.37`	`tordy`	`AlphA_VsT you know about digital signatures?`
`18:35.13`	`AlphA_VsT`	`digital signatures for what?`
`18:35.28`	`tordy`	`this stuff`
`18:35.30`	`tordy`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_signature`
`18:36.58`	`AlphA_VsT`	`why do you need that?`
`18:37.04`	`tordy`	`just curious`
`18:37.09`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I know a tiny bit probably nothing helpful :P`
`18:37.27`	`tordy`	`im not sure about the key generation part`
`18:37.31`	`tordy`	`how do you generate private keys?`
`18:38.14`	`AlphA_VsT`	`depends on what you are doing I would think`
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`18:39.04`	`________________`	`how would i check the race of a unit via triggers?`
`18:39.16`	`tordy`	`catalogues?`
`18:39.26`	`________________`	`o good 1, ill try that`
`18:39.47`	`________________`	`i 4get about those sumtimes`
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`18:40.21`	`AlphA_VsT`	`why are you trying to generate a key for?`
`18:40.30`	`tordy`	`for fun`
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`18:41.35`	`Bounty`	`Hay Guyz`
`18:42.53`	`AlphA_VsT`	`sup bounty`
`18:43.37`	`Bounty`	`n2m u :)`
`18:43.59`	`AlphA_VsT`	`doign my ui`
`18:44.20`	`AlphA_VsT`	`trying to find out what fucking button image is for the background for commands :P`
`18:44.23`	`Bounty`	`hows it coming along`
`18:44.47`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I got passive buttons :p`
`18:44.59`	`AlphA_VsT`	`but the rest I have tried are doing shit`
`18:45.06`	`Bounty`	`Are you doing 100% custom UI?`
`18:45.11`	`Bounty`	`I think you should`
`18:45.18`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I am`
`18:45.19`	`Bounty`	`I hate the standard sc2 UI lol`
`18:45.23`	`Bounty`	`so ugly`
`18:45.32`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`18:45.40`	`AlphA_VsT`	`mine is a bit ugly right now still working on it`
`18:46.22`	`tordy`	`is it possible to read other player's banks?`
`18:46.43`	`AlphA_VsT`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-03-18%20at%2011.45.26%20AM.png`
`18:46.48`	`AlphA_VsT`	`ther eyou go :P`
`18:46.54`	`tordy`	`im guessing maybe since stuff is synced among all players right`
`18:46.59`	`AlphA_VsT`	`what do you mean by other players :P`
`18:47.14`	`tordy`	`other players in the same game`
`18:47.29`	`AlphA_VsT`	`you load data to variables don't you?`
`18:47.37`	`tordy`	`what if i dont?`
`18:47.51`	`AlphA_VsT`	`why would you not?`
`18:48.18`	`tordy`	`make it harder to figure out maybe?`
`18:48.39`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I load bank data to variables 0.o`
`18:48.43`	`AlphA_VsT`	`easy to work with`
`18:49.00`	`AlphA_VsT`	`then save over write the bank at the end of the game`
`18:49.12`	`tordy`	`oh not that kind of bank data`
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`18:49.18`	`tordy`	`bank data like passwords inside banks`
`18:49.23`	`tordy`	`used for authentication in-game`
`18:49.51`	`tordy`	`i knwo you can use player handles now but lets forget abotu that`
`18:50.43`	`AlphA_VsT`	`i guess I don't get what you want to do :P`
`18:50.56`	`tordy`	`argh alpha cmon man!! :[`
`18:51.17`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I mean it's not hard to pull data out of a bank`
`18:51.50`	`tordy`	`just tell me if it's easy to pull data out of a bank from other player's in-game`
`18:51.57`	`Bounty`	`I've noticed something when it comes to my maps`
`18:52.03`	`Bounty`	`I seem to have more EU fans than US`
`18:52.07`	`Bounty`	`for some reason`
`18:52.27`	`Bounty`	`Like, i always have atleast 500 diff people asking for an EU upload`
`18:52.30`	`AlphA_VsT`	`why wouldn't you be able to open bank data in your map for all players`
`18:52.41`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol Bounty`
`18:53.06`	`tordy`	`ok me as player 1 in a game of iunno nexus wars`
`18:53.14`	`tordy`	`can i (player 1) know what's in player 2's bak`
`18:53.16`	`tordy`	`bank`
`18:53.18`	`________________`	`ew nexas wars`
`18:53.25`	`________________`	`nexass*`
`18:53.33`	`Bounty`	`I wonder if i can convince Mexa to upload Ling Ling`
`18:54.13`	`Bounty`	`It uses the soundtrack from Chu Chu though`
`18:54.21`	`Bounty`	`But i mean... cmon`
`18:54.28`	`Bounty`	`Apparently im the only one who played that game`
`18:54.47`	`tordy`	`the what game`
`18:54.54`	`Bounty`	`Chu Chu Rocket for Dreamcas`
`18:54.57`	`Bounty`	`Dreamcast*`
`18:55.04`	`tordy`	`what's ling ling`
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`18:55.25`	`Bounty`	`getting link`
`18:55.41`	`AlphA_VsT`	`no you cant tordy why would you be able to?`
`18:55.42`	`Bounty`	`www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/project-workplace/34117-release-ling-ling-rocket-remastered-edition/`
`18:55.42`	`tordy`	`i recognize the cover`
`18:55.50`	`AlphA_VsT`	`bansk are saved locally`
`18:55.50`	`tordy`	`that'`
`18:55.55`	`tordy`	`that's why im askin you AlphA_VsT`
`18:56.03`	`tordy`	`yes or no`
`18:56.06`	`tordy`	`you said no so thanks`
`18:56.12`	`AlphA_VsT`	`banks are saved locally...`
`18:56.19`	`tordy`	`but`
`18:56.33`	`tordy`	`a player's game state is synced isn't it?`
`18:56.47`	`tordy`	`perhaps the player can`
`18:56.52`	`tordy`	`iunno look at the memory`
`18:57.04`	`tordy`	`borderline hacking anyway so not worth it i guess`
`18:57.06`	`SoulTaker916_`	`my custom siege tank in siege move the cannon doesnt move`
`18:57.10`	`SoulTaker916_`	`but in normal mode it does`
`18:57.11`	`tordy`	`so should be safe?`
`18:57.14`	`SoulTaker916_`	`no errors?`
`18:57.16`	`AlphA_VsT`	`that would not be borderline hacking`
`18:57.19`	`AlphA_VsT`	`that would be`
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`18:57.27`	`tordy`	`that's what i meant`
`18:58.03`	`tordy`	`alpha isa chUUUUU CHUUUUU rocket`
`18:59.54`	`Bounty`	`really makes me mad that thta Galcon Confusion got the entire weekend as top news post`
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`19:01.30`	`AlphA_VsT`	`LOL`
`19:01.38`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yeah I know Right!`
`19:01.43`	`Bounty`	`fucking bullshit`
`19:01.51`	`Bounty`	`like nothing else has been released?`
`19:01.51`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I want a weekend spot :P`
`19:02.03`	`Bounty`	`i posted my projects release thread on friday`
`19:02.12`	`AlphA_VsT`	`haha`
`19:02.20`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`19:02.26`	`AlphA_VsT`	`Shoulda sent sixen a message :P`
`19:02.29`	`Bounty`	`i did`
`19:02.33`	`Bounty`	`on friday`
`19:02.40`	`AlphA_VsT`	`haha well fuck`
`19:02.46`	`Bounty`	`yep`
`19:02.54`	`Bounty`	`its a conspiracy`
`19:02.57`	`AlphA_VsT`	`YES I FOUND IT!`
`19:03.05`	`Bounty`	`TriFaction was supposed to be newsed on a weekend aswell`
`19:03.14`	`Bounty`	`but didnt get it till wednesday`
`19:03.18`	`AlphA_VsT`	`ewwww`
`19:03.39`	`Bounty`	`I bet if you posted your project`
`19:03.45`	`Bounty`	`you would get newsed before me`
`19:04.29`	`AlphA_VsT`	`Now I just Have to set the ettxure correctly :D`
`19:06.37`	`Bounty`	`Would be nice if any of the mods actually communicated`
`19:06.42`	`Bounty`	`aka this IRC`
`19:06.52`	`Bounty`	`the only time mods show up is to close a thread`
`19:06.54`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`19:07.14`	`SoulTaker916_`	`im stilyl having issue`
`19:07.24`	`SoulTaker916_`	`my siege tank, the cannon doesnt rotate`
`19:07.24`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol I know right`
`19:07.27`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its stucks`
`19:07.31`	`AlphA_VsT`	`make it rotate`
`19:07.33`	`AlphA_VsT`	`:D`
`19:08.03`	`SoulTaker916_`	`haha im trying...`
`19:09.46`	`Bounty`	`Also`
`19:10.02`	`Bounty`	`Why the fuck does Rod get to make a thread in General forum that should be in Project forum?`
`19:10.44`	`SoulTaker916_`	`bounty`
`19:10.49`	`SoulTaker916_`	`help me!`
`19:10.53`	`Bounty`	`I cant`
`19:10.57`	`Bounty`	`Thats a data issue`
`19:11.04`	`Bounty`	`out of my realm`
`19:11.05`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`19:13.57`	`Sixen`	`bounty: I wasn't here, I got your message and added it to my list`
`19:14.18`	`AlphA_VsT`	`Hes alive :D`
`19:14.25`	`Bounty`	`Ga Ga Ga Ga Ghooooost`
`19:15.20`	`Bounty`	`Tell Zelda not to news random projects and leave them at the top for the entire weekened Sixen`
`19:15.31`	`Bounty`	`Thanks for your comments. Creating this game tok less than a day, the mechanics are very simple and the triggers are straight up. It DOES have some bugs. But after creating this alpha build, the game just didn't have the right feeling that I was aiming for and therefor I discontinued the project. The coding is freely available if anyone wants to make a game like it, but for my sake, I'll leave this as inspirational to others, and t`
`19:15.38`	`Bounty`	`thats what the author of that galcon map said`
`19:15.39`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`19:15.58`	`Bounty`	`not sure where Zelda even found it`
`19:16.18`	`Sixen`	`I was at Blizzard, I'm glad he did something, otherwise we had nothings.`
`19:16.19`	`Sixen`	`nothing*`
`19:16.46`	`________________`	`deng, ur really involved`
`19:16.50`	`________________`	`thats awesome`
`19:16.50`	`Bounty`	`I released a map Friday with a video/thread and Alpha released a map aswell`
`19:16.58`	`Bounty`	`btw Alpha`
`19:17.03`	`Bounty`	`u need to make a thread/video`
`19:17.08`	`Bounty`	`since its published :)`
`19:17.47`	`Bounty`	`Can you disclose the location of BlizzHQ Sixen?`
`19:17.49`	`Bounty`	`><`
`19:17.55`	`Sixen`	`California? :P`
`19:18.02`	`Bounty`	`go on`
`19:18.09`	`Bounty`	`more specific`
`19:18.11`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`19:18.15`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Vailreth (~kvirc@75.108.222.166)`
`19:18.34`	`Bounty`	`BlizzHQ is like the Atlantis of nerds`
`19:19.38`	`AlphA_VsT`	`im waiting till I finsih 1.0 Bounty :P`
`19:19.55`	`AlphA_VsT`	`i need to get all the bugs out or the ones that are around :p`
`19:20.17`	`AlphA_VsT`	`The ui is the big part of this update also :p`
`19:20.20`	`Bounty`	`btw`
`19:20.30`	`Bounty`	`you need to add mroe features to that list in ur maps description`
`19:20.34`	`Bounty`	`makes it look kinda lame`
`19:20.36`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`19:20.39`	`Bounty`	`its just like`
`19:20.41`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I know I need to update that shit`
`19:20.42`	`AlphA_VsT`	`:D`
`19:20.46`	`Bounty`	`Features - Randomized Map...`
`19:20.48`	`Bounty`	`thats it`
`19:20.51`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I'm going to get rid of it :P`
`19:20.53`	`Bounty`	`><`
`19:21.22`	`Bounty`	`we have about the same amount of bookmarks`
`19:21.25`	`Bounty`	`14-15`
`19:22.08`	`AlphA_VsT`	`really im up to 14 now?`
`19:22.12`	`Bounty`	`yeah`
`19:22.24`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I have played it with like 2 people :P`
`19:23.11`	`AlphA_VsT`	`fucking dds fucked my shit up`
`19:23.58`	`Bounty`	`thats the beauty of ling ling`
`19:24.03`	`Bounty`	`so easy to get a full game`
`19:24.04`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`19:24.08`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`19:24.28`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I have been more worried about fixcing shit and this update`
`19:24.31`	`AlphA_VsT`	`than playing it :p`
`19:24.36`	`AlphA_VsT`	`it's doign fien right now`
`19:26.46`	`AlphA_VsT`	`hope this works :D`
`19:27.14`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I want to make the changes and get 1.0 out today 0.o`
`19:27.57`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I need to work on this ui though I don't like blue, haha my idea of paper was kinda lame :P`
`19:28.22`	`JademusSreg`	`Pew pew.`
`19:28.22`	`AlphA_VsT`	`Going for a hand drawn effect now I think :p`
`19:28.28`	`AlphA_VsT`	`there is the pew pew`
`19:28.44`	`JademusSreg`	`What's up?`
`19:28.58`	`Bounty`	`I've always wanted to do a black and white game`
`19:29.05`	`Bounty`	`I would use lighting though`
`19:29.06`	`Bounty`	`=P`
`19:29.07`	`JademusSreg`	`Like a Noir film.`
`19:29.20`	`Bounty`	`more like Mad World`
`19:29.27`	`JademusSreg`	`Bleh.`
`19:29.32`	`JademusSreg`	`That game was dull.`
`19:29.46`	`Bounty`	`yeah but i like the graphics`
`19:30.14`	`JademusSreg`	`Oh look a boss, and there's the boss's weakness. Bo-ring.`
`19:30.24`	`Bounty`	`well i never played it so`
`19:30.25`	`Bounty`	`lo`
`19:30.29`	`Bounty`	`but i like the way it looked`
`19:30.48`	`Bounty`	`i sold my wii and all my wii games to pay the rent a few years ago`
`19:30.49`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`19:30.50`	`Bounty`	`lololol`
`19:30.58`	`AlphA_VsT`	`not much loss`
`19:31.01`	`Bounty`	`nope`
`19:31.03`	`Bounty`	`not at all`
`19:31.06`	`AlphA_VsT`	`fucking nintendo I lost hope in them`
`19:31.08`	`AlphA_VsT`	`:(`
`19:31.32`	`Bounty`	`i got like 500 for it all`
`19:31.34`	`Bounty`	`on ebay`
`19:31.38`	`Bounty`	`was a good deal`
`19:35.16`	`SoulTaker916_`	`JADE!!!`
`19:35.25`	`JademusSreg`	`?`
`19:36.17`	`SoulTaker916_`	`my siege tank`
`19:36.21`	`SoulTaker916_`	`the cannon wont move`
`19:36.23`	`SoulTaker916_`	`theres no error`
`19:36.26`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and it attacks`
`19:36.30`	`SoulTaker916_`	`but it looks like junk`
`19:36.33`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its a custom tank`
`19:36.38`	`JademusSreg`	`The turret is not enabled.`
`19:36.47`	`SoulTaker916_`	`how do i do that?`
`19:38.33`	`SoulTaker916_`	`??`
`19:39.38`	`SoulTaker916_`	`07ademusSreg01`
`19:39.42`	`SoulTaker916_`	`j07ademusSreg01`
`19:40.11`	`JademusSreg`	`The short answer is to look at how the Siege Tank does it.`
`19:41.13`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i have been...`
`19:41.18`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and i looked at the turret`
`19:42.54`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i mean the modified siege tank is using the same turrent when i look at combat>>weapons`
`19:44.22`	`JademusSreg`	`Why would you use the same turret? It's a different actor, a different unit.`
`19:44.38`	`AlphA_VsT`	`MUCH BETTER ALREADY!`
`19:45.03`	`SoulTaker916_`	`cause the weapon is a copy, with a damage modifacation`
`19:45.07`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and range and stuff`
`19:45.37`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and it works on the modfied siege tank which has all the same modifacations`
`19:45.42`	`JademusSreg`	`Don't be lazy. Always make your own stuff, make all your own data.`
`19:46.01`	`SoulTaker916_`	`well theres no need its a turret`
`19:46.02`	`AlphA_VsT`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-03-18%20at%2012.45.02%20PM.png Hows does it look so far guys?`
`19:46.11`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its doing the exact same thing as the original`
`19:46.16`	`SoulTaker916_`	`which is what i want it to do`
`19:46.21`	`SoulTaker916_`	`not be some modified turret`
`19:46.30`	`Bounty`	`scrap that minimap border`
`19:46.32`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i just want the tank to rotate the cannon properly`
`19:46.34`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`19:46.38`	`AlphA_VsT`	`Yeah I am`
`19:46.40`	`AlphA_VsT`	`:P`
`19:46.40`	`Bounty`	`thats about all i see wrong with it`
`19:46.43`	`Bounty`	`><`
`19:47.11`	`AlphA_VsT`	`hehe :D`
`19:47.30`	`AlphA_VsT`	`Looks better than my old ones for sure already though`
`19:47.50`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I just have to make buttons soonish hahaha`
`19:48.01`	`AlphA_VsT`	`they are all white on a white background :D`
`19:48.07`	`SoulTaker916_`	`JADE`
`19:48.14`	`JademusSreg`	`Looks adorable, Alph.`
`19:48.25`	`SoulTaker916_`	`:(`
`19:48.29`	`JademusSreg`	`?`
`19:49.05`	`JademusSreg`	`You need to make your own turret, and the turret's actor needs to refer to the unit's actor, et cetera.`
`19:49.08`	`JademusSreg`	`Very simple.`
`19:49.24`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ah..`
`19:50.11`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yeah`
`19:50.38`	`SoulTaker916_`	`why would it matter?`
`19:50.43`	`SoulTaker916_`	`tests it`
`19:50.44`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`19:50.56`	`AlphA_VsT`	`becasue actor events control the actor?`
`19:51.07`	`Bounty`	`Now THIS is funny.`
`19:51.08`	`Bounty`	`http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2012/03/17/mass-effect-3-ending-fighter-goes-to-the-ftc.aspx`
`19:51.47`	`SoulTaker916_`	`AHAHA`
`19:52.06`	`Bounty`	`So glad i didnt buy that game`
`19:52.07`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`19:53.06`	`AlphA_VsT`	`same`
`19:53.44`	`Bounty`	`If theres one thing ive learned`
`19:53.57`	`Bounty`	`Its once a game becomes mainstream popular and a franchise, stop buying it`
`19:54.40`	`Bounty`	`Mostly from Bioware`
`19:54.47`	`Bounty`	`I dont know how people still support them`
`19:54.50`	`JademusSreg`	`See: Hipster Reasoning`
`19:54.54`	`Bounty`	`They fuck up majorly atleast once a year`
`19:55.16`	`SoulTaker916_`	`jade`
`19:55.20`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i made a new actor`
`19:55.22`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and stil`
`19:55.23`	`SoulTaker916_`	`same issue`
`19:55.25`	`Bounty`	`I'm not saying dont buy it because its popular Jade`
`19:55.35`	`Bounty`	`Its that once it gets to that point, dont expect a new game`
`19:55.44`	`JademusSreg`	`You're doing it wrong, Taker. Just look at the siege tank turret actor for reference.`
`19:55.44`	`Bounty`	`Because its just going to be the same game`
`19:55.52`	`Bounty`	`Or worse`
`19:55.56`	`JademusSreg`	`And make sure you're using the new turret.`
`19:55.59`	`AlphA_VsT`	`you didnt cahnge the actor events Im sure`
`19:56.03`	`SoulTaker916_`	`yes`
`19:56.09`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i applied to the new turret`
`19:56.27`	`SoulTaker916_`	`in the turret or the unit?`
`19:56.37`	`Bounty`	`You know what i should do`
`19:56.42`	`Bounty`	`Make a SC2 Map thats a movie`
`19:56.45`	`Bounty`	`><`
`19:56.49`	`Bounty`	`Any writers here? :)`
`19:56.54`	`AlphA_VsT`	`hahaha!`
`19:57.03`	`Bounty`	`Wouldnt that be cool though?`
`19:57.06`	`Bounty`	`like a fully voiced`
`19:57.11`	`Bounty`	`and everything`
`19:57.16`	`AlphA_VsT`	`You need replay value of some sort`
`19:57.29`	`Bounty`	`no ma`
`19:57.34`	`Bounty`	`im not talking about making a popular map`
`19:57.38`	`Bounty`	`im just talking about something cool`
`19:57.45`	`Bounty`	`its just a movie`
`19:57.53`	`Bounty`	`like an hour and a half long cinematic`
`19:57.57`	`AlphA_VsT`	`A choose your own style would be pretty awesome`
`19:59.19`	`A1win`	`good voice acting is the most difficult part for hobbyist game development ;\|`
`19:59.38`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I don't think you have enough room for sound files for an hour long cinematic :D`
`20:00.02`	`A1win`	`also a good point ;p`
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`20:00.18`	`tordy`	`what exactly is teh script limit?`
`20:00.23`	`tordy`	`2MB or 1MB?`
`20:01.43`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its still messing up`
`20:01.46`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i changed the events`
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`20:10.42`	`tordy`	`JademusSreg:`
`20:11.07`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`20:11.14`	`tordy`	`:[`
`20:11.24`	`tordy`	`AlphA_VsT what exactly is the script size limit`
`20:11.31`	`tordy`	`just the mapscript.galaxy size?`
`20:11.59`	`JademusSreg`	`Naw.`
`20:12.11`	`tordy`	`what else`
`20:12.19`	`JademusSreg`	`People get confused aobut this frequently.`
`20:12.24`	`tordy`	`im so confused`
`20:12.40`	`tordy`	`DR says under 1MB for mapscript + globals`
`20:12.46`	`JademusSreg`	`There are two stacks of memory: the variable memory and the script bytecode.`
`20:13.08`	`JademusSreg`	`See, the galaxy scripts are interpreted to a bytecode that runs in the galaxy virtual machine.`
`20:13.53`	`tordy`	`ok`
`20:13.53`	`JademusSreg`	`So while the size of the script file loosely corresponds to bytecode size, it doesn't at all correspond to variable memory size.`
`20:14.22`	`JademusSreg`	`Because you could, in only a few lines, allocate more memory than allowed, hitting the variable stack memory limit.`
`20:14.34`	`tordy`	`so what're the limits?`
`20:14.41`	`tordy`	`2MB total?`
`20:15.34`	`JademusSreg`	`The limit, pre ~1.3 thereabouts, was 2MB for both variable and bytecode memory, because before then, the didn't have separate stacks.`
`20:15.42`	`JademusSreg`	`I'm not aware of the current limit.`
`20:16.02`	`tordy`	`so the current limit is higher?`
`20:16.05`	`tordy`	`than 2MB?`
`20:16.13`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol :P`
`20:16.16`	`tordy`	`opmg@`
`20:16.34`	`AlphA_VsT`	`you shouldn't worry about it :p`
`20:16.35`	`JademusSreg`	`But again, you can't just look at the mapscript and know how much memory the bytecode is going to use short of monitoring the memory being allocated by the process.`
`20:16.49`	`JademusSreg`	`So yes, as Alph points out, don't worry about it.`
`20:17.32`	`tordy`	`but you can't you estimate by looking at the amount of globals you got?`
`20:17.39`	`AlphA_VsT`	`no`
`20:17.48`	`tordy`	`+ potential max amount of locals`
`20:18.21`	`tordy`	`bytecode size is generally smaller than the script right`
`20:18.28`	`AlphA_VsT`	`if your game runs your not going over the limit :P`
`20:18.40`	`tordy`	`but i want to plan ahead`
`20:18.57`	`tordy`	`just in case`
`20:19.04`	`tordy`	`perhaps im feeling a bit ambitious`
`20:19.11`	`tordy`	`i want to implement a bajillion sidequests or something`
`20:19.14`	`tordy`	`iunno`
`20:19.34`	`tordy`	`and rules`
`20:19.37`	`tordy`	`and schemes`
`20:19.39`	`tordy`	`whatever`
`20:20.18`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lololol`
`20:20.29`	`tordy`	`does this limit affect testing too?`
`20:20.36`	`AlphA_VsT`	`you wont hit it unless you do something really stupid`
`20:20.37`	`tordy`	`so dont have to publish it on bnet every time`
`20:20.46`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yeah...`
`20:20.53`	`tordy`	`ok`
`20:20.55`	`tordy`	`but DR hit the limit`
`20:21.04`	`tordy`	`he seems a pretty smart guy`
`20:21.08`	`tordy`	`that knows how to optimize things`
`20:21.09`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`20:21.11`	`AlphA_VsT`	`who is dr?`
`20:21.16`	`JademusSreg`	`You can determine how much memory variables use.`
`20:21.19`	`tordy`	`the guy that made Mafia`
`20:21.23`	`JademusSreg`	`But they have a separate stack.`
`20:21.31`	`AlphA_VsT`	`LOL!`
`20:21.35`	`Bounty`	`im almost positive there is a better way to optimize Mafia`
`20:21.42`	`JademusSreg`	`So it doesn't solve the "script limit" question,`
`20:21.43`	`JademusSreg`	`brb`
`20:21.49`	`Bounty`	`hes the only person that i know of to have hit the limit`
`20:21.53`	`Bounty`	`and when i think of hitting the limit`
`20:21.56`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I don't see how that game hit the script limit`
`20:21.59`	`Bounty`	`i dont think of a map like Mafia`
`20:22.02`	`Bounty`	`exactly`
`20:22.07`	`AlphA_VsT`	`my game`
`20:22.12`	`AlphA_VsT`	`doesnt hit the limit`
`20:22.16`	`AlphA_VsT`	`and its all randomized`
`20:22.30`	`tordy`	`doesn't being randomized make it smalelr?`
`20:22.36`	`tordy`	`because you dont have to hard code as much stuff`
`20:22.42`	`AlphA_VsT`	`so i need a shit ton of variables and other stuff`
`20:22.47`	`tordy`	`well it depends on your algorithm i guess and how random you want it`
`20:23.29`	`JademusSreg`	`Back to landscaping. bbl`
`20:23.35`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol jade`
`20:23.36`	`tordy`	`JademusSreg we need you!`
`20:23.39`	`tordy`	`:{{{{{{{{`
`20:23.48`	`AlphA_VsT`	`no nto really :p`
`20:23.55`	`tordy`	`fine i'll pretend alpha is jade`
`20:24.03`	`Bounty`	`ha`
`20:24.08`	`Bounty`	`let me know how that works out for you tordy`
`20:24.19`	`tordy`	`yo AlphA_VsT WADDAAAAAAAP`
`20:25.04`	`tordy`	`are reals 4 bytes?`
`20:25.39`	`tordy`	`wait what about text?`
`20:25.52`	`tordy`	`is that part of the script limit`
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`20:30.53`	`AlphA_VsT`	`LOL`
`20:31.07`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I have no fucking clue`
`20:31.17`	`Kueken`	`reals should be 32 bit, like int`
`20:31.44`	`Kueken`	`that was 4 byte, right?`
`20:31.47`	`Kueken`	`yes`
`20:31.48`	`Kueken`	`-.-`
`20:31.54`	`Kueken`	`<- rusty`
`20:32.08`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`20:32.28`	`Kueken`	`if text is stored externally, it is not part of the script limit`
`20:32.28`	`AlphA_VsT`	`how do you use bits?`
`20:32.46`	`Kueken`	`bit = boolean ;)`
`20:33.03`	`AlphA_VsT`	`so how is that 32 bits ?`
`20:33.07`	`AlphA_VsT`	`im confused :D`
`20:33.55`	`Kueken`	`an integer can hold 2^32 different numbers`
`20:34.06`	`AlphA_VsT`	`how?`
`20:34.08`	`________________`	`-v`
`20:34.10`	`________________`	`oops`
`20:34.27`	`Kueken`	`binary numbers`
`20:34.33`	`Kueken`	`ever heard of it? ;(`
`20:34.35`	`Kueken`	`;)`
`20:35.28`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I know of binary...`
`20:35.44`	`Kueken`	`well, anyway, to store 2^32 numbers, you need 32 bits of memory`
`20:36.32`	`AlphA_VsT`	`but how do you set/get bit values from a integer`
`20:36.44`	`Kueken`	`?`
`20:36.55`	`Kueken`	`bit is not a "value" in that sense`
`20:36.58`	`Kueken`	`its a quantity`
`20:37.35`	`Kueken`	`I can say "an integer can hold 2^32 numbers" or "the integer has a size of 32 bit"`
`20:37.42`	`Kueken`	`those statements are equivalent`
`20:40.20`	`Currydevil`	`also meaning, the largest number you can store as a single int is 4294967296`
`20:40.22`	`Currydevil`	`=O`
`20:40.39`	`Currydevil`	`no wait`
`20:40.42`	`Currydevil`	`I take that back`
`20:40.47`	`Currydevil`	`much much larger`
`20:40.59`	`Kueken`	`well, SC2 uses signed ints, so its actually 2.147.483.647`
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`20:41.52`	`Currydevil`	`ah`
`20:41.54`	`Currydevil`	`ok`
`20:41.54`	`Kueken`	`and yours minus 1 was correct for unsigned ints`
`20:42.02`	`Kueken`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:42.15`	`Currydevil`	`did i? i just copied what I got from 2^32 lol`
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`20:42.21`	`Kueken`	`indeed`
`20:42.30`	`Kueken`	`2^32 different numbers`
`20:42.59`	`Kueken`	`0 + every number from 1 to 2^32-1`
`20:43.27`	`tordy`	`omg Kueken is the new JademusSreg !`
`20:43.32`	`Currydevil`	`lol`
`20:43.45`	`Kueken`	`not really xD`
`20:43.53`	`tordy`	`anyway what was i talkin about`
`20:43.54`	`Currydevil`	`Anyways, I don't suppose anyone can lead me to a tut on making new terrain textures?`
`20:43.55`	`Kueken`	`this is way to basic for him`
`20:44.00`	`tordy`	`what about strings?`
`20:44.08`	`Bounty`	`How is he the new jademussreg?`
`20:44.14`	`Bounty`	`He explained things in like two sentences`
`20:44.21`	`Bounty`	`Jade would have done it in 3 paragraphs`
`20:44.21`	`tordy`	`depends on string legnth & char size?`
`20:44.28`	`Kueken`	`yes`
`20:45.06`	`tordy`	`so length of string bytes?`
`20:45.09`	`tordy`	`since each char is 1 byte`
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`20:45.13`	`tordy`	`i think`
`20:45.45`	`Mexa`	`heyhey`
`20:45.49`	`tordy`	`sup`
`20:45.51`	`Bounty`	`Wanna upload Ling Ling Rocket! to EU Mexa? Its in demand ><`
`20:46.11`	`Mexa`	`Depends on the content inside it, you know that.`
`20:46.12`	`Kueken`	`dunno from memory`
`20:46.16`	`tordy`	`Bounty, i meant the guy that explain to me the technical details`
`20:46.26`	`Kueken`	`mexa, what is the size of a string per char?`
`20:46.32`	`tordy`	`doesnt matter how terse he is`
`20:46.44`	`Mexa`	`Que?`
`20:46.45`	`Bounty`	`well it uses the soundtrack from the game its based on, but its from the Dreamcast`
`20:46.51`	`Mexa`	`So?`
`20:46.58`	`Bounty`	`Fair enough then`
`20:47.01`	`Bounty`	`yet again no EU upload lol`
`20:47.13`	`Mexa`	`I couldn't care less if it was from NES.`
`20:47.20`	`AlphA_VsT`	`terrain textures Currydevil ? nothign special abiout them jsut make a texture and import it`
`20:47.34`	`tordy`	`prometheus trailer looks sweet`
`20:47.51`	`Mexa`	`Bounty, how come I am the only one available (yet not available)?`
`20:48.03`	`Bounty`	`I have plenty available Mexa`
`20:48.09`	`Bounty`	`but you're the only one i trust`
`20:48.50`	`Mexa`	`Is that only because Jademus said that:P?`
`20:49.11`	`Bounty`	`thats a part of it`
`20:49.13`	`Bounty`	`but not the whole deal`
`20:49.38`	`Mexa`	`Hm, well`
`20:49.51`	`Mexa`	`You need to find a few more people you can trust then.`
`20:49.57`	`Bounty`	`nah`
`20:49.58`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`20:50.02`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`20:50.05`	`tordy`	`im hopinh bounty trusts me`
`20:50.16`	`AlphA_VsT`	`why would he`
`20:50.20`	`tordy`	`cuz im the dude`
`20:50.23`	`Mexa`	`why wouldn't he?`
`20:50.27`	`Bounty`	`i trust Jade, Mexa and maybe Alpha`
`20:50.29`	`AlphA_VsT`	`Idono :P`
`20:50.30`	`Bounty`	`MAYBE`
`20:50.33`	`AlphA_VsT`	`MYABE!`
`20:50.38`	`AlphA_VsT`	`MAYBE! EVEN!`
`20:50.41`	`tordy`	`maybe? never trust alpha, he's upto no good`
`20:51.08`	`Mexa`	`Alpha might vanish, that's about it :>`
`20:51.14`	`Bounty`	`I'll just never understand the big deal with all though Mexa`
`20:51.27`	`Mexa`	`It may not be`
`20:51.29`	`Bounty`	`Considering Mafia uses music from the Godfather (It even says it does in the map)`
`20:51.31`	`tordy`	`what're youg uys talkin about now`
`20:51.35`	`Bounty`	`and Blizzard plays taht map`
`20:51.39`	`Bounty`	`but ill end it at that`
`20:51.40`	`tordy`	`somethin to do with sizes`
`20:51.44`	`Bounty`	`so this doesnt turn into a huge debate`
`20:51.45`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`20:52.04`	`Mexa`	`Oh Bounty, I was only going to say: that it's all about filing a DCMA`
`20:52.05`	`AlphA_VsT`	`no idea`
`20:52.12`	`Mexa`	`If no one does that, nothing will happend`
`20:52.30`	`Bounty`	`Only the owner of the material can file a complaint`
`20:52.37`	`Bounty`	`and the map would just be removed`
`20:52.41`	`Bounty`	`thats about it`
`20:52.46`	`Bounty`	`worst case scenario`
`20:52.49`	`Bounty`	`i'm the author`
`20:52.51`	`Bounty`	`you can forward them to me`
`20:53.06`	`Mexa`	`Also, I think it's unprofessional to deal with it by simply ignoring.`
`20:53.26`	`Mexa`	`Both by Blizzard and map makers.`
`20:53.32`	`Bounty`	`Bc Blizzard knows its not a big deal`
`20:53.37`	`Bounty`	`Ill tell you this though`
`20:53.44`	`Bounty`	`If they ever make it so you can charge for maps`
`20:53.51`	`Bounty`	`It'll be a whole new ball game`
`20:54.00`	`Bounty`	`Because thats when copyright will be enforced`
`20:54.01`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yes`
`20:54.06`	`Mexa`	`No doubts about that.`
`20:54.15`	`AlphA_VsT`	`that's why I stay away from that shit`
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`20:54.29`	`Bounty`	`As long as you dont make a profit`
`20:54.45`	`Bounty`	`Your good, worst case you get your map remvoed and asked to remove the copyrighted material`
`20:55.00`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yeah for sure`
`20:55.09`	`AlphA_VsT`	`but still I would rather jsut avoid it :P`
`20:55.12`	`AlphA_VsT`	`no big deal`
`20:55.19`	`Bounty`	`Its not going to happen though lol`
`20:55.26`	`Bounty`	`It never has and never will`
`20:56.06`	`Bounty`	`Its free publicity`
`20:56.14`	`Mexa`	`I also want to follow Blizzards eula, no matter how silly it might be, and no matter that it probably just stands there just for standing there.`
`20:56.28`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yeah`
`20:56.42`	`Bounty`	`You uploaded Photon cycles right?`
`20:56.49`	`Mexa`	`I did.`
`20:57.00`	`AlphA_VsT`	`:D`
`20:57.03`	`Bounty`	`That could be deemed as infringing upon copy right`
`20:57.13`	`Bounty`	`If you took it far enough`
`20:57.16`	`AlphA_VsT`	`no it cant`
`20:57.21`	`AlphA_VsT`	`its a clone`
`20:57.25`	`AlphA_VsT`	`at best`
`20:57.28`	`Bounty`	`Exactly`
`20:57.40`	`Mexa`	`A clone of what, Tron?`
`20:57.40`	`Bounty`	`If they wanted to be dicks about it`
`20:57.41`	`AlphA_VsT`	`which is nto illegal`
`20:57.47`	`Bounty`	`Like bethesda did with the word scrolls`
`20:57.50`	`Bounty`	`they could do it`
`20:58.11`	`AlphA_VsT`	`people make clones of games all the time`
`20:58.22`	`Bounty`	`and?`
`20:58.28`	`Bounty`	`fan made projects have been shut down before`
`20:58.31`	`Bounty`	`for being clones`
`20:58.31`	`Mexa`	`It's as much clone of Tron as it is to snake, if that's what you mean.`
`20:58.32`	`AlphA_VsT`	`nothing illegal about it unless you use the same art work/names`
`20:58.44`	`Bounty`	`you could prolly use that to Mexa`
`20:58.45`	`Bounty`	`im just sayin`
`20:58.48`	`Bounty`	`if they wanted to`
`20:58.49`	`JademusSreg`	`Pew pew.`
`20:58.50`	`Bounty`	`they could lol`
`20:59.03`	`Bounty`	`It just comes down to how much you dont give a shit about your PR`
`20:59.10`	`Bounty`	`like Bethesda did with Scrolls`
`20:59.20`	`Bounty`	`and Capcom shut down a few Fan Made projects`
`20:59.24`	`Bounty`	`that were clones of their games`
`20:59.25`	`Mexa`	`But how's Scrolls similar in this case?`
`20:59.30`	`AlphA_VsT`	`its not`
`20:59.35`	`Mexa`	`that's a name dispute, nothing else.`
`20:59.38`	`Bounty`	`Because you cant own a word`
`20:59.42`	`Bounty`	`but apparently you can`
`20:59.46`	`Bounty`	`if you can own a word`
`20:59.52`	`Bounty`	`you can own gameplay mechanics`
`20:59.56`	`Mexa`	`There's no Tron in Photon Cycles.`
`21:00.15`	`Bounty`	`Its not a name dispute`
`21:00.20`	`Bounty`	`its THE ELDER SCROLLS`
`21:00.25`	`Bounty`	`not scrolls`
`21:00.31`	`Bounty`	`u cant own one word`
`21:00.32`	`JademusSreg`	`Since I've not seen Tron, I can say with certainty it is not based on Tron. Rather, it is inspired in part by the Lightbike concept from Tron, of which I am aware, and is more directly inspired by TronCraft: Rebirth, which similarly is inspired by the aforementioned concept.`
`21:00.42`	`Mexa`	`Back on topic, how does this affect Photon Cycles?`
`21:00.56`	`Bounty`	`im just sayin`
`21:01.05`	`JademusSreg`	`*talkin out of my ass`
`21:01.06`	`JademusSreg`	`Fixed.`
`21:01.13`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yeah`
`21:01.16`	`Mexa`	`That it is a clone of Tron? Or merely a snake game with sci-fi/Tron inspiration.`
`21:01.20`	`Bounty`	`not uploading bc of copyright is fine but if you're going to ride that train, ride it`
`21:01.21`	`Bounty`	`lolol`
`21:01.50`	`Mexa`	`What train did I not ride?`
`21:02.01`	`Bounty`	`If whoever owns the copyright to snake/tron lightbikes games wanted to`
`21:02.09`	`Bounty`	`they could be dicks`
`21:02.20`	`Bounty`	`the same way fan made clones get shut down by major companies`
`21:02.21`	`Bounty`	`all the time`
`21:02.55`	`Bounty`	`also`
`21:02.55`	`Mexa`	`Name a few examples`
`21:02.58`	`Bounty`	`i love how i was like`
`21:03.10`	`Bounty`	`"im gonna stop here so this doesnt turn into an arguement or something"`
`21:03.13`	`Bounty`	`and look at me now`
`21:03.29`	`Mexa`	`h relax, it hasn't gone too far:P`
`21:03.31`	`AlphA_VsT`	`well your being silly :P`
`21:03.46`	`Currydevil`	`ouch. you're`
`21:03.52`	`AlphA_VsT`	`than you :D`
`21:03.57`	`AlphA_VsT`	`dick face`
`21:04.00`	`Currydevil`	`=P`
`21:04.15`	`Currydevil`	`I'm allergic to grammatical errors, did you know?`
`21:04.37`	`Currydevil`	`I read a comic about that once, tis quite funny.`
`21:05.36`	`Bounty`	`just google fan made project shut down`
`21:05.39`	`Bounty`	`ull find plenty`
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`21:06.29`	`Mexa`	`Bounty, speaking of Tron. Midway, the ones who made the original game of Tron, was declared bankruptcy in 2009.`
`21:06.47`	`Bounty`	`Ok?`
`21:06.50`	`Currydevil`	`http://www.explosm.net/comics/2712/ This is for you Alpha.`
`21:06.51`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`21:07.10`	`Mexa`	`Also yet, Photon Cycles is not a fangame, is it?`
`21:07.17`	`Mexa`	`Or maybe I should ask Jademus that,`
`21:07.50`	`Mexa`	`"Some companies go out of their way to shut down fangames, declaring them copyright infringements." -And I wasn't even surprised for that.`
`21:09.37`	`Mexa`	`Bounty, hey, there's also fanmade games who have been praised`
`21:09.47`	`AlphA_VsT`	`fangame != clone`
`21:09.57`	`Mexa`	`I know.`
`21:10.22`	`AlphA_VsT`	`fangames use art and names of the actual game its copying`
`21:10.41`	`Mexa`	`I wanted Bounty to name any fanmade which wasn't doing any copyright infridgement in those terms:P`
`21:11.13`	`AlphA_VsT`	`so yes it is a copyright infringement, a clone is a copy of ideas from a game and thats all`
`21:11.31`	`JademusSreg`	`I definitely didn't use the art or names. Haha`
`21:13.04`	`AlphA_VsT`	`of course not`
`21:13.10`	`AlphA_VsT`	`that would be silly :P`
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`21:19.15`	`Bounty`	`Just pisses me off that 95% of the comments i get are from people asking "IS IT ON EU?"`
`21:19.27`	`Bounty`	`and i cant get it to them`
`21:19.37`	`Bounty`	`Uploads should be worldwide`
`21:20.54`	`Mexa`	`Would be convenient, yeah`
`21:22.04`	`Bounty`	`best i could give you is the map with no sound`
`21:22.16`	`Bounty`	`which is retarded`
`21:24.03`	`AlphA_VsT`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-03-18%20at%202.23.16%20PM.png`
`21:24.09`	`AlphA_VsT`	`more like that?`
`21:24.19`	`________________`	`haha, thats cute`
`21:24.33`	`Mexa`	`You can still tribute to Chu Chu Rocket without having to use their assets.`
`21:24.46`	`AlphA_VsT`	`of course`
`21:24.58`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lingling rocket is a clone`
`21:25.05`	`Bounty`	`Anyone who has played the map knows the music plays a big part`
`21:25.33`	`AlphA_VsT`	`Well you like to use copywrited music :D`
`21:25.42`	`Bounty`	`and yano what?`
`21:25.46`	`Bounty`	`i've done it over 20 times`
`21:25.47`	`Kueken`	`so, alpha, how did you get this effect? custom ground texture and tinted units?`
`21:25.50`	`Bounty`	`havent got in trouble yet`
`21:25.59`	`AlphA_VsT`	`custom textures`
`21:26.01`	`Bounty`	`even when my maps would be popular lol`
`21:26.03`	`AlphA_VsT`	`and custom textures`
`21:26.05`	`Bounty`	`didnt get in trouble at all`
`21:26.11`	`Kueken`	`k`
`21:26.24`	`AlphA_VsT`	`and player color :D`
`21:26.33`	`Bounty`	`but this is a pointless debate, its like arguing over religion`
`21:26.33`	`Kueken`	`yes ;)`
`21:26.55`	`Kueken`	`so it screws up, if players activate the "enemies red, allies blue" button?`
`21:27.10`	`AlphA_VsT`	`disabled :P`
`21:27.36`	`Kueken`	`and if they have enabled it before? or can you manually turn it of`
`21:28.35`	`AlphA_VsT`	`You can set it with triggers :P`
`21:29.00`	`Kueken`	`good to know, I didn't find it last time I checked`
`21:29.09`	`Kueken`	`granted, that was in the beta`
`21:30.10`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I know I have seen it I have yet to set it`
`21:30.11`	`AlphA_VsT`	`:P`
`21:30.23`	`AlphA_VsT`	`You braught up a good point though lol`
`21:30.28`	`AlphA_VsT`	`didnt think about it`
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`21:33.56`	`AlphA_VsT`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:33.58`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yeah`
`21:34.14`	`AlphA_VsT`	`normal or team colors`
`21:34.44`	`AlphA_VsT`	`FIXED!`
`21:36.20`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I'm going to add back in the info panel now that I don't need to keep it even and shit`
`21:55.04`	`AlphA_VsT`	`OMG!`
`21:55.07`	`AlphA_VsT`	`IM STUPID!`
`21:55.30`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I spent liek 3 hours trying to fidn the panel info so it would work`
`21:55.45`	`AlphA_VsT`	`and it was jsut the dfault of what it is in the list`
`21:55.53`	`AlphA_VsT`	`0.o`
`21:56.35`	`AlphA_VsT`	`So now... I will make this shit small :D`
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`22:09.46`	`nubbizen`	`Anyone that can give me a han?`
`22:09.49`	`nubbizen`	`hand*`
`22:10.25`	`AlphA_VsT`	`with`
`22:10.57`	`nubbizen`	`I just downloaded a map from S2Mapster, where do i put it? I can't find a map folder :/`
`22:11.12`	`AlphA_VsT`	`there is no "map" folder`
`22:11.24`	`AlphA_VsT`	`what do you want to do with this map?`
`22:11.33`	`nubbizen`	`and i guess one does not simple create a map folder?`
`22:11.45`	`nubbizen`	`I want to play the Island troll tribes`
`22:11.57`	`AlphA_VsT`	`drag it onto your sc2 shortcut`
`22:12.13`	`nubbizen`	`Is that all?`
`22:12.21`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yes... that should work`
`22:12.30`	`nubbizen`	`Thank you m8, appriciate it!`
`22:12.33`	`nubbizen`	`Have a gr8 day`
`22:13.47`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`22:18.07`	`AlphA_VsT`	`OH YEAH!`
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`22:31.17`	`Bounty`	`Nom Nom Nom`
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`22:50.09`	`flyingspatula`	`hey bounty u there`
`22:57.12`	`________________`	`~8ball is bounty here?`
`22:57.12`	`purl`	`Are you smoking crack?`
`22:57.22`	`________________`	`guess thats a no D:`
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`23:05.16`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`23:08.21`	`Bounty`	`I think im gonna make a new video of TriFaction`
`23:08.24`	`Bounty`	`showing what it looks like now`
`23:08.29`	`Bounty`	`bc it really looks nothing like the old video lol`
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`23:19.25`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`23:20.44`	`flyingspatula`	`hey bounty, is there a way to show backround sky on a map without a huge farclip distance`
`23:24.23`	`Bounty`	`yep, make a personal skybox for each player`
`23:24.29`	`Bounty`	`basically make a unit with the model of the sky`
`23:24.33`	`Bounty`	`that follows u`
`23:24.38`	`Bounty`	`ironically`
`23:24.44`	`Bounty`	`the video of trifaction im abotut to publish`
`23:24.47`	`Bounty`	`thats how it does it ><`
`23:25.00`	`flyingspatula`	`lmao`
`23:25.08`	`flyingspatula`	`thats pretty funny`
`23:25.17`	`flyingspatula`	`cuz i actually thot of that as well but went NAH THATS JUST GOOFY`
`23:25.21`	`Bounty`	`wait till u see how good itl ooks though :)`
`23:25.22`	`flyingspatula`	`lol guess that really works XD`
`23:25.28`	`flyingspatula`	`nice`
`23:26.00`	`flyingspatula`	`im still having problems with`
`23:26.04`	`flyingspatula`	`camera going under the ground`
`23:26.09`	`flyingspatula`	`gotta make a function for that i guess`
`23:27.02`	`flyingspatula`	`well u keep on working with trifaction and let me make a hide n seek :P`
`23:31.30`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`23:31.48`	`AlphA_VsT`	`or you can just switch the camera to installation`
`23:31.58`	`AlphA_VsT`	`and cahnge the skyboc`
`23:32.22`	`AlphA_VsT`	`thats how I would do it`
`23:33.51`	`flyingspatula`	`what would installation do`
`23:36.25`	`AlphA_VsT`	`or space even`
`23:36.41`	`AlphA_VsT`	`space yes :P sorry`
`23:37.46`	`flyingspatula`	`bounty how did u prevent objects from clipping thru the skybox that follows ur unit. its kinda weird. guess id have to see it for myself in ur trifaction`
`23:38.14`	`flyingspatula`	`might be doing it diff than u, cuz its kinda meh atm`
`23:39.05`	`flyingspatula`	`oh i must have the size too big/small. not sure how i get the size exactly 75 -_-`
`23:39.37`	`AlphA_VsT`	`change yoru camera to space in data`
`23:39.45`	`AlphA_VsT`	`wont have any issue :p`
`23:39.53`	`flyingspatula`	`what do u mean`
`23:39.56`	`flyingspatula`	`hm`
`23:40.02`	`flyingspatula`	`my camera is custom`
`23:40.06`	`flyingspatula`	`for TPV`
`23:40.09`	`AlphA_VsT`	`so`
`23:40.14`	`flyingspatula`	`u mean space skybox?`
`23:40.19`	`AlphA_VsT`	`no`
`23:40.42`	`flyingspatula`	`not sure what ur sayin then lol`
`23:40.51`	`Bounty`	`You add fog`
`23:40.53`	`Bounty`	`flyingspatula`
`23:40.54`	`flyingspatula`	`if i change my camera to space, then my TPV camera is no longer working`
`23:40.57`	`Bounty`	`and you blend it`
`23:40.58`	`AlphA_VsT`	`in your terrain texture set`
`23:41.01`	`flyingspatula`	`ah ok makes sense bounty`
`23:41.05`	`Bounty`	`ill link the video after its done uploading`
`23:41.06`	`AlphA_VsT`	`change the camera to spacecam`
`23:41.08`	`Bounty`	`so u can see`
`23:41.19`	`flyingspatula`	`kk`
`23:41.24`	`AlphA_VsT`	`errr its spaceplatform`
`23:41.32`	`flyingspatula`	`yeah but i already have a custom camera set in the texture set lol`
`23:41.40`	`AlphA_VsT`	`thats not the same thing`
`23:41.43`	`AlphA_VsT`	`geez`
`23:41.49`	`AlphA_VsT`	`its how the camera behaves`
`23:42.03`	`AlphA_VsT`	`ie showing skybox`
`23:43.02`	`AlphA_VsT`	`you can listen to bounty and do it some stupid way...`
`23:43.10`	`flyingspatula`	`spacecam works because the farclip is set higher`
`23:43.10`	`AlphA_VsT`	`what ever`
`23:43.18`	`flyingspatula`	`which is bad for what im doing :P`
`23:43.19`	`AlphA_VsT`	`no`
`23:44.30`	`flyingspatula`	`ok going to texture set, and changing the Camera field to space completely changes my custom camera I have set there.`
`23:44.41`	`flyingspatula`	`is what i was tyring to say`
`23:44.48`	`flyingspatula`	`i had to make my own camera for my map`
`23:45.17`	`flyingspatula`	`space farclip is set to 20000`
`23:45.21`	`flyingspatula`	`which is hwy that works`
`23:45.55`	`AlphA_VsT`	`Oh I guess it is :D`
`23:45.58`	`flyingspatula`	`XD`
`23:45.59`	`AlphA_VsT`	`nm then :(`
`23:46.05`	`flyingspatula`	`lol nah its ok :P`
`23:47.28`	`AlphA_VsT`	`BUTTONS!`
`23:50.35`	`AlphA_VsT`	`Idono if I like them though 0.o`
`23:50.36`	`AlphA_VsT`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-03-18%20at%204.38.26%20PM.png`
`23:50.47`	`AlphA_VsT`	`Yeah Ignore the info panel :P`
`23:52.53`	`flyingspatula`	`id just make the middle pannel 1 row`
`23:53.02`	`flyingspatula`	`but a gap between the far left and right buttons since ur tryign tio separate them`
`23:53.37`	`AlphA_VsT`	`im putting a exp bar down there`
`23:53.50`	`flyingspatula`	`oh gotcha`
`23:54.16`	`flyingspatula`	`r uy gonn b able to paperize`
`23:54.18`	`flyingspatula`	`the rigth side`
`23:54.21`	`flyingspatula`	`the marine icons`
`23:55.03`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Bounty (442ccc3b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.44.204.59)`
`23:55.25`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I will make it black and white`
`23:55.44`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I'm still redoing it :p`
`23:55.49`	`flyingspatula`	`cool`
`23:56.21`	`flyingspatula`	`hey bounty did u just make a skybox actor and attach it to unit?`
`23:56.37`	`flyingspatula`	`and disable the attachment actors ability to change height fields when unit moves`
`23:56.49`	`Bounty`	`no`
`23:56.59`	`Bounty`	`i used full blown units`
`23:57.00`	`flyingspatula`	`oh so ur skybox moves around separately`
`23:57.01`	`flyingspatula`	`ah`
`23:57.05`	`flyingspatula`	`that might be a bad way to do it`
`23:57.15`	`Bounty`	`my way?`
`23:57.26`	`flyingspatula`	`well having to move a skybox unit around`
`23:57.33`	`flyingspatula`	`sounds kinda inefficient i dunno`
`23:57.44`	`Bounty`	`well thats what i do`
`23:57.46`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`23:57.48`	`flyingspatula`	`lol`
`23:57.58`	`AlphA_VsT`	`bounty is not efficient :D`
`23:58.03`	`flyingspatula`	`ill try using an actor and see if tha tworks`
`23:58.47`	`flyingspatula`	`its just it would be better if u attached actor/model to the unit directly and i think u can remove the actors ability to rotate with the unit and change elevation with unit`
`23:58.59`	`JademusSreg`	`Zoop.`
`23:59.06`	`flyingspatula`	`lets ask jade`
`23:59.10`	`flyingspatula`	`lol`
`23:59.26`	`________________`	`wats a skybox?`
`23:59.37`	`AlphA_VsT`	`a box made of sky`
`23:59.42`	`flyingspatula`	`indeed`

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