| 00:00.30 | Currydevil | ok, well I have what Deaod posted a moment ago now. |
| 00:00.40 | Deaod | mkay |
| 00:00.56 | Deaod | try using it in like an if function |
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| 00:01.52 | Bounty | Hay Guyz |
| 00:02.48 | AlphA_VsT | now to see if the marader can be fixed the same way 0.o |
| 00:03.12 | AlphA_VsT | hey bounty the quicker picker upper |
| 00:03.18 | Bounty | har har |
| 00:04.16 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 00:07.25 | AlphA_VsT | wow thats fucking odd |
| 00:07.34 | AlphA_VsT | it was the weapon that was broken :( |
| 00:09.41 | Currydevil | http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f360/onestepahead1011/funccall.jpg alright |
| 00:09.46 | AlphA_VsT | ok games pretty much ready to be released then |
| 00:09.50 | Currydevil | that's what I have atm |
| 00:10.02 | Currydevil | how am I passing the byte? |
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| 00:10.34 | Deaod | http://deaod.de/Trigger2.png |
| 00:10.47 | Deaod | hm? |
| 00:10.55 | Deaod | a byte is an 8bit integer |
| 00:11.01 | Deaod | ahhh |
| 00:11.03 | Deaod | hm |
| 00:11.22 | Deaod | just change the type of the parameter to int |
| 00:11.24 | Deaod | Integer |
| 00:11.32 | Currydevil | byte to int? |
| 00:11.45 | Deaod | yes, change the type of the parameter to Integer from Byte |
| 00:13.25 | Currydevil | ok, so if I use the first function you wrote in my if/then like: if: function(whichInteger, bit) == true then: create 1 wall |
| 00:13.28 | Currydevil | i'll be ok? |
| 00:13.46 | Deaod | yes |
| 00:14.04 | Currydevil | ok |
| 00:16.19 | Currydevil | so can I refer to the bit I want to read as 1-9 when I pass it to the function? |
| 00:16.26 | Deaod | no |
| 00:16.28 | Deaod | 0.8 |
| 00:16.30 | Deaod | 0-8 |
| 00:16.34 | Currydevil | ah ok |
| 00:16.54 | Deaod | well, if youre consistent, 1-9 would work fine as well |
| 00:17.29 | Deaod | but CS likes to start counting from 0 |
| 00:17.35 | Currydevil | ok |
| 00:18.18 | Currydevil | and i'm sure this goes without saying, but i need to name my var that I pass as the param the same as it's named in the function yes? |
| 00:18.55 | Deaod | no, variables you pass to the function dont need to have a specific name |
| 00:19.25 | Currydevil | ok |
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| 00:21.29 | Deaod | keep in mind that you can only save up to 32 bits in an integer |
| 00:22.03 | Currydevil | that's ok, i'm only using the first 9. |
| 00:27.20 | AlphA_VsT | Photoshop time :P |
| 00:28.23 | AlphA_VsT | SO EXCITED! |
| 00:28.34 | AlphA_VsT | YAY! |
| 00:30.23 | Currydevil | that's pretty cool. only problem now is there are about 460 some odd patterns for each 3x3 that i'm not accounting for and the first generation gave me a ton of dead space =P |
| 00:31.18 | Currydevil | Hmmmm |
| 00:32.20 | AlphA_VsT | account for all of them :P |
| 00:32.23 | JademusSreg | I expect something was not done correctly. =D |
| 00:33.24 | Currydevil | no no, it's done correctly |
| 00:33.28 | Currydevil | my problem is this |
| 00:33.59 | Deaod | are you trying to generate a maze? |
| 00:34.06 | Currydevil | I drew out all the patterns I wanted so that I wouldn't get a wall 2 cells thick or more because it was a bad match for adjoining grids |
| 00:34.09 | Currydevil | yes |
| 00:34.12 | Currydevil | sort of |
| 00:34.30 | Currydevil | so now i get a mass of wall that can't be used haha |
| 00:34.33 | Currydevil | it's a wonderful tool though |
| 00:34.43 | Currydevil | and I do so appreciate the help |
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| 00:45.41 | Bounty | Nom Nom Nom |
| 00:51.43 | JademusSreg | Pew. |
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| 00:56.25 | AlphA_VsT | POW! |
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| 00:59.25 | Bounty | i r bored |
| 01:00.12 | JademusSreg | Wark on ur map. |
| 01:00.33 | Bounty | meh |
| 01:00.40 | Bounty | if i work on it thats going to make me want to play it |
| 01:00.51 | Bounty | then ill go on bnet online to be disapointed lol |
| 01:00.57 | Bounty | only* |
| 01:01.06 | Bounty | >< |
| 01:01.30 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 01:01.32 | AlphA_VsT | i know right |
| 01:01.48 | AlphA_VsT | YOu can play some paper zombies soon :P |
| 01:01.54 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:01.57 | Bounty | oh joy, zombies |
| 01:02.13 | AlphA_VsT | not real zombies yet :( |
| 01:02.20 | Bounty | with how many movies and video games are about killing zombies |
| 01:02.27 | Bounty | its gonna be real funny if that ever happens |
| 01:02.31 | Bounty | and we get wiped out |
| 01:03.27 | AlphA_VsT | Toxoplasma Gondii Parasite! |
| 01:03.35 | AlphA_VsT | it will happen |
| 01:04.06 | Currydevil | I'll just convert my patterns from their binary to integer and save those 56 patterns to an array with just 1 # .... I like that much better |
| 01:04.26 | Bounty | ... |
| 01:04.28 | Currydevil | than having to fill out 9 variable for each pattern |
| 01:04.30 | Bounty | tha fuck did you just say |
| 01:04.53 | Currydevil | a lot of fuck obv to get that response ;) |
| 01:06.02 | AlphA_VsT | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasma_gondii |
| 01:06.33 | AlphA_VsT | mindcontroling parasite that also infects humans |
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| 01:08.36 | AlphA_VsT | ZOMBIES! for reals :D |
| 01:09.08 | QueenG | hey alpha, was looking for u |
| 01:09.18 | Deaod | "A study of 191 young women in 1999 reported higher intelligence and lower guilt proneness in Toxoplasma-positive subjects.", |
| 01:09.33 | AlphA_VsT | howdy |
| 01:09.52 | Deaod | i always thought zombies were rather primitive |
| 01:10.20 | QueenG | come play some custom maps with me |
| 01:10.27 | AlphA_VsT | no i cant |
| 01:10.28 | QueenG | while we continue discussing my tug map? |
| 01:10.36 | QueenG | okay |
| 01:10.43 | AlphA_VsT | I'm doing textures 0.o |
| 01:10.56 | AlphA_VsT | I am almsot done and can release 0.o |
| 01:11.04 | QueenG | alrighty |
| 01:12.27 | JademusSreg | Pew pew/ |
| 01:14.56 | AlphA_VsT | but I would otherwise lol |
| 01:16.00 | Bounty | Nom Nom |
| 01:16.52 | Bounty | Maybe i should just stick to sequels of my older maps? |
| 01:16.56 | Bounty | They seem to do well |
| 01:18.45 | JademusSreg | Goddamn, make something you would enjoy playing, finish it, polish it, promote it. Waste no time deliberating on the obvious. =D |
| 01:18.53 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:19.04 | Bounty | but thats the thing you always get wrong Jade |
| 01:19.09 | Bounty | I enjoy playing everything i make |
| 01:19.21 | Bounty | thats why i make them |
| 01:19.31 | Bounty | but i also make them... multiplayer lol |
| 01:19.31 | JademusSreg | Yeah, it's those last three you need to work on. |
| 01:19.34 | JademusSreg | In that order. |
| 01:19.50 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:19.59 | Bounty | i agree |
| 01:20.04 | Bounty | cant really debate that one |
| 01:20.07 | Bounty | >< |
| 01:21.45 | Bounty | u know what would be a good sequel |
| 01:21.48 | Bounty | Hotel VS Zombies |
| 01:21.54 | Bounty | i really enjoyed that one lol |
| 01:22.00 | Bounty | and it was only 4 players so it was easy to get games |
| 01:22.36 | flyingspatula | bounty whats the % of maps uve made that are TPS/FPS lol 99%? |
| 01:22.43 | Bounty | hmm |
| 01:22.50 | Bounty | let me see |
| 01:22.56 | Bounty | i can actually give u a number |
| 01:22.56 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:23.00 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 01:23.28 | flyingspatula | i want u to make a concept map with 10-12 players playign at once using wasd/mouse with decent internet and show me its doable. |
| 01:23.30 | Bounty | 21 maps |
| 01:23.32 | Bounty | and |
| 01:23.36 | flyingspatula | nice |
| 01:23.39 | flyingspatula | lot of maps huh |
| 01:23.44 | Bounty | 3 |
| 01:23.46 | Bounty | were not TPS |
| 01:23.47 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:23.50 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 01:23.52 | Bounty | so yeah |
| 01:23.55 | Bounty | 99% is about right |
| 01:23.59 | flyingspatula | then actually stick with one that |
| 01:24.02 | flyingspatula | u keep updating |
| 01:24.04 | flyingspatula | -_- |
| 01:24.11 | flyingspatula | get it on page 1 nigguh |
| 01:24.14 | Bounty | problem is |
| 01:24.20 | Bounty | and i think jade will agree with me on this |
| 01:24.25 | Bounty | i make my maps require way to many players |
| 01:24.37 | Bounty | a nice 4 player map would be good |
| 01:24.39 | Dustin|Alt | I make mym aps 4 players usually |
| 01:24.48 | Dustin|Alt | I feel its the perfect number |
| 01:24.49 | Bounty | yeah tahts what im thinking |
| 01:24.53 | Bounty | if u cant find 3 other ppl to play ur map |
| 01:24.57 | Bounty | then it must really blow |
| 01:24.59 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:25.00 | Dustin|Alt | Ya |
| 01:25.02 | Bounty | my problem is |
| 01:25.04 | flyingspatula | i always considered 8 the best, since its optinimal for melee |
| 01:25.06 | Bounty | i cant find 13 other ppl >< |
| 01:25.07 | Bounty | ever |
| 01:25.16 | Bounty | 8 is tough |
| 01:25.22 | Bounty | 4 is a sweet spot |
| 01:25.26 | Bounty | for co op especially |
| 01:25.47 | flyingspatula | but some maps just wor kbetter with more than 4 |
| 01:26.32 | Bounty | well yeah |
| 01:26.40 | Bounty | my maps are amazing when u get alot of players |
| 01:26.46 | flyingspatula | i finally know what i want to make, and its pretty simple and easy to make aside from terrain. but im like where do is tart lol |
| 01:26.47 | flyingspatula | start* |
| 01:26.50 | Bounty | but they are insanely bad with low player count |
| 01:26.51 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:26.55 | flyingspatula | yeah |
| 01:26.56 | flyingspatula | well |
| 01:27.04 | flyingspatula | u need people to help get ur map known |
| 01:27.08 | flyingspatula | and spread |
| 01:27.20 | Bounty | it was easier for me back in the day |
| 01:27.29 | Bounty | i had a full friends list of testers |
| 01:27.33 | flyingspatula | nice |
| 01:27.37 | Dustin|Alt | I wish I had an art friend |
| 01:27.38 | flyingspatula | i have 1 friend on bnet |
| 01:27.38 | Bounty | i still have that list, problem is none of them log onto sc2 anymore |
| 01:27.39 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 01:27.45 | flyingspatula | yeha |
| 01:27.46 | flyingspatula | same |
| 01:27.48 | flyingspatula | i deleted all of em |
| 01:27.50 | flyingspatula | 1 year ago |
| 01:27.51 | Bounty | i didnt |
| 01:27.54 | Bounty | thye just dont like on |
| 01:27.57 | Bounty | and i pray they come back |
| 01:27.57 | flyingspatula | even tho i didnt log on sc2 for atleast a year |
| 01:27.57 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:28.11 | flyingspatula | u can add me lol ill always test |
| 01:28.11 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 01:31.04 | QueenG | wanna come play a map with me flyingspatula? |
| 01:31.25 | flyingspatula | testin? |
| 01:38.23 | QueenG | yeh |
| 01:38.35 | QueenG | its a custom map |
| 01:53.02 | AlphA_VsT | hmmm first new texture test |
| 01:53.10 | AlphA_VsT | cant wait to see |
| 01:55.03 | AlphA_VsT | hmmmm |
| 01:55.04 | AlphA_VsT | idono |
| 01:55.35 | AlphA_VsT | to much maybe 0.o |
| 01:56.23 | AlphA_VsT | this will be the hard part 0.o lol |
| 02:08.31 | QueenG | does anyone wana test out a custom map i made? |
| 02:08.36 | QueenG | besides alpha because hes busy |
| 02:11.06 | AlphA_VsT | haha :( |
| 02:16.56 | Vailreth | blarg |
| 02:27.12 | JademusSreg | Pew pew. |
| 02:27.16 | Bounty | Pew |
| 02:28.16 | Bounty | wow |
| 02:28.24 | Bounty | battlefield egypt has 19 hours played lol |
| 02:28.28 | Bounty | it had 0 |
| 02:28.30 | Bounty | wierd |
| 02:29.15 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 02:30.54 | Bounty | LOL |
| 02:30.55 | Bounty | omg |
| 02:30.56 | Bounty | ok |
| 02:30.57 | Bounty | thats it |
| 02:31.02 | Bounty | i call shenanigans |
| 02:31.20 | Bounty | Empires and Conquest is the number 2 most popular map on US right now |
| 02:31.27 | Bounty | it wasnt even on the list two days ago |
| 02:32.00 | Bounty | I think there is some sort of exploit |
| 02:32.19 | Bounty | Anytime a new map hits page 1 it comes out of nowhere and just instantly hits #1 or #2 spot |
| 02:33.29 | JademusSreg | It's a conspiracy, maaan. |
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| 02:35.02 | Bounty | idk about conspiracy |
| 02:35.05 | Bounty | but i think something is up |
| 02:35.12 | Bounty | bc this seems to happen alot |
| 02:35.33 | Bounty | this doesnt bother anyone else? |
| 02:37.18 | JademusSreg | It's of no consequence to me. =D |
| 02:37.48 | Bounty | thats a real shitty way of thinking about it lol |
| 02:38.34 | JademusSreg | "God, doesn't this shit just make you mad?" "What, you mean that thing that has no effect on my life? No." "?!!?!?!?!?!" |
| 02:39.11 | Bounty | Like i said, thats a really shitty way of thinking about it |
| 02:39.23 | JademusSreg | How so? |
| 02:39.54 | Bounty | Well it means that people could possibly be exploiting a glitch in the popularity system and instantly getting their maps to be #1 or #2 |
| 02:39.58 | Bounty | and you have a map |
| 02:40.04 | Bounty | which is meh popular |
| 02:40.16 | Bounty | but its running off its own legit playerbase |
| 02:40.33 | Bounty | and someone comes in and somehow goes all the way from the bottom to #1 or 2 instantly |
| 02:40.39 | Bounty | and that doesnt bother you? |
| 02:40.44 | Bounty | at all |
| 02:40.50 | JademusSreg | What difference does it make to me? |
| 02:40.55 | Bounty | for the record, i'm not saying you should get extremely butthurt about it |
| 02:41.07 | Bounty | i'm just saying, to have no reaction at all? |
| 02:41.45 | flyingspatula | if u had JUST finished photoncycles and lots of people cheated to the top few pages while urs was stuck back where no one could ever find it, im sure ud care. |
| 02:42.29 | Bounty | I've only seen one map make it to page 1 over a period of time/legit |
| 02:42.32 | Bounty | and thats hero attack |
| 02:42.54 | flyingspatula | unforunately |
| 02:43.19 | JademusSreg | Haha, I'm glad you feel confidentally in your speculation as to the reactions of people you hardly know, fly. Admirable confidence. |
| 02:43.21 | flyingspatula | that map wont see the light of day after bliz dota |
| 02:44.30 | Bounty | never know |
| 02:44.33 | Bounty | blizz dota could suck |
| 02:44.35 | flyingspatula | well if u didnt care if anyone plays a map you make, why would u have uploaded it and even made it multi |
| 02:44.43 | Bounty | if theres one thing sc2 has shown us |
| 02:44.47 | Bounty | its that blizzard can fuck up |
| 02:44.48 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:45.31 | JademusSreg | Fly, what has caring if people play my map to do with people exploiting a bug to get the number one position? |
| 02:46.01 | Bounty | because thats why you should care jade? |
| 02:46.06 | Bounty | you have a map that as i said |
| 02:46.06 | flyingspatula | because the whole point was when people exploit like that, maps get stuck further back |
| 02:46.09 | Bounty | it has "meh" popularity |
| 02:46.13 | Bounty | meaning its popular |
| 02:46.14 | Bounty | but not really |
| 02:46.21 | JademusSreg | The people who regularly play will continue to regularly play until they don't. |
| 02:46.25 | Bounty | but it stays at its spot legitly based on real players |
| 02:46.27 | JademusSreg | Makes no difference to me. |
| 02:46.34 | AlphA_VsT | I THINK I GOT IT! |
| 02:46.57 | JademusSreg | I made a map I enjoyed, played it, other people enjoyed it so they played it. |
| 02:47.07 | JademusSreg | When they cease to enjoy it, they stop playing. |
| 02:47.18 | flyingspatula | by the way bounty, i think to get to top page people just host games in the lobby with AI and let it sit |
| 02:47.21 | JademusSreg | Caring has nothing to do with it. |
| 02:47.23 | Bounty | i swear jade |
| 02:47.24 | flyingspatula | counts as hours played |
| 02:47.27 | Bounty | you're like fucking Jesus sometimes |
| 02:47.29 | Bounty | and i hate it |
| 02:47.49 | JademusSreg | Haha, wat? |
| 02:47.51 | Bounty | only one way to find out flying |
| 02:47.56 | Bounty | im pretty sure that doesnt work though |
| 02:48.06 | flyingspatula | i remember hearing when sc2 first came out |
| 02:48.09 | flyingspatula | ppl were doing that |
| 02:48.38 | Bounty | just made a full lobby of computers |
| 02:48.41 | Bounty | going to let it run |
| 02:48.42 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:48.44 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 02:48.45 | flyingspatula | i don tknow if |
| 02:48.49 | flyingspatula | u have to actually start |
| 02:48.50 | Bounty | im pretty sure ive tried this before though |
| 02:48.51 | Bounty | but never know |
| 02:48.53 | flyingspatula | or le tit sit in lobby |
| 02:49.02 | Bounty | ifu sit in the lobby it counts towards nothing |
| 02:50.14 | flyingspatula | well even if u dod that ud need hundreds of players doin it consecutively wouldnt you |
| 02:50.24 | Bounty | not really |
| 02:50.27 | flyingspatula | well |
| 02:50.29 | Bounty | if it works as you say it does |
| 02:50.31 | flyingspatula | to break 1000+ hours |
| 02:50.31 | Bounty | then about 10-15 people |
| 02:50.35 | Bounty | could get you to page 1 |
| 02:50.44 | Bounty | 15x15 players though |
| 02:51.01 | Bounty | thats 225 hours played per hour |
| 02:51.01 | flyingspatula | so it goes by a player by playe rbasis |
| 02:51.02 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:51.05 | flyingspatula | rather than eachhosted game |
| 02:51.07 | flyingspatula | nice |
| 02:51.40 | Bounty | thankfully TriFaction is still fun even by urself |
| 02:51.41 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:51.47 | flyingspatula | XD |
| 02:51.51 | Bounty | so this isnt that hard to just sit in and play |
| 02:55.11 | Bounty | nothin like leading an army of 80 troops into battle lol |
| 02:56.41 | AlphA_VsT | that doesnt work any more |
| 02:57.04 | AlphA_VsT | you actually have to play the game |
| 03:00.28 | Bounty | i am playing |
| 03:00.30 | AlphA_VsT | i hope this one works |
| 03:00.59 | AlphA_VsT | fuck yeah good enough |
| 03:01.40 | AlphA_VsT | hydra didnt stick |
| 03:01.42 | AlphA_VsT | hmmm |
| 03:02.13 | AlphA_VsT | fucking game |
| 03:02.31 | Bounty | woohoo i control the immortal viking |
| 03:03.02 | AlphA_VsT | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-03-13%20at%208.02.17%20PM.png |
| 03:03.15 | AlphA_VsT | sigh :p |
| 03:04.07 | AlphA_VsT | i have to fix this hydra 0.o |
| 03:04.29 | AlphA_VsT | and then I will finish updating the graphics later lol |
| 03:05.55 | AlphA_VsT | testing in game hope it works |
| 03:07.38 | AlphA_VsT | grrrr tea colors |
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| 03:09.40 | Currydevil | yay for binary conversion spreadsheet |
| 03:10.49 | Bounty | well |
| 03:10.50 | Bounty | it doesnt work |
| 03:10.57 | Bounty | had 14 computers and i just played for like 45 mins |
| 03:11.00 | Bounty | it went up by |
| 03:11.02 | Bounty | 0 |
| 03:11.12 | Bounty | >< |
| 03:12.17 | AlphA_VsT | yeah |
| 03:12.20 | AlphA_VsT | i dont get that |
| 03:12.44 | AlphA_VsT | its like play time over a period of time or some crap |
| 03:12.57 | Bounty | its stupid is what it is lol |
| 03:13.02 | AlphA_VsT | it is |
| 03:13.21 | AlphA_VsT | fuck me i need a guide so i know which texture file does what :P |
| 03:13.23 | AlphA_VsT | i forget |
| 03:13.31 | AlphA_VsT | making this harder |
| 03:17.45 | AlphA_VsT | anyone? |
| 03:17.45 | Bounty | You know what would be funny |
| 03:17.54 | Bounty | If SCU wasnt popular when its released |
| 03:17.56 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:18.42 | AlphA_VsT | scu? |
| 03:19.02 | Currydevil | well, I just turned my patterns into single ints so I don't have to do so much to store them. WOO! |
| 03:19.13 | Bounty | Starcraft Universe |
| 03:19.17 | Currydevil | single vars* |
| 03:19.48 | AlphA_VsT | good job |
| 03:20.12 | AlphA_VsT | Um the new mmo isnt a sc game :P |
| 03:20.21 | JademusSreg | Hahaha |
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| 03:24.08 | Bounty | huh? |
| 03:24.13 | Bounty | what r u talkin about Alpha lol |
| 03:24.26 | Bounty | theres a upcomming sc2 map called StarCraft Universe |
| 03:24.31 | Bounty | you've never heard of it? |
| 03:24.37 | AlphA_VsT | nope :p |
| 03:24.42 | Bounty | wow |
| 03:24.45 | Bounty | thats pretty bad >< |
| 03:24.51 | AlphA_VsT | why is it bad? |
| 03:25.14 | Bounty | bc it got more exposure than any other project? |
| 03:25.33 | Bounty | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/starcraft-universe/ |
| 03:25.59 | AlphA_VsT | This project has become inactive. yay |
| 03:26.08 | Bounty | nah |
| 03:26.11 | JademusSreg | Naw. |
| 03:26.13 | Bounty | they're just doign the voice acting stuff |
| 03:26.17 | Bounty | the map is done though |
| 03:26.20 | Bounty | from waht i was told by ryan |
| 03:29.40 | Dustin|Alt | I didnt enjoy the demo they put out |
| 03:29.49 | Dustin|Alt | PVE would be fun though |
| 03:29.53 | Dustin|Alt | If they fixed the camera |
| 03:30.40 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 03:31.09 | AlphA_VsT | what file holds team color diffuse? |
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| 03:32.04 | ProzaicMuze | blargh |
| 03:32.18 | Bounty | word |
| 03:33.39 | flyingspatula | starcraft univerise looks very impressive |
| 03:33.51 | Bounty | but will it blend? |
| 03:33.55 | ProzaicMuze | I think the fact that you can make spatulas fly is definitely more impressive |
| 03:34.13 | flyingspatula | agreed |
| 03:34.58 | Shawn|Rawr | agreed |
| 03:35.03 | Bounty | agreed |
| 03:35.13 | flyingspatula | lol\ |
| 03:38.31 | JademusSreg | Bounty, you said SCU is nearly done? |
| 03:38.42 | Bounty | Last i talked to Ryan he said it was done |
| 03:38.47 | Bounty | They're just doing the voice acting |
| 03:39.52 | Dustin|Alt | Fucking Healers I just dont get. |
| 03:40.56 | JademusSreg | ??? |
| 03:42.35 | ProzaicMuze | lol when did you talk to Ryan? |
| 03:43.12 | Bounty | when i was developing TriFaction |
| 03:43.20 | flyingspatula | is it exactly like wow? wasd and mouse rotation |
| 03:43.46 | Bounty | he said he had lots of spare time now that SCU was done and that all they had left to do was the voice acting and he wanted to work with me on it |
| 03:44.01 | Bounty | pretty much spatula |
| 03:44.25 | flyingspatula | wonder if itll lag then |
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| 03:44.35 | Bounty | it wont lag |
| 03:44.37 | Dustin|Alt | Yeah its pretty laggy |
| 03:44.38 | Bounty | it'll have delay |
| 03:44.41 | Dustin|Alt | The demo he released was PVP |
| 03:44.44 | Dustin|Alt | unplayable |
| 03:44.48 | Bounty | lol? |
| 03:44.54 | Bounty | um |
| 03:44.59 | Bounty | i played that and it was perfectly fine |
| 03:45.12 | Bounty | like i said, its going to have delay but its not "UNPLAYABLE" lol |
| 03:45.14 | Bounty | nowhere near that |
| 03:45.15 | Dustin|Alt | I oculdnt play it, to much lag to have any sort of a real fight |
| 03:45.37 | ProzaicMuze | You were working on TriFaction around last October, right? |
| 03:45.39 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 03:45.49 | AlphA_VsT | if it uses wasd it will lag |
| 03:45.52 | AlphA_VsT | and it will fail |
| 03:45.52 | ProzaicMuze | Also, the PvP was definitely less than desirable, but that's because it doubled the effect of WASD lag |
| 03:45.55 | Bounty | nah i'd say around end of november |
| 03:46.03 | Bounty | through december |
| 03:46.08 | ProzaicMuze | whereas PvE wasd isn't nearly as bad due to inherent predictability |
| 03:46.25 | ProzaicMuze | If you need twitch reactions to players it's very noticeable, but when playing against AI that you can predict, it's much more tolerable. |
| 03:46.29 | Bounty | WASD lag is nowhere near as bad as it was |
| 03:46.33 | Bounty | its 10x better |
| 03:46.36 | Bounty | not perfect |
| 03:46.38 | ProzaicMuze | And if that's the case, he wasn't talking about SCU, Bounty |
| 03:46.39 | Bounty | but its not as bad it was lol |
| 03:46.42 | ProzaicMuze | he was talking about one portion of it |
| 03:46.59 | ProzaicMuze | We're still actively working on it, Voice Acting included |
| 03:47.00 | Bounty | he said they were done and just waiting on the voice acting |
| 03:47.06 | Bounty | *shrug* |
| 03:47.52 | Bounty | doesnt really matter anyways, as long as its released |
| 03:48.51 | flyingspatula | haha "damn, how much did you pay optimus prime to do the trailer for you? Does he take credit?" |
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| 03:49.26 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 03:50.40 | Bounty | all i know is i still dont understand why he wanted a part in trifaction so bad lol |
| 03:51.04 | ProzaicMuze | I actually spoke with him about that |
| 03:51.21 | ProzaicMuze | he was interested because he liked the concept you created and wanted you to finish it given your track record prior to that ;P |
| 03:51.28 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:51.35 | Bounty | well i think i did pretty good |
| 03:51.43 | Bounty | shame the drop bug killed it |
| 03:52.06 | JademusSreg | Well, it's been fixed, so you can continue to work on it. =D |
| 03:52.18 | Bounty | no, actually i can't |
| 03:52.26 | Bounty | i dont have it lol |
| 03:52.34 | Currydevil | bounty deleted evertyhing a while ago. |
| 03:52.35 | JademusSreg | Easy. Join a game of it. |
| 03:52.39 | AlphA_VsT | i do liek the new tetxures :P |
| 03:52.49 | JademusSreg | Then use a map unlock tool. |
| 03:52.51 | Bounty | its locked Jademus |
| 03:52.56 | Bounty | u can do that? |
| 03:52.59 | flyingspatula | just |
| 03:53.04 | flyingspatula | login to your map editor |
| 03:53.08 | flyingspatula | and u get it that way too |
| 03:53.16 | flyingspatula | it saves under ur account |
| 03:53.16 | Bounty | its locked so it wont let me DL it |
| 03:53.20 | Bounty | or will it? |
| 03:53.21 | AlphA_VsT | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-03-13%20at%208.52.03%20PM.png :D |
| 03:53.27 | AlphA_VsT | i need to fix the team color though :( |
| 03:53.34 | JademusSreg | Nice, Alph. |
| 03:53.57 | AlphA_VsT | yeah i will update the older textures :P |
| 03:54.07 | Bounty | yeah |
| 03:54.10 | Bounty | it wont let me DL any of my maps |
| 03:54.15 | Bounty | bc they're locked lol |
| 03:54.18 | AlphA_VsT | yeah |
| 03:54.23 | AlphA_VsT | no shit :P |
| 03:54.39 | Bounty | which is kinda wierd if you ask me |
| 03:54.46 | Bounty | why can't locking just lock it to anyone who is not you |
| 03:54.51 | ProzaicMuze | You can't DL your own map through your own account? |
| 03:54.53 | ProzaicMuze | That seems weird |
| 03:54.55 | AlphA_VsT | that's why you keep a copy always |
| 03:55.01 | Bounty | i would have |
| 03:55.07 | AlphA_VsT | IT tells you that you cant |
| 03:55.09 | Bounty | if blizz didnt blow off the drop bug for 6-10 months |
| 03:55.11 | AlphA_VsT | when you uplaod it |
| 03:55.13 | Bounty | then i wouldnt have raged |
| 03:55.15 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:55.35 | AlphA_VsT | it actually tells you when you set it to locked that even you cant download it |
| 03:55.40 | AlphA_VsT | so its your own fault |
| 03:55.41 | Bounty | i know |
| 03:55.43 | flyingspatula | what was this drop bug |
| 03:55.49 | AlphA_VsT | idono |
| 03:55.57 | AlphA_VsT | but my map wont suffer from it now :p |
| 03:56.00 | Bounty | maps with mods as dependancies would randomly drop players |
| 03:56.07 | Bounty | ALOT of players |
| 03:56.20 | Bounty | usuall about 50-70% of the players in the game |
| 03:56.38 | Bounty | also, im not complaining alpha |
| 03:56.39 | Bounty | douche |
| 03:56.43 | flyingspatula | mods as depenencies, whats the diff form that and choosing all 4 of the default |
| 03:56.44 | AlphA_VsT | i know :P |
| 03:56.45 | Bounty | they brought it up |
| 03:56.46 | Bounty | not me |
| 03:56.48 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:56.55 | AlphA_VsT | i wasnt speaking to jsut you :D |
| 03:57.00 | Bounty | custom mods as dependancies |
| 03:57.17 | AlphA_VsT | yeah it was only custom mods |
| 03:57.35 | AlphA_VsT | my mod is 14mb lol |
| 03:57.36 | Bounty | yep |
| 03:57.53 | Bounty | and of course blizzard used their amazing communication skills to let people know the status |
| 03:57.57 | Bounty | oh wait |
| 03:57.58 | Bounty | no they didnt |
| 03:58.01 | Bounty | they just randomly fixed it |
| 03:58.03 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:58.15 | AlphA_VsT | fucking fuck man |
| 03:58.42 | AlphA_VsT | maybe i have it backwards |
| 03:59.15 | Bounty | i raelly dont understand what you're having such a tough time with alpha |
| 03:59.18 | Bounty | based on that picture |
| 03:59.27 | Dustin|Alt | Im having a problem with healers |
| 03:59.44 | Bounty | huh |
| 03:59.48 | Bounty | wait |
| 03:59.51 | Bounty | i said alpha |
| 03:59.54 | Bounty | who r yew |
| 04:00.04 | Bounty | i r confused |
| 04:00.33 | JademusSreg | ~yew |
| 04:02.50 | ProzaicMuze | Actually, they did let people know they were working on it |
| 04:02.58 | ProzaicMuze | The problem was everyone ignored it and raged at the mod who addressed it |
| 04:03.08 | AlphA_VsT | hope this works :D |
| 04:03.09 | ProzaicMuze | So they didn't say anything after that, and rightly so |
| 04:03.10 | Bounty | i was the one who started that lol |
| 04:03.30 | Bounty | bc we were playing trifaction and everoyne kept dropping |
| 04:03.39 | Bounty | so i said fuck this everyone keep bumping the thread until we get a blue |
| 04:03.41 | Bounty | >< |
| 04:03.57 | Bounty | and the mod said nothing |
| 04:04.34 | Bounty | Thank you for the reports and detailed examples of tests already performed. We’re sorry if there has been any delay in official response, though we have been looking into this issue for some time; generally speaking we do not post on threads of this type unless we need more information or assistance in investigating the underlying causes of the issue.Sadly, I can’t provide any kind of time frame on when this may be resolved but |
| 04:04.38 | Bounty | thats what he said |
| 04:05.23 | AlphA_VsT | here goes nada :p |
| 04:05.26 | JademusSreg | When players respond to reps with hostility, they shouldn't be surprised when they alienate them from responding further. |
| 04:06.31 | AlphA_VsT | WTF |
| 04:06.41 | AlphA_VsT | WHAT HOLD TEAM COLOR! |
| 04:06.52 | Bounty | what the fuck are you trying to do alpha |
| 04:07.21 | ProzaicMuze | Yeah, that post is more than enough to suggest they are aware of the issue AND that they have been for a lengthy period of time. |
| 04:07.23 | AlphA_VsT | not make the fucking team color show on the unit |
| 04:07.33 | ProzaicMuze | Did you remove the alpha layers? |
| 04:07.39 | AlphA_VsT | no |
| 04:07.41 | Bounty | um |
| 04:07.43 | Bounty | thats easy alpha |
| 04:07.49 | JademusSreg | "F7U12 why u no listen 2 our parblems!3! we deamnd a respons" *rep responds* "R AGE this is bulsit we deamnds an other response." |
| 04:07.49 | ProzaicMuze | Team color is applied through alpha layers |
| 04:07.52 | Bounty | you want black and white right? |
| 04:07.57 | AlphA_VsT | I know that |
| 04:08.00 | Bounty | right? |
| 04:08.05 | Bounty | answer meh |
| 04:08.05 | AlphA_VsT | yes |
| 04:08.06 | Bounty | i can halp |
| 04:08.07 | Bounty | ok |
| 04:08.14 | ProzaicMuze | Then if you know that and didn't remove the alpha layer. . . then you should already know what it's not working ;P |
| 04:08.14 | Bounty | just pick each unit and set its color to white |
| 04:08.16 | AlphA_VsT | i jsut need to know which fuckinig file it is |
| 04:08.16 | Bounty | or black |
| 04:08.19 | Bounty | end of story |
| 04:08.23 | Bounty | that fucking simple |
| 04:08.29 | Bounty | pick each unit - set unit color to white |
| 04:08.30 | Bounty | or black |
| 04:08.34 | Bounty | whichever looks better |
| 04:08.48 | AlphA_VsT | lol no bounty |
| 04:08.56 | Bounty | try it |
| 04:09.04 | Bounty | u wont get any better results than that lol |
| 04:09.07 | AlphA_VsT | ProzaicMuze, which file holds the team color? |
| 04:09.20 | ProzaicMuze | The team color is determined by the texture layer itself |
| 04:09.33 | JademusSreg | The material should specify, yes? |
| 04:09.34 | ProzaicMuze | So if you want to change team color for a marauder, open its texture file |
| 04:09.42 | AlphA_VsT | WHICH ONE! |
| 04:09.57 | Bounty | or |
| 04:09.58 | Bounty | OR |
| 04:10.02 | ProzaicMuze | As far as I'm aware, models only use texture at a time |
| 04:10.07 | Bounty | just set the units color through a trigger? |
| 04:10.14 | Bounty | there will be no effing differance |
| 04:10.19 | Bounty | if ur using all black and white |
| 04:10.20 | AlphA_VsT | ok well then you know nothing :p |
| 04:10.25 | Bounty | just set all the units to black or white |
| 04:10.27 | ProzaicMuze | So whatever texture file you edited to shift to inversed to B&W |
| 04:10.29 | ProzaicMuze | . . . |
| 04:10.55 | Bounty | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:11.00 | Bounty | if the map is in black and white |
| 04:11.07 | Bounty | i dont even understand how team color can be an issue? |
| 04:11.11 | AlphA_VsT | its not fully black and white |
| 04:11.14 | Bounty | there are no colors |
| 04:11.20 | AlphA_VsT | team color is used on the mini map |
| 04:11.40 | Bounty | so where are you trying to get rid of team color? on the field unit itself or the minimap lol |
| 04:12.21 | Bounty | also im confused, how is that picture your showed not fully black and white? |
| 04:12.26 | AlphA_VsT | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-03-13%20at%208.52.03%20PM.png |
| 04:12.40 | Bounty | yeah |
| 04:12.42 | AlphA_VsT | ops |
| 04:12.44 | Bounty | where do you see this color? |
| 04:12.44 | AlphA_VsT | wrong |
| 04:12.46 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:12.55 | AlphA_VsT | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-03-13%20at%209.07.29%20PM.png |
| 04:13.04 | AlphA_VsT | thats from the editor |
| 04:13.12 | AlphA_VsT | the one i just linked in in game :p |
| 04:13.17 | Bounty | .... |
| 04:13.21 | Bounty | wait |
| 04:13.28 | Bounty | how the hell did you get the black and white effect? |
| 04:13.31 | Bounty | you didnt use lighting? |
| 04:13.37 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 04:13.43 | AlphA_VsT | wow bounty |
| 04:13.53 | Bounty | what do you mean wow? |
| 04:14.00 | Bounty | why the fuck are your units like that |
| 04:14.00 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:14.07 | Bounty | ive done black and white before and never had that issue |
| 04:14.11 | AlphA_VsT | custom textures? |
| 04:14.38 | AlphA_VsT | black and white through lighting is fucking ugly and lame |
| 04:14.48 | Bounty | lol? |
| 04:14.51 | Bounty | no its not |
| 04:14.54 | Bounty | the exactly the same |
| 04:15.05 | Bounty | only no red hydras |
| 04:15.05 | AlphA_VsT | uh huh im sure it is |
| 04:15.06 | Bounty | >< |
| 04:15.54 | flyingspatula | howd u do that font. kinda like on smashcraft |
| 04:15.57 | Bounty | *shrug* just seems way to over complicated to me |
| 04:16.24 | Bounty | its prolly a font in the editor |
| 04:16.31 | AlphA_VsT | lol i redid the textures also |
| 04:16.31 | flyingspatula | o |
| 04:16.33 | Bounty | unless u can import fonts? which i was told you cant |
| 04:16.34 | AlphA_VsT | what font? |
| 04:16.42 | Bounty | top right corner |
| 04:16.42 | flyingspatula | i saw that font in game on smashcraft tho |
| 04:16.44 | AlphA_VsT | they are images... |
| 04:16.47 | flyingspatula | oh |
| 04:16.53 | Bounty | or that |
| 04:16.59 | AlphA_VsT | and im pretty sure its not the same font :P |
| 04:16.59 | Bounty | and wtf alpha |
| 04:17.05 | Bounty | wahts with the "..." |
| 04:17.07 | Bounty | like we knew that |
| 04:17.09 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:17.16 | Bounty | CLEARLY THAT IS AN IMAGE |
| 04:17.18 | Bounty | DUH |
| 04:17.34 | flyingspatula | guess u just need |
| 04:17.35 | flyingspatula | 0-9 huh |
| 04:17.39 | flyingspatula | for number |
| 04:17.42 | Bounty | I'm going to wipe my ass with your terrain |
| 04:17.46 | AlphA_VsT | yeah i have a function that sets it |
| 04:17.46 | Bounty | lololol |
| 04:17.47 | Bounty | get it? |
| 04:17.52 | Bounty | because its paper... |
| 04:18.34 | AlphA_VsT | yeah... |
| 04:18.49 | ProzaicMuze | So if I understand you correctly, you want the Hydralisk to lose its red color on the minimap AND in game? Or just on the minimap? |
| 04:19.16 | AlphA_VsT | on the texture :p |
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| 04:19.27 | ProzaicMuze | Then again, find the alpha layer |
| 04:19.44 | ProzaicMuze | Which will be on the normal.dds |
| 04:19.50 | ProzaicMuze | and in rare cases the specular.dds |
| 04:20.00 | ProzaicMuze | So whatever the crap you've called your normal map, that is where the alpha layer will be |
| 04:20.00 | AlphA_VsT | see i wasnt cahnging the normal 0.o |
| 04:23.29 | AlphA_VsT | so i will assume white is team color and black is not on normal maps :P |
| 04:23.30 | JademusSreg | If your export options didn't include an alpha channel, you may have lost the information when saving it. |
| 04:23.42 | ProzaicMuze | I believe white is the color, yes |
| 04:24.39 | AlphA_VsT | yeah it is cause my imported normal maps are white :P |
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| 04:27.17 | AlphA_VsT | ok going to try it :P |
| 04:27.29 | AlphA_VsT | hopefully this works haha |
| 04:27.54 | AlphA_VsT | I thought team color was on diffuse 0.o |
| 04:28.34 | ProzaicMuze | Are you saying it worked? |
| 04:29.01 | ProzaicMuze | And in some cases it can be |
| 04:29.11 | ProzaicMuze | It's ultimately decided by how you setup the materials in the .m3 |
| 04:29.17 | ProzaicMuze | But most cases involve using the normal or specular map |
| 04:29.46 | AlphA_VsT | nope |
| 04:30.15 | AlphA_VsT | im overriddign the default textures... |
| 04:30.55 | AlphA_VsT | still blue :P |
| 04:31.27 | ProzaicMuze | what files did you edit? |
| 04:31.38 | AlphA_VsT | the normal |
| 04:33.10 | ProzaicMuze | Are they entirely custom files or modified? |
| 04:33.36 | Bounty | also, havent you been working on this map for like a year now Alpha? |
| 04:33.41 | AlphA_VsT | nope |
| 04:33.51 | AlphA_VsT | i stopped working on it a long time ago |
| 04:34.02 | AlphA_VsT | i jsut started liek last thrusday again |
| 04:34.19 | AlphA_VsT | i redid everything |
| 04:34.39 | AlphA_VsT | well mostly everything |
| 04:36.21 | ProzaicMuze | You may want to look at the team colors section of this |
| 04:36.22 | ProzaicMuze | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/31795-tutorial-wow-models-into-sc2-with-team-colors/ |
| 04:36.54 | ProzaicMuze | You may need to hook it up in 3Ds as done there |
| 04:36.56 | ________________ | wow thats a new article |
| 04:37.00 | ________________ | didnt think people still wrote |
| 04:37.29 | Bounty | they dont |
| 04:37.32 | Bounty | its a conspiracy |
| 04:37.38 | Bounty | prozaic prolly just wrote that |
| 04:37.58 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 04:38.05 | ProzaicMuze | It's possible ;P |
| 04:38.33 | ________________ | haha |
| 04:38.48 | AlphA_VsT | omg |
| 04:39.46 | Bounty | random question |
| 04:39.59 | Bounty | is it possible to hide an entire level of terrain tiles? |
| 04:40.04 | Bounty | like cliff wise |
| 04:40.09 | Bounty | without using premade regions |
| 04:40.38 | AlphA_VsT | not that I know of |
| 04:42.04 | AlphA_VsT | wtf I turned him white |
| 04:42.18 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:42.24 | AlphA_VsT | and then i switched it back to black but saved the alpah as white and now hes blue again |
| 04:42.32 | AlphA_VsT | sigh :9 |
| 04:42.32 | Bounty | haha |
| 04:42.45 | Bounty | its amazing how much time you've spent on this one issue |
| 04:42.58 | Bounty | yet its so easily fixable if you're willing to mess with the lighting long enough |
| 04:43.01 | Bounty | =P |
| 04:43.03 | Bounty | KABOW |
| 04:43.07 | Bounty | P |
| 04:43.10 | Bounty | ow |
| 04:43.32 | AlphA_VsT | wait maybe becasue I am using mip maps? am i not suppose to? |
| 04:44.38 | Currydevil | alright, alpha.. my map sizes are 11x11, 21x21, 31x31 =P |
| 04:44.47 | Currydevil | so much for thinking 5x5, 7x7, and 9x9 hahah |
| 04:46.02 | AlphA_VsT | lololol what? |
| 04:46.22 | AlphA_VsT | is that grids across and down? |
| 04:46.46 | Currydevil | yes |
| 04:47.29 | Currydevil | 5x5 is about 2 screen widths at 1280x1024 |
| 04:47.35 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 04:47.38 | Currydevil | waaay too small for any length game |
| 04:48.20 | AlphA_VsT | hahaha |
| 04:54.44 | AlphA_VsT | im trying again with no mip maps 0.o |
| 04:54.49 | AlphA_VsT | idono if they will help :p |
| 04:55.15 | AlphA_VsT | I wish I could jsut fucking edit the model |
| 04:55.19 | AlphA_VsT | and be done with it |
| 04:56.39 | Bounty | Now this is a funny thread http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/general-chat/33878-dont-upload-maps-if-youre-not-going-to-upload-to-all/#p7 |
| 04:56.59 | Bounty | US has the best maps |
| 04:57.07 | Bounty | clearly |
| 04:57.10 | AlphA_VsT | nope |
| 04:57.21 | Bounty | What does EU have that we dont that is sooo good? |
| 04:57.52 | Bounty | Thats right |
| 04:57.55 | Bounty | Nuffing |
| 04:58.05 | AlphA_VsT | WHY cant i make this work :( |
| 04:58.21 | Bounty | Have you even tried what i said |
| 04:58.23 | AlphA_VsT | something so stupid is preventing me from uploading my map :( |
| 04:58.31 | Bounty | I think you underestimate the power of lighting |
| 04:59.02 | Bounty | wait what |
| 04:59.06 | Bounty | you cant upload it? whats it say |
| 05:00.19 | AlphA_VsT | it says im to stupid to edit these textures |
| 05:00.28 | Bounty | lol |
| 05:00.29 | AlphA_VsT | i have not tried to uplado it... |
| 05:00.47 | AlphA_VsT | I cant uplaod it becaise i need to fix these textures |
| 05:01.08 | Bounty | well i already told you my opinion |
| 05:01.18 | Bounty | you're really making this more complicated then it is |
| 05:01.27 | Bounty | for something as simple as black and white |
| 05:02.34 | AlphA_VsT | maybe becasue I don't want the default etxtures |
| 05:03.02 | AlphA_VsT | and if you think this http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-03-13%20at%208.02.17%20PM.png looks like teh default textures... |
| 05:03.28 | Bounty | ... |
| 05:03.35 | Bounty | how is it differant except for the colors |
| 05:04.13 | AlphA_VsT | its a lot fucking diffrent |
| 05:04.22 | Bounty | does anyone else see it? |
| 05:04.25 | Bounty | because i dont |
| 05:04.35 | ________________ | I like what you're doing alpha |
| 05:04.58 | Bounty | ok? |
| 05:05.03 | Bounty | im not saying i dont like what hes doing lol |
| 05:05.21 | Bounty | i just dont see how those look any differant than the normal textures with the exception obviously to colors |
| 05:05.22 | AlphA_VsT | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-03-13%20at%2010.04.37%20PM.png |
| 05:05.31 | AlphA_VsT | thats the texture for the marauder |
| 05:05.44 | ________________ | bounty you take words too literally |
| 05:06.19 | AlphA_VsT | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-03-13%20at%2010.04.37%20PM.png amd the normal araude rtexture |
| 05:06.21 | Bounty | Did you make 100% new textures or did you just modify the default ones to be black and white Alpha |
| 05:06.38 | AlphA_VsT | wtf does it look like |
| 05:06.45 | Bounty | ... |
| 05:06.48 | Bounty | it looks no differant |
| 05:06.52 | Bounty | also |
| 05:06.56 | Bounty | u linked the same picture |
| 05:06.57 | Bounty | lol |
| 05:07.03 | Bounty | so that might be the reason why they look the same |
| 05:07.07 | ________________ | oh but, ew mac |
| 05:07.51 | AlphA_VsT | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-03-13%20at%2010.04.42%20PM.png |
| 05:08.09 | AlphA_VsT | i hate dropbox soemtimes :P |
| 05:08.15 | Bounty | yeah, thats what im saying alpha |
| 05:08.22 | Bounty | its the same texture just modified to be black and white |
| 05:08.33 | Bounty | which is cool and all |
| 05:08.38 | Bounty | but you can do the EXACT same thing with lighting |
| 05:08.54 | AlphA_VsT | NO its not |
| 05:08.59 | ________________ | its not just black and white |
| 05:09.07 | AlphA_VsT | it has the same layout yes |
| 05:09.07 | ________________ | alpha, do a color swap for him |
| 05:09.09 | ________________ | so he can see |
| 05:09.29 | Bounty | im sitting here swapping between the two |
| 05:09.37 | Bounty | if im missing something |
| 05:09.43 | Bounty | its such a minor detail it wont matter in game |
| 05:10.04 | Bounty | but like i said |
| 05:10.06 | JademusSreg | That's a lovely design philosophy. |
| 05:10.08 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 05:10.17 | Bounty | i know isnt it |
| 05:10.19 | Bounty | lol |
| 05:10.40 | AlphA_VsT | you can tell the difference 0.o |
| 05:10.45 | Bounty | it makes sense thought from his maps perspective, its just default RTS |
| 05:10.56 | Bounty | jade |
| 05:11.03 | Bounty | can u tell the differance between those two textures |
| 05:11.10 | Bounty | besides the color swap |
| 05:11.30 | Bounty | and can't you do that exact same effect using lighting |
| 05:11.44 | Bounty | annnnnd, GO, JademusSreg >< |
| 05:12.13 | ________________ | you sir, are stubborn... 1 sec, ill color swap it so you can see its not the same |
| 05:15.22 | ________________ | this, sir, is a greyscale version of the marauder texture |
| 05:15.27 | ________________ | http://imgur.com/h89gs |
| 05:15.38 | ________________ | if you invert it you can imagine itl be a lot more white |
| 05:15.41 | ________________ | what he did |
| 05:15.42 | ________________ | was |
| 05:16.06 | ________________ | apply artistic filters to the texture |
| 05:16.33 | ________________ | im guessing a paint daub, fesco, or cut out sort of filter |
| 05:16.48 | ________________ | then swapped colors around, greyscaled it and called it a day |
| 05:16.55 | ________________ | that gives it a pencil and paper look |
| 05:17.46 | AlphA_VsT | something like that :P |
| 05:18.23 | AlphA_VsT | little bit more to it than that but yeah :p |
| 05:21.03 | AlphA_VsT | now if i could only fix this shit |
| 05:21.55 | Bounty | back sorry had to pee >< |
| 05:22.13 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 05:22.15 | Bounty | ok |
| 05:22.25 | Bounty | well you win that battle |
| 05:22.26 | AlphA_VsT | i think i might have fixed it i hope |
| 05:22.27 | Bounty | but |
| 05:22.32 | AlphA_VsT | LOLOLOL |
| 05:22.36 | Bounty | you can still do the same effect using lighting |
| 05:22.37 | Currydevil | yay for random level generator! |
| 05:22.42 | AlphA_VsT | no you cant |
| 05:22.42 | Bounty | >< |
| 05:22.48 | Bounty | yes u can |
| 05:22.55 | AlphA_VsT | do black and white lighting and still use color |
| 05:22.56 | AlphA_VsT | go |
| 05:23.06 | Bounty | wait what |
| 05:23.16 | Bounty | do black and white lighting and still use color? |
| 05:23.21 | Bounty | u cant |
| 05:23.23 | AlphA_VsT | my points use team color |
| 05:23.25 | Bounty | thats why its black and white |
| 05:23.29 | AlphA_VsT | but you said you can do the same thing |
| 05:23.33 | Bounty | yeah |
| 05:23.38 | Bounty | u said ur map is black and white |
| 05:23.41 | Bounty | which it is |
| 05:23.43 | AlphA_VsT | YES! |
| 05:23.45 | AlphA_VsT | it is |
| 05:23.47 | Bounty | why would you want color? |
| 05:24.05 | Currydevil | for the minimap |
| 05:24.30 | Bounty | black and white lighting wouldnt affect the minimap? |
| 05:24.36 | Currydevil | i dunno |
| 05:24.37 | Currydevil | lol |
| 05:24.40 | Bounty | lol |
| 05:24.49 | AlphA_VsT | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-03-13%20at%2010.23.49%20PM.png |
| 05:24.50 | AlphA_VsT | BAM! |
| 05:24.52 | AlphA_VsT | it worked |
| 05:25.07 | AlphA_VsT | no it would effect the color on the map |
| 05:25.09 | Bounty | no it didnt |
| 05:25.14 | Bounty | i still see a red ass hydra |
| 05:25.19 | Currydevil | ah because he wanted to use black and white models, but keep the team color on the control points |
| 05:25.27 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 05:25.42 | AlphA_VsT | i have not gotten to the hydras |
| 05:25.44 | AlphA_VsT | 0.o |
| 05:25.46 | Currydevil | zombies are butt ugly, they look good in salmon pink |
| 05:25.52 | AlphA_VsT | i fixed the marauder |
| 05:26.06 | AlphA_VsT | but now i knwo wtf i was doign wrong |
| 05:26.12 | AlphA_VsT | i was using mip maps :( |
| 05:26.15 | AlphA_VsT | LOLOLOL |
| 05:26.26 | JademusSreg | Yeah, that's bad. |
| 05:26.37 | Bounty | I do like that blood effect though |
| 05:26.46 | Bounty | black and white while still keeping the red blood color is neat |
| 05:26.54 | Bounty | very artistic of you |
| 05:26.56 | Bounty | =P |
| 05:26.58 | AlphA_VsT | thanks |
| 05:27.15 | AlphA_VsT | i will add more color later not a whole lot though |
| 05:27.27 | Bounty | just keep the blood imo |
| 05:27.43 | AlphA_VsT | you will see :P |
| 05:27.44 | Bounty | are you going to make the UI black and white? |
| 05:27.56 | Bounty | also |
| 05:27.58 | AlphA_VsT | yeah |
| 05:28.08 | Bounty | Why the fuck would you pull a Bounty and stop working on this? |
| 05:28.17 | AlphA_VsT | I'm not now :P |
| 05:28.25 | AlphA_VsT | i got tired of it |
| 05:28.26 | Bounty | Could have been done by now |
| 05:28.31 | Bounty | Ah |
| 05:28.37 | Bounty | So you actually did pull a bounty |
| 05:28.39 | Bounty | >< |
| 05:28.50 | AlphA_VsT | but every project i started I just wanted to do this map again |
| 05:28.50 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 05:28.54 | AlphA_VsT | but yeah |
| 05:29.14 | Bounty | I'm to creative for my own good |
| 05:29.22 | AlphA_VsT | it waas either finish the terrian on my hide and seek map or do this :p |
| 05:29.37 | AlphA_VsT | and fuck that terrain |
| 05:29.51 | Currydevil | http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f360/onestepahead1011/gentrigger.jpg |
| 05:30.00 | Bounty | Sometimes i speak to God and ask him "God, why did you make me to creative for my own good?" |
| 05:30.02 | Currydevil | no locations set save the start |
| 05:30.24 | Currydevil | after i set 24 locations the other day. |
| 05:30.58 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 05:30.59 | AlphA_VsT | wow |
| 05:31.04 | AlphA_VsT | that looks just like mine :D |
| 05:31.07 | Currydevil | 961 locations =P |
| 05:31.17 | Bounty | I think my problem is every new song i listen to i think of a new map for said song |
| 05:31.22 | Bounty | Anyone else do that? lol |
| 05:31.29 | AlphA_VsT | nope |
| 05:31.32 | Currydevil | nah |
| 05:31.35 | AlphA_VsT | i dont lsiten to music when i map |
| 05:31.37 | Bounty | Like, base an entire game around a soundtrack |
| 05:31.38 | AlphA_VsT | lololol |
| 05:31.46 | AlphA_VsT | your the music freak here |
| 05:31.52 | Bounty | Maybe thats why people say i'm good at setpieces? |
| 05:31.55 | Bounty | and thats about it |
| 05:31.56 | Bounty | lol |
| 05:32.07 | AlphA_VsT | fucking my map uses in game music from lost viking |
| 05:32.13 | Bounty | psh |
| 05:32.15 | Bounty | fuck that man |
| 05:32.15 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 05:32.17 | Bounty | dont fuck it up |
| 05:32.20 | Bounty | that map deserves better |
| 05:32.25 | AlphA_VsT | its good music |
| 05:32.29 | AlphA_VsT | it fits |
| 05:32.33 | Bounty | i know but u can do better than that |
| 05:32.34 | Bounty | what song? |
| 05:32.36 | Bounty | link? |
| 05:32.40 | Bounty | ive never heard it |
| 05:32.49 | AlphA_VsT | the boss loop |
| 05:33.04 | AlphA_VsT | techno music :P |
| 05:33.32 | Bounty | noo |
| 05:33.34 | Bounty | :( |
| 05:33.46 | Currydevil | lol |
| 05:34.31 | Currydevil | oy, i need to get new textures for this cube model. it's too bright |
| 05:34.47 | Currydevil | or a new model for a doodad. |
| 05:34.55 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 05:35.05 | Bounty | You need a song that like |
| 05:35.09 | Bounty | If i were to hear it |
| 05:35.19 | Bounty | The first thing i would think of is black and white sc2 units fighting on paper |
| 05:35.24 | Bounty | lol |
| 05:35.25 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 05:35.30 | AlphA_VsT | yeah? |
| 05:35.34 | Bounty | yep |
| 05:35.38 | Bounty | dont worry |
| 05:35.40 | Bounty | im looking |
| 05:35.41 | AlphA_VsT | go find it |
| 05:35.43 | Bounty | lol |
| 05:35.54 | AlphA_VsT | it has to loop |
| 05:36.02 | Bounty | all music loops |
| 05:36.08 | Bounty | if its set to default |
| 05:36.09 | AlphA_VsT | seamless loop |
| 05:36.46 | AlphA_VsT | thats what a "loop" is not a looping action |
| 05:37.09 | AlphA_VsT | silly bounty :P |
| 05:40.19 | Bounty | found it finally lol |
| 05:40.27 | Bounty | hope u dont find it cliche |
| 05:40.38 | Bounty | only this version of this song would work though bc it has the base drum |
| 05:40.41 | Bounty | bass* |
| 05:40.42 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm-C7a1mo08 |
| 05:45.50 | AlphA_VsT | really |
| 05:46.20 | Bounty | makes alot more sense than fucking techno |
| 05:46.21 | Bounty | lol |
| 05:46.28 | Bounty | =P |
| 05:46.39 | AlphA_VsT | wtf do you call that? |
| 05:46.53 | Bounty | what do i call what |
| 05:46.58 | Bounty | how doesnt that song make sense |
| 05:47.08 | AlphA_VsT | what is that music? |
| 05:47.17 | Bounty | genre wise? |
| 05:47.19 | AlphA_VsT | yeah |
| 05:47.21 | Bounty | not sure actually |
| 05:47.26 | AlphA_VsT | techno :p |
| 05:47.29 | Bounty | lots of piano |
| 05:47.34 | Bounty | so therefore not techno |
| 05:47.36 | Bounty | lol |
| 05:47.39 | AlphA_VsT | yes it is :P |
| 05:47.44 | AlphA_VsT | I SAY SO! |
| 05:48.00 | Bounty | well i mean waht are you going for |
| 05:48.07 | Bounty | either A. For the lulz |
| 05:48.10 | Bounty | or B. Super Serious |
| 05:48.33 | Currydevil | that's the refined gentleman's techno? lots of piano |
| 05:48.33 | Dustin|Alt | Theres no good beam tuts out |
| 05:49.10 | Bounty | Because if you're going for the lulz Alpha |
| 05:49.18 | Bounty | i know what song you should use |
| 05:49.22 | AlphA_VsT | im not |
| 05:49.24 | Bounty | and you're map will go down in history |
| 05:49.27 | QueenG | any good custom maps u guys can recommend? |
| 05:49.30 | Bounty | well im gonna link it anyways |
| 05:49.33 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 05:49.33 | Bounty | because i think it fits that good |
| 05:49.35 | QueenG | im trying to try all the hidden gems |
| 05:49.41 | Bounty | now you have to vision it |
| 05:49.43 | Bounty | playing your map |
| 05:49.46 | Bounty | and this is the music playing |
| 05:49.50 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1svDZECOa4 |
| 05:49.59 | AlphA_VsT | i can play map at the song at the same time |
| 05:50.08 | Bounty | do it lol |
| 05:50.34 | Bounty | *whistles* |
| 05:51.24 | AlphA_VsT | no :p |
| 05:51.41 | Bounty | shame |
| 05:51.52 | Bounty | that song would fit so well, especially with the black and white lol |
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| 05:52.23 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 05:53.20 | AlphA_VsT | zombies down |
| 05:54.17 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uae554l3pE |
| 05:54.19 | Bounty | there ya go |
| 05:54.22 | AlphA_VsT | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-03-13%20at%2010.53.27%20PM.png |
| 05:54.23 | AlphA_VsT | bam |
| 05:54.25 | Bounty | lol |
| 05:55.44 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 05:56.28 | AlphA_VsT | also i don't want my game being removed for using copyrighted music :p |
| 05:56.50 | Bounty | lol w/e u say |
| 05:56.54 | Bounty | even though its never happend |
| 05:57.20 | ________________ | just use um |
| 05:57.24 | ________________ | that thing |
| 05:57.30 | ________________ | 'fair use' |
| 05:57.57 | ________________ | Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use. |
| 05:57.58 | ________________ | that |
| 05:58.14 | Currydevil | ahaha this is so nice. |
| 05:58.51 | Currydevil | Nice alpha, looking a little like Alien there ;) |
| 06:02.40 | AlphA_VsT | doesnt matter... |
| 06:02.53 | AlphA_VsT | thing called a TOS! |
| 06:03.15 | AlphA_VsT | pretty sure it says you cant use copyright material |
| 06:04.21 | ________________ | well, the fact that most ppl don't know about fair use is why a lot of projects like yours for example get taken down if they use copywrited music |
| 06:04.39 | ________________ | you can claim fair use prior and usually you won't get touched |
| 06:04.53 | ________________ | but, in an SC II map... the companies dont go trolling for their music anyway |
| 06:05.01 | ________________ | so u wont get noticed either way |
| 06:05.09 | AlphA_VsT | true but still :P |
| 06:05.14 | ________________ | cuz, its the companies that have to look for the cp music, not blizzard |
| 06:05.43 | AlphA_VsT | i don't even care though i don't need it :p |
| 06:05.47 | ________________ | :p |
| 06:05.53 | ________________ | just educating for the sake of it |
| 06:06.13 | AlphA_VsT | ok :D |
| 06:06.49 | AlphA_VsT | i updated all the textures hope it works hahaha |
| 06:08.27 | AlphA_VsT | haha nope :p |
| 06:08.39 | AlphA_VsT | i didnt change something right on the old units :P |
| 06:08.45 | Currydevil | oops |
| 06:32.11 | AlphA_VsT | ALMOST! |
| 06:32.43 | AlphA_VsT | so excited :P |
| 06:32.52 | AlphA_VsT | tomorrow I will do a video lol |
| 06:33.05 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 06:33.21 | flyingspatula | ok i really dont see how using datatable is better |
| 06:33.22 | AlphA_VsT | I will release it asap though |
| 06:33.26 | flyingspatula | im so cofnfused |
| 06:33.32 | flyingspatula | paper zombies map? |
| 06:33.39 | AlphA_VsT | depends on what you are doing |
| 06:33.41 | AlphA_VsT | and yes |
| 06:33.45 | flyingspatula | well |
| 06:33.51 | flyingspatula | just in general for datatables |
| 06:34.42 | flyingspatula | like |
| 06:34.57 | flyingspatula | so theres 2 data tables one for global and private? u cant make ur own? |
| 06:34.58 | flyingspatula | or what |
| 06:35.54 | flyingspatula | i guess i wont mess with datatables for now |
| 06:36.07 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 06:36.10 | AlphA_VsT | i never have |
| 06:36.16 | flyingspatula | ah |
| 06:36.18 | flyingspatula | \\well |
| 06:36.26 | flyingspatula | one thing i usually put off the most about mapping |
| 06:36.34 | flyingspatula | is the actual game stuff like modes and etc |
| 06:36.43 | flyingspatula | im good at making systems but not general shit |
| 06:36.44 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 06:36.46 | flyingspatula | so im slower at it |
| 06:38.25 | flyingspatula | do u think theres really any way to make a hide n seek *competitive* |
| 06:39.55 | AlphA_VsT | my map is completely random you don't get to pick shit |
| 06:40.08 | AlphA_VsT | sure there is :P |
| 06:40.15 | Currydevil | bah |
| 06:40.31 | Currydevil | trying to set a smaller level size and the generator is acting goofy now |
| 06:41.10 | AlphA_VsT | lol ops |
| 06:41.44 | Currydevil | hmmmmm |
| 06:42.37 | Currydevil | that's lame lol |
| 06:42.58 | Currydevil | if i don't start the map with the region in the top left of the level bounds |
| 06:43.02 | AlphA_VsT | i have a weird issue 0.o |
| 06:43.03 | Currydevil | it gets really goofy |
| 06:43.17 | Currydevil | even though I move it there before anything gets created |
| 06:43.18 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 06:43.41 | AlphA_VsT | maybe you need to wait for it to move? |
| 06:43.43 | AlphA_VsT | idono |
| 06:44.00 | AlphA_VsT | i have to fix this issue :( |
| 06:44.25 | Currydevil | what issue? |
| 06:44.44 | AlphA_VsT | my 2 untis i jsut changed |
| 06:44.47 | AlphA_VsT | are tinted black |
| 06:44.55 | AlphA_VsT | but if you get real close they are fine |
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| 07:06.08 | AlphA_VsT | Rawr |
| 07:06.16 | Bounty | true |
| 07:06.42 | Currydevil | Well, i fixed that problem. Now ... just got a bad seed haha, bunch of closed off areas |
| 07:07.00 | Currydevil | I might have to start checking the edges of each gird now. |
| 07:07.06 | Currydevil | grid |
| 07:07.25 | AlphA_VsT | :P |
| 07:07.48 | Currydevil | and on the small size, that's no good =( |
| 07:07.58 | Currydevil | at least with the epic size there's more places to go |
| 07:08.35 | AlphA_VsT | haha |
| 07:10.12 | Currydevil | that one closed up the bottom 3rd of the level |
| 07:11.19 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 07:11.22 | AlphA_VsT | ops |
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| 07:14.00 | Currydevil | well this is going to be fun. |
| 07:14.05 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 07:14.06 | AlphA_VsT | why |
| 07:14.44 | Currydevil | because i'll have to be able to check the edges of each grid as i place it with at least the grid right before and the grid in the row above it |
| 07:15.04 | Currydevil | so i'll have to store the edge codes as i go, then figure out how to check them based on what row i'm on. |
| 07:15.06 | Currydevil | lol |
| 07:15.26 | Currydevil | won't be too hard actually |
| 07:15.35 | Currydevil | because i'll know how long my rows are |
| 07:16.00 | AlphA_VsT | yeah |
| 07:16.16 | AlphA_VsT | still difficult and eww |
| 07:16.24 | Currydevil | yes ... yes indeed |
| 07:16.34 | Currydevil | but now i have it able to pick 3 level sizes |
| 07:16.41 | Currydevil | normal, long, epic |
| 07:17.30 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 07:20.21 | Currydevil | suppose I should set the last few edge vars when I had only 12 patterns left to setup haha |
| 07:21.21 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 07:22.15 | Currydevil | so, i labeled each edge in order of top, right, bottom, left with 1-4 based on which egde had the most walls. |
| 07:22.22 | Currydevil | most walled side is a 1 |
| 07:22.35 | Currydevil | or if I have an L shape, it has two sides at 1 |
| 07:22.58 | Currydevil | the checker will run and make sure i'm not putting 2 grids together with 1 matching a 1 |
| 07:24.37 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 07:26.45 | AlphA_VsT | restart editor every 30 sec pretty much qq |
| 07:26.50 | ________________ | ew |
| 07:26.53 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 07:26.56 | Currydevil | bummer |
| 07:28.05 | AlphA_VsT | trying to fix this wall |
| 07:28.10 | AlphA_VsT | but it keeps being white |
| 07:29.24 | Currydevil | damn white walls.... who do they think they are |
| 07:31.19 | ________________ | +1 @ curry |
| 07:37.23 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 07:38.41 | AlphA_VsT | i can see a little bit of texture i dont get it |
| 07:38.52 | AlphA_VsT | the files are the same as my old ones 0.o |
| 07:40.04 | AlphA_VsT | im not going to bed till i finish these textures :P |
| 07:41.26 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 07:43.44 | AlphA_VsT | i wish the edito could reset the cache 0.o |
| 07:48.11 | ________________ | http://imgur.com/YDNLQ |
| 07:49.13 | AlphA_VsT | ewww |
| 07:49.26 | ________________ | mutha fukin pizzception |
| 07:49.51 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 07:54.32 | AlphA_VsT | I wish this shit would be simple lol |
| 07:54.35 | AlphA_VsT | like it should be |
| 07:57.03 | AlphA_VsT | i spend more time restarting the editor 0.o |
| 07:59.50 | AlphA_VsT | fucking shit man |
| 08:00.02 | AlphA_VsT | shouldnt be this hard |
| 08:01.41 | AlphA_VsT | i cahnged the texture and it worked :( |
| 08:01.46 | AlphA_VsT | odd |
| 08:12.14 | AlphA_VsT | pissing me off |
| 08:15.54 | AlphA_VsT | ive done this shit liek 100 times |
| 08:23.42 | flyingspatula | hey u can pretty much use every terrain type in a single map right |
| 08:23.47 | flyingspatula | havent done alot of terrain |
| 08:24.00 | Currydevil | texture wise? there is a limit of 8 |
| 08:24.08 | flyingspatula | ugh |
| 08:24.11 | flyingspatula | really? |
| 08:24.13 | Currydevil | mhm |
| 08:24.16 | flyingspatula | i thot u could use every texture |
| 08:24.23 | Currydevil | you can swap them out. |
| 08:24.29 | Currydevil | but you can only have 8 per map |
| 08:24.39 | flyingspatula | there goes my 4 map zones |
| 08:24.52 | Currydevil | hehe |
| 08:32.29 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 08:32.35 | AlphA_VsT | you can still do it |
| 08:32.41 | Currydevil | be creative |
| 08:32.47 | AlphA_VsT | you can layer texture to create almost anything |
| 08:33.09 | flyingspatula | well the diff map zones were pretty much completely different |
| 08:33.15 | flyingspatula | like even spacestation etc |
| 08:33.31 | AlphA_VsT | you can have 4 texture same texture and 2 textures for each zone that are mostly used and really diffrent |
| 08:33.47 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 08:34.30 | AlphA_VsT | i hope this works |
| 08:35.54 | AlphA_VsT | FUCK ME! |
| 08:36.01 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 08:37.09 | AlphA_VsT | i cant fucking change this texture without it turning white |
| 08:37.49 | AlphA_VsT | no idea why |
| 08:38.30 | AlphA_VsT | HMMM! |
| 08:38.42 | flyingspatula | JADE HELP HIM OUT BRO |
| 08:39.22 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 08:39.24 | AlphA_VsT | he cant |
| 08:40.37 | Currydevil | ahh this edgechecker is beating me. |
| 08:41.17 | Currydevil | not sure how to put it in without duplicating code... |
| 08:41.53 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 08:42.23 | AlphA_VsT | save the values to an array |
| 08:42.25 | AlphA_VsT | or soemthing |
| 08:42.32 | Currydevil | that's not it. |
| 08:42.37 | Currydevil | i got that already |
| 08:42.41 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 08:42.52 | Currydevil | i already set the values for each pattern |
| 08:42.55 | Currydevil | so those are done. |
| 08:43.14 | Currydevil | as I run the generator, i need to then store them for at least a single row at a time |
| 08:43.19 | Currydevil | that's np. |
| 08:43.45 | Currydevil | but what happens when I find a pair I don't want matched? |
| 08:43.56 | AlphA_VsT | use a while |
| 08:43.58 | Currydevil | I need it to repick a pattern and check again. |
| 08:44.12 | Currydevil | oh yeah |
| 08:44.16 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 08:44.24 | Currydevil | i'm trying to use If's but a while would be better huh |
| 08:44.30 | AlphA_VsT | yes |
| 08:44.37 | AlphA_VsT | a single if in a while |
| 08:44.56 | AlphA_VsT | or such |
| 08:45.07 | Currydevil | ok, that puts a new face on it. brb |
| 08:45.09 | AlphA_VsT | just pick a new random value till you get one |
| 08:45.24 | AlphA_VsT | that will work with the face value |
| 08:45.59 | AlphA_VsT | for soem reason black works when i change the texture |
| 08:46.01 | AlphA_VsT | 0.o |
| 08:46.03 | Currydevil | lol |
| 08:46.17 | Currydevil | btw, do functions require you to use ALL the parameters all the time? |
| 08:46.35 | Currydevil | i suppose if so, i could just pass 0 to the 3rd param when I don't need it. |
| 08:47.31 | AlphA_VsT | YES THEY DO |
| 08:47.32 | AlphA_VsT | OPS |
| 08:47.43 | AlphA_VsT | it will pass an error then saving :P |
| 08:47.55 | Currydevil | ok, i'll just pass a 0 instead of making 2 diff functions for diff amounts of edges to check |
| 08:48.29 | Currydevil | 0's won't mess it up.. basically just checking to see if the edges == 1 |
| 08:48.32 | AlphA_VsT | why would you have to cehck diffrent amounts? |
| 08:48.44 | Currydevil | the first row doesn't need to check with a row before it. |
| 08:49.00 | Currydevil | the 2nd row and on will check the rows above too as well as the prior grid |
| 08:49.11 | AlphA_VsT | oh yeah true |
| 08:49.26 | AlphA_VsT | im testing grey color lol |
| 08:49.31 | Currydevil | oo |
| 08:49.35 | AlphA_VsT | this is fuckign stupid :( |
| 08:50.46 | AlphA_VsT | fuck me lol |
| 08:51.22 | AlphA_VsT | fuck it |
| 08:51.24 | AlphA_VsT | do it later |
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| 08:52.17 | AlphA_VsT | no idea why the texture turns white |
| 08:52.18 | AlphA_VsT | :( |
| 08:52.51 | Currydevil | hmmm |
| 08:52.53 | Currydevil | so |
| 08:53.43 | Currydevil | does this make sense: IF > OR > AND > A==1 B==1 AND > C==1 D==1 ? |
| 08:53.52 | Currydevil | or does the OR need to go between the ANDs? |
| 08:53.53 | Currydevil | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:55.04 | AlphA_VsT | nope |
| 08:55.22 | Currydevil | doesn't make sense or it does? |
| 08:55.30 | AlphA_VsT | so you want it a+b or c+d right? |
| 08:55.35 | Currydevil | yeah |
| 08:55.37 | AlphA_VsT | yeah |
| 08:55.56 | AlphA_VsT | should work |
| 08:56.03 | Currydevil | ok |
| 08:56.23 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 08:56.27 | Kueken | xD, you could go custom script and type a&&b||c&&d :D |
| 08:56.32 | AlphA_VsT | fuck it using the old textures for now |
| 08:56.36 | Currydevil | meh =D |
| 08:56.44 | AlphA_VsT | same thing :P |
| 08:57.26 | Kueken | just a little faster, I guess ;) |
| 08:57.48 | Kueken | not performance-wise, just development time |
| 08:57.59 | Currydevil | heh, syntax error |
| 08:58.21 | Kueken | well, that was pseudo-code, you cannot just enter it that way |
| 08:58.28 | Currydevil | not yours lol |
| 08:58.29 | Currydevil | haha |
| 08:58.31 | Currydevil | mine |
| 08:58.52 | Kueken | :p |
| 08:59.39 | Currydevil | oh there we go. |
| 09:00.16 | Currydevil | I added 2 new parameters in the function, but then didn't send 2 new values in the one call I had setup already |
| 09:00.41 | Kueken | yep, that sounds syntax error-ish |
| 09:01.46 | Currydevil | agh, i'll worry about it in the morning. |
| 09:01.52 | Currydevil | i need to sleep or i'll be up all night. |
| 09:03.37 | Kueken | heh |
| 09:03.42 | Kueken | the joy of EU |
| 09:03.45 | Kueken | 10 am her |
| 09:03.45 | Kueken | e |
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| 09:11.19 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
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| 09:28.07 | AlphA_VsT | I swear it is something |
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| 09:30.04 | tordy | sup guys |
| 09:30.08 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 09:30.26 | tordy | who's awake at this hour? |
| 09:30.30 | tordy | cmon raise your hand dont be shy! |
| 09:30.50 | Helral|Work | fails to raise his hand. |
| 09:31.20 | Helral|Work | looks at his paws, then swipes at tordy. |
| 09:32.12 | tordy | helral do you know if there's a way to conveniently increase the damage of everything? |
| 09:32.20 | tordy | sort of like how handicap increase life of everything |
| 09:33.46 | Helral|Work | handicap reduces life of your units.... |
| 09:34.00 | tordy | but you can also increase it by setting handicap beyond 100 |
| 09:34.22 | Helral|Work | ahhh... still used to the war3 handicap (50-100) orso |
| 09:34.28 | AlphA_VsT | ops hive didnt update 0.o |
| 09:34.35 | tordy | but unfortunately only upto 255 because it's an unsigned 8 bit value |
| 09:34.40 | Helral|Work | hehehe |
| 09:34.44 | tordy | afterwards it'll just loop back down to 0 |
| 09:35.13 | tordy | oh man i really have to put every damage? |
| 09:35.17 | tordy | so damn tedious |
| 09:35.45 | Helral|Work | well you can always use a behavior for it, which you apply to everything. |
| 09:35.53 | tordy | i dont like that way |
| 09:35.55 | tordy | it's ugly |
| 09:36.01 | Helral|Work | true |
| 09:36.09 | tordy | especially since i have lots of levels |
| 09:36.20 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 09:36.34 | Helral|Work | but that would be the fastest method |
| 09:36.36 | AlphA_VsT | i hope this set correctly |
| 09:37.24 | AlphA_VsT | FUCK ME! |
| 09:37.53 | tordy | guess i could write a small program that parses the xml data and then adds levels accordingly |
| 09:38.06 | tordy | boobies |
| 09:40.20 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 09:40.37 | tordy | i love banks |
| 09:40.39 | tordy | I LOVE BANKS |
| 09:40.56 | tordy | now if only... DUSTIN BROWDER.... give us some damn server-side banks! |
| 09:40.57 | tordy | PLEASE |
| 09:41.11 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 09:44.14 | AlphA_VsT | WTF |
| 09:44.30 | tordy | sup |
| 09:45.11 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 09:46.01 | tordy | dustin browder cmon man |
| 09:46.03 | tordy | Dustin|Alt: |
| 09:46.40 | Helral|Work | ~8ball does tordy make any sense? |
| 09:46.40 | purl | Are you smoking crack? |
| 09:46.45 | Helral|Work | ~8ball nope |
| 09:46.46 | purl | I'm not sure. |
| 09:46.50 | Helral|Work | ;p |
| 09:47.31 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 09:48.10 | tordy | ~seen otixa |
| 09:48.12 | purl | otixa <~otixa@petionet.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 97d 3h 48m 5s ago, saying: 'i.e. G'mornin'. |
| 09:48.17 | Helral|Work | ~8ball does AlphA_VsT know what map he's making? |
| 09:48.17 | purl | I'm sure of it. |
| 09:48.21 | tordy | almost 100 days :( |
| 09:48.22 | RipperRoo | throws a chair at helrak... START WORKING |
| 09:48.25 | tordy | we shall miss Otixa so |
| 09:48.47 | Helral|Work | sees a chair flying through the air and hitting something called helrak... |
| 09:48.52 | Helral|Work | did not get hit. |
| 09:49.01 | tordy | oh god im already losing it |
| 09:49.09 | tordy | who's the other admin of sc2m other than sixen |
| 09:49.11 | tordy | starts with a v |
| 09:49.15 | tordy | im forgetting them! |
| 09:49.18 | Helral|Work | vjeux |
| 09:49.28 | tordy | im getting old |
| 09:49.31 | tordy | my memory is not what it was |
| 09:49.41 | Helral|Work | tordy, my memory never was something... |
| 09:49.43 | Xaragoth | saw him recently |
| 09:49.48 | Xaragoth | on skype |
| 09:49.51 | tordy | vjeux? |
| 09:49.53 | Xaragoth | but no idea what the fuck he is doing |
| 09:49.54 | Xaragoth | ye |
| 09:50.02 | tordy | and otixa? |
| 09:50.08 | tordy | may he rest in peace |
| 09:50.09 | Xaragoth | still around yes |
| 09:50.17 | Xaragoth | even got PM on my skype |
| 09:50.17 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 09:50.36 | Helral|Work | throws a chair at RipperRoo and meows "Have a seat" |
| 09:50.47 | RipperRoo | :S work!! |
| 09:50.55 | Helral|Work | meows innocently |
| 09:51.15 | Helral|Work | RipperRoo, are you my boss in disguise? |
| 09:51.17 | RipperRoo | or il get a dog here :P |
| 09:51.22 | RipperRoo | actually |
| 09:51.22 | Xaragoth | throws Helral a fish |
| 09:51.23 | RipperRoo | yes ! |
| 09:51.32 | AlphA_VsT | OMG |
| 09:51.34 | Helral|Work | eats the fish |
| 09:55.25 | AlphA_VsT | :( |
| 09:55.30 | AlphA_VsT | its the little things |
| 09:55.34 | AlphA_VsT | that are pissing me off right now |
| 09:58.47 | tordy | what little things |
| 09:59.19 | AlphA_VsT | on this map lol |
| 09:59.58 | AlphA_VsT | im caring less and less not very important |
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| 10:12.11 | AlphA_VsT | ok thats fine |
| 10:15.27 | AlphA_VsT | uploading the mod :P |
| 10:17.50 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 10:19.25 | AlphA_VsT | ewwww |
| 10:19.26 | AlphA_VsT | fuck me |
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| 10:23.51 | AlphA_VsT | I have a odd issue :P |
| 10:29.28 | Kueken | add 1, then its an even issue |
| 10:30.17 | A1win | wait what, I don't even- |
| 10:31.32 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 10:31.50 | AlphA_VsT | i fucking uploaded the wrong version :D |
| 10:32.02 | Kueken | you see? ;) |
| 10:32.06 | Kueken | add 1 version number |
| 10:32.20 | Kueken | *cough* |
| 10:32.29 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 10:33.35 | Kueken | so your issue disappeared? |
| 10:34.32 | AlphA_VsT | not really |
| 10:34.34 | AlphA_VsT | but yeah |
| 10:36.19 | Kueken | sounds a little contradicting, but well... |
| 10:38.24 | AlphA_VsT | YEAH I KNOW |
| 10:38.27 | AlphA_VsT | fuck |
| 10:38.39 | Xaragoth | http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/yahoo-answers-troll-art-of-trolling-now-kiss.gif |
| 10:38.39 | Xaragoth | lol |
| 10:38.43 | AlphA_VsT | well I'm not what I want to do now :P |
| 10:40.23 | AlphA_VsT | sure :p |
| 10:41.34 | AlphA_VsT | it kinda lags on bnet :( |
| 10:41.48 | AlphA_VsT | I can feel the delay 0.o |
| 10:41.57 | AlphA_VsT | and thats with one person :( |
| 10:46.13 | AlphA_VsT | and soemthing else broke :( |
| 10:48.13 | AlphA_VsT | well version .1 is open to the public 0.o :P |
| 10:49.26 | AlphA_VsT | I have a lot to do :P |
| 10:54.56 | tordy | sup guys |
| 11:03.40 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
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| 11:06.58 | AlphA_VsT | sigh |
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| 11:19.46 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 11:19.54 | ________________ | jumps |
| 11:20.15 | Helral|Work | looks at ----------------- |
| 11:20.34 | ________________ | wonders who Helral is looking at |
| 11:20.43 | Helral|Work | you in the air ;p |
| 11:20.57 | ________________ | lol |
| 11:21.25 | ________________ | --(^_^--) |
| 11:21.30 | Helral|Work | too bad that there was space between the --- while there isn't between the ___ |
| 11:21.37 | ________________ | yup |
| 11:21.52 | ________________ | purl, why is there space between dashes? |
| 11:21.52 | purl | why not? |
| 11:21.56 | ________________ | ! |
| 11:21.56 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 11:21.57 | ________________ | wtf |
| 11:21.59 | ________________ | biitch |
| 11:22.08 | ________________ | purl, ur a whore |
| 11:22.16 | Helral|Work | purl who is ________________ |
| 11:22.16 | purl | i guess ________________ is made of lines and homosexuals |
| 11:22.22 | ________________ | D: |
| 11:22.25 | Helral|Work | O.o |
| 11:22.33 | ________________ | ~Helral |
| 11:22.33 | purl | well, helral is an evil ethereal random kitten who must not be let near laser pens. |
| 11:22.42 | ________________ | *nods* |
| 11:22.45 | ________________ | purl, nod with me |
| 11:22.50 | Helral|Work | meows innocently |
| 11:22.53 | ________________ | i said nod |
| 11:22.54 | ________________ | ~nod |
| 11:22.54 | purl | ACTION nods |
| 11:22.58 | ________________ | gj |
| 11:23.04 | Helral|Work | ~dance |
| 11:23.04 | purl | <(*.*<) <(*.*)> \(*.*)/ (>*.*)> |
| 11:23.06 | Helral|Work | ;p |
| 11:23.09 | ________________ | lol |
| 11:23.12 | ________________ | ~work |
| 11:23.12 | purl | it has been said that work is the integral of the dot product of force and displacement |
| 11:23.24 | ________________ | ~physics |
| 11:23.25 | purl | Yarr... th' laws o' physics be a harsh mistress, to be sure. |
| 11:23.30 | ________________ | ~physix |
| 11:23.37 | ________________ | D: |
| 11:23.40 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 11:23.51 | ________________ | ~seven |
| 11:23.52 | Helral|Work | purl what are actor events |
| 11:23.53 | purl | Helral|Work: what are you talking about? |
| 11:23.58 | Helral|Work | hehehe |
| 11:24.02 | ________________ | lol |
| 11:24.03 | Helral|Work | purl what are actorevents |
| 11:24.04 | purl | Helral|Work: what are you talking about? |
| 11:24.07 | Helral|Work | purl what are actors |
| 11:24.08 | purl | Helral|Work: what are you talking about? |
| 11:24.12 | Helral|Work | :( |
| 11:24.13 | ________________ | ~what are actors? |
| 11:24.14 | purl | ________________: what are you talking about? |
| 11:24.18 | ________________ | lol |
| 11:24.28 | ________________ | ~What are you talking about? |
| 11:24.29 | purl | ________________: I think you lost me on that one |
| 11:24.33 | ________________ | lol |
| 11:24.42 | ________________ | ~I think you lost ME on that one. |
| 11:24.42 | purl | You think you lost ME on that one.? |
| 11:24.48 | ________________ | lol? |
| 11:25.04 | Helral|Work | ~8ball Are you trolling ________________? |
| 11:25.05 | purl | I'm sure of it. |
| 11:25.08 | Helral|Work | :) |
| 11:25.10 | ________________ | lolol |
| 11:25.25 | ________________ | ~8ball is purl a liar? |
| 11:25.26 | purl | Please ask again. |
| 11:25.39 | ________________ | booo |
| 11:25.43 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 11:25.47 | ________________ | silence = confession |
| 11:26.07 | Helral|Work | silence = I ain't gonna answer the same question twice in a row ;p |
| 11:26.36 | Helral|Work | ~8ball is ________________ getting annoyed by you? |
| 11:26.36 | purl | No. |
| 11:26.45 | ________________ | ;D |
| 11:26.46 | Helral|Work | ~8ball does this disappoint you? |
| 11:26.46 | purl | Unsure. |
| 11:27.07 | Helral|Work | ~8ball are you saddened by this? |
| 11:27.07 | purl | Please ask again. |
| 11:27.10 | Helral|Work | ~8ball are you saddened by this?? |
| 11:27.10 | purl | Absolutely. |
| 11:27.18 | Helral|Work | ;p |
| 11:27.32 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 11:27.50 | Helral|Work | starts playing with a laser pen from his collection |
| 11:29.49 | Helral|Work | http://xkcd.com/729/ :) |
| 11:29.53 | Helral|Work | is gone |
| 12:02.34 | AlphA_VsT | sigh |
| 12:02.47 | AlphA_VsT | im 50/50 on taking it down :P |
| 12:03.35 | AlphA_VsT | Attack of the paper zombies! is up though |
| 12:04.35 | Helral|Work | meows |
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| 16:36.53 | Ashamed | FUCKING NINJAZ |
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| 16:39.31 | JademusSreg | From the depths, I pew. |
| 16:39.47 | Helral | meows from the shadows behind JademusSreg |
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| 16:41.18 | JademusSreg | uses Laugh Out Loud Cats. It's super effective. |
| 16:41.35 | Helral | enjoys the music |
| 16:41.45 | Helral | ;p |
| 16:42.03 | Helral | teach the lol cats the meowmix song. |
| 16:42.06 | Helral | teaches* |
| 16:42.17 | Ashamed | oooo h shiz |
| 16:42.23 | JademusSreg | uses TM Smooth Jazz. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaEmCFiNqP0 |
| 16:42.42 | Kueken | uses laser pointer |
| 16:42.47 | Kueken | helral is confused... |
| 16:43.38 | Ashamed | kueken you can buy this laser pointer cat toy that does it for you... |
| 16:43.54 | Ashamed | soy ou can just place that baby up and teh kitty is distracted without any efforts from your end |
| 16:44.46 | Kueken | my cat used to hunt down the cursor on my screen |
| 16:45.41 | JademusSreg | Mine do that when they have the audacity to get on my gorgeous desk. |
| 16:45.48 | JademusSreg | The bastards. |
| 16:52.43 | Ashamed | They killed kenny |
| 16:52.45 | Ashamed | You Bastards |
| 17:03.16 | Helral | was playing a game ;p |
| 17:06.08 | JademusSreg | is playing Smooth Jazz Nyan Cat on repeat. |
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| 17:22.21 | bluedevil | hello |
| 17:23.00 | JademusSreg | Hi thar. |
| 17:23.06 | Guest62748 | whatsup? |
| 17:23.23 | JademusSreg | Type /nick BlooDivel |
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| 17:25.13 | Guest62748 | lol bloodivel |
| 17:25.29 | Guest62748 | it doesn't work |
| 17:25.36 | JademusSreg | Better than being a guest. =D |
| 17:26.17 | Guest62748 | won't do anything…when I press enter it dissapears |
| 17:26.33 | JademusSreg | Odd. |
| 17:26.46 | JademusSreg | ./nick DudeBro |
| 17:26.50 | JademusSreg | Without the period. |
| 17:27.03 | JademusSreg | There you go. |
| 17:27.47 | DudeBro | i have a question about the editor though, can you help? |
| 17:27.50 | BroDude | Sure |
| 17:27.54 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 17:27.58 | JademusSreg | This is fun. |
| 17:28.18 | BroDude | hehe |
| 17:28.23 | DudeBro | when you upgrade in my map the upgrades work, but the button doesn't grey out |
| 17:28.33 | JademusSreg | But yes, we here at the Throat of the World will help you learn Editor Shouts. |
| 17:28.48 | JademusSreg | Sounds like it needs a requirement. |
| 17:29.32 | DudeBro | i'm new…and I don't understand anything :P |
| 17:29.58 | JademusSreg | Rather, if you look at standard upgrades, you'll see how they do it; I expect they use a requirement along the lines of Does Not Have BlahBlahUpgrade. |
| 17:30.43 | JademusSreg | So that when the research is completed, the requirement returns false and greys out/removes the button. |
| 17:31.52 | DudeBro | k, thanks :D |
| 17:36.42 | bloodevil | i can't find the requires |
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| 17:57.37 | QueenG | alpha u there? |
| 18:03.41 | Kueken | question |
| 18:03.56 | Kueken | how do you quote a locked post on mapster? |
| 18:04.13 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 18:04.16 | Kueken | a real quote, with the name and link back to the post n stuff |
| 18:04.45 | JademusSreg | I guess you'd need to refer to it by post id. |
| 18:04.58 | Kueken | yeah, how do you get that? ;) |
| 18:05.20 | JademusSreg | I'm not sure. =D |
| 18:05.27 | Kueken | only method I know was clicking the "quote" button |
| 18:05.43 | Kueken | which made the quote-tags with post id ready to use |
| 18:05.51 | JademusSreg | Perhaps the page source has it. |
| 18:05.53 | Kueken | but a locked post has no such button |
| 18:07.46 | Kueken | yep |
| 18:07.50 | Kueken | found it, thx |
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| 18:23.36 | JademusSreg | Topic was killed. |
| 18:24.36 | Ashamed | it was shot dead |
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| 18:34.09 | JademusSreg | Pew pew. |
| 18:36.32 | Ashamed | dell warranty support tries there hardest not to send anyone out |
| 18:37.16 | Ashamed | its like ... my computer has been smoking and is not working.. ( Well has it been smoking every hour for the last week ) ... no it just started.. ( i am going to need you to reinstall the OS ) |
| 18:40.57 | JademusSreg | Unrelated: http://www.thearrogantatheist.com/images/shirts/zombie-zoom.jpg |
| 18:50.31 | bloodevil | look up super mass hero rush, and tell me what I need to fix, modify, add, delete... (on starcraft 2, multiplayer) thanks |
| 18:51.17 | JademusSreg | I'm busy. If you have screenshots or videos, I'll take a look. |
| 18:52.25 | bloodevil | nope, have none, only of the map in the editor from a couple days ago, but it doesn't show much lol |
| 18:53.19 | *** join/#sc2mapster Batomys (cc9b4d16@gateway/web/freenode/ip.204.155.77.22) |
| 18:53.55 | Batomys | I'm having trouble finding the transparent terrain 'window objects, searching for 'hole', 'window', 'glass', etc didn't work. |
| 18:53.59 | Batomys | Anyone know what it is called? |
| 18:54.16 | JademusSreg | I'll check. |
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| 18:54.50 | Batomys | tried 'grid' and 'floor' too :| |
| 18:55.01 | JademusSreg | Which one did you need? The glass floors? |
| 18:55.17 | Batomys | Yeah, anything walkable that is transparent |
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| 18:55.22 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 18:55.33 | JademusSreg | I'm not certain they are walkable. I'll check that too. |
| 18:55.54 | Batomys | It's not a dealbreaker if it isn't walkable, i can work around that if necessary, but would certainly be easier |
| 18:56.11 | JademusSreg | The AvernusGlassFloor for instance isn't walkable. |
| 18:57.15 | JademusSreg | Neither are the ValhallaGlassFloor models. |
| 18:57.38 | Batomys | Those don't show up in the doodads palette, hrrm |
| 18:57.44 | Batomys | But I see the models themselves |
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| 18:58.18 | JademusSreg | Yeah, the doodad palette will require you to add some actor and model data. |
| 18:58.22 | Guest82506 | msg NickServ identify pass |
| 18:59.04 | JademusSreg | You forgot the / |
| 18:59.04 | Guest82506 | yea, i know |
| 18:59.04 | JademusSreg | As in /ns identify somePAssword |
| 18:59.08 | Guest82506 | yea, i know |
| 18:59.26 | Guest82506 | i didn't have a password anyway |
| 18:59.27 | Batomys | Cool, thanks for pointing me in the right direction! |
| 18:59.55 | JademusSreg | No problem. |
| 19:02.17 | Ashamed_ | http://www.history.com/news/2012/03/14/did-a-new-human-species-thrive-in-stone-age-china/ |
| 19:02.21 | Ashamed_ | ooooooooooh shiz |
| 19:05.10 | Batomys | Wait, history channel has content other than "ancient aliens" and "ghost hunters" dreck? |
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| 19:19.50 | AlphA_VsT | rawr |
| 19:19.54 | JademusSreg | Pew pew. |
| 19:20.56 | JademusSreg | Ash, all of the History channel's programming is suspect. |
| 19:21.06 | AlphA_VsT | ? |
| 19:21.13 | JademusSreg | [15:02:30] <Ashamed_> http://www.history.com/news/2012/03/14/did-a-new-human-species-thrive-in-stone-age-china/ |
| 19:21.13 | JademusSreg | [15:02:34] <Ashamed_> ooooooooooh shiz |
| 19:21.13 | JademusSreg | [15:05:23] <Batomys> Wait, history channel has content other than "ancient aliens" and "ghost hunters" dreck? |
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| 19:22.58 | JademusSreg | It's like meeting a person who says complete crazy bullshit all the time; even if that person happens to say something that happens to be factual, you're going to be skeptical. |
| 19:27.44 | Ashamed_ | OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH SHIZ |
| 19:27.49 | AlphA_VsT | attack of the paper zombies is online, it has a few minor issues though :P |
| 19:28.03 | Ashamed_ | ooooo H shiz |
| 19:28.05 | Ashamed_ | paper zombiez |
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| 19:28.31 | Bounty | Hay Guyz |
| 19:28.52 | AlphA_VsT | i need to stress test it with 5 people |
| 19:28.53 | AlphA_VsT | :( |
| 19:28.57 | JademusSreg | Pewz. |
| 19:29.51 | Bounty | stress test? |
| 19:30.02 | Bounty | does your map use lots of triggers? |
| 19:30.33 | AlphA_VsT | no |
| 19:30.36 | Ashamed_ | liek a a kabillion |
| 19:30.38 | AlphA_VsT | well lost of functions |
| 19:30.45 | AlphA_VsT | well lots |
| 19:30.49 | Bounty | same thing |
| 19:30.52 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:31.16 | Bounty | i doubt 5 ppl would stress it out though |
| 19:31.28 | Bounty | even my worst coded maps would run fine with 5 ppl |
| 19:31.39 | Bounty | its when you hit that double digit player count that things get cwazy |
| 19:31.40 | Bounty | >< |
| 19:35.37 | Bounty | I had a dream about the popularity system last night |
| 19:36.15 | JademusSreg | Is this the sort of thing that starts a social movement? |
| 19:36.26 | Bounty | nah |
| 19:36.40 | Bounty | i just dreamt that Blizzard put in the open games list and it was ugly |
| 19:36.51 | Bounty | like the list worked but it looked like shit |
| 19:36.54 | Bounty | design wise |
| 19:37.08 | Bounty | funny thing is i am not making this up, this dream happend |
| 19:37.17 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 19:37.17 | Bounty | WHAT DOES IT MEAN? |
| 19:38.17 | JademusSreg | Brain cancer. |
| 19:38.38 | Bounty | well that stinks |
| 19:39.00 | AlphA_VsT | i need to patch the zombies so the get stronger over time... |
| 19:39.18 | AlphA_VsT | and it will reduce lag because it will take longer to make them :P and fewer :P |
| 19:39.26 | Bounty | well thats easy |
| 19:39.37 | Bounty | action definition threaded loop >< |
| 19:39.54 | AlphA_VsT | i left my game run for 20 min came back and it was at 0 fps |
| 19:39.56 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 19:40.01 | AlphA_VsT | eak |
| 19:40.02 | Bounty | whoa |
| 19:40.07 | Bounty | thats not good |
| 19:40.20 | Bounty | that means something is stacking lol |
| 19:40.26 | Bounty | Way to much |
| 19:40.35 | AlphA_VsT | its just the units... |
| 19:40.47 | Bounty | well there u go |
| 19:40.51 | Bounty | stacking units |
| 19:40.53 | AlphA_VsT | getting all the otders when they are created and such |
| 19:40.55 | Bounty | set a cap |
| 19:41.06 | Bounty | do no create if there are X amount |
| 19:41.14 | AlphA_VsT | I am and i will reduce the cap as the game goes on :P |
| 19:41.23 | AlphA_VsT | already a cap but it might be to high lol |
| 19:41.27 | Bounty | reduce the cap? |
| 19:41.33 | Bounty | why reduce it |
| 19:41.41 | AlphA_VsT | more spawns over time |
| 19:41.43 | Bounty | make them stronger but increase the cap aswell lol |
| 19:41.50 | Bounty | make it hardcore >< |
| 19:42.01 | AlphA_VsT | that will just make more lag |
| 19:42.17 | Bounty | not if you dont go crazy with it |
| 19:42.26 | Bounty | dont make the cap like 600 zombies |
| 19:42.27 | AlphA_VsT | its already lagging... |
| 19:42.33 | AlphA_VsT | and its not :P |
| 19:42.37 | Bounty | after how many zombies |
| 19:42.40 | Bounty | does it start to lag |
| 19:42.44 | AlphA_VsT | no idea |
| 19:42.49 | AlphA_VsT | go play it and see |
| 19:42.51 | AlphA_VsT | :P |
| 19:42.58 | Bounty | its uploaded? |
| 19:43.04 | AlphA_VsT | yeah |
| 19:43.27 | Bounty | name? |
| 19:43.27 | AlphA_VsT | attack of the paper zombies... |
| 19:43.34 | AlphA_VsT | it already has 40 min played 0.o |
| 19:43.51 | Bounty | 37 |
| 19:43.55 | Bounty | lol |
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| 19:44.28 | AlphA_VsT | awww |
| 19:44.39 | Bounty | ? |
| 19:44.42 | AlphA_VsT | your no fun :P |
| 19:44.48 | Bounty | what did i do? |
| 19:44.57 | AlphA_VsT | left the game |
| 19:45.02 | Bounty | that was u? |
| 19:45.19 | AlphA_VsT | yeah |
| 19:45.38 | Bounty | well i didnt know that |
| 19:46.15 | AlphA_VsT | hahaha :p |
| 19:47.01 | AlphA_VsT | i need to fix the lobby and fix the team color issue for points :P |
| 19:47.08 | AlphA_VsT | they shouldnt be red lol |
| 19:47.14 | AlphA_VsT | new ones at least |
| 19:47.42 | Bounty | well ill tell u this |
| 19:47.45 | Bounty | i just lost |
| 19:47.52 | Bounty | and i have no idea what the hell i i was supposed to do |
| 19:47.56 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:48.03 | Bounty | none of my guys died |
| 19:48.40 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 19:48.51 | AlphA_VsT | did you lose all your points? |
| 19:48.55 | Bounty | idk |
| 19:49.11 | AlphA_VsT | probably :D |
| 19:49.17 | Bounty | but im assuming u plan to have some help tips or something? lol |
| 19:49.23 | AlphA_VsT | YES! |
| 19:49.51 | AlphA_VsT | now play it again :P |
| 19:50.05 | AlphA_VsT | and dont lose.. :P |
| 19:50.15 | Bounty | well i mean i can see why it lags |
| 19:50.19 | Bounty | it didnt lag at all for me but |
| 19:50.21 | Bounty | i can see why |
| 19:50.32 | AlphA_VsT | nah it doesnt lag at first |
| 19:50.35 | Bounty | all the players spawn at the bottom and zombies keep spawning from the top |
| 19:50.53 | Bounty | idk |
| 19:50.56 | Bounty | just a theory |
| 19:51.04 | AlphA_VsT | its actually randomized :P |
| 19:51.20 | Bounty | you sure? they all kept spawning from the top right |
| 19:51.38 | AlphA_VsT | well they always spawn :P |
| 19:51.43 | AlphA_VsT | but the locations change |
| 19:52.10 | AlphA_VsT | each point is capped at 33 units |
| 19:52.10 | Bounty | also lol |
| 19:52.18 | Bounty | now Battlefield Egypt II is at 30 hours played |
| 19:52.20 | Bounty | who the fuck is playing |
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| 19:52.34 | PM|away | Oh, sorry about that |
| 19:52.40 | PM|away | I'm afkin' in it day and night |
| 19:52.55 | Bounty | really? |
| 19:52.56 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v ProzaicMuze] by ChanServ |
| 19:53.00 | ProzaicMuze | Yep |
| 19:53.01 | ProzaicMuze | Just for you |
| 19:53.05 | ProzaicMuze | You're that special |
| 19:53.06 | Bounty | hmm |
| 19:53.09 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 19:53.11 | Bounty | something tells me |
| 19:53.17 | Bounty | You're not being honest with me |
| 19:53.36 | Bounty | but i mean |
| 19:53.38 | Bounty | technically |
| 19:53.46 | Bounty | You're story makes more sense than people actually playing |
| 19:53.47 | Bounty | so |
| 19:54.16 | ProzaicMuze | Let me refer you to purl |
| 19:54.39 | ProzaicMuze | -ProzaicMuze |
| 19:54.41 | Bounty | ~prozaicmuze |
| 19:54.41 | purl | i guess prozaicmuze is a being of pure light descended from a higher plane to grace the wicked creature that is man with his blessings of knowledge. |
| 19:54.41 | ProzaicMuze | crap |
| 19:54.43 | ProzaicMuze | there we go |
| 19:54.56 | AlphA_VsT | I also need to slow down the progress of the game :D |
| 19:55.00 | ProzaicMuze | hrm |
| 19:55.05 | ProzaicMuze | I can't even type the tilde key for some reason |
| 19:55.07 | ProzaicMuze | HAX |
| 19:55.26 | Bounty | no but seriously, are you doing that? because if you're not i want to hunt these players down so i to can play |
| 19:55.29 | Bounty | but if its just you |
| 19:55.32 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:56.24 | AlphA_VsT | I need to make those minor patch cahgnes :P |
| 19:56.32 | ProzaicMuze | It's just me |
| 19:56.39 | ProzaicMuze | I'm playing it so that I can steal your ideas for my new map |
| 19:56.41 | AlphA_VsT | and figgure out how to slow down the games pace |
| 19:56.45 | ProzaicMuze | Egyptian Battlefields 3 |
| 19:56.49 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:56.49 | Dustin | So i have a dilema |
| 19:57.23 | AlphA_VsT | ? |
| 19:58.01 | Dustin | Should I keep my defense combat system normal sc2, or should i make it more skill based |
| 19:58.46 | Bounty | skill based |
| 19:58.56 | Dustin | thats what im thinking |
| 19:58.58 | ProzaicMuze | luck based |
| 19:59.04 | Dustin | well |
| 19:59.08 | ProzaicMuze | Literally, roll a dice on the screen for them |
| 19:59.08 | Dustin | its already kindal uck based |
| 19:59.11 | ProzaicMuze | It'll add tension |
| 19:59.16 | Dustin | I made my own AI for the base defense |
| 19:59.27 | Dustin | Ohhh |
| 19:59.30 | Dustin | I like that |
| 19:59.33 | Dustin | For boss fights |
| 19:59.43 | Dustin | I have a big dice roll out on the screen |
| 19:59.55 | Bounty | thats a horrible idea |
| 19:59.56 | Dustin | and the boss gets whatever buff is associated with the number |
| 20:00.05 | Bounty | oh |
| 20:00.07 | Bounty | nvm |
| 20:00.09 | Bounty | thats a good idea |
| 20:00.21 | ProzaicMuze | You would doubt my awesome ideas. . . |
| 20:00.32 | Bounty | well your original idea was shit |
| 20:00.35 | Bounty | but he turned it into gold |
| 20:00.41 | Bounty | >< |
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| 20:00.56 | ProzaicMuze | You're assumption is what made it bad |
| 20:01.06 | ProzaicMuze | I merely provided a mechanic |
| 20:01.13 | ProzaicMuze | I didn't say WHERE he should use it ;P |
| 20:01.21 | ProzaicMuze | Your doubt has been thwarted good sir! |
| 20:01.30 | Bounty | But |
| 20:01.35 | ProzaicMuze | No |
| 20:01.37 | Bounty | fuck it |
| 20:01.49 | ProzaicMuze | Eww |
| 20:01.50 | Bounty | i wanna go one day without arguing with someone |
| 20:01.52 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:01.58 | ProzaicMuze | That'll never happen |
| 20:02.04 | Bounty | i can do it |
| 20:02.07 | ProzaicMuze | No you can't |
| 20:02.16 | Bounty | nice try |
| 20:02.19 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:02.23 | ProzaicMuze | *puppy dog eyes* |
| 20:02.26 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 20:02.37 | Bounty | I see through your lies |
| 20:02.41 | Dustin | Bounty want to help me test this prototype I made for wasd mouse shit on bnet? I might just use it in my defense map |
| 20:02.51 | Bounty | sure |
| 20:03.40 | Dustin | kk publishing now |
| 20:03.46 | Bounty | kk |
| 20:05.23 | Scorp_ | Do anyone have a second to give me feedback on this UI? http://i41.tinypic.com/29uwrnp.jpg |
| 20:05.53 | Scorp_ | it |
| 20:06.00 | Scorp_ | s a work in progress |
| 20:06.27 | ProzaicMuze | Looks sorta like a wireframe, but with more detail |
| 20:06.28 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 20:06.38 | ProzaicMuze | Not sure if it's effective without knowing more about your map |
| 20:06.45 | batomys | real minimalist UI |
| 20:06.52 | AlphA_VsT | lol yeah |
| 20:06.55 | Scorp_ | its for a Tug of War map |
| 20:06.58 | JademusSreg | It's definitely a WIP, such that it's difficult to say anything useful. |
| 20:07.17 | JademusSreg | Like commenting on the first few strokes of a painting. |
| 20:07.21 | ProzaicMuze | A useful element in a Tug map would be a balance meter |
| 20:07.30 | Bounty | I think you should add a rolling dice thingie in the center |
| 20:07.36 | Ashamed_ | the prozaic |
| 20:07.44 | ProzaicMuze | To quickly show which side is pushing |
| 20:07.51 | ProzaicMuze | Oh, and yes |
| 20:07.53 | ProzaicMuze | add a dice roll |
| 20:08.02 | ProzaicMuze | It will add tension |
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| 20:08.04 | Scorp_ | dice? for what purpose? |
| 20:08.08 | ProzaicMuze | TENSION |
| 20:08.08 | batomys | gambling |
| 20:08.15 | ProzaicMuze | TEN SHUN |
| 20:08.16 | QueenG | bloodevil u still here? |
| 20:08.20 | ProzaicMuze | The root of all gaming |
| 20:08.25 | ProzaicMuze | If there is no tension, there is no motivation! |
| 20:08.36 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4Vv0sEO1sc |
| 20:08.40 | Bounty | You want a bar like that |
| 20:08.42 | Bounty | for tug |
| 20:08.45 | ProzaicMuze | And it can only be one die, or you might as well be playing yahtzee |
| 20:09.06 | ProzaicMuze | Not quite that big, but yes |
| 20:09.12 | ProzaicMuze | something like that at the top is ideal |
| 20:09.13 | Scorp_ | nice idea, I'll definately add that |
| 20:09.48 | Bounty | Hence forth |
| 20:09.56 | Bounty | Everyone map must have some form of dice rolling |
| 20:10.10 | ProzaicMuze | Agreed |
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| 20:11.23 | AlphA_VsT | YAY! |
| 20:11.36 | QueenG | alpha ur back yay |
| 20:11.48 | Bounty | cmon Dustin what the fuck |
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| 20:21.18 | Vailreth | flubber |
| 20:21.34 | AlphA_VsT | ive already taken a few stepps to deduce lag even more :P |
| 20:23.18 | AlphA_VsT | im also adding a Que system to new poitns to slow down the game a bit |
| 20:23.23 | Vailreth | deduce lag... sherlock homles on the internet.. |
| 20:23.27 | AlphA_VsT | for adding new points |
| 20:23.38 | AlphA_VsT | reduce :D |
| 20:24.20 | Vailreth | what kind of smiley is that my eyes are bad and i cant tell |
| 20:25.19 | Jum-Jum | lol ProzaicMuze |
| 20:25.27 | Jum-Jum | I like how the top right one is so much smaller |
| 20:25.32 | Jum-Jum | in comparison to the one under |
| 20:25.35 | Jum-Jum | bad photoshopping bad! |
| 20:27.00 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 20:30.40 | Ashamed_ | when the fuck gw2 going to start inviting to beta? |
| 20:31.25 | AlphA_VsT | it has been |
| 20:31.31 | AlphA_VsT | they dont like you |
| 20:31.45 | Ashamed_ | no it hasn't |
| 20:39.29 | AlphA_VsT | lol the did the beta like 3 times since I have known :p |
| 20:40.27 | AlphA_VsT | recently like |
| 20:42.21 | AlphA_VsT | sweet |
| 20:51.38 | AlphA_VsT | yes yes and yes |
| 20:51.48 | AlphA_VsT | mayjor improvement to the game |
| 20:54.12 | ProzaicMuze | psh |
| 20:54.16 | ProzaicMuze | My photoshopping skills are amazing |
| 20:54.59 | ProzaicMuze | One sec, I'll pull up the E-mail and tell you |
| 20:55.33 | ProzaicMuze | "We know you're very eager for us to send out beta invitations, and we will be sending these confirmations out shortly." |
| 20:55.37 | ProzaicMuze | That suggests within a week |
| 20:55.50 | ProzaicMuze | so I would assume this comming Fri/Sat |
| 20:55.53 | ProzaicMuze | or next Monday |
| 20:57.10 | AlphA_VsT | your not a 100% chance to get into the beta 0.o |
| 20:57.26 | Bounty | sweet |
| 20:57.35 | Bounty | Battlefield Egypt II was finally getting played |
| 20:57.38 | Bounty | now it has an afk host |
| 20:57.41 | Bounty | for the last 3 hour |
| 20:57.43 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:58.55 | AlphA_VsT | lol :( |
| 20:59.01 | AlphA_VsT | HUGS! |
| 20:59.10 | AlphA_VsT | I hate people who do that |
| 20:59.32 | Bounty | Yep and Blizzard has done nothing to prevent it |
| 20:59.36 | AlphA_VsT | im almost ready to patch my map |
| 20:59.37 | Bounty | no vote to kick |
| 20:59.55 | AlphA_VsT | i know right |
| 21:00.14 | AlphA_VsT | you could kick players in bnet classic :P |
| 21:00.23 | Bounty | yep |
| 21:00.29 | AlphA_VsT | forgot about that |
| 21:00.37 | AlphA_VsT | something that should just be there |
| 21:01.06 | AlphA_VsT | on faster game speed how long is 1 second? |
| 21:01.15 | AlphA_VsT | for game time |
| 21:01.55 | Bounty | why do you need to know |
| 21:02.04 | Bounty | trigger? |
| 21:02.14 | AlphA_VsT | yeah just curious :P |
| 21:02.24 | Bounty | well i dont know but just use real time |
| 21:02.35 | Bounty | 1 second = 1 second lol |
| 21:03.05 | AlphA_VsT | lol well to account for lag 0.o |
| 21:03.26 | Bounty | yeah just use real time |
| 21:03.51 | Bounty | its just two differant clocks in the map |
| 21:03.55 | Bounty | but they're both running |
| 21:03.56 | Ahli | fastest game speed is 150% of normal |
| 21:03.58 | Bounty | so it doesnt matter |
| 21:04.33 | AlphA_VsT | Faster 65 s 72.5% 1.38 |
| 21:04.40 | AlphA_VsT | hmmm i will use that and hope its right :p |
| 21:04.44 | AlphA_VsT | http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Game_Speed |
| 21:04.45 | Bounty | .... |
| 21:04.46 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 21:04.53 | Bounty | why overcomplicate it though |
| 21:05.14 | Ahli | oh, then it's slower than I thought ^^ |
| 21:05.33 | AlphA_VsT | im not.. |
| 21:05.41 | AlphA_VsT | but you think everything is overly complicated :D |
| 21:06.00 | Bounty | well it works |
| 21:06.14 | Bounty | i always look for the most simple way lol |
| 21:06.26 | Bounty | and if it cant be done then you go the complicated route |
| 21:06.38 | Bounty | like the whole black and white arguement we had last night |
| 21:06.59 | Bounty | if i had known you wanted to still have color (the blood etc) i would have just submitted right off the bat >< |
| 21:07.19 | AlphA_VsT | :D but you knew that 0.o |
| 21:07.25 | Bounty | i honestly didnt |
| 21:07.34 | Bounty | i really thought you were going 100% black and white |
| 21:07.45 | AlphA_VsT | im sure i said something about still having color right off the bat :P |
| 21:07.52 | Bounty | and i still argue you can get it to look exactly the same with lighting |
| 21:07.56 | AlphA_VsT | and you have seen screenshots :P or should have :P |
| 21:08.00 | Bounty | but u cant get that cool blood effect |
| 21:08.42 | Ashamed_ | I AM A DOOER |
| 21:08.44 | Ashamed_ | I JUST DO STUFF |
| 21:09.24 | Bounty | I am the greatest mapper of all time |
| 21:09.38 | Bounty | If you base it to include maps not completed |
| 21:10.01 | Bounty | Now if you'll excuse me, we're heading out to Barnes n Nobles |
| 21:10.04 | Bounty | peeeth out |
| 21:10.44 | Ashamed_ | barnes n nobles is for fags |
| 21:12.41 | batomys | What about Borders? |
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| 21:17.21 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 21:17.33 | AlphA_VsT | im reducing the lag chance even more yay |
| 21:17.39 | Ashamed_ | WOOOT! |
| 21:17.42 | Ashamed_ | Reduce that lag! |
| 21:17.45 | AlphA_VsT | I AM! |
| 21:17.52 | Ashamed_ | FU LAG! |
| 21:19.28 | AlphA_VsT | FU INDEED! |
| 21:20.03 | JademusSreg | Kapow. |
| 21:20.21 | Ashamed_ | FM INDEED? |
| 21:26.05 | batomys | Later gents, I'll be back around 4 PDT, will need 1 more for multiplayer test. |
| 21:26.09 | batomys | UNTIL THEN |
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| 21:32.53 | AlphA_VsT | whew |
| 21:33.12 | AlphA_VsT | took out a few minor issues :P |
| 21:33.36 | AlphA_VsT | question.... |
| 21:34.15 | AlphA_VsT | will this trigger if a player quits or force quits teh game? Player - Player Any Player leaves the game with Any |
| 21:34.40 | AlphA_VsT | presets only show as deafeat/victory tie |
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| 21:49.17 | JademusSreg | The results should be undetermined. |
| 21:51.11 | JademusSreg | I approach victory/defeat by designating some value, like a player-indexed bool array or a player property, as a victory state, defaulting to false. Then whenever the trigger fires, I check the state and set the GameOver accordingly. |
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| 21:52.34 | AlphA_VsT | so you cant just have a simple event to check if a player leaves the game :p |
| 21:53.36 | JademusSreg | What do you mean? |
| 21:54.21 | AlphA_VsT | player leaves the game do action :P |
| 21:54.46 | Ashamed_ | i thought blizzard had created a trigger for that kinda of shit a few months ago |
| 21:54.51 | JademusSreg | The Any preset in GUI is c_gameResultUndecided in galaxy/ |
| 21:54.57 | Ashamed_ | like a trigger to run right before soemone leaves |
| 21:55.12 | QueenG | brb |
| 21:55.24 | JademusSreg | Ash is correct; it's useful for intercepting players as they leave to save banks and whatnot. |
| 21:56.19 | AlphA_VsT | so player leaves game any will work if they are not in the game any more? |
| 21:59.11 | JademusSreg | You're not making sense. Please rephrase the question. |
| 22:00.45 | AlphA_VsT | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:05.05 | JademusSreg | Because that expression doesn't make sense. |
| 22:06.01 | AlphA_VsT | forget it :P |
| 22:06.07 | JademusSreg | native int PlayerStatus (int inPlayer); |
| 22:06.22 | JademusSreg | It returns the following. |
| 22:06.24 | JademusSreg | const int c_playerStatusUnused = 0; // No player in this slot |
| 22:06.25 | JademusSreg | const int c_playerStatusActive = 1; // Player is actively playing |
| 22:06.25 | JademusSreg | const int c_playerStatusLeft = 2; // Player has left the game |
| 22:09.29 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 22:09.41 | Currydevil | oy this edgechecker... still beating me. |
| 22:10.26 | AlphA_VsT | HUGS! |
| 22:10.58 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 22:14.49 | AlphA_VsT | Anyways version .2 is up :p |
| 22:18.26 | AlphA_VsT | it runs so much smoother on bnet now :p |
| 22:21.16 | AlphA_VsT | no drop in performance at 16 min :P |
| 22:21.30 | AlphA_VsT | i was doign things sloppy before :P |
| 22:24.17 | AlphA_VsT | my graphic didn't show :( |
| 22:24.29 | AlphA_VsT | hmmm |
| 22:24.43 | AlphA_VsT | shouldnt have been blue :P |
| 22:27.51 | AlphA_VsT | now I need to make them harder after they max out :P |
| 22:29.51 | Currydevil | alright, testing first row of edgechecker |
| 22:29.52 | Currydevil | wooo |
| 22:32.07 | AlphA_VsT | wtf |
| 22:33.16 | AlphA_VsT | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-03-14%20at%203.32.20%20PM.png |
| 22:33.17 | AlphA_VsT | 0.o |
| 22:33.19 | AlphA_VsT | wtf |
| 22:34.19 | AlphA_VsT | DOUBLE WTF! |
| 22:34.49 | AlphA_VsT | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-03-14%20at%203.34.29%20PM.png |
| 22:35.08 | AlphA_VsT | not found? |
| 22:35.59 | AlphA_VsT | ok nm |
| 22:36.22 | AlphA_VsT | display bug :D |
| 22:36.28 | AlphA_VsT | but still |
| 22:36.30 | AlphA_VsT | not cool |
| 22:38.38 | Currydevil | Oo I think it's working |
| 22:38.40 | Currydevil | yay |
| 22:38.55 | AlphA_VsT | yeah? |
| 22:38.58 | AlphA_VsT | good jbo |
| 22:39.27 | Currydevil | aye, after just sitting here for 2 hours deciding how to write it |
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| 22:47.16 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
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| 22:50.13 | Batomys | Afternoon folks |
| 22:50.28 | JademusSreg | And good pew to you. |
| 22:50.39 | Batomys | Getting ready to test my map in 10 minutes, need 1 additional tester |
| 22:50.43 | Batomys | Will take approx 30 mins to complete |
| 22:51.08 | AlphA_VsT | me also :P |
| 22:51.18 | AlphA_VsT | I will test if you test mine :P |
| 22:52.17 | Batomys | What is the length? |
| 22:52.40 | AlphA_VsT | probably really fast :P no more than 20 min :P |
| 22:52.50 | AlphA_VsT | really fucking hard :P |
| 22:57.59 | QueenG | alpha ur taking a long time |
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| 23:01.20 | AlphA_VsT | your laoding screen is broken:D |
| 23:01.27 | Batomys | how? |
| 23:01.33 | AlphA_VsT | its blue |
| 23:01.37 | AlphA_VsT | missing file |
| 23:01.53 | Dustin | Bounty |
| 23:01.58 | Dustin | Sorry about that, GF showed up |
| 23:02.00 | AlphA_VsT | needs to be in the map file not mod |
| 23:02.15 | AlphA_VsT | from my experience |
| 23:03.32 | Dustin | Anyone else wanna hlep me test this prototype map I made to see if the controls are viable? |
| 23:03.57 | JademusSreg | I could spare a few minutes for you, Dustin. |
| 23:04.32 | Dustin | Sweeet, thanks :) |
| 23:04.43 | JademusSreg | Is it uploaded? |
| 23:05.02 | Dustin | Yup, in lobby now |
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| 23:26.38 | Currydevil | alright, testing full on edgechecker |
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| 23:28.11 | jaxter184 | are there always this many people on the IRC? |
| 23:28.20 | JademusSreg | *few |
| 23:28.22 | JademusSreg | Fixed. |
| 23:28.28 | Currydevil | well, still possible to create dead space, but hopefully less likely with it checking edges |
| 23:28.31 | JademusSreg | And yeah, pretty much. |
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| 23:32.31 | jaxter184 | ...it appears these other people are AFK... |
| 23:33.27 | Dustin | You assume things |
| 23:33.37 | Currydevil | ^ |
| 23:33.54 | jaxter184 | I do; I actually o that a lot |
| 23:33.58 | jaxter184 | *do |
| 23:34.55 | jaxter184 | oh, hey, i was just about to post something, but if one of you guys could answer it for me, i wouldnt have to. |
| 23:35.17 | jaxter184 | sooooo... can you put titles on heroes like there wer in WC3 |
| 23:35.33 | Dustin | titles? |
| 23:35.42 | Dustin | Like Argus ( Archmage ) |
| 23:37.06 | flyingspatula | hey uh |
| 23:37.19 | Batomys | Thanks Alpha, Queen and Prozaic for the feedback! |
| 23:37.23 | flyingspatula | would girls like minecraft? trying to find a multiplayer game for my gf and i |
| 23:37.39 | JademusSreg | That's an odd question, fly. |
| 23:37.43 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 23:37.45 | flyingspatula | well |
| 23:37.49 | flyingspatula | ive never even played minecraft |
| 23:37.53 | flyingspatula | but she tho tit looked neat |
| 23:37.56 | ProzaicMuze | Yes, women do like Minecraft |
| 23:37.57 | flyingspatula | but i dunno how it actually plays |
| 23:38.05 | ProzaicMuze | and Terraria |
| 23:38.06 | flyingspatula | she liked little big planet |
| 23:38.21 | ProzaicMuze | Minecraft is very much legos with light action elements and lots of simming |
| 23:38.21 | JademusSreg | Naw, I mean the implicit assumption that gender has anything to do with what games a person will like. |
| 23:38.33 | flyingspatula | lol i know what your saying jade |
| 23:38.43 | ProzaicMuze | Actually, gender heavily affects what we like to play |
| 23:38.50 | jaxter184 | @dustin i think so, yea |
| 23:38.58 | JademusSreg | Naw, that's culture. |
| 23:39.02 | ProzaicMuze | the physical makeup of male/female brains give them a predisposition to gravitate towards a certain kind of game |
| 23:39.03 | ProzaicMuze | Not at all |
| 23:39.04 | flyingspatula | so minecraft isnt too confusing or anything |
| 23:39.10 | ProzaicMuze | literally, male and female brains work differently |
| 23:39.15 | JademusSreg | Jax, take a look at the actor data, UI: Unit Kill Ranks. |
| 23:39.17 | jaxter184 | no, minecraft isnt too confusing |
| 23:39.23 | flyingspatula | ok thx |
| 23:39.27 | jaxter184 | unless you are younger than 13 |
| 23:39.30 | flyingspatula | is it still free? guess i could look that up |
| 23:39.32 | Batomys | How come women don't like playing Cooking Mama then? |
| 23:39.42 | ProzaicMuze | I've never heard of that game |
| 23:39.47 | ProzaicMuze | And that's a cultural thing |
| 23:39.48 | Dustin | never been free |
| 23:39.48 | jaxter184 | no, minecraft is not free for multiplayer |
| 23:39.54 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 23:39.55 | flyingspatula | ok |
| 23:39.55 | JademusSreg | "Work differently" isn't exactly a technical description. =D |
| 23:39.57 | Dustin | Its like $20 bucks now or something |
| 23:40.00 | flyingspatula | ugh |
| 23:40.03 | flyingspatula | alright |
| 23:40.06 | ProzaicMuze | Female brains are more creatively wired |
| 23:40.12 | ProzaicMuze | Male brains are more technically wired |
| 23:40.27 | JademusSreg | How does one arrive at these conclusions? |
| 23:40.41 | ProzaicMuze | it is why, on average, women have a greater propensity for math than women, and women have a greater affinity for art |
| 23:40.48 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 23:40.57 | jaxter184 | Cooking Mama is a cooking simulation. because women already cook (typically), they would rather create a real product. men don't wanna be caught dead cooking, so they play cooking mama with the excuse that its a fun game. |
| 23:41.07 | JademusSreg | "women have a greater propensity for math than women" |
| 23:41.08 | jaxter184 | and MC is 60$ |
| 23:41.23 | ProzaicMuze | men* |
| 23:41.24 | jaxter184 | looking up propensity....... |
| 23:41.26 | ProzaicMuze | you know what I mean lol |
| 23:41.39 | ProzaicMuze | favortism |
| 23:41.40 | jaxter184 | An inclination or natural tendency to behave in a particular way. |
| 23:41.40 | ProzaicMuze | liking |
| 23:41.45 | Batomys | Propensity is that medicine that regrows your hair, right? |
| 23:41.46 | JademusSreg | Which instance of "women" are you fixing, Prozaic? =D |
| 23:41.50 | flyingspatula | mc is 60 bux? no way |
| 23:41.51 | ProzaicMuze | the first |
| 23:41.51 | jaxter184 | lol |
| 23:41.57 | ProzaicMuze | men = math, women = art in that sentence |
| 23:42.04 | jaxter184 | MC beta was 20$ |
| 23:42.16 | AlphA_VsT | minecraft is 60 bucks? |
| 23:42.21 | JademusSreg | Also, you'll need to cite sources that account for cultural bias. |
| 23:42.22 | jaxter184 | i know a ton of girls who are better than a ton of boys @ math |
| 23:42.28 | ProzaicMuze | It is also shown that men tend to have better spatial skills than women |
| 23:42.44 | JademusSreg | Shown by which studies? =D |
| 23:42.44 | jaxter184 | i think he's saying that men are better drivers |
| 23:42.49 | flyingspatula | eh i dunno if id want to buy 2 copies of MC then. might get bored fast |
| 23:42.52 | ProzaicMuze | Many, many studies |
| 23:42.57 | ProzaicMuze | I'll start finding sources if you like |
| 23:42.58 | JademusSreg | I need a list. |
| 23:43.05 | AlphA_VsT | yeah no |
| 23:43.07 | AlphA_VsT | its 20 |
| 23:43.10 | ProzaicMuze | but it is extensively shown that male and female brains are wired and function differently |
| 23:43.22 | JademusSreg | But in what ways? |
| 23:43.34 | flyingspatula | like having nio common sense lol jk |
| 23:43.35 | Batomys | I think girls are less likely to play videogames as adults because they are less likely to have videogames purchased for them as children by their parents. |
| 23:43.57 | AlphA_VsT | not true |
| 23:44.04 | JademusSreg | Or rather, what are the neurological mechanisms involved, and can we be certain it is not cultural bias? |
| 23:44.14 | jaxter184 | depends on the parent |
| 23:44.20 | Batomys | Less likely. |
| 23:44.24 | AlphA_VsT | no |
| 23:44.29 | AlphA_VsT | you can't say that |
| 23:44.29 | flyingspatula | pick 10 random women and 10 random men and ask them to paralell park. guarantee 9/10 women smash into something, while 9/10 men do it just fine without issue. |
| 23:44.42 | Currydevil | Both my girls have and will have video games =O |
| 23:45.08 | AlphA_VsT | you cant say that flyingspatula either |
| 23:45.13 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 23:45.21 | jaxter184 | you know, Jademus, when I read, I read in Ben Crosshaw's voice. |
| 23:45.23 | Currydevil | i'd be the 10th man to park for you obv |
| 23:45.23 | flyingspatula | i know i was kidding but its sort of true |
| 23:45.33 | AlphA_VsT | i can pick 10 profession female drivers and 10 males who cant drive |
| 23:45.44 | flyingspatula | *random* |
| 23:45.45 | flyingspatula | ;p |
| 23:45.46 | JademusSreg | Yahtzee. |
| 23:46.04 | jaxter184 | i can pick 20 proffessional male drivers and 20 females who cannot drive |
| 23:46.08 | Batomys | I think you have to say it with an exclamation point or it doesn't count |
| 23:46.10 | Batomys | YAHTZEE! |
| 23:46.16 | ProzaicMuze | So let's start with this: http://www.webmd.com/brain/news/20060719/men-women-use-brain-differently |
| 23:46.26 | flyingspatula | oh jeez |
| 23:46.28 | flyingspatula | lets not debate |
| 23:46.39 | ProzaicMuze | This article discusses how men and women achieve the same tasks with different brain usage |
| 23:46.40 | flyingspatula | someone always debates a topic with jade every day |
| 23:46.41 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 23:47.02 | JademusSreg | Debate is enjoyable, but we're not being scored by a panel of judges, so it's not exactly a debate. =D |
| 23:47.10 | ProzaicMuze | language tasks vs visual-spatial tasks being the compared activities in that |
| 23:47.13 | flyingspatula | i knew you were going to try to correct me |
| 23:47.17 | *** join/#sc2mapster Bounty (442ccc3b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.44.204.59) |
| 23:47.21 | Bounty | Hay Guyz |
| 23:47.36 | ProzaicMuze | Given the bilateral use of the brain, it directly affects how you perceive the task you are doing |
| 23:47.46 | Bounty | ...da fuck |
| 23:48.04 | JademusSreg | "What we found most compelling was that male and female participants performed equally on tasks, both in terms of accuracy and timing; they just used different parts of their brains to get the tasks done," This directly undercuts your previous assertions concerning gender-oriented aptitude. |
| 23:48.14 | ProzaicMuze | No it doesn't |
| 23:48.20 | ProzaicMuze | It actually directly supports what I was saying |
| 23:48.22 | ProzaicMuze | In that it affects what you LIKE |
| 23:48.24 | Bounty | What the hell did i just walk in on |
| 23:48.25 | ProzaicMuze | not whether or not we can do it |
| 23:48.26 | jaxter184 | lol |
| 23:48.40 | ProzaicMuze | The point I am illustrating is that men tend to enjoy math more than women |
| 23:48.44 | JademusSreg | So while the work may support your initial assertion that they function differently, it undermines the secondary assertion regarding aptitude. |
| 23:48.46 | ProzaicMuze | and women tend to enjoy art/language more than men |
| 23:48.51 | Bounty | Why dont you two love nerds just fuck and get it over with. |
| 23:48.56 | Batomys | would be nice if there was a single woman to contribute to the discussion |
| 23:49.03 | flyingspatula | damn i must be a woman |
| 23:49.10 | Batomys | you must? |
| 23:49.12 | ProzaicMuze | neither are particularly superior in the task itself, but they go about doing said tasks with different mental functions |
| 23:49.16 | Batomys | If you insist, I suppose |
| 23:49.19 | flyingspatula | i hate math and i love art |
| 23:49.23 | jaxter184 | I think men and women enjoy math equally. It is probably just the culture speaking in that case |
| 23:49.28 | Bounty | Can someoen tell me what they're talking about |
| 23:49.31 | Dustin | I love math AND art |
| 23:49.35 | flyingspatula | i hatye math |
| 23:49.38 | flyingspatula | im horrible at it |
| 23:49.38 | ProzaicMuze | Given how certain parts of the brain fire in response to our enjoyment of tasks, if during the completion of a task that part is NOT firing, you are less likely to enjoy that task |
| 23:49.50 | jaxter184 | uh oh |
| 23:50.04 | ProzaicMuze | This is how men and women are predisposed to enjoy differnt things because their brains fire off differently when completeing the same task unless they are changed over time through repetition of a task |
| 23:50.07 | ProzaicMuze | Music being one such example. |
| 23:50.10 | flyingspatula | i dont retain information i learn from math classes in college or highschool |
| 23:50.18 | JademusSreg | It's also a fairly small sample of just 30 people total, using the somewhat dubious fMRI. |
| 23:50.22 | jaxter184 | i retain all math and musi |
| 23:50.30 | jaxter184 | c |
| 23:50.37 | ProzaicMuze | whether or not you are "good" at a task isn't the point here |
| 23:50.48 | ProzaicMuze | Because that has many factors beyond whether you're male/female |
| 23:51.09 | Bounty | Oh god yes, Prozaic and Jademus debating *fap fap fap* |
| 23:51.17 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 23:51.23 | Bounty | This will never end |
| 23:51.31 | jaxter184 | ... |
| 23:51.45 | jaxter184 | i think i like this irc chat |
| 23:51.56 | ProzaicMuze | eww, this article is about relationships |
| 23:52.01 | JademusSreg | "it is why, on average, women have a greater propensity for math than women, and women have a greater affinity for art" For the purposes of clarify, this is the secondary assertion underminded by the source you cited. |
| 23:52.01 | ProzaicMuze | that doesn't help the argument at all |
| 23:52.03 | Batomys | is jaxter a combination of jak and daxter, like 'tomcat' or 'brangelina'? |
| 23:52.08 | jaxter184 | it is? |
| 23:52.17 | jaxter184 | NO |
| 23:52.22 | ProzaicMuze | howso? |
| 23:52.34 | jaxter184 | i made this up when i was reeealy young |
| 23:52.41 | JademusSreg | Because the tests showed they performed equally in accuracy and timing. |
| 23:52.45 | jaxter184 | ....brangelina? |
| 23:52.45 | Bounty | after playing Jak and Daxter? |
| 23:52.52 | ProzaicMuze | Which I am agreeing to |
| 23:53.06 | JademusSreg | So you concede your second assertion? =D |
| 23:53.06 | jaxter184 | i made it up before jak and daxter came out |
| 23:53.08 | ProzaicMuze | That assertion makes no claim on the actual quality of the performance |
| 23:53.18 | ProzaicMuze | propensity and affinity can be boiled down to "liking it" |
| 23:53.20 | Batomys | brb, running to Pearl's for some frings |
| 23:53.22 | Bounty | You lie jaxter |
| 23:53.24 | ProzaicMuze | So the sentence is, in layman's terms: |
| 23:53.37 | ProzaicMuze | men have a greater chance of liking math than women, women have a greater chance at like art than men |
| 23:53.39 | ProzaicMuze | on average |
| 23:53.57 | ProzaicMuze | quite literally because the male brain functions in such a way as to enjoy math more often |
| 23:54.04 | JademusSreg | (Historically, the word "layman" refered to anyone not of the clerical social caste.) |
| 23:54.06 | ProzaicMuze | and women equally so for art |
| 23:54.12 | Bounty | I'm a man and i never once felt i even had a chance at math |
| 23:54.16 | Bounty | So you lose |
| 23:54.22 | ProzaicMuze | modernly, layman refers to a base definition of the word such as to avoid confusion |
| 23:54.28 | ProzaicMuze | which is how I am using it |
| 23:54.35 | ProzaicMuze | if you prefer, I could say "in base terms" |
| 23:54.59 | flyingspatula | im facepalming at this conversation so hard |
| 23:55.09 | jaxter184 | go look @ lego.com; there is a username of "jaxter184". theres one on runescape too. i'll log on now to prove its me. I (think I) made both before 2001, which is when the first installment of jak and daxter came out |
| 23:55.09 | Bounty | Me to |
| 23:55.18 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 23:55.18 | Bounty | but i'm facepalming because my head hurts from trying to understand it |
| 23:55.44 | ProzaicMuze | here is another article worth reading: http://www.boardingschoolsforgirls.com/study-summary-brain-differences.html |
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| 23:56.04 | flyingspatula | reading the url i got excitied thinking it was a porn site |
| 23:56.09 | flyingspatula | then read the rest of it |
| 23:56.22 | ProzaicMuze | this is more focused on the differences of young men/women |
| 23:56.36 | ProzaicMuze | again, the language/art vs math/spatial |
| 23:56.51 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 23:56.57 | ProzaicMuze | Sorry, no pr0n here |
| 23:57.17 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:57.23 | Bounty | that guy afking in my lobby |
| 23:57.24 | Bounty | is still there |
| 23:57.46 | flyingspatula | less intellectual conversations such as these and more making sc2 maps so we dont ahve to play desert strike |
| 23:57.49 | ProzaicMuze | It's totally me Bounty |
| 23:57.54 | ProzaicMuze | I am haunting your game |
| 23:57.59 | ProzaicMuze | psh |
| 23:58.04 | ProzaicMuze | who says we can't do both? |
| 23:58.04 | Bounty | what is your bnet id? |
| 23:58.07 | Bounty | proove it |
| 23:58.08 | Bounty | >< |
| 23:58.14 | ProzaicMuze | Whatever that guy's B-Net ID |
| 23:58.16 | ProzaicMuze | that is mine |
| 23:58.36 | JademusSreg | I wish it were a more common practice to link to the studies themselves. |
| 23:58.36 | Bounty | You know, i just watched you debate and say things i couldnt even understand |
| 23:58.43 | Bounty | and thats your come back? |
| 23:58.43 | flyingspatula | lol bounty u left ur map in lobby all nite? |
| 23:58.44 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:58.47 | Bounty | no |
| 23:58.49 | flyingspatula | oh |
| 23:58.51 | Bounty | there is some dude named drew |
| 23:58.54 | Bounty | camping in it |
| 23:58.57 | ProzaicMuze | I do too |
| 23:59.00 | Bounty | i just joined and it had like 8 players in it |
| 23:59.02 | ProzaicMuze | but the studies themselves are much harder to find |
| 23:59.04 | Bounty | and they all left |
| 23:59.07 | ProzaicMuze | and often are very slanted |
| 23:59.07 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 23:59.08 | Bounty | bc hes afk |
| 23:59.14 | Bounty | i would give anything |
| 23:59.15 | JademusSreg | And studies are also behind pay walls, most of the time. |
| 23:59.21 | Bounty | to Jay and Silent Bob these mother fuckers |
| 23:59.29 | Bounty | I hope one day that line is blurred |
| 23:59.42 | Bounty | That we're no longer safe from an ass whopping on the internet |
| 23:59.44 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:59.52 | JademusSreg | It is the single greatest irony in the practical domain of science research. |
