IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20120310

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01:32.33TaintedwispRecognize my gangsta
01:32.35Taintedwisplol
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02:28.55BountyJust got done watching Fight Club :). Am i the only one that ones to start a cult everytime after watching that movie
02:29.02Bountythat wants*
02:35.31BountyTaking that as a yes
02:35.57BountyTime to open dat editor
02:43.50DustinAnyone else play that Catacomb Snatch game by mojang?
02:44.05Bountyno idea what that is
02:50.22Dustinhttp://www.catacombsnatch.net/
02:50.29DustinMinecraft guys made it in a weekend
02:53.59JademusSreghttp://kotaku.com/5892093/blizzard-tables-diablo-iii-pvp-in-favor-of-a-timely-release
02:54.01JademusSreg=D
03:00.14flyingspatulawhen is d3 pose to cum out now
03:01.44JademusSregThere's no tasteful way I can respond to that in good humor.
03:02.05flyingspatulalol
03:02.07flyingspatulai know what u mean
03:02.34AlphA_VsTfuck
03:02.44AlphA_VsTpvp will never be in dioablo
03:02.44flyingspatulabitches
03:03.06flyingspatulai hated arena in wow, so id hate it in d3 anyway
03:03.08JademusSregI think you misread that, somehow.
03:03.17BountyJademusSreg
03:03.18AlphA_VsTpvp was suppose to be diablo 2 well at least arena style not what they did
03:03.22BountyCare to assist me real fast?
03:03.30JademusSregWhat's up?
03:03.31BountyNot in a test, just in some basic data
03:03.42BountyI forget how to make it so a splat model appears when selecting a target
03:03.59BountyI remember i did it for Project Avatars, but alas that knowledge has been quite evasive lol
03:04.21Bountyi just need the basics, since i create my actual abilties through triggers
03:04.25Bountyjust a dummy
03:05.14*** join/#sc2mapster UloseTheGame (6c1d3f79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.29.63.121)
03:05.39JademusSregAh, there are selection actors for drawing vectors, there's actors you can create and destroy for the local player using selection actor events, or you can use a trigger to apply a behavior, and have an actor create/destroy on that.
03:06.05Bountyif i recall u just create an actor tied to an ability/effect that targets an area
03:06.13Bountyit was quite simple
03:06.17Bountyi just cant remember how i did it
03:07.02*** join/#sc2mapster UloseTheGame (6c1d3f79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.29.63.121)
03:07.08JademusSregOh.
03:07.33Bountyi remember i created a bunch of dummies
03:07.39Bountyi just cant remember
03:07.43JademusSregYou mean the way actors are applied when targeting an aoe just like in melee.
03:07.48Bountyyeah
03:07.55Bountyi want some of the vehicles abilities to work like that
03:08.06Bountymakes sense right?
03:08.20JademusSregAh, the short version would be to look at the standard data, since I don't know it by memory.
03:08.32JademusSregBut I'll take a look.
03:08.37Bountydoing the same
03:08.41Bountycant figure it out lol
03:10.39JademusSregAbility data -> Effect : Cursor Effect is the starting point.
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03:10.49UloseTheGame_Hello all my homies
03:10.53UloseTheGame_what's up what's good
03:11.04UloseTheGame_I hope you all remember my bro rodrigo from the hood
03:11.06UloseTheGame_^ win
03:11.12UloseTheGame_hey bounty, jade
03:11.15Bountywell yes ive gotten that far jademus
03:11.16JademusSregPew pew.
03:11.16UloseTheGame_you guys might want to check this out
03:11.35Bountyheres what i have s ofar
03:11.42Bountya dummy damage effect
03:11.49Bountya dummy ability with Target Point
03:11.55Bountyor
03:11.57BountyEffect - Target
03:12.05Bountyand the splat actor
03:12.14UloseTheGame_alright so rodrigo made a facebook app lol
03:12.15BountySplat > Cursor Splat
03:12.18JademusSregFrom ability High Templar - Psi Storm, we go to actors and see PsiStormCursorSplat actor.
03:12.19UloseTheGame_called Chat Contesrt
03:12.23UloseTheGame_Chat Contest
03:12.29UloseTheGame_wann check it out you two?
03:12.34UloseTheGame_we need more for some of the stuff
03:12.37JademusSregIt has the event Abil.PsiStorm.Cursor
03:12.38JademusSregSee?
03:12.41JademusSregSimple.
03:12.45Bountyyeah
03:12.46Bountyi have that to
03:12.48Bountylol
03:12.54Bountycheck under the ability itself
03:12.55JademusSregWhat are you saying, Ulose?
03:12.57Bountywhat does it have for effect?
03:13.09Bountyalso
03:13.12Bountyin the actor
03:13.22Bountyi have Abil.DoomMissiles.Cursor - Create
03:13.33Bountyright?
03:14.12JademusSregYeah. Don't forget to set the ability token at the top, in case it matters, and the Art: Model field.
03:14.26Bountyyeah
03:14.29Bountyi have that set aswell
03:14.30Bountylol
03:14.33JademusSregUlose, I don't use facebook apps.
03:14.56JademusSregBounty, what is your ability's Cursor Effect?
03:15.05Bountyi just deleted everything
03:15.07Bountystarting over
03:15.07Bountyok
03:15.10Bountymake actor
03:15.40BountyTarget splat name
03:15.42BountySplat
03:15.44BountyCursor Type
03:15.46Bountyso far so good?
03:16.28JademusSregClarify.
03:16.43JademusSregNeed to be clear, so specify fields.
03:16.44BountyName - Target Splat
03:16.49BountyActor Type - Splat
03:16.54BountyBased on - Cursor Splat
03:17.01Bountynow i have
03:17.11BountyEffect Doom Missiles
03:17.15BountyEffect Type Damage
03:17.25Bountykeep in mind these are dummies
03:17.30Bountyjust to set off the splat
03:17.34Bountyok
03:17.35Bountyand ability
03:17.48BountyName Doom Missiles and Ability type Effect - Target
03:18.04JademusSregWhat is the Cursor Effect?
03:18.16BountyDoom Missiles effect
03:18.30Bountythe dummy damage effect
03:18.33JademusSregThe Cursor Effect needs to be a Search Area effect type.
03:18.33Bountyright?
03:18.38Bountyah
03:18.42Bountyoh you
03:18.43Bounty<3
03:18.55Bountylets try it
03:19.46Bountynope
03:19.47Bountydidnt work
03:20.06Bountywait
03:21.25Bountynope
03:21.27Bountydidnt work
03:21.39Bountyjust name off important fields and ill double check
03:21.53JademusSregHaha.
03:22.02JademusSregI'll check.
03:24.28Bountyalright
03:24.32Bountyfor the events under the splat actor
03:24.38Bountyi have abil-doommissiles.cursor
03:24.54Bountyor maybe its the effect?
03:25.24Bountybtw solving this issue
03:25.31Bountywill thrust development ahead ALOT
03:25.31Bountylol
03:36.12Bountyany luck jademussreg
03:36.52JademusSregI got sidetracked.
03:37.21Bountywell thanks
03:38.32JademusSregAnyway, what I see in the actor is simple. It inherits from ProtossCursorSplat, is Splat type., has the abil token set to PsiStorm, has an Art:Model value defined, and the event Abil.PsiStorm.Cursor is filled in by the token, so all that works smoothly.
03:38.55Bountywell its not working
03:39.21Bountyfuck it then
03:39.21Bountylol
03:39.44JademusSregThe ability, High Templar - Psi Storm, has Effect: Cursor Effect+ of High Templar - Psi Storm Search, because it needs a Search Area effect to know to which units it will apply the actor.
03:39.56Bountyjust forget it
03:39.59Bountyi already quit out lol
03:40.07JademusSregAnd, of course, the effect will need the proper target filters and validators and such shit.
03:40.09Bountyi remember doing it with a dummy
03:40.19Bountythat was a damage effect
03:40.37BountyNONE of the ability was through data
03:40.42JademusSregSounds like an odd way of going about it.
03:40.48Bountyits faster
03:40.54JademusSregHaha.
03:41.03Bountyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKXS6UHYvP0
03:41.16Bountyall of those abilties are triggers
03:42.30BountyLooks like im scratching targetted abilties from the list
03:42.32Bountylol
03:43.17JademusSregYou're not going to implement targeted abilities despite the fact that you've done aoe cursors before?
03:43.27Bountywell i cant fuckign remember
03:43.29Bountyfor the life of me
03:43.34Bountyi really cant
03:43.51JademusSregSounds like frustration.
03:43.58Bountynah
03:44.05Bountywho else is going to help me
03:44.07Bountylol
03:44.11Bountyso its a lost cause
03:44.24JademusSregIf I get stuck, I take a break and get back to it when I make a breakthrough, and work on other shit.
03:44.37Bountyi guess
03:44.41Bountybut im not gonna figure it out
03:44.45Bountyive been working on it for the last hour
03:44.48Bountyand based on how fast i work
03:44.51Bountythats a long time
03:44.52Bountylol
03:48.11Bountythats why i came to you for help jademussreg ><
03:48.24JademusSregThe data involved seems simple enough to me.
03:48.41Bountythen i ask you again, can you help me? :)
03:48.43Bountybuddy ol pal
03:48.43JademusSregAnd I think I covered everything relevant.
03:48.48Bountybut it doesnt work
03:48.57Bountyjust take 10 minutes of your time and make a dummy map
03:49.09Bounty><
03:49.20JademusSregHaha, fine.
03:49.24Bounty<3
03:49.50Bountyi also have a stupid question
03:50.05Bountywhy is my ability button showing up with a 0 as if it had ammo ? lol
03:50.27JademusSregWas the ability duplicated?
03:50.31Bountyno
03:50.34Bountyscratch
03:50.37Bountythats whats so wierd
03:50.40JademusSregOdd.
03:50.44Bountyvery
03:50.46JademusSregDoes it have levels?
03:50.49Bountyim deleting everything though
03:50.53Bountynot that i know of
03:50.55Bountyim deleting the mall
03:50.57JademusSregLike multiple effects in one of the effect arrays?
03:50.58Bountythey didnt work anyways
03:51.01Bountynoe
03:51.07Bountyjust an ability and a dummy effect
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04:02.48JademusSregTesting.
04:03.13Bountykk
04:03.33AlphA_VsTRAWR
04:03.48JademusSregWorked.
04:04.08Bountyok what did u do lol
04:04.35JademusSregI'll put the map on dropbox in a moment.
04:04.49Bountybut
04:04.53Bountyu could just explain it ><
04:05.02Bountycant be that difficult
04:05.10JademusSregI already explained it above.
04:05.18JademusSregI literally explained everything already.
04:05.24Bountyso wtf did i do wrong
04:05.25JademusSregSo now you will see a demonstration.
04:05.30Bountyi did everything u said then
04:05.30Bountylol
04:06.02AlphA_VsTHAHA
04:06.18JademusSreghttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/AoeSplatDemo.SC2Map
04:06.20AlphA_VsToh bounty, not such a quick picker upper
04:06.31JademusSregSet the data view to only the data in the map.
04:06.39JademusSregThe filtermajig.
04:06.56JademusSregAnd you'll see exactly what data I used, and only that.
04:07.03Bountyno shit im not that stupid
04:07.04Bounty=P
04:07.15AlphA_VsT:D
04:08.08JademusSregFeel free to spam the ability, I didn't give it a cooldown.
04:08.10Bountyok and this is why i wanted you to explain it
04:08.14Bountyi have no idea what im lookign at here
04:08.16JademusSregSo it just instakills everything in the aoe.
04:08.32Bountydo you have two effects?
04:08.33Bountywhy
04:08.48JademusSregBecause you need a Search Area effect in the Cursor Effect field.
04:08.57JademusSregWhich I stated 3 times prior.
04:09.01Bountywhich i did
04:09.22JademusSregAnd the other effect field is for the actual effect it uses.
04:09.32Bountyso its useless to me?
04:09.38JademusSregAnd the search area applies the damage effect.
04:10.04JademusSregHow would it be useless?
04:10.20JademusSregThat ability's actual effect can be whatever.
04:10.30JademusSregI just set them to be the same.
04:10.44Bountylol just forget it
04:10.52JademusSregWhat is unclear?
04:10.58Bountyi cant stress enough how stupid i am when it comes to data
04:11.06Bountyi literally need it explained as if i'm a 4 year old
04:11.16Bountyi just dont understand what i did that is differant
04:11.17Bountyat all
04:11.20Bountysearch area effect
04:11.22Bountyetc
04:11.24JademusSregSo compare the xml.
04:11.25Bountyall of it is the same
04:11.32Bountymother fucker
04:11.35Bountypretend im 4 years old
04:11.37Bountylol
04:11.41Bountyda fuck is xml
04:11.42Bounty=P
04:11.58Bountylike
04:11.59JademusSregThe format the data is read from and saved in.
04:12.05Bountydo i need the search area effecto apply an effect?
04:12.15Bountyall i need is the damn splat
04:12.27JademusSregWell, you need an Area, that much is certain.
04:13.19JademusSregAnd if it needs an effect, use a dummy effect. I bet standard data does that for targeting.
04:13.45JademusSregbrb
04:13.56Bountyi got it
04:14.01Bountyi wasnt using an area
04:14.02Bountylol
04:16.19BountyThank you very much Jade
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04:24.19JademusSregNo problem.
04:24.40Dustinhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/843426/TurnDefense.png
04:24.49DustinYou guys think I should do it like the left or the right side?
04:25.24JademusSregSpawn waves?
04:25.57DustinThey are upgrades for your selected Unit
04:27.15JademusSregAh. Seems as fine a place as any.
04:27.59DustinShould I have a button and image
04:28.06Dustinor the image and the upgrade button on the side?
04:28.40JademusSregImage on the button makes sense.
04:29.21JademusSregNo reason to separate them.
04:30.08DustinJust thinking about aesthetics
04:31.14JademusSregI'd put available upgrades above the unit infocard, center screen, to better keep all the UI together.
04:31.33JademusSregRather than the left or right side.
04:32.04DustinWell I have panels that popout with that menu on ther ight
04:32.13Dustinand having it in the middle would cover the action
04:32.14JademusSregAh.
04:32.24JademusSregFair enough.
04:32.36DustinAnd those are gonna have hotkeys to
04:32.44DustinSo you probably wont be clicking them very much
05:01.49UloseTheGame_Dustin, Jade
05:01.50UloseTheGame_http://apps.facebook.com/chatcontest/
05:01.52flyingspatulaso jade, have u finished any ohter maps than photoncycle
05:01.56UloseTheGame_either of you in?
05:02.03UloseTheGame_we need one more lol
05:02.16JademusSregI am involved in projects, which is all I'm willing to say.
05:02.22flyingspatulalol
05:02.48JademusSreg(The answer is yes, but none of the others were any good.)
05:02.57flyingspatulaah
05:03.11flyingspatulaits hard to get ppl to play ur own map even if its amazing
05:03.24DustinDoesnt support Secure browsing
05:03.25flyingspatulaurs has still kept 1-3 pages
05:03.26Dustinwhat is it?
05:03.56flyingspatulai cant come up with any new fresh ideas
05:03.58flyingspatulasigh
05:04.32DustinI have to many fresh ideas and not enough time or patience to make them all
05:05.10flyingspatulawell im more refering to game types rahter than ideas that improve a genre
05:05.37DustinOh cool
05:05.40DustinGame types for what
05:05.48flyingspatulai dunno it just seems like
05:05.59flyingspatulatheres only a specific few types of maps that are ever played
05:07.16flyingspatulai simply cant figure out what the hell makes a map attract sc2 players these days, it was simple in wc2 and sc, a good map made ppl play it...
05:07.23flyingspatulawc3*
05:07.38DustinThere is no way
05:07.54DustinFront page is filled with some of the stupidest crap
05:07.59flyingspatulayeah
05:08.01flyingspatulaand ppl seem to
05:08.04flyingspatulawant to play it regardless
05:08.40flyingspatulawhile i do enjoy making what i imagine, i see sso many good maps gone wasted and its like whats the point
05:08.42DustinI think most of them just dont know how to play other maps, so they only play front page which has been filled with douche taste
05:08.50flyingspatulalol
05:08.58flyingspatulai miss old bnet
05:09.21flyingspatulai remember there was one map on like page 5 that was really cool once
05:09.27flyingspatulai hosted it came back 3 hours later not one person joined
05:09.36flyingspatulawell created it*
05:09.41flyingspatulaw.e u wanna call it
05:09.59DustinKnow what would be a badass site, one that had it#s own database of SC2 maps and people could vote on those and find what servers they were on and such and then just use that site as a #popularity system# to find new maps to play
05:10.18flyingspatulahiveworkshop was pretty good for that
05:10.20flyingspatulaon wc3
05:10.30flyingspatulabut dota kind of was everywhere
05:10.33flyingspatulaon bnet
05:10.34DustinYeah but it was also dedicated to mods and shit
05:10.38flyingspatulayeah
05:10.55flyingspatulai think i have a few maps on hive
05:10.58flyingspatulacant remember
05:10.59DustinThis would be a community run popularity system and map documentation site
05:11.18flyingspatulayeah hard part is
05:11.23flyingspatulagetitng that site wellknown
05:11.34Dustinlol
05:11.47flyingspatulathey should just
05:11.51flyingspatulahave an optional
05:11.55DustinI#ll just be like
05:12.05DustinHey TB, help me promote this shit
05:12.07flyingspatulato view all the games being created that ppl r waiting to fill up
05:12.13DustinAnd everyone will be likem woooooooooo
05:12.16flyingspatulalol
05:12.35DustinOH oh oh
05:12.36DustinHmmmm
05:12.53flyingspatulaold bnet made
05:12.57flyingspatulaall maps have an equal chance
05:13.27DustinI have a program that syncs bank files with a server
05:13.38DustinAnd I can detect when a user is playing a specific map
05:13.45DustinAnd display that on a webpage
05:13.52flyingspatulanice
05:14.15flyingspatulacome up with that urself or
05:14.49flyingspatulai really havent experiemnted with that kinda stuff
05:14.55DustinSo technically I could track that data if players used this software with the site and track whos playing what map if the map maker has a small bit of code added to their map.
05:15.14flyingspatulanice
05:15.46DustinI might wait and see what they do with HOTS, if it still sucks I might do it.
05:16.04flyingspatulaim not sure if i want to buy it
05:16.13flyingspatulaunless i com eup with a neat map idea that i really want to finish
05:16.14flyingspatulai might
05:16.20flyingspatulaotherwise i cant see myself buying it
05:16.43flyingspatulanot gonna lie, i as one of those 100000 ppl who was hoping for amultiplayer FPS
05:16.48flyingspatulabut knew it wouldnt work
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05:17.27flyingspatulais pretty  much all i made in wc3
05:17.33flyingspatulashooters
05:17.34flyingspatulalol
05:18.16DustinI worked on the SPF mod project for WC3 on WC3 Campaigns back in the day
05:18.27flyingspatulaSPF?
05:18.29flyingspatulawhich was that
05:18.34DustinFPS
05:18.36flyingspatulaah wc3campaigns
05:18.48flyingspatulai think i know what ur tlaking about
05:19.05flyingspatulamy map was horrible and unfinished. was WASD for mouse and arrow keys t omove
05:19.13flyingspatulaatleast the lag was less than sc2 tho -_- so sad
05:19.20DustinWe ended up releasing all our work to the public open soure
05:19.37Dustinand some guy made a blademaster mod with it
05:19.41Dustinwas alright
05:19.49flyingspatulalol
05:20.17flyingspatulaim really
05:20.42flyingspatulai mean i can work on simple games in like XNL but thats as far as my basic c# c++ java knowledge goes
05:20.45flyingspatulafor those type of things
05:20.51JademusSreg*XNA
05:20.54flyingspatulaim really not *gifted* or doesnt come natural
05:20.55flyingspatulalol fail
05:20.57flyingspatulai meant XNA
05:20.57flyingspatulaXD
05:21.10flyingspatulawas a football commerical on backround
05:21.11flyingspatulalol
05:21.31Dustinlol
05:21.53Dustinits k, im pretty high so you dont have to explain yourself to me haha
05:21.59flyingspatulalol
05:22.20flyingspatulai was given the creativity/artsy abilities, rather than logic and math
05:22.44DustinI got lucky and am good at both
05:22.49flyingspatulalol
05:24.08flyingspatulai swea rone of these days ill finish a map
05:24.29flyingspatulai always get the core parts then find out someone made something similar but better and quit
05:25.11DustinI just dont have the time to add all the content to mine, but ive been hacking away at this cool new defense map
05:25.20flyingspatulalol
05:25.27flyingspatulayeah defense maps seem to be the big thing
05:25.29flyingspatulain sc2
05:25.33flyingspatuladefense and tugowars
05:25.38flyingspatulawhynot make a map with BOTH lol
05:26.13Dustinhehe, It#s a defense / rpg elements / economic map
05:27.10flyingspatulawhats economic map about
05:27.38DustinYOu have 2 miners and 2 resources, minerals and gas. You can use minerals to buy weapons for your hero or donate them to the AI town so they can produce units and tech up. you can use the gas to purchase upgrades for your hero or unlock special units for the AI to build.
05:27.50DustinYou can also upgrade your miners
05:28.11flyingspatulaoh thats kinda interesting
05:28.28DustinAnd can switch them between the resources at anytime, so its about managing Hero level and AI strength
05:28.40flyingspatulaah thats pretty cool
05:28.53DustinAre you NA?
05:33.56flyingspatulayeah
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05:51.30RipperRoois an admin of mapster here?
05:52.21RipperRooGrum Sixen Kaelten prencher ? :S
05:53.43Bountytrololol
05:53.54RipperRoo?
05:53.57RipperRoowhat ? :S
05:55.45AlphA_VsTyay rewrote my control point script :D
05:55.51SixenWhat's up?
05:56.01JademusSregSHEZAM
05:56.35Bountywhy the hell are you awake Sixen
05:56.38Bountygo to sleep
05:56.42Sixenit's 11pm o_o
05:57.36Bountywell
05:57.40Bountyi got nothin
06:02.35flyingspatulawhat kind amap alpha?
06:02.56AlphA_VsTmy zombie map...
06:03.12AlphA_VsTi'm redoing the triggers and shit...
06:03.49flyingspatulaah
06:04.05flyingspatulawhat control points play factor in it
06:04.05flyingspatulahow*
06:04.35AlphA_VsTyou control points :D
06:04.51flyingspatulalol
06:06.37flyingspatulai always liked the idea of a zombie map that u were just barricaded inside a building and u had to keep windows and doors boarded up or blocked
06:06.42flyingspatulaand fight any who get in
06:06.51flyingspatulanot giant massive zombie maps
06:07.14Dustinspatula, wanna try out what I ahve so far in a bit?
06:07.30flyingspatulasure
06:07.30AlphA_VsTwell this is a giant zombie map :P
06:07.34AlphA_VsTwell not really
06:07.34flyingspatulaah lol
06:07.44AlphA_VsTit grows depending on the game
06:07.54flyingspatulathats cool
06:10.37AlphA_VsTcompletely random games, auto balanced... just fun times :D
06:12.01flyingspatulai guess i just never was a fan of endless killing zerglings with hero
06:12.36AlphA_VsTbecasue that;s nto fun :D
06:12.50flyingspatulalool
06:13.56AlphA_VsTsee zombies are stupid they just out number you... one second you can be winning and then the next bam you lost, because of poor team work
06:16.37AlphA_VsTeasy to play hard to master like... yay
06:36.04AlphA_VsTrawr
06:42.33AlphA_VsTi decided to redo the timer trigger just giving me to many issues 0.o
06:50.56Bountyur gonna love the Vultures special JademusSreg
06:51.07Bountyhe makes duplicates of himself that are actually projectiles that do damage lol
06:52.04AlphA_VsT:D
06:52.07AlphA_VsTAMAZING!
06:52.12JademusSregHah.
06:54.57AlphA_VsTrawr
07:00.26BountyCare for a quick test to see what i have so far Jade?
07:01.07RipperRooseriously jademusreg is a bot who writes "i awaken" when goes online... and throughs random "Hah." once in a while :S
07:04.07JademusSregHah.
07:04.13JademusSregSorry, I'm about to sleep.
07:04.27JademusSregTurning in early, which is roughly 2 am.
07:05.15Bountyso takign that as a no
07:05.19Bounty><
07:07.26AlphA_VsThow do you figure, its not like he says completely random shit about topics that are currently being talked about...
07:07.44Bountybut... thats exactly what he does
07:09.36AlphA_VsTI know :D
07:09.39RipperRoogn8 jade :D
07:09.46*** join/#sc2mapster Sixen (~Sixen@173-25-23-124.client.mchsi.com)
07:09.46*** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ
07:09.54Mexa_Alpha, you're continuing on the paper map :D?
07:09.58RipperRoooh u are back sixen xD
07:10.22JademusSreg(HAh.)
07:10.28Mexa_Oh meh, I gtg to sleep too
07:10.45Mexa_Going home for a starter, cyas!
07:12.57AlphA_VsTEAK!
07:13.11AlphA_VsThmm values are not being set I thought they where :(
07:17.25*** join/#sc2mapster MaxMode (~Adium@ip184-187-180-50.sb.sd.cox.net)
07:25.20AlphA_VsTYAY! now it works correctly :P
07:27.43AlphA_VsTmaybe why the timer thing was broken :P
07:27.52AlphA_VsTstill redoing it though
07:41.12BountyI think i'm going to watch Fight Club again
07:41.13Bountylol
07:41.21Bountythis fuckin movie man
07:41.23Bountyi tell ya
07:41.28Bountyits like crack
07:43.09AlphA_VsTlol never seen it
07:43.36Bounty....
07:43.41Bountyreally?
07:43.53Bountyi dont usually promote piracy but
07:43.56Bountydownload it
07:44.03Bountynow lol
07:44.24Bountyevery male should see this movie atleast one time in his life
07:45.21AlphA_VsTlol
07:45.22AlphA_VsTno
07:45.29AlphA_VsTmaybe soemtime
07:46.03flyingspatuladustin u still around?
07:46.41________________so im launching a missile through this chain: Persistent > Search > Launch Missile... & I want to make the missile spawn off the ground, any ideas?
07:47.15________________JK
07:47.22________________dont say nething
07:47.24________________im dumb
07:48.02flyingspatulalol
07:49.16Dustinyo
07:49.52*** join/#sc2mapster Dekar (~Dekar@p4FCEB2DA.dip.t-dialin.net)
07:50.25flyingspatulahey u mentioned
07:50.30flyingspatulau wanted me to do sumthin?
07:50.39flyingspatulai was afk a while
07:51.20DustinYeah I just got this upgrade panel workin
07:51.25DustinWanna help me test?
07:51.33________________me2 me2!
07:52.02flyingspatulasure
07:52.15flyingspatular u NA
07:52.28Dustinya
07:52.30flyingspatulaok
07:52.36flyingspatulai srsly hate how they divided zones
07:52.37________________damn, nvm the way i was trying seems to not work =\
07:52.39Dustinmeet in #sc2mapster
07:52.47flyingspatulak
07:52.52________________so i need help making a missile launch higher than ground level =\
07:53.18flyingspatulauh
07:54.21*** join/#sc2mapster RazielZ (~Raziel@78.97.99.188)
07:54.34________________ne1 have a clue?
07:54.45________________(bcuz the launch offset in the LM effect seems to not work)
07:55.21AlphA_VsTwhat you trying to do?
07:56.05________________launch a missile from a point on my unit that isntt he ground
07:56.47AlphA_VsTso set the height?
07:57.07________________??
07:57.43________________height where
07:59.18AlphA_VsTmodify the unit?
07:59.51________________oh thats boring
07:59.55________________but i guess it works
08:00.53AlphA_VsTlol i have no idea really :P
08:01.00AlphA_VsTcould be a better way
08:01.08________________probs
08:01.12________________hmm
08:01.19________________i wonder if this will make my missiles launch funny
08:01.21________________*test time&
08:02.28AlphA_VsT:D
08:04.17Currydevilhumm, i need pretty up my terrain now.
08:06.59________________@dustin http://i.imgur.com/YcULp.jpg
08:07.38DustinOH
08:07.40DustinI know why
08:08.02*** join/#sc2mapster Mexa_ (504ed854@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.78.216.84)
08:09.07AlphA_VsT?
08:09.43________________yup, that height thing fukd shiit up
08:09.48________________cant do the unit height chance
08:09.51________________change*
08:09.58________________need a diff method=\
08:12.16AlphA_VsThaha :(
08:13.16________________its weird cuz the CP effect can change the missile position on a 2D plane easy enough
08:13.21________________but up and down, nope
08:17.08AlphA_VsT:(
08:23.27flyingspatulaook srsly, why does sc2mapster maps/assets not have a search function -_-
08:23.37flyingspatulameans i have to scan thru forum results if i use site search
08:23.38________________lol
08:24.21flyingspatulatryint to brainstorm ideas from playing lots of maps
08:25.03AlphA_VsTit does :D
08:25.14*** join/#sc2mapster SoulTaker916_ (~SoulTaker@108-88-97-1.lightspeed.mtryca.sbcglobal.net)
08:25.14AlphA_VsTkinda
08:25.21SoulTaker916_alpha
08:25.31SoulTaker916_im trying to delete a bank file
08:25.38SoulTaker916_i mean whipe the whole sucker clean
08:25.42SoulTaker916_how would i do that
08:25.54SoulTaker916_remove bank doesnt say anything about destroying it
08:26.20SoulTaker916_07AlphA_VsT01
08:26.23SoulTaker916_pingaling
08:26.24AlphA_VsTyeah?
08:26.31flyingspatulasup soul... im grimoire
08:26.42SoulTaker916_oh ya
08:26.45SoulTaker916_i remember
08:26.53SoulTaker916_07AlphA_VsT01
08:26.56AlphA_VsTyou go through the file and set all values to 0
08:26.57SoulTaker916_i need to remove bank
08:27.13AlphA_VsTor im sure you can remove teh bank :P
08:27.13SoulTaker916_well u mean like brute force the sucker?
08:27.27SoulTaker916_remove bank = delete file?
08:27.39SoulTaker916_seems to be from description it just unmounts the bank
08:27.48AlphA_VsTremove bank section?
08:28.14AlphA_VsTyeah remove bank just unload the bank from the game
08:28.19SoulTaker916_eh close enough i guess
08:29.08SoulTaker916_alpha why r u the only nice guy here
08:29.12SoulTaker916_other than jade
08:29.13SoulTaker916_XD
08:29.21AlphA_VsTidono
08:30.29SoulTaker916_is there a way to store and retrieve a unit variable from bank?
08:30.34flyingspatulaya but half the time u have no idea what jade is even talking about
08:30.41SoulTaker916_i see here "last restored unit"
08:31.47SoulTaker916_oh wait i see store unit...
08:33.23SoulTaker916_oh maybe i should sit down and read
08:33.32SoulTaker916_AlphA_VsT just make my map for me
08:33.33SoulTaker916_NOA!
08:33.34SoulTaker916_:P
08:33.48AlphA_VsTim fixing paper zombies so no :P
08:35.55SoulTaker916_alphA_Vst im starting to get into skills and data
08:36.11SoulTaker916_i was wondering if u have any hero skills u would like to donate to my edumacation
08:36.25SoulTaker916_if i use them ill metion your name in the descriptions
08:36.48AlphA_VsTi have none sorry :P
08:36.50AlphA_VsToh wait
08:39.10SoulTaker916_?
08:39.11AlphA_VsThttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/test.SC2Map sound be my evade skill :P
08:39.48AlphA_VsTnot what you would actually call useful for you probably :P
08:40.11AlphA_VsTit just redirects the users current move with a speed boost
08:40.54SoulTaker916_maybe
08:41.01SoulTaker916_it sounds like the zelots rush thingy
08:42.33AlphA_VsTnot even close :P but kinda
08:42.50SoulTaker916_oh?
08:42.57AlphA_VsTtest it out
08:44.07SoulTaker916_ok 1 second
08:44.09SoulTaker916_:P
08:44.16SoulTaker916_i need to test out my larvas
08:45.07AlphA_VsTlol
08:45.32Currydevilhttp://imgur.com/8dAUv the center cap point
08:46.00SoulTaker916_??
08:46.44AlphA_VsTyay
08:47.00AlphA_VsThaving issues with my points :(
08:47.03AlphA_VsTfucking game
08:47.42Currydevillol
08:50.21AlphA_VsTidono why its not changing control now :(
08:50.32________________D:
08:52.19flyingspatulabtw soultaker, i liked your bob concept for that map but could have been done in a different way which i guess is just my own opinion. played it real quick i remember it now bc of the intro lol
08:52.45AlphA_VsTlol
08:54.00flyingspatulaa td imo shouldnt require much unit micromanagement
08:54.16flyingspatulabut i think the idea of someone controlling a unit doign things that help the team defense is a neat idea
08:54.52SoulTaker916_ive seen a td
08:54.54SoulTaker916_befor
08:55.01SoulTaker916_were players spawned units
08:55.15SoulTaker916_and they are forced to go down the def on the enxt player in like
08:55.21AlphA_VsTany pvp td is that like
08:55.24SoulTaker916_like the players r arranged in 8 lines
08:55.26SoulTaker916_ya
08:55.32SoulTaker916_ur talking team tho
08:55.40SoulTaker916_take it and make 1-3 lines
08:55.43SoulTaker916_and done
08:55.48SoulTaker916_make players share lines
08:55.56flyingspatulai dont get why ppl do that. its not that difficult to make more complex ai and pathing
08:57.18flyingspatulabut then again im someone who thinks a cat and mouse style td/tugowar mix would be fun
08:57.48SoulTaker916_than do it
08:57.50SoulTaker916_:P
08:57.52flyingspatulalol
08:58.01SoulTaker916_ill help u if u want but im not that cool with pathing
08:58.08SoulTaker916_never tried true pathing
08:58.26flyingspatulawell
08:59.17AlphA_VsTlol
08:59.23flyingspatulaactually i hav eno idea what i was about to say
08:59.34AlphA_VsTreally
08:59.43flyingspatulalol
09:01.23AlphA_VsT:D
09:02.08flyingspatulaits hard to come up with a way to do tower making aggressive
09:02.17flyingspatulalike offensively
09:02.50SoulTaker916_ya
09:02.55SoulTaker916_thats why its called TD
09:02.58SoulTaker916_not TO
09:03.01AlphA_VsT:D
09:03.03flyingspatulalol
09:03.05flyingspatulai know haha
09:03.07flyingspatulabut
09:03.25AlphA_VsThmmm tower offense :P
09:03.30flyingspatulahaha
09:03.33flyingspatulayeah sounds wierd
09:03.37SoulTaker916_lol
09:03.39flyingspatulabut wha ti meant by that was
09:03.52SoulTaker916_ya blizzard will have to make a new section
09:03.56SoulTaker916_just for u
09:04.05flyingspatulayour builder is more like a hero, minus abilities ofc cuz u build. but you have alot of front line involvement
09:04.05flyingspatulahaha
09:04.09flyingspatulaXD
09:04.24flyingspatulabut you can die from other players towers
09:04.25SoulTaker916_OH OH I KNOW
09:04.27flyingspatulalike traps or anything
09:04.36SoulTaker916_make a defense line
09:04.51flyingspatulawhat ya mean
09:04.55SoulTaker916_then give the cannons and stuff move ability and let the ai move the defenses into eachother
09:04.58SoulTaker916_see who wins
09:04.59SoulTaker916_:P
09:05.02flyingspatulalol
09:05.12flyingspatula-_______________-
09:05.48________________u called?
09:05.52________________o, nvm
09:06.15SoulTaker916_lolz...
09:06.18flyingspatulaguess to put it simple, trying to merge together aspects of a TD and TugoWar and making the player not just sit around in 1 spot  building. but actually moving and kind of a risk vs reward
09:06.21flyingspatulahaha
09:06.23flyingspatulaclever you
09:07.02SoulTaker916_look
09:07.04SoulTaker916_i find
09:07.08SoulTaker916_simplicity works best
09:07.12flyingspatulaagreed
09:07.17SoulTaker916_we all make makes but everyday phantom is on page one
09:07.20AlphA_VsTyou would need a grid and you could teleport towers with a cooldown of course
09:07.21AlphA_VsTlolol
09:07.21SoulTaker916_those lazy bastard
09:07.37SoulTaker916_for reals...
09:07.41flyingspatulaahaha
09:07.46SoulTaker916_simplist map EVER
09:07.52SoulTaker916_all of us here can make it
09:07.55SoulTaker916_IN OUR SLEEP
09:08.07flyingspatuladesert strike seems to be one of the most popular maps lately
09:08.10SoulTaker916_programming tallent and complexity matters not
09:08.10flyingspatulaand
09:08.18flyingspatulawhy the fuck is squad td
09:08.20flyingspatulaso popular
09:08.29SoulTaker916_people r dumb
09:08.32flyingspatulalol
09:08.33SoulTaker916_they love protect bob
09:08.39SoulTaker916_I mean some people r addicted
09:08.48flyingspatulalol
09:08.51SoulTaker916_seriously
09:08.54flyingspatulaand eye of the tiger
09:09.02SoulTaker916_ya... i need a new song
09:09.06flyingspatulalol
09:09.11SoulTaker916_i also got voice actors for this game
09:09.20flyingspatulalol
09:10.17SoulTaker916_seriouslt
09:10.23flyingspatulanice
09:10.29SoulTaker916_some sexy people from college are going to do the intro
09:10.32SoulTaker916_and some tutorials
09:10.36flyingspatulalol
09:10.41SoulTaker916_CAUSE IM FUCKING SICK OF PEOPLE NOT READING
09:10.46flyingspatulahah
09:10.49SoulTaker916_so im going to get people to yell at them
09:10.55flyingspatulalol
09:11.03SoulTaker916_i mean come on!!! i put minerals RIGHT IN FRONT OF U
09:11.09flyingspatulalmao
09:11.10SoulTaker916_and u dont realize ur suppose to mine it
09:11.12SoulTaker916_and instead
09:11.25SoulTaker916_i had to put cheep normal mineral fields from melee
09:11.34SoulTaker916_so u can feel normal
09:11.38flyingspatulahah
09:11.49SoulTaker916_its 10000x better to mine the minerals infront of u
09:12.00SoulTaker916_I EVEN PUT TEXT OVER THE MINERALS
09:12.03SoulTaker916_it says
09:12.04flyingspatulai saw
09:12.07flyingspatulaMINE HERE
09:12.09SoulTaker916_"Mine this"
09:12.10SoulTaker916_ya
09:12.11SoulTaker916_or w/e
09:12.12flyingspatulalol
09:12.17SoulTaker916_STILL!!
09:12.21SoulTaker916_fucking retarded
09:12.21flyingspatulalol
09:12.41SoulTaker916_so this time maybe if tell them to mine whats infront of them verbally
09:12.47SoulTaker916_oh and other stuff i noticed
09:12.56SoulTaker916_how do u get supers? what does this pad do?
09:13.01SoulTaker916_did u read the pad!!!
09:13.07flyingspatulalol
09:13.12flyingspatulabob goes here
09:13.17SoulTaker916_and of course no one reads the help.....
09:13.23SoulTaker916_the help has everything
09:13.25SoulTaker916_EVERYTHING
09:13.28SoulTaker916_even the cool stuck
09:13.36SoulTaker916_like letting the AI handle ur men
09:13.37SoulTaker916_and fight
09:13.46SoulTaker916_so u can focus on the important stuff
09:13.51flyingspatulathats alwyas nice
09:13.54SoulTaker916_or selectr just ur supers
09:13.58SoulTaker916_or just ur megas
09:14.00SoulTaker916_or worker
09:14.04SoulTaker916_so manny commands...
09:14.07flyingspatulalol
09:14.26SoulTaker916_i still get questions to add a ai players men to fight the enemey
09:14.28SoulTaker916_OH!
09:14.40SoulTaker916_the other day, they guy wanted an option to REPLAY the intro song
09:14.46SoulTaker916_told him type -music A
09:14.49SoulTaker916_...
09:14.50flyingspatulalol
09:14.51SoulTaker916_its in the help
09:15.04flyingspatulaemail?
09:15.13flyingspatulai still get emails from my wc3 maps
09:15.14SoulTaker916_in the help
09:15.18flyingspatulai meant guy
09:15.19flyingspatulawho asked
09:15.54flyingspatulareminds me
09:16.09AlphA_VsTOMG!
09:16.14AlphA_VsTI THINK I FIXED IT :(
09:16.18flyingspatulaof me making utube video of my map and id always get messages WHERE I DOWNLOAD THIS... and im alwyas like I LEFT THE LINK UNDER THE VIDEO IN HUGE LETTERS
09:16.35SoulTaker916_yes...
09:16.38SoulTaker916_i know right..
09:16.45SoulTaker916_but i cant be too man
09:16.50SoulTaker916_i do the same thing
09:16.51flyingspatulalol
09:16.52SoulTaker916_to other people
09:16.58AlphA_VsTOMG
09:17.00AlphA_VsTfuck me
09:17.09flyingspatulaim really shocked ppl msg me about wc3 crap i made
09:17.16flyingspatulawhat r u even doing alpha
09:17.22AlphA_VsTi changed the color converter to a while from a switch
09:17.27AlphA_VsTand that fucking broke my map
09:17.28AlphA_VsT:(
09:17.31flyingspatulalolol
09:18.22SoulTaker916_LOL
09:18.36SoulTaker916_why would a while = switch
09:18.55SoulTaker916_while = for and if else if= switch
09:18.57SoulTaker916_??
09:19.14flyingspatulaswitch isnt evne a switch in galaxy
09:19.31AlphA_VsTI KNOW!
09:19.32SoulTaker916_uh....
09:19.34SoulTaker916_what...
09:19.45SoulTaker916_since when is a switch not a switch *head explodes*
09:19.46flyingspatulait has like no uh
09:19.50flyingspatulalool
09:19.56AlphA_VsT<PROTECTED>
09:19.57AlphA_VsT<PROTECTED>
09:19.57AlphA_VsT<PROTECTED>
09:19.57AlphA_VsT<PROTECTED>
09:19.57AlphA_VsT<PROTECTED>
09:19.59AlphA_VsT<PROTECTED>
09:20.01AlphA_VsT<PROTECTED>
09:20.03AlphA_VsT<PROTECTED>
09:20.07AlphA_VsT:D
09:20.09AlphA_VsTthats my whole switch
09:20.22flyingspatulaoh
09:20.25flyingspatulalol u cant do that XD
09:21.03AlphA_VsTi switched it up to a while and it broke everything :P
09:21.03SoulTaker916_doesnt look liek a switch
09:21.08AlphA_VsTits not really
09:21.10SoulTaker916_looks like a gate or somthign
09:21.12AlphA_VsTlol
09:22.49SoulTaker916_its cool
09:22.51SoulTaker916_im pissed also
09:22.54SoulTaker916_I HAVE NO IDEA
09:23.02SoulTaker916_why i cant restore this damn unit
09:23.17SoulTaker916_i think its cause god hates me
09:23.20SoulTaker916_or jesus...
09:23.26SoulTaker916_or.... my ex gf
09:23.29SoulTaker916_one of them
09:24.05SoulTaker916_i might go on a murder spree
09:24.10SoulTaker916_and blame video games
09:24.57AlphA_VsTlol
09:25.04SoulTaker916_help me with this
09:25.06AlphA_VsThow are you restoring it?
09:25.06SoulTaker916_would you
09:25.08SoulTaker916_plz?
09:25.24SoulTaker916_so if the person doesnt have a unit stored on file
09:25.45SoulTaker916_Unit - Create 1 Hero Larva for player (Picked player) at Start Location 000 using default facing (No Options)                         Variable - Set unit = (Last created unit)                         Bank - Store unit unit as "heroA" of section "hero" in bank player bank[(Picked player)]                         UI - Display "works? E" for (All players) to Subtitle area                         Unit - Remove unit from
09:26.03SoulTaker916_which created a hero larva attacks it to a variable and stores it in the bank
09:26.11SoulTaker916_which should be open and working
09:26.18SoulTaker916_Bank - Restore "heroA" of section "hero" from bank player bank[(Picked player)] for player (Picked player) at (Start location of player (Picked player)) facing 0.0
09:26.27SoulTaker916_then it continues and does this
09:26.42SoulTaker916_but im getting a weird message on that last line
09:27.00AlphA_VsTare you preloading the bank and everything
09:27.06flyingspatulaive never used banks and datatables, is it really that much better?
09:27.26SoulTaker916_it saves from game to game
09:27.30SoulTaker916_so i guess?
09:27.32flyingspatulaoh
09:27.36SoulTaker916_ya here let me send u the whole thing
09:27.49AlphA_VsTok
09:28.21SoulTaker916_what do u use to drop code?
09:28.54AlphA_VsTpastebin?
09:29.08AlphA_VsTscreen shots?
09:29.14AlphA_VsTsend the file?
09:29.20SoulTaker916_http://pastebin.com/qRhTDLsG
09:29.50SoulTaker916_but ya flying spatula
09:30.03SoulTaker916_since in the new game im doing rpg hero mumbojumbo
09:30.08SoulTaker916_i want heros to lvl every game
09:30.11SoulTaker916_and stick around
09:30.16flyingspatulaah ok
09:30.17SoulTaker916_so im trying to load them into this
09:30.25flyingspatulagotcha
09:30.53SoulTaker916_07AlphA_VsT01
09:30.59SoulTaker916_everything seems to work
09:31.15SoulTaker916_and i copyed the code from another bank file i was using and just edited it up abit
09:31.36AlphA_VsTbobfriendsadmin != bobfriends
09:31.42SoulTaker916_oh!
09:31.44SoulTaker916_ops!
09:31.46SoulTaker916_lolz..
09:31.50SoulTaker916_oh penjis
09:32.03AlphA_VsT:D
09:32.29SoulTaker916_nope
09:32.31SoulTaker916_still fucking up
09:32.42AlphA_VsTwell thats at lest one reason
09:32.43AlphA_VsT:P
09:33.13SoulTaker916_kinda..
09:33.20AlphA_VsT<PROTECTED>
09:33.20SoulTaker916_it was opening a different preload bank
09:33.21AlphA_VsT<PROTECTED>
09:33.21AlphA_VsT<PROTECTED>
09:33.21AlphA_VsT<PROTECTED>
09:33.21AlphA_VsT<PROTECTED>
09:33.21AlphA_VsT<PROTECTED>
09:33.33AlphA_VsTi have no idea what that is :P
09:33.41AlphA_VsTor if its correct
09:33.44SoulTaker916_it verifies the signature
09:33.51SoulTaker916_and then verifies a second key
09:33.56SoulTaker916_so if i want to reset everyone
09:33.57AlphA_VsTwhat is the playerbankcode
09:34.04SoulTaker916_i can upload the map with a different key
09:34.08SoulTaker916_and poof
09:34.10SoulTaker916_all gone
09:34.23SoulTaker916_easy way to reset
09:34.57SoulTaker916_but that should work i tested it on the other bank
09:35.32AlphA_VsTso ar eyou getting " UI - Display "works? C" for (All players) to Subtitle area"
09:35.48SoulTaker916_no and thats normal/ok
09:35.57SoulTaker916_oh wait....
09:36.02SoulTaker916_damn..
09:36.28AlphA_VsTwell your values are set to == so you should be
09:36.33SoulTaker916_oh wat im ok
09:36.42SoulTaker916_im not getting c
09:36.48SoulTaker916_cause i dont want to get c yet
09:36.57SoulTaker916_and i havent set the bank code in the bank
09:37.06SoulTaker916_cause i want to make sure its going to give me my larva
09:37.11AlphA_VsToh
09:37.19SoulTaker916_so it should always fail
09:37.32SoulTaker916_which for now is what i want
09:37.34AlphA_VsTso do you get  "works? d"
09:37.40SoulTaker916_i get them all
09:37.44SoulTaker916_every single one
09:37.47SoulTaker916_except c
09:37.49SoulTaker916_XD
09:37.54AlphA_VsTthen what is the issue?
09:38.00SoulTaker916_no larva
09:38.11SoulTaker916_and a red error message for the restore unit action
09:39.14SoulTaker916_oh whats weird...
09:39.36AlphA_VsTwhat?
09:39.41SoulTaker916_ahaha
09:39.44SoulTaker916_i didnt save
09:39.48SoulTaker916_lolz!!!
09:39.51AlphA_VsT?
09:39.53AlphA_VsTreally?
09:39.53flyingspatulaFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIL
09:40.13SoulTaker916_ya u see a save
09:40.17SoulTaker916_after store unit?
09:40.19SoulTaker916_NO
09:40.28SoulTaker916_and i got no bobsfriends bank
09:40.29AlphA_VsToh yeah :P
09:40.34SoulTaker916_in my documents
09:40.42SoulTaker916_i was like...
09:40.45SoulTaker916_were did it go
09:40.48SoulTaker916_lets see if it works
09:40.54SoulTaker916_man, WHAT and adventure
09:40.58AlphA_VsT:D
09:41.10AlphA_VsTi missed it also so
09:41.19SoulTaker916_well
09:41.22SoulTaker916_it didnt work
09:41.23SoulTaker916_:(
09:41.38SoulTaker916_the bank has no data
09:41.43SoulTaker916_well
09:41.47SoulTaker916_except the signature
09:43.35AlphA_VsTit saved the bank though?
09:43.44SoulTaker916_nope
09:43.47SoulTaker916_bank has nothing
09:43.52SoulTaker916_but atleast theres a bank now
09:44.29AlphA_VsTthats what i asked
09:44.34SoulTaker916_ah
09:44.35SoulTaker916_well
09:44.43SoulTaker916_i disabled "remove unit"
09:44.51SoulTaker916_and there isnt a larva at location 000
09:44.59AlphA_VsTyou might want to do a for each unit instead of a pick each unit
09:45.15SoulTaker916_unit?
09:45.21SoulTaker916_its pick each player
09:45.26AlphA_VsTerr for each player
09:45.44AlphA_VsTpick is dirty
09:45.48AlphA_VsTa dirty whore
09:45.56SoulTaker916_lolz
09:46.00SoulTaker916_yes it is
09:46.08SoulTaker916_especialy when u copy her
09:46.56AlphA_VsTswitch it to pick and it should fix it :P
09:48.38SoulTaker916_well i did
09:48.42SoulTaker916_but its still now spawning
09:48.44SoulTaker916_so i said
09:48.48SoulTaker916_spawn for player 1
09:48.50SoulTaker916_no variable
09:48.55SoulTaker916_and still nothing
09:49.00SoulTaker916_it just takes larva i guess
09:50.15AlphA_VsT?
09:50.26SoulTaker916_i have
09:50.40SoulTaker916_a simple trigger
09:50.45SoulTaker916_at map initialization
09:50.58SoulTaker916_create 1000 hero larva at location 001 for player 1
09:51.00SoulTaker916_nothing
09:51.34AlphA_VsThmmm
09:51.47SoulTaker916_tried it with unmodified larva
09:51.49SoulTaker916_nothing
09:52.56AlphA_VsTare you sure?
09:53.24SoulTaker916_yep
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09:54.14SoulTaker916_fixed it
09:54.16SoulTaker916_its the mover
09:54.18AlphA_VsT?
09:54.21AlphA_VsTmover?
09:54.24SoulTaker916_creep mover wont let u spawn on creep
09:54.27SoulTaker916_i mean
09:54.32SoulTaker916_u have to spawn on creep
09:54.36AlphA_VsT:D
09:54.44SoulTaker916_once i changed the mover to ground everything worked
09:54.50AlphA_VsTbecause it dies off creep :D
09:54.55SoulTaker916_somone should make a note of that
09:54.56SoulTaker916_no
09:54.58SoulTaker916_i removed that
09:55.02AlphA_VsToh really?
09:55.05SoulTaker916_ya
09:55.08Vailrethyep
09:55.14SoulTaker916_hey vail
09:55.20Vailrethhello
09:56.53SoulTaker916_thats bad ass it works
09:58.02AlphA_VsTwow thats lame haha
09:58.15AlphA_VsTbut yeah good that it works
10:01.56Vailreth4 am for me and i do not want  to be up...
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10:02.21AlphA_VsTops
10:02.22SoulTaker916_ALPHA
10:02.24SoulTaker916_i missed u
10:02.30SoulTaker916_\*pets ur sexy head*
10:02.31AlphA_VsTi have no idea how i always manage to do that
10:04.23AlphA_VsTbut i do
10:04.25AlphA_VsT:D
10:04.25Vailrethwelcome back
10:04.29AlphA_VsTlol
10:04.39SoulTaker916_omg
10:04.43SoulTaker916_my parrents r gone
10:04.50SoulTaker916_so now i have to sleep with the dog
10:04.53SoulTaker916_or else hes lonly
10:04.55SoulTaker916_>.>
10:05.02SoulTaker916_cats pissed also
10:05.21SoulTaker916_keeps trying to swat the dog out of the room
10:05.50AlphA_VsTlol
10:05.51AlphA_VsTwhat
10:06.02SoulTaker916_so
10:06.06SoulTaker916_normal days
10:06.13SoulTaker916_cat sleeps with me dog with parrents
10:06.26SoulTaker916_parrents r on vacation and the dog gets lonly and wimpers
10:06.34SoulTaker916_so somone has to sleep with him
10:06.37SoulTaker916_and im odd one out
10:06.54flyingspatulawhy r u telling us this?
10:06.57SoulTaker916_so the cat is swating at the dog*hes not terrified or anything*
10:07.01SoulTaker916_uh...
10:07.04SoulTaker916_cause im upset
10:07.08flyingspatulalol
10:07.09SoulTaker916_and u need to comfort me
10:08.26AlphA_VsTlol wow
10:08.44AlphA_VsTkill dog, no more issues
10:08.45Vailrethi was having a badass dream until the main characters head explodeded and his brain was yelling at the evil AI Cyber Bitch that had him imprisioned.
10:09.19AlphA_VsTyou dream of other people while you sleep? weird :P
10:09.28SoulTaker916_wtf........................................................
10:09.33AlphA_VsTshouldnt you have been the hero?
10:10.20AlphA_VsTyou probably have low self esteem and hardly and confidence :D
10:10.24Vailrether no then MY head would have exploded and it would have been MY exposed brain yelling at the Evil AI Cyber Bitch
10:10.46Vailrethi dream in stories
10:11.46flyingspatulaI occasionally have a dream I am riding a dirt bike and I get stuck trying to fit through a McDonalds drive thru.
10:11.59flyingspatulamade no sense
10:12.05flyingspatulabut thats dreams for ya i guess
10:12.58Vailrethyeah. the dream started as me going to a school sanctioned educamp at some sciencey facility...but when we got there every one was dead already
10:13.25SoulTaker916_my dreams start with hot girls and end up being stuck to my bed in the morning
10:14.15Vailreththen the zombies came....and every one contracted smallpox, and then NCIS showed up and ducky and i were betting on if it was small pox or anthrax that the zombies had
10:14.57SoulTaker916_my dreams if it goes wrong it will
10:15.04AlphA_VsT:D
10:15.06SoulTaker916_but dude
10:15.08SoulTaker916_wtf
10:15.14AlphA_VsTweirdos
10:15.16SoulTaker916_i never have vivid dreams like that
10:15.27Vailreththants not the half of it
10:15.48SoulTaker916_cant u have like a many dream
10:15.50SoulTaker916_like me
10:15.51SoulTaker916_?
10:16.05flyingspatulaI had a dream I was killing nazi zombies by spitting acid at them so I woke up next morning in a pool of spit on my pillow.
10:16.08Vailrethi didnt mention the mind controlled japanese girl who was the personal assassin of an evil Mc Donalds AI
10:16.39SoulTaker916_lol...
10:17.06flyingspatulawhen i play cod or bf too much my gf tells me i make explosion noises in my sleep
10:17.08flyingspatulalol
10:17.24Vailrethor the part where i turn into bruce willis and fight an army of AI Killing machines all ripped from  the pages of Sports illusrtated swim suit issues...
10:17.25AlphA_VsTlol
10:17.34SoulTaker916_lol
10:17.39SoulTaker916_ok fryingpan
10:17.50SoulTaker916_i need to figure out what to do with players that lose
10:17.57AlphA_VsTWTF
10:18.02SoulTaker916_i need them to still operate in a very limited compasity
10:18.57flyingspatulanot sure what a compasity is
10:18.58AlphA_VsT:D
10:19.20SoulTaker916_means they cant do much
10:19.28SoulTaker916_but they do somthing useful
10:19.31flyingspatulainteresting
10:19.46SoulTaker916_so i have the hero unit
10:19.50SoulTaker916_and when it dies
10:20.15SoulTaker916_ill turn the base over to the enemey and let the players flip out as theres a massive whole in the defense
10:20.22SoulTaker916_but the player thats dead
10:20.28SoulTaker916_want him to do somthing still
10:20.32AlphA_VsTFCUK ME
10:20.35flyingspatulasry dictionary didnt find compasity
10:20.39Vailrethmake it like those bomber man games where the defeated bombermen can sit on the edge and lob bombs in
10:20.42AlphA_VsTFUCK ME AND USING THE WRONG FUCKING CONDITIONS!
10:20.44AlphA_VsTGAH!
10:20.53SoulTaker916_dude its like
10:20.54SoulTaker916_2 am
10:20.56SoulTaker916_chill
10:20.57SoulTaker916_out
10:20.58flyingspatulalol
10:20.58Vailrethcapacity maybe?
10:21.08SoulTaker916_ya
10:21.09SoulTaker916_that
10:21.09AlphA_VsTi'm jsut sick of running into issues
10:21.14SoulTaker916_i cant spell
10:21.18AlphA_VsT:P
10:21.18SoulTaker916_so i just wing it
10:21.28SoulTaker916_im not even a foriener or anything
10:21.37SoulTaker916_just suck at spelling
10:21.42SoulTaker916_and im in college
10:21.47SoulTaker916_and i passed all my english courses
10:21.52SoulTaker916_so no more english for me
10:21.58Vailrethi know i was the same way..
10:22.04SoulTaker916_BAD SPELLING AND FRAMENTED SENTENCES ALL DAY LONG
10:22.05Vailrethand i cant spell well often
10:22.12flyingspatulafragmented*
10:22.19SoulTaker916_fuck off
10:22.22flyingspatulalol
10:22.28SoulTaker916_dont draw attenchion to my speach impediment
10:22.30SoulTaker916_:P
10:23.24AlphA_VsTlol
10:23.30AlphA_VsTHUGS!
10:23.40SoulTaker916_hell ya BRO HUGS!
10:23.43SoulTaker916_(hugs back*
10:23.48AlphA_VsTI have horrible typing abilities :D
10:24.05SoulTaker916_we all do
10:24.09SoulTaker916_its called programming
10:24.28AlphA_VsTI'm a tid bot dyslexic in that i type things backwards often
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10:24.59AlphA_VsTsometimes i spell whole words backwards :D mostly its a few letters though
10:25.08SoulTaker916_naw
10:25.13SoulTaker916_i just sound it out
10:25.16SoulTaker916_and fuck up
10:25.22SoulTaker916_and when im especialy tired
10:25.25SoulTaker916_i careless
10:25.26SoulTaker916_:P
10:25.30SoulTaker916_like now
10:25.37SoulTaker916_but dude
10:25.39SoulTaker916_im soo with u
10:25.44SoulTaker916_we all need to get drunk
10:29.25Vailrethwell im out going to try to get back to sleep
10:31.03SoulTaker916_well im off 2 bed also
10:34.51AlphA_VsTlol
10:38.42AlphA_VsTwell
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10:49.06AlphA_VsTgod i have improved this game a lot :D
10:49.52AlphA_VsTi ahve a good 200+  units on the map and its not even lagging really
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10:53.25AlphA_VsT:D
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11:07.33AlphA_VsTanyone
11:07.34AlphA_VsTno?
11:07.36AlphA_VsTfine :p
11:07.41AlphA_VsTgo back to work then :p
11:26.37AlphA_VsTyay zombies will try to take poitns it knows
11:26.42AlphA_VsTworking better not 100%
12:19.35AlphA_VsT:D
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12:42.16AlphA_VsT:D
12:56.09AlphA_VsTawwww fuck i think i have that old bug :(
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13:30.50AlphA_VsTwtf
13:35.19AlphA_VsTZombie Data.ZombieHiveAtPoint[Location] != Any Unit
13:35.23AlphA_VsTwhy wont you work :(
13:36.10A1winuse == No Unit
13:36.29A1winI never use Any Unit, I have no idea how it's supposed to work
13:36.33A1winand it usually doesn't
13:37.09A1winI have a feeling it might only be used for events, or something like that
13:37.45A1winmm now that I think of it, it makes sense...
13:38.00A1winyou can't use it in comparison because "Any Unit" is not an actual object
13:38.20AlphA_VsTive tried both
13:38.41A1winmm then there's something else wrong as well ;p
13:38.49AlphA_VsT== no unit never lets my thing spawn
13:39.10A1winare you sure it's that comparison that fails the thing, and not something else?
13:39.31AlphA_VsTpretty sure
13:39.35AlphA_VsTi mean idono
13:39.51AlphA_VsTits the only thing i need to change to make it work :p
13:39.51A1winthen the unit is not "no unit" but it has a value defined for it
13:40.12A1wincheck where you use the variable o:
13:40.13AlphA_VsTif i unit dies is it still considered a unit?
13:40.16`Nardival"Any Unit" is a Preset. And It selects any unit at random from the entire Data>Units Catalogue.
13:40.33AlphA_VsTat random? EWWW
13:40.36A1win:x
13:41.00A1winI'm not sure if a dead unit that's past its death time is still considered a unit
13:41.09A1winprobably not
13:41.28AlphA_VsTwhere is death time?
13:41.38A1winit's default to 0, in the unit's data
13:41.41`NardivalUnits are considered units until their death time has expired, at which point they are removed.
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13:42.12A1winif you catch event Unit Dies, then the unit isn't yet removed during that tick
13:42.27A1winand unit == no unit returns false
13:43.25`NardivalA unit dying is only it's hitpoints reaching 0 or less. It is then flagged as dead, and remains in game until it's death time expires.
13:43.46`NardivalWhich is default at 0.
13:43.52AlphA_VsTso i switched it to
13:43.54AlphA_VsTno unit
13:43.57A1winit remains in game during the game tick when it dies
13:43.59AlphA_VsTand still yeah not working
13:44.08`NardivalAlpha, what are you trying to do?
13:44.19A1winwe can't help you if you only paste one row of your trigger
13:44.33AlphA_VsTstart a timer to respawn the hives :p
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13:44.55AlphA_VsT<PROTECTED>
13:44.57`NardivalEugh, use pastebin or peeeq.de
13:44.58AlphA_VsT<PROTECTED>
13:45.00A1win>_>
13:45.00AlphA_VsTops :D
13:45.04AlphA_VsTfuck that
13:45.07AlphA_VsTim lazy right now
13:45.18A1winas are we
13:45.28`NardivalGo look at a tutorial your problem is simple and basic and you've made me lazy.
13:46.10AlphA_VsTit is simple and its not working I think I know how to fix it if it was really that simple though
13:46.19AlphA_VsTI have tired various things 0.o
13:46.28A1winuse more debug messages
13:46.44A1winlike if it fails to == no unit check, print the name of the unit
13:46.52AlphA_VsTi do
13:47.01AlphA_VsTit prints the unit
13:47.17A1winwhich means it's still in the game during that check
13:47.36A1winwhat initiates that script?
13:47.36AlphA_VsTit stops when the unit is dead
13:47.50AlphA_VsTmy main thread
13:48.11A1winI mean what event
13:48.22A1winthat doesn't tell me much, I have no idea what's in your main thread ;p
13:48.48AlphA_VsThttp://pastebin.com/AGuE4WxW
13:48.49AlphA_VsT:D
13:48.53AlphA_VsTfuck me
13:49.03A1win<.<
13:49.08AlphA_VsThttp://pastebin.com/4C5ZHaME
13:49.09AlphA_VsTthere
13:49.16AlphA_VsTforgot to copy as text :D
13:50.25A1winx_X that's a weird thread
13:50.35AlphA_VsThaha why?
13:50.53A1winwhy does it recall itself instead of just continuing the loop?
13:51.11A1winand seems odd to check all that every engine tick
13:51.18AlphA_VsTbecasue it acts as a 2nd timer?
13:52.45AlphA_VsTi could probably kick it up a bit but really it doesn't hurt the performance of the game...
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13:53.32AlphA_VsTbut back to the ==no unit not working issue :P
13:54.31AlphA_VsThttp://pastebin.com/saa7dwB7 that's the whole function 0.o
13:54.57A1winhaha I just realized something stupid... why the hell do people bury their dead instead of burning them in fantasy worlds where necromancy exists
13:56.53AlphA_VsT?
13:57.33A1winif they know that necromancy exists, why would they bury the bodies instead of burning them
13:57.57AlphA_VsTIdono... because the writer are fucking stupid?
13:58.22AlphA_VsTdeath time on the unit is 0...
13:58.28AlphA_VsTso idono
13:58.36A1winyou're probably setting the unit to something before you check it
13:58.48A1winor something
13:58.54A1winyour triggers seem overly complicated
13:59.07AlphA_VsThaha sadly they are not :(
13:59.20AlphA_VsTive made them as simple as possible
13:59.28A1winI mean they are not clear
14:00.01AlphA_VsTthe only time i set that value is when i create a new unit
14:00.07A1winI don't like trying to make sense of someone else's code :P
14:00.21AlphA_VsTwhich is at the start of the game and any time they are created :9
14:00.27AlphA_VsTYeah I don't either
14:00.57AlphA_VsTI don't like trying to understand this code lol
14:01.18AlphA_VsTsometimes I'm liek wtf is even happening here
14:01.24A1win;p
14:01.32A1winyeah it might help if you understand your own code :P
14:01.42AlphA_VsTOh i do
14:01.53AlphA_VsT:P jsut not all the ti me :P
14:02.14A1wincomments help ;p
14:02.19A1win(good comments, that is)
14:02.21A1winor good memory
14:02.22AlphA_VsTi use lots of comments :D
14:02.37AlphA_VsTwell enough
14:03.18AlphA_VsTlike i can fully understand this with those comemnts... http://pastebin.com/RnDwie6g
14:03.52AlphA_VsT:D
14:04.36AlphA_VsTdont even try...
14:10.01AlphA_VsTreally need to figguer this out haha
14:10.27AlphA_VsTits a major exploitable issue :p
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14:33.57AlphA_VsTFUCK YOU NO UNIT!
14:35.11A1winyou're looking at the wrong place
14:45.03AlphA_VsTI think i might be but im sure im not :P
14:45.18AlphA_VsTim doign soemthing else now
15:07.04AlphA_VsTimproved my color converter works a lot better :D
15:07.30AlphA_VsTnwo it slowly fades back to the color it used to be if you leave...
15:07.53AlphA_VsTand picks back up if you go back on it from that spot
15:09.53AlphA_VsTso sexy like
15:16.25AlphA_VsTanyways...
15:17.06AlphA_VsTShits gettin bloody up in here
15:22.29AlphA_VsTFUCK YEAH IT IS!
15:26.45AlphA_VsTBLOOD!!!!!!! http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-03-10%20at%207.25.42%20AM.png
15:26.48AlphA_VsTYAY!
15:30.05AlphA_VsTI'm cheating and I cant even win :(
15:31.21AlphA_VsTneed break :D
15:31.31AlphA_VsTgame is almost ready for alpha release :D
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15:43.07AlphA_VsT:D
15:46.59`NardivalLooks like you've just destroyed any visual appeal that SC2 had :p
15:57.35AlphA_VsTWTF?
15:57.42AlphA_VsTITS AWESOME!
15:58.13AlphA_VsTi need to redo some textures :P
16:02.24`NardivalIf... by Textures you mean scans of crude drawings on squared paper, then yeah, you need to redo a lot of them. Maybe even make them into textures...
16:02.26`Nardival:p
16:05.10AlphA_VsTwhat do you mean by that? haha
16:05.24AlphA_VsThow do you make a texture into a texture?
16:05.25AlphA_VsT:D
16:18.25JademusSregHahahaha
16:18.37JademusSregThis morning is off to an amusing start.
16:18.56AlphA_VsTOH JADE!
16:19.15JademusSregPaper Zombie is looking good.
16:19.36AlphA_VsTits almsot back to where it was
16:20.00AlphA_VsTI have just been improving the triggers, getttign rid of lag issues
16:20.52JademusSregNice.
16:21.02AlphA_VsTYeah :D
16:22.04JademusSregI really enjoy the aesthetic.
16:22.25AlphA_VsTyeah I need to clean it up and finish off some textures still :P
16:22.51JademusSregLike an ultraviolent pen-n-paper/miniatures game.
16:23.19AlphA_VsTsomething like that haha
16:24.04AlphA_VsTkinda like a gauntlet legends game now that I think about it
16:24.09AlphA_VsTbut not quite :P
16:28.05AlphA_VsTmy zombie ai isn't completely redone, but the new Ai is really nasty.
16:28.44`NardivalDo you intend on giving the actual models textures? Or just running it with what SC2 provides?
16:28.45AlphA_VsTzombies now always remember points they have found on the map
16:29.02AlphA_VsTthey do have textures
16:29.24`NardivalThe marines yes. The hive/hatchery and hydralisks no.
16:29.33AlphA_VsTi have nto finished :D
16:30.20AlphA_VsTI have to do all the buttons and stuff also... but that will be later after I release the alpha version
16:31.24AlphA_VsTtextures are last on the list
16:31.28AlphA_VsTprobably tomorrow ish
16:31.47`NardivalHmm. If players have a choice of 0 to 1 out of 4, three times... How many unique outcomes are possible?
16:32.09AlphA_VsTwhat do u mean?
16:32.24`NardivalYou create a unit. By selecting 1 of 4 weapons, 1 of 4 equipments and 1 of 4 armours.
16:32.40AlphA_VsToh
16:32.51AlphA_VsTi thought you where asking about my map :P
16:33.02`NardivalMy maths is noob. So I assume there is a possible of 4^4^4 possible unique units, 256?
16:33.02AlphA_VsT4x3
16:33.09AlphA_VsTidono
16:33.41AlphA_VsTmaybe 4x4x4
16:34.04AlphA_VsTwhich would be 64...
16:34.07AlphA_VsTidono though
16:34.22AlphA_VsTmy math is super bad
16:34.25AlphA_VsT:D
16:36.07`NardivalWell, 4 to the power of 3 is 64, but that is assuming a player always chooses to give a weapon, an armour AND an equipment to his unit
16:36.30`NardivalIt is equally possible to give your unit just equipment and armour to make a scout, for example.
16:36.41AlphA_VsTi see
16:37.08`NardivalSo I think it'll be 4x4x4x4 = 256 total possible combinations
16:37.13`Nardivalso Replayability = 'tick'.
16:37.30AlphA_VsTno you have actually 5 options for each
16:38.21AlphA_VsTyou have the option to not pick
16:38.26AlphA_VsTso it would be 5x5x5
16:38.41AlphA_VsTbut I could be wrong
16:38.42AlphA_VsT:P
16:39.15`NardivalYeah, my maths is at basic algebra level. Probabilities I know nothing about.
16:39.24AlphA_VsTsame :D
16:39.53AlphA_VsTbut saying its 4x4x4x4 says they have 4 choices to make
16:40.08AlphA_VsTat least thats how I see it
16:40.09AlphA_VsT:P
16:40.10`NardivalEitherway, in my map you can create between 0 and 5 units, choosing from a possible 125 or 256 (depending on our maths), each turn.
16:40.40AlphA_VsTlol :D
16:40.49`Nardivalbetween 0 to 5, or 0 to 10, or 0 to 15, depending on areas controlled rather.
16:41.17`NardivalThe units are essentially all Marines, Marauders or Ghosts - with different abilities and behaviours
16:41.19AlphA_VsTsounds like it would be tedious work to seclect units
16:41.48`NardivalWell it's a Risk / Zone Control type map. So units are expendable.
16:42.12`NardivalAttacking a fortified position with 20 soldiers with grenades and 5 soldiers with pistols won't matter in the long run.
16:42.12AlphA_VsTyeah but... every round you have to create up to 15 units...
16:42.21`NardivalAttacking a fortified position with 20 soldiers with pistols will cost you heavily.
16:42.35AlphA_VsT15 units...
16:42.57`NardivalUnits remain in play after each turn.
16:43.00AlphA_VsTunless you have some way to save or pick pre defined values
16:43.08`NardivalTrust me :p... it works...
16:43.12`NardivalHere's the dialogue setup
16:43.21AlphA_VsThaving to pick 3 options 15 times...
16:43.31AlphA_VsTevery turn
16:43.36AlphA_VsTnto fun
16:44.16`NardivalI can create 15 units in under 8 seconds. It takes about 2 seconds to read a tool tip
16:45.04`NardivalEach turn lasts between 30 and 120 seconds (player voted), and there is a 15 to 30 second (again, voted) setup time for players to create there shit.
16:46.04`Nardivalhttp://screencast.com/t/8krIImPIktAZ
16:46.25JademusSreg*their
16:46.57`NardivalThanks.
16:46.59AlphA_VsTi dont want to turn on javascript
16:47.03AlphA_VsTfuck that site
16:47.09`Nardivalhttp://content.screencast.com/users/Cardinal.dsc/folders/Jing/media/0a7f0fd5-404f-492e-a0fa-c6dd3a522c39/2012-03-10_1645.png
16:47.31AlphA_VsTthat looks confusing....
16:48.06`NardivalIt's straight forward enough. I'm going to fill in the tooltips, add images, and fraps a demo once it's ready
16:48.34AlphA_VsTno idea what it is
16:48.54AlphA_VsTlooks like some fucked up game of press the button
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16:49.13AlphA_VsT0.o
16:49.22AlphA_VsTi quit out of the channel :D
16:49.37JademusSregNard, you need to fix your output.
16:50.51JademusSregThe screenshot makes me feel the heeled boot of dystopic oppression on my neck.
16:51.16AlphA_VsT?
16:52.48JademusSreg?
16:53.19AlphA_VsT?
16:55.06`NardivalYeah, for some reason my screenshots from in-game are really dark and distorted. But the game looks normal :S
16:55.21AlphA_VsTyour odd
16:55.33JademusSreg*You're
16:55.33`NardivalYou're.
16:55.44AlphA_VsTyes i did it on purpose :D
16:55.53`NardivalThe numbers on the buttons are the quantity of that equipment you have.
16:56.01`NardivalEach button is a different piece of equipment
16:56.19`NardivalVertical columns are a type of equipment (equipment, weapon, armour) from left to right
16:57.09AlphA_VsTyou said you only had 3 choices :P
16:57.23AlphA_VsT4 colums
16:57.39AlphA_VsTcolumns even
17:02.49`Nardival1 choice out of 4 options, 3 times.
17:09.45AlphA_VsTbut you have 4 rows or 4
17:20.16AlphA_VsTconfusing :D
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17:24.52JademusSregPew pew
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17:29.06AlphA_VsTPEW
17:34.18AlphA_VsThttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-03-10%20at%209.33.41%20AM.png
17:34.23AlphA_VsTSEXY TIME!
17:35.53JademusSregGo gently into that good pew, its intimate pewing a nostalgia upon your ear, the tinny chime of pewest tune abreast of your memories, a chorus of repetitious pewity that sets alight the shadows of the mind, an exuberant PEW, a jubilent PEW, an elegant PEW, a jestful PEW, and PEW, and PEW in good time.
17:37.03AlphA_VsTlol what
17:38.16JademusSregExactlyt.
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17:40.03AlphA_VsTSexy artistic blood? Mostly to not get into any trouble, with being to graphic or something and getting my whole thing taken down :D
17:40.43JademusSregSure.
17:40.55AlphA_VsTlol
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17:49.40AlphA_VsThaha im currently running the game, been stress testing it... seems to be doing good...
17:51.14AlphA_VsTmy frames have dropped to like 5 but thats from the amount of units :(
17:59.31JademusSregHah.
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18:00.04AlphA_VsTat least I think so
18:00.28AlphA_VsTneed to do it again... I put in a kill switch
18:02.53AlphA_VsTalso need to put a kill behavior on that blood :D
18:04.03AlphA_VsTso it gets removed after a while :D
18:07.24JademusSregYes.
18:08.12JademusSregAlso, give the blood actor an opacity event message, lowering the opacity over an extended period.
18:08.35JademusSregAnd make the behavior GE the period in the actor event message.
18:08.49JademusSregNice fading out effect rather than a sudden poof.
18:09.38AlphA_VsTYeah
18:09.55AlphA_VsTI was thinking about but wasnt sure how to best do it :P
18:11.30AlphA_VsTWhat do you think about the blue over the green for the players team color?
18:11.46JademusSregScreenshot?
18:12.11JademusSregIf no demonstration is available, I'll need clarification.
18:13.11AlphA_VsThttp://i55.tinypic.com/c6hee.jpg
18:13.23AlphA_VsTthats the color it used to be :P
18:13.50JademusSregDamn, I love that eerie paper marine portrait.
18:14.15AlphA_VsTand you just should of seen the blue in this one i just posted http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-03-10%20at%209.33.41%20AM.png
18:14.17AlphA_VsT:P
18:14.42JademusSregThat blue doesn't have enough contrast with the terrain.
18:15.19JademusSregElaborate on the significance of the color?
18:15.28JademusSregIt indicates what?
18:15.47AlphA_VsTthe color is so you know if you control the point or not :D
18:16.54JademusSregAlright. I'd say definitely make it blue, but make the blue more saturated.
18:17.14JademusSregThe team colors are Red and Blue, yes?
18:17.28AlphA_VsTyeah
18:18.38JademusSregRed won't stand out clearly amid all the blood, especially to a red-green color blind player.
18:19.38AlphA_VsTblood isnt on the mini map and I assume it would be obvious that you don't have a point even with lots of blood around it
18:20.00AlphA_VsTyou have to kill the hive off for starters
18:20.24AlphA_VsTBut yeah I think you are right it is to light
18:20.31JademusSregFair point, in the latter.
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18:26.00AlphA_VsThttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-03-10%20at%2010.25.17%20AM.png
18:26.04AlphA_VsTthere we go...
18:26.10JademusSregYes.
18:27.54AlphA_VsTmaybe a tad bit off but it works
18:29.43AlphA_VsTtransitions while capturing a point are a look nicer also...
18:29.54AlphA_VsTI can tell a lot more its happening hahaha
18:33.41JademusSreg=D
18:36.04AlphA_VsTStill a bit buggy but I have improved the color transition a lot
18:36.11AlphA_VsTit flickers sometimes still :(
18:37.15AlphA_VsTI think I need to wait a bit longer to turn the boolean back on or something
18:38.17AlphA_VsTI have two main issues I need to work on though
18:39.11AlphA_VsTI have a old bug where very rarely the game fails to load because it goes past the array 0.o
18:39.33JademusSregWhat's the error verbatim?
18:39.41JademusSregI assume you use the debugger.
18:40.25AlphA_VsTum... its the one about being past the end of the array
18:40.38AlphA_VsTIt rarely happens :D
18:40.39A1winplayer array is easy to go over if you try to get owner of a non-existing unit, it returns player 16
18:40.48JademusSregHaha.
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18:41.09AlphA_VsTI could restart this like 100 times and not get the error
18:41.44JademusSregA1 is probably correct.
18:41.52AlphA_VsTas I say that...
18:41.57AlphA_VsTon my 10th time
18:42.13AlphA_VsT00:00:00.00 Trigger Error in 'gt_Mapinitialization_Func': Trying to access an element past the end of an array.
18:42.17AlphA_VsT:p
18:42.21JademusSregWait, you do random generation, right?
18:42.28AlphA_VsTyeah I do
18:42.53JademusSregSo it's somewhere in there or its interacting with a trigger.
18:43.06AlphA_VsTyeah I just don't know where hahaha
18:43.15AlphA_VsTI kinda know...
18:43.18A1winuse debug messages <.<
18:43.27AlphA_VsTbecause all my points spawn
18:43.54AlphA_VsTbut the inital units don't spawn
18:44.15A1winthen add debug messages around that area, and you'll know more precisely where it stops
18:44.27AlphA_VsTYeah :P
18:44.37SoulTaker916_ALPOHA
18:44.42SoulTaker916_good morning
18:44.46SoulTaker916_!
18:44.51AlphA_VsTgetting it to happen is the issue :P
18:44.53AlphA_VsTmorning
18:52.20JademusSregbbl
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18:55.15AlphA_VsTawww
18:55.17AlphA_VsTok
18:55.27JademusSreg(I need to mop.)
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18:56.52BountyHay Guyz ><
18:58.14AlphA_VsTHI!
18:59.37AlphA_VsThow ar eyou?
18:59.50Bountygood, u
19:01.35JademusSreg(I am afk. Obviously
19:01.38JademusSreg.)
19:01.59Bountyword
19:06.32AlphA_VsTlol im ok :D
19:06.55AlphA_VsTI just  noticed I had a useless function
19:07.05AlphA_VsTwell i turned it off and it does nothing...
19:07.48AlphA_VsTbut I constantly run it even though I only check it on start of map
19:07.49AlphA_VsT0.o
19:09.29AlphA_VsTjust deleted it yaya
19:10.34BountyHmmm... gameplay video or trailer? Decisions, decisions...
19:18.03BountyWhat do you think JademusSreg? when the time comes
19:20.51AlphA_VsTa mix of both?
19:21.14Bountythink so?
19:21.24AlphA_VsTok so minimap render priority for a unit actor...
19:21.41Bountywhat about it
19:21.44AlphA_VsTdoodad is low normal is normal and mineral is high i assume
19:21.45AlphA_VsT0.o
19:22.35AlphA_VsTnot sure if they have more acceptable strings to use
19:22.54Bountythis sounds like a job for
19:22.56Bountyno me
19:22.59Bountynot*
19:23.01Bounty><
19:23.07AlphA_VsT?
19:23.17Bounty*shrug*
19:23.23AlphA_VsTI  jsut went through most of the list trying to find string to use
19:23.24AlphA_VsT:P
19:24.58AlphA_VsTcause if you put Low... well the thing don't get a rendered
19:31.55BountyI love how people are losing their minds over the rumor that the next xbox doesnt have a disc drive
19:32.05Bountyof course it doesnt
19:32.14Bounty><
19:32.28Bountyor am i the only one not surprised by this
19:33.13AlphA_VsTlol
19:33.20Bountyright?
19:33.32Bountythey cant make a next gen console that uses those shitty dvd's they use now
19:33.39Bountyand they cant use blu ray without paying sony royalties
19:33.41Bountyso
19:33.45Bountyi bet you anything
19:33.47AlphA_VsTreally?
19:33.51Bountyit will use cartridges
19:33.56Bountyim callin it now
19:34.01JademusSregBackish.
19:34.26AlphA_VsTHAHAHA
19:34.41Bountytotalbiscuit is an idiot sometimes lol
19:34.47Bountyhes sayin microsoft should use blu ray
19:34.49AlphA_VsTwell usb drives are basiclly cartridges
19:34.51Bountyyeah ok
19:34.54Bountyexactly
19:35.00Bountyi dont mean like NES cartridges
19:35.03Bountyprolly just memory cards
19:35.20Bountylike the Vita
19:35.23Bountyonly bigger lol
19:35.33Bountymakes sense imo
19:35.45AlphA_VsTif they use usb3.0 0.o
19:36.12JademusSregWhy make a distinction between a gameplay video and a trailer for a SC2 map? If a trailer -doesn't- show gameplay, we should assume the gameplay is garbage. =D
19:36.14Bountywhy are people so stupdi that they think microsoft would go full digital rofl
19:36.19JademusSregbrbish
19:36.31Bountybc a trailer is a cinematic look at the map
19:36.39Bountya gameplay video it just recorded gameplay played as is
19:36.45Bountyderp
19:37.01AlphA_VsT:D
19:37.50AlphA_VsTusb3.0 has a 125MB/s read/write
19:37.58AlphA_VsTwhich is pretty good :P
19:38.01Bountywhat is blu rays read/write?
19:38.08AlphA_VsTim not sure
19:38.17Bountythink its more/less?
19:38.46AlphA_VsTlooking for it
19:41.37AlphA_VsTidono
19:41.42Bountylol
19:41.45Bountyoh wellll
19:44.03AlphA_VsT400Mbps at 12x speed
19:44.13Bountyouch
19:44.14Bountylol
19:44.26AlphA_VsT:D
19:45.06AlphA_VsTif they used firewire though
19:45.35AlphA_VsTidono how they would do that :P
19:45.47JademusSregIf a trailer for a SC2 map doesn't show gameplay, then it's kind of useless; it's an advertisement for an unknown value. A known value like a franchise, or an unknown value that is structured around a distinct narrative, can get away with a trailer without gameplay because it's on the table, so to speak.
19:46.04Bountywhy the fuck are you still tryign to fight me on that jade
19:46.07Bountythere is a differance
19:46.11Bountyjust stop it
19:46.12Bountylol
19:46.34AlphA_VsTfirewire 800 would be the best option ever
19:46.45AlphA_VsT800MB/s
19:46.46AlphA_VsTyay
19:46.53Bountylol damn
19:47.25BountySo anyways
19:47.28BountyJademusSreg
19:47.28JademusSregI'm saying there's no reason to make a distinction for a SC2 map, because if you're advertising something not representative of the gameplay, then its meaningless fluff.
19:47.33Bountyfor KILL PHIL mode
19:47.38Bountyshould the PHIL be a PC or NPC
19:47.40Bounty><
19:47.52AlphA_VsTdepends :P
19:48.05JademusSregI figure it should be an NPC, since otherwise it would overlap too much with the Wanted mechanic.
19:48.16Bountythe wanted mechanic wouldnt be in that mode
19:48.19Bountythats for deathmatch
19:48.26JademusSregAnd making it an NPC allows you to do interesting things with it.
19:48.36Bountywell if it was PC
19:48.47Bountythe idea was if u kill said PC u take his place as the phil
19:48.57Bountyand it just goes on until time runs out and whoever has the highest score wins
19:49.00Bountyor as an NPC
19:49.05Bountywhoever kills him wins
19:49.13AlphA_VsTwait a seconds...
19:49.15AlphA_VsThmmmm
19:49.25AlphA_VsTwtf where did i get that info from 0.o
19:49.25AlphA_VsThttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_3.0
19:49.58AlphA_VsTso yeah new xbox needs to use usb 3.0 :P
19:49.59JademusSregIf it's a player, you find yourself in a cat-n-mouse dynamic, where a bad cat can ruin the game, or a good cat can snowball.
19:50.10JademusSregAs an NPC, it's a clearly defined objective.
19:50.20Bountyso just make it an NPC?
19:50.23JademusSregAnd it gives it a distinct identity.
19:50.25Bountyand u get poitns for damaging him
19:50.30Bountyand points for killing him
19:50.33JademusSregMakes no sense for someone else to become Phil.
19:50.35Bountymake sense?
19:50.38JademusSregSure.
19:50.42JademusSregThat makes sense.
19:50.54Bountythat way its not entirely dependant on last hit lol
19:50.57Bountythat would suck
19:50.57Bounty><
19:51.00JademusSregTrue.dat
19:51.12Bountyjust gotta choose the music
19:51.17Bountylol
19:51.20Bountyhmm
19:52.39Bountyhow about this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR6qvkDDBCg
19:52.49Bounty><
19:52.52JademusSregHahaha.
19:53.02JademusSregThat is a great drinking song.
19:53.07Bountylol
19:53.11JademusSregBut it would be annoying.
19:53.18Bountyyeah i figured that
19:53.27Bountyi mean the obvious choice for music is... to obvious
19:53.38BountyBattle Without Honor or Humanity
19:53.42Bountybut thats to obvious imo
19:53.47Bountyand not very creative lol
19:54.35JademusSregNeeds a rapid pace and alternates between tension and calm, more the former than the latter.
19:55.13Bountyi want it to fit the the parody aswell
19:55.54________________654
19:56.01JademusSregI thought of a song that evokes a sense of the Lucy Liu battle.
19:56.12Bountywell yeah
19:56.17Bountyjust use the song they used during it
19:56.18Bounty=P
19:56.53Bountyi already decided on the music used for the ending cinematic when the PHIL is killed and a winner is announced though
19:56.55Bountytell me what u think
19:57.48Bountyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRIE-txyA3w
19:57.53Bountythe first 28 seconds
19:58.02Bounty><
19:59.56JademusSregHahaha.
20:00.08JademusSregNaw, doesn't have the proper pace.
20:00.19Bountyits for the ending cinematic
20:00.29JademusSregAh.
20:00.30Bountywhen the phil is killed and u watch him die then it shows the winner
20:00.33Bounty><
20:00.48Bountyhaha
20:00.55Bountyu thought i was gonna use taht for the gameplay music? :)
20:00.57Bountythat would be funny
20:01.04Bountyhuge WTF moment
20:03.50JademusSreghttp://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/atomic-bonsai
20:04.06Bountyjust the name made me lol
20:04.07JademusSregThat's not the one I have in mind, I just thought it was cute.
20:04.20Bountysounds like something from dynasty warriors
20:05.09Bountythats a cool song though
20:05.43Bountyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVrGyksv2XM&feature=related
20:06.25AlphA_VsTthis made me lol http://lolclicks.net/wp-content/uploads/main/2012_02/njgFR.png
20:09.59Bountyi mean ideally i would like to use this lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFqBTSvBPAU
20:10.04Bountybut even for me
20:10.08Bountythats scary
20:10.12Bountyto use
20:10.19Bountybc its a real song lol
20:11.56AlphA_VsT:D
20:11.59AlphA_VsTyeah it is
20:12.09Bountyunless
20:12.13Bountyi can find an instrumental
20:12.15Bounty><
20:14.50Bountyi mean the song is perfect for the mode
20:14.58Bountyconsidering P.H.I.L is a robot lol
20:15.24JademusSregListen to http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/fiduspawn-go
20:15.30Bountymaybe i should just use it ? fuckin not like the map will be on page 1 lol
20:15.45Bountylol da fuck jade
20:15.49Bountyda fuck
20:15.56Bountybleep bloop
20:15.59Bountybleep bleep bloop
20:16.03JademusSregLike you said, robot.
20:16.25Bountyyeah but that just
20:16.27Bountymeh
20:16.31Bountyi like that type of music though lol
20:16.34Bountyjust not for this ><
20:16.40Bountywhat do u think jade?
20:16.46BountyWhite Zombie - More Human than Human lol
20:17.16JademusSregI think Rob Zombie would sue you.
20:17.25Bountyprolly
20:17.33JademusSregListen to http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/even-in-death
20:17.48JademusSregNot appropriate for a robot, but it has a nice build up of tension.
20:17.52Bountyalso he wouldnt sue me
20:17.58Bountyunless i was making a profit
20:18.09Bountyworst case scenario i would have to remove the song
20:18.17Bountylistening now
20:18.39Bountythis is ALOT of build up
20:18.41Bountyhaha
20:18.45Bountylike 2 minutes of build up
20:18.58JademusSregHaha, yes, but it is lovely.
20:21.02SoulTaker916_so i have a model
20:21.06SoulTaker916_for a zealot
20:21.13SoulTaker916_i imported it
20:21.23SoulTaker916_but how do i start to implement it
20:21.43AlphA_VsTholy shit balls
20:22.09SoulTaker916_u hate that also when ur balls get all shity and covered in shit
20:22.10SoulTaker916_damn
20:22.16SoulTaker916_it happens like, every time
20:22.18JademusSregI'm not familiar with any cultures that revered balls of dung.
20:22.31JademusSregBut I certainly wouldn't exclude the possibility.
20:22.39SoulTaker916_jade
20:22.42SoulTaker916_how do i import models
20:22.57JademusSregModules -> Import Manager
20:23.05A1winwasn't there that sacred bug in egypt that rolls dung balls
20:23.13AlphA_VsThttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0KTUysrwgQ&feature=player_embedded#!
20:23.21SoulTaker916_were is this models thingy?
20:23.22SoulTaker916_in data?
20:23.25AlphA_VsTat first i was like what... then i was like OMG!
20:23.26JademusSregAdd Files -> select directory -> uncheck the stuff you don't want to import.
20:23.43SoulTaker916_ya i imported the files
20:24.03JademusSregAdd a model data entry, set the asset to the file you imported.
20:26.43JademusSregThe lips are somewhat shy of perfect, but nice.
20:27.58AlphA_VsTit was a sweet touching cinematic :P
20:28.04AlphA_VsTand its render real time
20:28.16JademusSregChilling. =D
20:28.18AlphA_VsTon a ps3
20:28.36AlphA_VsTI want to play that game now :D
20:28.51AlphA_VsTI want to know what happens to her 0.o
20:29.24JademusSregAfter a production like that, I imagine they may feel pressured to continue it.
20:29.40AlphA_VsTsame people who made heavy rain
20:29.50AlphA_VsTnever played it :P
20:30.20JademusSregHopefully their next game will be more than a movie with QTEs.
20:35.39SoulTaker916_jade is there a tutorial
20:35.46SoulTaker916_to add unit models?
20:36.11AlphA_VsTcreate a new model
20:36.18SoulTaker916_i did
20:36.27AlphA_VsTset model to the model you want
20:36.28SoulTaker916_but i cant link it to the dds
20:36.31SoulTaker916_or im too stupid 2
20:36.32AlphA_VsT...
20:36.38AlphA_VsTmodels cant be dds files
20:36.44AlphA_VsTthey need to be m3 files
20:36.50AlphA_VsTdds is a texture
20:36.54SoulTaker916_ops
20:36.56SoulTaker916_i got a m3
20:36.57SoulTaker916_also
20:39.36AlphA_VsT:D
20:41.43SoulTaker916_ok
20:41.45SoulTaker916_so i got that
20:41.55SoulTaker916_but im trying to find were the textures go
20:44.47AlphA_VsTwhere did you get it from?
20:44.57SoulTaker916_forums
20:45.27AlphA_VsTdid it come with a readme?
20:45.35SoulTaker916_it sucks
20:45.53AlphA_VsTwell generrally
20:45.55AlphA_VsTits
20:45.56SoulTaker916_Long-story short.  Import the DDS to Assets\Textures  I am not sure, but i believe you have to put the model in a unit folder. Not really sure like i said.  If you move the model after importing it, it won't show up in the editor until you either re-import it or restart the editor.
20:46.04AlphA_VsTAssets/Textures
20:46.23SoulTaker916_ya but were do i go to attach that to the model
20:46.27SoulTaker916_i think i imported it?
20:46.41AlphA_VsTits set in the m3 file
20:46.48AlphA_VsTto a specific path
20:46.59AlphA_VsTthats why you need to put it in Assets\Textures
20:47.00SoulTaker916_how do i edit the m3 file?
20:47.07SoulTaker916_is there a tab in data for it?
20:47.16SoulTaker916_oh
20:47.18SoulTaker916_but
20:47.25SoulTaker916_in import i have no way to do that?
20:47.40AlphA_VsTyour overthinking it
20:48.09AlphA_VsTby importing the dds files into Assets?Textures you are setting the path up
20:48.36AlphA_VsTyou will have to clear the cache probably for the texture to show up
20:48.46AlphA_VsTso you have to close out the map and reopen it
20:50.30SoulTaker916_ok for the import
20:50.39SoulTaker916_i selected the dds and put the location to 01 Assets\Textures01
20:50.43SoulTaker916_but its still not working
20:50.51SoulTaker916_and it threw it all into a folder
20:50.55SoulTaker916_let me dick with it i guess
20:51.05AlphA_VsTnot that complicated
20:51.36AlphA_VsTm3 file can go any fucking place you want...
20:51.39SoulTaker916_i  nsure its not
20:51.45SoulTaker916_ya i got it
20:51.49AlphA_VsTimport the textures to Assets/Textures
20:51.52SoulTaker916_and i attached it to a model
20:51.52AlphA_VsTSAve
20:51.55AlphA_VsTand exit map
20:51.58AlphA_VsTreopen map
20:51.59SoulTaker916_and put the model on a zealot copy
20:52.19SoulTaker916_then i highlighted the dds
20:52.25SoulTaker916_and moved them to a new path
20:52.25AlphA_VsTset the file on a model to the model you imported
20:52.26SoulTaker916_01 Assets\Textures01
20:52.58SoulTaker916_i did i get models with no techture
20:53.01SoulTaker916_but the correct model
20:53.24AlphA_VsTbecause you didnt clear the cache
20:53.38AlphA_VsThow hard is that to understand?
20:53.40SoulTaker916_i just completly closed
20:53.42SoulTaker916_the game
20:53.44SoulTaker916_i mean
20:53.45SoulTaker916_editor
20:53.49SoulTaker916_and im reloading the map
20:53.56SoulTaker916_still
20:54.02SoulTaker916_got textureless zealots
20:55.17AlphA_VsTlink to the forum where you go it?
20:55.26SoulTaker916_h/o
20:56.21SoulTaker916_http://www.mediafire.com/?297tnak2uk6klvs
20:56.55AlphA_VsTi didnt say link to the file
20:57.06AlphA_VsT:D
20:59.29SoulTaker916_well i wanted to show u that 2
21:00.31SoulTaker916_http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/larger-zealot-blades/
21:02.34AlphA_VsThttp://dump.e-studios.eu/sc2/zealotinstall.jpg
21:02.37AlphA_VsTthere you go
21:02.39AlphA_VsTdo that
21:02.44AlphA_VsTshoudl work
21:02.56AlphA_VsTrestart after save of course
21:03.13AlphA_VsTreally jsut takes a bit of reading 0.o
21:03.36SoulTaker916_ah...
21:08.05AlphA_VsTyeah
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21:42.23BountyCare to see what the default weapon of the P.H.I.L is JademusSreg? :)
21:42.46JademusSregScreenshot?
21:42.54Bountyfine
21:42.55Bountylol
21:44.29Bountyhttp://i40.tinypic.com/x6a2c1.jpg
21:44.46Bounty><
21:44.52JademusSregAdorable. <3
21:45.31Bountyand if u run into him u die
21:45.34Bountyfor obvious reasons
21:45.39Bountyno collision with him lol
21:45.41Bountyjust run over
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22:51.40Reavanyone have any idea how to hold or turn a units facing direction when u use an Apply Force effect
22:52.40BountyJademusSreg
22:52.49BountyI require you for a test
22:53.08JademusSregSorry, Bounty, busy.
22:53.23JademusSregI should be available in an hour, though.
23:00.51Bountyok
23:09.34AlphA_VsTi hate banks :D
23:09.47Bountylol
23:13.57AlphA_VsTits nto saving :(
23:14.07AlphA_VsTprobably something stupid
23:15.09Bountyr u on US Alpha
23:16.59AlphA_VsTyeah
23:17.10AlphA_VsTbuesy with bank
23:17.39Bountyi only need someone for like 10 seconds though =P
23:23.58AlphA_VsTNO!
23:31.47AlphA_VsTsigh this bank is not working correctly
23:35.19AlphA_VsTthe bank data wont update unless i save and exit
23:35.26AlphA_VsTnow idea wtf is wrong
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