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| 00:15.23 | Mexa | Jademus, can I use you for feedback? |
| 00:16.20 | JademusSreg | What's up? |
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| 00:17.29 | Bounty | JademusSreg... we need to gather 14 people lol |
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| 00:19.41 | JademusSreg | I'm a tad busy. And I also wanted to lecture you on the importance of qualitative variation. |
| 00:19.46 | JademusSreg | So, hold on. =D |
| 00:19.50 | Bounty | dude |
| 00:19.54 | Bounty | i dont even know what the fuck those words mean |
| 00:20.08 | Bounty | also |
| 00:20.15 | Bounty | the civillian cars that give u health are in |
| 00:20.49 | JademusSreg | Cool. |
| 00:21.12 | Bounty | its like watching a person try to catch a chicken |
| 00:21.16 | JademusSreg | Let me explain, while I juggle these flaming chainsaws dripping with bird-flu. |
| 00:21.21 | Bounty | 4 of them on the map, and they are the fastest thing in the game lol |
| 00:23.07 | JademusSreg | Quantitative variation means that a given set of options varies only by their quantities. A is faster than B, B deals more damage than A, A has 10 more Blowjob Points than B, whatever. |
| 00:23.50 | Bounty | ok but i dont undersdtand what this has to do with me |
| 00:23.51 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:24.27 | ________________ | he's saying you'd better catch those chainsaws before they land on you. |
| 00:24.34 | JademusSreg | Qualitative variation means that a set of options varies by qualities. A can jump and B can't, B can burrow and A can't, A shoots in a cone and B deals damage radially around itself. |
| 00:24.51 | Bounty | Jade |
| 00:24.55 | Bounty | what the fuck does this have to do with me |
| 00:24.57 | Bounty | at all |
| 00:24.59 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:25.11 | JademusSreg | Good design employs a combination of quantitative and qualitative variation. |
| 00:25.21 | JademusSreg | Something your vehicle options obviously lack. |
| 00:25.31 | ________________ | ie. you're a bad mapper |
| 00:25.37 | JademusSreg | By which I mean, they lack qualitative variation. |
| 00:25.43 | Bounty | but thats the point of the entire map and its what people are saying they like most about it |
| 00:25.45 | Bounty | its simple |
| 00:26.01 | JademusSreg | Those people are idiots. |
| 00:26.09 | ________________ | most are |
| 00:26.10 | Bounty | the more complrex you make a map the mroe chance you have of being doomed |
| 00:26.14 | Bounty | thats the fucking point |
| 00:26.17 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:26.24 | Bounty | i know they are idiots |
| 00:26.32 | Bounty | but they will play it |
| 00:26.35 | Bounty | and thats the point |
| 00:26.46 | ________________ | you are mapping to reach page one, jades maps to make good maps |
| 00:26.56 | Bounty | jade has made one map |
| 00:26.59 | ________________ | you make things for others to enjoy, jade makes things he will enjoy |
| 00:27.17 | Bounty | not sure how you came up with that but ok |
| 00:27.26 | Bounty | the goal from day 1 for this map was for it to be hectic and simple |
| 00:27.28 | Bounty | period |
| 00:27.33 | Bounty | i enjoy it |
| 00:27.40 | JademusSreg | If you only give players quantitative variation, they can determine the optimal choice under a general set of circumstances with a little bit of arithmetic, and use that best choice, making the other options extraneous design fluff. |
| 00:27.41 | ________________ | but you didnt make it for you |
| 00:27.45 | Bounty | um |
| 00:27.46 | Bounty | yes i did |
| 00:27.54 | ________________ | then y dumb it down so much? |
| 00:27.57 | Bounty | didnt know people could read minds |
| 00:28.03 | Bounty | bc its fun? |
| 00:28.11 | ________________ | k sec |
| 00:28.22 | Bounty | if ppl want more complex gameplay they can play one of my other maps lol |
| 00:28.24 | ________________ | [16:26] <JademusSreg> Those people are idiots. [16:26] <________________> most are [16:26] <Bounty> the more complrex you make a map the mroe chance you have of being doomed [16:26] <Bounty> thats the fucking point |
| 00:28.31 | JademusSreg | So, each vehicle ought to have a distinct qualities, in addition to their difference of quantity. |
| 00:28.37 | ________________ | You made the map for idiots, so you are either calling yourself an idiot, or lying right now |
| 00:28.53 | ________________ | but anyways, i should be studying |
| 00:28.58 | ________________ | pretend i never said nething |
| 00:29.02 | Bounty | was about to say, im not fighting this |
| 00:29.03 | JademusSreg | And that's the abridged version of my lecture. =D |
| 00:29.04 | JademusSreg | brb |
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| 00:36.41 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 00:38.37 | Taintedwisp | Welcome back |
| 00:42.11 | Taintedwisp | Wow im such a half assed mapper lol |
| 00:42.26 | Taintedwisp | instead of finding the actual problem i just make a new sound and work around it lol |
| 00:42.33 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 00:43.24 | Taintedwisp | Switching MP3s to Oggs, lol such a headache |
| 00:43.44 | Taintedwisp | Well least i got rid of those crap MP3s |
| 00:44.04 | Taintedwisp | Map size went from 15MBs to 7.3 Mbs |
| 00:44.09 | Taintedwisp | Not too bad |
| 00:44.18 | ________________ | wow |
| 00:44.22 | ________________ | huge jump |
| 00:52.29 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 00:53.31 | AlphA_VsT | <3 Audacity |
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| 00:57.00 | JademusSreg | I use Audition. |
| 01:05.01 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 01:09.01 | JademusSreg | Once I complete prototyping this AI, I might consider using it a fully-playable demo map. |
| 01:09.38 | *** part/#sc2mapster Mexa (504ed854@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.78.216.84) |
| 01:09.57 | Taintedwisp | Okay then, I need Warcraft models with Chopping animations and attacking animations for Warcraft 2 Units, Would it be easier to get them from WoW or from Warcraft 3? i need about 36 of these? |
| 01:10.08 | JademusSreg | WoW. |
| 01:10.19 | ________________ | wat's auditions advantage over audacity? |
| 01:10.48 | JademusSreg | The advantage is that I have audition, and don't have audacity. |
| 01:10.58 | ________________ | gotcha |
| 01:11.09 | Taintedwisp | Now would the WoW models still have the Harvesting animation for The Peasants and Peons? |
| 01:11.33 | AlphA_VsT | they do |
| 01:11.41 | AlphA_VsT | because they harvest in game |
| 01:11.57 | JademusSreg | I've seen such NPCs chopping wood and hammering and shit, so yes, I assume there are a number of NPC models with those animations. |
| 01:12.24 | AlphA_VsT | I wish wow was more like a rts :D |
| 01:12.35 | AlphA_VsT | it would be mo fun |
| 01:12.38 | Taintedwisp | WoW is boreing to me |
| 01:12.44 | Taintedwisp | I hit level 85 then quit... |
| 01:12.48 | Taintedwisp | I hate raids. |
| 01:12.49 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 01:13.01 | Taintedwisp | But the models are good |
| 01:13.24 | JademusSreg | I wish WoW wasn't a padded bullet-proof bicycle with training wheels. |
| 01:13.36 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 01:14.02 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 01:15.21 | Taintedwisp | I made a prot warrior, only decent geat, blues and purples, and we 5 manned KZ and I tanked at level 69, It was retarted, PLUS the same build / items, I was top of PVP, its really not that hard to win |
| 01:19.15 | JademusSreg | The "experience everything for everyone" approach necessarily excludes player interference from the scope of player experience; insulating players from one another at once impairs both the ability for players to violate one another and the opportunity to participate in a community or culture meaingfully. Player interaction is almost entirely one of economy, because it's one of the few forms |
| 01:19.17 | JademusSreg | of interaction with consequences available. |
| 01:25.02 | JademusSreg | Consider that if actual humans were incapable of trespassing upon one another, then cultural mores prescribing conduct would not have developed, and in turn neither would have laws. "You shouldn't hit people" only makes sense if you can hit people, etiquette and the near totality of culture is dependent on the principle opportunity to trespass, to deviate, to subvert. |
| 01:25.20 | Taintedwisp | anyone else hope that they make HoTs where when you have Cataclysm Models and D3 Models dont take space on your computer? |
| 01:25.29 | Taintedwisp | I mean dont take up Map file space |
| 01:25.53 | JademusSreg | You mean dependencies with those models? That would be neat. |
| 01:26.29 | Daara | won't happen though :p |
| 01:26.32 | JademusSreg | Probably more likely they'd use them for their own maps, similar to how Left 2 Die's assets were a separate dependency. |
| 01:26.58 | Taintedwisp | yeah I know |
| 01:27.15 | JademusSreg | So maybe you'll see some D3 assets if they ever get around to releasing Stariablo. |
| 01:28.10 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 01:28.18 | Taintedwisp | Starablo? |
| 01:29.20 | JademusSreg | Yeah. It's in the patch mpqs. It has some other neat stuff in there, like Blizz Dota stuff. |
| 01:29.50 | JademusSreg | Not assets. More like trigger data, only missing all the text. |
| 01:29.59 | Taintedwisp | dang lol |
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| 01:32.52 | SoulTaker916_ | damn |
| 01:32.55 | SoulTaker916_ | who died in here? |
| 01:33.09 | Taintedwisp | i farted.... |
| 01:33.14 | Taintedwisp | awkward fart silence |
| 01:33.21 | SoulTaker916_ | ah.... |
| 01:40.56 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 01:53.28 | SoulTaker916_ | jade around |
| 01:53.29 | SoulTaker916_ | ? |
| 01:53.45 | Taintedwisp | isn't he always? |
| 01:53.47 | Taintedwisp | :D |
| 01:55.47 | SoulTaker916_ | i dont see him |
| 02:03.22 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 02:03.40 | JademusSreg | I was tucking my girls into bed. What need you? |
| 02:05.28 | Taintedwisp | Ah he has kids, no wander hes on here alot :D |
| 02:05.29 | Taintedwisp | jk man |
| 02:06.46 | Taintedwisp | Hey im doing a test, I put RPG in the description of my map, and uploaded ive noticed 3 RPGS that are sooo basic and their not even really that great(atM) shot to the top of the Pop system so imma test this |
| 02:07.07 | Taintedwisp | im going to give it 1 month published |
| 02:07.08 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 02:07.10 | Taintedwisp | as an RPG |
| 02:07.40 | Taintedwisp | Mini Chop RPG |
| 02:07.48 | Taintedwisp | Rogue popluar game = RPG |
| 02:08.22 | JademusSreg | I'm stepping out to the grocer down the road, so brb. If you have an issue, take the time to explain it as thoroughly as possible. Preferably, just type in some kind of non-stop mad beatnik poetic prose train of thought until I get back. |
| 02:09.06 | Taintedwisp | like I always do? |
| 02:20.00 | JademusSreg | No. |
| 02:28.05 | AlphA_VsT | NEVER! |
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| 02:39.26 | Sixen | JademusSreg: Thanks for looking at focke's thread... I totally forgot to link you |
| 02:39.30 | Sixen | but you went there anyway! :D |
| 02:39.36 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 02:39.44 | SoulTaker916_ | im back... |
| 02:39.46 | SoulTaker916_ | :( |
| 02:39.59 | SoulTaker916_ | i missed u guys soo very very much.. |
| 02:40.11 | JademusSreg | [12:58:06] <JademusSreg> Sixen, Focke really wants your attention: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/4138435489 |
| 02:40.11 | JademusSreg | [12:58:22] <McHearty> and if its a client update, that's not bittorrent |
| 02:40.11 | JademusSreg | [12:58:34] <JademusSreg> He's practically begging for you to penetrate him. With your attention. |
| 02:40.18 | Sixen | lol |
| 02:41.05 | JademusSreg | I thought it was an adorable misunderstanding of the purpose of those galaxy script files. |
| 02:42.01 | JademusSreg | I was just going to ignore it, but you mentioned me, and was compelled to respond. |
| 02:43.36 | JademusSreg | But yeah, basically, the answer to his first question is "no", so none of the other stuff is feasible. |
| 02:44.07 | SoulTaker916_ | so what ahve u been working on jade |
| 02:44.38 | JademusSreg | [19:21:08] <JademusSreg> Let me explain, while I juggle these flaming chainsaws dripping with bird-flu. |
| 02:44.52 | JademusSreg | Which is to say, lots of stuff. |
| 02:45.19 | SoulTaker916_ | never thought code could kil |
| 02:45.23 | SoulTaker916_ | but i guess it is u |
| 02:46.13 | JademusSreg | But in SC2 specifically, I'm lending a hand on a project and making an autonomous AI. |
| 02:46.44 | SoulTaker916_ | i looked at ai... its a nussance |
| 02:47.10 | JademusSreg | Those are two separate projects. The latter is for my own curiosity. |
| 02:48.15 | JademusSreg | I've looked at the AI API, but I'm doing more micro-oriented features and using the "natives domain |
| 02:48.20 | JademusSreg | " of the API. |
| 02:49.04 | JademusSreg | By "natives domain", I'm refering to what you can observe here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/Images/GalaxyStandardLibrary.jpg |
| 02:49.20 | SoulTaker916_ | u showed me those |
| 02:49.25 | SoulTaker916_ | when i was tinkering with ai |
| 02:50.03 | SoulTaker916_ | its alittle above me because im not wining dining and litteraly fucking and impregnating the galaxy code |
| 02:50.04 | SoulTaker916_ | :P |
| 02:50.07 | JademusSreg | Orange lines are header includes, green lines are footer includes, and the way the standard library is put together, there are two domains. |
| 02:53.58 | SoulTaker916_ | :P |
| 02:54.04 | SoulTaker916_ | i missed u jade |
| 02:54.06 | SoulTaker916_ | ^.^ |
| 02:54.18 | JademusSreg | Computer.galaxy is the end point for the AI domain, the domain that governs the melee AIs. The natives domain includes some AI-related scripts, so editor users have access to AI features, but not melee AIs themselves. =D |
| 02:54.41 | SoulTaker916_ | u should give classes |
| 02:54.46 | SoulTaker916_ | :P |
| 02:56.21 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 02:57.38 | JademusSreg | Anyway, my AI work is all about micro, but has "points of access" at the top and bottom of the priority stack, so other macro oriented AIs can interact with the system. |
| 02:58.03 | JademusSreg | I'm in the process of working out the unit positioning and kite logic. |
| 03:04.14 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 03:12.26 | SoulTaker916_ | jade u aliver? |
| 03:13.15 | JademusSreg | I don't know what that means. |
| 03:13.41 | SoulTaker916_ | alive |
| 03:13.47 | SoulTaker916_ | typo |
| 03:13.51 | SoulTaker916_ | im looking at the fuction |
| 03:13.58 | SoulTaker916_ | PlayerGroupPlayers |
| 03:14.04 | SoulTaker916_ | i notice theres a index on it or somthing |
| 03:14.15 | JademusSreg | PlayerGroupPlayer |
| 03:14.17 | SoulTaker916_ | for an interger |
| 03:14.49 | JademusSreg | Yeah. It refers to an index of the playergroup. |
| 03:15.06 | SoulTaker916_ | but i want all indexes? |
| 03:15.17 | SoulTaker916_ | do i have to loop all the indexes? |
| 03:15.18 | JademusSreg | (Most groups in the game are one-indexed, rather than zero-indexed.) |
| 03:15.24 | JademusSreg | I'll show you. |
| 03:15.48 | JademusSreg | http://pastebin.com/xaMmzQGL |
| 03:17.31 | SoulTaker916_ | soo lame... |
| 03:17.43 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 03:18.07 | SoulTaker916_ | i wasnt a true, false |
| 03:18.09 | SoulTaker916_ | boolean |
| 03:18.15 | SoulTaker916_ | if player is in playergroup |
| 03:18.18 | SoulTaker916_ | return true |
| 03:18.22 | SoulTaker916_ | ill have to make it myself |
| 03:18.59 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 03:19.08 | JademusSreg | Clarify what you need. |
| 03:19.38 | JademusSreg | native bool PlayerGroupHasPlayer (playergroup inGroup, int inPlayer); for instance. |
| 03:19.39 | SoulTaker916_ | if(triggering player is appart of unitgroup x) |
| 03:19.57 | SoulTaker916_ | ill just make a function |
| 03:19.59 | SoulTaker916_ | much easyer |
| 03:20.07 | JademusSreg | It's right there. |
| 03:20.21 | JademusSreg | PlayerGroupHasPlayer (playergroup inGroup, int inPlayer) |
| 03:20.51 | SoulTaker916_ | i dont see it in the fuction list?? |
| 03:22.17 | JademusSreg | Dunno what you mean. |
| 03:22.25 | SoulTaker916_ | im using gui |
| 03:22.28 | SoulTaker916_ | all i see in gui is |
| 03:22.29 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 03:22.38 | SoulTaker916_ | that bs one |
| 03:23.00 | JademusSreg | Well, I can't be much help there, then. |
| 03:25.46 | SoulTaker916_ | jade |
| 03:25.57 | SoulTaker916_ | i assume players have a starting index of zero? |
| 03:26.14 | SoulTaker916_ | i did |
| 03:26.15 | JademusSreg | Yeah, players are zero indexed. |
| 03:26.21 | SoulTaker916_ | kk |
| 03:26.29 | SoulTaker916_ | so then |
| 03:26.36 | JademusSreg | Player 0 defaults to Neutral, as you can see in Map -> Player Properties. |
| 03:26.37 | SoulTaker916_ | num=number of players in group |
| 03:26.50 | SoulTaker916_ | pick each int from 0 to num-1 |
| 03:26.54 | SoulTaker916_ | and check it |
| 03:31.57 | JademusSreg | Pick Each anything is bad, breaks when nested. Use For Each. |
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| 03:39.42 | Mexa | Curses |
| 03:40.05 | Mexa | Beiers editor broke my project ._. |
| 03:41.01 | SoulTaker916_ | really? |
| 03:41.08 | Mexa | Yes |
| 03:41.23 | SoulTaker916_ | i mean breaks nested |
| 03:41.24 | SoulTaker916_ | wait |
| 03:41.30 | SoulTaker916_ | u cant double nest pick each |
| 03:41.32 | SoulTaker916_ | i know that |
| 03:41.43 | Mexa | Not about that though:P |
| 03:41.57 | Mexa | I have some issues now that my project doesn't compile |
| 03:42.07 | Mexa | And it did in the patches before |
| 03:42.19 | Mexa | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/third-party-tools/19619-galaxy-editor/?page=19#p374 |
| 03:42.36 | SoulTaker916_ | teacher says to comment out code |
| 03:42.39 | SoulTaker916_ | untill it works |
| 03:42.46 | Mexa | Oh relax |
| 03:43.09 | Mexa | It's all fine and dandy, it's something he did, not me :> |
| 03:44.13 | Mexa | But still silly, that I need to write Foo.Bar if I want to access a static variable Bar in the struct Foo |
| 03:44.31 | Mexa | It makes sense if you call that outside of the struct scope, but not from the inside. |
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| 04:03.00 | artistbehindthem | Hey guys, i'm relativly new to creating maps and games for SC2. I have a question. How can I make a neutral building have an ability that is shared with everyone and the player that uses that ability uses his resources to activate said ability instead of using the buildings owners resources? |
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| 04:04.25 | JAG | anyone? |
| 04:05.03 | Mexa | Dropped dead |
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| 04:05.36 | SoulTaker916_ | lol |
| 04:05.37 | SoulTaker916_ | wow |
| 04:05.41 | SoulTaker916_ | people are mean... |
| 04:08.46 | Mexa | huh` |
| 04:08.59 | JademusSreg | Pewp ew |
| 04:09.12 | Mexa | I said dropped dead, not drop dead. |
| 04:09.55 | JademusSreg | So, JAG has an issue. |
| 04:10.00 | JAG | yes |
| 04:10.34 | JademusSreg | You're making a shop or mercenary camp, I take? |
| 04:10.55 | JAG | a shop, yes. |
| 04:11.26 | JademusSreg | Common issue with no elegant solution, but there are a number of inelegant solutions. |
| 04:11.55 | JademusSreg | For instance, giving control to the would-be shopper. |
| 04:12.00 | JAG | im guessing none are going to be simple... |
| 04:12.11 | JademusSreg | That is the simplest solution. |
| 04:12.24 | JAG | ok |
| 04:12.48 | JAG | will that spend triggering players resources? |
| 04:13.16 | JademusSreg | You're giving control of the shop unit to the owner of the unit shopping at it, so yes. |
| 04:13.53 | JAG | How would i go about doing this? |
| 04:14.48 | JademusSreg | You can use an autocast ability, or behaviors, or triggers. There's lots of ways to handle the exchange of ownership. |
| 04:15.25 | JademusSreg | You just need to decide if the ownership priority is FIFO or FILO. |
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| 04:15.38 | Bounty | JademusSreg, you there buddy ol pal? :) |
| 04:15.41 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 04:15.55 | Bounty | How would YOU like to teach me some data |
| 04:16.12 | JademusSreg | Be more specific. |
| 04:16.19 | Bounty | well |
| 04:16.23 | Bounty | i did some trigger debugging |
| 04:16.31 | Bounty | and i think i need to move the projectiles 100% to data |
| 04:16.39 | JademusSreg | I expected as much. |
| 04:16.45 | Bounty | it works but |
| 04:16.52 | Bounty | its a loss of about 10 frames per second |
| 04:16.58 | Bounty | and i would rather keep those frames |
| 04:17.04 | Bounty | also |
| 04:17.11 | Bounty | i doubled the shots fired rate |
| 04:17.14 | Bounty | and doubled damage |
| 04:17.23 | Bounty | so if ur vehicle previously shot at .1 seconds |
| 04:17.28 | Bounty | it now shoots at .2 |
| 04:17.33 | JademusSreg | Well, here's the simple version in one sentence. |
| 04:17.42 | Bounty | i wont understand it |
| 04:17.46 | Bounty | i triedl ol |
| 04:18.08 | Bounty | every "complex" thing i know about the editor has been taught to me by someone else |
| 04:18.17 | Bounty | so... batter up |
| 04:18.18 | Bounty | =P |
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| 04:19.16 | Daara | can't belive legends open rpg has 42000 hours played .... |
| 04:19.40 | Daara | if it doesn't disappear within 2 days i'm going to stop making maps |
| 04:19.50 | Daara | fucking joke that such shit can be popular |
| 04:20.12 | Bounty | Hopefully when my map takes its place it will restore your hope Daara |
| 04:20.22 | Bounty | >< |
| 04:20.35 | JademusSreg | Make a Buff behavior, give it a period of 0.0625 and you'll give it a periodic effect; the effect you'll need is a Search Area effect, give it an Area with a radius of 0.5, and you'll give the area an effect; the area's effect will be a Set effect, its first effect will apply a damage effect and the second effect will apply a suicide self damage effect. |
| 04:20.41 | Daara | seriously...i could have put something better in 2 hours |
| 04:20.49 | Daara | together* |
| 04:20.55 | Bounty | now JademusSreg |
| 04:20.59 | Bounty | if i know nothing about data |
| 04:21.05 | Bounty | and i follow what u just said step by step |
| 04:21.07 | Bounty | itll work yes? |
| 04:21.17 | JademusSreg | Naw, that's the summary. |
| 04:21.24 | Bounty | ok well let me breka it down for u |
| 04:21.25 | Bounty | like |
| 04:21.28 | Bounty | what needs to be done |
| 04:21.37 | Bounty | It needs to create the projectile periodically |
| 04:21.45 | Bounty | fire the projectiles in the facing angle of said vehicle |
| 04:21.53 | JademusSreg | This is the behavior that detects collision. |
| 04:21.57 | Bounty | and then detect when to die/blow up |
| 04:22.06 | Bounty | i know im just giving u the run down |
| 04:22.14 | JademusSreg | This is the behavior you will add to the missile unit. |
| 04:22.16 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 04:22.39 | JademusSreg | Anyway, I have an example of it in my Koprulu Factions prototype. |
| 04:22.59 | JademusSreg | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/Koprulu%20Factions%20Prototype%200.0.0.9.SC2Map |
| 04:23.00 | Bounty | how do you create a unit based on the facing of another in data? |
| 04:23.12 | JademusSreg | Ah, I'll cover that. |
| 04:24.03 | JademusSreg | I have a very large file open in the editor, one that takes several minutes to open, so I'm not going to exit that. But I can explain the process. |
| 04:24.14 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 04:24.22 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:24.43 | Bounty | just tell me now if ur not good at explaining things to people who are stupid |
| 04:24.44 | JademusSreg | The projectile source can use a behavior, with a period and periodic effect. |
| 04:24.48 | Bounty | bc thats the way i've always been taught |
| 04:26.11 | JademusSreg | Alright. I've got the XML open in an MPQ Editor from a map where I do this. |
| 04:26.14 | Mexa_ | Daara, so instead of sitting here, nagging... Do it:P!? |
| 04:26.51 | Daara | I wouldn't want to be known for making a giant turd. |
| 04:27.32 | Mexa_ | Rather than not being known at all? Fair enough. |
| 04:27.38 | Daara | Big ole heaping pile of shit like this map and pobes and zealots |
| 04:28.03 | AlphA_VsT | no no zeelots |
| 04:28.06 | AlphA_VsT | LOLOLOL |
| 04:28.28 | Mexa_ | I shouldn't say more though, that map doesn't exist in EU. |
| 04:28.29 | ________________ | 865132 |
| 04:28.53 | AlphA_VsT | only reason it got to the top... is cause it never ends |
| 04:29.09 | Daara | that seems to be the route to take |
| 04:29.12 | Daara | never ending game |
| 04:29.13 | Mexa_ | Also, what the hell happend to my sleep? I need to go already :gf |
| 04:29.22 | Mexa_ | *:f |
| 04:29.33 | ________________ | p v z never ends? |
| 04:29.48 | Daara | ends if everyone quits |
| 04:29.49 | Daara | :P |
| 04:29.52 | ________________ | so is there infinite levels? or is it like, impossible to beat? |
| 04:30.13 | Daara | just restarts |
| 04:30.15 | Daara | if zealot dies |
| 04:30.18 | ________________ | oh thats boring |
| 04:30.20 | Mexa_ | You can level up to 100 or something, and it has saving features, ofcourse people will be back playing. |
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| 04:30.26 | Bounty | r u typing a wall of text or something JademusSreg? lol |
| 04:30.44 | JademusSreg | Naw, looking over my work. |
| 04:30.49 | ________________ | WoT o.o |
| 04:31.07 | JademusSreg | Anyway, it's simple. |
| 04:31.35 | Mexa_ | Alpha, go finish PaperCraft too please .__. |
| 04:31.53 | ________________ | that sounds interesting |
| 04:31.57 | JademusSreg | Are your missiles launched by an effect or created via trigger? Are they missiles (with missile actors and the like) or units? |
| 04:31.59 | AlphA_VsT | working on soemthing else :D |
| 04:32.05 | Mexa_ | nou D: |
| 04:32.07 | Bounty | well |
| 04:32.12 | Bounty | technically they are not missiles |
| 04:32.15 | Bounty | they are probes |
| 04:32.15 | Mexa_ | You better get both your projects done then :D |
| 04:32.17 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:32.20 | AlphA_VsT | I need to completely redo all of the triggers :P |
| 04:32.24 | JademusSreg | That's fine. Just needed to know, |
| 04:34.04 | JademusSreg | Anyway, simply make a behavior, give it a period and a periodic effect, the periodic effect will be a Launch Missile effect, set the effect's offset to some distance (by which time it will have timed out or something), and set the location to source point. |
| 04:35.07 | JademusSreg | For example, an offset of 0,-20,0 will make it launch 20 cells away from the source point. |
| 04:35.22 | Bounty | yeah i know that part lol |
| 04:35.26 | JademusSreg | Alright. |
| 04:36.00 | Bounty | will this actually increase the maps framerate though? just curious |
| 04:36.16 | JademusSreg | No guarantee. Might make it exponentially worse. |
| 04:36.25 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:36.33 | Bounty | well i mean |
| 04:36.45 | Bounty | i get about 90 fps, others say they get about 100+ |
| 04:37.00 | Bounty | and as usual.. when you speak... you make me not want to do something |
| 04:37.05 | Bounty | >< |
| 04:37.06 | JademusSreg | Just implement the collision first. |
| 04:37.24 | JademusSreg | And if that doesn't fuck everything up, implement the auto-firing behavior. |
| 04:37.29 | Bounty | ok but projectiles also have to have a water effect if htye go into the water |
| 04:37.39 | Bounty | and crash into structures |
| 04:38.21 | JademusSreg | The former will be handled by your triggers for that, missiles are still units, so they will enter and die. |
| 04:38.39 | Bounty | actually its not a enter and die thing |
| 04:38.40 | JademusSreg | The latter, well, if your structures are units, problem solved. |
| 04:38.50 | Bounty | its a threaded action definition that checks the height of all units |
| 04:38.57 | Bounty | and if they enter the height that the water is at |
| 04:39.01 | Bounty | then poof |
| 04:39.07 | JademusSreg | My god. |
| 04:39.19 | JademusSreg | That's just terrible. |
| 04:39.55 | JademusSreg | That's the perfect situation to implement a Unit Enters Region trigger. |
| 04:40.04 | Bounty | yeah well |
| 04:40.10 | Bounty | the problem with those is regions suck |
| 04:40.16 | Bounty | and u cant make them exact |
| 04:41.27 | JademusSreg | Hahah, I suppose that is forgivable. But damn, that's a lot of ops wasted. Why not just iterate through the unitgroup of units in the region, and make the region larger so it doesn't need to be exact? |
| 04:41.58 | Bounty | idk, i made this shit as fast as possible lol |
| 04:42.00 | JademusSreg | It's your solution, only not applied to the entire map all the time. |
| 04:42.14 | Bounty | i mean i will never be able to know what to do next until we stress test |
| 04:42.28 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 04:42.29 | Bounty | which may never happen |
| 04:46.11 | Daara | lol |
| 04:46.15 | Daara | new fun thing to do |
| 04:46.18 | Daara | since that game is an "open rpg" |
| 04:46.30 | Daara | i'm roll playing a murderer |
| 04:46.33 | Daara | role* |
| 04:46.42 | Daara | and i go around killing the other heroes :D |
| 04:46.47 | Daara | THIS GAME CAN BE FUN! |
| 04:47.13 | AlphA_VsT | what game? |
| 04:47.23 | Daara | look at the new #1 map' |
| 04:47.28 | Daara | play it for 5 minutes |
| 04:47.29 | AlphA_VsT | oh yeah that map |
| 04:47.40 | AlphA_VsT | last boss is almost impossible to beat |
| 04:47.44 | AlphA_VsT | 15000 armor |
| 04:47.50 | Daara | nah i beat it |
| 04:47.50 | AlphA_VsT | 0.o |
| 04:47.53 | AlphA_VsT | 100000 life |
| 04:47.59 | AlphA_VsT | yeah it took like an hour to kill it |
| 04:48.06 | Daara | yep |
| 04:48.12 | AlphA_VsT | and never playing it again |
| 04:49.00 | AlphA_VsT | an by an hour I mean of attacking the boss just in it self :D |
| 04:49.24 | AlphA_VsT | I had like 5 million gold at the end of it |
| 04:49.28 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 04:49.36 | AlphA_VsT | thankfully i was doing other shit |
| 04:50.00 | JademusSreg | Anyway, making a region that covers the water areas, and it doesn't need to be precise so it can overlap with land a bit, and only checking units in that area will reduce the number of ops wasted checking units no where near it. |
| 04:52.34 | Daara | i found a way to have fun in it alpha |
| 04:52.37 | Daara | join new games |
| 04:52.38 | Daara | kill players |
| 04:52.45 | Daara | say you're role playing a murderer |
| 04:56.13 | AlphA_VsT | lolol |
| 04:56.22 | AlphA_VsT | i didnt know you could attack players :D |
| 04:56.43 | AlphA_VsT | what stats do you keep? |
| 04:57.55 | Mexa_ | That's lame, Daara |
| 04:58.42 | Mexa_ | It reminds me of the idiot who was hosting Photon Cycles only to stay in the lobby, never start the game, start the game occasionally and always leave immediately. |
| 04:59.05 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 04:59.06 | AlphA_VsT | wtf |
| 04:59.31 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 05:00.24 | JademusSreg | He is an EU player named Schnitzel, and I have his player handle, in case I should have need to ban him. |
| 05:00.40 | Mexa_ | Yeah well, he seems to have moved on |
| 05:01.02 | Mexa_ | But I think he got a temporary suspension from battle.net for it |
| 05:01.05 | JademusSreg | Funny how you can get a player handle from a battlenet profile url. |
| 05:01.12 | Mexa_ | Either that, or he had a long vacation |
| 05:01.28 | Mexa_ | Ah yeah:P |
| 05:02.11 | Mexa_ | lolwhat? http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/393783/1/Schnitzel/matches |
| 05:02.23 | Mexa_ | Oh never mind |
| 05:02.27 | Mexa_ | It worked now :o |
| 05:02.40 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 05:02.43 | Mexa_ | It told me "I SWALLOWED A BUG. We seem to be having a little problem with our website, so we may experience some slight turbulence and then – explode. Error ID: 4TXB7" |
| 05:02.52 | Daara | hmm |
| 05:02.54 | Daara | mexa |
| 05:02.57 | Daara | i was playing phantom mode |
| 05:03.03 | Daara | or role playing that i was phantom |
| 05:03.08 | Daara | is that better? |
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| 05:03.32 | Mexa_ | So you didn't abuse friendly fire or attacking friendly units? |
| 05:03.42 | JademusSreg | Hey Mexa, can you do some number checking for me? It shouldn't take long. |
| 05:03.54 | Mexa_ | Suresure |
| 05:04.02 | Daara | no i did |
| 05:04.06 | Daara | i just said i was phantom |
| 05:04.27 | JademusSreg | Make a 256*256 map, and tell me the size in bits of all the texture related data. |
| 05:04.30 | Mexa_ | Yeah, but is that included as a game mechnism? |
| 05:04.40 | Daara | it's an open role playing game |
| 05:04.43 | Daara | so ...yes? |
| 05:04.46 | Mexa_ | Hm |
| 05:04.51 | Mexa_ | Fine then |
| 05:05.14 | Mexa_ | I guess. |
| 05:05.32 | JademusSreg | I would, but my editor is, uh, full at the moment. |
| 05:05.43 | Mexa_ | Jademus, what texture data? |
| 05:05.45 | Bounty | WTB 14 testers |
| 05:05.46 | Mexa_ | t3? |
| 05:06.23 | JademusSreg | Any of the data related to terrain, especially textures, that correlates to map dimensions. |
| 05:06.57 | Mexa_ | And the size in bits? Not bytes? |
| 05:07.32 | JademusSreg | Yeah. Preferably bits, for precision's sake, but it's not necessary. |
| 05:08.22 | Mexa_ | Then I suppose you're after t3TextureMasks, which is 16Â 777Â 280 bytes |
| 05:08.27 | Mexa_ | roughly 16MB |
| 05:08.38 | JademusSreg | Is that one file? |
| 05:08.41 | Mexa_ | yes |
| 05:09.02 | Mexa_ | But it's not compressed |
| 05:09.21 | JademusSreg | Hm. What's the compressed size, in the map? |
| 05:09.24 | Mexa_ | I mean, it's to be expected. A texture mask is gigantic |
| 05:09.45 | Mexa_ | The texture mask is 2048x2048 or something. |
| 05:10.09 | JademusSreg | I mean, what's the size when compressed? |
| 05:11.52 | Mexa_ | 197kb |
| 05:12.02 | AlphA_VsT | http://www.vice.com/the-vice-guide-to-film/north-korean-film-madness-1 |
| 05:12.04 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 05:12.09 | AlphA_VsT | fucking north korea |
| 05:12.17 | JademusSreg | That's just- that's can't be right. |
| 05:12.38 | Mexa_ | LZMA compression |
| 05:12.42 | Mexa_ | yes? |
| 05:12.45 | JademusSreg | My flabber is being ghasted. |
| 05:12.51 | ________________ | lol |
| 05:13.23 | JademusSreg | Thanks, Mexa. |
| 05:13.32 | Mexa_ | Oh yes, Alpha, did you see their guide to north korea? |
| 05:13.36 | Mexa_ | np |
| 05:14.13 | Mexa_ | Or maybe that's the same one |
| 05:14.28 | Mexa_ | If their in NK filming different places and talk |
| 05:15.40 | Mexa_ | Ah, this one: http://www.vice.com/the-vice-guide-to-travel/vice-guide-to-north-korea-1-of-3 |
| 05:16.05 | Mexa_ | Quite interesting. |
| 05:16.38 | AlphA_VsT | yeah they are trying to see the film studio |
| 05:16.40 | AlphA_VsT | hahaha |
| 05:17.09 | AlphA_VsT | learned a lot |
| 05:17.23 | Mexa_ | mm |
| 05:17.30 | Mexa_ | Oh well, back to bed |
| 05:17.36 | Mexa_ | Need to get up soon :D |
| 05:17.44 | AlphA_VsT | just remember if you want to get into NK takes a lot of nagging and playing along |
| 05:17.50 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 05:18.03 | AlphA_VsT | oh and everyone is a secret police |
| 05:18.10 | Mexa_ | :p |
| 05:18.56 | Mexa_ | And everyone will dine up their entire dining restaurant rooms when you the tourist come, only to throw it all away later, since it's all a fake |
| 05:20.00 | AlphA_VsT | fucking crazy |
| 05:21.15 | Daara | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T7ihdsjIqhI |
| 05:21.17 | Daara | WHAT |
| 05:21.18 | Daara | THE |
| 05:21.19 | Daara | FUCk |
| 05:21.40 | Daara | those aren't dolls fyi |
| 05:26.12 | AlphA_VsT | ... |
| 05:27.05 | AlphA_VsT | WTF |
| 05:27.27 | Daara | yea...seriously... |
| 05:28.04 | AlphA_VsT | HOLY FUCK |
| 05:28.14 | AlphA_VsT | seriously... |
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| 05:30.28 | AlphA_VsT | um how is that healthy |
| 05:30.34 | AlphA_VsT | shaking a baby is bad |
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| 05:31.06 | AlphA_VsT | FUCKING FUCk |
| 05:33.04 | JademusSreg | http://www.dadwagon.com/2011/03/02/russian-tv-reduces-baby-yogas-lena-fokina-to-tears/ |
| 05:33.44 | JademusSreg | I've not watched the videos, but perhaps this will help you. |
| 05:36.33 | AlphA_VsT | :P |
| 05:42.11 | AlphA_VsT | fucking sick woman |
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| 06:45.26 | SoulTaker916_ | -is there anyway to edit my map |
| 06:45.33 | SoulTaker916_ | if i dont have the original file |
| 06:46.32 | JademusSreg | Find a tool to compile it from the program data? |
| 06:47.00 | SoulTaker916_ | well ehres the story |
| 06:47.03 | SoulTaker916_ | police hate me |
| 06:47.07 | SoulTaker916_ | and took my computer |
| 06:47.12 | SoulTaker916_ | and i need to get my map |
| 06:47.15 | SoulTaker916_ | and play it |
| 06:47.19 | SoulTaker916_ | and edit it |
| 06:48.39 | Kueken | so you have uploaded your map to bnet and want to recover it? |
| 06:50.24 | *** join/#sc2mapster Bibendus (~Bibendus@ip-80-249-36-63.static.adsl.cheapnet.it) |
| 06:59.19 | SoulTaker916_ | yes |
| 07:02.47 | Mexa_ | What silly crime did you do to have them come over and confiscate your computer? |
| 07:02.54 | Mexa_ | for |
| 07:03.09 | SoulTaker916_ | they saying i downloaded child pornography |
| 07:03.20 | SoulTaker916_ | in reality i was trying to download it all |
| 07:03.56 | Mexa_ | download it all? |
| 07:04.01 | Mexa_ | The mozilla plugin? |
| 07:04.09 | SoulTaker916_ | naw |
| 07:04.11 | SoulTaker916_ | limewire |
| 07:04.18 | Mexa_ | pewpew |
| 07:04.28 | JademusSreg | Mexa, are version files 40 bits or 40 bytes in size? |
| 07:04.36 | Mexa_ | 4o bytes |
| 07:04.43 | Mexa_ | *40 |
| 07:04.46 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
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| 07:04.52 | Mexa_ | uncompressed that is. |
| 07:05.05 | SoulTaker916_ | lol.... |
| 07:05.19 | JademusSreg | I assume MPQ editor shows the uncompressed file sizes (and shows compressed sizes in the properties). |
| 07:05.29 | *** join/#sc2mapster McHearty (~fuck@static-50-53-135-51.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net) |
| 07:05.34 | Mexa_ | Back to you... [08:03] <SoulTaker916_> they saying i downloaded child pornography [08:03] <SoulTaker916_> in reality i was trying to download it all -What's the different on those two statements? |
| 07:05.53 | Mexa_ | Perhaps |
| 07:06.05 | Mexa_ | I save my maps as component format and look there |
| 07:06.11 | SoulTaker916_ | download all the porn |
| 07:06.12 | SoulTaker916_ | vs |
| 07:06.14 | McHearty | o.o |
| 07:06.15 | SoulTaker916_ | just childporn |
| 07:06.31 | McHearty | why would you want all the porn or just child porn |
| 07:06.40 | SoulTaker916_ | cause im a man.... |
| 07:06.45 | SoulTaker916_ | i gots needs |
| 07:06.46 | Mexa_ | Why do you even download porn, newb. |
| 07:06.47 | McHearty | not to mention child porn isn't the only type of porn that's illegal in some places |
| 07:07.01 | SoulTaker916_ | i tryed to download ALL porn |
| 07:07.09 | Mexa_ | Bad idea |
| 07:07.11 | SoulTaker916_ | i selected everything on limewire |
| 07:07.14 | SoulTaker916_ | duh... |
| 07:07.26 | Mexa_ | So then you probably downloaded child pornoraphy |
| 07:07.31 | Mexa_ | case solved. |
| 07:07.38 | SoulTaker916_ | thanks...... |
| 07:07.42 | Mexa_ | ._. |
| 07:07.45 | SoulTaker916_ | im kinda torn about this n all... |
| 07:08.03 | Mexa_ | I'm not sure what to thin about it, sorry. |
| 07:08.12 | SoulTaker916_ | its cool |
| 07:08.15 | McHearty | you're going to jail |
| 07:08.16 | McHearty | :| |
| 07:08.27 | SoulTaker916_ | they want to send me for 16 months |
| 07:08.30 | SoulTaker916_ | prision |
| 07:08.32 | McHearty | yeah |
| 07:08.34 | SoulTaker916_ | fellony |
| 07:08.40 | McHearty | and if anyone finds out why you're in there |
| 07:08.43 | McHearty | your life is going to suck |
| 07:08.47 | McHearty | like real bad |
| 07:08.48 | SoulTaker916_ | i know |
| 07:08.57 | McHearty | and you're going to be a sex offender for the rest of your life |
| 07:09.00 | SoulTaker916_ | theres a good chance this will all go away |
| 07:09.05 | SoulTaker916_ | na |
| 07:09.06 | SoulTaker916_ | 10 years |
| 07:09.14 | McHearty | lol you don't get past that stigma |
| 07:09.14 | SoulTaker916_ | at 8 years u apply for rehabilitation |
| 07:09.20 | McHearty | once you're branded a sexual offender |
| 07:09.20 | McHearty | thats it |
| 07:09.32 | SoulTaker916_ | its only 8 years |
| 07:09.39 | SoulTaker916_ | then it dissapears |
| 07:09.42 | SoulTaker916_ | and like i said |
| 07:09.45 | SoulTaker916_ | this can all go away |
| 07:09.52 | Mexa_ | In what state is this? |
| 07:09.53 | SoulTaker916_ | i might be not guilty |
| 07:09.53 | McHearty | lol just because its off your recod |
| 07:09.58 | SoulTaker916_ | california |
| 07:10.00 | McHearty | doesn't mean it's done with |
| 07:10.03 | McHearty | lol! |
| 07:10.04 | McHearty | yeah |
| 07:10.08 | McHearty | you're not getting off the hook |
| 07:10.09 | McHearty | in california |
| 07:10.20 | SoulTaker916_ | come on guys |
| 07:10.22 | SoulTaker916_ | chill out |
| 07:10.25 | McHearty | uhh |
| 07:10.25 | McHearty | no |
| 07:10.26 | SoulTaker916_ | i jsut want to get my map |
| 07:10.29 | SoulTaker916_ | not have this convo |
| 07:10.43 | McHearty | I don't help people who download child porn |
| 07:11.17 | Mexa_ | Aside from that it wasn't intentional I suppose. |
| 07:11.33 | SoulTaker916_ | mexa how do i mute pplz? |
| 07:11.37 | JademusSreg | ~Mexa |
| 07:11.37 | purl | from memory, mexa is a lagomorph. |
| 07:11.39 | JademusSreg | <3 |
| 07:11.50 | Mexa_ | That's not how you mute <3 |
| 07:12.13 | JademusSreg | Love me some purls of wisdom. |
| 07:12.16 | McHearty | its easy to say it wasn't intentional after the fact |
| 07:12.25 | SoulTaker916_ | jade |
| 07:12.29 | SoulTaker916_ | how do i get the map |
| 07:12.35 | SoulTaker916_ | ? |
| 07:12.37 | Net_Creator | SoulTaker916_, is it locked? |
| 07:12.42 | SoulTaker916_ | yes |
| 07:12.45 | Net_Creator | you don't. |
| 07:12.47 | Net_Creator | simple. |
| 07:12.52 | Net_Creator | case closed. |
| 07:12.52 | SoulTaker916_ | no work arounds? |
| 07:12.55 | Mexa_ | You can recover your map from most of it, even if it's locked. |
| 07:12.55 | Net_Creator | case closed. |
| 07:13.02 | Net_Creator | Mexa_, shhh |
| 07:13.08 | Mexa_ | lol |
| 07:13.13 | SoulTaker916_ | well people keep getting muted in this bish |
| 07:13.20 | SoulTaker916_ | mexa will u help me? |
| 07:13.30 | SoulTaker916_ | atleast point me |
| 07:13.33 | SoulTaker916_ | in a direction |
| 07:13.45 | Mexa_ | No, I must unfortunantly go back to bed. |
| 07:14.01 | SoulTaker916_ | kk |
| 07:14.02 | Mexa_ | A direction? Locate your map in Program Data after you got it off battle.net |
| 07:14.15 | SoulTaker916_ | isnt it encrypted? |
| 07:14.21 | SoulTaker916_ | or somthing? |
| 07:14.23 | Kueken | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/general-chat/13581-sot-is-unlocked/ |
| 07:14.26 | Kueken | try that |
| 07:14.30 | SoulTaker916_ | thank you |
| 07:14.35 | Kueken | not really, some data gets deleted |
| 07:14.39 | Mexa_ | It has an encrypted name. |
| 07:14.42 | Kueken | you will lose your trigger data |
| 07:14.51 | Kueken | but not the map script |
| 07:15.03 | Kueken | ad you might lose a bunch of your texts |
| 07:15.07 | SoulTaker916_ | so like galaxy is in tact? |
| 07:15.10 | Kueken | yes |
| 07:15.17 | Net_Creator | texts? pfsh |
| 07:15.20 | Net_Creator | that's easy to recover |
| 07:15.27 | Net_Creator | play the map. write down texts. |
| 07:15.35 | Kueken | yes, sure |
| 07:15.39 | SoulTaker916_ | thanks kueken |
| 07:15.45 | Net_Creator | tedious, but still easy. |
| 07:15.55 | Kueken | still, a lot of work, especially, if you use images and data references in texts |
| 07:15.56 | AlphA_VsT | YAY |
| 07:16.05 | Net_Creator | AlphA_VsT, congrats. |
| 07:16.08 | Mexa_ | WHAT! |
| 07:16.39 | Mexa_ | Brb in 2½ hour I mean. |
| 07:16.54 | Net_Creator | Kueken, easy never implied the duration of work. xD I'm about to write a voting system. It'll take a few days, but it's easy. =p |
| 07:17.07 | Kueken | :D |
| 07:20.01 | AlphA_VsT | no real congrats |
| 07:20.02 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 07:20.12 | AlphA_VsT | i jsut beat nexus wars 4v1 yay |
| 07:20.14 | AlphA_VsT | lololololol |
| 07:20.17 | McHearty | rofl |
| 07:20.21 | McHearty | thats sad |
| 07:20.37 | AlphA_VsT | they said gg like 10 times :D |
| 07:20.52 | McHearty | gotta love bm |
| 07:20.57 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 07:28.54 | AlphA_VsT | fuck yeah |
| 07:37.47 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 07:48.53 | AlphA_VsT | idono |
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| 08:05.05 | AlphA_VsT | haha did a silly little into :D |
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| 08:31.21 | A1win | had some bugs in my vortex pull function, works much smoother now o: |
| 08:31.35 | JademusSreg | Woo. |
| 08:31.39 | JademusSreg | Congrats. |
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| 08:31.48 | Bounty | JademusSreg |
| 08:31.50 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 08:32.01 | Bounty | i require exactly 20 seconds of your time |
| 08:32.01 | A1win | and I made missiles not collide with them, so that they are easier to utilize |
| 08:32.13 | JademusSreg | A test? |
| 08:32.17 | Bounty | indeed |
| 08:32.23 | Bounty | victory conditions/ending cinematic |
| 08:32.24 | Bounty | =P |
| 08:32.29 | Bounty | the good stuff |
| 08:32.47 | Bounty | epic as fuck lol |
| 08:32.59 | Bounty | uploading/logging on now |
| 08:33.05 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/a/Screenshot2012-03-05%2010_32_29.jpg |
| 08:36.13 | AlphA_VsT | sexy |
| 08:36.16 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/a/Screenshot2012-03-05%2010_35_50.jpg |
| 08:36.34 | JademusSreg | Did it disconnected me? |
| 08:36.42 | AlphA_VsT | OMG AMAZING! |
| 08:37.12 | AlphA_VsT | um |
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| 08:38.02 | JademusSreg | Haha, |
| 08:38.29 | JademusSreg | I was disconnected right before the movie started. |
| 08:38.30 | Bounty | da fuck happend jade |
| 08:38.32 | Bounty | lol |
| 08:38.34 | Bounty | np |
| 08:38.35 | Bounty | log back on >< |
| 08:39.34 | JademusSreg | Quickly, before my ISP shits its pants. |
| 08:42.48 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 08:43.23 | Bounty | lol |
| 08:43.34 | JademusSreg | Anyway, I managed to respawn before the game ended. |
| 08:43.41 | Bounty | lol |
| 08:43.46 | Bounty | did the cinematic still work? |
| 08:45.14 | JademusSreg | I saw an empty little curb by the sea. |
| 08:45.44 | Bounty | why didnt u say nething |
| 08:46.24 | JademusSreg | May as well ask me why I didn't mention not seeing a unicorn. |
| 08:46.52 | AlphA_VsT | FUCKING ERROR! |
| 08:46.56 | AlphA_VsT | HATE YOU! |
| 08:46.57 | Bounty | well i mean here i am thinking u saw it the cinematic |
| 08:47.01 | Bounty | and that it worked |
| 08:47.03 | Bounty | lol |
| 08:47.11 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 08:47.13 | Bounty | and why did u throw urself into the water right before it started both times? |
| 08:47.29 | JademusSreg | I didn't know what to expect, so I wouldn't notice not seeing it. |
| 08:48.03 | Bounty | did you see ANYTHING at all? |
| 08:48.07 | JademusSreg | As for the dying in water, it would just happen. |
| 08:48.29 | Bounty | what do u mean it would just happen? lol |
| 08:48.31 | JademusSreg | I saw a curb by the water. I was expecting something to drive up. |
| 08:48.45 | Bounty | well that wasnt what u were supposed to see at all |
| 08:49.10 | Bounty | and im pretty sure its bc u threw urself into the water lol |
| 08:49.25 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 08:50.06 | JademusSreg | I was in the center of the island. |
| 08:50.15 | JademusSreg | So I'd have to have thrown awfully hard. |
| 08:51.01 | Bounty | ur a bad tester sometimes u know that |
| 08:51.08 | JademusSreg | Naw. |
| 08:51.09 | Bounty | bc what ur describibg sounds like something u should have said |
| 08:51.10 | Bounty | lol |
| 08:51.16 | Bounty | sounds like a serious issue |
| 08:51.17 | Bounty | all u did was |
| 08:51.19 | Bounty | and i quote |
| 08:51.23 | Bounty | "HAHAHAHAHAHHA" |
| 08:51.24 | JademusSreg | Your underlying assumptions were wrong. |
| 08:51.25 | Bounty | *quit* |
| 08:51.26 | Bounty | lol |
| 08:51.39 | JademusSreg | I died because the game killed me. =D |
| 08:52.32 | JademusSreg | So what was the cinematic I missed? |
| 08:52.41 | AlphA_VsT | YAY |
| 08:52.49 | AlphA_VsT | i need some basic ai |
| 08:52.53 | AlphA_VsT | and to finish my map |
| 08:52.56 | Bounty | its nothing major but i thought it was cool/funny |
| 08:52.58 | AlphA_VsT | and I can release |
| 08:53.13 | Bounty | bc of the music mostly |
| 08:54.32 | Bounty | we can try again if u want |
| 08:54.38 | Bounty | to not throw urself into the fuckign water |
| 08:54.40 | Bounty | which i know u did |
| 08:54.41 | Bounty | lol |
| 08:54.50 | JademusSreg | Haha, naw. Sleep time impends. |
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| 08:57.57 | Bounty | well neways, if u had seen the cinematic u would have gotten an idea of what i might name the map >< |
| 08:58.36 | JademusSreg | Accidentally Explosion Happy The Time |
| 08:58.59 | JademusSreg | Delicious word salad. |
| 09:02.58 | AlphA_VsT | is it possible to lock a player to a starting point? Well make sure at least one player from a team starts at a specific point? |
| 09:03.21 | JademusSreg | Isn't that defined in Player Properties? |
| 09:03.27 | JademusSreg | Also, sleep time. |
| 09:03.34 | AlphA_VsT | idono |
| 09:03.47 | A1win | hmm... I enabled Pushable for players so that bumping into others wouldn't feel so weird, but if I want an acceleration whenever the move ability is used, players can move inside each other with it |
| 09:03.51 | AlphA_VsT | i mean i can set the start location |
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| 09:04.29 | AlphA_VsT | but i cant set them all to 1 location |
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| 09:06.16 | Parthon | I start starting locations, that does the trick |
| 09:07.10 | AlphA_VsT | ? |
| 09:11.50 | AlphA_VsT | i might have |
| 09:13.21 | AlphA_VsT | haha ops |
| 09:13.31 | Parthon | lol |
| 09:13.35 | Parthon | I STACK starting locations |
| 09:14.54 | AlphA_VsT | i cant |
| 09:14.57 | AlphA_VsT | 0.o |
| 09:15.19 | AlphA_VsT | basically i have 1 starting location that starts an event :P |
| 09:15.21 | A1win | how can I attach a 2D sprite to an actor so that it appears under the actor when viewed from above D: |
| 09:15.30 | AlphA_VsT | and I kinda need it to not be |
| 09:15.34 | AlphA_VsT | empty |
| 09:16.12 | A1win | err and the sprite would have to be able to show in a different way for each player :E |
| 09:17.08 | Parthon | aah right, that's tricky |
| 09:17.09 | McHearty | http://soundcloud.com/four-tet/burial-four-tet-nova |
| 09:17.10 | A1win | I guess attaching a dialog to a unit can't make it appear under the unit? |
| 09:17.24 | Parthon | AlphA_VsT: custom game type though? |
| 09:17.38 | AlphA_VsT | yeah |
| 09:17.54 | AlphA_VsT | i guess |
| 09:18.07 | AlphA_VsT | i need to make a trigger randomizer :( |
| 09:18.16 | A1win | oh noes ;p |
| 09:18.20 | Parthon | lol |
| 09:18.28 | Parthon | or just use your trigger-fu to force specific spawns |
| 09:18.36 | AlphA_VsT | how? |
| 09:19.00 | Parthon | well, how are you spawning players at the moment? |
| 09:19.13 | AlphA_VsT | spawning at start location |
| 09:19.25 | AlphA_VsT | with a loop |
| 09:20.46 | Parthon | create melee starting units for player x at location y? |
| 09:21.36 | AlphA_VsT | no my civilians |
| 09:21.41 | A1win | for each integer x from 1 to number of teams { temp group = players on team x; while (number of players in temp group > 0) { randomplayer = random player from temp group; spawn randomplayer; remove randomplayer from tempgroup } } |
| 09:22.27 | Parthon | then don't use starting locations, assign and set points yourself |
| 09:22.28 | AlphA_VsT | its one team to nto have a ugly huge team list in the lobby |
| 09:22.38 | AlphA_VsT | :p |
| 09:22.50 | AlphA_VsT | I think I have to |
| 09:22.54 | A1win | you get the idea anyway |
| 09:23.00 | AlphA_VsT | I have tired to avoid it |
| 09:23.02 | AlphA_VsT | but fuck |
| 09:23.14 | A1win | :P it's not that hard |
| 09:23.17 | Parthon | you have more control over it that way, it's more work, but then it works how YOU want it to |
| 09:23.41 | AlphA_VsT | well it works how I want it to :D |
| 09:24.05 | Parthon | I thought it wasn't spawning in the location you needed it to |
| 09:24.17 | AlphA_VsT | haha now its not that I added this shit |
| 09:27.40 | AlphA_VsT | hmmm maybe i could just simply check to see if its empty and then move a random person lololol |
| 09:29.56 | AlphA_VsT | there |
| 09:30.04 | AlphA_VsT | or not |
| 09:34.57 | Parthon | meh :P |
| 09:37.19 | AlphA_VsT | grrr |
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| 09:42.27 | AlphA_VsT | lol ok |
| 09:42.39 | AlphA_VsT | maybe I should just add bots :D |
| 09:42.41 | AlphA_VsT | HMMM |
| 09:42.42 | AlphA_VsT | YES |
| 09:42.52 | AlphA_VsT | simple |
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| 09:46.25 | AlphA_VsT | LOLOL |
| 09:47.42 | AlphA_VsT | hmmm |
| 09:47.44 | AlphA_VsT | well fuck |
| 09:47.53 | AlphA_VsT | empty players have no start locations? |
| 09:47.58 | AlphA_VsT | lame |
| 10:06.42 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/a/Screenshot2012-03-05%2012_04_15.jpg those are dialogs, so they jerk a bit when the ships move... would be better if I could do them as actors |
| 10:07.54 | AlphA_VsT | what are dialogs? |
| 10:08.08 | A1win | ._o |
| 10:08.12 | A1win | UI elements? |
| 10:08.17 | A1win | oh |
| 10:08.19 | A1win | the circles |
| 10:08.50 | AlphA_VsT | why don't you just make a flat model? |
| 10:08.51 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 10:09.04 | A1win | no idea about the tools |
| 10:09.13 | A1win | to make models with |
| 10:09.19 | AlphA_VsT | hmm |
| 10:09.31 | AlphA_VsT | you want my old point model? |
| 10:09.32 | A1win | also they need to be different color for different players |
| 10:09.39 | AlphA_VsT | its a circle |
| 10:09.46 | AlphA_VsT | with some dots aroudn it |
| 10:09.49 | AlphA_VsT | team colored |
| 10:09.54 | A1win | that's not what I want |
| 10:10.01 | A1win | about the colors |
| 10:10.09 | AlphA_VsT | ? |
| 10:10.14 | A1win | allies need to show as one color, enemies as one color, self as one color |
| 10:10.30 | A1win | so player A might have red circle for player B and yellow circle for player C |
| 10:10.50 | A1win | so not sure how I could do that with actors |
| 10:11.00 | AlphA_VsT | you can hide actors per player |
| 10:11.02 | A1win | would probably need 3 actors and only show one of them depending on the player |
| 10:12.21 | A1win | hmm I guess it'd work |
| 10:12.35 | A1win | wanna share that model then? o: |
| 10:12.50 | AlphA_VsT | haha yeah let me find it |
| 10:13.16 | AlphA_VsT | its slightly animated if i remember also |
| 10:13.41 | A1win | then I'd also need to figure out a prettier way of showing life/energy than the bars x.x |
| 10:15.14 | A1win | maybe I'll only display energy for each player separately |
| 10:15.22 | A1win | err I mean for the player himself |
| 10:16.04 | A1win | but life would probably have to show on the unit... |
| 10:17.35 | AlphA_VsT | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Point.zip |
| 10:18.52 | AlphA_VsT | should be good :P |
| 10:19.29 | A1win | do the textures go in Assets/Textures/ ? |
| 10:19.57 | AlphA_VsT | yeah |
| 10:20.22 | AlphA_VsT | ops I guess i fucked up when i zipped :P |
| 10:21.22 | AlphA_VsT | have to redo the texture if you use it |
| 10:22.01 | A1win | probably won't use that for the final, seems a bit too massive |
| 10:22.35 | AlphA_VsT | oh yeah it is kinda thick ops |
| 10:23.29 | AlphA_VsT | sigh |
| 10:23.35 | AlphA_VsT | I should make some little models :P |
| 10:25.33 | A1win | mmh I'll just use this 2D stuff for now, there are more important things to do before tweaking UI :P |
| 10:26.59 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 10:26.59 | AlphA_VsT | yeah |
| 10:28.21 | A1win | these vortexes are much better now that other missiles just fly through them xO |
| 10:28.33 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 10:30.15 | AlphA_VsT | I need to make some models for lights and such :P |
| 10:30.34 | AlphA_VsT | so I might make some random stuff also lol |
| 10:30.43 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/a/Screenshot2012-03-05%2012_30_15.jpg |
| 10:31.11 | Kueken | gravity wells? |
| 10:31.19 | AlphA_VsT | yeah its nifty |
| 10:31.19 | A1win | sort of |
| 10:31.33 | A1win | they pull missile angles towards themselves |
| 10:31.37 | A1win | not with realistic physics |
| 10:31.48 | Kueken | fully triggered missiles, I assume? |
| 10:31.55 | A1win | yeah, the movement is |
| 10:32.15 | Kueken | too bad :p |
| 10:32.21 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 10:32.29 | AlphA_VsT | still cool |
| 10:32.30 | Kueken | I would like to have a way to influence data missiles like this |
| 10:32.37 | Kueken | yeah, probably |
| 10:32.54 | A1win | heh |
| 10:33.09 | A1win | you'd never notice the difference D: |
| 10:33.34 | Kueken | not saying it would be better |
| 10:33.42 | Kueken | just that I'd like to know a way |
| 10:34.03 | A1win | ;p |
| 10:34.29 | A1win | I see no good reason |
| 10:35.35 | Kueken | is "because I want to" not enough? |
| 10:36.06 | A1win | no :P |
| 10:36.37 | A1win | people want lots of crazy things |
| 10:37.02 | AlphA_VsT | yeah |
| 10:37.13 | A1win | I wouldn't recommend cutting your wrists if you wanted to either |
| 10:38.40 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 10:45.00 | AlphA_VsT | hmmm i have a issue where im not able to move :( |
| 10:45.11 | AlphA_VsT | unless i use my 1 skill :( |
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| 11:11.29 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
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| 12:01.33 | A1win | damn, sentry guardian shield isn't a full sphere |
| 12:01.39 | A1win | looks bad in space |
| 12:06.50 | Kueken | try the old time bomb model |
| 12:06.58 | Kueken | or zeratuls void prison |
| 12:10.39 | A1win | time bomb? |
| 12:13.34 | A1win | hmm |
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| 12:14.25 | A1win | oh cool, could work |
| 12:15.01 | A1win | no way to change the opacity of particles? |
| 12:20.17 | A1win | ah nevermind |
| 12:20.29 | A1win | it didn't use particles like other shields do o: |
| 12:24.06 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/a/Screenshot2012-03-05%2014_23_24.jpg |
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| 12:25.29 | MasterReY | hello |
| 12:26.09 | MasterReY | Can anyone tell me how to start and pause certain sound files per trigger? |
| 12:26.55 | MasterReY | i have a button called "music" for example, and when a player presses it it should start a music file (terran game music for example) and if he presses the button again it should pause |
| 12:26.57 | A1win | play sound, store last played sound to variable, stop sound variable |
| 12:27.28 | MasterReY | i need cheks if a sound is currently running |
| 12:27.32 | A1win | and a boolean to store whether the button should stop or start it |
| 12:27.34 | MasterReY | can i do that the same way? |
| 12:27.52 | A1win | mmh not sure if there is a function that returns if a sound is playing |
| 12:27.59 | MasterReY | ok in reality i have 3 buttons |
| 12:28.08 | MasterReY | and only ONE should run at a time |
| 12:28.14 | MasterReY | for example |
| 12:28.29 | MasterReY | player presses button 1 --> music 1 plays |
| 12:28.42 | A1win | use logic o: |
| 12:28.45 | MasterReY | player presses button 3 ---> music 1 paused, music 3 plays |
| 12:29.47 | MasterReY | so after he presses button 1 and plays music 1 i can save it into a variable and use that variable to pause music 1 when he presses button 3 ? |
| 12:30.07 | A1win | yup |
| 12:30.15 | MasterReY | kk |
| 12:30.19 | MasterReY | will try that |
| 12:30.21 | MasterReY | thanks :) |
| 12:30.45 | MasterReY | sadly i dont have the editor here on the uni computers, so i have to wait til im home |
| 12:30.46 | MasterReY | :) |
| 12:31.57 | MasterReY | oh one more thing: if i want to import a custom mp3 from my computer, where and in which format should the file be? |
| 12:32.11 | MasterReY | i guess i need to import it first |
| 12:32.24 | A1win | mp3 is fine |
| 12:32.28 | MasterReY | kk nice |
| 12:32.39 | A1win | doesn't matter where you import it, you need to create a Sound data object and set the file for it |
| 12:32.55 | MasterReY | and i can just find the file in the trigger editor if i imported it anywhere<ß |
| 12:33.01 | MasterReY | ?* |
| 12:33.09 | MasterReY | ah |
| 12:33.12 | MasterReY | i understand |
| 12:33.22 | MasterReY | kk data sound object, thats what i needed to know |
| 12:33.25 | MasterReY | kk thanks again |
| 12:33.35 | MasterReY | ill leave now, bye |
| 12:37.50 | A1win | pfft I'll just remove movement from this, the controls just don't support it |
| 12:38.02 | A1win | the gravity wells will make targeting a challenge, don't need movement to do the same |
| 13:19.42 | Ashamed | whyy! |
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| 14:26.46 | A1win | anyone up for a quick test of this space arcade map (EU)? |
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| 15:40.41 | MasterReY | hi :) |
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| 15:41.21 | MasterReY | Is it possible that "Test Document" doesnt play sounds? |
| 15:42.31 | MasterReY | because i have an if-then-else-construct and it should play a sound (terran game music). I have an action displaying a test message together with the sound |
| 15:42.51 | MasterReY | the test message appears ---> the if-then-else works properly |
| 15:42.55 | MasterReY | but i hear no music |
| 15:43.04 | MasterReY | when testing thr document |
| 15:43.27 | MasterReY | the sound file is the default terran music without any changes to any data |
| 15:45.50 | Ashamed | no |
| 15:45.53 | Ashamed | master you are doing it wrong |
| 15:46.10 | MasterReY | hm? |
| 15:46.14 | MasterReY | how? |
| 15:46.22 | Ashamed | i dunno but sound works in test doucments |
| 15:46.48 | Ashamed | i would go to sc2 mapster and check a tutorial on how to play sound its not as easy as 123 |
| 15:47.08 | MasterReY | o_O |
| 15:47.19 | MasterReY | i used many other sounds already |
| 15:47.24 | MasterReY | for example "Welcome" |
| 15:47.30 | MasterReY | and "Round" "One" etc |
| 15:47.36 | MasterReY | for every round in my map |
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| 15:48.21 | Batomys | Captcha just asked me to "gingerly sspank" |
| 15:48.40 | Batomys | What's a good resolution for the two map preview images? |
| 15:49.08 | Ashamed | so if you already have used sound and it has worked fine |
| 15:49.15 | Ashamed | what does that tell you about your current trigger? |
| 15:49.35 | MasterReY | well |
| 15:49.41 | MasterReY | its a rasther simple if-then-else |
| 15:49.46 | MasterReY | and the test message is workin |
| 15:50.00 | MasterReY | the text message action is right before the "Play Sound" action |
| 15:50.02 | Ashamed | pastebin trigger |
| 15:50.14 | MasterReY | so the point in the if-then-else is reached properly |
| 15:51.26 | MasterReY | http://pastebin.com/4DjXinQd |
| 15:52.22 | MasterReY | "TerranMusicOn" is a boolean set to false in the beginning |
| 15:52.34 | MasterReY | "MusicTerranOn" |
| 15:53.07 | MasterReY | the "UI - Display "musictest" for (All players) to Subtitle area" works perfectly fine |
| 15:54.38 | A1win | you could just set the sound to No Sound when the music is not playing and compare the sound variable instead of a boolean |
| 15:56.02 | MasterReY | hm |
| 15:56.23 | Batomys | Anyone know the common resolution for custom Map Preview images? |
| 15:56.27 | Batomys | 256x256? |
| 15:57.44 | MasterReY | you mean instead having 3 booleans for each music, just have one sound variable? |
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| 16:34.14 | Ashamed | meow? |
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| 16:39.52 | MasterReY | meow |
| 16:40.03 | MasterReY | hehe can you help me with another topic? |
| 16:41.39 | Ashamed | i am at work so i am busy |
| 16:43.01 | MasterReY | kk :o |
| 16:43.04 | MasterReY | anyone else? |
| 16:43.46 | MasterReY | its just how i link for-loop created buttons to diff. triggers |
| 16:47.15 | Ashamed | what do you mean |
| 16:47.17 | Ashamed | dialogs? |
| 16:47.38 | Ashamed | my computer is denying my connection so i can't look at my maps at home >< |
| 16:47.57 | MasterReY | ^^ |
| 16:48.02 | MasterReY | hehe i thought your busy |
| 16:48.04 | MasterReY | well |
| 16:48.12 | MasterReY | i have buttons created per a for-loop |
| 16:48.35 | MasterReY | for 1 to 31 do: create button with (x,y) offset |
| 16:49.00 | MasterReY | save last creatded dialog item to buttons array[picked integer] |
| 16:49.17 | MasterReY | y = y+50 |
| 16:49.25 | MasterReY | thats basically it |
| 16:50.10 | MasterReY | it created 31 buttons from top to buttom of the screen |
| 16:50.26 | MasterReY | now i have another trigger with event "any dialog item is used" |
| 16:51.01 | MasterReY | condition: used dialog item == buttons array[1],buttons array[2],buttons array[3],buttons array[4],etc |
| 16:51.53 | MasterReY | here is where my problem is: i want to start "trigger1" when button array[1] was the used button |
| 16:52.03 | MasterReY | and "trigger2" when button array[2] was used |
| 16:52.05 | MasterReY | etc |
| 16:52.32 | MasterReY | so i need a check to see which index of the buttons array was the used button |
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| 17:52.17 | JademusSreg | From the depths, I ejaculate- no wait, come. |
| 18:00.17 | MasterReY | rofl |
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| 18:10.09 | Ashamed | where the FUCK is the gw2 invites |
| 18:12.14 | JademusSreg | Nice article: http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/03/03/five-tricks-developers-should-use-to-help-disabled-gamers/ |
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| 18:22.39 | MasterReY | hey, can i release a map under a different name but let user keep their bookmarks on that map? |
| 18:22.52 | Parthon | no |
| 18:22.55 | MasterReY | kk |
| 18:22.56 | MasterReY | :o |
| 18:23.05 | Parthon | lol, I really dunno actually |
| 18:23.10 | MasterReY | t-t |
| 18:23.12 | Parthon | it might be based on name, or based on map id |
| 18:23.17 | MasterReY | ya |
| 18:23.22 | MasterReY | thats what im asking basically |
| 18:23.24 | MasterReY | :P |
| 18:24.50 | JademusSreg | If you change the map info name, it will be published as a different map. |
| 18:25.16 | JademusSreg | Which means it will not have the bookmarks of its predecessor. |
| 18:26.13 | MasterReY | kk thanks |
| 18:26.48 | MasterReY | jademus, i know im always bugging you, but can you help me with 2 more little things? |
| 18:26.57 | MasterReY | oh and if im annoying you please tell me^^ |
| 18:27.41 | JademusSreg | The only thing annoying is insecurity and asking questions about questions rather than asking the question directly. =D |
| 18:28.37 | JademusSreg | Which is to say, don't ask if you can ask a question, just ask it, and don't worry what I or anyone else thinks of you. |
| 18:28.43 | MasterReY | ^^ |
| 18:29.03 | MasterReY | kk ill just copy it from above because i asked it here earlier |
| 18:29.23 | MasterReY | MasterReYi have buttons created per a for-loop |
| 18:29.25 | MasterReY | MasterReYfor 1 to 31 do: create button with (x,y) offset |
| 18:29.27 | MasterReY | MasterReYsave last creatded dialog item to buttons array[picked integer] |
| 18:29.28 | MasterReY | MasterReYy = y+50 |
| 18:29.30 | MasterReY | MasterReYthats basically it |
| 18:29.32 | MasterReY | MasterReYit created 31 buttons from top to buttom of the screen |
| 18:29.33 | MasterReY | MasterReYnow i have another trigger with event "any dialog item is used" |
| 18:29.35 | MasterReY | MasterReYcondition: used dialog item == buttons array[1],buttons array[2],buttons array[3],buttons array[4],etc |
| 18:29.36 | MasterReY | MasterReYhere is where my problem is: i want to start "trigger1" when button array[1] was the used button |
| 18:29.38 | MasterReY | MasterReYand "trigger2" when button array[2] was used |
| 18:29.39 | MasterReY | MasterReYetc |
| 18:29.41 | MasterReY | |<--MaxMode has left freenode (Quit: Leaving.) |
| 18:29.42 | MasterReY | MasterReYso i need a check to see which index of the buttons array was the used button |
| 18:29.49 | JademusSreg | This server has a flood limit. |
| 18:30.13 | MasterReY | thats all^^ |
| 18:30.25 | JademusSreg | For future consideration, long text should be posted on pastebin so you don't get kicked. |
| 18:30.35 | MasterReY | ok ill remember that |
| 18:31.22 | MasterReY | i know i could "fix" the problem by creating 31 new triggers with the "dialog item was used" event and only one condition for every single of the 31 buttons |
| 18:31.32 | MasterReY | but i thought there should be a way to do this in one trigger |
| 18:31.34 | JademusSreg | You have a bunch of implementation details, but I'm more interested in what you're trying to accomplish in the first place. |
| 18:31.40 | MasterReY | ok |
| 18:31.59 | MasterReY | its a micro map where the user should be able to choose every round individually without a strict order |
| 18:32.12 | MasterReY | i created a dialog with 31 buttons (because there are 31 rounds) |
| 18:32.31 | MasterReY | and depending on the clicked button, the specific round should start |
| 18:32.55 | MasterReY | i.e. user presses button "8" ---> round 8 starts (marines vs ling/baneling) |
| 18:33.00 | MasterReY | just an example |
| 18:34.10 | MasterReY | the dialog with the buttons and the buttons itself look totally fine already and they work (tested by letting the same trigger start for every button) |
| 18:34.34 | JademusSreg | How many users does it support? |
| 18:34.57 | MasterReY | but i need all the 31 diff. triggers (rounds) for the buttons |
| 18:35.00 | MasterReY | 2 playing users |
| 18:35.07 | MasterReY | and spectators |
| 18:35.24 | MasterReY | ill probably just allow player1 to choose everything |
| 18:35.46 | JademusSreg | This is easy. I know exactly how it would be done in galaxy, so I'll explain it, the write some demo code. |
| 18:35.53 | JademusSreg | *then |
| 18:36.14 | MasterReY | kk, thats nice of you :) |
| 18:37.37 | MasterReY | this is the menu btw: http://pastebin.com/6GaCJ6hf |
| 18:38.03 | A1win | JademusSreg, I think I'll end up removing movement from the map after all, the controls just don't support it at all... instead there will be more (counter-)gravity wells to make aiming more difficult, just added an ability for ships that turns nearby missiles away |
| 18:41.55 | JademusSreg | Basically, you need either a data table index or array of triggers. First, make a custom action that takes both a button or creates a button and a trigger, and that action will store the trigger in either the data table index or array; in the data table index, it will use the button as the key by casting the button to string and storing the trigger at that key; in the array approach, you |
| 18:41.55 | JademusSreg | make a struct (called a Record in GUI) with member variables for both the button and the trigger. Second, have your setup call this new custom action. Third, make a trigger that fires for any dialog button press, and have it check to see if the button is in the array, or if the value exists in the data table. |
| 18:42.02 | JademusSreg | That's the summary. |
| 18:42.18 | JademusSreg | I'll brb, and then I'll pastebin some demo code. |
| 18:42.29 | MasterReY | i already created a data table with all triggers |
| 18:42.30 | JademusSreg | (A1, no worries.) |
| 18:42.31 | MasterReY | :) |
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| 18:55.09 | JademusSreg | Back. |
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| 18:57.13 | MasterReY | i dont really understand what you mean by making a custom action, but i can tell you that i already put all the triggers in the data table with strings as "Round 1", "Round 2" etc (i would change the strings if needed ofc) |
| 18:57.20 | Bounty | Hay Guyz |
| 18:57.38 | JademusSreg | Naw, Mast, abstraction is key here. |
| 18:57.40 | JademusSreg | Hi Bounty. |
| 18:57.56 | MasterReY | i also have a dialog item array with all buttons |
| 18:58.08 | MasterReY | "buttons[1]","buttons[2]" etc |
| 18:58.22 | JademusSreg | I'm writing the demo code. |
| 18:58.33 | MasterReY | the problem is the connection between the triggers and buttons |
| 18:58.35 | MasterReY | ^^ |
| 19:10.21 | JademusSreg | http://pastebin.com/iK1zg3kz |
| 19:10.56 | JademusSreg | There's the custom action in principle, and an example of how the value would be utilized. |
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| 19:15.26 | Mexa | Evenin' |
| 19:15.34 | JademusSreg | Hello Mexaling. |
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| 19:15.46 | Taintedwisp | Buttsex....that is all |
| 19:15.47 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:16.50 | Vailreth | hello |
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| 19:17.08 | Vailreth | and im back |
| 19:19.08 | Bounty | Down for a test JademusSreg? |
| 19:19.17 | JademusSreg | Sure. |
| 19:20.00 | JademusSreg | Let me know when it's uploaded. |
| 19:20.14 | Bounty | uploaded, logging on now |
| 19:21.26 | Mexa | Hmm, lots of european stores have put up the release date of D3 for 17th of April :o |
| 19:23.17 | JademusSreg | Nicely done. You intend to call it Road Assassin? |
| 19:23.24 | Bounty | something along those lines |
| 19:23.33 | Bounty | Something Assassin |
| 19:24.20 | Mexa | What's the news? |
| 19:24.28 | Bounty | since one of the main forms of points will be to kill the current Wanted player |
| 19:24.51 | Bounty | Assassin makes sense |
| 19:25.39 | Bounty | Also, did u want to take me up on that $20 offer? If you can name the song used in the cinematic ill give u 20 lol |
| 19:25.46 | Bounty | not name |
| 19:25.50 | Bounty | i meant, name where its from |
| 19:26.06 | JademusSreg | For all I know, it could be from Kill Bill. |
| 19:26.19 | Bounty | well, heres the thing |
| 19:26.28 | Bounty | I was crossing my fingers |
| 19:26.31 | Bounty | and ur right |
| 19:26.32 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:26.34 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 19:27.15 | Mexa | Hey, did ou hear about the Valve console rumour? |
| 19:27.35 | Bounty | it wont happen |
| 19:27.53 | Bounty | u would be better off just building your own PC |
| 19:28.16 | JademusSreg | Yeah. Not interested in consoles. I'd sooner place my best on some new kind of network node for a wireless mesh internet. |
| 19:28.17 | Mexa | That's the thing. their console is a PC |
| 19:28.24 | JademusSreg | *my bet |
| 19:28.24 | Mexa | More or less |
| 19:29.02 | Taintedwisp | I like consoles they have a different feel to them |
| 19:29.04 | Bounty | thats why they wont do it though |
| 19:29.07 | Taintedwisp | but i like COmputer gaming too |
| 19:29.08 | Mexa | http://kotaku.com/5890275/is-this-a-photo-of-valves-rumored-console |
| 19:29.08 | Bounty | bc it makes no sense |
| 19:29.13 | Bounty | valve is smarter than that |
| 19:29.14 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:29.18 | Mexa | Also relevant: http://kotaku.com/steambox/ |
| 19:29.33 | Taintedwisp | I refuse Valves console.... Because they are talking about reading blood pressure heart beat and all this other garbage |
| 19:29.51 | JademusSreg | Saw it. That's why I placed my bet on a WMINN. |
| 19:29.55 | Taintedwisp | i want ot pick up a controller play for 30 minutes and go do something else |
| 19:30.33 | JademusSreg | I don't have any interest in consoles. |
| 19:31.18 | Mexa | Taintedwisp, as long as that i optional, I don't see why not. That is an excellent way to assist in developing video games. |
| 19:31.24 | Taintedwisp | i dont care who wants to lie about it... but some games are better on console, like GTA or Devil May Cry |
| 19:31.41 | Taintedwisp | but on the other hand some games are better on pc |
| 19:32.19 | Bounty | thats a common delusion Taintedwisp |
| 19:32.19 | JademusSreg | I'm not interested because the expense of diversification exceeds what I am willing to spend. |
| 19:32.22 | Bounty | they are not better on consoles |
| 19:32.26 | Bounty | they are better on a controller |
| 19:32.30 | Bounty | which u can also use on ur PC |
| 19:32.33 | Bounty | =P |
| 19:32.46 | Taintedwisp | Mexa the only thing with that, that worries me is the fact that some dumbass will use the tech to make a doctors game and people will actually listen to and die from not using a real doctor |
| 19:32.55 | JademusSreg | So "platform exclusives" may as well not exist in my little microcosm. |
| 19:33.08 | Mexa | Taintedwisp, huh? |
| 19:33.09 | Taintedwisp | I hate controllers on pc, they rarely feel right |
| 19:33.16 | Bounty | lol? |
| 19:33.23 | Bounty | they are the same exact controllers |
| 19:33.28 | Taintedwisp | I know |
| 19:33.29 | Mexa | There's games which feels better with a controller, there's games which do not |
| 19:33.31 | Bounty | plug ur 360 or PS# controller |
| 19:33.33 | Bounty | into ur PC |
| 19:33.33 | Taintedwisp | But theres a different feel |
| 19:33.34 | Bounty | boom |
| 19:33.37 | Bounty | ... |
| 19:33.40 | Bounty | da fuck |
| 19:33.41 | Mexa | A racing game for instance, and a platformer is conveninent with a gamepad. |
| 19:33.46 | Taintedwisp | i use a wired Xbox controller on pc, it just feels different |
| 19:33.53 | Mexa | While a fps is shit with a gamepad. |
| 19:33.54 | Bounty | bc its wired |
| 19:33.57 | Bounty | thats about it |
| 19:34.03 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:34.07 | Mexa | *an |
| 19:34.09 | Taintedwisp | not really |
| 19:34.19 | Taintedwisp | i used my PS3 controller on computer it s wireless and it sucked too |
| 19:34.28 | Taintedwisp | it was worse though |
| 19:34.42 | Taintedwisp | TO ME, it feels awkward |
| 19:35.01 | Bounty | there is something wrong with u brah |
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| 19:35.05 | Taintedwisp | now FPS, for the most part, feel better on Computer |
| 19:35.07 | Bounty | bc there is physically no differance |
| 19:35.08 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:35.10 | Mexa | It also depends on thegame and it's support and proper or improper key bindings. |
| 19:35.12 | Bounty | so its just in your head |
| 19:35.17 | Mexa | its |
| 19:35.32 | Taintedwisp | not really |
| 19:35.42 | Taintedwisp | the drivers I suppose make the controller feel sluggish on computer |
| 19:35.43 | Mexa | Hey Jademus |
| 19:35.46 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 19:36.03 | Mexa | Beier said he wanted to focus on other thngs thn nested structs and namespaces for now :< |
| 19:36.40 | Bounty | meh well i use the Razer Onza for a controller and it feels fine |
| 19:36.43 | Mexa | But I really hope he does add it.. |
| 19:38.32 | JademusSreg | What "other things"? |
| 19:38.52 | Taintedwisp | I've tried a few different(cheap) controllers and they just dont feel right I had a logitech(crappy) being used with an emulated Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 and it felt terrible. Controllers and computers for me, just dont go together. |
| 19:41.08 | Bounty | omfg |
| 19:41.12 | Taintedwisp | but i will admit that a mouse is much better for most FPS |
| 19:41.15 | Bounty | Men in Black III? for real? |
| 19:41.18 | Bounty | lolol |
| 19:41.18 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 19:41.24 | Taintedwisp | You know your going to watch it |
| 19:41.30 | Taintedwisp | just go ahead and give that one up |
| 19:41.51 | Taintedwisp | if for nothing else then just to see those worms |
| 19:42.18 | Mexa | He didn't say, Jademus |
| 19:42.29 | Bounty | i mean |
| 19:42.32 | Mexa | Oh wait, he did say |
| 19:42.34 | Mexa | "I think I will prioritize other features for now, such as being able to do reliable null checks for pointers" |
| 19:42.40 | Bounty | at first i thought Smith and Jones were not going to be in the movie |
| 19:42.43 | Bounty | but they are |
| 19:42.48 | Bounty | so i MIGHT see it >< |
| 19:42.53 | JademusSreg | Pointers. Pff. |
| 19:43.07 | Mexa | I use static pointers in my map, kind of:P |
| 19:43.32 | Mexa | But mostly for debugging atm. |
| 19:43.51 | JademusSreg | I'm perfectly comfortable having only references, srsly. I can't think of many times I've -needed- pointers. |
| 19:43.52 | Mexa | Tho, he is probably extending another part of it. |
| 19:44.06 | Mexa | Well |
| 19:44.41 | Mexa | When yo have a constant sized array, and want to create instances of it |
| 19:44.49 | Mexa | Like in vJass |
| 19:44.58 | Mexa | vJass had pointers in disguise |
| 19:45.51 | Bounty | So JademusSreg, what do u think of the name Road Assassin? |
| 19:46.15 | JademusSreg | I'm saying in general, I've never had much need for pointers over references. |
| 19:46.30 | JademusSreg | Bounty, yeah, that sounds fine. Especially with the Wanted mechanic, |
| 19:46.40 | Bounty | yeah i ditched the nemesis thing |
| 19:46.49 | Bounty | so instead ill just have all the players hunt down 1 player |
| 19:46.51 | Bounty | way to hard to code |
| 19:46.52 | Bounty | =P |
| 19:47.08 | Bounty | sounds more fun to me neways |
| 19:47.16 | Bounty | having 13 players chasing u down |
| 19:47.17 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:47.39 | Bounty | im thinking |
| 19:47.53 | Bounty | u get bonus points for killing people if you're the current Wanted player |
| 19:48.14 | Bounty | just not sure how many |
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| 19:49.10 | MasterReY | hmhmhm |
| 19:50.21 | MasterReY | jade the code is hard for someone without C experience and only galaxy GUI experience, but i tried to understand it. |
| 19:50.43 | MasterReY | so i create a new element in the gui (custom stript) |
| 19:50.53 | MasterReY | put in the function definition |
| 19:51.05 | MasterReY | void RegisterButtonForTriggerExecution (int button, trigger buttonTrigger) |
| 19:51.07 | MasterReY | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:51.08 | Mexa | http://i.imgur.com/3En7b.png Oh you, censorship. |
| 19:51.08 | MasterReY | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:51.10 | MasterReY | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:51.47 | MasterReY | and then i creatse another custom script and use the function with the identifiers of the triggers and the button integers? |
| 19:52.05 | MasterReY | i know the trigger identifiers of my triggers but not the integers of my buttons |
| 19:53.42 | JademusSreg | Don't need to know them. |
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| 19:53.57 | JademusSreg | Dialogs and dialog controls are integers. |
| 19:54.06 | JademusSreg | So you just pass them, easy. |
| 19:54.57 | MasterReY | hm |
| 19:55.25 | MasterReY | i mean i would have to use this line: |
| 19:55.35 | MasterReY | RegisterButtonForTriggerExecution (int button, trigger start4); |
| 19:55.37 | MasterReY | right? |
| 19:55.43 | MasterReY | start4 is the name of one of my 31 triggers |
| 19:55.59 | MasterReY | but what to put where "button" stands |
| 19:56.01 | MasterReY | ^^ |
| 19:56.45 | MasterReY | RegisterButtonForTriggerExecution (button, start4); |
| 19:56.48 | MasterReY | like that actually^^ |
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| 19:57.26 | JademusSreg | You just pass the button to it. Directly. Buttons are ints. |
| 19:57.58 | JademusSreg | You could event put the DialogControlCreate function there, creating it while passing it. |
| 19:58.03 | Mexa_ | Jademus, would you prefer an abstraction of integerbased types such as having dialog and dialogitem defined as types, in that custom g++ library? |
| 19:58.11 | Mexa_ | Or would you leave it as it is= |
| 19:58.23 | JademusSreg | Clarify? |
| 19:58.27 | Mexa_ | Well |
| 19:59.03 | Mexa_ | Instead of DialogSetPosition(int dialog, ...), it would allow a dialog.SetPosition(...) |
| 19:59.23 | Mexa_ | where dialog was a typedef of an int. |
| 19:59.57 | Mexa_ | dialog myDialog = Dialog.Create(...) |
| 20:00.28 | Mexa_ | or int myDialog = Dialog.Create(...)?7 |
| 20:00.50 | Mexa_ | The advantage would be for the first one, that you can use OOP principles there. |
| 20:00.56 | JademusSreg | I like the typedef version, personally. |
| 20:01.14 | JademusSreg | I forget, G++ supports polymorphism, yes? |
| 20:01.18 | Mexa_ | Mmm |
| 20:01.23 | Mexa_ | Yes I think so |
| 20:01.35 | JademusSreg | Then definitely the typedef version. |
| 20:02.31 | Mexa_ | You can also make typedefs of primitive types, and then "enrich" them |
| 20:02.46 | Mexa_ | Which is pretty much the polymorphism I suppose. |
| 20:03.12 | Mexa_ | An int will not retrieve the enrichments of a typedef based on an int. |
| 20:04.08 | Mexa_ | I would probably skip the redundant game link <-> string stuff |
| 20:04.12 | Mexa_ | Since that's just tideous. |
| 20:04.29 | JademusSreg | Yeah. Fuck "game links". |
| 20:06.05 | MasterReY | i have a long way to go, but im willing to do it ^^ |
| 20:11.33 | Mexa_ | Hmm, this is also abit odd: |
| 20:11.35 | Mexa_ | const int c_physicsDisabled = 0; const int e_physicsKeyframed = 1; const int e_physicsSimulated = 2; |
| 20:11.40 | Mexa_ | oh, silly chat |
| 20:11.56 | Mexa_ | But that the first one begins with c_ and the other two with e_ |
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| 20:31.08 | TaintediPimpWisp | No hear me boy... |
| 20:31.08 | TaintediPimpWisp | lol |
| 20:38.37 | TaintediPimpWisp | Hmmm thinking about how to continue so that I may continue work on mini chop farms |
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| 20:55.31 | QueenG | hi guys |
| 20:57.33 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 21:00.31 | QueenG | Is it possible to have a trigger/system where it copy units on location 1, and paste them on location 2 with the same exact formation? |
| 21:00.45 | JademusSreg | Sure. |
| 21:01.12 | JademusSreg | I could probably write a script for it within a few minutes. |
| 21:01.27 | JademusSreg | Why do you ask? |
| 21:02.51 | QueenG | a friend was wondering but im a novice mapper. Asking if it was just possible and I guess it is :) |
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| 21:27.29 | TaintediPimpWisp | well just 7 more missions for till I re-beat Warcraft 3. |
| 21:29.25 | JademusSreg | The Wacraft 3 campaign was Okay. The Frozen Throne campaign was Slightly Better Than Okay. Most missions were all rhythm, no hook. |
| 21:29.57 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ashamed (43874626@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.135.70.38) |
| 21:30.08 | JademusSreg | Compared to Command & Conquer campaigns, which barely had rhythm, to say nothing of the near complete lack of hooks. |
| 21:30.11 | Ashamed | i love wehn i get customers that tell me they have been trying for days to get rid of a virus |
| 21:30.17 | Ashamed | and i get on their machine and get rid of it in 5 minutes |
| 21:32.31 | JademusSreg | "Hello? Customer service? I think I gave my computer herpes. I saw a doctor about it, and she said I was delusional, which is weird, because I don't even have a deluge." |
| 21:40.15 | Mexa_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngIagWjrrFU So much hate on progammers old video? |
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| 21:41.06 | Bounty | Well JademusSreg, its finally ready >< |
| 21:41.10 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 21:41.12 | Bounty | all the mechanics are in |
| 21:41.24 | Bounty | now comes the hard part |
| 21:41.29 | JademusSreg | Do the vehicles have qualitative variation? |
| 21:41.29 | Bounty | finding players |
| 21:41.35 | Bounty | yeah sure |
| 21:41.39 | JademusSreg | Bullshit. |
| 21:41.46 | Mexa_ | lol |
| 21:41.53 | JademusSreg | You don't even know what I'm saying. |
| 21:41.55 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 21:42.06 | Bounty | which is exactly why im agreeing with you |
| 21:42.14 | Bounty | but |
| 21:42.15 | JademusSreg | Which is how I knew. |
| 21:42.21 | Bounty | i was thinking about using the command card |
| 21:42.29 | Bounty | that lets you select which direction to fire |
| 21:43.06 | Bounty | watcha think |
| 21:44.00 | JademusSreg | Elaborate. |
| 21:44.10 | Bounty | 4 abilities |
| 21:44.14 | Bounty | hotkeyed |
| 21:44.17 | Bounty | Forward |
| 21:44.19 | Bounty | Left |
| 21:44.20 | Bounty | Right |
| 21:44.21 | Bounty | Behind |
| 21:44.29 | Bounty | u use them and thats the direction u fire |
| 21:44.36 | Bounty | so say someone is behind u chasing u |
| 21:44.46 | Bounty | just press the Behind Hotkey and ull start shooting behind u |
| 21:44.50 | JademusSreg | Like would you use two keys to turn the gun? Or just analog-like cardinal directions? =D |
| 21:45.05 | Bounty | there u go again |
| 21:45.07 | Bounty | making up words |
| 21:45.21 | Bounty | cardinal? isnt that a bird? |
| 21:45.40 | JademusSreg | Anyway, yes, that would add a lot more depth to the game. Still not a qualitative variant for the vehicles, but it's a good idea. |
| 21:45.41 | Ashamed | and a baseball team. |
| 21:45.57 | Bounty | well im putting things on hold for now |
| 21:46.04 | Bounty | until we can test |
| 21:46.07 | Bounty | like, a real test |
| 21:46.14 | Bounty | as many players we can gather up |
| 21:46.28 | Bounty | which will prolly end up being myself and you |
| 21:46.35 | Bounty | possibilty not even you |
| 21:47.09 | JademusSreg | Naw. Better to wait to test until you add more stuff. Testing each and every iteration is tedious. |
| 21:47.40 | Bounty | which is exactly why im doing it lol |
| 21:48.02 | Bounty | i just hope i dont have to wait until the weekend |
| 21:48.07 | Bounty | to find enough ppl |
| 21:48.09 | JademusSreg | Not saying it shouldn't be done, but rather I personally do not want to test every single iteration. So implement the cardinal pew pewz. |
| 21:48.15 | Ashamed | oh it aint ever going to be finished bounty |
| 21:48.19 | Ashamed | its on hold forever |
| 21:48.24 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 21:48.44 | Bounty | we havent even tested how it plays until load though jade |
| 21:48.47 | Bounty | so i need to test that lol |
| 21:49.31 | Bounty | wonder how many people will notice the kill bill music at the end though >< |
| 21:49.59 | JademusSreg | People with a hardon for Tarantino. |
| 21:54.40 | Mexa_ | ... So apparantly, the egg that I was frying for dinner today had two egg yolks inside it :o |
| 21:57.37 | QueenG | simple sc2 setting question: what does vertical sync do? |
| 21:58.09 | Mexa_ | It syncs the games rendering with the screen |
| 21:58.39 | Mexa_ | It means that your game will run more slowly, capped at 60fps |
| 21:58.58 | Mexa_ | With potential of mouse movement delay in the menu and while playing |
| 21:59.13 | QueenG | i see |
| 21:59.34 | Mexa_ | Have you played any game which has vertical tearing moving upwards the screen before? |
| 21:59.58 | QueenG | i think so |
| 22:00.00 | Mexa_ | That's when vsync is not enabled, allowing the game to run in a framerate not syncronized to the display. |
| 22:00.29 | Mexa_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tearing_(simulated).jpg |
| 22:00.50 | QueenG | aah i understand |
| 22:01.10 | Mexa_ | Though, I tend to not see the tearing that much. If you don't as well, then I recommend it to be disabled as default. |
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| 22:28.05 | ClayMuffin | if anybody need players for testing purpose... I feel like doing it |
| 22:28.34 | ClayMuffin | Hello everybody, btw :) |
| 22:36.15 | QueenG | yea thanks Mex_ |
| 22:36.17 | QueenG | cya guys |
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| 23:18.08 | SoulTaker916_ | jadee |
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| 23:24.59 | Bounty | >< |
| 23:25.14 | Bounty | JademusSreg |
| 23:25.19 | Bounty | gather people to test >< |
| 23:33.02 | SoulTaker916_ | damn |
| 23:33.26 | JademusSreg | I'm eating dinner. |
| 23:33.33 | JademusSreg | So consider me afk. |
| 23:34.08 | SoulTaker916_ | i need bank tutorial |
| 23:34.10 | SoulTaker916_ | LINK ME!!! |
| 23:34.11 | SoulTaker916_ | :P |
| 23:34.15 | SoulTaker916_ | thanks for responding |
| 23:34.17 | SoulTaker916_ | take ur time |
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| 23:43.50 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 23:44.02 | Bounty | u know i have not won a single game of my own map JademusSreg |
| 23:44.05 | Bounty | i always lose |
| 23:44.08 | Bounty | like.. REALLY bad |
| 23:44.14 | SoulTaker916_ | lol |
| 23:44.16 | SoulTaker916_ | jade |
| 23:44.20 | SoulTaker916_ | how do i check banks |
| 23:44.23 | SoulTaker916_ | for authenticity |
| 23:44.29 | JademusSreg | So did the developers of Contra. |
| 23:45.00 | Bounty | help me gather more players JademusSreg >< |
| 23:45.35 | JademusSreg | Ah. That's fairly simple. I assume you're not using encryption, so it's just a matter of calling |
| 23:45.36 | JademusSreg | native bool BankVerify (bank b); |
| 23:46.00 | SoulTaker916_ | yes |
| 23:46.03 | SoulTaker916_ | thats the command |
| 23:46.08 | SoulTaker916_ | u can ecrypt these files? |
| 23:46.18 | SoulTaker916_ | u send ut though a special self made encryptor? |
| 23:47.05 | JademusSreg | Naw, you can encrypt the content. Like that library on mapster gives you that functionality. |
| 23:47.26 | SoulTaker916_ | oh i need a library |
| 23:47.36 | JademusSreg | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/trigger-libraries/5091-library-starcode-v1-4/ |
| 23:47.46 | SoulTaker916_ | but thats only pratical if i put somthing sensitive in the bank right? |
| 23:47.52 | JademusSreg | Bounty, how do you mean? =D |
| 23:48.01 | Bounty | idk |
| 23:48.03 | Bounty | call your friends |
| 23:49.14 | SoulTaker916_ | 10<SoulTaker916_> 01but thats only pratical if i put somthing sensitive in the bank right?01 |
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| 23:50.52 | JademusSreg | Come on. I'm an often pedantic, self-interested egomaniac whose disinterest in other people besides their overt utility borders on sociopathy. What makes you think I would have friends? =D |
| 23:51.14 | SoulTaker916_ | u ahve me... |
| 23:51.18 | Bounty | idk |
| 23:51.19 | SoulTaker916_ | ur the only nice one here |
| 23:51.24 | Bounty | u cant round up some photon cycle fans? |
| 23:51.25 | SoulTaker916_ | everyone makes fun of me |
| 23:51.40 | JademusSreg | I suppose I could ask, sure. |
| 23:51.43 | SoulTaker916_ | and hurts my feelings |
| 23:51.50 | JademusSreg | Did you implement the direction-shooty-thing? |
| 23:51.56 | Bounty | no |
| 23:51.59 | Bounty | i told u my plans lol |
| 23:52.15 | JademusSreg | I forgot what they were. |
| 23:52.24 | Bounty | test a real game |
| 23:52.28 | Bounty | then continue development |
| 23:52.40 | JademusSreg | Ah. You're doing focus group shit. |
| 23:52.56 | JademusSreg | Alright. I'll ask. |
| 23:57.31 | JademusSreg | Bounty, I have one person asking for an invite. |
| 23:57.43 | Bounty | well we need more than that >< |
| 23:57.46 | Bounty | atleast 8-10 |
| 23:58.25 | JademusSreg | People are fickle. Invite while you have the opportunity, before the person changes its mind. |
| 23:58.26 | JademusSreg | Haha |
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