| 00:03.03 | AlphA_VsT | go play minecraft :P |
| 00:03.08 | AlphA_VsT | lololol |
| 00:48.54 | Ashamed | almost time to go home >< |
| 00:51.11 | AlphA_VsT | oh yeah |
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| 01:16.29 | pirate | how do I make a behavior that gradually wears off using stacks |
| 01:16.40 | pirate | specifically, how to only remove 1x stack periodically |
| 01:17.04 | pirate | as the Remove Behavior effect appears to remove all stacks |
| 01:17.07 | JademusSreg | I've managed to crash the game trying to do that. |
| 01:17.42 | pirate | does that it mean I should just do it via script? |
| 01:17.52 | AlphA_VsT | you jsut need to set the duration of the behavior dont you? |
| 01:18.28 | pirate | I figured that would remove all stacks as well |
| 01:18.28 | pirate | sec |
| 01:20.13 | AlphA_VsT | you have to set the refresh effect other wise it would only stack once |
| 01:21.24 | pirate | right |
| 01:21.26 | pirate | it stacks up fine |
| 01:21.36 | pirate | it just doesnt detiorate right |
| 01:21.43 | AlphA_VsT | and then you set the effect as the thing that gets removed |
| 01:22.58 | AlphA_VsT | so you have have 20 effects that will expire when for how ever long you set it to |
| 01:25.22 | pirate | eh, I think I got it working enough |
| 01:25.23 | pirate | tnaks |
| 01:26.07 | AlphA_VsT | welcome |
| 01:26.15 | AlphA_VsT | hopefully |
| 01:53.54 | AlphA_VsT | ... |
| 02:36.10 | Vailreth | hmm |
| 02:37.33 | AlphA_VsT | ? |
| 02:41.17 | Vailreth | was just testing to see if my window is still updating |
| 02:42.53 | JademusSreg | is looking for an elegant solution to getting a weapon's remaining cooldown. |
| 02:43.17 | JademusSreg | I'm surprised by the lack of documentation on this subject. |
| 02:43.53 | Vailreth | what are you trying to do Jademus? |
| 02:44.29 | JademusSreg | Get a weapon's remaining cooldown. |
| 02:44.49 | JademusSreg | That is to say, the time remaining until it becomes available. |
| 02:45.01 | Vailreth | ah |
| 02:45.24 | Vailreth | i dont think the editor and game can do that yet |
| 02:45.32 | JademusSreg | Perhaps. |
| 02:45.42 | JademusSreg | Still, I require it. |
| 02:46.15 | Vailreth | i need to display the charge count of the damage response of a behavtior.. and that dosent work |
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| 02:49.06 | AlphA_VsT | is it possible to make a light for low quality :P |
| 02:49.32 | JademusSreg | Doubt it. I expect that is precisely the point of playing on low. |
| 02:51.13 | AlphA_VsT | I KNOW |
| 02:51.20 | AlphA_VsT | but sigh :P |
| 02:55.56 | AlphA_VsT | i just need to fake it... |
| 02:59.56 | JademusSreg | UnitGetCooldown (unit inUnit, string inCooldown); seems like it should work, but refuses. |
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| 03:51.27 | AlphA_VsT | i need team color civilians :D |
| 03:52.19 | AlphA_VsT | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-02-20%20at%207.50.43%20PM.png editor SS but yeah :p |
| 03:52.48 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 03:52.57 | AlphA_VsT | ? |
| 03:53.11 | JademusSreg | Model edit, add a team color material. |
| 03:53.27 | JademusSreg | And try not to mess up the wrap. =D |
| 03:53.31 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 03:53.48 | AlphA_VsT | yeah but for that i need to get on my pc and insatll 3dmax |
| 03:53.50 | AlphA_VsT | and sc2 |
| 03:54.06 | AlphA_VsT | and the tools to do everything |
| 03:58.17 | JademusSreg | "Would you rather have two dozen different tools or a few situationally versatile tools? Good design gives you less, and allows you to do more." =D |
| 04:02.42 | AlphA_VsT | 0.o |
| 04:03.09 | JademusSreg | You mentioning the word "tools" reminded me of that quote. |
| 04:03.10 | AlphA_VsT | i dont think they have a photoshop sc2 model editor :P |
| 04:03.47 | AlphA_VsT | it would be nice :D and i could do the textures and the importing and exporting and save everything |
| 04:04.02 | JademusSreg | Haha, it would be convenient. |
| 04:04.39 | JademusSreg | Though that quote was made in regard to designing gameplay mechanics, I suppose it has a broader application. |
| 04:04.51 | AlphA_VsT | yeah it does |
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| 04:14.17 | JademusSreg | The PennyArcade interview with Gabe Newell is neato. You can practically hear his broken, disjointed meter as he speaks, tangents and caveats flitting off as a damp box of bottle rockets. |
| 04:14.58 | AlphA_VsT | what did he do? |
| 04:16.20 | JademusSreg | He talked about stuff. It's his meter and idiosyncrasies that were particularly striking. |
| 04:17.01 | JademusSreg | Starting a sentence, interrupting it to clarify or correct or depart from its thread entirely. |
| 04:17.14 | JademusSreg | Use of "so", "you know |
| 04:17.16 | JademusSreg | " |
| 04:17.40 | JademusSreg | Read very naturally, a direct transcription. |
| 04:18.06 | JademusSreg | http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/valves-gabe-newell-talks-wearable-computers-rewarding-players-and-whether-w |
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| 04:20.52 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
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| 06:09.09 | AlphA_VsT | rarwa |
| 06:09.13 | AlphA_VsT | rwar |
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| 07:16.01 | AlphA_VsT | ... |
| 07:23.22 | Shawn|Rawr | Who wants to discuss shoes? |
| 07:23.26 | Shawn|Rawr | :D |
| 07:27.58 | AlphA_VsT | are you a girl? |
| 07:30.25 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 07:39.58 | AlphA_VsT | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-02-20%20at%2011.37.53%20PM.png bam |
| 07:40.14 | AlphA_VsT | I need a better hide animation :D |
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| 07:41.55 | AlphA_VsT | ... |
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| 07:42.38 | AlphA_VsT | .. |
| 07:52.57 | AlphA_VsT | no one fine |
| 08:08.38 | AlphA_VsT | rawr |
| 08:13.20 | Shawn|Rawr | not a girl |
| 08:22.21 | AlphA_VsT | lol now.. |
| 08:22.32 | AlphA_VsT | what a delay |
| 08:22.55 | AlphA_VsT | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-02-20%20at%2011.37.53%20PM.png look at it now |
| 08:23.39 | Shawn|Rawr | almost invisible |
| 08:24.50 | AlphA_VsT | 50% |
| 08:25.16 | AlphA_VsT | maybe i should make 75% |
| 08:25.26 | Shawn|Rawr | Depends what you're doing with it |
| 08:29.23 | AlphA_VsT | lol that is "hiding" |
| 08:30.04 | Shawn|Rawr | So I can seak people |
| 08:30.09 | Shawn|Rawr | with an a |
| 08:30.21 | AlphA_VsT | yes always with an a |
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| 08:34.23 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
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| 09:27.24 | AlphA_VsT | ... |
| 09:58.00 | A1win | woo I think I finally figured out the logical bug that sometimes caused my AI units to stop them after unburrowing <.< |
| 09:58.33 | A1win | I was checking for pathing costs and didn't realize the unit was sometimes inside a rock after unburrowing because it got pushed there by other units |
| 09:59.15 | A1win | or actually I realized that but didn't realize to take it into account along that check as well |
| 10:01.57 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 10:02.04 | AlphA_VsT | good job |
| 10:02.05 | AlphA_VsT | ? |
| 10:02.43 | AlphA_VsT | terrain is hard :D |
| 10:03.21 | A1win | texturing it is fun with a pen tablet |
| 10:05.17 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 10:05.28 | AlphA_VsT | its not hard just lots of work |
| 10:06.21 | A1win | it's not work if it's fun o: |
| 10:12.48 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 10:12.57 | AlphA_VsT | its a lot |
| 10:13.14 | A1win | a lot of fun? |
| 10:14.49 | AlphA_VsT | a lot to do |
| 10:15.21 | A1win | is that a bad thing if it's fun at the same time? :x |
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| 10:18.05 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 10:22.59 | AlphA_VsT | it can get boring |
| 10:23.14 | AlphA_VsT | so much todo |
| 10:31.07 | AlphA_VsT | all i have so far... http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-02-21%20at%202.30.24%20AM.png |
| 10:31.58 | AlphA_VsT | forgot it was on low :P |
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| 10:34.02 | AlphA_VsT | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-02-21%20at%202.30.24%20AM.png |
| 10:34.03 | AlphA_VsT | there |
| 10:34.48 | A1win | that's the same link ;p |
| 10:35.06 | AlphA_VsT | or not |
| 10:35.06 | AlphA_VsT | i think db just went down |
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| 10:36.58 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 10:36.59 | AlphA_VsT | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/SS.png |
| 10:37.07 | AlphA_VsT | it wasnt uploading |
| 10:38.12 | AlphA_VsT | lol i can run the game on ultra as long as i dont move the camera :D |
| 10:38.21 | AlphA_VsT | well editor :P |
| 10:39.14 | AlphA_VsT | thats 5 diffrent types of grass... :D |
| 10:40.25 | AlphA_VsT | 5 grass 3 dirts lol |
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| 11:05.40 | RndmObjcts | hey everyone!... havent been on since like... october or before i cant remember... just got my pc running again xD |
| 11:10.23 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 11:10.27 | AlphA_VsT | yay |
| 11:10.37 | AlphA_VsT | FUCKING FUCK /cry |
| 11:10.40 | RndmObjcts | IKR lol. |
| 11:10.51 | RndmObjcts | i fried my motherboard and cpu O_O :'( |
| 11:10.54 | AlphA_VsT | they are making an american version of misfits |
| 11:11.06 | AlphA_VsT | need more cooling :D |
| 11:11.19 | RndmObjcts | faulty power supply :P |
| 11:11.26 | RndmObjcts | and cooling |
| 11:11.29 | AlphA_VsT | even worse |
| 11:11.53 | RndmObjcts | yea, almost lost my video card too xD |
| 11:11.59 | RndmObjcts | but its still good! |
| 11:12.10 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 11:12.25 | RndmObjcts | getting back into mapping is going to be hard xD |
| 11:12.36 | RndmObjcts | oh btw is battle.net down? i cant login xD |
| 11:13.35 | AlphA_VsT | i dont think so |
| 11:14.03 | RndmObjcts | hmmmmmmm |
| 11:15.57 | AlphA_VsT | ? |
| 11:16.06 | AlphA_VsT | i can check |
| 11:16.27 | RndmObjcts | will you please? im wondering if its my account cause ive been gone so long |
| 11:16.30 | RndmObjcts | i would appreciate it |
| 11:17.32 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 11:17.39 | AlphA_VsT | can you not read |
| 11:18.37 | AlphA_VsT | its patch day... all realms are offline starting at 3... |
| 11:18.43 | AlphA_VsT | its 3:18 |
| 11:18.52 | RndmObjcts | it doesnt say that to me D: |
| 11:18.53 | RndmObjcts | im sorry |
| 11:19.19 | AlphA_VsT | uh huh |
| 11:19.57 | RndmObjcts | no really it doesnt :( sorry man i appreciate the help. |
| 11:20.06 | AlphA_VsT | uh huh |
| 11:20.23 | AlphA_VsT | i nedd to sleep :D |
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| 12:45.02 | Mexa | http://trenchescomic.com/tales/post/the-politics-of-meal-time |
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| 14:15.46 | Flaffen | so i'm supposed to use create persistent in my chain lightning thing, so that it will keep jumping even if targets die, anyone know how i should do that? |
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| 15:22.54 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
| 15:24.08 | Mexa | http://store.steampowered.com/app/10220/ is this a joke? |
| 15:24.08 | Dresnia | The kraken? |
| 15:24.30 | Dresnia | It's out already ? |
| 15:24.44 | Dresnia | Oh, been out a while. |
| 15:25.03 | Dresnia | Nvm it ain't the old postal |
| 15:25.14 | Dresnia | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mfY6H5oqh8 watching this atm |
| 15:25.29 | Dresnia | it looks pretty good ? (Alan Wake) |
| 15:29.19 | Dresnia | Btw, how risky is it too download a game/movie from time too time? Let's say about 5~10 a month max, personal use only |
| 15:35.20 | Jum-Jum | same as downloading 1 000 movies a month |
| 15:42.01 | Dresnia | asin |
| 15:42.02 | Dresnia | no risk or |
| 15:42.04 | Dresnia | :p |
| 15:49.10 | Jum-Jum | I guess it depends on where you live |
| 15:50.10 | Jum-Jum | its really about taking down the torrent websites and people who upload. occasionally they grab people who download but its really just 'for show' and scare people from downloading |
| 15:50.17 | Jum-Jum | which doesnt really have any impact |
| 15:50.29 | Jum-Jum | i'd have bigger chances of winning the lottery |
| 15:54.15 | JademusSreg | Figuratively speaking. |
| 15:54.45 | Dresnia | Well they blocked the tpb.com url here |
| 15:54.50 | Dresnia | so I gotta use another dns |
| 16:01.24 | Dresnia | But yeah, whatever. If they don't allow us to do it legaly, I keep dling. |
| 16:01.45 | Dresnia | I pay Spotify and stopped dling music so I'll be happy to do the same for series/movies anytime! |
| 16:02.19 | Dresnia | Anyways gonna watch some tele. |
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| 16:19.38 | UloseTheGame | hey guys |
| 16:19.41 | UloseTheGame | how's it rolling? |
| 16:19.51 | Ashamed | its rolling like a trollen. |
| 16:20.25 | UloseTheGame | So do maps on the second page really take a very long time to fill? |
| 16:20.51 | UloseTheGame | aside from A Song of Ice and Fire on the third page, i just stick to sunken LoTRish nowadays |
| 16:21.34 | UloseTheGame | I used to play Mafia, but the community has sickened me just a bit more recently |
| 16:21.48 | JademusSreg | I haven't been on bnet in weeks. Or months. I forget which. |
| 16:21.54 | UloseTheGame | ah |
| 16:21.56 | UloseTheGame | yes |
| 16:22.08 | UloseTheGame | its all going to the dogs :\ |
| 16:22.23 | UloseTheGame | hey jade, get Crusader Kings? |
| 16:22.31 | JademusSreg | Dunno what that is. |
| 16:23.04 | UloseTheGame | http://www.paradoxplaza.com/games/crusader-kings-ii |
| 16:23.23 | UloseTheGame | ever play hearts of iron? |
| 16:23.36 | JademusSreg | Dunno what that is. |
| 16:23.50 | UloseTheGame | w/e, just click the crusader kings link |
| 16:24.07 | JademusSreg | But diplo games are not my thing. Even a good one takes too long to play, and I am a busy person. |
| 16:25.51 | JademusSreg | Give me the sekrit to immortality and I will play every game and watch every movie and television series, no matter how terrible. |
| 16:26.20 | JademusSreg | But short of that, I have to be selective about my time allocation. =D |
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| 16:37.15 | Ashamed | i am not feeling well today :( |
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| 16:41.13 | Mexa | Mafia has a community? |
| 16:43.03 | UloseTheGame | apparantly Mexa |
| 16:43.16 | UloseTheGame | what I mean to say is |
| 16:43.36 | UloseTheGame | the "general crowd of idiots calling themselves a community" has sickened me |
| 16:44.14 | Dresnia | JademusSreg : what keeps a man like you busy outside housekeeping/children than? I'm way too bored, I'm strongly considering to pick up some books and start learning/reading. |
| 16:44.53 | JademusSreg | Dres, my labors are manifold. |
| 16:46.10 | UloseTheGame | I just stick to LoTRish anyhoo, we really need a mapster ventrilo server |
| 16:46.28 | UloseTheGame | The main reason I like LoTRish so much is cause of the ventrilo server |
| 16:46.42 | UloseTheGame | voice chat for the win! |
| 16:47.03 | Ashamed | they made one |
| 16:47.07 | Ashamed | and it lasted for a week |
| 16:47.11 | UloseTheGame | lol |
| 16:47.24 | UloseTheGame | I even tried contributing mine |
| 16:47.35 | Ashamed | why don't you? |
| 16:47.37 | UloseTheGame | But I dont really upkeep it |
| 16:47.51 | UloseTheGame | I need to set the whole thing up again :\ |
| 16:48.06 | Ashamed | so you only have one that can hold 10 people lol |
| 16:48.06 | UloseTheGame | im off this week |
| 16:48.11 | UloseTheGame | no |
| 16:48.12 | UloseTheGame | 35 |
| 16:48.17 | Ashamed | nice |
| 16:48.21 | UloseTheGame | i got it for |
| 16:48.25 | UloseTheGame | what...4.95? |
| 16:48.28 | UloseTheGame | nationvoice |
| 16:48.34 | UloseTheGame | they give em out like candy |
| 16:49.05 | UloseTheGame | its like 20 dollars a year |
| 16:49.11 | UloseTheGame | something stupidly low like that |
| 16:49.18 | UloseTheGame | i may be exaggerating |
| 16:49.24 | UloseTheGame | but i remember thinking |
| 16:49.31 | UloseTheGame | wow...my friend pays 101 dollars a year |
| 16:49.37 | UloseTheGame | how is he not using nationvoice |
| 16:50.18 | UloseTheGame | http://www.nationvoice.com/ |
| 16:50.25 | UloseTheGame | i may have lower than 35 actual;ly |
| 16:50.28 | Dresnia | LoTRish ? |
| 16:50.47 | UloseTheGame | oh yes, Dresnia |
| 16:50.54 | Dresnia | JademusSreg : you are a weird person, in a lovely good way |
| 16:51.04 | Mexa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDMN8XKs1z0 (VGM, great Imo) |
| 16:51.04 | UloseTheGame | im into a genre called LoTRish |
| 16:51.10 | UloseTheGame | its a legacy genre from BW |
| 16:51.40 | Dresnia | Mexa and his weird music <3 |
| 16:51.45 | Dresnia | You havent changed. |
| 16:51.49 | Mexa | It's not weird :D |
| 16:52.13 | Mexa | But at least I'm recognized still:P |
| 16:52.16 | UloseTheGame | It changes with each map but the main idea is this D |
| 16:52.19 | UloseTheGame | Dresnia |
| 16:52.39 | Dresnia | *listens* |
| 16:52.53 | UloseTheGame | You start out with a faction from a book, tv show, some story, etc |
| 16:53.03 | UloseTheGame | for example, you could play War of the Ring |
| 16:53.23 | UloseTheGame | and play as elves, gondor, rohan, dwarves or fellowship on good team |
| 16:53.25 | UloseTheGame | OR |
| 16:53.42 | UloseTheGame | you could play as mordor isen or harad on evil |
| 16:53.48 | Ashamed | only 500 dollars for liftime 50! |
| 16:53.49 | UloseTheGame | in War of the Ring |
| 16:54.17 | UloseTheGame | good and evil fight to destroy each other's bases, based on settlements from the books |
| 16:54.19 | UloseTheGame | for example |
| 16:54.23 | UloseTheGame | rivendell |
| 16:54.26 | UloseTheGame | barad dur |
| 16:54.30 | UloseTheGame | minas tirith |
| 16:54.36 | UloseTheGame | and they do this using heroes |
| 16:54.46 | UloseTheGame | heroes are the main focus |
| 16:54.54 | UloseTheGame | without heroes, you cannot win the game |
| 16:55.11 | UloseTheGame | therefore you must "micro" your heroes so they do not die, but kill the enemy's heroes |
| 16:55.48 | UloseTheGame | you also have a void ray which acts like an sc1 arbiter |
| 16:55.55 | Dresnia | sounds like a bad WC3 |
| 16:56.04 | UloseTheGame | it can recall heroes and stasis enemy units |
| 16:56.30 | UloseTheGame | you also start out with a number of dropships |
| 16:56.41 | UloseTheGame | on a timer, bases spawn units |
| 16:56.59 | UloseTheGame | and you can upgrade units with race upgrade buildings |
| 16:57.10 | Ashamed | omg |
| 16:57.17 | Ashamed | we talking about lotr sitll? |
| 16:57.23 | UloseTheGame | im telling Dresnia... |
| 16:57.25 | UloseTheGame | he asked |
| 16:57.26 | Ashamed | lol |
| 16:57.34 | Ashamed | dresnia don't worry we all give him shit |
| 16:57.53 | UloseTheGame | ... |
| 16:58.28 | Ashamed | sc2 mapping is so slow :( |
| 16:58.29 | UloseTheGame | they can't appreciate that which they cannot understand :\ |
| 16:58.43 | Ashamed | no one is doing it anymore |
| 16:58.58 | UloseTheGame | its kay man :( I feel your pain |
| 16:59.22 | UloseTheGame | wishful thinking does not bring anything back though |
| 17:00.05 | UloseTheGame | all we can do is wait for HoTS, and hope that Blizzard delivers, or we can move on |
| 17:00.27 | Mexa | Oooh, someone should do Line Tower wars 7 for sc2 :P |
| 17:00.46 | Mexa | reinventing the wheel much:> |
| 17:00.52 | UloseTheGame | hey Mexa |
| 17:00.56 | Mexa | oh hello |
| 17:01.06 | UloseTheGame | want to play some wc3? |
| 17:01.27 | Dresnia | I'd love a proper LTW map though |
| 17:01.29 | Mexa | Sorry man, those days have been long over for me. I don't have it installed. |
| 17:01.43 | Dresnia | Used to be so much fun, especially the 2v2v2v2 one with the huge mazing option |
| 17:01.48 | Mexa | Dresnia, it would be played, I can guarantee that. |
| 17:02.29 | Dresnia | Yeah I just cba learning the editor just for that |
| 17:02.34 | Dresnia | Or well, learning triggers |
| 17:02.40 | UloseTheGame | i wish i had been with wc3 at its height |
| 17:02.43 | Mexa | UloseTheGame, in fact though, I rarely play sc2 these days either. But I'm playing around abit with external mod support. |
| 17:03.02 | Mexa | Testing a few ideas and stuff. |
| 17:03.03 | UloseTheGame | but wishful thinking doesn't bring anything back |
| 17:03.20 | UloseTheGame | what kind of external mod? |
| 17:03.36 | Mexa | Oh I mean, third party software |
| 17:03.37 | UloseTheGame | I'd really go for any kind of free |
| 17:03.38 | UloseTheGame | "editor" software |
| 17:03.47 | UloseTheGame | to make games with and stuff |
| 17:03.54 | Mexa | Well |
| 17:04.06 | Mexa | It's related to sc2 |
| 17:04.09 | UloseTheGame | oh |
| 17:04.11 | Dresnia | I miss my MoH:AA / CoD2 type of editors, lovely times. Seeing I'm only interested doing terrain :> |
| 17:04.22 | UloseTheGame | i'd like |
| 17:04.40 | Mexa | I'm testing out to read/write trigger files so that they can be incorporated in a custom dialog designer tool. |
| 17:05.20 | Ashamed | Omg here mexa and his dialog tool |
| 17:05.25 | Mexa | :P |
| 17:05.54 | Mexa | I know it's halted for now, but if I get somewhere with the trigger support, I might take it up again |
| 17:05.58 | Mexa | Isn't that nice? |
| 17:06.36 | Dresnia | Well the majority of the great minds already left this buggy/dodgy editor with zero support |
| 17:06.47 | Dresnia | But then again you're likely just doing it for yourself. |
| 17:06.54 | Mexa | No |
| 17:07.22 | Mexa | If I complete the tool, I would try to do it as user friendly as possible, not only for me. |
| 17:07.39 | Mexa | If that was wha you meant. |
| 17:07.42 | Dresnia | I mean you're creating the tool for the creating it part, not the result or who would end up using it |
| 17:07.58 | Ashamed | yeah he prob wont even use it lol |
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| 17:08.46 | Mexa | I would create it for A) Learning, B) get myself together and release something, C) allow people to use it, 4) Use it myself for my kart racing project I also halted |
| 17:08.49 | eimtr | who is Heral > |
| 17:09.12 | Ashamed | he is the guy that meows all the time |
| 17:09.19 | Mexa | It might be in vain, yes, but it will be a consumable product nevertheless. |
| 17:09.26 | Ashamed | It wont happen |
| 17:09.29 | Ashamed | just like all my projects |
| 17:09.37 | eimtr | yes :) but is he here, i remember he was using Heral name in this channel |
| 17:09.41 | Mexa | You're not the one to say that to me:P |
| 17:09.50 | Ashamed | do you see heral in here? |
| 17:09.51 | Dresnia | I haven't seen Heral around in a long time. |
| 17:10.03 | Dresnia | He was working on that HLW right? I did a terrain for that iirc. |
| 17:10.08 | eimtr | idk Torhal or Harl could be him so im asking |
| 17:10.11 | Mexa | ~seen SC2MapsterKitten |
| 17:10.18 | purl | sc2mapsterkitten <~Helral.EU@84.245.46.23> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 34d 1h 16m 58s ago, saying: 'try using Helral'. |
| 17:10.18 | Mexa | ~seen Helral |
| 17:10.18 | purl | helral <Helral.EU@54182E89.cm-5-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 12d 19h 46m 40s ago, saying: 'cya all ;p'. |
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| 17:10.27 | Dresnia | ~seen Nash |
| 17:10.27 | purl | nash <~nn@81-234-225-23-no35.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 550d 18h 12m 38s ago, saying: 'unless you're the best'. |
| 17:10.30 | eimtr | thanks oh L( |
| 17:10.45 | Mexa | Dresnia, Nash usually go with his identifier too |
| 17:10.50 | Dresnia | ~seen Nash|287 |
| 17:10.50 | purl | i haven't seen 'nash|287', Dresnia |
| 17:10.54 | Dresnia | HMMM. |
| 17:10.57 | Mexa | think it's 387 |
| 17:11.03 | Mexa | Or 327 |
| 17:11.06 | Mexa | something |
| 17:11.06 | Mexa | ^^ |
| 17:11.07 | Dresnia | ~seen Nash|327 |
| 17:11.07 | purl | nash|327 <~nn@81-234-225-23-no35.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 107d 1h 15m 2s ago, saying: 'Mexagreek'. |
| 17:11.11 | Mexa | lol |
| 17:11.11 | Mexa | yeah |
| 17:11.15 | Ashamed | yeah nash disapeared -.- |
| 17:11.20 | Dresnia | I got him on skype |
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| 17:11.28 | Ashamed | fucken swedes |
| 17:11.28 | Mexa | ~seen Alpha_vst |
| 17:11.29 | purl | alpha_vst <~Joeffect@c-67-188-153-243.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 5h 51m 6s ago, saying: 'i nedd to sleep :D'. |
| 17:11.29 | harl | i can't see how or why harl could be Helral |
| 17:11.30 | Dresnia | he cald me a week or 3 ago |
| 17:11.40 | Mexa | At least Alpha is back :D |
| 17:11.44 | Dresnia | and me ? :< |
| 17:11.47 | Mexa | And you :D |
| 17:11.48 | Dresnia | no one gives a care yoh |
| 17:11.57 | Dresnia | but I'm just here to talk and admire JademusSreg |
| 17:12.00 | Mexa | I said hihihi a bunch when you got back Dres :> |
| 17:12.08 | Mexa | Or somethign similar |
| 17:12.11 | Dresnia | ITS TOO LATE |
| 17:12.13 | Dresnia | THE DMG IS DEALT |
| 17:12.15 | Ashamed | i have always been >< |
| 17:12.24 | Dresnia | Anyways we should do something together Ashamed. |
| 17:12.35 | Ashamed | dresnia if i could even do something myself lol |
| 17:12.45 | Dresnia | Yeah but if you do shit together it motivates |
| 17:13.18 | Mexa | [18:07] <Ashamed> yeah he prob wont even use it lol -Back to that Ashamed, would you use it? |
| 17:13.51 | Mexa | I checken on Sbeier's one, and it actually works pretty good by now |
| 17:13.54 | Ashamed | mexa dialogs for me are easy... and is one of the things i can do well |
| 17:13.56 | Mexa | But it |
| 17:14.00 | Ashamed | so a tool will just make it better lol |
| 17:14.06 | Dresnia | I've been considering starting out a blog writing out my ideas on whatever |
| 17:14.08 | Mexa | *it's galaxy only. |
| 17:14.14 | Dresnia | Doubt it would attract readers though :> |
| 17:14.33 | Mexa | Ashamed, but still, trial and error? |
| 17:14.41 | Ashamed | yeah it blows mexa |
| 17:14.49 | Ashamed | dialogs take me a while |
| 17:14.51 | Mexa | Dresnia, if it was on the front page |
| 17:15.39 | Mexa | Ashamed, so yeah, dialogs are easy, but they are also tideous, and you know the latter thing is what a designer would eliminate |
| 17:15.50 | Dresnia | Front page of what :P |
| 17:15.57 | Mexa | sc2mapster I guess |
| 17:16.07 | Mexa | But yeah, if the community isn't already dead by then |
| 17:16.17 | Dresnia | I mean ideas on the world, humanity, war, politics and such |
| 17:16.30 | Mexa | huh, |
| 17:17.03 | Mexa | No, I guess it would not be that overly globalized and popular to write on in the news.. |
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| 17:17.20 | Mexa | Considering this is a sc2 community, not a global news station. |
| 17:17.32 | Dresnia | I'm not talking about sc2 |
| 17:17.39 | Dresnia | And hell this ain't a sc2 community |
| 17:18.05 | Dresnia | It's 4-6? active people who don't know each other talking about games and occasionally helping out another stranger with some issue |
| 17:18.12 | Mexa | Dres, I thought you were talking to me about the tool:P |
| 17:18.45 | Mexa | True |
| 17:18.53 | Mexa | Derpderpderp then. |
| 17:19.03 | Dresnia | nice save. |
| 17:19.19 | Mexa | derp is the asnwer to everything. |
| 17:19.24 | Mexa | *answer |
| 17:19.41 | Dresnia | Bose Companion 5 vs Crying Baby |
| 17:19.45 | Dresnia | dady is winning. |
| 17:19.46 | Dresnia | :-D |
| 17:19.56 | Mexa | ^¨ |
| 17:20.12 | Dresnia | I need to stop buying this expensive hardware though |
| 17:20.22 | harl | no |
| 17:20.41 | Mexa | Sup harl? |
| 17:20.41 | Dresnia | I've got like 4k |
| 17:20.53 | Dresnia | and all I do is browse /b/, fb and play some 2007 games |
| 17:20.54 | Dresnia | >_< |
| 17:21.41 | Dresnia | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV_3Dpw-BRY Great song, for a wonderfull movie. |
| 17:21.46 | harl | stares at Mexa |
| 17:22.27 | Mexa | D: |
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| 17:22.58 | Mexa | hides in an arbitrary shadow. |
| 17:23.42 | Mexa | Dresnia, Daft Punk? |
| 17:24.01 | Dresnia | no |
| 17:24.24 | Mexa | Butbut "Produced by Kavinsky & Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo (Daft Punk" |
| 17:24.24 | Ashamed | yeah we nver talk about sc2 lol |
| 17:24.26 | Mexa | *) |
| 17:24.33 | Ashamed | unless its some n00b that actually thinks we do ;) |
| 17:25.07 | Dresnia | http://i.imgur.com/0jEnG.jpg I got stuck today at work :( |
| 17:26.47 | Mexa | That's alot of mud. |
| 17:27.12 | Ashamed | n00b |
| 17:28.02 | Dresnia | Pfff |
| 17:28.08 | Dresnia | Took me 2minutes to get out |
| 17:32.58 | Dresnia | Man I really need to start taking care of my body :/ |
| 17:33.08 | Dresnia | I'm heavy and a smoker, makes you so lazy |
| 17:35.05 | Ashamed | yeah me too |
| 17:35.33 | Dresnia | I bought a jumping rope |
| 17:35.47 | Dresnia | but it turns out you gotta unpack and use it before it helps |
| 17:35.53 | Dresnia | why did no one mention this :-D |
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| 17:43.27 | AndreasGan | Hey, can i ask for help here? about triggers. I'm asking in case it's a rule. |
| 17:44.18 | Deaod|work | ask away |
| 17:44.24 | AndreasGan | k thx :P |
| 17:44.26 | Deaod|work | someone will respond sooner or later |
| 17:46.51 | Daara | 8 minute abs |
| 17:46.55 | Daara | every day dresnia |
| 17:47.14 | AndreasGan | ok, so I'm having a map where the players choose a unit (zerglings, marines or a zealot). They run around and kill the other ones. For each kill they earn a certain amount of money, When a player loses it's unit, the player "loses" the round. |
| 17:47.30 | AndreasGan | The one that has the last unit/units wins. |
| 17:47.32 | Daara | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWjTnBmCHTY |
| 17:47.38 | Daara | Best workout video ever! |
| 17:47.41 | Dresnia | Gonna bath and feed my lil daughter |
| 17:47.43 | Dresnia | cu |
| 17:48.02 | Deaod|work | so Last Man Standing |
| 17:48.13 | AndreasGan | kind of.. |
| 17:48.17 | Dresnia | PS: I'm an ex boxer, I know how to workout I'm just fking lazy :P |
| 17:48.26 | Daara | lol |
| 17:48.35 | Daara | I use to do that 8 minute ab workout every day. |
| 17:48.45 | Daara | I know it word for word. |
| 17:48.47 | AndreasGan | I just told you a rough explanation of the map. |
| 17:48.53 | Daara | And I can even mimick the song. |
| 17:49.52 | AndreasGan | Question: How do I find the winning player? I can't seem to find a way to find the owner of the last units on the map. |
| 17:50.09 | AndreasGan | May be a silly question, but I am stupid ;) |
| 17:50.37 | Deaod|work | before the round starts, add all participating players to a playergroup. |
| 17:50.48 | Deaod|work | make a trigger that runs whenever a unit dies. |
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| 17:51.08 | AndreasGan | I have a unit dies trigger(earns money on kill) |
| 17:51.10 | Deaod|work | remove the owner of the dying unit from the playergroup |
| 17:51.39 | Deaod|work | then check if the playergroup only contains one player |
| 17:52.00 | Deaod|work | that one player is the winner |
| 17:52.07 | AndreasGan | oh! nice thanks, I understand :) |
| 17:52.11 | AndreasGan | Thank you thank you :D |
| 17:54.33 | AndreasGan | How do I know how many players there are? |
| 17:54.40 | AndreasGan | I won't to be max 6 in lobby |
| 17:54.46 | AndreasGan | but what if someone starts with 4? |
| 17:56.28 | Deaod|work | there should be a condition like (Player <Number here> is active) |
| 17:56.45 | AndreasGan | kk thx |
| 17:57.04 | Deaod|work | which just means theyre actually playing |
| 17:57.27 | Deaod|work | someone with a bit more experience with the editor would be better suited to help you |
| 17:57.54 | Deaod|work | i think hell be back. |
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| 17:57.59 | AndreasGan | so I just do, if player x is active - add to player group |
| 17:58.05 | AndreasGan | ? |
| 17:58.16 | Deaod|work | yes, you loop over every possible playernumber |
| 17:59.18 | AndreasGan | with forever? |
| 17:59.23 | AndreasGan | i mean, repeat |
| 18:00.11 | Deaod|work | hm? |
| 18:00.35 | Deaod|work | before a round starts, you loop over every playernumber once. |
| 18:00.42 | AndreasGan | How do I loop over every possible playernumber |
| 18:01.00 | Deaod|work | For Integer From A to B ... |
| 18:01.19 | AndreasGan | is it for in starcraft map editor!? oh, then sorry xD |
| 18:01.48 | Deaod|work | theres also something like pick each |
| 18:02.03 | Deaod|work | but i wouldnt recommend using that one, since it cant be nested |
| 18:04.26 | AndreasGan | would this work? |
| 18:04.30 | AndreasGan | (Status of player 1) == Unused |
| 18:04.46 | AndreasGan | if of course |
| 18:05.39 | Deaod|work | == Playing would be better i think |
| 18:05.55 | Deaod|work | anyway, ill be back in an hour |
| 18:06.01 | AndreasGan | kk, but I also noticed there is already a player group for active players |
| 18:06.22 | AndreasGan | Cant i just set my variable to equal it? |
| 18:06.54 | Deaod|work | that would be a question for those who know more about triggers than i do. |
| 18:06.58 | Deaod|work | anybody? |
| 18:07.10 | AndreasGan | kk =X |
| 18:07.30 | AndreasGan | np, thanks anyway :) |
| 18:08.01 | Ahli | rotating a dialog item makes it ignore dialog borders :X so I have to rotate it in a picture editor :X |
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| 18:22.38 | Ashamed | ahhh |
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| 18:25.54 | JademusSreg | How to DoSomething with playergroups: http://pastebin.com/xaMmzQGL |
| 18:27.30 | eimtr | can any1 tell me.. how do I make a bank with just 1 section to load for a specific player in Bnet no matter if he's player 2 or next time he's player 3 slot |
| 18:27.56 | eimtr | like Sotis? And other games |
| 18:28.21 | Scorp_ | it is made like that by default |
| 18:29.15 | eimtr | I mean, let's say I save for player 1 in Section 1, for player 2 in Section 2 Player 3 in Section 3 - each bank saved on each player's PC has the stats just for him |
| 18:29.59 | eimtr | and if player 1 has saved Section 1 and next time player 1 is actually player 2 slot and it loads the section 2 for him while it must load his Section 1 no matter if hes |
| 18:30.03 | eimtr | player 4 or plaer 10 |
| 18:31.07 | eimtr | so it's like I need to load the Bank with section 'Current section name of bank located on his PC' and save bank also 'on Current secton name of this player's bank file' |
| 18:31.18 | eimtr | which has no trigger |
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| 18:45.25 | Demonette | Howdy SC2mapster! =D |
| 18:45.31 | Demonette | Hi Xara |
| 18:45.49 | Demonette | ancient keeper of this channel |
| 18:46.22 | Demonette | oh an liliana and dresnia... mmmhh and Jum Jum |
| 18:47.03 | Demonette | mmmhh i seen a1win ...puu... no idea if i know anybody else |
| 18:47.17 | Demonette | Anything cool in progress at the moment? |
| 18:51.30 | Demonette | so no one is for taking... =( |
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| 18:56.43 | Demonette | mmhh |
| 19:01.13 | Jum-Jum | hi Demonette |
| 19:01.19 | Demonette | Hellow! =D |
| 19:01.21 | Jum-Jum | It's funny because I re-entered this channel about a week ago |
| 19:01.26 | Jum-Jum | How long have you been 'gone'? =P |
| 19:02.06 | Demonette | Uhm i don't know about uhm lets say half a year as i tried to reenter starcraft modding at that time |
| 19:02.32 | Jum-Jum | so about the same time as me |
| 19:02.37 | Demonette | Now i just feeling like making some icons =) so i necroed my thread XD just to throw out a few icons |
| 19:02.41 | Demonette | Seems like |
| 19:02.55 | Demonette | there just was no time to do some serious SC stuff |
| 19:05.33 | Demonette | So how are your projects doing? |
| 19:06.22 | Jum-Jum | i havent been doing anything |
| 19:06.46 | Jum-Jum | I just ended up doing a bunch of test maps for myself to learn things |
| 19:07.02 | Demonette | Ohw.. =/ sad to hear |
| 19:07.05 | Jum-Jum | Its just too much work for one man and it's difficult to get people with the skills to help you out |
| 19:07.13 | Jum-Jum | Becuase they would rather work on their own projects |
| 19:07.22 | Demonette | Mmmhh.. |
| 19:09.33 | Demonette | sadly i can only do good graphics... as my maps never turned out to be any good... Not sure if i could help... damn i would like it a lot to help someone with a good project... but communication and motivation/deadlines weren't choosen any good... |
| 19:09.47 | Demonette | there just had to be some management i guess |
| 19:10.15 | Demonette | didn't you tried to make some campaign melee maps? |
| 19:11.33 | Jum-Jum | I had one semi-working |
| 19:11.47 | Jum-Jum | but I realized finishing it would be pointless because I learned what could be improved from it |
| 19:11.50 | Jum-Jum | and just make a new one instead |
| 19:12.13 | Demonette | =S |
| 19:12.15 | Jum-Jum | For ex. I had multiple computer opponents and it would be better to just have a few |
| 19:12.22 | Demonette | sure you can recycle it? |
| 19:12.27 | Jum-Jum | And the map layout kinda "crashed" towards the end |
| 19:12.30 | Jum-Jum | I suppose I could |
| 19:13.21 | Jum-Jum | Also found some good inspiration from other games now that I could throw into a new map. I need a battleplan before I start to work on a new coop map. |
| 19:13.26 | Demonette | Not sure if i ever showed you my own ones... sadly on of it isn't localized and the other on is just a random melee map with "special effects" |
| 19:13.37 | Demonette | hehe nice nice =) |
| 19:13.50 | Jum-Jum | Only the Team Melee map |
| 19:14.05 | Demonette | at least it sounds like you have a plan |
| 19:14.24 | Jum-Jum | I'll try to create something when I have the interest |
| 19:14.35 | Jum-Jum | Any word on when the expansion is coming out for SC2? |
| 19:14.49 | Demonette | Uh... the expansion |
| 19:14.56 | Demonette | i'm so hypo about it... |
| 19:15.46 | Jum-Jum | I'm not hyped at all... :| |
| 19:17.24 | Demonette | thats good i guess.. the problem is that i'm so in love with zerg |
| 19:17.52 | Demonette | i just could lay around in the spawning pool all day |
| 19:18.08 | Jum-Jum | me too |
| 19:18.38 | Jum-Jum | when I played 1on1 ... which was like in the beta and very little when the game came out |
| 19:18.44 | Jum-Jum | I just tried to macro up and swarm as much as possible |
| 19:19.13 | Demonette | =) |
| 19:19.27 | Demonette | mmmhh... so way aren't you hyped then? XD not loving the new units? |
| 19:19.34 | Demonette | well swarm host sucks... true thing |
| 19:19.46 | Jum-Jum | I'm more excited about diablo 3 and guild wars 2 tho |
| 19:20.16 | Jum-Jum | the zerg units are definatly the coolest so far ^^ |
| 19:21.06 | Demonette | Oh yeah |
| 19:21.20 | Demonette | damn i will be so out of money this year... XD |
| 19:22.49 | Demonette | were you US or EU? |
| 19:22.57 | Dresnia | Who wants to see my irl with my daughter ? /flex |
| 19:25.01 | Demonette | Uhm... what? XD |
| 19:25.10 | Dresnia | Nvm, no one I know here atm :p |
| 19:28.04 | AndreasGan | I don't understand the for loop at the starcraft editor, Why/what should I enter an int var?(General - For each integer <int var> from 1 to 6 with increment 1, do (Actions) ) |
| 19:28.07 | Demonette | I didn't even understand =) |
| 19:28.34 | Demonette | cause galaxy can't init new variable inside your trigger |
| 19:28.49 | Demonette | so you have to give it an variable it can use |
| 19:29.02 | AndreasGan | I gave it a local variable called int |
| 19:30.05 | AndreasGan | didnt get the result i wanned. My action: Player - Modify player (Picked integer) Terrazine: Add 10 |
| 19:30.23 | Jum-Jum | bbl |
| 19:30.49 | Demonette | bbl? |
| 19:31.09 | AndreasGan | Be back later.. |
| 19:31.22 | Demonette | Ooohh i understand =) |
| 19:31.25 | AndreasGan | xD |
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| 19:31.44 | Demonette | =P |
| 19:31.46 | AndreasGan | Am I doing something wrong? |
| 19:32.01 | AndreasGan | I don't get terrazine |
| 19:32.38 | Demonette | what's in the for each loop? |
| 19:33.00 | AndreasGan | I already said: Player - Modify player (Picked integer) Terrazine: Add 10 |
| 19:33.12 | Demonette | that what's inside the loop |
| 19:33.24 | Demonette | oh wait |
| 19:33.44 | Demonette | you did for each int from 1 to 6? |
| 19:33.47 | AndreasGan | xD |
| 19:34.00 | Ashamed | erg |
| 19:34.08 | Ashamed | i dont like being sick. |
| 19:34.17 | AndreasGan | yeah |
| 19:34.19 | AndreasGan | General - For each integer int from 1 to 6 with increment 1, do (Actions) |
| 19:34.19 | AndreasGan | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:34.19 | AndreasGan | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:34.26 | Demonette | sicky sicky isn't good anytime |
| 19:34.45 | Demonette | i dislike having the german editor =( |
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| 19:34.52 | AndreasGan | lol |
| 19:35.33 | Demonette | yeah.. stuff is named stupid over here.. but i don't understand how blizz can do a "for each" loop while it is only a "for" loop |
| 19:35.57 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v ProzaicMuze] by ChanServ |
| 19:35.58 | Demonette | or maybe it's the other way around... |
| 19:36.09 | Demonette | Let me start my stupid emulated editor XD XD |
| 19:36.59 | Demonette | do you want a tea ashamed? |
| 19:37.36 | AndreasGan | x) |
| 19:37.43 | Ashamed | lol |
| 19:37.55 | Demonette | i have some fruit tea over here =) |
| 19:38.12 | Demonette | not spicy but hot =) |
| 19:38.30 | AndreasGan | Anyone? |
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| 19:38.57 | JademusSreg | Pew pew |
| 19:39.07 | AndreasGan | General - For each integer int from 1 to 6 with increment 1, do (Actions) |
| 19:39.07 | AndreasGan | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.07 | AndreasGan | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.22 | AndreasGan | I don't get any terrazine.. Anyone see a mistake in the code? |
| 19:39.59 | JademusSreg | Picked integer isn't applicable there, is it? |
| 19:40.08 | JademusSreg | Should be Modify player (int) |
| 19:40.35 | Demonette | oh |
| 19:40.38 | Demonette | yeah XD |
| 19:40.52 | JademusSreg | But more importantly, you should be iterating across a playergroup, rather than player slots like that. More like this: http://pastebin.com/xaMmzQGL |
| 19:40.53 | Demonette | as you change the local var |
| 19:42.41 | AndreasGan | Yeah, just tested that, worked, checked te chat, you typed it x) Thanks anyways :D |
| 19:43.01 | AndreasGan | Ill try the itarate trough playergroup method |
| 19:43.57 | AndreasGan | How do I do that code? |
| 19:44.16 | AndreasGan | I can't type programming code |
| 19:44.25 | JademusSreg | It's galaxy script. Don't worry about the specifics; the logical is identical between GUI and the script. |
| 19:44.33 | JademusSreg | *the logic |
| 19:47.07 | AndreasGan | Can I enter it inside "Script test" |
| 19:47.10 | AndreasGan | ? |
| 19:47.38 | JademusSreg | Like I said, just use the GUI actions to accomplish the same ends. |
| 19:48.00 | AndreasGan | kk :P |
| 19:49.44 | Demonette | =) |
| 19:52.24 | AndreasGan | thanks, worked great :) |
| 19:52.51 | JademusSreg | No problem. |
| 20:04.09 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b67HkY8TVLc <-cry your heart out |
| 20:12.00 | JademusSreg | "Your refresh rate is like ZERO!" |
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| 20:27.55 | tehbone | any ideas why my death prevented units suddenly die :( has a behavvior reducing all dmg to 0 |
| 20:29.20 | A1win | what do they die to? |
| 20:29.30 | tehbone | 10k dmg from the nuke |
| 20:30.08 | A1win | does the damage reduction work for other damage than that? |
| 20:30.45 | Demonette | mmhh |
| 20:31.08 | tehbone | yes |
| 20:31.41 | A1win | try reducing the nuke damage to a smaller value? |
| 20:31.58 | A1win | or does the nuke damage effect have the "kill" flag enabled? |
| 20:33.05 | tehbone | no kill flag |
| 20:35.40 | tehbone | okay it's only this one unit |
| 20:36.59 | A1win | does it have other behaviors on it? |
| 20:37.11 | tehbone | a cloak |
| 20:37.42 | A1win | uff... I'm out of ideas |
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| 20:39.22 | tehbone | me too |
| 20:41.45 | AlphA_VsT | you too what |
| 20:42.47 | tehbone | am out of ideas |
| 20:44.25 | AlphA_VsT | well your stupid |
| 20:44.55 | tehbone | ? |
| 20:45.00 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 20:45.14 | JademusSreg | *you're |
| 20:45.29 | AlphA_VsT | thank you |
| 20:45.44 | tehbone | strange... i guess i will just recreate the behavior.. who knows why it stopped working after a year |
| 20:47.10 | AlphA_VsT | it got tired |
| 20:47.56 | Mexa_ | Some patch might have broke it. |
| 20:48.48 | AlphA_VsT | yes |
| 20:49.29 | Ahli | tehbone, check the flag in the behavior with the minimum in it. the min damage in default damage effects is 0.5 and that's the damage they deal without the checked flag in the behavior then. |
| 20:52.20 | Mexa_ | So, apparantly I'm eating french fries again ._. |
| 20:53.48 | Mexa_ | Hey Dresnia? |
| 20:54.07 | tehbone | i recreated it and it works... chance 1, fatal true , fraction 0 |
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| 21:06.08 | Mexa_ | hm |
| 21:06.50 | Ashamed | YUCK |
| 21:08.40 | Mexa_ | que? |
| 21:09.12 | Ashamed | my stomach :( |
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| 21:16.37 | Mexa_ | Get some sleep, or put a pillow on the bed and then take a break lying on top of it. |
| 21:17.44 | Dresnia | Sup Mexa_ |
| 21:18.16 | Mexa_ | Dres, I was only going to link to some music which might be "normal" enough |
| 21:18.27 | Mexa_ | Or rather, mainstream for that matter, |
| 21:18.37 | Dresnia | lol |
| 21:18.51 | Mexa_ | Point being, my taste is not only limited to VGMs:P |
| 21:19.00 | Mexa_ | I usually like the most |
| 21:19.25 | Mexa_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuFJmf2DIfM I think the chrus is quite catchy, anyways. |
| 21:19.28 | Dresnia | I never said you did so, and I respect all tastes for anything given in life :> |
| 21:19.30 | Mexa_ | *chorus |
| 21:19.38 | AndreasGan | I'm making a map, where the players choose a unit (zerglings, marines or a zealot). They run around and kill the other ones. For each kill they earn a certain amount of money, When a player loses it's unit, the player "loses" the round |
| 21:19.58 | Dresnia | Congratulations. |
| 21:19.59 | AndreasGan | I want to make it so that a player can't just chill in a corner and wait till the others die, and then, with it's full health unit(s), attack and win the game. |
| 21:20.23 | Dresnia | So think of a system to counter that? |
| 21:21.15 | Dresnia | Fx: If a player hasnt been in combat for 15seconds, he gets a 15% debuf, if he hasnt been in combat for 30 seconds, he gets a 25% debuff and pinged/shown on the map too other players. (Just a raw example) |
| 21:21.55 | Mexa_ | Fair enough Dres :> |
| 21:22.08 | Dresnia | And Robyn isn't bad :-) |
| 21:22.23 | Mexa_ | :p |
| 21:22.43 | AndreasGan | Good idea ! =) Thanks |
| 21:23.43 | Dresnia | I'm pretty useless on technical help, but I've given tons of stupid ideas leading to great results :P |
| 21:23.57 | AndreasGan | haha x) |
| 21:24.54 | JademusSreg | That will cause players to get crushed. |
| 21:25.30 | AndreasGan | I have a revealer so that they can see each others though |
| 21:25.31 | JademusSreg | Makes more sense to incentivize the activity you want to encourage than to punish the activity you want to discourage. |
| 21:25.58 | Dresnia | Hmmm, as always, Jade Bond has a point. |
| 21:26.32 | Dresnia | Buff people if they are in combat, or reward them with a slow money income too buy certain upgrades and such, thereby motivating them too fight all the time or so |
| 21:26.53 | JademusSreg | Additionally, after crossing the debuff threshold, that will make cowardly players more cowardly, since they already have the debuff that compromises combat effectiveness, it makes more sense to avoid combat than to engage. |
| 21:26.56 | AndreasGan | how did you know I had upgrades in this game ^^ |
| 21:27.10 | Dresnia | Else it would be boring :p |
| 21:27.47 | AndreasGan | :) |
| 21:28.43 | AndreasGan | Maybe I didn't need to take up this discussion at all?... Is it balanced enough to earn money for each unit you kill? |
| 21:29.10 | JademusSreg | That certainly covers the incentive part. |
| 21:29.41 | AndreasGan | you don't lose the game if you die, it's more like you lose the round |
| 21:29.43 | Dresnia | Balance isn't easy for such maps I would say... |
| 21:29.43 | AndreasGan | or wait |
| 21:29.53 | AndreasGan | I forgot something, |
| 21:30.06 | Dresnia | You should think off how much money can be earned, and how much dmg they get for the money |
| 21:30.42 | AndreasGan | One epic fail, that woulnt help much, the guy can still idle, because he earns bonus if he wins the round |
| 21:30.43 | Dresnia | so a 25% dmg buff costing 100money item, and then a 50% one for 150money, that ain't balanced, but then again the more saving up for ones should give more % for the money |
| 21:31.07 | Dresnia | How would he win the round idling if the fighting one gets buffed? |
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| 21:31.36 | AndreasGan | whops xD |
| 21:31.57 | AndreasGan | anyone typed anything while I was dced? |
| 21:32.05 | Ashamed | I TYPED A MILLION THINGS |
| 21:32.12 | AndreasGan | cool story, bro |
| 21:32.31 | Dresnia | [22:30] Dresnia: so a 25% dmg buff costing 100money item, and then a 50% one for 150money, that ain't balanced, but then again the more saving up for ones should give more % for the money |
| 21:32.31 | Dresnia | [22:31] Dresnia: How would he win the round idling if the fighting one gets buffed? |
| 21:32.31 | Dresnia | [22:31] AndreasGan has disconnected: Read error: No route to host |
| 21:32.33 | Ashamed | Its the best story in the world |
| 21:32.36 | Dresnia | Not sure where you dc'd :> |
| 21:32.52 | Ashamed | LIEZ he didnt say that |
| 21:32.56 | Ashamed | Dresnia is lying |
| 21:32.59 | AndreasGan | xD |
| 21:33.12 | Dresnia | And we're all dying |
| 21:33.13 | Dresnia | :-D |
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| 21:34.20 | JademusSreg | If you can idle and win, that's poor design. |
| 21:34.25 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 21:34.39 | AndreasGan | Wait, I don't understand, how does he buff? dmg, HP? |
| 21:34.50 | Dresnia | You're the creator |
| 21:34.53 | Dresnia | I just give the pills |
| 21:34.56 | Dresnia | Choose wisely. |
| 21:34.57 | AndreasGan | xD |
| 21:35.06 | AndreasGan | both |
| 21:35.08 | AndreasGan | :D |
| 21:35.14 | Dresnia | Altho our Oracle is Jade. |
| 21:35.53 | AndreasGan | where would the upgrades help if you get automatically upgraded by attacking? |
| 21:36.03 | AndreasGan | and the money, for the upgrades |
| 21:36.58 | Dresnia | It shouldn't be the main thing, but should be able to motivate people to fight no? |
| 21:37.13 | Dresnia | I mean, if you make an idler 7.5% weaker, and a fighter 7.5% stronger |
| 21:37.32 | Dresnia | He has a 15% odds increasement for when he has to face this idler 1on1 at the end of this 'round' |
| 21:38.01 | AndreasGan | I see |
| 21:38.54 | Dresnia | I'm not trying too balance your map though, it's just raw ideas |
| 21:39.10 | AndreasGan | kk |
| 21:39.50 | Dresnia | Also, your map layout can handle it aswell if you would. |
| 21:40.05 | Dresnia | Make 'items' spawn randomly or such stuff around |
| 21:40.19 | Dresnia | So everyone is walking around, and picking up idlers |
| 21:41.20 | AndreasGan | ok, so idea: a zergling take 5 attack by default, an idler get 2.5 attack, and a fighter get 7.5 attack? |
| 21:41.32 | AndreasGan | is that good? |
| 21:41.39 | Dresnia | Eeerm |
| 21:41.45 | Dresnia | That sounds like a 300% buff to me |
| 21:41.46 | Dresnia | lol |
| 21:41.53 | AndreasGan | xD |
| 21:42.23 | Dresnia | idler 3.75 attack, fighter 4.50 or so |
| 21:42.26 | Dresnia | should be reasonable |
| 21:42.29 | AlphA_VsT | why dont you give the winner of the round a bonus x the mount of untis hes killed |
| 21:42.36 | AlphA_VsT | that round |
| 21:42.45 | AlphA_VsT | so if they kill nothing they get nothing |
| 21:42.48 | AlphA_VsT | problem solved |
| 21:43.23 | Ashamed | F U DNS |
| 21:43.26 | AndreasGan | Maybe I should make them respawn if he loses he's units in a battle(he wins) |
| 21:44.01 | AndreasGan | You have a point there alpha, thanks. But they get something. |
| 21:44.25 | Ashamed | PROBLEM SOLVED |
| 21:44.40 | AndreasGan | because they have to kill units to win. in the 'final' |
| 21:45.48 | Dresnia | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2I66dHbSRA&feature=player_embedded |
| 21:45.56 | Demonette | mh |
| 21:51.39 | Demonette | And there it goes... Boom =( |
| 21:53.09 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 21:54.23 | AndreasGan | so, idea: http://i.imgur.com/A8ieG.png |
| 21:54.25 | AndreasGan | will that work? |
| 21:54.39 | AndreasGan | or is it still kinda unbalanced |
| 21:54.50 | AndreasGan | or is it just a bad idea xD |
| 21:55.02 | Dresnia | wtf is this art |
| 21:55.20 | AndreasGan | just some rough stuff...:P |
| 21:55.36 | Dresnia | think it over |
| 21:55.39 | Dresnia | you'll figure it out |
| 21:55.44 | AndreasGan | Not meant to be fancy looking x) |
| 21:55.47 | AndreasGan | no, I won't |
| 21:55.48 | AlphA_VsT | it makes no sense |
| 21:55.53 | AndreasGan | Lolol |
| 21:56.10 | Dresnia | life doesn't make sense |
| 21:56.17 | AlphA_VsT | so if player b wins he gets all untis back and alluntis are at 100% |
| 21:56.21 | AndreasGan | if he loses a zergling in a battle(that he wins) he gets it back |
| 21:56.29 | AndreasGan | yeah |
| 21:56.29 | AndreasGan | xD |
| 21:56.42 | AlphA_VsT | but if you lose you get nothing back? |
| 21:56.55 | AndreasGan | if you lose, you are out of the round |
| 21:57.05 | AndreasGan | you have to watch until the end |
| 21:57.06 | AlphA_VsT | so who ever wins the first round wins the game? |
| 21:57.10 | AndreasGan | no |
| 21:57.18 | AndreasGan | after first round, there are upgrades |
| 21:57.22 | AlphA_VsT | yes because they will always have more untis then everyone else |
| 21:57.29 | AndreasGan | no.. |
| 21:57.43 | AndreasGan | next round they start over |
| 21:57.46 | AlphA_VsT | by your drawing yes |
| 21:58.16 | AndreasGan | not really |
| 21:58.20 | AlphA_VsT | player a lsoes round gets no units player b wins round gets all units back |
| 21:58.34 | JademusSreg | Reframe it. What are the progress mechanics in the map? |
| 21:58.34 | AndreasGan | yeah |
| 21:58.37 | AndreasGan | but you missunerstand |
| 21:58.38 | AlphA_VsT | player b always has more units |
| 21:58.41 | Dresnia | https://gist.github.com/1672254 |
| 21:59.25 | AndreasGan | all the players select a unit they want. Zealot Marine Zergling |
| 21:59.42 | AndreasGan | then they all fight, for each kill |
| 21:59.48 | AndreasGan | they get minerals |
| 22:00.15 | JademusSreg | What's the ratio for those units? |
| 22:00.27 | AlphA_VsT | zealot wins he has shields... |
| 22:00.39 | AndreasGan | xD |
| 22:00.43 | AndreasGan | no, not really |
| 22:00.47 | AlphA_VsT | yes really |
| 22:00.50 | AndreasGan | no |
| 22:00.53 | AlphA_VsT | yes |
| 22:00.57 | AndreasGan | no |
| 22:01.03 | AndreasGan | zerglings beat it |
| 22:01.08 | AndreasGan | because he get 1 zealot |
| 22:01.23 | AndreasGan | the other guy gets 2 / 3 / 4 zealots |
| 22:01.30 | AndreasGan | Whatever is most balanced |
| 22:01.34 | AlphA_VsT | and the zerglings have 6? |
| 22:01.47 | AndreasGan | zerglings* |
| 22:02.05 | AndreasGan | 1 zealot against 2 /3 /4 zerglings* |
| 22:02.08 | JademusSreg | What is the unit ratio? |
| 22:02.18 | AndreasGan | What do you mean? |
| 22:02.19 | AlphA_VsT | 4 zerglings dont beat a zealot |
| 22:02.26 | AndreasGan | yes they do |
| 22:02.26 | JademusSreg | Assume you have 3 players, and each one selects a different unit type. |
| 22:02.33 | AlphA_VsT | no they dont |
| 22:02.34 | JademusSreg | Who gets how many of what? |
| 22:02.39 | AndreasGan | if they dont stand into a corner |
| 22:03.14 | AndreasGan | 1 zealot 2 marines 3 zerglings? or 4 |
| 22:03.20 | AlphA_VsT | yes excatly if the zealot gets surrounded |
| 22:03.26 | AndreasGan | yeah |
| 22:03.34 | AndreasGan | but if he stands in a corner, its idling |
| 22:03.35 | AlphA_VsT | any good player wont let that happen |
| 22:03.53 | AndreasGan | hmm |
| 22:03.54 | AndreasGan | yeah |
| 22:03.59 | AlphA_VsT | even if they are not in a corner |
| 22:04.00 | AndreasGan | kinda imba |
| 22:04.15 | A1win | this design sounds awfully flawed |
| 22:04.18 | AndreasGan | what about 3 heroes? |
| 22:04.25 | AlphA_VsT | lol :D |
| 22:04.39 | AndreasGan | nah, it would just be like dota and many other games |
| 22:04.57 | Demonette | Lalala |
| 22:04.59 | Demonette | la |
| 22:05.00 | Demonette | Lu |
| 22:05.02 | Demonette | lilalu |
| 22:05.02 | AlphA_VsT | mayeb you should start smaller :D |
| 22:05.03 | Demonette | sry |
| 22:05.04 | Demonette | XD |
| 22:05.09 | A1win | at the very least, you need units that can do more than just move and attack |
| 22:05.18 | AndreasGan | yeah |
| 22:05.20 | Demonette | make overepic solo campaign misions! |
| 22:05.25 | AndreasGan | xd |
| 22:05.32 | Demonette | +s |
| 22:06.32 | AlphA_VsT | yeah move and attack... more is needed :D |
| 22:06.49 | Demonette | Burrow move |
| 22:06.51 | Demonette | is needed |
| 22:07.16 | Dresnia | Just make a map with 1 marine each, make it shoot huge rockets at insane speed, make the map 32x32 with a fancy dubstep song in the bg |
| 22:07.23 | Dresnia | Boom #1 custom map |
| 22:07.36 | Demonette | naa |
| 22:07.41 | Demonette | thats to small |
| 22:07.50 | AndreasGan | My actual idea of this map was to make kinda like.. don't know whats it called in english, but you kill the other guys, if your unit dies, you get captured by the killing player. if the killing player dies, you get free. |
| 22:07.54 | Dresnia | Make a master piece, invest 1000 hours in it, boom no one gives a damn |
| 22:07.57 | AndreasGan | with heroes |
| 22:07.58 | Demonette | and by the way wasn't there already marine arena or so? |
| 22:07.59 | AndreasGan | and upgrades |
| 22:08.01 | AndreasGan | and such maybe |
| 22:08.11 | Demonette | Mmmhh |
| 22:08.28 | AndreasGan | Anyone support that idea? x) |
| 22:08.54 | Demonette | i would do something different =) i already upgrade everywhere |
| 22:09.09 | AndreasGan | not upgrades then |
| 22:09.18 | Demonette | maybe you "units" get better the better you use it? |
| 22:09.45 | AndreasGan | did you even read my idea? |
| 22:09.56 | JademusSreg | The challenge with balancing progress mechanics in PvP gameplay is preventing snowballing. |
| 22:10.23 | Ashamed | i liek snowballs :( |
| 22:10.25 | Demonette | that image? |
| 22:10.34 | JademusSreg | In some games, like Dota and LoL and such, people will rq at first blood because snowballing can be overwhelming. |
| 22:10.58 | Ashamed | Jade will just rq whenever someone kills him |
| 22:11.10 | Demonette | XD |
| 22:11.44 | AndreasGan | Should I make what I said, or is it just a big waste? |
| 22:11.48 | Demonette | so your idea was the image? |
| 22:11.53 | AndreasGan | no |
| 22:12.00 | AndreasGan | [23:07:47] <AndreasGan> My actual idea of this map was to make kinda like.. don't know whats it called in english, but you kill the other guys, if your unit dies, you get captured by the killing player. if the killing player dies, you get free. |
| 22:12.24 | Ashamed | lol |
| 22:12.30 | Ashamed | andrea you are thinking of jail tag |
| 22:12.32 | Ashamed | or some shit like that |
| 22:12.40 | AndreasGan | yeah maybe xD |
| 22:12.48 | Ashamed | use to play it in the gym ;) |
| 22:12.51 | AndreasGan | but it's fun in games :) |
| 22:12.55 | AndreasGan | more fun* |
| 22:13.00 | Ashamed | if you do it correctly it can work |
| 22:13.18 | AndreasGan | I did it at a game called teeworlds, it's was fun :) |
| 22:13.31 | AndreasGan | correctly? how can I do it rong? |
| 22:13.33 | AndreasGan | wrong* |
| 22:13.46 | Ashamed | just balancing issues can cause it to go all wrong i would guess |
| 22:14.22 | Dresnia | Alan Wake + everything on ultra |
| 22:14.23 | Dresnia | sick shit |
| 22:14.25 | Dresnia | < afk! |
| 22:14.36 | AndreasGan | kk thanks everyone! :) g2g now |
| 22:14.47 | AndreasGan | bb x) |
| 22:14.50 | Ashamed | i would also make two modes a mode where you need to make it to the other base to free your captured team mates and then another where the player that kills you holds your soul stone or w/e |
| 22:14.56 | AlphA_VsT | alan wake is amazing |
| 22:15.03 | Ashamed | i need to dl it >< |
| 22:15.15 | AlphA_VsT | played it on xbox... |
| 22:15.57 | AlphA_VsT | beat that shit in a weekend while I was watching my friends house lol |
| 22:21.47 | AlphA_VsT | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-02-21%20at%202.20.48%20PM.png yay trees and more tress |
| 22:21.56 | AlphA_VsT | trees even |
| 22:23.09 | JademusSreg | Are You Afraid Of The Dark: The Game |
| 22:24.29 | Dresnia | Alpha whats the deal with this sc :p |
| 22:24.37 | Dresnia | poor terrain :< |
| 22:29.07 | AlphA_VsT | you don't like my terrain? :( |
| 22:30.18 | Dresnia | Goodnight <3 |
| 22:31.10 | AlphA_VsT | ITS hide and seak :D |
| 22:31.14 | AlphA_VsT | YES SEAK!!!!! |
| 22:31.23 | JademusSreg | Hide and Seaking |
| 22:31.46 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 22:31.59 | AlphA_VsT | really its seek i just yeah :D |
| 22:33.43 | AlphA_VsT | My working title is Hide and seek: dark forest |
| 22:34.57 | JademusSreg | Hide and Seek: Child Protective Services |
| 22:38.36 | AlphA_VsT | no children in sc2 sadly :P |
| 22:39.12 | Jum-Jum | "kumbaya my lord" first things i was thinking when i saw that pic AlphA_VsT |
| 22:39.13 | AlphA_VsT | they do have civilian models labeled teen but they are just beardless males :P |
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| 22:49.25 | Ahli | http://www.staredit.net/topic/14863/ |
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| 22:53.29 | AlphA_VsT | oh yeah forgot the patch was last night |
| 22:53.30 | Bounty | Hay Guyz |
| 22:53.43 | JademusSreg | Hi thar. |
| 22:53.44 | AlphA_VsT | MULE now always returns 30 minerals per trip, regardless of mineral type. |
| 22:53.46 | AlphA_VsT | wait what |
| 22:53.53 | AlphA_VsT | 30? |
| 22:54.09 | AlphA_VsT | thats fucking insane |
| 22:54.15 | Bounty | WORD |
| 22:55.12 | JademusSreg | Well, the dependency drop bug was fixed, so congrats everyone. |
| 22:55.25 | Bounty | 100% confirmed? |
| 22:55.42 | JademusSreg | That's the word on the forums. |
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| 22:56.03 | Bounty | Downloading SC2 right now, better be true lol |
| 22:56.24 | Bounty | Would be nice for a Blue confirmation |
| 22:56.54 | Bounty | Maybe Trifaction will actually be popular now |
| 22:57.06 | Bounty | Even though i deleted all the maps on my hard drive >< |
| 22:57.57 | Bounty | Also |
| 22:58.04 | Bounty | Hello JademusSreg, what have you been up to |
| 22:58.49 | JademusSreg | Some stuff that I'm not at liberty to discuss, some stuff I am. =D |
| 22:59.00 | JademusSreg | Released a damage tracker system. |
| 22:59.02 | Bounty | lul? |
| 22:59.10 | Bounty | not at liberty to discuss? |
| 22:59.17 | Bounty | Is it SC2 related? |
| 22:59.20 | JademusSreg | Working on an autonomous unit AI. |
| 22:59.39 | Bounty | done updating photon cycles? |
| 22:59.40 | JademusSreg | Well, of course it's SC2 related. Haha |
| 22:59.49 | Bounty | well hey, never know with you |
| 23:00.20 | JademusSreg | But it's not prudent for me to discuss that. =D |
| 23:00.40 | JademusSreg | Instead, I'll talk about the usefulness of the damage tracker. |
| 23:00.58 | JademusSreg | Should be useful in helping to balance content. |
| 23:01.02 | Ahli | lol bounty |
| 23:01.18 | Bounty | Why you laugh at me sir |
| 23:01.36 | Ahli | did you have so less spare memory that you had to deinstall sc2? |
| 23:01.49 | Bounty | no |
| 23:01.52 | Bounty | its called rage |
| 23:02.04 | Bounty | mostly from the drop bug |
| 23:02.17 | JademusSreg | Rage Delete =D |
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| 23:02.23 | Bounty | Exactly |
| 23:02.25 | Bounty | and of course |
| 23:02.32 | Bounty | a month or so later, the bug gets fixed |
| 23:02.35 | Bounty | So you can all thank me |
| 23:02.45 | Bounty | I think its obvious Blizzard fixed it to spite me |
| 23:02.46 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 23:02.47 | JademusSreg | I'll get right on that. |
| 23:03.43 | Bounty | Call me crazy, but am i the only one pissed that they brought back MapCraft for one episode just to promote their own map |
| 23:03.48 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:04.02 | JademusSreg | MapCraft? |
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| 23:04.20 | Bounty | yaeh you know |
| 23:04.27 | Bounty | that show they do on streamster |
| 23:04.32 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 23:04.44 | JademusSreg | I never pay asttention to that, but it sounded familiar. |
| 23:04.56 | JademusSreg | Asstension |
| 23:05.07 | Ahli | haha... true :S |
| 23:05.15 | Bounty | I've decided on what my next map will be |
| 23:05.22 | Bounty | It will be called, "Kill Phil" |
| 23:05.30 | Bounty | thats all i got at the moment though |
| 23:05.35 | Bounty | been watching Kill Bill alot |
| 23:05.36 | Ahli | can you make "I have a Zealot"-rpg? |
| 23:05.51 | Bounty | Ahli |
| 23:05.57 | Bounty | You can do whatever you want, dream big |
| 23:06.09 | Bounty | Just dont dream about success |
| 23:06.11 | Bounty | =P |
| 23:06.14 | Ahli | ^^ |
| 23:06.16 | JademusSreg | You play characters from Phillip K Dick novels and stories and try to kill the author. |
| 23:06.42 | Bounty | $20 says TriFaction gets popular now that they drop bug is fixed |
| 23:06.55 | Bounty | and i cant update it because i rage deleted everything |
| 23:07.31 | JademusSreg | $0 says people have forgotten about it. |
| 23:08.07 | Bounty | doubt it |
| 23:08.22 | Bounty | i doubt anyone that played it forgot it |
| 23:08.30 | Bounty | BUT, not many people played it |
| 23:08.33 | Bounty | >< |
| 23:09.01 | Bounty | I think that was my first actually well polished map |
| 23:14.51 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 23:14.54 | AlphA_VsT | never heard of it |
| 23:14.55 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 23:15.10 | Bounty | shame |
| 23:15.33 | AlphA_VsT | new model for getting games to the top... 15 players and never ending game |
| 23:15.43 | AlphA_VsT | dont care how crappy it is :D |
| 23:15.45 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:15.54 | Bounty | i could actually do that if i made Doodad Hunt 2 |
| 23:16.02 | AlphA_VsT | look at probes vs zeelot |
| 23:16.06 | AlphA_VsT | YES ZEELOT! |
| 23:16.14 | Bounty | Because that was what people hated most about the original Doodad hunt, it ended |
| 23:16.29 | Bounty | wtf is probes vs zealots |
| 23:16.39 | AlphA_VsT | no probes vs zeelot |
| 23:17.03 | AlphA_VsT | in like 3 days it hit #1 most played map |
| 23:17.07 | Vailreth | what the dropbug was fixed? |
| 23:17.16 | AlphA_VsT | not even that |
| 23:17.19 | Bounty | is it actually good Alpha? |
| 23:17.31 | Bounty | or just another turd |
| 23:17.37 | AlphA_VsT | its so bad |
| 23:17.41 | AlphA_VsT | it jsut never ends |
| 23:17.42 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:18.05 | AlphA_VsT | it never ends so each game is like 15x2 hours |
| 23:18.18 | Bounty | an editor with almost unlimited potential... and look at whats at the top |
| 23:18.20 | Bounty | such a shame |
| 23:18.36 | AlphA_VsT | im making hide and seek right now :D |
| 23:18.46 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:18.48 | Bounty | o rly |
| 23:19.05 | Bounty | i invented hide and seek |
| 23:19.05 | AlphA_VsT | yes yes |
| 23:19.10 | AlphA_VsT | lies |
| 23:19.13 | Bounty | in SC2 atleast |
| 23:19.55 | Bounty | What kind of hide and seek are we talking here |
| 23:19.58 | Bounty | well first of all |
| 23:20.00 | Bounty | Third person? |
| 23:20.31 | AlphA_VsT | i havent decided yet |
| 23:20.38 | Bounty | word of advice |
| 23:20.42 | AlphA_VsT | i have both |
| 23:20.45 | Bounty | do it in third person lol |
| 23:20.50 | Bounty | its the only way it really works well |
| 23:21.28 | Bounty | its honestly the main reason why my hide and seek games worked |
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| 23:21.49 | Bounty | top down etc just doesnt work because once someone sees you... thats it |
| 23:22.44 | AlphA_VsT | yeah this wouldnt work top down :P |
| 23:23.18 | Bounty | if you're a WASD hated.. RTS controls can work in third person |
| 23:23.21 | Bounty | hater* |
| 23:23.32 | Bounty | works very well actually lol |
| 23:24.45 | Bounty | I need to start a poll of people who have played my maps and see what people would rather have me make, Doodad Hunt 2 or Battlefield Egypt 3 |
| 23:25.13 | AlphA_VsT | my system invloves smart clicks for moving |
| 23:25.50 | Bounty | so RTS controls? |
| 23:27.47 | AlphA_VsT | yeah pretty muchb |
| 23:27.59 | Bounty | works pretty well in third person doesnt it? :) |
| 23:28.07 | AlphA_VsT | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-02-21%20at%203.26.42%20PM.png |
| 23:28.07 | Bounty | u have the camera facing update right? |
| 23:28.16 | AlphA_VsT | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-02-21%20at%203.27.17%20PM.png |
| 23:28.38 | Bounty | zoom it in more |
| 23:28.59 | AlphA_VsT | yeah i have not messed with it yet :P |
| 23:29.01 | Bounty | and raise the camera height abit |
| 23:29.30 | AlphA_VsT | its staying low :P |
| 23:29.49 | Bounty | thats alittle to low though lol |
| 23:29.55 | AlphA_VsT | no its not |
| 23:30.09 | AlphA_VsT | :P |
| 23:30.28 | Bounty | fine, dont listen to the guy who only makes third person maps |
| 23:30.29 | Bounty | =P |
| 23:30.34 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 23:31.04 | Bounty | so what kind of hide and seek is it |
| 23:31.06 | Bounty | just normal? |
| 23:31.15 | Bounty | team of ppl who hide and team of ppl who seek? |
| 23:31.22 | Bounty | with civillian models |
| 23:31.23 | Bounty | ? |
| 23:31.48 | AlphA_VsT | im not saying right now... |
| 23:31.57 | AlphA_VsT | its jsut normal though |
| 23:32.07 | Bounty | hey, just tryin to help u out |
| 23:32.10 | Bounty | >< |
| 23:32.15 | AlphA_VsT | 1 person is the seeker |
| 23:32.47 | AlphA_VsT | i know :D |
| 23:33.13 | AlphA_VsT | I need a better hide animation though lol :p |
| 23:33.17 | AlphA_VsT | one less shaky :P |
| 23:33.37 | AlphA_VsT | wish they had like a crouch animation |
| 23:33.50 | AlphA_VsT | and i need team colors |
| 23:36.15 | Bounty | u talkin about the civillian crouch animations? |
| 23:36.49 | Bounty | i designed an entire hide and seek map around the civillian crouch animation |
| 23:36.50 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iUe0lvJ2-I |
| 23:36.51 | Bounty | =P |
| 23:40.32 | AlphA_VsT | they have crouch? |
| 23:40.40 | Bounty | yeah |
| 23:40.45 | Bounty | watch the video |
| 23:40.55 | Bounty | let me find the point that i crouch |
| 23:41.10 | AlphA_VsT | i know they have the scared animations |
| 23:41.10 | Bounty | 0:35 in |
| 23:41.14 | Bounty | yeah |
| 23:41.20 | Bounty | why u think i made the map a horror theme? |
| 23:41.23 | Bounty | =P |
| 23:41.42 | AlphA_VsT | like i said i need one less shaky... |
| 23:41.52 | Bounty | just make it a horror theme |
| 23:42.02 | Bounty | people love that stuff |
| 23:42.04 | AlphA_VsT | like i said i need one less shaky |
| 23:42.15 | Bounty | also i wouldnt do 1 seeker |
| 23:42.36 | Bounty | i made that mistake with haunted temple, and noobs would be the seeker and the game would blow |
| 23:42.37 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:42.52 | AlphA_VsT | I understand that :P |
| 23:43.11 | AlphA_VsT | but other factors to consider... |
| 23:43.23 | Bounty | like? |
| 23:44.16 | AlphA_VsT | factors |
| 23:44.22 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:44.26 | Bounty | KAY |
| 23:45.55 | AlphA_VsT | lol maybe once i get more into it :P |
| 23:53.36 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 23:57.46 | Ashamed | if its anything like bountys map it will fucking suck |
| 23:57.48 | Ashamed | ;) |
| 23:58.29 | Bounty | Oh come on |
| 23:58.47 | Bounty | Doodad hunt was my only page 1 map, save those insults for my other 37 maps |
| 23:59.39 | Ashamed | http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/article/2012/02/21/florida-church-bans-children-to-protect-pastor-registered-as-child-sex-offender?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rhrealitycheck+%28RHRealityCheck.org%29 |
| 23:59.41 | Ashamed | WHAT THE FUCK |
| 23:59.56 | Jum-Jum | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Am7oKBD3PU |
