| 00:36.44 | AlphA_VsT | 0.o |
| 00:54.56 | AlphA_VsT | anyone knwo why my camera gets stuck on corners of ramps? |
| 00:55.13 | AlphA_VsT | when its being paned |
| 00:55.23 | ________________ | cameras are people too? |
| 00:55.55 | AlphA_VsT | ? |
| 00:57.04 | Shawn|Rawr | It flinches because it's in pane? |
| 00:57.26 | AlphA_VsT | it like it stops panning the camera |
| 00:57.29 | AlphA_VsT | its |
| 00:57.53 | AlphA_VsT | maybe it cant find a vaild point? |
| 00:58.06 | AlphA_VsT | but its not throwing an error |
| 01:05.50 | AlphA_VsT | lol wtf |
| 01:06.13 | AlphA_VsT | suddenly there is some random new map on the top 3 of custom games... |
| 01:06.16 | AlphA_VsT | but you cant play it |
| 01:06.17 | AlphA_VsT | ... |
| 01:07.42 | Motive | troll map maker |
| 01:07.47 | Daara | lol |
| 01:07.53 | Daara | it never ends |
| 01:08.01 | Daara | it just broke |
| 01:08.02 | Daara | i think |
| 01:08.05 | ________________ | lol hilarious |
| 01:08.07 | ________________ | wats the map? |
| 01:08.12 | AlphA_VsT | idono |
| 01:08.13 | Daara | pobes vs zeelots |
| 01:08.16 | AlphA_VsT | yeah |
| 01:08.16 | ________________ | lol |
| 01:08.27 | Daara | its like galaxy vampirism |
| 01:08.32 | Daara | only it never ends |
| 01:08.35 | Daara | when the zlot dies |
| 01:08.36 | Daara | it restarts |
| 01:08.40 | Daara | and a new person play the zlot |
| 01:08.46 | ________________ | is there a way to delay a validator from being read for like, a sec? |
| 01:09.11 | Daara | you could have a behavior applied that disables a behavior for a second |
| 01:09.21 | ________________ | good 1 |
| 01:09.46 | Daara | i like how this guy saw that Husky posted on my custom map forum post |
| 01:09.56 | Daara | so he took that moment to post ss's of his stuff -_- |
| 01:10.43 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 01:11.07 | Daara | which btw IMO look kinda crappy |
| 01:11.39 | Daara | pobes and zeelots working again |
| 01:11.52 | Daara | it's got the longest load time for such a simple map |
| 01:12.18 | Daara | nvm maybe that's what they just fixed haha |
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| 01:17.18 | ________________ | behavior thing didnt work |
| 01:17.18 | ________________ | D: |
| 01:31.42 | ________________ | how do i make it so that if my unit is attacked it wont stop casting its ability? |
| 01:34.40 | AlphA_VsT | is it channeled? |
| 01:34.44 | ________________ | yup |
| 01:36.27 | AlphA_VsT | idono if you can :P |
| 01:36.33 | ________________ | D: |
| 01:38.39 | ________________ | oh, didnt know the uninteruptible thing still let me move |
| 01:38.46 | ________________ | awesome |
| 01:38.51 | ________________ | i just used uninsteruptible |
| 01:48.51 | Motive | Query OK, 1379 rows affected (14 min 2.58 sec) |
| 01:48.51 | Motive | Rows matched: 1545 Changed: 1379 Warnings: 0 |
| 01:49.02 | Motive | and it worked perfectly :D |
| 01:49.24 | Motive | who needs a 1.12 db, real men use SQL |
| 01:55.54 | AlphA_VsT | that game is really shitty |
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| 04:28.12 | bdbandit | somethings bothering me, I'm ordering my boss units a "town defense" to attack the main hall, but when my units attack the boss the boss doesn't attack back |
| 04:28.27 | bdbandit | he just keeps attacking the hall |
| 04:28.33 | bdbandit | and i made him attack the point |
| 04:28.46 | bdbandit | and not the building itself |
| 04:34.44 | Stealthass | bdbandit: try adjust the attack prioroty in data editor for the units |
| 04:34.52 | Stealthass | its maybe called something else in editor |
| 04:34.57 | Stealthass | i can check, hold on |
| 04:35.28 | bdbandit | i did already |
| 04:35.36 | bdbandit | sometimes he attacks back and sometimes he doesnt |
| 04:35.46 | bdbandit | im thinking its the ai's fault |
| 04:36.04 | bdbandit | but no clue how to fix the ai into prioritizing units if its getting attacked |
| 04:36.19 | Stealthass | hm. you have the main hall with lowest priority? |
| 04:38.06 | Stealthass | try make a trigger event : "unit attacked" condition: "if unit = boss" action : "issue order unit(boss) to attack unit(attacking unit)" |
| 04:38.24 | Stealthass | but that would mess u |
| 04:38.28 | Stealthass | lol |
| 04:38.37 | Stealthass | he would never finnish one off |
| 04:38.51 | Stealthass | up* |
| 04:42.43 | bdbandit | hmm |
| 04:42.53 | bdbandit | i wonder why he just wouldnt attack area like a normal unit |
| 04:50.12 | Stealthass | "unit attacked" condition: "if unit = boss" AND (If boss is attacking HALL) THEN action : "issue order unit(boss) to attack unit(attacking unit) |
| 04:50.20 | Stealthass | that would work, only if he attacks hall |
| 04:50.49 | Stealthass | he change target |
| 04:51.31 | bdbandit | why doesnt it work by default |
| 04:51.37 | bdbandit | http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/7470/how-do-units-choose-which-enemy-to-target-in-sc2 |
| 04:51.38 | Stealthass | i dunno |
| 04:51.43 | bdbandit | they should just automatically attack |
| 05:35.27 | AlphA_VsT | if you attack to a point... |
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| 07:05.45 | AlphA_VsT | lol fucking game hit number 2 |
| 07:05.46 | AlphA_VsT | wow |
| 07:05.56 | AlphA_VsT | thats how you make games that hit the top |
| 07:06.01 | AlphA_VsT | 15 players and never ending |
| 07:06.16 | AlphA_VsT | cant even spell zealot |
| 07:06.18 | AlphA_VsT | QQ |
| 07:29.24 | Shawn|Rawr | pobes and zeelots? |
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| 08:20.39 | Thetubbygoat | ayyo |
| 08:23.34 | AlphA_VsT | lol yeah |
| 08:39.57 | Shawn|Rawr | dead chat errrrday |
| 08:40.35 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 08:42.01 | Shawn|Rawr | Did that frostwind guy ever give up? |
| 08:42.13 | JademusSreg | Seems he has. |
| 08:42.25 | JademusSreg | ~seen Frostwind |
| 08:42.27 | purl | frostwind <~fhbjsdbkj@99-73-216-198.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 54d 8h 51m 47s ago, saying: 'Anyone know the irc channel for SkyrimForge?'. |
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| 08:54.12 | Kueken | moarning |
| 08:59.19 | JademusSreg | Orly? |
| 08:59.47 | Thetubbygoat | Nope |
| 09:01.20 | Thetubbygoat | Playin Alice: Madness Returns for the first time |
| 09:01.26 | Thetubbygoat | Game is Legend of Zelda for PC |
| 09:01.29 | Thetubbygoat | Me gusta |
| 09:02.03 | JademusSreg | I'm looking for something not-terrible to wathc on netflix while I program. |
| 09:02.22 | Kueken | that narrows it to about... |
| 09:02.26 | Kueken | well, not much |
| 09:02.30 | Thetubbygoat | okokooko |
| 09:02.33 | Thetubbygoat | i gotcha jade |
| 09:02.35 | Thetubbygoat | Ip Man |
| 09:02.36 | Thetubbygoat | Ip Man 2 |
| 09:02.48 | JademusSreg | Why would I want to watch that? |
| 09:03.04 | Thetubbygoat | Have you heard of it? |
| 09:03.06 | Thetubbygoat | Freaking awesome |
| 09:03.14 | Kueken | because someone considers it not-terrible? |
| 09:03.15 | Thetubbygoat | 2nd best martial arts movie I've ever seen |
| 09:03.16 | Thetubbygoat | Wing Chun |
| 09:03.26 | Kueken | you are not being very specific there :D |
| 09:03.31 | Thetubbygoat | Well wait |
| 09:03.39 | JademusSreg | Of that I am aware. |
| 09:03.40 | Kueken | *jade |
| 09:03.42 | Thetubbygoat | Are you going to be looking at the screen, or programming? |
| 09:03.50 | Kueken | xD |
| 09:03.59 | JademusSreg | I'm going to be programming, or thinking about what I am programming. |
| 09:04.05 | Kueken | martial-arts video ears-only |
| 09:04.13 | Kueken | great entertainment indeed |
| 09:04.17 | Thetubbygoat | hahaha |
| 09:04.24 | Thetubbygoat | youll get too sucked into Ip Man |
| 09:04.27 | Thetubbygoat | So bad choice for this |
| 09:04.30 | Thetubbygoat | but add it to the queue! |
| 09:04.31 | JademusSreg | And have, in the course of my experience, not found action movies all that enriching to my life. |
| 09:04.45 | Thetubbygoat | http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/The_Universe/70143831?trkid=4504038 |
| 09:04.47 | Thetubbygoat | How about this |
| 09:05.21 | JademusSreg | What will its narration and pictures tell me that I haven't already read? =D |
| 09:05.50 | Thetubbygoat | Touche |
| 09:05.51 | Thetubbygoat | http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/Kick-Ass/70117290?trkid=496715 |
| 09:05.54 | Thetubbygoat | How about this |
| 09:05.58 | JademusSreg | Seen it. |
| 09:06.12 | JademusSreg | It fell short of expectation, sadly. |
| 09:06.24 | Thetubbygoat | Yea kinda |
| 09:06.25 | Kueken | note to self: jade = worst customer possible ;) |
| 09:06.47 | Thetubbygoat | http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/Tucker_Dale_vs._Evil/70129463?trkid=496715 |
| 09:06.52 | Thetubbygoat | ^surpassed expectations |
| 09:06.55 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 09:07.33 | Thetubbygoat | http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/District_B13/70051102?trkid=496715 |
| 09:07.39 | Thetubbygoat | Free running involved^ |
| 09:07.45 | Thetubbygoat | Parkour* my mistake |
| 09:07.53 | Thetubbygoat | http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/Invader_Zim/70202354?trkid=496715 |
| 09:08.05 | JademusSreg | I've already watched Invader Zim. =D |
| 09:08.13 | Thetubbygoat | http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/Billy_Madison/70000782?trkid=496715 |
| 09:08.21 | Thetubbygoat | Only movie adam sandler doesnt suck in |
| 09:08.48 | Thetubbygoat | Class |
| 09:08.53 | Thetubbygoat | ic |
| 09:08.53 | Thetubbygoat | http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/Robin_Hood_Men_in_Tights/70046290?trkid=496715 |
| 09:08.55 | JademusSreg | I would argue Adam Sandler is terrible in everything, even the good films in which he happens to be. |
| 09:09.15 | Thetubbygoat | how about the fighter? i thought it was good, just slow at the beginning |
| 09:09.16 | Thetubbygoat | http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/The_Fighter/70113534?trkid=496715 |
| 09:09.25 | Thetubbygoat | always will ferrel http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/Saturday_Night_Live_The_Best_of_Will_Ferrell_Vol._1/60028785?trkid=496715 |
| 09:09.37 | Thetubbygoat | or futurama |
| 09:09.38 | Thetubbygoat | http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/Futurama/70153380?trkid=496715 |
| 09:09.49 | Thetubbygoat | best leo movie ever - http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/Shutter_Island/70095139?trkid=496715 |
| 09:09.57 | JademusSreg | I have decided to never ask for anyone's opinion about anything ever again. |
| 09:10.20 | Thetubbygoat | Good standup - http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/Jim_Gaffigan_Beyond_the_Pale/70044256?trkid=496715 |
| 09:10.26 | Thetubbygoat | NO JADE YOU HAVE TO WATCH ALL OF THESE<3 |
| 09:10.32 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 09:11.02 | Kueken | unfortunately, your statement will not turn out to be true |
| 09:11.15 | Kueken | heh |
| 09:11.23 | Kueken | well, okay |
| 09:11.31 | Kueken | <- rethorical failure |
| 09:11.40 | Thetubbygoat | yep |
| 09:11.49 | Thetubbygoat | so, whatcha gonna end up watching? |
| 09:12.04 | Thetubbygoat | Beverly Hills Ninja is on youtube |
| 09:12.16 | JademusSreg | If I were immortal, I could afford to watch, play, eat, et cetera, anything suggested to me. But realizing I am on something of a time limit, I must by necessity be selective. |
| 09:12.32 | Thetubbygoat | NO WAY |
| 09:12.33 | Thetubbygoat | http://www.youtube.com/movies?fl=f&pt=fm |
| 09:12.42 | Thetubbygoat | YEAR ONE |
| 09:12.44 | Thetubbygoat | TALLADEGA NIGHTS |
| 09:12.46 | Thetubbygoat | JOE DIRT |
| 09:12.50 | Thetubbygoat | GROUNDHOG DAY |
| 09:12.51 | Thetubbygoat | all free |
| 09:12.52 | Thetubbygoat | yeee |
| 09:13.44 | Kueken | helicopter man 4 - return of the gyrof&%er |
| 09:14.16 | JademusSreg | I have this image of an obstructed sewage pipe beneath a jewelry store where, by some chance, you would expect something valuable to have gone down the crapper on some infrequent occassions. |
| 09:14.44 | Thetubbygoat | Your words are always so elequent Jade |
| 09:15.23 | Thetubbygoat | Out of curiosity, what music do you listen to |
| 09:15.28 | Thetubbygoat | I feel like your answer is not dubstep |
| 09:15.37 | JademusSreg | I don't know what that is. |
| 09:17.25 | Thetubbygoat | Oh |
| 09:17.31 | Kueken | me neither |
| 09:17.33 | JademusSreg | And when people explain it to me, they compare it to other things with which I am not familiar. |
| 09:17.36 | Kueken | sounds like electro? |
| 09:17.56 | Kueken | yep, you nailed it ^^ |
| 09:17.58 | Thetubbygoat | Just listen to that |
| 09:17.58 | Thetubbygoat | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D40Mi3_c_bg |
| 09:18.09 | Thetubbygoat | It's basically the dubstep song |
| 09:18.18 | Kueken | yes |
| 09:18.25 | Kueken | 100 points for electro |
| 09:18.32 | Kueken | whats my prize? |
| 09:18.36 | Thetubbygoat | Just don't look at the suggested videos. They have nothing to do with anything |
| 09:18.43 | JademusSreg | "It's like a really rough and jagged blippitybloop, which is like zibzibzibzop, which came from the UK, but there it's called zubzubzub." |
| 09:18.55 | Thetubbygoat | at 0:55 it's what dubstep is |
| 09:18.59 | JademusSreg | Or at least that's how it seems to me. |
| 09:20.55 | Kueken | so what DO you listen to? |
| 09:20.58 | Kueken | classic? |
| 09:21.05 | Kueken | old video game themes? |
| 09:21.23 | Kueken | epic music, lotR style? |
| 09:21.49 | JademusSreg | The problem with music genres is how its nomenclature is itself a kind of shibboleth, where you only know what the seemingly arbitrary designations mean if you accept them. |
| 09:22.29 | Kueken | I don't want a genre, I want a song! |
| 09:23.02 | Kueken | I am well aware of the nomenclature problems ;) |
| 09:23.08 | AlphA_VsT | sup guys |
| 09:24.31 | JademusSreg | The Willing Well I: Fuel For The Feeding End |
| 09:25.13 | JademusSreg | I also like Cascade, which will probably be more difficult for anyone to find, so here's a link. http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/cascade |
| 09:25.30 | Thetubbygoat | 13:14? Long songs |
| 09:25.46 | JademusSreg | I like the Homestuck soundtracks in general, though. |
| 09:25.55 | Thetubbygoat | Jade how do you know so many big words? |
| 09:26.27 | JademusSreg | But Cascade has an epic dimension to it, if you're familiar with the story to which is corresponds. |
| 09:26.47 | Thetubbygoat | I'm not |
| 09:26.52 | Thetubbygoat | Do you like Pokemon Jade? |
| 09:26.52 | JademusSreg | And the same can be said for songs like The Willing Well I: Fuel For The Feeding End. |
| 09:27.20 | Thetubbygoat | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvxlPNVSV84 |
| 09:27.40 | JademusSreg | Like? I like the concept. Can't say I play the games, at least not since I was younger. |
| 09:28.31 | Kueken | the gameboy games had a most awesome concept :p |
| 09:28.44 | Kueken | the tv series were awful, though |
| 09:28.48 | JademusSreg | It always bugged me how there were no animals, just pokemon. How would an ecosystem work if its populated by super-powered versions of animals? |
| 09:29.03 | Kueken | easy |
| 09:29.16 | Kueken | one of them has a super power to produce food |
| 09:29.34 | JademusSreg | I also took issue with its misrepresentation of evolutionary theory. |
| 09:29.57 | Kueken | you think too much |
| 09:30.21 | Kueken | but I guess you hear that frequent |
| 09:30.23 | Kueken | ly |
| 09:30.28 | Thetubbygoat | First season of Pokemon was awesome |
| 09:30.32 | JademusSreg | How would you qualify the criteria for establishing what constitutes excessive thought? |
| 09:30.42 | Thetubbygoat | Gameboy games were legit |
| 09:30.46 | JademusSreg | Moreover, how does one quantify thought? |
| 09:30.51 | Kueken | that sentence qualifies ;) |
| 09:30.53 | Thetubbygoat | Actually Jade, there were animals in Pokemon |
| 09:30.54 | Kueken | :-P |
| 09:31.22 | Thetubbygoat | http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Animals_in_the_Pok%C3%A9mon_world |
| 09:31.54 | Kueken | you are unable to answer a question without turning everything in a meta-discussion :D |
| 09:32.08 | JademusSreg | I never saw any animals in pokemon. =D |
| 09:32.22 | Kueken | they are food for the pokemon |
| 09:32.23 | JademusSreg | But that's understandable. |
| 09:32.55 | JademusSreg | They had enough trouble managing the memory with that game as it was; the item duplication glitch demonstrates that. |
| 09:35.19 | Thetubbygoat | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHG-JO8gIGk |
| 09:36.46 | JademusSreg | I tend to listen to music that are parts of narratives. |
| 09:37.02 | JademusSreg | Especially narratives with a meta-fictional aspect to them. |
| 09:38.21 | JademusSreg | Though, more precisely, I listen to music that has for me an emotional resonance, which I expect is true of anyone that sincerely enjoys a piece of music as opposed to being part of a music scene. |
| 09:38.45 | Kueken | true |
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| 09:39.03 | Kueken | I hear music, and if it triggers an emotional response, I tend to like it |
| 09:41.17 | Thetubbygoat | Jade, do you have aspburgers syndrome? |
| 09:41.32 | JademusSreg | Emotional resonance is interesting all by itself. I suspect the most common contributor to emotional resonance is experience and memory. Music to which we listen during particularly emotional events in our lives, late adolescence and early adulthood especially, but also those things which reminds us of those we have loved, those things and relationships which we have lost. |
| 09:41.39 | Kueken | gasp |
| 09:41.46 | Kueken | should have expected that |
| 09:42.18 | JademusSreg | I have not been diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome. |
| 09:43.38 | Kueken | hm |
| 09:43.43 | Kueken | too bad? |
| 09:45.46 | JademusSreg | Of course, emotional resonance is by no means limited to music. Sight, scent, taste, textures, they all have the potential for emotional resonance. Even habits, like a smoker who continues to smoke long after the clique whose company the smoker enjoyed has since passed. |
| 09:46.25 | Thetubbygoat | whats your IQ? |
| 09:46.26 | Kueken | Gotta love your train of thought :D |
| 09:47.09 | Kueken | *vote 140+ |
| 09:48.00 | Kueken | expectin an answer asking what iq means and how it is not really related to the intelligence etc etc |
| 09:48.24 | Thetubbygoat | yeah |
| 09:48.30 | Thetubbygoat | most likely kueken |
| 09:48.51 | JademusSreg | As I recall, Intelligence Quotient does not provide a thorough profile of a subject's intelligence, but problem solving faculties, like those related to logic and reasoning, math, and making intuitive leaps. In any case, I don't know. I've not been tested for such a thing that I can recall. |
| 09:49.00 | Kueken | bam! |
| 09:49.02 | Kueken | nailed it |
| 09:49.09 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 09:50.34 | JademusSreg | Makes about as much difference to ask a person their SAT or ASVAB scores. |
| 09:50.36 | Thetubbygoat | hahaah |
| 09:51.00 | Thetubbygoat | then what's your income before taxes, if you dont mind me asking |
| 09:51.09 | Thetubbygoat | and its totally understandable if you dont wanna say |
| 09:51.23 | JademusSreg | I'm not interested in talking aobut myself. |
| 09:51.26 | JademusSreg | *about |
| 09:52.11 | Kueken | too bad, it seems like there are people with an increased interest in you ;) |
| 09:52.14 | JademusSreg | Ideas merit discussion, preferably about technical subjects. |
| 09:52.23 | Kueken | ... or too much free time |
| 09:52.39 | Thetubbygoat | we are |
| 09:52.40 | AlphA_VsT | lol, fucking JademusSreg |
| 09:52.43 | Thetubbygoat | WE LOVE YOU JADEMUS |
| 09:52.48 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 09:52.55 | Kueken | speak for yourself |
| 09:53.01 | Kueken | I am making fun of him ;) |
| 09:53.04 | Thetubbygoat | Oh |
| 09:53.15 | Thetubbygoat | But he has such a more diverse varnacular |
| 09:53.18 | Kueken | .-* |
| 09:53.23 | Kueken | -.- |
| 09:53.24 | Thetubbygoat | vernacular* |
| 09:53.25 | Kueken | :-* |
| 09:53.46 | Kueken | and I even mess up my smileys |
| 09:53.49 | Thetubbygoat | .◠. |
| 09:53.54 | Kueken | I can understand your reasoning |
| 09:55.15 | Thetubbygoat | Jade have you ever shot a roman candle at a tub full of gasoline? |
| 09:55.46 | JademusSreg | I'm not certain of what a roman candle is, besides some kind of firework. |
| 09:55.58 | Kueken | figuratively speaking? |
| 09:56.13 | Thetubbygoat | it is |
| 09:56.18 | Thetubbygoat | a firework thing |
| 09:57.13 | JademusSreg | Seems like it could be an entertaining diversion at a social function. |
| 09:57.36 | JademusSreg | But not something I would find enriching by itself. |
| 09:57.36 | Thetubbygoat | Man, you must be makin' 200k a year |
| 09:57.38 | Thetubbygoat | If all you do is ananlyze things |
| 09:57.42 | Thetubbygoat | and not like explosions |
| 09:58.09 | Kueken | I sense some flawed logic here ;) |
| 09:58.28 | JademusSreg | It is a mistake to correlate intellect to financial success. |
| 09:58.55 | JademusSreg | There are entirely too many variables. |
| 09:59.31 | Thetubbygoat | Well |
| 09:59.32 | JademusSreg | One's station at birth alone has a disproportionate effect on one's financial success. |
| 09:59.47 | Thetubbygoat | I assume a certain amount of intellect diverges to analyzation, am I correct? |
| 10:00.06 | Thetubbygoat | Ah, but I assume you're not in a third world country |
| 10:00.09 | Thetubbygoat | Because internet |
| 10:00.18 | Thetubbygoat | and not in a non-capitalistic economy because IRC |
| 10:00.22 | Thetubbygoat | unless u 1337 hax |
| 10:00.33 | Thetubbygoat | could be somewhat socialistic |
| 10:00.47 | JademusSreg | To say nothing of fortune or the lack thereof through the vagaries of one's life, and the habits and character of the individual. |
| 10:00.56 | Kueken | also, high intellect is directly correlated to increased risk of mental illness, which more often than not prevents most monetary benefits from the intellect. |
| 10:01.03 | Thetubbygoat | But you're missing my point |
| 10:01.07 | Thetubbygoat | There must be some point |
| 10:01.12 | Thetubbygoat | Where if one is intellectual enough |
| 10:01.14 | Technomancer_ | i wish we had a non-capitalist economy :( |
| 10:01.16 | Thetubbygoat | He analyzes things |
| 10:01.29 | Thetubbygoat | And thus can *change* the outward appearance of his character |
| 10:01.34 | Thetubbygoat | To further himself in life |
| 10:01.36 | Kueken | other people simply do not desire wealth |
| 10:02.22 | Thetubbygoat | But what do you require? |
| 10:02.26 | Thetubbygoat | Jade, that is |
| 10:02.29 | Thetubbygoat | err |
| 10:02.30 | Thetubbygoat | desire* |
| 10:02.32 | Thetubbygoat | its 2:00 |
| 10:02.34 | Thetubbygoat | im sleepy |
| 10:02.41 | JademusSreg | I analyze things because I enjoy understanding things; it's an entirely selfish, intellectually masturbatory exercise. |
| 10:02.46 | JademusSreg | It's 5:02 am here. |
| 10:02.58 | Kueken | 11 am :) |
| 10:03.42 | Thetubbygoat | D: |
| 10:03.54 | Thetubbygoat | Jade do you require sleep? |
| 10:03.56 | Thetubbygoat | Or just.. go? |
| 10:04.06 | Kueken | I think my motivation is just the same as jades, even though my desire to analyze might be slightly inferior |
| 10:04.08 | Thetubbygoat | Dude Jade... wtf |
| 10:04.11 | Thetubbygoat | Poor wording |
| 10:04.15 | JademusSreg | It errs on the side of idealism to celebrate intelligence over, say, cultivating a good character. |
| 10:04.33 | Kueken | sleep is for pussys, just like food, oxygen and daylight |
| 10:04.46 | Thetubbygoat | Well Kueken, you're a programmer then? |
| 10:04.55 | Kueken | student, actually |
| 10:05.29 | Thetubbygoat | Of college I assume then |
| 10:05.40 | Kueken | university |
| 10:05.47 | Thetubbygoat | difference? |
| 10:05.49 | Thetubbygoat | canada? |
| 10:05.55 | Thetubbygoat | UK? |
| 10:05.58 | Kueken | its 11 am here |
| 10:06.01 | Kueken | :D |
| 10:06.03 | Kueken | germany |
| 10:06.34 | Kueken | (thats why my english is not as eloquent as jade's :D) |
| 10:06.37 | Thetubbygoat | ICH LIEBE DEUTSCHLAND |
| 10:06.50 | Thetubbygoat | MEIN DEUTSCH IST SCHLECHT |
| 10:06.52 | JademusSreg | Your english is fine, Kuek. =D |
| 10:07.00 | Thetubbygoat | ABER ICH WEISS DIE IMPORTANT WORTE |
| 10:07.06 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 10:07.12 | Kueken | important -> wichtigen |
| 10:07.14 | Thetubbygoat | Kuek, dein Englisch ist besser als meine |
| 10:07.21 | Kueken | other than that, nice |
| 10:07.21 | Thetubbygoat | ach, richtig, richtig |
| 10:07.42 | Thetubbygoat | Wohen kommst du? |
| 10:07.51 | Thetubbygoat | err, woher wohnst du? |
| 10:07.59 | Kueken | :p |
| 10:08.10 | Kueken | a town called Braunschweig |
| 10:08.15 | Kueken | near Hannover |
| 10:08.15 | Thetubbygoat | Small town? |
| 10:08.18 | Thetubbygoat | Churchy? |
| 10:08.24 | Thetubbygoat | Weisst du Kirchhain? |
| 10:08.33 | Thetubbygoat | Ah nvm |
| 10:08.40 | Thetubbygoat | It's in Hessen not Hannover |
| 10:08.45 | Kueken | ~ 250k inhabitants |
| 10:08.58 | Kueken | not THAT small |
| 10:09.39 | Thetubbygoat | ahahah |
| 10:09.45 | Thetubbygoat | i love how all germans say inhabitants |
| 10:09.51 | Thetubbygoat | instead of people |
| 10:09.56 | Thetubbygoat | the more, dumbed down, american way |
| 10:10.11 | Kueken | we learn british english at school |
| 10:10.21 | Kueken | colour n stuff |
| 10:11.02 | Thetubbygoat | yeah |
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| 10:11.23 | Thetubbygoat | "zset" for Z instead of "zee" |
| 10:12.23 | Kueken | a friend of mine was in america |
| 10:12.35 | Kueken | and she was in need of an eraser |
| 10:12.38 | Kueken | but |
| 10:12.47 | Kueken | we learn, that an eraser |
| 10:12.51 | Kueken | is a "rubber" |
| 10:13.20 | Kueken | well, I guess, you can understand the confusion, when she asked her guest family for a rubber |
| 10:13.36 | Thetubbygoat | AHAHAHAHAH |
| 10:13.38 | Thetubbygoat | yeah.. |
| 10:13.41 | Thetubbygoat | dude |
| 10:13.43 | Thetubbygoat | that's too funny |
| 10:14.09 | Kueken | not THAT funny, if you have no idea what you did wrong |
| 10:14.23 | Thetubbygoat | funny too me |
| 10:14.26 | Thetubbygoat | as a third party |
| 10:14.29 | Thetubbygoat | submitted that to bash btw |
| 10:14.37 | Kueken | and the guest family is a bit prude anyway |
| 10:15.02 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 10:15.07 | Kueken | I did learn rubber as well |
| 10:15.20 | Kueken | would have used that without a thought |
| 10:15.30 | Kueken | Hi jade |
| 10:15.36 | JademusSreg | Hi. =D |
| 10:15.44 | Kueken | this might sound a little strange, but I assure, it is out of context ;) |
| 10:15.52 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 10:16.29 | Thetubbygoat | hahaha |
| 10:16.40 | Thetubbygoat | radiergummi |
| 10:16.43 | Thetubbygoat | a favorite |
| 10:16.47 | Thetubbygoat | of most kids in german class |
| 10:16.54 | Kueken | :) |
| 10:17.09 | Kueken | most kids in german first grade use rubbers with great success? |
| 10:17.14 | Kueken | yay |
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| 10:18.33 | Thetubbygoat | hahaha |
| 10:18.35 | Thetubbygoat | nice |
| 10:19.10 | Thetubbygoat | alright guys |
| 10:19.12 | Thetubbygoat | gettin late |
| 10:19.14 | Thetubbygoat | night |
| 10:19.22 | Thetubbygoat | stay fresh jade, always stay fresh. you remember that. |
| 10:19.44 | Kueken | now... |
| 10:19.53 | Kueken | what does he mean by THAT? |
| 10:20.19 | JademusSreg | Perhaps it's an ironic reference to The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. |
| 10:20.39 | Kueken | in this case... please don't become fresh |
| 10:21.11 | JademusSreg | Backwards baseball caps and sports jersies do not suit me. |
| 10:21.15 | Kueken | however the use of the word "stay" suggests that you already are |
| 10:21.42 | Kueken | but I cannot seem to find the slightest resemblance of the prince of bel air in your words |
| 10:22.16 | Kueken | maybe you have a rich uncle ;) |
| 10:22.31 | JademusSreg | Perhaps it's an anachronistic use of the word, refering to demonstrating an inappropriate familiarity with a person, within the context of physical contact? |
| 10:23.04 | Kueken | uh, who would do such a thing? |
| 10:24.09 | JademusSreg | A post-pubescent male? |
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| 10:26.05 | Kueken | Me? No way. |
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| 10:34.14 | AlphA_VsT | lololol |
| 10:34.30 | AlphA_VsT | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-02-20%20at%202.32.20%20AM.png hey look hide and seak |
| 10:34.32 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 10:34.54 | JademusSreg | Best grass evar. |
| 10:35.10 | AlphA_VsT | LOS BLOCKER :D |
| 10:36.40 | AlphA_VsT | i still have to play with the camera 0.o |
| 11:01.18 | AlphA_VsT | ok so i think im changing to a slight 3rd person... and im adding Occlusion because it works fucking amazingly |
| 11:05.19 | AlphA_VsT | FieldBel Shir Tree |
| 11:05.20 | AlphA_VsT | OcclusionHide |
| 11:05.20 | AlphA_VsT | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202012-02-20%20at%203.04.02%20AM.png 3rd person... same screen location |
| 11:06.11 | AlphA_VsT | i dont have to add gimicky turn abilities also |
| 11:06.15 | JademusSreg | Playhed with field of view yet? |
| 11:06.34 | AlphA_VsT | not on that camera |
| 11:07.32 | AlphA_VsT | woudl you rahter play it first person or 3rd person? |
| 11:08.27 | JademusSreg | Depends on how3 much tension you want./ |
| 11:08.35 | JademusSreg | is sleepy. |
| 11:08.52 | AlphA_VsT | well there will be a lot :D |
| 11:09.06 | AlphA_VsT | this is a special hide and seak game |
| 11:09.45 | JademusSreg | First person is preferable if you want a lot of tension. |
| 11:10.01 | JademusSreg | Also, *seek |
| 11:10.18 | AlphA_VsT | yeah :P typo :D |
| 11:10.42 | AlphA_VsT | cause I like my a's |
| 11:11.24 | JademusSreg | Bitchas be trippan ova ma love of a's. |
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| 11:12.30 | AlphA_VsT | I like my movement system, you cant change your mind if you decide to move and you will have a slight delay before you can mvoe again |
| 11:13.10 | JademusSreg | Sounds like battlenet, with a positive spin on an intractable technical problem. =D |
| 11:13.29 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 11:13.31 | JademusSreg | "Bug? No, it's a feature!" |
| 11:13.39 | AlphA_VsT | fuck yeah |
| 11:14.20 | AlphA_VsT | its a really simple map and well i probably wont finish it :D |
| 11:14.31 | JademusSreg | "We call it the Realistic Staggering Action System." |
| 11:15.54 | JademusSreg | "It perfectly simulates being a panicked, uncoordinated, border-line mentally handicapped teenage slasher victim trapped in the dark of night." |
| 11:16.06 | AlphA_VsT | fuck yeah |
| 11:17.14 | AlphA_VsT | and you know something my map started bright... but its dark suddenly randomly recently :D |
| 11:17.26 | AlphA_VsT | I think it makes it better |
| 11:17.32 | AlphA_VsT | not complaing |
| 11:17.37 | JademusSreg | It knows what daddy likes. |
| 11:18.55 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 11:19.09 | AlphA_VsT | get some alan wake up in this bitch |
| 11:19.29 | AlphA_VsT | fucking amazing game |
| 11:20.02 | JademusSreg | Similarly, Diablo 3 will feature the You're Always On The Verge of Death dynamic difficult system. |
| 11:20.12 | JademusSreg | *difficulty |
| 11:20.25 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 11:20.36 | AlphA_VsT | i want to play the beta :( |
| 11:20.59 | AlphA_VsT | every time someone metions d3 i have to check my bnet accoutn for beta access |
| 11:21.06 | AlphA_VsT | i cant type for anything right now |
| 11:21.39 | AlphA_VsT | fucking shit no |
| 11:24.36 | AlphA_VsT | So i got this crazy idea to just release paper zombies with all my assets... incase someone wants to work on it :P but I probably wont |
| 11:25.10 | JademusSreg | If you don't intend to complete it, it won't hurt. |
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| 11:26.33 | AlphA_VsT | I do though :P Well I want to :P |
| 11:29.03 | AlphA_VsT | Maybe I could see :p |
| 11:29.04 | JademusSreg | Want != intend |
| 11:29.27 | AlphA_VsT | It got out of control... I had to stop :P |
| 11:29.53 | JademusSreg | It's one of those do or do not deals. Better to be decisive than have a project languish in development hell. |
| 11:31.04 | AlphA_VsT | lol i have a lot of those |
| 11:32.29 | JademusSreg | Complete it, liberate it, or kill it. Keeping it around like some dear deceased lover's photograph isn't good for anyone. |
| 11:33.00 | AlphA_VsT | yeah i know :P |
| 11:33.08 | AlphA_VsT | I jsut dont want to lose control over it :P |
| 11:33.47 | JademusSreg | I should hope you treat actual lovers better than your metaphoric ones, in that case. |
| 11:34.55 | AlphA_VsT | haha, well im single so I guess not |
| 11:36.04 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
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| 11:36.47 | Mexa | ... lololol http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pokemon-yellow/id501950963 |
| 11:38.57 | AlphA_VsT | lol scams are fun |
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| 11:46.05 | AlphA_VsT | sigh |
| 11:46.06 | JademusSreg | Sleep time. |
| 11:46.10 | AlphA_VsT | i need this model name :9 |
| 11:46.12 | AlphA_VsT | :( |
| 11:46.33 | AlphA_VsT | stupid ugly foliage |
| 11:53.02 | AlphA_VsT | OMG |
| 11:53.16 | AlphA_VsT | I didnt know you could click the plus sign in the data editor to expand the lsit |
| 11:53.20 | AlphA_VsT | FUCKING AMAZING! |
| 11:54.37 | Mexa | lol |
| 11:54.40 | Mexa | haha |
| 11:58.38 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 11:59.11 | AlphA_VsT | did you know that? |
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| 16:03.09 | Flaffen | anyone here ggot any experience with beams? |
| 16:10.37 | Ahli | My beam experience exists out of copying archon's beam's structure (action actor + beam actor). |
| 16:11.00 | Flaffen | hehe |
| 16:11.17 | Flaffen | well i'm having issues with a chain beam not bouncing enough cuz it kills the targets. |
| 16:12.45 | Ahli | ask kueken |
| 16:13.30 | Kueken | oh, yeah, chain beams |
| 16:13.57 | Flaffen | u got any idea how to fix it? |
| 16:14.41 | Kueken | I had some huge workaround a while ago, not sure, if it still works, also, I would need to look it up |
| 16:14.43 | Flaffen | i'm guessing the buff doesent get to "fire" the search effect before the target dies |
| 16:15.06 | Kueken | use the final effect for the buff |
| 16:15.17 | Kueken | that one triggers even on death |
| 16:15.17 | Flaffen | if i lower the damage so that all targets survive it bounces correctly, but if it kills a target it stops shortly after |
| 16:15.42 | Flaffen | thats the one i'm using |
| 16:15.45 | Kueken | also, you need to adjust the death time of your targets |
| 16:15.51 | Kueken | to something >0 |
| 16:15.55 | Flaffen | k |
| 16:16.07 | Flaffen | thats on teh unit i set that? |
| 16:16.12 | Kueken | something like 0.125 should suffice, I think |
| 16:16.14 | Kueken | yes |
| 16:17.00 | Kueken | this should work for the actual functionality |
| 16:17.19 | Kueken | however most likely you will experience graphic bugs when killing people now |
| 16:17.25 | Flaffen | so i have to increase death time for every unit i want it to bounce correctly for? |
| 16:17.31 | Kueken | yes |
| 16:17.46 | Kueken | you can bulk-copy the time to all units at once |
| 16:18.59 | Ahli | or delay the damage with a persistent >_> |
| 16:19.00 | Flaffen | how do i do that? |
| 16:19.34 | Kueken | persistent produced some errors at this point, iirc |
| 16:19.49 | Kueken | you can select multiple units in the data editor |
| 16:20.09 | Kueken | then you can add the value to 1 field |
| 16:20.25 | Kueken | select the field, copy, select all fields of the units, paste |
| 16:21.13 | Kueken | also, I don't know, if this is the "best" way to do it, it was just the only one I could get to work back when I tried it |
| 16:21.14 | Flaffen | ok |
| 16:21.35 | Flaffen | well set death time to 0.125 now, still only hits 3 targets |
| 16:21.35 | Kueken | almost a year ago, though, some things might have changed |
| 16:22.35 | Kueken | hm |
| 16:22.54 | Kueken | do you use separate behaviors for each jump or a recursive approach? |
| 16:23.25 | Flaffen | got both |
| 16:23.35 | Flaffen | got 2 types, tried both now |
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| 16:23.55 | Flaffen | first with seperate behaviors, then recursive |
| 16:24.06 | Flaffen | both stopped after 2 additional jumps |
| 16:24.08 | Irikuan | Anyone here able to help me... action actors and launch missile effects |
| 16:24.09 | Irikuan | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/data/32875-launch-missiles-action-actors/#p1 |
| 16:24.25 | Irikuan | Can't get the missiles to a) launch from the casting unit, and b) find where to set the height at which they impact at. |
| 16:24.27 | ashamed | ahh |
| 16:26.15 | Flaffen | if they dont launch from the casting unit, where do they launch from? |
| 16:26.36 | Irikuan | Hard to explain... they launch from beneath the casting unit |
| 16:26.40 | Irikuan | not from the unit itself |
| 16:27.09 | Irikuan | Been through just about every field and event for the Action and Missile actors |
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| 16:27.55 | Flaffen | it has something to do with attachpoints i think, messed around with it myself but never got it to actually work, but there are several tutorials on sc2mapster |
| 16:30.35 | Flaffen | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/data/21629-solved-model-attachment-points/ |
| 16:30.53 | Flaffen | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/8926-data-working-with-attachments-beginner-difficulty/ |
| 16:30.56 | Flaffen | these might be relevant |
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| 16:32.15 | Flaffen | so, got any other tips keuken? cuz the death delay diddent work |
| 16:33.22 | Kueken | need to look up my map |
| 16:33.27 | Flaffen | k |
| 16:38.04 | Irikuan | @Flaffen: I've looked through those. Nothing helps. |
| 16:42.00 | Shawn|Rawr | Irikuan, would you send me the map so I can see how to fix it? |
| 16:43.02 | Irikuan | hang on, let me create a blank map and import the data objects in question |
| 16:43.23 | Shawn|Rawr | That's fine, just make sure the same problem exists |
| 16:44.02 | Shawn|Rawr | I'm pretty sure I can fix it, though I'm rusty and can't tell you straight out what the problem it |
| 16:44.03 | Shawn|Rawr | is* |
| 16:49.27 | Flaffen | afk |
| 16:54.04 | Kueken | Flaffen: Not sure, why it stops after the 3rd hit for you, works for me, even without any special treatment |
| 16:54.13 | Kueken | the death time was for another issue |
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| 16:58.22 | Irikuan | Shawn - where do you want me to send the map to? |
| 17:01.31 | Shawn|Rawr | dropbox? |
| 17:01.32 | Shawn|Rawr | idk |
| 17:01.36 | Shawn|Rawr | doesnt matter |
| 17:03.55 | Irikuan | nevermind! Sorted it... |
| 17:04.20 | Irikuan | the action actor was referencing the wrong ammo - unit projectile actor... |
| 17:04.36 | Irikuan | the only problem I have now is that these launch missile effects are anti-air except they go to ground height |
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| 17:13.44 | Shawn|Rawr | Neat |
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| 17:59.17 | Ashamed | customer : After you reset my password my screen is fuzzy... |
| 17:59.23 | Ashamed | Me: you are a fucking moron |
| 17:59.39 | Ashamed | >< Why people why :( |
| 18:04.24 | Xaragoth | good question |
| 18:04.42 | Xaragoth | why do women think it's horrible when we see them in underwear, but are perfectly fine showing off their goods in bikini? |
| 18:37.10 | Shadow_Killer | Why do you believe women even think? |
| 18:55.09 | Dresnia | Underwear is personal clothing, while a bikini is a show-off the goods item. It doesn't make sense, but neither does the average woman really. |
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| 19:20.57 | tampa1adam | you should have just told your customer in the most serious voice, "software password changes have been known to cause hardware issues" |
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| 19:21.53 | Flaffen | lol |
| 19:25.10 | Mexa | I'm slightly confused about a thing in the sc2components file. Anyone around to discuss it? |
| 19:33.25 | Dresnia | Just highlight JademusSreg (altho he likely has it disabled) :P |
| 19:34.10 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
| 19:34.30 | JademusSreg | And yes, I disabled highlighting. |
| 19:34.40 | Mexa | Jademus! |
| 19:34.44 | JademusSreg | What's up Mexa? |
| 19:34.52 | JademusSreg | Or should I say, MEXALING! |
| 19:35.04 | Mexa | I'm looking over the componentlist file, and had a few questions |
| 19:35.13 | Mexa | JADEMÜSLI! |
| 19:35.49 | Ashamed | its a mexaling |
| 19:36.01 | JademusSreg | What is worrisome about componentlist files? |
| 19:36.17 | Mexa | Take this as an example: http://pastebin.com/Rr3K8YnV |
| 19:36.19 | Mexa | Hi Ashamed |
| 19:36.43 | Mexa | That componentlist is takes from starjeweled if that matters |
| 19:37.02 | Mexa | However, mu quesiton is, any idea why it says GameText for the locale ones? |
| 19:37.25 | JademusSreg | It's an instruction to load files for locales, it looks like. |
| 19:37.28 | Mexa | Looking over the map structure, all others seem to link directly to a file name. |
| 19:37.41 | Mexa | Except that GameText is no such file. |
| 19:37.45 | Mexa | Yeah, I figured that |
| 19:37.55 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 19:38.06 | Mexa | There is a GameText.version file |
| 19:38.13 | Mexa | But that's the only trail of it. |
| 19:38.16 | JademusSreg | That makes sense. |
| 19:38.36 | JademusSreg | Question is what that file does. |
| 19:38.36 | Mexa | Does it? I wonder why there isn't a GameText file. |
| 19:39.06 | Mexa | Since all the rest of the counterparts have a file called what's said in that xml element content. |
| 19:39.37 | JademusSreg | Perhaps that is a version tracker for the various game string text files. |
| 19:39.49 | Mexa | Yes, probably |
| 19:40.03 | Mexa | On another note, GameData does not exist either |
| 19:40.11 | Mexa | But GameData.version does |
| 19:40.45 | Mexa | And I noticed, if I remove the locale line, it wont load any of the localized data at all (logical too I guess) |
| 19:41.24 | Mexa | But that the version file is a version tracker seems also abit odd. |
| 19:41.42 | Mexa | It's very small, and seems to contain very little information. |
| 19:42.22 | Mexa | All .version files are only 40bytes in size. |
| 19:42.26 | Mexa | (each) |
| 19:42.42 | JademusSreg | GameData is similarly a directory for all the xml files. |
| 19:43.02 | Mexa | Yes, that's correct |
| 19:43.02 | JademusSreg | So it's a version tracker, similarly, for multiple files. |
| 19:43.17 | Mexa | But there's no folder called GameText |
| 19:43.33 | JademusSreg | Aren't they in bytecode? I've not managed to read a version file. |
| 19:43.52 | Mexa | They are |
| 19:44.28 | Mexa | I recall the editor can browse them |
| 19:44.49 | Mexa | Ah no, they couldn't |
| 19:44.52 | Mexa | *it |
| 19:45.15 | Mexa | I was quite sure it only saves a version number to each component. |
| 19:46.33 | JademusSreg | I'm not concerned about GameText not being a directory or a file. We don't know what the content of the file means, so it might just be a read as identifier and number for all we know, something the editor increments but that has hardly anything to do with content itself. |
| 19:47.10 | Mexa | well okay |
| 19:47.53 | Mexa | That still remains, I wonder why there's corresponding files for the other data, but not for GameText specifically |
| 19:48.01 | Ashamed | i got two sli 480 classifieds yesterday ;) |
| 19:48.21 | Mexa | I suppose it also could be a leftover since beta, or that they decided that GameText = LocalizedData internally |
| 19:48.21 | JademusSreg | Say a user makes a change to text in any fashion during a session. |
| 19:48.38 | JademusSreg | Such as a trigger name, or a unit tooltip. |
| 19:49.06 | JademusSreg | Both of those text strings are stored in different files, but they could both be thought of as game text. |
| 19:49.16 | JademusSreg | Or even better, a player name and a unit tooltip. |
| 19:49.47 | Mexa | Well yes |
| 19:50.15 | JademusSreg | (A GUI trigger name is arguably not a game text, since a player will never see it.) |
| 19:50.17 | Mexa | Jademus, though, I was only questioning why it says GameText and not LocalizedData |
| 19:50.36 | JademusSreg | That's a fair question. |
| 19:51.03 | Mexa | Since every other component element is corresponding a file or folder for that |
| 19:52.10 | Mexa | Oh that's interesting, I thought Attributes was a binary file |
| 19:52.29 | JademusSreg | And while it is a fair question to ask, there's no way to be certain without watching the memory and seeing what the game is doing with the file. =D |
| 19:52.29 | Mexa | (Like in warcraft 3) |
| 19:52.38 | Mexa | Hm, true |
| 19:53.33 | Mexa | Hah |
| 19:53.41 | Mexa | What do you think of this one? http://pastebin.com/7xxenKDv |
| 19:53.54 | JademusSreg | I've read those before. |
| 19:54.07 | Mexa | Oh |
| 19:54.10 | JademusSreg | Manually editing them is a pain. |
| 19:54.21 | Mexa | Yeah, but do you recall what it is for= |
| 19:54.34 | JademusSreg | 999 appears to be the global namespace. |
| 19:54.52 | JademusSreg | And some tinkering helped me to figure out some of the ids. |
| 19:55.00 | JademusSreg | But I have since forgotten. =D |
| 19:56.23 | Mexa | aww:P |
| 19:56.35 | JademusSreg | But they correspond to mundane things. |
| 19:56.56 | JademusSreg | Like player color, control type, race, stuff like that. |
| 19:57.10 | Mexa | oh |
| 19:57.32 | Mexa | I was thinking they might be related to game attributes as well, yes= |
| 19:57.41 | Mexa | Lobby settings perhaps? |
| 19:57.56 | JademusSreg | I would figure out which was which by toggling them and looking at the changes. |
| 19:57.59 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 19:58.14 | Mexa | Alright. |
| 19:59.39 | Mexa | Seems those version files begins with similar characters by the way |
| 20:00.12 | Mexa | Objects.version has cdesbolp and Regions.version has cdesiger as identifiers. |
| 20:00.40 | Mexa | cdesgirt for Triggers.version |
| 20:00.57 | Mexa | So that cdes seems to be a common identifier. |
| 20:02.24 | JademusSreg | Anything else interesting? =D |
| 20:03.04 | Mexa | They all seem to end with the same characters too |
| 20:03.23 | Mexa | SOH NUL NUL NUL |
| 20:03.41 | Mexa | a 32bit integer perhaps |
| 20:04.02 | Mexa | I should probably look in a hex editor instead:P |
| 20:04.07 | JademusSreg | Good idea. |
| 20:04.49 | JademusSreg | Most hex editors have a string panel for the memory addresses, iirc. |
| 20:05.04 | JademusSreg | String, erm, character. =D |
| 20:05.26 | Mexa | aye |
| 20:05.39 | Mexa | Getting one as we speak |
| 20:05.53 | JademusSreg | Cygnus? Hex Workshop? |
| 20:05.59 | Mexa | The latter one it is |
| 20:06.05 | Mexa | I have no idea which editor is the best |
| 20:06.11 | Mexa | But I'm sure it's sufficient |
| 20:06.17 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 20:06.28 | Mexa | Awww |
| 20:06.33 | Mexa | I need to restart windows |
| 20:06.37 | Mexa | Oh silly installer |
| 20:06.44 | Mexa | Brb |
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| 20:10.54 | Mexa | Back |
| 20:11.20 | Ashamed | The mexaling is back! |
| 20:11.43 | Mexa | attempts a zergling noise. |
| 20:12.03 | JademusSreg | I wish I could zergle. |
| 20:12.04 | Mexa | I'm not sure how they sound, and described in text either:P |
| 20:12.19 | Mexa | ;) |
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| 20:15.11 | Mexa | Ah, |
| 20:15.17 | Mexa | The identifier is backwards |
| 20:15.32 | Mexa | I forgot if that means little endian or big endian |
| 20:15.47 | Mexa | But cdesofni in DocumentInfo.version for instance |
| 20:15.57 | Mexa | the last 4 chars are info backwards |
| 20:16.16 | Mexa | same at Attributes.version, it spells attr backwards |
| 20:18.47 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 20:20.38 | Mexa | AHA |
| 20:20.43 | Mexa | I found a date, I think |
| 20:21.30 | Shadow_Killer | Congratulations. |
| 20:21.35 | Mexa | firstly, it seems all of them ends with an int value of 1 or something |
| 20:21.41 | Mexa | The data before that is a date |
| 20:22.24 | Mexa | 22:33:44 2011-09-23 |
| 20:22.37 | Mexa | Sounds reasonable, looking at DocumentInfo for StarJeweled. |
| 20:23.31 | Mexa | 21:50:39 2011-09-23 for Triggers.version |
| 20:23.40 | Mexa | Yeah, that could be a date. |
| 20:25.35 | JademusSreg | Neato. |
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| 20:27.53 | Mexa | So it seems so far: 8 byte identifier, 4 byte start chunk always 1, 20 bytes unknown, 4 bytes being time, 4 byte end chunk always 1 |
| 20:29.57 | Mexa | Hrm, I wonder if this info isn't already at sc2mapster... |
| 20:30.34 | Mexa | Nope, not what I can find |
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| 20:36.43 | Mexa | Aha |
| 20:36.53 | Mexa | It also saves the current version |
| 20:37.18 | Mexa | Probably the editor build version (I suppose that one would be the same as ingame anyways) |
| 20:37.54 | Mexa | So: 8 byte identifier, 4 byte start chunk always 1, 4 bytes build version, 16 bytes unknown, 4 bytes being time, 4 byte end chunk always 1 |
| 20:44.15 | Mexa | The first 4 bytes is an identifier for the .versions file |
| 20:44.40 | Mexa | the next 4 bytes is the "Type" attribute found in the componentlist.sc2components. |
| 20:44.52 | Mexa | for each component |
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| 21:32.57 | Mexa | Aha! |
| 21:33.02 | Mexa | Jademus! |
| 21:35.05 | Mexa | http://pastebin.com/e4esnBic :D |
| 21:35.28 | Mexa | Reversed. |
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| 21:39.16 | Daara | I'm a beast zealot in pobes and zeelots |
| 21:39.23 | Daara | i make everyone quit :D |
| 21:40.05 | Mexa | Oh noes! |
| 21:40.31 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 21:49.42 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 21:49.46 | AlphA_VsT | that game sucks dick |
| 21:50.02 | AlphA_VsT | only reason it has so much play time is that it never ends |
| 21:50.32 | AlphA_VsT | i think there are cheats for it also |
| 21:50.57 | Daara | pretty much |
| 21:51.01 | Daara | it's not that fun |
| 21:51.05 | AlphA_VsT | i played it once and one guy had like +2500 damage to start with |
| 21:51.11 | Daara | lol |
| 21:51.14 | AlphA_VsT | like what the fuck |
| 21:52.11 | Daara | i just go to play zealot and make all of them quit |
| 21:54.06 | AlphA_VsT | the real issue is yoru playing the game... |
| 21:54.09 | AlphA_VsT | stop that |
| 21:55.19 | AlphA_VsT | yay removed the stupid shoreline models from water lol |
| 22:11.24 | AlphA_VsT | holy shit it took number one |
| 22:11.35 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 22:11.45 | AlphA_VsT | just goes to shwo you shity shit gets played |
| 22:11.48 | Ashamed | number one |
| 22:11.54 | AlphA_VsT | probes vs zeelots... |
| 22:12.01 | Ashamed | that game is BOMB |
| 22:12.02 | AlphA_VsT | or zeelot |
| 22:12.09 | AlphA_VsT | no its not |
| 22:12.15 | Ashamed | Its the best! |
| 22:12.24 | AlphA_VsT | best of the worst |
| 22:12.36 | AlphA_VsT | which is still crap |
| 22:13.10 | Daara | that would take me like 2 hours to make |
| 22:13.27 | Daara | it's pretty sad |
| 22:16.35 | AlphA_VsT | yeah |
| 22:16.42 | AlphA_VsT | and its buggy as hell |
| 22:16.59 | AlphA_VsT | the onyl reason it has so much play time is because it never ends x 15 players |
| 22:18.03 | Ashamed | bored -.- |
| 22:18.11 | AlphA_VsT | bored? |
| 22:18.25 | Ashamed | b0ared |
| 22:18.52 | Ashamed | board ? |
| 22:19.17 | AlphA_VsT | you are... |
| 22:19.37 | Ashamed | board? |
| 22:20.04 | AlphA_VsT | i want signs QQ |
| 22:21.21 | Ashamed | sines? |
| 22:22.26 | AlphA_VsT | yes.. a sign |
| 22:31.07 | JademusSreg | Pew pew |
| 22:35.21 | AlphA_VsT | dont shot my sign :( |
| 22:35.54 | JademusSreg | This always makes me smile: |
| 22:36.10 | JademusSreg | line 4115 // $AS - Trigger Editor(Bug 33070): In order for line numbers to be correct you need a newline at the end of this file |
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| 22:47.03 | Ashamed | i am tired :( |
| 22:50.21 | AlphA_VsT | wiat what lol |
| 22:52.15 | Mexa | http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/sc2-api/game-files/maps/version/ there we go. |
| 22:52.54 | JademusSreg | Neato. |
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| 23:29.53 | Batomys | Hola |
| 23:30.38 | AlphA_VsT | hi |
| 23:31.26 | Mexa | good day, good evening and good night |
| 23:32.00 | AlphA_VsT | yup |
| 23:32.28 | Dustin | Anyone here get the Catacomb Snatch source from that humblebundle thing this weekend? |
| 23:33.02 | Batomys | sounds like victorian era erotica |
| 23:33.44 | Dustin | Egyptian Steampunk :P |
| 23:34.17 | Dustin | Im so pissed I didnt hear about it till right after it got done |
| 23:34.32 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 23:34.40 | AlphA_VsT | i didnt get the recent humbbundle |
| 23:35.55 | Dustin | It was Mojang making a game in 60 hours |
| 23:35.59 | Dustin | and livestreaming the process |
| 23:37.25 | Batomys | sounds like a pretty crappy game designed in 60 hours |
| 23:38.46 | Jum-Jum | oh look everyone, its negative nancy |
| 23:39.02 | Batomys | Sorry, it sounds wonderful! |
| 23:39.21 | Jum-Jum | too fake, you're gonna have to work on that :/ |
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| 23:42.34 | JademusSreg | Celebrate the successes of your peers; there's no dignity is sniping good fortune. |
| 23:42.53 | JademusSreg | Well, celebrate or demonstrate sincere disinterest. Either way. |
| 23:43.07 | Mexa | All the money went to charity anyway |
| 23:43.19 | Mexa | And it was a small jam only, with a huge audience |
| 23:44.49 | Dustin | Its pretty fun |
| 23:44.57 | Dustin | I found a version 1 download |
| 23:45.30 | Dustin | But they released the source |
| 23:45.32 | Dustin | Afterwards |
| 23:45.37 | Dustin | And i wanted to play around with it |
| 23:49.22 | Mexa | aha |
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