| 00:00.24 | AlphA_VsT | Yeah... |
| 00:01.12 | Vailreth | please do not take this as smart ass remak because its not intended as one, i thank you all for trying to help and i am glad you knows know whats going on with this stuff because i really have very little clue |
| 00:01.33 | Vailreth | you guys know |
| 00:01.39 | Vailreth | fucking hell i hate my brain |
| 00:02.16 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 00:02.43 | AlphA_VsT | I see why you didnt want to do my thing with triggers to fix your issue the other day |
| 00:03.09 | Vailreth | what isue was that? |
| 00:03.48 | AlphA_VsT | i dont remember :P |
| 00:03.54 | AlphA_VsT | i think it was you :p |
| 00:04.25 | Vailreth | i dont remember either so it could have been |
| 00:06.07 | Technomancer | OMFG day from hell at work :( |
| 00:06.38 | AlphA_VsT | yay |
| 00:06.47 | Technomancer | no yay |
| 00:07.35 | DivinityOne | tech! |
| 00:07.49 | DivinityOne | Question i have an error with exporting a modle |
| 00:08.00 | DivinityOne | it get a - no **get** funtion for #colour 1start |
| 00:08.04 | DivinityOne | any dieas? |
| 00:08.20 | DivinityOne | ideas* |
| 00:11.05 | DivinityOne | Ugh i really want to see my super crane dance... i need to fix this error... |
| 00:12.39 | Vailreth | now the editor is fighting me |
| 00:12.58 | Vailreth | brb folks dinner |
| 00:17.51 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 00:18.22 | DivinityOne | Tech! *crys from the bottom of a dark endless pit* Your my only hope! |
| 00:20.06 | AlphA_VsT | nope |
| 00:24.07 | AlphA_VsT | how do you stop a camera from adjusting the height levels... |
| 00:24.35 | DivinityOne | easy |
| 00:24.39 | DivinityOne | disable high elvation thing |
| 00:24.48 | DivinityOne | filter by hight in camera section |
| 00:24.52 | DivinityOne | its self exaplintory |
| 00:25.37 | AlphA_VsT | ? |
| 00:25.41 | Daara | i guess i learned something from getting dropped |
| 00:25.51 | Daara | apparently if someone gets dropped at the start no one gets units haha |
| 00:25.56 | DivinityOne | you dissable it with a trigger |
| 00:26.20 | DivinityOne | Alpha what are you typring to disable.. player camera or a cinamtic camera? |
| 00:27.00 | AlphA_VsT | when the camera cahnges from ground to height level 1 and level 2 |
| 00:27.14 | AlphA_VsT | it goes up... and it goes down... |
| 00:27.42 | DivinityOne | oh |
| 00:27.45 | DivinityOne | you mean zoom |
| 00:28.00 | AlphA_VsT | is that zoom? |
| 00:28.09 | DivinityOne | your zoome din right? |
| 00:28.15 | DivinityOne | the diffrence zoom elvels of camera? |
| 00:28.24 | DivinityOne | yo be upa bove... or clsoe to character? |
| 00:28.29 | AlphA_VsT | no |
| 00:28.56 | A1win | AlphA_VsT, the only way I've managed to fix that was by making a looping trigger that adjusts camera height offset every 0.0625 seconds to counter the terrain height |
| 00:28.57 | DivinityOne | okay exsplain in detail for me |
| 00:29.21 | A1win | it wasn't pretty, but it worked :P |
| 00:29.51 | AlphA_VsT | when the camera transitions between heights |
| 00:30.08 | AlphA_VsT | I know ive done it before :P |
| 00:30.13 | DivinityOne | how in what context... following a unit... |
| 00:30.20 | DivinityOne | there is a high elvation trigger |
| 00:30.24 | DivinityOne | you disable it for the camera |
| 00:30.30 | DivinityOne | it wont raise on cliffs |
| 00:30.31 | DivinityOne | etc |
| 00:30.39 | DivinityOne | theres a spesific trigger inc amera section for it |
| 00:30.53 | A1win | it doesn't disable height elevation, just smoothing for it |
| 00:31.08 | AlphA_VsT | yeah |
| 00:31.36 | A1win | camera target always follows terrain height, afaik |
| 00:31.54 | DivinityOne | Mmm |
| 00:31.55 | A1win | and if smoothing is on, it follows the "hover" height |
| 00:32.21 | A1win | (like it does by default) |
| 00:33.10 | A1win | so if you want camera to always stay at height 10, you'd do camera height offset = 10 - height at point (current camera target) |
| 00:33.35 | A1win | disable smoothing, and repeat that once very 0.0625 seconds, over 0.0625 seconds ;p |
| 00:33.53 | AlphA_VsT | i know i did it better |
| 00:34.12 | A1win | better? |
| 00:34.31 | DivinityOne | Sint ti hight displasement? |
| 00:34.55 | A1win | that's something else |
| 00:35.09 | A1win | might have been something to do with air heights |
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| 00:35.21 | DivinityOne | not really... if a unit goes up a ramp camera will stay at base level and not raise to follow unit |
| 00:35.24 | Mexa | heyo |
| 00:35.26 | DivinityOne | at least thats the impression i got |
| 00:35.44 | A1win | nah that's not what it is |
| 00:36.04 | AlphA_VsT | Hi mexa :D |
| 00:36.14 | DivinityOne | mex do you do modles? |
| 00:36.21 | A1win | I've tried all of those out and none changed the fact that camera target changes height based on terrain height |
| 00:37.05 | A1win | I also have a model request in case anyone's interested: http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/artist-tavern/requests/31717-model-minable-rocks-and-ore-for-craft-craft/?unread |
| 00:37.10 | A1win | but sleep time now |
| 00:37.13 | DivinityOne | Still not sure what exactly is trying to beachived.... like how is the camer abeing used... and what exactly your trying to do/not do |
| 00:37.30 | Vailreth | and im back |
| 00:37.39 | AlphA_VsT | A1 knows :P |
| 00:37.58 | DivinityOne | a1 is no longer here to help! |
| 00:38.30 | Vailreth | ok |
| 00:40.01 | Vailreth | sigh i need to update the power value of a player when their avatar kills another unut BUT i cant set the varible to ower of Killing unit |
| 00:40.10 | Daara | love how i need to make a trigger incase someone leaves during player selection phase |
| 00:40.29 | Daara | should be fixed just need to drop from a game now to find out lol |
| 00:40.41 | Daara | watch, now that i added it i'll never drop again and i'll never know if it works or not |
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| 00:41.35 | AlphA_VsT | um i thought the map stopped like when you lose/win if you get dropped |
| 00:42.09 | Daara | i dunno for some reason if someone was getting dropped |
| 00:42.14 | Daara | the rest of the triggers couldn't finish |
| 00:42.26 | Daara | so i added a trigger that sets their shit to true if they leave |
| 00:42.32 | Flopjack | What's up mapping community? |
| 00:43.04 | Daara | looking for ppl |
| 00:43.10 | Daara | to come play |
| 00:43.26 | Flopjack | I happen to be a pretty good tester. |
| 00:43.31 | Flopjack | I can find all sorts of details. |
| 00:48.01 | Mexa | DivinityOne, nah, sorry |
| 00:54.00 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 00:54.39 | DivinityOne | Doze b.net have issue with copyright music in maps? |
| 00:54.56 | DivinityOne | i know that protect bob uses that one song... |
| 00:56.30 | Vailreth | i am soooo tempted to make the hydra shoot punisher grenades |
| 01:03.06 | Flopjack | DivinityOne, thanks for your help last night. |
| 01:07.59 | AlphA_VsT | divinity... you risk a lot :P they host the files so they are respsonible for everything... |
| 01:08.16 | AlphA_VsT | so yes it can and will be taken down :P |
| 01:08.26 | DivinityOne | np |
| 01:08.32 | DivinityOne | jsut crtedit me ont eh controls! ;p |
| 01:08.48 | Flopjack | Of course! |
| 01:08.51 | Flopjack | I will credit you. |
| 01:08.58 | Flopjack | How do you want to be known? |
| 01:09.01 | Flopjack | DivinityOne? |
| 01:09.31 | Technomancer | Vailreth why do you want to make the hydralisk shoot grenades? o_O |
| 01:09.49 | Vailreth | because it would be funny |
| 01:10.07 | Technomancer | :P but dont u already got something using grenades? lmao |
| 01:10.08 | Vailreth | and i was working on a trigger for something |
| 01:10.12 | Technomancer | ah |
| 01:11.29 | DivinityOne | Yea |
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| 01:12.02 | Vailreth | i need to finish Lash the Bone Blade, Aeon of Conquest |
| 01:12.13 | Vailreth | a hero for the zerg in my mod |
| 01:14.22 | Technomancer | Need help on that hero model Vail? |
| 01:14.33 | *** join/#sc2mapster Mexa (~Mexa@80.78.216.84) |
| 01:14.53 | Technomancer | is this the same map as the marauder hero? |
| 01:15.07 | Vailreth | i havent had a chance to check out the new marauder one yet and as for lash no yes |
| 01:15.41 | Technomancer | ...no yes? |
| 01:15.45 | Technomancer | no to what? yes to what? lol |
| 01:15.49 | Vailreth | yes was for the same map |
| 01:15.53 | Technomancer | ah |
| 01:16.07 | Technomancer | lash is teh tentacled hydra right? |
| 01:16.13 | Vailreth | yep |
| 01:16.21 | Technomancer | it looks awesome |
| 01:16.29 | Vailreth | i have two off five abilities Wound and Infused Carapace |
| 01:17.09 | Vailreth | wound has a chance of applying a buff that drains hp and infused carapace converts some hp damage to energy damage |
| 01:18.03 | Technomancer | innnteresting |
| 01:18.16 | Technomancer | so you're thinking of Zerg abilities? |
| 01:18.21 | Vailreth | trying to |
| 01:18.29 | Technomancer | Remember the map I had with my sauralisk? |
| 01:18.40 | Vailreth | some |
| 01:18.42 | Technomancer | I created one for him, u could tone it down but the general concept's the same |
| 01:19.24 | Technomancer | its a charge sorta ability "Hypermetabolize" he loses some armor but gains attack speed and movement speed. its a very modified version of zealot charge. it works I think |
| 01:19.43 | Vailreth | hm |
| 01:19.48 | Technomancer | it costs energy and some health too. Its one of those things that takes a severe defence penalty for offence increase |
| 01:20.28 | Technomancer | looks good on zerglings, as long as I tone it down from my raid mob version lol |
| 01:20.29 | Vailreth | not lash's style but maybe something similar to the wc3 tft cryptlords spiked carapace |
| 01:20.39 | Technomancer | its more a speed mob's style, yeah I agree |
| 01:21.14 | Vailreth | may have something like it as an aura for Legion thoug |
| 01:21.29 | Technomancer | how about parry chance? using the tentacles to give it a % chance to deflect incoming attacks |
| 01:22.00 | Vailreth | legion has 8 zerglings that are stationed around it and move with it |
| 01:22.19 | Technomancer | is that a buff or a hero? |
| 01:22.32 | Vailreth | legion is a hero |
| 01:22.38 | Vailreth | or as i call them Aeons |
| 01:22.51 | Vailreth | back from the OLD OLD definition |
| 01:24.46 | Technomancer | So there's the idea for a chance at deflecting/parrying blows. There's also a critical or penetrating hit, where it ignores all armor |
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| 01:25.00 | Technomancer | gonna go in game, bbl |
| 01:25.07 | Vailreth | ok |
| 01:29.38 | DivinityOne | Techhhhhhhh! |
| 01:45.20 | Technomancer | ??? |
| 01:45.24 | Technomancer | im back whats up |
| 01:46.17 | Technomancer | DivinityOne yo, u rang? |
| 01:49.09 | Technomancer | :-/ |
| 01:55.29 | Vailreth | hmm ok my powerbar will not update |
| 01:57.59 | DivinityOne | yes |
| 01:58.02 | DivinityOne | sorry |
| 01:58.11 | DivinityOne | I have a problem exporting a modle and hoped you had an answer |
| 01:58.26 | DivinityOne | i get an error -- no **get** funtion for #colour 1start |
| 01:58.58 | DivinityOne | I assume i need to set a default player color or something... but really dont know at all. All i did was make animations! i didnt touch the textures/materials.. |
| 01:59.12 | DivinityOne | Technomancer Pageing! ;p |
| 02:02.49 | Daara | divinity |
| 02:02.52 | Daara | come play |
| 02:03.06 | Daara | take a break |
| 02:03.13 | DivinityOne | I dont wanna play i want to animate... i want to make my giant mech robot dance! |
| 02:03.19 | Daara | lol |
| 02:03.45 | DivinityOne | Also want to make it pick up units and drop them in a shredder |
| 02:03.56 | Daara | have fun animating |
| 02:03.57 | DivinityOne | thats going to be a hassel |
| 02:04.07 | DivinityOne | I can animate all i want... |
| 02:04.13 | DivinityOne | its exporting thats stoping me >_< |
| 02:04.21 | DivinityOne | wtb technomancer! |
| 02:06.09 | Daara | flopjack you still around? |
| 02:06.21 | Flopjack | Yeah. |
| 02:06.39 | Daara | you down to do a test of my map? |
| 02:06.57 | Daara | i'm going to be using it to make a preview video |
| 02:06.58 | Flopjack | In a bit. Is it time sensative? |
| 02:07.12 | Daara | i got 3 other ppl in lobby with me atm |
| 02:07.23 | Flopjack | OK, give me a moment then. Where should I go? |
| 02:08.23 | Daara | join Honorgarde Valley Beta |
| 02:11.18 | DivinityOne | I sware, i can make the msot epic boss battles every... if i can get this working >_< |
| 02:12.54 | Flopjack | Downloading now. |
| 02:14.39 | Fredypimp | Hey guys, in the Data editor, how can I set an attack height? |
| 02:14.59 | AlphA_VsT | attack height? |
| 02:15.11 | Fredypimp | Like when the unit shoots (planetary fortress in this case), I would like it to fire from the cannons, not from the inside |
| 02:15.32 | DivinityOne | you have to attach it to the right location |
| 02:15.39 | DivinityOne | with a sightop |
| 02:15.58 | DivinityOne | the attack needs to know what hardpoint its attached to |
| 02:16.13 | Fredypimp | the attack..? like the weapon? |
| 02:16.15 | DivinityOne | without the sightop setting it... it just fires from the units origion (center) |
| 02:16.19 | DivinityOne | yes |
| 02:16.29 | DivinityOne | the effect/attack still needs its own sight op |
| 02:16.36 | DivinityOne | it needs to know where it orginates from |
| 02:16.56 | Fredypimp | ok, and how do we set the hardpoints its attached to? |
| 02:17.09 | DivinityOne | fist you need to know the hardpoint |
| 02:17.16 | DivinityOne | then under actiors theres an operations field |
| 02:17.18 | Fredypimp | like in my case I want it to shoot from the planetary fortress' cannos |
| 02:17.38 | Vailreth | i thought you guys said neutral is always player 0 |
| 02:17.41 | DivinityOne | yes but you need to know what thoses cannons are called :p |
| 02:17.47 | DivinityOne | yes vail |
| 02:18.06 | Vailreth | 0 = player one in my map |
| 02:18.10 | Fredypimp | Ibiks Cannon if I remember |
| 02:18.37 | DivinityOne | i meant the ahrdpoint lol. it could be ref wepon... ref wepon left, or ref wepon right |
| 02:18.40 | AlphA_VsT | no it doesnt vsilreth |
| 02:18.45 | DivinityOne | it might just be called hardpoint x |
| 02:18.47 | DivinityOne | i dont know |
| 02:19.12 | AlphA_VsT | unless you changed the first slot in the palyer settings to a player |
| 02:19.16 | Vailreth | then why does every thing with player[0] work for player one? |
| 02:19.47 | AlphA_VsT | wait a second |
| 02:19.57 | AlphA_VsT | this reminds me of that test i did |
| 02:20.47 | AlphA_VsT | sc2 treats 1 like 0 if you have no 0 |
| 02:21.19 | AlphA_VsT | player[1] will work for player 1 |
| 02:21.24 | AlphA_VsT | have you even tried |
| 02:22.07 | Vailreth | tried what? |
| 02:23.10 | AlphA_VsT | p.layer[1] working for player 1 |
| 02:23.29 | Vailreth | i dont understand what you mean? |
| 02:23.55 | AlphA_VsT | what ever i dont give a shit |
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| 02:28.37 | AlphA_VsT | :) |
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| 02:32.59 | AlphA_VsT | i guess i killed chat :P |
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| 02:33.28 | Vailreth | fuck you math ... just fuck you ... |
| 02:33.55 | Vailreth | im sorry if im frustrating you Alpha |
| 02:34.19 | Vailreth | but this powerbar is driving me insane with its not updating |
| 02:34.49 | JademusSreg | Powerbar? |
| 02:34.55 | AlphA_VsT | becasue you cant understand simple arrays 0.o |
| 02:35.08 | Vailreth | no i undertand them |
| 02:35.21 | Vailreth | and i have used them succesfully before |
| 02:35.57 | AlphA_VsT | then you shouldn't have had any many problems as you have with something so simple... |
| 02:36.27 | JademusSreg | What's the issue? |
| 02:36.29 | Vailreth | sometimes things dont seem simple to my brain its very messed up |
| 02:38.21 | AlphA_VsT | he cant grasp the fact that player 1 is a int value of 1 |
| 02:38.57 | Vailreth | no i get that |
| 02:39.16 | AlphA_VsT | are you sure cause we went over it for like an hour with you |
| 02:40.15 | JademusSreg | If Vail could elucidate on the problem, I may be able to lend my assistance. |
| 02:40.54 | Vailreth | when i am using killing player as the int value in an array the math its in dosent seem to work |
| 02:41.13 | JademusSreg | Can you pastebin the trigger and describe its purpose? |
| 02:41.15 | Vailreth | and player 1 is being treated as value 0 |
| 02:41.34 | Vailreth | ok give me a sec for some further tests |
| 02:41.37 | JademusSreg | kk |
| 02:41.57 | AlphA_VsT | did you cahnge your player properties? |
| 02:42.06 | AlphA_VsT | so player 0 is playable |
| 02:42.24 | JademusSreg | That is a possibility, the first my mind came up with. |
| 02:42.49 | JademusSreg | If player slot 0 is allocated to user, then the player value would likewise be 0. |
| 02:42.50 | Vailreth | do i need to? if so i will sorry to just now get that |
| 02:42.51 | AlphA_VsT | and did you try checking to see if player 1 also comes up when using a value of 1 |
| 02:44.32 | Vailreth | no |
| 02:44.48 | Vailreth | i was to frustrated with something else to think of that |
| 02:45.28 | AlphA_VsT | im 100% certain it will work |
| 02:46.54 | Vailreth | http://pastebin.com/R5td8avT |
| 02:47.27 | Vailreth | this works when killing player is changed for a direct value such as 0 or 1 |
| 02:48.04 | JademusSreg | And in what way is it misbehaving? |
| 02:48.28 | Vailreth | when its set to the function Killing Player it nolonger works |
| 02:48.43 | AlphA_VsT | what is yoru event? |
| 02:48.56 | Vailreth | any unit dies |
| 02:49.28 | JademusSreg | Seeing the entire trigger would be more informative, but I can hazard a few guesses. |
| 02:49.41 | JademusSreg | First, was Killing Player greyed out in the list? |
| 02:49.50 | Vailreth | no |
| 02:50.24 | JademusSreg | Are there any waits? |
| 02:50.46 | Vailreth | no |
| 02:51.25 | Vailreth | the only other part of the trigger adds10 to the killing players energy |
| 02:51.32 | Vailreth | but i think i may have found an issue |
| 02:51.41 | AlphA_VsT | ? |
| 02:51.46 | AlphA_VsT | and thata would be |
| 02:51.58 | Daara | thanks for coming flopjack |
| 02:52.05 | Daara | any input is welcome |
| 02:52.08 | Flopjack | Np! |
| 02:52.14 | Vailreth | i didnt set the value of an array called in a trigger to the proper index |
| 02:52.20 | Flopjack | Well, you're at a point where you need to continue on that path. |
| 02:52.35 | Flopjack | So, aside from small speed ups, you can't change the gameplay too much without reworking stuff. |
| 02:53.02 | AlphA_VsT | that might help vail |
| 02:53.52 | Daara | yea i think i'll lower unit health |
| 02:53.56 | Daara | in half |
| 02:54.03 | Daara | and then just have 2x as many units |
| 02:54.26 | Daara | reduce building cost etc. |
| 02:54.39 | Vailreth | im going through and correcting some things now |
| 03:02.30 | JademusSreg | Ah, the beauty of a data based combo counter attack. |
| 03:02.33 | JademusSreg | It's glorious. |
| 03:02.45 | AlphA_VsT | ? |
| 03:03.17 | JademusSreg | When unit X attacks unit Y, unit group Z attacks unit X simultaneously. |
| 03:03.45 | AlphA_VsT | ok then |
| 03:04.43 | JademusSreg | Kind of like a Chrono Trigger boss, the way when you would attack a boss with minions or parts, they would combo counter your ass into a state of regret. |
| 03:05.12 | AlphA_VsT | uh huh :P |
| 03:05.53 | JademusSreg | I just assume everyone over the age of 20 has played Chrono Trigger. |
| 03:06.51 | Daara | i never finished it |
| 03:06.58 | Daara | i got stuck at a part |
| 03:07.01 | AlphA_VsT | i played like 5 mins of it |
| 03:07.03 | Daara | and didn't have the internet back then |
| 03:07.14 | AlphA_VsT | lol noob |
| 03:07.18 | Vailreth | thanks for the help |
| 03:07.27 | AlphA_VsT | welcome? |
| 03:07.34 | JademusSreg | Well, if you played any boss battles from mid to late game, you probably encountered a boss that had counter combos. |
| 03:08.02 | DivinityOne | The dragon tank had one |
| 03:08.03 | Daara | games were much harder than they are now |
| 03:08.06 | Daara | fucking NES games |
| 03:08.06 | DivinityOne | it always ran you over... |
| 03:08.10 | Daara | were impossible sometimes |
| 03:08.17 | Daara | go play the first Ninja Gaiden |
| 03:08.26 | Daara | you'll want to blow your fucking brains out in an hour |
| 03:08.27 | Vailreth | can players exist in multiple player groups? |
| 03:08.37 | AlphA_VsT | huh |
| 03:08.39 | Daara | Ghost and Goblins |
| 03:08.49 | Daara | in 10 minutes you'll want to shank yourself with a dagger |
| 03:08.50 | AlphA_VsT | oh yeah of course they can |
| 03:09.00 | Vailreth | thanks i just needed to be sure |
| 03:09.00 | JademusSreg | So I've got a behavior with a damage response that applies an effect to the attacker to apply a behavior to the attacker that is used by a validator for the combo weapon. |
| 03:09.25 | JademusSreg | A weapon with long range, mind you. |
| 03:09.28 | AlphA_VsT | ok then :P |
| 03:11.01 | JademusSreg | It looks pretty sweet, raking laser beams across the ground, starting a radius around the target then closing in on it. It is a sublime experience to see it in action. |
| 03:11.18 | Vailreth | are there any foreseeable probles with adding every user player to a unit group of their own for displaying dialogs? say iff there are not full user players? |
| 03:11.20 | JademusSreg | Six lasers attacking in near-complete unison. |
| 03:12.02 | JademusSreg | Why not use the Active Players action to get the active playergroup? |
| 03:12.13 | AlphA_VsT | why would you do that? |
| 03:12.28 | Vailreth | i need each player in a player groupl with their own player index |
| 03:12.36 | AlphA_VsT | ... |
| 03:12.44 | AlphA_VsT | you use a loop? |
| 03:12.49 | Vailreth | becuase i am damn sad at triggers... |
| 03:12.57 | AlphA_VsT | Yes I know |
| 03:13.32 | AlphA_VsT | and its really not that hard |
| 03:13.50 | AlphA_VsT | even more so whit basic stuff :D |
| 03:13.52 | Vailreth | if you are asking if i am using a loop no i am not its in the initilaztion trigger and i just add them to a group with the same number |
| 03:14.39 | AlphA_VsT | so your doing a new element for each player? |
| 03:15.01 | Vailreth | i have a player variable array of type player group |
| 03:15.29 | AlphA_VsT | that sounds to confusing :P |
| 03:15.49 | Vailreth | it works for my crazy head |
| 03:15.52 | AlphA_VsT | and i fail to see why you need that |
| 03:16.44 | Vailreth | as far as i can tell it need it because dialogs can only be show to player groups and i have no idea how to designate a specific player instead of a player group |
| 03:16.45 | AlphA_VsT | because you are just referencing what you have alraedy |
| 03:17.10 | AlphA_VsT | convert player to player group |
| 03:17.19 | AlphA_VsT | do it in a loop |
| 03:17.31 | AlphA_VsT | and set the player to picked player |
| 03:17.46 | AlphA_VsT | simple |
| 03:20.51 | Vailreth | will i still need the array to keep the dialog seperate> |
| 03:21.12 | Vailreth | it will be possible for each player to have a unique set of dialogs.. |
| 03:21.20 | AlphA_VsT | which array? |
| 03:21.32 | AlphA_VsT | you need an array for each dialog... |
| 03:21.49 | Vailreth | i know. |
| 03:22.12 | Vailreth | but i am using the player group array to diferntiate between individual players dialogs |
| 03:22.39 | Vailreth | well for display anyway |
| 03:22.39 | AlphA_VsT | 0.o |
| 03:23.11 | AlphA_VsT | you dont need another array for player groups |
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| 03:23.23 | Vailreth | i just have one |
| 03:23.33 | Vailreth | do i not need it? |
| 03:23.51 | AlphA_VsT | no just convert the player to a player group... |
| 03:24.17 | AlphA_VsT | and set the player to the picked player |
| 03:24.39 | Vailreth | then how do i diferntiate between the dialogs for each player? the same way? |
| 03:25.31 | AlphA_VsT | you only need the one array for the dialog... |
| 03:26.05 | Vailreth | oh right... |
| 03:26.24 | AlphA_VsT | and the array is what differintaties between the dialogs |
| 03:26.41 | Vailreth | i am trying to convert a single player ui into multi player and i have no experince with triggers |
| 03:26.59 | Vailreth | crash course it appears |
| 03:27.53 | AlphA_VsT | lol well simple answer is if it says player 1 that one needs to be looped or set with soemthing like killing player to referance back to the array |
| 03:29.15 | AlphA_VsT | and what ever global variables you where using need to be turned into arrays |
| 03:29.34 | AlphA_VsT | you shouldnt need to add anything beyond what you have |
| 03:30.13 | Vailreth | just a few loops and corrections |
| 03:30.15 | AlphA_VsT | and if you do, well you are probably doing it the hard and unnecessary way |
| 03:30.57 | AlphA_VsT | I hated arrays when I first tried to figgure them out :D |
| 03:31.45 | Vailreth | i love arrays its general Logic that burns my braincells |
| 03:31.57 | Vailreth | and math |
| 03:33.43 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 03:35.11 | Vailreth | i am assuming i can use one array of nine for all heros instead of an individual variable for each player or would that be better? |
| 03:35.29 | AlphA_VsT | ... |
| 03:36.01 | AlphA_VsT | thats the point of arrays... its a stack of variables... |
| 03:36.29 | Vailreth | my mind makes SLOW connections have patience ... |
| 03:37.39 | Daara | time to make a little promo video |
| 03:37.54 | AlphA_VsT | yay |
| 03:37.55 | Daara | time for some sony vegas |
| 03:38.05 | Daara | feels like its been ages since i've used it |
| 03:38.11 | Vailreth | what version of vegas? |
| 03:38.37 | Daara | vegas 8.0 pro |
| 03:38.54 | AlphA_VsT | OH MY FUCKING GOD! |
| 03:38.54 | Vailreth | ah i have 9 something |
| 03:39.05 | Vailreth | what did i do?? im sorry |
| 03:40.37 | AlphA_VsT | NO |
| 03:40.46 | AlphA_VsT | My fucking textures on my map moved :( |
| 03:41.02 | AlphA_VsT | the fucking got offset... |
| 03:41.25 | Vailreth | ack |
| 03:41.35 | AlphA_VsT | I spent hours on doing the textures 0.o |
| 03:41.38 | Daara | i love how vegas always loads your last project |
| 03:41.45 | Daara | i get to laugh at my danger monkey video :D |
| 03:43.04 | AlphA_VsT | another fucking rhing that happened on this map 0.o |
| 03:43.27 | AlphA_VsT | oh wait |
| 03:43.29 | AlphA_VsT | maybe yes |
| 03:44.43 | AlphA_VsT | I FUCKING LOVE YOU DROPBOX! |
| 03:44.54 | AlphA_VsT | Auto back up of files |
| 03:44.55 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 03:45.43 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 03:45.44 | AlphA_VsT | nothing lost everything gained |
| 04:07.26 | DivinityOne | I love mapping :p |
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| 04:17.01 | Fredypimp | Hey guys! I got a little problem.. |
| 04:18.08 | Fredypimp | I wanna set an upgrade that I personaly made in the data editor, but when I try to set it to a value by using the "Set upgrade upgrade level to X for player X" I dont see it in the list |
| 04:19.20 | Fredypimp | What do I have to do to see it so I can select it? |
| 04:20.48 | Vailreth | i dont think i have had that issue.... did you try searching for it with the search bar? |
| 04:21.01 | Fredypimp | Yes I did |
| 04:21.06 | Fredypimp | I just doesnt appear.. |
| 04:21.10 | Vailreth | in that case hmm |
| 04:21.15 | Fredypimp | it* |
| 04:21.16 | Vailreth | maybe saving the map. |
| 04:21.30 | Fredypimp | auto-save every 10 minutes |
| 04:21.37 | Fredypimp | last one was like 1 min ago |
| 04:23.01 | Vailreth | no clue then maybe closing and re opening the editor |
| 04:39.31 | Fredypimp | hmm |
| 04:39.44 | Fredypimp | solved the problem but another one appeared.. |
| 04:40.00 | Vailreth | the editor is like that |
| 04:40.15 | Fredypimp | I am trying to upgrade to add the behavior Detector(1) to Marauder, Roach and Stalker |
| 04:40.24 | Fredypimp | but it doesnt do anything.. |
| 04:41.08 | Fredypimp | i set up the requirements, i put the ability i made in the command card and then poof! nothing.. -.- |
| 04:42.18 | Vailreth | did you add the behavior to the units behavior behaviors field? |
| 04:42.27 | Fredypimp | hmm |
| 04:42.32 | Fredypimp | going to take a look :S |
| 04:42.46 | Vailreth | for the marauder roajch and stalker i mean |
| 04:43.13 | Fredypimp | now yes :P |
| 04:44.23 | Fredypimp | now yes but it doesnt wait for the upgrade being done to detect.. |
| 04:45.04 | Vailreth | does the behavior have the requirement in it requirements field?| |
| 04:45.15 | Fredypimp | just added it, testing now |
| 04:46.05 | Fredypimp | working ! :D |
| 04:46.35 | Fredypimp | Thanks :) |
| 04:53.56 | Vailreth | no problem |
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| 05:23.06 | bdbandit | hey, I'm a noob, and I was wondering how do I remove the observers ability to see over cliffs if i made it a ground unit |
| 05:23.12 | bdbandit | i already fixed vision height |
| 05:23.17 | bdbandit | but my problem is still there |
| 05:26.43 | JademusSreg | checks. |
| 05:27.29 | JademusSreg | Which part did you set to ground? |
| 05:28.28 | bdbandit | uhh |
| 05:28.29 | bdbandit | the mover |
| 05:29.27 | bdbandit | there must be an additional aspect or something that I'm missing because other units don't have this problem |
| 05:29.34 | bdbandit | all i had to do with others was fix vision hieght |
| 05:29.37 | bdbandit | height** |
| 05:29.59 | JademusSreg | Perhaps the detector behavior is responsible. Remove it and see what happens. |
| 05:30.45 | bdbandit | i did remove it |
| 05:30.50 | JademusSreg | Does it have Use Line of Sight checked? |
| 05:31.04 | bdbandit | oo |
| 05:31.05 | bdbandit | where is that |
| 05:31.10 | JademusSreg | Flags. |
| 05:31.27 | bdbandit | let me try |
| 05:31.32 | bdbandit | thanks so much if it works |
| 05:31.50 | tampa1adam | WARNING: Trying to create a missile directly and not in the context of an attack. |
| 05:32.10 | JademusSreg | No problem. |
| 05:32.18 | bdbandit | it worked! |
| 05:32.19 | bdbandit | thanks |
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| 06:18.09 | Sable | how do I use the text editor for triggers? it never saves what I write |
| 06:19.22 | JademusSreg | ??? |
| 06:22.20 | DivinityOne | Time to learn some cinamatics... |
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| 06:25.14 | bdbandit | how do u make a building fixed facing |
| 06:25.23 | bdbandit | when a place a building it has random facing |
| 06:26.37 | DivinityOne | select it and hit enter to get proerties and enter an exact angel |
| 06:26.52 | DivinityOne | or slect it and hold shit+ctrl and left mouse around to angel it |
| 06:29.12 | bdbandit | ive done it before |
| 06:29.14 | bdbandit | in the data |
| 06:29.21 | bdbandit | where its fixed facing one angle without random |
| 06:29.26 | bdbandit | but i cant remember how |
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| 06:59.54 | cook1es | hi, im having problems with getting my aura to work. http://paste.static.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/9277-applying-an-aura-to-a-unit-easy-difficulty/ I followed this guide. The unit itself gets a buff but not units around the "aura tower". |
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| 07:04.44 | JademusSreg | All of those Stop SOPA images seem helpful. |
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| 07:58.39 | DivinityOne | Question... is there a way to block player pathing... but not enemy? Like let mobs walk though something, but have that same arrea impassible to a player? |
| 07:59.23 | JademusSreg | Collide flags. |
| 08:00.16 | JademusSreg | Or if you mean dynamically, catalog action on collide flags or by having the blocker units use force effects to knock back players. |
| 08:03.35 | cook1es | JademusSreg: was that a response to my question? |
| 08:03.51 | JademusSreg | That was in response to Div's. |
| 08:04.08 | JademusSreg | My response to yours was a glib mention of the unhelpful images in it. |
| 08:04.14 | JademusSreg | Anyway, auras are simple. |
| 08:04.35 | cook1es | they were more simple than i thought yet i cant get it to work lol :( |
| 08:07.09 | JademusSreg | Behavior buff with a period defining the precision (I prefer 0.0625), with a period effect Search Area, that has search filters set to effect only the units you want, with the Area deifining the radius within which you apply an Apply Behavior Effect to apply a Behavior Buff that gives the units the bonuses (or penalties) you want, ensuring it will only last as long as its in the area by |
| 08:07.10 | JademusSreg | giving it a duration only slightly exceeding the source behavior's period. |
| 08:07.11 | JademusSreg | Got it>? |
| 08:07.16 | tampa1adam | WARNING: Trying to create a missile directly and not in the context of an attack. |
| 08:17.40 | JademusSreg | It means you're trying to create a missile without, say, having an Action actor to spport it. |
| 08:17.44 | JademusSreg | *support |
| 08:19.01 | tampa1adam | hmm, well everything works perfectly fine, just that error message appears |
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| 08:31.31 | Technomancer | DivinityOne, I saw ur request, i lost my net as i replied. gotta wait til morning to call to get it up D: |
| 08:31.48 | DivinityOne | mmm |
| 08:31.51 | DivinityOne | im here |
| 08:32.06 | DivinityOne | lol |
| 08:32.50 | Technomancer | i can try but i give no eta. what model? |
| 08:33.08 | DivinityOne | I didnt have a modle issue |
| 08:33.13 | DivinityOne | I have an export error issue! |
| 08:33.25 | DivinityOne | I get an error i dont know what to do to fix |
| 08:33.37 | DivinityOne | -- no **get** funtion for #clour 1start |
| 08:33.41 | Technomancer | thought u wanted a dance anim |
| 08:33.55 | DivinityOne | Im an animater lol |
| 08:33.57 | DivinityOne | i can do that |
| 08:34.01 | DivinityOne | i already animated a unit |
| 08:34.03 | Technomancer | someone said that |
| 08:34.06 | DivinityOne | i just cant exsport it... |
| 08:34.08 | Technomancer | ohh |
| 08:34.17 | DivinityOne | I get an error on export |
| 08:34.22 | DivinityOne | -- no **get** funtion for #clour 1start |
| 08:34.29 | DivinityOne | colour* |
| 08:34.48 | Technomancer | idk i had similar prob in the past |
| 08:35.12 | Technomancer | mmmm renstall is beat suggestion i got |
| 08:35.18 | Technomancer | best |
| 08:35.22 | DivinityOne | plugin? |
| 08:35.29 | DivinityOne | lol it was a fresh install |
| 08:35.37 | DivinityOne | it imports fine |
| 08:35.38 | Technomancer | try that first |
| 08:35.41 | DivinityOne | its tossing the modle back out |
| 08:35.56 | Technomancer | idk why it happens man but it does |
| 08:36.53 | Technomancer | it has to me with model files i had np with previosly. bizzarre |
| 08:37.12 | DivinityOne | that error? |
| 08:38.46 | Technomancer | no solution only empathy... yeah that or very similar. some m3s import fine for a while, then suddenly no. these werent saved over either. raw mpq ones |
| 08:39.43 | Technomancer | try reinstallin plugin, then 3ds max |
| 08:39.56 | Technomancer | sorry... |
| 08:41.30 | DivinityOne | ugh... |
| 08:41.40 | DivinityOne | i'll jsut try a diffrent modle first lol |
| 08:42.35 | DivinityOne | I jsut wish i knew what the error meant or was.. |
| 08:43.11 | Technomancer | its just a bizzarre glitch, troubleshoot anyway u can. wish i was moar help |
| 08:43.32 | Technomancer | ya me 2 |
| 08:43.38 | DivinityOne | Sounds like its missing a player color |
| 08:43.40 | DivinityOne | or something |
| 08:44.30 | Technomancer | but its done it to perfect m3s too. |
| 08:45.38 | Daara | rendering video |
| 08:45.44 | Daara | takes...so....long |
| 08:46.00 | Daara | getting some icrecream! |
| 08:47.29 | DivinityOne | meh anyway im working on ym map systems and rpg elements |
| 08:47.36 | DivinityOne | i'll screw with modles later |
| 08:50.12 | DivinityOne | im haveing a trigger issue |
| 08:50.13 | Technomancer | rpg? do tell, what kind |
| 08:50.51 | Technomancer | not a trigger guy :( |
| 08:50.51 | DivinityOne | A zombie outbreak/survival. But much more of a stratagy/adventure game. A dynamic living world/map with objectives and random events... |
| 08:51.27 | Technomancer | huh |
| 08:51.29 | DivinityOne | You have towns, and things to visit, crafting etc... its more of a true rpg then anything |
| 08:52.02 | DivinityOne | You asked what kind of rpg ;p |
| 08:52.43 | Daara | mmm |
| 08:52.45 | DivinityOne | its not a kill mass's of enemies and spam upgrades.. etc. its a lot more detailed and indepth then the zerg hunter series. |
| 08:52.56 | Technomancer | wow even crafting... curious how u pulled it off |
| 08:53.02 | Daara | strawberries, hot fudge, and caramel on my vanilla icecream :D |
| 08:53.05 | Daara | i'm such a fatty |
| 08:53.10 | DivinityOne | Its about survival.. about keeping ammo stocked, about finding amterials to make marine suits to actualy fight with.. |
| 08:53.12 | DivinityOne | finding food... |
| 08:53.31 | Daara | speaking of food this icecream is delicious |
| 08:53.34 | Technomancer | l4d |
| 08:53.37 | DivinityOne | keeping the powerplant under control and well maintained. Find survivors |
| 08:54.09 | DivinityOne | Also going to have a bell curve... the more sucessful you are the stronger the random event... |
| 08:54.13 | DivinityOne | so the diffiuclty scales |
| 08:54.27 | DivinityOne | not l4d at all |
| 08:54.42 | DivinityOne | more of a resident evil |
| 08:54.49 | DivinityOne | its slower paced, not run and gun |
| 08:54.56 | Daara | it ganna be in 1st person? |
| 08:54.59 | Daara | with flash lights? |
| 08:55.02 | DivinityOne | yes |
| 08:55.04 | DivinityOne | but not first |
| 08:55.08 | DivinityOne | close 3ed though |
| 08:55.13 | DivinityOne | already ahve that done |
| 08:55.37 | DivinityOne | its going to have fast travel... but its really just hopping in apc's and beign driven to quest/mission locations |
| 08:55.53 | Daara | you need to add creepy sounds to the map |
| 08:56.15 | DivinityOne | most of the maps going to be dynamic to respawn etc. like the power plant. it can break... become infested... be under your control, be captured by bandits |
| 08:56.16 | DivinityOne | etc |
| 08:56.22 | DivinityOne | 1 location many encounters |
| 08:56.34 | DivinityOne | Sounds and music will be big |
| 08:56.50 | DivinityOne | But its one step at a time... |
| 08:57.14 | DivinityOne | I ave to make dozens of systems just to get the first town play test started |
| 08:57.45 | Daara | yep |
| 08:57.47 | DivinityOne | i have random attack triggers... where zombies idely assualt the town... testing its defences. |
| 08:58.00 | DivinityOne | But sometimes a horde might show up... and really threaten the town |
| 08:58.22 | DivinityOne | Towns will beable to fall |
| 08:58.27 | Technomancer | id love to learn how to input crafting |
| 08:58.49 | DivinityOne | and need to eb recovered... but even recovered... they need surivors to operate them. So you need to find new poeple... with skills to do the jobs. |
| 08:59.21 | DivinityOne | My way of craftigns easy.. |
| 08:59.37 | DivinityOne | its not the kinds of materials you have... but the bluepprints you find/research/unlock |
| 08:59.51 | DivinityOne | You can get resources easly... (but can only cary a small amount...) |
| 09:00.21 | DivinityOne | So you need to store them in town |
| 09:00.33 | DivinityOne | Its a lot of time consuming work to stock pile resources |
| 09:00.46 | DivinityOne | Things like an APC would take quite a few games |
| 09:01.11 | Technomancer | trigger based? |
| 09:01.20 | DivinityOne | But actualy i dont know how im going to handel that... its down the road. Most services/vehicals in game are NPC controled. you jsut get to ride shotgun |
| 09:01.41 | DivinityOne | Actualy most is data. but i havnt even begun to start it |
| 09:01.44 | DivinityOne | its a later system |
| 09:02.45 | DivinityOne | One of my fav aspects is the 'joy ride' mission i plan to make |
| 09:03.12 | DivinityOne | where you and the rest of the players in game hop into a apc... and basicly patrol (npc drives you around... its a mobile bunker basicly) and you pick off the undead |
| 09:04.05 | DivinityOne | Roads can become blocked... as well. So the patrol may be forced to stop... or even crash. Then your on food in dangerus territory. |
| 09:04.19 | DivinityOne | foot* |
| 09:04.30 | DivinityOne | As you can see this maps insanly complex lol |
| 09:04.33 | DivinityOne | or will be |
| 09:04.42 | DivinityOne | If i can stay motivated to work on it. |
| 09:06.34 | DivinityOne | I found a VERY amazing trigger i plan to use alot in mission zones |
| 09:07.12 | Technomancer | i love the mechanics. im not too familiar with mapbuilding as a whole, just units titans models textures and data related to that. id love to learn but just overwhelmed as to finding a good pla e to start |
| 09:07.27 | DivinityOne | its a random spawning trigger that spawns units randomly in a region with a settable distance from players... So i can make zombies spawn just outside sight range of players... looks like their comeing in out of the dark while players esxplore a deserted town |
| 09:08.39 | DivinityOne | If i do finish my map i can garantee it will be the number 1 played rpg on b.net ;p |
| 09:08.51 | DivinityOne | Which isnt saying much,.... as all the current ones really suck lol |
| 09:09.25 | DivinityOne | I just hope the maps not to small... i'm going to run into space issues quick as i exspand it |
| 09:09.35 | Technomancer | kinda true but some arent all sucky... |
| 09:10.04 | DivinityOne | name one :p |
| 09:10.09 | DivinityOne | some are okay at best ;p |
| 09:10.32 | DivinityOne | put alot of work in exspertise systems.. but their all run and gun... no real character dev beyond veterancy system |
| 09:10.34 | Technomancer | okay yeah not epic |
| 09:10.49 | DivinityOne | my boss battles will make ppl piss their pants :p |
| 09:10.56 | DivinityOne | not with diffiuclty but just fun |
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| 09:11.09 | Technomancer | whats ur expertise system |
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| 09:11.24 | DivinityOne | Sure you can make a boss out of all sorts of attached units.... but where are the mechanics? the mini game to boss battles :p |
| 09:11.36 | DivinityOne | they need to be fun, not tank and spank |
| 09:12.37 | Technomancer | i see |
| 09:13.38 | DivinityOne | If i could exsport that modle id be working on it right now to be a boss battle |
| 09:14.03 | DivinityOne | the super crane that uses grav fields to drag a unit closer... then picks them up and drops them in a ore shredder |
| 09:14.28 | DivinityOne | of course thats only if the other players dont hit the switches to power sure the bot... and make it release the captured player |
| 09:15.08 | DivinityOne | then it would throw boulders *literaly animated* among other things |
| 09:15.26 | Technomancer | u coding it all urself? |
| 09:15.31 | DivinityOne | yes |
| 09:15.33 | DivinityOne | its not hard |
| 09:15.44 | DivinityOne | animateing it would be |
| 09:16.12 | Technomancer | no i meant the whole rpg |
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| 09:16.30 | DivinityOne | yes |
| 09:16.58 | DivinityOne | The only thing i might ask for help on is designing/building the character sheet |
| 09:17.18 | Technomancer | kl kl |
| 09:17.49 | DivinityOne | Its going to be real insane to build... going to take me ages |
| 09:17.56 | DivinityOne | But a little bit every day |
| 09:18.37 | DivinityOne | The biggest issue i do need to solve is giveing civs wepons |
| 09:18.46 | Technomancer | well i gotta do a lot more research before i start |
| 09:19.16 | Technomancer | civs dont got attack anims |
| 09:19.16 | DivinityOne | If you have questions ask, i dont have every answer i jsut know how to design a game ;p The rest i learn as i need to. |
| 09:19.23 | DivinityOne | They have 1 |
| 09:19.31 | DivinityOne | But what i mean is id animate new ones |
| 09:19.40 | DivinityOne | also need to make a wep attachment point |
| 09:19.54 | DivinityOne | Let them use rifle, sniper etc |
| 09:19.56 | DivinityOne | like the marine |
| 09:19.59 | Technomancer | oh ya |
| 09:20.13 | Technomancer | well i |
| 09:20.22 | DivinityOne | Buuuut i cant do it sinc ei have the export error lol |
| 09:20.25 | Technomancer | ugh phone typing |
| 09:21.34 | Technomancer | im sure my questions will be possible for u since i just do unit related stuff |
| 09:22.21 | DivinityOne | Im no exspert i have 2 weeks exsperince at most with the editor :p but i learn fast haha |
| 09:22.30 | DivinityOne | At least with stuff like this. |
| 09:23.16 | Technomancer | as u know i got an rpg idea too but its not as dynamic. alternatively i wanna do a dota clone |
| 09:23.36 | DivinityOne | ugh... |
| 09:23.44 | DivinityOne | no intrest what so ever in dota |
| 09:23.56 | DivinityOne | but dota = like 100 billion times easyer then my rpg |
| 09:24.02 | Daara | video uploaded |
| 09:24.04 | Technomancer | but with a character that carries over... not quite dota just dotaish |
| 09:24.05 | Daara | now i can sleep |
| 09:24.06 | Daara | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qta9HLF-vdE |
| 09:24.10 | DivinityOne | i could make a dota in a day (minus the heros abilties of course) |
| 09:24.16 | DivinityOne | night daara |
| 09:24.18 | Technomancer | lol |
| 09:24.27 | Daara | make fun of my video plz :D |
| 09:24.38 | Daara | i put like an hour into it |
| 09:27.26 | Technomancer | oh its urs? |
| 09:27.55 | Technomancer | its...interesting |
| 09:28.11 | DivinityOne | Some random ass already commneted on it daara |
| 09:28.14 | DivinityOne | look at him |
| 09:28.16 | DivinityOne | pffft |
| 09:28.18 | Daara | o.O |
| 09:28.19 | DivinityOne | he needs a thumbs down |
| 09:28.27 | Daara | :D |
| 09:29.34 | DivinityOne | Im really tempted to add copy righted content like music and stuff to my map :p |
| 09:29.48 | DivinityOne | but when map store hits its going to make sure thoses maps that do cant be sold! |
| 09:29.50 | Daara | it can get taken down |
| 09:30.00 | Daara | even before the market place |
| 09:30.00 | DivinityOne | I know |
| 09:30.03 | DivinityOne | thats why i wont |
| 09:30.10 | DivinityOne | Well protecting bob has music in it :p |
| 09:30.19 | DivinityOne | its still up, but i guess no one cares acout that dong lol |
| 09:30.23 | DivinityOne | song* |
| 09:31.16 | DivinityOne | When i polish the first area of my map, i'll have you guys play test it. Wont be much actual content though, |
| 09:32.49 | DivinityOne | Anyway thing its time to call it a night |
| 09:33.12 | Technomancer | i want to do a gladiator style map with characters whose statd and inventory carry ovet |
| 09:33.53 | Technomancer | i got some framework but not for carrying over |
| 09:34.11 | Technomancer | to other games i mean |
| 09:34.15 | DivinityOne | Sounds like one of my other ideas, similar, a arena/game show type map where players begin as nobodys but train, equip up, and compet in PvE or even PvP terments for rewards, chicks, and of course victory :p |
| 09:35.10 | DivinityOne | Like with my current map the 'units' are just suits... which you slip on. So you can have the merader suit... equiping it turns you into a murader etc. |
| 09:35.27 | DivinityOne | But im guessing yours is dota isk :p spesific heros with spesific skill sets? |
| 09:36.00 | Technomancer | dota is kinda like that dude |
| 09:36.35 | Technomancer | only my idea involves a char u save, and its jyst pvp or pvb |
| 09:36.39 | DivinityOne | Well i wont elaberate my idea in detail (since its shelved for now) But tis as indpeth as my current one |
| 09:37.02 | DivinityOne | Banks are easy to do |
| 09:37.25 | DivinityOne | so carrying data over is easy :p its makeing everything else thats the hard part |
| 09:37.55 | DivinityOne | But i'll help you if you really want to make something, jsut ask |
| 09:38.07 | DivinityOne | I'll give you a hand |
| 09:38.30 | Technomancer | when i get there sure not just yet |
| 09:38.58 | Technomancer | doesnr help net is down.... |
| 09:40.17 | DivinityOne | I jsut thought of a funny idea :p the 'hulk' ling |
| 09:40.38 | DivinityOne | basicly a ling that once it reaches low hp it insta morphs into an ultra lol for a short time |
| 09:41.04 | Technomancer | i had an idea for equipping suits/armour too, its really intended to be YOUR char, not just 1 of many readymades |
| 09:41.07 | DivinityOne | animated inbetween with a egg that scales large before exsploding into an ultra |
| 09:41.25 | DivinityOne | Exactly thats exactly what im doing to |
| 09:41.30 | Technomancer | i made a zergling titan lol |
| 09:41.35 | DivinityOne | lol |
| 09:42.27 | DivinityOne | Well when i get to the point of makeing my equip system i might open source it and share |
| 09:42.31 | Technomancer | sauralisk. it even has anti air projectile a la brutalisk |
| 09:42.46 | DivinityOne | lol |
| 09:43.05 | DivinityOne | need to make face huggers... |
| 09:43.11 | DivinityOne | omg im going to make face huggers! |
| 09:43.35 | DivinityOne | Why didnt i think of that before.... |
| 09:43.46 | Technomancer | that wasnt so easy honestly, finding a proper place to launch from zergling |
| 09:44.04 | Technomancer | hmmm |
| 09:44.10 | DivinityOne | Approch a zerg egg... it explodes throwing something on you... then a behavor attaches a drone/something similar to your head attachment slot... |
| 09:44.22 | Technomancer | face |
| 09:44.34 | Technomancer | oops |
| 09:44.54 | DivinityOne | yea i think i could make face huggers in a hour with trial and error :p |
| 09:45.03 | DivinityOne | That would be neat |
| 09:45.05 | Technomancer | changeling unmorphed maybe lol |
| 09:45.17 | Technomancer | mmmm nvm |
| 09:45.17 | DivinityOne | that could work certinly |
| 09:45.45 | DivinityOne | or if i could animate a done to wrap around a face |
| 09:45.50 | Technomancer | idk |
| 09:45.52 | DivinityOne | woudn tbe hard... |
| 09:46.06 | Technomancer | could work |
| 09:46.18 | Technomancer | naw not really |
| 09:46.25 | DivinityOne | nuroperasites already spesificly deisgned to do the face hugger thing (but back of the neck) |
| 09:46.35 | DivinityOne | so jsut need to look at that skill a bit |
| 09:46.40 | DivinityOne | use a place holder for now... |
| 09:47.05 | DivinityOne | yea... if i remembe ri'll make a face hugger egg tomarrow... maybe even make a queen lay them... |
| 09:47.07 | Technomancer | theyre in the game already for neckhuggers? |
| 09:47.16 | DivinityOne | Like intead of creep toumor... she drops eggs |
| 09:47.38 | DivinityOne | the nuro parsite from the infester puts an actor on units it controls necks |
| 09:47.41 | Technomancer | not at all hard |
| 09:47.53 | DivinityOne | Yep very easy :p and fun idea |
| 09:48.08 | Technomancer | like it |
| 09:48.12 | DivinityOne | then have units fine... and random POP zerglings attack |
| 09:48.33 | DivinityOne | if zergling lives long enuph it morphs into hydra :3 |
| 09:48.50 | Technomancer | lol |
| 09:48.52 | DivinityOne | oh i could make a cheesy aliens map in a day or two |
| 09:49.14 | DivinityOne | complet with motiont rackers... and the aliens sound effects... |
| 09:49.22 | DivinityOne | ugh... take me a week to finish that map |
| 09:49.24 | Technomancer | like ripley's aliens? |
| 09:49.29 | DivinityOne | yea |
| 09:49.41 | Technomancer | haha nice |
| 09:49.46 | DivinityOne | motion trackers* |
| 09:49.56 | Technomancer | im makin new hybrid models |
| 09:49.57 | DivinityOne | i could make a full aliens map in a week if it was somple surival... |
| 09:50.14 | DivinityOne | nice, id like to see :p |
| 09:50.44 | DivinityOne | But looking at the time i really should go to bed. Was nice chatting btw. |
| 09:51.02 | Technomancer | not super hard rly just... epiphany. just take a while on textures |
| 09:51.04 | Technomancer | kk |
| 09:51.06 | Technomancer | nyt |
| 09:51.11 | Technomancer | me too |
| 09:51.13 | Technomancer | bye |
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| 13:27.27 | Fredypimp | Hey guys, anybody can play a map with me and give me some feedback about it? |
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| 13:51.27 | Ashamed | so i broked my pc last night >< |
| 13:51.39 | Ashamed | i had to load my registry hive from another partition of windows lol |
| 14:29.28 | Ashamed | everyone dead :( |
| 14:29.34 | Ashamed | http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/giants-win-super-bowl-xlvi-predicts-madden-nfl-170912803.html |
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| 15:50.32 | Ashamed | The new Final fantasy released ... i did not know this |
| 15:50.46 | Ashamed | but it kinda upsets me :( this seems like the first game they made in such a short amount of time. |
| 15:50.51 | Ashamed | I will still get it though |
| 15:54.37 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 15:54.52 | AlphA_VsT | i havnt played a fF game since 10x2 0.o |
| 15:55.19 | AlphA_VsT | or something like that |
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| 16:01.52 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 16:06.13 | AlphA_VsT | whats going on? |
| 16:14.29 | Ashamed | its anotehr x2 |
| 16:14.31 | Ashamed | its 13x2 |
| 16:15.31 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 16:16.30 | AlphA_VsT | i never played 12 :P i ignore 11 since it was a mmo :P |
| 16:17.08 | AlphA_VsT | wait maybe i did play 12 |
| 16:17.23 | Ashamed | i playe da bit of 12 but i didnt like it too much |
| 16:17.30 | Ashamed | i did play 11 it was my first mmo :) |
| 16:17.34 | Ashamed | i actually really enjoyed it |
| 16:17.46 | AlphA_VsT | oh I did play a bit of 12 never finsihed it... |
| 16:17.50 | Ashamed | but i beat 13 already |
| 16:17.59 | Ashamed | 13 wasn't as good as play |
| 16:18.03 | Ashamed | but the story was just as good |
| 16:19.14 | AlphA_VsT | idono im confused :P |
| 16:19.19 | AlphA_VsT | what ever |
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| 16:19.57 | AlphA_VsT | I really liked 9 :P |
| 16:19.59 | Batomys | Good morning |
| 16:20.17 | Batomys | How do I export a button icon from the editor while maintaining its transparency? |
| 16:20.43 | AlphA_VsT | huh? |
| 16:21.08 | Batomys | In the archive browser you can right click on an icon image and 'Export' but you cannot save that file. |
| 16:21.21 | Batomys | No matter what it is named, "invalid name". |
| 16:21.29 | AlphA_VsT | ? |
| 16:22.03 | Batomys | If you try to change the name, if you use what is there by default and hit 'save' nothing happens. It doesn't save, the dialog isn't dismissed. |
| 16:22.37 | Batomys | If you instead hit 'View File' the image pops up in a smaller window and you CAN export that image but it doesn't seem to maintain the transparency |
| 16:22.43 | AlphA_VsT | just use a mpq editor |
| 16:23.04 | Batomys | There has to be a way to export the icon without resorting to a third party tool |
| 16:24.11 | AlphA_VsT | why does it matter? |
| 16:25.16 | AlphA_VsT | it will give you the correct fiel path for when you reimport it into your map... |
| 16:25.38 | Batomys | I'm not overwriting any game files |
| 16:26.19 | AlphA_VsT | ... |
| 16:26.43 | AlphA_VsT | i didnt say you would... |
| 16:26.47 | AlphA_VsT | or are even... |
| 16:29.14 | AlphA_VsT | Have fun trying to figgure it the hard way i guess |
| 16:29.33 | Batomys | It just seems like the editor is broken with this |
| 16:29.49 | Ashamed | It aint broked just do what alpha said |
| 16:30.41 | Ashamed | batomy its because blizzard doesn't want to just give people access to their artwork and shit |
| 16:33.06 | AlphA_VsT | pretty much and going into the mpq isnt against any tos |
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| 16:41.39 | Batomys | Hrrrm, I assumed it was prohibited, but if that's the case and it's not against TOS I guess there's no reason not to |
| 16:41.47 | Batomys | Thnx for the tip, brb |
| 16:42.08 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 16:56.38 | Ashamed | TGIT |
| 16:56.43 | Ashamed | -.- only 3 more days left |
| 16:57.51 | Ashamed | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146073 |
| 16:57.57 | Ashamed | I bought that baby yesterday |
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| 17:24.15 | A1win | is there any sound in SC2 that'd work well as a level up sound? |
| 17:25.25 | A1win | hah, lost viking carrier birth |
| 17:25.43 | A1win | maybe a bit too long... |
| 17:26.22 | A1win | or maybe not |
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| 17:38.38 | Ashamed | AHHHhhhHhhHHHH |
| 17:43.19 | Ashamed | I said ahahhHHhHhhHHHhhHhh |
| 17:44.49 | Ashamed | http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/giants-win-super-bowl-xlvi-predicts-madden-nfl-170912803.html |
| 17:50.30 | AlphA_VsT | i think its silly how they use video games to predict that sort of thing |
| 18:12.41 | Ashamed | alpha thats not "Silly" at all |
| 18:13.44 | Ashamed | Maddan uses actual stats |
| 18:13.53 | Ashamed | so obv its not 100% |
| 18:14.12 | Ashamed | but if you look at teh numbers that would be the best guess |
| 18:17.16 | cook1es | i remember there was like a good interactive dialog maker, anyone know the link to it? tried to find it without luck |
| 18:17.43 | Ashamed | It was not good at all |
| 18:17.53 | Ashamed | just search for dialog creater |
| 18:18.06 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 18:18.23 | AlphA_VsT | i remember someone was going to work on one befoer i left... |
| 18:18.35 | Ashamed | mexa was trying to create an app |
| 18:18.41 | Ashamed | but the one they have currently is a sc2 map |
| 18:18.46 | Ashamed | its quite annoying i never liked it |
| 18:18.49 | cook1es | theres nothing when searching for dialog creator/creater |
| 18:18.54 | cook1es | any more ideas? |
| 18:18.57 | Ashamed | i found just messing around with my own dialogs and testing it worked better lol |
| 18:19.05 | AlphA_VsT | yeah |
| 18:20.14 | Mexa | Mine have been put on undetermined hold. |
| 18:20.29 | Mexa | Sorry about that. |
| 18:20.36 | AlphA_VsT | :P |
| 18:21.12 | AlphA_VsT | mexacant... not a mexacan |
| 18:21.22 | A1win | using dialogs gets easier by using them |
| 18:21.56 | cook1es | http://paste.static.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/project-workplace/14457-sc2-dialog-designer-map-beta-3-5/ is this a good go? |
| 18:21.58 | Mexa | Oh I'm a mexacan, but I need more mexatime. |
| 18:22.32 | Mexa | It's an ingame designer |
| 18:22.41 | Ashamed | http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/triggers/category-dialog/ |
| 18:22.43 | Ashamed | i think thats it |
| 18:22.50 | Ashamed | or the one tyou have is good too |
| 18:23.13 | cook1es | i wasnt asking for the wiki page for dialogs |
| 18:23.16 | Mexa | Ashamed, that's just the gui triggers. |
| 18:23.38 | Mexa | cook1es, the one you got there, I'm not sure it's useful enough. |
| 18:23.44 | cook1es | we may aswell make a visual basic gui to track the killers ip adress |
| 18:23.51 | Mexa | lol |
| 18:24.06 | Mexa | I know more of those:P |
| 18:24.18 | Mexa | http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2012/01/31/viruses-hacking-tv-movies/ |
| 18:24.22 | cook1es | can you enhance? |
| 18:24.41 | Mexa | About dialogs, there's another one, still unstable |
| 18:25.19 | Mexa | It's featured in this galaxy editor http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/third-party-tools/19619-galaxy-editor |
| 18:26.24 | Mexa | But it's with inaccuracies, so I don't know. |
| 18:26.44 | Mexa | I think I've said it before, to someone else. |
| 18:27.28 | cook1es | I guess I'll just have to click that Test Document button another 100 times |
| 18:28.24 | Mexa | Unfortunantly:x |
| 18:29.08 | A1win | if you keep the game running, it takes a lot less time to load the map again |
| 18:29.27 | Mexa | It still consumes lots of memory |
| 18:29.28 | A1win | if your computer can handle it running while the editor is open |
| 18:29.38 | A1win | mm... but not too much for me at least |
| 18:29.47 | AlphA_VsT | yeah |
| 18:29.58 | Mexa | And having sc2 opened at the same time as the terrain editor gives an overhead on the graphics card |
| 18:30.12 | cook1es | My editor is the slowest sh*t ever, there must be something wrong with it |
| 18:30.12 | AlphA_VsT | if yoru doing triggers... |
| 18:30.19 | AlphA_VsT | you dont need the terrain open |
| 18:30.25 | Mexa | I suppose not |
| 18:30.36 | AlphA_VsT | and exiting the level when your done testing helps also |
| 18:30.41 | Mexa | Assuming they don't use the graphcis card to render the trigger editor context:P |
| 18:30.53 | A1win | the editor is slow even on fast computers... maybe a SSD hard disk could help |
| 18:31.06 | A1win | what do you mean by overhead? |
| 18:31.19 | Mexa | Well, you have the game open, and it renders the world |
| 18:31.25 | Mexa | And then you also have the editor open |
| 18:31.31 | Mexa | Which also renders the world |
| 18:31.44 | A1win | what's the problem with that+ |
| 18:31.46 | A1win | ? |
| 18:32.11 | Mexa | They will fight for the graphics card, so either one of them will have a decreased fps, or both of them. |
| 18:32.29 | A1win | well obviously ;p |
| 18:32.37 | A1win | but if it's not too bad, it doesn't matter |
| 18:33.00 | Mexa | It's also relative the computer and the graphics card ofc. |
| 18:33.15 | Mexa | And what settings the game and the editor runs on. |
| 18:34.08 | A1win | my intro feels lame, but I still think I need a short intro to make the players realize the situation they're in before they need to start doing things |
| 18:34.13 | asedt | I have a wery old computer and bad grafick card, no problem running the editor, I'm obvious using lowest settings |
| 18:34.24 | A1win | now it's just a 15 sec camera zoom-out with a couple of lines of text |
| 18:34.49 | Mexa | Yeah, lowest setting should be more of a breeze too:P |
| 18:35.22 | Mexa | Too bad it lacks most of the shaders and lighting. |
| 18:36.02 | Mexa | A1win, what's the map about? |
| 18:36.49 | A1win | now the intro says "The Xel'Naga have left many secrets in the depths of Ulaan." "We must unlock their ancient vaults and research the contents." |
| 18:38.17 | A1win | wouldn't want any more text than that, but dunno if that's exactly how I want it either |
| 18:40.42 | A1win | I think the intro basically should make the players aware of the main objective, and then in-game "tutorial" guides them with the rest |
| 18:43.42 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
| 18:47.08 | Mexa | wb! |
| 18:47.40 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 19:00.51 | Vailreth | im here |
| 19:01.14 | A1win | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CqRMPT1hdk any ideas how to improve this intro without too much work? =p |
| 19:01.22 | A1win | (it's pretty lame atm) |
| 19:02.27 | A1win | ..why do I even use that portrait, it isn't playing any important role anymore now that I don't have any other NPCs in |
| 19:05.32 | JademusSreg | Yeah, no NPCs, no need for a portrait, I agree. |
| 19:05.55 | JademusSreg | Do new players get tips and hints and shit? |
| 19:06.47 | A1win | there's just one tip now about status bars, I've been trying to make the start as intuitive as possible, and adding "personal objectives" are doing a pretty good job at it |
| 19:07.02 | JademusSreg | I mean instead of just text, as is common, I mean like flashing the unit top which the tip applies as these things are encountered. |
| 19:07.13 | A1win | "mine some resources", "pick up some resources from a building", "return cargo to command cetner", "build a structure", "attach a power cable" |
| 19:07.26 | JademusSreg | Such as flashing the SCV and a rock whilts informing the player to start mining, for example. |
| 19:07.41 | JademusSreg | *whilst |
| 19:08.24 | A1win | dunno if that's necessary |
| 19:09.15 | JademusSreg | I can say with high confidence that players do not read shit. |
| 19:09.59 | A1win | yeah I've noticed ;p I've been reducing the amount of text by a lot |
| 19:10.33 | A1win | do you think they'd read the objectives, though? |
| 19:11.08 | JademusSreg | If it's on the screen and not hidden behind a menu, there is a higher chance. |
| 19:11.09 | Vailreth | voice overs! |
| 19:11.21 | Vailreth | i kid |
| 19:11.41 | JademusSreg | When a player first starts, if you slap a player with a bunch of junk on the screen, they tend to disassociate from the overflow of information. |
| 19:14.30 | JademusSreg | This is analogous to critical theorist Jean Baudrillard's idea of "hyper reality", wherein the sheer volume of options and information make a rational, optimal decision impossible, making decisions in response to that information arbitrary, or heuristic at best. |
| 19:14.34 | A1win | the only thing hidden behind a menu is the hint that says that having status bars on helps |
| 19:19.30 | A1win | a loading screen picture that shows what the players will be doing in the game would help... like a drawing of an SCV mining a rock while a turret is killing some zerg in the background, or something |
| 19:20.06 | Ashamed | so the new final fantasy i s only 1 disk... >< they say its because they create the cut scenes to be in game and it has the same amount of content.. but i am not sure.... |
| 19:20.17 | Ashamed | i don't get how you go from 3 disk to 1 and have the same content >< |
| 19:20.53 | A1win | videos take a lot of space |
| 19:21.33 | A1win | dunno how much cutscenes there are, though ;p |
| 19:22.07 | JademusSreg | Then you should assume either technology is magic and beyond mortal ken, or assume the company is attempting to surreptitiously copulate with your rectum. |
| 19:23.39 | AlphA_VsT | dvd can hold a lot of data now also |
| 19:24.38 | AlphA_VsT | like almost 10gb on a dual layer dvd |
| 19:24.46 | AlphA_VsT | i can see it being possible |
| 19:25.31 | AlphA_VsT | and blue rays can hold what 25gb? |
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| 19:25.54 | Mexa | 50 |
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| 19:26.22 | AlphA_VsT | yeah so not being able to fit a game on a single disk is kinda silly :D |
| 19:26.52 | Mexa | (or rather, 25GB single layered, 50GB dual layered) |
| 19:27.16 | Fredypimp | Guys, how do we temporarily remove colisions with triggers (like when doing custom spells with triggers) |
| 19:27.37 | AlphA_VsT | do ps3 use bluerays or dvd's for games? |
| 19:27.54 | Mexa | I recall blurays |
| 19:28.05 | Mexa | But many ps3 games does not utilize the entire capacity |
| 19:28.14 | AlphA_VsT | of course not :D |
| 19:29.35 | Mexa | On July 20, 2010, the research team of Sony and Japanese Tohoku University announced the joint development of a blue-violet laser,[161] which will help in creating Blu-ray discs with a capacity of 1 TB (dual layer). :3 |
| 19:29.46 | AlphA_VsT | I mean what wow only takes up 20 gb currently or so |
| 19:30.06 | AlphA_VsT | wtf 1tb 0.o |
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| 19:30.35 | Mexa | mm .-. |
| 19:30.43 | AlphA_VsT | i would hate to see how long it would take to write data to that... |
| 19:31.15 | Mexa | Oh you know, the blue-violet laser might also have faster disc reading and writing. |
| 19:32.01 | AlphA_VsT | I would would hope so :D |
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| 19:32.16 | AlphA_VsT | liek x256 :D |
| 19:32.30 | Mexa | http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201007/10-0720E/index.html seems like it is faster indeed |
| 19:33.11 | AlphA_VsT | crazy |
| 19:34.52 | Ashamed | alpha the other final fantasy came out 2 years ago |
| 19:35.02 | Ashamed | so the ability to put more data on dvds has not changed |
| 19:35.22 | Ashamed | if the cutscenes arein game i wonder if that means they cut out most of the CG |
| 19:35.38 | Ashamed | which does not make sense to me because its square enix.. its pretty much the only thing they got going still lol |
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| 19:36.46 | DivinityOne | hmm |
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| 19:39.21 | AlphA_VsT | ops wrong button :D |
| 19:39.28 | Ashamed | yeah it seems like they took out their famouse CG cutscense for this game |
| 19:39.31 | Ashamed | ... thats something new |
| 19:39.41 | Ashamed | its all in game graphics.... |
| 19:39.48 | Ashamed | I think thats a first... |
| 19:39.51 | AlphA_VsT | and did ingame ones |
| 19:40.01 | Ashamed | yeah just in game scenes |
| 19:40.06 | Ashamed | no seperate cutscenes |
| 19:40.16 | AlphA_VsT | nothing wrong with that |
| 19:40.25 | Ashamed | Its just not Final fantasy |
| 19:40.35 | Ashamed | I mean music and graphics is what they know best :( |
| 19:40.57 | Ashamed | they did it because they already had all the graphics done from the other game |
| 19:41.06 | Ashamed | and they didnt want to go over and create a million CG scenes lol |
| 19:42.32 | AlphA_VsT | idono if the trailer was ingame then i dont see a problem :P |
| 19:43.08 | Vailreth | i preordered and got the costume and bow |
| 19:43.19 | AlphA_VsT | preordered what? |
| 19:43.37 | Vailreth | ffxiii2 |
| 19:44.38 | AlphA_VsT | oh |
| 19:45.06 | AlphA_VsT | well in other news mozialla is pissing me off with its update seclude... |
| 19:45.14 | AlphA_VsT | they just release version 10 today... |
| 19:45.34 | Vailreth | hm |
| 19:45.51 | AlphA_VsT | I think they forgot what it means to release with major improvments |
| 19:46.22 | AlphA_VsT | this should be like version 6.5 lol |
| 19:46.36 | Vailreth | yes |
| 19:46.48 | AlphA_VsT | instead its been version 6.0 ver 7.0... |
| 19:47.02 | AlphA_VsT | pisses me off |
| 19:47.19 | DivinityOne | Ugh... |
| 19:47.35 | DivinityOne | i need to plan what i do today... attempt character sheet... or make actual content for my map |
| 19:48.28 | Vailreth | i need to either make the character select dialogs or finish the selcable characters |
| 19:49.50 | Ashamed | lol |
| 19:49.53 | Ashamed | you got a custome and bow |
| 19:49.53 | AlphA_VsT | I am doign the logic for the computer upgrades |
| 19:49.55 | AlphA_VsT | yaya |
| 19:49.56 | AlphA_VsT | yay |
| 19:49.58 | Ashamed | i just went and bought it vail |
| 19:50.06 | Ashamed | i got 15% the special edition book though |
| 19:50.07 | Vailreth | ah |
| 19:50.08 | Ashamed | lol |
| 19:50.29 | Ashamed | I dont know... like i feel like the graphics are great and they can do the ingame cut scenes |
| 19:50.32 | Ashamed | but its just not them... |
| 19:50.58 | DivinityOne | It hasnt bene them sicne ff 9 |
| 19:51.00 | Vailreth | hmm |
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| 19:51.21 | Ashamed | divinity i am not talking about game play |
| 19:51.30 | Ashamed | i am just tlaking about CGI here |
| 19:51.51 | DivinityOne | 10 was eeehhh... x2 was bleh... 12.... should have been an mmo, 13 CRAP 14... jsut wrong |
| 19:51.52 | AlphA_VsT | i loved FF9 :D |
| 19:52.04 | AlphA_VsT | they amde a 14? |
| 19:52.07 | DivinityOne | <--still a huge 7 fan |
| 19:52.15 | Ashamed | I can't believe they took out CGI |
| 19:52.16 | JademusSreg | I didn't care for 7. |
| 19:52.18 | Ashamed | like i am in shock |
| 19:52.37 | DivinityOne | takeing out cgi saved them ALOT of money |
| 19:52.43 | Ashamed | i know |
| 19:52.43 | DivinityOne | they no longer have faith in the series |
| 19:52.51 | DivinityOne | their sjut milking the title |
| 19:52.53 | Ashamed | which makes it seem like they aare fluffing it more and more |
| 19:52.54 | Vailreth | i dont see why i just skipped it all in 13 |
| 19:52.54 | DivinityOne | its a dead end |
| 19:53.12 | Ashamed | divinity which sucks is each time they talk they are like we are bringing it back this one will be it |
| 19:53.14 | DivinityOne | 13 was terrible |
| 19:53.16 | Ashamed | and then you get the game and you go WTF |
| 19:53.34 | Ashamed | 13 wasn't terrible.... now compared to Final Fantasy it was bad |
| 19:53.35 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 19:53.37 | Ashamed | but the game was fun at least |
| 19:53.38 | Vailreth | they think they are revolutionizing the genre |
| 19:53.52 | DivinityOne | Their killing it |
| 19:53.58 | Ashamed | they took out the stupid progessiveness they put in 13 |
| 19:54.01 | Ashamed | so thats good |
| 19:54.09 | Vailreth | that the final fantasy franchise is going to evolve into a new higher genre of game |
| 19:54.10 | Ashamed | you can now swap characters whenever |
| 19:54.13 | DivinityOne | Just like resident evil killed itself... at least the newest RE is finaly back to real zombies |
| 19:54.14 | Ashamed | and level them as high as you would like |
| 19:54.15 | Ashamed | lol |
| 19:54.37 | DivinityOne | COuld do that in 10 |
| 19:54.44 | DivinityOne | switch characters mid battle |
| 19:54.45 | DivinityOne | etc |
| 19:54.46 | Ashamed | you could do that in any game besides 13 |
| 19:54.57 | Ashamed | well i am more talking about the liner shit |
| 19:55.02 | Vailreth | 12 tried to be a movie |
| 19:55.04 | Ashamed | but yeah the character swap i am guessing with be like 10 |
| 19:55.06 | Vailreth | 13 not 12 |
| 19:55.23 | Ashamed | yeah i am happy they took that part out |
| 19:55.28 | DivinityOne | I could have enjoed 13 if it didnt have such terrible writeing |
| 19:55.37 | DivinityOne | i really coudnt stand hope |
| 19:55.37 | Ashamed | i enjoyed the movie aspect of 13.. but it looks like they cut that idea |
| 19:55.42 | DivinityOne | that kid needed to die... |
| 19:55.49 | Ashamed | lol i feel the same divinity |
| 19:55.51 | Ashamed | i hated hope |
| 19:56.00 | Ashamed | but i feel like they always have that one character that you will never use |
| 19:56.15 | Ashamed | lil pussy kid |
| 19:56.24 | DivinityOne | sophie :p |
| 19:56.26 | DivinityOne | for 8 |
| 19:56.30 | Ashamed | lol |
| 19:56.35 | Ashamed | cid from 7 |
| 19:56.37 | DivinityOne | i never really used arith |
| 19:56.40 | Ashamed | kamari from 10 |
| 19:56.41 | DivinityOne | cid = bad ass |
| 19:56.42 | DivinityOne | wth |
| 19:56.46 | DivinityOne | he was awsome |
| 19:56.52 | Ashamed | i didnt like cid >< |
| 19:56.55 | DivinityOne | yuffe was a front liner in my aprty too |
| 19:57.07 | DivinityOne | i never used vincent in party... |
| 19:57.11 | Ashamed | what! |
| 19:57.12 | DivinityOne | his limit break was crap |
| 19:57.15 | AlphA_VsT | how could you not use sophie |
| 19:57.32 | DivinityOne | I didnt like her |
| 19:57.33 | AlphA_VsT | :P |
| 19:58.01 | Vailreth | selphie |
| 19:58.11 | DivinityOne | Zell was awsome |
| 19:58.18 | DivinityOne | What an idiot... but awsome in battle |
| 19:58.30 | DivinityOne | or whatever his name was... |
| 19:58.50 | Vailreth | zell was cool |
| 19:59.00 | JademusSreg | Final Fantasy: Since 1997, the series has been known for its prolific production of vapid androgynous angst-ejaculating characters saving the world from David Bowie, all while vomiting a veritable stew of seizure-inducing numbers if a character so much as slaps an enemy. |
| 19:59.01 | Vailreth | irvine was [....]akward |
| 19:59.11 | Vailreth | .... |
| 19:59.11 | DivinityOne | I agree lol |
| 19:59.18 | DivinityOne | He was such a vergin |
| 19:59.54 | DivinityOne | For ocne i actualy did like the woman counterpart |
| 19:59.59 | Vailreth | liked his limit break though |
| 20:00.00 | DivinityOne | ronia was nice |
| 20:00.35 | Vailreth | yes especially once becoming the sorceress and gaining Angel Wing limit |
| 20:00.50 | DivinityOne | I dated yuffe in ff7, i said screw the clingy chick and quiet flwoer girl, im dateing the fun one! |
| 20:01.11 | Ashamed | the one that steals from you! |
| 20:01.12 | Ashamed | Woot! |
| 20:01.16 | DivinityOne | Yea |
| 20:01.20 | DivinityOne | she = best chick in ff7 |
| 20:01.32 | DivinityOne | love her final and ehr morph ability |
| 20:01.38 | Ashamed | i like that you can get her pretty early if you know what you are doing |
| 20:01.40 | DivinityOne | all creation! BOOOOOOOOm |
| 20:01.58 | DivinityOne | It gets weaker end game but early on... its jsut sick |
| 20:02.17 | Vailreth | that reminds me of selphies The End |
| 20:02.33 | DivinityOne | Selfie coudnt turn huge monsters into power tabs... |
| 20:02.37 | DivinityOne | :p |
| 20:02.44 | Vailreth | no |
| 20:03.14 | DivinityOne | Rikku was my fav in 10 clearly... |
| 20:03.18 | DivinityOne | coudnt stand yuna... |
| 20:03.35 | DivinityOne | i actualy focused so much on rikku that she 2 hit the final boss/summner dude... |
| 20:03.54 | DivinityOne | She was like 'No sweat!" |
| 20:04.55 | DivinityOne | ff 10 actualy let you make a character that felt godlike after you got their ultimate wepon |
| 20:05.01 | Vailreth | in 8 i loved the apocalypse spell |
| 20:06.00 | DivinityOne | One issue i ahd with 8 was to power level your poeple properly you where suppost to blitz to end game... beacuse the monsters level up/buff up, faster then you.... |
| 20:06.14 | DivinityOne | So your stats are always falling behind if you ground exp and levels in early areas |
| 20:06.46 | Vailreth | the game featured a system that kept the monsters a few levels higher than the average of the party |
| 20:07.16 | Vailreth | i always had to level up monsters with the level up ability and fighte them |
| 20:07.25 | AlphA_VsT | ff10 boss was way to fucking easy |
| 20:07.31 | DivinityOne | But while they got bonsu stats on levels, players didnt beacuse they didnt get access to bonus stats yet :p |
| 20:07.46 | DivinityOne | ff10 was way to easy period |
| 20:07.55 | AlphA_VsT | yeah true |
| 20:08.00 | Vailreth | no but juctioning the right magic could break the early game badly |
| 20:08.20 | DivinityOne | lol you dont untion in 10 |
| 20:08.24 | DivinityOne | juntion* |
| 20:08.24 | Vailreth | ff8s biggest flaw was the small magic inventory |
| 20:08.34 | DivinityOne | you unlock the sphear grid |
| 20:08.44 | AlphA_VsT | i didnt like at all |
| 20:08.50 | DivinityOne | That and the drediculess long time it took to draw it max stacks |
| 20:08.54 | Vailreth | right i was talking about 8 still |
| 20:09.00 | JademusSreg | I like the Sphere Grid. Level systems are antiquated. |
| 20:09.17 | DivinityOne | sphear grid really was fun |
| 20:09.23 | DivinityOne | but look that they did in 13 LOL |
| 20:09.27 | DivinityOne | linear much? |
| 20:09.55 | AlphA_VsT | OMG MY HULU QUE IS 35 |
| 20:09.56 | DivinityOne | Why the hell did they even have player interaction for levls in 13... |
| 20:09.57 | AlphA_VsT | FUCK ME |
| 20:10.01 | DivinityOne | it was only a strait path |
| 20:10.10 | Vailreth | 13 was way to linear but then it was really just a movie with really playable seqences |
| 20:10.26 | DivinityOne | A terrible movie... |
| 20:10.37 | Vailreth | yes |
| 20:10.43 | DivinityOne | i never finished it |
| 20:10.55 | Vailreth | i skipped 90% of the movies |
| 20:10.55 | DivinityOne | dont plan to either |
| 20:11.00 | DivinityOne | i completly lsot intrest |
| 20:11.00 | Vailreth | me neither |
| 20:11.19 | Vailreth | yeah i just watched some one else beat the game and that was that |
| 20:11.39 | DivinityOne | anywya back to sc2.... a list box can have clickable links? or is it just a list of text? |
| 20:11.43 | Vailreth | i did enjoy the combat though |
| 20:11.47 | JademusSreg | I do not understand why people enjoy much of the final fantasy series. |
| 20:12.20 | DivinityOne | the early ones where awsome 7 = my fav. 8 was okay... 9 was classic (i didnt beat it but i did like it) ten was fun... but not amazing |
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| 20:12.42 | Vailreth | a lot of people i think have too much invested in the series to even consider its not still fun |
| 20:12.48 | DivinityOne | I take them with a grain is salt, i have my fav and thats all that matters :p I personal liked them for their techy settings |
| 20:12.53 | Helral | meows |
| 20:13.05 | DivinityOne | ITs gotten very unfun recently lol |
| 20:13.14 | Vailreth | square enix is very much in that boat |
| 20:13.18 | JademusSreg | Number vomit is bad visual design, levels are an antiquated progress mechanic, grinding is bad gameplay design. |
| 20:13.21 | DivinityOne | im not buying 13x2 or whatever till i ehar good things |
| 20:13.44 | AlphA_VsT | i havnt touched a ff game since 10 lol |
| 20:13.50 | Vailreth | play the demo |
| 20:14.19 | DivinityOne | Anyway no one answered me if lsit dialgue is just for text or i cna actualy list elements inside it like skills with a progress bar |
| 20:14.41 | Vailreth | i have no clue |
| 20:14.51 | DivinityOne | get one! |
| 20:15.05 | Vailreth | why not try to make one and see |
| 20:15.18 | DivinityOne | beacuse that would be the smart thing to do... |
| 20:15.28 | Vailreth | nice |
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| 20:16.04 | DivinityOne | i dont want to work on it if i know it wont work right now. so i can focus on other things.... like makeing a zergling dance... :p |
| 20:16.35 | DivinityOne | Look at it spin about! SO cute! "rawr!" *zergling to the face* gahhh! |
| 20:17.22 | DivinityOne | Errr maybe i can do what i want... |
| 20:17.30 | DivinityOne | if i store the data in an array... |
| 20:17.32 | DivinityOne | gmmm |
| 20:17.33 | DivinityOne | hmmm* |
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| 20:21.36 | Helral | lsit dialgue? |
| 20:22.05 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 20:22.30 | Helral | first word is prolly list but can't make out the 2nd one.... |
| 20:23.51 | DivinityOne | dialog :p |
| 20:23.59 | DivinityOne | i has a typeing lisp |
| 20:25.26 | AlphA_VsT | :P |
| 20:25.41 | DivinityOne | Quick question si the terrain building animation part of the models? |
| 20:27.30 | AlphA_VsT | its normally a diffrent model |
| 20:28.02 | AlphA_VsT | thats why they have model values for... build and place and such |
| 20:28.24 | DivinityOne | That will work great then.... *notes it* |
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| 20:42.54 | Vailreth | any one with a clue how to test the race of a player in a condition for an index in an array with out having to do them all individually? |
| 20:43.18 | AlphA_VsT | um... |
| 20:43.48 | AlphA_VsT | have you tried race of player... |
| 20:43.54 | Vailreth | yes |
| 20:44.06 | AlphA_VsT | why wont that work? |
| 20:44.58 | Vailreth | because i dont know how to get the race for each player in the index at the same time and draw them a diffrent dialog based on race |
| 20:45.06 | AlphA_VsT | do a loop |
| 20:45.11 | AlphA_VsT | do an if |
| 20:45.21 | Vailreth | im using an if then else |
| 20:45.31 | AlphA_VsT | then on the if... |
| 20:45.33 | Vailreth | but i dont know how to create the condition |
| 20:45.42 | AlphA_VsT | do a race of player index of the loop |
| 20:45.53 | Vailreth | how? |
| 20:46.12 | AlphA_VsT | if is a condtion... |
| 20:47.05 | Vailreth | i know that |
| 20:47.34 | Vailreth | what i dont know is how to get the index |
| 20:47.35 | AlphA_VsT | (Race of player index[loop value]) == Protoss |
| 20:47.55 | Vailreth | how do i do that |
| 20:48.04 | Vailreth | i have up to race of player |
| 20:48.09 | AlphA_VsT | select race of player... |
| 20:48.17 | AlphA_VsT | the default index is trigger player |
| 20:48.22 | AlphA_VsT | click triggering player |
| 20:48.30 | AlphA_VsT | select your int of your loop |
| 20:49.53 | Vailreth | ok |
| 20:50.32 | AlphA_VsT | not that complex :P |
| 20:50.37 | Vailreth | it is to me |
| 20:51.56 | AlphA_VsT | well your dumb |
| 20:52.02 | Vailreth | no im not |
| 20:54.31 | JademusSreg | *you're |
| 20:54.38 | AlphA_VsT | thank you :D |
| 20:54.58 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 20:57.27 | AlphA_VsT | you so sweet |
| 20:58.22 | JademusSreg | So my wife tells me. I just don't see it. |
| 20:58.25 | AlphA_VsT | I was just kidding also :D |
| 20:58.34 | AlphA_VsT | well to vailreth :P |
| 20:58.50 | Vailreth | ah |
| 20:59.02 | Ashamed | AHHHHHHHHHH |
| 20:59.05 | Vailreth | triggers leave me out side of a mood for jokes |
| 21:01.27 | Vailreth | i cant seem to make the loop like you are describing |
| 21:03.22 | AlphA_VsT | did you do a for each interger? |
| 21:03.32 | Vailreth | no |
| 21:03.34 | AlphA_VsT | and put your then if else inside it... |
| 21:03.37 | AlphA_VsT | well ther eyou go |
| 21:03.56 | Vailreth | how do i use a for each int |
| 21:04.26 | AlphA_VsT | for each integer... do this... |
| 21:04.32 | Ashamed | if then else |
| 21:04.35 | Ashamed | if integer this |
| 21:04.37 | Ashamed | fuck your mon |
| 21:04.38 | Ashamed | mom* |
| 21:04.43 | Ashamed | if integer this fuck your dad |
| 21:04.49 | AlphA_VsT | yeah |
| 21:04.55 | Vailreth | ... |
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| 21:05.13 | AlphA_VsT | the integer loops through the value from 1 through #... |
| 21:05.24 | AlphA_VsT | and it will do the actions in it for each value |
| 21:05.38 | Vailreth | how does that work with an array? |
| 21:05.55 | AlphA_VsT | you loop through the array... |
| 21:06.02 | AlphA_VsT | so array[loop] |
| 21:06.16 | AlphA_VsT | set the range to the max value of your array |
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| 21:07.01 | AlphA_VsT | not that complex :D |
| 21:07.37 | Vailreth | like i said it is for me i have maybe 1 week of trigger expeince over a year and bearly any programing experince |
| 21:08.56 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 21:12.04 | AlphA_VsT | well triggers are made for people with no experience |
| 21:15.11 | AlphA_VsT | its not like you are not getting into structs or custom functions... or things like that |
| 21:27.16 | Vailreth | i see |
| 21:27.23 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 21:28.10 | AlphA_VsT | whew i jsut got done with figguring out 1 value :D |
| 21:28.23 | Ashamed | WTF i have a feeling this new final fantasy is going to be a new low for disapointing |
| 21:28.41 | AlphA_VsT | ARE you still on that? |
| 21:28.53 | Ashamed | i am at work and i have just been reading about it for the last 2 hours |
| 21:28.59 | Ashamed | i just went out and bought it on my lunch... |
| 21:29.02 | Ashamed | so yes i am still on it |
| 21:29.10 | Ashamed | i just found out it only has 2 playable characters |
| 21:29.22 | Ashamed | its like ffx-2 but even worse! |
| 21:29.58 | Ashamed | instead of going with just 3 like ffx-2 they decided to make it one less -.- |
| 21:30.07 | Ashamed | even though every final fantasy has an entire cast of characters |
| 21:30.42 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 21:30.43 | AlphA_VsT | wow |
| 21:31.03 | AlphA_VsT | yeah ff games have always had like at least 8 chars to play |
| 21:42.51 | Ashamed | well i mean ffx-2 did that 3 character game chick power shit |
| 21:43.09 | Ashamed | so i feel like they are trying to give it the same feel as x-2 but its stupid still :( |
| 21:48.52 | AlphA_VsT | lol yeah |
| 21:49.02 | AlphA_VsT | it was a nice system :P |
| 21:49.07 | AlphA_VsT | but more chars would be nice |
| 21:59.46 | Ashamed | i guess you can summon monasters that you kill to fill the 3rd spot |
| 21:59.48 | Ashamed | fucken gay |
| 21:59.55 | DivinityOne | I think im dont designing my starter town... |
| 21:59.57 | Ashamed | i will go try it and tell you how upset i was with it tomorrow |
| 22:00.04 | DivinityOne | Now to make it funtional :p |
| 22:00.09 | Ashamed | i am going home |
| 22:04.42 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 22:04.46 | AlphA_VsT | oh joy |
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| 22:15.46 | Demonette | hi guys =) |
| 22:16.08 | Demonette | how can i use Pi an E in functions? |
| 22:16.19 | Demonette | hi helral =) |
| 22:19.56 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 22:20.00 | AlphA_VsT | no idea |
| 22:20.59 | A1win | Demonette, just use an approximation, the reals are very inaccurate anyway |
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| 22:21.18 | Demonette | Mmmhh okay =( |
| 22:21.19 | ReY | hello |
| 22:21.22 | A1win | they are fixed point values |
| 22:21.34 | Demonette | Yeah i understand |
| 22:22.24 | Demonette | is there any "more" accurate type in the galaxy editor? |
| 22:22.33 | A1win | nope :\ |
| 22:22.38 | Demonette | =/ |
| 22:22.38 | Guest37275 | can anyone tell me where i can set how much experience a unit gives when it gets killed? (I have the veterancy behavior and gave it to my "heros" and set up when they should level up etc) |
| 22:22.58 | Demonette | but reals only support about 4 signs after 0 |
| 22:23.02 | Demonette | . |
| 22:23.04 | Demonette | .... |
| 22:23.06 | Demonette | or? |
| 22:23.56 | Demonette | Well it will try it for my gauss function =) |
| 22:24.02 | Demonette | -t |
| 22:25.42 | Guest37275 | nobody can tell me? :/ |
| 22:27.31 | DivinityOne | Ugh now i need to make convo dilagos.... joy! |
| 22:27.34 | DivinityOne | dialogs* |
| 22:28.27 | DivinityOne | GUest its under the unit |
| 22:28.29 | DivinityOne | Combat |
| 22:28.36 | DivinityOne | Combat: Kill exsperiance |
| 22:29.24 | Guest37275 | i dont see that |
| 22:29.40 | Guest37275 | i googled and got that info aswell but my units dont have that entry under its data entry |
| 22:30.17 | Helral | meow |
| 22:30.49 | Guest37275 | i go to the data editor ---> open the "Units" tab ---> search for my unit in the list and click it ---> the only entry with "Combat:" is "Combat: Weapons: +" |
| 22:31.22 | Helral | at the top there are a few buttons, click the combine button there to uncombine the values. |
| 22:31.25 | DivinityOne | type exp in the filer to the right |
| 22:31.27 | Helral | it should become visible then. |
| 22:31.28 | DivinityOne | it will pop up |
| 22:31.32 | Helral | or that |
| 22:31.34 | Helral | ;p |
| 22:32.31 | AlphA_VsT | he needs advanced values on doesnt he? |
| 22:33.05 | Helral | could be ;p |
| 22:34.07 | Guest37275 | ok it was the "Show advanced values" button at the top |
| 22:34.11 | Guest37275 | thanks for help <3<3<3 |
| 22:34.22 | DivinityOne | You know owe us your soul. |
| 22:34.25 | DivinityOne | now* |
| 22:34.30 | Guest37275 | :( |
| 22:34.40 | Guest37275 | you stole my name already ! |
| 22:34.42 | Guest37275 | :D |
| 22:34.52 | Guest37275 | thats almost like my soul |
| 22:34.55 | Guest37275 | so we're quit |
| 22:35.32 | DivinityOne | Afk to attempt dialog conversation windows... and get some food page me if needed |
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| 22:45.21 | Vailreth | i really need to start doing all of my Pre-production... Pre Prooduction |
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| 22:51.36 | 50UAACKL3 | =( |
| 22:51.36 | 50UAACKL3 | why is there no pow function? |
| 22:51.47 | Deaod | there should be. |
| 22:51.57 | 50UAACKL3 | only a pow of 2 |
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| 22:52.57 | Deaod | native fixed Pow (fixed x, fixed power); |
| 22:52.58 | 50UAACKL3 | oh found it |
| 22:53.00 | 50UAACKL3 | yeah |
| 22:53.13 | 50UAACKL3 | it's named stupid in at that localization |
| 22:53.14 | 50UAACKL3 | thx |
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| 23:19.24 | Vailreth | i have been thinking that mapster needs a sister site for regular players instead of mappers and modders |
| 23:34.00 | AlphA_VsT | time to test this... |
| 23:34.05 | AlphA_VsT | i hope it works :( |
| 23:34.22 | AlphA_VsT | What would it be for? |
| 23:35.58 | Vailreth | for advertising and communit about the maps them selves and less the creation of them |
| 23:36.53 | Deaod | i think theres a reason such a site doesnt exist |
| 23:38.03 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 23:38.23 | Vailreth | likely |
| 23:39.07 | DivinityOne | has anyone made covnersations with cameras and options yet? |
| 23:39.17 | DivinityOne | i need to find a turorial on them i think |
| 23:39.19 | Vailreth | not i |
| 23:39.45 | DivinityOne | Have my first town built |
| 23:39.53 | DivinityOne | now i need to make convos for all the main NPC's |
| 23:40.25 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 23:46.30 | AlphA_VsT | i need a mathy question |
| 23:46.38 | AlphA_VsT | answerd :D |
| 23:47.08 | AlphA_VsT | Weighted values[(Clamp (Count - 1) between 1 and Totall Weighted Items)] <= Random weight <= Weighted values[Count] |
| 23:47.33 | AlphA_VsT | say weighted value[1] = 5 and weighted value[2] was 10... |
| 23:48.04 | AlphA_VsT | that thing was be 5<= random wight <= 10 |
| 23:48.08 | AlphA_VsT | right? |
| 23:48.15 | Deaod | and id hazard the guess that normal players wouldnt visit such a site. |
| 23:48.39 | Deaod | delay much? |
| 23:48.42 | Deaod | meh. |
| 23:48.59 | AlphA_VsT | probably not :P |
| 23:49.46 | AlphA_VsT | can you tell me if that looks right? |
| 23:49.50 | Vailreth | the issue would be advertisement.. |
| 23:50.18 | AlphA_VsT | the issue would be a reason anyone would vist... |
| 23:50.31 | Deaod | ^this |
| 23:50.33 | AlphA_VsT | oh lets talk about maps... |
| 23:50.44 | AlphA_VsT | thats what the blizzzard forums are for |
| 23:50.48 | AlphA_VsT | if anything |
| 23:50.58 | Deaod | theyre good for anything? |
| 23:51.05 | Deaod | i didnt realize. |
| 23:51.46 | AlphA_VsT | does my math look good? |
| 23:52.49 | Vailreth | i think so |
| 23:53.39 | AlphA_VsT | It works i just dont know if its working correctly :D |