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| 07:25.49 | JademusSreg | http://i.imgur.com/mVqGf.jpg |
| 07:43.00 | A1win^ | hmm... got an interesting idea for CraftCraft: randomly placed enemy bases all around the map, and when you destroy one, the enemy attack waves become quite a bit stronger for a short while, but the overall rate drops backwards (and then keeps increasing slowly over time as usual) |
| 07:43.48 | JademusSreg | Neato. |
| 07:45.25 | A1win | if I do that, and implement something to upgrade base defenses and maybe a teleport system, I might have playable content for quite a long period of time |
| 07:47.50 | A1win | and to begin converting the map from progression to a sandbox, I shall move the player start from the bottom left corner of the map to the center :x |
| 07:49.01 | A1win | will make the random generation algorithms easier to do as well |
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| 07:58.33 | A1win | woot I actually got the editor opened, didn't remember it was this easy |
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| 07:59.01 | tordy | hello |
| 07:59.11 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 08:00.11 | tordy | woah still awake? |
| 08:01.14 | JademusSreg | Always. |
| 08:04.32 | Talila_ | No one |
| 08:04.42 | A1win | wondering what would be the best way to place vespene geysers and the enemy bases into the map so that they would seem random but wouldn't be too random... maybe just place a lot of them and randomly remove some, and shift them around a bit |
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| 08:07.01 | tordy | is it possible to detect enemy power fields? |
| 08:07.25 | A1win | damn, forgot that I need to redo my minimap extender function if I move the spawn... |
| 08:10.47 | A1win | or what do you think, should I keep the minimap as small as possible at first, and expand it to one direction by a bit as soon as a player moves there, or show the entire minimap from the beginning... it would be mostly black, but would show the players how big the map actually is |
| 08:11.28 | A1win | not many maps adjust the minimap size during the game so it might be a bit confusing |
| 08:14.02 | JademusSreg | Either way. |
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| 08:52.39 | bhgcdfgh | okay guys not trolling, But Does anyone know the name of the Critter bird thats flying? im trying to change the model |
| 08:53.08 | JademusSreg | From SC1 or SC2? |
| 08:53.13 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 08:53.14 | bhgcdfgh | sc2 |
| 08:53.26 | JademusSreg | Karak iirc |
| 08:53.33 | JademusSreg | Some silly name. |
| 08:54.25 | bhgcdfgh | kk thx |
| 08:55.56 | bhgcdfgh | ooooo kay, that was a chicken |
| 08:55.58 | bhgcdfgh | lol |
| 08:56.34 | JademusSreg | Are you talking about the flying dooad critter that's not actually a critter? |
| 08:56.37 | bhgcdfgh | i found it its carrion |
| 08:58.16 | bhgcdfgh | Close enough |
| 08:58.18 | bhgcdfgh | :D |
| 08:58.28 | bhgcdfgh | I can make it fly by switchin mover |
| 08:58.30 | bhgcdfgh | THanks |
| 08:58.41 | bhgcdfgh | Sorry for teh crap name didnt feel like tying taintedwisp |
| 08:58.57 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 08:59.41 | JademusSreg | The forumer with the psychedelic avatar. |
| 09:00.13 | bhgcdfgh | Of course |
| 09:00.29 | bhgcdfgh | Though I saw something on family guy I think imma make an animated gif with. lol |
| 09:00.50 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 09:01.14 | bhgcdfgh | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxCgt8yDArk But looping |
| 09:01.54 | JademusSreg | I remember that episode. Thank goodness for EZTV. |
| 09:02.09 | bhgcdfgh | lol |
| 09:02.15 | bhgcdfgh | I use 1channel.ch |
| 09:02.32 | bhgcdfgh | Well Im off to sleep, learnt how to localize my mpa, and changed the model :D |
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| 09:27.54 | RipperRoo | carrier has arrived |
| 09:51.27 | A1win | <.< why didn't I realize before that I should make per-structure upgrades instead of upgrades that affect all structures... will put those extra resources into good use |
| 09:51.57 | A1win | though I'd need some visual indication to show which structures are upgraded... |
| 09:52.49 | A1win | maybe just attach some actors to them or something |
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| 11:49.03 | Helral | meow |
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| 14:24.29 | MTR_ | can1 answer me some bank questions |
| 14:24.40 | MTR_ | hi) |
| 14:27.57 | Ahli | maybe you can just write your questions and people might answer you, if you give them enough time to answer |
| 14:32.27 | MTR_ | lol |
| 14:32.32 | MTR_ | yeah |
| 14:34.12 | MTR_ | if I do Pick each integer from e.g 1 to 8 and then Open (Bank) for player(picked integer) then set Variable = last opened |
| 14:34.41 | MTR_ | does the variable set for all players? |
| 14:34.58 | MTR_ | if it is not with array just a no array |
| 14:36.46 | Helral | won't work. |
| 14:37.11 | Helral | unless I'm mistaking in the open bank function. |
| 14:37.15 | Helral | moment.. |
| 14:38.29 | Helral | if you do a set variable with is not an array, it will only contain the bank of the last player. |
| 14:38.41 | Helral | with --> which* |
| 14:40.03 | Helral | but what you can do is: pick each player (player group active players) if (picked player == user)Then Open bank(bankStr, picked player); set Var bankvar[picked player] = last opened bank |
| 14:40.17 | Helral | that way you intialize an array which has the bank per player. |
| 14:40.36 | Helral | btw for preload bank, you must specify the players seperately (looping won't work there) |
| 14:43.51 | MTR_ | yes for preload I did separately but does that save all players' info in 1 bank file not say 10 files ? |
| 14:44.43 | Helral | what do you mean? (I'm not up to date with bank functionality, but I know the idea of the banks) |
| 14:45.03 | MTR_ | I geuss it does since I save all Keys and diff sections in one bank file, pronanly the same info is loaded for all players |
| 14:46.04 | MTR_ | ok thanks, will try that with picked player now another question, why Leaderboard Set Text to Player Name won't work at all, say in Test Map |
| 14:46.12 | Helral | <-- confused Open Bank != Save Bank |
| 14:46.32 | MTR_ | if the player is not set to be Computer, if it is User only Player1 name workls fo all otehr players it doesn't work |
| 14:47.04 | Helral | MTR_: hmmm lemme create a testmap to test that. |
| 14:47.08 | MTR_ | No dont |
| 14:47.11 | MTR_ | better |
| 14:47.14 | MTR_ | u can try mine LD |
| 14:47.17 | MTR_ | :) |
| 14:47.38 | MTR_ | let me link it |
| 14:49.27 | Helral | the Name of Player works for all players for me.... |
| 14:49.51 | Helral | output with 1 computer player (player 2): Neutral, Local Player, Player 2, Hostile |
| 14:50.12 | Helral | so the problem is not the Name of Player bit. |
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| 15:46.57 | Cardinal_ | goooooood morning |
| 15:47.38 | Helral | goooooood afternoon ;p |
| 15:53.34 | Ahli | did you just got up, cardinal? |
| 15:54.22 | Ahli | the sky looks a bit purple/pink here... this is strange. |
| 16:05.19 | Helral | weird colors for morning isn't it Ahli? |
| 16:06.06 | Ahli | actually it isn't morning anymore ;D |
| 16:06.42 | Helral | is it still afternoon? |
| 16:07.19 | Cardinal_ | its 16:07 :) |
| 16:07.30 | Cardinal_ | And no, I woke up two hours ago, thank you very much... my head hurts... |
| 16:09.14 | Cardinal_ | went to a jazz bar last night... drank silly amounts of rum... |
| 16:09.15 | Cardinal_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01Ig_ZdoCKY |
| 16:09.22 | Cardinal_ | awesome band though :) |
| 16:10.50 | Helral | Cardinal_: Time flies when having rum. |
| 16:11.06 | Helral | it is a fact, my shirt says so ;p |
| 16:11.18 | Cardinal_ | :) |
| 16:12.56 | Ahli | it's 17:12 |
| 16:13.18 | Ahli | it's already dark now. I don't want to go and buy a new monitor now... |
| 16:13.35 | Helral | hehehe |
| 16:14.46 | Helral | now to continue working on my MPQ editor part of my tool.... |
| 16:15.10 | Helral | got tired of finding not fully working java mpq classes.... |
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| 16:20.55 | Rileyb80 | hey |
| 16:24.34 | Cardinal_ | I need another monitor... |
| 16:24.37 | Cardinal_ | my second one broke :( |
| 16:28.59 | Cardinal_ | What field controls whether a building needs it's worker to 'build'? |
| 16:29.10 | Cardinal_ | Probes just start construction, but SCVs have to 'build' |
| 16:29.25 | Cardinal_ | Can't find any field, or behaviour, which will let me change that |
| 16:29.48 | Helral | think it is one of the lags at the build ability |
| 16:29.50 | Cardinal_ | Otherwise I have to base my 'build' ability off of the Probe - Build, and lose all custom changes |
| 16:29.51 | Helral | flags* |
| 16:30.36 | Cardinal_ | ahh "Worker Maintained"... |
| 16:30.40 | Cardinal_ | I guess... testing now |
| 16:31.18 | Rileyb80 | I've got a few questions about resources if anyone has the free time |
| 16:31.19 | Helral | think it is that one, yeah ;p |
| 16:31.29 | Helral | just ask and we reply if we have time ;p |
| 16:31.33 | Rileyb80 | lol ok |
| 16:31.47 | Rileyb80 | right yo know the messages you get when you mine mineral/vesapne |
| 16:31.52 | Rileyb80 | that doesn't appear |
| 16:32.11 | Rileyb80 | I just tested it with a normal min field scv and command center and nothing showed |
| 16:32.29 | Helral | what messages? |
| 16:32.34 | Rileyb80 | the +5 |
| 16:32.44 | Rileyb80 | when they return to the base |
| 16:33.07 | Helral | I don't remember those at sc2 ..... |
| 16:33.29 | Rileyb80 | hang on lemme test single player I might be imagining it |
| 16:33.40 | Helral | at wc3 I do remember them... |
| 16:33.45 | Rileyb80 | same |
| 16:34.00 | Helral | but never seen them at sc2. |
| 16:34.28 | Ahli | they aren't existing, lol |
| 16:34.35 | Rileyb80 | ah ok |
| 16:34.47 | Rileyb80 | that may explain why it's not working |
| 16:35.09 | Ahli | else you wouldn't see the main building with a saturated base |
| 16:35.32 | Ahli | they do exist for building cancelations, however |
| 16:35.47 | Rileyb80 | yup |
| 16:35.50 | Ahli | and the bunker salvage |
| 16:35.57 | Rileyb80 | ok |
| 16:36.03 | Rileyb80 | well that answers that question |
| 16:36.10 | Rileyb80 | I've been going mad trying to figure it out |
| 16:36.22 | Rileyb80 | ok how would I get them to be added in like wc3? |
| 16:37.01 | Cardinal_ | text kicker actors I beleive |
| 16:37.12 | Cardinal_ | Search the forums - or you can simply trigger it using a text tag |
| 16:37.33 | Cardinal_ | Campaign dependency > automated refinery has two good examples you can alter to your need. Actor+ Events |
| 16:38.06 | Rileyb80 | searching custom resource and text doesn't help too much sadly :( |
| 16:39.12 | Rileyb80 | but I will check automated but I have my doubts that will help as that is preiodic |
| 16:39.34 | Cardinal_ | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=data+text+kicker+site%3A+sc2mapster.com |
| 16:41.28 | Rileyb80 | now data and kicker helps a bit more |
| 16:42.07 | Cardinal_ | Hmm, Helral - now having Worker Maintained unticked, whenever I build something it is immediately 'completed' (actor wise). It doesn't display the usual underconstruction anims |
| 16:42.20 | Helral | hmmmmm |
| 16:42.38 | Rileyb80 | card ahve you set a build time on the ability |
| 16:42.53 | Helral | I never played around with it, but check the protoss buildings for their actors on how they get constructed.... |
| 16:43.10 | Cardinal_ | I'm using the Bunker Actor, it should take 6 seconds to build (which it does), but as soon as I place it, it is a 'completed' bunker actor |
| 16:43.53 | Rileyb80 | lemme check a second |
| 16:44.27 | Rileyb80 | ok |
| 16:45.07 | Cardinal_ | Think I've found it. Some actor events still point to the unit.bunker event, not my unit.custom event |
| 16:45.17 | Rileyb80 | abilies > build (whatever you called it) > ability Info+ double click the command for the build scroll to the bottom and then Info - Time |
| 16:47.04 | Cardinal_ | That is already set at 6 |
| 16:47.19 | Cardinal_ | The building takes 6 seconds to complete. But the actor, when it is placed, does not display the usual 'construction' routine. |
| 16:48.00 | Rileyb80 | hmm ok |
| 16:50.56 | Cardinal_ | fixed - there is a separate actor which controls how something builds... namely: BunkerBuild or SupplyDepotBuild etc |
| 16:52.39 | Helral | :) |
| 17:02.03 | Rileyb80 | I still wish they released a manual with the program >.< |
| 17:02.24 | Helral | they did, a playing manual ;p |
| 17:02.48 | Rileyb80 | I didn't get one with my game :/ |
| 17:04.02 | Rileyb80 | only a quickstart guide that gives a back story |
| 17:06.06 | Ahli | the installation told the story, too. that was awesome |
| 17:06.30 | Rileyb80 | That I really liked |
| 17:06.35 | Helral | quickstart guide.... it's a guide anyway ;p |
| 17:06.43 | Rileyb80 | it's like RA2 but without the tech stuff at the end |
| 17:08.03 | Rileyb80 | anyways I'm trying to make a minable tree (wc3 style) and the auto harvester isn't exactly perfect / doesn't give me any idea how it would work |
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| 17:48.33 | Ahli | 34 of 37 shrine effects done :) |
| 17:51.38 | Helral | :) |
| 17:51.47 | Helral | I like those shrines ;p |
| 17:52.21 | JademusSreg | I don't understand that emote and its ilk. |
| 17:52.55 | JademusSreg | Wink and a tongue? What does that mean? |
| 17:53.10 | Helral | crazy face ;p I just like it. |
| 17:53.11 | JademusSreg | I've never seen anyone make that expression. |
| 17:53.33 | RipperRoo | because u are trollin to much in irc :P |
| 17:53.43 | Helral | hehehe |
| 17:53.46 | Helral | meows |
| 17:53.52 | JademusSreg | Naw, I'm trawling. For deep sea crabs. |
| 17:54.02 | RipperRoo | oh that damn sc2kitteh :D |
| 17:54.13 | RipperRoo | crab people ? :o |
| 17:54.15 | SC2MapsterKitten | meows |
| 17:54.20 | SC2MapsterKitten | ;p |
| 17:54.23 | RipperRoo | lol^^ |
| 17:54.34 | RipperRoo | someone let the dogs out! |
| 17:54.37 | SC2MapsterKitten | ~seen SC2NappingKitten |
| 17:54.45 | purl | sc2nappingkitten <~Helral.EU@217-19-26-88.dsl.cambrium.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 159d 2h 4m 53s ago, saying: 'meow meoww meeeoowwww!!!!'. |
| 17:55.19 | JademusSreg | If I saw someone with one eye closed and tongue sticking out, I would think that person were suffering a severe allergic reaction. |
| 17:55.34 | SC2MapsterKitten | sleepy eye, with tongue sticking out ;p |
| 17:56.31 | JademusSreg | It's an expression with no basis in reality. I know what it means when someone winks, and when someone sticks out a tongue, but not both at the same time. |
| 17:56.45 | SC2MapsterKitten | most of the time it means it is me ;p |
| 17:57.01 | SC2MapsterKitten | or someone else who likes the look of that face ;p |
| 17:57.53 | JademusSreg | Wink means something playful or suggestive. A tongue means teasing or impending rimjob. |
| 17:58.05 | SC2MapsterKitten | ;p = crazy person ;) |
| 17:58.24 | JademusSreg | It makes no sense. Haha |
| 17:59.11 | SC2MapsterKitten | trying to figure out how the mpq's filePathHashes are generated ... |
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| 18:01.33 | RipperRoo | @ JademusSreg http://www.ibeatyou.com/competition/de5bae/wink-stick-your-tongue-out |
| 18:03.59 | JademusSreg | Didn't say it wasn't possible, but rather the facial expression is meaningless. There's no corresponding psychological or emotional state that provides content to the body language. It's contrived. |
| 18:04.28 | SC2MapsterKitten | insane in the membrane, insane in the brain ;p |
| 18:06.20 | HeyRevolver | Jade I still havent had luck with getting waypoints only settable in areas with vision ;p |
| 18:06.31 | HeyRevolver | thats an appropriate use |
| 18:07.37 | JademusSreg | Ascribing a meaning to a contrived expression is like making up your own words. =D |
| 18:07.40 | Rileyb80 | Woot it works ther ei snow minerals |
| 18:08.07 | JademusSreg | Revo, I'll take a shot at it. |
| 18:08.07 | Rileyb80 | there is now* |
| 18:09.49 | SC2MapsterKitten | hmmmm my generated hashes do not match the hashes in the mpq's :( |
| 18:12.01 | RipperRoo | not meaninglesss http://mjv-art.org/pictures/get_image/53486-1024x768-original-solo-swimsuit-wink-tongue-school+swimsuit.jpg !! :D |
| 18:12.33 | JademusSreg | Oh, I've been wondering lately why all the games on Facebook are terrible. Are there some technical or arbitrary contraints like require facebook games to be the shittiest ever made? |
| 18:13.57 | HeyRevolver | well they are designed for people who play games on facebook |
| 18:13.59 | HeyRevolver | so... yeah |
| 18:14.21 | HeyRevolver | i wish my razer imperator worked when i wanted it to as opposed to it working when it feels like it =( |
| 18:14.30 | RipperRoo | 0o |
| 18:14.55 | JademusSreg | No, no, they set the bar low, sure, but when I see an ecosystem with no apex predators, I think "I wonder what would happen if I brought over some wolves." |
| 18:15.14 | Rileyb80 | it's like most of the "app games" they are mostly designed for money not for people to enjoy |
| 18:15.56 | HeyRevolver | i was just being pessimistic, I know a lot of people who play facebook games.. they seem to like em to a certain extent, but if they arent at work they sure as hell arentplaying them |
| 18:16.04 | JademusSreg | By which I mean if facebook games are all shitty and do well, an opportunity could make better games. |
| 18:16.30 | JademusSreg | *an opportunist |
| 18:16.56 | JademusSreg | Unless, that is, there are technical or arbitrary contraints on facebook games such that they must be shitty. |
| 18:16.59 | Rileyb80 | Problem is also any serious game maker would probalyl get muscled out if they made an actual game that was fun for free (copy right and all the legal shit) |
| 18:17.04 | HeyRevolver | it seems to me they are specifically designed to be time sinks and nothing more |
| 18:19.03 | JademusSreg | Yes, but the question is not about the shitty designs of HarvestMoonVille, but rather if there are limitations on the facebook game api such that the games must be invariably shitty? |
| 18:20.04 | HeyRevolver | i have a friend who has made some, I will ask him next time i see him |
| 18:20.10 | HeyRevolver | that is an interesting thought |
| 18:20.40 | JademusSreg | If they don't have to be shitty, then it's an ecosystem open to upheaval. |
| 18:20.58 | HeyRevolver | i like where youre going with that one lol |
| 18:21.16 | HeyRevolver | in a future where the reason i go on facebook is to game it up... |
| 18:21.31 | JademusSreg | Exactly. |
| 18:22.05 | HeyRevolver | the game community potential seems pretty staggering |
| 18:22.18 | JademusSreg | Yeah, that's why I'm curious. |
| 18:22.58 | Rileyb80 | You also need to remember modern gamers are brain washed into what they need to like not what they want to like. |
| 18:23.05 | JademusSreg | Many of us reflexively say "Fucking facebook games, they suck. I'm not going to develop Super Awesome Idea Land for facebook." And perhaps that's why all the facebook games are shitty. |
| 18:23.35 | Rileyb80 | Or people go why bother if it wont get noticed |
| 18:23.55 | HeyRevolver | but Jade makes the point that it has the potential to be noticed by far more people |
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| 18:24.17 | Rileyb80 | It doesn't matter if it has if you cant promote it effectively |
| 18:24.23 | Rileyb80 | take bnet2.0 for example |
| 18:24.52 | Rileyb80 | it's very rare to see new game appear on the frotn page because people are unlikely to search more than 1 page |
| 18:24.58 | SC2MapsterKitten | doh.... forgot to change 1 parameter at a call.... no wonder my hashes seemed off... |
| 18:25.12 | JademusSreg | Riley, I don't think that way because I'm a selfish, megalomaniacal narcissist. Can't shoot down ideas because they "might not get noticed"; that's an unknown. |
| 18:25.48 | JademusSreg | You should just make awesome, quality shit because it's awesome. |
| 18:25.53 | Rileyb80 | I'm the same which is why I'm still struggling on using this dam editor that makes me want to hit things :P |
| 18:26.12 | HeyRevolver | thats the problem, people dont make those games to be awesome, they make an app to get dat cash |
| 18:26.45 | HeyRevolver | we choose to make maps because it is fun for us, so we would generally have a different approach to game making in general |
| 18:26.57 | HeyRevolver | generally in general |
| 18:26.57 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 18:27.14 | JademusSreg | Yeah, but to return to the ecosystem analog, those exploitative games are pretty low on the trophic level. If not-at-all fun games get that much attention, games that are genuinely fun have the potential to do outrageously well. |
| 18:27.37 | HeyRevolver | i completely agree, and therein lies your question |
| 18:27.39 | HeyRevolver | is it possible? |
| 18:27.49 | HeyRevolver | I WILL KNOW ONE DAY |
| 18:27.52 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 18:29.22 | Rileyb80 | Well also remember most things will die if thigns like SOPA appear :( |
| 18:29.38 | JademusSreg | That's another conversation entirely. |
| 18:29.42 | Rileyb80 | yup |
| 18:29.44 | HeyRevolver | >.< |
| 18:30.35 | Rileyb80 | So back to sc2 editor :P |
| 18:30.44 | HeyRevolver | on a lighter note, anyone been followint Reckoning? |
| 18:30.45 | Rileyb80 | anyone got a list of the text codes? |
| 18:30.55 | Rileyb80 | reckoning? |
| 18:31.09 | HeyRevolver | this new rpg |
| 18:31.12 | HeyRevolver | one sec |
| 18:31.40 | HeyRevolver | Kingdoms of Amalur |
| 18:31.52 | HeyRevolver | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a350q12qRc&feature=fvst |
| 18:32.10 | HeyRevolver | thats an old ass video, woah, but gives you an idea |
| 18:32.36 | HeyRevolver | it looks like fable meets skyrim |
| 18:33.12 | Rileyb80 | I'l be honest anything with EA on it I dont give any faith it living up to expectations |
| 18:33.24 | HeyRevolver | fair enough |
| 18:33.41 | JademusSreg | I don't have any interest in EA products. |
| 18:33.55 | Rileyb80 | I will porbally rent it however |
| 18:34.07 | HeyRevolver | EA supports SOPA, right? |
| 18:34.12 | Rileyb80 | porbally |
| 18:34.33 | Rileyb80 | but I dislike them for ruining C&C and 007 games :( |
| 18:34.48 | HeyRevolver | the Wii goldeneye is pretty fun |
| 18:34.57 | JademusSreg | None of their games look interesting, and all of their multiplayer games get their servers shut down pretty soon after release, sooner if the games don't meet their sales expectations. |
| 18:35.25 | Rileyb80 | the new goldeneye made me rage quite a bit |
| 18:35.34 | Rileyb80 | I sent it back after a day |
| 18:36.40 | Rileyb80 | It all made sense when I found out it uses Modern Warfare's game engine though |
| 18:36.49 | HeyRevolver | Jade I agree with your sentiment 90% of the time, I brought up Kingdoms of AMalur because it has really really awesome source material and everything ive seen about it looks genuinely good |
| 18:37.02 | HeyRevolver | and Riley you just killed all interest I may have had for goldeneye |
| 18:37.04 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 18:37.10 | Rileyb80 | sorry :( |
| 18:37.15 | HeyRevolver | thats ok, I dont own a wii |
| 18:37.22 | HeyRevolver | just played it at firned's a few times |
| 18:37.23 | Rileyb80 | I rented it thank god |
| 18:37.27 | HeyRevolver | friends* |
| 18:37.38 | Rileyb80 | but that's turning out in my favour |
| 18:37.59 | Rileyb80 | since I've got it I've onyl purchased 1 game from having it and that was skyrim |
| 18:38.18 | HeyRevolver | did you enjoy skyrim? |
| 18:38.26 | Rileyb80 | I love it |
| 18:38.32 | HeyRevolver | same here |
| 18:38.43 | Rileyb80 | and I dont exatly like morrowind or obvilion |
| 18:38.59 | JademusSreg | I've become too powerful in Skyrim for anything to be remotely challenging. |
| 18:39.02 | Rileyb80 | lol |
| 18:39.08 | Rileyb80 | turn the game to master mode |
| 18:39.17 | Rileyb80 | and welcome it to kick you ass again |
| 18:39.22 | HeyRevolver | yeah I made the mistake of maxing alchemy, enchanting and smithing before i even started the main questline |
| 18:39.23 | JademusSreg | Naw, more health on enemies just means more grind. |
| 18:39.34 | JademusSreg | I want -smarter- enemies. |
| 18:39.36 | Rileyb80 | they also go more damage |
| 18:39.39 | HeyRevolver | well, i say main questline.. but i mean the dragonborn one |
| 18:39.56 | Rileyb80 | I think someone is working on an AI patch |
| 18:40.05 | HeyRevolver | the creation kit is due out pretty soon |
| 18:40.22 | Rileyb80 | ooo |
| 18:40.28 | SC2MapsterKitten | hmmm I currently 1-shot the easy enemies, and well 8-shot the giants.... without them spotting me ..... |
| 18:40.37 | Rileyb80 | lol |
| 18:40.45 | SC2MapsterKitten | I went sniperkitten build ;p |
| 18:40.47 | SC2MapsterKitten | meows |
| 18:40.48 | HeyRevolver | based on what they have been able to do without a creation kit, i am thralled to see what is going to come out after it is released |
| 18:41.06 | JademusSreg | I've managed to one-hit dragons (you know how hard it is to sneak up on one?), can take them down in a few seconds will duel wield maces, and I have a full set of light armor (oops) that gives me a stupid number of bonuses. |
| 18:41.06 | Rileyb80 | same |
| 18:41.12 | SC2MapsterKitten | stealth: 100, Archery: 100 |
| 18:41.17 | JademusSreg | A set of armor for each school of magic. |
| 18:41.33 | JademusSreg | So I never spend mana, if I accessorize for the occassion. |
| 18:41.48 | SC2MapsterKitten | I stopped leveling from combat ;p |
| 18:41.55 | Rileyb80 | The only things I wish at the moment is that a) you could play with a few friends locally and b) could edit how your clothes look |
| 18:42.00 | JademusSreg | You don't get experience from combat... |
| 18:42.07 | SC2MapsterKitten | same thing ;p |
| 18:42.10 | Rileyb80 | because the dragon armour is a bit dull |
| 18:42.25 | HeyRevolver | Riley they have a multiplayer mod in the works, not exacty functional, but you can chat and see other players in the world.. even if they are static naked models |
| 18:42.36 | Rileyb80 | that mod it's ok.... |
| 18:42.36 | JademusSreg | I only wish the game was smarter, smarter enemies specifically. |
| 18:42.46 | SC2MapsterKitten | JademusSreg: true |
| 18:42.48 | Rileyb80 | when it works i'll be happyier |
| 18:43.04 | HeyRevolver | yeah even AVERAGE AI would have made the combat much much more enjoyable |
| 18:43.09 | SC2MapsterKitten | mobs standing right in front of me: turn around and walk back saying must be my imagination.... |
| 18:43.19 | Rileyb80 | lol |
| 18:43.30 | HeyRevolver | "oh an arrow hit me in the head.. did i hear something" |
| 18:43.34 | SC2MapsterKitten | I've had that plenty of times with my archery+stealth. |
| 18:43.39 | SC2MapsterKitten | exactly. |
| 18:43.42 | JademusSreg | KoA looks pretty, but it's console'd. |
| 18:43.45 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 18:43.53 | HeyRevolver | yeah it is totally a port |
| 18:43.58 | SC2MapsterKitten | 2 arrows sticking out of his body: "Must be my imagination" |
| 18:44.02 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 18:44.13 | Rileyb80 | Anyone used to play NWN? |
| 18:44.19 | SC2MapsterKitten | yup |
| 18:44.30 | Rileyb80 | thats how I hope skyrim ensd up |
| 18:44.33 | Rileyb80 | mod wise |
| 18:44.45 | Rileyb80 | you could improve anything which was nice |
| 18:44.50 | SC2MapsterKitten | ahhh.... I was just thinking... you want them to make Skyrim dnd-rulebased? |
| 18:44.57 | Rileyb80 | no |
| 18:45.00 | SC2MapsterKitten | *grin* |
| 18:45.02 | Rileyb80 | but that would be intresting |
| 18:45.09 | SC2MapsterKitten | lol |
| 18:45.27 | Rileyb80 | I actually love the D&D system |
| 18:45.30 | HeyRevolver | i want skyrim combat to feel like combat |
| 18:45.35 | HeyRevolver | not me swinging a stick at the air |
| 18:45.48 | SC2MapsterKitten | ahh well time to write some decryption, encryption, compression and decompression routines... |
| 18:46.05 | HeyRevolver | fun |
| 18:46.09 | SC2MapsterKitten | ;p |
| 18:46.18 | Rileyb80 | well what they need is a Wiimote addon xD |
| 18:46.27 | HeyRevolver | they have em |
| 18:46.28 | HeyRevolver | llo. |
| 18:46.33 | Rileyb80 | oh |
| 18:46.34 | Rileyb80 | ok |
| 18:46.35 | Rileyb80 | lol |
| 18:46.57 | Rileyb80 | so back to sc2 ( I know it's a pain) |
| 18:47.28 | Rileyb80 | but I'm trying to change this text message to green and display the correct number of minerals that is returned |
| 18:47.43 | Rileyb80 | <s val="Kicker_Minerals">+10 </s><IMG path="Assets\Custom Icons\wood.tga" height="28" width="28"/> |
| 18:47.47 | HeyRevolver | with triggers? |
| 18:47.47 | HeyRevolver | oh |
| 18:47.56 | HeyRevolver | yeah youre way beyond me lol |
| 18:47.57 | Rileyb80 | I'm trying to make it using data |
| 18:48.16 | Rileyb80 | I have a friend who does my triggering |
| 18:48.21 | HeyRevolver | cool |
| 18:48.57 | Rileyb80 | mostly because he's a over the top genius with coding and secondly because everytime I do anything he just gets annoyed that I bothered >.> |
| 18:49.00 | SC2MapsterKitten | <c data=green> ... </c> or something? |
| 18:49.10 | SC2MapsterKitten | it's some color tag. |
| 18:49.10 | Rileyb80 | can try it |
| 18:49.43 | SC2MapsterKitten | hmmm just logged onto sc2mapster.... 13 PMs O.o I never get so many.... |
| 18:49.52 | Rileyb80 | lol |
| 18:49.56 | Rileyb80 | someone loves you |
| 18:50.10 | Ahli | people seem to have problems with UI ;D |
| 18:50.22 | Rileyb80 | or wants to inform you your WOW account is being banned/stolen/hacked/reward/sold |
| 18:50.30 | SC2MapsterKitten | people poking me for answers :( |
| 18:52.41 | Rileyb80 | ok seems if you edit in the text editor and remove the s vla bit it works |
| 18:53.21 | Rileyb80 | as the c data green appeared but ti was all in the green I choose earlier for the text when I was first meddling |
| 18:55.06 | SC2MapsterKitten | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/editor-bugs-and-feedback/1277-text-editor-bug/ <-- maybe that is your problem? |
| 18:55.12 | Rileyb80 | now I just need to find out what the bit for resource amount is and it's golden (I dont want to have to make one for each upgrade) |
| 18:56.14 | Rileyb80 | Sort of but it's not a bug your text colour is given from the UI bit it seems |
| 18:56.31 | Rileyb80 | Game Data Ui* |
| 18:56.56 | Rileyb80 | but that will be handy for another bit when I want to add multiple colours :D |
| 18:57.45 | HeyRevolver | https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#/!/response/combating-online-piracy-while-protecting-open-and-innovative-internet |
| 18:58.34 | Rileyb80 | haha nicwe |
| 19:00.36 | Rileyb80 | So anyone got a massive list? |
| 19:00.42 | Rileyb80 | of text comands for the editor |
| 19:01.01 | SC2MapsterKitten | text commands? |
| 19:01.20 | SC2MapsterKitten | the tags? |
| 19:01.24 | Rileyb80 | yup |
| 19:01.28 | Rileyb80 | sorry |
| 19:01.47 | Rileyb80 | text tags is the words I as looking for |
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| 19:02.38 | mhnbgfh | Hey is there a way to flip the mini map? |
| 19:02.50 | mhnbgfh | I mean make it so the top players look like they are on bottom, but only to them |
| 19:02.52 | SC2MapsterKitten | Rileyb80: http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/map-development/4165-text-tag-list-anyone/ |
| 19:04.01 | Rileyb80 | You are a star Kitten |
| 19:04.02 | Rileyb80 | :) |
| 19:04.26 | SC2MapsterKitten | all I did was a search action on sc2mapster ;p |
| 19:04.42 | SC2MapsterKitten | mhnbgfh: no idea. |
| 19:05.21 | mhnbgfh | Well thanks anyways |
| 19:05.45 | mhnbgfh | I just wanted to make sure it was possible before asking one of my teammates(prob trigger editor) to try to do it |
| 19:06.05 | Rileyb80 | right now to find how this data ref bit works xD |
| 19:06.29 | SC2MapsterKitten | mhnbgfh: might be a way.... just thought of something... wondering if it exists. |
| 19:08.56 | SC2MapsterKitten | mhnbgfh: nope ain't there... |
| 19:09.17 | mhnbgfh | dang oh well, thanks anyways |
| 19:09.39 | SC2MapsterKitten | mhnbgfh: the problem is if you want to turn the minimap around you need to turn the camera around. so I thought perhaps there is a function to make the map turn based on an units facing. |
| 19:10.03 | mhnbgfh | I have the camera turned around :D |
| 19:10.22 | mhnbgfh | but it looks very weird without the map turned around too |
| 19:10.29 | SC2MapsterKitten | yeah but I thought there might be a method to make the minimap turn around like it ;p |
| 19:10.29 | Rileyb80 | anyone know where the Catalog functions is? |
| 19:10.40 | Rileyb80 | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/data/8820-data-ui-text-that-reads-data-editor-data/ |
| 19:10.41 | mhnbgfh | ah |
| 19:10.41 | SC2MapsterKitten | under Catalog at the triggers. why? |
| 19:10.49 | Rileyb80 | might help me |
| 19:14.29 | Ahli | yay, shrines are spawning |
| 19:14.48 | Rileyb80 | need to find whatever behaviour tells me how many resources a unit has collected |
| 19:15.05 | SC2MapsterKitten | hmmmm |
| 19:15.43 | Rileyb80 | So if a unit returns early it will show that number not just 10 |
| 19:15.49 | SC2MapsterKitten | hmmm |
| 19:16.17 | Rileyb80 | just going to check if ti even does that atm |
| 19:16.37 | Rileyb80 | ah apperently not |
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| 19:22.57 | Rileyb80 | Once I get this working I'm making a tutorial for it |
| 19:23.15 | Rileyb80 | mostly because I swear I'll forget how I did things in a week |
| 19:23.30 | SC2MapsterKitten | hmmmm don't know if there is a method to retrieve the amount of minerals the unit currently is carrying. |
| 19:24.01 | Rileyb80 | I'm sure there is mostly because I'm sure i've seen it done |
| 19:24.07 | Rileyb80 | but that might of just been a trigger based one |
| 19:24.33 | Rileyb80 | but I just remember minerals have a event for counting it |
| 19:25.34 | RipperRoo | awwwwww man thats CUTE!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysKAVyXi0J4&feature=related |
| 19:25.58 | Rileyb80 | Abil.SCVHarvest.Start StatusIncrement Harvest |
| 19:26.29 | Rileyb80 | Abil.SCVHarvest.Stop StatusDecrement Harvest |
| 19:26.37 | Rileyb80 | I think I need to add this part :P |
| 19:30.39 | Rileyb80 | nope just addin that doesn't work :/ |
| 19:37.51 | Rileyb80 | now things just got weird :/ I'm getting 60 minerals when I've set it at 10 *head bash* |
| 19:44.55 | Rileyb80 | ok i'm confused |
| 19:46.42 | Rileyb80 | I have my unit (tree) which is based off a vespane gesyer with stats, Harvest Amount 1 ; Harvest Time 10,0 ; Return Delay 0.5 |
| 19:46.51 | Rileyb80 | which seems to give 6 minerals |
| 19:47.55 | Rileyb80 | so somewhere everything is multipling by 6 |
| 19:48.53 | SC2MapsterKitten | the resource determines the harvest value I think. |
| 19:49.14 | SC2MapsterKitten | like a mineral patch gives 4, and a high mineral patch gives 7. |
| 19:51.00 | Rileyb80 | that seems to be based on the harvesta mount |
| 19:51.07 | Rileyb80 | based on the 2 behaviours |
| 19:54.20 | SC2MapsterKitten | guess it gives away I never played with it ;p |
| 19:59.19 | Rileyb80 | stilll head desking but I'm sure it's something stupid |
| 20:01.51 | Rileyb80 | I'm half tempted to remake this all from scratch :/ |
| 20:02.22 | JademusSreg | Only if it's necessary. |
| 20:03.14 | JademusSreg | Otherwise you may find yourself on the lonesome road of redrafts that made a game like Duke Nukem Forever. |
| 20:04.48 | Rileyb80 | lol |
| 20:05.15 | Rileyb80 | it may just happen |
| 20:05.29 | Rileyb80 | I just wish that they or someone made a build it program |
| 20:06.25 | Rileyb80 | so i could just go I want a resource that give this and this many xD |
| 20:06.33 | Rileyb80 | or I want this unit that uses this model |
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| 20:10.39 | Rileyb80 | xD |
| 20:10.45 | Rileyb80 | the dam ability has a multiplier |
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| 20:13.51 | Mexa | heyhey |
| 20:13.58 | Rileyb80 | hello |
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| 20:15.33 | Rileyb80 | Ok so harvesting down to 2 problems (minor ones but still there) 1) find the text code for resource held data 2) allow the unit to return without having a full load |
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| 20:44.58 | tehbone | is it normal, that units from custom mods are written in red in the data editor? |
| 20:47.30 | JademusSreg | Dunno. Sounds likely. |
| 20:50.49 | tehbone | hm will check if it gets green if i upload it to bnet |
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| 20:52.13 | tehbone | looks irritating but the unit from the mod is working |
| 20:54.44 | Ahli | mod dependency is orange. blue is WoL, grey is core, green is your map |
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| 21:06.58 | Bounty | Ok, does anyone know of a store that would sell PC Monitors BESIDES Best Buy? |
| 21:07.29 | JademusSreg | I'd order one off newegg. |
| 21:07.41 | Bounty | What about their return policy? |
| 21:07.48 | Bounty | Like, if i have a stuck/dead pixel |
| 21:08.05 | JademusSreg | I dunno. I've never needed to return anything ever. |
| 21:08.08 | Bounty | Last i heard you have to have like 8 dead pixels close to eachother to return one |
| 21:08.16 | Bounty | Well its diff with a monitor lol |
| 21:09.00 | Rileyb80 | Your better off with online buys |
| 21:09.19 | Bounty | If i cant return the monitor if it had one deal pixel, i'm not better off |
| 21:09.20 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:09.22 | Rileyb80 | they are less likely to give you stick for problems like that |
| 21:09.24 | JademusSreg | Unless someone fucks up your package during shipment. |
| 21:09.34 | Bounty | yeah what about that |
| 21:09.35 | JademusSreg | (Or delivery.) |
| 21:09.40 | Bounty | what if that fedex guy delivers my package |
| 21:09.46 | JademusSreg | I've never had that problem. |
| 21:09.46 | Rileyb80 | I had an issue with one of my cards and sent it back no questions asked an a new one came within the week |
| 21:09.56 | Bounty | im not talking about cards |
| 21:09.57 | JademusSreg | Our UPS guy here is great. |
| 21:09.59 | Bounty | MONITORS lol |
| 21:10.03 | Rileyb80 | the deliveries are recorded |
| 21:10.05 | Bounty | to be more specific |
| 21:10.21 | JademusSreg | I have an idea. |
| 21:10.22 | Bounty | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001474 |
| 21:10.28 | Rileyb80 | well most of them but your likely safer |
| 21:10.31 | Bounty | im not dropping that kind of money and getting fucked |
| 21:10.55 | JademusSreg | Order something fragile. Dry run. |
| 21:11.04 | JademusSreg | Something fragile and cheap. |
| 21:11.06 | Bounty | lol? |
| 21:11.09 | Rileyb80 | with bestbuy I've heard someone had a problem getting a refund for the fake ipad a guy was sold till he involved the press he got stone walled about it |
| 21:11.36 | Rileyb80 | so honestly removing the human element seems to get better results |
| 21:11.47 | Bounty | Problem is |
| 21:11.55 | Bounty | i cant find a single store that carries this monitor in store |
| 21:12.04 | Bounty | yet i always read about ppl picking one up at a local store |
| 21:12.05 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:12.22 | Bounty | every place ive been to only carriest the shittiest monitors know nto man |
| 21:12.31 | Bounty | 18" 23ms response time |
| 21:12.33 | Bounty | shit like that |
| 21:12.45 | JademusSreg | Haha |
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| 21:14.24 | Bounty_ | Grr, got booted.. anyone say nething? |
| 21:14.34 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 21:15.22 | Bounty_ | I would suck dick to have Best Buy carry that monitor in store |
| 21:15.28 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 21:15.30 | Bounty_ | Is it possible that maybe they have it at the store? |
| 21:15.31 | JademusSreg | Also, gross. |
| 21:16.00 | Bounty_ | I know ive seen some shit in store that was labeled online only |
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| 22:16.21 | Cardinal_ | search area effects.... why u no work |
| 22:17.06 | Cardinal_ | building has 3 stacks of a behaviour to search for unit A |
| 22:17.13 | Cardinal_ | each time the search finds one, it runs a set |
| 22:17.20 | Cardinal_ | unit a is removed, the building is chronoboosted for 1 second |
| 22:17.31 | Cardinal_ | (through various remove and apply behaviours) |
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| 22:32.55 | HeyRevolver | sweet i got a tribed ascend closed beta key lol |
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| 22:43.33 | Cardinal_ | no way tribes ascend? As in... Tribes 2? online only multiplayer fps? |
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